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Subject: italy-korea refree.....
Posted by: IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO
- [221441621] Sun, Jun 16, 2002, 18:17
he'll be from ecuador....mmmmh, it makes me think.
The sure thing is that refrees are badly influencing our world cup, and giving their favours to the host teams in a pathetic way. Now, i hope it'll be a fair game, even if korea will win, without that bullsh!t we saw in the last 2 italy's game.......how many goal have we to score before getting one on the board?? |
| 1 | cancermoon
ID: 53248219
Sun, Jun 16, 2002, 22:06
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Italy wont have any problems with the referee if they start playing like the great team they are suppose to be, at the moment they play like a bunch of over payed spoiled little girls.
I hope they beat Korea because I want the world cup to not become a farce with a bunch of average teams full of average players playing in the finals. SO please Brazil, Italy and Germany please give some respect to the Soccer World Cup.
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| 2 | IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO
ID: 221441621
Mon, Jun 17, 2002, 07:20
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hey cancermoon, i agree that we're not playing as we know, but if you would have given me the 2-0 goal against croatia maybe we would have been here talking of how well we should have been playing. In soccer is a matter of moments, and a single episode should mean the win or loose of an entire competition. For example, if we would have beaten croatia, nesta should have rested is injured foot instead of being forced to play mexico and aggravate it. We should have rested cannavaro too, who was already booked, while we had to play him in the mexico game, when he was booked again and have now to serve a turn of suspension against korea. So, for that damned goal, we now have to play korea with an invente defense.......if it seems nothing to you.....
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| 3 | Motley Crue
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ID: 53857
Mon, Jun 17, 2002, 08:03
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Boo-hoo! What is all this complaining? The game is not judged by robots or computers--it is a human game judged by human referees! As it has always been. You must have gotten used to this by now?
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| 4 | IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO
ID: 221441621
Mon, Jun 17, 2002, 10:48
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yes mot. but it seems almost strange that you don't get validated at least 1 goal on 4 scored, and it stinks. Must i be happy to be penalized by a refree's error?? that's the reason i would love to have the istant replay on the field as happens for u.s. sports. It should take about 15 seconds to review an action, and you would give legit to refree's decisions. If a team scores they deserve that score, that's the only thing that counts.
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| 5 | Motley Crue
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ID: 53857
Mon, Jun 17, 2002, 15:44
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I have no argument against instant replay in football and basketball. But it seems a sport like soccer, where the official clock runs continuously, would have a hard time incorporating reviews. It would really interrupt the flow of the game, and players would be able to stand around and suck on water bottles. I don't think FIFA will go for that.
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| 6 | leggestand
ID: 501029817
Mon, Jun 17, 2002, 15:52
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Instant Replay will most likely never occur in soccer. Its impossible to implement. Some fouls are referees opinions, and when you watch replay, it is sometimes still hard to see whether it was a foul or not. Even offsides occurs in the blink of an eye, and a replay may not cathc the "exact" right call. Referees make errors, and it part of the game. Great teams overcome these human errors, and will their team to win. If a team loses 2-1 and is upset that they got a goal called back, they need to realize that the easy way for them to have won was to not let up the 2 goals. A lot, not all, of teams find away to blame something besides themselves for a loss, and this is in all sports. Hardly ever do you hear someone say that they were flatout beaten by a better team.
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| 7 | kev
ID: 11438306
Mon, Jun 17, 2002, 16:13
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Out of the 4 goals scored, only 1 was a clear mistake by the ref's. It doesnt help to see the game clearly when you are cheering for Italy.
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| 8 | JCS
ID: 42516158
Mon, Jun 17, 2002, 16:15
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...except in France! Man, the French players are under so much criticism right now, they're leaving the country and not planning to come back in the next few weeks... We've been flatout beaten by Denmark and nobody dares to contest this.
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| 9 | mIST
ID: 36022116
Tue, Jun 18, 2002, 04:22
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The goals were all regular, it's proven.
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| 10 | Promize
Sustainer
ID: 124153113
Tue, Jun 18, 2002, 10:12
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You know, im sure Lazio is going to be very sad/upset about this. But the one thing I hate about this sport is all the fake dives, especially by teams like Italy, Spain, Brazil etc.
So when a foul happens like this, who is really to blame? The teams who continue to fake dives constantly? Or the ref?
The call was crappy, no doubt about it.. But it wasn't the factor of the game, if I remember correctly the Italy forward missed a wide open shot around the 89th minute that could of ended it all.
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| 11 | leggestand
ID: 501029817
Tue, Jun 18, 2002, 10:37
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and Korea's first goal was due t a mistake by Panucci (I think thats who it was). Just get the ball out at that point of the game.
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| 12 | IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO
ID: 221441621
Tue, Jun 18, 2002, 12:05
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ok, totti was clearly fouled, tommasi scored another regular goal, the refree, and this is the most important thing above all others, booked all our midfielders in the first half, so we couldn't even try to stop the clock in the final minutes with tactical fouls at midfield. Totti was ejected without a refree watch of the action, because that f!ckin' ecuador's fat bastard was still at midfield and couldn't judge the action in the penalty box. He stopped us with other 3 or 4 totally invented outside's call, and didn't even whistle a foul for us in the last 30 minutes, while he whisled everything around our penalty box. Man, he was clearly trying to let them score, ant this has been said by beckenbauer, platini, pelè and a bounch of other experts on tv. The best view of this farse has been the italian fan showing money to the refree when he came out of the field. If i were an old man like di livio, at his last international game, i would have surely kicked refree's ass in front of the entire planet. It's a shame, a total farse. And hey, it's a total idiot's decision the one to put there a 31 years old refree, from a country in which football is played at a totally different speed. He was everytime late following the actions, he was phisically a sh!t, and didn't have the experience to whistle in an hot field like that. He was clearly influenced by the ambiental factor. Than, answer: why all other refrees in this round were proven refs, with a lot of experience, and the only idiot was given to south korea, even after all the bullsh!t happened to italy before, and knowing that this should have been the hottest game??
this soccer is ridiculous.
this world cup is ridiculous.
Given this, we should have scored on the plenty of opportunities we had.
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| 13 | JCS
ID: 42516158
Tue, Jun 18, 2002, 12:23
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ahem... i mean, the slow replay clearly shows that Totti begins to dive even before the korean touches him.
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| 14 | IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO
ID: 221441621
Tue, Jun 18, 2002, 12:28
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yes but he touched him, and would have touched him even if totti would have continued his normal run. The fact is that he touched him, and if you look at totti's left foot you'll see it behind the 2 foots of the korean. Ok, you can let it play, but you can't eject him, even because the refs didn't see the action because he was really far away (it has taken about 15 seconds for him to arrive there, so how can he judge the action in a way that would have influenced the game so much??
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| 15 | leggestand
ID: 501029817
Tue, Jun 18, 2002, 13:18
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I don't think that Totti should of been ejected. I don't think anyone should be "thrown" out of a game unless it is truly deserving, and diving is not a way to get thrown out. To much is at stake. But, after saying this, the italian defender should not have tried to trap that ball in the middle of the penalty box. The Italians win the game in regulation and are getting ready to face Spain if that player did not do that. The referee, no matter how bad he did, did not give the game away - the Italians did. It should of never come down to overtime and a "dive" by Totti.
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| 16 | John Budge
Donor
ID: 29141112
Tue, Jun 18, 2002, 13:38
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The Italians and the Mexicans are both poor sports. The Italians have won 3 Cups. Let someone else have a chance.
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| 17 | Seattle Zen
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ID: 554192913
Tue, Jun 18, 2002, 14:02
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I checked in to hear some Italian belly-aching and I have not been disappointed. How about attacking the South Koreans? Waiting back on your haunches and hoping your 1-0 lead will hold is a recipe for disaster.
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| 18 | Micheal
ID: 567421419
Tue, Jun 18, 2002, 18:33
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Somebody should tell the Lakers to give someone else a chance.
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