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| Posted by: TacoJohn
- [422551921] Sun, Jul 15, 2007, 13:15
That old thread was getting to be a bit of a pain to scroll through.
I asked this in the other thread but does anyone know what time RH updates their standings? I know they do the pts fairly early on in the overnight but when does the position usage genearlly get updated? |
| | | 1 | donk44
ID: 42611019
Sun, Jul 15, 2007, 13:52
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TJ - from what I've seen, the position usage gets updated approx. 1 1/2 hours after the market closes. though I got home last night a little over an hour after it closed, and it was already updated. so either that was an abberation, or they are getting quicker at it. so I'd say 1 - 2 hours after closing is a safe range.
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Leader
ID: 049346417
Sun, Jul 15, 2007, 14:01
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Victorino out at $12
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| | | 3 | Pops
ID: 5923858
Sun, Jul 15, 2007, 19:44
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Anyone else have an 0-fer-Gregg weekend?
Terrible.
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| | | 4 | Species
ID: 46521518
Sun, Jul 15, 2007, 19:52
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Finally hit the save jackpot: Gregg, Rivera, Wagner, Saito and Cordero. Woo hoo.
Took no starters.
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| | | 5 | Pops
ID: 5923858
Sun, Jul 15, 2007, 20:32
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Good thing I jumped on the Rollins train in time for today's game.
Atleast I stuck w/ Fatjols and didn't switch to Howard at the last minute. Then again, the other last minute change I was considering was Miggy to Arod.
Net net, a small positive, so i'll gladly take it.
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ID: 59522612
Mon, Jul 16, 2007, 11:29
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Any theories on why so many players have been selling out lately. I understand Braun and Pence, they seemed due. But Victorino and Granderson? Sure, they have been good for the value, but IMO neither has been so insanely good that they should be selling out.
Any theories that RH removed some of the available players to account for inactive teams?
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Dude
ID: 07724916
Mon, Jul 16, 2007, 12:11
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No idea mrbig....if that were the case, wouldn't more of the studs be out?
I guess my theory is that out of, and I am guessing totally wild here, 1000 active teams, only 200 of those have big RV's......so the remaining active teams have to get the Victorino/Grandersons of the world at a value in order to afford some of the other studs.
With more and more of the innings eaters falling out of the standings, at least it's easier to see where you stand.
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Dude
ID: 07724916
Mon, Jul 16, 2007, 14:03
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Dang I almost got shut out of Gregg today.
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Leader
ID: 049346417
Mon, Jul 16, 2007, 14:26
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I'm with you mrbig...I really don't understand how guys like Gregg, Victorino, Granderson sell out, when it seems like ARod is the only stud who sells out.
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Sustainer
ID: 110501511
Mon, Jul 16, 2007, 15:10
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Maybe since there is no price penalty for holding the cheap players, there is less urgency to get rid of them.
If there are still low FV teams out there looking to build more, they will be selling Paps every night at game time because the sell and subsequent buy back makes a lot more cash than trying to do it with Gregg.
Add the dead teams holding those players into the mix, and there is even less of those players available in the market.
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| | | 11 | Crunch Bunch
ID: 3136114
Mon, Jul 16, 2007, 19:33
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I sold Gregg earlier Today because he had already pitched three days in a row and went with Hennessey. Come back to find out he's jumped in price and managed to get him back after the freeze.
Guess I was lucky to get him back
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Leader
ID: 049346417
Mon, Jul 16, 2007, 21:53
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Kason Gabbard is my new hero!!!! I hope none of my monthly prize competition went with him. 91.64pts! Hill and Lincecum also did pretty well for me.
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| | | 13 | TacoJohn
ID: 422551921
Mon, Jul 16, 2007, 22:38
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J, I'm up against Gabbard in an FSL league. Ridiculous. Also, Guru, I've wagered around $1400 total so I think I've made you some pretty good money off the referral, haha. :)
Also, I haven't started promoting this set yet (I probably will tomorrow), but I'm going to have daily "real" Rotohog standings at for those who don't want to have to run a spreadsheet every morning.
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| | | 14 | Pops
ID: 5923858
Mon, Jul 16, 2007, 22:57
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Re 13:
If you're talking about contest ID 583, that's me ;-).
I earned it after literally falling 2-3 pts short on 3 different payday's yesterday.
Top-down, I loved the Sox vs the Royals.
Bottom-up, Gabbard really showed me something against the Tigers w/ only 3 hits in 6 innings and 6 hits overall in his last 12 innings. All that said, you and I both know, it's as much luck as anything w/ those SP's.
I'll take ANY non-bad luck I can get.
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| | | 15 | TacoJohn
ID: 422551921
Mon, Jul 16, 2007, 23:07
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Re 14: So there's Proehl. You've gotta be the only one wagering as much as me on this thing. :)
How are you making out? Are you up?
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Jul 17, 2007, 00:13
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Gotta hand it to rotohog. They made it almost impossible to enjoy the game at all w/o upgrading.
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| | | 17 | donk44
ID: 42611019
Tue, Jul 17, 2007, 01:27
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Re: 13
TJ - used the link you provided, and just did a quick cruise around your new site. you have some good stuff there, and you made it user friendly by sticking to the basics. I am impressed by what I've seen so far. I think you have a winner there.
and speaking of winners - props to you for being up $611 in FSL after only 2 weeks (saw that on your site). you are obviously wagering way more then me. I have only played the $3, $5 & $10 contests so far, and am about +$20 or so.
I also saw you mention that FSL did away with the -5 points for a pitcher that gets a loss. I guess I'm not paying enough attention, because I didn't even know they did that. when did that happen ?
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| | | 18 | TacoJohn
ID: 422551921
Tue, Jul 17, 2007, 02:01
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donk - thanks for the compliments. i worked pretty hard on it, so that means a lot.
I probably won't get around to updating it tonight but that +611 is now closer to +500 thanks to an 0-fer night. I've definitely been playing higher stakes though. I try to put up $200/day but some days I get started late and can't find that much action.
Re: 14 + 15
I went back and looked and you're Pops, not Proehl. :) Some guy named Proehl takes all my $54 and $33 action. I dunno who he is.
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| | | 19 | donk44
ID: 42611019
Tue, Jul 17, 2007, 02:20
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Re:18
TJ - you are quite welcome. I can only imagine all the time you put into setting that up.
couple questions...
1) on the real standings page you use 4.5 points per IP. I thought 4.75 was sort of the "accepted" number for that ?
2) is the site ready and able for people to register ? and I assume we need to register to be able to comment on the forums and so forth ?
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| | | 20 | TacoJohn
ID: 422551921
Tue, Jul 17, 2007, 02:29
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donk, 1) I definitely think 4.75 would be better. I'll adjust that tomorrow. It's one of those things where I set it as 4.5 not remembering the exact "standard" number and then never thought to go back to it.
2) Yep, forums are good to go, just register and you're all set. I'm really hoping to get those going especially for when I start getting into developing my daily projection system further. I'll need the input.
Also, forgot to mention but the pitcher scoring change was just after the break I think. They mentioned it on the FSL blog but nowhere on the site which I think is a little ridiculous.
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| | | 21 | donk44
ID: 42611019
Tue, Jul 17, 2007, 02:31
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TJ - follow up
from your site I linked to FSL, which brought up the page about removing the -5 points for a loss. from there I clicked on the profile for The Blinder (I think that was the name anyway). and that took me to another blog about poker (another game I play a little small stakes at, though haven't played much since I got into RH) and other games I never heard of (like BBT maybe ?) I had no idea these kind of blogs/sites/games existed. I'm not really sure what my point is, except that I guess I'm amazed at all the games and stuff that is out there, even though I have no idea what they are or how to play them. guess I just wish I had known about all this ages ago. though I don't know how people that have 9 - 5 jobs can possibly find the time for all these things.
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| | | 22 | donk44
ID: 42611019
Tue, Jul 17, 2007, 03:01
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TJ - one more...
I went back and found Blinders blog through FSL links from your site. I don't know if you know this guy, or these other games they mention, but wanted to get your opinion on something for FSL that he talked about. I will copy/paste his comments below...
Now lets take the contests on FantasySportsLive.com and see how much leverage you can apply if you have a skill advantage in drafting players (due to your superior sports knowledge). The leverage that can be applied is almost unlimited. Once you figure out your rooster for the day which takes some careful and skillful thought, you can enter multiple contests with the same or similar rooster. Since this is not like poker, you don't need to do anything once you have made your draft selections (which just takes a few minutes/contest). You are not limited to a number of tables due to limited decision time. You have an unlimited amount of time to make your draft decision, and then you have finished all of the work for that contest.
It is almost like this. If you could write a program that exactly mirrored how you play poker and included your skill advantage, you could use the program to play for you. You could enter 100s of S&Gs or cash games at a time and really leverage your skill advantage at those stakes. But writing a program like that is not easy at all, and you would be a bot and potentially caught by the poker site. On FSL you don't need to write the program, just enter a bunch of contests and let your draft skillz do all the work. It is pretty easy money because of this.
So if you guys have not checked the site out you are missing out. Bobby Bracelet, Joe Speaker, FallStaff, DonkeyPuncher, 23skidoo, Pauly, Iggy, Change100, OSU, chipper, kajagugu, GCox, TripJax, and many other bloggers are regulars and doing quite well. Mr. Bracelet, and Mr. Speaker are pretty much pwning the other players on the site.
so my question is, do you use or agree with the strategy - "you can enter multiple contests with the same or similar roster" ? I think it probably makes sense to do that, but I guess I am too chicken to use the same lineup for 3 or 4 contests in a day, so I end up picking different lineups to hedge my bets (I have also been hedging against Rotohog since their payout could be big). However, I'm thinking that is a weak and cowardly way to play it.
any thoughts or opinions would be appreciated.
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| | | 23 | Peter N.
ID: 22573013
Tue, Jul 17, 2007, 10:05
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Ref, I've found that its not that hard to get around not having the premium services. To see my overall team value, I click on the the next day. I also refresh this page to see if my overall team value is going up or down. In order to see how much I've gain/lost on players, I click on the previous day and then look at the market view. It was a bit of a pain at first, but I'm used to it now and am actually making more money now then I did before the premium services what into effect. Haha, go figure.
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Jul 17, 2007, 10:51
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WooHoo!!! I'm "up" to only a 1000 points behind Guru now. #42 overall. There is zero chance of passing Guru and top 10 is out of the question at this point. I might have to try for August. Will see where I'm at toward the end of next week.
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Jul 17, 2007, 10:52
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RE: 23
Yeah I saw how to do it, but it was a real pain. I didn't get football.
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| | | 26 | TacoJohn
ID: 422551921
Tue, Jul 17, 2007, 18:24
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Re: 22 I could actually write several pages in response to that. I might make a blog post about it.
Short story: I usually will only wager up to $100-$120 on any one pitcher. Since I aim for $200+ action a day that means I'll put some money on 1 or 2 other pitchers. Offensively I go with mostly the same guys on each team.
There are still roughly the same limitations in this game that you see in poker. Specifically how much money can you get in (in poker it's a time issue, here it's a lack of opponents.. for now), and how much variance can you afford.
In poker the bigger your edge the more you can win because you can play higher stakes. In a similar vein, if your edge in FSL is very large you can do more diversification without diminishing your team to the point of not having an edge.
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| | | 27 | Pops
ID: 5923858
Tue, Jul 17, 2007, 19:58
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- C. Duncan intentionally walked
Men on 2nd and third and only one out...not what I wanted to read after rolling the dice w/ Duncan tonight.
This does bring up a scoring format question though. Should IBB be worth more than regular BB? I suppose a happy medium b/n BB and 1B pts would be about right. But I suppose this would open up the question of the unintentional intentional walk, ah well.
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Leader
ID: 049346417
Wed, Jul 18, 2007, 15:13
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Am I going about this wrong?
The July leader for the month has been using closers pretty frequently.
Meanwhile I've been trying to plug in 6 starters (even in the RP slots) every day.
Would I be better off with a closer???
(the innings limit is NOT a factor for me, maybe it is for him?)
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| | | 29 | Alex
ID: 6551269
Wed, Jul 18, 2007, 15:52
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J - I think you've got the right idea...and your guess about why he might be doing that is probably right also.
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| | | 30 | Alex
ID: 6551269
Wed, Jul 18, 2007, 15:53
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Any guesses which games are going to be rained out tonight? It seems like there's at least a chance of rain for close to half the games...but none are really obvious washouts from the weather report.
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| | | 31 | GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Wed, Jul 18, 2007, 16:13
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Ditto what you said J.
I'm guessing IP.
Figure you roughly need 1302 IP for the Month if you look at 6 slots avging 7 IP (which might be high), times 31 days.
Might be closer to 5 or 6, just not sure which.
Cliff
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ID: 6551269
Wed, Jul 18, 2007, 16:23
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Am I missing something, or have they not done an IPO yet for Gallardo? I can't find him in the trading floor.
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ID: 42611019
Wed, Jul 18, 2007, 16:57
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Re:32
They haven't done an IPO for Gallardo. I was looking for him after he got called up, and he wasn't there then. In fact, they haven't done ANY IPO's in a while, so maybe they aren't doing any more at this stage of the season.
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Leader
ID: 049346417
Wed, Jul 18, 2007, 17:12
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I actually emailed them about Gallardo a couple hours ago. Odd that he's not in there.
and 7IP avg is definitely high. So far I've averaged 6.3 IP per start (which is actually alot higher than I would've guessed)
through 73 starts, I've had just 26 go 7 innings or more
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| | | 35 | mrbig
ID: 59522612
Wed, Jul 18, 2007, 17:33
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Bedard was scratched from today's start, for those who haven't heard. Get an RP into that slot. Now Bedard gets Oakland (licks chops).
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Leader
ID: 049346417
Wed, Jul 18, 2007, 17:43
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Thanks for the heads up mr. big!
Swapped him for Willis on my team, kinda out of options with all the day games
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Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Wed, Jul 18, 2007, 17:45
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Thanks J.
That's what I needed to know.
Decisions, Decisions
Cliff
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| | | 38 | donk44
ID: 42611019
Wed, Jul 18, 2007, 18:08
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now the big decision changes to, do you start Santana against the Tigers
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Leader
ID: 049346417
Wed, Jul 18, 2007, 19:01
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If Garza can shut em down...
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| | | 40 | J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Wed, Jul 18, 2007, 19:35
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ughhhhh apparently i should've kept bedard :(
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| | | 41 | Pops
ID: 505182616
Wed, Jul 18, 2007, 19:54
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I'm such a sissy...
I'm seriously considering starting Santana, Sheff, & Maggs!
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| | | 42 | donk44
ID: 42611019
Wed, Jul 18, 2007, 20:50
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Re:40
J - why should you have kept Bedard ?
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Leader
ID: 049346417
Wed, Jul 18, 2007, 21:00
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see post 36
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| | | 44 | Ender
ID: 1138421
Wed, Jul 18, 2007, 21:06
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I had Sheff in my lineup tonight (and Santana). It was more of an oversight than a plan though.
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| | | 45 | Pops
ID: 5923858
Thu, Jul 19, 2007, 01:23
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Sucks to have a guy go 4-for-4 with a walk, bat in the heart of a lineup, and score less than 12 pts.
Should have gone w/ ManRam, blast!
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| | | 46 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 366241923
Fri, Jul 20, 2007, 00:27
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Tonight's pitching lineup...
Escobar (Woohoo!), Young (Woohoo!), and... Lowe.
UGH!
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ID: 22573013
Fri, Jul 20, 2007, 00:36
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I got that beat. Earlier this morning I had Sizemore/Jones/Hoffman/Jones in my lineup. I then got a "brilliant idea" to go with 2 SPs today. So I had to trade Sizemore and A. Jones to free up the cash. I went to Hawpe and Matsui. The two SPs I swapped Hoffman and T. Jones for were Wang and Dice-K. Talk about brutal.
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ID: 205531611
Fri, Jul 20, 2007, 10:18
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Somehow, I seem to be hanging around with little access as I was in the nowhere of CO, then my wife got her appendix removed and both kids and wife got a stomach bug. I am one tired puppy. I have had no time to research squat so I havent changed my linbeup in quite some time. But I made a change today - Mauer for Vmart, look for Mauer to crush Lackey....
I also do not have access to my spreadsheet so I can't post anything, but the leaderboard looks pretty right with only a few exceptions.
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| | | 49 | Alex
ID: 6551269
Fri, Jul 20, 2007, 10:24
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Adjusted leaderboard is now posted almost daily at www.dailyprojections.com.
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Jul 20, 2007, 11:15
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For the life of me, I can't figure this game out. I pick players I think will do the best, but I am so wrong--esp hitters. Obviously Guru has figured this out and is in a great spot to grab that $100K. Others also are in a good position.
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ID: 422551921
Fri, Jul 20, 2007, 18:03
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Re: 49
Literally daily actually except I forgot to update the date cell on the spreadsheet today. :)
Double-header tomorrow and another on the 24th. Maybe I can finally make some rotobucks.
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Sustainer
ID: 110501511
Fri, Jul 20, 2007, 21:16
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Re: 51
The date has changed but all other stats look a day off.
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| | | 53 | hellotony
Sustainer
ID: 110501511
Fri, Jul 20, 2007, 22:53
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What is Rotohog's method of updating player position eligibility (eg: Upton OF)?
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| | | 54 | TacoJohn
ID: 422551921
Fri, Jul 20, 2007, 23:30
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52, hmm you're right. I'm headed out so I'll probably just roll back the date at this point and run the fresh ones in the morning.
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Leader
ID: 049346417
Sat, Jul 21, 2007, 01:22
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Got a response on Gallardo:
The reason we are missing players, such as Gallardo, is because they are not present in our current stat provider’s database. We agree that this is unacceptable and have since replaced this provider with a more reliable one for football.
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Donor
ID: 061511210
Sat, Jul 21, 2007, 04:53
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Re 55 : Me thinks the hog is full of crap !
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ID: 422551921
Sat, Jul 21, 2007, 11:48
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Re 55:
FSL seems to have a similar helplessness with regard to their stat provider.
The new standings are finally up, sorry for the missed day.
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Leader
ID: 049346417
Sat, Jul 21, 2007, 14:38
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thinking out loud...
Looks like I may start running low on innings. 324 innings left, 11 days to go for July. 66 pitching slots. 3 DH's, so, 60 starters left = 5.3 IP per start available, if I give 6 innings to those DH closers. So, i think I'm gonna have to slot in a closer or two along the way the rest of the month.
Currently in 4th place, about 150pts out. Definitely do-able!!
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ID: 42611019
Sat, Jul 21, 2007, 22:16
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Most players nowadays are either totally clueless on how to play the game, or only care about their own stats. And I guess since they make so much money, no manager or coach is allowed to tell them how dumb they are.
situation - top of the 9th inning...team down by 3 runs...man on 1st...1 out. count on the next batter gets to 3 - 1. so what does he do ? he naturally swings at ball 4 and makes an out. doesn't he know that you have to get the tying run to the plate to have any chance, and that a walk is as good as a HR in that situation ? obviously not.
another one from today - team down by 3 runs in the top of the 8th...leadoff batter gets to a 3 - 1 count...and the guy whiffs wildly at a pitch that is nowhere near the strike zone...then makes an out on the next pitch.
And I've seen about 5 others like that in the past week (and I don't even get MLB Extra Innings).
I will close with the infamous Casey Stengle quote - "doesn't anyone around here know how to play this game ?"
I know this has nothing to do with RH, and isn't the proper place for this, but didn't want to start a thread just to rant. sorry, and thanks for listening.
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| | | 60 | donk44
ID: 42611019
Sat, Jul 21, 2007, 23:14
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Follow up to 59
I guess taking walks doesn't get you bazillion dollar multi-year contracts, and that's what the game is about these days. Situational hitting wins you ballgames, but that is a mostly a thing of the past. Heck, 9 out of 10 guys can't even put down a simple sacrifice bunt, so most managers don't even ask them to, even when it's obviously the correct strategy. It's a shame that winning has almost become secondary to how many HR's a guy can hit (and cash in on).
You would also think a player making $10 million dollars a year could actually run hard to 1st base, but again no. I recently saw Pujols hit a routine grounder to the second baseman. He didn't slow down once the 2B fielded the ball and started throwing it to 1B. No, he never ran at all. He half walked/half jogged about 30 - 40 feet until he was thrown out. Then he turned and headed back to the dugout. I wish the fielder would just hold the ball and start walking over towards first base with it when someone is that lazy.
I can barely even watch Baseball Tonight on ESPN anymore, because of all the ex-players they have on there now, gushing about how great every single play and player is. They will almost never criticize a player (except Kruk), even when it's obviously warranted. And if I have to hear one of them say "he plays hard every day" again, I think I'm going to puke.
I don't know what got me on to these rants tonight, but I think it's been building up all year and had to come out. Sorry again.
Oh, and thank you Todd Jones for costing Verlander the win. Don't even get me started on how bad Jones & Borowski are :)
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ID: 1138421
Sun, Jul 22, 2007, 10:44
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It is indeed frustrating to watch the game these days. However when played right it can be a lot of fun. Dustin Pedroia seems to get it. I saw him slap an outside pitch to the right side and give himself up to advance a runner from 2nd to 3rd yesterday. There are others out there. They just seem to be fewer and farther between these days.
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| | | 62 | Pops
ID: 5923858
Sun, Jul 22, 2007, 12:35
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As an Astros fan, this is one of the reasons it's been a pleasure to watch Biggio over the years.
Even little subtle things like taking a bit of extra time getting into the box after his SP just made an out in front of him.
Bigg on first, Bags up to bat, 99/100 Bigg wasn't going to second b/c he knew all that did was take the bat out of Bagwell's hands. I really believe that with his speed early in his career, he could easily have had an extra 100 SB's if he was a stat-hog.
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| | | 63 | Pops
ID: 5923858
Sun, Jul 22, 2007, 12:57
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Sweet,
I started Verlander again today!
Well, atleast he probably wont do worse than 8 pts less than what he did yesterday.
Stupid mistakes like this have cost me several hundred pts this year. I'm left thinking about the day I sold out of Bedard and KRod about 2 seconds early and the put up a combined 100pts.
Argh!
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Jul 22, 2007, 13:02
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Playes make so much money that they run the game now. The managers have to let osme of them do what they want or be fear of losing thir jobs. It's a joke. WIth that said though, there are several incompetant managers out there--or so it seems by some of their (in)actions.
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| | | 65 | Ender
ID: 1138421
Sun, Jul 22, 2007, 13:57
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Pops,
I started Gabbard again today :P We'll get the IP back somewhere else, but it still makes you feel like an idiot, doesn't it?
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ID: 42611019
Sun, Jul 22, 2007, 14:32
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Re: 64
Ref - totally agree about the players running the game...or is that inmates running the asylum ?
Also agree with the bad managing comment. I have never seen so many bad decisions as I have this year. Though I think situational incompetence and lack of fundamentals by todays players has a small hand in limiting their options.
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| | | 67 | Pops
ID: 5923858
Sun, Jul 22, 2007, 14:51
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Re 65:
The bad part is, oftentimes when I do stuff like this (like starting Zambrano randomly 2 weeks ago...not a day before or after his start...just randomly) it really does come back to haunt me.
I'm not going to stand up here and pretend I was going to start Halladay, but I certainly was going to start Gregg. You better believe i'm waiting for the Marlins to take a 3 run lead into the 9th against the bottom of the Reds lineup.
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Jul 22, 2007, 15:21
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I decided to dump Halladay just before the game started. I am brilliant!
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| | | 69 | donk44
ID: 42611019
Sun, Jul 22, 2007, 15:48
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Re:67
or instead they could bring Gregg into a 9 - 2 game (why ?) against the heart of the Reds order, and he can give up some runs.
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| | | 70 | Crunch Bunch
ID: 35332117
Sun, Jul 22, 2007, 19:45
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Peavy vs Durbin - should be easy win for Peavy right? Noooooooo.
Actually thought about starting Guthrie instead but went with "the sure thing"
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| | | 71 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sun, Jul 22, 2007, 20:46
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The good news: I decided to dump Peavy around noon.
The bad news: I picked up Felix Hernandez instead.
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| | | 72 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Jul 22, 2007, 22:58
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I dumped Guthrie with Halladay right before the games today.
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| | | 73 | J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Mon, Jul 23, 2007, 07:43
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Does anyone know if the innings limit works like in yahoo where if you have just 1 inning left for the season at the start of any given day, you can use as many innings as you can? Or are they only gonna give 1 inning?
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| | | 74 | J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Mon, Jul 23, 2007, 07:45
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Found it
Which pitchers get counted from my roster when I use the last of my innings?
When any innings are available on the day the maximum innings are reached, innings will be used in order of the first SP position to the last P position until the max innings is reached. So if your team has 2 SP and 2 RP pitchers that pitched 4 innings each for that day and your team has 7 innings left, the innings for both SP positions will be counted and the innings for your RPs will not count. For the final pitcher used, all innings for his game will count even if it goes above 1300. In the example above, the team will end with 1301 innings.
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| | | 75 | donk44
ID: 42611019
Mon, Jul 23, 2007, 11:18
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does anyone know what is considering a game played ? yesterday Hanley Ramirez got hurt in the middle of his first AB, came out of the game, and was never charged with an AB. so he had no official AB's, but he was in the box score. I thought you had to have one official AB to be charged a game, but looks like if you are in the box score anywhere it counts as a game played. I couldn't find the rules on what constitutes a GP for RH anywhere.
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| | | 76 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Jul 23, 2007, 12:03
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It's a GP. Even a late defensive sub who never comes to the plate gets charged with a GP.
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| | | 77 | donk44
ID: 42611019
Mon, Jul 23, 2007, 15:45
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Re:76
Ok Guru, thanks. Guess it's easier for them to keep track of it that way, but it sure stinks when you get zero AB's and still lose a GP.
Just curious where you found that out, as I couldn't find it anywhere in their rules/FAQ's, etc. ??
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| | | 78 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Jul 23, 2007, 17:28
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I think that's the standard way MLB stats are tracked. Always has been, as far as I know. I suspect that if you appear in a box score, you are charged with a GP - even if you are a pinch hitter who is immediately replaced by another pinch hitter (due to a pitching switch) before eve getting in the batters box.
In any event, the case of Hanley Ramirez seems very clear. He even appeared at the plate, even though he didn't complete the at bat.
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| | | 79 | mrbig
ID: 6336160
Mon, Jul 23, 2007, 19:28
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Say it ain't so Jo(han)!
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| | | 80 | donk44
ID: 42611019
Mon, Jul 23, 2007, 19:44
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Re:78
no argument here, since he did play. I was just wondering where the rule came from, and your reasoning makes sense.
Re:79
I'm afraid it is kid
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| | | 81 | Pops
ID: 505182616
Mon, Jul 23, 2007, 20:07
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Oh man, am I ever regretting the decision to squeeze Sheffield into my lineup.
I sold out of Morneau at the last minute to sub in Sheff....ouch!
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| | | 82 | Crunch Bunch
ID: 3136114
Mon, Jul 23, 2007, 20:14
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Funny how you get on bad rolls...
Drop Sizemore..check
Play Santana...check
Hmmm..my 1b position is open because Pujols is out, I'll pick up Morneau..nah I'll just leave it open Today....check
Drop Braun...check
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| | | 83 | Pops
ID: 505182616
Mon, Jul 23, 2007, 20:22
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Oh, but it gets better -
7/23/07 5:00 PM All-Star Annihilators Gary Sheffield (DET - 1B, OF) Sold $81.07
I sold Sheff before his 7:1"1" start.
Tonight rules.
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| | | 84 | donk44
ID: 42611019
Mon, Jul 23, 2007, 21:08
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similar story here
Pujols off, so I'll play Morneau. Nah, I'll leave 1B open.
drop Braun
I'll leave 2B open since Utley is off - no wait, I'll play Phillips since he has very good numbers against lefties
have a better gut feeling about Smoltz & Harang, but I better play Santana since he's the best
DOHHHHHHHHHH
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| | | 85 | J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Mon, Jul 23, 2007, 22:25
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I benched Granderson :(
Should I be happy or ticked that Harang used 10 innings tonight? Good thing i can use 4 closers tomorrow!
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| | | 86 | donk44
ID: 42611019
Tue, Jul 24, 2007, 11:29
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does anyone understand how you can use 6 hitters and go from (0) to (+3) ??
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| | | 87 | Crunch Bunch
ID: 3136114
Tue, Jul 24, 2007, 14:01
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Also had Gagne last night - 8-7 score, cool! a save...no.
Had Phillips too - probably my worst day in a long while.
Hope springs anew as today is a new day
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| | | 88 | donk44
ID: 42611019
Tue, Jul 24, 2007, 21:40
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so did everyone play the 4 RP's from the 2 double headers ? I did.
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| | | 89 | J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Tue, Jul 24, 2007, 22:21
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I did. And almost went with Chris Young.
Young left Tuesday's game in the third inning for an unknown reason. He threw two perfect innings before leaving prior to the third.
Hope he's ok, but glad I didn't go with him. Wound up with Escobar as my other SP (to go with Zambrano)
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| | | 90 | Pops
ID: 5923858
Tue, Jul 24, 2007, 22:21
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I are the champion:
7/24/07 3:54 PM All-Star Annihilators Jonathan Papelbon (BOS - SP, RP) Sold $77.08
I have no idea why i'm still worrying about RV.
Cost myself 25 pts tonight w/ this stupid Papelbon 2 second early sell!
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| | | 91 | J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Tue, Jul 24, 2007, 22:24
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Make sure you look at the rotohog clock on the sell screen, you'll never go wrong!
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| | | 92 | Ender
ID: 1138421
Tue, Jul 24, 2007, 22:33
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I had all 4 DH closers. I dropped Papelbon last minute, but I did it for Maine so I refuse to second guess it.
I have been bleeding $$$ profusely over the last week. Between totally blowing any $$$ making opportunies this weekend I am killing myself. I need to right the ship.
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| | | 93 | Pops
ID: 5923858
Tue, Jul 24, 2007, 22:43
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Re: 91
Yeah I, like many of us, learned that the hard way several weeks (mths maybe?) ago.
I was at work and didn't realize I needed to click sell w/ 4 seconds to go instead of 6 seconds to go.
But hey, atleast I sold Utley, Howard, & ManRam at the right time securing -5 pts from 3 games used....no way I would trade that for Paps' save tonight.
Stupid.
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| | | 94 | J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Tue, Jul 24, 2007, 23:05
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Gagne attempting his second save of the night...I'm nervous.
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| | | 95 | Ender
ID: 1138421
Tue, Jul 24, 2007, 23:11
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Got it :)
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| | | 96 | J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Tue, Jul 24, 2007, 23:18
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generic baseball question.
Tonight I saw Dice-K went to lick his fingers while he was still on the mound...an automatic ball.
Why don't they just lick their fingers four times to get the intentional walks?
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| | | 97 | J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Tue, Jul 24, 2007, 23:33
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damn, no 2 saves from Jenks apparently
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| | | 98 | J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Tue, Jul 24, 2007, 23:34
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Apparently Thornton was just staying in to face the lefty
Gave up a single
Here comes Jenks!
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| | | 99 | mrbig
ID: 6336160
Wed, Jul 25, 2007, 00:40
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Anyone watching Baseball Tonight? One of Hudson's pitches to Barry was clocked at 99 mph! I know a lot of the TV guns are a little fast, but even mid-90's is amazing for Hudson. The pitch was absolutely nasty too, tons of movement.
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| | | 100 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Jul 25, 2007, 01:35
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Re: 96 Classic!!! Would love to see that. Would save 4 pitches on the old count.
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| | | 101 | J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Wed, Jul 25, 2007, 10:04
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Well, sh!t. I just checked back with their monthly prize list and the GPS thing is gone! I figured I probably wouldn't get the wii without finishing first, so I was looking at the other options.
Its been replaced with a $150 Amazon Gift Certificate...booooooooo
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| | | 102 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Jul 25, 2007, 12:51
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Dangit, the GPS is what I really wanted. Was thinking of trying for August, but now I don't know.
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| | | 103 | StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Wed, Jul 25, 2007, 18:50
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I need K-Rod to get the win just to almost break even, ugh!
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| | | 104 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Jul 25, 2007, 19:16
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I can't believe that I got a player that not everyone seemed to have and he went nuts in Holliday. Please let that break my horrid slump in this and TSN!!!
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| | | 105 | Ender
ID: 1138421
Wed, Jul 25, 2007, 21:24
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Nice call, Ref. I had him yesterday, but went a different direction today for some reason.
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| | | 106 | J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Wed, Jul 25, 2007, 21:55
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ughhhh, well, 2nd place for July was fun while it lasted. Bad Bad Bad Bad night
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| | | 107 | Pops
ID: 5923858
Wed, Jul 25, 2007, 22:04
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Thanks for taking 20 of my pts w/ you Alfonseca.
I could make an extra thumb/6th finger joke, but I won't.
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| | | 108 | mrbig
ID: 6336160
Thu, Jul 26, 2007, 02:30
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Happy Hollidays to you Ref! And me too, though K-Rod continues my 2-month slide at picking closers. Its shocking to compare my RP numbers from the April & May compared with June & July.
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| | | 109 | J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Thu, Jul 26, 2007, 15:51
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I'm 2 days in to picking closers regularly now. 3 so far...3 blown saves.
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| | | 110 | donk44
ID: 42611019
Thu, Jul 26, 2007, 16:05
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yeah, nice -25 pointer Cordero stuck us with today
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| | | 111 | Alex
ID: 6551269
Thu, Jul 26, 2007, 16:15
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I've got the same 3 blown saves :(
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| | | 112 | Crunch Bunch
ID: 3136114
Thu, Jul 26, 2007, 16:58
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Joining the Francisco Cordero Party....Yay for -25 points.
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| | | 113 | donk44
ID: 42611019
Thu, Jul 26, 2007, 17:12
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I think I have the same 3 blown saves also, if Putz & KRod were the other two
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| | | 114 | StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Thu, Jul 26, 2007, 17:26
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Count me in. Guess I shouldn't have been so happy to see a close game for Milw afterall. At least KRod was able to salvage his with a win and Putz didn't get charged a loss, but this -25 is painful. Hopefully my other closers can get some saves and help offset this fiasco.
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| | | 115 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Jul 26, 2007, 17:28
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I'm with the party plus the party who has points taken away by 3 teams for bad relievers.
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| | | 116 | Alex
ID: 6551269
Thu, Jul 26, 2007, 17:32
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Sorry guys - if you had the KRod blown save you didn't get the 'real' trifecta. Some of us low budget guys had Alfonseca (along with Putz and Cordero), so we got another -20 or so...and for bonus credit the Alfonseca blown save cost me another 20 points from Hamels' win. So there was about more than a 100 point swing from the three blown saves.
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| | | 117 | StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Thu, Jul 26, 2007, 18:07
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I just went and sold Cordero. It always makes me feel better when I can get rid of the player.
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| | | 118 | J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Thu, Jul 26, 2007, 18:15
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Sportscenter just said Utley's got a broken hand...
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| | | 119 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Jul 26, 2007, 19:49
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Utley had been one of the slots I just "set and forget". Now I'll have to think about 2B again.
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| | | 120 | Crunch Bunch
ID: 3136114
Thu, Jul 26, 2007, 19:54
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I'm surprised that Utley was never "out" as there is a huge divide between him and the next 2B whoever that is.
This actually opens up things in the 2B position as probably 90%+ of the top 100 had Utley before his injury. Now it's not so clear and matchups will probably determine which 2B owners pick.
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| | | 121 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 354152921
Thu, Jul 26, 2007, 19:55
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Utley > Cano... now I have 4 Yankees on my team. I'm going to have to do something about that. ;)
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| | | 122 | J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Thu, Jul 26, 2007, 20:29
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yeah i really dont understand how the "out" function works. He HAD to be on more than 1 out of 12 rosters
I just picked up Cano, Roberts & Phillips. I figure I should at least make some money with that
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| | | 123 | Species
ID: 166492623
Fri, Jul 27, 2007, 00:49
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Holy toledo! Utley is down over $31!
Today would be a BAD day to be away from the computer!
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| | | 124 | J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Fri, Jul 27, 2007, 00:53
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How the hell was he not OUT???????
And I believe that Phillips and Roberts?? are both out now, i think
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| | | 125 | J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Fri, Jul 27, 2007, 01:06
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tomorrow is the completion of the nyy-bal suspended gm...scoring should get interesting...
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| | | 126 | donk44
ID: 42611019
Fri, Jul 27, 2007, 01:56
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Re:125
I emailed RH about that, and they said...
Your players from 6/28 will continue to receive their points when the game is resumed on Friday. However, please be patient with our points allocation as it will take us a few days to apply the correct points to your 6/28 total
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| | | 127 | donk44
ID: 42611019
Fri, Jul 27, 2007, 02:00
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follow up to 125/126
so if I understand them correctly, the points from the suspended game won't show up on our Friday scores.
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| | | 128 | Ender
ID: 335132010
Fri, Jul 27, 2007, 08:38
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I was away in Milwaukee last night :( I'm down $31 from when I left. That's going to hurt for awhile.
The only saving grace is that most of the 2B cost $30 less than Utley did.
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| | | 129 | Ender
ID: 335132010
Fri, Jul 27, 2007, 08:41
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Heck, they all currently cost $45 less than Utley used to. We won't even discuss what I coud have done with the extra $45. I'll just continue to tell myself I have ~$15 to spend elsewhere now. Yeah, that helps...
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| | | 130 | Alex
ID: 6551269
Fri, Jul 27, 2007, 09:56
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Utley probably was too expensive for the majority of teams to own. Especially because such a large proportion of teams went dormant early in the season.
I think there's going to be a major price drop on the other 2nd basemen today...I suspect a lot of people 'invested' in multiple players when Utley went down, and will be selling all the extras today.
P.S. I am now down to $710 from almost $900 at my high, and am putting some pretty awful lineups out there.
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| | | 131 | mrbig
ID: 59522612
Fri, Jul 27, 2007, 10:13
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Youch, tough night to be away from the computer indeed!!!
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| | | 132 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Jul 27, 2007, 10:27
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If Alex Rodriguez homers in the remainder of the June 28 suspended game which will be completed Friday, the home run he hit Wednesday night will technically have been his 500th.
He currently has 499, but if by chance A-Rod homers tonight -- and he starts the game on deck as it will pick up in the eighth inning -- it will be back dated to become his 493rd homer, thereby bumping up all his subsequent homers by one and making No. 499 actually No. 500. How anticlimatic would that be? And how would you like to be the fan who catches the ball tonight only to learn that it's his 493rd and not his 500th homer?
Source: New York Daily News
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| | | 133 | Ender
ID: 335132010
Fri, Jul 27, 2007, 10:57
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That's just dumb IMO. It will be his 500th HR. You can muse all you (not you in particualr, Ref, but in general) want on the oddity that his 500th was hit before his 493 - 499 in the record book, but there's no arguing that it's the 500th one he hit.
I suppose it's an interesting oddity, but it's artificial.
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| | | 134 | Ender
ID: 335132010
Fri, Jul 27, 2007, 11:36
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I'm having issues with the site now. Anyone else?
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| | | 135 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Jul 27, 2007, 11:55
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seems to be running OK for me.
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| | | 136 | Ender
ID: 335132010
Fri, Jul 27, 2007, 12:01
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Interesting. When I try to load a page, it times out. I can load pages from other sites just fine.
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| | | 137 | Ender
ID: 335132010
Fri, Jul 27, 2007, 12:07
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Seems to be fine now.
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| | | 138 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Jul 27, 2007, 12:30
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While I was away and using dialup, that would happen to me quite often (with the rotohog site). Usually, I could resolve it by closing the browser completely, and then reopening it.
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| | | 139 | donk44
ID: 42611019
Fri, Jul 27, 2007, 13:56
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Re:130
you were right on about all the 2B taking price hits today. Since I happened to have the open roster spots at the time I heard of Utley's injury, I "invested" in the top 3 point scorers (Uggla, Roberts & Phillips). Lost some back today, but still made a few bucks. I also did it because I was worried some of them might become OUT and wouldn't be able to get them later. J said yesterday that Roberts & Phillips were OUT, but don't think any of them are now. I'm now thinking that with 3 or 4 2B worth owning, the money will get distributed among them all, and they aren't at much risk of getting sold out (or at least not STAYING sold out for long).
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| | | 140 | Alex
ID: 6551269
Fri, Jul 27, 2007, 14:36
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139 - I think that's right. Its not very likely that any of them will get sold out.
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| | | 141 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sat, Jul 28, 2007, 10:55
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Hog shuts down all of my open windows a lot.
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