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| Posted by: Guru
- [330592710] Wed, Mar 07, 2007, 11:16
The draft will be activated shortly, although the clock will not be turned on until Friday, March 9.
Starting on Friday morning, we will institute a 6 hour clock. The clock will pause between 1am and 7am ET. I know that the pause times extend late for easterners and end early for westerners, but with a 6 hour pause, this still provides a 12 hour window for any pick which extends through the pause period, which should be ample.
If you time out, the draft will move on. Skipped picks can be made up at any time thererafter. If your turn arises and you still have an outstanding skipped pick, I will probably move the draft on to the next picker. If we get well ahead of pace, I may relax that stance. But hopefully it will not become an issue. This also means that people on the turn have a single clock period to make their first pick, or both picks will be skipped.
Although the clock will be set at 6 hours, we cannot make satisfactory progress if many managers use much of that allowance. We need to average a little more than one round per day, so please do your best to keep up the pace. If we fall behind, managers who are chronically slow may be put on an shorter clock.
We will use this thread for logistical communications, to help others anticipate potential delays, to recruit someone to accept a queue, to announce or solicit trades, to coordinate changes in the clock for weekends, etc. Please check this thread regularly throughout the draft, as we will rely on it as the primary means of communication among RIBC managers.
Established draft etiquette is that no undrafted player names should be mentioned either here or in the rationale threads, and in the event of an infraction, should be edited out.
After two rounds have been completed, a separate draft rationale thread will be started. We will try to keep that thread on a 2 round lag. Therefore, after you make your pick in round 3, please immediately post your round 1 pick rationale, and so forth. I usually draft my rationales as I make picks, so that all I need to do when the time comes is copy and paste. I recommend that approach for everyone.
You may draft a player even if he is not currently listed on Yahoo. In that event, you will have the first rights to claim that player when he is listed, as long as you preserve that roster slot for him.
Once the draft is completed, you will no longer be able to protect a slot for any unlisted player. At that point, unlisted players will only be available through the standard waiver/free agent process.
When you select a player, please list him at the position that you primarily expect to use him. Of course, these positions are not binding, and are only indicative of your anticipated usage. YAHOO position eligibilities will be used throughout the season.
The draft software allows you to set up a queue, and to make that queue available to any other manager who you authorize as a designated picker. Be aware that, as commish, I am automatically authorized as a DP for everyone. Your queue will not be visible to your DPs until it is your turn to pick, and you may specify whether the entire queue should be visible, or only the top name. However, if you do not make your queue "available", then no one will be able to see it when it is your turn. If you want your queue to be used, then please be sure that you have it set as available. If you do not want your queue used, then be sure to make it unavailable. If it is your turn and a queue is available to me, I will make that pick for you unless you have posted explicit instructions to the contrary in this thread.
In order to keep the draft moving at an acceptable pace, please make active use of queues if you expect to be unavailable when it is your turn. Recent drafts have gone very smoothly due primarily to the active use of queues.
The draft will last for 25 rounds. You are not required to draft a player for every position. |
| | | 1 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Mar 07, 2007, 11:18
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As a reminder, here are our league settings:
Draft Type: Offline Draft
Max Teams: 16
Scoring Type: Rotisserie
Player Universe: All baseball
Max Moves: No maximum
Max Trades: No maximum
Trade Reject Time: 1
Trade End Date: August 26, 2007
Waiver Time: 2 days
Can't Cut List Provider: None
Trade Review: Commissioner
Post Draft Players: Follow Waiver Rules
Max Games Played: 162
Max Innings Pitched: 1350
Weekly Deadline: Daily - Tomorrow
Start Scoring on: Sunday, Apr 1
Roster Positions: C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, CI, MI, OF, OF, OF, OF, Util, SP, RP, P, P, P, P, P, P, P, BN, BN, BN, BN
Stat Categories: R, RBI, SB, OBP, SLG, W, SV, K, ERA, WHIP
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| | | 3 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Mar 07, 2007, 11:26
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The draft has now been activated.
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| | | 4 | Philsphan
Donor
ID: 301442416
Wed, Mar 07, 2007, 11:30
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Prince Albert and I will be picking shortly.
Also, I will be available for queues most every day for anyone who needs a DP.
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| | | 5 | StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Wed, Mar 07, 2007, 11:41
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And we're off and running.
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| | | 6 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 15023167
Wed, Mar 07, 2007, 11:44
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I usually draft my rationales as I make picks, so that all I need to do when the time comes is copy and paste. I recommend that approach for everyone.
I would like to emphatically (and boldly) support this idea. This is my 4th RIBC (hard to believe!) and the only frustrating part is waiting days on end for people to post their rationales. RIBC takes commitment from all involved, so please, PLEASE!, follow Guru's advice so that you can post your rationales in a reasonable timeframe.
Besides, it's just much less work that way because you don't spend an hour trying to remember all the reasons you selected the player.
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| | | 7 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Mar 07, 2007, 11:56
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It's been a useful discipline for other reasons too. On more than one occasion, I found my rationale to be so uncompelling that I decided to change the pick. So now I almost always draft the rationale before I make the pick.
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| | | 8 | StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Wed, Mar 07, 2007, 13:08
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I don't think I'm supposed to announce that I picked, but just in case, Athletics Guy is up as I picked right after philsphan. Long time until I get to pick again, so please save some players for me.
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| | | 10 | Flying Polack
Sustainer
ID: 378582811
Wed, Mar 07, 2007, 13:33
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If I'm on the clock it could take me a while to pick. I've got class tonight and I'll be in meetings most of the day tomorrow. I'm planning on putting together my ratings spreadsheet tomorrow night. If the draft goes as I expect it might take me a while to make my pick. Sorry. Once I get my spreadsheet together I'll be able to leave queue's.
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| | | 11 | filthy
ID: 35237717
Wed, Mar 07, 2007, 18:48
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Sorry guys, thanks for choosing for me. I'm pretty impatient myself, so I'm extra sorry for holding this up. Been busy/sick lately, also I didn't receive any recent emails from Guru, but now that I know this has started I will probably be checking the draft every 5 minutes like in previous years.
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| | | 12 | Flying Polack
Sustainer
ID: 378582811
Thu, Mar 08, 2007, 10:28
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I'm here, I'll be able to pick during my lunch hour.
In the meantime, if anyone picking 7 through 9 is interested in trading up let me know.
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| | | 13 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Mar 08, 2007, 15:13
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It's possible that I'd be willing to swap my first and second round picks with anyone behind me. That will depend on how the next couple of picks go. In particular, if the guys picking #13 or #14 have any interest, mull it over. I'll let you know when the time comes.
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| | | 14 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 15023167
Thu, Mar 08, 2007, 15:17
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Guru, let me know. Also depends on next few picks for me, but I'm always willing to think it over.
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| | | 15 | Building 7
Sustainer
ID: 171572711
Thu, Mar 08, 2007, 15:34
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I pick 13th. I may be interested also.
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| | | 16 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 15023167
Thu, Mar 08, 2007, 16:13
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Looks like I'm not going to want to move up.
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| | | 17 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Mar 08, 2007, 16:14
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We must be eyeing the same guys...
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| | | 18 | Building 7
Sustainer
ID: 171572711
Thu, Mar 08, 2007, 16:22
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I may be willing to move down 2 or 3 picks in the 1st round. Email me if interested. I am also interested in trading my 2nd and 3 round picks for someone elses's. Picks 20 and 45 overall.
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| | | 19 | filthy
ID: 9235816
Thu, Mar 08, 2007, 18:00
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I have a queue ready, does anyone wanna be a designated picker?
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| | | 20 | Philsphan
Donor
ID: 301442416
Thu, Mar 08, 2007, 18:03
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I'm available. You can use me.
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| | | 21 | Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Thu, Mar 08, 2007, 18:03
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I'm around and can be your DP
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| | | 22 | filthy
ID: 9235816
Thu, Mar 08, 2007, 18:09
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More the merrier...whoever sees it first I suppose.
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| | | 23 | blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Thu, Mar 08, 2007, 20:14
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KKB, the colors for free form entry are backwards. It shows red for available and green for unavailable.
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| | | 24 | JTSERB
ID: 16611522
Thu, Mar 08, 2007, 22:25
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Have a Que for my 1st and 2nd round picks set... feel free to use them. Please choose the top player. Thanks
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| | | 25 | StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Thu, Mar 08, 2007, 23:17
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I made your 1st pick for you JTSERB. Nice getting Carlos so low there.
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| | | 26 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 354152921
Thu, Mar 08, 2007, 23:29
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blue hen, I actually went back and forth about that. The reason it is the way it is now is because allowing free-form entry is actually quite dangerous. You're giving permission to your Designated Pickers to pick whomever they want to. Thus, "danger = red." In terms of a queue, not having a queue available is dangerous because you could miss a pick.
But, I completely understand the reasoning for "unavailable = red" and have mulled it over on numerous occasions. Still not really sure which was indicates it best and I've actually considered just getting rid of the colors for that reason.
I'll still have to think about it more and even then, I'm not sure there will be a final decision.
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| | | 27 | blue hen
ID: 53226823
Fri, Mar 09, 2007, 00:29
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Well, "queue available" is green so I figured they'd match. You're absolutely correct with your analysis, but I think the green is less confusing and more appropriate.
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| | | 28 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Mar 09, 2007, 09:45
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The 6 hour clock is now turned on.
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| | | 29 | blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Fri, Mar 09, 2007, 09:53
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I thought about it some more. Available means "go ahead and let people choose this way." That means green to me.
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| | | 30 | Bags
ID: 2500120
Fri, Mar 09, 2007, 11:19
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I am going to be on the road all day Saturday and most of Sunday. I will not have computer access until Monday.
I was wondering if someone would be willing to give me a call when and if my picks come up. I will have a queue but picks can change depending who falls to me.
Send me an email if you can help me out. Thank you.
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| | | 31 | Bags
ID: 2500120
Fri, Mar 09, 2007, 12:34
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I have recieved 3 responses from people to help me out. I think that should cover me. Thanks again.
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| | | 32 | Bags
ID: 2500120
Fri, Mar 09, 2007, 13:04
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My queue is set. Use it if my pick comes up for round #2 only.
I will reset tonight for round #3 before I leave Saturday morning.
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| | | 33 | Building 7
Sustainer
ID: 171572711
Fri, Mar 09, 2007, 13:40
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Bags' queue is unavailable and it sounds like he wants us to pick his 2nd round choice for him.
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| | | 34 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Mar 09, 2007, 13:40
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Bags may have set his queue, but he apparently failed to make it available. Hope he's still around.
Remember, setting your queue does not mean that others can see it when it is your turn. You have to also make if AVAILABLE - either all players, or just the top player on the list.
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| | | 35 | Building 7
Sustainer
ID: 171572711
Fri, Mar 09, 2007, 13:49
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I called him. He will pick shortly.
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| | | 36 | Peter N.
ID: 490381517
Fri, Mar 09, 2007, 14:19
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I'll be driving home and be out of pocket for about 6 hours this afternoon. I have set up a queue and made it available to blue hen and guru. This queue is only for my 3rd round pick assuming the draft makes it back to me before I get home. Have a good afternoon.
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| | | 37 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Mar 09, 2007, 16:30
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I created the first rationale thread. With luck, we'll be ready to start posting those later today.
When you make your third round pick, please post your first round rationale at the same time. When you post your first rationale, you may also comment on your choice of draft order.
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| | | 38 | Trip
Leader
ID: 13961611
Fri, Mar 09, 2007, 17:20
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Can someone select Matt Holliday, OF, COL for me.
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| | | 39 | Philsphan
Donor
ID: 301442416
Fri, Mar 09, 2007, 17:23
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I would if I was a DP...
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| | | 40 | blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Fri, Mar 09, 2007, 17:50
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Guru, that's a football thread.
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| | | 41 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Mar 09, 2007, 18:03
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Oops. I fixed it.
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| | | 42 | blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Fri, Mar 09, 2007, 18:09
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I swear to you, Mach IM'd me 30 minutes ago and said "why didn't you tell me I was up" and then never picked!
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| | | 43 | Athletics Guy
ID: 281162612
Fri, Mar 09, 2007, 18:57
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LOL, I fell asleep man!
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| | | 44 | filthy
ID: 1524916
Fri, Mar 09, 2007, 18:57
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if it makes it my way sometime tonight, my queue is available
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| | | 45 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 31252921
Fri, Mar 09, 2007, 22:55
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Been on the road too much today to set a queue, but I'll check in tomorrow morning to see where things stand.
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| | | 46 | Flying Polack
Sustainer
ID: 378582811
Fri, Mar 09, 2007, 23:53
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Looks like Sanfordors forgot to post his rationale. I've got my ready, I'll post it in the morning.
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| | | 47 | StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Sat, Mar 10, 2007, 01:00
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you should put a placeholder and post your rationale otherwise things can get way behind as picks continue to be made.
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| | | 49 | Bags
ID: 2500120
Sat, Mar 10, 2007, 02:13
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I will be on the road Saturday morning. I have left a queue and assigned DP's.
If someone could give me a call when it is my pick I will give instructions on who to pick.
I should be back online Sunday night. Thanks!
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| | | 51 | blue hen
ID: 53226823
Sat, Mar 10, 2007, 10:06
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I have my rationales at work, so they may have to wait until Monday. But in actuality, hindsight might be better in this case. I might post it this afternoon.
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| | | 52 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sat, Mar 10, 2007, 10:30
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[46] - Please, please, please - if you have your rationale ready, post a placeholder (or 2 or 3 or whatever's necessary) and then post yours. Otherwise, we'll get backed up beyond belief.
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| | | 53 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 31252921
Sat, Mar 10, 2007, 10:34
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I'm here and will pick within a couple of minutes. I'll then post my rationale with any necessary placeholders.
Guru, I'm leaving a queue for my next pick, BUT I'm hoping to be around to make my next pick (round 4). If you can give me 15 minutes to make it, that would be great. If I don't make my pick within 15 minutes, go ahead and grab from my queue.
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| | | 54 | Philsphan
Donor
ID: 301442416
Sat, Mar 10, 2007, 10:47
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I've picked from JTSERB and Filthy's Queues. I hope those are the guys they wanted!
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| | | 55 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 31252921
Sat, Mar 10, 2007, 10:48
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Okay, looks like I'm up again, so ignore #53 because I had no time to set up a queue. I'll be picking soon. :)
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| | | 56 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 31252921
Sat, Mar 10, 2007, 10:54
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Given the DP picks for the turn, I went ahead and put in placeholders for the rationales.
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| | | 57 | Flying Polack
Sustainer
ID: 378582811
Sat, Mar 10, 2007, 11:05
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I'm heading out for a couple hours. It's too far away to leave a queue. There is a good chance I'll be interested in trading down in the 4th round in order to move up in additional rounds. Shoot me an e-mail if you're interested and plan on being online this afternoon.
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| | | 58 | Dave R
SuperDude
ID: 3010361110
Sat, Mar 10, 2007, 14:24
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Am I the only one not getting email notifications that it's my turn to pick?
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| | | 59 | StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Sat, Mar 10, 2007, 15:43
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I've been getting them at my work email. One thing that would be nice would be if you could specify a second email to receive notifications at too.
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| | | 61 | Philsphan
Donor
ID: 301442416
Sat, Mar 10, 2007, 15:45
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StL
I believe you can. I know I get 2 notices each time...
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| | | 62 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sat, Mar 10, 2007, 16:00
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[59] If you go to "Edit Account", you can set up a secondary email address that will also get notices.
[58] Your ISP might be blocking the email as suspected spam. You might try adding a secondary address to see if that one lets the email through.
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| | | 63 | StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Sat, Mar 10, 2007, 16:12
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This is interesting. I went and checked and it turns out I have a secondary address set up, my work email, where I am getting the notices. My primary account is my home email, yet I am not getting notices there, and they are not going to my spam mail either. That one is an AOL account, so I guess it is possible that aol is blocking it on thier spam list for some reason.
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| | | 65 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 31252921
Sat, Mar 10, 2007, 16:54
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StLCards [63], yeah AOL tends to not like my emails for some reason. You'd think that since it's all text they wouldn't have an issue, but then again, it's AOL. :)
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| | | 66 | StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Sat, Mar 10, 2007, 16:59
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Maybe they've seen enough of my picks to realize it's junk ;)
It's not a big deal since when I'm home I'll be checking in periodically. Hope Holt doesn't wind up timing out.
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| | | 68 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sat, Mar 10, 2007, 17:40
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AOL is notorious for blocking emails from sites they don't recognize. Most system generated emails from rotoguru (game registration confirmations, automated reminders, etc.) are rejected by AOL, and if you have an AOL address, you don't even have the option to let them through. That's probably what's happening here - and is the reason why I'd NEVER recommend that any have an AOL address without at least one other address as an alternative.
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| | | 74 | blue hen
ID: 472431014
Sun, Mar 11, 2007, 01:05
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We are all officially idiots. In what way is Troy Glaus 41 picks worse than Miguel Tejada? That's the pick of the draft, so far.
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| | | 75 | StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Sun, Mar 11, 2007, 02:32
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Thanks bh :)
I was sweating that one out since round two and gambled that he would slip through the cracks. I hoped between people thinking about SP and closers, and Glaus not commonly thought of as a SS, he just might make it back to me.
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| | | 77 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sun, Mar 11, 2007, 08:21
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I thought about Glaus (as a SS) in round 4, but actually had Guillen rated higher.
I would have taken him this round if still available, but figured someone would step in.
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| | | 78 | Bandos
Sustainer
ID: 279492419
Sun, Mar 11, 2007, 10:01
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Sorry to hijack: STL Cards, where did you see that info about Peavy? As a high draftee in TWO leagues, I am very curious as I can't find anything at all about a dead arm.
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| | | 79 | holt
ID: 590581711
Sun, Mar 11, 2007, 10:02
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left a queue for my 5th rd pick. please don't use it for the 6th rd.
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| | | 80 | blue hen
ID: 472431014
Sun, Mar 11, 2007, 10:41
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Bags is trying to get internet on the road. If he can't do it in the next hour, he'll call me back with his pick.
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| | | 81 | Bags @ Destin
ID: 59250119
Sun, Mar 11, 2007, 11:51
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I'll pick shortly
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| | | 83 | Bags @ Destin
ID: 59250119
Sun, Mar 11, 2007, 12:11
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My queue is set for my next pick only.
Someone give me a call if it is my pick in round 7 today and I will add more players to my queue.
My plan is to set my queue for 2 rounds each morning. The rest of the day has a beach with my name on it.
Thank you to Blue Hen & Building 7 for keeping me informed.
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| | | 84 | Bags @ Destin
ID: 59250119
Sun, Mar 11, 2007, 12:13
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Guru, I will catch up on rationals in the morning.
Sorry.
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| | | 86 | blue hen
ID: 472431014
Sun, Mar 11, 2007, 12:18
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Bags Beach? I never heard of it. Hope you're enjoying your vacation and not letting something silly like an RIBC draft get in the way of it. Where is Destin, anyway?
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| | | 87 | Weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Sun, Mar 11, 2007, 12:22
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#78
Manager Bud Black said Jake Peavy was dealing with a dead arm while giving up four runs in 2 2/3 innings against the Cubs on Friday.
It happens to a lot of pitchers this time of year. Peavy is expected to stay on his normal schedule.
Source: Padres.mlb.com
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| | | 88 | Bags @ Destin
ID: 59250119
Sun, Mar 11, 2007, 12:22
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Florida panhandle, about 1hr east of Pensacola.
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| | | 89 | blue hen
ID: 472431014
Sun, Mar 11, 2007, 13:09
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Dude, it's after noon. Why don't you go out and get some sun?
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| | | 91 | StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Sun, Mar 11, 2007, 13:28
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#77 - I had Guillen ranked higher at SS too, but someone beat me to him. I figured though between Young, Guillen, Glaus, and Hall that one of them would make it back to me.
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| | | 95 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sun, Mar 11, 2007, 15:30
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Looks like filthy only had one live name left in his queue, so we'll have to wait for him to make his second pick.
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| | | 97 | Dave R
SuperDude
ID: 3010361110
Sun, Mar 11, 2007, 18:11
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Looks like Filthy is taking a nap between picks ;)
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| | | 98 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 354152921
Sun, Mar 11, 2007, 18:14
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Guru made his 5th round pick from the queue. Looks like the queue's empty [#95], so we'll have to wait for his return.
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| | | 100 | filthy
ID: 370396
Sun, Mar 11, 2007, 18:31
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I've now picked, sorry again for the holdup
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| | | 101 | Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Sun, Mar 11, 2007, 23:00
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Excerpt from my 6.06 rationale -
For the second time in three rounds I cursed out loud. In the 4th round, I was certain that Guru wouldn’t take Carlos Guillen … and he did. This round I was certain he wouldn’t take Chad Cordero. And he did. I wonder how’ll he’ll mess up my best laid plans in the 8th round? I certainly now realize that I need more than a 1-man queue.
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| | | 102 | blue hen
ID: 472431014
Mon, Mar 12, 2007, 00:11
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Be wary of that Guru guy. I pick after (and before) Holt, and he's pretty good. I think he went to bed this time...
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| | | 103 | holt
ID: 590581711
Mon, Mar 12, 2007, 00:26
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sorry - just got home. working on my pick right now.
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| | | 104 | Peter N.
ID: 16222119
Mon, Mar 12, 2007, 00:28
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are you still around bh?
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| | | 105 | holt
ID: 590581711
Mon, Mar 12, 2007, 01:00
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that was difficult. still a lot of great players available.
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| | | 107 | blue hen
ID: 472431014
Mon, Mar 12, 2007, 01:29
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I picked for Bags per post 83. It seems like he had set his queue for round six (NOT seven) so I took the top guy in his queue (Harden).
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| | | 108 | holt
ID: 590581711
Mon, Mar 12, 2007, 08:07
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i left a queue for the 7th rd but I really hope I'm able to check in so that it doesn't have to be used. it's not well researched or anything.
anyway, please allow a few minutes before using my queue if possible.
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| | | 110 | Bags @ Destin
ID: 59250119
Mon, Mar 12, 2007, 09:23
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I am setting my queue for rounds 7&8. Someone give me a call if I need to make a pick for round 9.
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| | | 111 | Trip
Leader
ID: 13961611
Mon, Mar 12, 2007, 09:34
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I am interested in trading down if there is anyone interested in moving up with my next picks (6.13 & 7.04)
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| | | 113 | Trip
Leader
ID: 13961611
Mon, Mar 12, 2007, 10:59
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Please select Richie Sexson, 1B, SEA for me.
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| | | 114 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 15023167
Mon, Mar 12, 2007, 11:13
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Seattle's Sexson selected succinctly sans steals.
[Yes, this DST thing is getting to me.]
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| | | 115 | Trip
Leader
ID: 13961611
Mon, Mar 12, 2007, 12:14
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About to go to a meeting, won't be available until 1:30 EST. Still looking to trade down my 7.04 selection.
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| | | 116 | Trip
Leader
ID: 13961611
Mon, Mar 12, 2007, 15:58
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FYI: Yahoo has begun moving e-mail from kafenatid to my spam folder.
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| | | 117 | Flying Polack
Sustainer
ID: 378582811
Mon, Mar 12, 2007, 16:00
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I'm heading out 'til after dinner. Too much uncertainty in this round to leave a queue 8 picks away.
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| | | 119 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Mar 12, 2007, 16:16
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Argh.
Once again, we got to the turn with only one live player in the queue. I picked Pierre from Philphan's queue for 6.16, but now it is empty, so we'll have to wait for him to return.
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| | | 120 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 15023167
Mon, Mar 12, 2007, 16:21
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Looks like that worked out quicker than the last time. :)
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| | | 122 | Philsphan
Donor
ID: 301442416
Mon, Mar 12, 2007, 16:37
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Guru,
I was wondering how Pierre got picked, because I didn't! I was re-racking my list because my #1 choices all went down in the previous 5 picks. I should have turned off my queue.
As it turns out I can live with the pick of Pierre.
Sorry for any confusion there...
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| | | 123 | blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Mon, Mar 12, 2007, 16:38
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Mach said he left me a queue and then he... left. And there's no queue. Hope he checks back.
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| | | 125 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Mar 12, 2007, 16:56
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Philsphan - Pierre was showing up in your queue, so I picked him for you. If you don't want your queue used, you have to turn it off (i.e., unavailable).
If you had raised the issue before the next pick was made, I might have allowed a reversal. But once we moved on, it's got to stand.
Everyone else, be forewarned - if your queue is marked "available" when it is your turn to pick, I will see it even if you have no designated pickers specified. If it's your turn and a queue is there, I will pick from it unless you have posted alternate instructions here (per my instructions in the opening post).
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| | | 126 | Philsphan
Donor
ID: 301442416
Mon, Mar 12, 2007, 17:08
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Guru,
Understood. Leaving my queue on was my mistake and I should have turned it off. No one else to blame but myself, but I am fine with the pick. No complaints.
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| | | 127 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 15023167
Mon, Mar 12, 2007, 17:41
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Trip, [RE: 116], I noticed you have your Yahoo account set as both your primary and secondary email addresses. Yahoo may be marking it as Spam because you're receiving two exact emails at the exact same time that were sent at the exact same time. Nothing else screams, "SPAM!" to an email server like all that exactness.
Try removing or setting a different secondary email and see if that helps.
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| | | 128 | Athletics Guy
ID: 470481017
Mon, Mar 12, 2007, 20:42
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Doh! I just realized that in addition to creating a queue, I had to also set it to Available. Sorry for slowing down the draft guys.
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| | | 129 | StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Mon, Mar 12, 2007, 21:11
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Sorry I messed up the placeholders by putting the wrong draft picks in there. I deleted the extra placeholder left over since philsphan's rationales are in a single post.
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| | | 131 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Mar 12, 2007, 21:48
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I may be interested in trading up from 7.12 to anywhere in the 7.06-7.11, swapping 7th and 8th rounders. Let me know if any of you have an interest.
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| | | 132 | Flying Polack
Sustainer
ID: 378582811
Mon, Mar 12, 2007, 21:53
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Guru, I'm willing to deal.
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| | | 133 | Flying Polack
Sustainer
ID: 378582811
Mon, Mar 12, 2007, 22:11
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Guru, I sent you an e-mail. I'll wait another 10 minutes or so and then pick if you aren't interested in 7.06.
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| | | 135 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Mar 12, 2007, 22:16
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First trade:
Flying Polack gets 7.12 and 8.05
Guru gets 7.06 and 8.11
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| | | 136 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Mar 12, 2007, 22:19
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I figured the draft grid needed some color.
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| | | 137 | Peter N.
ID: 16222119
Mon, Mar 12, 2007, 22:20
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AHHH! I had a bad feeling when guru said he wanted to trade up. Lopez was going to be my next pick! Damnit
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| | | 138 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Mar 12, 2007, 22:20
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Flying Polack - please post your rationale (or a placeholder) for 5.06. I know it's easy to forget that when a trade upsets the normal flow.
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| | | 139 | StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Mon, Mar 12, 2007, 23:20
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I'm guessing that Lopez shows up in green because he has the green light to run ;-)
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| | | 140 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Mar 12, 2007, 23:40
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He'll get the green light from me!
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| | | 141 | blue hen
ID: 472431014
Mon, Mar 12, 2007, 23:50
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Smart, Guru. Interestingly, there was a trade on the table a couple rounds ago that would have given me 7.03, and I would have taken either Lopez or Weeks. But well played.
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| | | 145 | Bags @ Destin
ID: 59250119
Tue, Mar 13, 2007, 09:58
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I have my 8th round pick ready in my queue. I'm not sure what I want to do for my 9th round. I have a few ideas, I just need someone to give me a call.
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| | | 146 | Trip
Leader
ID: 13961611
Tue, Mar 13, 2007, 10:17
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Bags, where are you staying? My brother works down there.
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| | | 147 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Mar 13, 2007, 12:12
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I picked from JTSERB's queue for 7.15, but it's empty for 8.02.
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| | | 148 | StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Tue, Mar 13, 2007, 12:14
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I posted jtserb's rationale for 5.15 as I'm pretty sure his pick was made from a queue. I'm posting this so I don't forget to change my handle back :)
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| | | 149 | blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Tue, Mar 13, 2007, 13:23
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Nice one, StLCards.
I noticed that filthy took two Canadian closers. Too bad the guy after him took Thomas...
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| | | 151 | blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Tue, Mar 13, 2007, 18:37
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If I come due up tonight, send email to this address and tell me who has gone since Adrian Gonzalez. I will have my blackberry and my cheat sheets.
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| | | 152 | Trip
Leader
ID: 13961611
Tue, Mar 13, 2007, 18:38
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I'll be back in an hour. If anyone wants to swap 9th and 10th round picks, let me know.
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| | | 153 | Athletics Guy
ID: 281162612
Tue, Mar 13, 2007, 19:23
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I knew bh was going to do that to me! And to top it off, Burrell went too.
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| | | 156 | StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Tue, Mar 13, 2007, 23:34
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Talk about some bad timing. Between leaving work, kids appointments, and homework I ended up with 2 rushed picks. Oh well, I'm not sure I would have come up with much else had I dwelled over it another 10 hours anyway. Seems like every time it is my turn to pick I actually need 6 picks and all I have is 2!
Hope the rest of you are as frustrated as I am!
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| | | 157 | Philsphan
Donor
ID: 301442416
Tue, Mar 13, 2007, 23:38
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Absolutely.
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| | | 159 | Peter N.
ID: 56237138
Tue, Mar 13, 2007, 23:43
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I'm listed as a designated picker for blue hen, but his queue appears to be empty. Hopefully he shows up soon.
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| | | 161 | StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Wed, Mar 14, 2007, 00:06
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Certainly making a bad pick in the 9th round won't kill a draft by itself, but I suddenly remember what my latest plans were. Not following them is likely to be very costly. Or maybe it will turn out to be one of those things that works out for the better. Hard to know!
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| | | 162 | blue hen
ID: 2211180
Wed, Mar 14, 2007, 00:39
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Here now. Picking soon.
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| | | 163 | blue hen
ID: 2211180
Wed, Mar 14, 2007, 00:56
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Done. Bob Wickman. It's late, isn't it?
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| | | 164 | blue hen
ID: 2211180
Wed, Mar 14, 2007, 01:01
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I will get caught up on rationales tomorrow.
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| | | 166 | holt
ID: 590581711
Wed, Mar 14, 2007, 07:14
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I also have a couple of rationales due - no time atm but I'll get them done asap.
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| | | 168 | blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Wed, Mar 14, 2007, 09:12
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Tosh, I wanted Lopez too. I think that's why Guru moved up - he saw the need.
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| | | 170 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Mar 14, 2007, 09:21
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It seemed obvious to be that several teams would be likely to snag Lopez, which I why I approached Trip, then Dave R, then Flying Polack about trading up. It still was a tough decision, because I can't fit in 3 shortstops, espec. with Hafner plugging my Util spot. If I didn't expect him to get 2B elig quickly, I would have skipped him.
As it turns out, trading up didn't hurt me, as Burrell was pretty much the guy I had targeted in the next round, and I got him anyway.
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| | | 171 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 15023167
Wed, Mar 14, 2007, 09:31
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Guru, email sent regarding two topics. Just wanted to give you a heads up in case of Spam filters.
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| | | 172 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Mar 14, 2007, 10:51
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KKB said he would leave a queue, but it's empty. Maybe he doesn't understand how the system works!
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| | | 173 | StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Wed, Mar 14, 2007, 10:58
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LOL!
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| | | 174 | Building 7
ID: 571192610
Wed, Mar 14, 2007, 10:59
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Maybe it was a one man queue with Joe Borowski.
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| | | 175 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 15023167
Wed, Mar 14, 2007, 11:08
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Nice one! I was actually waiting on that reply before taking a SS. :)
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| | | 176 | Bags @ Destin
ID: 59250119
Wed, Mar 14, 2007, 11:38
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Queue is set for rounds 10 & 11. I need a phone call for my 11th rounder, my pick will depend on what happens in the 10th.
Trip - We are staying at the Magestic Sun Condos. I am jelous of your brother, this place is a slice of heaven.
Thanks all the help.
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| | | 183 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Mar 14, 2007, 17:17
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Just a heads up - I'll be out from about 7-10 this evening.
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| | | 184 | Trip
Leader
ID: 13961611
Wed, Mar 14, 2007, 17:29
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Please select Chris Young, OF, ARI for me.
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| | | 185 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Mar 14, 2007, 17:39
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I'd rather not. I was planning to take him with my next pick.
But, OK....
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| | | 186 | blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Wed, Mar 14, 2007, 17:44
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A night out for the Guru! Are you going to the Elbow Room or Rookies in Cromwell?
Young was the last player on the first page of my cheatsheet. I am officially onto page 2.
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| | | 187 | filthy
ID: 13201414
Wed, Mar 14, 2007, 18:03
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I should mention that I'm a West Coaster so if anyone ever wants to make me a DP before they go to bed, feel free.
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| | | 188 | Flying Polack
Sustainer
ID: 378582811
Wed, Mar 14, 2007, 20:27
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You wouldn't have had the chance Guru, he was mine!!!! Dangit Trip, you have no idea how close I was to taking Young instead of the Unit.
Anyone interested in exchanging 11th and 12th round picks? I'm on break from my class right now, send me an e-mail or post here if you're interested. I should be available again in about an hour.
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| | | 190 | blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Thu, Mar 15, 2007, 10:20
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My short list was Martin, Magglio, Quentin, OCabrera, Markakis, Johjima. All gone. I hate you guys.
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| | | 192 | Bags @ Destin
ID: 59250119
Thu, Mar 15, 2007, 11:00
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I think I have enough players to last for two rounds. Go ahead and draft the player at the top of the list. If for some reason my queue is empty give me a call.
Thanks.
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| | | 193 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 15023167
Thu, Mar 15, 2007, 11:36
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Somehow I knew Quentin and Markakis were on bh's radar.
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| | | 194 | blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Thu, Mar 15, 2007, 14:13
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Why's that?
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| | | 195 | StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Thu, Mar 15, 2007, 14:21
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probably because they were on everybody's radar :)
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| | | 196 | blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Thu, Mar 15, 2007, 14:37
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Rotowire had Quentin really high, but I wasn't totally sold.
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| | | 197 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 15023167
Thu, Mar 15, 2007, 14:57
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Regardless of Rotowire, I just figured they're your kind of guys. Remember, I've seen you draft for this league before. ;)
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| | | 201 | StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Thu, Mar 15, 2007, 17:08
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Now that he has "finally" been picked, what the heck is wrong with Eric Chavez to cause him to fall so far? I haven't even seen him mentioned as an option in rationales. I was starting to think he was going to make it back to me. I know he had an awful year and is an injury risk, but I really never expected he'd go so low based on his potential. Is he still hurt or something?
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| | | 202 | blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Thu, Mar 15, 2007, 17:29
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There are two reasons...
1. He doesn't walk enough to be very valuable in RIBC. His power can't overcome that either. Simply put, his statistical value in this league just isn't very high.
2. There are a LOT of third basemen out there. Starting with ARod and Cabrera, it just keeps going and going. Let's look at a sampling: Atkins, Wright, Rolen, Glaus, Zimmerman, Teahen, Gordon, Youkilis, Beltre, Blalock, Encarnacion, Mora, Tracy, and even my two guys, Chipper and Ensberg. Quite simply, peolpe just don't need third basemen, and there is no reason to reach for Chavez when all these other options are around.
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| | | 203 | holt
ID: 590581711
Thu, Mar 15, 2007, 18:06
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Wickman, RP, ATL
... sucks. And he's fat.
LOL
fwiw, rototimes has Chavez projected at .372/.479.
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| | | 204 | blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Thu, Mar 15, 2007, 18:19
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Rotowire has Chavez at .354/.458. I'm not sure how they think he'll get to .372 - he's only been over .355 once in his entire career. He doesn't steal and his runs and RBIs aren't especially awesome.
I've had him a lot of times over the years, including my main keeper league (where this year he cedes his spot to Atkins), and he just doesn't get it done.
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| | | 205 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Mar 15, 2007, 18:23
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Actually, I do think Chavez walks a pretty fair amount. His OBP is often 90-100 points above his BA. But his BA isn't that great. Only .241 last year. Still, I think he has more value in an OBP league than in a BA league.
I think the biggest issue is the number of comparable or better options at 3B, vs. a guy whose last two years were both worse than his career numbers. He's only 29, but the recent trend has not been favorable.
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| | | 206 | blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Thu, Mar 15, 2007, 18:54
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Amidst all this, it's worth pointing out that Chavez is a good pick at this point in the draft. I'd have considered him if I didn't already have two players at his position. Which goes to Guru's point again.
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| | | 207 | holt
ID: 590581711
Thu, Mar 15, 2007, 19:02
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yeah, I think he was the best 3b remaining by a fair margin, but I do remember a time where it seemed he was rising to the top of the 3b ranks.
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| | | 208 | blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Thu, Mar 15, 2007, 19:05
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Mach has a queue available to me and no message in the forum. Picking in 5 mins.
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| | | 209 | blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Thu, Mar 15, 2007, 19:12
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Picked Patterson for him.
I'll be out and about tonight, so if I'm up, send me an email to the address from earlier in this thread and tell me who went.
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| | | 210 | blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Thu, Mar 15, 2007, 19:13
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Picked Patterson for him.
I'll be out and about tonight, so if I'm up, send me an email to the address from earlier in this thread and tell me who went.
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| | | 211 | Trip
Leader
ID: 13961611
Thu, Mar 15, 2007, 19:15
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Sorry, I don't have time to fill in all those placeholder right now.
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| | | 212 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Mar 15, 2007, 19:37
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Gentlemen:
[rant]
For the second time today, I just had to fill in 8 consecutive placeholders. In this last series, two of you had even posted your rationale in this thread when only one or two placeholders would have been needed.
If everyone posts either a rationale or a placeholder on time, then keeping up becomes rather simple. But when we get so many successive skips, it becomes a major ordeal for whoever gets stuck (usually me).
Please do your best to keep up.
And if you are picking from someone's queue, please consider posting a placeholder at the same time.
[/rant]
(BTW, I'm not berating Trip here - I'm berating the situation that Trip found himself in - pressed for time and 7 placeholders due.)
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| | | 213 | StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Thu, Mar 15, 2007, 19:45
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It's not my turn to pick yet and I have a 3 player queue set with athletics guy as the dp. I am going to post my rationale here for my next pick as I won't be checking in for awhile.
hope this is OK
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| | | 215 | Peter N.
ID: 42242140
Thu, Mar 15, 2007, 19:49
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I was also surprised that Chavez fell so far. I'll explain in my rationale why I took him, but I feel very good about the value I'm getting for this pick at this point in the draft.
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| | | 216 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 354152921
Thu, Mar 15, 2007, 19:59
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I had considered Chavez around my last couple of picks, but this little bit from Rotowire made me look elsewhere...
"Chavez admitted that his forearm and hamstring injuries lingered throughout the winter, but he feels confident that he'll be better suited to cope with the injuries should they crop up again this season according to the team's web site."
As Rotowire points out, it seems that Chavez has resigned himself to battling injuries at some point during the season.
That said, had he still been around in Round 13, I probably would have risked the pick.
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| | | 217 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 354152921
Thu, Mar 15, 2007, 20:16
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Whoops. Just realized I continued Round 11 rationales in the 6-10 thread. Sorry about that Dave.
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| | | 218 | Trip
Leader
ID: 13961611
Thu, Mar 15, 2007, 20:33
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I took the liberty.
Rounds 11-15
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| | | 219 | Trip
Leader
ID: 13961611
Thu, Mar 15, 2007, 20:36
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lol...sry guru
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| | | 222 | Trip
Leader
ID: 13961611
Thu, Mar 15, 2007, 21:06
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10.01, Corey Patterson, OF, CHC
Second weakness addressed this time around is steals. Corey Patterson should be among the league leaders in steals if he doesn't revert back to his Cubs form.
Looks like he has reverted.
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| | | 225 | holt
ID: 590581711
Fri, Mar 16, 2007, 01:49
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that was a low-down dirty pick BH. I had broxton pegged for this rd, but only because I have saito. a guy who is currently a set-up man seems like a reach in the 13th rd.
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| | | 228 | StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Fri, Mar 16, 2007, 08:59
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You guys are no fun to draft with at all! Can't even let me have a sleeper? C'mon, play nice ;-)
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| | | 229 | blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Fri, Mar 16, 2007, 10:05
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Awesome. Good thing I'm taking picks away from Holt and StLCards, because we all really need the help to catch them.
As for Broxton, I have him currently as my #3 reliever, after Zumaya and Otsuka. First of all, he's young and good. Second of all, Saito is old, plus the league will make some adjustments against him this year. Broxton is the clear #2 and I am pretty confident he'll get at least 10 saves this year. If he gets more, I will clearly move up a few spots in the standings. If he gets less, he still helps in other categories. Hardly a reach one pick after Mike Gonzalez.
That said, he's still very tradeable. Is Sizemore available?
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| | | 230 | holt
ID: 590581711
Fri, Mar 16, 2007, 13:49
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it was just totally unexpected. I thought for sure I'd get him at 13:10, a couple rds before anyone would go after top set-up men. thought I was going the safe route with him, but that's the way it goes. miscalculation. the bad part was that instead of just typing Broxton and going to bed I had to research a bunch of players.
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| | | 231 | holt
ID: 590581711
Fri, Mar 16, 2007, 13:52
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lol, now I see Tosh took I-Rod, the top guy on my queue. this isn't so bad though. I didn't really want a catcher anyway.
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| | | 232 | blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Fri, Mar 16, 2007, 13:54
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Yeah. Let me point you to a couple second basemen who went about 8 rounds too early.
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| | | 233 | holt
ID: 590581711
Fri, Mar 16, 2007, 14:03
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nah, it was an ok pick in my opinion. I'm just sour because taking Saito also required me to handcuff him, and I thought I planned for it properly.
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| | | 235 | blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Fri, Mar 16, 2007, 14:26
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I talked to Bags and picked Weathers for him. Please DO NOT take from his queue for round 15.
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| | | 237 | blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Fri, Mar 16, 2007, 14:31
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Holt, you're dead on about the doofus thing. No Royals on my team (yet). I did pick a Pirate in the second round, however.
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| | | 238 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Mar 16, 2007, 15:28
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Here's a list of missing rationales through pick 12.10:
JTSERB:
6.02 C.C. Sabathia
7.15 Adam LaRoche
8.02 Frank Thomas
9.15 A.J. Burnett
10.02 Tadahito Iguchi
11.15 Kenji Johjima, C, SEA
12.02 Magglio Ordonez, OF, DET
Holt:
10.07 Marcus Giles, 2B, SDG
11.10 Adam Wainwright, SP, STL
12.07 Nomar Garciaparra, 1B, LAD
Bags:
5.07 Bill Hall, SS, MIL
11.07 Rich Hill, SP, CHC
12.10 Chad Tracy, 3B, ARI
Athletics Guy:
11.03 Chris Capuano, SP, MIL
Filthy:
11.16 Placido Polanco, 2B, DET
12.01 Melvin Mora, 3B, BAL
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| | | 239 | Dave R
SuperDude
ID: 3010361110
Fri, Mar 16, 2007, 15:40
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Wow. How did Trip's and my pick in round 14 get recorded at the same time. By the time my page reset after I picked, he had picked.
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| | | 240 | Philsphan
Donor
ID: 301442416
Fri, Mar 16, 2007, 15:45
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Dave R
He had me as his DP and the timing was right...
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| | | 244 | Trip
Leader
ID: 13961611
Fri, Mar 16, 2007, 16:49
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I did not want to draft Kearns...anyone interested in him?
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| | | 246 | Trip
Leader
ID: 13961611
Fri, Mar 16, 2007, 17:06
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Anyone want Kearns?
Anyhow, I can live with him, he was on my queue 32 picks ago so I should be happy.
I'm headed home - via daycare, I believe my queue is now empty, but DO NOT use it if it isn't. Hopefully I will have offers in my inbox when I check back in.
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| | | 249 | StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Fri, Mar 16, 2007, 18:51
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Always seems to be my turn to pick right as I'm wanting to leave work.
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| | | 250 | Trip
Leader
ID: 13961611
Fri, Mar 16, 2007, 19:06
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Would it be possible for me to drop Kearns and reselect before my next pick?
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| | | 251 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Mar 16, 2007, 19:08
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No. If you had asked for that before the next pick had been made, I would have considered it. But not after 5 other picks have already been made.
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| | | 252 | Trip
Leader
ID: 13961611
Fri, Mar 16, 2007, 19:14
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I had said that I did not want Kearns before any other pick was made.
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| | | 253 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Mar 16, 2007, 19:19
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By the time I saw that post, you had also already said you could live with him. You never asked to have the pick reversed - until five other picks had been made.
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| | | 254 | Trip
Leader
ID: 13961611
Fri, Mar 16, 2007, 20:12
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Anyone who wants Kearns, he's yours for a draft pick.
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| | | 255 | Peter N.
ID: 5027160
Fri, Mar 16, 2007, 20:15
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Trip, you've got e-mail.
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| | | 256 | Peter N.
ID: 5027160
Fri, Mar 16, 2007, 20:22
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Trip and I have come to an agreement on a trade. I send him my 15th round pick in exchange for Austin Kearns. Trip to confirm.
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| | | 257 | Trip
Leader
ID: 13961611
Fri, Mar 16, 2007, 20:22
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I have traded Kearns to PeterN for his next draft pick (15.08).
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| | | 258 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Mar 16, 2007, 20:33
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Glad it worked out. I'll process the trade.
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| | | 259 | Bags on the road
ID: 59250119
Fri, Mar 16, 2007, 20:47
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I am here and can make my pick when it gets to me.
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| | | 260 | JTSERB
ID: 312231116
Fri, Mar 16, 2007, 22:01
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I apologize to guru and the rest of the league for my promptness of my rationales (or lack thereof). I have been really busy and have been using q's for all my picks so its hard for me to write a rationale right away. I will make some time tomorrow to get caught up though. Thanks for you patience
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| | | 262 | blue hen
ID: 472431014
Fri, Mar 16, 2007, 22:24
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I am interested in trading down with someone below me, my 15&16 for your 15&16. I will wait a few minutes to see if there are any takers.
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| | | 263 | blue hen
ID: 472431014
Fri, Mar 16, 2007, 23:02
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Ok no offers to my liking. Picking now.
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| | | 267 | Bags on the road
ID: 59250119
Sat, Mar 17, 2007, 01:55
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My queue is set for round 16 only. I should be home early Saturday evening.
You can give me a call if my time is running out.
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| | | 268 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 354152921
Sat, Mar 17, 2007, 08:25
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Dave, email sent and queue on.
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| | | 269 | StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Sat, Mar 17, 2007, 11:03
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ugh, I'm plotting my revenge on kkb starting right now.
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| | | 271 | blue hen
ID: 472431014
Sat, Mar 17, 2007, 20:07
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Haha, Trip called someone "undrafted" in the rationale thread (former Rockies catcher). I don't think there's much worry that anyone is going to draft him this year.
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| | | 274 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 354152921
Sat, Mar 17, 2007, 22:27
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Dave, any interest in trading Shealy? In my email, I said grab a 3B, but I meant to say CI, which would have been Shealy. Clearly, my bad, but name your price, if you wish.
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| | | 275 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sat, Mar 17, 2007, 22:34
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Probably not, but I'll think about it.
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| | | 276 | Trip
Leader
ID: 13961611
Sun, Mar 18, 2007, 01:00
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BH, if you can do so without naming a certain Rockies catcher, where would you place Iannetta?
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| | | 277 | Dave R
SuperDude
ID: 3010361110
Sun, Mar 18, 2007, 10:10
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Trip, stop taking the top players on my queue.....
:(
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| | | 281 | blue hen
ID: 472431014
Sun, Mar 18, 2007, 12:47
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Ianetta's a good sleeper. I had the best catcher in baseball last year, so this year I am trying to have the worst.
Incidentally, I was deciding between Tulowitzki, Maddux, and Tankersley for my pick in round 17. At least I appear to have been looking at the right guys.
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| | | 284 | filthy
ID: 172581511
Sun, Mar 18, 2007, 15:12
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What is the procedure if the guy I am eyeing is not on Kafenatid player list?
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| | | 285 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sun, Mar 18, 2007, 15:15
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I think you can enter the name free-form. If that doesn't work, then post his name here, and I'll figure it out.
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| | | 288 | filthy
ID: 172581511
Sun, Mar 18, 2007, 15:39
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thanks KKB, still couldnt find the guy so I sent the player request.
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| | | 290 | Flying Polack
Sustainer
ID: 378582811
Sun, Mar 18, 2007, 19:15
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I'm not sure if I'm supposed to play good samaritan or not, but filthy, Mike Sweeney isn't eligible at 1B in Yahoo!. Only Utility.
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| | | 292 | blue hen
ID: 472431014
Sun, Mar 18, 2007, 21:52
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Ha! Tosh wrote a rationale for Ty Willingham. Is he the left fielder for the Marlins, the third baseman for the Devil Rays or the football coach?
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| | | 295 | filthy
ID: 370396
Mon, Mar 19, 2007, 05:16
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290- I thought I entered him as DH, but either way I did know, and he'll prob get hurt in april anyways so it won't matter.
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| | | 296 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 15023167
Mon, Mar 19, 2007, 08:40
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filthy, if you care to, you can change his position. No difference to me, but might be helpful for you while reviewing your team.
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| | | 297 | Bags
ID: 2500120
Mon, Mar 19, 2007, 08:46
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I have a queue ready for round 19 only. I won't be around for round 19 but will be here for round 20.
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| | | 298 | Philsphan
Donor
ID: 301442416
Mon, Mar 19, 2007, 08:50
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Sorry for the delay guys. I will pick within the next 15 mins. or so.
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| | | 299 | StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Mon, Mar 19, 2007, 09:32
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With pick 19.02 I want to pick
19.02 Dustin Hermanson, RP, CIN
He is not listed in the player list.
Thanks
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| | | 300 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Mar 19, 2007, 09:49
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I assigned you Keith Foulke as a placeholder. I'll make the change when Hermanson is added.
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| | | 301 | blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Mon, Mar 19, 2007, 09:50
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I noticed StLCards took the retired Foulke in Hermanson's spot. Correct move. I requested Hermanson be added, but Guru or KKB will have to make the actual change.
I am also picking for Mach from his queue.
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| | | 302 | blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Mon, Mar 19, 2007, 09:51
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Also, Trip and I are trading our 19s and 20s.
Trip gets:
19.9 and 20.8
BH gets;
19.4 and 20.13
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| | | 303 | StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Mon, Mar 19, 2007, 09:53
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Thanks Guru, I thought that was the proper protocol but wasn't sure. I did send a request that he be added, but it said that could take up to 24 hours.
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| | | 304 | blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Mon, Mar 19, 2007, 09:55
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Trip, please confirm the trade. Also, I sent you an email but my mail client is screwy so I might've sent it up to four times.
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| | | 305 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Mar 19, 2007, 09:56
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While on the topic, can I have some more suggestions for other inactive players (retired, completely injured, overseas, etc.) to use as placeholders?
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| | | 306 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Mar 19, 2007, 09:57
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[302] - I'll process the trade momentarily...
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| | | 307 | StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Mon, Mar 19, 2007, 09:58
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Josh Kinney and Chris Benson are 2
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| | | 308 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Mar 19, 2007, 09:58
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I guess I should wait a few minutes for Trip to make it official.
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| | | 309 | StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Mon, Mar 19, 2007, 09:59
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or Kris Benson ;)
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| | | 310 | blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Mon, Mar 19, 2007, 10:00
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Trip sent his email of agreement at 5:30 this morning. So it might be awhile before he is able to post here.
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| | | 311 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Mar 19, 2007, 10:01
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Can you forward his email agreement to me? That will suffice.
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| | | 312 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Mar 19, 2007, 10:05
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BTW, while I'm waiting for that, ...
We're moving along very nicely. We are currently averaging 59 minutes per pick, inclusive of pause time. That puts us on pace to finish the draft this coming Saturday.
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| | | 313 | blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Mon, Mar 19, 2007, 10:06
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Sent.
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| | | 314 | Trip
Leader
ID: 13961611
Mon, Mar 19, 2007, 10:08
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I confirm.
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| | | 315 | blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Mon, Mar 19, 2007, 10:09
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Cool. When do you sleep?
And sorry Dave R. I hope this guy wasn't on your queue. Or at least that you don't have anger management issues and know my address.
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| | | 316 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Mar 19, 2007, 10:10
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Trade processed.
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| | | 317 | Trip
Leader
ID: 13961611
Mon, Mar 19, 2007, 10:12
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I replied at 7:50 not 5:30...Yahoo is stamping my emails with PST. I am CST.
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| | | 319 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 15023167
Mon, Mar 19, 2007, 10:47
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Player added and pick updated.
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| | | 320 | Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Mon, Mar 19, 2007, 11:45
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292 - Ha! Tosh wrote a rationale for Ty Willingham. Is he the left fielder for the Marlins, the third baseman for the Devil Rays or the football coach?
LOL. I knew that Willingham was wrong as soon as I typed it. And then forgot to edit it.
I've got to stop listening to Seattle sports talk radio before I write my rationales. I guess that means I was writing about the football coach
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| | | 322 | Bags
ID: 2500120
Mon, Mar 19, 2007, 13:51
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I am here and will make my pick.
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| | | 323 | Trip
Leader
ID: 13961611
Mon, Mar 19, 2007, 14:28
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Someone please select 19.09 - Matt Lindstrom, RP, FL for me (from BlueHen).
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| | | 324 | blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Mon, Mar 19, 2007, 14:41
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Incidentally, the first [undrafted] in my Tankersley rationale is Lindstrom. The second remains undrafted.
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| | | 328 | Flying Polack
Sustainer
ID: 378582811
Mon, Mar 19, 2007, 22:25
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Queue set, please use for Round 20 only. Thank you.
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| | | 329 | Bags
ID: 2500120
Tue, Mar 20, 2007, 00:32
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Does anyone have the final rankings in each catagory for the RIBC from 2006?
This is an example that I am looking for.
Rank SV
1 113
2 98
3 94
4 89
5 87
6 87
etc...
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| | | 330 | StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Tue, Mar 20, 2007, 00:33
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go to the blurbs page and click on the ribc link from 2006
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| | | 332 | Bags
ID: 2500120
Tue, Mar 20, 2007, 00:54
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Thank you!
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| | | 333 | Bags
ID: 2500120
Tue, Mar 20, 2007, 06:25
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My queue is set for round 21. I will be back to pick again for round 22.
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| | | 338 | Trip
Leader
ID: 13961611
Tue, Mar 20, 2007, 17:14
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Please select 22.13 - Kyle Farnsworth, RP, NYY for me.
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| | | 339 | blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Tue, Mar 20, 2007, 18:33
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If I come up tonight, email me at this address and tell me all the picks since Farnsworth.
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| | | 344 | Peter N.
ID: 490381517
Tue, Mar 20, 2007, 20:40
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I'll be at the library the next couple hours studying for a test. I've set up a 4-man queue and made stlcards, guru and bh designated pickers. This queue is for my 23rd round pick only. I'm sure I'll be back before it'd roll around to me in the 24th anyway, but just wanted to clarify
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| | | 346 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 15023167
Wed, Mar 21, 2007, 11:45
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If anybody wants to trade down, email me through the Kafenatid.net feedback form. I'll be out for lunch, but will be back around 1-ish, so give me time to get the request if you send one.
Looking to trade 23/24 for 23/24.
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| | | 347 | Peter N.
ID: 490381517
Wed, Mar 21, 2007, 12:10
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My 4-queue is still set, but again, only for the 23rd round. I'll be out of pocket till around 4:00pm CST.
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| | | 349 | blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Wed, Mar 21, 2007, 14:28
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Waiting for bags because he posted like 2 hrs ago. He has a player in his queue.
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| | | 350 | blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Wed, Mar 21, 2007, 14:28
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Or not. Someone picked for him. I picked for PeterN.
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| | | 351 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Mar 21, 2007, 14:49
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We're now down to the final 10% of the picks...
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| | | 352 | blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Wed, Mar 21, 2007, 15:01
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Ugh. Only 90 percent? Feels like we've been drafting since 1989. Oh wait - I just drafted Luis Gonzalez? Maybe that explains it.
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| | | 353 | Philsphan
Donor
ID: 301442416
Wed, Mar 21, 2007, 15:05
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Flying Polack,
Re: your 21.06 rationale: Neither Inge nor Lowell were on my radar when I picked 18 and 19. I needed a CI, but I also needed an MI and OF too, and I thought they were the more pressing needs since I had Giambi and Cuddyer as MI's already.
And I believe you picked Inge (20.11) before I picked Lowell (21.01). And yes, Inge was on my radar, but someone picked him.... ;-)
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| | | 354 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 15023167
Wed, Mar 21, 2007, 15:08
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Flying Polack, are you looking at current information???
21.06 Adam Loewen, SP, Bal
[...]He’s also had a full off season to work with Leo Mazzone and won’t be pitching in the World Baseball Classic.
I'm pretty sure nobody will be pitching in the WBC this year considering the next one is set to take place in 2009.
Better buy a 2007 draft guide quick! ;)
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| | | 355 | Philsphan
Donor
ID: 301442416
Wed, Mar 21, 2007, 15:10
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353
Obviously, Giambi and Cuddyer are CI's, not MI's.
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| | | 356 | Flying Polack
Sustainer
ID: 378582811
Wed, Mar 21, 2007, 15:34
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Re 353: I was saying that I didn't want to pass Inge at 20.11 and take him at 21.06 because you needed a 3B. You ended up taking a 3B, whether you ranked Lowell or Inge higher I didn't know.
Re 354: I know there's no WBC this year :-) I think it hurt a lot of pitchers last season. Not pitching it is a good thing!
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| | | 357 | Philsphan
Donor
ID: 301442416
Wed, Mar 21, 2007, 15:44
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356
Ah, yes I misread it. Too many numbers today... clouding my brain.
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| | | 358 | blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Wed, Mar 21, 2007, 15:46
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Nice, two Betancourts in a row!
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| | | 359 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Mar 21, 2007, 15:48
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I had one of those Betancourts on my short list as well!
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| | | 360 | blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Wed, Mar 21, 2007, 15:51
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Was it a homer pick or a good pick?
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| | | 361 | Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Wed, Mar 21, 2007, 16:00
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One of those Betancourt's was #1 on my queue.
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| | | 362 | Trip
Leader
ID: 13961611
Wed, Mar 21, 2007, 16:28
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I'll be heading to Destin myself shortly for a very long weekend. I'll be setting a queue, but please select only one hitter and one pitcher, but not necessarily in that order.
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| | | 364 | holt
ID: 590581711
Wed, Mar 21, 2007, 17:48
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ugh - sorry about my rationales being behind so far - will catch them up asap. been sick the past few days and I've got zero energy.
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| | | 365 | Peter N.
ID: 490381517
Wed, Mar 21, 2007, 17:52
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2-man queue setup for my 24th round pick. Same designated pickers apply. Thanks!
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| | | 368 | Bags
ID: 2500120
Thu, Mar 22, 2007, 06:17
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My queue is set, use it and let's finish this thing.
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| | | 369 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Mar 22, 2007, 10:32
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You may post your rationales for rounds 24-25 in this thread when you have them ready. Once we complete the draft, they can then easily be copied over in the proper sequence.
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| | | 374 | Dave R
SuperDude
ID: 3010361110
Thu, Mar 22, 2007, 14:38
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So much for grabbing all those closers from Boston,
Papelbon headed back to the pen
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| | | 386 | holt
ID: 590581711
Thu, Mar 22, 2007, 16:12
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22.07 Kiko Calero RP OAK
I've always been a Calero fan. what were the redbirds thinking when they shipped haren and calero to OAK for mulder? wow. Calero is good enough to be a closer somewhere. hope he gets a chance sometime in his career. I just drafted him for good era/whip and good K/9. career numbers: 3.10 era, 1.13 whip, 217K in 197 IP.
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| | | 391 | Flying Polack
Sustainer
ID: 378582811
Thu, Mar 22, 2007, 16:55
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RE 386: They also gave up Daric Barton who is probably the A's #1 prospect. Horrible deal for Walt Jockerty. Just reversing that trade would solve two of their big problems for 2007.
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| | | 392 | holt
ID: 590581711
Thu, Mar 22, 2007, 17:07
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argh, that's right. really makes you scratch your head. I'm pretty sure I read recently that "undrafted" was feeling pain in his arm well before the trade went down. a rotten rotten deal. I shouldn't have mentioned his name earlier - sorry about that.
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| | | 393 | blue hen
ID: 14273110
Thu, Mar 22, 2007, 17:11
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A terrible trade for the Cardinals. But, more importantly, a great trade for Billy Beane. Billy Beane gets the best of Walt Jocketty? What would Buzz Bissinger have to say to that? I'm sick of people riding Beane for... well, anything. He is great and that's all there is to it.
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| | | 395 | StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Thu, Mar 22, 2007, 18:03
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I wouldn't say it was a terrible trade for the Cardinals, more like a trade that didn't work out for the Cardinals. To me there is a difference.
When the trade was made the Cardinals were looking towards the playoffs. Haren barely had his feet wet at the time (6-10 record with about 120IP over 2 years) and the prevailing thought was that a left handed Mulder would be money in the playoffs and Haren, being young and inexperienced, wouldn't be ready for playoff action. Calero was a solid middle reliever and it was tough to see him go. Barton was blocked by up and coming "undrafted" at catcher and Pujols at 1B so where was he going to play anyway?
It's very easy to look back and see how Haren and Calero have progressed and how Mulder didn't live up to expectations, but at the time the trade was made with the intent to "win now" it was pretty hard to fault in my opinion. I never really liked the trade, but I certainly understood why it was made.
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| | | 396 | Building 7
ID: 571192610
Thu, Mar 22, 2007, 18:47
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I'd like to pick Arthur Rhodes RP, Seattle with pick 25.11. But he is not one of the choices in Kafenitid. Can he be added?
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| | | 399 | StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Thu, Mar 22, 2007, 19:12
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Building 7 - I requested that Rhodes be added. In the meantime just pick up Keith Foulke as a place holder and the adjustment can be made later as it was for me in posts #299 and #300.
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| | | 401 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 354152921
Thu, Mar 22, 2007, 22:59
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Rhodes added and updated.
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| | | 403 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Mar 23, 2007, 00:55
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There were six players drafted who are not yet available at Yahoo. I need six players to use as placeholders. So far, I have Foulke, Kris Benson, Josh Kinney, and Glendon Rusch.
Any other suggestions? I need two more - preferably a pitcher and a hitter (although that's not critical).
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| | | 404 | StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Fri, Mar 23, 2007, 01:22
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Davis Romero, RP, TOR
season ending surgery to repair a torn labrum
available in yahoo
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| | | 405 | Building 7
Sustainer
ID: 171572711
Fri, Mar 23, 2007, 09:50
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Thanks for adding Rhodes.
I don't know of anybody. What if you used a real crappy player that no one would want.
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| | | 406 | StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Fri, Mar 23, 2007, 09:55
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How about Liriano?
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| | | 407 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Mar 23, 2007, 10:15
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OK. Here are the six placeholder substitutions I've made at Yahoo:
Dustin Hermanson=>Keith Foulke
Matt Lindstrom=>Kris Benson
Sammy Sosa=>Josh Kinney
Al Reyes=>Glendon Rusch
Adam Miller=>Davis Romero
Arthur Romero=>Francisco Liriano
To preserve your claim on the missing player, you must wait until that player is listed at Yahoo, and then make the substitution. Do not use make a waiver claim to pick up the player, as this will change your waiver priority. Either wait until the player clears waivers, or (if you notice the player is on waivers), ask me to make the direct substitution.
If the substitute player is dropped before the missing player is available, then your priority claim on that player is forfeited.
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| | | 408 | blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Fri, Mar 23, 2007, 10:17
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I disagree. Mulder's 2004 was pretty terrible, overrated due to the 17-8 record. His ERA jumped up more than a run, and his K/9 fell below the marginally acceptable 6.00 level (and has fallen even further since). Haren was pretty lackluster, but probably evened out with Mulder at the time, and was younger and cheaper. Calero and Barton were just gravy.
Moreover, Beane's tactics were spelled out to the world in Moneyball - get young, cheap pitchers that strike guys out. Trade away players whose value is overinflated by high win or save totals. This is exactly the trade you would expect him to make, and it worked out perfectly.
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| | | 409 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Mar 23, 2007, 10:18
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I have entered the draft results at Yahoo. Please review your roster at Yahoo to make sure I haven't goofed. I will wait until Sunday to submit the final draft results and activate the league. At that point, all undrafted players will be on waivers. Waiver priorities will be in the inverse order of the first round of the draft.
To see the draft rosters at Yahoo, use the "Draft Central" link on the main menu bar.
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| | | 410 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Mar 23, 2007, 10:23
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Thanks to everyone for making this a VERY smooth draft. We averaged less than one hour per pick, including pause periods. We completed this draft several days faster than last year's draft.
I'll be cleaning up and finishing up the rationale thread(s) later today. If you have any rationales outstanding, please post them here ASAP.
I'll also be setting up a draft recap thread. You are not required to post your general comments on the draft, but you are encouraged to do so.
I'll also be posting a comparative analysis of all 5 RIBC drafts (including both AAA and both AA drafts). I will wait until those drafts have all been completed, however.
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| | | 411 | Building 7
Sustainer
ID: 171572711
Fri, Mar 23, 2007, 11:08
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Great job, guru. I look forward to the season. I have a couple minor corrections:
I got Boone Logan instead of Nook Logan in round 21. And:
Arthur Romero=>Francisco Liriano..... should be
Arthur Rhodes=>Francisco Liriano
It was a real joy drafting between you and KKB. Thanks for not taking anyone I had my heart set on with the pick right before me.
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| | | 412 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Mar 23, 2007, 11:13
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Corrections noted.
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| | | 415 | StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Fri, Mar 23, 2007, 11:43
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Here are some changes I see:
19.05 (sanfordors) Jose Cruz > Nelson Cruz
22.05 (rotoguru) Justin Germano > Esteban German
21.13 (building 7) Boone Logan > Nook Logan (still shows that)
22.02 (jtserb) Brandon Wood > Kerry Wood
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| | | 416 | Philsphan
Donor
ID: 301442416
Fri, Mar 23, 2007, 12:04
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My team looks good Guru. Thanks for all the work to make this happpen.
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| | | 417 | blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Fri, Mar 23, 2007, 12:13
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Your commissioner must enter your offline draft results and hit the 'Begin Season' button in order for your league to begin play
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| | | 418 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 15023167
Fri, Mar 23, 2007, 13:15
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"I will wait until Sunday to submit the final draft results and activate the league."
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| | | 419 | blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Fri, Mar 23, 2007, 14:16
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Right - how do I check my roster before that?
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| | | 420 | StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Fri, Mar 23, 2007, 14:25
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Draft Central/Draft Results
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| | | 421 | mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Fri, Mar 23, 2007, 15:23
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Guru, Please pardon the interruption, but I need a clarification of the rule on placeholders. In the header of this thread you say:
You may draft a player even if he is not currently listed on Yahoo. In that event, you will have the first rights to claim that player when he is listed, as long as you preserve that roster slot for him.
Once the draft is completed, you will no longer be able to protect a slot for any unlisted player. At that point, unlisted players will only be available through the standard waiver/free agent process.
It was my understanding that you could hold onto those placeholders even after the season began and you would have exclusive right to said player as long as you held those placeholders when Yahoo added the player's name into the data base.
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| | | 422 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Mar 23, 2007, 15:31
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You can hold onto a slot for drafted players only. But you can no longer put in a claim (waiver or otherwise) for players who are not yet listed.
Perhaps I should have said it this way:You may draft a player even if he is not currently listed on Yahoo. In that event, you will have the first rights to claim that player when he is listed, as long as you preserve that roster slot for him. Once the draft is completed, you will no longer be able to protect a slot for any unlisted player who you did not draft. At that point, unlisted players will only be available through the standard waiver/free agent process.
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| | | 423 | mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Fri, Mar 23, 2007, 15:42
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Thank You
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| | | 424 | Dave R
SuperDude
ID: 3010361110
Fri, Mar 23, 2007, 17:09
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24.12 Juan Salas RP Tam
Salas had visa problems and showed up late for spring training, but from what I've read he has as good a chance as any to wind up as Tampa's closer. Maybe not right off the bat, but at some point during the season.
Check out his numbers last year ( arguably in AA and AAA ): sub 1.00 ERA, WHIP .837, and 85 K's in only 63 innings
So what can I expect this year? Not sure, but certainly worth a pick in round 24
25.07 Mark Ellis 2B Oak
I needed a backup MI and Ellis fit the bill. Last year was an off year ( or was the prior season a career year? )
Oft injured, little power, no speed.... hmmm, why did I pick him?
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| | | 425 | Trip
ID: 11250227
Fri, Mar 23, 2007, 18:01
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I will fill in my remaining rationales when I get home on Tuesday.
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| | | 426 | holt
ID: 590581711
Fri, Mar 23, 2007, 18:36
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my team draft is accurate.
great work on everything Guru.
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| | | 427 | filthy
ID: 27224243
Sat, Mar 24, 2007, 17:06
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23.16 Scott Eyre RP CHC
Just filling out the pitching staff here. Eyre isn't too bad, seems fairly reliable with a nice amount of strikeouts. I didn't get a chance to get my Dempster insurance earlier, but I'm sure that there will be times when Dempster creates a jam where a lefty is needed so Eyre might pick me up a couple of bonus wins or saves at some point.
24.01 Damaso Marte RP PIT
Team Marte in full effect now. Damaso will get me some K's and might even snake his way onto the closer scene at some point. Just the K's are good enough for me in round 24.
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| | | 428 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sun, Mar 25, 2007, 18:24
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Draft has been released, and the league is activated. Waiver priorities have been set. All undrafted players are now subjeect to waiver claims.
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| | | 429 | blue hen
ID: 472431014
Sun, Mar 25, 2007, 19:03
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Hey Guru, weren't there 5 outfield slots last year? Looks like there are 4 this year. Or am I thinking of another league?
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| | | 430 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sun, Mar 25, 2007, 19:31
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Must be another league.
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| | | 431 | blue hen
ID: 472431014
Sun, Mar 25, 2007, 20:19
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I see it now - I went back and checked last year's RIBC. Probably works better for me this year, given my outfield issues.
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| | | 432 | StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Tue, Mar 27, 2007, 09:00
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Kind of surprised more people wouldn't share their draft strategies and thoughts about the draft. I know it's not required, but I certainly enjoy reading them and getting more insight into different types of strategies and why picks were made,etc.
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| | | 433 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 15023167
Tue, Mar 27, 2007, 09:10
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Re: 432
Agreed!
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| | | 434 | Flying Polack
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ID: 378582811
Tue, Mar 27, 2007, 09:55
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Mine's coming, I'm just about halfway done right now. I'll get it finished before the week is done.
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| | | 435 | blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Tue, Mar 27, 2007, 16:47
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Good to see Trip's stats. If anyone else has a chart like that, let's see it.
Interesting that I am 12th in K's but 1st (by a lot) in K/IP. You guys better watch out.
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| | | 436 | Philsphan
Donor
ID: 301442416
Tue, Mar 27, 2007, 17:42
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blue hen,
I have a table much like Trip's, but I don't know how to post it here. Any help would be appreciated.
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| | | 437 | filthy
ID: 592552715
Tue, Mar 27, 2007, 18:06
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Still trying to catch up on homework that was overlooked due to the draft... Once that is done, probably during the weekend, I will post a recap.
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| | | 438 | holt
ID: 590581711
Tue, Mar 27, 2007, 18:33
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i'll do a recap as soon as I get time to do it properly - just don't want to half-ass it.
pre-season projections are fun and all, but does it really have any value when teams are making 130 transactions in a season? I can see getting some kind of indicator from the % projections but that's about it.
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| | | 439 | Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Tue, Mar 27, 2007, 18:41
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Outsider's perspective/smartass comment:
Hilarious to see Trip's projections and VORP, attrition, age, etc percentages being so strong for Dave R's team......all while Dave R is about as technically skilled in terms of baseball drafts as Fred Flintstone. Trip's using technology from 25 years in the future while Dave R is, metaphorically, having a bird in the camera carve a picture of Wilma out of stone.
That's not to say Dave doesn't know what he's doing, but outside of a cheatsheet and Rotowire projections as a guide, he's just not that sophisticated (and neither am I). So, that being said - and the point to this - it's amazing how in using some information as a guide, you can still use your own intuition, non-technical skill and experience to arrive at the same result.
See Dave, I'm complimenting you, in a deranged way! ;-)
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| | | 440 | Building 7
ID: 571192610
Tue, Mar 27, 2007, 19:25
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Can somebody elaborate on what these stats are?
VORP Total
Breakout
Improve
Collapse
Attrition
i.e. I Have the highest Collapse at 35.2%. Is that good or bad or what?
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| | | 441 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 354152921
Tue, Mar 27, 2007, 20:28
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Re: 438
I haven't cross-checked the numbers for sure, but a lot of the counting stats seem like they would beat previous RIBC totals by a decent amount.
Long story short: Projecting is fun, but in this league it's all about how you cope with injuries, "off" years, and picking up that diamond in the rough about 3 weeks earlier than you would in any other league.
As always, it'll be fun! :)
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| | | 442 | blue hen
ID: 472431014
Tue, Mar 27, 2007, 20:43
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Exactly. I usually lead the RIBC in four categories - on-base percentage, strikeouts, DL days, and transactions.
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| | | 443 | Trip
Leader
ID: 13961611
Wed, Mar 28, 2007, 08:49
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VORP = Value Over Replacement Player. The number of runs contributed beyond what a replacement-level player at the same position would contribute if given the same percentage of team plate appearances. VORP scores do not consider the quality of a player's defense. In the example I provided, I just summed the VORP for all the players on your team.
Breakout % is the chance that a player will significantly improve on the projected stats.
Improve % is the chance that a player will improve at all.
Collapse % is the chance that a player's performance will decrease significantly from the projected stats.
Attrition % is the chance that a player will miss significant playing time.
That's just the quick and dirty. For more info, check the following link:
BP Glossary
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| | | 444 | Trip
Leader
ID: 13961611
Wed, Mar 28, 2007, 08:54
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Matt Lindstrom is available when he appears in the Yahoo! database. I released him when I dropped Kris Benson.
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| | | 445 | Trip
Leader
ID: 13961611
Wed, Mar 28, 2007, 09:16
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Philsphan, here is how you can post your tables:
There may be an easier way, but this is how I do it.
1 - Save the file as a web page. When you save as a web page, choose to save only the cell area that you want to reproduce, and not the entire sheet. Otherwise, you may get a bunch of blank columns (situated to the right of the table) which force the forum page to widen unnecessarily
2 - Open the web page, select view > source. .
3 - Copy and paste the data into your post, making sure you select Yes on the ignore line feeds button.
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| | | 446 | Philsphan
Donor
ID: 301442416
Wed, Mar 28, 2007, 10:27
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Thanks Trip, I will give that a try as soon as I have a minute...
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| | | 447 | Philsphan
Donor
ID: 301442416
Wed, Mar 28, 2007, 12:18
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Thanks for the help Trip. The tables came out perfect. I can go home and tell my wife I learned something new today...
I agree with others who have qualified draft projection numbers like these. Obviously, that's all they are - projections. But I enjoy putting them together and it gives me some idea how I am doing relative to everyone else in the league.
The other problem here is that my standings, as well as Trip's I'm sure, use all 25 players. That would explain the high counts that KKB is referring to. Usually I just concern myself with the first 21 rounds in that regard.
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| | | 448 | Building 7
Sustainer
ID: 171572711
Wed, Mar 28, 2007, 12:19
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Thanks for the link Mr. Trip. It looks like most of those stats are based on someone's projections. My high collapse rating may turn out to be accurate though as my team is already collapsing with three injuries since the draft ended.
Also, Arhtur Rhodes is available when he appears in the Yahoo! database. I released my rights to him when I dropped Liriano.
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| | | 449 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 15023167
Wed, Mar 28, 2007, 13:42
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Re: 447
Actually, I didn't realize the tables took all 25 players into account. If so, then the standings portion is almost useless. For instance, guys like Hairston and Baker on my team are going to have VERY low projections. But, if I need them, then they're either going to outperform their projections or they'll fill in for the missing stats of the injured player(s).
Unless the bench is ignored, the stats are going to be skewed towards managers who selected 25 players they can use interchangeably.
Further, it would be interesting to know if Trip was still in first place with just 21 players. ;)
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| | | 450 | Trip
Leader
ID: 13961611
Wed, Mar 28, 2007, 14:37
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I actually ran them every three rounds from round 12 on. I had Guru ahead until round 18, at which point AG and DaveR remained in the top 3.
Again, I do realize that no matter which round I run them in, they are still meaningless.
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| | | 451 | StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Wed, Mar 28, 2007, 14:44
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I was monitoring hitter projections for awhile and found mine to be low during the draft. One reason I wasn't as concerned as I could have been is that many of my projections did not account for a 'full' season. So when a guy like Griffey invariably gets hurt, I will plug a different player in his place. So really a projection for Griffey would need to account for X number of ABs from Griffey + Y number of ABs for his replacement.
I was already finding it tedious to just track who picked whom, so I gave it up ;)
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| | | 452 | StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Wed, Mar 28, 2007, 14:56
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I see I wasn't the only one trying to create rankings. I too used a R+RBI+SB metric, and then also tried ((R+RBI+SB) * OPS). I was never really sure if there was any merit in that last metric but it seemed to sort players pretty well.
I also came up with a roto-rank metric where I sorted the projections by category and then assigned a rank to each player. I then totaled all the rankings for each category to get a composite score.
My thinking was that if a player kept rising to the top based on different sort criteria then he was probably worth drafting. Even still I avoided certain players that I didn't trust over a season.
When it came right down to it I tried looking at tiers more than an individual player. Early in the draft I chose from the top of a tier and later I chose the player from the tier I thought was closest to being used up. Late in the draft though I abandoned the 'projections' as there really no good way to project players with limited experience.
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| | | 453 | Philsphan
Donor
ID: 301442416
Wed, Mar 28, 2007, 15:17
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449
I've thought about the 21/25 player thing and the results they imply. If you figure the average "starter" on your team averages 150 games (just throwing a number out there - I don't know what it is) and the max is 162, that leaves you with 12 games at each position to fill in (assuming you max out games). Can we then make the assumption that the 4 bench player numbers can be used to supplement those missing games (12 x 12 = 144 for hitters) to some degree? And if so, then ceratinly some of their projections are valid to include. The question becomes how much.
In the end though, the first trade I make nullifies it all anyway for the most part.
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| | | 454 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 15023167
Wed, Mar 28, 2007, 15:38
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Re: 453
Probably not. I doubt I would use Hairston/Baker unless I absolutely had to. In fact, they probably wouldn't get any PT unless I needed them.
Thus, I'm likely to have different (better?) players filling in my games. Better put: I'm either going to have Quentin or Hairston and Helton or Baker on my team at the end of the season. If I still have all 4, something went massively wrong. In fact, I would better guess that's going to be the case by the end of May.
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About (R + RBI + SB), I'm interested in why it seemed to be used by so many. I tried it on my team just now and it raised more questions than it answered. For instance, my (starting) team, according to strict Rotowire projections has a total of 1981. But, if I replace Carlos Quentin (90 R, 85 RBI, 6 SB) with Juan Pierre (92, 45, 56), I actually gain 12 "points." But, when I take all those projected stats and put my 2007 team in the 2006 standings, my team falls 4 roto-points. So, a gain in (R + RBI + SB) actually hurts me.
Thoughts? I'm mostly interested in how those who used it actually used it so I can see how it might best be valuable.
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| | | 455 | Building 7
Sustainer
ID: 171572711
Wed, Mar 28, 2007, 16:12
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Last year there was one team in our RIBC AAA league with an ERA under 4.00, and 3 in RIBC.
According to these projections, there are 13 and 15 teams expected to do so.
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| | | 456 | Trip
Leader
ID: 13961611
Wed, Mar 28, 2007, 16:13
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The only reason I used it was to dampen the effects the counting stats had on those teams who had a lot of hitters on their bench. I did not use it when ranking players. It probably would be more useful if SB were multiplied by a factor between 7 & 8. ((R+RBI+(SB*X))/AB
When I am making my player list for drafting, I have modified the ESPN player rater calculations posted here. I do this after averaging different sets of projections. Then I break players into positional tiers.
I hardly stand by the rankings after they are spit out, but use them as a sanity check when making selections. I do the projections not to make myself feel good, but to gauge where my team needs the most help and what player profiles I should be targeting.
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| | | 457 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 15023167
Wed, Mar 28, 2007, 16:25
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It probably would be more useful if SB were multiplied by a factor between 7 & 8. ((R+RBI+(SB*X))/AB
But wouldn't that just further exacerbate the undo impact of a Dave Roberts or Juan Pierre?
Clearly, I didn't go after SB much this year so I'm intrigued.
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| | | 458 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 15023167
Wed, Mar 28, 2007, 16:26
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Er, too much computer time today. That should be "undue." :)
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| | | 459 | StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Wed, Mar 28, 2007, 16:45
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I approached it from a point of balance. Some players offer the pure power numbers but won't put up any SBs. Sorting strictly by OPS I was afraid I would miss a viable player in other categories. I absolutely did not want to punt the SB category yet I wanted the SB threat to offer the most in terms of other categories. If I had two similar players that primarily offered SB, then I wanted the one that would help in one or more other categories as well.
I really didn't find it too helpful early on but later in the draft it helped me identify some players I thought were value picks when the pure power hitters were going off the board. I use projections more to remind myself of who all the players are and make sure I'm not missing somebody, but also to look for players I think are under-rated. Some of the players I recall being more prominent were Damon and Cameron and later Francoeur showed up that way. Hard to remember everything now ;)
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| | | 460 | Philsphan
Donor
ID: 301442416
Wed, Mar 28, 2007, 18:32
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I never saw the R+RBI+SB/AB formula until Trip posted it. I just added it to mine to offer any contrast between our projections. I don't quite know what the value of it is yet. It seems to substantiate a team's place in the overall hitter categories at first blush.
I only use the projections to get balance as well in building my team. It's a great tool for me to gauge my standing in each category relative to the other teams, because in the end that is how I will be judged - against the other 15 teams. It is especially helpful in the middle to late rounds where one player may look good or have certain upside, but in the overall scheme he does not help my total team score as much as another player with perhaps lesser numbers (if that makes any sense at all). That's why I was able to make the Pierre pick when I did. It got me into the SB picture somewhat and he did not hurt my ratios too bad becasue he was weighted aginst Pujols, ARamirez and Giambi. It gained more SB standings points for me than I lost in SLG and OBP.
I don't go to the degree Trip does in prioritizing. I get 3-4 sets of projections, making sure to get AB, TB, Walks numbers as well as IP, H, BB's for pitchers, so that my ratios are properly weighted at the team level. Then I look at the averages and make adjustments where I feel the need.
455
You're right. But in 2005, 11 RIBC teams were under 4.00 ERA. I think that is more the norm. I think last year was a real exception because of the WBC and that threw ERA's way out of whack, especially early in the season. I think we'll see pitchers come back more to normal this year. That's why I gambled and got my 4 SP's so early.
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| | | 461 | Flying Polack
Sustainer
ID: 378582811
Wed, Mar 28, 2007, 19:00
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KKB - Too bad you didn't have Hairston in your lineup today.
"Diamondbacks manager Bob Melvin gave Hairston the news he had officially made the team, and he responded by hitting three homers off of Josh Fogg on Tuesday, the Arizona Republic reports."
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| | | 462 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 354152921
Wed, Mar 28, 2007, 22:11
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Re 461
The "problem" is that he probably won't get much PT unless Quentin is out. Of course, that works well for me, but it does make him a bit useless otherwise. He was likely to make the team with Quentin's injury, so that was no matter to me. And he can certainly hit the ball, as evidenced by previous year's stats. He's no 3-HR/night kind of guy, but he would fill in fine for Quentin without a huge dropoff, IMHO, if needed.
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| | | 463 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Mar 30, 2007, 14:03
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I just subbed in Al Reyes, Sammy Sosa, and Dustin Hermanson to their respective teams. Rights to Rhodes and Lindstrom have been relinquished.
As far as I know, the only protected placeholder is now Adam Miller (aka Davis Romero), for Tosh.
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| | | 470 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Apr 09, 2007, 09:19
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spam block
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