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| Posted by: Coach42
- [222472122] Tue, Mar 21, 2006, 23:50
I remember reading somewhere that someone (i think it was from SI)averages out the average stats needed to win a 5x5 league for baseball. does anyone know where i can find something similar to this? i think i read it last year |
| | | 1 | biliruben
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ID: 589301110
Wed, Mar 22, 2006, 13:45
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It depends heavily on the size of the roster and the number of managers in the league.
As a starting place, here's the final standings for a 13 team shallow league (17 bench spots total):
Final Standings, NWA.
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| | | 2 | biliruben
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ID: 589301110
Wed, Mar 22, 2006, 13:48
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You'll click to some random league now, btw, if you use the hyperlinks.
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| | | 3 | ChicagoTRS
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ID: 566152116
Wed, Mar 22, 2006, 15:39
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bili...how many pitcher innings is it in that league? The Ks and Ws seem very low compared to the 13 team league I have ran the past 3 years. We do 1300 inning cap and the top K team is generally ~1150 and wins can be in the high 80s low 90s.
The HR/RBI/Runs also seem a little low...but maybe just a few percent off. I will post the results of my leagues when I get home this evening.
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| | | 4 | biliruben
ID: 531202411
Wed, Mar 22, 2006, 16:02
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1000 - It's a shallow league. We only have 6 total P spots and two bench spots, so I cut it back.
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| | | 5 | ChicagoTRS
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ID: 566152116
Wed, Mar 22, 2006, 16:10
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Ok that makes sense...we run 13 teams but have a deep bench...6 spots...and 8 active pitcher slots...so most people use up their innings...does hurt the WHIP/ERA #s some...
26 man rosters...161 games per position...with daily moves you can come pretty close to maxing most of the postion games too.
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| | | 6 | biliruben
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ID: 589301110
Wed, Mar 22, 2006, 17:10
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Yeah, it's quite a challenge to get zeros in your position players with just a couple of bench spots.
The purpose of the shallow league, btw, is that there are a number of casual players in the league, and my thought was that I wanted them to perhaps be competitive (checking in maybe once a week) against someone who would be likely to churn their roster for Ws and Ks. I also didn't want the WW vultures to stack their benches with an all star team.
I don't know successful I was.
Any other ideas as to set up a league were daily diligence is only minimally rewarded?
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| | | 7 | ChicagoTRS
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ID: 566152116
Wed, Mar 22, 2006, 17:17
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Do not allow daily roster changes...make it weekly...
Only way to limit waiver heros is to limit the number of transactions.
My brother plays in a league where moves are limited to like 3 special moves a year and it ends up really coming down to the best draft. Does allow people to drop/replace unlimited DL players.
(personally I like as much flexibility as possible because I feel that is one of my big advantages is platooning players and constantly tweaking rosters)
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| | | 8 | biliruben
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ID: 589301110
Wed, Mar 22, 2006, 17:23
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Yeah, I thought of that. A league I was in like that, folks just lost interest.
This is a wild, fun league. I have two pages of trades, and those are only the ones that involved draft picks. One particular draft pick got trades 5 times last year.
People constantly tweak, with the short bench. (As a consequence I was able to pick up Bay and Sizemore off the WW in May - nice for a keeper league).
I don't want to stifle that. I just don't want the unemployed guy to always win. ;)
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| | | 9 | Coach42
ID: 222472122
Wed, Mar 22, 2006, 22:03
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Thanks for the help, i'm in kind of a weird league, instead of a max innings we have a min. of 30 a week. never done one like this before, we'll see how things go
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| | | 10 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Mar 22, 2006, 22:47
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OUCH! Better hope a team doesn't get sadled with some rainouts and a one start week! I don't think I like that much at all.
I don't like leagues where the draft pretty much decides your fate. My favorite leagues are the ones that you can be dealt even a mediocre hand and be able to tweak your team on the WW, make trades and use your bench and still be competitive. A short bench and a deep active roster can criple not only the WW for certain positions but the ability to find a trading partner as well.
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| | | 11 | Coach42
ID: 222472122
Wed, Mar 22, 2006, 23:17
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I think I have a pretty decent team, my pitching, i feel is better than my hitting, but we'll see. here is my roster, i don't have any great guys in one category (no one over 30 HR) but a lot of my guys are multidimensional.
C B. Molina
(Tor - C) 121/410 45 89 17 0 15 69 0 .295
1B C. Utley
(Phi - 1B,2B) 158/543 93 85 39 6 28 105 16 .291
2B F. López
(Cin - 2B,SS) 169/580 97 107 34 5 23 85 15 .291
3B D. Wright
(NYM - 3B) 176/575 99 106 42 1 27 102 17 .306
SS J. Rollins
(Phi - SS) 196/677 115 135 38 11 12 54 41 .290
OF G. Sizemore
(Cle - OF) 185/640 111 115 37 11 22 81 22 .289
OF J. Drew
(LAD - OF) 72/252 48 44 12 1 15 36 1 .286
OF J. Hermida
(Fla - OF) 12/41 9 6 2 0 4 11 2 .293
Util A. Béltre
(Sea - 3B) \154/603 69 98 36 1 19 87 3 .255
BN R. Ibañez
(Sea - OF) 172/614 92 118 32 2 20 89 9 .280
Pitching
SP R. Johnson
(NYY - SP) 225.2 17 4 0 95 32 211 3.79 1.13
SP F. Hernández
(Sea - SP) 84.1 4 0 0 25 5 77 2.67 1.00
SP Z. Duke
(Pit - SP) 84.2 8 0 0 17 3 58 1.81 1.20
SP S. Kazmir
(TB - SP) 186.0 10 0 0 78 12 174 3.77 1.46
RP C. Cordero
(Was - RP) 74.1 2 0 47 15 9 61 1.82 0.97
RP D. Turnbow
(Mil - RP) 67.1 7 0 39 13 5 64 1.74 1.08
BN J. Lackey
(LAA - SP) 209.0 14 1 0 80 13 199 3.44 1.33
BN J. Valverde
(Ari - RP) 66.1 3 0 15 18 5 75 2.44 1.07
BN S. Shields
(LAA - RP) 91.2 10 0 7 28 5 98 2.75 1.12
BN Ol. Pérez
(Pit - SP) 103.0 7 0 0 67 23 97 5.85 1.67
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