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| Posted by: Seattle Zen
- [301361318] Wed, Nov 02, 2016, 18:37
There was an effort to get a points Ottoneu league started this April but we may have waited too long to get people interested, so I am starting a thread now to let people know that I want to get a league going for 2017.
For those unfamiliar, Ottoneu is a type of dynasty keeper league run by Fangraphs. Here is a rah-rah story encouraging you to play. I have been interested for years but have never pulled the trigger.
I know that most of our leagues on this board are slow drafts, Ottoneu is an auction and a new league's auction can take 8 or more hours because each team has a 40 man roster. I think if we plan ahead and split the auction in half, conducting it over two days, we could pull it off without too much pain.
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| | | 1 | Fosten
ID: 4097314
Fri, Nov 04, 2016, 03:02
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Interested. Previous discussion located at New League Inquiry. Thanks for starting the new thread. More searchable!
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| | | 2 | taxman
ID: 371026520
Sat, Nov 05, 2016, 21:26
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interested
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| | | 3 | Artofmonk
ID: 1123288
Sun, Nov 06, 2016, 17:30
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Interested.
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| | | 4 | Kyle
Leader
ID: 052753312
Mon, Nov 07, 2016, 09:58
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I'm in
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| | | 5 | GoatLocker
ID: 375332422
Tue, Jan 03, 2017, 20:21
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Interested.
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| | | 6 | Tree
ID: 77532019
Thu, Jan 05, 2017, 08:48
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interested, but want to read more on it. it strikes me as a bigger variation of NBBL, which a few of the above currently play.
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| | | 7 | Wiggs
ID: 42142238
Fri, Jan 13, 2017, 17:25
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Interested
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| | | 8 | Fosten
ID: 4097314
Mon, Jan 23, 2017, 13:55
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12 teams would be needed to start this league. So far, looks like we have 8 managers, with 4 still needed.
Seattle Zen
Fosten
taxman
Artofmonk
Kyle
Goatlocker
Tree
Wiggs
Ottoneu offers 4 different scoring formats:
- Old School - Rotisserie-style 5x5 (AVG, HR, RBI, SB, R and W, SV, ERA, WHIP, K)
- ottoneu Classic - Rotisserie-style 4x4 sabermetric-hybrid (OBP, SLG, HR, R and ERA, WHIP, HR/9, K)
- FanGraphs Points - Points based on Linear Weights
- Hitting = AB -1.0, H 5.6, 2B 2.9, 3B 5.7, HR 9.4, BB 3.0, HBP 3.0, SB 1.9, CS -2.8
- Pitching = IP 7.4, K 2.0, H -2.6, BB -3.0, HBP -3.0, HR -12.3, SV 5.0, HOLDS 4.0
- SABR Points - Like FanGraphs points, but with FIP-based pitching scoring
- Hitting = AB -1.0, H 5.6, 2B 2.9, 3B 5.7, HR 9.4, BB 3.0, HBP 3.0, SB 1.9, CS -2.8
- Pitching = IP 5.0, K 2.0, BB -3.0, HBP -3.0, HR -13.0, SV 5.0, HOLDS 4.0
Team fees for ottoneu are $9.99 and includes no prizes. To upgrade to a prize pool league ($49.99 or $99.99 entry fee), ottoneu takes a $30 cut for Tier 1 and $130 for Tier 2. IMHO, if folks wanted to make this a prize league, seems like all that could be done separately. Thoughts?
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| | | 9 | Seattle Zen
ID: 301361318
Mon, Jan 23, 2017, 14:39
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I was envisioning a Fangraphs points league. I was hoping we would do the $10 league with no prizes, I'm in this for the competition, not the $.
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| | | 10 | Fosten
ID: 4097314
Mon, Jan 23, 2017, 14:58
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Agreed, SZ. I did SABR points last year, and Fangraphs points would be fun to try. Also, feel the same about prize pool, just happy to play.
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| | | 11 | artofmonk
ID: 480462716
Fri, Feb 03, 2017, 15:29
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I am fine with no prizes. Fangraphs scoring looks good.
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| | | 12 | thepwa
ID: 320482612
Tue, Feb 07, 2017, 13:00
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interested.
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| | | 13 | Seattle Zen
ID: 301361318
Thu, Feb 16, 2017, 18:17
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Fosten and I have discussed co-comishing this league and I would like to hear from those of you still interested in this FanGraphs points ottoneu league.
As I mentioned in the first post, the auction will probably take around 8 hours and I think it makes the most sense to split that into two days. I am on the West Coast and I imagine that we have people in other time zones. This can make a weekday evening draft time difficult. I am able to participate in a weekday draft starting as early as 5pm. That would then entail a 8-midnight draft time for the eastern zone.
What are your ideal times for drafting? If we can only agree upon doing it over a weekend, which weekend? I imagine all of us will have some other baseball draft on one weekend or more in March, myself included. I could not draft on March 18.
So, please answer the following questions as best you can. When we come to a consensus on a draft time, we can then post the league on the ottoneu website seeking the last few league members.
What Time Zone are you in?
Pacific
On week days, when are you available to dedicate four consecutive hours to an auction?
5pm to midnight
Which weekends are you able to dedicate four consecutive hours to an auction and when?
Feb. 25-26, March 4-5, 11-12, 25-26. From 7am to midnight.
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| | | 14 | Fosten
ID: 4097314
Thu, Feb 16, 2017, 22:23
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Time zone: Eastern
Weekday availability: Any
Weekend availability: Any
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| | | 15 | artofmonk
ID: 480462716
Fri, Feb 17, 2017, 11:08
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Time zone: Mountain
Week day availability: 9:30pm - 12:30am with a family it hard to give up 4 straight hours. I could give 2 hour stints much easier. If we go to 2 hrs. I could do 4:30 -12:30
Weekends: still hard to give up 4 hrs. Mar. 11-12, 17-18, 24-25. The time would depend on the weekend.
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| | | 16 | Tree
ID: 77532019
Fri, Feb 17, 2017, 13:16
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time zone: central
wednesday evenings are the best time for me to dedicate four hours to something. Fridays during the day - as it's my one office day - are also good, because why not spend four hours on a draft when i should be working.
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| | | 17 | GoatLocker
ID: 12101417
Fri, Feb 17, 2017, 17:47
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I've been out of pocket all week in Austin at a work meeting. I'll read all of this and dig deeper today and tomorrow and then answer on the draft question.
Still interested anyway we go.
Goat
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| | | 18 | Wiggs
ID: 42142238
Fri, Feb 17, 2017, 20:12
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I am definitely interested in the league but alittle hesitant because I am not sure I can set aside enough time for the draft. That's a big chunk of time I have never done a draft like this is it something that u need to be active the whole time it is it like an auction where if u aren't there u just miss out on a particular player?
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| | | 19 | Wiggs
ID: 42142238
Fri, Feb 17, 2017, 22:55
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I am definitely interested in the league but alittle hesitant because I am not sure I can set aside enough time for the draft. That's a big chunk of time I have never done a draft like this is it something that u need to be active the whole time it is it like an auction where if u aren't there u just miss out on a particular player?
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| | | 20 | Seattle Zen
ID: 301361318
Sat, Feb 18, 2017, 13:44
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Yes, Wiggs, it's an auction. If you step away from the computer, you would miss the opportunity to bid on the players on the block.
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| | | 21 | taxman
ID: 371026520
Mon, Feb 20, 2017, 10:46
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Time zone: Central
Weekday availability: Any
Weekend availability: Any
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| | | 22 | thepwa
ID: 320482612
Mon, Feb 20, 2017, 12:06
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Yes, interested in playing
Time Zone is East
Right now, days that are bad for drafting are Feb 22, 25, and March 1, 4 and 15-22. Most weeknights 6PM to midnight are fine for me as long as I have a reasonable amount of notice.
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| | | 23 | artofmonk
ID: 480462716
Tue, Feb 21, 2017, 10:39
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If we do 4 hour stints will we take a 15 minute break at some point. I just need some time to help put the kids to bed. I would prefer a week night and then a Saturday? I can be flexible with my time.
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| | | 24 | thepwa
ID: 320482612
Wed, Feb 22, 2017, 09:27
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The evening of March 12 just became bad for me.
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| | | 25 | Jordanski
ID: 181161414
Wed, Feb 22, 2017, 14:10
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Greetings. I'm interested in joining this league.
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| | | 26 | Seattle Zen
ID: 301361318
Wed, Feb 22, 2017, 14:45
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So, Wiggs, Jordanski, Kyle and Goatlocker need to chime in on the questions asked in post 13. Fosten and I are getting close to making an announcement of the dates and time of the auction.
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| | | 27 | GoatLocker
ID: 12101417
Thu, Feb 23, 2017, 09:55
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I thought I answered this.
Time zone: Pacific
Weekday availability: Really tough, but can try to work 4 hours in Evening other than Mon / Wed
Weekend availability: Feb. 25-26, March 4-5, 11-12
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| | | 28 | Wiggs
ID: 42142238
Thu, Feb 23, 2017, 11:57
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Time Zone. Eastern
Availability later in evening any day but Thursday prefer weekdays
Weekends shotty but will try to make it work.
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| | | 29 | Fosten
ID: 4097314
Sat, Feb 25, 2017, 13:46
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Latest sign-ups (10/12)
Seattle Zen
Fosten
taxman
Artofmonk
Kyle
Goatlocker
Tree
Wiggs
thepwa
Jordanski
2 managers needed.
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| | | 30 | Seattle Zen
ID: 1610533022
Sat, Feb 25, 2017, 17:22
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Guys - Thanks those of you who answered the auction questions. We are unable to schedule this auction without stepping on at least one of y'alls toes.
We are grateful that you are willing to split this over two weeknights. We propose holding the auction on Tuesday, March 28 8pm to midnight eastern and Weds., March 29 8pm to midnight.
Can the ten people above confirm they can attend this auction?
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| | | 31 | taxman
ID: 371026520
Sat, Feb 25, 2017, 18:12
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yes .. I'm available
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| | | 32 | Wiggs
ID: 42142238
Sat, Feb 25, 2017, 22:35
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I should be good to go
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| | | 33 | GoatLocker
ID: 12101417
Sun, Feb 26, 2017, 17:48
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OK, right now I'm good to go on both of those dates.
Headed to Vegas the 31st, so should be no conflict there.
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| | | 34 | thepwa
ID: 320482612
Mon, Feb 27, 2017, 15:54
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I should be fine for either of those days.
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| | | 35 | Jordanski
ID: 181161414
Mon, Feb 27, 2017, 16:29
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I'm fine with those days.
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| | | 36 | artofmonk
ID: 480462716
Mon, Feb 27, 2017, 17:52
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I can make those days work. The 29th might be iffy for me, but I will find someone to cover for me. Where do we hold the auction draft? fangraphs?
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| | | 37 | Seattle Zen
ID: 301361318
Mon, Feb 27, 2017, 18:28
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That makes 8 confirmations, this is great.
Tree said he would check in tonight. I noticed that Kyle has not said anything in this thread since his initial remark back in November. Does anyone know how to reach him?
We still have spots open in this league, so if you are lurking out there, now's the time to jump in.
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| | | 38 | Tree
ID: 77532019
Tue, Feb 28, 2017, 10:51
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hey folks..i'm sorry to say i can't commit to a draft of this type and time. for me, it's just too many consecutive hours and evenings. sorry for the late notice. :/
the league intrigues me, and maybe one day, but unfortunately now is not that day.
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| | | 39 | Jordan Rodgers
ID: 71512716
Tue, Feb 28, 2017, 18:15
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I'm good to go for 3/28 & 3/29.
Eastern Time Zone here.
Let me know if you need anything else.
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| | | 40 | artofmonk
ID: 26241214
Thu, Mar 02, 2017, 16:05
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I am excited by this league. As I am looking at things, I need more details.
40 man roster with $400 budget. My understanding the $400 is for the season as well for any FA pickups. Is this correct.
If you drop a player, and the player passes through waivers, 50% of his salary, rounding up, counts against his previous team's salary cap as a cap penalty, until he is claimed by another team or until the end of the current season. Any bids for him as a free agent must be at least 50% of his previous salary.
roster-A team's starting lineup consists of one slot at each infield position (catcher, first base, second base, third base, and shortstop), five outfielder slot, one additional middle infielder (second base or shortstop) slot, one additional hitter from any position (utility slot), five starting pitcher slots, and five relief pitcher slots. NO CI position.
Just trying to read the rules and understand them. Pointing out some of the differences.
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| | | 41 | Nerfherders
ID: 33543714
Thu, Mar 02, 2017, 17:10
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This intrigues me. It is very similar to the contract keeper league I've been running for the last 15 years, which Art is in, and a couple of other managers here have been in.
All of that being said, It's hard for me to pull the trigger on a 5th league. If you guys are still having trouble filling the last slots, say after another week, I'll do it.
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| | | 42 | Seattle Zen
ID: 301361318
Thu, Mar 02, 2017, 18:43
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arttofmonk - I had not noticed the lack of a CI, thanks for pointing that out. I have read that even though you only get 162 games played for catchers, there are two catcher slots, so you can get the stats from two backstops if they are both in your lineup and playing that night. Seriously increases your chances of getting all 162 games filled, I love that idea.
Nerf - We would love to have you. Can you make the 3/28 & 3/29 from 8pm to midnight Eastern times?
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| | | 43 | mailedfoot
ID: 531322718
Thu, Mar 02, 2017, 22:41
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I will play if you still have a spot open
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| | | 44 | Seattle Zen
ID: 2229222
Thu, Mar 02, 2017, 23:12
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We do, mailedfoot. The auction will take place 3/28 & 3/29 from 8pm to midnight Eastern. If that works for you, you're in.
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| | | 45 | mailedfoot
ID: 27912109
Fri, Mar 03, 2017, 08:24
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I'm good for 3/28 and 3/29
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| | | 46 | Tim
ID: 511431310
Fri, Mar 03, 2017, 14:14
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interested
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| | | 47 | Tim
ID: 511431310
Fri, Mar 03, 2017, 16:15
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eastern time zone the draft date proposed works for me
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| | | 49 | Fosten
ID: 4097314
Fri, Mar 03, 2017, 19:06
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Latest sign-ups (11/12):
Seattle Zen
Fosten
taxman
Artofmonk
Kyle
Goatlocker
Wiggs
thepwa
Jordanski
mailedfoot
Tim
On standby (1/12):
Nerfherders (Be great to have ya!)
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| | | 50 | Seattle Zen
ID: 2250318
Fri, Mar 03, 2017, 19:53
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Because Kyle hasn't posted since November, I don't think we can count on him.
So... we still have space!
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| | | 51 | GoatLocker
ID: 12101417
Fri, Mar 03, 2017, 20:19
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More I read more questions I come up with.
Do we know which of the four scoring options we are going to use.
I did get signed into fangraphs.
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| | | 52 | Fosten
ID: 4097314
Fri, Mar 03, 2017, 21:06
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Goatlocker, seems like we were leaning towards Fangraphs Points. Any questions, ask away, I played last year and have some limited experience to guide with.
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| | | 53 | GoatLocker
ID: 12101417
Sat, Mar 04, 2017, 13:54
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I'm sure a lot of you have my email buried somewhwere but here it is for all to make things easier for all.
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| | | 54 | GoatLocker
ID: 12101417
Sat, Mar 04, 2017, 15:29
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Thanks Fosten. Sounds Good.
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| | | 55 | Fosten
ID: 4097314
Sun, Mar 05, 2017, 13:34
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Does anybody have suggestions for a fun and wacky league name? We could always go with something standard like "Rotoguru Ottoneu League" or "Gurupie Ottoneu League." However, future leagues may curse us for generic copyleft.
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| | | 56 | GoatLocker
ID: 12101417
Sun, Mar 05, 2017, 15:56
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Always could just go with "ROTOGURU GURUPIES"
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| | | 57 | taxman
ID: 371026520
Mon, Mar 06, 2017, 09:10
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Gurupies Ottoneu League Fangraphs .. thus .. GOLF
OR
RotoGuru Ottoneu Fangraphs League .. thus .. ROFL
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| | | 58 | artofmonk
ID: 26241214
Mon, Mar 06, 2017, 10:43
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I like GOLF
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| | | 59 | Kyle on cell
ID: 34839412
Mon, Mar 06, 2017, 12:26
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Hey guys sorry for the delay in my response. I'm in And here's my details
Time zone: Central (Chicago)
Times available: Any
Days available: any but prefer to avoid Monday nights.
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| | | 60 | Jordanski
ID: 181161414
Mon, Mar 06, 2017, 22:36
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ROFL!
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| | | 61 | Nerfherders
ID: 33543714
Thu, Mar 09, 2017, 19:26
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Did you guys find all the managers you need?
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| | | 62 | Seattle Zen
ID: 301361318
Thu, Mar 09, 2017, 19:36
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We just happen to be one short, Nerf...
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| | | 63 | Nerfherders
ID: 2211442615
Fri, Mar 10, 2017, 13:52
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I'm in then. A promise is a promise. :)
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| | | 64 | Fosten
ID: 4097314
Fri, Mar 10, 2017, 16:49
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Awesome Nerfherders! Now that we've got our 12 managers, I'll be sending out invites this weekend. Stay tuned...
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| | | 65 | Fosten
ID: 4097314
Sat, Mar 11, 2017, 19:50
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Hey folks, after reviewing the off-season arbitration options, please vote below for either Allocations or Vote Off.
This annual adjustment of salaries or players, is typically between mid-October and mid-November.
From the Ottoneu Rules page... d. In the interest of maintaining competitive balance, there are two distinct arbitration options.
i. Allocations
a. The allocation system gives a $25 budget to each team in the league.
b. The team must allocate this budget towards players on other teams.
c. Each team must allocate at least one dollar to every other team, and no team can allocate more than $3 to any other team.
d. At the end of the allocation period, all players have their salary increased by the amount allocated towards them.
e. Allocations take place after the initial offseason salary increase, so any allocations will be in addition to the $1 or $2 increase each player gets at the end of the season.
f. If a team does not allocate at least one dollar to every other team, none of their allocations will count and it will be as if they did not participate at all.
g. If a team does not allocate all $25, none of their allocations will count and it will be as if they did not participate at all.
ii. Vote Off
a. The vote-off system gives each team in the league the ability to vote on a player on each other team.
b. The player that receives the most votes collectively on each team is turned into a restricted free agent that can be bid on by other teams during the auction draft.
c. In the case of a tie, the standings of all the relevant voting teams is examined. Whichever player has the team with the worst standings voting for them is the restricted free agent.
d. The team they were voted off from will get an automatic $5 discount towards that player, so if they get the player back, they will get the player for $5 under what they bid.
e. Players who have been voted into restricted free agency cannot be traded.
f. Players who have been voted into restriced free agency will not appear as free agents on the site.
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| | | 66 | Wiggs
ID: 42142238
Sat, Mar 11, 2017, 20:10
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I am not sure what is happening. I registered for the league but it's not showing up as being in the league. Do I need a league password or my password to join
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| | | 67 | Seattle Zen
ID: 142171119
Sat, Mar 11, 2017, 20:17
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I vote allocations
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| | | 68 | Fosten
ID: 4097314
Sat, Mar 11, 2017, 20:28
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Wiggs: Hmmm, not seeing you. I've just sent an email with the league password, in case it wasn't included in the invite. Hope this helps.
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| | | 70 | Fosten
ID: 4097314
Sat, Mar 11, 2017, 20:31
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taxman: Thanks for the naming suggestions! In the spirit of fun and wacky, I went with ROFL - RotoGuru Ottoneu FanGraphs League.
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| | | 71 | Nerfherders
ID: 2211442615
Sun, Mar 12, 2017, 19:50
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Allocations seems to be the most simple of those options.
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| | | 72 | mailedfoot
ID: 531322718
Sun, Mar 12, 2017, 20:12
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Allocations
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| | | 73 | taxman
ID: 371026520
Sun, Mar 12, 2017, 21:34
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Allocations
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| | | 74 | GoatLocker
ID: 12101417
Mon, Mar 13, 2017, 00:51
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Allocations.
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| | | 75 | DHamm6500
ID: 26245819
Mon, Mar 13, 2017, 07:54
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Allocations
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| | | 76 | artofmonk
ID: 26241214
Mon, Mar 13, 2017, 11:59
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allocations
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| | | 77 | Fosten
ID: 4097314
Mon, Mar 13, 2017, 12:13
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By majority vote, allocation arbitration has passed, and has been selected as a league setting. Thanks all for your input.
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| | | 78 | Nschip
ID: 412511816
Sat, Mar 18, 2017, 17:51
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I see on the Ottoneu site that there is one space left. I'd like to join - if I can.
Thanks,
N
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| | | 79 | artofmonk
ID: 572301411
Fri, Mar 24, 2017, 12:12
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so who needs to still register for the league? Is it Nerf?
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| | | 80 | Nerfherders
ID: 2211442615
Sat, Mar 25, 2017, 14:00
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I thought I had.
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| | | 81 | Nerfherders
ID: 2211442615
Sat, Mar 25, 2017, 14:02
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Yeah, I just didnt change my name. It's not me!
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| | | 82 | Fosten
ID: 4097314
Sat, Mar 25, 2017, 19:23
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Hey folks, Tim is the missing manager. I contacted him and he said he will register tomorrow. Fingers crossed.
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| | | 83 | Wiggs
ID: 42142238
Mon, Mar 27, 2017, 11:44
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Good morning guys. I have been preparing a bit over the weekend for this draft
Couple things I came up with
Does the draft take place right through Ottoneu site?
Did we decide if we will be using a corner infielder?
Do we need to have a certain number of prospects? All the sites I have read suggest a number of prospects per team
Do we have a list of the scoring somewhere?
Thanks so much. Really excited to do this league
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| | | 84 | artofmonk
ID: 252332710
Mon, Mar 27, 2017, 11:48
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Nothing like waiting until the last minute to register for a new league that requires a 8 hour auction draft.
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| | | 86 | Wiggs
ID: 42142238
Mon, Mar 27, 2017, 13:18
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Ok I saw that scoring but I didn't think it could be right. So there are no points for rbis or runs?
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| | | 87 | Seattle Zen
ID: 301361318
Mon, Mar 27, 2017, 13:28
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Yep, measures your hit tool, not your teammates' talent.
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| | | 88 | Brett
ID: 332452715
Mon, Mar 27, 2017, 16:52
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hey guys,
ottoneu still shows one open spot for the rotoguru league. would love to join, just send over the passwd.
New forum member, but long-time fantasy guru. Just had to cancel a private league and looking to move away from the traditional 5x5.
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| | | 89 | Nerfherders
ID: 33543714
Mon, Mar 27, 2017, 19:37
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I want to confirm: Draft starts tomorrow at 8pm EDT? Is there a promotion order?
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| | | 90 | Fosten
ID: 4097314
Mon, Mar 27, 2017, 22:38
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In ROFL news...- Draft takes place Tuesday (tomorrow) and Wednesday (the day after tomorrow) from 8pm EST - midnight.
- All 12 manager are now registered at ottoneu. Thanks to Nschip and Brett for posting their interest. Over the last week, another 7 people emailed asking about that last spot. I've made note of all 9 inquiries, in case we need replacements for next year. (Almost have enough for a second league!)
- Wiggs, draft is through the ottoneu site. There should be a link on the homepage tomorrow evening to access.
- All ottoneu leagues use the same roster format - A team's starting lineup consists of one slot at each infield position (catcher, first base, second base, third base, and shortstop), five outfielder slot, one additional middle infielder (second base or shortstop) slot, one additional hitter from any position (utility slot), five starting pitcher slots, and five relief pitcher slots.
- There are minor league spots in your lineup, but it has no different meaning than bench. There is a 60-day DL, which is useful only in the case of long-term injury.
- It may be a good idea for everyone to review https://ottoneu.fangraphs.com/rules and https://ottoneu.fangraphs.com/support
- Nerf, I can't recall how the nomination order works for first-year leagues. I've googled for answers, but found none. Perhaps its randomized, not sure.
This is both my and SZ's first time acting as commissioner for ottoneu, so it may take a couple minutes to get started, but things should be on autopilot from there. As always be friendly, try to show up a few minutes early, make some popcorn, and settle in for the night. Gonna be a long ride. Peace.
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| | | 91 | Wiggs
ID: 42142238
Mon, Mar 27, 2017, 22:54
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Thanks for the updates foster. Can't wait for this draft
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| | | 93 | Wiggs
ID: 42142238
Wed, Mar 29, 2017, 09:16
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How is everyone feeling this morning? I have to admit the 5am wake up was not fun. Especially since I didn't fall right asleep last night. Ready for another night of fun tonight.
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| | | 94 | Fosten
ID: 4097314
Wed, Mar 29, 2017, 11:10
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Wiggs, you've slept? I'm not sure how one does that 4 days before baseball season!
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| | | 95 | Seattle Zen
ID: 522152910
Wed, Mar 29, 2017, 11:15
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Man, that was an intense five hours. I, too, had problems getting to sleep. Ready for round two.
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| | | 96 | Nerfherders
ID: 33543714
Wed, Mar 29, 2017, 11:50
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I have to ask about the Eaton situation. I am assuming that Taxman is taking him for the $26? Is there any way to get the $16 back for the draft? How does that even work, even if it's after the draft?
I'm still kinda miffed about it, even though I know it wasn't intentional. IN order to get the whole draft screen to show up on my old 4:3 monitor I had to zoom out, so I had trouble reading the little print next to the players when they came up.
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| | | 97 | Nerfherders
ID: 33543714
Thu, Mar 30, 2017, 12:16
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The Eaton weirdness aside, that was a fun draft. I hit all my targets on the second day (Upton, Gausman, Murphy, Crawford), and probably had a bit more money left than I expected. We'll see how that plays out in the future.
How late did the draft go last night?
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| | | 98 | Seattle Zen
ID: 301361318
Thu, Mar 30, 2017, 12:34
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I don't know what to do about the Eaton situation, I haven't talked with Fosten about it.
The auction was great, Tuesday night was frantic, I had a difficult time keeping up. I was wrong when I thought the whole draft would take over eight hours. It took 5 hours to auction off the first 203 and less than 3 to finish up.
I took some time to come up with a plan for Weds. night and I accomplished what I wanted, it made the night much less fretful.
I want to thank everyone for participating. I've been interested in ottoneu for a few years, I am glad that we were able to get twelve active owners to commit. Best of luck to all.
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| | | 99 | Wiggs
ID: 42142238
Thu, Mar 30, 2017, 16:38
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As a manager in the league but not involved in the Adam eaton situation I believe u handled this the best possible way. Excellent job co commishes
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| | | 100 | Wiggs
ID: 42142238
Thu, Mar 30, 2017, 18:52
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As a manager in the league but not involved in the Adam eaton situation I believe u handled this the best possible way. Excellent job co commishes
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| | | 102 | Seattle Zen
ID: 301361318
Thu, Mar 30, 2017, 19:13
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Returning the $10 today is not an empty gesture, Taxman. Adam Eaton is a free agent today. You can use that $10 to bid on his services.
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| | | 103 | Nerfherders
ID: 33543714
Thu, Mar 30, 2017, 19:29
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I admit my mistake for missing the RP (For the record, the other Eaton hasn't been in the majors since 2009, so in my mind the mistake is on Fangraphs for having all of these old players in their database). It wasn't just me either. If I hadn't bid $16, wiggs IIRC would've gotten him for $15. And if it had been the real Eaton, at that point in the draft players were going way over budget, and I'd likely have been out at over $20.
So I miss the little tag, Taxman misses the entire chat box discussion during and afterwards. It's all good. It's telling all of us to pay more attention to what's happening. :)
I'm fine with the commishes' decision, but I would suggest in the future, if Fangraphs doesn't clean up their database, that a draft gets stopped immediately if an old or 'fake' player goes up for bid.
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| | | 105 | Seattle Zen
ID: 442183020
Thu, Mar 30, 2017, 21:18
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Fire away
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| | | 106 | Wiggs
ID: 42142238
Thu, Mar 30, 2017, 23:53
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Tax. I didn't mean to offend you in anyway with my comment. I guess I didn't see it from your side of not being able to use that 10 dollars for other guys. I apologize
Nerf. Don't think it was me who bid on eaton. I don't believe i bid on him at all.
Another possible solution. Can u just refund nerfs money for the fake eaton?
Fangraphs really needs to update the player pool. They charge 120 bucks per league and still have guys like old Adam eaton gary Sheffield vlad Guerrero among others. That is ridiculous for a site that charges that kind of money
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| | | 107 | Seattle Zen
ID: 51331723
Tue, Apr 18, 2017, 00:04
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Freddy Freeman tonight, one game, 43 points.
Jose Bautista, Russell Martin, Tommy Joseph, over two weeks, the whole season, 50 points combined...
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| | | 108 | mailedfoot
ID: 531322718
Sun, Apr 30, 2017, 09:45
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Zen, you are running away with this thing...slow down!
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| | | 109 | Seattle Zen
ID: 1610533022
Mon, May 01, 2017, 00:09
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Holy Cow, Mudville 9!
Anthony Rendon - 58.70 points
Matt Wieters - 37.6
Domingo Santana - 27
Adam Duval - 26.1
all on your bench today.
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| | | 110 | Nerfherders
ID: 33543714
Mon, May 01, 2017, 13:07
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I wish I had a bench that good. I've been struggling with injuries all season. As soon as I get one guy back, another goes down.
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| | | 111 | Nerfherders
ID: 2211442615
Fri, May 05, 2017, 17:26
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8 guys on the DL now. It's a good thing that I drafted for the future.
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| | | 112 | Nerfherders
ID: 2211442615
Sun, May 07, 2017, 13:40
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I've more than run out of guys now. 3 DL players in my starting lineup and lost a bid for my replacement OF. Sheesh.
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| | | 113 | Seattle Zen
ID: 301361318
Fri, May 26, 2017, 14:45
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I'm hoping that my lead isn't just a reflection that I have had the most innings pitched. Losing my favorite player in Freddie Freeman is upsetting. I knew he was due for a huge year, now do I cut him and get some money back or do I believe that he is a keeper at $38?
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| | | 114 | Nerfherders
ID: 33543714
Wed, May 31, 2017, 16:55
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I think for this league there is a balance between quality and quantity. You can't have great players and no backups and be way behind in IP and GP, meanwhile you also can't go way over on IP and start too many mediocre pitchers. I was starting everyone in April and quickly went way over projection on IP, so I cut back to 5 SP for May, and I'm still over. 1500 IP is not a hard number to reach with all the bench slots we have.
Right now I'm a bit behind in GP, because my entire bench has been on the DL most of the season. Santana getting OF elig. is huge because now I can play him, Reynolds, and Bour at the same time.
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| | | 115 | Seattle Zen
ID: 301361318
Tue, Jul 18, 2017, 14:27
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Today is the day that I do declare I will bounce back with huge numbers and start making my way back to first place!
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| | | 116 | Nerfherders
ID: 33543714
Thu, Aug 03, 2017, 13:49
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I think so far my overall impression of Ottoneu is good. My only issue is with acquiring FA's. The blind-bidding is good for long-term speculation picks, but not so good for acquiring instant replacements. If you lose you have to start over, and there is no recourse. This is especially difficult in circumstances where you simply need players because of loss of active players (injuries or demotions). At least in football when there is blind bidding there is an open FA acquisition period as well, so if you don't win your bids you can at least get warm bodies in the lineup.
I'd hate to be the team in the lead that suddenly loses, say, two RP's in a span of a couple of days (that's happened to me twice this year). Everyone knows that happened to you and could easily keep you from acquiring RP's for a good long time, at least a week.
It is what it is, of course. We can't change the settings. I'd prefer it to be open bidding. At least then we'd know we've been out-bid and can try someone else.
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| | | 117 | mailedfoot
ID: 531322718
Mon, Oct 02, 2017, 20:09
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Congratulations Mudville 9...great season
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| | | 118 | Seattle Zen
ID: 301361318
Tue, Oct 10, 2017, 12:54
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Sorry about the tardy congratulations, but great job Mudville 9. Looking at your roster, you didn't have the best auction, but it looks like you had the best in season management. And the monster points you left on your bench on May 1 didn't haunt you!
I enjoyed our first year, though if the amount of time and effort being a commissioner the first week of the league continued for the entire season... ;)
Hopefully I will take the lessons I learned and apply them to next season. Did we even have a single trade this year? Maybe this offseason we will be throwing players around like a Turkish bazaar.
I also hope that everyone will be back. There were a few squads that we not very active the second half of the season. If anyone wants out, speak up now so we can offer your squad to another gurupie.
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| | | 119 | Nerfherders
ID: 33543714
Tue, Oct 17, 2017, 16:50
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I have to say, doing the arbitration thing is amazingly satisfying. "You got Aaron Judge for $4? Take that! And that!"
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| | | 120 | Seattle Zen
ID: 301361318
Tue, Nov 07, 2017, 12:58
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Polite reminder to the six teams who have not done so, but we have just one more week to make your arbitration allocations.
If any of the six teams are not intending to come back for 2018, now is the time to speak up.
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| | | 121 | Fosten
ID: 4097314
Mon, Nov 13, 2017, 21:18
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Echoing the belated congratulations to Mudville. This is a challenging game and your persistence to the math payed off. Stupendous!
Echoing the reminder that Allocations are due November 14. I've sent an email to the 5 teams who have not spent their budget.
Echoing the roll call for 2018. The next deadline on the calendar is January 31 to declare keepers.
If anyone is not returning, it'd be helpful to have a new manager in place before the end of the year. Thanks to all.
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| | | 122 | GoatLocker
ID: 4211359
Tue, Dec 19, 2017, 10:49
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Ditto on the belated congrats.
Plan right now is to be back.
I do need to look at the calendar and try to sort through a few things.
Not sure when in August we will be getting back from Europe, so that could have an impact.
Wasn't quite as hands on as I needed to be, and hope to fix that.
Did enjoy the league, but had a hard time sorting through some of it.
GL
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| | | 123 | Nerfherders
ID: 33543714
Thu, Dec 21, 2017, 19:00
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What's the deadline for dropping and players and doing all of the pre-draft work? I'm seeing some managers have already dropped alot of players from their rosters. I'd prefer to wait until the Hot Stove season is over.
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| | | 124 | Fosten
ID: 4097314
Thu, Dec 21, 2017, 22:39
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Keeper deadline is January 31. Teams can begin dropping players anytime after November 14.
There is a link to the calendar in the navigation menu.
Auction Draft Day is TBD. I vote for Sunday, February 25 at 1pm EST. Any objections?
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| | | 125 | Nerfherders
ID: 33543714
Fri, Dec 22, 2017, 11:42
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That seems really, really early.
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| | | 126 | Fosten
ID: 4097314
Fri, Dec 22, 2017, 18:17
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As you can tell, I am eager for baseball to start! Pitchers and catchers report February 12th. Season opens March 29th (4 days earlier than last year). Since many of us participate in multiple leagues, I’d like to draft ROFL before RIBC and G20 get going, usually somewhere around March 12-13. Once keepers are declared January 31st, the player pool is set and ready to go. I have another ottoneu draft on February 18th, so was looking at either February 25th or March 4th. Thoughts?
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| | | 127 | Seattle Zen
ID: 1610533022
Sat, Dec 30, 2017, 13:07
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I'm not even mildly interested in a Feb. draft. I would estimate this year's draft wrapping up in three to four hours, we can all agree upon setting aside that much time on a March day, I trust.
The real question is who will end up with Adam Eaton this year :)
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| | | 128 | Nerfherders
ID: 2211442615
Sat, Dec 30, 2017, 13:42
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My guess is at least two managers! ;)
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| | | 129 | Jordan7361
ID: 5811393120
Sun, Dec 31, 2017, 21:40
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I'd be down with a late February or early March draft.
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| | | 130 | artofmonk
ID: 540141715
Wed, Jan 17, 2018, 16:14
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I guess we should do a check in to see who is really coming back. Everybody but taxman did the allocations. I also agree that Jan. 31 seems really early, we can do our draft in March.
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| | | 131 | Fosten
ID: 4097314
Wed, Jan 17, 2018, 17:44
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The January 31 keeper deadline is standard for all ottoneu leagues and cannot be changed.
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| | | 132 | Nerfherders
ID: 33543714
Thu, Jan 18, 2018, 12:46
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Wow, okay. So we have to drop all of our non-keepers before this deadline, or they are keepers?
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