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Subject: RIBC 2005 - draft discussion #2

Posted by: Guru - [330592710] Wed, Mar 16, 2005, 13:00

The first draft discussion thread was getting pretty long. Time to reload.

Draft grid

Ref
ID: 172121519
Wed, Mar 16, 2005, 13:19

Hope Species can check to see that he hasn't picked soon.

Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Wed, Mar 16, 2005, 14:03

Sorry. Matt took my pick and I had to re-evaluate. That's two rounds in a row one of 2 players I wanted after 'the turn' did not make it to me. :(

PS - I'm changing my team name to "The Big IF". IF Giambi does well. IF Preston Wilson plays 130 games. IF Kerry Wood is healthy. IF.........

Ref
ID: 172121519
Wed, Mar 16, 2005, 14:07

I'm only playing in two leagues this year due to time constraints and in both leagues I've taken more risks than usual. My strategies, esp. in this league, is drastically different than last year. I sometimes question myself since so many of my picks were injured last year, but I started with this idea and am going to continue with it.

jumpball
Sustainer
ID: 33050298
Wed, Mar 16, 2005, 15:21

Holding my breath and saying a prayer to the hamstring god before I make my next pick . . .

darkside
Dude
ID: 3590317
Wed, Mar 16, 2005, 15:46

It had to happen soon...so much possible talent still on the board in Junior. This league won't be won w/o risks, so maybe it'll payoff. I certainly hope not, but you never know.
;)

holt
ID: 6227147
Wed, Mar 16, 2005, 15:55

I think griffey was due to go any time now. I briefly considered him when I took cliff floyd.

Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Mar 16, 2005, 16:15

I'm now strongly considering the idea that I have absolutely no idea what I'm doing, where I'm going, and how I plan to get there!

Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Wed, Mar 16, 2005, 16:28

ROFL.....allow me to echo Guru's sentiments in #8!!

beastiemiked
ID: 4310501610
Wed, Mar 16, 2005, 16:29

I agree, quit stockpiling the middle infielders.

Ref
ID: 172121519
Wed, Mar 16, 2005, 16:48

Who told Guru my strategy in 8?!?!

rockafellerskank
ID: 180352016
Wed, Mar 16, 2005, 17:32

I'll have my delinquent rationales and next pick posted in less than 30 mins.

rockafellerskank
ID: 180352016
Wed, Mar 16, 2005, 18:27

I'll be out from about 6P MST thru the end of the night. I'd be willing to leave a queue before I go to anyone who doesn't pick before me. Takers?

holt
ID: 6227147
Wed, Mar 16, 2005, 18:29

rfs - I'll be around .

Athletics Guy
ID: 232381615
Wed, Mar 16, 2005, 18:40

Me too

Matt S in Guatemala
ID: 32461618
Wed, Mar 16, 2005, 20:19

I am sending a queue to Khahan for my next two picks. I will be travelling to Palenque, Mexico early tomorrow morning, so likely won't have internet access until the evening, if at all.

Cheers
Matt S

Toral
ID: 22731114
Thu, Mar 17, 2005, 07:32

I'll be out for much of the day until the afternoon or early evening. I've sent Guru a queue which will take care of round 17 and might be good for round 18.

Toral

Toral
ID: 22731114
Thu, Mar 17, 2005, 08:33

Guru: 2 queue sent to you. The second one expands the round 18 queue.

Toral

holt
ID: 6227147
Thu, Mar 17, 2005, 12:38

sorry to hold this up guys - I'll make my pick shortly.

Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Thu, Mar 17, 2005, 13:15

You know, the more I read these rationales, and especially read my own after the fact, I think all of us have excellent prescriptions for rose-colored glasses! lmao I'm really stretching things sometimes with these "I hope for .850 OPS with 85 runs and 85 rbi" proclamations! Not to pick on Slack (and the point is I'm just as guilty!), but I think I realized it most when I read his Randy Winn rationale (I wanted Winn that round, btw) which stated he expected him to BOTH score and drive in 80-90 runs. If Winn drives in 80-90 I'll make a $10 donation to Guru! ;-)

holt
ID: 6227147
Thu, Mar 17, 2005, 13:18

I picked finally - khahan has matt's queue.

Chris
ID: 4708114
Thu, Mar 17, 2005, 13:18

It's funny you mention that Peter, because you've taken a number of guys(mainly hitters) that I've wanted. Seems we both have a similar strategy of drafting real young hitters, which works better when there's only one person drafting that way! ;)

Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Thu, Mar 17, 2005, 13:23

I emailed Khahan a while ago to warn him he was 1 pick away....and now have emailed to remind him Matt is up.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Mar 17, 2005, 13:28

Species, I think my rationale that this could be a bad pick was the first to say as such! I agree that many of our rationales are more hopeful than realistic. But we are eternal optimists.

Chris
ID: 4708114
Thu, Mar 17, 2005, 13:34

Well, most of us think the players we drafted are going to do well, or else we wouldn't have taken them.

Of course, we're wrong a lot of the time too, going back and reading the rationales after the season can be pretty funny at times :)

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Mar 17, 2005, 13:39

Chris, big difference in thinking they will do well and hopeful they will do well. Many times when it gets late like this, people jsut start looking at their cheat sheets and grab one of the higher remaining names. Nothing wrong with that!

beastiemiked
ID: 4310501610
Thu, Mar 17, 2005, 14:16

Is there a reason Matt doesn't give his queue to someone besides Khahan?

holt
ID: 6227147
Thu, Mar 17, 2005, 14:50

I was thinking the same thing. it would be smoother if he sent it to one or two others. I understand not wanting to send a queue within the league. you always hope some of your guys will drop a round or two so you don't to put their name out there. but I'm sure there are other gurupies around that wouldn't mind taking his queue.

Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Thu, Mar 17, 2005, 15:18

Well he's picked....on to holt, Toral and moi.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Mar 17, 2005, 15:25

It's funny. Holt has been on the clock since about the time he posted. ;)

Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Thu, Mar 17, 2005, 15:29

Leaving for lunch.....left a 1-man queue with Guru. If he's gone, tough doo-doo and I'll be back.

holt
ID: 6227147
Thu, Mar 17, 2005, 15:57

I've been trying to get my pick done but I had to research 5 different guys and my comp keeps locking up. no idea why. it's time to run spybot again and clear out some junk.

anyway - my pick is done.

darkside
Dude
ID: 3590317
Thu, Mar 17, 2005, 16:36

I'm not gonna be connected till about 9-9:30 est tonight. I'll log on then and see where things are. Just an FYI.

Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Thu, Mar 17, 2005, 18:47

Ref - I nearly selected Penny. Bluntly, I had him 2nd in my queue the previous round and thought you would take him then. It was almost a coin toss between a decent catcher and the huge upside in Penny. I guess I figured I had taken enough chances so far that I needed to get a reasonably 'safe' guy at C.

That pick could be huge if he is 100% healthy on May 1st. He's only 27, going to a good park with a great pen - huge upside there.

Toral - I'm the doofus that took Bret Boone! ;-)

FRICK
ID: 3410101718
Thu, Mar 17, 2005, 21:42

Guru, I'm in one of the AA leagues and wanted to know if there is a minimum innnings pitched requirement?

I'm not planning on using this as a strategy, but it occured to me that it would be possible to draft 1 top flight pitcher have great numbers for ERA and WHIP and tank the other 3 pitching cats while stockpiling hitters.

While this would probably be against the spirit of the game it might be an interesting strategy.

darkside
Dude
ID: 3590317
Thu, Mar 17, 2005, 21:46

Yes. 800. It came up as a possibility last year and we voted and included the min. this year.

FRICK
ID: 3410101718
Thu, Mar 17, 2005, 21:55

I didn't remember reading that anywhere in the RIBC threads.

Thank you Darkside

Chris
ID: 4708114
Fri, Mar 18, 2005, 04:07

These are the hitters drafted by Peter N so far:

Alex Rodriguez, 29 years old, ~9 MLB seasons
Miguel Cabrera, 21 years old, ~1.5 MLB seasons
Justin Morneau, 23 years old, ~1 MLB season
Jason Bay, 26 years old, ~1 MLB season
Orlando Cabrera, 30 years old, ~7 MLB seasons
Johnny Estrada, 28 years old, ~1.5 MLB seasons
Nick Swisher, 24 years old, 0 MLB seasons
Jeremy Reed, 23 years old, 0 MLB seasons
Clint Barmes, 26 years old, 0 MLB seasons
Alex Rios, 24 years old, 1 MLB season
Dallas McPherson, 24 years old, 0 MLB seasons

I knew you were drafting young man, but that's younger than anything I had imagined! 9 out of 11 players have a year and a half of big league time or less.

Of course, I bring this up because I have a number of players like that myself:

Wright(1 year)
Figgins(1.5 years)
Mench(2 years)
Lane(~250 AB's)
Atkins(rookie)
Holliday(1 year)
Closser(rookie)
Bartlett(rookie)

Either we're having a hell of a rookie crop this year, or we're in deep trouble :)

Here's to youth!

Toral
ID: 22731114
Fri, Mar 18, 2005, 04:20

Unfortunately this is not a keeper league.

Toral

Peter N.@ds's
ID: 52250180
Fri, Mar 18, 2005, 08:51

Chris, yup, the plan of my draft going in was to go after upside. I really like alot of the young talent out there, this year especially, and decided to gamble on that rather than veterans. Here's to hoping I'm right! :-) Oh, and if I would've realized that Orlando Cabrera was 30, I wouldn't have drafted him!!! ;-)

rockafellerskank
Dude
ID: 27652109
Fri, Mar 18, 2005, 09:33

I'll pick in the next 15-30 minutes. Sorry for the delay.

Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Mar 18, 2005, 11:20

Even if we shut down for the weekend, we'll finish next week, well ahead of schedule. The clock will be off for the weekend, and although you can still pick when your turn is due, feel free to take a breather, especially if you have conflicting priorities. If you do plan to be on hiatus, an alert here would be thoughtful, however, just so others know the situation.

Toral
ID: 22731114
Fri, Mar 18, 2005, 11:32

For use in future rounds:

Joe Smedlyskyk, ---, ---

The rules of this game require, or rather, allow, me to pick up to 25 players.

Smedlyskyk as of right now is supposed to be on the roster of the -------s as of Opening Day. There's a good chance he'll be released first, but some other team might pick him up.

He has played well and steadily in the past. Unfortunately when he played well it was when he wasn't playing steadily, and when he played steadily he didn't play very well.

Probably he had some personal problems or migraines or something, and given another chance he might play better.

Researching him, I found that a friend of his said that he once hit three homers/struck out 12 guys in high school, and was quite a star there. Although, I'm not quite sure it was this player who being referred to; it might have been another guy with a similar name, the friend wasn't sure.

If he's on an MLB roster this year, Joe has a strong incentive to work hard and play his best, because otherwise he'll be washing cars pretty soon.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Mar 18, 2005, 11:59

I think Pete gets his G20 strategy confused with this league at times! Of course he won this league last year so we shouldn't question him!

I won't be around for most of the weekend. Hopefully I can get two picks off today. Still may leave a Q with someone just in case it should get back to me before I get access again Sunday afternoon.

jumpball
Sustainer
ID: 33050298
Fri, Mar 18, 2005, 12:11

Toral -- I'm planning on using your template for my 18th round "rationalization" that I'm working on now.
LOL

Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Fri, Mar 18, 2005, 12:16

jumpball - you corksucker.

There's nothing more annoying than taking 30 minutes to research your queue, put a name at the top of the list, only to find he's just been taken when you hit the ()*#&_)*( refresh button.

darkside
Dude
ID: 3590317
Fri, Mar 18, 2005, 12:16

That Clark pick hurts me jumpball....I didn't figure he'd get picked, but should have known better. I would have forgone Madritsch had I known Clark wouldn't make it back to me. His SB will be nice from the OF. Nice work.

darkside
Dude
ID: 3590317
Fri, Mar 18, 2005, 12:18

You too, Species. Guess I really should've taken him last pick...I thought he was more under-the-radar than that, but I guess I should've assumed if I knew about him than the other 15 probably do too! Aaargh.

jumpball
Sustainer
ID: 33050298
Fri, Mar 18, 2005, 12:23

darkside -- If Madritch had been available I might well have taken him over Clark.

species -- that's happened to all of us. It's tougher to find good people down here, so it seems more frustrating. I spent a good bit of time researching this pick too -- I figure I was lucky in that the people drafting ahead of me needed catchers.

beastiemiked
ID: 4310501610
Fri, Mar 18, 2005, 12:28

I didn't need a catcher but since Guru horded the MI's I figured I'd horde 2 catchers.

KrazyKoalaBears
Leader
ID: 517553018
Fri, Mar 18, 2005, 13:06

It's highly likely that I will be without internet access from noon on Saturday all the way to Sunday night. If my pick is close enough before I have to leave Saturday morning, I'll leave a queue.

Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Fri, Mar 18, 2005, 13:19

I'm out of town Sat am to Sun early PM. Might bug Guru from the casino though ;-). Figure I'm gambling enough with my RIBC team and 2006 fate, might as well gamble for real!

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Mar 18, 2005, 13:26

YR just made a proxy pick for a G20 member. Guess he hasn't seen that he's been on the clock here.

youngroman
ID: 298482214
Fri, Mar 18, 2005, 13:36

Ref - that was not me. I was on my way home the last hour and will pick in the next 15-30 minutes.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Mar 18, 2005, 13:40

that's weird. why did yokel's pick have your name on it? very weird. Thought it was odd that he had already picked up his player on the site.

Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Fri, Mar 18, 2005, 13:49

Slack explained that he had put YR's name in for some other pick and neglected to change it when he made his G20 pick.

BTW, you're up in G20, Ref.

YR - Check your email.

youngroman
ID: 298482214
Fri, Mar 18, 2005, 14:06

Chris - yahoo has listed Jason Bartlett only as Util.

Species - thanks for your offer, but my man made it back to me. I only had to check his status. I hope you get your player.

Ref - it's your turn.

darkside
Dude
ID: 3590317
Fri, Mar 18, 2005, 14:22

This has been a brutal round on my queue...every guy I'd been looking at (save for the catchers) has been taken. I feel like Wylie E. Coyote when he has to go back to the drawing board after his latest invention blows up on him.

Chris
ID: 4708114
Fri, Mar 18, 2005, 14:23

I see, my mistake. I fixed it in kafenatid.

beastiemiked
ID: 4310501610
Fri, Mar 18, 2005, 15:49

I'm leaving for Florida around 8 ET tonight and won't be back until Wednesday night. I'm in the process of trying to find someone I can leave a long queue with and who I can trust to make a pick for me.

GolfFreak
ID: 82361513
Fri, Mar 18, 2005, 16:52

Guru

I was wondering if you had the Stats from last years league?

Was wondering what the high teams OBP was?
And the high teams Era?
Or if you could send the TOtals.

Thanks

Trip
Sustainer
ID: 13961611
Fri, Mar 18, 2005, 16:59

GolfFreak

Please destroy when finished.

GolfFreak
ID: 82361513
Fri, Mar 18, 2005, 17:25

Thanks

Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Fri, Mar 18, 2005, 17:30

YR - nope. Ref screwed me. I had somehow checked Bernie off my list, or else I would've likely taken him over Reggie suck-ass Sanders. When I realized my error I feared Ref might take him and tried to leap frog over him. Snow would've still been there, so you two must be in cahoots against me! (insert disturbing image of maniacal conspiracy theorist here) I'll get you both for that!!! You'd better call Jack Bauer, because it could get ugly.

holt
ID: 6227147
Fri, Mar 18, 2005, 17:52

youngroman
ID: 298482214
Fri, Mar 18, 2005, 18:13

Sepcies - first Jack Bauer has to save the world this Sunday on local television because we get a 4 hour finale of day 3. after that you can call him. If I would call he would know in 30 seconds where I am and you never know what Jack is doing with you when he needs some information. He would then be in Austria in less than 3 hours, only to keep the TV ratings high. and of course he will have all my future draft picks that someone found in one of the CTU databases. I'd better hack me into their system or I am screwed this season. perhaps I should call Alex Krycek because he knows how to get invisible for Agent Mulder, and sometime at the end of the season I will send the cigarette smoking man and he will tell how I did it all.

beastiemiked
ID: 262411016
Fri, Mar 18, 2005, 19:14

I'm leaving a little early. I sent Guru a queue for rounds 20 and 21. I've appointed J or Twarpy to pick for me after that. I'll be back either Tuesday or Wednesday.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Mar 18, 2005, 19:22

bmd, reconfirm that trade offer in g20 before you leave.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Mar 18, 2005, 19:25

Can't believe I got both Monroe and Bernie!

I've got about an hour at most before I'm gone until Sunday. If it doesn't get back to me I'll send a Q to someone for that pick. As slow it is on the weekend, I'd doubt it would go up and come all the way back down by tomorrow so am not worried about it past then. Now gotta figure out a Q quickly.

Athletics Guy
ID: 232381615
Fri, Mar 18, 2005, 20:22

What happened to my previous post?

holt
ID: 6227147
Fri, Mar 18, 2005, 20:32

dunno. I deleted mine.

anyway, Matt S. is up.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Mar 18, 2005, 21:01

Q sent to Guru. It's only a 2-man Q but both are reaches so they should be safe. Thanks.

Chris
ID: 4708114
Sat, Mar 19, 2005, 11:42

In about 20 minutes I'll be gone until about 4 PST, looking for somebody to take a queue.

youngroman
ID: 298482214
Sat, Mar 19, 2005, 11:53

Chris - I am here until 4 PST

Chris
ID: 4708114
Sat, Mar 19, 2005, 11:57

queue sent to youngroman

jumpball
Sustainer
ID: 33050298
Sat, Mar 19, 2005, 17:34

regarding post #61 -- the template works very well at this stage of the draft. I used it for my 18.08 rationale . . . errr rationalization.
Thanks Toral!!

Guru
ID: 330592710
Sat, Mar 19, 2005, 18:51

bmd - sorry about the Kazmir pick - but he really was on top of my list before you sent me your queue.

rockafellerskank
Dude
ID: 27652109
Sun, Mar 20, 2005, 11:00

Guru or KKB:

Perhaps it is just too early on Sunday morning for me, but I'm stuck. @ 20.13, I want Luis Gonzalez (Col - 2B,3B,SS,OF) who is listed in the Yahoo data base, but every time I enter him, I geta STOP and thinks want to AZ Of'er. Help?

100

Toral
ID: 22731114
Sun, Mar 20, 2005, 11:10

Can you go past the STOP and pick anyway? That's the way it went for me went I picked Odalis Perez (= Oliver Perez to OTC). It warned me, but I could go through the STOP sign.

101

rockafellerskank
Dude
ID: 27652109
Sun, Mar 20, 2005, 12:19

Ok, I'm gonna go thru the STOP sign.

110

Guru
ID: 330592710
Sun, Mar 20, 2005, 19:37

Note to league: I misread a queue from Ref and posted an incorrect pick for him at 20.05. Eight picks followed before the error was caught and corrected.

It seems highly unlikely that any of the intervening picks would have selected the player that was originally listed at 20.05. However, if you are keeping track of picks on your own, you may need to update your list.

111

KrazyKoalaBears
Leader
ID: 517553018
Sun, Mar 20, 2005, 20:56

Okay, I'm back from my weekend and will pick within a half hour. Just need to update my spreadsheet real quick...

112

Peter N.@TTU Library
ID: 39242023
Mon, Mar 21, 2005, 02:13

ds, I'm back and will be able to make my next round pick. And I changed my mind on my 21st round pick so I guess its a good thing I didn't come up. ;-) Thanks for the cover on the 20th round!

113

rockafellerskank
Dude
ID: 27652109
Mon, Mar 21, 2005, 07:24

queue anyone? I'll be out 7a-6p today.

114

KrazyKoalaBears
Leader
ID: 517553018
Mon, Mar 21, 2005, 07:27

rfs, you can send me one. I won't open it until after my pick.

115

rockafellerskank
Dude
ID: 27652109
Mon, Mar 21, 2005, 07:53

KKB - queue sent.

116

Peter N.
ID: 37221218
Mon, Mar 21, 2005, 09:26

Well, I guess deepsnapper didn't see my post 112. Its ok though. I'll just hope that the guy I wanted slides.

118

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Mar 21, 2005, 12:57

FWIW, Guru, Horacio was the guy I had planned to grab. I knew reaching for Phillips may cost me. Oh well, lots of other players available. At this point in the draft I start figuring, heck, I have to have people to drop to pick up the surprises anyhow! ;)

119

Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Mon, Mar 21, 2005, 13:35

Horacio moved to the top of my list as well. I need to stop making lists 6 picks in front of me...too annoying when they're gone.

.....either that or I'll put injured or retired players at the top -- kind of a reverse-psychology thing.

120

Matt S in Mexico
ID: 142312112
Mon, Mar 21, 2005, 13:43

I am terribly behind on my draft rationales, and will update them later this evening. Sorry about that. Queue sent to Guru and Khahan.

Matt S

121

Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Mar 21, 2005, 13:59

Last year I picked Pavano in round 21. Hopefully Horacio will provide similar "lucky 21" magic this season.

125

holt
ID: 6227147
Mon, Mar 21, 2005, 18:04

stocking up on those MI's jumpball?

I was hoping cantu would be available for a couple more rounds. oh well.

127

youngroman
ID: 298482214
Mon, Mar 21, 2005, 18:11

I thought about taking Cantu in this or in the next round. nice pick, now that he should be the starter.

129

jumpball
Sustainer
ID: 33050298
Mon, Mar 21, 2005, 18:34

I was surprised he made it through 2 rounds of the top half of the draft. I wasn't expecting him to be available.

Stockpiling MIs? . . . hell yeah!!
Who's got Figgins? :-)

130

Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Mon, Mar 21, 2005, 19:32

Queue sent to Guru and KKB for Round 21. Will be back online 10:00 or so ET.

132

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Mar 21, 2005, 21:07

Nice pick Species. It was between Nady and Robertson for me. I had to decide which had a better chance to get back to me. Guess I may have been wrong. Would any of the rest of you snagged Nady before it got to me again?

133

Toral
ID: 22731114
Mon, Mar 21, 2005, 22:28

I worote my Ginter (groan) rationale this morning and swore I saved it so I could post it before making this pick. I've been having some computer problems, but I swear it's there somewhere. I sure don't want to have to write it again.

I'll find it or post a placeholder and make my pick shortly.

Toral

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Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Mon, Mar 21, 2005, 23:18

Thanks Ref. I would've been beside myself if you had taken him....that would've made like three odd-numbered picks in a row. While Nady's recent addition of possible 3b time increases his value, no I would not have considered him on this particular turn.

135

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Mar 22, 2005, 01:35

I'll wait until the rationale on Nady to talk more about this pick. But man oh man, I couldn't decide which one to take.

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rockafellerskank
Dude
ID: 27652109
Tue, Mar 22, 2005, 08:40

I'm going to be out 7A-10P today. I have a pretty long queue.... any takers (please don't open if you pick before me).

137

rockafellerskank
Dude
ID: 27652109
Tue, Mar 22, 2005, 09:09

I gotta run.. the only game plan I have is to sendguru a queueu he can use for my next 2 picks.

138

Peter N.
ID: 44253219
Tue, Mar 22, 2005, 09:19

rfs, not sure if you are still around, but I can take one.

139

holt
ID: 6227147
Tue, Mar 22, 2005, 11:02

I'm here - I'll pick in a minute.

141

Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Tue, Mar 22, 2005, 15:27

Was thrilled to nab both Robertson and Padilla this late. Robertson's K's will be nice and I think his ERA and WHIP from last year were way overblown given that he totally ran out of gas down the stretch. Plus the Tigers aren't pushovers anymore.....Padilla seems to be on the right track and has historically given seasons in the 3.70 ERA and 1.25 WHIP range. I love my set of starters now.

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jumpball
Sustainer
ID: 33050298
Tue, Mar 22, 2005, 16:17

Species is "thrilled" ??
This is the same guy that said
"I'm very down on my draft. Extremely frustrated." 11 rounds ago.

;-)

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Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Tue, Mar 22, 2005, 16:23

lol...yeah yeah, I know.

Just wait until you read my retrospective.

144

KrazyKoalaBears
Leader
ID: 517553018
Tue, Mar 22, 2005, 16:44

Anybody going to be around tonight for a queue? I'll be out from 5:30 to about 9.

Let me know

145

Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Mar 22, 2005, 16:46

I'll be around tonight, KKB.

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Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Mar 22, 2005, 16:51

Species, I'll prob. be kicking myself all year for not taking Robertson with that pick. I started the kicking today as Burroughs will start most of the time at 3rd now. Ugh!

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Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Tue, Mar 22, 2005, 17:05

Ref - I might make a trade for Bernie Williams then! You stole him from me.

148

KrazyKoalaBears
Leader
ID: 517553018
Tue, Mar 22, 2005, 17:37

Guru, queue sent.

149

J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Tue, Mar 22, 2005, 18:18

86 beastiemiked
ID: 262411016
Fri, Mar 18, 2005, 19:14 I'm leaving a little early. I sent Guru a queue for rounds 20 and 21. I've appointed J or Twarpy to pick for me after that. I'll be back either Tuesday or Wednesday.

He didnt actually leave any info for me to log in to Kafenatid, so, I'm gonna post it here...

22.12 David Newhan BAL 3B,OF

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Peter N.
ID: 44253219
Tue, Mar 22, 2005, 18:48

Whew, wasn't sure if Blanton would make it back to me.

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Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Mar 22, 2005, 20:12

Species, seeing as how I have an extra OF now, I might consider a trade.

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KrazyKoalaBears
Leader
ID: 517553018
Tue, Mar 22, 2005, 21:19

Guru, I'm back, so you can ignore my other queue. Thanks!

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Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Mar 22, 2005, 21:26

OK.

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darkside
Dude
ID: 3590317
Wed, Mar 23, 2005, 07:50

Hey everyone, sorry about the delay. My computer at home went on the fritz and I had no way of connecting last night. Will pick in about 30 min.

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rockafellerskank
Dude
ID: 27652109
Wed, Mar 23, 2005, 10:02

I'm only a few picks awy, bt I'm going to send another short queue to Guru. I'm sorry i ma behind on rationales, but I have some crisis issues at work and cannot break away (meetings). I should be able to cath up completely tonight.

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Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Wed, Mar 23, 2005, 11:44

UGH. That turn of picks was BRUTAL to my queue. I got greedy with Padilla :(

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J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Wed, Mar 23, 2005, 12:00

beastiemiked said he'd be back either Tuesday or Wednesday, so I'd really like to let him make his next pick. I'm not sure when that'll be though...

sorry guys :(

when does his clock expire?

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Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Mar 23, 2005, 12:05

His clock expires at 4:13 this afternoon.

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Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Mar 23, 2005, 12:50

If bmd surfaces before 4:13, he can pick directly. If not, I should be around at that time to post a pick on his behalf (as long as one of his deputies posts it here). I will be away off-and-on from now until then.

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J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Wed, Mar 23, 2005, 13:06

Oh well, its round 23, no sense in holding this thing up anymore...he'll probably just drop whoever it is anyways :)

23.05 Alexis Rios, OF, TOR

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KrazyKoalaBears
Leader
ID: 517553018
Wed, Mar 23, 2005, 13:07

Alexis (Alex) Rios was taken in round 18. Try again.

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darkside
Dude
ID: 3590317
Wed, Mar 23, 2005, 13:24

....and thanks for helping out, J!

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Matt S in Mexico
ID: 412402313
Wed, Mar 23, 2005, 14:53

Queue sent to Khahan.

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Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Mar 23, 2005, 15:04

I emailed J to let him know his pick was no good. I don't know if he's still around or not.

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Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Wed, Mar 23, 2005, 15:06

I wouldn't have a problem granting him some extra time.....but maybe limit it to 7pm ET or something. If he said he'd be back Weds. 7pm is sufficient time.

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Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Mar 23, 2005, 15:11

I'll let Chris decide. He's up next.

If it gets to me and bmd is still missing, I'll probably wait a little longer.

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holt
ID: 6227147
Wed, Mar 23, 2005, 15:30

personally, I wouldn't want anyone to grant me that much time for one pick.
this draft is moving at a snail's pace now. would be nice to see it start moving again so we can get it finished.

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J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Wed, Mar 23, 2005, 15:45

sorry guys, I search for Alexis and then left!!!

23.05 Aaron Miles, 2B, Col

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KrazyKoalaBears
Leader
ID: 517553018
Wed, Mar 23, 2005, 15:46

We're still projected to finish in roughly 3 days, so I say grant the time. Besides, it's not bmd's fault that J didn't look. ;)

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J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Wed, Mar 23, 2005, 15:47

I did look, I set up a spreadsheet and everything :)

FWIW - I also thought Burnitz was available because you've got his named spelled "Jeremy" instead of "Jeromy"!!! ;)

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Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Mar 23, 2005, 15:55

It was actually bmd that misspelled Jeromy.

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holt
ID: 6227147
Wed, Mar 23, 2005, 18:02

lol at a's guy.

"undrafted future AARP member"

you sure he's not already enrolled?

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darkside
Dude
ID: 3590317
Wed, Mar 23, 2005, 18:15

I was just about to comment on the same thing, holt. Very funny stuff, Athletics Guy!

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Athletics Guy
ID: 32262217
Wed, Mar 23, 2005, 18:29

Glad you enjoyed that :)

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Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Wed, Mar 23, 2005, 22:00

Here's hoping Wily Mo's name ends up on a trade slip soon. RF for TB or WAS, please.

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Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Mar 23, 2005, 22:12

His value would definitely improve if he could et ABs, but those two teams won't allow him to reach his full fantasy potential obviously.

Wonder how many games Barry means to SF? Some analyst at ESPN said 2 wins per month. I took Tomko anyhow.

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rockafellerskank
Dude
ID: 27652109
Thu, Mar 24, 2005, 08:10

I sent KKB a queue--- best I can do. I'll be on the orad all day with no PC access again.

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Matt S
ID: 552192410
Thu, Mar 24, 2005, 11:24

I'll be here for the next half hour or so. I can pick for myself if I'm here. If not, Khahan still has my queue.

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Peter N.
ID: 44253219
Thu, Mar 24, 2005, 12:49

OK, I'm hitting the road for Albuquerque to see Tech play in the Sweet 16. I'm not sure when I'll be able to get back online, but I left Guru a 5-man queue that will hopefully get me through my final two picks.

Wreck Em Tech!!!!!!! :-)

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Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Mar 24, 2005, 13:01

Queue received. Enjoy the game.

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jumpball
Sustainer
ID: 33050298
Thu, Mar 24, 2005, 13:39

Guru -- you used the singular "game". You could have given PeterN a little more hope than that! :-)

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Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Mar 24, 2005, 13:43

I could've said games, although he only mentioned Tech, so that's the game I referred to.

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Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Thu, Mar 24, 2005, 13:54

........he meant by only saying "game" that you were implying that Texas Tech would lose their Sweet 16 game and not reach the Elite 8. You pessimist!

NOTE to Guru and KKB - queue change should be in your inboxes. Thanks.

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Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Thu, Mar 24, 2005, 14:35

KKB - I'm looking for flashing police lights behind me -- I ran a stop sign in drafting Chad Fox. I checked Yahoo! and I spelled it right, I have no idea why I got the stop sign.

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Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Mar 24, 2005, 15:11

I don't see Fox listed in the Yahoo game. That's probably why you got the stop sign.

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youngroman
ID: 298482214
Thu, Mar 24, 2005, 15:12

Species - Chad Fox isn't listed in the Yahoo game yet.

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Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Mar 24, 2005, 15:45

I updated the draft results through round 23 at the Yahoo site: draft results

Please check your roster for accuracy. There are four unlisted players for whom I used placeholders:

Mark Teahen: coded as Robby Alomar
Huston Street: coded as Francis Beltran
Chad Fox: coded as Danny Bautista
Brandon Lyon: coded as Tim Salmon

In each case, when the drafted player becomes available, you may select him by dropping his alternate. Do not use a waiver claim to do so. (I may be able to force the change using Commissioner powers if you don't want to wait until the player clears waivers.) If you drop the placeholder without picking up the drafted player, your protected claim to that player is forfeited.

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Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Mar 24, 2005, 16:53

woah, hold up, I didn't draft loaiza, nor did I leave a queue with anyone.

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KrazyKoalaBears
Leader
ID: 517553018
Thu, Mar 24, 2005, 17:15

Ref, that was my bad. Let me know who you want and I'll replace the pick. I got your pick mixed up with somebody else's queue... it's been a looooooooooooong day.

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jumpball
Sustainer
ID: 33050298
Thu, Mar 24, 2005, 17:18

Sorry to step on your toes, SY . . . I didn't know you were working on your rationalization as I was entering mine!

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jumpball
Sustainer
ID: 33050298
Thu, Mar 24, 2005, 17:20

and Ref -- I didn't see your "hold up" until after I had entered my 24.08 pick. It turns out that I picked about 5 minutes after you posted.

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Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Mar 24, 2005, 17:20

Give me Dewon Brazleton instead.

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KrazyKoalaBears
Leader
ID: 517553018
Thu, Mar 24, 2005, 17:21

Ref, consider it done. Again, that was completely my bad. Sorry.

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Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Mar 24, 2005, 17:22

No worries. Fortunately, I wasn't considering anyone that went after me so we're all good.

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rockafellerskank
Dude
ID: 27652109
Thu, Mar 24, 2005, 21:59

KKB-- I'll be online for only 60-90 more minutes at best. If my pick comes up, post it if I don't.

I'm going to be on the road most of the day tomorrow... will have to leave a queue again (new one from the existing one KKB has). Saturday, I'll be working, but should have reasonable access to pick for myself. Sunday is Easter. I will not be available.

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Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Mar 24, 2005, 22:24

bmd[86] said on Friday that he'd be back on Tuesday or Wednesday, but he hasn't been heard from since. I hope nothing's wrong.

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Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Mar 24, 2005, 23:17

I was thinking the same thing.

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J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Fri, Mar 25, 2005, 01:29

for bmd (I guess I should still pick for him? I haven't heard from him either and I hope he's ok...)

24.12 Todd Hollandsworth, ChC, OF)

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rockafellerskank
Dude
ID: 27652109
Fri, Mar 25, 2005, 08:31

Amyone out there for a queue for my last 2 picks?

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rockafellerskank
Dude
ID: 27652109
Fri, Mar 25, 2005, 08:50

Gotta run.... sent Guru a queue since I pick twice before he picks again.

I'll do all recaps late today or early tomorrow.

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Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Mar 25, 2005, 10:24

Hopefully, we'll get through the final round today or tomorrow. IF so, I'll have the draft all coded into Yahoo by sometime on Sunday night, and I will release the draft and start the season on Monday. At that time, all undrafted players will be on waivers for 2 days.

Waiver priorities will be in the reverse of the opening round of the draft. Matt S will have the top waiver claim, and darkside will be #16.

Are there any other issues that should be addressed prior to activating the league?

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Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Mar 25, 2005, 10:32

Guru, I'm assuming waiver period will be for two days all season.

Once the draft is complete, are we still writing our rationales in order?

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Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Mar 25, 2005, 10:34

A few more logistical details.

When the draft completes, please add your final 2 rationales. Don't worry about keeping those final 2 picks in sequence. Also, please supply all delinquent rationales. Most of you are staying reasonably current, but some of you have some work to do.

At the end of the draft I will also initiate a thread for your comments on the overall draft.

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Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Mar 25, 2005, 10:35

Yes, the waiver period will be 2 days for the whole season.

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Peter N.
ID: 362182510
Fri, Mar 25, 2005, 11:20

I'm back and made my last pick. I had a good time although the result is obviously disappointing. Thanks for the cover on the 24th round pick Dave.

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Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Mar 25, 2005, 12:01

I emailed J to see if he is available to make BMD's final round pick.

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jumpball
Sustainer
ID: 33050298
Fri, Mar 25, 2005, 13:29

Something to consider as a possible rule change next year:

The debate in the pre-season about the possibility of adding a DL slot to each roster (in order to compensate for a vary shallow 4 person bench) combined with a very minor draft advantage for those in the top half of the draft (they draft early in 13 of 25 rounds; late in 12), I'd like to suggest the possibility of adding a 26th round to the draft.

The benefits are that each manager's bench would be lengthened a little and the minor advantage of being in the first half of the draft would be eliminated.

Granted, having the 1st pick on the 25th round is a miniscule advantage, but one player near the top of my queue has been taken before me already. I don't get the opportunity to return the favor!

Some managers will argue that there are no more players left. I disagree. There are at least a half a dozen players that I'd like to draft for my team, given the opportunity.

This probably does not warrant discussion now, but I wanted to put it out while it was fresh on my mind for someone to remember for next year's pre-season thread.

jb

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Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Mar 25, 2005, 13:43

jb, I begged for another bench spot. I even offered to take away a ci and mi or a pitcher slot, but was defeated, I think 12-4. I'd rather have another bench slot than a DL. I'd rather have a thinner FA pool and one more bench spot than the way it is. But all we can do is make the best of what we have. We're all playing on an even playing field and perhaps the four that voted for the change will benefit from the way the rules are now.

The way I see it, I can adjust my strategy to whatever the rules are. But I agree, just a few tweaks that were proposed, yet defeated, would make this league even better IMM. Just like in cards, anyone can win with a good hand, but it takes a good player to win with a bad hand dealt to you. It's just hard to deal with that bad hand (draft/injuries/etc) when there isn't a lot that can be done as far as turnover or trading.

With that said, I think this league is very good and very competitive and will be a lot of fun.

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J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Fri, Mar 25, 2005, 13:49

25.05 Julian Tavarez, RP, StL

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Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Mar 25, 2005, 13:53

Thanks, J

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Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Mar 25, 2005, 14:13

Scott Strickland is not in the Yahoo pool (yet), so I designated Rick Ankiel as the placeholder.

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Peter N.
ID: 12257252
Fri, Mar 25, 2005, 14:51

22.15 Joe Blanton, SP, OAK

I meant to take Blanton with my last pick and didn't expect him to make it back to me. I'm obviously glad that he did. Blanton is likely gonna be the 4th starter for Oakland and has nice potential to flourish this year. I liken him to this year's Zach Greinke. Definitely happy to snag Blanton this late in the draft.

23.02 Mark Teahen, 3B, KC
This pick is a make-up for the Hinske pick. Teahen seems to have nailed down the starting job and should be a good filler at CI until Mcpherson gets back. The strikeout rate early on this spring is a bit of a concern, but I have to like the .407 BA. Not expecting alot here.

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Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Mar 25, 2005, 16:25

I can't wait any longer. I have 3 guys in my Q and I haven't figured out which way to go yet. It may or may not depend on what guys go off before me. I'll be back on in a few hrs. It still may not be my turn by then though.

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Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Mar 25, 2005, 18:58

I'm back and I see it's my pick (though no email this time from kaf.) I've got it narrowed down to two. Would ahve helped if someone would have taken one of them, but no such luck. That probably tells me that neither should be drafted! Gimme a couple mins please.

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Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sat, Mar 26, 2005, 12:08

OK, we're on our final pick. What say ye, Matt S (or Khahan not sure if it's queued or not)?

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Matt S in Mexico
ID: 352292612
Sat, Mar 26, 2005, 13:30

Sorry my queue got emptied. Give me a minute and I'll make my last pick...

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rockafellerskank
ID: 180352016
Sat, Mar 26, 2005, 13:31

Here's my last 3 rationales... sorry couldn't spend more time today, still on the road remotely.

23.04 Alex Sanchez, OF, TB

Took a chance when I drafted Sanchez. He'd been
released by DET and picked up by TB, but not
guaranteed a starting job (RF). TB was (is) still
trying to trade for an OF with some power. It also
means the speedy Gathright might stay at AAA for a
while.... and there my be pressure to bring him up
later. At this point, it looks like Alez will break
camp as the starting RF.

Everyone knows Sanchez can't stay healthy and can't
take a walk, but has a good BA. He has no power.
Frankly, I took a chance for a few reasons. 1) it's
round #23. 2) If he can get hot early with OBP, runs,
SBs, I may be able to trade him as steals are always a
desired commodity. On the slight chance he hits .300, plays 150 games, he could steal 50-- that would make him a steal (yeah right)

I was targeting that extra RP I spoke of earler, but
decided to gamble (SBs/trade bait) here instead.

24.13 Esteban Loaiza (P), WAS

No one is gonna tell you 2003 will ever be duplicated,
but I do think the CHW to NYY thing was not his cup of
tea. He was 9-4 when traded and was a disaster after
that. I think the quieter atmoshpere (media) of WAS will settle
him down. Happy with a 12-12 season... maybe 4.00/1.40
and 5.5K/9IP.... I may play best matchup with him
throghout the year. He also could be an early canidate
to go bye-bye should a need emerge or a hot player
develop.

25.04 Bengie Molina, C, LAAAA

I need a C. Simple. Last pick and I choose between the
Molina brothers.

For me, I never draft C's early [picked the same C
last in G20 whci is 23 runds x 2o owners] as you can
often play musical cather and rotate who is how/who is
not. Once the elite were gone (too high for me), I
never looked at a C again until the Phillips trade was
announced, but I was out of position. No doubt my
weakest single position, but I'd be willing to bet by
years end I can create better than 16th place stats
from the C slot overall.

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Guru
ID: 330592710
Sat, Mar 26, 2005, 13:38

OK, we've finished the draft. Please review the Yahoo draft grid to ensure that I have your roster correct. I plan to activate the league sometime on Monday.

You may now add your remaining rationales to that thread. No need to keep the last rounds in sequence. Free for all!

I will soon set up a separate thread for your general reactions to the draft.

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Toral
ID: 152212521
Sat, Mar 26, 2005, 13:45

18.03 Justin Duchscherer, RP, Oak

Duchcherer has shown the ability in various relief roles to put up an ERA around 3.3. His strong K/BB ratio indicates he should continue his success, although the lack of a pure fastball makes him perhaps unlikely as a closer candidate. If he upgrades his status, it is more likely to be into the A's starting rotation, where I expect he would be effective.

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Matt S in Mexico
ID: 352292612
Sat, Mar 26, 2005, 13:55

23.16 Frank Catalanotto, OF, TOR

I had Little Cat on my roster for the 2003 season, and was very happy being able to plug him into my roster when I needed him. He, like most other players on my roster, won't hurt me in the % categories, and will serve as a cheap source of runs, while on my active roster. He's hitting leadoff for the Jays, which may yeild some decent numbers if he stays healthy for a whole year. That's a big 'if' however, as he's never done it before.

24.01 John Lackey, SP, LAA

There's a lot of things I like about Lackey. 1. He maintains a pretty solid K rate. 2. He is 26 years old, and is entering his arbitration year 3. He has added a changeup to his repetoir of pitches. That's enough upside for me to use a pick on him this late in the draft.

25.16 Juan Rivera, OF, LAA

Well, the reason I took Rivera is simple. I have Jeff Davanon already. Davanon starts vs. righties, Rivera vs. lefties. Rivera had a great year as a reserve outfielder last year, but he won't get many at bats in the Angels lineup. He'll likely be my first to cut loose in the event I need to pick up a player off waivers.

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Guru
ID: 330592710
Sat, Mar 26, 2005, 15:27

Guys - please post your final 2 rounds directly in the rationale thread, not here. I can splice in the rationales for rounds 23 and earlier, but the intent in allowing you to post the last two rounds out of sequence was to relieve the need to copy so many over. So far, that strategy has failed miserably!

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Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sat, Mar 26, 2005, 20:15

Holt, just read your el duque rationale and wondering what you've been smoking! ;)

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holt
ID: 6227147
Sat, Mar 26, 2005, 20:33

lol.
well - all I can say is check out his stats.
1.29 whip, 1k per inning, and and 8-2 record last season.
1.24 career whip. I know he's not randy johnson but unlike some of the other pitchers that have been drafted, at least he's shown that he can put up some good numbers.
I mean - obviously no one else in the league wanted him. he dropped to the 23.15 pick. I just don't know why. I think he's worthy of taking a chance on.
el duque career stats

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holt
ID: 6227147
Sat, Mar 26, 2005, 20:36

btw - I know he'll probably break down at some point. I'm expecting somewhere in the 100-140 IP range. that's why you can't draft him until at least the 19th round or so. I just think that until he breaks down, he'll put up good numbers.

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Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sat, Mar 26, 2005, 21:59

LOL

Yeah if he can do that all season, you've got the steal of the draft. But seeing as how he's pitched like 85 innings total the past two years, I'm not expecting much from him. COule be a nice surprise, but I don't expect him to come close to those numbers. I think he'd have more value as a MR fantasy-wise, but again, who knows what will happen. That's why they play the game.

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Ref
ID: 4202711
Sun, Mar 27, 2005, 12:01

Pride just told me that his cousin, Teahan, is getting the nod for opening day. That could be a nice upside already for Pete's team.

247

Toral
ID: 152212521
Sun, Mar 27, 2005, 19:16

20.03 Ricky Bottalico, RP, Mil

Bottalico had control problems last year but with the Mets was able to strike out 61 batters in 70 innings and put up a 3.38 ERA. The Brewers appear ready to give Adams a full shot at the closer job but if he has problems or goes down Bottalico appears to be the likely replacement. On my team that's enough to earn him a job on the pitching staff.

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Toral
ID: 152212521
Sun, Mar 27, 2005, 19:26

23.14 Endy Chavez, OF, Was

Reports are that Frank Robinson would like to lead Chavez off if he can show he's up to the job, although ihttin 9th is also a possibility, as is not being a starting OF at all. He stole 31 bases last year and was caught 7 times, and that is his value, as a source of cheap steals. He doesn't walk, and needs to hit .285 or more to avoid being an anvil around my neck in OBP, as well as the other hitting categories except runs. He hit .277 last year and is an age-27 guy which gives him a reasonable chance to have his best hitting year, while not being so old as to lose his base-stealing ability. If I'm able to pick the right matchups to choose when he's in my lineup, his steals would be of use.

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Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Mar 27, 2005, 22:59

Toral, as bad as Chavez hits, I doubt that he bats 9th! ;)

250

beastiemiked
ID: 262411016
Sun, Mar 27, 2005, 23:58

Sorry for any holdups. My vacation extended a couple of days longer than expected. I'll try and catch up on everything by tomorrow.

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Toral
ID: 5529286
Mon, Mar 28, 2005, 08:01

23.14 Endy Chavez, OF, Was

Reports are that Frank Robinson would like to lead Chavez off if he can show he's up to the job, although hitting 8th is also a possibility, as is not being a starting OF at all. He stole 31 bases last year and was caught 7 times, and that is his value, as a source of cheap steals. He doesn't walk, and needs to hit .285 or more to avoid being an anvil around my neck in OBP, as well as the other hitting categories except runs. He hit .277 last year and is an age-27 guy which gives him a reasonable chance to have his best hitting year, while not being so old as to lose his base-stealing ability. If I'm able to pick the right matchups to choose when he's in my lineup, his steals would be of use.

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Toral
ID: 5529286
Mon, Mar 28, 2005, 08:03

There, I did a new rationalization just so ref wouldn't laugh at me. Can't self-edit the old one away, though, as I've done an Adaware scan since then and have a different cookie.

Hopefully guru sees the 2nd one before he adds the first one.

Toral

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