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Subject: RotoHog: August 17th and beyond

  Posted by: Species - Dude [07724916] Fri, Aug 17, 2007, 13:03
My Pac Bell pics were screwing up the other thread, so we start anew.

Lots of SP choices today. Is there any definitive news as to the starting matchups in Boston? Who does Beckett face?????
 
1Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Fri, Aug 17, 2007, 13:12 		Species, since you can be in as many leagues as you want and apparently can't manually opt out, did you get rh to remove you so Guru couldn't copy your moves? You should prob opt out of the Ozzie league too since your moves can be seen there as well. ;)
 
2Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Fri, Aug 17, 2007, 13:15 		You can opt out on your own bro. If you go to "Join League" you get the list of all leagues, and of all of the leagues you are in, where it would say 'join' it would say 'Leave' (I think).

I guess I'll just have to risk him copying me because I want that autographed jersey! lol FWIW, I knew you wouldn't "leak" transaction info to others, because I used YOUR Golden Referral! BTW - can I at least get like a Rolex or a week in Vegas out of you if I actually win you that 10 grand??!?!?!?
 
3GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 060151121
      Fri, Aug 17, 2007, 13:27 		Speaking of Golden Referrals, anybody know who they are using for referrals for football.

Haven't signed up yet, but should shortly.

Cliff
 
4Pops
      ID: 505182616
      Fri, Aug 17, 2007, 13:30 		Awesome!

I didn't put Krod or Paps in my lineups for today.

I'm not sure whether i'm still competing for anything.

I deserve a raise.
 
5Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Fri, Aug 17, 2007, 13:32 		Leak transaction info? I don't even look myself.

Maybe if I hadn't told everyone about this league, I'd have a better chance of winning 100k!!! ;) If you win that $100K, what are you going to do for everyone here who helped you? ;)
 
6Alex
      ID: 8718115
      Fri, Aug 17, 2007, 13:36 		Ref - At least you weren't stupid enough to start a blog telling people how great RH was and giving advice on it! A while back imdbcooper posted on the RH forum that the article from my blog was what initially made him realize how important relief pitchers were going to be. !@#$% me!
 
7Alex
      ID: 8718115
      Fri, Aug 17, 2007, 13:38 		Anyone else unable to access the roster and trading floor pages right at freeze time for the early game? I was able to until seconds before, and can again now...but the problem cost me about $20 (I've got 4 guys going). On the bright side, I was thinking of selling Ortiz before the game started, and wasn't able to.
 
8Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Fri, Aug 17, 2007, 13:41 		UGH Alex!!!

I messed up this game pretty bad in May. I kept sending ARod and Reyes out there every day even though they stunk. Many other things I jsut didn't do well too. My April was pretty strong. Not even using IPS and I was generally around 10-12th place.

FWIW, I told the Hog CEO that I believed Species and Guru would finish 1-2 very early in the season. This game has been pretty frustrating. Maybe it's the fluidity of players. You basically can have almost anyone you want for however long you want. The selling at freeze times is horrible, but comes with the territory of the real-time market I suppose.
 
9StLCards
      Dude
      ID: 31010716
      Fri, Aug 17, 2007, 13:43 		I was hoping that I could make up a game at 2B today by going with someone from the DH, and of the 3 I looked at I picked the one who didn't play. Also looks like a nice way for Oritz to break out of a slump. Just another one of those matchup things where you think you shouldn't take someone against a stud pitcher like Lackey and boom.
 
10Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Fri, Aug 17, 2007, 13:50 		LMAO Ref - so is that a "no"??!? Come on! One week in Vegas ain't even a grand! If I was smart, I would have had my own wife give me the damned Golden Referral - but NOOOOOOOOOOOO, I was nice and took YOURS!

LMAO Alex -- I would have to kind of agree with your stupidity! ;-) We have an old Gurupie term.....and when we use it, it is intended as a term of endearment, but that was a total DUMBASS move!
 
11StLCards
      Dude
      ID: 31010716
      Fri, Aug 17, 2007, 13:51 		Alex - yes it crashed for me too right at the freeze.

Anyone actually watching the game? Sportsline showed Santana pitching, but the bloggers were saying Lackey. Yahoo shows it was Lackey too. Based on the result it would be easier to believe it was Santana!
 
12Dave R
      SuperDude
      ID: 3010361110
      Fri, Aug 17, 2007, 14:38 		MLB.com and Espn show Lackey as pitching
 
13Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Fri, Aug 17, 2007, 14:45 		LOL Species, you're pretty good at dodging things. But I won't. It's a NO! You got 100K and you want another grand on top of that?

If anything I helped get you that 100K ;) You should be sending me to Vegas! ;)

Seriously, we should all get together for a huge bash regardless. But I don't count my chickens before they hatch, either.

No matter what, someone should always have a Golden Referral from someone so rotohog just can't keep that 10K. Don't sign in for a team from now on without one!
 
14StLCards
      Dude
      ID: 31010716
      Fri, Aug 17, 2007, 14:45 		Thanks. Sportsline now shows Lackey too, although they had to enter Lackey as replacing Santana prior to the first inning. Maybe Santana was originally scheduled as the starter and sportsline was just slow to change it. Just glad I didn't have Lackey anywhere today!
 
15Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Fri, Aug 17, 2007, 14:54 		Oh I never count my chickens either - but had to have a laugh over the Golden Referral. While I am thrilled with my late summer surge, that tide can go out as quickly as it came in!! Ask mrbig :(
 
16Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Fri, Aug 17, 2007, 15:00 		Yep, I obviously hope you or Guru can win. I am just perplexed why you would leave the league and wanted to tease you. Seems to me that it would be more advantageous for you to stay as you are ahead and could have tried to match Guru instead of the other way around, but it's all good. Does your "wife" know she's playing in the league? ;)

I just sent out some more referrals and it seems that if someone already has an email registered, you don't get credit for a referral even if they join. And if someone has more than one email, it also doesn't count.
 
17Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Fri, Aug 17, 2007, 15:12 		Well more than one email registered apparently. As one person is playing baseball but under a diff email and anotehr person is also playing baseball but both emails were cited as being used. Maybe I should have had my wife playing as well! ;)
 
18mrbig
      ID: 59522612
      Fri, Aug 17, 2007, 15:46 		Species - I've still got some fight in me, I just keep spending all my energy punching the air and then am tired by match time. If I could re-learn how to pick relievers, I'd be OK. I think I get about a save a week these days.

Alex - I read your article on the value of relievers and it helped me too, thanks! Actually, I would have figured it out, but I didn't notice the 1300 IP cap at the time.
 
19Ender
      ID: 5963859
      Fri, Aug 17, 2007, 16:51 		Can you check to see if you used a referral? I can't remember if I did. I think I stuck Ref's name in there, but my memory is pretty hazy as I wasn't even sure I was actually going to play.
 
20Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Fri, Aug 17, 2007, 17:29 		Nope not in there. I don't know how to see who referred you, but your name isn't one of the ones who used my referral. Only matters if you win it all.
 
21Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Fri, Aug 17, 2007, 18:13 		mrbig - I know you are too good to be held down for long. Guru too, as well as others. I know that cold streak all too well (late May, most of June for me) but as my last few weeks will attest, you can turn it around just as quick.

Sadly RotoHog has effectively torpedoed my other fantasy teams (G20, RIBC to name two), and I think my Fantasy Football drafts will destine me to the same fate! I'm with Ender - this prize money is taking my soul! lol
 
22Ender
      ID: 1138421
      Fri, Aug 17, 2007, 19:18 		I have spent way more time than I ever intended to on this game. It hasn't cost me my other leagues, but it has been a chore.

Good point, Ref. I'm really not in position to take the 100 G's anyway. I am still hopeful of cracking the Top 10 and taking some $$$ home.

There's always football :)
 
23donk44
      ID: 42611019
      Fri, Aug 17, 2007, 19:47 		I never intended to spend as much time on RH as I have either, but then you start seeing that you have a chance at some big prizes...and you know the rest of the story. I doubt anyone has put in more time than me on this game.

I had lots of free time for it too, but unfortunately (actually probably FORTUNATELY) I don't anymore, as I started a new job 2 weeks ago. Though I don't think that has anything to do with my freefall lately. I was slumping even before I started that job. I have just been picking terribly is all. I need to stop the bleeding soon before Species or the Self-Esteem guy pass me by. Had over a 400 point lead at one point, which is now down to under 100.

I would have also figured out the reliever strategy I'm sure, but I still need to thank Alex for posting Aaron Brown's article. That got me thinking a lot more about the game and strategy, right off the bat.
 
24donk44
      ID: 42611019
      Fri, Aug 17, 2007, 19:53 		Re:6 follow up

yeah Alex, I kept checking your RH blog back in April I think, but couldn't figure out why you weren't posting anything anymore. I think one post even said you had been sick, busy with other things, etc., but that you would get something up soon. I haven't checked in months, but I'm assuming that was the end of the line for that blog.
 
25Alex
      ID: 8718115
      Fri, Aug 17, 2007, 20:27 		Am I the only one who didn't realize (and is shocked to discover) that donk44=yazmeisters/imdbcooper?

donk44 - I don't suppose you used my blog's referal code? It took about 4 days of RH to eat up all my blogging time.
 
26 Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Fri, Aug 17, 2007, 20:52 		Just had a conversation with the CEO and he told me that they have checked every player who was traded and even though they had the wrong team. then still locked when their new team played. For instance Kendall played this afternoon but you couldn't put him into your lineup today after the game-e-ven though the A's have yet to lock. Teix was checked and no one even tried to subvert the integrity of the game.

He has a guy who's only job is to double check every single player's stats to make sure it's right now. The stat provider is atrocious and they've dumped them as soon as baseball season is over. Football has the same provider as ESPN, yahoo, CBS, etc. and the stats will update live for the premium package. Also after this baseball season, you won't be able to sell at the lock times anymore. Sounds like they've put a lot of work into this and it's building. They are even more funded than before and the prizes are continuing to grow.

Lastly, he is able to read these boards from time to time--esp. this thread. He would like anyone who was upset about the traded players issue to email him so can talk to you about it individually. E-mail me and I will send you his address so he can email/call you personally.
 
27Pops
      ID: 5923858
      Fri, Aug 17, 2007, 20:58 		After today, Rotohog will be > work.


I had time to post, but not enough time to get KRoor Paps in my lineup.

Also, though i've had Webb on my roster for 9 straight days, I didn't start him today.

Screw work.

Rotohog for life.
 
28Alex
      ID: 8718115
      Fri, Aug 17, 2007, 22:12 		Wow...if Peavy pitches well, I'm going to have a humongous score today.
 
29donk44
      ID: 42611019
      Fri, Aug 17, 2007, 22:37 		Re:25

Sorry Alex, I didn't use your referral code (or anyone elses for that matter). I signed up pretty early on, and really don't remember much about the whole referring aspect of it. But if I could now, I would certainly use yours.

Especially if you would tell me to start Webb like you obviously did. I, of course, did not...argggghhhhh. Really thought about going with both, but just went with Peavy. %#@&!
 
30donk44
      ID: 42611019
      Fri, Aug 17, 2007, 22:48 		Re:28

Alex - you must have had some good hitters going tonight as well then. Only Pujols has done anything for me, and I didn't think that many other big name hitters had good days. What hitters did you have that did well ?
 
31Alex
      ID: 8718115
      Fri, Aug 17, 2007, 23:38 		Guerrero and Ortiz each had about 30 points (in 2 games each). Plus I loaded up on Mets and they all had around 8-10 points. I had Webb and have Peavy. Got relief points from K-Rod, Accardo, and Papelbon. Once K-Rod's win gets credited, I'm right at 300 points with Peavy through 6, and Russell Martin still playing. My previous high was around 215 in one day.
 
32Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Sat, Aug 18, 2007, 00:01 		Alex #25 - no, you are NOT the only one to be shocked that donk is DB Cooper!

donk - nice to know you didn't have Webb! lol But seriously dude, you have dominated most of the summer and are still, obviously the man to beat. Congrats on a great first 4.5 months.

Alex #31 - NICE night dude! After KRod's win I will be at 193.16 pts as I got NOTHING from hitters today. I have Holliday and Hoffman still in play, but I won't touch your killer score!
 
33Ender
      ID: 1138421
      Sat, Aug 18, 2007, 00:22 		That is a nice night. I'll take satisfaction from outscoring Species tonight (unless Holliday goes off), but I can't touch your score, Alex.

donk44, you had me as well. You have stayed quiet on which team was yours. You may have alluded to it, but I never picked up on it.

I'm soooooooooo tired of having Peavy or Young and having the freaking Padres offer up no run support.
 
34donk44
      ID: 42611019
      Sat, Aug 18, 2007, 00:40 		I thought you guys knew I was yazmeisters. I certainly wasn't trying to hide it. Guess no one ever asked me, though I thought you had a way of telling who was who through google or something.

Alex - forgot about Ortiz & Guerrero since I only played RP's in the DH. man, 300+ is some kind of night. I have 144 so far counting KRod's win.

Species - thanks, but don't know about dominating. I did have a good run for about 2 1/2 months, but the last month has been terrible. The most updated adjusted standings have Self-Esteem 44 points behind me, and you 173 behind. I could be in 2nd place by morning. Felt pretty good when I had a 400 point lead, but that didn't last long. You guys have been taking 50 point chunks out of me routinely, so I sure don't feel like the man to beat anymore.

did you play Webb & Peavy tonight Species ?
 
35Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Sat, Aug 18, 2007, 01:21 		Yeah donk, I did. Shows how pathetic my hitters were to only scrape by with 192-ish and Webb, Peavy, Papelbon and KRod!
 
36mrbig
      ID: 6336160
      Sat, Aug 18, 2007, 01:30 		I didn't realize donk44 was yazmeisters either. Extremely happy to see its another gurupie instead of some other shmuck!

I'm hoping tonight is the start of a turn-around. Webb, Peavy, Paps, K-Rod, Accardo. Hitting wasn't overwhelming, but I did have Dunn, Kent, Griffey, and Alou.

Perfect timing for my turnaround though, I'm out-of-town tomorrow night and won't have computer access, LOL! Guess I'll see if auto-pilot is better at running the team then I am!

In other news, what is the over/under for Webb catching Hersheiser? Still a ways to go, but its been an incredible run. 59 consecutive scoreless innings is mind-boggling for a starting pitcher. That's more than 6 straing complete game shutouts! Madness! Madness I say!!!
 
37TacoJohn
      ID: 422551921
      Sat, Aug 18, 2007, 13:07 		With my roster value dwindling to shocking levels and my spot in the standings ever falling I'm going to shoot for a weekly prize once I'm eligible again.

Congrats to those of you who are still in the hunt. I'm pretty new at this and I'm going to spend the whole off-season developing my system so you'd better be ready next spring.
 
38TacoJohn
      ID: 422551921
      Sat, Aug 18, 2007, 14:27 		Does anyone know if you can get a referral code for football or if you just have to do it via email sends?
 
39donk44
      ID: 42611019
      Sat, Aug 18, 2007, 15:46 		Re:38

I'm not positive TJ, but I think just by email invites.

Just checked the top 10 scores from yesterday, and I think someone posted the highest score ever - 503.36 points. Least that's the highest I've ever seen.
 
40donk44
      ID: 42611019
      Sat, Aug 18, 2007, 23:52 		sure glad that after skipping Hamels and Webb the last 2 days, I started Oswalt tonight, and he leaves with an injury 1 out short of a possible win. Hmmm, now let me think what ELSE can go wrong.
 
41Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Sat, Aug 18, 2007, 23:53 		I had him too if it makes you feel any better :(
 
42Pops
      ID: 5923858
      Sun, Aug 19, 2007, 00:03 		I had him as well.

Atleast Gregg and Paps didn't add insult to injury (maybe literally in Oswalt's case).

I also had Cordero.
 
43donk44
      ID: 42611019
      Sun, Aug 19, 2007, 00:04 		Re:41

a little. I guess him just pitching a good game and helping us both was out of the question. was actually thinking he might not get started by a decent portion of the top teams, so was hoping for a nice differential (?) start.
 
44Ender
      ID: 1138421
      Sun, Aug 19, 2007, 16:12 		My Beltran > Holliday move is looking spectacular!

Holliday is just starting so maybe he'll make me look smart yet...
 
45Ender
      ID: 1138421
      Sun, Aug 19, 2007, 16:22 		17 K and they pull Santana. I don't have the pitch count in front of me, but it must be high. He had a shot at 20!

Nathan better slam the door shut.
 
46Species
      ID: 43791021
      Sun, Aug 19, 2007, 16:34 		Nathan finished it off. 105.45 for Santana.

Did anyone NOT have Santana?

I had the double dip, so a practically perfect game for my Santana/Nathan combo.
 
47Ender
      ID: 1138421
      Sun, Aug 19, 2007, 16:38 		I double-dipped as well. It doesn't get much better than that.

Halladay and Sabathia didn't quite get it done, but were a respectable use of IP as well.

That Beltran switch is making me sick to my stimach right now.
 
48Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Aug 19, 2007, 17:07 		No Halladay or Nathan here - but I did have Beltran.

Almost went with Halladay instead of Santana. That would have smarted.
 
49Alex
      ID: 8718115
      Sun, Aug 19, 2007, 19:32 		I'm the one idiot who didn't use Santana. Today will suck.
 
50Species
      ID: 43791021
      Sun, Aug 19, 2007, 19:56 		Alex - ouch, sorry dude.

Isn't it amazing though how often a huge night like yours with 300 points gets followed so closely by a disaster? That was my June in a nutshell.

Saito with a sweet perfect save - 3 outs, 3 k's, 1 save.
 
51Peter N.@ ds'
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Sun, Aug 19, 2007, 20:05 		I had Santana today, but that about summed up my day. Thus, not a good day at all. No Beltran, Teixeira, Nathan or saves for that matter. It's been a decent month, but today sucked.
 
52Alex
      ID: 8718115
      Sun, Aug 19, 2007, 20:29 		So I guess most of you guys are having a 200+ point day?
 
53Species
      ID: 43791021
      Sun, Aug 19, 2007, 20:34 		A smidge under 214 - a fairly mediocre offensive day for me.
 
54Alex
      ID: 8718115
      Sun, Aug 19, 2007, 20:39 		Hmmm...If that's average, I guess its only a minor disaster for me. I'm at 169 with Pujols still playing. The good news was instead of Santana, I had Smoltz who was really good too. The bad news is I also had "King" Felix. Otherwise, a pretty average day with Ichiro, Nathan, and M. Cabrera making up for disappointing performances from some of my other players.
 
55Species
      ID: 43791021
      Sun, Aug 19, 2007, 20:43 		Not sure I'll be average though Alex. No home runs on my entire team, catcher still a void (-5 for Mauer)....lucky for me I had Nathan and Saito but that's about it after Johan. 160 pitching points today.
 
56Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Aug 19, 2007, 20:47 		244 plus Pujols.

Only starter was Santana. Saves from Saito and Hoffman (but no Nathan).

About 90 hitting points, plus Pujols. Beltran was big kahuna with 41.5
 
57Alex
      ID: 8718115
      Sun, Aug 19, 2007, 20:59 		Sounds like I'll lose 100+ to most people in the adjusted standings, since I used up a ton of innings. So frustrating...every time I'm about to crack the top 10 I drop back down to 17th or 18th.
 
58Pops
      ID: 5923858
      Sun, Aug 19, 2007, 21:01 		Wow, I've had a really subpar offensive day w/ only 1 player in double figures (Arod). Also, no saves to report and that really hurts.

I guess my wildcard is that I still have Z on the hill, but that can always go either way.

Go Cubs!...for tonight anyway.
 
59Alex
      ID: 8718115
      Sun, Aug 19, 2007, 21:02 		Pops - I keep meaning to ask...what is your team name?
 
60Pops
      ID: 5923858
      Sun, Aug 19, 2007, 21:05 		All-Star Annihilators
 
61Pops
      ID: 5923858
      Sun, Aug 19, 2007, 22:13 		Hmpm, seemed to have some great differentiation on my hands, blast.
 
62mrbig
      ID: 6336160
      Sun, Aug 19, 2007, 22:18 		Alex,

I'm stuck with you without Santana. Since I was out-of-town last night, I went with no starters yesterday or today. Definitely would have had Santana, but oh well. Stuff really seems to go bad when I'm not around the computer! Just after the all-star break I had 3 pitchers throw 70 pt games on the same day, but all were on my bench because I unexpectedly did not have internet access when out-of-town.

Live and learn:-)
 
63Pops
      ID: 5923858
      Sun, Aug 19, 2007, 22:19 		Hmpm, seemed to have some great differentiation on my hands, blast.
 
64Ender
      ID: 1138421
      Sun, Aug 19, 2007, 23:22 		I had 301.5 including Pujols -1.85. That's comparatively better than I thought it would be.

I'm still chasing you guys, but have made up some ground. I'd be happy just to crack the Top 10.
 
65KrazyKoalaBears
      ID: 15023167
      Mon, Aug 20, 2007, 09:13 		Woohoo! Finally cracked the Top 100. Smoltz helped make up for dropping Santana (picked him up too late and would have taken a bloodbath on the selloff).

Now if I could only stay in the Top 100... :)
 
66Pops
      ID: 505182616
      Mon, Aug 20, 2007, 10:46 		Hmmm

Locked out of Holliday.

Not a good start to a weak that ended on a very sour note (Zambrano).
 
67Alex
      ID: 8718115
      Mon, Aug 20, 2007, 11:13 		Great...now there are 3 players that I'll never get to use. I've been without ARod all season, haven't been able to get Ramirez (who I've used a LOT) the past few days, and can't get Holliday (who I sometimes use, but not that much).

Are you guys who have them just leaving all three in your lineup almost every day?
 
68Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Aug 20, 2007, 11:34 		Weather.com says 100% chance of rain in Chicago. Maybe the Cubs will gets washed out again.
 
69Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Mon, Aug 20, 2007, 11:55 		Alex #67 - it is cases like that where the strong RV actually does come into play. When I start selling off my guys during the day, I have enough excess cash to pick up guys EARLY who I want for the next day. I had Holliday since yesterday morning to guard against this problem.
 
70Crunch Bunch
      ID: 3136114
      Mon, Aug 20, 2007, 13:13 		I haven't been able to get A-Rod since I dropped him awhile back. Luckily, 3B is a position where the alternates can do almost as well (e.g. Braun, Cabrera, Wright).

I've kept Hanley to avoid the A-rod problem as it looks like it is getting tougher and tougher to pick him in the free agent market. Holliday basically sells out whenever the Rockies head back to Coors.

Since I'm down about 1000 pts in the real standings, guess my only option is to pick players that I think will outperform and who are on the road less traveled. Easier for hitters; for pitchers, it's much more difficult to pick up points as it really doesn't pay to not go with Santana, Peavy, and the other top pitchers as you just end up shooting yourself in the foot.
 
71Alex
      ID: 8718115
      Mon, Aug 20, 2007, 19:53 		My 'five Braves' strategy for today is working to perfection, except that only 4 of them are playing.
 
72Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Aug 20, 2007, 20:24 		I should have ignored the weather forecast. Decided to bench Pujols and drop Isringhausen.

Ugh.
 
73Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Mon, Aug 20, 2007, 20:43 		Five Braves?!?!? That's nuts! Nice job! lol

At least I have Teixeira - PHEW
 
74Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Mon, Aug 20, 2007, 22:11 		My dumb butt started marcum. Story of my year. At least I did have two Braves. Hudson was a waste, but Teix was huge. Also had Pujols. The rest have either stunk or not played much yet.

Btw, Species, Twarpy is up in the G24 draft.
 
75Pops
      ID: 505182616
      Tue, Aug 21, 2007, 17:53 		Haren's ERA has increased after each of his last 12 starts - and it's still only 2.54!
 
76Pops
      ID: 5923858
      Tue, Aug 21, 2007, 22:48 		Thanks Trevor.

Sincerely,

Not the Rotohog winner.
 
77Pops
      ID: 5923858
      Tue, Aug 21, 2007, 22:54 		Oh yes, before I forget, I dropped Wags for you,

Forever a fan Trevor....forever!
 
78Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 00:25 		Ouch. I nearly had him but had Izzy instead. Thank you Cards comeback!
 
79Chuck
      ID: 54733162
      Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 00:45 		Tonight was a relatively good night, with only 1 major mistake on my part...

Thanks to:
Bedard (especially for not completely blowing up in the 7th)
Myers & Paps for saves
Valverde for 1 IP & 11.2 points
The Mets offense for getting Wagner the "W"
My 3 OF's for all hitting HR's on the same night (first time all year, I think)
Pujols for being back to form

No thanks to:
Me, who benched AROD in favor of Fielder & Chipper, who both did nothing
The Mariners offense for tacking on needless runs to ruin Putz's save chance
Freddy Sanchez for doing nothing the first time I play you all year
Hanley, whose point total peaked in the first inning.

Perhaps 235 points can get me closer to the top 30 (and top 10)... I can hope to make up 670 "real" points on 10th place before the season is over. :)
 
80Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 11:48 		Well I thought I would make a move last night, hitting on Bedard and 4 of my 5 closers - but alas, I treaded water (which is okay too).
 
81mrbig
      ID: 59522612
      Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 14:31 		Species, treading water is most definitely OK. Heck, I've been praying for it since treading air isn't working out too well for me:-)

Also had Bedard, 3 saves, and 1 good inning in a non-save situation. But my offense hasn't exactly been impressive (where for art thou A-Rod?). Still hoping I can pull things together, but jeeze!
 
82Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 16:40 		Treading air - lol - reminds me of that skateboarder falling in the XGames!! Ouch!
 
83donk44
      ID: 42611019
      Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 17:52 		I finally had a real good night yesterday, and like you, was also hoping to gain on the other leaders. Gained a little on Self-Esteem, but you Species just REFUSE to lose any ground ever !
 
84Pops
      ID: 5923858
      Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 18:46 		Sweet....I kept Street & and A's won by 3 w/ a save situation going into the 9th.

Uh, no.
 
85Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 21:45 		Damn! I knew I should have gone with Salty and Ramon Vazquez! Why didn't I listen to my little voice?
 
86Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 23:08 		ESPN just gave the quote of the night. Said "the 15 runs the Dodgers scored were more impressive than the 30 scored by the Rangers. Come on, it's the Dodgers!"

The 30 runs the Rangers scored were the most in 110 years! They only had 5 going into the 6th inning and 14 going into the 8th.
 
87mrbig
      ID: 6336160
      Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 23:20 		Species, did the same little voice also tell you to grab Garrett Anderson yesterday? If so, start listening to the voice!!!
 
88Ender
      ID: 5963859
      Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 09:18 		Kirkjian said Baltimore's pitching (ERA I assume) fell from 7th before the game to 11th afterward.
 
89Alex
      ID: 8718115
      Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 11:41 		This is getting closer and closer for the top 10...everyone from 7th through 17th in the adjusted standings is within 104 points!
 
90Alex
      ID: 8718115
      Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 17:37 		Anybody have Zambrano this afternoon? Seems like there were less SP choices today than yesterday.
 
91Ender
      ID: 1138421
      Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 22:04 		I had dodged the big negatives pretty well this year up until the last week. Hoffman got me for -28 the other night and now Wagner is going to kill me tonight.

Ref, if it makes you feel better, I took a flyer on Marcum the other night too. He had been good to me in roto for quite awhile. I figured it was a good matchup.
 
92Alex
      ID: 8718115
      Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 23:18 		Yuck. 39 points and only K-Rod and Kendrick in a position to still contribute.
 
93Alex
      ID: 8718115
      Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 23:26 		Spoke too soon. Kevin Gregg with a 10 run lead, making a negative contribution.
 
94donk44
      ID: 42611019
      Fri, Aug 24, 2007, 08:40 		Species has cracked the code
 
95Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Fri, Aug 24, 2007, 12:00 		Not exactly. I started Zambrano instead of my initial lineup of Hennessey. I would have burned 4.1 less IP and gained at least 30 more points. :(

That being said, each day where the adjusted standings lead is lessened is a good day. Yesterday just could have been better but I reached :(
 
96Alex
      ID: 8718115
      Fri, Aug 24, 2007, 14:32 		!@#$% 2/3 of an inning into today's games, things are NOT going well. After waffling back and forth on whether to risk the doubleheader getting rained out I took Beckett, Manny, and both closers. Beckett has walked 3 straight after allowing a hit... :(
 
97Pops
      ID: 5923858
      Fri, Aug 24, 2007, 21:42 		Species and I have literally gone 100% linear opposites in the last 10 days.

I was a few pts out of 4th in the adj. and now....eugh.

And I really hate day's like today when the DH guys like Ortiz go off and everyone who has to make up games obviously holds them.

The fact they have double digit games to make up has nothing to do w/ strategy, or at least not the strategy to jump on every single DH person.

Also, skipping Phillips today really pisses me off.

Oh, and while i'm at it, last time I skipped DH closers, Paps and KRod, (busy w/ work, not intentional) both had saves. Today, I play both Jenks and Paps and zilch!

C'mon Annihilators, lets go!
 
98donk44
      ID: 42611019
      Fri, Aug 24, 2007, 23:05 		Re:95

that just proves my point even more Species. you play Zambrano, he doesn't do well for you, and you STILL beat me by 85 points. 4th place is going to be quite disappointing after being in 1st for such a big part of the season.
 
99Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Sat, Aug 25, 2007, 00:51 		For fun, flipped through some of the old adjusted standings:

5/6: Me 1st, mrbig -42, you 5th -163
5/11: Me 1st, you 5th, you -187.2
5/14: mrbig 1st, me 2nd, you 7th -187
6/1: mrbig 1st, me -35, you 3rd -188
HOLY SMOKES: 6/11: you first, mrbig 2nd -9.86, me 5th -194.99!!

Geezus WTF happened between 6/1 and 6/11!!! lol

6/25: yaz 1st, self esteem -125, me 9th -404!!
7/1: yaz 1st, self esteem -89, me 9th -362

I think that's one of the last times Bandos posted the adjusted standings before dailyprojections.com got rolling.

Fascinating to see some of the old back and forth!

donk - when did you find our site here?
 
100donk44
      ID: 42611019
      Sat, Aug 25, 2007, 09:54 		not sure exactly Species, but I think it was pretty early in the season. maybe mid to late April. I just watched for a couple weeks though, so my first post probably wasn't until early May. that's just a total guess though.

I found it when someone from here mentioned it on the main RH message board as a good place to go to talk about RH baseball, though I don't recall now who it was.
 
101Pops
      ID: 5923858
      Sat, Aug 25, 2007, 19:52 		Awesome day not to start VMart.

With the way things have been going for me lately, if that's the only thing I have to complain about today i'll be extremely lucky!
 
102Alex
      ID: 8718115
      Sat, Aug 25, 2007, 22:09 		Really shot myself in the foot by taking Hudson today!
 
103mrbig
      ID: 6336160
      Sun, Aug 26, 2007, 11:35 		Mmmm, Brett Myers tastes like fried chicken!
 
104mrbig
      ID: 6336160
      Sun, Aug 26, 2007, 14:07 		June 1st was a good day, full of silly concerns like whether I needed to move to Texas to win $100,000.
 
105Pops
      ID: 5923858
      Sun, Aug 26, 2007, 14:19 		what do Uggla, Upton, Phillips, & Cano have in common?

All 2b I passed on that have hit HR's by 1:15 cst.

 
106Alex
      ID: 8718115
      Sun, Aug 26, 2007, 17:06 		Sometimes its better to be lucky than smart. I was pretty annoyed last night when I discovered that Bedard was sold out already around 11:20pm. Not so unhappy now!
 
107StLCards
      Dude
      ID: 31010716
      Sun, Aug 26, 2007, 17:56 		What time was Houston's freeze today? I sold Lidge apparently at 10:53 but sure I sold him after the freeze and go look now and I have an empty spot in my lineup instead of Lidge. I threw Saito in there for now, but can someone tell me what time the Houston game was scheduled to start? I did read they had a delay to the start of the game, but that has never effected a freeze before. Thanks.
 
108Alex
      ID: 8718115
      Sun, Aug 26, 2007, 18:05 		Stl - 3:04 plus 19 minute delay for ceremonies.

Your 1.2 point lead on me for 10th place may be toast.
 
109StLCards
      Dude
      ID: 31010716
      Sun, Aug 26, 2007, 18:37 		wow, that late eh. Guess I just totally blew that one. Wish it was Bedard I had sold too soon, so yeah Alex, I would say you should definitely outperform me today.
 
110Crunch Bunch
      ID: 10742520
      Sun, Aug 26, 2007, 19:49 		Had Bedard - bleh. Looks like Monday's schedule is messed up as it doesn't show Min/Cle playing.
 
111donk44
      ID: 42611019
      Sun, Aug 26, 2007, 20:59 		I'm sure just about everyone had Bedard, unless he sold out on you like for Alex.

So if you didn't have Bedard Species, then I'll be sure you cracked the code...lol
 
112Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 15:10 		They still don't have the Min/Cle players set up to lock at tonight's game time.

 
113StLCards
      Dude
      ID: 31010716
      Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 15:13 		I've noticed that too Guru and am wondering if I should forgo using any players from that game to save myself the possible difficulties that will likely arise.
 
114Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 15:40 		I've used Victor Martinez pretty much non-stop all summer. I'm just going to leave him there and see what happens. I suspect it will be fine.

Of greater concern is the opportunity for others to use this in a manner similar to the "Teixeira loophole".
 
115donk44
      ID: 42611019
      Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 18:39 		I just noticed that they have corrected the team name for Teixeira (ATL), so I assume the others are fixed as well.
 
116StLCards
      Dude
      ID: 31010716
      Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 19:02 		The freeze has come and gone for the MN game. Guess I am stuck holding since selling the player now will surely cause more problems. I just don't understand how they can allow these type of things to go unaddressed. I posted a message in their new forum asking how they would handle it and now I can't even get to the forum to see if the responded or not.
 
117Crunch Bunch
      ID: 10742520
      Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 22:06 		Re 116: Forums came back up but I don't see your post. Have the same problem with VMart/Sizemore - game has finished but I'm afraid if I sell them, they'll just disappear from my roster. Guess I'll have to hold them until tomorrow
 
118 ESYVE
      ID: 52714820
      Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 23:20 		I'll do a Kelly Shoppach check tomorrow--will be easy to identify the cheaters if there are any.
 
119mrbig
      ID: 6336160
      Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 23:46 		Looks like the Cle/Min players have been locked into place.
 
120StLCards
      Dude
      ID: 31010716
      Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 23:58 		Looks like the forums are going up and down at RH. What's funny is that when they came back up the category I posted in, the Rotohog problem, etc or whatever it was called, category was no longer there. That is also the one where people were complaining about the football drafts not working correctly so maybe they are doing some housekeeping on it or something.

Wish I had VMart today. Went with Posada who may be the only catcher that went negative today. Also pretty hard to find a bad 2B today as well.
 
121mrbig
      ID: 6336160
      Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 21:05 		Hmm, roster value is down to $710 after being around $950 a month ago. Not exactly helping things!
 
122Chuck
      ID: 54733162
      Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 22:35 		Roster value down to $1758 here (was closing in on 1800 the other day)... I'd be more than willing to trade you some RotoHog bucks for either points or innings... :)
 
123Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 23:10 		Did anyone NOT have Capps?
 
124Alex
      ID: 8718115
      Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 06:13 		Mrbig - I'm beating you in the race to the bottom as far as RH$ go....I'm down to $680. The odd thing is I'm doing great now, did well when I was short on $ for the first quarter of the season, but I was absolutely awful in the middle of the season when I generally had $750-$900 to spend, and could get almost any players I wanted.
 
125Alex
      ID: 8718115
      Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 22:31 		Anybody have either Harang or Oswalt? Seems like there were a ton of good pitchers who had pretty mediocre games tonight, and those were the only two who did really well. I thought I'd create some differentiation by using Shields, and am probably lucky it wasn't any worse than it was.
 
126ESYVE
      ID: 52714820
      Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 23:19 		Penny and Santana here...Ugly.
 
127mrbig
      ID: 6336160
      Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 23:50 		Oswalt, Matt Diaz (!!!), Berkman, Wright, but not much else. No saves so far, but happy enough to have avoided some of the other SP options.
 
128StLCards
      Dude
      ID: 31010716
      Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 18:19 		Anyone else having a total meltdown of pitching this week? I am pretty sure I am now negative points with my pitching for the week with Wagner's blowup today. Really unbelievable.
 
129Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 18:24 		Me too. I stink at this game. All the work for a couple of t shirts. BLECH!
 
130Ender
      ID: 1138421
      Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 18:50 		I was doing fine until Wagner today. Of course, I have stayed away from starters due to extremely limited access. Sometimes it's better to be lucky than good I guess.
 
131mrbig
      ID: 6336160
      Fri, Aug 31, 2007, 00:47 		I always like to mention when I pick someone out of the blue and it actually works out, so here was today's pick to click - Carlos Marmol. Who knew?

It wasn't all peaches 'n cream though, as Matt Capps did his best to hurt my night.

Still, it was fun to have Matt Diaz last night and Marmol tonight.

I'll be out of town for the weekend, plus out of town for a whole week in the middle of September (both times with very little internet access), so it will be interesting to see what happens with my team.
 
132Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Fri, Aug 31, 2007, 01:35 		Young, Wagner and Capps...oh my!

First time all year I've used Capps. Have had Wagner all week for neg. points. oh well.
 
133Ender
      ID: 5963859
      Fri, Aug 31, 2007, 08:21 		I got hit by Young as well. It was close to my best hitter night, but my pitching dampened it.
 
134Alex
      ID: 8718115
      Fri, Aug 31, 2007, 09:06 		Seems like a lot of us had Young.
 
135donk44
      ID: 42611019
      Fri, Aug 31, 2007, 18:25 		I think everyone had Young except Species & Self-Esteem
 
136Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Fri, Aug 31, 2007, 22:52 		Not that it helped me, donk
 
137Pops
      ID: 5923858
      Sun, Sep 02, 2007, 12:59 		Awesome...that's twice in the last week that i've started Bob Wickman.

After being confused as to why his price didn't move today, I used a free moment to check his status....

Yeah, nice!

I'll be lucky to finish top 7 after the last 2 weeks.
 
138Crunch Bunch
      ID: 10742520
      Sun, Sep 02, 2007, 18:49 		Decided to go with a hunch and play Glaus instead of Wright, Cabrera or Braun. Lovely.

At least I got A-Rod back after a lengthy absence - guess I can't sell him again as it took forever to get him back.
 
139Alex
      ID: 8718115
      Sun, Sep 02, 2007, 21:03 		Maybe I'm just more obsessed with RH than anyone else, but I hate waiting until 5am to see how you guys did each day. Anyone else want to start posting results early if you're on here anyway? I'll go first - 109 points today on 8G and 2IP.
 
140donk44
      ID: 42611019
      Sun, Sep 02, 2007, 21:45 		Re:139

No, I'm pretty RH obsessed also.

whooped me Alex

53 points on 9G & 2 IP, with Vlad & KRod still playing.

there weren't a lot of big hitting days, so you must have picked well there.
 
141StLCards
      Dude
      ID: 31010716
      Mon, Sep 03, 2007, 16:01 		Has anyone else been having trouble logging on? I keep getting a screen saying "we are currently uprading our payment center.."

I got that yesterday too but was still able to get to the site, but now I just keep getting that same screen.
 
142StLCards
      Dude
      ID: 31010716
      Mon, Sep 03, 2007, 16:03 		I don't know, now I've managed to get to my team.
 
143Bandos
      ID: 83452215
      Mon, Sep 03, 2007, 18:01 		I'm off to the undiscovered country. Have sold all my heavily owned players and am trying for differentiation to make up the 600 point gap between me and 10th place. Hell, why not. AT least Crunch Bunch got my A-rod...
 
144Alex
      ID: 8718115
      Mon, Sep 03, 2007, 20:48 		donk44 - Most of that 109 pts. yesterday was due to Braun (33 pts.) and Dempster and Papelbon each getting a save.

Not so good today...38 points so far with Ortiz and Crawford still playing and Figgins, Vlad, and KRod playing later. Using a total of 8 hitters, and have only 1 IP used so far.
 
145Alex
      ID: 8718115
      Mon, Sep 03, 2007, 21:22 		Oops...just realized why I haven't heard much about Figgins lately. Guess I only have 7 hitters today.
 
146donk44
      ID: 42611019
      Mon, Sep 03, 2007, 23:17 		Re:144

another poor hitting day. looks like 65 points for me (counting Paps save) with 8G and 1 IP.

were a lot of good SP's going today, but wasn't crazy about any of them. my gut said to go with Sabathia since he has dominated the Twinkies this year, but couldn't pull the trigger going against Santana. Rats.