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0 Subject: CourtRivals.com Gurupie Team II

Posted by: Frick
- [23117516] Mon, Jul 14, 2008, 16:38

The Value of Sliders

After reading Kaz's post my interpretation is that like stats, the position of the sliders for each player on the floor is added up.

Would it be possible to experiment with the sliders before the play-offs. I'm wondering if 4 players set them to shoot-more and the pg set it to pass more what happens?

We need to coordinate our sliders, but I have no idea how. Coach, tell us what to do and we'll do it. Even if it is to test out some options.
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755deejay
      ID: 38869
      Sat, Sep 06, 2008, 15:58
and "someone like that" , thanks for that. Very nice of you.
756PuNk42AE
      Donor
      ID: 036635522
      Sat, Sep 06, 2008, 16:47
Why should he have to allow someone that's bad mouthing him keep posting when they are pissed and saying that stuff? You were the "someone" that was saying it.

It was a freakin 2-3 day ban, big whoop. It's called a feature to stop someone that is posting flames for a while, to hopefully get them past that point of where they are just going to post that. Everyone has a right to say what they want, but they also have to deal with the consequences. If you think it was so wrong of him to ban you, what did you expect the response to you to be?
757Weykool
      Leader
      ID: 41750315
      Sat, Sep 06, 2008, 16:57
Punk:

DJ being from Europe misread the date because they read them differently.
It was a 1 day ban which is much more reasonable...like a warning.

DJ thought it was for a week which would have been rediculous.
758PuNk42AE
      Donor
      ID: 036635522
      Sat, Sep 06, 2008, 17:08
Well that's why i'm saying and asked why the ban was so bad and that was the final straw in the first place.
759deejay
      ID: 38869
      Sat, Sep 06, 2008, 17:35
Its all good.

But either way I am leaving the team after tonight.
Since I cant promise I will keep playing. I really dont know yet.
And I dont want to quit on you guys in the middle of the season.(or after a day or 10 as in when premium expires)

So you have the time to find someone else.
Good luck in figuring this game out.

760wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Sat, Sep 06, 2008, 17:37
i take it our team is disbanding? is that the case?
761Donkey Hunter
      ID: 36111321
      Sat, Sep 06, 2008, 18:58
We have half a team it seems.

In
Skinny
KJ
Butters
Thunder?

Out
FRF
Buck
DJ
Camby

Maybe:
Show
MR MVP

If there is interest in sticking together I can bring back my two extra guys, but if we are unforming anyway I will probably let them expire. Anybody who is staying have any ideas or plans of what to do for this season? You guys want me to recruit the message boards?
762wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Sat, Sep 06, 2008, 20:04
i am not happy with how things ended, but i would stick around if we will have a team.
763Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Sat, Sep 06, 2008, 20:50
I'm just not going to buy premium. I can keep him going as best I can......but would happily offer Camby up to someone else if they wished to continue buying premiums.
764Donkey Hunter
      ID: 36111321
      Sat, Sep 06, 2008, 21:49
We look good again tonight with all leadership chems fwiw.
765Donkey Hunter
      ID: 36111321
      Sat, Sep 06, 2008, 22:22
Well I am going to say that we do not have a team for next season. With at least 3 guys definitely out I dont know that it will be worth it. It is too late to recruit good top players from the forums. If we started with brand new players they would start off 300 points behind and I dont know if any other Gurupies would want to put the work in to catch up since we did not get a whole lot of interest the last time we posted.

I will definitely be training Skinny and probably not the other two guys depending on what sort of combo deals Kazz offers up.

Anybody who is still going to play the game I will post somewhere on their message boards that the team is disbanding and the players are looking for teams. So check your in game emails.

If you are definitely no longer interested in playing you can send the player to me and if Kazz introduces good combo packages tonight then I might keep them alive. I would just say to start doing the endurance stacking tonight so the player does not fall behind.
766Frick
      Donor
      ID: 3410101718
      Sun, Sep 07, 2008, 01:07
If you decide you want players you can have Fricken tall. He got sporadic training, but at least he isn't a baseline player.
767PuNk42AE
      Donor
      ID: 036635522
      Wed, Oct 22, 2008, 23:22
How did everyone's teams end up doing this season?
768wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Wed, Oct 22, 2008, 23:27
knocked out in the 2nd round, we were a 3 seed
769weykool
      ID: 45821208
      Wed, Oct 22, 2008, 23:59
DJ and I were a #2 seed and lost to a college team in the 2nd round.
Nothing new to see here....same story different season.
770PuNk42AE
      Donor
      ID: 036635522
      Thu, Oct 23, 2008, 00:11
That was my team that you lost to Weykool.
771PuNk42AE
      Donor
      ID: 036635522
      Thu, Oct 23, 2008, 00:11
We got murdered in the Final Four.
772weykool
      ID: 45821208
      Thu, Oct 23, 2008, 01:17
What were you doing on a college team?

Can you honestly say that there were things you learned from your new team that the Rotoguru team was unaware of?

Obviously DJ and I didnt learn anything new.
Most of our team threads started with:
"Maybe we should try......."
773PuNk42AE
      Donor
      ID: 036635522
      Thu, Oct 23, 2008, 01:30
It was a Pro B team, but then two tards weren't training so it kept falling and ended up in College A.
774youngroman
      Donor
      ID: 02934823
      Thu, Oct 23, 2008, 13:55
we were a #4 seed and lost against a College A team in round #1. just like last year with the Gurupies.

a day later I found out that CR is now blocked at work (Rotoguru and GLB are blocked too), so I can't train my player anymore during the day, so I decided to give away my player with the option to get him back if I want to. as long as the sim is still too random I don't think this will happen.

If I would not have that much work, I really would think of writing an own basketball sim that actually would make sense, with more general attributes like GLB.
775weykool
      ID: 2842717
      Thu, Oct 23, 2008, 14:05
<-----will wait patiently to sign up for youngroman's hoops SIM
776weykool
      ID: 2842717
      Thu, Oct 23, 2008, 14:13
I came accross this in the knowledge base:

How to Put Up Big Stats

Here at Court Rivals, our goal is to provide everyone with a fair and reasonable basketball simulation site. Our intent is not to discourage newcomers to be subjected to lopsided games and meager statistical outputs.

What this means (and a lot of people may not realize!) is that there is not an ABSOLUTE direct correlation between your skills and shooting percentage. If that were the case, then someone with 300 dunking skill would go 20 for 20 every game (which isn't terribly realistic).

Putting up big numbers (statistically) in Court Rivals is a numbers game. The size of the pie (aka the number of points, amount of rebounds, etc. in a game) stays relatively the same from game to game but the amount of pie everyone gets changes. The reason for this is that the alternative would be to sacrifice all realism and have games where the score is 50-700 and the winning team shoots 300-305 from the field. Unless I went the latter route, there's no way I can make everyone score 50 PPG and shoot 90% from the field.

With that in mind, please remember that statistical numbers are relative. If you have 100 shooting, you have to see if that is a lot compared to other people on your team and if 100 is a lot compared to what your opponent has attribute wise.

As a closing note, if you are still concerned with putting up "big numbers" in the sim, please reach out to people that lead in various statistical areas and PM them in-game. They may be able to better direct you in regards to how you should train and how your lineup should be set to maximize your individual performance.

Good luck!


The problem is that too many of us realize that there is not an ABSOLUTE direct correlation in most of the trained attributes.
And therin lies the problem.
777youngroman
      Donor
      ID: 02934823
      Thu, Oct 23, 2008, 15:38
the real problem of the sim is that it calculates the outcome first and then distributes the stats needed for that outcome among the team members.

what I would like to see is the GLB approach: simulate possession after possession or even second after second. you could even show the game like in GLB. it might be possible to show it live, so that you don't need to click on "next possession".
778Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Thu, Oct 23, 2008, 16:06
DH - what did our little college team do in the playoffs?
779Donkey Hunter
      ID: 176121816
      Thu, Oct 23, 2008, 16:12
We were ranked like 130. SO we did nto make the playoffs despite what had to be the most wins in courtrivals. I think we finished 40-2.
780Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Thu, Oct 23, 2008, 16:38
lol......that's why I love courtrivals.
781wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Thu, Oct 23, 2008, 16:43
ha, courtrivals hates gurupies :)
782weykool
      ID: 2842717
      Thu, Oct 23, 2008, 17:00
DH, Weykool, Species, and DJ( new player) have formed a team called Coinflip.
If any EX Rotoguru members want to join we still have openings.

You have to have a name that goes with the team concept.
So far we have:
Rock - Paper - Scissors
Flip a Coin
Probability Randomness
Heads or Tails

Enney-meeney-minney-moe is not taken.
Send me an in game PM if you want to join.
The only strategy we will be doing is how to divide up the stats.
Winning will be left to the randomness of the SIM.


783Frick
      ID: 23117516
      Fri, Oct 24, 2008, 11:07
How hard are you going to be training? I would be interested if you don't mind the fact that I'm not going to dedicate time to maximize my TCs. If you find a better replacement later, I'm not going to be upset.
784weykool
      ID: 2842717
      Fri, Oct 24, 2008, 11:51
Frick:

Actually we will be training very hard.
DH and I will be going for the #1 and #2 trained players.
How many points does your player have?
Our initial goal would be to get into the college division and try to get some quality stats and maybe be "that college team" that takes out the pro A team.
If you have more than 400 points you would help us get into college.

The pw is: random
785Frick
      ID: 23117516
      Fri, Oct 24, 2008, 14:09
I just joined Coinflip, I have 528 points so hopefully that's enough.

Any thoughts on what I should work on for my training?

Has anyone attempted to access the site via a mobile device?
786weykool
      ID: 2842717
      Fri, Oct 24, 2008, 14:41
528 will work very well thank you.
As for training we will need to coordinate our primaries.
We still have two roster spots open.
Because we have non-Rotoguru members on the team we should make use of the team forum on the CR site.
I will get a thread started so we can get an idea of which stats we want to pursue.
787wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Fri, Oct 24, 2008, 15:41
I am now a member of coinflip
788Donkey Hunter
      Leader
      ID: 916288962
      Fri, Oct 24, 2008, 15:58
lol so basically we are reuniting the gurupie team without all the pressure of expectations.

better make sure we get a forward with our next pickup. and we should set some lineups to kinda try and balance things out.
789wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Fri, Oct 24, 2008, 16:00
I am actually going to go back to my old team, i feel bad ditching them after the season started.
790weykool
      ID: 2842717
      Fri, Oct 24, 2008, 16:05
But the season has not started.
791wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Fri, Oct 24, 2008, 16:09
yeah, but i emailed him and he wasnt happy, so i told him i would stay
792Donkey Hunter
      Leader
      ID: 916288962
      Fri, Oct 24, 2008, 16:15
Now we aren't happy. so we have chosen your team to be the one we upset in the first round of the playoffs.
793wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Fri, Oct 24, 2008, 16:17
lol, next season i would love to come back, i just dont want to screw them over
794wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Fri, Oct 24, 2008, 16:40
i dont have to worry about it anyways, its not like you can win :)
795Donkey Hunter
      Leader
      ID: 916288962
      Fri, Oct 24, 2008, 16:47
Not now that you pulled a Favre and took all the strategies off of our team forum and are giving them to your new team.
796weykool
      ID: 2842717
      Fri, Oct 24, 2008, 16:57
What do you mean we cant win?
We probably have a better shot at winning this season than all the other seasons combined.
From the movie Passenger 57...."Always bet on black".
Not sure what it means....but it sounds random.
797wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Fri, Oct 24, 2008, 16:59
lol, great quote. your right
798Donkey Hunter
      ID: 508401922
      Thu, Nov 27, 2008, 08:14
courtrivals down for anyone else? I havent been able to get in since midnight last night
799PuNk42AE
      Donor
      ID: 036635522
      Thu, Nov 27, 2008, 08:51
It was down about Midnight, then it was up around 12:30. But been down since I got up this morning.
800PuNk42AE
      Donor
      ID: 036635522
      Thu, Nov 27, 2008, 09:12
It appears to be up now.
801Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Mon, Dec 08, 2008, 14:59
DH - did you get my guy assigned to your account?
802Donkey Hunter
      ID: 3210231917
      Mon, Dec 08, 2008, 20:54
Yup, sure did. Thanks.
803deejay
      ID: 17744243
      Mon, Aug 24, 2009, 04:54
Can't get in that game.. again.
Pretty fed up with that.
804 Magda
      ID: 1871035
      Wed, Aug 03, 2011, 06:10
I was so confsued about what to buy, but this makes it understandable.
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