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Subject: RIBC - Regular Season Discussion #4


  Posted by: Guru - [330592710] Thu, Jul 15, 2004, 11:30

Might as well use the ASB as a breakpoint for the next discussion thread.

I finally have all of my horses healthy. Now we'll have to see whether they can pull this wreckage of a carriage out of the muck.
 
1blue hen
      ID: 372102211
      Thu, Jul 15, 2004, 11:34
Dammit. I had a pretty firm hold on 12th place...
 
2Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Thu, Jul 15, 2004, 11:55
Guru, I can only hope that Pete can find some muck up there to get stuck in, wherever he is up there. Either that or I can find me a thoroughbred to lead my team. Heck he's so far out in front, may need both!
 
3darkside
      Dude
      ID: 3590317
      Thu, Jul 15, 2004, 12:03
I honestly don't see how anyone can catch him. His team is so evenly built that it'll be tough. A few injuries to him, a breakout second half by a lot of someone elses guys, maybe. But, it'll be tough. It's wide open in between though. Very tight. Best of luck to everyone!
 
4blue hen
      ID: 353412123
      Sun, Jul 18, 2004, 23:32
Look out! Clemens, Robertson, and Olly today, all with solid starts. Honestly, my pitching is pretty solid (at least my starters) but I seem to have a bunch of holes in the offense.

Stupid Mariners - Olerud was NOT the weakness.
 
5smartone @work
      ID: 10558714
      Mon, Jul 19, 2004, 15:22
looking for 2 Uber-STUD SPs (from 2 different teams)... only Ortiz is not available (unless I get a solid CI as part of multi-player deal)... be creative!

 
6Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, Jul 20, 2004, 12:02
I couldn't understand why my lineup has seemed to be messed up the last few days. Well, I just saw the transactions and I figured it out. Somehow, when I picked up Bukvich for a trial run, it had be dropping Jerry Hairston instead of Scott Hairston. I don't know how or why it did it that way. It has never happened before. I don't know if the mouse scrolled or what happened. Definitely did not intend to do that as I held Hairston the entire year through his injuries and he had been really helping me lately. Scott Hairston is one of the top prospects that I was hoping would continue his hot streak but has been on my bench as I've had no room to play him with my top MI. This stinks. Oh well, Bukvich better turn into a saves God quickly!!!
 
7darkside
      Dude
      ID: 3590317
      Tue, Jul 20, 2004, 12:16
Well, that certainly explains a lot, Ref. I couldn't believe it when I saw you dropped him (knowing you'd held him), espeically given that he's been playing as well as you can hope from a MI. I was just as surprised this morning when I saw that he'd not been claimed off waivers, so I grabbed him. Sorry your mistake turned into my good fortune....that's not the way I want to improve, but I guess I'll take it.
 
8Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, Jul 20, 2004, 13:21
Yeah that really smarts. I've decided that I'm going to try and make a run for Pete. The smart thing to do would be to play for 2nd, but that's not me. I may end up falling in the standings, but no guts no glory! Just hate losing Hairston, Jr. We shall see what deals I can swing to make some huge swings in the stat cats I am low in.
 
9Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Jul 20, 2004, 16:52
Now the Eric Chavez has returned, Hallady is out for 4-6 weeks. Of course, even when he was active, he wasn't helping at all. Of all my draft picks, he might have turned out to be the worst, as a #1 pick.
 
10Trip
      Donor
      ID: 13961611
      Wed, Jul 21, 2004, 11:16
I went up 6.5 in WHIP standings yesterday. With my 1 step forward 2 steps back strategy going, I am in for a record poor performance today.
 
11smartone @work
      ID: 10558714
      Wed, Jul 21, 2004, 11:20
thanks to Washburn and Pineiro, I lost 8.5 RIBC points IN ONE DAY
 
12Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Wed, Jul 21, 2004, 11:50
I've got some good pitchers I'm willing to move for a slugger or two.
 
13Species
      Leader
      ID: 7724916
      Wed, Jul 21, 2004, 13:01
EIGHT teams are bunched together from 1.34 - 1.36 WHIP. Incredible.
 
14darkside
      Dude
      ID: 3590317
      Wed, Jul 21, 2004, 17:08
Linebrink should help you in that category. Nice pickup. SB's is another tight one. It's amazing how much ground you can lose in one fell swoop, as evidenced by smartone and his era debacle yesterday (my condolences, smartone).
 
15smartone
      ID: 313039
      Wed, Jul 21, 2004, 18:17
thanks, darkside... it's both ERA and WHIP... my pain---everybody's gain... ;-)
 
16Species
      Leader
      ID: 7724916
      Wed, Jul 21, 2004, 18:22
darkside - eliminating Matt Herges from my active lineup for a while (who needs saves? I don't need no stinkin' saves) will have an even greater effect than Linebrink - but yes that was precisely the reason I picked him up.

Teixeira has been a monster! Marcus Giles is back (thank you! thank you!) and Toby Hall is at least not a total black hole/detriment at C. Hopefully I can continue the offensive surge while finding some stability in my ERA and WHIP.
 
17Peter N.
      Donor
      ID: 257161713
      Wed, Jul 21, 2004, 18:51
I really have no complaints about my team right now. This team has given me an enormous amount of pride with it's position in the standings even after losing Sexson for the year. However, there is still plenty of time and I'm expecting one of those teams 2-9 to emerge from that pack and make a run to me at the top. All I can and will do is continue to make daily lineup changes and play the matchups. The season can't end soon enough! ;-)
 
18Species
      Leader
      ID: 7724916
      Wed, Jul 21, 2004, 19:21
Actually Peter I want to congratulate you NOW on your runaway victory in the RIBC.

.....that ought to be the kiss of death, whereas 5 crippling injuries and the ghosts of Matt Herges, Billy Koch and Jose Jimenez all invade your pitching staff's consciousness! lmao
 
19blue hen
      ID: 353412123
      Wed, Jul 21, 2004, 20:39
I feel ya smartone - Pineiro killed me in another league. A shallow league too, which is almost worse, since I shouldn't have had him to begin with.

For a time, all seven of my teams were about where my RIBC team is. But fortunately, two have climbed into first place, and one (in a 20 teamer) is all the way up to 3rd. You know what they say about the cream...

I'm off on a mini-baseball-tour this weekend, where I'll see games in Philly, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, and Cleveland between now and Sunday. I probably won't be online much, but hopefully when I get back, I'll be in 7th or 8th place...
 
20Peter N.
      Donor
      ID: 257161713
      Wed, Jul 21, 2004, 20:43
LOL, c'mon Greg..........you were asking for it drafting Herges and Koch and then having the cajones to pick up Jimenez off the wire. ;-) Seriously, be glad that none of your injuries have been season-enders(those are crippling)........and Sexson was on such a tear when he went down. Oh, BTW, nice pick up of Morneau. I somehow missed him being available for over a month!
 
21Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Fri, Jul 23, 2004, 11:01
I know it's just by coincidence, but since I accidently dropped JERRY Hairston, Jr., my team has dropped from 2nd to 7th in the standings. :(

I might as well get any idea of making a run at Pete out of my head right now as I can't even tread water, let alone make a surge. I really got to give credit to the people who've passed me, but just know that I'm not done yet!
 
22smartone @work
      ID: 10558714
      Tue, Jul 27, 2004, 15:08
I am curious why do you guys think that the RIBC has so few trades whereas the G20 league is so active, assuming that the profile of the managers is pretty much similar while both leagues are very deep (I think that the G20 is even deeper).

My assumption for the lack of RIBC trades is that the RIBC bench is very short (how many players are actually on the G20 bench?), so it is harder(?) for us to have replacements(?) -- but I am not really sure if this is the main reason

BTW, are there many trades in the RIBC qualifying leagues?
 
23I_AM_CANADIAN
      ID: 36462417
      Tue, Jul 27, 2004, 15:29
RE: Smartone

RQL3 has 17 completed Trades to date, with 2 Veto's. (One was a rejection by a majority in the league, and one because a Manager "accidentally" pressed the accept trade button).

At the begining of the season, there were mainly 1 for 1 deals. But recently, we've seen a lot of multiple player deals.
 
24StLCards
      Leader
      ID: 31010716
      Tue, Jul 27, 2004, 15:31
I think I can partly answer that. One reason for the larger number of trades in G20 is that it is a keeper league and trades include draft choices. Teams rebuilding and others trying to win it all.

RQL has had I think 2 or 3 trades. Some of the other qualifying leagues have had some trades but I don't know how many. It is much harder to trade in a non keeper league, IMO.
 
25StLCards
      Leader
      ID: 31010716
      Tue, Jul 27, 2004, 15:32
D'Oh! I guess the RQL 3 league proves me wrong!
 
27I_AM_CANADIAN
      ID: 36462417
      Tue, Jul 27, 2004, 16:06
Also, I forgot to stipulate... Those 17 Trades, where regular season trades. There were also, several trades that were worked out during the Draft.

Besides this... the WA/FA wire has been worked quite hard. Six managers have an excess of 25+ moves to date in the season.

I personally would like to see a deeper bench. I remember at one point in the season, a manager had 7 players on the DL.
 
28Tosh
      Sustainer
      ID: 57721710
      Tue, Jul 27, 2004, 16:26
My starting rotation of Sheets, Penny, Buehrle, Lawrence, and occassionally Millwood has certainly jumped the shark recently. My team is free-falling, as I continue to lose points in the 'wins' category.
 
29blue hen
      ID: 372102211
      Tue, Jul 27, 2004, 16:29
I have a lot of moves in RIBC, but most are of the pitcher-rotating variety. I've really only made a couple major pickups (Freel? Major?) and one trade - Figgins.
 
30darkside
      Dude
      ID: 3590317
      Tue, Jul 27, 2004, 16:43
I'm second in moves (I think) behind hen. None are rotating. Mainly just trying to find good players. Many times my patience is thin and I give up too easily. Currently on my team off the wire are: Hairston Jr, Eckstein, Rowand, Catalanotto, David Wright, J. Werth, Kip Wells and El Duque. Have moved between lots of MR mainly for the ratio categories. I haven't been able to trade because of the perception of value of players...I value mine too much and others too little, it seems.
 
31loki
      Dude
      ID: 4211201420
      Tue, Jul 27, 2004, 17:58
In RQL2 there have been nine completed trades thus far. Most of the offers that I have received and some that I have made have been inequitable and therefore not concluded. However it seems that most managers are hesitant to pull the trigger even with legitimate offers. My one trade was Pineiro for Womack which worked out well for both parties until Pineiro was injured. However the W/FA wire has been quite active with 331 transactions made so far(excluding trades). The range is 1 to 52 trades per manager with the average being 20.7 per manager.
 
32I_AM_CANADIAN
      ID: 36462417
      Tue, Jul 27, 2004, 18:22
RQL3 is very similar in moves made to RQL2.

340 Moves Made (including trades). Raging from 4-65. AVG 21.25/manager.
 
33Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, Jul 27, 2004, 18:31
Short bench and CI/MI means that with injuries, it's hard to trade away cats that you have too much of when it may take away the position you need. Still, I think the trading will pick up in RIBC.
 
34StLCards
      Leader
      ID: 31010716
      Tue, Jul 27, 2004, 18:48
Went back and looked and RQL has had 4 trades and 397 moves.
 
35Trip
      ID: 14417218
      Tue, Jul 27, 2004, 19:12
457 moves made in RIBC. 210 by four managers.

Caper, how have you made only 3 moves?
 
36Trip
      ID: 14417218
      Tue, Jul 27, 2004, 19:13
Rank Team Points Pts Change Waiver Moves 
 1 Peter N. 126.5 0.5 5 20 
 2 jumpball RGIBC 103.5 1 2
 3 darkside of the moon 94.5 1 15 53 
 4 Ref 92.5 1.5 8 33 
 5 KrazyKoalaBalkers 89.5 5 6 23 
 5 Caper's Royals 89.5 0 4
 5 slackjawed yokel 89.5 -0.5 14 23 
 8 Bmd's Saboteurs 89 -2.5 9 27 
 9 Macabee Tel-Aviv 86 2.5 16 45 
 10 Tosh 85 0.5 10 17 
 11 Species 80.5 0 13 20 
 12 J 76 2 7 20 
 13 Day Trippers 70.5 -2 11 50 
 14 ESPheN.com 68 -6.5 3 62 
 15 RotoGuru.com 60 -2 1 22 
 16 MITHs Malcontents 59.5 -0.5 12 34
 
37Trip
      ID: 14417218
      Tue, Jul 27, 2004, 19:14
Just don't ask me how I've made 50.
 
38Caper
      Donor
      ID: 1535108
      Wed, Jul 28, 2004, 07:23
I really have to admit that I have not had as much time as I would like to watch this team. My initial draft was not bad and I have been able to hang around a little. I will have to really look at my pitching if I want to contend before the end. My relievers have failed and I did not expect Chipper to hang around the Mendoza line all season.
 
39beastiemiked
      Sustainer
      ID: 3531815
      Wed, Jul 28, 2004, 09:04
You know you are in a competitive league when you can jump 5 spots in one night in late July.
 
40darkside
      Dude
      ID: 3590317
      Wed, Jul 28, 2004, 09:23
And drop 3....

One off night and you plummet. One good night and you shoot to the top (well, to the reachable top, Peter N has this thing almost wrapped up). It's amazing how tight 3-7 is (and 8-11 isn't far behind). I love the competition!
 
41beastiemiked
      Sustainer
      ID: 3531815
      Wed, Jul 28, 2004, 09:25
Well considering I shot from 8->3, I'd say 8-11 isn't far behind.

I'm going with some FA pitchers today. Could backfire but I really need some cheap wins.
 
42smartone @work
      ID: 10558714
      Wed, Jul 28, 2004, 10:20
I am going to move Pineiro today... if anyone is interested in saving a Waiver priority and get him -- please send me an offer. I will likely not refuse to get a RP, and a mid-level SP could also work.

It's amazing, but my current SP Ace is Weaver... oh, well... :-(


 
43beastiemiked
      ID: 262411016
      Wed, Jul 28, 2004, 21:53
Hendrickson + Seo = 13ip 6 er 9 hits 3 BB's 6 k's 1 Win


Not too bad. I'll probably hang onto Hendrickson after his complete game gem. Seo will hit the WW asap.
 
44blue hen
      ID: 372102211
      Thu, Jul 29, 2004, 16:36
I seriously need some hitting. Anyone interested in Clemens?
 
45Trip
      Donor
      ID: 13961611
      Mon, Aug 02, 2004, 11:17
Guru: What is up with the RIBC Stats and Roster Summary page? Yesterday's results aren't valid. I checked on Saturday as well and it looks like the same problem was occurring then. Thanks.
 
46Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Mon, Aug 02, 2004, 16:42
I fell from 2nd to 9th in like a week. Back up to 8th, but my moves have all backfired. Like I said, no guts, no glory. At least I had guts! ;)
 
47blue hen
      ID: 372102211
      Mon, Aug 02, 2004, 17:52
I'm now up to 16/20/19/19/19 in pitching in my 20-team league. THAT is a team that needs some hitting.
 
48beastiemiked
      ID: 262411016
      Mon, Aug 02, 2004, 20:11
bh, I sent a trade your way.
 
49Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Aug 02, 2004, 22:07
I just reran today's (thru 8/1) standings page, and yesterday's results look OK now. I did notice some odd things happening at Yahoo this morning, something must have befuddled the processing.

 
50blue hen
      ID: 372102211
      Tue, Aug 03, 2004, 16:44
BMD, thanks for the offer (and not offering someone like Travis Hafner or Bucky Jacobsen) but that's well short of what I'm looking to get for Clemens.
 
51beastiemiked
      Sustainer
      ID: 3531815
      Tue, Aug 03, 2004, 16:57
Was the deal you saw with 2 hitters for Clemens or a hitter and a pitcher for him?
 
52blue hen
      ID: 372102211
      Tue, Aug 03, 2004, 17:18
Hitter and a pitcher. We all know I have a soft spot for that particular hitter, but it's not going to fly here. Do you have an offer with two (legitimate) hitters?

I think I'll take J's offer instead. He offered someone named "David".
 
53J
      Leader
      ID: 49346417
      Tue, Aug 03, 2004, 18:26
you accidentally rejected it???
 
54blue hen
      ID: 372102211
      Tue, Aug 03, 2004, 18:31
Aww crap. Maybe I can get Riske off the waiver wire in a couple weeks.
 
55blue hen
      ID: 372102211
      Fri, Aug 06, 2004, 11:48
Aww crap. A decent night last night, but I'm still WAYYYY the hell down there in the standings.
 
56Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Fri, Aug 06, 2004, 12:10
I've fallen and I can't get up. 2nd to 10th now. What I said I might fall some because of this chance I was taking to catch Pete, I didn't realize how far I could fall. Oh well.
 
57KrazyKoalaBears
      Leader
      ID: 517553018
      Fri, Aug 06, 2004, 13:17
The fight for 8th place is going to be tough in this league. I've gone up and down like a yo yo because all the stats we're all fighting for are so close together.
 
58Species
      Leader
      ID: 7724916
      Fri, Aug 06, 2004, 13:59
I was just going to mention that KKB. This snowball team of mine might actually have a chance in hell of limping into the top 8. I have some reachable points in OBP, SLG and WHIP particularly, and many of my guys have been pretty hot. Morneau was a solid pickup days before his call up (finally I get one right) and JT Snow loves hitting in front of Barry (i.e. the Marquis Grissom effect) and Dunn and others have stepped up.

My relievers are driving some ratios down while the starters don't hurt those same ratios. I'm poop-screwed in saves, but oh well that was the risk I took. If I can make the right waiver/plug in moves I might just sneak in for next year.
 
59beastiemiked
      ID: 262411016
      Mon, Aug 09, 2004, 22:19
Hey bh, just for fun, would you have accepted a Larry Walker and Pat Burrell for Clemens last week?
 
60blue hen
      ID: 372102211
      Tue, Aug 10, 2004, 12:49
Haha - maybe. But not really because Walker leaving Coors scares me and I hate having Phillies because it's double bad when they suck. Of course, it's better than being on the DL.
 
61J
      Leader
      ID: 049346417
      Tue, Aug 10, 2004, 16:06
dumbass, you wouldn't have known that he was leaving coors last week is what he's getting at.
 
62blue hen
      ID: 372102211
      Tue, Aug 10, 2004, 16:48
Fine. Then his injury history scares me. I've been assuming he would leave Coors since about 2002.
 
63smartone @work
      ID: 10558714
      Thu, Aug 12, 2004, 11:09
I will be on vacation between Aug. 15-22 and I doubt if I'll manage to get Internet connection during next week. Therefore, if anyone has been thinking about offering me a trade - please do so now.

Most of my team is tradeable (except Mr. Bonds and most likely Ortiz and Renteria) while I am looking for RBI/SLG/OBP/WHIP/ERA contributors. I can offer speed/runs (Crawford, J-Jones) as well as Saves (well, I don't have Gagne, but my closers get Saves here and there)
 
64blue hen
      ID: 372102211
      Thu, Aug 12, 2004, 15:06
I know I'm 14th of 16. I know I'm 1-1-1-2 in R, RBI, ERA, and WHIP. But I need to make myself feel better, so I'll talk about my 6 other teams, which are obviously of no importance to you.

This Is SportsCenter (AL Only ESPN) 1st of 8
EQA All-Stars (ESPN) 1st of 10
Voros McCracken (ESPN) 5th of 10
Blue Hen's Cropdusters (NL Only ESPN - Chatroom Gurupies) 2nd of 8
Quagmire is my hero (Yahoo H2H with holds and fewest batter k's) 2nd of 12
Saves R Us (Yahoo) 4th of 20

See? I'm not really that bad...
 
65J
      Leader
      ID: 49346417
      Thu, Aug 12, 2004, 18:36
Blue Hen's Cropdusters (NL Only ESPN - Chatroom Gurupies) 2nd of 8


who's beating you?
 
66blue hen
      ID: 372102211
      Thu, Aug 12, 2004, 19:06
Ok, I guess I really do suck at fantasy sports...
 
67Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Aug 12, 2004, 21:34
I just tallied up my pitching results for the season.

Here are the aggregate results for my top 8 pitching draft picks:
IP: 498
W: 29
S: 34
K: 382 (.77/IP)
ERA: 4.61
WHIP: 1.35

Of that group, Halladay is on the DL and probably won't have more than a few starts left, if any. Contreras has been OK of late. Guardado and Mantei are out for the year. Marte got aced out of the closer role by Takatsu. Valverde is still on the DL. Soriano is out for the year. Wakefield has been OK - and is still healthy, at least.

Here is the rest of my staff's totals (last 4 draftees plus F/A pickups):
IP: 379
W: 29
S: 4
K: 287 (.77/IP)
ERA: 3.96
WHIP: 1.35

Pavano and Mota have been my best two. These results also include Ponson, who was horrible while I held him.

Note to self: Next year, just draft hitters.
 
68beastiemiked
      Sustainer
      ID: 03531815
      Fri, Aug 13, 2004, 09:17
I've got a question. What happens if there is a tie in some of the average categories? It seems Yahoo only rounds to the hundredth and there a couple categories(mainly WHIP) which are tightly grouped together. Are we going to go by what Yahoo says or are we going to break the ties somehow? This is my only complaint with Yahoo, other than that they have a great free baseball game.
 
69smartone @work
      ID: 10558714
      Fri, Aug 13, 2004, 09:48
bmd, I doubt if there is a practical way to break such ties considering the roster changes and the benching of players... why bother?
 
70Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Fri, Aug 13, 2004, 10:01
Since Yahoo doesn't show the underlying numerator and denominator for ratios, there is no definitive way to break those ties. I have pretty good cumulative estimates of stats like ER, WH, AB, etc, but they are not definitive enough to use as a tiebreaker.

If there's a tie in a category, so be it.
 
71Species
      Leader
      ID: 07724916
      Fri, Aug 13, 2004, 13:39
I am interested in a good hitting outfielder who is strong in OBP/SLG and RBI. I don't need a speed guy.

Can give up a Milton or Clement level pitcher. Schilling could be had but of course the level of OF increases dramatically that I would expect in return.
 
72blue hen
      ID: 372102211
      Fri, Aug 13, 2004, 14:57
butter
 
73beastiemiked
      Sustainer
      ID: 03531815
      Fri, Aug 13, 2004, 15:03
Where did ukula's thread go? I was all set to "Mach" him.

 
74blue hen
      ID: 372102211
      Fri, Aug 13, 2004, 15:47
I thought that was CanEHdian Pride?
 
75blue hen
      ID: 353412123
      Mon, Aug 23, 2004, 00:22
Holy butt. Not much movement here or in the league. The trade deadline is upcoming and it looks like I'm keeping the rocket. And it looks like I'm staying in 14th. I tried, really I did.
 
76smartone @work
      ID: 10558714
      Thu, Aug 26, 2004, 15:12
Vidro is out for the season so I am willing to give any of my SP/RP for a good MI
 
77blue hen
      ID: 372102211
      Mon, Sep 13, 2004, 13:22
I am making my move! If only my second pick was performing better. But I can't complain. I made my bed.
 
78Peter N.
      ID: 88211823
      Tue, Sep 21, 2004, 20:46
I've been waiting for someone to make a run at me and it appears that beastiemiked is doing that. Nice job bmd!
 
79Species
      Leader
      ID: 07724916
      Wed, Sep 22, 2004, 19:54
I'll probably jinx myself, but I'm sooooooooooo happy that my team has made a great September run to requalify me for next year's RIBC. Timely pickups like Monroe and Buck (for his big 2-hr game), combined with HOT hitting from Jeter, Teixeira and Snow (all with OPS' over 1.000 in the last month) have vaulted me 10+ points in hitting since Sept. 1. My middle relievers have been just okay but at least they haven't cost me anything, and Schilling/El Duque/Maddux have been rock solid.

.....now watch me lose 10 points in the next week and fall to 9th! lol
 
80Trip
      Donor
      ID: 13961611
      Wed, Sep 22, 2004, 20:10
Hoping I could quietly move up, so I've limited my posts. I said I wasn't going to finish with only 2 points for strikeouts and managed to make my way up to nine, while improving WHIP and wins. Too bad my hitting didn't hold up...or at least stay consistent.
 
81smartone
      ID: 313039
      Thu, Sep 23, 2004, 09:30
wooow -- what a run by BMD!!! ... can he catch PeterN?... I am capped to around 113 points, so I probably lost my chances to win, as I need BOTH PeterN and BMD lose 10 or so RIBC points.
 
82beastiemiked
      Sustainer
      ID: 03531815
      Thu, Sep 23, 2004, 09:48
We're about maxed out as well, as there are only 2-3 categories where I could possibly gain points and about 5-6 categories where I'm maintaining very small leads. It's gotten a lot more interesting the past week so hopefully my team can hold it's ground and somehow sneak past Peter's team.
 
83Trip
      ID: 478261310
      Mon, Sep 27, 2004, 09:35
WOW
 
84darkside
      ID: 4218517
      Mon, Sep 27, 2004, 11:20
Seriously! Nice job, bmd. Very impressive run. I can't believe Peter N.'s stranglehold on first has been relinquished. I honestly didn't think anyone would catch him. Best of luck to the both of you.
 
85Species
      Leader
      ID: 07724916
      Mon, Sep 27, 2004, 11:23
Pretty damned impressive. Even if bmd doesn't complete the come-from-behind victory, what a huge run. Serious props, dude:

Change in Rankings from Sep 1 through Sep 26
Rank Team R RBI SB OBP SLG W SV K ERA WHIP TOTAL
1 Bmd's Saboteurs +0.5 -1 0 +1.5 0 +7 +1.5 +1 +7 +3 +20.5
 
86KrazyKoalaBears
      Leader
      ID: 517553018
      Mon, Sep 27, 2004, 13:59
+7 in W and +7 in ERA at the same time is amazing.
 
87blue hen
      ID: 372102211
      Thu, Sep 30, 2004, 12:24
I knew BMD would be up there. Good work man.

I totally didn't notice that I'd climbed to a tie for 10th. I haven't checked the team in a week or so, and I wonder if I'd be higher (or lower?) if I had.
 
88Species
      Leader
      ID: 07724916
      Thu, Sep 30, 2004, 12:32
Answer: LOWER
 
89Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Sep 30, 2004, 12:47
I've moved up to 12th in the past few days, and it looks like I could finish anywhere from 10th-15th. After being mired in 15th for most of the season, any advancement is a nice recovery.

If only I could have drafted better closers than Guardado and Mantei/Valverde. I just looked back at my Mantei rationale, and see that I wrote "The two top available closers were Mantei and Francisco Cordero, based on my rankings..." Brilliant pick of Mantei, eh?

With my Guardado pick, I said "...the other closer alternatives were Isringhausen and Rhodes. Izzy was a close second, and I’d have taken him if Eddie had disappeared."

Had I taken Isringhausen and Cordero instead, I'd have 64 more saves now. That would put me near the top in saves, with an additional 13.5 ranking points. And 13.5 points would put me in 8th place right now - assuming my ERA and WHIP would be no worse than currently. (They'd probably be much better.)

A number of injuries put me in the hole early this year, but I think those two closer picks turned out to bring about the most damage.

What a moron...
 
90darkside
      Dude
      ID: 3590317
      Thu, Sep 30, 2004, 13:49
bh - Carlos Guillen? Did you miss the memo that he had surgery 3 days ago?
 
91blue hen
      ID: 372102211
      Thu, Sep 30, 2004, 14:22
Obviously. Told ya I wasn't following. Funny Guillen doesn't have an IR next to his name.
 
92Species
      Leader
      ID: 07724916
      Thu, Sep 30, 2004, 14:57
lol! I could see bh in his lavish 1-bedroom Bristol apartment peeing his pants:

"Carlos Guillen is available! WOW! What a coup!"

;-)
 
93Trip
      Donor
      ID: 13961611
      Fri, Oct 01, 2004, 00:29
Wait until he sees this

A. Soriano (Tex - 2B) [ Add ]
 
94blue hen
      ID: 353412123
      Fri, Oct 01, 2004, 01:13
Actually, Soriano made me look it up. I figured Guillen was cold, and better than Alomar, which he probably still is.

My other major concern was that if I picked somebody up, it might affect the top of the charts, which is something I don't especially care to do.
 
95blue hen
      ID: 353412123
      Fri, Oct 01, 2004, 01:14
BH - you haven't affected anything at the top of the charts all season!
 
96darkside
      Dude
      ID: 3590317
      Fri, Oct 01, 2004, 07:42
My other major concern was that if I picked somebody up, it might affect the top of the charts, which is something I don't especially care to do.

Why the hell not? I'm doing everything in my power to get as many points as I can, regardless of who I take them away from. I could stop trying to get wins so bmd could get another point, but I won't. What if the Reds said the same thing. Not a very good approach, IMO.
 
97blue hen
      ID: 26957123
      Sat, Oct 02, 2004, 02:02
That's a fair point. But if I haven't checked my team in a week, and suddenly I pick up a guy just as one of the contenders is about to...

Heh, it doesn't matter much, I guess. I should have played better and been one of those contenders myself. That's all there is to it.
 
98Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sat, Oct 02, 2004, 09:32
...if I haven't checked my team in a week, and suddenly I pick up a guy just as one of the contenders is about to...

So what? Are you saying that it is somehow unsporting to compete with the top teams for a free agent? I'd do it in a heartbeat, especially if I thought it would help my team pick up a point in some category. The team I'd be taking that point (or player) from is irrelevant.

I understand that when the best you can hope to attain is a second division finish, attention may wane. But I can't understand why you would be reluctant to make any competitive move because it might impact the top teams. That line of thinking would not even cross my mind. Why not play the role of spoiler, if the opportunity is there?
 
99Species
      Leader
      ID: 07724916
      Sun, Oct 03, 2004, 00:58
FWIW I've forsaken rotating pitchers the last week for K's so as to not risk ERA/WHIP -- especially since my league-leading win total is unlikely to be climaxed.
 
100Slackjawed Yokel
      Leader
      ID: 052347519
      Sun, Oct 03, 2004, 01:22
hmm, about that league-leading win total...
 
101Species
      Leader
      ID: 07724916
      Mon, Oct 04, 2004, 00:16
lol........c'est la vie, SY
 
102Slackjawed Yokel
      Leader
      ID: 052347519
      Mon, Oct 04, 2004, 08:42
Congrats Pete, nice job. And nice run there at the end, bmd to add some drama to the finish.

and who would've thunk that smartone's strategy of punting two categories would've put him in the running?
 
103KrazyKoalaBears
      Leader
      ID: 517553018
      Mon, Oct 04, 2004, 08:48
"We're #8! We're #8! We're #8!"

After starting the season stuck in the 16 spot for a loooooooooooooong time, I'm quite pleased with my finish. I was definitely sweating it out watching the StatTracker all day yesterday! Major kudos to Peter N for his amazing finish and to bmd for giving him strong competition. If I had to do it all over again, I would change too many things to list. ;) For now, I'll be happy to have a chance to make those changes in next year's RIBC.

 
104darkside
      Dude
      ID: 3590317
      Mon, Oct 04, 2004, 09:16
Good work by everyone. What a fantastic league...I had a ton of fun and look forward to next year!

What happes with the tie between Ref and Caper?
 
105Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Oct 04, 2004, 09:50
The tie between Ref and Caper really doesn't matter, since they are out of the top 8.
 
106Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Mon, Oct 04, 2004, 11:12
Grats Pete! Very good show.

I may have tied for 9th, but I feel like a winner. After falling from 2nd to 14th in less than a month, moving up to 9th and a point from 8th was incredible. I don't remember a year where injuries have affected me so much. For some reason I just could not overcome them this year. I decided that if I was going to gain, it had to start with SBs and that started turning things around a couple weeks ago. If I could have managed just .001 OBP or .001 SLGP...
 
107Species
      Leader
      ID: 07724916
      Mon, Oct 04, 2004, 11:17
I'll take 6th for sure after a very poorly executed pitching "strategy". Going "cheapie" closers definitely didn't help - although it might not have been that strategy per se as much as it was the execution. Thank goodness some of my hitters turned it up the last 2 months or it would've been RIBC AAA for me next year.

Congrats to Peter N. for a dominating year - and serious props to bmd for making it interesting and actually taking the lead once.

Can't wait to tweak my strategy for next year! Crossing names like Phillips, Herges and Koch off the list should go a long way! lol
 
109darkside
      Dude
      ID: 3590317
      Mon, Oct 04, 2004, 13:01
Wow....I was working under the mistaken impression that it was the top 10, not the top 8. Apparently, rules aren't my strong point.
 
110Peter N.
      ID: 12912221
      Mon, Oct 04, 2004, 17:03
First off, I'd like to thank Guru again for the invite to this league. I am honored to be part of it.

Thanks to everyone for the kudos!

And no thanks to bmd for giving me a scare these past couple of weeks!!!! ;-) Nah, seriously, good job dude. You definitely made things interesting down the stretch.

I'm already looking forward to next year.