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Subject: RIBC 2009: Draft discussion


  Posted by: Guru - [330592710] Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 10:29

The draft will be activated shortly, although I do not expect the first pick to be made until Friday, and the clock will not be turned on until Monday morning. The early activation is to allow people to set up queues, as needed. (Although the clock will be off through the opening weekend, I do expect to complete at least one round before Monday.)

We will once again use a 6 hour clock. The clock will pause between 1am and 7am ET. I know that the pause times extend late for easterners and end early for westerners, but with a 6 hour pause, this still provides a 12 hour window for any pick which extends through the pause period, which should be ample.

If you time out, the draft will move on. Skipped picks can be made up at any time thererafter. If your turn arises and you still have an outstanding skipped pick, I will probably move the draft on to the next picker. If we get well ahead of pace, I may relax that stance. But hopefully it will not become an issue. This also means that people on the turn have a single clock period to make their first pick, or both picks will be skipped.

Although the clock will be set at 6 hours, we cannot make satisfactory progress if many managers use much of that allowance. We need to average about 1.5 rounds (24 picks) per day, so please do your best to keep up that pace. If we fall behind, managers who are chronically slow may be put on an shorter clock. Note that the clock will not be suspended on weekends (except for the opening weekend.)

We will use this thread for logistical communications, to help others anticipate potential delays, to recruit someone to accept a queue, to announce or solicit trades, and to coordinate changes in the clock. Please check this thread regularly throughout the draft, as we will rely on it as the primary means of communication among RIBC managers.

Established draft etiquette is that no undrafted player names should be mentioned either here or in the rationale threads, and in the event of an infraction, should be edited out.

After two rounds have been completed, a separate draft rationale thread will be started. We will try to keep that thread on a 2 round lag. Therefore, after you make your pick in round 3, please immediately post your round 1 pick rationale, and so forth. I usually draft my rationales as I make picks, so that all I need to do when the time comes is copy and paste. I recommend that approach for everyone.

You may draft a player even if he is not currently listed on Yahoo. In that event, you will have the first rights to claim that player when he is listed, as long as you preserve that roster slot for him.

Once the draft is completed, you will no longer be able to protect a slot for any unlisted player. At that point, unlisted players will only be available through the standard Yahoo waiver/free agent process.

When you select a player, please list him at the position that you primarily expect to use him. Of course, these positions are not binding, and are only indicative of your anticipated usage. Yahoo position eligibilities will be used throughout the season.

The draft software allows you to set up a queue, and to make that queue available to any other manager who you authorize as a designated picker. Be aware that, as commish, I am automatically authorized as a DP for everyone. Your queue will not be visible to your DPs (or me) until it is your turn to pick, and you may specify whether the entire queue should be visible, or only the top name. However, if you do not make your queue "available", then no one will be able to see it when it is your turn. If you want your queue to be used, then please be sure that you have it set as available. If you do not want your queue used, then be sure to make it unavailable. If it is your turn and a queue is available to me, I will make that pick for you unless you have posted explicit instructions to the contrary in this thread.

In order to keep the draft moving at an acceptable pace, please make active use of queues if you expect to be unavailable when it is your turn. Recent drafts have gone very smoothly due primarily to the active use of queues.

The draft will last for 25 rounds. You are not required to draft a player for every position.
 
2Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 10:39
You may use the following links to track the RIBC draft and any of the QL drafts. Note that a draft grid appears at the bottom of each page.

RIBC: http://rotoguru1.com/cgi-bin/kpeek.pl?287

AAA Intl: http://rotoguru1.com/cgi-bin/kpeek.pl?279

AAA PCL: http://rotoguru1.com/cgi-bin/kpeek.pl?286

AA Southern http://rotoguru1.com/cgi-bin/kpeek.pl?292
 
3Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 10:44
If anyone is blocked from the rotoguru1.com domain, you may still be able access updated threads on a read-only basis using this URL:
http://rhccucc.org/cgi-bin/endrun.pl?board=base&thread=19784

Simply substitute the proper board name and thread number in the URL. You can find both values in the URL of the targeted thread. (The link above is set up for this thread.)

Note that you will not be able to post anything using that URL.
 
4Uptown Bombers
      Donor
      ID: 035616416
      Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 05:51
My queue is available. Thanks in advance for making my pick.
 
5Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 15:41
LOL........no "injury discount" available on Utley with Philsphan in the house!
 
6Philsphan
      ID: 202431314
      Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 16:43
Yep, could be a homer pick. We'll see though. I think he'll be just fine.
 
7Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 16:45
Nothing wrong with homer picks!
 
8Philsphan
      ID: 02571314
      Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 16:57
Especially when he's really really good...
 
9Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 16:58
Sizemore at 10? Merry F-ing Christmas.
 
10Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 18:07
I figured I'd be taking either Kinsler or Howard. Never expected to see Sizemore available there.
 
11Uptown Bombers
      Donor
      ID: 035616416
      Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 19:34
I was debating between Cabrera and Sizemore for my pick and 5. Nice grab at 10.
 
12jseth333
      Dude
      ID: 24100310
      Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 22:11
so much for my plan of taking Pedroia and Beltran
 
13filthy
      ID: 388531216
      Sat, Mar 14, 2009, 04:30
im on deck and leaving a queue that is valid for round 2 and 3.
 
14Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sat, Mar 14, 2009, 09:51
I'm having trouble with my second round pick, and if someone picking later in round 2 wants to trade up by swapping 2nd and 3rd rounders, I'm interested in that.

I'll wait a few hours, and if no one expresses interest, then I'll figure something out.
 
15Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sat, Mar 14, 2009, 14:21
Sorry for the delay. I've moved on.
 
16Dave R
      SuperDude
      ID: 3010361110
      Sat, Mar 14, 2009, 15:04
I think Guru has a man crush on Kevin Youkilis
 
17Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sat, Mar 14, 2009, 17:05
I had already written my rationale, and used those words exactly.
 
18JL
      ID: 49231510
      Sun, Mar 15, 2009, 12:05
I'm having trouble making a decision with my picks. I will pick around 3 pm eastern time. I apologize for the delay.
 
19filthy
      ID: 388531216
      Sun, Mar 15, 2009, 22:31
Just got in and I'm up, so I will catch up and pick in the next 10 mins if anyones waiting.
 
21filthy
      ID: 388531216
      Sun, Mar 15, 2009, 23:03
jumped the gun a little on the rationales. will edit out the placeholder comment.
 
22filthy
      ID: 388531216
      Sun, Mar 15, 2009, 23:22
Mini SP run caused me to alter course a little. No chance Doc was making it back around to me. Only 1 or 2 Aces left.
 
24Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Mon, Mar 16, 2009, 08:41
Would someone please post the RIBC settings here? The settings from the other thread are now in the "hidden text" section, and when I make the hidden text posts visible I cannot highlight them in order to cut and paste as I can with regular posts.
 
25Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Mar 16, 2009, 10:37
Season Type: Full
Draft Type: Offline Draft
Max Teams: 16
Scoring Type: Rotisserie
Player Universe: All baseball
New Players Become Available: As soon as Yahoo! adds them
Max Moves: No maximum
Max Trades: No maximum
Trade Reject Time: 1
Trade End Date: August 30, 2009
Waiver Time: 2 days
Can't Cut List Provider: None
Trade Review: Commissioner
Post Draft Players: Follow Waiver Rules
Max Games Played: 162
Max Innings Pitched: 1350
Weekly Deadline: Daily - Tomorrow
Start Scoring on: Sunday, Apr 5
Roster Positions: C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, CI, MI, OF, OF, OF, OF, Util, SP, RP, P, P, P, P, P, P, P, BN, BN, BN, BN
Stat Categories: R, RBI, SB, OBP, SLG, W, SV, K, ERA, WHIP
 
27Species
      ID: 444482616
      Mon, Mar 16, 2009, 11:22
Besides, I was afraid it could be worse, something like avascular necrosis of femoral head - a common complication stemming from steroid use, which might need total hip replacement surgery.

Who on earth let the orthopedic surgeon in here?!? LOL
 
28Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Mar 16, 2009, 11:28
We need to do better on the timing of rationales. If you aren't ready to post, please-please-please post a placeholder. If we get to far behind, it becomes so daunting to post multiple placeholders that no one (but me) seems to be willing to do it.

 
29Uptown Bombers
      Donor
      ID: 035616416
      Mon, Mar 16, 2009, 11:38
I am going to be stepping out shortly. Please use my queue for round 4 only.

I expect to be back around 4pm.
 
31Bags@work
      ID: 31442714
      Mon, Mar 16, 2009, 14:29
I'll make my pick in just a min. I will post my rationale when I get home this afternoon.
 
32Rheo
      ID: 59157915
      Mon, Mar 16, 2009, 16:58
I can't access this site at work, hence me being late with the rationals. I'll do something up now.
 
34Dave R
      SuperDude
      ID: 3010361110
      Mon, Mar 16, 2009, 17:37
Couldn't help but laugh at this, copied from Vampire's rationale in that thread:

(Mom gives if looks could kill glance to Dad)

Dad (who has been married too long to care if Mom gives that look)


A classic.
 
35Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Mon, Mar 16, 2009, 17:50
Concur wholeheartedly. I know exactly what the look is like, and I know exactly the feeling of being married long enough to not give a rat's ass.
 
36holt
      ID: 4410182818
      Mon, Mar 16, 2009, 21:32
will turn my rationales in when i get back home later.
 
40holt
      ID: 4410182818
      Tue, Mar 17, 2009, 03:27
I've got to go to OKC tomorrow (like a 80 or 90 mile drive) and I've got a few things to do there. There's no way I can build a sensible queue so I'll take a laptop with me and try to check in when possible. There are a lot of picks before mine comes up so hopefully you guys go nice and slow and I don't end up holding things up.
 
41Uptown Bombers
      Donor
      ID: 035616416
      Tue, Mar 17, 2009, 05:12
My queue is set for round 5.
 
46Da Bomb
      ID: 442251711
      Tue, Mar 17, 2009, 13:26
FYI I am away this week so I will catch up on my rationales when I get back.
 
47Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Tue, Mar 17, 2009, 15:12
Mauer

No guts. No glory. He just seemed to fall too far, even with the injury concern. Here's hoping I didn't just blow my 6th round pick.
 
50Rheo
      ID: 59157915
      Tue, Mar 17, 2009, 17:58
I'm out for the night. I left a queue but it doesn't totally cover me sorry but I'm hoping it doesn't get back to me. I'm running late, hence not a full queue. Please only use it for my first pick. Also if I come up against the end clock tonight, could you please let my pick go. I'm up early and would prefer to make my pick myself. It'll be before the clock starts. Thanks and have a good night.
 
52holt
      ID: 4410182818
      Tue, Mar 17, 2009, 22:11
just got home. very cool to see I didn't stall the draft.
 
54Uptown Bombers
      Donor
      ID: 035616416
      Wed, Mar 18, 2009, 05:44
My queue is good for round 7.
 
55JKaye
      Leader
      ID: 01372359
      Wed, Mar 18, 2009, 08:04
I will need a little time to sort out this next pick. I will make it in
about 90 minutes.
 
56filthy
      ID: 388531216
      Wed, Mar 18, 2009, 11:27
I have got 4 rationales coming soon, then I'm caught up.
 
65Uptown Bombers
      Donor
      ID: 035616416
      Wed, Mar 18, 2009, 18:48
Man, I went back and forth, back again, and then in a whole new direction on that last pick. So many options out there. I hope Doumit rewards me.
 
69Uptown Bombers
      Donor
      ID: 035616416
      Thu, Mar 19, 2009, 05:17
Queue set for round 9.
 
72Bash Brothers
      ID: 3729188
      Thu, Mar 19, 2009, 13:38
Gotta leave for a while.

I'll be back at around 7~8pm ET.
Please use my Queue for Round 9 only. Thanks
 
74filthy
      ID: 388531216
      Thu, Mar 19, 2009, 20:38
Q is ready, and my rationales are behind still...
 
77holt
      ID: 4410182818
      Fri, Mar 20, 2009, 03:49
left a queue for rd 11. pick from it asap. I'm sleeping in.
 
78Uptown Bombers
      Donor
      ID: 035616416
      Fri, Mar 20, 2009, 05:44
My queue is set for round 11.
 
79Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Fri, Mar 20, 2009, 12:31
30 minutes until our first possible time-out.

Da Bomb did make his 10.14 pick at 1am, and left no queue, so he must have planned to be able to make his next pick. This timing should be no surprise.
 
80Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Fri, Mar 20, 2009, 12:33
No sooner posted than resolved. Good.

Our overall pace is fine.
 
83Bash Brothers
      ID: 3729188
      Fri, Mar 20, 2009, 14:26
Q for Rd11 only. Thanks

I'll be back at around 8pm
 
84Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Fri, Mar 20, 2009, 15:18
Just a cautionary note about queues.

Yesterday morning, Dave R set up a queue, and left instructions (via email) to use it for one round only.

Last night, when his second pick was due, I left it alone. He did get on and make his pick. As commish, I am able to tell who actually made the pick, so I could tell that it was done my him. If it had been made by someone else, I would have questioned it at the time.

This morning, when his turn came due, there was a name in his queue. Since I knew he had been back for the previous pick, I naturally assumed that the queue was good again, and picked from it.

As it turns out, Dave simply forgot to make his queue unavailable last night after picking last night, so I picked from a stale queue. But if I can see that you have an available queue, and previous instructions appear to be obsolete, I'll pick. So Dave is out of luck - assuming he didn't want that pick.

So the word of caution is, if you make a queue available after you've clearly made your own pick, and left no updated instructions, I'm not going to rely on instructions left several rounds prior.
 
86filthy
      ID: 388531216
      Fri, Mar 20, 2009, 20:58
will pick in the next 10 mins.
 
94Uptown Bombers
      Donor
      ID: 035616416
      Sat, Mar 21, 2009, 09:30
I'll need a few minutes here, Milledge was my pick.
 
95Uptown Bombers
      Donor
      ID: 035616416
      Sat, Mar 21, 2009, 10:17
I will be out for most of the day. I'm leaving behind a queue for round 13.
 
113holt
      ID: 4410182818
      Mon, Mar 23, 2009, 00:09
DaBomb's mission in life is to make my life miserable.
 
114Uptown Bombers
      Donor
      ID: 035616416
      Mon, Mar 23, 2009, 05:45
My queue is set for round 15.
 
116Bags@work
      ID: 31442714
      Mon, Mar 23, 2009, 08:13
Back from vacation.

Queue is set for round 15 only.

Guru, I'll get busy on my rationales tonight.
 
117Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Mar 23, 2009, 11:33
We're on a very nice pace. At this rate, we'll finish next weekend.

I'll work on transferring over rationales later today.
 
120Rheo
      ID: 59157915
      Mon, Mar 23, 2009, 22:06
I've left my queue for the round. I'll catch up on my rationales tomorrow while at work and put them up when I get home.
 
123Uptown Bombers
      Donor
      ID: 035616416
      Tue, Mar 24, 2009, 05:24
My queue is set for round 16. I'll check in around 1 pm.
 
124Bags@work
      ID: 31442714
      Tue, Mar 24, 2009, 08:04
Queue is set for round 16.

Thanks
 
125filthy
      ID: 388531216
      Tue, Mar 24, 2009, 08:50
Well, hopefully I'm not the only one who has a trainwreck of a queue right now...

Got enough names to last me the draft, but no idea where to begin ordering them at this point.
 
134Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Tue, Mar 24, 2009, 14:19
My apologies for my intermittent access over the weekend and the resulting delays. I will get caught up on rationales.
 
135Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Mar 24, 2009, 14:51
JL's queue for 17.01 seems a bit unusual, so I am trying to email him before moving on.
 
136JL
      ID: 57282416
      Tue, Mar 24, 2009, 18:15
I'm sorry about the delay. I was without internet access all day; I didn't have time to write instructions for my queue and I just assumed that some of the players in my queue were going to be taken before my turn. I wouldn't have had a problem if you had just taken the player listed on the queue, but I appreciate everybody waiting for me. Thanks, and apologies.
 
137holt
      ID: 4410182818
      Tue, Mar 24, 2009, 18:23
np JL. just got home - workin on my pick.
 
138holt
      ID: 4410182818
      Tue, Mar 24, 2009, 18:24
actually, I do have a prob. I was going to take matsui on my next pick. maybe I should have taken him then stewart.
 
139Uptown Bombers
      Donor
      ID: 035616416
      Tue, Mar 24, 2009, 18:55
Ouch, I really expected one of Lowrie, Barmes, Guzman, Renteria to make it back to me.
 
150JKaye
      Leader
      ID: 01372359
      Wed, Mar 25, 2009, 23:57
LOL Species at round 14. For what it's worth, I like that pick! He'll
be the closer by mid year.
 
153holt
      ID: 4410182818
      Thu, Mar 26, 2009, 00:57
I prob would have taken Ray rd 14 if he had still been there.
 
160JKaye
      Leader
      ID: 01372359
      Thu, Mar 26, 2009, 22:48
Not a big deal but the rd 9-16 thread is in rd 18...
 
177Uptown Bombers
      Donor
      ID: 035616416
      Fri, Mar 27, 2009, 05:45
My queue is set for round 21. I will be without access until @ 7pm. If there are still names in my queue, feel free to use it for round 22 as well.
 
178Bags@work
      ID: 31442714
      Fri, Mar 27, 2009, 08:24
queue is set the next few rounds.
 
193Da Bomb
      Donor
      ID: 487112814
      Sat, Mar 28, 2009, 01:37
holt: I'm pretty sure DaBomb knew I was going to take Carpenter at 14.15.

That's pretty funny. To be honest if I had to guess who you'd take at that spot it would be Carpenter. I knew you had a bit of a mancrush after taking him in the 11th round of Dirty Dozen. Regardless, I would have taken him anyway as I thought he was the best player on the board.

 
194holt
      ID: 4410182818
      Sat, Mar 28, 2009, 04:34
lol - well I'm rooting for Carpenter all the way. i just hope your ribc team stinks enough that he can't help you much.
 
217Uptown Bombers
      Donor
      ID: 035616416
      Sun, Mar 29, 2009, 22:49
Dave, if it's of any significance, I would have drafted Scutaro with my last pick, just before you.
 
218Dave R
      SuperDude
      ID: 3010361110
      Sun, Mar 29, 2009, 23:19
I knew that ;)
 
219Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Mar 29, 2009, 23:31
Just post the rest of your rationales here, and I'll copy them over in order after the draft ends.

 
224Bash Brothers
      ID: 3729188
      Mon, Mar 30, 2009, 09:04
With my last pick, I am leaning toward drafting a player not even listed in Kafenatid. If so, what should I do?
 
225filthy
      ID: 388531216
      Mon, Mar 30, 2009, 11:29
Post who you really want to pick in here, and in kafenatid use Shaun Marcum as a placeholder(out for season).
 
227Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Mar 30, 2009, 12:06
[224-225] Correct. Marcum is a viable placeholder. Just post who you really want here.
 
228Bash Brothers
      ID: 3729188
      Mon, Mar 30, 2009, 12:15
Thanks for your kindly reply. I decided to go the other direction at the very last second.
 
231Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Mar 30, 2009, 13:29
(I'll put this in red so it stands out among the rationales)

I'll plan to input all of the draft picks into Yahoo later today. Once that is done, I'll activate the league. All undrafted players will be on waivers for 2 days, during which time you are also encouraged to check you roster to make sure I have entered your roster correctly.

Please continue to post the rest of your rationales here.
 
232coldwater coyotes
      ID: 451159910
      Mon, Mar 30, 2009, 13:41
Where is Species? I think I should wait on my pick?
 
233Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Mar 30, 2009, 14:01
Up to you. He's timed out in another draft as well.
 
234coldwater coyotes
      ID: 451159910
      Mon, Mar 30, 2009, 14:03
I will make my pick but in the unlikely event that Species wanted
him then we could adjust/trade later.
 
236Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Mon, Mar 30, 2009, 14:19
Sorry guys. Distracted and afk. No excuse. I appreciate the thoughts cc but a timeout is a timeout.
 
245Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Mar 31, 2009, 10:39
I had to make one placeholder substitution at Yahoo.

Chad Cordero is not yet listed. So I assigned Shaun Marcum to Bags' roster as a placeholder. As long as he keeps Marcum, he has rights to Cordero.