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Subject: Rotohog 7/1-7/8 Thread

  Posted by: Bandos - [05292011] Sun, Jul 01, 2007, 13:33
Boating is sure taking a toll on my RV and while I am holding my own, I don't have the time to do in depth research. I am right at 7/G and 4.75/IP but still losing ground.

Question: Does anyone know what "premium prizes" means, when you upgrade?
 
1Bandos
      ID: 05292011
      Sun, Jul 01, 2007, 13:34
ADJ RH WR Team Position Usage Total Points Adj points: 7 + 4.75 Pts behind
1 8 yazmeisters (Imdbcooper) 14 -12 10,300.82 10259.82 0
2 7 High Self-Esteem (jdrenbarger) 26 8 10,390.69 10170.69 -89.13
3 11 Skankin' Owls (mymrbig) 1 -2 10,141.62 10144.12 -115.7
4 10 We Are Borg (RotoGuru) 32 1 10,205.11 9976.36 -283.46
5 20 The Waiver Wire (TheWaiverWireBlog) 0 -28 9,842.29 9975.29 -284.53
6 9 Stumptown Spawning Sturgeons (diffbean) 6 58 10,288.37 9970.87 -288.95
7 26 FenwayCheer4 (FenwayCheer4) -13 -31 9,712.42 9950.67 -309.15
8 21 DA WEINERS (hdk100) 9 -36 9,817.29 9925.29 -334.53
9 17 Endangered Species (Species) 9 -17 9,879.53 9897.28 -362.54
10 14 Apaca1ypse Now... (Apaca1ypse) 6 35 10,077.62 9869.37 -390.45
11 13 Bandos (Bandos) 9 35 10,087.00 9857.75 -402.07
12 18 Sioux Falls Stars (Superstar) 5 -2 9,861.30 9835.8 -424.02
13 59 hellotony (hellotony) -12 -117 9,160.86 9800.61 -459.21
14 31 All-Star Annihilators (Phatnamad) 5 -33 9,649.81 9771.56 -488.26
15 22 StLCards (StLCards) 5 3 9,810.10 9760.85 -498.97
16 80 Taco Wallace (jkloster) -33 -117 8,959.47 9746.22 -513.6
17 24 The Experiment (natefrogbu) -3 17 9,786.58 9726.83 -532.99
18 36 Firdownblers (Firdownble) 13 -59 9,533.37 9722.62 -537.2
19 19 Smoke & Mirrors (mbg81272) 7 30 9,853.19 9661.69 -598.13
20 27 Chico's Bail Bonds (Ender) 22 -22 9,696.11 9646.61 -613.21
21 47 JibJabs (jibjabmraz) -34 -25 9,289.72 9646.47 -613.35
22 16 TEAM ROC (crasyuba21) 35 9 9,915.65 9627.9 -631.92
23 32 procrastinators (samithas) 7 0 9,640.64 9591.64 -668.18
24 23 ACE of CLUBS (Planet29) -5 56 9,798.61 9567.61 -692.21
25 30 Cullman Cats (GCamp13) 6 18 9,664.85 9537.35 -722.47
26 55 Almquist Brothers Inc (almlquist86) 2 -71 9,212.24 9535.49 -724.33
27 38 MoneySchooled.com (ByronWarnken) 2 11 9,496.45 9430.2 -829.62
28 37 Manny's Rodents (manny212) 13 4 9,515.71 9405.71 -854.11
29 69 Skull Krushers (clintrad4) 47 -135 9,068.96 9381.21 -878.61
30 78 Pray For Mojo (sboikess) 14 -102 8,966.98 9353.48 -906.34
31 70 Doylestown Drifters (Music2004Man) -16 -37 9,053.87 9341.62 -918.2
32 41 Pu-Rod and A-Jols (bachsmom) 14 6 9,455.04 9328.54 -931.28
33 79 Buschleaguers (Buschleaguers) -1 -64 8,959.95 9270.95 -988.87
34 51 NJ Psycho-Crazies (djs2012) 13 -19 9,266.15 9265.4 -994.42
35 54 Kaiser SoSay (action256) -13 10 9,218.80 9262.3 -997.52
36 62 Crunch Bunch (crunchbunch) -8 -10 9,134.46 9237.96 -1021.86
37 29 BONDS SUCKS (maxfli1010) 1 97 9,675.79 9208.04 -1051.78
38 50 Can't Beat the Refs (Ref) 23 -21 9,268.50 9207.25 -1052.57
39 64 Peter N. (ttucowboy) 3 -24 9,104.72 9197.72 -1062.1
40 67 Guelph BlastBall (jwang612) 2 -17 9,087.50 9154.25 -1105.57
41 48 Scranton Sluggers (BigBobE) 22 0 9,281.86 9127.86 -1131.96
42 85 MTPockets (joeypar) -21 -14 8,898.46 9111.96 -1147.86
43 68 I'm Rich Byitch!! (rangerxbob) 8 -17 9,074.79 9099.54 -1160.28
44 84 Redlegs (gordonrocks) -16 -14 8,912.17 9090.67 -1169.15
45 56 BDM (dburnidge) 8 20 9,207.30 9056.3 -1203.52
46 93 GoatLocker's Bums (GoatLocker) 1 -63 8,753.10 9045.35 -1214.47
47 66 Tboz Hustlaz (tboz6547) -25 50 9,100.05 9037.55 -1222.27
48 33 Ben's in Charge (barry11753) 5 119 9,633.33 9033.08 -1226.74
49 44 Cheese Smokers (dmachine1) 41 10 9,359.51 9025.01 -1234.81
50 57 Chuck Rules (Chuck) 30 -6 9,201.37 9019.87 -1239.95
51 76 Headhunter (Headhunter) -6 3 8,969.72 8997.47 -1262.35
52 74 Krazys (krazyivan) 5 -1 9,000.88 8970.63 -1289.19
53 40 The Tools of Ignorance (Atlanta1) 54 31 9,456.73 8931.48 -1328.34
54 97 Miles' Maruaders (Maruaders) 2 -44 8,726.71 8921.71 -1338.11
55 61 woodjacks (woodjack) 16 29 9,137.37 8887.62 -1372.2
56 72 ajwo#1 (ajwo) 9 24 9,036.25 8859.25 -1400.57
57 58 KTMoney (ktmoney29) 21 40 9,170.91 8833.91 -1425.91
58 98 DohNuts (DohNuts) -11 -2 8,712.00 8798.5 -1461.32
59 28 Custodians (Custodians) 29 149 9,679.71 8768.96 -1490.86
60 35 Taz Devils (KKCamp) 7 166 9,538.63 8701.13 -1558.69
61 96 ajwo2005 (ajwodecki) -5 13 8,727.86 8701.11 -1558.71
62 1 Loonies (redwag) 41 657 12,099.86 8692.11 -1567.71
63 99 Loco Notions (loconotrae) -2 9 8,700.21 8671.46 -1588.36
64 92 Golden Inc. (heybulldog) 11 2 8,754.14 8667.64 -1592.18
65 73 Lenny Melnick Podcasts Will Help You Out! (DRAFTAHOLIC) -1 93 9,025.72 8590.97 -1668.85
66 63 Sox Fever (Soxrule07) 31 89 9,118.67 8478.92 -1780.9
67 89 firemansmith (firemansmith) 42 27 8,789.12 8366.87 -1892.95
68 25 goislesgo (GoIslesGO) 33 247 9,765.92 8361.67 -1898.15
69 88 slappy knappys (cknappy) 7 93 8,795.74 8304.99 -1954.83
70 60 Detroit Bombers (danguz) 2 193 9,148.19 8217.44 -2042.38
71 46 Cant B Beat (datace) 27 195 9,296.02 8180.77 -2079.05
72 4 CrazyHo (pedroiaCrazy) 2 611 11,094.51 8178.26 -2081.56
73 82 BIANCO (BIANCO) 61 70 8,933.74 8174.24 -2085.58
74 94 Australian Roo Crew (elbourn) 10 111 8,745.53 8148.28 -2111.54
75 2 Headless Thompson Gunners (HeadlessGunners) 33 647 11,330.48 8026.23 -2233.59
76 34 Beerdrinkers (AdvantageSchneider) -15 356 9,578.13 7992.13 -2267.69
77 3 W.orld F.amous (beatfreaks) 27 642 11,124.17 7885.67 -2374.15
78 5 Tornados (phike) 41 649 10,998.68 7628.93 -2630.89
79 86 blackjackis21 (blackjackis21) -160 516 8,882.39 7551.39 -2708.43
80 75 Dtown (davguz) 4 310 8,993.75 7493.25 -2766.57
81 6 Diamond Savant (DiamondMan) 37 640 10,764.81 7465.81 -2794.01
82 53 pachyderms (pachyderms) 15 352 9,231.78 7454.78 -2805.04
83 12 Underdawgs (Ford) 6 577 10,120.81 7338.06 -2921.76
84 39 Bizarre Puppies (ukula) -127 655 9,459.68 7237.43 -3022.39
85 71 Jsarn35 (Mets1835) 22 412 9,041.63 6930.63 -3329.19
86 83 wpb red sox (etc1) 11 412 8,916.54 6882.54 -3377.28
87 87 Yanks525 (Yanks525) -37 487 8,864.04 6809.79 -3450.03
88 15 Maranatha! (LeeYih) 10 652 9,943.28 6776.28 -3483.54
89 45 Gigantula (Gigantula) 30 499 9,348.95 6768.7 -3491.12
90 42 Justplay'n2win (indycolt4life) -9 586 9,450.20 6729.7 -3530.12
91 91 Cincinatti Bowties (cg68) -89 589 8,754.17 6579.42 -3680.4
92 95 TheHaunted (n3rds) -10 480 8,744.55 6534.55 -3725.27
93 52 yankz (slush823823) 12 554 9,238.97 6523.47 -3736.35
94 43 Bad News Bears (cam4128) -10 636 9,427.22 6476.22 -3783.6
95 81 '57 Milwaukee Braves (adadof2) -11 560 8,944.00 6361 -3898.82
96 49 VoteForJoe (tchu125) 14 593 9,269.00 6354.25 -3905.57
97 90 TEAM STASIU (polishprince) -8 537 8,787.64 6292.89 -3966.93
98 65 longgoners (bigdog) 4 596 9,102.63 6243.63 -4016.19
99 77 Eagle State (johnb2311) -39 654 8,968.09 6134.59 -4125.23
100 100 Old Schoolers (OldSchoolers29) -46 658 8,699.09 5895.59 -4364.23
 
2J
      Leader
      ID: 049346417
      Sun, Jul 01, 2007, 13:43 		Andy Pettitte has my attempt at a July monthly off to a nice start

8-0 A's in the 2nd
 
3TacoJohn
      ID: 422551921
      Sun, Jul 01, 2007, 14:07 		I was sure I was gaining ground these past few days. Apparently not.
 
4Crunch Bunch
      ID: 3136114
      Sun, Jul 01, 2007, 14:38 		No Haren for me Today - had some regret initially but it looks like he's having trouble pitching with prosperity. Probably doesn't know what it feels like to pitch with a big lead.

Sold Griffey last night due to the off day tomorrow and of course he homers...
 
5Ender
      ID: 1138421
      Sun, Jul 01, 2007, 16:04 		No Haren for me either.
 
6Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Sun, Jul 01, 2007, 17:20 		Woe is me. More horrible hitters and Kevin Gregg blows the save and will likely lose the game while pitching multiple innings.
 
7donk44
      ID: 563322323
      Sun, Jul 01, 2007, 17:26 		when will they learn not to try to pitch him (Gregg) two innings. had 2 outs in the 9th when he blew it. so instead of getting about 20 points, he is now in line to get around -15. nice 35 point swing on one AB/out he didn't get.
 
8Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Jul 01, 2007, 17:47 		The bad news - I started Haren today. Seemed like a good idea after getting staked to an 8-0 lead, but he ended up with only 11.93 pts in 5.33 IP - thanks to the win.

The good news - by starting Haren, I benched Gregg, who managed -6.64 in 2 IP.

So, the net benefit of starting Haren: +3.33 IP, +18.57 pts. Not particularly good, but at least Haren netted me about 5.5 pts/IP for his extra IP. So the decision wasn't a total waste.

Not as good as yesterday, though, when I started both Sabathia and Sheets, and neither Gregg nor Papelbon pitched, so there was no marginal cost to starting them.
 
9Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Sun, Jul 01, 2007, 18:15 		At least the Marlins came back to tie to avoid the L from Gregg. Then they won it the next inning when a new pitcher was in.

At least the game led into the All-Star selection show. I didn't realize it was on TN this year.
 
10Ender
      ID: 1138421
      Sun, Jul 01, 2007, 18:18 		That would have been fine if I didn't also have Wickman :( There was no escaping the L for me and it came at the expense of more ER. I haven't looked at the final box yet, but it aint going to be pretty.
 
11Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Sun, Jul 01, 2007, 18:24 		Lucky for you that Soriano took the L.
 
12TacoJohn
      ID: 422551921
      Sun, Jul 01, 2007, 19:18 		Anyone else take a shot on Lincecum today? Please say no.
 
13donk44
      ID: 563322323
      Sun, Jul 01, 2007, 21:20 		Re: 12

here's one NO for you TJ
 
14Ender
      ID: 1138421
      Sun, Jul 01, 2007, 23:19 		Only lucky in RH. He's been horrid this week in roto. He's supposed to be HELPing me in ERA and WHIP. Apparently he didn't get the memo.
 
15donk44
      ID: 563322323
      Mon, Jul 02, 2007, 01:56 		And Jose Reyes becomes the 2nd player to hit the $90 ceiling (unless Pujols did briefly ?)

It might take a while for him to get to the point where people won't sell him anymore, just like with ARod. On the other hand, there are so many good shortstops he might never stay locked at $90.

Would be interesting to see what would happen if 5 or 6 top players hit $90 and stayed there. If you didn't want to sell any of them, and risk not getting them back, that would severely restrict your lineup options/flexibility. Probably won't happen, but who knows.
 
16donk44
      ID: 563322323
      Mon, Jul 02, 2007, 02:00 		p.s. - I'm actually a little surprised Utley hasn't made it to $90 yet. he would be the next logical one to after ARod...IMO
 
17mrbig
      ID: 6336160
      Mon, Jul 02, 2007, 03:19 		Pujols actually made it to (I believe) $90.40. That appears to have been a bug, but he did make it to $90.
 
18donk44
      ID: 563322323
      Mon, Jul 02, 2007, 04:18 		mrbig - I think you are correct on Pujols. He sure didn't stay there very long though.

It will be interesting to see if Reyes sells off after his next game freeze time.
 
19Alex
      ID: 6551269
      Mon, Jul 02, 2007, 06:01 		Wow. I managed the nearly impossible accomplishment of being one of the only two people in the top 100 with a negative score despite not using a SP yesterday.

And thank you Rotohog for tricking me into thinking there was a Fla-Atl doubleheader and using Wickman instead of Jenks.
 
20Bandos
      ID: 05292011
      Mon, Jul 02, 2007, 07:47 		Question: Does anyone know what "premium prizes" means, when you upgrade?
 
21Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Jul 02, 2007, 10:15 		I just tried to upgrade this morning, but I think the transaction failed. After I filled in the page with name, address, and credit card info, the next page was simply blank, except for the RotoHog header and footer.

Has anyone successfully completed the upgrade? Should there be a confirmation screen? Does the "Upgrade" button disappear once the upgrade is complete?
 
22Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Mon, Jul 02, 2007, 10:29 		I am not sure what you get by upgrading except for the live prices. You can refresh to get the current prices. My understanding was that they were working coming up with some ideas that would give more benefit to upgrading. Perhaps that's what these premium prizes are--though I'd think they would be more specific. Btw, I was supposed to receive two T-shirts but only got one. Not that it's a big deal but if I'm going to be ineliigble for a real prize because of it, then I might as well get the T-shirt.
 
23J
      Leader
      ID: 049346417
      Mon, Jul 02, 2007, 10:59 		Reyes has lost a buck-fitty already today, so I guess that answer that question (#18)

I somehow made about $50 in the last 24 hours. The only thing I've been doing differently is getting SPs instead of RPs to go for the July monthly deal.

Bonderman covered up Pettitte's bomb for me. Without his bomb I'd have the 5th best score on day 1...
 
24Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Jul 02, 2007, 11:10 		Is live scoring part of the premium package? I thought I saw that listed a few days ago, but now I don't see it, unless that is what's meant by "View Stats and Market Data in Real-Time"
 
25Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Mon, Jul 02, 2007, 11:24 		My understanding is that everyone is currently getting the premimum package right now. If you don't upgrade by July 9th then you will have to refresh to continue to receive that. Since we have to refresh to get the updated stats anyhow and money is not really a big deal (to me anyhow) then the only "incentive" for me would be what are those premium prizes all about?

I've lost wll over $100 in value the past 2-3 weeks. Even when I'm around, I've not been selling at the freeze. I am just tired of being chained to the computer or when I am around to remember to try and sell like I used to. That irrelevence of money combined with my lack of ability to pick the right hitters has really soured my ability to focus.
 
26StLCards
      Dude
      ID: 31010716
      Mon, Jul 02, 2007, 11:41 		I find it strange they would charge $5.95 for less than half a season of service, when they advertised $9.95 for a whole season in their FAQ. Looks like they decided to up their price. ASB is a couple weeks past the middle of the season.
 
27Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Jul 02, 2007, 12:13 		Except that the first month of the season was going to be free, in any event. So we are really paying for about 60% of what was originally going to be the premium period. On that basis, 5.95 seems pretty much on track as a pro-rated charge.
 
28StLCards
      Dude
      ID: 31010716
      Mon, Jul 02, 2007, 12:22 		Actually it was the first 2 weeks that were going to be free, but if it is a pro rated charge based on not including a 'free' period, then that period wasn't really free as it just wasn't a charged for period to begin with. Pretty trivial anyway and I'm not complaining just wondered how they came up with that price.

You would think that the stats would work similar to Yahoo Stat Tracker. If you don't buy it, then you either calculate by hand or wait until the next day to see your scores. If you just hit refresh and see the points then there is little point of it since I already have to hit refresh to see the scores as it is now. The market data refreshes automatically but not the scores.
 
29Bandos
      ID: 05292011
      Mon, Jul 02, 2007, 12:57 		So I take it no one knows what the "premium prizes? mean. I'll email them as I cant find any mention of them anywhere in the FAQ's (which havent been updated in quite some time)...
 
30donk44
      ID: 563322323
      Mon, Jul 02, 2007, 14:01 		I don't think anyone knows what "premium prizes" are, since they don't list what they are anywhere on the site.

I was planning on upgrading today, but sounds like some people are having trouble getting their transaction through (a couple days ago, someone on the RH message board related the same problem as Guru had). So I think I'll wait a couple more days for them to hopefully work out the bugs in that process.
 
31Pops
      ID: 505182616
      Mon, Jul 02, 2007, 18:37 		Hmmmm 60% chance of precipitation for the Mets/Rockies game.

My guess is that game makes up b/n 2-5 players on most every team in contention, so it should be interesting to see how things work out.

I'm more concerned/interested in the impact on Fantasy Sports Live.
 
32Bandos
      ID: 05292011
      Mon, Jul 02, 2007, 19:32 		Anyone else having trouble getting into rotohog?
 
33Bandos
      Sustainer
      ID: 279492419
      Mon, Jul 02, 2007, 19:49 		It's back.
 
34mrbig
      ID: 6336160
      Mon, Jul 02, 2007, 21:54 		Thank Eric Bedard for me...
 
35Pops
      ID: 5923858
      Mon, Jul 02, 2007, 22:33 		Get in line, grrrr
 
36Pops
      ID: 5923858
      Mon, Jul 02, 2007, 22:54 		While in the thanking mood i'll extend one to Ozzie.

Thanks for letting your bullpen blowup in the 8th and not bringing Jenks in before it turned into a one run game.

Ah, thank you too Bobby, for sucking - whenver I have you anyway.
 
37Ender
      ID: 1138421
      Mon, Jul 02, 2007, 22:57 		What should I do with the SP slot normally reserved for Gregg... I think I'll leave it alone. Nah, I'll pick up Brandon Webb.

That sums up my last week. June was REAL good to me, but I'm limping into July.
 
38Pops
      ID: 5923858
      Mon, Jul 02, 2007, 23:05 		Re 37:

That might be the case in RH, but Chico's winning enough from me in FSLive to open up a new bail bonds location!
 
39Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Mon, Jul 02, 2007, 23:27 		Webb and Bedard for me today. Was doing better w/o any starters.
 
40J
      Leader
      ID: 049346417
      Mon, Jul 02, 2007, 23:54 		Woohoo, I can get ARod back now :)
 
41Ender
      ID: 1138421
      Tue, Jul 03, 2007, 00:01 		There's a Chico's on FSL? I'm registered as Ender, but use Chico's for Yahoo and RH as well, basically anything that requires a team name. I just love the name and of course the reference.

My hitters are actually adequate tonight, but my pitchers have just about undone every single point my hitters have got me.
 
42Crunch Bunch
      ID: 3136114
      Tue, Jul 03, 2007, 00:28 		Guess I wasn't the only one with Bedard - I had to move down one reliever and at least it was Jenks as I didn't think he'd get a save opportunity with Bedard pitching.

I sold A-Rod - hope that I can get him back if the injury isn't serious.
 
43mrbig
      ID: 6336160
      Tue, Jul 03, 2007, 00:33 		No saves, had Bedard. At least my hitting was good (not great) to mask the miserable pitching results today.
 
45Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Jul 03, 2007, 08:28 		I got my missing 6 points back today. donk44, did you ever get an explanation?
 
46Alex
      ID: 6551269
      Tue, Jul 03, 2007, 08:47 		Ender - I think there's even another Chico's on RH...I saw the same team name, but with a different 'owner name' on the daily top 10 once.

I asked once before, but I don't think anybody responded - does anyone know how to interpret the new points/game that RH added in the profile section last week?
 
47Alex
      ID: 6551269
      Tue, Jul 03, 2007, 09:30 		Has anyone else calculated their own pts/g and pts/ip recently?

I just completed mine for the first time all season.

SP PTS/IP(IP): Apr - 4.12(56), May - 6.18(1.62), June - 5.50(194)
RP PTS/IP(IP): Apr - 13.49(61), May - 13.20(78), June - 12.66(67)

I didn't actually calculate my hitter totals, but it looks like I'm around 6.85 pts/g overall.

I'd love to see numbers for some other teams.
 
48J
      Leader
      ID: 049346417
      Tue, Jul 03, 2007, 10:17 		Just saw Griffey wasn't out anymore, had to go sell someone real quick and by the time I got back, he was out again. D'oh!!!!!
 
49mrbig
      ID: 59522612
      Tue, Jul 03, 2007, 10:18 		SP pt/ip: 3.83 (apr), 5.96 (may), 5.11 (june), 5.05 (tot)
RP pt/ip: 15.77 (58.3 ip, apr), 16.49 (74.3 ip, may), 11.91 (76 ip, june), 14.54 (214 ip, tot)
Hitters pt/g: 7.78 (apr), 5.91 (may), 6.63 (june), 6.69 (tot)
SP+RP pt/ip: 7.93 (apr), 9.06 (may), 7.46 (june), 8.16 (tot)

Basically, other than miserable performances from my RP, June was basically between April and May. June is probably a reasonable gauge of how I will do the rest of the year, though I'd like to think my SP will be more toward my May average then my June average since I made a few admittedly bonehead picks in June.

For hitting, I started out playing mostly studs in April, followed by mostly matchups (historical batter vs. pitcher) in May & June. In late June I started playing more the hot hitters, also looking at righty/lefty splits if they are pronounced (i.e. I start Berkman during his hot streak against righty pitchers, but not lefties).

No idea what hitting strategy is the best so far. I'd like to think a combination of May & late June strategies is the winner, but really too hard to tell at this point.
 
50mrbig
      ID: 59522612
      Tue, Jul 03, 2007, 10:20 		I really think there is a bug with Griffey. No way he should be sold out at $25 and I really don't believe he's fully owned. Just my feeling, but both seem unreasonable since he hasn't been on any particular super-hot streak lately.
 
51mrbig
      ID: 59522612
      Tue, Jul 03, 2007, 10:22 		Bug fixed? Griffey is now "out" and $36 (and going up), which sounds more reasonable.
 
52Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Jul 03, 2007, 10:26 		SP (excl Pap & Gregg, etc.):
April 4.32 (150 IP)
May 4.71 (123)
June 5.64 (154)
Overall: 4.91 (428)

RP (incl Pap & Gregg, etc.):
April 12.15 (67)
May 16.38 (80)
June 13.05 (72)
Overall 13.99 (220)

Total Pitching:
April 6.75 (217)
May 9.30 (203)
June 8.00 (226)
Overall 7.99 (648)

Hitters:
April 6.90
May 5.92
June 7.08
Overall 6.62
 
53donk44
      ID: 563322323
      Tue, Jul 03, 2007, 10:36 		Re: 45

Guru - I never got a response or explanation from RH, but I also got my 6 points back today.

 
54Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Jul 03, 2007, 10:43 		Interesting that ARod has already sold out again. Must have been a lot of pent up demand.
 
55donk44
      ID: 563322323
      Tue, Jul 03, 2007, 10:44 		sorry I don't have any numbers to share yet. I've been meaning to calculate my YTD numbers, but have only gotten about half way so far, through the middle of May. will try to finish that ASAP, so I can post some numbers. It will have a breakdown by position for hitters.
 
56Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, Jul 03, 2007, 11:09 		So now Grif is sold out again but he is up almost double his price today +$25 and even though it says OUT, he is still rising. So someone must be selling.
 
57Crunch Bunch
      ID: 3136114
      Tue, Jul 03, 2007, 11:13 		Well that stinks about Griffey as I had him for awhile and dropped him two days ago. Seems like they have some bugs with their pricing mechanism as why would his salary remain at $25 for a long period and then double just like that?
 
58Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, Jul 03, 2007, 11:17 		Yeah I'm watching him right now and he is still out and his price keeps rising. He is now double his price just today. ARod is sold out too and his buy price is 90.20 instead of 90.00. I finally sold him. Part of the problem with my ranking IMM is that I blindly started him and Reyes through their slums in May and June. Obviously I was making other bad picks too though (and continue to do so). I decided that I was selling him yesterday unless he was big. When he got hurt--it was a pretty easy decision. He is NOT a must-have right now and if he is later--than oh well. I have to do something different.
 
59StLCards
      Dude
      ID: 31010716
      Tue, Jul 03, 2007, 11:27 		People do seem to be selling Griffey as I just bought him, but a 120% price gain is pretty big. Maybe this is the same way the all star voting worked this year as he was the top NL vote getter IIRC.
 
60StLCards
      Dude
      ID: 31010716
      Tue, Jul 03, 2007, 11:29 		I also sent customer service an email saying I thought there was a problem with Griffey.

As far as ARod I think a few people like me sold him when his price started falling to head off a major crash, but then bought him back from fear of him selling out and not having the opportunity to start him at all.
 
61Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, Jul 03, 2007, 11:35 		AROD: Right but before he was capped out at 90. Griffey wsa capped at 25 before and now he's up over $30 just today and rising.
 
62Ender
      ID: 335132010
      Tue, Jul 03, 2007, 11:54 		The question is what was the bug? It looks like being stuck at $25 was the bug. The rising price is keeping with what we have seen all year from other players who have been OUT.
 
63mrbig
      ID: 59522612
      Tue, Jul 03, 2007, 13:21 		I think the $25 cap was a bug AND not enough people were able to buy him. Just a theory, but I think they fixed the "cap" bug and the "volume" bug at the same time, meaning there were more Griffey's available for purchase and this quick rise in purchases spurred his quick price increase after the cap was fixed.
 
64donk44
      ID: 563322323
      Tue, Jul 03, 2007, 14:48 		play Big Z at your own risk tonight. as per the usual pattern, the Nats get shut down by the other teams 3rd starter (Lilly), then beat their ace.
 
65Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, Jul 03, 2007, 19:20 		I'm tired of running from Washington. They've hurt me all year but I've still got Z in there tonight. Lost a ton of cash on him again. really need to preserve some of my cash or I'm going to have nothing left. Not being chained to the computer cost me another $40 at the freeze. I'm sure I'll get some of that back tonight but dang that's a lot of cash in a matter of mins.
 
66donk44
      ID: 563322323
      Tue, Jul 03, 2007, 19:32 		Re: 65 "I'm tired of running from Washington"

Well put Ref, so am I. The Nats have killed my SP's this year, but decided to not give in to superstition and go with Z. I'm sure many other teams played him tonight as well, which will lessen the blow when he....ok, I won't say it.

Good luck breaking the curse ZZZZZZZZ man
 
67Bandos
      Sustainer
      ID: 279492419
      Tue, Jul 03, 2007, 20:12 		I got an answer about the "premium prizes" - its only for football.
 
68donk44
      ID: 563322323
      Tue, Jul 03, 2007, 21:54 		don't suppose they mentioned what the premium prizes for football actually were ?
 
69Ender
      ID: 1138421
      Wed, Jul 04, 2007, 00:23 		All season long we have no hitting points for pitchers. Tonight, Hamels pinch-hits and he shows -1.10 points. I'm sure it's of no relevance because anyone else who is holding him like me certainly wouldn't have him in a pitching slot today. Anyone recall a pitcher pinch-hitting earlier in the year? Perhaps Zambrano (I seem to recall the Cubs using him in the past)?
 
70Ender
      ID: 1138421
      Wed, Jul 04, 2007, 00:24 		Ha! As I typed that post, Moyer stepped up to pinch hit.
 
71donk44
      ID: 563322323
      Wed, Jul 04, 2007, 00:32 		Re: 69

Just happened with Zambrano on Saturday. It actually happens more than you would think when there are extra inning games.
 
72Pops
      ID: 5923858
      Wed, Jul 04, 2007, 01:12 		All-around, a great day for me.

Yahoo tricked me into thinking Unit was starting so I dropped Gregg (thought the Bosox would blowout the Rays so I didn't have Paps slotted in).

I thought Saito's game was a 9:05 start so I sold him 5 minutes early.

Oh, and I bumped Matsuzaka in favor of Unit, and well, i've already addressed how that worked out.

It's great if you think about it...I saved 10 IP's and all it cost me was about 120 pts, sweet!
 
73Ender
      ID: 59931818
      Wed, Jul 04, 2007, 15:50 		Almost went with Hamels. He burned me a couple times recently so I passed. It aint over yet, but looks like I should have pulled the trigger. My only consolation is that I plugged Papelbon into that slot.
 
74Crunch Bunch
      ID: 3136114
      Wed, Jul 04, 2007, 15:59 		Went with Santana but now it looks like Nathan is coming into a non-save situation. It just seems like every one of my relievers comes into a game with a four run lead after his team scores in the top of the ninth...
 
75mrbig
      ID: 6336160
      Wed, Jul 04, 2007, 16:42 		No SP today. Yankees scare me too much, I won't go with any SP against them, even Santana. Hamels seems to have been throwing too many strikes lately, but maybe he's turned the corner again.

My Phillies picks are all doing decent today - Utley, Rollins, Howard. Its a mixed bag though since I'm an Astros fan!
 
76Ender
      ID: 1138421
      Wed, Jul 04, 2007, 16:57 		I thought about Santana, but was also scared off by the Yankees lineup. They are not terrifying, but it just felt like a matchup to pass on.
 
77mrbig
      ID: 59522612
      Thu, Jul 05, 2007, 12:44 		Lots of SP options today. Should make for some decent differentiation, unless they are all solid.

I have Sheets. Will probably go with Peavy, but Penny has been lights-out lately. Beckett and Maine are also great options. Taking a chance on the CC/Verlander matchup isn't for me and I may shy away from the Penny/Hudson matchup for the same reason.

 
78J
      Leader
      ID: 049346417
      Thu, Jul 05, 2007, 15:10 		This is kinda fun trying to pick 6 starters every day. I just caught up on my stats through the last 2 weeks ago and I've been doing alot better with hitting.

7.92 avg per game since June 26

Using 6 starters every day for the first 4 days of July has gotten me right at 4pts per inning (Only used 4 starters on Tuesday due to a lack of RP starters). That also includes Andy Pettitte's lovely -61.15 outing, and Rich Hill's -18.06 last night. Other than that...so far so good. Hopefully the rest of the month goes this nicely and I'll have a shot to be playing my brand new Wii by mid August :)
(In 7th place after 4 days)
 
79Crunch Bunch
      ID: 3136114
      Thu, Jul 05, 2007, 15:22 		Went with Sheets - passed on Sabathia/Verlander. Wonder if A-Rod will drop that much with the news that he's going to sit out Today - only a few $ so far.
 
80J
      Leader
      ID: 049346417
      Thu, Jul 05, 2007, 15:30 		D'oh, completely forgot to sell Peavy on time, there goes most of the money I made on Griffey the other day!
 
81Alex
      ID: 6551269
      Thu, Jul 05, 2007, 15:30 		I went with Peavy only today.

You may remember me saying that last week when I sold Peavy (and other SPs) at their freeze times, I was losing $5-$10 despite selling within a second of the freeze time. Today (using the same computer and same internet connection) I managed to get out without losing one cent. How is that possible?

P.S. I'm recovered from my 24 hours of suicidal thoughts (just kidding) resulting from my 4 day drop from 4th to 13th in the adjusted standings, have figured out that my problem is I suck at picking relievers, have figured out WHY I suck at it, and am ready to start kicking some ass.
 
82J
      Leader
      ID: 049346417
      Thu, Jul 05, 2007, 15:40 		Just go by rotohog's clock

Lets say game starts at 7:05pm and when you click to sell a player, it say "order time is 6:54:56PM"

If you wait for the 10 second timer to hit 5 to confirm the order, you're good to go - since the time will then be 6:55:01PM and past the freeze time.
 
83donk44
      ID: 563322323
      Thu, Jul 05, 2007, 15:57 		Re: 81

also went with Peavy only. almost went with Sheets too, but decided at the last minute to use F. Cordero in that game insead. so I hope Sheets wins (but not by too much).

I know what you mean about picking RP's Alex. do you go with the better ones, even when they are less likely to get a save chance. or do you go with the ones that have the best chance at getting a save opportunity, even when they aren't the top closers. or somewhere in the middle. or maybe you go with the hot one that's been getting lots of save chances lately, regardless of the matchup. also do you keep them for a few days at a time, or repick every day.

I still haven't been able to come up with an answer to those difficult questions.
 
84mrbig
      ID: 59522612
      Thu, Jul 05, 2007, 15:59 		Hmmm, Sheets looking poor so far and I lost $14 on Peavy. Not the ideal situation! At least I didn't go with Sabathia.. Unfortunately, also stayed away from V-Mart and Sheffield.
 
85BigBobE
      Donor
      ID: 061511210
      Thu, Jul 05, 2007, 16:14 		RE 81 :

Sync you clock with --- http://www.worldtimeserver.com/

It's correct %100
 
86Ender
      ID: 1138421
      Thu, Jul 05, 2007, 17:20 		I went with Peavy. I had an afternoon commitment and had to eat the $14. It would be worth it if the SD offense would do their part.
 
87Crunch Bunch
      ID: 3136114
      Thu, Jul 05, 2007, 17:34 		Looks like picking Sheets was a loser and I compounded the mistake by swapping out Capps for Cordero since I was sure that the Brewers would take out the Pirates.

At least I had V-Mart. I probably would have swapped him out since he was facing Verlander Today but forgot about it. Sometimes, it's better not to overanalyze.

In my roto league, I have Hermidia but didn't move him down because I forgot that he was facing Peavy which worked out in my favor also Today.
 
88Ender
      ID: 1138421
      Thu, Jul 05, 2007, 18:10 		I went light on hitters today because I couldn't make up my mind. I went with 6 hitters. The bad news is one of them was Fielder, but I was +6 in games at 1B anyway so it's not that big a loss. The good news is the ones I did go with have been more than adequate with the exception of Sizemore who in hindsight was probably a poor choice for the day anyway.
 
89Bandos
      Sustainer
      ID: 279492419
      Thu, Jul 05, 2007, 18:15 		I also had Sizemore, who I left in due to his 1.400 OPS vs. Verlander. So much for match-ups...
 
90Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Jul 05, 2007, 18:18 		I decided to start Sheets and Peavy and sit Gregg today.

Oops.

The maddening thing is that I almost changed my mind at the last minute. But I decided to stick with the plan. Should've listened to my gut feeling on Sheets.
 
91Ender
      ID: 1138421
      Thu, Jul 05, 2007, 18:40 		I didn't look up Sizemore's matchup. That's an interesting note. I honestly haven't looked at individual matchups at all this season. I would drive myself crazy with that many statistics. Perhaps it's the hump I need to get over to move up in the standings or perhaps ignorance is bliss and I should stay the course. Knowing me, I would overthink every decision and the game would be less fun.

There were so many pitchers today I had trouble choosing. I carried Sheets for a couple days for money, but when it came down to it I didn't seriously consider him. I stayed away from Sabathia and Verlander because I wouldn't have known who to pick (it's bad enough I took Sabathia's beating on my 2 roto teams).

After having Young yesterday and Peavy today I'm evn less a San Diego fan than I have ever been, if that was even possible. Worse yet, I double dipped with Hoffman both days and have nothing to show for it.

I hope the rest of the day gets better.
 
92Crunch Bunch
      ID: 3136114
      Thu, Jul 05, 2007, 19:00 		I must be kryptonite to Gregg - since I've dropped him, he's picked up two saves with 4 K's and no hits/walks.

I'm sure that if I picked him up again, the bad Gregg would show himself again
 
93Pops
      ID: 505182616
      Thu, Jul 05, 2007, 19:18 		This could have been my first inning:

- A. Iwamura struck out swinging
- C. Crawford struck out swinging
- B. Harris struck out swinging
- End of Inning (0 Runs, 0 Hits, 0 Errors)

Instead, I went w/ Peavy and Sheets after a great amount of deliberation.

I want to tell myself that my desire to see instant results didn't contribute to Sheets over Penny/Beckett, but there's no doubt that to some degree it did.

I've had s problem all year of having used all my slots before the west coast games even begin, ah well.

Oh and also, FU Gregg.
 
94Ender
      ID: 1138421
      Thu, Jul 05, 2007, 19:20 		I'm planning on upgrading to the premium package this weekend. Has it been working properly?
 
95donk44
      ID: 563322323
      Thu, Jul 05, 2007, 21:43 		Re: 94

I was also planning to upgrade to the premium package, and was wondering if the person(s) who had trouble getting that transaction through was able to complete it ?? Any problems doing it ? etc.
 
96J
      Leader
      ID: 049346417
      Thu, Jul 05, 2007, 21:56 		I'm just gonna wait til a few days after the all star break to see if anyone thinks its worth it or not
 
97donk44
      ID: 563322323
      Fri, Jul 06, 2007, 00:09 		Re: 96

J - I could be wrong, but I think I saw that to get the upgrade discount for baseball/football, that you needed to do it by July 9th. If you aren't going to do football, then I think it's just $5.95 whenever you do it.
 
98Ender
      ID: 1138421
      Fri, Jul 06, 2007, 00:25 		I no longer like Brad Penny. I don't like his family. I don't like his pets. I don't even like his neighbors.
 
99Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Fri, Jul 06, 2007, 09:13 		My team score is messed up this morning. Points on the team page don't agree with the daily points on the global league page. Isringhausen is part of the problem, I think. (Not showing the save, as though his game isn't complete.)

I assume I'm not alone?
 
100Ender
      ID: 335132010
      Fri, Jul 06, 2007, 09:54 		I hadn't picked up on that, my spreadsheet is at home. I only played 5 hitters yesterday and my games played went from +22 to +25. I'm still trying to wrap my head around that math.

Yesterday was not a good pitching day for me. I was horribly inefficient with SP IP. If it had only been a few IP it wouldn't hurt so bad.
 
101J
      Leader
      ID: 049346417
      Fri, Jul 06, 2007, 10:06 		I didn't get credit for Wainwright's win
 
102donk44
      ID: 563322323
      Fri, Jul 06, 2007, 11:09 		my score is off from yesterday, and I think position usage is also messed up. plus daily scores from many previous days are now way off. they must have had a major overnight gremlin problem.
 
103J
      Leader
      ID: 049346417
      Fri, Jul 06, 2007, 13:37 		Got Wainwright's win now
 
104J
      Leader
      ID: 049346417
      Fri, Jul 06, 2007, 16:58 		Almost 100pts from my combo of Mauer, Hunter, Morneau, Cuddyer just 7 innings into game 1 of the DH!!!

This could turn into a pretty fun day :)
 
105Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Fri, Jul 06, 2007, 17:16 		Meanwhile, the tandem of Jenks & Nathan will get a big squadoosh for game 1.
 
106donk44
      ID: 563322323
      Fri, Jul 06, 2007, 17:18 		woweeee J

I didn't play any hitters in that DH, because I didn't want to use up 2 position usages, when some players might only start 1 of the games and then pinch hit in the 2nd one. did at least consider Mauer, since he will probably play both games.

Oops

Good luck making 500 points today !
 
107donk44
      ID: 563322323
      Fri, Jul 06, 2007, 17:26 		Looks like my score is fixed from yesterday, but my position usage is still off. I only played 6 hitters and my usage went up (+3). Hope they just haven't gotten to fixing that part yet.
 
108Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Fri, Jul 06, 2007, 17:41 		lol - nice, J. How fun to go for a monthly or weekly and use up all of those games! Like most others, being positive in position usage I avoided Mauer and other Twins from consideration (except Nathan and Jenks, of course!).
 
109StLCards
      Dude
      ID: 31010716
      Fri, Jul 06, 2007, 17:43 		It would be interesting to see what 9 players from that one game could total. Has to be huge.
 
110Chuck
      ID: 152261223
      Fri, Jul 06, 2007, 17:49 		If Thome hits a grand slam here, it becomes a save situation in a 20-17 game... :)
 
111donk44
      ID: 563322323
      Fri, Jul 06, 2007, 17:57 		afraid not Chuck, since there were already outs in the inning. but it did make it all the way to where the Chisox just needed to get one more man on base to make it a save situation. too bad. though with everyone and their mother having Nathan, it wouldn't have mattered a whole lot anyway.
 
112Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Fri, Jul 06, 2007, 18:11 		[104] - Sounds like you avoided Garland as well. That could have offset a lot!
 
113Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Fri, Jul 06, 2007, 18:17 		My mom skipped Nathan actually. ;-)
 
114donk44
      ID: 563322323
      Fri, Jul 06, 2007, 18:19 		and you didn't tell her about the DH Species ?!?
 
115donk44
      ID: 563322323
      Fri, Jul 06, 2007, 19:48 		checked his daily log for laughs, and Garland would have gotten any unlucky owner -85.48 points. That just could be the highest negative for any pitcher so far.
 
116Crunch Bunch
      ID: 35332117
      Fri, Jul 06, 2007, 21:44 		Only had Jenks/Nathan going so I missed out on the Mauer/Morneau show. Did go with Shields Today and hopefully he can keep it up.

So far out of my hitters, only Braun is doing anything.
 
117StLCards
      Dude
      ID: 31010716
      Fri, Jul 06, 2007, 22:37 		I had Morneau yesterday, I think I should get some of those points today as compensation!
 
118Pops
      ID: 5923858
      Fri, Jul 06, 2007, 23:57 		Proud Hennessey owner today.

Thanks Botchy, you suck!

Finally thought I was going to get a break from Gregg screwing me over. Whatever.
 
119donk44
      ID: 563322323
      Sat, Jul 07, 2007, 02:48 		these are 2 postings on 7/6 on the RH message board from Bigtwiz...

i couldn't use my card today then i got a 1 800 call and they said they watch for fraud for my bank and said that someone tried to use 727.00 dollars at some company in japan and 224.00 in florida

watch out - i had my credit card number stolen when i upgraded

anyone give any credence to this, or do you think it's just some disgruntled player or some punk trying to scare people for his amusement ??

 
120mrbig
      ID: 6336160
      Sat, Jul 07, 2007, 05:23 		My hitters averaged about 13 pts/game tonight and 5 of my 6 RP got into games! Too bad only 1 of the 5 RP actually got a save. I'm just happing Nathan, Jenks, Valverde, and Cordero weren't crushed in non-save appearances.
 
121Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sat, Jul 07, 2007, 09:53 		Isringhausens save points from Thursday are still not reflected in my team totals. Thursday's player listing has been updated, but the points haven't been included in my YTD team totals. I got an email from RH customer service yesterday saying that the points would be updated in my rankings overnight, but they were not.

My daily point total shown on the roster page is incorrect for both Thursday and Friday. On Thursday, K-Rod's points are left out, even though they appear in the listing. On Friday, Jenks' points are not included in the team total. That error seems to be only cosmetic, as the points included in my YTD totals are OK (except for the Izzy save on Thursday).
 
122J
      Leader
      ID: 049346417
      Sat, Jul 07, 2007, 10:56 		Up to 4th in the monthly standings, 3rd in the weekly standings. 140 back from the leader in 1st for the weekly, but 2nd place for the week is definitely possible, need a good day though.

I just noticed that 1st, 2nd, 3rd place for the weekly prizes actually get cash??? Nice!

My pitching didn't help me much yesterday. Shields was my only Win, Haren, Guthrie, Billingsly were my others. Nathan & Jenks didn't help much either. Not sure if it was smart to go with 2 DH closers or not, but oh well.
 
123StLCards
      Dude
      ID: 31010716
      Sat, Jul 07, 2007, 13:50 		At least I was smart enough to want to go to VMart today, just not fast enough to get him before the freeze. Got online and realized I only had 1 minute and couldn't log-in and buy fast enough. ugh.
 
124donk44
      ID: 563322323
      Sat, Jul 07, 2007, 14:06 		Re: 121

Guru - I'm also having similar point issues. And because points seem to appear and disappear overnight, it's getting impossible to keep track of what days & players are incorrect. happened again last night, where I somehow lost .61 points off my YTD total. I know that's not a lot, but I'd like to be able to keep accurate daily and YTD point total records, which is becoming increasingly difficult with all the problems they are having.

I think my hitting usage numbers are also still off since Friday. I only played 6 hitters on Thursday, yet my number went up (+3), instead of down (-3). That hasn't been adjusted yet either.

Ender - I think you mentioned the same usage problem from that day. Do you know if that's been fixed on your team ?
 
125Pops
      ID: 5923858
      Sat, Jul 07, 2007, 14:47 		I didn't get home early enough today to lock in Vmart. He just sit there, losing me money, and racking up 24 pts by the second inning.

I'm sure whichever scrub I get to replace him will not put up squat.

 
126Ender
      ID: 1138421
      Sat, Jul 07, 2007, 15:08 		I have not personally added up my usage. I can tell you that it did go up after my 5 player day and has remained high. I haven't had time to calculate what it should be per position. It is consistent with the individual numbers that are on moy roster page, I'll give them that much, but I still don't believe they are right.

I was gone for freeze and debated going with a later playing catcher, but decided to just keep VMart. I'm glad I did. I need some help after my horrible showing with SP the last few days.
 
127J
      Leader
      ID: 049346417
      Sat, Jul 07, 2007, 15:23 		For some reason I almost used Marcum today only because he can be used in an RP slot, but went with Looper and Carmona instead. So far so good.

VMart left the game early (after hitting a HR though). I went with Mauer today, although, I don't love the matchup against Buehrle (lefty) but I'm really not trying to overanalyze things like that. I may wind up with Russell Martin I think though...
 
128mrbig
      ID: 6336160
      Sat, Jul 07, 2007, 15:59 		StlCards,

Exact same situation for me. Wanted VMart, but didn't log on in time to get him. That's the last time I give priority to my 2-year-old's swimming lessons!
 
129Pops
      ID: 5923858
      Sat, Jul 07, 2007, 16:52 		Harden, Yes!

Keep the streak alive baby!
 
130mrbig
      ID: 6336160
      Sat, Jul 07, 2007, 17:22 		Ditto on that Pops! Harden = HERO (Heartless Emissary of Rotohog Oppression)
 
131Crunch Bunch
      ID: 35332117
      Sat, Jul 07, 2007, 17:50 		No Harden for me - thought about it but I decided to avoid the Harden/King Felix matchup.

So far so good with Sizemore and VMart
 
132Pops
      ID: 5923858
      Sat, Jul 07, 2007, 19:02 		LMAO My RH team is a joke!

I'm staring Carlos Zambrano tonight!

TOP THAT! Seriously, anyone, top that, I dare you!

I wont even begin to explain.

This means Kevin Gregg or Paps will get a .1 IP Win tonight, book it. Hell, both of em might just pull it off.
 
133mrbig
      ID: 6336160
      Sat, Jul 07, 2007, 19:29 		I have Ryan Braun on my bench:-) Generally using him just against lefties, maybe time to change my strategy?
 
134 Bandos
      Sustainer
      ID: 279492419
      Sat, Jul 07, 2007, 21:06 		Well, I just put her on autopilot for the next week whilst I head to the great backcountry of Colorado.

Have a great week. By the time I get back Yaz will be up 700 or more on me. Sheesh, that guy is psychic.
 
135Pops
      ID: 5923858
      Sat, Jul 07, 2007, 22:14 		So, 5 days ago, I started Bedard for bigtime negative points and watched Lincecum put up a beauty.

Today, I took Lincecum and am watching Bedard hurl the gem. When the Giants pen blows the game in the 9th, it will only make things worse.
 
136donk44
      ID: 563322323
      Sat, Jul 07, 2007, 22:48 		Re: 135

I have played Bedard about 3 - 4 times, and hit all of his bad starts also. Didn't even really consider him today after what he did to me his last start. Or Felix - ooops. Whoever played those 2 guys is going to have a monster night. Just wish I had played even 1 of them.

at least Hennessey finally came through and didn't blow Lincecum's win for you.
 
137donk44
      ID: 563322323
      Sat, Jul 07, 2007, 22:53 		Anyone else have Hoffman today, and his points aren't being included in your days total ?
 
138Pops
      ID: 5923858
      Sat, Jul 07, 2007, 23:00 		True, Hennessey, after screwing me yesterday, saved me 20 pts tonight.

I think he thinks we're even. Not yet Brad, not yet.

Also, mistakingly starting Zambrano hasn't cost me yet. Though w/ the Boston game in extras and the Fla game still early, much could go wrong. That said, I did have to push Lincecum into my final "P" slot so who knows what I could have come up with there.
 
139Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Jul 08, 2007, 08:28 		[137] - I've had a similar bug for the last 3 days. The pitcher in the second RP slot is being ignored in the points total on my daily roster page. However, the correct points are being included in the YTD standings, so it's only a cosmetic issue at this point.

RH is aware of it.
 
140Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Jul 08, 2007, 08:29 		BTW, my missing points from Thursday (save for Izzy plus 0.61 for Pujols) are now properly included in my YTD total.
 
141donk44
      ID: 563322323
      Sun, Jul 08, 2007, 11:53 		Re: 139, 140

Guru - Thanks for the update. My YTD points are also back to normal as far as I can tell.

I think my position usage is still off from Thursday's games, but I need to go through all my records over the all star break and see where I stand there.
 
142StLCards
      Dude
      ID: 31010716
      Sun, Jul 08, 2007, 13:26 		Decided not to start Sheff vs DiceK especially after his poor performance yesterday. So far so bad. Solo shot first inning. I'd really be curious to see if I could do better pulling names out of a hat.
 
143J
      Leader
      ID: 049346417
      Sun, Jul 08, 2007, 13:49 		Bruan is "out" at just over $10?
 
144donk44
      ID: 563322323
      Sun, Jul 08, 2007, 15:02 		Re: 142

also sat Sheff today. oh yeah, and ARod. and played Zambrano. it's going to be a real ugly day. it's so easy to overanalyze the matchups. I need to stop doing that.

picking out of a hat is one idea. I was having a hard time deciding between VMart & Martin for catcher today, and almost flipped a coin. wish I had since I went with VMart. I've thought about doing the coin a few times, but haven't had the nerve to yet. I'm going to do it next time though.
 
145Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Jul 08, 2007, 15:48 		RH shows Braun is "@Col" after the break. But the @ means that they have a day off, followed by a game vs. Col at Milwaukee. (Using the @ to designate an off day is pretty stupid. Maybe it's shorthand for "@nowhere").

In any event, on the surface, it looks like Braun is at Colorado after the break, which may be supporting his popularity.

But regardless, if he is OUT at a price of $11, there's a problem with the price algorithm.
 
146Crunch Bunch
      ID: 35332117
      Sun, Jul 08, 2007, 15:55 		Went with Zambrano...and compounded the problem by having Howry up and sitting down Accardo. That must be my favorite situation when a manager brings in the closer when they are behind....
 
147mrbig
      ID: 6336160
      Mon, Jul 09, 2007, 01:05 		re: 145

Guru, lots of guys that started out extremely cheap were "out" at low prices early in the year (I'm thinking Delmon Young and Howie Kendrick). Not surprised he would be out at a low price, but a little surprised it would be that low!
 
148StLCards
      Dude
      ID: 31010716
      Mon, Jul 09, 2007, 01:08 		I purchased the upgrade and got a confirmation page.

Confirmation Page
Thank you for your order.

ORDER CONFIRMATION# : xxxxx

You've been instantly upgraded to Premium Status for the entire 2007 baseball season. A receipt for this transaction has also been emailed to you. Good luck!

Take me back Home.
 
149Alex
      ID: 6551269
      Mon, Jul 09, 2007, 12:11 		Anybody care to venture a guess about when prices will peak on the few players with Thursday games?
 
150donk44
      ID: 563322323
      Mon, Jul 09, 2007, 12:50 		Re: 149

I thought prices for the Thursday players would go up more. Not only didn't they, but some of them are actually down today. Lots of big name players that are off Thursday are going up instead.

For instance, how can Papelbon be down today, when the Sox are one of the teams playing Thursday ?

But having said that, I still think that the top players with games on Thursday will have decent price gains over the next 3 days. Though from what I'm seeing today, a lot of the gains may not happen until Wednesday & Thursday.

 
151mrbig
      ID: 59522612
      Mon, Jul 09, 2007, 13:40 		Probably lots of managers that haven't looked at Thursday's schedule quite yet. I already picked my relatively light hitting lineup, plus a bunch of starters going on friday.

The last 3 days of RH baseball have been miserable for me. I caught the all-star break at just the right time!
 
152J
      Leader
      ID: 049346417
      Tue, Jul 10, 2007, 00:40 		I've had Hunter Pence for about a month now. Dropped him since he's off Thursday...now he's out. $13
 
153J
      Leader
      ID: 049346417
      Tue, Jul 10, 2007, 15:45 		So, is the upgrade worth it? It does kinda suck not having it right now.
 
154Alex
      ID: 6551269
      Tue, Jul 10, 2007, 16:10 		J - I agree...seems like it's going to be really hard to play RH without the upgrade. I'm going to sign up for it. I'm guessing serious players all sign up, and almost everyone else quits playing.
 
155Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Jul 10, 2007, 16:47 		Woo hoo! I won another T shirt!
 
156Crunch Bunch
      ID: 3136114
      Tue, Jul 10, 2007, 17:47 		Re: 154

I upgraded awhile back - what's the difference if you don't get the upgrade? Just wondering why people would quit if they didn't get the upgrade?
 
157J
      Leader
      ID: 049346417
      Tue, Jul 10, 2007, 18:56 		You can't see anyone's price at all (and I'm assuming you wont see the points either) until the next day
 
158donk44
      ID: 42611019
      Tue, Jul 10, 2007, 20:17 		I think a lot of people that are planning on playing RH football will do the special promotion upgrade for $11.95, which gives you the rest of the baseball season, plus the football season. That's what I did, even though the extra $6 for football is pretty much a donation to their site, since I haven't a clue about fantasy football. I believe if you only upgrade for football later after the promotion ends, it will cost you $9.95. So I can see a lot of those people paying the extra $2 to keep premium service for baseball.
 
159hellotony
      Sustainer
      ID: 110501511
      Wed, Jul 11, 2007, 00:04 		It's surprising to have the position usages change during the AS break.
 
160StLCards
      Dude
      ID: 31010716
      Wed, Jul 11, 2007, 01:29 		hellotony - I agree. Things change so much I never quite no where I am at, other than I am losing ground at an alarming rate relative to some people. Makes me wonder if I need to go in and double check all my scores to make sure all my points get added correctly. Right now I just assume that they are correcting things properly for everybody, but hard to say without double checking them.
 
161Alex
      ID: 6551269
      Wed, Jul 11, 2007, 08:35 		I agree - they better have the position usages and scoring ironed out by September or its going to be a mess.

Also, I was thinking about the suspended Yankee game which will be finished in a few weeks. I've got Rivera. If I get to 1300 innings before that game is completed (not going to happen, but hypothetically), what happens? If Rivera pitches an inning and gets the save, do I get the points? Would they subtract the points from my last inning pitched prior to that?
 
162Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Jul 11, 2007, 09:09 		They must be prorating the game usage targets based on calendar days, rather than actual scheduling. Not the smartest way to do it. It'll still work out in the end, of course.
 
163Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Wed, Jul 11, 2007, 10:59 		Re: 162, that's what they are doing. Much easier to program I guess.

When I talked to the CEO a couple months ago, he told me the only difference at that time for the premium was that you could see it in real time and that if you hit update you would get the same thing. Obviously they figured out something since then that hurts those that don't pony up. My thought was that I have little if any chance to hit the top 10, so I wasn't going to upgrade unless my team went nuts all of a sudden. Now I'm thinking that if I want to see what's going on at all, I have to ante up.

I wasn't sure I was even going to play football, but if I am, I guess it makes sense to do that one too. I just see a total "Chained-to-the-computer" issue in football--esp with the shorter season. I've lost $200 in the past month (and falling) and there's no way I could sustain anything close to that in football.

I guess the biggest issue I have with the game is the wide-openess of it. There isn't a lot of strategy as far as money-limitations, zero trade-limiations, etc. You just get whoever you want and guess. The only limiation is the sold out feature but the handful of times that does come into play, often there are players out there who are doing as well or better than that particular player. I think I'd be doing much better if there wre more strategy and limitations involved, but who knows. Obviously I can't pick hitters so I may just not be very good!!!
 
164J
      Leader
      ID: 049346417
      Thu, Jul 12, 2007, 18:42 		site down????
 
165StLCards
      Dude
      ID: 31010716
      Thu, Jul 12, 2007, 19:04 		It's been working for me.
 
166J
      Leader
      ID: 049346417
      Thu, Jul 12, 2007, 19:14 		well, sh!t....I haven't been able to get in over the last hour or so
 
167J
      Leader
      ID: 049346417
      Thu, Jul 12, 2007, 19:26 		I just jumped onto my roommates computer and the site loaded just fine...whats up with that???
 
168J
      Leader
      ID: 049346417
      Thu, Jul 12, 2007, 19:35 		Reboot, fixed it. Weird.

Wish I could bitch about wanting to login to bench halladay and guthrie. Not a good start(s)!
 
169Peter N.
      ID: 22573013
      Thu, Jul 12, 2007, 23:09 		After giving it some thought, I decided I'm not going to pay $15 for what's looking like a bunch of rotohog t-shirts. They are nice though. ;-)

I certainly don't blame those near the top for upgrading and would probably do the same thing.
 
170 Firemansmith
      ID: 29518300
      Thu, Jul 12, 2007, 23:40 		tried to upgrade to premium and found no option for Canadians. I've won and received a shirt, can't figure out why they would have an option unless it's an issue with credit card payment?? sent email to RH but no response!! Any other northern cousins on here with the same issue ???
 
171StLCards
      Dude
      ID: 31010716
      Fri, Jul 13, 2007, 10:33 		Reboot, fixed it. Weird.

Actually the same thing happened to me last night. Was working fine and then all of a sudden couldn't access it anymore. Tried deleting temporary pages and that didn't work, but a reboot did.
 
172StLCards
      Dude
      ID: 31010716
      Fri, Jul 13, 2007, 21:18 		Nothing quite like out-thinking yourself. Should have had a great pitching day, but noooo.
 
173Species
      ID: 86221320
      Fri, Jul 13, 2007, 21:22 		Any former baseball card collectors should Click here for a humorous look at old 80's cards.
 
174Peter N.
      ID: 22573013
      Fri, Jul 13, 2007, 21:28 		Just Bedard here. I thought about double-dipping with Ray, but that hasn't worked for me in a long time so shied against it.
 
175TacoJohn
      ID: 422551921
      Fri, Jul 13, 2007, 22:43 		I'm confused. Were Weaver and Sheets pitching today or not? Rotohog and Rototimes both had them going today. Am I dumb?
 
176donk44
      ID: 42611019
      Fri, Jul 13, 2007, 22:49 		Re: 175

TJ - I wasn't sure who was starting in 2 or 3 games either. looked at 4 different sources, and 2 of them had weaver & 2 had escobar.

I think it's going to be like this for the next 3 or 4 days as teams adjust their rotations after the all star break.

sure would be nice if there was one definitive source out there that was up-to-date/accurate.
 
177hellotony
      Sustainer
      ID: 110501511
      Fri, Jul 13, 2007, 23:32 		I find the best sources for probables to be the gambling sites.
 
178Species
      ID: 456111323
      Sat, Jul 14, 2007, 00:11 		I think this is my first day over 300.
 
179StLCards
      Dude
      ID: 31010716
      Sat, Jul 14, 2007, 01:51 		Very nice Species. I should have been there with you but passed on my original plan of both Z and Santana. Had them both on my roster and wound up going with Escobar and Gregg. That didn't work out so well. Didn't really consider Bedard since he had just had the monster game before, but that would have been good too.
 
180TacoJohn
      ID: 422551921
      Sat, Jul 14, 2007, 12:27 		Does anyone know what time RH updates their standings? I know they do the pts fairly early on in the overnight but when does the position usage genearlly get updated?
 
181mrbig
      ID: 6336160
      Sat, Jul 14, 2007, 12:43 		Wow, what an utterly miserable few days. I thought I would have internet access while out of town wed, thurs, & fri, but didn't. Yesterday I had Utley, Braun, Santana, Bedard, and Zambrano on my bench.

Plus now I'm way behind in games played since my roster was mostly bare on Thursday & Friday. Yuck. This might push me far enough out of it to give up!
 
182Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sat, Jul 14, 2007, 13:34 		GP and IP benchmarks are very misleading now.

For hitters, being "on pace" is currently 93 games. However, it looks like most teams have played about 89 games to date. So if a hitter plays every remaining game, you would get about 73 more games out of him. If you add 73 to 93, you end up with only 166 GP, 4 over the limit.

Another way to look at it is that there are 79 calendar days remaining in the season. Ignoring doubleheaders, if you fill a hitter slot every day, you can get all 162 GP as long as you have at least 83 GP to date, with would be currently listed as -10 for that slot.

So teams that are currently listed as being in the range of -36 to -50 (for hitters) are really pretty much on pace. And teams that are at -100 or more can still fill up the GP.

The situation is similar for pitchers. The reported IP for being on pace is 738, but based on the actual schedule, the correct number should be more like 714. And, of course, for pitchers it's even easier to make up shortfalls, although you obviously have to sacrifice some selectivity.
 
183Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sat, Jul 14, 2007, 13:41 		In other words, mrbig, in spite of what RotoHog is reporting for you (-26/-26), your hitting is really slightly ahead of pace, and your pitching is about right on pace. So while I understand your disappointment about the last few days, your pacing is certainly not a problem.
 
184TacoJohn
      ID: 422551921
      Sat, Jul 14, 2007, 17:03 		Are RH's numbers for PPG accurate at all? I don't know my numbers but what they're listing seems WAY higher than what ppl have talked about on this board.
 
185Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sat, Jul 14, 2007, 17:12 		They seem reasonably accurate - usually within a few hundredths of what I have.

My stats, sorted by points/game for the full year (for hitters)
 
186StLCards
      Dude
      ID: 31010716
      Sat, Jul 14, 2007, 18:23 		I think he's talking about the points per position as shown under the 'my market analysis". Maybe that is what Guru is referring to as well, but I agree that they seem very high. Those averages for the top 100 are about 10pts/position which would seem pretty high.
 
187Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sat, Jul 14, 2007, 18:41 		No, I was simply looking at the individual player averages that appear on each player page.

I don't see anything called "my market analysis". Where is that found?
 
188StLCards
      Dude
      ID: 31010716
      Sat, Jul 14, 2007, 19:05 		If you click on your login name in the upper right corner (not your team name) it takes you there.
 
189Species
      ID: 31681418
      Sat, Jul 14, 2007, 19:08 		Did anyone else have a complete clusterfxxx at the 4:05 freeze? I sold F-Cord AFTER guys like Victor and Fielder but he doesn't show up on my roster!
 
190Species
      ID: 43691418
      Sat, Jul 14, 2007, 19:09 		.......and I never sold Papelbon and he disappeared!
 
191Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sat, Jul 14, 2007, 19:17 		[186-188] - those numbers are clearly bogus.
 
192StLCards
      Dude
      ID: 31010716
      Sat, Jul 14, 2007, 19:19 		I didn't try to sell anyone, but no one disappeared from my team. What time does your transaction page show you selling Cordero? Any sign of Papelbon being sold? Hopefully it's just a glitch.
 
193Crunch Bunch
      ID: 3136114
      Sat, Jul 14, 2007, 21:22 		Haven't tried to sell anyone Today but my team looks fine. I'm going to make at least one move later so hopefully no roster problems
 
194StLCards
      Dude
      ID: 31010716
      Sat, Jul 14, 2007, 21:38 		I wish I could undo some moves and get Nathan and Gregg back on my team. I've really got the knack. I'm sure I must have made a few good moves along the way, but I sure don't remember them.
 
195Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sat, Jul 14, 2007, 22:54 		Curtis Granderson is Out. What's up with that?
 
196Pops
      ID: 5923858
      Sat, Jul 14, 2007, 23:20 		Re 190:

Looks like it worked out for the best..or at least not for the worst.

I wish Hamels and Vasquez would have disappeared from my roster!

Well, them and my 5 negative hitters.

Kevin Gregg, who I don't have, has outscored my entire offense today. Bogus.
 
197mrbig
      ID: 6336160
      Sat, Jul 14, 2007, 23:40 		Guru re: 183,

Thanks, but it still doesn't feel good leaving 210 points or so (at 10 pt/ip) on your bench, plus two 30+ pt hitters. Sabathia's results today didn't exactly give me a warm fuzzy feeling either.
 
198Species
      ID: 12601423
      Sun, Jul 15, 2007, 00:00 		Thanks a lot, Heath Bell - jackass
 
199TacoJohn
      ID: 422551921
      Sun, Jul 15, 2007, 13:13 		I know I asked before, but still wondering..

Does anyone know what time RH updates their standings? I know they do the pts fairly early on in the overnight but when does the position usage genearlly get updated?