| Posted by: Guru
- [330592710] Mon, Feb 11, 2008, 16:30
I have sent out 16 invitations for the 2008 RotoGuru Invitational Baseball Challenge. Thus far, I have 15 acceptances. I have yet to hear from Bash Brothers, who finished second in one of the AAA leagues.
As background, the RIBC invitations went to the top 6 in last year’s RIBC, plus the top three teams in each of the two AAA leagues, plus the winner of each of two AA leagues, plus me. One of the AAA leagues had a tie for 3rd place, and rather than trying to break that tie, I have invited both of those teams.
Here are the 16 managers in the 2008 RIBC: StLCards SANFORDORS Building 7 Tosh Blue Hen Flying Polack JL slackjawed yokel JeffG Taxman Bash Brothers (pending acceptance) Uptown Bombers RoboGuru Coldwater Coyotes dror Guru
If Bash Brothers should decline (or not be heard from), then I will decide on one additional manager TBD.
A separate thread will be set up shortly to begin the process of filling Qualifying Leagues.
The schedule presents an extra challenge this season. The first two regular season games are in Tokyo on March 25-26 (Boston vs. Oakland). If we want to include those games, we should aim to finish the draft by that time. Using last year’s draft timing as a guideline (16 days), we should aim to begin the draft no later than March 7. We could, of course, opt to exclude those games and delay the draft for another week.
Do I hear any preferences one way or the other? Is a draft from March 7-23 palatable to everyone?
I’ll post a recap of last year’s rules and settings shortly. I don’t think we have a need to change anything for this year.
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| 1 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Mon, Feb 11, 2008, 16:42
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These appear to be consistent with the Yahoo settings from last year's league:
Season Type: Full Draft Type: Offline Draft Max Teams: 16 Scoring Type: Rotisserie Player Universe: All baseball Max Moves: No maximum Max Trades: No maximum Trade Reject Time: 1 Trade End Date: August 24, 2008 Waiver Time: 2 days Can't Cut List Provider: None Trade Review: Commissioner Post Draft Players: Follow Waiver Rules Max Games Played: 162 Max Innings Pitched: 1350 Weekly Deadline: Daily - Tomorrow Start Scoring on: Monday, Mar 24 Roster Positions: C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, CI, MI, OF, OF, OF, OF, Util, SP, RP, P, P, P, P, P, P, P, BN, BN, BN, BN Stat Categories: R, RBI, SB, OBP, SLG, W, SV, K, ERA, WHIP
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| 2 | blue hen
ID: 16322314 Mon, Feb 11, 2008, 18:19
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I'd like to start the draft a few days earlier, just to be sure it doesn't interfere with a vacation I have scheduled starting March 22. But I am fine if that's not acceptable.
I have no problem with the rules.
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| 3 | Tosh Leader
ID: 057721710 Mon, Feb 11, 2008, 18:27
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The settings are great with me.
I have no problem starting the draft at any time.
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| 4 | Flying Polack Sustainer
ID: 378582811 Mon, Feb 11, 2008, 18:44
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I'll be out of town 2/28 to 3/2. I can start the draft anytime after that.
For rule changes, I'd vote to have an IR slot or two. Otherwise I have no compliants from last season.
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| 5 | JeffG Leader
ID: 01584348 Mon, Feb 11, 2008, 22:21
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I'm good with the proposed draft date of 3/7 and think we should aim to be ready when the first pitch is thrown on 3/25 at 5AM ET. I'm also ok if the draft start moved a couple of days up to accommodate blue hen. Keeping the settings unchanged from last year is my preference.
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| 6 | Uptown Bombers Donor
ID: 035616416 Mon, Feb 11, 2008, 22:35
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Ditto what JeffG said in post 5.
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| 7 | Bandos Sustainer
ID: 279492419 Tue, Feb 12, 2008, 00:07
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If the AAA peons have any say, Yahoo is now offering Quality Starts as a stat. I suggest it would be much better than Wins.
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| 8 | Slackjawed Yokel
ID: 25105466 Tue, Feb 12, 2008, 00:17
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I'm in a training class the week of March 3-7, and it'll be very difficult for me to make picks during the day that week. I'll have access at night, and wouldn't be opposed to starting earlier without a clock...
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| 10 | Taxman SuperDude
ID: 029463114 Tue, Feb 12, 2008, 02:49
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Ditto posts 5 & 6
If being ready by March 25th requires moving the draft up..shortening the clock..I support all tactics that accomplishes completion of draft by the 21st or 22nd to allow time for any waiver moves that may be required before opening day (yahoo will require added players be added by 24th)
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| 11 | JeffG Leader
ID: 01584348 Tue, Feb 12, 2008, 08:59
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Re [7] wins vs quality starts. Interesting thought, but personally, I'd prefer wins only because QS would diminish the usefulness of middle relievers even more, and turn the category into something like saves where only a small portion of our pitching staff would be able to contribute to a single category. I kind of like that our current roster configuration requires a mix of starters, closers, and MRs.
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| 12 | blue hen
ID: 16322314 Tue, Feb 12, 2008, 09:36
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Agree with post [11] although sometimes I wish they'd give the Cy Young to the guy with the most quality starts.
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| 13 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Tue, Feb 12, 2008, 11:57
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Re: Quality starts vs. wins.
I tend to agree with JeffG's comments in [11]. It would also diminish the value of closers, since they also get a few wins that would no longer be worth anything.
I am willing to bring this to a vote if there is interest, however.
And if any QL wants to differ and use QS in lieu of wins, that's also OK by me.
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| 14 | Khahan
ID: 46121614 Tue, Feb 12, 2008, 12:45
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If the AAA leagues have any sort of input for this, I would be against it as well. JeffG said it best.
Plus a QS is meaningless if your team still loses. They have their place as a valuable tool but just don't hold interest for me as a category.
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| 15 | Taxman SuperDude
ID: 029463114 Tue, Feb 12, 2008, 13:39
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Quality Starts also discards value of the non-SP and non-closer vulture win. W category does add value potential to more pitchers...a potential solution in a deep mixed league to counter effect of absence (injury/bad drafting) great SP.
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| 16 | blue hen
ID: 16322314 Tue, Feb 12, 2008, 15:26
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Plus a QS is meaningless if your team still loses.
I'd say ratio of quality starts to non-quality is a better measure of value than wins to losses.
But this is a bad idea for RIBC. Vote no on 7.
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| 17 | Khahan
ID: 46121614 Tue, Feb 12, 2008, 15:37
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I'd say ratio of quality starts to non-quality is a better measure of value than wins to losses.
Is the object to win or to look good?
don't get me wrong QS is a great tool to help measure performance and ability. But in any given game which pitcher would you rather be:
Pitcher who gives up 6 runs in 5 innings but wins? Pitcher who gave up 1 run in 9 innings but lost?
QS is a tool to measure future expected performance. Nothing more. To me it is not a stat category to be accumulated.
Yes I believe in Sabremetrics. I'm a big fan of Bill James and Rob Neyer and many others who think like them. But QS is one of their tools that has been misused.
It would be like using hits/batted balls in play instead of BA or OBP.
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| 18 | Flying Polack Sustainer
ID: 378582811 Tue, Feb 12, 2008, 16:46
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Pitcher who gives up 6 runs in 5 innings but wins? Pitcher who gave up 1 run in 9 innings but lost?
So you think pitcher #1 pitched better because his team scored at least 7 runs? That's not logical, unless you conclude a pitcher has some influence over his teams ability to score runs.
That being said. I vote no to QS. Keep the same 10 categories.
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| 19 | blue hen
ID: 16322314 Tue, Feb 12, 2008, 17:12
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The quality start was invented by John Lowe, not Rob Neyer or Bill James. The most important part is here....
If a player hits a weak ground ball to first base with a runner on third base in a blowout, we still give him an RBI even though he didn't really do anything good. When a player hits a run-scoring fly ball in the ninth inning of a game in which his team is trailing by five runs, we give him an RBI and a "sacrifice fly" (and thus no official at-bat), even though the last thing he wanted to do was sacrifice himself. When a pitcher gives up eight runs in five innings but his team somehow manages to score even more, we give him a "win" even though he had virtually nothing to do with the positive outcome. And let's not even get started about the two-run, three-out "saves."
My point is that few statistics are perfect, and it's certainly unfair to hold the quality start or the save -- or for that matter, the "hold" -- to a higher standard than we apply to old favorites like the win and the RBI. I ask Lowe if he finds criticism of the stat frustrating.
"I don't get frustrated," he replies. "If people don't want to use the stat, that is their decision, not mine. I will confess, I am interested that folks would take the minimum qualification (6 IP, 3 ER) and project it as an average (ERA). It's like saying a pitcher can get a win when he allows six runs in six innings. That's a 9.00 ERA. Under this logic, someone could say, 'What kind of a stat is wins? You can have an ERA of 9.00 and get them.'"
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| 20 | Khahan
ID: 486552412 Tue, Feb 12, 2008, 18:19
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Flying Polack, I never said the guy who gave up 7 runs pitched better. I asked which one would you rather be? Not in a fantasy league, but in real life?
And BH, I never said who invented it. Just pointing out that I am not an 'old school fogey' who is against progressive thinking. I whole heartedly embrace it. I just believe a stat like QS has its place. I haven't even criticized it.
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| 21 | Building 7
ID: 471052128 Wed, Feb 13, 2008, 17:13
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I would not change much to the RIBC. Keep wins, even though I never get that many. I might request to add one DL slot. And I might request to reduce the waiver time by a day. But, I don't know that there's any interest in that.
I might start the draft a couple days earlier or start it earlier without the clock.
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| 22 | Bash Brothers
ID: 23755618 Thu, Feb 14, 2008, 04:56
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Dear Guru,
May I just skip this year's tournament but retain a spot in RIBC 2009? I'll have a busy schedule this year and might not be able to compete in full strength.
Well, if the answer is no, then COUNT ME IN!!
Thanks
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| 23 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Thu, Feb 14, 2008, 10:21
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BB[22] - email sent.
I cannot reserve a spot for the 2009 RIBC, as that would mean someone else who had qualified based on 2008 performance would be denied. I could only hold open a priority slot for a 2009 AAA league.
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| 24 | I hate Philadelphia
ID: 1111879 Thu, Feb 14, 2008, 10:26
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Finished second in AA and would love to be that additional manager if it exists.
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| 25 | JTSERB
ID: 110592811 Thu, Feb 14, 2008, 21:43
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7th in AAA last year, if need another member guru
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| 26 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Sat, Feb 16, 2008, 10:42
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Bash brothers has confirmed via email that he is in.
So the league is set.
I will be vacationing in Florida next week, so I'd prefer to wait until after that to begin the process of selecting draft order. Let's plan on that exercise during the week of Feb. 25.
My thinking is that we'll start the draft on Wednesday, March 5 on an untimed basis. The clock will commence on Friday, March 7, and run continuously thereafter, including weekends. Consistent with last year, we'll use a 6 hour clock, with a moratorium from 1am-7am ET.
The only rules issue that seems to have any support is the addition of a DL slot. As I recall, several years ago we added an extra bench slot in lieu of adding a DL slot. But I'm willing to put this issue to a vote again. I'll do that in a separate post.
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| 27 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Sat, Feb 16, 2008, 12:18
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Let me frame the vote this way, to make it as comprehensive as possible:
Regarding a DL slot: (A) Continue with 4 bench slots, and add one DL slot (B) Reduce the bench to 3 slots, and add one DL slot (C) Reduce the bench to 3 slots, and add 2 DL slots (D) Make no changes (4 bench slots, no DL slots)
Go ahead and cast your vote (for the 16 managers in the RIBC only). Rather than selecting only one choice, please rank your top three choices (1-2-3)
If any of the QL's want to hold their own vote on this issue, they are welcome to do so. It is permissible for a QL to deviate from the RIBC on this rule.
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| 28 | dror
ID: 5283329 Sat, Feb 16, 2008, 12:25
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1. (A) 2. (D) 3. (C)
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| 29 | JL
ID: 481431611 Sat, Feb 16, 2008, 12:43
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1. D 2. A 3. C
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| 30 | JeffG
ID: 47112621 Sat, Feb 16, 2008, 14:43
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1. D 2. A
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| 31 | Building 7
ID: 48033121 Sat, Feb 16, 2008, 16:46
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1. A 2. D 3. C
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| 32 | blue hen Leader
ID: 710321114 Sat, Feb 16, 2008, 16:51
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1. D 2. A 3. C
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| 33 | Tosh Leader
ID: 057721710 Sat, Feb 16, 2008, 21:20
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1. D 2. A 3. C
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| 34 | StLCards Dude
ID: 31010716 Sat, Feb 16, 2008, 21:29
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1. D 2. A
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| 35 | Flying Polack Sustainer
ID: 378582811 Sat, Feb 16, 2008, 21:40
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1. (A) 2. (C) 3. (D)
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| 36 | Taxman SuperDude
ID: 029463114 Sun, Feb 17, 2008, 01:39
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1.D 2.B 3.C
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| 37 | Bash Brothers
ID: 23755618 Sun, Feb 17, 2008, 20:04
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1.A 2.D 3.C
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| 38 | Dave R SuperDude
ID: 3010361110 Sun, Feb 17, 2008, 21:51
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1.A 2.D 3.C
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| 39 | JeffG Leader
ID: 01584348 Mon, Feb 18, 2008, 08:19
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Scoreboard for everyone's first choice.
(A) Continue with 4 bench slots, and add one DL slot - 5 votes dror, Building 7, Flying Polack, Bash Brothers, Dave R (SANFORDORS)
(D) Make no changes (4 bench slots, no DL slots) - 6 votes JL, JeffG, Blue Hen, Tosh, StLCards, Taxman
Did not vote yet - 5 slackjawed yokel Uptown Bombers RoboGuru Coldwater Coyotes Guru
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| 40 | coldwater coyotes
ID: 570432817 Mon, Feb 18, 2008, 15:51
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A
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| 41 | Uptown Bombers Donor
ID: 035616416 Mon, Feb 18, 2008, 21:07
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1. D 2. A 3. C
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| 42 | Slackjawed Yokel
ID: 25105466 Mon, Feb 18, 2008, 23:17
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1. A 2. D 3. B
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| 43 | RoBoGuRu
ID: 53123191 Tue, Feb 19, 2008, 02:24
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A B D
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| 44 | StLCards Dude
ID: 31010716 Tue, Feb 19, 2008, 09:23
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If we use option A I think we should first spell out what putting someone on IR means. The standard Yahoo setting allows you to keep a player on IR even after he is playing again, which to me isn't the intended use of IR.
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| 45 | StLCards Dude
ID: 31010716 Tue, Feb 19, 2008, 09:25
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That should say DL, I'm still thinking football.
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| 46 | blue hen
ID: 16322314 Tue, Feb 19, 2008, 09:59
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Agree with Cards. We actually set up ESPN with a "manage your DL" link because of all the issues surrounding DL management. That's my biggest issue with option A, is that it really just seems like a loophole to get extra players.
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| 47 | Building 7
ID: 471052128 Tue, Feb 19, 2008, 10:23
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You can keep the guy on the DL, but you cannot make any transactions whatsoever until you remove him from the DL. Plus if the guy is any good, why do you want to carry him on the DL and not use him? That situation can happen, but it doesn't usually last for a long time.
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| 48 | Flying Polack Sustainer
ID: 378582811 Tue, Feb 19, 2008, 10:26
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I think Yahoo's current system manages the DL just fine. If you have a player on the DL who is no longer on the MLB DL they won't let you make another roster moves until you release a player.
I suppose you could game if you really wanted to and you were happy with your current roster. I think the biggest issue is just having people log in to see their player is no longer on the DL.
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| 49 | JeffG Leader
ID: 01584348 Tue, Feb 19, 2008, 10:47
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With an additional slot for the DL, you still will only have 25 players on your active roster, and a 26th if one of them is sitting on the DL. There is nothing that forces you to activate that player once they leave the real MLB DL, but you will not be able to make any other roster transaction, until you do. Of course an active MLB player on your fantasy DL can produce no statistics for you.
My office league uses Yahoo and plays with one DL slot. If you have a player on the DL, in order to activate that player when they come off the DL, you must drop someone else from your roster to first create an open spot. The only loophole I feel is after the drop, and before you activate that player from DL to active roster, you can pick up someone else from the FA/Waiver pool who is on the DL to fill your 'open' slot. Then just swap that person to the DL slot with the one you are activating off the DL. One other trick people do is if they have no players on the DL slot, when the make a roster move for an add/drop, after they drop a player, they first pick up someone on the DL to fill their roster, then move that player to their DL, then pick up an additional player.
I just want to make sure everyone knows these tricks if option A wins.
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| 50 | Flying Polack Sustainer
ID: 378582811 Tue, Feb 19, 2008, 11:09
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We could add an amendment that for a player to be placed on the DL he must have been on your roster a preceding # of days.
We could also wait until April 15th or so to make anyone DL eligible. That way if you draft someone who you know will start the season on the DL, you don't garner an extra roster spot in early April when player movement is very volatile.
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| 51 | RoBoGuRu
ID: 53123191 Wed, Feb 20, 2008, 01:13
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i personally dont see anything wrong with the current DL settings and see managers that take advantage of them in any way as smart...ur not doing anything wrong if u keep someone on DL when they are back...and ur not doing anything wrong if u pick someone up and move them directly to ur DL...ur being a savvy manager that doing what u feel will help ur team the most...
we all know the possible positives and negatives a team experiences by using the DL "incorrectly"...personally i feel they offset each other and it is up to that individual owner...
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| 52 | Taxman SuperDude
ID: 029463114 Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 10:12
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Post 27..Guru notes that an extra bench slot was added several years ago to address the DL issue.
With 16 managers, the pool of players available (not already rostered) is very limited. Adding a DL will be another bench slot for a number of managers because someone else not having access to a player does help you maintain status quo. When behind and needing to address a category short-coming, there will be 16 fewer choices.
Should a player go on the DL, if he is good enough, you will keep him. Adding a DL just gums up the ability to improve your team via FA players.
Not having the DL allows a manager to invest a bench spot in a player that can be helpfull 60 days later, rather than giving that players owner a free ride during the injury period. WE all know how many players hit hot streaks and cold streaks and there is definite value in playing the FA add/drop game based on players scheduled for Coors or Franklin.
Adding a DL seems to be completely w/o merit in a l6 manager league.
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| 53 | blue hen
ID: 16322314 Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 10:28
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Agree wholeheartedly with everything Taxman said. It just makes the waiver wire thinner.
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| 54 | Building 7
ID: 471052128 Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 12:33
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This is correct. The additional DL slot would reduce the number of free agents from 588 to 572.
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| 55 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 17:33
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The voting was very close. Prior to my vote, there are 8 votes to add a DL slot, and 7 votes to leave things unchanged. My preference would also be to leave things unchanged - following the reasoning outlined by Taxman in [52].
That leaves the vote as 8-8. Looking at the way people ranked their votes, there is no compelling way to use that as a tiebreaker. One could argue that (A) got more 2nd place votes than choice (D), but the difference is very slight.
Therefore, lacking any clear consensus for change, I'm going to decide that we make no rule change this year.
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| 56 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 17:40
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The next agenda item is to select the draft order. To set the order for this selection round, I need two ordered sets of the integers 1-16 from two different RIBC managers. The first will be used to resequence an alphabetical list of managers, and the second will define the selection order.
Meanwhile, three people still need to register for the draft at kafenatid.net. I know you all got your instructions, because they were in the same email as the Yahoo sign-up instructions, and the Yahoo league is full.
Here are the three who have not yet registered for the draft: Bash Brothers JL Taxman
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| 57 | Uptown Bombers Donor
ID: 035616416 Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 17:53
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set of numbers sent
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| 58 | StLCards Dude
ID: 31010716 Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 18:14
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random numbers sent
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| 59 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 19:57
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The first set of numbers arrived from Uptown Bombers: 10 12 7 16 11 9 8 14 1 3 6 2 5 4 15 13
The second set came from StLCards: 8 15 6 13 7 9 4 11 10 2 12 1 3 16 14 5
Here is the resulting selection order: 1 Blue Hen 2 Bash Brothers 3 Uptown Bombers 4 Building 7 5 Coldwater Coyotes 6 RoboGuru 7 StLCards 8 JL 9 SANFORDORS 10 Flying Polack 11 Guru 12 dror 13 Taxman 14 Tosh 15 slackjawed yokel 16 JeffG
Blue Hen is up to select his draft position.
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| 60 | JL
ID: 221292519 Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 20:29
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What is the league ID for Kafenatid? I'm assuming that the password is the same as Yahoo.
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| 61 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 22:17
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kafenatid league ID is 215
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| 62 | blue hen
ID: 16322314 Tue, Feb 26, 2008, 12:29
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Blue Hen selects:
Pick 12
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| 63 | Bash Brothers
ID: 59147244 Tue, Feb 26, 2008, 16:37
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Pick 5
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| 64 | JeffG Leader
ID: 01584348 Tue, Feb 26, 2008, 16:46
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Draft order 1 2 3 4 5 Bash Brothers 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 blue hen 13 14 15 16
Remaining selection order Uptown Bombers Building 7 Coldwater Coyotes RoboGuru StLCards JL SANFORDORS Flying Polack Guru dror Taxman Tosh slackjawed yokel JeffG
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| 65 | Uptown Bombers Donor
ID: 035616416 Tue, Feb 26, 2008, 16:50
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Guru, I am here. Will pick for myself.
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| 66 | Uptown Bombers Donor
ID: 035616416 Tue, Feb 26, 2008, 17:15
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Draft order 1 2 3 Uptown Bombers 4 5 Bash Brothers 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 blue hen 13 14 15 16
Remaining selection order Building 7 Coldwater Coyotes RoboGuru StLCards JL SANFORDORS Flying Polack Guru dror Taxman Tosh slackjawed yokel JeffG
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| 67 | Building 7
ID: 48033121 Tue, Feb 26, 2008, 19:09
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Draft order 1 Building 7 2 3 Uptown Bombers 4 5 Bash Brothers 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 blue hen 13 14 15 16
Remaining selection order
Coldwater Coyotes RoboGuru StLCards JL SANFORDORS Flying Polack Guru dror Taxman Tosh slackjawed yokel JeffG
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| 68 | coldwater coyotes
ID: 570432817 Wed, Feb 27, 2008, 02:32
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#4
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| 69 | JL
ID: 4158277 Wed, Feb 27, 2008, 08:59
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I likely won't be available until early this evening to select a draft position.
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| 70 | Taxman
ID: 301502616 Wed, Feb 27, 2008, 11:51
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Draft order 1 Building 7 2 3 Uptown Bombers 4 coldwater coyotes 5 Bash Brothers 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 blue hen 13 14 15 16
Remaining selection order:
RoboGuru StLCards JL SANFORDORS Flying Polack Guru dror Taxman Tosh slackjawed yokel JeffG
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| 71 | RoBoGuRu
ID: 53123191 Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 04:09
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| 72 | StLCards Dude
ID: 31010716 Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 11:44
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Draft order 1 Building 7 2 StLCards 3 Uptown Bombers 4 coldwater coyotes 5 Bash Brothers 6 7 8 RoboGuru 9 10 11 12 blue hen 13 14 15 16
Remaining selection order:
JL SANFORDORS Flying Polack Guru dror Taxman Tosh slackjawed yokel JeffG
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| 73 | JL
ID: 52112818 Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 19:11
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Draft order 1 Building 7 2 StLCards 3 Uptown Bombers 4 coldwater coyotes 5 Bash Brothers 6 7 8 RoboGuru 9 JL 10 11 12 blue hen 13 14 15 16
Remaining selection order:
SANFORDORS Flying Polack Guru dror Taxman Tosh slackjawed yokel JeffG
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| 74 | Dave R SuperDude
ID: 3010361110 Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 22:47
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Draft order 1 Building 7 2 StLCards 3 Uptown Bombers 4 coldwater coyotes 5 Bash Brothers 6 7 8 RoboGuru 9 JL 10 SANFORDORS 11 12 blue hen 13 14 15 16
Remaining selection order:
Flying Polack Guru dror Taxman Tosh slackjawed yokel JeffG
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| 75 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 22:55
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I have Flying Polack's queue via email. He takes 7. I'll take 6
Draft order 1 Building 7 2 StLCards 3 Uptown Bombers 4 coldwater coyotes 5 Bash Brothers 6 Guru 7 Flying Polack 8 RoboGuru 9 JL 10 SANFORDORS 11 12 blue hen 13 14 15 16
Remaining selection order:
dror Taxman Tosh slackjawed yokel JeffG
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| 76 | dror
ID: 5283329 Fri, Feb 29, 2008, 02:32
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Draft order 1 Building 7 2 StLCards 3 Uptown Bombers 4 coldwater coyotes 5 Bash Brothers 6 Guru 7 Flying Polack 8 RoboGuru 9 JL 10 SANFORDORS 11 dror 12 blue hen 13 14 15 16
Remaining selection order:
Taxman Tosh slackjawed yokel JeffG
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| 77 | Taxman
ID: 301502616 Fri, Feb 29, 2008, 11:39
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Draft order 1 Building 7 2 StLCards 3 Uptown Bombers 4 coldwater coyotes 5 Bash Brothers 6 Guru 7 Flying Polack 8 RoboGuru 9 JL 10 SANFORDORS 11 dror 12 blue hen 13 Taxman 14 15 16
Remaining selection order:
Tosh slackjawed yokel JeffG
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| 78 | Tosh
ID: 341301413 Fri, Feb 29, 2008, 13:42
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Draft order 1 Building 7 2 StLCards 3 Uptown Bombers 4 coldwater coyotes 5 Bash Brothers 6 Guru 7 Flying Polack 8 RoboGuru 9 JL 10 SANFORDORS 11 dror 12 blue hen 13 Taxman 14 Tosh 15 16
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| 79 | Slackjawed Yokel
ID: 25105466 Fri, Feb 29, 2008, 18:28
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I'll take 15th.
Draft order 1 Building 7 2 StLCards 3 Uptown Bombers 4 coldwater coyotes 5 Bash Brothers 6 Guru 7 Flying Polack 8 RoboGuru 9 JL 10 SANFORDORS 11 dror 12 blue hen 13 Taxman 14 Tosh 15 Slackjawed Yokel 16 JeffG
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| 80 | Building 7
ID: 48033121 Sat, Mar 01, 2008, 23:42
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I'd be interested in trading down the first pick of the draft. If you can find something fairly equal on this draft pick trade analyzer I'll probably do it. My draft pick numbers are 1,32,33,64,65....etc.
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| 81 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Mon, Mar 03, 2008, 10:09
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I've been planning to activate the draft on Wednesday, with the first round untimed. I'll probably actually turn it on sometime tomorrow afternoon.
In recent Invitational drafts (for all three sports), we've been averaging about 24 picks per day. This baseball draft would require about 16 days at that pace, and that is how long last year's baseball draft required. So as long as we reach the recent historical norms, we will be in good shape.
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| 82 | RoBoGuRu
ID: 53123191 Wed, Mar 05, 2008, 08:24
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now that the draft has started...will we be doing a rationale thread?
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| 83 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Wed, Mar 05, 2008, 08:37
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Yes, but with a 2-round lag.
All discussion should now be moved to the Draft Discussion thread (where that question has already been answered, by the way.)
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