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Subject: MLB beat the streak

Posted by: CubbiePete - [5625168] Wed, Apr 10, 2002, 15:48

Anyone doing this game? Currently I have a 9 game hitting streak and I know that one day I'll pick a dud. So does anyone have a system on picking a hitter other than pick a good player vs. a sucky pitcher/staff ? Should I pick leadoff hitters only cuz they get more AB's? Beat the streak

JeffG
Sustainer
ID: 40451227
Wed, Apr 10, 2002, 16:00

I am playing. Have a big 3-game streak going now, after losing a 3-gamer to open the season.

It is not doing that great as you can see, but my strategy tends to be take road players who are among the league hit leaders, in the top of the order, and look for good matchups. The road game gives you a guaranteed 9 innings at bat where the home team may not bat in the 9th. May come into play.

The rest of this week is:

Soriano (road vs Toronto) today and tomorrow. He hits very well in Skydome.

Jacques Jones (home vs Detroit's Redmen) Friday.

Ichiro Saturday and Sunday (road vs Texas Irabu and Rogers).

I'd be interested in hearing how others attack this game.

Seattle Zen
Donor
ID: 411302615
Wed, Apr 10, 2002, 16:45

Thanks for pointing out the game, I think it's pretty cool. I had to laugh, though, when I looked at the "Standings", the guys who have 10 game streaks going. Someone had "Ken Griffey Jr." today. I have a sneaking suspicion that they won't be on the leader board tomorrow.

CanEHdian Pride
Donor
ID: 426351415
Wed, Apr 10, 2002, 17:21

cool game. I'm gonna try to give that 10 game streak a run for sure.

***Hint*** Scott Eyre sucks, take a Red Sock tomorrow.

Manny is starting to heat up. He'll be good for a single.

Ira
ID: 1591458
Wed, Apr 10, 2002, 19:20

I got Jeter tomorrow vs. Eyre
then Edmunds the next day

Khahan
ID: 567232217
Wed, Apr 10, 2002, 19:24

Awesome, of course I'm doing this.
Of course, its going to take a Red Sox fan to bring down Joe D's streak. ;)

CanEHdian Pride
Donor
ID: 426351415
Fri, Apr 12, 2002, 09:25

Manny Ramirez waits til the ninth to start off my hitting streak. Had me sweatin' a bit.

Geoff Jenkins lined up today. Just a hunch.

Khahan
ID: 12432113
Fri, Apr 12, 2002, 10:43

Well, last night was my 1st night playing and I chose Nomar. Go figure. 0-3 with a walk in his last at bat. At least he didn't break a streak for me.

CanEHdian Pride
Donor
ID: 426351415
Fri, Apr 12, 2002, 12:44

okay...i'm an idiot. Ramirez didn't get a hit last night.

Here's to the start of a streak longer than 0.

Rogue's Strikers
ID: 53581212
Fri, Apr 12, 2002, 13:18

Just signed up, didn't make it in time for today's games. I got a question: If you forget to make a pick one day, will your streak be reset to zero?

J
Leader
ID: 49346417
Fri, Apr 12, 2002, 13:37

I took Giambi last night. No hitting streak for me.

I'm assuming if you dont pick anyone your streak just stays where it is, but you know what they say about assuming!

Also, when exactly is the deadline each day for picking players (too lazy to actually read any rules)

Rogue's Strikers
ID: 53581212
Fri, Apr 12, 2002, 13:40

Just read the rules. The deadline is 12 noon EST, and if you fail to make a pick your streak is reset. Interesting... Are there any days with only a couple of games being played? Like a Monday perhaps? Might be tough to continue the streak if thats the case...

ChicagoTRS
Sustainer
ID: 19325417
Fri, Apr 12, 2002, 13:45

Does make it tough...but someone is going to get hits every day...

JeffG
Sustainer
ID: 40451227
Fri, Apr 12, 2002, 13:48

From the Rules:

If a player you select does not play during the day for which you selected him for any reason, your streak will end and you are free to start again from zero.

I guess that includes rain outs and days where a player may be given a rest day.

JeffG
Sustainer
ID: 40451227
Fri, Apr 12, 2002, 13:50

Wait, rainouts do not count. Should have read the next sentence.

Your streak will remain intact in the event of a cancelled or postponed game.

In the event that a player you select plays in a double-header, your streak will continue as long as the player gets at least one hit in either of the two games.

Rogue's Strikers
ID: 53581212
Fri, Apr 12, 2002, 13:59

If a player is given a rest day though your streak will end. This is going to be tough.

J
Leader
ID: 49346417
Fri, Apr 12, 2002, 14:46

what about if you just dont pick anyone?

JeffG
Sustainer
ID: 40451227
Fri, Apr 12, 2002, 15:00

No pick and the streak ends.

From the rules:

Player Selection Deadline
The deadline for selecting your player each day is 12:00 PM ET. If you fail to pick a player on any day, your streak will be reset to zero. You can enter the game at any point during the 2002 MLB regular season.

Gary
ID: 322111717
Fri, Apr 12, 2002, 16:44

Well I signed on today and got a one game streak going yahoo for Lofton.

superclydes
ID: 7242816
Fri, Apr 12, 2002, 17:11

I am also playing this game and I picked Ichiro last night. Starting all over again!! It kind of sucks trying to play the game from England. I don't get the up to the minute stats. I can if I stay on the internet the entire day. Oh well, when I first saw the game, I thought, SEASON TICKETS HERE I COME. Wrong. Apparently the closest anyone got last year was 25 games away!! Not even half way!! I guess that is why the prizes are so good. Got Edmonds tonight, so lets hope I can keep my streak going, I mean started.

Khahan
ID: 567232217
Fri, Apr 12, 2002, 20:32

Hey, i got a 1 game hit streak going...go Jacques Jones.

Khahan
ID: 12432113
Mon, Apr 15, 2002, 07:58

butt

chartle23
ID: 12328158
Mon, Apr 15, 2002, 08:56

Some of you guys should remember me, im Punxsyphil from last years season. Well anyways, thanx for bringing this game up.....I had never heard of it until now. Also.....Im all signed up and if your looking for someone to get a hit today (April 15th) look to Colorados J. Uribe. Hes hitting against the left handed pitcher (Perez) from the LA Dodgers. Just so you can see where im coming from.....go to espn.com and go to the rockies team page. Go to batting statistics. Look above the statistic box and the drop down menu named.....splits. Check out the Rockies hitters against left-handed pitchers....check them out when they are batting at home.....and check them out when batting against LA Dodger pitching staff. You will see that if statistics are correct....Uribe and Zeile are almost definatley going to get a hit today. Well anyways.....good luck everyone.....

punxsyphil
ID: 12328158
Mon, Apr 15, 2002, 09:54

What do you guys think of my pick of Uribe for today......?

Like I said....Zeile is also a great pick...

James K Polk
ID: 4455731
Mon, Apr 15, 2002, 13:12

Any chance you'd add a link to Beat the Streak in the "Game sites" section under the dropdown, Guru?

punxsyphil
ID: 12328158
Mon, Apr 15, 2002, 17:57

b.u.t.t

Ira
ID: 1591458
Mon, Apr 15, 2002, 21:48

Alomar starts me off tonight. I got Bagwell the next 2 days..

InvestSmart
ID: 40239212
Mon, Apr 15, 2002, 23:52

Larry Walker + Frank Thomas = three 15 game streaks snapped

CanEHdian Pride
Donor
ID: 426351415
Wed, Apr 17, 2002, 21:01

BUTT, just in case anyone is interested

;)

Mr. Nice Guy
ID: 421124113
Wed, Apr 17, 2002, 21:46

YES! Two game streak. Ichiro last night and Garciaparra today. What's more amazing is that DiMaggio was one player who did this, he didn't get to ride whoever was hot and what not.

Ira
ID: 1591458
Wed, Apr 17, 2002, 21:52

3 for me today. Basgwell gets hits today & yesterday

Rogue's Strikers
ID: 5135171
Thu, Apr 18, 2002, 00:33

Up to 3 for me also.

ChicagoTRS
Sustainer
ID: 58735170
Thu, Apr 18, 2002, 00:36

was at 4...now at zero...biggio...noticed one or two of the leaders got jacked today by the Larry Walker DNP

Mr. Nice Guy
ID: 421124113
Thu, Apr 18, 2002, 00:38

This is a really cool game.

CanEHdian Pride
Donor
ID: 426351415
Thu, Apr 18, 2002, 02:18

Jacque Jones starts my first streak going 1-4.

Gonna ride the hot bat of Rob Fick tomorrow vs. the DRays.

Khahan
ID: 12432113
Thu, Apr 18, 2002, 07:53

Loduca just snapped a 5 game streak for me. First 7 games of the season I picked, I went 0-for then 5 games then an 0-for.
Figured LoDuca in Colorado would be automatic, 1 night off is all it takes.

CanEHdian Pride
Donor
ID: 426351415
Thu, Apr 18, 2002, 10:32

I'd be extemely wary of taking a catcher in this game except for maybe 1 or 2 days after they've just sat down. It's hard to predict when a catcher will get a night off (injury, pitcher might find a receiver-preference, rest day). I'd stick with position players who are injury free and get alot of ABs. Seeing as the Tigers bat Fick even when he is injured I think he is a safe bet to go tonight.

Khahan
ID: 12432113
Thu, Apr 18, 2002, 10:35

That's my general rule of thumb, also Eh, but
LA uses LoDuca in the field often when he does not start at catcher. He was in Colorado and has traditionally (can that be said of a guy who's only had 1 full season) has hit Rockies pitching very well in Coors.

silver-n-black
Donor
ID: 297382911
Thu, Apr 18, 2002, 15:14

Damn, signed up yesterday, got a hit out of Nick Johnson, forgot to make a pick today. I'll restart tomorrow and probably set up the whole weekend.

InvestSmart
ID: 40239212
Thu, Apr 18, 2002, 19:23

Whew...accidentally picked Berkman for today...didn't realize the injury.

Mr. Nice Guy
ID: 421124113
Thu, Apr 18, 2002, 19:48

Pujols going today, my way of going about it is picking good players against weak pitching. I also go on hunches as I'm sure many of us do.

Rogue's Strikers
ID: 49326182
Thu, Apr 18, 2002, 20:04

Same here MNG, took Pujols for the same reason you did.

KrazyKoalaBears
Donor
ID: 266182910
Thu, Apr 18, 2002, 22:28

Pujols is likely to end your streak unless STL puts up a HUGE comeback in the 9th.

I pushed my streak up to a whopping 4 games thanks to Daryle Ward. Drew and Alfonzo for the next 2 days.

Rogue's Strikers
ID: 49326182
Thu, Apr 18, 2002, 22:44

Yep, looks like our streaks are over. Doh. lol

Mr. Nice Guy
ID: 421124113
Thu, Apr 18, 2002, 23:00

dang it, there goes my 2 game streak. lotsa season left though

CanEHdian Pride
Donor
ID: 426351415
Fri, Apr 19, 2002, 08:27

Hmmm...something is messed up with my "Pick Player" page. Wrong current streak, wrong longest streak and 3 players that I didn't pick. "Results" page is correct and the message boards show the correct user name.

Just for the record I want Paul Lo Duca in case I need proof later on. E-mailed them but I'm not sure if they will handle it on time and if it is someone else's pick page I don't want to mess their streak up by changing things.

CanEHdian Pride
Donor
ID: 426351415
Fri, Apr 19, 2002, 09:21

Nice....all fixed now, but I've changed my mind.

Goin' with Manny today. He's red hot and Chad Durbin is awful.

RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 1924582
Sat, Apr 20, 2002, 11:42

Talk about dumbass and then redemption:

Dumbass: I picked Bernie Williams on Thursday. This was my first pick at all in this game. Huh? What was I thinking?

Redemption: I picked Rich Aurilia on Friday. 2 hits, including a dinger! Can I use one of those for Bernie's? :-)

Come on Magglio! Lets go for 2 in a row!

discgolfer
Sustainer
ID: 392252015
Mon, Apr 22, 2002, 06:08

up to 4 days now. Just got done riding Soriano for 3 games.

RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 211013916
Mon, Apr 22, 2002, 11:54

Something strange is going on...

Here are the first 4 pick I made in this game:

4/18 Bernie Williams (DNP, don't ask)
4/19 Rich Aurilia (2 for 5)
4/20 Magglio Ordonez (3 for 4)
4/21 Ichiro Suzuki (2 for 4)

I made all those picks on the same day.
The game says I have a 0 game hit streak, when clearly it should be a 3 game hit streak. Because I boneheaded the first pick, do I have to repick the following days, or something?

JeffG
Sustainer
ID: 40451227
Mon, Apr 22, 2002, 11:58

I think something was wrong with the current streak. Mine still said 8 yesterday which is what it was Friday 4/19. After a 2-game hitless streak since and getting back on track yesterday, it should say 1 for me, which it just did again now.

discgolfer
Sustainer
ID: 392252015
Mon, Apr 22, 2002, 15:48

Mine is not wright either. It say 2 game streak but if I look under results 2002 it shows the 4 game streak.

RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 42121814
Tue, Apr 23, 2002, 13:20

I'd be curious to what the longest Gurupie streak is so far. Maybe at the end of a long streak we should post our results. I personally am up to 4 games now and am having fun with this! Come on pAyRod!

J
Leader
ID: 49346417
Tue, Apr 23, 2002, 13:32

crap! I forgot to play today, there goes my 1 game streak!!!!

discgolfer
Sustainer
ID: 253182222
Tue, Apr 23, 2002, 17:56

I'm at 5 with Berkman going tonite

JeffG
Sustainer
ID: 40451227
Tue, Apr 23, 2002, 18:03

Longest so far for me: I had an 8-gamer broken over the weekend. Too bad we cannot build a division.

RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 42121814
Wed, Apr 24, 2002, 12:40

ARGGGH! My 5 game streak just went to waste because some DUMBASS forgot to make a selection today!

silver-n-black
Donor
ID: 297382911
Wed, Apr 24, 2002, 12:45

I set up my hitters for the week, just in case I forget to make a pick. I can still go back and change a pick if I need to, but at least I'm covered if to busy or I forget.

silver-n-black
Donor
ID: 297382911
Thu, Apr 25, 2002, 14:25

Who does everybody have? I already got todays hit from Konerko, two game streak, woohoo. Rusty Greer tomorrow against Chuck Finley and his 7.90 ERA.

Dan
Sustainer
ID: 0229323
Thu, Apr 25, 2002, 14:26

damnit my 1 game streak is gone as another dumbass forgot to pick!!! UGH!

silver-n-black
Donor
ID: 297382911
Thu, Apr 25, 2002, 14:32

We need to keep BUTTing this thread to remind everyone to pick. As I suggested above, set up your hitters in advance, you can always go change them.

patjams
ID: 193122515
Thu, Apr 25, 2002, 15:37

Has anyone else tried to access the game today? I've tried a couple of times and it keeps telling me that I don't have an account.

Khahan
ID: 12432113
Thu, Apr 25, 2002, 15:39

I got in, no problems around 11:30 am est time, Jams. Just in time to change my guy to manny and take my streak to 5.

patjams
ID: 193122515
Thu, Apr 25, 2002, 15:49

Khahan, I think I had Manny as well so I wanted to check but it's not allowing me in.

InvestSmart
ID: 40239212
Fri, Apr 26, 2002, 23:51

Oof, leader with 26 just got his streak broken with

:)

Well, the 2 guys with 22 game streaks now have 23.

discgolfer
Sustainer
ID: 253182222
Sat, Apr 27, 2002, 18:41

Back to a 4 game streak

InvestSmart
ID: 40239212
Sat, Apr 27, 2002, 19:28

Argh, Sosa kills my 11 game streak because of a rainout.

JeffG
Sustainer
ID: 53239160
Sat, Apr 27, 2002, 19:42

Rainouts do not kill the streak. See post #14, or hit link in post #17.

Better yet, you should pick a Dodger or Cub for tomorrow's make up doubleheader. From the rules:

In the event that a player you select plays in a double-header, your streak will continue as long as the player gets at least one hit in either of the two games.

InvestSmart
ID: 40239212
Sat, Apr 27, 2002, 20:57

Hm, didn't read that. Thanks. Guess I'll pick a guy who's playing 2 games tomorrow.

blockaa
Donor
ID: 13251917
Sat, Apr 27, 2002, 23:59

Would hate for anyone to listen to me and blow their streak, but Brian Giles seems to be a pretty good pick for Sunday . . . surely he can get a hit in 2 games vs. the Padres.

RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 211013916
Tue, Apr 30, 2002, 09:36

Hmmm. Lets see. I had a 5 game streak. Forgot to pick 2 days in a row. And now have a 4 game streak. Does that count as a 9 game streak? :(

Pick 'em before its too late!

Madman
ID: 3233813
Tue, Apr 30, 2002, 12:19

1) Thanks for bringing this game to my attention guys.

2) I want to re-interate previous advice from above pick a week's worth of players at a time!. You can always change later.

The last two days I've been swamped. I just got back to the keyboard, and, oops!, the freeze line passed.

However, I had already picked Ichiro for the series with the White Sox as of last week. Granted, he may not play with his knee situation. But I made that pick last week sometime. Better to have a pick than no pick at all.

3) Since I am posting to this thread, my current 9 game streak will undoubtedly end.

This game definitely goes to those who are willing to wait it out! The good news? If you are starting a streak right about now, you still have a chance for the 100 game grand prize! Assuming we don't have to pick a guy for the All-Star game. That would be tough.

J
ID: 56352917
Tue, Apr 30, 2002, 13:50

With Darren Oliver pitching alot this week, I think it may a good idea to pick up some Orioles and Devil Rays :)

J
Leader
ID: 49346417
Wed, May 01, 2002, 01:58

hmmm, haven't been able to pick a player for tomorrow's games. Tried on a computer at work this afternoon, now tried it again and nothing! Same problem....hmmmm

RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 211013916
Wed, May 01, 2002, 10:19

Hey Battah Battah Battah!

silver-n-black
Donor
ID: 297382911
Wed, May 01, 2002, 10:35

J-
Does everything freeze up after you hit the submit button? That's what's happening to me today. Anybody else?

RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 211013916
Wed, May 01, 2002, 10:37

Yep. Me too. Arg!!!

Kings Fan
ID: 83261610
Wed, May 01, 2002, 10:38

It froze up on me too. Still waiting...

philflyboy
Leader
ID: 342462420
Wed, May 01, 2002, 10:54

yep same problems here

Khahan
ID: 12432113
Wed, May 01, 2002, 11:31

Trying to pick Todd Helton for today. Same problem.
If you click on submit a 2nd time it tells you to wait. 11:30 am its still happening.

J
Leader
ID: 49346417
Wed, May 01, 2002, 11:42

yep, thats what was happening to me yesterday, since about 3:00.

Maybe this is how they avoid giving out too many prizes!!!!

J
Leader
ID: 49346417
Wed, May 01, 2002, 11:48

they heard me, it worked, just picked up Garret.

Khahan
ID: 12432113
Wed, May 01, 2002, 11:58

Still won't let me pick. 11:58. There goes my 1 game hit streak! ;)

silver-n-black
Donor
ID: 297382911
Wed, May 01, 2002, 11:58

Just noticed this on the website:

* Due to issues with the player selection process, everyone will be credited with a hit for the games of May 1.

silver-n-black
Donor
ID: 297382911
Wed, May 01, 2002, 12:01

It is below your list of hitters. Now, I didn't see it until after my pick of Johnny Damon finally went through. If he goes 0-4, I better get my hit.

Madman
ID: 3233813
Wed, May 01, 2002, 12:47

Ouch. Everyone creditted with a single hit. This could have serious tie-break ramifications. Oh well. I'll take it. I just want to get as close to 34 games as possible, and this is a freebie.

RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 42121814
Wed, May 01, 2002, 19:50

All I know is I was going to pick Manny Ramirez. And he is going off. Would feel better if I could have actually got that pick in.

discgolfer
Sustainer
ID: 253182222
Wed, May 01, 2002, 22:05

Looks like a get a break today. I had picked Bonds and he did not play today. Still will count as a hit. That will put me to 8 games. I'll take it any way I can get it.

silver-n-black
Donor
ID: 297382911
Thu, May 02, 2002, 08:46

BUTT-Reminder, get your picks in.

Did MLB make good on there one hit for all? I had Damon with two hits, so it didn't matter to me.

Huskiez
ID: 41220315
Thu, May 02, 2002, 12:42

All the leaders have a streak of at least 1 so I'm guessing they did. For me however, it says yesterday's pick (I didn't get one in as I was unable to) was Danny Hocking who got a hit, so that should have continued my streak. However, it says my current streak is 0. Hope they fix it.

silver-n-black
Donor
ID: 297382911
Fri, May 03, 2002, 11:16

Get your picks in!!

RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 42121814
Fri, May 03, 2002, 11:41

OH VLADE! You blew my 6 game streak!

Khahan
ID: 12432113
Fri, May 03, 2002, 12:59

grr, streak ended because I forgot to pick a player.

S-n-B at Home
ID: 373432523
Sat, May 04, 2002, 11:21

What happenned to Konerko last night? 4 game streak down the tubes.

Stuck in the Sixties
Leader
ID: 22255277
Sat, May 04, 2002, 12:24

I can't even imagine how anyone would win this game.
A major league hitter, a good one, fails 7 out of 10 times. So there's that. If you pick random good hitters, you're bucking tremendous odds.

So it makes sense to me to pick an Ichiro or somebody like that and hope to pick up on a hot streak. But even so, a 20-game hitting streak isn't much for this game and a player would be lucky to have even one during a season.

Madman
ID: 21020124
Sat, May 04, 2002, 12:41

S-n-B -- routine night off. Konerko had gone hitless the previous game. He'll be good for the weekend.

I would feel more sympathy for you, but the world-wide leader had Konerko last night, as well, so even though I have him on my fantasy team (Yahoo!) I was hoping he wouldn't play. My apologies for rooting against you.

But now I'm 16 back of the leader AND have a chance to catch him. Good grief. 16 back of the leader; geez. I haven't even gotten a 16 game streak yet!!

Madman
ID: 21020124
Sat, May 04, 2002, 12:54

Stuck in the Sixties . . . well, 36 or more people have had 20 games so far. And we are just one month into the season.

If you pick a hitter with a .330 batting average, and that hitter is guaranteed 4 At-Bats in the game, then you have an 80% chance of getting a hit in the game.

That means you have a 1.1% chance of getting a 20 game hit streak.

If your hitters get 5 at-bats, then the probability jumps to 5.5%.

All in all, given the fact that you get to play the match-ups and pick certain hitters, I think it is very feasible to get a 20 game hit streak at some point during the season.

Getting a 34 game hit streak would also require some luck. But you'd get a few cool baseball cards.

Anything above that would be phenomenal; that would be a once-in-a-season phenomenon. Not just because the odds of getting up there are so long, but also because there are only 183 possible games in a season!

Madman
ID: 21020124
Sat, May 04, 2002, 13:04

BTW, that 1.1% chance of getting a 20 game hit streak is for any given 20 game span!

Given that there are 163 20 game span's in any given season, I would hope you could get a 20 game streak at some point in the season. It's not guaranteed, but you should be able to get close.

Madman
ID: 21020124
Sat, May 04, 2002, 13:06

Hmmm. Although there aren't 163 independent 20 game spans . . . thus, you can't just take the 1.1% times 163 . . . Didn't mean to imply that. All I meant to say is that you'll have a lot of chances. It's a long season.

100

Huskiez
ID: 41220315
Sat, May 04, 2002, 17:38

Hm not sure if the hitter would be guaranteed 4 at bats per game, but instead plate appearances.. if someone has a .330 average, that doesn't factor in walks.. so depending on how many times a player is walked per game he could have 5 plate appearances and only two at bats (e.g. ARod yesterday).. luckily he got a hit for me though.

101

Stuck in the Sixties
Leader
ID: 59444219
Sat, May 04, 2002, 19:19

Madman,
Now we know why I didn't major in math but as you point out even the 20-game streak doesn't mean much.

102

Madman
ID: 21020124
Sun, May 05, 2002, 15:19

My streak just hit 15 games.

The real difficulty, however, is getting your streak through Monday's. Usually, there aren't that many games, so you can't get the good match-ups.

Yeah, 5 AB's is probably too much to average. I'm getting 3.67 or so over the last 10 games (the ones listed on the Results board).

Nevertheless, I think a .330 BA is an extreme underestimate for the underlying probability of a hit. Maybe the last two weeks have been a fluke for me (I just started 17 games ago), but if you play your matchups right, there always seems to be a top-of-the-order hitter who is visiting a team that is throwing a sub-par pitcher.

Thus, I picked Mike Sweeney yesterday and today, for example. He's not going to walk much, and he's hitting 3rd. Not ideal, but not bad. I've relied heavily on Ichiro lately, as well. Got one game from Rollins in COL, etc.

I agree that it will be hard to get to 34 games, which is what you need to do to win prize money. I doubt I will make it that far.

But the game is free, and the prize is worth $150 for getting that far. You can't expect it to be TOO easy . . .

103

Donkey Hunter
Sustainer
ID: 55220159
Wed, May 08, 2002, 20:45

butt

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Madman
ID: 21020124
Fri, May 10, 2002, 01:20

Slim pickings for tomorrow. Anyone have any good ideas? I've tentatively got Ichiro going again. But I'm getting nervous that he's due for a bad one . . .

Also, I always get a bit worried picking over the weekend, since managers sometimes get funky and rest people.

Is Damon a good bet to bounce back after his hitless wonder today? Nomar got a rest, right? Dunno. Figured I'd pose the question while I did a b.u.t.t.

105

Madman
ID: 21020124
Fri, May 10, 2002, 01:33

Changing my mind. I was thinking Vidro, but check him out against Livian.

Ended up with Jeter. I had him for my second-ever game, and he went hitless. Here's hoping his 12/26 (or whatever it is) against Milton isn't a fluke. And/or that his 3 hits yesterday was a sign that he's in a groove. Still taking other ideas. This game (Friday) would theoretically be #20 for me if I can get lucky! Put a gurupie on the world-wide leaderboard (assuming there isn't one there already. For all I know, a Gurupie is leading the thing) . . .

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RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 1924582
Fri, May 10, 2002, 01:47

I have Lofton vs Schoeneweis. Lofton is hitting .375 against him (6 for 16, so its not a large sample).

Schoeneweis vs ChiSox (thanks for the link blue hen, almighty)

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Whitey
Sustainer
ID: 47130129
Fri, May 10, 2002, 10:01

Madman, I checked out Vidro's numbers against Livan and I can see how that would change your mind.

While I was there, I noticed that Vlad the Impaler is 8/20 against Livan and since he loves hitting in Montreal in night games I went with Vlad tonight.

I just signed up so this is my first pick. I hope I get off to a good start. Jeter is a good-looking pick also..good luck

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Whitey
Sustainer
ID: 47130129
Fri, May 10, 2002, 10:06

Speaking of home/away splits...Lofton has a pretty large discrepancy between his home and away stats. I believe he is hitting .440 at home and .240 away. That doesn't mean he will crap the bed tonight, but it's just something to consider.

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RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 211013916
Fri, May 10, 2002, 10:17

Well, if I'm going to lose my streak, it will be tonight. I have a pattern going. My Last 21 Games:

5 game streak
forget to pick 2 games
6 game streak
1 incorrect pick
7 game streak (current)

So if I keep this up sometime in 2006 or so, I whould have a 34 game streak. Its just a matter of time. Bring it on.

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JeffG
Sustainer
ID: 40451227
Fri, May 10, 2002, 10:21

Did you guys notice that the person who had a 25-game streak in the standings (cott83) had Nomar last night, who was given a day off and did not play yesterday. Tough break. Nomar keeps his 15 game streak alive, but cott83 is back to zero.

I have not bettered my 8 game streak yet, although I had two that reached 7, both broken by Devil Ray pitching (Jacques Jones 4/29, Jeter 5/8).

I have Lofton tonight.

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Khahan
ID: 12432113
Fri, May 10, 2002, 11:23

I'm done with Nomar. He's killed 2 streaks of 7 or more games for me and stopped 1 other streak from getting started. I'm 0 for 3 picking him.

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Madman
ID: 3233813
Fri, May 10, 2002, 12:47

Stuck with Jeter. I had actually considered Lofton, but he just made me nervous. I do like Vlad some today. Maybe should have gone with him. Dunno.

The fact that players sometimes sit, and that you have to pick well before lineups are announced, means that it is very easy to get caught like that. The Nomar break would be bad. He's been slumping some, anyway, however, and I wouldn't have picked him. Early in my current streak I survived a Nomar game (iirc, he was 1/5), but I'm staying away until he gets hot.

Ironically, however, I picked Jeter today who was 2/17 going into last night. Ugh. This game can be nerve racking when you get your streak built up a bit!

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Madman
ID: 21020124
Fri, May 10, 2002, 22:00

BTW, just saw on the MLB front page for this game that only 2 fans had 31 game hit streaks last year. Not sure how many tried. FYI. This game is not for the faint of heart!

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Madman
ID: 114331112
Sat, May 11, 2002, 13:03

Dang. Should have picked Vlad last night. I'm
not on the leaderboard because of tie-breaks.
Doh!

If Jeter gets a hit again today, however, that
will become a moot issue. Decided to ride a
hot hand against a relatively weak pitcher.

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Madman
ID: 21020124
Sat, May 11, 2002, 22:11

Advice -- don't pick any Cleveland or KC players for tomorrow, either, without checking the weather. Looks like Sundays game might be rained out, as well, from my perspective.

With Pedro pitching against Seattle, Ichiro is out. Vlad is hot and would be a reasonable pickup. Lots of decent pitchers out there -- no matchups are screaming at me.

Right now, I'm tentatively going to try to ride Jeter one more day, I think.

BTW, notice that gbpacker55 has a LIVE 29 game hit streak going into tomorrow. Pointmade also has a 26 gamer. Impressive.

Don't forget that there is a month-long championship. I'd bet that as long as you can get a 20 gamer going, you have a chance to win the monthly championship. Not a great chance, but a chance nevertheless. The longest live streak this month is 11, obviously. So if you have a short streak alive right now, you still are in it for this month's contest.

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Whitey
Sustainer
ID: 47130129
Mon, May 13, 2002, 10:11

I hit with Vlad on Friday and Saturday and went with Andruw Jones yesterday.

Today is a really rough day for picking. I think I am just going to go with Helton at home against Olsen.

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Madman
ID: 3233813
Mon, May 13, 2002, 11:20

Whitey Yeah, I agree about today. Monday's are always tough.

I was thinking of picking a Florida hitter for the same reason you picked Helton. But their top 3 are totally uncertain. Not even sure WHO is going to hit in the top 3 spots today.

Colorado, on the other hand, is facing Penny. Ugh. I'd normally recommend Uribe or Pierre in that case, but they went a combined 0-11 yesterday and are facing a quality pitcher today.

Thus, your Helton pick is reasonable I think.

Personally, I'm pushing the envelope and going with Rollins at Houston. Redding gives up more than a hit per inning, and the Homerdome down there will hopefully give Rollins 5 AB's. Given that he was 0-4 yesterday (I think), I'm betting he won't go 0-9.

Just crossing my fingers that he doesn't get the day off . . .

BTW, I'm "madman999" on the leaderboard, FWIW. 22 games and counting if Rollins plays and gets a hit. Guess I have my "one" streak for the season; played 24 games and my season is already over! :) Reference to Stuck in the Sixties post 95.

BTW, do not underestimate the importance of picking the visiting team. Rollins was due up in the bottom of the 9th yesterday, and someone on the leaderboard had him. If Arizona would have scored 2 in the top of the 9th to tie, Rollins would have had a chance to get a hit in the bottom of the inning. As it was, however, he only got 4 AB's. FYI. Whenever possible, pick top of the order visiting players at a park that is immune to rainouts and who has a lousy or mediocre pitcher going. Having a bad bullpen is a plus.

It's better to pick a .300 hitter under those circumstances than a .370 hitter in bad circumstances.

With all that said, sometimes you have to play the matchups. And today just doesn't have many quality matchups. So picking a .370 hitter like Helton who is hot makes some sense. Like with all difficult games, you have to get a sense for when you break the rules and when you obey them. Personally, I'm too scared, and thus I'm going with my rulebook and picking Rollins.

Makes me VERY, VERY nervous, to tell you the truth. Compared to last Friday when I picked Jeter against Milton. I didn't even read the boxscores until half-way through that game since I was so confident. 12/26 lifetime, on the road, in a dome with a Jeter tends to do that for you :)

Incidentally, it is because there are games that are **almost** locks occassionally (like the Jeter game on Friday), I think this game is possible. If I really believed every single game was a random draw with an 80% chance of success, I wouldn't be playing.

The trick is to find those rare games each day that are almost locks.

Unfortunately, today, I don't see any. Going to be a nail-biter.

P.S. Can't believe Ichiro got 2 hits yesterday. That guy is on fire. Makes picking this next week easier . . . too bad SEA isn't playing.

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Madman
ID: 3233813
Mon, May 13, 2002, 11:23

BTW, I should note that I was reasonably nervous Saturday and Sunday picking Jeter, as well. Those were blind "rule-book" picks, although I believed (correctly as it turned out) that his slump was over and that he was turning it up a notch.

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Whitey
Sustainer
ID: 47130129
Mon, May 13, 2002, 11:29

I agree about your reason for leaning towards visiting teams in good weather/dome stadiums. The counter point to that is that players generally hit better at home. There are the exceptions, but when I look at splits for most hitters it seems that they fare better at home.

Good luck with Rollins tonight..I will be rooting for ya. By the way, tomorrow doesn't seem much better as far as quality matchups.

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Whitey
Sustainer
ID: 47130129
Mon, May 13, 2002, 11:35

Regarding home/away splits...for example Rollins tends to hit much better at home but he also has had better success at night vs. day:

OBP SLG AVG
----------------------
Home .427 .571 .363
Away .303 .387 .258
Day .309 .360 .260
Night.412 .563 .350

Actually, Rollins is unbelievably better at home, but Astros Stadium will boost his road numbers being such a hitters park.

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silver-n-black
Donor
ID: 297382911
Mon, May 13, 2002, 11:49

I haven't been looking too closely at potential rain-outs. According to the rules quoted by JeffG in posts 13 and 14, rain-outs don't count.

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Madman
ID: 3233813
Mon, May 13, 2002, 12:23

silver-n-black: Good point. I missed that in the rules:

Scoring in MLB.com Beat The Streak is simple. Your score is measured by the number of consecutive days the player(s) you select are credited with a hit during the 2002 MLB regular season.

If you select a player who does not get a hit during a day for which you selected him, your streak ends and you are free to start again from zero.

If a player you select does not play during the day for which you selected him for any reason, your streak will end and you are free to start again from zero.

Your streak will remain intact in the event of a cancelled or postponed game.

In the event that a player you select plays in a double-header, your streak will continue as long as the player gets at least one hit in either of the two games.

Still not a good idea to pick hitters in places where rain might happen, since the game could be shortened. But it's not the death-knell I had thought it was. So scratch that bit.

Whitey Hmmm. Honestly, I hadn't thought of the road/home split factor. Have to think about that one some more. I was kind of operating under the assumption that there isn't a fundamental difference between the ability to get a hit on the road and at home -- whatever split difference there is is solely because of the ballpark.

However, at the same time I did that, I was thinking of Rollins as a reasonably solid hitter. Which could be an incorrect assumption if Veteran's Stadium is artificially inflating his stats. . .

FWIW, his career splits are much closer . . . .293 to .278 I think, home v. away.

He's not the greatest pick, I admit that. Probably a good chance of my streak ending today.

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Madman
ID: 3233813
Mon, May 13, 2002, 13:13

gbpacker55 went with Jacque Jones today. Gotta root against him. The other two people ahead of me with active streaks went with Jeff Kent and Cliff Floyd. I have to admit to thinking about Floyd. Didn't think at all about Jones or Kent.

Furthermore, NomarChrisCH (22) and magnumco (21) and supersluggingdude (21) went with Helton.

elamdebbie (21) went with Bonds. HUH??? Going to get 2 Ab's total if he's lucky given all the walks. Can't believe you can get to 21 with picks like this. jaykammerer (21) went with slamming Sammy.

cpa68 did go for Rollins along with me, so I don't feel totally stupid. But his streak just got broken the other day . . .

For as few games as there are today, there are no consensus picks.

Pretty wild! Definitely not rooting for Bonds, Sammy, Jones, Floyd, or Kent today.

And if you hadn't picked Helton, Whitey, I'd be rooting against him, too :).

Going to be an interesting night.

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silver-n-black
Donor
ID: 297382911
Mon, May 13, 2002, 13:17

As far as today goes, I wound up going with Lo Duca. I know catchers are an iffy pick but it looks like he had his day off yesterday. Plus he's lifetime .500 (8 for 16) vs. Estes, who's been stinking it up lately.

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Madman
ID: 21020124
Mon, May 13, 2002, 22:41

Dang. Well, my streak is over at 22 barring a miracle comeback by Philly in the 9th. Rollins 0-4. Back to the drawing board!

Hope you guys fare better. Helton should get at least 1 more chance, probably 2. LoDuca obviously has more AB's coming.

At least I can say my pick PLAYED today. gbpacker's gotta feel like a moron by picking Jaque Jones today.

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ChicagoTRS
Sustainer
ID: 58735170
Mon, May 13, 2002, 23:04

Madman...Congrats on 22 games...that is great streak.

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Huskiez
ID: 41220315
Mon, May 13, 2002, 23:13

Overall leader of 30 has his streak broken as Jacque Jones did not play. The other top two leaders had Floyd and Kent; I had Floyd and he got injured in the 5th without a hit, and Kent might not get a hit also.. lot of streaks stopping tonight.

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Donkey Hunter
Sustainer
ID: 55220159
Tue, May 14, 2002, 01:35

David Bell extends my streak to 2 games with a single in the 10th inning. Why did I have David Bell going? Disgruntled after losing a decent streak the other day.

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RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 211013916
Tue, May 14, 2002, 01:38

Lets take a 2nd stab at this...

Here is something to try and make looking up specific "Pitcher vs Team" matchups (so you can look at the daily starting pitchers). This will open the ESPN Pitcher vs. Batter Pages.

PITCHER	AGAINST

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Whitey
Sustainer
ID: 47130129
Wed, May 15, 2002, 09:17

Jim Edmonds anyone?? Also looking at Jeter tonight.

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Madman
ID: 3233813
Wed, May 15, 2002, 09:43

ChicagoTRS -- thanks. It was fun while it lasted.
-----------
I am suddenly snake-bitten. I caused Ichiro to go hitless last night. Sorry, folks.

Believe it or not, I'm going with a gut pick tonight. Since I have no streak, I'm going with Chuck Knoblauch. He's been seeing the ball extremely well lately, and I think he's really turning his slump around. If I had a streak active, I wouldn't do it. But, what the heck? Worst that happens is that I fail to start my next streak. :)

RSF -- cooooooool.... :)

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Whitey
Sustainer
ID: 47130129
Wed, May 15, 2002, 09:53

That truly is a gut pick Madman. I also agree that it is much easier (and more fun) to make gut picks when just starting a streak.

After I got my 3-game streak broken by Helton I didn't make a selection yesterday. Went with Edmonds today.

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JeffG
Sustainer
ID: 40451227
Wed, May 15, 2002, 09:58

Fantastic tool RSF!

Thanks SOOOO much.

I'm going with Jeter tonight, Chipper Jones tomorrow. I'll probably do a week worth's of prelim picking tonight with the help of that tool.

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Whitey
Sustainer
ID: 47130129
Thu, May 16, 2002, 10:56

Hey Madman, Knobby came through for you. Edmonds came through for me.

Tonight it's Frank Thomas for me.

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JeffG
Sustainer
ID: 40451227
Thu, May 16, 2002, 11:19

Everybody remember to pick a Royal or Indian on Saturday 5/18. They have a doubleheader.

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silver-n-black
Donor
ID: 297382911
Thu, May 16, 2002, 12:59

I'm thinking Sweeney for Saturday, .625 vs. Nagy, not that great against Drese, but he should get something.

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silver-n-black
Donor
ID: 297382911
Thu, May 16, 2002, 16:38

Chipper already with a hit today, puts my streak at 8.

139

DMAN
ID: 400523017
Thu, May 16, 2002, 21:58

Streaks of 24 and 23 broken for 2 unlucky souls tonight.

140

RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 211013916
Thu, May 16, 2002, 22:11

My 1 game streak is Nomar, err no more, thanks to Nomar.

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Whitey
Sustainer
ID: 47130129
Fri, May 17, 2002, 13:04

Ah jeez....I forgot to put my pick in today. I just started last Friday and I just broke my second three game streak by not putting my pick in on time.

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silver-n-black
Donor
ID: 297382911
Fri, May 17, 2002, 16:48

Has anyone started to look ahead to Monday. As usual, it's a tough day for picking. Five games, no match-ups that really jump out at you. Not a lot of batters vs. pitchers with long histories.
May wait 'til Monday morning to see if the pitching probables change.

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silver-n-black
Donor
ID: 424241718
Sat, May 18, 2002, 11:00

So...Nagy's not starting today, might have to reconsider my Sweeney pick. KC is throwing two lefties out there, and Vizquel is hitting .400 against lefties. But, then again, if I make a switch, Sweeney will probably go 5 for 9 or something.
Trying to extend to 10 games.
Hour to go...

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Madman
ID: 21020124
Sat, May 18, 2002, 13:19

I had Sweeney locked a long time ago. He's going to play two games of a double-header. If he doesn't get a hit, something is terribly, terribly wrong in the world.

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silver-n-black
Donor
ID: 424241718
Sat, May 18, 2002, 14:23

Yeah, I stuck with him. The only reason I waivered was because Nagy wasn't pitching as originally scheduled according to ESPN's probables.

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RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 42121814
Fri, May 24, 2002, 11:48

BUTTafuco

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JeffG
Sustainer
ID: 40451227
Mon, Oct 28, 2002, 13:41

Played the post season version of beat the streak. I ended up coming in second place with a 17-game streak. final standings My streak started from the beginning of the post season and ended when Darin Erstad went 0-4 in game 4 of the World Series. I played all regular season and my best streak was 11.

I took second over two others by virtue of the first tie breaker by having more hits (28) over the course of my streak than the two others(thanks Derek Jeter!). Second prize is $250 in credit at the MLB.com merchandice website. The winner 'halfwrench' had a 21-game streak, which means he/she was correct every day this post season. Halfwrench gets 2 tickets to one game of the 2003 World Series.

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ChicagoTRS
Sustainer
ID: 58735170
Mon, Oct 28, 2002, 17:30

Congrats...$250 at MLB.com will be fun to spend...

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RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 211013916
Mon, Oct 28, 2002, 21:44

Congrats JeffG!

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