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Subject: Lucky 13 Fantasy Baseball 2009


  Posted by: ChicagoTRS - [4110481415] Thu, Jan 29, 2009, 09:48

Time to start thinking about fantasy baseball.

Year number 7! of the Lucky 13 league.

Last years managers:
great one
chicagotrs
barilko6
wiggs
toral
wolfer
art for the hall
wazaaap_guy
jackhammers
Pancho Villa
sR
robJ
slizz

I will send out an email to everyone in the next couple days to gage interest. Check in here if you are definitely in or out for this season. I also need to look over last years rosters and figure out which players are keeper eligible.

I figure we will get started with the draft either 2/16 or 2/23. Hopefully we will be able to use Kafenatid again this year as it really makes managing the draft smoother.
 
1Slizz
      ID: 4710371415
      Thu, Jan 29, 2009, 09:59
Hopefully the Salami Farts can do a little better after a year of seasoning!

Man do i wish we waited 1 more week for my Rays to call up Price...I would be able to have him as my farmer guy for this season and next!!!

Anyhow, I have a couple guys that could be keepers on another squad as my guy is Lastings Milledge unless you blow me away with an offer for him.

Potential guys (off the top of my head):

Justin "Mr. Irrelevant" Duchscherer - will benefit from pitching in Oakland and can produce a top 20 pitching statline.

George Sherrill - Racks up them Saves and for the first half of the season singlehandedly kept me in the hunt in that category.

Yunel Escobar - Solid all around, plus has 2B/SS/3B Eligibility.

Jonathan Broxton - His track record speaks for itself... and

Lastings Milledge - I think he is Alex Rios with some power...

 
2wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Thu, Jan 29, 2009, 10:01
in
 
3barilko6
      ID: 58133021
      Thu, Jan 29, 2009, 10:18
I am in as well.

Slizz, I think we have a rule where the late round keepers can only be traded for late round keepers, no picks allowed. Someone might want to confirm that.

I will be keeping Geo Soto!
 
4Toral
      ID: 269502817
      Thu, Jan 29, 2009, 10:53
In.
 
5ChicagoTRS
      ID: 4110481415
      Thu, Jan 29, 2009, 11:36
The rule with keepers is they needed to be on your roster at the end of last season. No offseason trades.
 
6ChicagoTRS
      ID: 4110481415
      Thu, Jan 29, 2009, 11:46
If you happen to know who your keeper is already go ahead and list it as it will save me a bit of work.

Mine is going to be Chris Carpenter...
 
7wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Thu, Jan 29, 2009, 12:08
Keeping Jon Lester
 
8Slizz
      ID: 4710371415
      Thu, Jan 29, 2009, 12:53
Thanks b6. Thats just me not reading the rules and assuming it was like Football 101 :)

Farmer Hitter: Evan Longoria

Farmer Pitcher: David Price

Tenative Late-Round Keeper: Lastings Milledge

 
9Great One
      ID: 151126410
      Thu, Jan 29, 2009, 13:03
Can't beat Slizz's trio, thats for damn sure.

My late round keeper option is Joey Votto I guess.

Don't have a farmer hitter, and have Johnny Cueto as farmer pitcher.

 
10barilko6
      ID: 48563014
      Fri, Jan 30, 2009, 11:13
I have no farmer hitter, and have Adenhart as my farmer pitcher...however I might choose not to keep that bum, I mean guy.
 
11wolfer
      ID: 4211552911
      Sat, Jan 31, 2009, 09:23
Count me in. What is the rule on late round keepers again?
 
12ChicagoTRS
      ID: 570422522
      Sat, Jan 31, 2009, 10:37
• The player must have been drafted by a team in the previous draft between rounds 14-27 and never been released as a free agent. The player must be on your roster by the trading deadline and on the end season roster. Keeper eligible players retain their keeper status when traded. Keepers can only be kept for one year.
 
13wazaaap_guy
      ID: 530581818
      Sat, Jan 31, 2009, 11:57
I'm in.
 
14wazaaap_guy
      ID: 530581818
      Sat, Jan 31, 2009, 12:10
Farmer hitter: Matt Wieters
Keeper: Conor Jackson

Clayton Kershaw was my farmer pitcher, but I called him up and held him. Does he count as Farmer or keeper this year?
 
15ChicagoTRS
      ID: 570422522
      Sat, Jan 31, 2009, 14:00
> Clayton Kershaw was my farmer pitcher, but I called him up and held him. Does he count as Farmer or keeper this year?

Farmer Pitcher
 
16wolfer
      ID: 4211552911
      Sat, Jan 31, 2009, 15:02
Good. Now I believe I can declare Cameron as a keeper if I want.
 
17s R
      ID: 251157133
      Sat, Jan 31, 2009, 15:10
I am in.
 
18art's in thehall
      ID: 250181412
      Wed, Feb 04, 2009, 10:40
count me in.
 
19Pancho Villa
      ID: 51546319
      Fri, Feb 06, 2009, 07:38
I'm in.
 
20ChicagoTRS
      ID: 4110481415
      Mon, Feb 09, 2009, 16:12
Please look over the rules...anyone propose any changes to the current set of rules?

Lucky 13 Fantasy Baseball Rules

Basics:
• Season – Full Season
• Slow draft via message board or Kafenatid
• 13 teams
• 26 players on a team +2 farmers
• Positions – C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, (3)OF, IF, Util
• 15 games to qualify at a position (Yahoo! rule)
• 162 games maximum per position
• Pitching – (8) Pitching slots – any combination of starters/relievers.
• Bench – 8 players (any combination hitters/pitchers)
• DL – 2 players maximum
• 5x5 Categories – R, RBI, HR, SB, OBP – W, Saves, SO, ERA, WHIP
• Maximum 1300 innings
• Minimum 900 innings – if the minimum innings are not met the team will receive only 1 point in ERA/WHIP categories. This does not effect other managers points.
• Roster Changes Daily
• Unlimited Moves
• Waiver Time – 2 days
• Waiver initial order is reverse of draft order
• Retroactive Stats – No
• Unlimited Trades
• Trade Deadline – TBD on what Yahoo allows, will be the second to last date Yahoo allows.
• Trade Reject time – 2 days
• The trade reject time can be waived if both trading managers request the waiver and the commissioner judges the trade as no chance of veto.
• Any manager can call for a veto vote via an email to the commissioner.
• The commissioner will not release the name of the manager requesting the vote.
• Commissioner will then email each manager individually for a veto vote
• Veto votes are YES or NO there are no conditions involved. It is not the role of the voters to fix the trade.
• Managers not casting a veto vote will not count either way towards the veto percentage.
• Veto = 50% or greater of owners casting votes not involved in trade
• If a trade occurs where there are an uneven amount of players swapped (example: 3 for 2) the manager must leave a roster spot open for the trade to occur. Yahoo! cancels trades if a roster spot gets filled. In the case of a trade getting canceled because of this situation it will be required that the trade is made again and the commissioner will commit the trade immediately and waive the wait time.
• If a manager deliberately attempts to sabotage the league the commissioner has the power to banish that manager from the league and freeze the teams roster. (dumping star players to free agency, ridiculous trades)

 
21ChicagoTRS
      ID: 4110481415
      Mon, Feb 09, 2009, 16:12
Draft:
• 27 Round Draft
• 26 man rosters plus 2 farmer reserves
• Farmer explanation:
• Farmer = 0 major league experience
• Drafted in any round of the draft
• Each team is allowed one farmer pitcher and one farmer hitter
• Can be retained for the season they are brought to the majors and the following season if they are never released
• If the player is not brought to the majors during the season the following year the manager can choose to retain the player as a farmer or redraft another player.
• The 28th position will be a keeper. Keeper picks will be due before the start of the draft.
• The player must have been drafted by a team in the previous draft between rounds 14-27 and never been released as a free agent. The player must be on your roster by the trading deadline and on the end season roster. Keeper eligible players retain their keeper status when traded. Keepers can only be kept for one year.
• Draft initial order will be random
• Inverse Rounds Draft Order (snake draft)
• Draft Trading Allowed – http://www.kffl.com/draftanalyzer/index.php
• Trades involving the highest draft pick in the first 5 rounds, the trade must be within 1000 points using the draft calculator
• Trades involving the highest draft pick in rounds 6-15, the trade must be within 500 points using the draft calculator
• Trades involving the highest draft pick in rounds 16-27, the trade must be within 100 points using the draft calculator
• 6 hour time limit with the clock off between 2am eastern and 8am eastern
• 12 hour time limit on the weekends no clock off time
• Starting in the 20th round there will be a 4 hour time limit
• If a manager has back to back picks they are allowed one time period and then both picks are skipped.
• Once a manager is skipped because of running out of time subsequent picks for that manager do not get a new time period until the manager makes their missed picks.
• Trades do not reset the time clock. The time is associated with the pick and not the manager.
• If a pick is skipped because of time running out the pick can be made as soon as the manager shows up. Players picked after the missed pick are off of the board.
• If a manager drafts a player already picked the draft will continue with the next manager and the manager who made the duplicate can replace the duplicate pick at any time. Since the draft immediately continues players selected after the duplicate pick are off the board as far as the duplicate manager is concerned.
• In the case where a manager picks out of order or someone other than the manager picking make an incorrect pick (wrong queue, duplicate pick) and others make picks after the bad pick the draft will revert back to the place where the out of order pick was made.
• Once a pick is posted to the message board the pick is final…removing the post and repicking is not allowed.
• A manager can leave picks with another manager if they will not be available to pick. Queues are encouraged.
 
22ChicagoTRS
      ID: 4110481415
      Mon, Feb 09, 2009, 16:12
Farmer Specific Info

1) Each team is allowed one farmer hitter and pitcher.
2) They are drafted at any point during the normal draft.
3) To qualify for farmer the player must have 0 major league experience
4) I will put a list of teams farmers in the commissioners notes and will try and watch for farmers as they make the bigs...if you see one of your players called up...please post a message with your current waiver position and make a waiver claim on the player...I will waive the waiver time and fix the waiver order.
5) When a player is added to the Yahoo! DB once someone posts a public message that the player has been added you have 5 days to either claim or lose your rights to that farmer.
6) In the season the player is brought to the majors you can retain the rights to that player for the following season.
7) If the player does not see the majors...next draft you can choose to retain the player in your farmer spot or release him.
8) You can retain the farmer for as many years as you like while in the minors and still have 2 years rights when he joins the majors.
9) You can only keep one farmer hitter and pitcher a retained farmer still fills a slot.
10) Once Farmers make the majors if they are traded between fantasy teams they lose retention status.
 
23ChicagoTRS
      ID: 570422522
      Tue, Feb 10, 2009, 21:55
Roll call...we are only missing 3 managers. It does not look like I have everyones email. I may have the emails on one of my work computers.

MIA:
great one
Jackhammers
robJ

Hopefully I will send out an email tomorrow.

Tentative plan to start draft 2/23
 
24ChicagoTRS
      ID: 4110481415
      Wed, Feb 11, 2009, 11:48
Sent out the league email...

added a couple lines to the farmer section of the rules:
11) Teams have until April 5th to add farmers to their roster if they are in the Yahoo DB.
12) If you choose to retain a farmer that is your farmer for the upcoming season, you cannot replace your farmer with a drafted farmer.
13) If you draft multiple farmers you have until Apr 5th to declare your farmer.
 
25Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Wed, Feb 11, 2009, 12:49
Late Keeper: Zack Greinke

No farmer keepers
 
26wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Wed, Feb 11, 2009, 13:10
I think i am able to keep both my farmers-

Colby Rasmus and Jarrod Parker-

Please let me know if this is correct

thanks
 
27ChicagoTRS
      ID: 4110481415
      Wed, Feb 11, 2009, 14:05
wiggs...you are correct, you can keep both.
 
28barilko6
      ID: 48563014
      Wed, Feb 11, 2009, 14:34
Trs, GO posted in post 9.
 
29Rob J
      ID: 241441113
      Wed, Feb 11, 2009, 14:44
Definitely want to be in, I love the competitiveness of the league. I
know I've historically been a mediocre manager but I hope to
improve a little bit this year and maybe learn a thing or two from
the top dogs.


 
30ChicagoTRS
      ID: 4110481415
      Wed, Feb 11, 2009, 14:58
cool...I heard from GO via email also...

Last person is jackhammers...
 
31wolfer
      ID: 599522614
      Wed, Feb 11, 2009, 22:18
Late round keeper - Mike Cameron
Farmer pitcher - Max Scherzer
 
32Jack Hammers
      ID: 4810271313
      Fri, Feb 13, 2009, 01:55
Is it baseball season already?

What the heck, I'll put my crappy team back in this year.
 
33barilko6
      ID: 4415138
      Fri, Feb 13, 2009, 09:06
JH...the beauty of it all, is that this is primarily a non-keeper, so you can start all over with an entirely NEW crappy team!
 
34Great One
      ID: 31112109
      Fri, Feb 13, 2009, 09:13
TRS - per earlier discussion (and despite some wavering), I intend to play in 2009
 
35ChicagoTRS
      ID: 4110481415
      Fri, Feb 13, 2009, 10:16
great...great one...just emailed you before I saw your message begging you to stay...lol
 
36art's in thehall
      ID: 250181412
      Fri, Feb 13, 2009, 11:49
My late keeper is Johnny Damon.

No farm Keepers.
 
37Pancho Villa
      ID: 51546319
      Fri, Feb 13, 2009, 12:40
It appears I have no players that qualify for late keeper.
Where can we find our farmer picks? It's not in the Yahoo database.
 
38ChicagoTRS
      ID: 4110481415
      Fri, Feb 13, 2009, 14:27
PV...your farmer picks last year were:
Blake Beavan (P) TX
Matt Antonelli (2B) SD

Beavan still has 0 major league experience so you can choose to keep him as a farmer pitcher.

Antonelli got called up last year but you still have the option to retain him this year in your hitter farmer slot.

As for your late round keeper. It looks like the only player you can choose to retain is Aaron Rowand.
 
39Rob J
      ID: 581261317
      Fri, Feb 13, 2009, 18:29
Hi guys, I'm wondering if anyone has my keepable keeper/farmer
info.
 
40ChicagoTRS
      ID: 466581618
      Fri, Feb 13, 2009, 20:41
Rob J...I have it and will figure it out later tonight.
 
41ChicagoTRS
      ID: 570422522
      Sat, Feb 14, 2009, 00:14
RJ...

Farmer pitcher spot open (Matsuzaka not retained, 3rd season/traded)

Farmer Hitter Jay Bruce (CIN - OF) (2nd year)

Late Keeper Eligble:
14.2 Jermaine Dye (CWS - OF)
15.12 Brandon Lyon (Det - P)
21.12 Hideki Okajima (Bos - P)


 
42Rob J
      ID: 581261317
      Sat, Feb 14, 2009, 18:46
I guess I'll keep Dye, Bruce (farmer) and have an open pitcher
farmer slot then.
 
43Pancho Villa
      ID: 51546319
      Sun, Feb 15, 2009, 13:33
Late Keeper - Aaron Rowand
Farm keeper - B Beavan - pitcher
No farm hitter keeper
 
44ChicagoTRS
      ID: 3218189
      Wed, Feb 18, 2009, 14:18
Here is what I have for retained players:

Great One
Keeper: Joey Votto
Farmer Pitcher: Johnny Cueto

Barilko
Keeper: Geovani Soto
Farmer Keeper: none

Rob J
Keeper: Jermaine Dye
Farmer hitter: Jay Bruce

TRS
Keeper: Chris Carpenter
Farmer Keeper: none

Art
Keeper: Johnny Damon
Farmer Keeper: none

Wiggs
Keeper: Jon Lester
Farmer hitter: Colby Rasmus
Farmer pitcher: Jarrod Parker

Slizz
Keeper: Lastings Milledge
Farmer Pitcher: David Price
Farmer Hitter: Evan Longoria

Toral
Keeper: Zack Greinke
Farmer Keeper: none

wolfer
Late Round keeper - Mike Cameron
Farmer Pitcher: Max Scherzer

WG
Keeper: Conor Jackson
Pitcher Farmer: Clayton Kershaw
Farmer Hitter: Matt Wieters

Pancho Villa
Late round keeper - Aaron Rowand
Farmer Pitcher: Blake Beavan

No info for Jackhammers or sR

 
45ChicagoTRS
      ID: 3218189
      Wed, Feb 18, 2009, 14:29
Jack Hammers...

Your farmers last year were:
Justin Upton (R), John Danks (R)
Both were on their 2nd year so you will not retain farmers.

Late round keeper eligibles...pick one:
Adam Jones
Josh Willingham
Melvin Mora
Jon Rauch
Joaquνn Benoit
Jason Bartlett
Josι Guillιn
Daniel Cabrera
 
46ChicagoTRS
      ID: 3218189
      Wed, Feb 18, 2009, 14:33
sR...

Your farmers last year were:
Hunter Pence (R), Clay Buccholz (R)
Both were on their 2nd year so you will not retain farmers.

Late round keeper eligibles...pick one:
Joe Blanton
Ubaldo Jimιnez
Felipe Lσpez
Kerry Wood
Milton Bradley
Kevin Slowey
Casey Kotchman
Mark Reynolds
Matt Diaz
 
47 ChicagoTRS
      ID: 3218189
      Wed, Feb 18, 2009, 14:55
I am still debating my keeper...may keep Raul Ibanez instead...

Looks like Jack Hammers is the only person who has not joined the Yahoo league...please join.

I need some help setting up Kafenatid...should be 6 hour time limit during the week with timer off between 2am-8am eastern. 12 hour time limit no clock off on weekends. I will pay the $10 draft fee.

I think we are pretty much set to go on Monday 2/23 except for determining the draft order.

Someone please email me the numbers 1-13 in random order.
 
48ChicagoTRS
      ID: 3218189
      Wed, Feb 18, 2009, 15:13
ChicagoTRS
Keeper: Raul Ibanez
no farmers
 
49ChicagoTRS
      ID: 3218189
      Thu, Feb 19, 2009, 13:50
GO...thanks for the random numbers...

Draft order:
7 wolfer
4 great one
12 wazaaap_guy
2 chicagotrs
10 sR
6 jackhammers
1 barilko6
13 Pancho Villa
8 robJ
5 wiggs
11 toral
3 slizz
9 art for the hall

or

1 barilko6
2 chicagotrs
3 slizz
4 great one
5 wiggs
6 jackhammers
7 wolfer
8 robJ
9 art for the hall
10 sR
11 toral
12 wazaaap_guy
13 Pancho Villa
 
50barilko6
      ID: 331161121
      Thu, Feb 19, 2009, 13:55
Nice!

Although the draft is 6 deep to start...I am happy to be 1 and at the turn
 
51ChicagoTRS
      ID: 3218189
      Thu, Feb 19, 2009, 14:07
bleh...I did not really want #2...but I guess it worked for me last year...
 
52 barilko6
      ID: 331161121
      Thu, Feb 19, 2009, 14:30
If anyone in the top 6 wants to move up, shoot me an email
 
53s R
      ID: 251157133
      Thu, Feb 19, 2009, 14:35
ZigZag Wanderers
Keeper: Milton Bradley
 
54Great One
      ID: 31112109
      Thu, Feb 19, 2009, 14:51
I'd move up... you know where to find me.
 
55Rob J
      ID: 581261317
      Thu, Feb 19, 2009, 15:27
Wow landed right in the middle, is the draft on kafenatid.net yet?
 
56ChicagoTRS
      ID: 3218189
      Thu, Feb 19, 2009, 15:47
It is not on kafenatid...did not know how to set it up with the time periods...

"I need some help setting up Kafenatid...should be 6 hour time limit during the week with timer off between 2am-8am eastern. 12 hour time limit no clock off on weekends (or no time limit on weekends...if 12 is not possible). I will pay the $10 draft fee."
 
57 barilko6
      ID: 3118208
      Fri, Feb 20, 2009, 10:57
TRs...

If you need help, shoot me an email. I think I set it up last year, and its pretty easy to talk you through it.

I did make one mistake with the draft pause, but otherwise I can give you a hand.

 
58barilko6
      ID: 3118208
      Fri, Feb 20, 2009, 11:31
First Trade of the year:

Barilko Gives picks 1, 27, 79, 105

Great One Gives picks: 4, 23, 49, 153
 
59barilko6
      ID: 531412010
      Fri, Feb 20, 2009, 11:41
And a reminder for some of the new guys: Round 14 picks hold extra value because of the keeper rule.
 
60Great One
      ID: 31112109
      Fri, Feb 20, 2009, 11:59
Confirmed.
 
61ChicagoTRS
      ID: 3218189
      Fri, Feb 20, 2009, 16:08
I will set up Kafenatid this weekend...not a problem...I just did not see an option to turn it off for the weekend.
 
62art's in the hall
      ID: 22153200
      Sun, Feb 22, 2009, 13:50
wolfer,

I might be interested in moving up two spots. Are you interested at all?
 
63 wolfer
      ID: 4211552911
      Sun, Feb 22, 2009, 17:10
Depends on the offer.
 
64Rob J
      ID: 581261317
      Sun, Feb 22, 2009, 17:52
I just registered
 
65art's in the hall
      ID: 22153200
      Sun, Feb 22, 2009, 19:29
registered. Does anyone have a pick matrix made yet?
Wolfer, I will just see who is available at 7 and then make an offer.
 
66Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Sun, Feb 22, 2009, 19:37
Do I need a Kafenatid password for our draft?
 
67ChicagoTRS
      ID: 570422522
      Sun, Feb 22, 2009, 22:07
should be in the email...
(same as yahoo pw)
 
68Jack Hammers
      ID: 4810271313
      Mon, Feb 23, 2009, 09:06
Late round keeper: Adam Jones
 
69ChicagoTRS
      ID: 3218189
      Mon, Feb 23, 2009, 09:26
We need two people to join the draft in kafenatid before I can start it...
 
70art's in thehall
      ID: 250181412
      Mon, Feb 23, 2009, 14:54
do we have any time table for the draft to start? It seems we are just going to have to wait for the other two managers to join. Unless we want to start the draft on the board. I guess that depends on which manangers we are waiting on.
 
71ChicagoTRS
      ID: 3218189
      Mon, Feb 23, 2009, 16:01
We are still waiting for 2 to join kafenatid...narrowed it down to wazaaap_guy or slizz or sR. "eserel" has joined but I am not sure which manager that is?

I emailed all three and asked them to join.
 
72Slizz
      ID: 4710371415
      Mon, Feb 23, 2009, 16:05
I'm registered.
 
73wazaaap_guy
      ID: 11053617
      Mon, Feb 23, 2009, 16:06
My apologies.
 
74ChicagoTRS
      ID: 3218189
      Mon, Feb 23, 2009, 16:07
keeper & farmer list:

Great One
Keeper: Joey Votto
Farmer Pitcher: Johnny Cueto

Barilko
Keeper: Geovani Soto
Farmer Keeper: none

Rob J
Keeper: Jermaine Dye
Pitcher Farmer: none
Hitter Farmer: Jay Bruce

TRS
Keeper: Raul Ibanez
Farmers: none

Art
Keeper: Johnny Damon
Farmers: none

Wiggs
Keeper: Jon Lester
Farmer hitter: Colby Rasmus
Farmer pitcher: Jarrod Parker

Slizz
Keeper: Lastings Milledge
Farmer Pitcher: David Price
Farmer Hitter: Evan Longoria

Toral
Keeper: Zack Greinke
Farmers: none

Jack Hammers
Keeper: Adam Jones
Farmers: none

wolfer
Keeper - Mike Cameron
Farmer Pitcher: Max Scherzer

sR - ZigZag
Keeper: Milton Bradley
Farmers: none

WG
Keeper: Conor Jackson
Pitcher Farmer: Clayton Kershaw
Farmer Hitter: Matt Wieters

Pancho Villa
Keeper: Aaron Rowand
Farmer Pitcher: Blake Beavan
 
75ChicagoTRS
      ID: 3218189
      Mon, Feb 23, 2009, 16:32
Ok...the draft is set in Kafenatid...everyone joined...draft order set.

I figure I will start the draft first thing tomorrow morning.
 
76ChicagoTRS
      ID: 3218189
      Mon, Feb 23, 2009, 16:34
I cannot figure out how to enter keepers without f-ing up the start of the draft?

It wants me to enter keepers as the first round picks but that then screws up the snake draft and the trade that already occurred. Anyone have any ideas? or do we have to wait until the draft is over and put the keepers in at the end?
 
77ChicagoTRS
      ID: 3218189
      Mon, Feb 23, 2009, 16:37
Actually I am going to start the draft this afternoon after someone chimes in on the keeper issue.

I will start the draft but will not turn on the timer until tomorrow.
 
78Great One
      ID: 31112109
      Mon, Feb 23, 2009, 16:38
I think last year those were our last "draft picks" i.e. Votto would be my Round 17 or whatever it is.

And then I made a condensed list of these names and put them at the top of the draft thread so you would Ctrl+F and see they were already taken.

 
79ChicagoTRS
      ID: 3218189
      Mon, Feb 23, 2009, 16:41
Ok...that is kind of what I figured on the keepers. I am going to start the draft now and leave the timer off for the time being.

Maybe we will leave the timer off for this entire first week? So no one gets skipped in the first couple rounds. Any objections?
 
80Great One
      ID: 31112109
      Mon, Feb 23, 2009, 16:45
#1 is ready to go! :)
 
81ChicagoTRS
      ID: 3218189
      Mon, Feb 23, 2009, 16:47
gosh this is not starting well...already need to adjust with that first pick...
 
82barilko6
      ID: 291432316
      Mon, Feb 23, 2009, 17:55
Yeah, last year we entered all the late round keepers at the very end of the draft.

I entered 3 guys into a queue and set up some designated pickers for my first pick.
 
83slizzblackberry
      ID: 231292320
      Mon, Feb 23, 2009, 21:29
I can't pick on kafenatid till tomorrow am. Give me jose reyes...
 
84ChicagoTRS
      ID: 570422522
      Mon, Feb 23, 2009, 23:40
slizz...made the pick...

also make barilko q pick...
 
85wolfer
      ID: 25521311
      Tue, Feb 24, 2009, 08:58
Re 65,

Still interested?
 
86art's in the hall
      ID: 22153200
      Tue, Feb 24, 2009, 09:06
I'll pass I was hoping sizemore would fall one more spot.
 
87Pancho Villa
      ID: 51546319
      Wed, Feb 25, 2009, 09:09
I'm going to register a mild complaint, which may sound like sour grapes, since I was saddled with pick #13.

Why start a draft on "On the Clock" and then not use it? I find it hard to get any type of flow when I check in several times a day and attempt to figure out if I'll be drafting today, tomorrow or sometime this weekend. Obviously the first couple of picks are paramount to success, so filling a que isn't as realistic as it will be down the line.

In the future, I suggest we officially start the draft with a clock. It would eliminate this feeling of limbo that we've started the draft, but haven't really started.
 
88barilko6
      ID: 331161121
      Wed, Feb 25, 2009, 09:25
Pancho, I share your concerns, but it looks like from TRS's post in 79 that we are going clockless for only one week and then starting officially on Monday, just to make sure nobody was on vacation and not checking in this week. Its hard to just start and say go without warning.

I would assume Monday we will turn on the clock and start for real, and that this time now is just extra.
 
89wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Wed, Feb 25, 2009, 09:28
what size clock are we going to use? if it is 8 hours we really havent wasted too much time for drafting without a clock. I think once we get through the 1st round things will really picks up and you could expect atleast a pick a day
 
90Great One
      ID: 31112109
      Wed, Feb 25, 2009, 09:33
Yeah, you want to make sure everybody is checking the website, aware the draft has started etc. At least through the first round.
Then flip the switch so to speak.
 
92ChicagoTRS
      ID: 3218189
      Wed, Feb 25, 2009, 09:51
Well...I was definitely hoping it would go a little quicker than it has started. Everyone should know it has started...I sent an email when it started and Kafenatid automatically sends emails when people are on the clock. The proposed date from the beginning was 2/23 and no one objected.

The clock will be set to 6 hours on Monday 3/2 (off from 2am - 8am eastern).

It was sort of a last minute decision to leave it off at the start of the draft. I really did not want people skipped in the first few rounds and I was not able to start the draft exactly on time because not everyone had registered. But...I agree at this point it is sort of ridiculous to have to wait a day between picks. I will email sR.

Sorry...this is almost always an issue with these type drafts...I hate it but it seems this is the way it works.
 
93wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Wed, Feb 25, 2009, 09:53
Not your fault Tony- like you said this always happens- This is one draft that I always enjoy doing and I am sure it will continue after the 1st round.
 
94wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Wed, Feb 25, 2009, 09:54
Let me add to that- It is not really anyones fault- there is no clock right now- its when there is a clock and someone uses 5 hours and 50 minutes for every pick that it becomes a problem- I dont see that happening here.
 
95ChicagoTRS
      ID: 3218189
      Wed, Feb 25, 2009, 10:02
Also...whenever possible please try to utilize queues...if your pick is in the next one or two...you should pretty much know your top couple players.

If you are going to be away for an extended time please please please utilize a queue or at least post here that you are away for x hours.

It just kills a draft when you have extended wait times...as then it seems all picks start extending.

Another key is if you are on the wrap end of the draft please think about a queue.
 
96Pancho Villa
      ID: 51546319
      Wed, Feb 25, 2009, 10:28
Another key is if you are on the wrap end of the draft please think about a queue.

Like I said, being #13 may make it sound like sour grapes, but I don't feel I can leave a que for my first two picks. The three players picked ahead of me(at this point) will dictate my strategy, so I want to make sure I don't end up with two power hitting outfielders when I might want an power hitting outfielder and a base stealing , high OBP, run scoring infielder, or a top starting pitcher.

Make sense?
 
97ChicagoTRS
      ID: 3218189
      Wed, Feb 25, 2009, 10:41
PV...no problem...I more concerned with the drafters at 12-2 and 11-3...when you make the 12th pick you should have a good idea the position/players you want with your next pick. I totally understand it is not realistic to queue two picks especially early in the draft.
 
98barilko6
      ID: 40143259
      Wed, Feb 25, 2009, 10:43
Yeah...I agree PV. I find it much harder to leave a queue when you have to make 2 picks at the same time. You want a certain position, but not 2 guys at that same position.
 
99wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Wed, Feb 25, 2009, 13:58
I also think it is more reasonable to leave a queue for picks 13 and 14 then picks 1 and 2.
 
100art's in thehall
      ID: 250181412
      Wed, Feb 25, 2009, 15:27
I think we start this way every year don't we? I don't know why I expect it to be different. I am sure things will pick up and if i remember correctly we will have a quick spurts when 5 picks will get done in less than a hour. I just excited, I figured out how to do the draft from my phone.
 
101Great One
      ID: 31112109
      Wed, Feb 25, 2009, 15:30
Good call, I gotta bookmark kafenatid as well on my G1...
 
102ChicagoTRS
      ID: 3218189
      Wed, Feb 25, 2009, 15:55
I am not sure how long we should wait for sR? If I remember correctly he is in Europe so many time zones off...but if he does not make a pick by tomorrow morning I will likely make a pick for him so we can continue the draft. I think waiting 36 hours is plenty fair.
 
103ChicagoTRS
      ID: 3218189
      Thu, Feb 26, 2009, 11:23
ok...we are moving again...

projected finish: 05/23/09 05:12:39 am

We really need to do a bit better than that ;-)

The 6 hour clock will go active Monday morning...
 
104Great One
      ID: 31112109
      Thu, Feb 26, 2009, 13:00
I'd imagine PV is ready to punch a wall haha... at least he can make a 3 man list at this point and knows he'll get two.
 
105wazaaap_guy
      ID: 11053617
      Thu, Feb 26, 2009, 15:04
I picked and should be around most of the day, if not I'll leave picks.
 
106ChicagoTRS
      ID: 3218189
      Thu, Feb 26, 2009, 17:39
doh...sR left a queue but looks like his players got picked...hopefully he will be around...back on the clock.
 
107 art's in the hall
      ID: 511332523
      Thu, Feb 26, 2009, 18:45
Is anyone interested in moving up? send me an offer. I will out of commission for a couple of hours with cubscouts tonight.
 
108barilko6
      ID: 40143259
      Fri, Feb 27, 2009, 11:14
Ok...the first time was somewhat explainable...now we are stuck again at the same spot a second time?
 
109art's in the hall
      ID: 40133278
      Fri, Feb 27, 2009, 11:36
Is anyone interested in moving up?

I agree with Barilko. Leaving a one person que with 7 picks, isn't reasonalbe, unless you reaching at this point.
 
110ChicagoTRS
      ID: 3218189
      Fri, Feb 27, 2009, 12:02
I think all I can do at this point is say Monday we will have a timer...so the most we will able to get stuck is 6 hours...

Getting through a round and a half in 5 days is awful and really takes the fun out of drafting...hopefully we can start moving on Monday...
 
111Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Fri, Feb 27, 2009, 12:19
Sorry I picked so soon. I should have waited a coupla days and watched to make sure my pick didn't get injured.
 
112art's in the hall
      ID: 40133278
      Fri, Feb 27, 2009, 12:23
it is just more fun to complain than to draft anyway. It is much easier.
 
113Great One
      ID: 31112109
      Fri, Feb 27, 2009, 13:01
I was telling Slizz about the story of how I made a draft pick a week ago. It was awesome! :)
 
114Pancho Villa
      ID: 51546319
      Fri, Feb 27, 2009, 14:26
The upside is that I probably have another week of research before my next picks.
 
115barilko6
      ID: 331161121
      Fri, Feb 27, 2009, 15:06
Is sR even around? I mean he didn't even chime in here on the forums after the last stalled pick.


Looking over last year's draft, he timed out in the 3rd and 4th rounds there as well.

 
116barilko6
      ID: 331161121
      Fri, Feb 27, 2009, 15:10
Also, just reading over some notes from last year. We had decided it was necessary to revisit the farmer rule this year after the points and problems that occured during last year's draft.

Is it too late to talk about that, seeing as how we are only in the early second round?

 
117Great One
      ID: 31112109
      Fri, Feb 27, 2009, 16:29
Plenty of time! :0 What were the problems we were having? Players being the system I think? I believe there is a tweak for that in Yahoo now, where only guys actually in the majors are in the player pool.

Perhaps TRS can investigate that.

 
118Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Fri, Feb 27, 2009, 16:29
I'd be happy to take over sR's team under an assumed name.
 
119Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Fri, Feb 27, 2009, 16:32
Oh wait! I forgot. One is supposed to say, "I have a friend who would be willing to take over this team."
 
120ChicagoTRS
      ID: 3218189
      Fri, Feb 27, 2009, 17:32
As for the farmer rules from last season...

I did add 3 new rules regarding farmers to try to account for some of the issues from last season...so I think the issues have been addressed:

11) Teams have until April 5th to add farmers to their roster if they are in the Yahoo DB.
12) If you choose to retain a farmer that is your farmer for the upcoming season, you cannot replace your farmer with a drafted farmer.
13) If you draft multiple farmers you have until Apr 5th to declare your farmer.

...basically if you retain a farmer you cannot draft and replace the retained farmer.

...I am allowing teams to draft multiple farmers but they are only able to declare one as their farmer and if the player that is not declared a farmer is not in the Yahoo DB by Apr 5th the team has no rights to the player.

...Someone could draft multiple farmers to block other teams...I am allowing it because I think it is a poor strategy and waste of draft picks and hurts the drafting team more than the rest of the league.

If there is anything else that has not been addressed please post and we have time to fix things now.
 
121ChicagoTRS
      ID: 3218189
      Fri, Feb 27, 2009, 17:42
If sR does not show by monday...I will select the top player available according to Yahoo O-rank and we will find an unaffiliated gurupie to draft for him until he shows.

I am not sure what else to do? I emailed him a few times each absence and he showed and drafted once but he did not respond to my emails saying he would be unavailable or anything and he has not posted anything here.

 
122art's in the hall
      ID: 40133278
      Fri, Feb 27, 2009, 18:01
what time on Monday? So I know what time to really check back in.

Can we also make a rule if someone times out twice they also get a shorter clock for the future?
 
123ChicagoTRS
      ID: 591302518
      Fri, Feb 27, 2009, 20:15
8am central monday morning...

I like the idea but it I do not think I can implement it in Kafenatid...
 
124wiggs
      ID: 0139914
      Sat, Feb 28, 2009, 14:46
I try not to say anything and to give everyone the benefit of the doubt, but this is getting more then a little ridiculous.
 
125Great One
      ID: 291372517
      Sat, Feb 28, 2009, 16:19
hey Art... since you've been next in line for 3 days, does post 108 still apply? still looking to trade down?
 
126art's in the hall
      ID: 38110289
      Sat, Feb 28, 2009, 21:33
whatever at this point. I have three different players that I was going to draft. So I will listen to an offer.
 
127s R
      ID: 1823918
      Sun, Mar 01, 2009, 09:51
i am awfully sorry...
unexpectedly i found myself without computer and internet access. now i'm online again.
you have my apologies
 
128art's in the hall
      ID: 62419
      Sun, Mar 01, 2009, 10:24

trade offer sent to the great one.


 
129Great One
      ID: 291372517
      Sun, Mar 01, 2009, 11:29
Email returned, thanks for the offer - gonna pass cause Pedroia is who i was hoping for.
 
130art's in the hall
      ID: 62419
      Sun, Mar 01, 2009, 11:54
pick made
 
131Rob J
      ID: 581261317
      Sun, Mar 01, 2009, 19:38
Will pick soon!
 
132 barilko6
      ID: 331161121
      Mon, Mar 02, 2009, 10:03
I am interested in moving down my next pick, which would be the last pick in the 2nd round. (In three picks)

Send me an email if interested
 
133ChicagoTRS
      ID: 3218189
      Mon, Mar 02, 2009, 11:43
I am around...will pick shortly...
 
134ChicagoTRS
      ID: 3218189
      Mon, Mar 02, 2009, 14:49
The 6 hour timer is now on...great we are making some progress today.

I hate my team already...but whatever...lol
 
135art's in the hall
      ID: 29214216
      Mon, Mar 02, 2009, 17:14
let's just hope it keeps moving. Very interesting draft so far.
 
136Rob J
      ID: 13224216
      Mon, Mar 02, 2009, 17:24
Hi guys, just wondering hypothetically what would happen to the draft if someone accidentally took a guy that was already keeper or farmer protected? Just wondering for risk management purposes because I could see it escalating by a small flurry of picks coming after the "tainted" pick and then where would we go?
 
137ChicagoTRS
      ID: 3218189
      Mon, Mar 02, 2009, 17:48
These are the rules we have in place:
• If a manager drafts a player already picked the draft will continue with the next manager and the manager who made the duplicate can replace the duplicate pick at any time. Since the draft immediately continues players selected after the duplicate pick are off the board as far as the duplicate manager is concerned.
• In the case where a manager picks out of order or someone other than the manager picking make an incorrect pick (wrong queue, duplicate pick) and others make picks after the bad pick the draft will revert back to the place where the out of order pick was made.

keeper & farmer list:

Great One
Keeper: Joey Votto
Farmer Pitcher: Johnny Cueto

Barilko
Keeper: Geovani Soto
Farmer Keeper: none

Rob J
Keeper: Jermaine Dye
Pitcher Farmer: none
Hitter Farmer: Jay Bruce

TRS
Keeper: Raul Ibanez
Farmers: none

Art
Keeper: Johnny Damon
Farmers: none

Wiggs
Keeper: Jon Lester
Farmer hitter: Colby Rasmus
Farmer pitcher: Jarrod Parker

Slizz
Keeper: Lastings Milledge
Farmer Pitcher: David Price
Farmer Hitter: Evan Longoria

Toral
Keeper: Zack Greinke
Farmers: none

Jack Hammers
Keeper: Adam Jones
Farmers: none

wolfer
Keeper - Mike Cameron
Farmer Pitcher: Max Scherzer

sR - ZigZag
Keeper: Milton Bradley
Farmers: none

WG
Keeper: Conor Jackson
Pitcher Farmer: Clayton Kershaw
Farmer Hitter: Matt Wieters

Pancho Villa
Keeper: Aaron Rowand
Farmer Pitcher: Blake Beavan
 
138Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Mon, Mar 02, 2009, 17:48
Or, to be specific, we need a better way of isolating unpickable players. Now that Guru has created this thing that disappears middling posts, a Cntrl-F Up on Eva Longoria no longer finds his/her name as a keeper.

Toral
 
139ChicagoTRS
      ID: 3218189
      Mon, Mar 02, 2009, 17:52
I really wish we could enter the keepers before the draft...I am sure there had to be a way to fake it some how or another...

The way it is now it is kind of the drafters responsibility not to make a duplicate pick. It used to be even more of an issue when we did it via message board...at least Kafenatid takes the already picked players off the board.
 
140barilko6
      ID: 161262722
      Mon, Mar 02, 2009, 17:54
I think part of the problem is that some people will have 1 keeper, while others will have 3. That is hard to work into the program specs. Especially when we then would have to figure out which player was the round 14 selection for each particular manager.
 
141ChicagoTRS
      ID: 591302518
      Mon, Mar 02, 2009, 18:53
It does not need to be difficult...would just need to add players to teams before the draft and then let the draft start in the first round. No need to designate the picks as rd 14 or farmers...just need them assigned to a team and not count as draft picks.

It makes no sense to have keepers count as the first picks in the draft...if it is a snake draft and you have an odd number of keepers then all of a sudden you could be starting reverse on the first round.
 
142Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Mon, Mar 02, 2009, 20:50
All these problems are caused becuz we draft on Kafenatid of course.

Do we really gain much by drafting via Kafenatid? I got no e-mails when I was up to draft. From now on I will get spam e-mails whenever someone who has made me a DP is next up....

Toral
 
143barilko6
      ID: 161262722
      Mon, Mar 02, 2009, 21:41
I think the best part of Kafenatid is the blind queuing system Toral, especially for those that cannot be near a computer that often. It keeps the draft flowing.

And we have odd keepers for our other league, we just invert the initial draft order and when the odd number is entered, then we are to our designated first selector.

All that being said, I have a queue set up, feel free to use it for as long as its good.
 
144ChicagoTRS
      ID: 591302518
      Mon, Mar 02, 2009, 21:43
I think the positives far outweigh the negatives with Kafenatid...gives us a clock...easier to leave queues...more organized way to look at the entire draft...trades are easier...the your on the clock email...etc...
 
145Great One
      ID: 291372517
      Mon, Mar 02, 2009, 21:45
You should decline being DP for them then. I always get my emails for my picks, perhaps yours are going into junk mail?

I think Kafenatid has saved a lot of time vs. previous years. And also from talking with Fred, many improvements are going into a revamped system he's working on, including keeper options.

 
147barilko6
      ID: 161262722
      Tue, Mar 03, 2009, 07:41
I am going to hold off on picking for Wiggs'. Jackhammers is timed out, but are we using a 4 hour clock this year?
 
148barilko6
      ID: 161262722
      Tue, Mar 03, 2009, 07:46
Alright...I took off my queue and will make my pick at 9:00 EST.

With 3 of the next 5 picks, and Slizz, TRS, and Wiggs in between those, I could see those picks flying off the board real fast. Will give Jackhammer a little chance to get on and make a pick before that happens.
 
149ChicagoTRS
      ID: 3218189
      Tue, Mar 03, 2009, 09:24
6 hour clock...I will pick in a few minutes...
 
150art's in the hall
      ID: 29214216
      Tue, Mar 03, 2009, 10:49
is anyone one around who could be my designated picker? I don't think I will have a problem, but back to back meetings and I don't want to hold things up. I have two in my que, so I should be good to go.
 
151Great One
      ID: 46215212
      Tue, Mar 03, 2009, 10:52
For the most part I'm around my email during the day...
 
152Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Tue, Mar 03, 2009, 10:52
I'll be around for at least the next few hours.
 
153barilko6
      ID: 1525937
      Tue, Mar 03, 2009, 11:08
I will be here allllllllll day
 
154art's in the hall
      ID: 29214216
      Tue, Mar 03, 2009, 11:48
I made GO my designated picker. Thanks.
 
155wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Tue, Mar 03, 2009, 11:50
I am also around all day every day during the week
 
156ChicagoTRS
      ID: 3218189
      Tue, Mar 03, 2009, 12:22
I am pretty much online 24 hours a day...if anyone needs a designated picker...
 
157barilko6
      ID: 1525937
      Tue, Mar 03, 2009, 18:52
Very nice turn at the end there guys!
 
158Slizz
      ID: 4710371415
      Wed, Mar 04, 2009, 08:52
Don't have PC access at home for the time being...sorry for the delay.
 
159wiggs
      ID: 13110201
      Wed, Mar 04, 2009, 10:21
having an issue at work won't be able to pick for a while I don't have my sheets sorry for the delay
 
160ChicagoTRS
      ID: 3218189
      Wed, Mar 04, 2009, 12:03
wiggs...if your clock gets very short and you need some assistance...just email me a position and I can at least give you a list of best available.
 
161wolfer
      ID: 25521311
      Wed, Mar 04, 2009, 13:24
I screwed up.
 
162barilko6
      ID: 1525937
      Wed, Mar 04, 2009, 13:34
He did...

Stop the draft, Wolfer took my keeper!
 
163ChicagoTRS
      ID: 3218189
      Wed, Mar 04, 2009, 13:36
Fixed...wolfer you can redraft...
 
164ChicagoTRS
      ID: 3218189
      Wed, Mar 04, 2009, 13:42
made a queue selection...we are still rolling along...
 
165wolfer
      ID: 25521311
      Wed, Mar 04, 2009, 14:01
That was my option B. I was going to send you an email to tell you Chicago, but I was called away.
 
166Rob J
      ID: 581261317
      Wed, Mar 04, 2009, 14:46
Hi, courtesy heads up that I see that I'm up and I'll pick soon.
 
167s R
      ID: 1823918
      Wed, Mar 04, 2009, 15:34
queue left for rounds 7 and 8. please don't pick players at same position.
 
168art's in the hall
      ID: 38247418
      Wed, Mar 04, 2009, 19:48
I left a two player que. I have GO and Chic as pickers, but I should also be around.
 
169 Rob J
      ID: 511172421
      Wed, Mar 04, 2009, 22:03
I would be willing to trade the pick for a fair trade using the trade calculator, will listen to offers for a short while.
 
170art's in the hall
      ID: 22153200
      Thu, Mar 05, 2009, 23:55
still made good progress today even with someone being skipped.
 
171ChicagoTRS
      ID: 3218189
      Fri, Mar 06, 2009, 09:44
Definitely interesting draft thus far...

Highlights and notes:

One team has their entire lineup set but has yet to draft a pitcher...

If ARod goes under the knife my team is pretty much cooked...I guess that is what I get for drafting a player I do not like...

We have been moving pretty good after a rough first week...at this point in the draft I would encourage more people to consider using the queue system...it does not take much effort to list a few players for your next pick and select a designated picker or two...especially if there is a chance you will be away 3 hours or more...sitting on the clock for 4 hours or more during prime hours does slow down the draft...

Starting in the 14th round draft picks will have keeper eligibility...

Starting in the 20th round we will be going to a 4 hour clock...

Farmers can be drafted at any point in the draft...

The clock is off on the weekend...but please if you are going to be away for an extended time please leave a message on here or queue up a few picks...

I am looking forward to the season...kind of amazing we are going into our 7th season as a league.

 
172Great One
      ID: 46215212
      Fri, Mar 06, 2009, 12:54
Based on my projections, Barilko is dead last! :)
 
173barilko6
      ID: 9231613
      Fri, Mar 06, 2009, 14:31
Really? I took all of the statistical data, matched it up against funny lines in How I Met Your Mother, and then took that information and correlated it to the rest of the teams in the Lucky 13 and I came out in first....by a Canadian kilometre.

True story.
 
174art's in the hall
      ID: 38247418
      Fri, Mar 06, 2009, 14:33
I haven't drafted a SP, yet. I know it is crazy, I didn't go into it with this strategy but all of the SP I was going to draft got taken just a couple of picks before me. I almost took Linecum in the 2nd rd. I just hope some of my sleeper SP that I eventually pick up will produce OK.
Quick question how are we knowing if someone drafts a farmer?
 
175Jack Hammers
      ID: 4810271313
      Fri, Mar 06, 2009, 14:39
Q is set for rd 10, please dont pick the same position if it comes back.

Thanks
 
176Great One
      ID: 46215212
      Fri, Mar 06, 2009, 15:03
I was trying to tie together the movie Kingpin where they bowl 15 frames, and the Amish being like Canadians and our favorite sitcome - The Stinsons... but it all fell apart when I tried to spit it out. But it was in the metric system so thats why Barilko came out last BY A MILE!!!!
 
177ChicagoTRS
      ID: 3218189
      Fri, Mar 06, 2009, 15:08
Quick question how are we knowing if someone drafts a farmer?

Any player that has 0 major league experience qualifies so I do not think we really have to know. Everyone will just need to declare them either here or at the Yahoo league message board before Apr 5th.
 
178ChicagoTRS
      ID: 3218189
      Fri, Mar 06, 2009, 15:11
Art...lol I did not even realize you are without a SP...sR just drafted his first pitcher period...might be a little run on pitching in the next couple rounds.
 
179Slizz
      ID: 4710371415
      Fri, Mar 06, 2009, 15:17
TRS - Can I not count Price's call up 1 week before our season concluded so I can have him next year too?!??! :)
 
180ChicagoTRS
      ID: 3218189
      Fri, Mar 06, 2009, 15:59
That is the problem with farmers sometimes...those pesky september call ups...typically if you choose a farmer on a low budget team you have a chance to avoid the situation as they do not want to bring them to the majors any earlier than they need to so they don't have to start the arbitration and free agency clock.
 
181Great One
      ID: 46215212
      Fri, Mar 06, 2009, 16:05
I just had an idea for next year... how about if they are called up in Sept, it doesn't count? We wouldn't have to track AB's or IP or anything... just that the player was not in the major leagues as of 8/31 of the previous year (before rosters expand and random guys get called up for no good reason like to pinch run).
 
182ChicagoTRS
      ID: 591302518
      Fri, Mar 06, 2009, 19:06
I will pick in ~30 minutes...want to update my home computer with all of the latest...
 
183Pancho Villa
      ID: 51546319
      Sat, Mar 07, 2009, 09:56
Screw up. Lester is wigg's keeper.

Sorry, Eric.
 
184Pancho Villa
      ID: 51546319
      Sat, Mar 07, 2009, 09:59
I have to leave for a while. Don't know the procedure, but I'll leave a que with a replacement for Lester and set everyone as a DP.
 
185ChicagoTRS
      ID: 591302518
      Sat, Mar 07, 2009, 10:57
Deleted Lester pick...but your queue is not available to me.

WG...12.2 pick is Frank Francisco (RP) Tex...that pick will stand.
 
186Pancho Villa
      ID: 51546319
      Sat, Mar 07, 2009, 11:00
Fixed.
 
187ChicagoTRS
      ID: 591302518
      Sat, Mar 07, 2009, 11:06
cool...we are back on track...
 
188wolfer
      ID: 4211552911
      Sat, Mar 07, 2009, 20:21
Why is the draft paused? Are we not on the clock on the weekends?
 
189wiggs
      ID: 0139914
      Sat, Mar 07, 2009, 22:28
I played in a 2 day holdem tournament today and survived day 1- I will be playing tomorrow all afternoon (hopefully). I left a small queue to get me through my next pick, but if it gets to me a second time I will pick when I get home. Just wanted to give everyone a heads up.
thanks
 
190ChicagoTRS
      ID: 591302518
      Sun, Mar 08, 2009, 11:16
No clock on the weekends. I would prefer to have just an extended clock (12 hour) but kafenatid has the option to leave it the same as the week days or turn it off. So it is off...

I am happy with the progress we made this week...if we keep it up next week we should be through the draft by next weekend.
 
191Slizz
      ID: 4710371415
      Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 13:27
I second GO's proposal...while my case (Price) might not happen that frequently, it sucks when they get called up for one week of fantasy stats and you lose that year of eligibility.
 
192Great One
      ID: 46215212
      Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 13:42
Well I think its simple enough to track. On Sept 1st - we could just declare which guys can still be kept as 1st year farmers the following season. Then whatever happens in Sept happens. Its as though those Sept stats never occured.

Losing a year of eligibility on a guy cause they called him up for a cup of coffee hurts the fun of this concept. In this scenario, Slizz would get Price for this full year and could carry him over through draft time a year from now and then he's done.

Again, he's have to keep him on the roster the whole time etc etc
You really aren't changing anything - just moving the "0 games played" deadline to a more useful date for everyone.

 
193ChicagoTRS
      ID: 3218189
      Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 15:22
I have to think about this...

If I was to make this change...I would propose:
1) Newly drafted farmers still need 0 major league experience.
2) If your farmer gets called up in September...the next season his 2 season clock starts period.

I prefer it this way because I definitely want the 0 major league experience for new drafted farmers...it is easier for me to track who qualifies or not...no gray area.

I do not want to give much more of an edge than that...it is already a huge advantage in this league if you can get a valuable farmer or two.

This would not be put in place until next seasons draft.

Does this seem reasonable?
 
194Great One
      ID: 46215212
      Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 15:59
I think thats fair... so to draft a brand new farmer we'd still be looking for zero appearances guys.

Think of it this way -- everything is exactly the same, we just look the other way if a kid already on the farmer list gets a a cup of coffee in Sept. Its as though it never happened. I think its a great idea.

 
195Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 15:59
Sounds good.
 
196wazaaap_guy
      ID: 11053617
      Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 17:08
Justin Upton is a legit pick right? His farmer status ran out and he's ok to be picked? Pretty surprised he was still out there.
 
197Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 17:13
Yep. He wouldn't have been there one pick later.
 
198wazaaap_guy
      ID: 11053617
      Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 17:14
Morrow was a nice pick too, it was between those two for me. Though I need a SP more than a 6th OF I just couldn't pass up on Upton.
 
199Slizz
      ID: 13152218
      Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 21:12
WG - I thought Upton was a lock for 14.01.

I flirted with taking him @ 13.03, but in the end it would be reaching based on his statline...however, you can now keep him for 2 years, unless you draft someone better!

He, by far, has the most upside of the "keeper" eligible players.

 
200ChicagoTRS
      ID: 3218189
      Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 09:41
We have had a couple very long clocks...2 picks since 5pm yesterday. We are getting later in the draft lets try to take advantage of the queuing option...
 
201wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 13:38
I will be away from the computer for about the next 3 hours. I have a 2 man queue set up for my next pick. Please use it immediately to keep this thing going.
Thanks
Wiggs
 
202barilko6
      ID: 1525937
      Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 13:40
Yeah, this thing has stalled big time with the last couple of picks.
 
203Great One
      ID: 46215212
      Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 13:41
2 picks in the 21 hours since 5 PM rush yesterday... classic!
 
204wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 13:42
queues are a beautiful thing. Especially this late in the draft.

 
205ChicagoTRS
      ID: 3218189
      Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 14:32
2 picks in 22 hours...then 10 picks in 30 minutes...nice...
 
206barilko6
      ID: 1525937
      Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 15:11
Yeah...and hopefully this slide back into the middle of the pack doesn't hold us up as much this time.

 
207Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 15:23
Speak for yourself. I need hours to update my lists after all this unexpected concerted action!
 
208Slizz
      ID: 4710371415
      Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 16:23
Correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't Carpenter someone's keeper?
 
209ChicagoTRS
      ID: 3218189
      Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 16:25
no...Carpenter was tentatively mine but I kept Ibanez...
 
210Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 16:29
I think that was Karen Carpenter.
 
211barilko6
      ID: 1525937
      Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 16:37
Dang I missed that Carpenter change as well, otherwise I would have selected him in round 12
 
212wazaaap_guy
      ID: 11053617
      Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 20:14
Kafenatid appears to be down?
 
213wolfer
      ID: 25521311
      Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 15:46
Gamel - Farmer
 
214Rob J
      ID: 581261317
      Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 16:05
Hanson- farmer
 
215ChicagoTRS
      ID: 3218189
      Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 09:40
jackhammers...deleted pick David Price...he is retained by Slizz...
 
216barilko6
      ID: 43255124
      Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 12:04
keeper & farmer list:

Great One
Keeper: Joey Votto
Farmer Pitcher: Johnny Cueto

Barilko
Keeper: Geovani Soto
Farmer Keeper: none

Rob J
Keeper: Jermaine Dye
Pitcher Farmer: none
Hitter Farmer: Jay Bruce

TRS
Keeper: Raul Ibanez
Farmers: none

Art
Keeper: Johnny Damon
Farmers: none

Wiggs
Keeper: Jon Lester
Farmer hitter: Colby Rasmus
Farmer pitcher: Jarrod Parker

Slizz
Keeper: Lastings Milledge
Farmer Pitcher: David Price
Farmer Hitter: Evan Longoria

Toral
Keeper: Zack Greinke
Farmers: none

Jack Hammers
Keeper: Adam Jones
Farmers: none

wolfer
Keeper - Mike Cameron
Farmer Pitcher: Max Scherzer

sR - ZigZag
Keeper: Milton Bradley
Farmers: none

WG
Keeper: Conor Jackson
Pitcher Farmer: Clayton Kershaw
Farmer Hitter: Matt Wieters

Pancho Villa
Keeper: Aaron Rowand
Farmer Pitcher: Blake Beavan
 
217barilko6
      ID: 43255124
      Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 12:04
Reposted for CTRL-F purposes for us all.
 
218Jack Hammers
      ID: 4810271313
      Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 13:10
oops shouldve known
 
219Great One
      ID: 46215212
      Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 13:11
I was about to take Longoria and was surprised he was available too! :) just kidding... thanks for re-posting.
 
220Rob J
      ID: 581261317
      Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 17:27
Looking to trade for saves, I think my biggest mistake this draft
was probably taking Abreu over Soria. Damn.
 
221art's in the hall
      ID: 262111015
      Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 18:14
I think I might be your man.
 
222 Great One
      ID: 4425722
      Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 18:50
Anyone who doesn't have a pitcher farmer should email me as well... got an offer for one of your remaining picks.
 
223barilko6
      ID: 1525937
      Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 09:27
I have Selected JOE MARTINEZ as a placekeeper for PEDRO MARTINEZ
 
224Great One
      ID: 46215212
      Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 09:44
Nope, you get Joe Martinez. He's good anyway!

San Francisco's 12th-round selection in the 2005 First-Year Player Draft, Martinez has risen through the Minor League system in classic fashion, ascending one classification per year. The right-hander has displayed excellent control, maintaining a 4-to-1 strikeout-to-walk ratio in the Minors. He used his command to thrive last year, finishing 10-10, but leading the Eastern League with a 2.49 ERA for Double-A Connecticut.

 
225Great One
      ID: 46215212
      Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 09:46
Seriously, I might just trade for a 10-10 career minor leaguer on a crappy franchise! :)

Yonder Alonso, 1B, CIN - Farmer Hitter for GO

And if anyone wants Cueto or Bowden as a farmer pitcher, let me know - we can work out a deal for a pick right now.

 
226barilko6
      ID: 1525937
      Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 09:47
wow...I have never even heard of him!!! haha

If anyone seriously wants him as a prospect, please let TRS know.
 
227Great One
      ID: 46215212
      Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 09:48
I wouldn't worry about it barilko... I don't think he's on anyone's radar more than Dave Steib.
 
228Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 09:53
Yonder is a great pick just for his name even if he never plays a major league game. He was awarded "Best Name" on my favourite prospect site ahead of some guys (or girls...sometimes the name makes it hard to tell) whom I shouldn't mention while the draft is still on.

But I will say that Bombo Rivera, Matt Batts and Drungo Larue Hazewood haven't been chosen yet.
 
229barilko6
      ID: 1525937
      Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 10:02
You never know who the guys in this group might or might not want!

My team sucks so far, so I needed to take a reach with Pedro and hope he signs with the Dodgers and gets to play there. It is a faily low risk at this point in the draft, but a healthy Pedro, playing in the pitcher's park that is Chavez, could have high upside.
 
230ChicagoTRS
      ID: 3218189
      Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 10:05
Marked down Pedro...

two thirds through the draft...we are getting there. after this round we will be moving to a 4 hour clock.
 
231 Rob J
      ID: 581261317
      Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 11:04
Hey art, maybe we can make a deal, I have some power to trade,
doesn't have to be anybody that great (closer wise) but someone
with at least some job security would be nice.
 
232Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 15:22
A. McCutchen -- Hitter Farmer
 
233Rob J
      ID: 581261317
      Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 18:43
keeper & farmer list (updated w/ new farmers)

Great One
Keeper: Joey Votto
Farmer Pitcher: Johnny Cueto
Farmer Hitter: Yonder Alonso

Barilko
Keeper: Geovani Soto
Farmer Keeper: none

Rob J
Keeper: Jermaine Dye
Pitcher Farmer: Tommy Hanson
Hitter Farmer: Jay Bruce

TRS
Keeper: Raul Ibanez
Farmers: none

Art
Keeper: Johnny Damon
Farmers: none

Wiggs
Keeper: Jon Lester
Farmer hitter: Colby Rasmus
Farmer pitcher: Jarrod Parker

Slizz
Keeper: Lastings Milledge
Farmer Pitcher: David Price
Farmer Hitter: Evan Longoria

Toral
Keeper: Zack Greinke
Farmer Hitter: Andrew McClutchen

Jack Hammers
Keeper: Adam Jones
Farmers: none

wolfer
Keeper - Mike Cameron
Farmer Pitcher: Max Scherzer
Farmer Hitter: Mat Gamel

sR - ZigZag
Keeper: Milton Bradley
Farmers: none

WG
Keeper: Conor Jackson
Pitcher Farmer: Clayton Kershaw
Farmer Hitter: Matt Wieters

Pancho Villa
Keeper: Aaron Rowand
Farmer Pitcher: Blake Beavan
 
235ChicagoTRS
      ID: 591302518
      Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 20:37
doh...reading is a skill...i saw the new farmer list and got confused and thought we had a dup pick...everything is how it should be...carry on...
 
236Pancho Villa
      ID: 12291420
      Sun, Mar 15, 2009, 09:07
Why is this draft stopped?
 
237ChicagoTRS
      ID: 591302518
      Sun, Mar 15, 2009, 10:21
not stopped...slizz just not picking...i think he is without computer this weekend...really wish he would have used a queue as we were close to his pick friday...next season we will have a 12 hour clock on the weekends.
 
238Great One
      ID: 46215212
      Mon, Mar 16, 2009, 09:00
If I wasn't m.i.a helping carry boxes at our bridal shower all damn day, I would have called him. Sorry bout that.
 
239wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Mon, Mar 16, 2009, 09:10
GO- Where are your priorities?
 
240Great One
      ID: 46215212
      Mon, Mar 16, 2009, 09:40
Apparently out of whack?! though I did get a sweet tool cabinet out of the deal. Now I just need some tools!
 
241wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Mon, Mar 16, 2009, 10:23
If you have a Big Lots near you- that is where to go- I have pretty much stocked my tool box from there for about half what you would pay at a Home Depot.
 
242Great One
      ID: 46215212
      Mon, Mar 16, 2009, 11:54
I bought a sweet bar at Big Lots!
 
243art's in the hall
      ID: 35249178
      Tue, Mar 17, 2009, 13:27
I am unclear if we supposed to post a farmers when we pick.
Pedro Alvarez farmer hitting
 
244Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Tue, Mar 17, 2009, 15:08
Queue good only gor round 24.

Round 25 pick is Zack Greinke, P, KC (keeper)
 
245Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Tue, Mar 17, 2009, 16:02
Boy does that suck. I went to the trouble of e-mailing Fred and getting Trevor Cahill added to the player list and then someone steals him before he gets back to me.

Cancel that comment about Greinke. Is this draft really 28 rounds? Does that include 2 tounds for farmers?
 
246ChicagoTRS
      ID: 3218189
      Tue, Mar 17, 2009, 16:05
yes 28 rounds...

26 man rosters and 2 farmers...

So really it will only be 27 rounds as everyone had at least 1 keeper.

I am working on the last three rounds right now to post a list of how many picks everyone has remaining.
 
249ChicagoTRS
      ID: 3218189
      Tue, Mar 17, 2009, 16:22
26.1 Pancho Villa
26.2 wazaaap_guy Farmer Hitter: Matt Wieters
26.3 toral
26.4 sR
26.5 art for the hall
26.6 robJ
26.7 wolfer
26.8 jackhammers
26.9 wiggs Jarrod Parker
26.10 great one
26.11 slizz Farmer Hitter: Evan Longoria
26.12 chicagotrs
26.13 barilko6
27.1 barilko6
27.2 chicagotrs
27.3 slizz Farmer Pitcher: David Price
27.4 great one Farmer Pitcher: Johnny Cueto
27.5 wiggs Colby Rasmus
27.6 jackhammers
27.7 wolfer Farmer Pitcher: Max Scherzer
27.8 robJ Hitter Farmer: Jay Bruce
27.9 art for the hall
27.10 sR
27.11 toral
27.12 wazaaap_guy Pitcher Farmer: Clayton Kershaw
27.13 Pancho Villa Farmer Pitcher: Blake Beavan
28.1 Pancho Villa Late round keeper - Aaron Rowand
28.2 wazaaap_guy Keeper: Conor Jackson
28.3 toral Keeper: Zack Greinke
28.4 sR Keeper: Milton Bradley
28.5 art for the hall Keeper: Johnny Damon
28.6 robJ Keeper: Jermaine Dye
28.7 wolfer Late Round keeper - Mike Cameron
28.8 jackhammers Keeper: Adam Jones
28.9 wiggs Keeper: Jon Lester
28.10 great one Keeper: Joey Votto
28.11 slizz Keeper: Lastings Milledge
28.12 chicagotrs Keeper: Raul Ibanez
28.13 barilko6 Keeper: Geovani Soto
 
250Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Tue, Mar 17, 2009, 16:25
Wade Davis -- Pitcher Farmer
 
251ChicagoTRS
      ID: 3218189
      Tue, Mar 17, 2009, 16:26
I will either free form the keeper/farmer picks or you can enter them when you get on the clock. Remember...you need to draft a farmer hitter and pitcher.

Here are the remaining picks to be made in the last rounds:
26.1 Pancho Villa
26.3 toral
26.4 sR
26.5 art for the hall
26.6 robJ
26.7 wolfer
26.8 jackhammers
26.10 great one
26.12 chicagotrs
26.13 barilko6
27.1 barilko6
27.2 chicagotrs
27.6 jackhammers
27.9 art for the hall
27.10 sR
27.11 toral
 
253wiggs
      ID: 0139914
      Tue, Mar 17, 2009, 22:19
my queue is set for the last 3 picks. use it whenever my pick comes up.
 
254 Great One
      ID: 46215212
      Wed, Mar 18, 2009, 10:28
Also remember I have an extra pitcher farmer by mistake in Bowden - so if you don't like your options, let me know and we can get him to you. And we could even find a way to get Cueto in your farmer carry over spot for cheap.
 
255Pancho Villa
      ID: 9271811
      Wed, Mar 18, 2009, 13:16
I have to leave, and my pick is next. Unless airallnite picks one of my players in que, I'm done.

pick #25 - regular pick in que

pick #26 - farmer hitter in que

pick #27 - keeper A Rowand in que

pick #28 - farmer pitcher Beavan not in que, not in system

Two missed picks in round #25, a couple in #24.

You'd think everyone would understand the que system by now.
 
256Pancho Villa
      ID: 9271811
      Wed, Mar 18, 2009, 14:23
Had to run back home for a minute, so I made my picks.

Viciedo is my farmer hitter.
 
257wazaaap_guy
      ID: 11053617
      Wed, Mar 18, 2009, 14:27
Scherzer is Wolfer's farmer.
 
258ChicagoTRS
      ID: 3218189
      Wed, Mar 18, 2009, 14:34
PV...I deleted the Scherzer pick as he is a retained farmer...I remade the Viciedo pick (I had to us the 25.13 pick as the site would only let me use that pick). You need to make a new pick at 26.1.
 
259ChicagoTRS
      ID: 3218189
      Wed, Mar 18, 2009, 14:49
Please no one make a queue pick for PV...that is his keeper...he needs to make one more regular pick to replace Scherzer.
 
260Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Wed, Mar 18, 2009, 14:52
Should I wait for PV?
 
261ChicagoTRS
      ID: 3218189
      Wed, Mar 18, 2009, 14:58
barilko...I updated the 19.1 Joe Martinez pick to be Pedro Martinez (he is now in the system)
 
262ChicagoTRS
      ID: 3218189
      Wed, Mar 18, 2009, 15:00
No...you can continue if you want. I would.

At this point we are so late in the draft it really does not matter if someone gets skipped over a few picks...and it is in the rules that in cases like this the draft does continue.
 
263Great One
      ID: 46215212
      Wed, Mar 18, 2009, 15:11
Damn, I was hoping to pick Longoria and hoping Slizz wouldn't notice! :)
 
264Great One
      ID: 46215212
      Wed, Mar 18, 2009, 15:12
Crap - I'm sorry, I selected Rowand for him missing that was his keeper and not til next "round"...
 
265ChicagoTRS
      ID: 3218189
      Wed, Mar 18, 2009, 15:32
deleted rowand...PV still needs to make a regular pick.

we can continue with the draft.
 
266s R
      ID: 1823918
      Wed, Mar 18, 2009, 16:10
Jason Heyward - farmer hitter
 
267ChicagoTRS
      ID: 591302518
      Wed, Mar 18, 2009, 20:18
27.02 Brett Anderson, Farmer Pitcher Oakland

used Brad Ausmus as a placeholder...
 
268s R
      ID: 1823918
      Thu, Mar 19, 2009, 07:45
David Huff - farmer pitcher
 
269Pancho Villa
      ID: 532461819
      Thu, Mar 19, 2009, 08:24
28.01 - Blake Beavan - farmer pitcher

Used some guy with a funny name as placeholder
 
270ChicagoTRS
      ID: 3218189
      Thu, Mar 19, 2009, 09:12
woohoo! draft complete...

Jackhammers still has his last 3 picks to make. He has until the end of the day today to make those picks or he will just start with 3 empty roster spots he can fill with free agents. I will stop the draft at 5pm this evening. I think this is fair as it would be an advantage to be able to watch the news wire and cherry pick players for the next week before I start the season in Yahoo.

 
271ChicagoTRS
      ID: 3218189
      Thu, Mar 19, 2009, 09:30
Important notes:

I will enter the players into Yahoo by the end of this weekend.

I will start the season Mar 30th in Yahoo...this gives us a week before the season starts.

All free agents will be on waivers to start the season including teams farmers. Do not pick up your farmers until they come off of waivers.

Teams will have until April 13th to roster your farmers (1 week from MLB season start) or they will become free agents open to the league. I will post a reminder on the Yahoo message board for players available in the Yahoo DB.

It would be helpful if everyone would post their new farmers on the Yahoo board.

Thanks...good luck this season!

 
272Jack Hammers
      ID: 4810271313
      Fri, Mar 20, 2009, 00:02
Sorry, thought we were done. I'll just pick up free agents.

Max Ramirez (Tx) qualifies as the farmer correct?
 
273barilko6
      ID: 18220206
      Fri, Mar 20, 2009, 08:22
My Farmers:

Kenshin Kawakami
Justin Smoak
 
274ChicagoTRS
      ID: 3218189
      Fri, Mar 20, 2009, 09:01
JH...Ramirez does not qualify as a farmer as he played 17 games in the majors last season.

If you still need both farmers...you can simply name them here for two of the picks you missed or post them on the Yahoo board.
 
275ChicagoTRS
      ID: 3218189
      Mon, Mar 23, 2009, 16:56
inputted draft results into yahoo...
keeper list availability is on yahoo...

still need two farmers from jackhammers...

all future communication will go through yahoo message board...
 
276ChicagoTRS
      ID: 3218189
      Mon, Mar 23, 2009, 16:57
info to save for next season:
Great One
Keeper: Joey Votto
Farmer Pitcher: Johnny Cueto
Farmer Hitter: Yonder Alonso

Barilko
Keeper: Geovani Soto
Farmer Pitcher: Kenshin Kawakami
Farmer Hitter: Justin Smoak

Rob J
Keeper: Jermaine Dye
Farmer Pitcher: Tommy Hanson
Farmer Hitter: Jay Bruce

TRS
Keeper: Raul Ibanez
Farmer Pitcher: Brett Anderson
Farmer Hitter: Carlos Santana

Art
Keeper: Johnny Damon
Farmer Pitcher: Rick Porcello
Farmer Hitter: Pedro Alvarez

Wiggs
Keeper: Jon Lester
Farmer Pitcher: Colby Rasmus
Farmer Hitter: Jarrod Parker

Slizz
Keeper: Lastings Milledge
Farmer Pitcher: David Price
Farmer Hitter: Evan Longoria

Toral
Keeper: Zack Greinke
Farmer Pitcher: Wade Davis
Farmer Hitter: Andrew McCutchen

Jack Hammers
Keeper: Adam Jones
Farmer Pitcher:
Farmer Hitter:

wolfer
Keeper: Mike Cameron
Farmer Pitcher: Max Scherzer
Farmer Hitter: Mat Gamel

sR - ZigZag
Keeper: Milton Bradley
Farmer Pitcher: David Huff
Farmer Hitter: Jason Heyward

WG
Keeper: Conor Jackson
Farmer Pitcher: Clayton Kershaw
Farmer Hitter: Matt Wieters

Pancho Villa
Keeper: Aaron Rowand
Farmer Pitcher: Blake Beavan
Farmer Hitter: Dayan Viciedo
 
277Slizz
      ID: 242122814
      Wed, Apr 01, 2009, 09:24
Do I have to pick up David Price once hes off waivers?

Or do I wait until he gets called back up again?

 
278Great One
      ID: 46215212
      Wed, Apr 01, 2009, 09:28
Think you need to get him after waivers (which is why we have all the extra bench spots).
 
279Great One
      ID: 4778411
      Fri, Aug 07, 2009, 09:37
Do we want to bump the trade deadline back to August 30th like most other leagues? Apparently Yahoo picked a default of 8/16 when you carry over settings. But you can go a full 2 weeks later and we've adjusted in Dirty Dozen, and its that way in G20, RIBC etc. I can't imagine a trade deadline nearly two months before the season ends (Oct. 4th).
 
280ChicagoTRS
      ID: 550421116
      Thu, Jan 21, 2010, 13:43
Can't believe it is almost this time of year again...~30 day count down before we begin the draft...
 
281Great One
      ID: 46051211
      Thu, Jan 21, 2010, 14:08
As I mentioned in my victory celebration speech - I don't expect to return this season. This league really frustrated me - mainly a few of the managers who didn't check in for half the season made things difficult. If we got some new blood I'd consider it but I think I'd rather try doing an RIBC league at this point.

Thanks to TRS for all the work and concepts, it was a fun league.

 
282barilko6
      ID: 29028229
      Fri, Jan 22, 2010, 10:28
Yes, I tried retiring last season but was talked into coming back. But alas, for some of the same reasons GO mentioned, I am going to step down as well.
 
283ChicagoTRS
      ID: 550421116
      Mon, Jan 25, 2010, 17:54
Considering calling it the end of the league...unless I get encouragement otherwise.

7 years is a pretty good run and was always an interesting league.

I am so busy with goalline blitz lately that I am sure I would have slacked in fantasy. May just join one of the RIBC leagues.

What says you?
 
284art's in the hall
      ID: 59072520
      Mon, Jan 25, 2010, 21:12
I would like to keep it going. 7 years is a very good run for a league, we have had plenty of good owners, so I say lets keep it going.
 
285wolfer
      ID: 200312720
      Wed, Jan 27, 2010, 21:39
I'd love to keep it going, but since I am one of the newbies, I'll leave it up the people who have been in this league for a while.
 
286wazaaap_guy
      ID: 31051423
      Thu, Feb 04, 2010, 10:59
I would love to keep it going too... great group of managers here.
 
287GoldCoach
      ID: 893426
      Thu, Feb 04, 2010, 12:25
I would be interested in picking up one for one of the departing mgrs.
 
288ChicagoTRS
      ID: 550421116
      Wed, Feb 17, 2010, 17:52
Unfortunately I think Lucky 13 is done. I want to thank everyone for 7 fun seasons. Some good competition...some not so good...but overall a very fun league...I thought some good unique rules.
 
289barilko6
      ID: 42181717
      Wed, Feb 17, 2010, 18:08
For sure. Thanks for running this league TRS. I still remember my first ever late round keeper: Guillermo Mota!
 
290wiggs
      ID: 35149919
      Wed, Feb 17, 2010, 20:28
too bad- Thanks for everything TRS
 
291art's in the hall
      ID: 261101910
      Fri, Feb 19, 2010, 11:10
It was a fun league with good managers. best of luck and thanks TRS.
 
292Great One
      ID: 2510199
      Fri, Feb 19, 2010, 15:19
I too will miss this league and all its intricacies, hopefully I'll see some of you over in the RIBC AA leagues.
 
293 Rob J
      ID: 471562415
      Wed, Feb 24, 2010, 16:57
I would consider carrying on the league if there's some interest. I would need everyone's keepers and farmers. I think it's impressive we got the league to last for a long time. If not, its a shame I won't be able to field Tommy Hanson next year! Good luck to everyone this year.

 
294ChicagoTRS
      ID: 550421116
      Thu, Feb 25, 2010, 17:21
If you keep the league going I am sure I have the draft results archived somewhere and they are probably still on kafenatid. I generally use the draft results and the rosters on Yahoo are also probably still available.
 
295wazaaap_guy
      ID: 31051423
      Thu, Feb 25, 2010, 17:35
I would definitely still be interested.
 
296s R
      ID: 1802064
      Fri, Feb 26, 2010, 04:15
I'm ready to go...
 
297Toral
      ID: 4155487
      Fri, Feb 26, 2010, 07:10
I am ready to resume.
 
298art's in the hall
      ID: 221472612
      Fri, Feb 26, 2010, 13:47
i am still interested.
 
299Pancho Villa
      ID: 29118157
      Fri, Feb 26, 2010, 17:08
Interested
 
300wolfer
      ID: 25521311
      Fri, Feb 26, 2010, 17:29
interested
 
301art's in the hall
      ID: 241452622
      Fri, Feb 26, 2010, 23:50
If I count right, I think we have 11 of us that still want to play. Maybe we could just change the league name.