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0 Subject: Family Gets Computer Chip Implants

Posted by: nerveclinic
- Donor [28419421] Sat, May 11, 2002, 13:05

I am moving the thread titled Us weighs micro chip implants to a new thread since it has reached 189 posts and since there have been major new developments in the last 2 days.

I was concerned that if I left the thread as is allot of people would have decided they were done with it and not bothered reading the latest developments.

I am interested in everyone reaction to the latest story detailing the first family to have the implant injected into their bodies. I will post the story in the first post of this thread.
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30Baldwin
      ID: 4261155
      Tue, May 14, 2002, 13:20
Actually believing '1984' is a great work and holding the opinion 'it can't happen here' is a marvelous example of 'doublethink'.

You are obfuscating for socialists. While Orwell does indeed take deserved shots at Stalin, '1984' is also aimed directly at his socialist friends. The number 1984 comes both from a Jack London novel, The Iron Heel, where a totalitarian state achieves full power in 1984. Also 1984 was the one hundred years anniversary of the Fabian Society. These British socialist intellectuals took the turtle as their symbol and declared that they would achieve socialism even if it took one hundred years.

In short Orwell was warning us of the logical outworking of the very socialists he sprang from and who deeply influenced the British Labor Party as well as the USA's Democrat party.

Also on the shield of the Fabian Society you will find a wolf in sheep's clothing. Do not underestimate the will to power of the Dascheles and Schummers and Hillarys of this world. It is not for nothing that their favorite philosopher Nietzsche made a neo-religious virtue out of the will to power.

They don't have the commitment for it, for one thing. They don't want power for its own sake - Toral

I must ask you to think again my friend.
31Madman
      ID: 3233813
      Tue, May 14, 2002, 13:33
Toral -- thanks for the correction on the origins of 1984. Been too long since I've read it; probably shouldn't have made a blanket statement about it. Does "A Brave New World" get into the issue of state creation? Gotta re-read both of them when I get a chance.

They don't want power for its own sake -- they generally believe it's for the public good.

Granted, for the most part. But I guess I don't see the point of the distinction, especially if what they want is NOT for the public good.
32James K Polk
      ID: 114581215
      Fri, May 17, 2002, 03:00
Nerveclinic -- Hope your friend got out of his stock position. Pretty critical Miami Herald article came out last Friday, and is largely being blamed for the stock losing 50% of its value since then. And now this: TechTV is reporting that the FDA is launching an investigation into Applied Digital. The company is also having significant financial difficulties. It fired its accountant 3 weeks ago, and the auditor it hired next just quit this week over a charge that Applied Digital doesn't want to take this quarter (because the resulting quarterly loss would be really really nasty for the stock price, and for a series of reasons could send the company into bankruptcy).
33nerveclinic
      Donor
      ID: 28419421
      Fri, May 17, 2002, 03:53
Polk I spoke with my friend 5 days ago about the stock. He put $1,000 into it when it was at .45. When it hit 1.60 he took his $1,000 back out, he is now playing purely with house money.

My interpretation of the article you linked to would be this...applied possibly about to get screwed...by IBM? If I am reading it correctly. Something tells me the chip will live on though. Perhaps it's time for the "big boys" to get involved.

It is still sitting at 1.05 which is double what he got in at.
34nerveclinic
      Donor
      ID: 28419421
      Fri, May 17, 2002, 04:17
Baldwin

Is it just me, or are there just a bunch of lemmings on this board who don't bat an eye when they hear about a family getting an implant that can track their movements?

Cooper was right.

The cattle are so gullible; the sheep are so docile, that when the shackles are being locked around their wrists, they'll think they are being given a new Rolex.

Mind Control.

Hypnotism

Marketing.

Of course it will be voluntary at first.

Of course it will seem wonderful, and practical.

Of course the press will gush about the wonderful new technology. How it can help sick people, and it can...blah, blah, blah

What are they going to do, march in with jackboots and inject us all...? They’ve learned how to market slavery so well that most of this board isn't even flinching at a 14 year old boy having a micro chip implanted into his body that can track his movements.

This is Madison Avenue baby. This is a mach 3 shaver with a lubricating strip...this is your future, and it sounds like some of you will line up for it.

ARE YOU PEOPLE ALL INSANE...OR JUST SLEEP WALKING?

OK we have a wonderful government who can do no wrong, what about 50 years from now when the next fascists are in power, hell let's make them ultra socialist liberals which is probably what they will be, what happens when they get a hold of these implants?

What are the future possibilties.?Forget the voluntary wonderful uses for today. What about tomorrow?

This is a technology we cannot risk; can't you get that through your heads? It's a microchip that is in your body that can track your movements...are you people sane?

Why is it the conspiracy freaks are the only ones with any common sense sounding rational at this moment?

I thought it would happen, but I never believed it would be so easy to convince people that it was a good thing. Or no big deal.

Cooper always said it would be.

You people are Freaks. 8-]
35nerveclinic
      Donor
      ID: 28419421
      Fri, May 17, 2002, 04:24
Toral you say: "The warning of "1984" is not against "the invasion of privacy" -- even by governments, nor against new intrusive technology, but against totalitarianism"

what better weapon for a totalitarian government then a device that could be put in all it's citizens (For benign reasons of course) that could track all their movements (Singleing out suspected enemies) and keep track of all their financial transactions giving the "total" control they desire?

I don't get your point?
36Myboyjack
      Leader
      ID: 4443038
      Fri, May 17, 2002, 09:20
OK we have a wonderful government who can do no wrong, what about 50 years from now when the next fascists are in power, hell let's make them ultra socialist liberals which is probably what they will be, what happens when they get a hold of these implants?

You are a true American, Nerve. I like that a lot. One of this country's founding principals was a healthy distrust of the government, and you have that healthy distrust in spades - which is why I am so mystifed at your frequently alluded to admiration of those pansies in Europe who believe that the bigger and more centralized the government, the better?
37Toral
      Sustainer
      ID: 2111201313
      Fri, May 17, 2002, 11:39
Nerve 35 Well if I haven't made my point yet, I'm unlikely to do better by reiterating it.

But it is that for implanted microchips or whatver to be a great instrument for totalitarian governments, you must first have totalitarian governments. And that to prevent totalitarian governments, it is more important (pace Orwell) to fight the intellectual habits of mind and errors that make totalitarianism possible, than to fight new technologies that might hypothetically be used to great effect by totalitarian governments.

Of course if one believes that there are already forces secretly at work aiming to create a totalitarian (or close) society, then the new technologies will attract your special interest. But there was nothing secret about the intentions and activities of the totalitarians Orwell was concerned about -- they were all too open.

Should we make ourselves a backward agrarian society just to make it harder for the illusory, if not imaginary, supposed totalitarian regime on our doorstep?

Toral
38Baldwin
      ID: 4261155
      Fri, May 17, 2002, 12:07
Nerveclinic

As the Anaconda starts wrapping its way around them there will never come a point when it is too tight until it is too late. You can let the lower coils grow tight, it's just those upper coils you gotta worry about. As the Anaconda first tightens this coil then that there will be no need to be alarmed because it's not like he is tightening them all. Only an alarmist, a 'Chicken Little' would sound the alarm when the coils first start to tighten.
39Baldwin
      ID: 4261155
      Fri, May 17, 2002, 12:23
We'll prolly end up with Ann Richards as 'Big Sister'.

Think of being chipped is a family value. Won't you please do it for the chil'ren?
40Seattle Zen
      Donor
      ID: 37241120
      Fri, May 17, 2002, 12:30
Post 37 - Toral

Well, we might not be "going to Hell in a handbasket" just yet, but by allowing people to implant tracking devises into their bodies, we are simply piling into the handbasket, docilely waiting for some totalitarian autocrat to pick the basket up and move down South. Why should we allow ourselves to get into a situation where we simply hope that no one abuses the power that we set up, namely using the tracking devises to subjugate the masses?
41nerveclinic
      Donor
      ID: 28419421
      Fri, May 17, 2002, 12:34
My Boy Jack...which is why I am so mystifed at your frequently alluded to admiration of those pansies in Europe who believe that the bigger and more centralized the government, the better?

What are you talking about? One of the biggest mantras I have repeated on my posts is my concern about extreme socialism because it will allow a totalitarian governemnt to control so many aspects of our lives. Find the quotes where I have praised European Socialism, you won't find them I assure you. Much to my many friends dismay I am a capitalist.

I have said that many European countries, the Dutch in particular, are more open and free about issues like sexuality, prostitution and marijuana use when people have spouted off about us being the "freeist" country on earth. I have the highest praise for that as I am a libertarian on many issues.

I draw the line at hard line socialism.

He11 I'm against the Canadian Socialised medicine.

Show me the quote bro'.
42James K Polk
      ID: 4455731
      Fri, May 17, 2002, 13:08
nerve 34 -- Just a quick dose of reality for a second -- unless we have been completely lied to, the chips that have been implanted in this family do not "track their movements." The Digital Angel technology I posted about in #8 is not what these chips are.

Of course I understand the fear that this is but the first step on the road to tracking chips, but I don't buy for a second that Americans will be so lulled to sleep that they won't get up in arms about the type of scenario you're describing.

People already get incredibly pissed off when they find out a piece of software they're using has been surreptitiously sending information about their surfing habits to some central clearinghouse. So pissed, in fact, that they force companies to stop that behavior. Given that people don't like their web movements tracked, what makes you think that the general populace wouldn't absolutely refuse to allow their personal movements to be tracked?
43Myboyjack
      Leader
      ID: 4443038
      Fri, May 17, 2002, 13:33
nerve 41 - I wasn't referring to your views on politics or economics, at all. You're a dyed in the wool capitalist, I know. I was referring to the fact that you have, several times, talked about how the Euros have such a better perspective on things, than we do. For instance, your (totally wrong, INMO) ivocation of European reporting of Jenin as being more accurate than what we got here in America. Really off topic here - so just ignore that part and keep the part where I called you a good American :)

It's totally Jeffersonian to keep an eye on the wolves who would guard the sheep - just so it's done rationally and within the realm of reality.
44 yankeeh8tr
      ID: 294351716
      Fri, May 17, 2002, 17:03
http://www.techtv.com/news/culture/story/0,24195,3384927,00.html?

How about that? Not even a full week and there's already a problem with the chip and how it's marketed. I'd say that this is a sign of just how stupid and dangerous an idea "chipping" is. Here's hoping Applied Digital Solutions goes belly up in the wake of all this.
45James K Polk
      ID: 4455731
      Fri, May 17, 2002, 19:55
Nasdaq halts trading of VeriChip maker
46nerveclinic
      Donor
      ID: 28419421
      Fri, May 17, 2002, 22:22
MBJ post 43

Let me also stress this is not simply an anti American Bias. My concerns about things like the micro chip go much further then these shores. I am not saying you said that, I just want to make that clear, I am not looking at this as an American plot...it's bigger then that.

I'll comment on the stock situation later but I have to get ready to go to party at which I will meet the estemied Mr. Zen.

Nerve
47James K Polk
      ID: 23754811
      Fri, Oct 25, 2002, 17:34
"Get Chipped!"
48Mattinglyinthehall
      Sustainer
      ID: 1629107
      Mon, Oct 06, 2003, 14:56
Japanese city plans GPS tracking system for children
49nerveclinic
      ID: 465102615
      Tue, Jul 13, 2004, 11:15
And the story continues. I guess MITH's reference above is becoming a reality...

article

Some excerpts...

Japanese authorities decide tracking is best way to protect kids

The rights and wrongs of RFID-chipping human beings have been debated since the tracking tags reached the technological mainstream. Now, school authorities in the Japanese city of Osaka have decided the benefits outweigh the disadvantages and will now be chipping children in one primary school.

The tags will be read by readers installed in school gates and other key locations to track the kids' movements.
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The chips will be put onto kids' schoolbags, name tags or clothing in one Wakayama prefecture school. Denmark's Legoland introduced a similar scheme last month to stop young children going astray.


Granted the chips are not implanted but give them time...give them time...they have to get us used to the concept first.
50Myboyjack
      ID: 108231015
      Tue, Jul 13, 2004, 15:01
Now this actually stirs my interest

NASHVILLE, Tenn. - Seven contractors have expressed interest in the state's $2.5 million pilot project that would use a global positioning system, or GPS, to keep track of violent sex offenders that have been paroled. [snip]

nitially, about half of the state's 1,200 registered sex offenders will be fitted with bracelets that will be tracked constantly by a GPS system monitored by law enforcement.


"You all are the first in the nation to do this," Mandy Wettstein of General Dynamics, one of the potential bidders on the project, told a news reporter. "The country will be watching to see how successful this sex offender tracking program is."


Tennessee is expected to award the contract by the end of the year.


The system would let law enforcement build maps with "zones of exclusion" for the sex offenders, such as playgrounds, schools, day-care centers or the homes of victims. It also would allow probation officers to determine whether the felons they are supervising are going to work during the day, going home at night and staying away from restricted areas.[snip]

The probation board will collect data on the program for a year before reporting to Gov. Phil Bredesen and the Legislature. If the program is taken statewide, it could include other types of offenders such as those convicted of domestic violence or behind in child support payments




51Baldwin
      ID: 5544766
      Tue, Jul 13, 2004, 15:25
Weeeeell, we can even extend that to political protesters and known hippies.
52yankeeh8tr
      ID: 14634137
      Tue, Jul 13, 2004, 15:29
No potential for abuse there.

Spooky.
53biliruben
      ID: 441182916
      Tue, Jul 13, 2004, 17:02
Mexico AG - chip in for safety!

Attorney General Rafael Macedo said a number of his staff had also been fitted with chips which will give them exclusive and secure access to a national, computerized database for crime investigators that went live on Monday.

"It's an area of high security, it's necessary that we have access to this, through a chip, which what's more is unremovable," Macedo told reporters.

"The system is here and I already have it. It's solely for access, for safety and so that I can be located at any moment wherever I am," he said, admitting the chip hurt "a little."

The chips would enable the wearer to be found anywhere inside Mexico, in the event of an assault or kidnapping, said Macedo.

And kidnapping is a huge problem here. From 1992 to 2002, Mexico saw some 15,000 kidnappings, second only to war-torn Colombia, according to the Inter-American Development Bank.

Crime-fighting is a dangerous business in Mexico, where police are notoriously corrupt and where political figures and investigative journalists sometimes risk assassination.


Secure access to a crime database? What kind of access? Is he some sort of human wifi or satellite internet reciever now? Does porn travel directly across his eyeballs? Anyone know about this seemingly futuristic feature?

54sarge33rd
      ID: 256211313
      Tue, Jul 13, 2004, 17:08
I recall discussing this idea sometime ago. The notion is that the chip wouold contain encrypted data to ID the bearer as an 'authorized' person for automated security to allow passage.

The failing in my eyes, if the chip is in the arm for ex, whats to keep a kidnapper from severing the arm and carrying that to the automated security gate/door/panel? Oh, we dont know where on the body was inserted? Given the apparent attitudes of those who conduct the kidnappings in Mexico these days (drug runners and such for the most part) I dont see where they wouwld have much hesitation in totally dismembering the body of one with the chip, in an effort to obtain that kind of access.
55Mattinglyinthehall
      Leader
      ID: 1629107
      Wed, Jul 14, 2004, 15:29
Mexico's attorney general has taken the unusual step of having an "anti-kidnap" chip stuck in his arm and then making the fact public - thereby ensuring that anyone lifting señor Rafael Macedo de la Concha will be certain to remove said limb at their earliest convenience.

Mexico is suffering a kidnapping epidemic, with up to 3,000 people abducted every year. Thousands of the country's citizens recently took to the streets to demand action.

Accordingly, Concha announced that several senior members of his staff plus 160 employees at a new crime database centre have also received the chips, which allegedly "serve both as an identity device and a tracking mechanism should they be kidnapped", the Guardian reports.

Concha did, however, admit that the principal role of the system was to restrict access to the database centre in an attempt to fight widespread corruption - considered a major factor in the authorities' lack of success in tackling the kidnap problem.

Which makes sense, because there is no indication as to exactly how the chip can be "tracked", nor any evidence to suggest that it can be tracked at all. Furthermore, the widespread publicity surrounding the chips has provoked one gang - known as "el chip" - to strip its victims and aggressively demand if they are tagged. Presumably, once they have accrued enough funds from their illicit activities, el chip will buy a chip scanner and save everyone a lot of time and needless upset.

56nerveclinic
      ID: 465102615
      Wed, Jul 14, 2004, 23:17
Sarge The failing in my eyes, if the chip is in the arm for ex, whats to keep a kidnapper from severing the arm and carrying that to the automated security gate/door/panel?

Trust me this issue was addressed a long time ago. It will be easy to insert it into a part of the body that is not so easily removable. Back of the neck, behind an ear...really not a dificult problem to solve.
57nerveclinic
      ID: 465102615
      Sat, Jul 17, 2004, 21:38
Well then along comes this one. Yes this is how they will get us used to the idea...

Satellites will track 5,000 of the worst criminals in Britain.
Satellite technology will be used to track 5,000 career criminals who are responsible for one in every 10 crimes in Britain, the Home Secretary David Blunkett will announce tomorrow.

The radical new technology, which has been developed in the US, will enable law enforcement officers to pinpoint the exact location of criminals who have been released early from prison and fitted with electronic tags.



The article is

HERE

58Cosmo's Cod Piece
      ID: 144192417
      Sat, Jul 17, 2004, 21:59
I love "1984". In fact its one of my favorite books.

I really like how the term "voluntary" is thrown around nowadays when it comes to technology.

My current favorite is the I-PASS. For those of you not in Illinois, that our automated method of paying tolls. You stick the transponder on the inside of your windshield and viola! you don't have to wait in line for tolls. I-PASS enrollment is purely "voluntary". That is....

Until you realize the benefits of the program. I recently purchased an I-PASS unit for both mine and my wife's cars. We've shaved an average of 10 minutes each off of a one-way commute to work and it's solely because of the I-PASS. Everyone I know that rides the tollway has one as well and has also praised the cutdown on commute time.

Can the state of Illinois track with this? I'm certain they can and I'm certain they will. Will consumers follow en masse to get this? They allready have and will continue to do so in droves. Then again, its purely "voluntary" and it poses no risk to Big Brother spying on us. Voluntary my arse, its a necessity if you want to avoid gridlock.

This program smacks of "voluntary" as well. What if a patient gets faster ER treatment because they have this chip? Well then wouldn't you want your kid to have one in case they break their leg in soccer practice and you're not around to tell the doctor that he/she is allergic to penicillin or a host of other factoids not readily available because you're not there?

Big Brother is coming and its being sold as voluntary and we're buying into it lock, stock and barrel. Everything from random roadside pullovers with no probable cause other than its a holiday weekend, I-PASS, this chip, the Low Jack Car System, the chip for your dog, and the cameras on some key street corners in Chicago whose "only" intention is to catch those that run red lights.

"If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stomping on a human face...forever."
59Baldwin
      ID: 176291721
      Sun, Jul 18, 2004, 06:55
The road to hell is paved with good intentions and great ideas like this one.
Satellite technology will be used to track 5,000 career criminals who are responsible for one in every 10 crimes in Britain, the Home Secretary David Blunkett will announce tomorrow.

The radical new technology, which has been developed in the US, will enable law enforcement officers to pinpoint the exact location of criminals who have been released early from prison and fitted with electronic tags.

It will feature among a series of measures in a five-year plan to tackle burgeoning violent crime and antisocial behaviour. Home Office figures released next week will show police forces recording rises as high as 25 per cent.
Power turns men into vampires. The power elite are hooked on one of the most powerful drugs [power itself] and you are their natural prey. Your interests are the only thing standing in the way of their next fix.

The enemy in their eyes isn't the 5,000 criminals. No, or they wouldn't have disarmed all the victims of these criminals. The enemy of the state is the people. Something the founding fathers understood when they sought to keep us armed.

The crime spree in England is directly attributable to the gun ban. The power elite sabotages and then offers to fix the problem of their own making with still more bad ideas.

They've got a criminal tracker with your name on it and they are just looking for the right way to gift wrap it.
60sarge33rd
      ID: 20661612
      Sun, Jul 18, 2004, 12:39
bear in mind Baldwin, certain basic differences between our society and Europes. (Germany at any rate.) Here, an accused is presumed innocent unless and until proven guilty. There, the presumption is guilt and innocence must be proven, else...why would the Police have arrested you?

You are correct in pointing out (IMHO) that our Founding Fatners deliberately set out to ensure the rights of the general population to keep and bear arms. The terminology of the day was such that "militia" referred to common folk. (Witness the designations of 'militia" for Revolutionary War units comprised of farmers and merchants for the most part. Illtrained and illequipped, these units were not "Regular Army" and hence the sometimes disdainful attitude toward them on the part of various Field Commanders.
61nerveclinic
      ID: 465102615
      Tue, Jul 20, 2004, 01:17
Cosmos... Can the state of Illinois track with this? I'm certain they can and I'm certain they will.

Consider that we who own cell phones can be tracked using the GPS device in most cell phones sold today. This is how 911 can find where the cell phone call came from.

Then there is On Star. Any car can be tracked with this device.

Then there are the new on board mapping systems in some new cars that help you find the best route, these also track where your car is.
62Cosmo's Cod Piece
      ID: 144192417
      Tue, Jul 20, 2004, 06:30
nerve: Good points, but remember that I-PASS is a government program unlike On Star and the cell phones. Which group(s) are the best at protecting citizen rights from the government? I honestly don't know.

If used responsibly with enough citizen watchdogs, the I-PASS program can reap hordes of benefits for the consumer and state government eventually.

My idealistic Illinois tollway dream is for the elimination of all manual tollways by the year 2010. All consumers must have an I-PASS to ride the tolls. It would increase speeding tickets (thru vehicle tracking if a vehicle averaged over a certain amount), decrease gridlock, and be a cash cow for the state. They'd make way more money on an all I-PASS toll system thru interest earned on the open balances on our accounts and thru an overall less costly toll system because everything is automatic.
63Baldwin
      ID: 8631812
      Tue, Jul 20, 2004, 06:45
My dream is for the Illinois Tollway to be handed to the federal government as free highways as promised when they were built in the first place.

They are always sold as temporary. Then the board of directors of the tollways start repaying those cushy jobs with huge campaign contributions and the governor has a change of heart.
64Cosmo's Cod Piece
      ID: 144192417
      Tue, Jul 20, 2004, 22:08
Dream on Baldwin, the day that happens is the day the lottery proceeds are used solely for education. :)

Remember when having a crooked Republican governor was much more productive than having an incompetent liberal? At least we had a budget under Ryan, half of it went to his friends, but dangit we at least had a budget.
65nerveclinic
      ID: 88592016
      Wed, Oct 13, 2004, 15:35
Post 33... Polk I spoke with my friend 5 days ago about the stock. He put $1,000 into it when it was at .45. When it hit 1.60 he took his $1,000 back out, he is now playing purely with house money.

It is still sitting at 1.05 which is double what he got in at. (May 17 2002)


So May 2002 I pointed out this veri-chip stock was at $1.05.

Today the FDA approved the chip for implantation into humans. The company is free to do what it will with it.

Yesterday the stock closed at 2.10

It opened today at 2.65

It's at $3.35 close to the close today up over 50% in one day based on the FDA announcement.

Too bad I don't buy individual stocks. it's up 335% since I first talked about this in May of 2002.

The chip is on the way baby.



66nerveclinic
      ID: 88592016
      Wed, Oct 13, 2004, 16:33
Closed at 3.57 up almost 70% for the day.

Not a bad days profit.
67nerveclinic
      ID: 88592016
      Wed, Oct 13, 2004, 16:38
Oh just got off the phone with my friend. Yes he still has his money in the stock.

Just to remind you, this is a guy who bought this implant stock because he buys into the conspiracy theory that the concept of implants will continue to grow as planned strategy, that's why he bought the stock.

If you can't beat them, join them.
68nerveclinic
      ID: 88592016
      Wed, Oct 13, 2004, 16:39
The story

posting from work so I can actually link.

Implants approved by FDA
69nerveclinic
      ID: 88592016
      Wed, Oct 13, 2004, 16:41
From the article...

Meanwhile, the chip has been used for a number of security-related tasks as well as for pure whimsy: Club hoppers in Barcelona, Spain, now use the microchip much like a smartcard to speed drink orders and payment.
70nerveclinic
      ID: 34757310
      Mon, Dec 06, 2004, 23:31
This thread is actually better for the stock discussion.

$7.16 today

Just to remind you again, this is a friend who bought this implant stock because he buys into the conspiracy theory that the concept of implants will continue to grow as planned strategy, that's why he bought the stock.

he's done quite well obviously.

As I said before if you can't beat them, join them.
71nerveclinic
      ID: 34757310
      Tue, Dec 07, 2004, 05:12
Polk Post 32... Nerveclinic -- Hope your friend got out of his stock position. Pretty critical Miami Herald article came out last Friday, and is largely being blamed for the stock losing 50% of its value since then. And now this: TechTV is reporting that the FDA is launching an investigation into Applied Digital. The company is also having significant financial difficulties. It fired its accountant 3 weeks ago, and the auditor it hired next just quit this week over a charge that Applied Digital doesn't want to take this quarter (because the resulting quarterly loss would be really really nasty for the stock price, and for a series of reasons could send the company into bankruptcy).

Um no he didn't get his money out except for the original investment. When you wrote this the stock was at a buck. now it's over $7.00...that's a 700% increase in 2.5 years.
72nerveclinic
      ID: 10351720
      Mon, Apr 18, 2005, 00:58

I listen to Drudge most Sundays.

I often disagree with his politics but I still love his web page and I enjoy listening to the show.

The last several weeks he's been going on and on about implants and how the US government is going to implant all of us some day.

The main ignitor this time around was when he young girl was killed in Florida a month ago and people were calling for sex offenders be implanted.

Welcome to the party Drudge, your about 15 years behind but we will take it when we can get it.

Nerve

73nerveclinic
      ID: 19730619
      Sun, Feb 19, 2006, 14:46


Boxman put this in the WTF thread but I thought it would be better placed here so we can continue to document these as they occur.

link

Tiny silicon chips were embedded into two workers who volunteered to help test the tagging technology at a surveillance equipment company, an official said Monday.

Sean Darks, chief executive of the company, also had one of the chips embedded.

"I have one," he said. "I'm not going to ask somebody to do something I wouldn't do myself. None of my employees are forced to get the chip to keep their job."

The chips are the size of a grain of rice and a doctor embedded them in the forearm just under the surface of the skin, Darks said.

They work "like an access card. There's a reader outside the door; you walk up to the reader, put your arm under it, and it opens the door," Darks said.


Again in the late 90's when Bill Cooper told audiences as talks I attended this would happen they openly mocked him and told him "no American is going to stand for an implant being put in their arm".

74nerevclinic
      ID: 214292922
      Fri, Jun 02, 2006, 03:00


Proposal to Implant Tracking Chips in Immigrants

75Seattle Zen
      ID: 46315247
      Sun, Oct 01, 2006, 20:43
Re: Post 1

Derek Jacobs, a teen engineering prodigy who gained national attention in 2002 when he and his family received identification chip implants on live television was killed in a motorcycle accident, authorities said.

So who killed him and what did he know? Or does he come from a family of poor drivers?
76Boxman
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      Mon, Oct 02, 2006, 13:42
Just curious Zen if you have anything to contribute other than sarcasm and birth announcements. Nerveclinic put forth a pretty solid case regarding the implants and I haven't seen a quality counter argument on these boards or anywhere else for that matter.
77Seattle Zen
      ID: 46315247
      Mon, Oct 02, 2006, 14:16
Hey, I contribute a ton of political cartoons.

I can't expect you to pick up on the subtleties in my post because you haven't been around all that long and you are a rather dim bulb, but Nerve often points to accidential deaths as evidence of the evil machinations of dark forces maneuvering behind the curtain. I'm post was just a little jab at him.

Nerveclinic put forth a pretty solid case regarding the implants and I haven't seen a quality counter argument on these boards or anywhere else for that matter.

Really? What is the argument? One side is in favor of implanting computer chips in humans, a technology that one day will allow people to be tracked. The other side is against this technology. Perhaps you haven't heard a "quality counter argument" because no one in the world would support chip implants in humans, it's assinine. Anyone who read my post and thought I supported chip implants is dim indeed.
78boikin
      ID: 59831214
      Mon, Oct 02, 2006, 14:21
there must be some case infavor of the implants or there would be no body willing spend money into R&D of them.
79Seattle Zen
      ID: 86541617
      Mon, Jul 23, 2007, 10:26
Chips: High tech aids or tracking tools?
To some, the microchip was a wondrous invention - a high-tech helper that could increase security at nuclear plants and military bases, help authorities identify wandering Alzheimer's patients, allow consumers to buy their groceries, literally, with the wave of a chipped hand.

To others, the notion of tagging people was Orwellian, a departure from centuries of history and tradition in which people had the right to go and do as they pleased, without being tracked, unless they were harming someone else.

Chipping, these critics said, might start with Alzheimer's patients or Army Rangers, but would eventually be suggested for convicts, then parolees, then sex offenders, then illegal aliens - until one day, a majority of Americans, falling into one category or another, would find themselves electronically tagged.
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