The last time I checked, the President, even the great ones of the past, couldn't fly AF-1, therefore, the pilots, controlled by the Secret Service, are in charge of where the plane goes. Further, Bush's remarks about returning to Washington were made at a time when it is absolutely unclear as to whether or not it was safe to return to Washington. When will you people realize that the airplanes were not the only threat? It is blind to think that the airplanes were the only threat. The President may have thought so, but the FBI, CIA, or Secret Service may have had information to the contrary and would be in a better position to make that call. Bush is not taking orders. He is being forced to not take his own safety for granted, something which any President would be forced to do.

19 Aunt Jackie        Sludge - Cool Story, but you are still a big ole dork!
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From ESPN (speaking to Larry Bowa): Larry Bowa has been told to turn their team bus around by their GM and head back to PHI from their trip to CIN, whom they were to play this weekend.

My response: "Well, we're pretty damned excited about it. We're pretty sure that the 200 we lost were the bastards that kept us from getting our last pay raise and that's why we sent them in first. We were hoping all along that the building would collapse and what do you know, it happened. Yeah, we're pretty much overjoyed right now."

However, Embry-Riddle isn't exactly a "mom and pop" flight school, so they did know what they were doing in that aspect also. They went to a good flight school and probably got a lot more than the quickie lesson found in the schools you're talking about.

This is why you hear the stories like Sister Helen Prejean and her fight to get Death Row convicts to repent and beg forgiveness for their sins. Again, they're not asking us.

3 At harvesttime Cain brought to the LORD a gift of his farm produce, 4 while Abel brought several choice lambs from the best of his flock. The LORD accepted Abel and his offering, 5 but he did not accept Cain and his offering. This made Cain very angry and dejected.

6 "Why are you so angry?" the LORD asked him. "Why do you look so dejected? 7 You will be accepted if you respond in the right way. But if you refuse to respond correctly, then watch out! Sin is waiting to attack and destroy you, and you must subdue it."

8 Later Cain suggested to his brother, Abel, "Let's go out into the fields." F13 And while they were there, Cain attacked and killed his brother.

9 Afterward the LORD asked Cain, "Where is your brother? Where is Abel?""I don't know!" Cain retorted. "Am I supposed to keep track of him wherever he goes?" 10 But the LORD said, "What have you done? Listen – your brother's blood cries out to me from the ground! 11 You are hereby banished from the ground you have defiled with your brother's blood. 12 No longer will it yield abundant crops for you, no matter how hard you work! From now on you will be a homeless fugitive on the earth, constantly wandering from place to place."

13 Cain replied to the LORD, "My punishment F14 is too great for me to bear! 14 You have banished me from my land and from your presence; you have made me a wandering fugitive. All who see me will try to kill me!" 15 The LORD replied, "They will not kill you, for I will give seven times your punishment to anyone who does." Then the LORD put a mark on Cain to warn anyone who might try to kill him.

Ender, I read the passage you pointed to and it does seem to put the Goverments in charge of judgement and punishment, but it says nothing with regard to us "common folk". Forgive me as I use the "New Translation" for it's a bit easier for me to read and understand (obviously):

1 Obey the government, for God is the one who put it there. All governments have been placed in power by God. 2 So those who refuse to obey the laws of the land are refusing to obey God, and punishment will follow. 3 For the authorities do not frighten people who are doing right, but they frighten those who do wrong. So do what they say, and you will get along well. 4 The authorities are sent by God to help you. But if you are doing something wrong, of course you should be afraid, for you will be punished. The authorities are established by God for that very purpose, to punish those who do wrong.

So this obviously leaves us following our leaders in condemning the terrorists and, presumably, going after them. It's just such a gray area to me where God says (just verses later) "9 For the commandments against adultery and murder and stealing and coveting – and any other commandment – are all summed up in this one commandment: "Love your neighbor as yourself." F81 10 Love does no wrong to anyone, so love satisfies all of God's requirements." and yet we can still follow our leaders (God's workers) and be able to kill others.

Don't get me wrong. I still have a very strong feeling that those who did this need to pay for what they did. I just don't know where we, as people, come into play and when it becomes "ok". I imagine the breakdown is something like this: It's not ok for you, as a soul individual, to be judge and executioner, however if that is what your government, people whom God has put in place to do his deeds, has determined needs your help, then you are to provide it.