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Subject: Gurupie 20 2008 Discussion


  Posted by: Ref - Donor [539581218] Tue, Mar 25, 2008, 01:25

Supplemental Draft

Draft Recap

Draft Discussion

Pre-season Discussion

Waivers have been turned on. All teams are compliant. Order is set to the same base order of the S-Draft. You may pick up players right away but they will be on Waivers until sometime after midnight on early Thursday morning (one full day + on WW).

The season starts today. Lineups due prior to 30 mins. before first game each day.
 
1Great One
      ID: 1122611
      Tue, Mar 25, 2008, 09:33
A good start to the JD Drew era I see...
 
2Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, Mar 25, 2008, 10:58
To comment on PD's post in a prior thread. Three teams were flagged as illegal. I made bj's compliant. PD and Cards are flagged as they are short players from the draft. PD is short two and Cards is short one player. These teams are still legal and will still score points.

Officially your team must have 21-23 players--though it's flagged under 23 because some teams had under 23 in years past the whole season and didn't know it. We get a notice of all "illegal" teams and we ignore the ones who are officially legal and allow them to score points.
 
3Perm Dude
      ID: 7221257
      Tue, Mar 25, 2008, 14:26
And Species and I plummet to the bottom of the standings!

Looks like GO went above and beyond in his draft research.
 
4Great One
      ID: 1122611
      Tue, Mar 25, 2008, 14:29
Well I do need to make sure Alex Gordon is continuing to improve!
 
5Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, Mar 25, 2008, 14:50
LMAO!
 
6blackjackis21
      ID: 10272519
      Tue, Mar 25, 2008, 21:13
Thanks Ref - thought I was good to go, but been on the road and away from computer for a couple days.
 
7Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Thu, Mar 27, 2008, 10:20
That's it. Season's over.

Congrats to me for winning! Twarpy in 10th and Species in last. Man, how perfect is that! ;)

Waivers have run.
 
8Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Thu, Mar 27, 2008, 10:54
I'm bitter already. Embree was set up for the save until the stupid As score in the bottom of the 8th.
 
9Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Thu, Mar 27, 2008, 11:42
Don't be too bitter. Wood fell to you and I got a MR with my 1st. Still think Marmol is the better closer, but he's gotta get the opps or it's irrelavent.
 
10Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Thu, Mar 27, 2008, 14:34
Interested in Wood for Marmol? This isn't an offer, but I'm curious.

Marmol is supposedly the eventual closer. Saw Marmol pitch this week and he couldn't hit the broad side of a barn.

Toral
 
11Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Thu, Mar 27, 2008, 22:15
Good thing he wasn't pitching on a farm! ;)

Pete has sent down Maybin already.
 
12Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Thu, Mar 27, 2008, 22:35
Had a question about the Maybin drop.

Maybin is a prospect. He has been sent down. He has a salary. Don't pick him up or lose your waiver priority position for nothing.

When looking at a player, make sure to check the salary before picking htem up. Anyone who has a Salary of 1 is a prospect.
 
13Twarpy
      Leader
      ID: 386242821
      Fri, Mar 28, 2008, 01:13
Can't waiver position be manually reset if we make such an error, I think I have accidentally added a player once a year not thinking he was a prospect and missing the $1, and could see it happening to someone else. To lose waiver position could be a big blow, I know Yahoo has the tools to recent waiver position for these errors, does CBS not?
 
14Peter N.
      ID: 212122712
      Fri, Mar 28, 2008, 09:04
I didn't realize Florida management had a head on their shoulders. I still have my doubts about Maybin staying eligible as a prospect.
 
15Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Fri, Mar 28, 2008, 13:53
Of course WW can be edited.
 
16Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Fri, Mar 28, 2008, 14:36
Was reading the draft recaps. Some pretty interesting insights there. Thanks for participating.

Was reading darky's and I was feeling how much I would hate to have to rebuild so long. But I've had to do it in Hoops as my initial draft and teh ability to trade our first year was overstated IMM and I finally hit top 5 last year and was in position to win this year before injuries destroyed me. Still, all the hard work is really rewarding when it pays off and a lot of that is taking chances and getting lucky. I like to think that you make your own luck but we all know that's not entirely true.

What I do know is that Twarpy and Species both had horrible teams that they rebuilt (twarpy more than once) and look where they are now--perennial powerhouses. So more power to those teams!!!
 
17Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Fri, Mar 28, 2008, 14:58
I just checked CBS for my last question on lineup freeze coding a couple weeks ago...

Response (Corey P.) 03/13/2008 03:25 PM
I apologize, but unfortunately at this time that can't be changed. I will forward this to our programmers for future consideration, but at this time that is the best I can do.

Customer 03/12/2008 03:56 PM
One of the big issues with CBS baseball is the lineup deadline for daily lineup leagues. Currently it is 30 mins before the FIRST game of the day. Most sites allow changes up until 5 mins before the scheduled gametime. Even 10 would work. But it needs to be before each scheduled game, not the first game of the day. You have this coded in for football, why can't baseball be the same? It's tough for a Cubs game or the Red Sox Patriot game early deadline and then we have a west coast game that starts 9 or 10 hours later. Can you help or please explain why you can't or don't? Thanks!

 
18Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Mon, Mar 31, 2008, 15:47
Bad news: Buehrle getting hammered by the Indians

Good news: I didn't start him

Bad news: It's still a BAD OMEN! :(
 
19Peter N.
      ID: 212122712
      Tue, Apr 01, 2008, 00:17
Nice to see Sabathia get blasted in his first start of the year.

In other news, it took Twarpy all of opening day to jump into 1st place. I wonder how long he'll stay there?
 
20Twarpy
      Leader
      ID: 386242821
      Tue, Apr 01, 2008, 00:23
When they eliminate Pujols stats, probably later tonight.
 
21Peter N.
      ID: 212122712
      Tue, Apr 01, 2008, 00:54
Haha yeah, I didn't realize that when I posted. There's still hope for the rest of the league. ;-)
 
22blue hen
      ID: 16322314
      Tue, Apr 01, 2008, 09:45
Re: 17. I know of a site where you can have variable locktime. Either at the start of the day or at gametime (and not 30 minutes before gametime either).

And the keeper functionality (including trading picks) is much smoother.

And oh yeah, it's free.
 
23Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Tue, Apr 01, 2008, 09:50
I see that Yahoo! now allows co-managers. That has been an objection to using it in the past.

Toral
 
24Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, Apr 01, 2008, 15:44
WooHoo still in first!!! ;)
 
25blue hen
      Leader
      ID: 710321114
      Wed, Apr 02, 2008, 11:54
ESPN allows co-managers as well. And you don't have to pay extra for live stats.
 
26Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Wed, Apr 02, 2008, 15:46
We had searched every single year for a different site. No one else afforded some things we needed. Prospects is a big issue as well. But for what we're being charged at CBS, I think it's a shame they can't "fix" a couple things that seem so obvious. Other than that, CBS has been very good at most of the things they do. ESPN has been improving as well. I really like Yahoo! and if they are starting to step up, then they could be an option again (though live scoring puts them at about the same price as CBS).

So I guess we can look to see what those sites do for next year and act appropriately. We know what we're getting from CBS and we know we can make it work for us. If the other sites also work and make them more user-friendly then I'm all for it. I will say that I absolutely hate Yahoo! making you have to wait a day to use a player you pickup, but it is what it is.
 
27blue hen
      Leader
      ID: 710321114
      Wed, Apr 02, 2008, 16:14
If we're talking 2009, please make a list of everything you think you need and I Hate Philly will make sure ESPN has it for 2009. I'm not kidding.
 
28beastiemiked
      ID: 402141714
      Thu, Apr 03, 2008, 19:02
Oops on not calling up Cueto. He's definitely getting the callup but going to wait til a day before his next start to figure out who I'm going to cut.

 
29Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Thu, Apr 03, 2008, 19:25
I hear you bmd. I have the same issue with Kennedy, and am waiting to see a start or two before pulling that trigger.
 
30R9
      Leader
      ID: 02624472
      Fri, Apr 04, 2008, 00:07
One thing CBS for us that will likely be impossible for other sites to do is our league history. Always fun to be able to go back and see who finished where, or even who was in our league years ago.

Ref, 26: I agree on the Yahoo thing, probably the biggest annoyance amongst all the sites. Its 8 AM, I find out my 2B is hurt, I pickup a ww replacement... and I can't use him today? Pure nonsense.

On the team front, looks like I'm a walking (crawling?) hospital again this year. Sheff and Slowey added to Granderson, El Duque, Hill and Schilling. A couple of those were willing draft picks, but the two hitters hurt. :(
 
31blue hen
      Leader
      ID: 710321114
      Fri, Apr 04, 2008, 11:45
On most sites, you can enter the league history yourself.
 
32beastiemiked
      ID: 402141714
      Sun, Apr 06, 2008, 17:46
Please drop Ryan Freel and Add Johnny Cueto to my roster. Thanks.
 
33Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Sun, Apr 06, 2008, 19:29
Done.
 
34Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Sun, Apr 06, 2008, 21:04
Oldies but Goodies, I tell ya.
 
35blue hen
      Leader
      ID: 710321114
      Sun, Apr 06, 2008, 23:56
Man, aren't I supposed to be in last place?
 
36Great One
      ID: 4231419
      Mon, Apr 07, 2008, 15:31
I plan to stay ahead of Species all year myself. book it!
 
37Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Mon, Apr 07, 2008, 18:18
Those are lofty goals, boy! Bring it on.
 
38Great One
      ID: 4231419
      Tue, Apr 08, 2008, 15:40
Yeah, as long as Regal keeps booking himself in matches I'm good to go! Wait wrong league.

How about this for Utley's owner... CHASE UTLEY HAS TIED AN MLB RECORD FOR 3 HBP IN ONE GAME
 
39Tosh
      Leader
      ID: 057721710
      Tue, Apr 08, 2008, 17:12
Here's a good one. I think it happened last Friday in the BAL-SEA game. I don't know all the details, but this is what the Mariner radio guy was saying.

Brian Roberts was "thrown out for the cycle". He was thrown out at first, and second, at third, and at home in the same game.
 
40R9
      Leader
      ID: 02624472
      Wed, Apr 09, 2008, 03:05
#38, looking forward to the red cross next to Utley tomorrow. He can join Granderson, Roberts, Duchscherer, Hernandez, Schilling, Hill and Slowey. At least it makes managing my lineup easier!
 
41Great One
      ID: 4231419
      Wed, Apr 09, 2008, 14:31
How did he get "thrown out" at first? a pickoff? or are they just counting a normal SS-->1B groundout?

Thats crazy on the other ones, must have been swinging the bat pretty well to get that many extra base opps.
 
42Tosh
      Leader
      ID: 057721710
      Wed, Apr 09, 2008, 17:44
Now that GO made me look, I guess that the M's announcers weren't quite correct. It was the Sat. game.

1st inning - Roberts grounded out to pitcher. (thrown out at 1B)
3rd inning - Roberts walked. Roberts stole second. Roberts caught stealing, catcher to third (thrown out at 3B)
5th inning - Roberts grounded out to second.
6th inning - Roberts doubled to center. Roberts out at home on Green's throwing error (thrown out at home)
8th inning - Roberts walked. Roberts stole second, Roberts to third on Lopez's throwing error. Markakis grounded into fielder's choice to pitcher, Roberts out at home (thrown out at home)

So I guess he wasn't thrown out at 2B ... but was thrown out at home twice. Still kind of unusual!



 
43Great One
      ID: 2241519
      Sat, Apr 12, 2008, 12:07
Please call up Longoria, drop Hoey
 
44Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Sat, Apr 12, 2008, 17:34
Done
 
45Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Sun, Apr 13, 2008, 11:49
If you make a trade that involves draft picks and that deal isn't noted in the traded draft picks after your trade has gone through, please drop us a note. Sometimes we are not around or we forget. Once the trade goes through, so do the draft pick notations.
 
46Great One
      ID: 2241519
      Sun, Apr 13, 2008, 21:20
Its a good feeling when you look at your roster and every single one of your hitters has that little red note next to their name lol...

Side note - this Alex Gordon guy might be good some day.
 
47Great One
      ID: 2241519
      Sun, Apr 13, 2008, 21:27
Also, with Longoria's callup, I've got some extra useful hitters (i.e. 3B/OF Bill Hall and Jason Bay).
I'd like to use them to package and upgrade one of Dice-K, Buchholz or Oliver.
 
48Twarpy
      Leader
      ID: 386242821
      Tue, Apr 15, 2008, 14:25
I had a mixup with who I thought I clicked and actually got dropped I thought I dropped Tyler Walker but apparently dropped Brian Wilson, needless to say Ref fixed the problem and I'm back to normal, but he wanted me to post about the series of those transactions.
 
49blue hen
      ID: 30311814
      Tue, Apr 15, 2008, 15:29
/me claims Brian Wilson.
 
50Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Sun, Apr 20, 2008, 12:36
GL, is truly on the move!!!

Good job, bro.
 
51GoatLocker
      Leader
      ID: 060151121
      Sun, Apr 20, 2008, 21:06
Thanks Ref,
Yeh, it sure has been quite a week.

Cliff
 
52Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, Apr 22, 2008, 18:04
The deal is my 1 and 5 for his 9 and 10 for Soria.
 
53Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Tue, Apr 22, 2008, 18:22
Approved and noted in the Constitution.
 
54Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, Apr 22, 2008, 18:23
Actually, the league has a day + to vote against it.
 
55Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Tue, Apr 22, 2008, 21:14
lol........oops
 
56Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 00:18
My team = Tom Petty

Cuz I'm FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
FREEEEEEEEEE FAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLINNNNNNNNNN!

-29 points this week alone
 
57Great One
      ID: 233541511
      Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 12:26
Goatlocker is Learning to Fly
and GO is Runnin' Down a Dream!
 
58blue hen
      ID: 30311814
      Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 14:51
Blue Hen is Built To Last
 
59Peter N.
      ID: 212122712
      Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 16:00
We already know Pete's Making it Rain....cuz I make it rain on those ho's. ;-)
 
60Peter N.
      ID: 212122712
      Wed, Apr 30, 2008, 20:18
I would like to call up Max Scherzer and cut Mark Grudzielanek
 
61Great One
      ID: 2241519
      Wed, Apr 30, 2008, 20:24
Max who? never heard of him... I bet he'll be intimidated the first time he see's some real big league hitters! :)

Species. Wake up!!!
If I beat you this season, I demand you surrender me the higher draft pick as a penalty for disgracing the legacy of The Young Lions.
They are like Menudo... you can be replaced.
 
62Peter N.
      ID: 212122712
      Wed, Apr 30, 2008, 20:52
GO - He retired all 13 batters he faced, 7 by strikeout, in his ML debut against the Astros. :-)
 
63Great One
      ID: 2241519
      Wed, Apr 30, 2008, 20:54
Thats ridiculous. No human could do that in their first taste of the big leagues.
 
64blue hen
      Leader
      ID: 710321114
      Wed, Apr 30, 2008, 21:13
I swear to you, Peter N and I had a deal in the last two weeks to put Scherzer on my team. Still up for it?
 
65Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Thu, May 01, 2008, 00:22
[60] Done

 
66Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Thu, May 01, 2008, 10:59
I've called up Adenhart.
 
67blue hen
      ID: 30311814
      Thu, May 01, 2008, 12:30
I have a question for Goatlocker, PeterN, Darkside, bmd, Great One, and (especially) Species:

How's the view down there?
 
68Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Thu, May 01, 2008, 14:04
Darkside has sent down Hughes. I did check and he does qualify.
 
69Great One
      ID: 25422112
      Thu, May 01, 2008, 14:24
I'd love to trashtalk BH's team but since I lack CBS access that is impossible as usual. I don't know what the hell I'm gonna do when my team moves into contention next season and I can't set last minute lineups, scan free agents, look for trades etc. The points I'm just throwing away will actually matter next year. Need to get an iPhone then I guess but that'll be awafully difficult to afford right before a wedding.
 
70blue hen
      ID: 30311814
      Thu, May 01, 2008, 15:10
You can make ESPN moves on your cell phone. *cough*.

How are you going to trashtalk my team? I am ahead of you in the standings.
 
71Great One
      ID: 56438112
      Thu, May 01, 2008, 16:08
Ya know... "this guy is playing over his head", or "that guy sucks, you got lucky", or "I wish I had that guy" etc. I'm actually on pace to finish 700 innings below my pitching max, so my position right now isn't all that relevant (at least my pitching point totals). I'll be streaming some in second half of the season to boost my W's and K's. And my hitting half is pretty good. I'm happy there, just wish I had one more big RBI bat cause thats where I am lagging.

Doesn't ESPN actually have its own phone?
 
72Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Thu, May 01, 2008, 16:10
Keep laughing you pretenders! Keeeeeeeeeeep laughing now while you have the chance. Kick me while I'm down.....because eventually my team will get up and beat you all down like the bitches you are!
 
73Peter N.
      ID: 212122712
      Thu, May 01, 2008, 16:32
bh - ya know, the view isn't so bad when I look at my potential keepers compared to yours.
 
74blue hen
      ID: 30311814
      Thu, May 01, 2008, 16:40
Now that's the spirit!

Maybe I'll just capture this season to shut you guys up. Any old guys you want to trade me?
 
75Peter N.
      ID: 212122712
      Thu, May 01, 2008, 18:32
:-)

In other news, EARTH to Brad Hawpe. Pull your head out of your A$$$$$ and start doing something productive. Thank you.
 
76Peter N.
      ID: 212122712
      Thu, May 01, 2008, 18:34
Add Soriano and Swisher to that Earth call as well. My entire outfield blows. At least Hawpe and Swisher are getting walks. Soriano...UGH
 
77blue hen
      ID: 30311814
      Thu, May 01, 2008, 19:40
I just realized that I'd like to have a pick in this year's prospect draft. Anyone want Jose Tabata or Elvis Andrus? The price could be lower than you think.
 
78Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Thu, May 01, 2008, 19:46
Re: #66

Ref - I added the callup of Adenhart to the rules
 
79Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Thu, May 01, 2008, 23:10
re 76. I did too. Maybe in my rush to get out of town I didn't save them? Anyhow, it's his first call-up. He won't be up long. Not expecting much as he just threw 98 pitches 3 days ago.
 
80darkside
      ID: 181035120
      Fri, May 02, 2008, 09:39
blue hen - actually, it's a welcome change. I was starting to get a crick in my neck from looking down at you for so long, so it's nice to switch positions.
 
81beastiemiked
      ID: 402141714
      Fri, May 02, 2008, 14:06
Jack Cust finally doing something besides walking. It's pretty sick that his average is .222 but his OBP is .423.
 
82Great One
      ID: 56438112
      Fri, May 02, 2008, 14:46
Sounds like Rickie Weeks!
Though I did see that since his callup last August he has scored more runs than anyone in the league. So thats good.
 
83darkside
      ID: 181035120
      Sat, May 03, 2008, 10:13
Pretty awesome lineups were locked at 8:30 am this morning (they claim for a 9am first game?!?!).
 
84Peter N.
      ID: 212122712
      Sat, May 03, 2008, 10:25
Yeah, what a load of crap. What makes matters worse for me is that yesterday they showed Sabathia going Sunday, and now he's evidently pitching today. I can't put him in the starting lineup and its still 3 hrs before the first game at 1:05pm est. Man, CBS blows.
 
85darkside
      ID: 181035120
      Sat, May 03, 2008, 12:04
Looks like they fixed their mistake...
 
86Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Sat, May 03, 2008, 16:58
I had one window of opportnity this morning to change my lineup and it was already frozen!!! Bumming.
 
87Perm Dude
      ID: 2445738
      Sat, May 03, 2008, 17:03
I feel your pain. I wanted to get Jon Garland in today, but just missed.
 
88Peter N.
      ID: 212122712
      Sat, May 03, 2008, 18:52
Yeah, I had a final exam this morning and apparently missed out on when cbs, "fixed the problem." That sucks.
 
89Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Sat, May 03, 2008, 21:11
If this crap happens, what you need to do is post on here, or on our bbs or email all the commishs. State the exact move you want (activate or bench) and we will use the time stamp as our guide and we can manually fix lineups retroactively. I wish I had done this but I checked in later and just assumed there was a "patriot-like" early game. I didn't even have time to check on my TSN team.
 
90Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Sat, May 03, 2008, 21:17
I just looked at Pete's team. He obviously wanted CC in his lineup tonight. Luckily, since he didn't say who he wanted out, there is a SP not going tonight which gives him an obvious bench guy. So, I am allowing CC to replace him in the lineup tonight. Now don't get mad at me if CC gets shelled!!! ;)
 
91Peter N.
      ID: 212122712
      Sat, May 03, 2008, 21:34
As a member of this forum know, I shouted out my displeasure with the CBS early-lock for no reason. I had a final exam when CBS finally fixed it. Thank you to Ref for correcting the situation.
 
92Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Sat, May 03, 2008, 21:38
darky and pd, I'd do the same for you if you had posted moves before normal lock time. Sorry. I missed moves too so I can empathize.
 
93Tosh
      Leader
      ID: 057721710
      Sat, May 03, 2008, 22:53
So how in the world is my team of schwag in fourth place?

* I only have 1 player in the current rotowire top-58 (Carlos Lee at #15)
* I only had 8 legitimate keepers IMO
* Lackey's been out all season and Bedard went on the DL
* I have no closers
* I barely have a 3B (Jose Bautista)
* My round 1 pick (Fields) is in the minors
* My round 2 pick (Soto) was openly ridiculed by Ref during the draft
* My round 3 pick (FLopez) was a bencher the first 2.5 weeks

So now I need to decide if I'm actually a player, or merely surfing the wave named 'Cliff Lee'. If I think I have a chance to hang near the top all year I'll need a 3B and closer, and pretty quickly. But if I'm all smoke-and-mirrors, I should just enjoy the view while I can, and start planning for 2009 (like I thought I would be doing). I need Jobu to give me a sign.
 
94Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Sat, May 03, 2008, 22:57
Tosh, Just to clarify. I love Soto. I had him last year. I was going to take him in the 3rd myself. Just was surprised you took him where you did considering your needs at the time.
 
95Tosh
      Leader
      ID: 057721710
      Sat, May 03, 2008, 23:02
Ref - Just to further clarify, I had added a little 'winky' next to that note, then erased it. I figured this way you had to respond and openly hail the outstanding selection named Geovany Soto.

;-)
 
96Peter N.
      ID: 212122712
      Sat, May 03, 2008, 23:03
Thank you Sabathia.
 
97Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Thu, May 08, 2008, 16:21
Not to beat a dead horse...but I will anyhow...I had planned to callup Hochevar for today's game but the darn lineups had locked. I go and lookup what time the games started and it appears they had JUST locked. This half hour time is bad but not being able to change lineups for indiviudal games is wearing on me even more this year than most. BH set us up a team in ESPN and a few of us are looking at what needs added. Their programmer is also in the league to see if he can get the stuff we need incorporated before next year.
 
98Great One
      ID: 56438112
      Fri, May 09, 2008, 15:49
Species passed me. and now this... you should all be afraid!!!

TAMPA, Fla. -- Alex Rodriguez took 57 swings in batting practice and fielded 31 grounders at third base during his first injury rehabilitation workout Friday at the New York Yankees' minor league complex.
Rodriguez is on the 15-day disabled list with a strained right quadriceps. The three-time AL MVP, who resumed on-field workouts Wednesday at Yankee Stadium, could rejoin the team late next week.
A-Rod hit several long homers, including a pair that went over the center-field back drop. He also ran in the outfield.
Rodriguez said the session went "good" and gave a thumb's up as left the field for the clubhouse.
 
99Perm Dude
      ID: 5442688
      Fri, May 09, 2008, 16:14
Species has too much time on his hands...
 
100blue hen
      Leader
      ID: 710321114
      Sat, May 10, 2008, 19:52
Man, I'm not doing poorly enough. Stupid Matt Kemp keeps on hitting. And Encarnacion. And Martin (holy cow). I just might have a good core soon enough after all.

Still looking to deal Cordero/Rauch or Valverde. Let me know if you have something.

And oh yeah, Russ Springer is available if you want in on the Cardinal save buffet.
 
101R9
      Leader
      ID: 02624472
      Sun, May 11, 2008, 23:16
I'd like to call up Greg Reynolds, SP Col, and dump that wreck of a hitter from Detroit.
 
102R9
      Leader
      ID: 02624472
      Sun, May 11, 2008, 23:17
Oh right, I have many wrecks from Detroit. Lets go with Inge for now.
 
103Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Sun, May 11, 2008, 23:23
As posted on the website:

I'm TIRED of this CRAP! My team SUCKS! My draft SUCKS! Nobody can hit! Nobody can PITCH! My studs are HURT!

EVERYBODY but VMart, Teixeira, Upton, S. Drew, ARod, Felix, Kazmir and Street are UP FOR GRABS! Certainly somebody can use:

Cuddyer
Cameron
JD Drew
Giambi
Izzy (he'll get the CL job back)
Thomas
Arroyo (he's on the way back!)

SCREW IT! I'm toast! Send your offers in NOW. Prospects, prospect picks, and draft picks wanted.
 
104Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, May 13, 2008, 00:57
GO, your love affair with Olly didn't last long. Sold him for less than you got him just a couple months ago. But he definitely hasn't been as consistent as he was last year.
 
105Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, May 13, 2008, 10:52
I optioned Adenhart.
 
106beastiemiked
      ID: 402141714
      Tue, May 13, 2008, 15:38
If anyone is interested in Mark Prior let me know. I'll give him up cheap. He should be high risk/reward guy for rebuilding teams.
 
107Peter N.
      ID: 212122712
      Tue, May 13, 2008, 18:28
I relinquish my rights to Eric Patterson.
 
108Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, May 13, 2008, 18:40
Salary is off of patterson and he's on waivers.
 
109Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Tue, May 13, 2008, 19:09
lol.......and I had removed him from Pete's prospect list and was trying to remember how in the F to remove his salary! What teamwork!
 
110Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, May 13, 2008, 19:14
Yeah I knew one of you did it. I had to re-look to see if he was still a prospect.

Trades and picks pending have all been documented.

Species, just remember that to add/subtract a salary, the player must be on a team first. The it's locatd on the My Team page, not player page.
 
111Tosh
      Leader
      ID: 057721710
      Tue, May 13, 2008, 20:02
I wanted to bring Andrew Miller up to my roster on the day that he passed the prospect IP limit (110 IP). My poor math skills mean that I missed it by a day.

Activate Andrew Miller from prospects. Remove him from the rules.

Waive Vicente Padilla
 
112Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Tue, May 13, 2008, 20:57
Done.
 
113beastiemiked
      ID: 402141714
      Tue, May 13, 2008, 22:12
Vazquez for a 1st, 3rd and 1st round prospect? Did bh throw in a espn phone to make it fair?
 
114Tosh
      Leader
      ID: 057721710
      Tue, May 13, 2008, 23:46
My reign of terror has come to an end. I've lost over 30 points in just a week and a half and am back into 13th place.

Look out below. I'm coming your way Species!
 
115Peter N.
      ID: 212122712
      Wed, May 14, 2008, 02:00
Yeah, I think a subscription to ESPN the Magazine needs to be included in this trade. ;-)
 
116Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Wed, May 14, 2008, 12:15
Well, I agree that I overpaid for Soria, but I didn't see any other option at that point. I had to have saves and they were a limited resource (though if I had known Smoltz was going to be switched to closer I may have passed). But Vaz? Pete said he knew he was getting hosed going in but heck with it. Granted Vaz isn't chicken feed, but stats from his position are more easily accumulated and he even paid more than I did for Soria.

I am definitely not thinking of voting against it. Pete obviously knows what he's getting into. I am just surprised bh continues to get so much out of these guys. And you thought it was hard to deal with bh before....!!!! ;)
 
117blue hen
      ID: 30311814
      Wed, May 14, 2008, 17:13
Jon Rauch is officially on the block.

I do see Pete's point of view. Vazquez is far more valuable than say, Oliver Perez, because he's at a quality that you can't get off the waiver wire. There is no waiver pitcher that's going to do what Vaz can do, leading the league in strikeouts and have his consistency.

Pete's taken a good team and made it better without sacrificing any current players, and when the season's over he can trade Vazquez to a rebuilding team for a draft pick. Possibly even my team.
 
118Peter N.
      ID: 212122712
      Thu, May 15, 2008, 01:55
Here's my take on the trade. I am weak in ERA, WHIP, and Wins. Insert Vazquez and all 3 should get a nice boost. I also get an extra boost in Ks. The prospect pick doesn't mean much at all to me. Yes a 1st and a 3rd is alot to give, but those are the chances you have to take sometimes. Here's to a no hitter tomorrow for Javy. ;-)
 
119Great One
      ID: 2241519
      Sun, May 18, 2008, 14:31
This doesn't really warrant a thread... but...

Anyone know when the next time the Red Sox go to Wrigley is? they rotate the interleague I know... and they were there in 2005. So would they be back in 2009?
 
120blue hen
      ID: 30311814
      Mon, May 19, 2008, 16:55
Sweet, looks like Mike Jacobs is hitting again. Too many first basemen on this team.
 
121Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Sat, May 24, 2008, 00:43
Called up Hochevar for the first time.
 
122Great One
      ID: 2241519
      Sun, May 25, 2008, 00:36
Gotta say I'm pretty happy with Bay's return after a year off from top OF status... glad nobody took him off my hands when I was packaging him earlier this year at a discount.
12 HR's, 5 SB's, 35 runs, 25 RBI's w/ a 400+ OBP has been pretty nice.
 
123blue hen
      Leader
      ID: 710321114
      Sun, May 25, 2008, 20:32
No question Bay's had a good year and is back on track to where we thought he'd be a couple years back. I had him in RIBC last year and he had a terrible first half. But he always walked, so you had to figure he'd get some of the value back.
 
124beastiemiked
      ID: 402141714
      Mon, May 26, 2008, 15:51
Please drop Boof Bonser and call up Ian Stewart for me. Thx.
 
125Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Mon, May 26, 2008, 16:47
Done. 1st callup for Stewart.
 
126blue hen
      Leader
      ID: 710321114
      Tue, May 27, 2008, 00:24
Anyone who has prospect room - I am looking to get rid of one of Andrus or Tabata, and fill the spot with somebody who will help me sooner. Let me know.
 
127Myboyjack
      ID: 8216923
      Wed, May 28, 2008, 20:29
I'd like to call up Jay Bruce and drop Livan Hernandez, please.
 
128Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Wed, May 28, 2008, 22:10
Done and Bruce callup noted in the rules.

Yo mbj - do you regret the Hamilton/Volquez trade?!? I think Volquez is pitching a bit over his head....although admittedly a solid #2 (perhaps....I still have some doubts) SP is pretty valuable, Hamilton is just a monster.
 
129Myboyjack
      ID: 8216923
      Wed, May 28, 2008, 22:34
Thanks for the help.


Dunn, Hamilton, Bruce would have been amazing; however, I've seen enough of Volquez to believe he's not pitching over his head - he's a #1 starter. He's gamer and has been helped a lot by work with Mario Soto on his change.

With Cueto and Bailey, and a still relatively young Harang, the Reds have the making of an effective staff for the first time since 1990. They still have acouple of guys pitching in the minors and a couple of hitters that will be in the majors very soon and are + players. I look with hope to 2009.

I was disapointed to see Bruce make an out tonight. There was a poll on a Cinci radio station as to whether be retired. Votes were pretty even.
 
130Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Wed, May 28, 2008, 22:49
I knew Bruce was good but daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn. I like Vol a lot. He's a little wild at times and he lets runners on but amazingly has been able to pitch out of it most of the time. Dunn has to be one of the most underated player in baseball right now. I really like where the Reds are headed.
 
131R9
      Leader
      ID: 02624472
      Wed, May 28, 2008, 23:48
I'd like to send down Reynolds please.

Of course Volquez is pitching over his head, he has a 1.31 ERA! But he's been very very good, he's a potential ace, and Cincy definitely needed a solid #1/#2 SP more then they needed a big OF bat, even one who has been as good as Hamilton. In the end, that trade is looking like a solid deal for both teams, though Texas needs SP's just as badly...
 
132Great One
      ID: 56438112
      Thu, May 29, 2008, 09:05
Evan Longoria is going to play some SS? Well isn't that just useful... whohoo! I need one of those things like at Christmas where each day you pull the door up and there is a piece of chocolate for each time he starts there. How many games does CBS require? 10?
 
133blue hen
      ID: 30311814
      Thu, May 29, 2008, 11:17
Texas has bats worth playing - guys like Botts, Boggs, etc. They even felt Mench could be let go. Volquez would have helped them much more than Hamilton.

That said, Hamilton is a monster. If I'd had him in G20 last year, I would have kept him in a second.
 
134Great One
      ID: 56438112
      Thu, May 29, 2008, 11:22
His story is crazy, obviously we all know the drug problems... I found it interesting that the Rangers have someone with him at all times kind of like a bodyguard - except its to protect him from himself. I believe they even have someone that lives with him full time in fear of a relapse. He really must have some severe additictions.
 
135Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Thu, May 29, 2008, 11:33
131 done
132 5 this year 10 for next year (wtf chocolate?)
134 At least it's not like TO is going to mentor Pacman Jones

If you need a commish you might also try to email (all of) us just in case. Don't think we've been tardy to this point though.
 
136Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Fri, May 30, 2008, 16:51
If you like high scoring games, you should be wtaching the Rocks in Wrigley today. WInd blwoing out over 20 mph. Cubs just scored 9 straight runs to take a one run lead. Yeah they are only in the 7th. 10-9 Cubs and counting...
 
137blue hen
      ID: 0022514
      Fri, May 30, 2008, 22:49
We were watching this early, had a meeting, and all got back to our desks in the 9th. Collectively, everyone noticed it wasn't 9-1 anymore...
 
138StLCards
      Dude
      ID: 31010716
      Sat, May 31, 2008, 01:50
I called up Carlos Gonzalez for the first time.
 
139blue hen
      ID: 0022514
      Sat, May 31, 2008, 22:36
With Jacobs coming back and recent moves, I have hitters to spare. Kent, Wilkerson, and Cody Ross can be had for mid-level draft picks. Also looking to move guys like Jacobs, Hannahan, and Church, but those guys will obviously come at a premium.
 
140Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Sun, Jun 01, 2008, 21:20
LOL, reminds me of Species of past years. How about I pick up guys off FA wire and immediately try and pimp them for draft picks!!! ;)
 
141blue hen
      ID: 30311814
      Mon, Jun 02, 2008, 11:41
You do that, Ref. Regularly.

I got no fewer than four offers for Jay Bruce in my leagues this week. Mostly from teams who just got him. If a guy will help your team, does it matter where he came from?
 
142Tosh
      Leader
      ID: 057721710
      Mon, Jun 02, 2008, 20:23
I got a good snicker out of Wilkerson. He was on BH's roster for a whole 65 minutes before asking for a mid-level pick.

Signed - 05/31/08 10:31 pm ET
Offered - 05/31/08 11:36 pm ET
 
143Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Mon, Jun 02, 2008, 22:57
BH, name one player I've EVER picked up off FA and immediately offered him in a trade. Hey, Species got it to work a time or two and a perfect example is Bruce...but for the most part, there is a reason they are a FA. I'm not hatin, just think it's funny.
 
144blue hen
      ID: 0022514
      Tue, Jun 03, 2008, 00:24
Alright, I'll hold him awhile. Wilkerson will have value. There's a reason I picked him up from being a FA.
 
145StLCards
      Dude
      ID: 31010716
      Wed, Jun 04, 2008, 00:06
Been down the Wilkerson path once before already
 
146Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Wed, Jun 04, 2008, 00:33
Haven't we all?
 
147Great One
      ID: 56438112
      Wed, Jun 04, 2008, 09:41
Isn't Wilkerson hitting .227? I got Fred Lewis for sale for a later pick - and he can steal a base too! :)
 
148blue hen
      ID: 30311814
      Wed, Jun 04, 2008, 12:28
You're probably better off talking up Lewis' .362 on-base percentage, which is a category that counts in this league. Wilkerson's definitely not at that level for the season, although he appears to be hitting well lately.

Why would you want to ditch Lewis anyway? He's having a pretty good year. I'd imagine he'd be helpful to someone. Carlos Ruiz, on the other hand...
 
149Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Wed, Jun 04, 2008, 12:30
Anyone want Smoltz?
 
150Great One
      ID: 56438112
      Wed, Jun 04, 2008, 12:39
Yeah, Fred Lewis has been a nice find. A little pop, a little speed. With some of the OF that are starting for the contenders, some of them would be well served to throw me a mid-round pick for his services. Or make me an offer for Bay and then I could look into keeping Lewis myself.

Yeah this Ruiz character has been underwhelming, someone needs to take out his platoon... but my hitting hasn't really been the problem. I got a good numbers over there. Its the pitching thats been brutal outside of Dice-K.
I'd probably package Bay and Bucholz for a good young keeper level SP. I can't believe I wouldn't get an offer for that combination of production and potential.
 
151beastiemiked
      ID: 402141714
      Thu, Jun 05, 2008, 04:42
LOL, reminds me of Species of past years. How about I pick up guys off FA wire and immediately try and pimp them for draft picks!!! ;)

You bitched about rsf cockblocking your tinsley promotion and then you say shit about bh pimping some of his guys? I really don't see a problem with what rsf did or what you said in this post but you can't get mad at rsf and then make a post like this.
 
152Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Thu, Jun 05, 2008, 15:03
bmd, this is two very different things.

I said, hey I've got this guy who is a keeper who I can trade. RSF then came in and said he was horrible, etc. (before later coming on and said he didn't realize his stats were as high as they were).

BH, has been picking guys off FA wire and immediately wanting draft picks for them. And some he wants "premium" picks.

For instance, I drop Hannahan. Then he picks him up and wants to trade him to me for a premium pick. He's done the same with Wilky, Kent, etc. Now he might strike gold once in awhile and more power to him if he does. I just find it funny that it happens so often. Now if someone thinks they can use one of those guys, then cool. But I didn't pick up JT and say hey I have a guy I just picked off FA because no one wanted him and you cna have him for a midlevel or premium pick.

Maybe you don't see the difference and if you don't, then we're going ot have to agree to disagree.
 
153Great One
      ID: 56438112
      Thu, Jun 05, 2008, 15:46
Yeah, those two were different I'd agree. RSF was essentially "that guys sucks, why would anyone waste a pick on him" and this was more commentary on BH's strategy and timing.
 
154beastiemiked
      ID: 402141714
      Thu, Jun 05, 2008, 17:09
There's no difference. Tinsley sucks and so do the guys bh is pimping. rsf made a post about how bad he thought Tinsley was and explained reasons. You made a post about how bh's guys were just fa's.

Managers in all the G20 leagues make bad trades. It sucks but there's really nothing that can be done about it. I think calling out other managers "pimping" is fine since it might prevent some bad trades from going down. I'm sure there's tons of bashing done through AIM. I think this is a better medium since the "pimps" can defend why the player that "Mr C-block" say sucks is better than what Mr. C-block thinks.

 
155Tosh
      Leader
      ID: 057721710
      Thu, Jun 05, 2008, 18:05
Not to carry on this discussion or anything ...

I realized my math was wrong in post 142. BH offered Wilkerson up at 22:36 (10:36).

That means that Wilkerson was on BH's team for 5 minutes before being offered up, not 65. :-)

 
156Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Thu, Jun 05, 2008, 18:28
Ref is way off anyway. I would pick up guys off of the FA wire at the start of the hot streak, let them ferment a little and establish themselves as more than a fluke, before pawning them off for pick upgrades or prospect picks. Get your story straight! ;-)

My favorite was Gary Matthews Jr. as a total throw-in on a trade with Tosh (i.e. - he was the player Tosh was going to drop in our trade). He got hot all of a sudden in TEX and I got a prospect pick out of it :)
 
157Tosh
      Leader
      ID: 057721710
      Thu, Jun 05, 2008, 19:50
I continue to add Matthews on a couple teams every year just hoping he'll get hot again. It's been a lot of bitter disappointment.

I've been able to sign fill-in closers off the FA wire and trade them away fairly quickly ... but I don't think I've ever been able to pull it off with a hitter. There just aren't many good hitters left on the wire.
 
158Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Thu, Jun 05, 2008, 21:26
Ya see, Species. when you got Matthews he had no perceived balue, but suddenly he got hot. I got Willis and dropped him before he got hot and became a keeper. Tosh and my comments were based on him picking guys up and IMMEDIATELY offering them for midlevel and premium picks. It may work out they get hot and he can get something out of him. I got Hafner off the FA wire. Many other nuggets have and will continue to be found there.

I consider myself t be good friendw ith Species and BH and we give each other a lot of good-natured ribbing both on here and privately. It's all good. I also like bmd very much. Just because we disagree on what he perceives something to be the same thing doesn't offend me. Perception=reality. I really don't think my comments were off-base at all, but like I said, let's agree to disagree and move on. Btw, I also consider RSF a friend and don't think he did anything intentionally malicious.
 
159blue hen
      ID: 0022514
      Fri, Jun 06, 2008, 00:07
I agree with everything you said. I am a bad person and should be punished. Except one thing.

Ref, you're an idiot for dropping Hannahan. Because he's actually good. He's 2nd on my team in walks right now. If he can bat .260, he'll be a plus player. And you need a third baseman, right?

Actually, I'm content to let Great One bash my players. First he bashes Joe Mauer for not hitting any homers and he hits two in three days. And tonight, Wilkerson stole a base.

Hot naked chicks don't just fall out of the sky. And man does Jeff Kent suck.
 
160Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Fri, Jun 06, 2008, 00:37
Now that's the BH we all know and love! ;)
 
161Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Fri, Jun 06, 2008, 00:40
LOL! Kent just now hit a HR! That's two on the night.
 
162blue hen
      ID: 30311814
      Fri, Jun 06, 2008, 13:50
A middle infielder with eight home runs on the year. Man, he sucks.
 
164blue hen
      ID: 30311814
      Fri, Jun 06, 2008, 13:58
Reference for the joke in 159.
 
165Great One
      ID: 2241519
      Fri, Jun 06, 2008, 16:19
Without looking... I want to say Dogma and a naked Chris Rock falling.

Yeah, BH - I'm playing in H2H league where my opponent has Mauer, great timing to finally wake up.
 
166Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Fri, Jun 06, 2008, 20:42
If you couldn't find players on the FA wire who can get hot, there wouldn't be so many add/drops. Can always find a nugget or two.
 
167Perm Dude
      ID: 420241913
      Fri, Jun 06, 2008, 22:28
Stupid Ponson.
 
168Tosh
      Leader
      ID: 057721710
      Fri, Jun 06, 2008, 23:07
I'm looking to trade a starting pitcher. There are two tiers to choose from. I seek to add a young keeper-level hitter (non-OF).

Tier 1 - possible 2009 keepers
Jeff Francis (2-5, 5.53, 1.52, 7.1 k/9)
Andrew Miller (4-4, 5.37, 1.66, 7.1 k/9)
Cliff Lee (9-1, 2.45, 1.04, 7.6 k/9)
Joe Saunders (9-2, 2.63, 1.09, 4.3 k/9)

Tier 2 - obvious 2009 keepers
Erik Bedard (4-4, 4.47, 1.33, 7.9 k/9)
John Lackey (1-1, 1.80, 1.03, 6.0 k/9)
Roy Halladay (7-5, 2.94, 1.00, 7.0 k/9)
 
169beastiemiked
      ID: 402141714
      Fri, Jun 06, 2008, 23:14
Lol at the blockbuster Verlander for Ortiz trade before the season. Ortiz is hurt and Verlander just sucks.
 
170Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Sat, Jun 07, 2008, 00:13
Re 162

YOu'd think that at least some of these guys coudl at least crack your starting lineup lol!!!

I just saw Kent get ejected. Horrible called 3rd strike by the ump. There may have been slight contact, but if anything, the ump initiated it. I will say thta the unp gave him every possible chance to go out to his position and Kent flat out refused.
 
171blue hen
      ID: 0022514
      Sun, Jun 08, 2008, 23:40
Oh, he's always been a jerk. But man can he hit.
 
172Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Mon, Jun 09, 2008, 15:38
Baseball Plaque and Trophy
 
173Great One
      ID: 2241519
      Mon, Jun 09, 2008, 20:45
I actually had this que'd up 2 hours and 31 minutes ago... but had to reset when I forgot to post.

Barfield is available for a mid-round draft pick. Who wants a sweet swinging young 2B with a ton of upside!?!
 
174Peter N.
      ID: 38558910
      Wed, Jun 11, 2008, 23:49
I had the bright idea to start Hawpe over Murphy this morning. That move costs me 2 HRs and 5 RBIs. Now I read Soriano breaks his hand. Unreal night.
 
175StLCards
      Dude
      ID: 31010716
      Thu, Jun 12, 2008, 01:30
Anybody want Bonderman for next year?
 
176Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Fri, Jun 13, 2008, 00:49
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