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Subject: Gurupie 20 - 2019 Regular Season Discussion


  Posted by: Species - SuperDude [07724916] Sun, Mar 24, 2019, 12:23

The 2019 regular season is ready to go! A hearty thank you to the league for your attention, patience and diligence during the offseason, during our keeper process, during the Prospect Draft and ultimate in our just completed Supplemental Draft.

It has been the most active offseason in league history, in terms of adjustments to our rules, indoctrinating two new managers and by far the most active trading time ever. I am very proud to be a part of this league and there is little doubt it is more vibrant than ever.

Some league business as we await Opening Day on March 28th:

1) With the Supplemental Draft now complete, we are doing a manual waiver process. Please see the next post for details.

2) I need managers to review the proposed wording of the new prospect rules. All input and suggestions welcomed. I know in my mind exactly how it is all supposed to work. Thank you Fosten for offering up the draft language.

3) Keep in mind both 2020 and 2021 Prospect and Supplemental draft picks are now available for trade.

4) Rule changes and suggestions are always welcomed. We might all need a few weeks to come back to earth from all of our drafts across fantasy baseball to really pay attention. But I know there are some suggestions out there that will need to be discussed.

Best of luck to all teams!! I will be authoring a bit of a league preview.......would love to hear from other managers who they feel the contenders, pretenders and rebuilders will be this year.

 
1Species
      SuperDude
      ID: 07724916
      Sun, Mar 24, 2019, 12:50
2019 Initial Waiver Process:

Given our workaround to capture the regular season games in Japan, we do not have any way to place all of the undrafted players onto waivers. As such, Guru has graciously volunteered to act as a manual processor of waivers.

Waiver Order
1. Greggo
2. mjd
3. Tree
4. Lyman
5. Thumper
6. slizz
7. darkside
8. Khahan
9. Nerfherders
10. Fosten
11. youngroman
12. Great One
13. Species
14. ttucowboy
15. bmd
16. Tosh
17. blue hen
18. WG
19. Meatwads
20. Guru

You may notice that the waiver order does NOT take into account demerits. Demerits only specifically counted for draft / lottery position and do not apply to waivers.

Waiver period:
Our league settings indicate a ONE day waiver period. As such, I am going to start waivers at 3:00pm ET today, Sunday March 24th. Waivers will end at 3:00pm ET Monday March 25th.

Making claims:
Send your claims via email to Guru at davehall@rotoguru2.com

- you must specify who you pick up AND who you drop
- you may make multiple claims
- you must be specific in making multiple claims - i.e. it is ok to say "Claim Player x and player y. But if I get Player x, cancel my claim on player y." -- stuff like that.

The claim process is linear. For example, assuming Greggo makes a claim, he drops to #20 in priority. Claims continue down the priority list. If Greggo sits at claim priority #15 and has made a second successful claim, he again goes back down to #20 until all claims are complete.

Settling claims:
At the end of the waiver period, as soon as reasonably possible, Guru will post all of the successful claims. It is then up to each individual manager to make the pickups and drops from their successful claims. The released players go on waivers and can then be considered for claim through the normal ESPN site's waiver process.

Beginning of regular free agency:
Unrestricted use of the free agency pool may begin on Monday March 25th at 9:00pm ET. There has to be some moment that the free-for-all begins, so I am choosing 9:00pm ET Monday. That gives Guru some time to process the manual claims as well as to have managers pick up the players from their successful waiver claims. NOTE: if a manager makes a successful waiver claim but fails to pick up the player when unrestricted free agency begins, the team who made a successful waiver claim retains the rights to that player.

Please post here if you have any questions.
 
2Lyman
      ID: 48842210
      Sun, Mar 24, 2019, 23:21
I'm just one of the new guys here, so I haven't seen the in-season managerial chops of anyone here, aside from Blue Hen (my gateway into the league). But in doing a quick scan down the rosters of each team here, I found the following five as the deepest and - in my March 24 opinion - most likely vying for a title - Munson Mobsters, Blue Hen, Species, Beastimiked and Bambino. That's not to take away anything from many other teams here, as there are others who seem primed to make a lot of noise with one or two breaks in the right direction. Regardless, looking forward to my first season in G20 and I wish the whole lot of you a whole lot of luck! Lyman
 
3Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Mar 25, 2019, 14:35
I notice that the list of waiver priorities at ESPN is slightly different than what Species lists above.
Youngroman and GO are switched, and Blue Hen and Tosh are switched.

However, the list on ESPN seems to correspond to last year's standings. So is the list in post 1 incorrect?
 
4Slizz
      ID: 29614321
      Mon, Mar 25, 2019, 15:22
WG - another snub to add to your list!
 
5Species
      SuperDude
      ID: 07724916
      Mon, Mar 25, 2019, 16:04
3: The list in Post 1 is based upon the Standings immediately after the year was finalized. You can see that in our Regular Season thread last year.

Then, strangely, after some changes (and I am trying for the life of me to remember what they were) the standings changed after the fact. I don't know whether it was a post-end-of-the-season trade or roster adjustment or other reason (the play-in game for the wild card?!?), but for an unexplained reason they changed. I made the decision to use the standings immediately after the last day of the season as our Official 2018 Standings.
 
6Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Mar 25, 2019, 17:42
No waiver claims were submitted. So my job is done.
 
7Species
      ID: 351051122
      Mon, Mar 25, 2019, 19:15
6: Great. That was easy.

However, free agent pickups are still forbidden until 9:00pm ET per my original instructions. Teams relied upon that in the beginning, so even though there are no waivers to process, FA claims cannot start until 9:00pm ET tonight.

Thanks.
 
8Nerfherders
      ID: 33543714
      Mon, Mar 25, 2019, 19:22
Thanks for working around the process so that we could get our keepers those extra games last week!
 
9Species
      SuperDude
      ID: 07724916
      Mon, Mar 25, 2019, 19:59
youngroman jumped the gun and his FA pickup has been nullified.

Please wait until 9:00pm ET to process any free agent pickups. After that, it is a free-for-all system through ESPN as normal.

Thanks.
 
10Blue hen
      ID: 410452818
      Mon, Mar 25, 2019, 23:13
Lyman with 4 moves already! My title is in danger.

I think the biggest contenders are Species, Meatwads, WG, and Thumper. Interestingly, Meat and WG used a ton of draft capital to get great keepers, and it showed in the draft. Both are great managers and I expect to see several of those late picks outperform earlier ones. To wit, Hunter Strickland already has two saves. This year, all of the contenders have warts, so we’re going to need some great in-season managing. And I can’t wait to see how the DL slots work out.
 
12Species
      SuperDude
      ID: 07724916
      Tue, Mar 26, 2019, 19:50
I was going to write up a big preview, but some fire drills at work have nullified all of the bandwidth needed to do so.

blue hen just said it well. There are a handful of potential contenders - perhaps 6 or 7 of them - but they all have some weak spots so strong in-season management (and a bit of luck!) is going to be HUGE in determining the winner.

Best of luck to all.
 
13Tree
      ID: 217372011
      Tue, Mar 26, 2019, 22:31
I'd like to thank each and every one of my three 10th keepers for performing so well during spring training, they're beginning the season in the minors... Grrrr
 
14 Gregg Curry
      ID: 38855205
      Wed, Mar 27, 2019, 04:51
Haha. Tree's luck sounds like my typical luck.
 
15 Gregg Curry
      ID: 38855205
      Wed, Mar 27, 2019, 04:57
But, with that said, I wish better luck than typical Tree/GreggoRoman luck to all of you this year. I feel certain that amazing day'to-day managing skill will br the difference in winning and second/third place. So, again, good luck. From the bottom of the barrel, I say: don't forget me as a trade partner.
 
16 Gregg Curry
      ID: 38855205
      Wed, Mar 27, 2019, 04:57
But, with that said, I wish better luck than typical Tree/GreggoRoman luck to all of you this year. I feel certain that amazing day'to-day managing skill will br the difference in winning and second/third place. So, again, good luck. From the bottom of the barrel, I say: don't forget me as a trade partner.
 
17ttucowboy
      ID: 172302717
      Wed, Mar 27, 2019, 18:39
RotoGuru Reader recently had a chance to catch up with Pete aka ttucowboy to get his thoughts about the upcoming season. Here’s the interview:
.
RR: First off, thanks Pete for taking the time to speak with us. Are there any opening remarks you’d like to make?
TTU: Thanks for having me. The team is excited about starting the season. They’ve worked really hard all offseason, have bought into our win-now culture and are ready to prove the naysayers wrong.

RR: Speaking of naysayers, how does your team handle getting practically no respect coming into the season?
TTU: For me as the manager, it’s great because the team is already fired up. We all have a chip on our shoulder and are ready to get after it. Plenty of bulletin board material out there which doesn’t hurt when serving as a motivator.

RR: What are your thoughts on your team heading into the season?
TTU: I’m pleased with where we are at heading into the season. Our hitting is top notch and our pitching has top notch upside.

Ray, Gray and Glasgow have worked hard on improving their consistency in the offseason. They know the goal is to stack quality starts and let their filthy stuff naturally lead to strikeouts instead of trying to force it. Corbin had a great year for us last year and we are looking forward to a repeat of that this year. Our 5th starter, Colin McHugh, has ace stuff and we’re looking forward to his first major league season as a starting pitcher.

Looking at our bullpen, we are loaded with guys who have nasty good stuff and are in solid positions to get save opportunities. Kirby Yates is our #1 closer and he sets the tone for the rest of the bullpen. We’re also excited to see Brasier, Rosenthal, Ottavino come in and throw gas...and look forward bringing Morrow and Jeffress into the mix by late April or early May.

The bread and butter of our team is our hitting. We’re led by former MVPs Giancarlo Stanton and Kris Bryant. Trevor Story exploded last year and we expect him to contend for NL MVP this year. Haniger is often overlooked, but not in our clubhouse. We’re glad to have his bat in our lineup. Dozier has also been affectionately dubbed as Bounce Back Brian. We weren’t expecting Miggy to slide to us in the 1st round of the Supplemental Draft so that was a welcome surprise. Also very excited to add Desmond (combo speed/power calling Coors home), Christin Stewart (Carlos Santana 2.0) and Beef in the draft. Don’t sleep on our sleeper bats either as Guzman and Duggar have had quality at bats for us this spring.

RR: Speaking of the draft(s), what was your plan for each draft and were you able to execute your plan?
TTU: The plan going into the Prospect Draft was to add an immediate impact bat. After researching and getting input from our Scouting Department, we highlited Christin Stewart as our guy. After debating on trading up, we decided to stand pat hoping he would make it to us. Once he did, it was a no brainer pick for us. He has power and patience at the plate which is a combination that should serve him well in the majors.

Going into the Supplemental Draft, our plan was to bolster the pitching staff. Plan shifted a bit in the 1st round as we had zero expectations Miggy would make it to us. We also were not expecting Desmond to be available in the 2nd round. After grabbing two quality bats, it was pitching pitching pitching and more pitching followed by some sleeper bats we really like. We’re very pleased with how both drafts went.

RR: Looking at other teams, who do you see as your biggest competition?
TTU: Hey look, this league is stacked. The quality of managers in this league is unlike anything you’ll see anywhere else. I’d put this group of folks up against any other group out there and feel confident we’d dominate. With that said, I don’t see anyone running away with the title this year. We’re anticipating a fun and competitive season.

RR: Thanks for taking the time to chat with us. Any final remarks you’d like to say?
TTU: No problem, I’ll close by saying our team knows we have a huge challenge and incredible opportunity ahead of us. We’re excited to meet that challenge head on and capitalize on the opportunity. With a little luck, which we preach as when preparation meets opportunity, we’ll be there at the end. Let’s play ball!
 
18Blue hen
      ID: 410452818
      Wed, Mar 27, 2019, 23:57
Pete’s been kept away from the title for a few years, but it’s good to see that his season preview game is still at peak level. Well done, my friend.

For the record, Miggy and Desmond is a great start to the draft. I still think Pete is going to need some pitching.
 
19Thumqer
      ID: 39230821
      Thu, Mar 28, 2019, 11:10
Happy Opening Day!
 
20Nerfherders
      ID: 33543714
      Thu, Mar 28, 2019, 12:42
ESPN is already off to a shaky start. It displays everyone as 'not in lineup' until they are, I guess. Plus, the pitcher start symbol is the same color as all the other text on the page, making it very hard to see at a glance.
 
21youngroman
      ID: 47232814
      Thu, Mar 28, 2019, 15:03
some of my observations:
- when picking up a player after the first games had started you land on todays lineup and not on tomorrows.
- they show "not in lineup" also if the lineups were already announced hours ago.
- when adding a player there is no Batter-vs-Pitcher data
- when looking at the standings, the default is "official season" and not "real-time". until now it was the other way round.
- daily leader page indicates that it is sorted by ab / ip but it is not.
- position limits are missing (like in hoops)

enough with the rants. lets enjoy some baseball. Cano takes Scherzer deep in his 1st AB for the Mets.
 
22Tree
      ID: 217372011
      Thu, Mar 28, 2019, 18:44
Three SP, 21 IP, 5 Hits, 1 run, and I might get a single win out of it.

Oy.
 
23GO
      ID: 14143919
      Fri, Mar 29, 2019, 15:21
8675309 posts in the offseason. 3 on Opening Day when the actual games are happening... priorities are crooked!

My OF would look much nicer with some guys back in there that i cut loose like Domingo, Dahl... and Conforto? Think i had him too.

 
24Khahan
      ID: 80441414
      Fri, Mar 29, 2019, 16:23
Conforto and Nola were the centerpieces of the Kershaw trade for me a few years ago. Unfortunately I didnt have the patience to sit thru Conforto's injury.
 
25Blue hen
      ID: 410452818
      Sat, Mar 30, 2019, 00:11
Looking to move Alex Verdugo. I got Gardner in the draft and also capably filled my Util slot, so Verdugo is extraneous. Also very young and talented. If you can afford to wait, Verdugo is for you.
 
26Nerfherders
      ID: 2211442615
      Sat, Mar 30, 2019, 12:31
Is it sad that I have to use Yahoo! to figure out who's playing in my ESPN league?

The only improvement they made was getting rid of the 'submit' button on entering lineups.
 
27Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sat, Mar 30, 2019, 12:44
Calling up prospect Francisco Mejia for the first time.
 
28GO
      ID: 14143919
      Sun, Mar 31, 2019, 12:10
Yes Nerf, i am literally checking Yahoo first and trying to remember. That sort of sums it up right there.

Mind you, many of these problems existed during NBA season. And they did little or no fixes. Doesn't bode well.
 
29GO
      ID: 14143919
      Sun, Mar 31, 2019, 23:00
Can we just stop the season now, I have comfortably locked up the #1 pick. Woo!
 
30Tree
      ID: 217372011
      Mon, Apr 01, 2019, 22:03
Oh, good. Lovely day.

A draft pick on the DL, and a keeper out for the season.

I'll race you to the bottom Great One!
 
31 Gregg Curry
      ID: 38855205
      Tue, Apr 02, 2019, 00:32
Hey guys, the bottom's all mind.
 
32 Gregg Curry
      ID: 38855205
      Tue, Apr 02, 2019, 00:33
Yo, Thumper, I think Alcantara is in bmd's minors and ineligible for pickup.
 
33Thumqer
      ID: 39230821
      Tue, Apr 02, 2019, 08:45
My bad! Thanks
 
34beastiemiked
      ID: 35282121
      Tue, Apr 02, 2019, 10:57
Calling up Tatis Jr for the first time.


 
35Nerfherders
      ID: 33543714
      Tue, Apr 02, 2019, 11:47
I'm just putting this here in case it never happens again.

1st Place!
 
36Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Apr 02, 2019, 19:57
I have the beginnings of a program that will pull in your roster from a ESPN league and show which players are in the starting lineup - and which are not.

The formatting is still simplistic, and I hope to eventually add some other info to the display as well (e.g., gametime, postponed, etc.), but so far it seems to do its basic job pretty well. I also hope to be able to incorporate a display of actual games played by slot at some point.

I currently have it set up for RIBC, G20, and RIBC-AAA. I can easily add RIBC-AA if someone can tell me the ESPN league ID for that league. (It is specified as part of the league URL.)

Here it is: http://dailybaseballdata.com/cgi-bin/rosterCheck.pl

Posted lineup data is updated every 10-15 minutes during the day. Even if ESPN gets it act together and posts starters, I have found in the past that my data is often available earlier than what was posted at ESPN (although not always).

Let me know what other data would be useful to include. For now, I'm showing all hitters (starters and bench) plus all pitchers on the bench. I figure this will easily point out any players in your lineup that are not starting, and any bench players that are.
 
37Lyman
      ID: 48842210
      Tue, Apr 02, 2019, 20:24
Wow! That's awesome, Guru. Thanks.
 
38 Gregg Curry
      ID: 38855205
      Tue, Apr 02, 2019, 20:40
Congrats Nerfherders. And thanks a lot Guru.
 
39Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Tue, Apr 02, 2019, 20:44
Guru that’s awesome. Thanks so much. Ch3cking the other link was going to be so tedious...
 
40GO
      ID: 112192620
      Tue, Apr 02, 2019, 23:18
GO HR count
Rowdy Tellez = 1
Arenado, Freeman, Devers, Castellanos, Profar = 0
 
41Species
      SuperDude
      ID: 07724916
      Wed, Apr 03, 2019, 10:22
Team Species saves count:

Kimbrel 0
Wade Davis 0
The traded-a-freakin-1st-p-pick for his ass Bradley 0
Shane Greene 3
Blake Parker 1
 
42Species
      SuperDude
      ID: 07724916
      Wed, Apr 03, 2019, 10:41
BTW - please be sure to check the prospect list when picking people up. The listing of prospects is now the "League Note" on the league page, so it is there for everyone's review.

Yes, believe it or not, Tosh still has Anthony Alford on his prospect list......so I removed him from Lyman's roster.

Great start Nerfherders!
 
43Nerfherders
      ID: 33543714
      Wed, Apr 03, 2019, 11:28
Only 25 weeks to go!

I found that I used Yahoo last year for starts because they would get their lineups posted way before ESPN did. It's kind of handy to have those early lineups when I'm switching catchers every other day and I have a tee time 40 minutes before games start.
 
44GO
      ID: 14143919
      Wed, Apr 03, 2019, 13:56
I enjoyed all the hullabaloo! over Archie. Was left wondering if I was missing something about him.


 
45Khahan
      ID: 80441414
      Wed, Apr 03, 2019, 14:27
Can't believe I'm saying this, but:
come on Matt Boyd, Ross Stripling and Marco Estrada. I need you to pick up Aaron Nola's slack in my pitching categories today!!!
 
46GO
      ID: 14143919
      Thu, Apr 04, 2019, 17:16
Anyone receiving the daily email reports this season? Mine have disappeared... unsure if thats another bug or if what.
 
47GO
      ID: 14143919
      Thu, Apr 04, 2019, 19:56
Apparently in order to receive the Daily Email Reports... you have to have the weekly Fantasy Newsletter toggled on. Makes total sense. WTF ESPN?!
 
48Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Fri, Apr 05, 2019, 10:04
Guru that’s awesome. Thanks so much. Ch3cking the other link was going to be so tedious...
 
49Species
      SuperDude
      ID: 07724916
      Fri, Apr 05, 2019, 12:39
Well, despite Shane Greene's Superman impression early on, at some point if Craig Kimbrel continues to sit on the sidelines (ironic as the bullpens of contenders such as Philadelphia, Chicago and others fall very short and Josh Hader can't pitch every day in Milwaukee) I am going to need to consider trading him.

Kimbrel is still a top 3 keeper closer in this league. He may sign in June after the draft, thus removing the draft pick forfeiture for the team that signs him. Can I wait?

If I can't, I would be interested in:

1) a lesser closer - one with a reasonable hold on their job but understandably less keeper value

2) a starting pitcher
 
50Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Fri, Apr 05, 2019, 15:43
[36] I made some significant enhancements to the rosterCheck program.

It now shows batting hand for hitters.
It now shows game times for all games.
It now shows opposing SP for each game (plus throwing hand)

There may be other tweaks introduced eventually, but I'm going to let it stand for now. If you use it, please let me know if you notice any glitches, and if you have any thoughts on formatting revisions and/or other features to add.


 
51ttucowboy
      ID: 172302717
      Fri, Apr 05, 2019, 19:16
RotoGuru Reader recently overheard Pete aka ttucowboy cussing his team out during a closed-door team meeting. We later reached out to Pete for comment and he said, “get the f out of my office.” Needless to say, Pete’s team is off to a tough start.
 
52beastiemiked
      ID: 35282121
      Fri, Apr 05, 2019, 21:14
Calling up Alcantara for the first time.
 
53GO
      ID: 14143919
      Sat, Apr 06, 2019, 21:53
But seriously... put your prop bets in. Which of my keepers will hit first 2019 HR? And how long will it take ANY of them to do so? I will take Arenado on Tuesday. 13 days into the full season.

GO HR count
Arenado, Freeman, Devers, Castellanos, Profar = ZERO HR
 
54 GreggoRomans
      ID: 47931312
      Sun, Apr 07, 2019, 04:45
@ GO: I'm taking Freeman on Sunday.
 
55GO
      ID: 112192620
      Sun, Apr 07, 2019, 10:50
lol.... lord I hope so. this is getting ridiculous.

Put me down for Hampson gets his batting AVG over .050 by the end of the week :)
 
56 Gregg Curry
      ID: 38855205
      Sun, Apr 07, 2019, 14:37
Haha. Good thing I am rebuilding. Can be patient re Hampson, who I am still high on. Domingingo Santana has been a stud so far. He looks good in his Roman toga. 😎
 
57Slizz
      ID: 53336714
      Sun, Apr 07, 2019, 15:37
Aaaaaaand Freeman gets his first HR! Greggo with the win. Congratulations to your free 1 year subscription to RotoGuru Reader...
 
58 Gregg Curry
      ID: 38855205
      Sun, Apr 07, 2019, 15:50
Thank you
 
59Khahan
      ID: 367431722
      Sun, Apr 07, 2019, 16:52
That is a nifty and useful program. thanks Guru.
 
60Nerfherders
      ID: 2211442615
      Sun, Apr 07, 2019, 21:00
I'm still in 1st? What are you guys doing? :P
 
61beastiemiked
      ID: 35282121
      Sun, Apr 07, 2019, 22:29
3 keepers on the DL. Wish I would’ve voted for more DL slots.
 
62GO
      ID: 112192620
      Mon, Apr 08, 2019, 00:15
Greggo hopefully also bought a lottery ticket today... in the words of Goldberg... who's next?

Domingo and Dahl would make my OF a lot more stable right now. Shame I had to move on last year.
 
63Species
      SuperDude
      ID: 07724916
      Mon, Apr 08, 2019, 13:13
60: Self-deprecation will not sway the fantasy gods. This sounds like trash talk and I expect some pitchers will get immediately torched! ;)

Great start Nerf! Bellinger is insane right now. Kike was a great pick, Cain off to a great start and your patience on Frazier may be rewarded for a while!

Your starters are dominant so far. Saves your only weakness, but with 170+ points, WHO CARES?
 
64Nerfherders
      ID: 33543714
      Mon, Apr 08, 2019, 16:28
It can't last, obviously, but having those picks in the middle rounds really helped bolster my lineup. I had a daring plan for MI and it's paying off so far. It also doesn't hurt that Bellinger is playing in another league right now. We shall see!

Oh yes, and never underestimate the Willians!
 
65Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Apr 08, 2019, 21:04
GP/IP limits are now tracked in rosterCheck.

Please check my work to be sure your team GP & IP data look correct.
 
66Thumqer
      ID: 39230821
      Tue, Apr 09, 2019, 09:47
Guru, I LOVE the GP/IP pace you put on there... it was such a pain to try and figure out on my own. Thank you so much!
 
67 Gregg Curry
      ID: 38855205
      Tue, Apr 09, 2019, 12:03
@Guru,
What Thumper said.
 
68Nerfherders
      ID: 33543714
      Tue, Apr 09, 2019, 13:55
Guru, thanks for the roster helper. That's awesome.
 
69Blue hen
      ID: 410452818
      Tue, Apr 09, 2019, 15:40
Dropped JD Davis by accident while dropping Cobb. Somebody please re-add.
 
70Species
      SuperDude
      ID: 07724916
      Tue, Apr 09, 2019, 16:05
69: The league will note that blue hen dropped two players while picking up one player. An unintentional mis-click.

I have added JD Davis back to his roster.
 
71Blue hen
      ID: 410452818
      Wed, Apr 10, 2019, 11:10
(Now dropped Davis for real- have at it)
 
72Tree
      ID: 77532019
      Wed, Apr 10, 2019, 15:25
that dude has had a number of roster shots this season already. twice for you, once for me, and i think once for someone else.
 
73GO
      ID: 14143919
      Thu, Apr 11, 2019, 21:28
I am looking for a simple swap for an OF. I have all levels of players available. Arenado, Devers, Rowdy, Difo...
 
74Species
      SuperDude
      ID: 07724916
      Fri, Apr 12, 2019, 12:30
I am interested in good starting pitchers.

I potentially have Craig Kimbrel and/or Nick Senzel to trade. I also have S-picks and P-picks to trade. I have all 5 of my 2020 and 2021 P-picks, for example.

There is a bit of a dichotomy right now, however, as both:

1) In a general sense, teams with slow starts are hesitant to pull the trigger on their season at the moment (which is reasonable).......

2) I am kind of waiting for Kimbrel and Senzel to get to the Major Leagues before pulling the trigger. There is not much sense in selling low.....

But anyone who considers trading a strong starting pitcher I hope will come see me before finalizing anything. Thanks!
 
75Tree
      ID: 217372011
      Sun, Apr 14, 2019, 21:34
Well, this has been a week.

I know it's early and weird stuff happens, but I think i dropped 50 points this week...
 
76 ttucowboy
      ID: 172302717
      Mon, Apr 15, 2019, 18:10
If anyone has a surplus of steals available, I have a need...a need for speed.
 
77Lyman
      ID: 48842210
      Mon, Apr 15, 2019, 20:28
Nerf, check your email.
 
78Thumqer
      ID: 39230821
      Tue, Apr 16, 2019, 08:21
👀
 
79GO
      ID: 14143919
      Tue, Apr 16, 2019, 08:53
Can someone else comfirm or test if they get the ESPN daily team email reports to their inbox?
 
80Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Apr 16, 2019, 11:55
Nope, I don't get daily emails, even though it's checked off in my team settings.
 
81Lyman
      ID: 48842210
      Tue, Apr 16, 2019, 17:28
Thumper, the eyeballs made me laugh out loud. Guess there is nothing to see, however, as Nerf didn't bother to even acknowledge my trade offer. (24 hours is long enough to wait, right?) Funny, he did the same thing back in November when I made him on offer. Note: A simple "Bollocks!" or "Piss off!" is totally sufficient if I make a trade offer not to your liking.

Anyhow, I am continuing the roster rebuild and publicly am making Chris Archer available in trade. Prior to last season, Archer pitched in the AL East and averaged 245 strikeouts over a 3-year stretch. He's in the NL Central now and seems to have regained his stuff under the tutelage of pitching guru Ray Searage. It's early, but he's on pace for 267 strikeouts in a 200-IP season and, as previously stated, has been a 245-K pitcher in 3-of-4 seasons now, so it's no fluke. I'm figuring those Scherzer-esque strikeout numbers might be useful to a contender. Archer faces the Giants on Sunday and figures to compile anywhere from 13-to-18 strikeouts (only half-joking!), so get him now so you can taste all those juicy morsels for yourself. He's an impact pitcher and I have no problem keeping him for 2020, so I'm seeking an impact youngster/prospect in return. But all offers are welcome. And I promise to at least respond to even the most egregious ones received.

 
82Lyman
      ID: 48842210
      Tue, Apr 16, 2019, 21:14
Nerf, I think I speak for us all when I say "Thanks for the response to my trade offer." Haha. Seriously, though, thanks!
 
83 GreggoRomans
      ID: 47931312
      Wed, Apr 17, 2019, 04:41
If anyone wants a catcher who plays a lot and can hit, I will trade Narvaez. So far, he has more ABs than any catcher other than Molina. He is tied for most runs by a catcher with 12, and trails only Sanchez, Contreras, and Grandal in HR. His propensity to get playing time and counting stats is high in his first time with a starting gig, and could help a contender who is sick of streaming daily turds at the position.
 
84beastiemiked
      ID: 481162721
      Wed, Apr 17, 2019, 12:44
Looking to trade one or both.

Tim Beckham SS/3b
Marcus Semien SS

Looking for future assets(prospect picks or Supp picks) or pitching.
 
85Slizz
      ID: 53336714
      Wed, Apr 17, 2019, 15:13
TRADE AGREEMENT

Slizz trades:
Adam Conley, RP, MIA
Prospect Vidal Brujan, IF, TB

Lyman Trades:
Chris Archer, SP, PIT

Lyman to confirm...
 
86Lyman
      ID: 5102078
      Wed, Apr 17, 2019, 16:37
Confirmation of Post 85 trade announcement.
 
87Lyman
      ID: 2910361920
      Wed, Apr 17, 2019, 22:42
I don't want to be "that guy." But since I'm not going to have a lot to brag about this season, I thought it would be fun to look ahead to 2021. I should, with a farm system and 10th keepers, be able to keep this collection together, making for a potentially magical lineup.

C Gary Sanchez
1B Alex Kirilloff
2B Vidal Brujan
SS Wander Franco
3B Yandy Diaz (loving this guy)
OF Michael Conforto
OF Jesse Winker
OF David Dahl
DH Nate Lowe

SP Luis Castillo
SP Brent Honeywell
SP Caleb Smith (a bit of a wild card still)

Alright, back to reality. 2019 is going to be a long season. With Archer gone, I might need to trade for an innings eater to avoid demerits. If at any point in time you find something useful on my roster whose name is not listed above, I'm open to offers for starting pitching. (Swanson and Ian Happ are not that cheap though. Voit might be available if you need a power hitting, high OBP 1B or DH and have expendable a pitcher who will not suck while eating innings and while also possessing resale value for a down-the-line trade.) Now, excuse me while I go back to obsessing about all my young Rays and the 2021 campaign. That OBP could push .380, no?
 
88ttucowboy
      ID: 172302717
      Wed, Apr 17, 2019, 23:02
Trade Announcement

ttucowboy trades:

2020 2nd Round Supplemental Pick

mjd trades:

Choo
2020 11th Round Supplemental Pick

Mjd to confirm on the pick exchange.
 
89 Gregg Curry
      ID: 38855205
      Thu, Apr 18, 2019, 01:57
Loving the post 87 Lyman. Looks nice.
 
90 Gregg Curry
      ID: 38855205
      Thu, Apr 18, 2019, 01:57
Loving the post 87 Lyman. Looks nice.
 
91mjd
      ID: 10221911
      Thu, Apr 18, 2019, 12:34
confirm 88
 
92 Gregg Curry
      ID: 38855205
      Fri, Apr 19, 2019, 00:41
Narvaez still on the block. Now has 15 R, 4 HR, 11 RBI, .350-something OBP sounds like a really good catcher to end headache-inducing streaming. Just saying.
 
93 Gregg Curry
      ID: 38855205
      Fri, Apr 19, 2019, 01:54
Fact-checking my last post , I realized I undersold the OBP: It is actually .381.
 
94Meatwads
      ID: 58014310
      Fri, Apr 19, 2019, 13:19
Meatwads calling up Touki Toussaint for the first time.
 
95Thumqer
      ID: 39230821
      Fri, Apr 19, 2019, 14:35
I have a couple young arms on the block. Looking for a decent SP or Bat; age doesn’t matter just would like proven success

Nick Margevicius - 3.76 xFIP and nearly a K per inning so far
Corbin Burnes - 3.75 xFIP, 24 K’s in 17 IP and 14.1% Swinging Strike. Otherwise bad results thus far but looks good under the hood. Keith Law picked him as a breakout guy 🤷🏼‍♂️

Ideally would like to pair both together but will review any offer. As usual I’ll move quickly
 
96GO
      ID: 112192620
      Sun, Apr 21, 2019, 23:17
ESPN is a hot mess... while Yahoo makes crazy amounts of advanced stats available on lineup page and free agent sorts lol...
 
97Khahan
      ID: 80441414
      Mon, Apr 22, 2019, 09:58
Ok, I give up. Where can I find games played and IP pace?
 
98ttucowboy
      ID: 172302717
      Mon, Apr 22, 2019, 10:03
97: ESPN inexplicably removed GP and IP pace. One of their many “upgrades.” I blame blue hen.

Anyway, Guru created an awesome tool to track. Link is in post 65.
 
99Species
      SuperDude
      ID: 07724916
      Mon, Apr 22, 2019, 18:05
Random comment........but I like the roster rules we implemented this offseason. The addition of the IL spots and the three separate SP spots have (at least to me) added nice flexibility.

It has been a crazy start to the season. SP stalwarts Scherzer, DeGrom and Sale are nowhere near the top 25 in the player rater, while names like Glasnow, Shoemaker (albeit out for the year now), Rodon, Hamels and Gant occupy lofty positions.

Nerfherders still holds onto a stout 20+ point lead, but behind him is a pelaton of 7 teams within 15 points of one another.

Best of luck to all.
 
100Khahan
      ID: 80441414
      Tue, Apr 23, 2019, 09:27
Dont forget the abysmal starts of Nola, Kluber, Carrasco, Noah Syndergaard, Walker Buehler and the injury to Snell.

This has been a horrible year for 'elite' starting pitchers.
 
101Meatwads
      ID: 43056268
      Tue, Apr 23, 2019, 12:20
Meatwads sending Touki Toussaint down for the first time. That was embarrassing. :)

(96) I agree with GO that Yahoo is better than ESPN at this stage. Much more user friendly. I would be in favor of switching in the winter.

For anyone who hasn't noticed, I seem to have a really competitive offense and the worst pitching staff in the league. I've been stuck in the middle of the pack, unable to gain or lose ground, which isn't a good sign this early. It's too early for me to throw in the towel, so I'm looking to add several pitchers.

All of my prospect and supplemental picks for this year or next are available. I'd also be willing to include some offense. If I'm not able to see the light at the end of the tunnel, I won't hesitate to pull the plug and start selling off.
 
102Khahan
      ID: 367431722
      Tue, Apr 23, 2019, 20:54
here's an interesting line for the day (yes I double checked, I have it set to stats for today only) for matthew boyd:
14.0 IP 6Hits 6ER 4BB 6K 2W 3.86era 0.71 whip

14 IP after a 9inning day game and 4.1 innings of the night game. And 2 wins already. His actual statline is half of that = 7 ip, 3 ER, 3k's etc. Has anybody else noticed this trend for double headers from espn?

 
103Lyman
      ID: 48842210
      Tue, Apr 23, 2019, 21:24
Yes, it had Chavis down for an 0-8 day. I thought, "There's no way." Of course, there wasn't, he went 0-4. There was a period of an hour or two late this afternoon when I was unable to open my team page. It would just go blank. Clicking refresh did not solve it. I could go to the free agent wire, but not the homepage or anybody's team page.
 
104Lyman
      ID: 48842210
      Tue, Apr 23, 2019, 21:24
Yes, it had Chavis down for an 0-8 day. I thought, "There's no way." Of course, there wasn't, he went 0-4. There was a period of an hour or two late this afternoon when I was unable to open my team page. It would just go blank. Clicking refresh did not solve it. I could go to the free agent wire, but not the homepage or anybody's team page.
 
105Khahan
      ID: 80441414
      Wed, Apr 24, 2019, 09:22
I need to move one of these guys as I constantly am wasting prime stats on the bench:

Matt Chapman: .417obp 7 hr 13runs 17rbi
Maikel Franco: .372 6hr 11runs 18 rbis
Stephen Piscotty: .349 obp 4hr 11 runs 14 rbis
Marcell Ozuna: .348 obp 8hr 19 runs 18 rbi 3 sb

I could really use a SS, some stolen bases or as always pitching. Prices vary but I'm not interested in has-beens or potential prospects. I'm looking for equal quality players to help me now.
 
106 Khahan
      ID: 80441414
      Wed, Apr 24, 2019, 09:33
Add Justin Smoak to the list of available sluggers:
Smoak: .430 obp 4hr 14 runs, 17 rbi.
He's a bit of an afterthought in many BA leagues, but in an obp league he takes a good step forward, learning how to talk walks about 2 years ago: 156 walks between 2017 and 2018 and on an even better pace this eyar.
 
107ttucowboy
      ID: 172302717
      Wed, Apr 24, 2019, 10:33
Sending Christin Stewart back down to the minors.
 
108mjd
      ID: 10221911
      Wed, Apr 24, 2019, 12:59
I'm for switching to Yahoo same day transactions next year, despite Guru's awesome workaround for ESPN.
 
109GO
      ID: 14143919
      Thu, Apr 25, 2019, 07:05
Was Yahoo unable to accommodate 20 teams? Was that the initial reasoning?
 
110 Gregg Curry
      ID: 38855205
      Thu, Apr 25, 2019, 16:33
Shane Bieber is available. For the record,I am very high on him as a rebuilding foundation piece, and would be very fine with keeping him.. If you are rich in offense, but need pitching. We could have a match. What I want is an equally valuable building block keeper hitter. Already in discussion with a couple of teams. No low-ball offers please.
 
111Nerfherders
      ID: 33543714
      Thu, Apr 25, 2019, 16:34
Trade Announcement:

Nerfherders gets Omar Narvaez

Greggo gets Willians Astudillo, Nerfherder's 2nd round prospect pick in 2020.
 
112 Gregg Curry
      ID: 38855205
      Thu, Apr 25, 2019, 16:36
Confirm
 
113Blue Hen
      ID: 410452818
      Thu, Apr 25, 2019, 16:43
Fwiw, Yahoo’s probable pitchers free agent page shows today’s game, not the correct game and opponent. That’s a bit of a deal breaker for me.
 
114Tree
      ID: 77532019
      Thu, Apr 25, 2019, 17:56
why don't we just drop IP and GP minimums, and stay with ESPN?

it's win win!

also, let's change the saves category to saves + holds. in a league this deep, that seems to make a ton of sense.
 
115Khahan
      ID: 367431722
      Thu, Apr 25, 2019, 22:23
Agree with Tree on the saves plus holds. But we just voted on that like 2 seasons ago so i wasn't going to push to bring it up again. But then again we have like 3-4 new managers so it may be worth discussing again. I vote for saves plus holds. ;)
 
116 Gregg Curry
      ID: 38855205
      Fri, Apr 26, 2019, 04:54
I also agree with Tree on saves plus holds as a category. Why? Because often the best relievers are not the closer (although, when talent wins out, they often become closers): Let's reward excellence, not mediocrity. I also agree with Tree re max/min limits on IP and Gp. Why? Although I realize you guys want to set up a league where no one can just "tank", you have actually set up a league that is top friendly. See next pist for my logic.
 
118 Gregg Curry
      ID: 38855205
      Fri, Apr 26, 2019, 05:12
While you don't want a team to "tank", you force that rebuilding team to stream to meet innings limits and games played rather than see talent emerge over time, and keep it rather than cut it when they don'tplay every day. You thereby force cutting players who might end up being "keepers" (who could accelerate the path to competitiveness) all for the relatively meaningless goal of reaching Ip/GP limits. Meanwhile, you also demean the value of drafting well by requiring contenders to keep up with the Joneses by streaming like mad dogs instead of staying with their original good choices. The down-home wisdom here? Let excellence rise to the top. Don't build in too many safeguards for bad decisions. Amen Tree.
 
120ttucowboy
      ID: 172302717
      Fri, Apr 26, 2019, 07:10
Put me down as someone who is against switching from saves to saves + holds. It would severely cheapen the value of closers. Let’s face it, some guys can mow hitters down until they are put in that 9th inning role. You have to have filthy stuff and mental toughness to be a successful closer. Why cheapen a category like that?

It would also eliminate an element of strategy and trading that I don’t see as beneficial. Teams that are rebuilding can trade closers to contenders for future value (most recent example is the flurry of activity we had surrounding that position before the season). If we make that switch, it all but eliminates an avenue for rebuilding teams to acquire future assets. Not only that, but contenders have to decide if they are going to go heavy in the draft on closers, use keeper slots on elite closers or try and acquire saves through FA.

Add it all up and you’re talking about severely cheapening a category and removing an element of strategy and activity from the league. Hard pass.
 
121Khahan
      ID: 80441414
      Fri, Apr 26, 2019, 10:30
calling up carter keiboom for the first time.
 
122Species
      SuperDude
      ID: 07724916
      Fri, Apr 26, 2019, 11:34
Rule changes: lots of new blood in recent years, so there is no problem in bringing up and discussing rule changes - even if they have been debated (or even voted upon) in recent years. Present your arguments and let's discuss them!


As a matter of context for new/newer managers, our call up limit of only 2 callups / send downs for prospects was created to avoid prospects being used as a permanent bench. We don't want them shuttled back and forth to create an unfair roster space advantage. That said, having 2 callups made sense, because guys get hurt, or are ineffective on their first callup and get sent down by their MLB team (yet keep prospect eligibility by our rules).
 
123Nerfherders
      ID: 33543714
      Fri, Apr 26, 2019, 11:39
I've always been in favor of saves + holds in leagues with more than 12 teams, because there simply aren't enough closers to go around. I see the point that that makes them hot commodities to be traded, and I think they'd still be very valuable because a closer gets way more saves than an MR gets holds.

Luck plays too big of a factor in closers too. A guy who is the presumptive closer has a bad week in April? He's gone, never to see the 9th inning ever again. Another reliever might be going along fine as the closer, only to see the team trade for someone who takes over the role.(Or trade him to a team with an established closer). The value of that particular pitcher is tied to factors not in his control. It's the only position like that in baseball.
 
124Tree
      ID: 77532019
      Fri, Apr 26, 2019, 13:40
re 118. exactly. that's been one of my arguments almost since i began in this league.

 
125Species
      SuperDude
      ID: 07724916
      Fri, Apr 26, 2019, 13:58
118: For context, the GP/IP rule was implemented fairly recently - 2015 or so - as a replacement for an old rule we had. That rule REQUIRED every team to fill every spot on their 'starting' roster (this was when we only had SIX P spots total, btw) with an active player. That required league / commissioner oversight (a pain) and IIRC had ambiguous consequences for failure (sadly we did not start posting Constitutions in Post 1 of the threads until after the rule change so I can compare).

The new rule was written to give the manager more flexibility in roster management, so long as minimums were met. Consequences (demerits) were quantified so that they were fair and impartial.

I would like all teams to weigh in. I will say that, overall, I have felt that this rule has both kept disinterested teams engaged and had a meaningful impact on statistical categories, thus having an effect on actual outcomes. On the flip side, I completely understand Greggo's point about letting rebuilders rebuild and not forcing roster spots on poor performers and streaming to meet arbitrary minimums. Both sides of the discussion have merit.
 
126GO
      ID: 14143919
      Fri, Apr 26, 2019, 14:26
Anyone get 2 phone notifications for every trade offer, reject or completed by other teams?
 
127beastiemiked
      ID: 35282121
      Fri, Apr 26, 2019, 14:36
I’m very against using holds in anyway. I like saves. Changing that would be a huge change as some team’s have made long term decisions based on saves. This is all coming from someone that has 1 save currently.
 
128Khahan
      ID: 80441414
      Fri, Apr 26, 2019, 15:02
For the GP/IP limits I've been fairly vocal against them the past years. However we made a few tweaks last season that I think we should give a fair chance to see how it plays out. Between lowering the limits and changes in roster set up it should, conceivably be less demanding to meet those limits (which as I think basic math showed last year was literally impossible for every manager to have reached them).

For saves vs holds - yes, it devalues closers. I agree with Pete's statement in 120. However I view that as a good thing. I think closer value is disproportionately high for what they can contribute.
A hitter is valued how many different categories he contributes to. A closer is valued primarily for contributing to 1 specific category. His value goes up if he keeps good ratios and up even more if he compiles K's, but his basic value is intrinsically tied to Saves. SP are not intrinsically tied to W. They are valued because they can contribute to any of the other 4 categories. How much they are valued is tied to how many of the 4 categories they contribute to.

Hitters are not intrinsically tied to any 1 category. The more of the 5 categories they contribute to, the more value any given hitter has.

Now, you have resource - a specific position - the is needed. That gives closers value that no other position has. Now we look at resource scarcity. There are 30 mlb teams and 20 teams in this league. Assuming 1 closer per team, that means half the league is automatically at a disadvantage in a category no matter what. In an even distribution, 10 teams will have 20 closers and 10 teams will have 1 closer. So now we have more value added to closers because of supply and demand.
How about consistency? Its always been a volatile resource to go after. As others have pointed out, a mid season injury, an early season cold streak and suddenly your closer is a worthless MR. You have more teams using CbC than ever before which means you spend multiple roster spots to get the same number of saves or you get less saves. We've seen a shift in managing philosophy that has seen many closers lose their job because they are the best reliever and they get used in tied games, tight games etc before a Save situation. We've got committee approach and more and more we have managers using the, "whos the got the hot hand" approach. Closers are becoming more scarce.

In 2018 there were 20 guys who had 20+ saves.
In 2017 there were 23 guys who had 20+ saves.

In 2018 there were 73 guys who had 20+ S/H
In 2017 there were 75 guys who had 20+ S/H

Now compare that to hitting categories and pools of players:
In 2018 there were 99 hitters with 20+ HR
In 2017 there were 114 hitters with 20+HR
In 2018 there were 41 hitters with 15+ SB
In 2017 there were 51 hitters with 15+ SB
In 2018 there were 78 hitters with 75+ runs
In 2017 there were 95 hitters with 75+ runs

Pitchers come out the same way with K's and W's. Reasonable baseline numbers that people look for we have a source pool of 55+ players to choose from. For every single counting stat except Saves we have a pool of 55+ players to choose from. Expanding from Saves the Saves/Holds brings our pool of resources for that category in line with the pool of resources for every other counting category.
 
129Khahan
      ID: 80441414
      Fri, Apr 26, 2019, 15:25
10 teams will have 20 closers and 10 teams will have 1 closer.
Should read: 10 teams will have "2" closers and 10 teams will have 1 closer.
 
130Species
      SuperDude
      ID: 07724916
      Fri, Apr 26, 2019, 18:19
For me, the argument for / against S + H breaks down like this:

Would this change create more or less competitiveness? Or to be more blunt, does it stunt creativity for convenience?

I agree with all of Khahan's points, and certainly the data supports his points. To me then, the question to the league is -- do you want to WORK for it, or do you want it EASIER?

Look what has to happen right now:
1) There was a frenzy of activity to get Ken Giles and Cody Allen types (let alone Archie Bradley - booooo) in post-keep trades.
2) Closer committee members and "next-in-line" to close types get rostered because the commodity of saves is so valuable.
3) I have successfully streamed vulture save candidates for the mere CHANCE of getting a lucky save.
4) I am sure there will be additional trades involving closers as the contenders rise and pretenders fade.

All of the above creates a market imbalance. What happens in a market imbalance? OPPORTUNITY. Opportunity to have a valued commodity to trade - be it for rebuilding teams or otherwise.

Honestly I have not yet bothered to research the viability of the S + H category and how I would attack it. But supply and demand would seem to indicate that there is ample supply, which then devalues the market for this asset. Is that what you want?
 
131 Gregg Curry
      ID: 38855205
      Fri, Apr 26, 2019, 18:27
For the record, I am more in favor of relaxing the GP/IP stuff more than I favor the SV + H.
 
132 Gregg Curry
      ID: 38855205
      Fri, Apr 26, 2019, 18:32
Also for the record, Ty Buttrey is now also available in trade. Now that Cody Allen is out, he looks to be in line for save ops. Check out his K rate and ERA. He now joins Bieber on the block for teams seeking a SP putting up stud #s better than many bigger names. Check for yourself. Both could be inuded in the right deal. See my post 110 above for what I am seeking.
 
133 Gregg Curry
      ID: 38855205
      Fri, Apr 26, 2019, 18:33
Yo Khahan, check your email.
 
134Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Fri, Apr 26, 2019, 18:58
[126] Last year, I got three notifications on my phone for every trade processed, or for a starting player on the bench.

Now I get none.
 
135ttucowboy
      ID: 172302717
      Fri, Apr 26, 2019, 19:06
I had a brain fart and dropped Lucroy instead of Vargas. Please correct if possible.
 
136Lyman
      ID: 2910361920
      Fri, Apr 26, 2019, 22:14
I have long thought it would be cool if the fantasy platforms featured a saves/holds category where holds have value but are only half the value of saves. A point system, as such, where saves are worth two points and holds are worth one point. In its current state, I have always been able to see both sides of the coin regarding saves/holds. Both Khahan and Species summed up nicely both sides of the arguement.

Regarding games played and innings minimums, I am for them. It keeps teams that are out of contention active. They might even find a jewel in the rough at a time when they otherwise would be absent and inactive. And "dead" teams can have a adverse impact on the final standings. Nothing sucks worse than losing a championship by a point because the champion benefitted from a dead team virtually sitting out all of September and, thus, passing said dead team in a category, by a single run scored for example.

Regarding the recent Yahoo vs ESPN debate. No contest. Yahoo. This league is AWESOME. But ESPN blows. Always has, apparently always will. Yahoo is by far more user friendly, with a more attractive design, more features, and the new advanced stats data is primo. It truly is no contest.
 
137Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sat, Apr 27, 2019, 17:46
Would it be instructive to set up a trial league on Yahoo (now) for anyone who wants to test the capabilities? I have not played on Yahoo for quite awhile, and would rather make an informed choice, if it comes to that.

 
138Khahan
      ID: 367431722
      Sat, Apr 27, 2019, 23:17
To those I've been discussing various trades with earlier this week - sorry, I didn't mean to ghost you guys. I'm barely home this weekend. And this past week and upcoming week work and school have been horrendous. Walking into finals at school early next week so my focus has been elsewhere.
 
139Nerfherders
      ID: 2211442615
      Sun, Apr 28, 2019, 12:28
Well, there it is. I knew it couldn't last forever. Still, a month in 1st place is a huge stepping stone for a team that's never sniffed the top 5 before.
 
140Lyman
      ID: 2910361920
      Sun, Apr 28, 2019, 12:36
To anybody needing some power in the outfield or at DH, Jorge Soler is available for an 8th round supplemental pick. The OBP is down, as his walk rate is down 3 percent from last season, but that could change and he's still on pace for 36 HR, something not readily found on the waiver wire. If interested, shoot me a trade offer and include whichever player you're dropping to acquire Soler. I'll accept and post the trade on the messageboard.
 
141ttucowboy
      ID: 172302717
      Sun, Apr 28, 2019, 13:07
Lyman - Christin Stewart is my prospect. He’ll need to be dropped. Just a heads up.
 
142Lyman
      ID: 48842210
      Sun, Apr 28, 2019, 17:34
Aw, man. Sorry about that. I confused him as your 10th keeper when you dropped him. My bad. I'll do better!
 
143ttucowboy
      ID: 172302717
      Sun, Apr 28, 2019, 18:36
No worries man!

Trade Announcement

ttucowboy trades:

2020 3rd round prospect pick
Logan Forsythe

Gregg trades:

Ty Buttrey
 
144 Gregg Curry
      ID: 38855205
      Sun, Apr 28, 2019, 18:45
Confirm
 
145GO
      ID: 14143919
      Mon, Apr 29, 2019, 09:10
Getting out of last is nice because now i can see my roto score not blocked by a pop up ad on the app lol... now i shoot for top 12 so i dont have to scroll... #ESPNappgoals
 
146 Gregg Curry
      ID: 38855205
      Mon, Apr 29, 2019, 15:11
Another player on the block: Alex Gordon. Yep Alex Gordon. Check the #s and pace he's on. Current: .408 OBP, 18 R, 5 HR, 21 RBI. 90-100 R pace, 100 RBI pace, 25-30 HR pace
 
147Species
      SuperDude
      ID: 07724916
      Mon, Apr 29, 2019, 17:40
Greggo is makin' Pimpin' look EASY! Big Daddy Kane would be proud!
 
148 Gregg Curry
      ID: 38855205
      Mon, Apr 29, 2019, 22:05
Haha Species. I was impressed by Lyman's sales pitch on Soler. Thought I would join the pimp parade.
 
149beastiemiked
      ID: 35282121
      Tue, Apr 30, 2019, 14:40
Sending tatis down for 1st time.
 
150Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Apr 30, 2019, 18:05
[134] I spoke too soon. Now I'm getting four notices for each trade completed (on my phone)
 
151WG
      ID: 53213822
      Tue, Apr 30, 2019, 18:52
TRADE
WG gets Sonny Gray
Tree gets Pablo Lopez
 
152Thumqer
      ID: 39230821
      Wed, May 01, 2019, 08:16
I am for Yahoo and am for Saves + Holds. I know Ryan Pressly types are better than the Sergio Romo’s in real life. Giving credit for holds gives relevance to the better players who are just on the wrong depth chart behind another closer.
 
153Thumqer
      ID: 39230821
      Wed, May 01, 2019, 13:07
For any Save-Deprived teams I can spare a closer to upgrade a bat or SP. Let me know, I’ve tossed a few feelers out already!
 
154 Slizz
      ID: 53336714
      Wed, May 01, 2019, 14:55
When Rendon and Archer come back from the DL, I am going to need to make room on my roster.

Would love to trade an arm for a pick...mainly Brad Keller. If interested, hit me up!
 
155WG
      Donor
      ID: 35338278
      Wed, May 01, 2019, 14:59
While I agree that holds is good in that it rewards those Pressly types, I think in terms of game play it opens us up to more adding and streaming without much of a strategic component to it. On any day there’s a ton of MR that have the opportunity to get a hold. Our 8 Men Out league switched to it and I see in practice how mindless it is to address this category. I just look for team’s with good SP and each day add 2-4 MR that have a good chance to pitch with a lead. Implement the same change in G20 and some managers will hit 1000 moves.

If set on making the switch, I’d at the very least suggest switching from P to SP/RP to prevent the ability to load up on MR on any chosen day. Or ideally, implement a moves cap.
 
156WG
      Donor
      ID: 35338278
      Wed, May 01, 2019, 15:01
Just liken Catchers are basically devalued now with everyone adding/dropping everyday and calling it streaming... I think all relievers would be devalued to an extent.
 
157Slizz
      ID: 53336714
      Wed, May 01, 2019, 16:37
I was for saves and holds, but in private conversations with WG and Pete, I am now against it. WG is 100% right in his previous post and I am fine staying with Saves only.
 
158Species
      ID: 351051122
      Wed, May 01, 2019, 23:44
I remain interested in a decent SP. Assets to consider:

- Craig Kimbrel
- P picks
- S picks
 
159Species
      ID: 351051122
      Wed, May 01, 2019, 23:46
Or other closers for that matter:

- Shane Greene (aka Superman)
- Wade Davis
- Blake Parker
 
160Nerfherders
      ID: 33543714
      Thu, May 02, 2019, 12:09
I see both points on the saves-holds debate. In a perfect world without streaming it would work brilliantly, but that is not this league. Heh.

If there was another way to involve middle relievers without having to stream the stat, I'd be all for it.
 
161Species
      SuperDude
      ID: 07724916
      Thu, May 02, 2019, 13:24
WG is right. I want a competitive, innovative league, but streaming MR on an every day basis is going a bit too far. If we gave any consideration to S + H it would have to be done with a moves cap.
 
162Khahan
      ID: 80441414
      Thu, May 02, 2019, 14:32
Here's our activity data year to date:
Range of acquisitions (note I didn't use drops or total activity because these are somewhat redundant to the conversation of streaming. You generally cannot make an add w/out a corresponding drop. total activity also includes trades which may also include drops. So streaming in this chart is measured solely on adds)

Range:
16, 17, 18, 18, 21, 21, 27, 29, 29, 32, 34, 40, 47, 49, 62, 62, 63, 65, 73, 152

Average: 43.7 Average without highest and lowest: 37.6 (without the highest we're at 36.4)
median: 32 34

Interesting notes: the person at the bottom of the transaction counter is in 7nd place. The person at the top of the transaction counter is in 13th.

We already have a league where 2-3 people are playing a different fantasy baseball game different from the rest of us.

In 8 Men Out we went to S+H and only 1 person is actually streaming relievers. He's in first place but it has nothing to do with his streaming of relievers as he has a 1 in S+H category.

What S+H has done for us is devalued a small portion of the player pool (roughly 10-15 guys) to the point where they are not grossly over valued. At the same time it has actually increased the value of a far larger group of players to the point where they aren't undervalued anymore. Streaming has not been an issue in the least. But injuries or loss of a closer job has conversely not been a devastating blow.

Our league does not have a league-wide streaming problem and I dont think we're suddenly going to get if we go to S+H. But if you want to discuss a moves cap I'd suggest I'd suggest 140 (median is 32 and 34 so use 33. We are about 1/4 of the way thru the season. 33x4=132 moves would be the median. Add a handful in for those who like a bit more activity. But I really dont think its needed.
 
163 Gregg Curry
      ID: 38855205
      Thu, May 02, 2019, 16:04
Now that was a helluva post Khahan. I, too, have been in saves + holds leagues that had nowhere near as much streaming as this league. I love this league, but to me a major drawback to the mad streaming is this: It doesn't reward a GM who asseses talent accurately as much as a league with acquistion limits. It just rewards plugging in a warm mediocre to below average player to pile up counting stats. Reward excellent players and GMs who spot them
 
164Slizz
      ID: 53336714
      Thu, May 02, 2019, 17:57
I am vehemently against any type of moves cap. The more nuances and tweaking of the rules makes G20 become less appealing. Just leave it be!
 
165Khahan
      ID: 367431722
      Thu, May 02, 2019, 21:05
I'm actually with slizz on the not wanting a moves cap. I only suggested one as part of the flow of the conversation. But like I said - I dont think we're really going to have a streaming problem.
 
166ttucowboy
      ID: 172302717
      Thu, May 02, 2019, 22:12
I’m with Slizz. This league is meant to be enjoyable, not a pain in the ass or a chore. I suppose I’d have to adapt if the majority wants S + H, but it doesn’t seem appealing at all.
 
167Lyman
      ID: 2910361920
      Thu, May 02, 2019, 22:39
I found WG's post regarding the cons of streaming middle relievers very persuasive. I don't have any problem with Blue Hen streaming a new catcher everyday, nor with most of us streaming starting pitching. But streaming middle relievers everyday does seem excessive.

I also would be against a transaction limit. I think all the activity is a good thing. Kind of forces my hand sometimes, because I know there's potentially 19 other managers who are considering picking up the same player I'm zeroing in on.
 
168WG
      ID: 53213822
      Thu, May 02, 2019, 23:49
Khahan, meant no disrespect to you or your league. I thoroughly enjoy 8 Men Out and find the keeper aspect unique and a challenging twist. But I do fail to see how a holds category in G20 won't lead to a significant increase in streaming. In 8 Men Out I'm in last place in S+H specifically because I can stream everyday later in the year. I drafted no relievers in the draft and focused on high upside guys that could grow to be cheap keepers. So I had 0 relievers for a few days, then 1, and so on. I've been adding MR everyday recently and have no doubts I'll move up from a 1 in short order. I did the same last year and nearly caught VW by doing it. True, others have not been doing it but nothing is stopping them from doing it, except maybe a reluctance to drop drafted players still in the hopes they pan out as keepers.

Don't guys like Ryan Pressly and Nick Anderson have massive value as is? I'd wager that most of the top teams have or will have 1-2 high quality MR to stabilize ratios and boost K/9.

Yahoo has a built in cap on moves that ESPN does't. In 8 Men Out and other "Daily-Today" lineup changes leagues, you'd add those MR for today and then be stuck with them til tomorrow. In "Daily-Tomorrow" leagues, its a guessing game as to who will actually play tomorrow (this affects position players more than relievers as, if you were streaming holds, you just wouldn't add guys who have pitched a few days in a row - you wouldn't need to see a published lineup like you would for position players to know who is playing). ESPN has neither of these checks and that's why we see 500+ adds each year. Rambling a bit here, but no one will ever convince me that 500 moves is necessary or appropriate, reacting quickly to breaking news is a skill or sign of good gameplay, and checks on adds (like Yahoo's built in checks) or a moves cap is a bad thing or infringing on people's rights and liberties. I've probably made the second most adds since I've joined and I would gladly still vote for curtailing the ability to freely make them. Think of it like gun laws: I'm not saying no one should have any, just that maybe people don't need assault rifles.
 
169Thumqer
      ID: 39230821
      Fri, May 03, 2019, 09:01
Vehemently is such a good word
 
170Tosh
      Dude
      ID: 057721710
      Fri, May 03, 2019, 11:30
[162] -- Just for accuracy ...

Those transaction numbers include the players picked up from the FA list as part of the draft. So it's 12-14 high for everyone.

I'm the manager that's first listed at 16 transactions. But I've only had two transactions this season...

04/01 - Drop 1 MR. Add a different one
04/20 - Add 1 MR when an OF went on IL. That MR was dropped on 04/30.

 
171 WG
      Donor
      ID: 35338278
      Fri, May 03, 2019, 13:32
Anyone interested in Luis Severino?? You can IL- stash him!
 
172 Gregg Curry
      ID: 38855205
      Fri, May 03, 2019, 15:43
Vehemently is a good word indeed. Here's an example of vehemently streaming: 13 transactions in less than 36 hours. Really? That's ridiculous. You guys really don't think some cap on transactions is merited? Why not just call the league "Stream City"?
 
173WG
      Donor
      ID: 35338278
      Fri, May 03, 2019, 15:54
Agreed. How about 10 a week??
 
174WG
      Donor
      ID: 35338278
      Fri, May 03, 2019, 16:26
My main issue is less with streaming, since we have a finite number of GP and IP and any stream counts towards a set cap. It’s the infinite amount of moves you can make to get to that finite number. Those 13 adds likely aren’t for 13 streams but probably for like 3. Put a cap on moves and you’re just preventing this ability to make 5 adds to reach 1 stream. People with jobs that allow them to check their phones all the time already have a massive advantage in being able to add anyone based on breaking news... isn’t that enough? (Although ideally I’d aim to pass measures to prevent this as well, but it’ll never take). If I’m the first person to see the Twins lineup come out with Jason Castro starting, let me pick him up and decide to play him that night. Do I really need to, when I next become the first person to see the White Sox lineup come out with James McCann starting, be able to dump Castro for McCann because I think he’s the slightly better play? Force me to decide whether Castro is worth the add to stream or if I should wait to see if someone better ends up starting that I can add to stream. I still have an advantage in being able to react to news quickly, just not an open-ended one.
 
175ttucowboy
      ID: 172302717
      Fri, May 03, 2019, 20:06
I’m not sure if it’s possible, but I actually like the idea of being forced to hold an add through one lock. Slaying through FAs adding/dropping before lock is absurd. This would force some accountability and ensure responsible streaming.
 
176 Gregg Curry
      ID: 38855205
      Fri, May 03, 2019, 22:58
Yes. Muse of "streaming" was confusing. I mean I think we should have a limit on the # of add/drops per week or day.
 
177Khahan
      ID: 367431722
      Sat, May 04, 2019, 02:49
WG - can you clarify your stance on streaming? Or maybe clarify what I'm missing. In post 168 you make it clear you want no restrictions on streaming. In post 174 you seem to be stumping for some kind of restriction on streaming.

I also fail to see what 'streaming MR every day' accomplishes. Nobody knows who is going to get a hold, not with the reliability we get can somewhat count on to get saves. So dropping 1 MR for another is just a crap shoot. Going into the day its really no different from just holding the same guy. Unless you know he's been used 3 or 4 days in a row so you drop him to get somebody you hope gets used.
 
178 GreggoRomans
      ID: 47931312
      Sat, May 04, 2019, 06:09
post 176 should begin: "Yes. My use...."
 
179Species
      ID: 351051122
      Sat, May 04, 2019, 10:13
177: Say you have Jacob DeGrom going up against the Marlins' worst pitcher. Pretty high probability of a win. As such, each Mets middle reliever could have a high chance for a hold.

It's like stacking in DFS. You take the best matchup(s) and use multiple players off of that perceived mismatch and hope for strong stats.
 
180Khahan
      ID: 367431722
      Sat, May 04, 2019, 11:02
179 - except that Degrom in particular is a guy who is going to have a good chance at 7IP or more. So how many Mets relievers will realistically be used and which ones? Holds are not so easy to predict and many of the moves that are made are just shots in the dark.

There is also the value of the players to take into account. That is the other side of this conversation: If Edwin Diaz for example goes down with an injury today, Seth Lugo, Justin Wilson and Robert Gsellman suddenly become the most valuable FA on the market (since familia is down too). And who benefits from that? The first person to log in and grab them. Wow, what skill and management savvy that is. Basically whoever grabs the right guy just hit the lottery.

If Greg Holland goes down for the year for the season, Archie Bradley Jr is suddenly the only player on the FA list anybody wants. And he has 'hold until the end of the year' value before throwing a single pitch in his new role.

Oh, and the team who had Holland - well they are very likely in the crapper. Especially in a 20 team league there aren't even enough full time closers for every team to have 2.

But with S+H as a category, many of these guys are already on rosters. Losing 1 means you go from pool of roughly guys to be divided between 20 teams and having only 1 shot at recovery to a pool of approximately 50 viable options.

Yes, you can stream and plug and play to gain an edge. You can do that with catchers. You can do that with Monday/thursday games for any stat. But you can't do that right now with Saves alone. Its actually the only category where really isn't a viable strategy.

For people really worried about 2-3 managers who may go over the top streaming compared to the rest of the league, then we can do something simple like next day transactions. But I really dont think we need to.
 
181Lyman
      ID: 5102078
      Sat, May 04, 2019, 17:05
Gah. I thought I was against saves+holds, and then Khahan makes the points he made in post 180. As I said before, I can always see both sides on the saves + holds discussion. Put me down as neutral until or if an official vote is raised.
 
182 GreggoRomans
      ID: 47931312
      Sun, May 05, 2019, 00:04
After today's games, at the roughly 1/5 of the season point, I have a player who has played 32 games I want to trade to someone who has a chance to win this year. He is 8th in MLB in RBI with 27; he is 18th in R with 22; he is 20th in OBP at .394; and he is on pace for 29 HR. If the numbers mean more to you than the name, get in touch. I have made no bones about it: I am rebuilding big-time. So, p. picks and/or young guys should do it. I am also open to broadening a trade to include multiple players.
 
183 GreggoRomans
      ID: 47931312
      Sun, May 05, 2019, 00:27
Forgot to mention his name: Alex Gordon. And with the jackrabbits batting in front of him running fast around the bases, he is going to get RBI opps.
 
184Tree
      ID: 217372011
      Sun, May 05, 2019, 10:57
This league is meant to be enjoyable, not a pain in the ass or a chore.

That's been my argument against minimums, but to no avail.

The prime reason to add holds is to decrease the over valuation of closers.

If this were a smaller league, it would matter less, but it's not.


Closers are at such a premium, arguably more than any other position, that their value is gross inflated for a guy who mostly contributes one category.
 
185ttucowboy
      ID: 172302717
      Mon, May 06, 2019, 06:58
184: I don’t see it as an apples to apples comparison. It doesn’t take much effort at all to hit the minimums. Plus, it disrupts the integrity of the league when a team goes in full blown tank mode, loses interest for a particular year and doesn’t bother to check anything for weeks at a time (which is exactly what was happening before minimums were put in place).

I’m also confused on how the current value for closers is a bad thing. There are different ways to attack the closer position. Me personally, I’ll never win the race to the wire for the Flavor of the day/week at closer so I addressed in the draft and used a keeper slot. Greggo, who is in the process of rebuilding, acquired a 3rd round prospect pick for Buttrey. He never would’ve received that pick if it was a S + H league. He took a flier on Buttrey in the draft and spun it into a 3rd round prospect pick. That’s a great ROI for a rebuilding team.

At the end of the day, I’d like to see less bitching and more strategic planning.
 
186GO
      ID: 14143919
      Mon, May 06, 2019, 09:44
Any idea why SP is there twice as a position in the free agent sort? Am i missing something?
 
187Nerfherders
      ID: 33543714
      Mon, May 06, 2019, 11:58
Sucky Pitcher? That is a very large category this season.
 
188Meatwads
      ID: 43056268
      Mon, May 06, 2019, 16:02
ON THE TRADE BLOCK
Does anyone need a top 20 SP? I'd like to introduce you to Charlie Morton. With a 2.56 era, 1.09 whip, 11.0 K/9, he has all the right moves for you single ladies. The advanced metrics back up his success, so don't be shy.

I've received a notable offer for him. I'm planning on trading him this week, so don't wait if you're interested. I'm open to all kinds of offers. It's all about the overall value.
 
189Species
      SuperDude
      ID: 07724916
      Tue, May 07, 2019, 17:41
* Trade Announcement *

Species receives:

Charlie Morton

Meatwads receives:

2020 1st round prospect pick
2021 1st round prospect pick
Chris Iannetta
 
190Meatwads
      ID: 43056268
      Tue, May 07, 2019, 17:49
Confirmed
 
191Blue Hen
      ID: 410452818
      Tue, May 07, 2019, 21:47
Looking to acquire a solid closer and a big bopper bat (age 29 or older). Can spare p picks, including Curry’s 2020 1st, which looks better by the day, or young pieces like Verdugo or Peraza. Let’s talk.
 
192Khahan
      ID: 80441414
      Wed, May 08, 2019, 10:00
Sending Carter Keiboom back down to the minors for the first time for more seasoning.
 
193Species
      SuperDude
      ID: 07724916
      Wed, May 08, 2019, 11:46
When Craig Kimbrel finally signs, more than likely after June 2nd (when Draft Pick compensation ends because the draft is June 2nd), I will have four legit relievers getting saves:

Shane Greene
Wade Davis
Blake Parker (albeit leading a committee)
Craig Kimbrel

I still need to build up some save equity before I deal........but as June 1st approaches, hit me up!
 
194Species
      SuperDude
      ID: 07724916
      Wed, May 08, 2019, 12:11
We are 22% of the way through the season. As such, to meet league minimums, today's pace would be roughly 302 games played and 264 IP.

There are only 2 teams short of the games played pace. Good job!! Unsurprisingly one of them is Fosten who sports SIX players on the IL (although Meadows is due back Friday), one demoted to the minors, as well as 2 prospects he is stashing.

There are 5 teams short of pace for IP, including myself. Four of them are within 25 IP of that mark - likely reachable with any semblance of health and attention. Fosten is 61 IP behind that mark.

The composition of Fosten's roster would have been illegal under our old rules (which required an 'active' player in each 'starting' spot). Our new rules leave it to each manager to decide how best to manage their rosters, balancing GP/IP with roster composition preferences. Admittedly Fosten's injury situation is just ridiculously poor luck - and for the most part these are players he really MUST hold - but he is exacerbating his GP/IP issues by holding prospects on top of that.

My message (to EVERYONE - not picking on Fosten specifically) is simple: do whatever you feel you have to do for the good of your team. The consequences are in black and white in the rules, so be ready to live with them.
 
195 Slizz
      ID: 53336714
      Wed, May 08, 2019, 16:47
Looking to move one of my pitchers...I’m ahead on IP and could use a bat.

Even though I just traded for him, Archer is the one I would like to move. 200+ k could go a long way...
 
196 Meatwads
      ID: 43056268
      Thu, May 09, 2019, 17:15
ON THE TRADE BLOCK
Does anyone need a slugger at 1B or DH? Edwin Encarnacion could be the answer for you. Known as a slow starter, he's come out on fire this season (.381 OBP, 28 R, 12 HR, 26 RBI)

I've had some preliminary discussions with a couple people. Anyone I haven't spoke to that's interested, let me know relatively soon.

A few people have asked me about packaging a couple of my players. That's something I would look into if (1) I wasn't satisfied with any individual offer or (2) The offer I'm receiving is too enticing to pass on. I'd prefer to sell them individually, but would package if I'm compensated as though I did.
 
197Thumqer
      ID: 39230821
      Fri, May 10, 2019, 13:09
TRADE ANNOUNCEMENT

Tree receives
Corbin Burnes, SP, MIL
Thumper’s 2020 1st round supplemental pick

Thumper receives
Jawn Segura, SS, PHI
Joey Lucchestnut, SP, SD
 
198Tree
      ID: 217372011
      Fri, May 10, 2019, 13:26
Wait a minute, I thought I was trading Joey Loose Cheese Nuts.

Confirmed.
 
199Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, May 12, 2019, 14:49
Sending down Francisco Mejia (second time).
 
200Blue Hen
      ID: 410452818
      Mon, May 13, 2019, 11:08
Jose Altuve is available. Not on the block, but available. For Altuve, I’m looking for a keeper quality (and was kept) second baseman, a stud hitter (who was also kept), and a closer, who was projected for a whip below 1.16 before the season and has job stability. Would also accept a stud starting pitcher in place of one of these.
 
201GO
      ID: 14143919
      Mon, May 13, 2019, 14:08
So Profar... Castellanos... Strop (whip 1.13)? Boom!

You could probably also get a 1st rounder too. Don't limit yourself.
 
202beastiemiked
      ID: 35282121
      Mon, May 13, 2019, 17:04
Sending Alcantara down for the 1st time.
 
203Meatwads
      ID: 43056268
      Mon, May 13, 2019, 19:26
TRADE ANNOUNCEMENT

Meatwads trade :
Edwin Encarnacion, 1B, SEA
Dee Gordon, 2B/OF, SEA
Kenley Jansen, RP, LAD

Blue Hen trades :
Jose Altuve, 2B, HOU
Greggo's 2020 1st round prospect pick
Blue Hen's 2020 2nd round prospect pick
 
204Blue Hen
      ID: 410452818
      Mon, May 13, 2019, 19:34
Confirmed
 
206Fosten
      ID: 5943389
      Tue, May 14, 2019, 15:15
Munson Mobsters May Sales Flyer
After an April riddled with injuries, the Mobsters have quietly positioned their horse in the middle of the pack. Coming around the first quarter mile, we have been paying close attention to the GP/IP pace, and remain confident our team will be competitive down the stretch. Our hitting warehouse is currently overstocked with inventory however, and it would be fun to shake things up with some trades.

You Can Has Cheezburger?
The market has been quiet lately on these previously advertised players, which is great news for a Mobsters top 6 finish.
- 1B Paul Goldschmidt
- OF Mallex Smith
- OF Gregory Polanco

MASH Reinforcements Returning This Week!
Our trainers have taken a look at their medical reports and confirmed these guys are good to go.
- 2B Jed Lowrie
- SS Scott Kingery
- 3B Miguel Sano

Our Other Angel in the Outfield
Who has a career .857 2nd-half OPS, 18.37 AB/HR in August/September, and doesn’t swing a bat with his toe?
- OF Justin UpTOE

Young Thoroughbreds For Sale
As long as Maximum Security stays in his lane, we believe these non-Phillie fillies are destined break out.
- C Danny Jansen
- OF Cristian Pache
- 3B Ryan Mountcastle
 
207Fosten
      ID: 5943389
      Tue, May 14, 2019, 16:50
Correction: Jed Lowrie's hidden hamstring strain was not known at the time of publication. Long live Stevie Wilkerson.
 
208 beastiemiked
      ID: 35282121
      Tue, May 14, 2019, 21:13
Sorry for the group message. I hit reply on an email message from espn and it sent it to everyone. If you need to contact me for a trade, please send it to my email or contact me via email to get my phone number.
 
209Blue Hen
      ID: 410452818
      Tue, May 14, 2019, 22:23
Obviously, Ryan O’Hearn is available, and pretty cheap. He’s just 25, and hit 12 homers in half a season last year. Looking for an S pick upgrade or late prospect pick.
 
210Tree
      ID: 217372011
      Tue, May 14, 2019, 23:42
As david Robertson gets shut down for a month, Miguel Andujar goes back on DL, and Julio Urias aims for a lengthy domestic violence suspension, I hereby announce that my team appears poised for a perfect 10 - as in finishing with 10 total points at seasons end.

What the hell.
 
211mjd
      ID: 10221911
      Wed, May 15, 2019, 12:34
Calling up Austin Riley for the first time.
 
212Nerfherders
      ID: 33543714
      Wed, May 15, 2019, 12:36
I didn't think I'd see 1st again.

Calling up Hiura for first time.

Entertaining offers for Khris Davis. Looking for a lesser hitter with some pop and a middle-tier closer.
 
213 Gregg Curry
      ID: 38855205
      Wed, May 15, 2019, 12:41
GreggoRomans trade Alex Gordon and Jose Martinez to WG.
WG trades Christian Walker and Willy Adames to GreggoRomans.
 
214WG
      Donor
      ID: 35338278
      Wed, May 15, 2019, 15:12
Confirmed
 
215Nerfherders
      ID: 33543714
      Wed, May 15, 2019, 16:02
Nerfherders trades:
Khris Davis
Gio Urshula
3rd round p-pick
4th round s-pick

Thumpers trades:
Jorge Soler
Marwin Gonzalez
Alex Colome

 
216Thumqer
      ID: 39230821
      Wed, May 15, 2019, 16:07
Confirmed. The picks are for 2020
 
217WG
      Donor
      ID: 35338278
      Wed, May 15, 2019, 16:09
Confirmed
 
218Tree
      ID: 217372011
      Wed, May 15, 2019, 22:11
"Miguel Andujar has elected to undergo surgery on his torn right labrum.Andujar's season is now over."

On the same day Gleyber Torres hits 3 home runs, and my team still loses 1.5 points in the standings.

That's my season in a nutshell.
 
219Species
      ID: 351051122
      Thu, May 16, 2019, 03:50
Add to that the missed Willie Calhoun HR. That's on you though.
 
220Meatwads
      ID: 43056268
      Thu, May 16, 2019, 06:49
TRADE ANNOUCEMENT

Meatwads trade :
Daniel Vogelbach, 1B, SEA
Tommy La Stella, 2B/3B, LAA

Greggo Romans trade :
Shane Bieber, SP, CLE
Luis Garcia, INF, WSH (Prospect)
 
221 Gregg Curry
      ID: 38855205
      Thu, May 16, 2019, 06:58
Confirm
 
222 Gregg Curry
      ID: 38855205
      Thu, May 16, 2019, 06:58
Confirm
 
223Thumqer
      ID: 39230821
      Thu, May 16, 2019, 13:23
Looking to pair an SP with Paul DeJong or Jean Segura for a better SP. Let me know if you’re interested please!
 
224Thumqer
      ID: 39230821
      Fri, May 17, 2019, 21:32
TRADE ANNOUNCEMENT

Greggo Receives
Paul DeJong, SS, STL
Thumper's 2020 1st round p pick

Thumper Receives
Chris Paddack, SP, SD
Greggo's 2020 3rd round p pick
 
225 Gregg Curry
      ID: 38855205
      Fri, May 17, 2019, 21:53
Confirm
 
226 Gregg Curry
      ID: 38855205
      Fri, May 17, 2019, 21:53
Confirm
 
227 Gregg Curry
      ID: 38855205
      Sat, May 18, 2019, 19:19
Since I am not an espn + subscriber, I don't know the answer to this, but: has Keith Law seen fit to include Yordan Alvarez in his Top-100 Prospects List yet?
 
228 Gregg Curry
      ID: 38855205
      Tue, May 21, 2019, 03:22
Some players available for trade who would be low cost (e.g. Supp pick) who can be useful if managed right:
(1) Addison Russell, a few more starts at 2b
to be eligible at both 2B-SS;
(2) Logan Forsythe, 1B-2B, .420 OBP in 112
ABs, 3 games from SS-eligible, 4 games
from 3B-eligible;
(3) Nick Ahmed, everyday SS in a good lineup
in a good park with decent counting
stats;
(4) Willy Adames, another everday SS, who
after a slow start has really heated up
over the past month.

 
229 Gregg Curry
      ID: 38855205
      Tue, May 21, 2019, 03:31
On the pitching front, here's a few to consider (prices may vary). If you need pitching help, each one of these guys are 24-27 years old with past or present numbers to endorse them:
(1) Carlos Martinez, newly off the DL;
(2) Zach Davies, 5 W, 1.54 ERA, 1.18 WHIP;
(3) Tyler Mahle, 3.51 ERA, 1.17 WHIP, 54 Ks in 51 IP.
 
230 Gregg Curry
      ID: 38855205
      Tue, May 21, 2019, 04:26
Multi-player trades are an option as well.
 
231 WG
      Donor
      ID: 35338278
      Wed, May 22, 2019, 14:15
Still looking to move Luis Severino for help this year. Also have some good Prospects I can trade.
 
232Tree
      ID: 77532019
      Wed, May 22, 2019, 17:01
as my amazing luck continues with Willie Calhoun hitting the DL and Corbin Burnes pitching about as well as Corbin Bernsen, i suppose it's time to put closer Shawn Kelley up on the market.

2 days off the DL, 2 saves. whatcha gonna do when Shawn Kelley is closing for youuuuuuuuuuuuu, brotha!
 
233 Tree
      ID: 77532019
      Wed, May 22, 2019, 17:04
if you have my number and are interested, text me. if not, email works too.
 
234Species
      SuperDude
      ID: 07724916
      Thu, May 23, 2019, 17:29
We are hitting 30% of the way through the season, and NOBODY is running away with this thing....which is great for the league. Parity rules!

I have been very impressed with many teams so far this year:

ttucowboy has shown aggression in acquiring Robbie Ray and Shin-Soo Choo while getting huge starts from keeper (which received some criticism) Tyler Glasnow, fireman of the year Kirby Yates and stalwarts Trevor Story and Mitch Haniger. However it is the resurgence of Kris Bryant that has really helped carry his offense despite uberbeast Giancarlo Stanton only getting 8 at bats before getting hurt. Despite what could be considered a flop of an early draft in Miggy, Desmond, Morrow and McHugh, ttucowboy has skillfully inserted greatly beneficial players off the waiver wire in Dwight Smith and Raimel Tapia.

Time will tell, but expect ttucowboy to be in the thick of it all year.

Nerfherders is enjoying his best run in my memory, and it is great to see a new name rise to the top. The ballsy trade of Max Scherzer gave him 3 assets in heavy use at this point in Chapman (his saves leader), Tanaka (great ratios to date) and Hiura. Combining them with the incredible starts of Bellinger, 2nd round pick Brandon Lowe, a surging Clint Frazier and strong contributions from Maeda (round 1 pick), Eflin (8th round) and Hernandez (while he has cooled off, he has still put up solid counting stats).

Nerf has the starting pitching to stay in contention, and if Chapman and recent acquisition Colome can stay healthy he can improve in saves. I don't see him going anywhere either.

In my opinion Thumper has been this season's best manager. He continues to wheel and deal and I wish I had half of his vision to be able to make multiple deals over a broad period of time that you can't assume will lead to future deals. He continuously adds pieces that turn into something else later and it ends up fitting great (the DeJong and Segura trades as an example).

Josh Bell turning into Superman sure as hell hasn't hurt. Bregman has been a beast and McCutcheon has been the very solid contributor he was expected to be in Philly. His keeper closers have been solid and he added significantly to them with Colome (pre-trade) and Neris having been drafted and the vision to jump on Luke Jackson like he was a precog in Minority Report.

He has done all of this with Aaron Judge on the DL forever, Heaney having yet to throw a pitch in MLB and Jameson Taillon now on the shelf. Now he has Chris Paddack and is truly a scary team going forward.

The demise of WG has been greatly exaggerated! Honestly I am shocked to see him in contention considering the injuries of keepers Severino and Knebel and the immediate injury of his first pick Strickland in the 2nd. How does he do it? It helps when you kill it in the draft with picks like Cron (3.17), Minor (9.04), Y. Chirinos (10.15) and Montas (13.19). Greinke refuses to let a 91 mph fastball define him, and while Carrasco is hurting a bit in ERA his K/9 is killer and I have little doubt he will right his ratios in time.

If recent acquisitions Gordon and Martinez can keep things up, he will rise in hitting and be right there in the end.

Easily the most impressive of those not in the top 6 has to be Lyman. He has taken a pretty ragtag team and hit on so many acquisitions that you can't call it luck:
- Stuck with Gary Sanchez, refusing to trade him while his value is down and has the best Catcher in the league.
- He targeted Luke Voit to win the Yankees 1b job and continue his breakout. 11 bombs, 31 runs and 34 rbi later his .375 obp has him as one of the best 1b in the league.
- He drafted Michael Chavis in the prospect draft, who has exploded onto the scene in Boston. Pedroia who????
- He took the chance that Luis Castillo would cash in on his great stuff and make the ascent into ace territory. Cha-ching!
- He killed the Supplemental draft, getting Caleb Smith (6.19), Jorge Soler (7.03), Odorizzi (11.15), Yandy Diaz (12.01) and DJ Lamahieu (12.08).
- He sold Chris Archer for peak value, getting stud 2b prospect Vidal Brujan in the process.

Sure he has flopped a bit with Ian Happ and David Dahl as keepers (although Dahl still has potential), but those criticisms pale in comparison to the accolades above.

And oh by the way, a prospect roster that includes Wander Franco, Brent Honeywell, Alex Kirilloff, Nate Lowe and Brujan is something to fear.

Basically we are all going to be Lyman's bitch sooner rather than later.

Other observations:
- Tosh does this every year and seems to be on the edge of contention in the most stealthy way possible.
- blue hen's huge trade for Encarnacion, Jansen and Gordon will continue to reap rewards (although Gordon going on IL is a tough break) and he will continue to climb up the standings.
- Meatwads' white flag trades are interesting, given that he easily has (had?) the best offense in the league. But after the slow start of Sale, the injury to Kershaw to start the year and not finding any help in the supplemental draft, I think he was right to believe his pitching was beyond saving. His deft trades to reload for 2020 (acquiring Altuve and Bieber, Morton for multiple 1st p-picks) so far have been very strategic.

Any team that can get to 160 points is going to be hard to beat. Every contender has imperfections, and injuries and slumps can happen to us all. Everyone keep up your diligence and best of luck to you all.
 
235Nerfherders
      ID: 33543714
      Fri, May 24, 2019, 12:23
It's definitely been a different year for me. This is the first year I've been in contention. It's a different mindset - I'm more willing to take a chance than simply stand pat and hope for next year. Trading for the now is definitely a new thing for this team, but I've been here before in other leagues.

One thing Guru taught us from last year is you don't need 200+ moves to win this league. You just have to be smart (and a little lucky).
 
236Tosh
      Dude
      ID: 057721710
      Fri, May 24, 2019, 15:59
Anyone looking for a veteran OFer to stabilize your team? Maybe you want ...

Adam Jones -- A little better in HRs.
Nick Markakis -- A little better in OBP

I'm seeking a SP of comparable value.
 
238 Species
      SuperDude
      ID: 07724916
      Fri, May 24, 2019, 16:17
youngroman -- please contact me at your earliest convenience. Thanks.
 
239Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sat, May 25, 2019, 10:26
It looks like Springer is now headed to the IL, joining kluber, and probably putting my team into a death spiral. Some of you have been emailing me recently looking for my interest in a variety of different trade options. I just want to let you know that at the moment, we just moved my dad into hospice care, and we think his days are very limited. So Fantasy Baseball is not something that I am capable of dealing with at the moment.

Dad is 91, and has lived a wonderful life. He is very comfortable with his fate at this point, and is surrounded by his family and friends. So we are in a good place, providing support for each other. Fantasy Baseball just has to take a backseat for the moment. Thanks for your understanding.
 
240Species
      ID: 351051122
      Sat, May 25, 2019, 14:10
Best of thoughts to you and your family Guru.
 
241 Gregg Curry
      ID: 38855205
      Sun, May 26, 2019, 06:40
I was there this time last year guru. Sending you the kind of vibes that say: find what is there to learn in this time when it all comes clear. Pay attention and hang on to what you see, feel, and learn.
 
242GO
      ID: 14143919
      Sun, May 26, 2019, 13:03
Called up Brendan Rodgers 1st time
 
243Fosten
      ID: 144332512
      Mon, May 27, 2019, 09:42
Calling up Mitch Keller for his MLB debut.
 
244Thumqer
      ID: 39230821
      Mon, May 27, 2019, 13:08
Thanks for the kind words Species! I hope it’s a nice long battle for the Throne and I hope HBO isn’t writing this story
 
245Fosten
      ID: 144332512
      Mon, May 27, 2019, 20:52
Mitch Keller 3IP 0R 1H 0BB 5K on 44 pitches. Sweet! We do get a mulligan on a kid's 1st inning in the bigs, right?
 
246Blue Hen
      ID: 410452818
      Tue, May 28, 2019, 00:02
Looking for a power hitting outfielder over 30, a stable closer, or a top shelf starting pitcher.
 
247GO
      ID: 14143919
      Tue, May 28, 2019, 17:12
Well well well.. look who added Games Played Maximums to the website. ESPN is doing something afterall!
 
248Species
      SuperDude
      ID: 07724916
      Tue, May 28, 2019, 18:27
Well well well.. look who added Games Played Maximums to the website. ESPN is doing something afterall!

But of course, they do not match up with Guru's tool at all!! Somehow I trust Guru more.....
 
249Meatwads
      ID: 58014310
      Wed, May 29, 2019, 02:45
Called up Touki Toussaint for the second time.
 
250Nerfherders
      ID: 33543714
      Wed, May 29, 2019, 13:26
Now we just need the game log back. (active stats)
 
251Species
      ID: 351051122
      Thu, May 30, 2019, 15:58
Trade Announcement:

Species receives:
Wade Miley
md's 2020 12th round s-pick

mjd receives:
Chris Iannetta
Tosh's 2020 5th round s-pick
 
252mjd
      ID: 10221911
      Thu, May 30, 2019, 16:05
confirmed
 
253Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sat, Jun 01, 2019, 11:11
Re: comparing avg pace numbers that I report vs ESPN's values.

The numbers reflect different time frames.

My numbers shows where you are currently vs where you would be if your pace was exactly on track to hit the max on the last day. So a value of -4 means you are 4 games behind the target pace.

ESPN projects what your total will be if you maintain your current pace for the full season. So, for example, if you are 4 games behind pace (using my measure) and the season is exactly one-third complete, ESPN will report -12. You are essentially on a pace that will end the year 12 games under the limit.

Neither is right or wrong, they just measure your pace "gap" as of different times (now vs season-end).

There is also a slight difference in our measures of completion rate for the full season. I simply divide how many games have been completed through today, and divide that by the total number of games for the full year (for all teams combined). I'm not sure what ESPN uses. Our resulting measures are similar, but not the same. ESPN may pro-rate based on dates, rather than overall GP.
 
254Species
      SuperDude
      ID: 07724916
      Mon, Jun 03, 2019, 13:51
253: It is definitely worth each team's own audit. At one point your tool had me at +4 in my UTIL slot with 61 games played as of that date. However, using Carlos Santana as an example, the Indians only had 103 games remaining when I made that observation, so if Santana played in every remaining game and I made no substitutions, I would have ended with 164 GP in the UTIL slot.

I definitely prefer and appreciate Guru's tool better!

Speaking of which, we are roughly 59 or 60 games into the season, so let's call it 36.4% of the way through:

- The rough pace to meet the minimum amount of GP is 500. Only Tree (495, so barely) and Fosten are below that pace. Great job.

- The rough pace to meet the minimum amount of IP is 437. Tosh (431), Lyman (426) and youngroman (423) are a smidge slow of that pace, but well in reach and easily correctable. Guru (400) and Fosten (393) have time to catch up too.
 
255Species
      SuperDude
      ID: 07724916
      Mon, Jun 03, 2019, 13:57
As I anxiously await Craig Kimbrel to sign anywhere but Minnesota (fingers crossed!), I will have an excess of closers available for trade:

Shane "Superman" Greene
Craig Kimbrel
Wade Davis (hopefully returning from IL shortly)
Blake Parker

......along with Brandon Workman working his way into Boston's closer committee and Brandon Brennan possibly in the mix for Seattle's closer job.

I would probably be most interested in hitting depth, perhaps a starting pitcher who wins games more than once a month, and/or picks.
 
256Nerfherders
      ID: 33543714
      Mon, Jun 03, 2019, 19:05
I have no idea why I have to (dumb Brewers), but I'm sending Hiura back down.
 
257Lyman
      ID: 48842210
      Tue, Jun 04, 2019, 01:55
Envisioning a title run for a team with a grand total 4 points in the SB and SV categories is futile when your best base-stealers are Oscar and Dansby and you don't employ a single relief pitcher. Still got goals to achieve for 2019, but also looking to upgrade for 2020. I have a number of productive bats available in LeMahieu (5th ranked 2B on ESPN), Yandy, Kendrick (8th ranked 2B on ESPN). These are all professional hitters who can be expected to continue being productive and who qualify at two or more positions. I have others, such as Dansby, who might be a trade chip in the right deal.

But the guy I really came here to pimp is Jake Odorizzi. He's throwing his fastball 3-mph faster than years past and seems to be getting more dominant as the season progresses (a whopping 18 K's over his last 11.1 IP). Here's some other nuggets you might not know about Odorizzi:

- 6th in FIP at 2.81 (behind only Scherzer, Ryu, Giolito, Strasburg, Boyd)

- 2nd in MLB with a microscopic 1.96 ERA

- 6th in MLB with a 0.96 WHIP

- 2nd to Verlander in Batting Average Against at .180

- Carries a nifty 9.79 K/9 rate

- His 8 wins rank tied for third in MLB, and I probably don’t need to mention that he’s pitching on the team with the best record in baseball and supported by the top run-scoring offense in baseball. Or that he gets to spend the last 2-thirds of the season feasting on Detroit, KC, ChiSox and Cleveland. That's a recipe for lots of wins and sparkling ratios.

Here's what Razzball had to say about Odorizzi on June 3: He’s a new pitcher from his Rays’ days. Odorizzi working up in the zone, hitting 94-95, which is a big departure from his 91-92 MPH fastball coming into this year. He currently has the 5th most swinging strikes on four-seamers, and all of the top 10 is sexy, and the top two are G. Cole and deGrom. Odorizzi looks like a solid #2.

Hit me up via text or email (text preferred).
 
260Fosten
      ID: 144332512
      Wed, Jun 05, 2019, 22:34
Sending Mitch Keller down for the 1st time.

Super excited that Bob Nutting can buy another ski resort with the money he saved. So happy for him.

I'm confused as to why the Pirates didn't name Keller the 26th Man in the doubleheader last Monday. He wouldn't have been subject to the "10-day rule" clock and would have only accrued 1-day service time. Surely this would have put them safely past the Super Two? Comparing cut-off dates for 2017: It's pretty safe to assume the 2017 super two date will be between 2.120 and 2.140, or 63 and 43 days respectively. Since the season started on April 2, 2017, this puts the super two date to be between: May 13 and June 4. With the 2019 season starting March 20, shouldn't the cut-off be 12 days earlier this year? Why would any team start Rookie Davis on June 7? Am I missing something?
 
261beastiemiked
      ID: 35282121
      Thu, Jun 06, 2019, 12:14
Calling up Tatis jr for then 2nd time.
 
262Species
      SuperDude
      ID: 07724916
      Fri, Jun 07, 2019, 12:13
It's been an interesting year so far. A few managers are getting all Dennis Green and trying to crown my ass, but there is a LONG way to go and a lot that can go wrong.

I looked back at the standings since 2011, and it definitely tells us that you need at least 160 points to win. The only exception during that time (the time we have been on ESPN and the data is available) oddly enough was last year:

2011: Species / blue hen tied at 177.5, followed by 153
2012: Toral 165 followed by 160 and 156
2013 was incredibly competitive! WG 165, followed by 159, 156.5, 154.5 and 152.5
2014: bh 177 followed by 154.5 and 145)
2015: the bh runaway by the end of May: 194 (!) followed by 161 and 148
2016: Species 169, slizz 163 followed by 157 and 146
2017: bh 178, Species 167.5 followed by 159, 154 and 152 (another year with a lot of big scores)
2018: Guru 157.5 followed by 151.5

Given the above, I just told one manager to IGNORE what the leader is doing and focus on getting their team to 150 to 160.....you pretty much have to be there to have a chance.

Best of luck to all teams!
 
263Thumqer
      ID: 39230821
      Fri, Jun 07, 2019, 17:16
Trade Announcement

GO Receives
Lance McCullers, SP, HOU
Thumper’s 2020 5th rd supp pick

Thumper Receives
Jose Quintana, SP, CHI-N
GO’s 2020 11th rd supp pick
 
264GO
      ID: 14143919
      Fri, Jun 07, 2019, 20:55
What he said.
 
265Fosten
      ID: 144332512
      Sat, Jun 08, 2019, 12:50
Trade Announcement
Lyman Receives
SP Zac Gallen, MIA

Fosten Receives
2B DJ LeMahieu, NYY
SP Jake Odorizzi, MIN
 
266Lyman
      ID: 48842210
      Sat, Jun 08, 2019, 13:31
Confirmed
 
267 Tree
      ID: 52516816
      Sat, Jun 08, 2019, 17:16
Buster Posey is on the market.

In this catcher depleted league, he could be a good fit with the right team.

Shawn Kelley is also available. With the way LeClerc imploded again last night, I'm not sure he's prying that closer job away from Kelley anytime soon.

Looking for pieces that will help next year and beyond.
 
268ttucowboy
      ID: 172302717
      Sun, Jun 09, 2019, 08:18
Considering my OF is currently dealing with swollen hands, busted ballsacks, concussions and calf strains, I figure now would be a good time to call up Christin Stewart for a 2nd time.
 
269Thumqer
      ID: 39230821
      Mon, Jun 10, 2019, 13:51
If anyone is looking to cash in on a good SP or OF, I’m still interested in buying.
 
270 GreggoRomans
      ID: 47931312
      Tue, Jun 11, 2019, 22:27
to ttu and Thumqer (and anyone else really), I have OFs that can be had. I also have more than enough Shortstops if anyone needs them.
 
272Blue Hen
      ID: 410452818
      Fri, Jun 14, 2019, 15:59
Looking for a closer, power hitting SS, stud OF, or stud SP, in that order. Youth, p picks and s picks available.
 
274Meatwads
      ID: 43056268
      Sat, Jun 15, 2019, 03:03
I know I already waved the white flag in May, but I take great offense to Blue Hen trying to catch me from behind still.
 
275Thumqer
      ID: 39230821
      Sat, Jun 15, 2019, 10:12
I’m open to trading a closer. Looking for OF or SP, or upgrading at another position
 
276Meatwads
      ID: 545591522
      Sat, Jun 15, 2019, 23:59
Sending Touki Toussaint down for the second time.
 
277Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Jun 17, 2019, 09:00
It’s now obvious that I’m not going to compete for a repeat title this year. So I’m open to offers for pieces that do not figure in my longer term plans.

Bear in mind that I did not say I’m going to blow up this team. I think I still have a viable core of keepers, including Kluber, Hendricks, Doolittle, Rizzo, Lindor, J. Ramirez, and Springer. So it’s unlikely that I’ll be parting with any of them, unless the offer is too good to refuse.

I’ve had several inquiries about Jarrod Dyson, and he is available for anyone looking for steals. He’s currently rated #54 on the ESPN player, rater, so don’t assume he’s simply a one-trick pony. I’m probably looking for one or more supplemental pick upgrades for next year, although I would consider prospect picks as well. I’m not going to throw out a minimum price, and I’m not committed to dealing him if the offers are too low. If you are interested, take you best shot. And don’t assume that I’ll counter if I don’t like your offer.
 
278youngroman
      ID: 15510187
      Tue, Jun 18, 2019, 08:15
In finally found the time and collected active stats in a Google Sheet. data included is until June 16th. I try to regularly update it.

hitter + pitcher: this sums up all stats accumulated by team and player.
monthly: this is the monthly summary by category. monthly is not really a month, 0 = days 1 to 29, 1 = days 30 to 59, 2 = days 60 to 89, ...
weekly: this is the weekly summary by category. weekly is not really a calendar week, 0 = day 1 to 6, 1 = day 7 to 13, 2 = day 14 to 20, ...

I hope this matches some of your demands.

any suggestions?
- I know that the sheets are missing team / owner names. I will try to include them in a future update.
- instead of numbers for month and week, I could include the actual dates and use real months / calendar weeks.
- any more stats to include? I believe I all of them available in a sqlite-database for easy processing.
 
279Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Jun 18, 2019, 09:07
Trade:

Busted Ballsacks (Pete N.) receives Jarrod Dyson

RotoGuru receives Keon Broxton plus the 2020 round 1 supplemental pick from Busted Ballsacks
 
280ttucowboy
      ID: 172302717
      Tue, Jun 18, 2019, 09:12
279 confirmed.

Btw, my current team name is in honor of Mitch Haniger. Once his ruptured testicles have healed, I’ll go back to my regular team name.
 
281Nerfherders
      ID: 305301811
      Tue, Jun 18, 2019, 12:30
Thanks for that spreadsheet, yr!
 
282Khahan
      ID: 80441414
      Wed, Jun 19, 2019, 10:08
Between under performances (really, Aaron Nola is pitching like his brother) and a few injuries along the way I think its time to admit my season is over.
The core of my team: Nola, Hoskins, Ozuna, Chapman are pretty much off the table.

Anybody else is available. I've had a few managers message me about my closers (now closer until Giles gets back off the IL this weekend).
I see what closers are going for, but lets face it - in Giles and Smith both you get early to mid 2000's style closers:
dependable - Neither has somebody lurking to snatch opportunities away.
reliable - Smith is 19/19 Giles 11/12
Fantastic K rates: 44K9/29.2 IP and 42k/25 IP
Ratios that will help make a difference in tight spots: 2.12 and .81 and 1.08 and 1.04


I also have Scooter Gennett coming off the DL for anybody who wants some power from 2nd base. For SP you have your choice of Ross Stripling, Matthew Boyd, Matt Strahm and Steve Matz.

You can text me if you want to discuss, but honestly I do much better if I simply get an offer to consider. If you want the players, make an offer.

I'll take prospects, p-picks and s-picks. I'm also fond of taking on keeper quality players as well.

I do NOT want your throw away guys (you know who I'm talking to), your prospects that fizzled and you hope to move before minimal value turns to no value etc.
 
283youngroman
      ID: 15510187
      Wed, Jun 19, 2019, 11:38
I improved the active stats sheet today. it now also includes team names and real dates instead of days of season. everything is almost automated. I only need to start a script each day to have it updated.

small rant at ESPN: why is your server implementation so lousy? I try to load the stats for 1 day and get a different response in 3 consecutive attempts. WTF? when verifying the stats in the web interface I noticed the same problem that some days had no or wrong stats and after refreshing the page it often shows the correct stats.

this also means, although my data processing is automated I am not verifying the data every day, so the data of the last few days may not be accurate.
 
284 Tree
      ID: 77532019
      Thu, Jun 20, 2019, 15:33
who's on first?

i dunno...

third base!

most of my pitching staff is available for trade.

Urias and Lopez will be harder to pull away from me than others, but Shawn Kelley (the guy *still* closing for Texas) is available, as are Tommy Milone and possibly Marcus Stroman.

I'm mostly looking for prospects, prospect picks, and supplemental picks, but the right player in the right deal could also work...

On the hitter's side, Posey and Aguilar are available.


Leury Garcia and his 49 runs and 7 SBs is available. SS Andrelton Simmons is available.

I'm willing to listen to talk about just about anyone (as evidenced by me moving Aaron Judge), but when you're talking about someone like Joey Gallo, let's remember he doesn't even turn 26 until after the World Series - the same age as some of the prospect we're still waiting to develop.
 
285WG
      ID: 53213822
      Fri, Jun 21, 2019, 10:07
TRADE
WG gets Lance Lynn and mjd 2020 14th
mjd gets WG 2020 6th
 
286mjd
      ID: 10221911
      Fri, Jun 21, 2019, 10:23
confirmed
 
287WG
      ID: 53213822
      Fri, Jun 21, 2019, 10:30
Deivi Garcia on the trade block.
 
288Blue Hen
      ID: 410452818
      Fri, Jun 21, 2019, 15:05
Trade:

Roman gets Brian Johnson and BH 5th
BH gets Cole Hamels and Roman 9th
 
289Blue Hen
      ID: 410452818
      Fri, Jun 21, 2019, 21:58
Compliments to Roman. Trading with him is easy. Also he’s amazing with the spreadsheets.

Still looking for a closer- let me know if you have one to deal.
 
290GO
      ID: 14143919
      Fri, Jun 21, 2019, 21:58
Love how on ESPN things dont always add up correctly on my team page. Really gives me a lot of confidence in the scoring.
 
291 WG
      ID: 53213822
      Sun, Jun 23, 2019, 18:19
Frankie Montas on the trade block.

 
292Blue Hen
      ID: 410452818
      Sun, Jun 23, 2019, 22:41
Looking to deal off some of my youth for closers or power hitters.

- JP Crawford, once touted, 24 year old SS with a .913 OPS in June
- Alex Verdugo, 23, now part of Dodgers walk off history
- Kevin Newman, 23, once Keith Law’s #14 prospect, hitting for average and stealing bases
- Bobby Bradley, 23, led 3 different minor leagues in homers and has 22 this year, just called up and should stick in ailing Cleveland
- Zack Collins, compared to Kyle Schwarber as a catcher, power and a ton of walks
- Delino Deshields, walks machine at .363 and steals a lot of bases
- Yusei Kikuchi, still only 28, took Ohtani’s mantle as the best pitcher in Japan last year
- Jose Peraza, hit 14 homers and stole 20 bases in half a season last year
- Ryan Pressly, yep, that’s a 1.31 ERA

Let me know if you have older power or RP to offer up
 
293beastiemiked
      ID: 35282121
      Mon, Jun 24, 2019, 11:27
Pederson Trade:

Species gets bmd’s 2020 13th round Supp pick.
Bmd gets Species 2020 5th round Supp pick.
Bmd gets Species 2020 4th round Prospect pick.
 
294Species
      ID: 351051122
      Mon, Jun 24, 2019, 11:32
Confirmed.
 
295Khahan
      ID: 80441414
      Mon, Jun 24, 2019, 12:11
John Gant can be had for a song. Fill in closer with the potential to close the rest of the season if Hicks tricep issues are worse than light tendonitis.
 
296GO
      ID: 14143919
      Mon, Jun 24, 2019, 20:37
Anyone want Todd Frazier for an OF? He homered every other day this week... on my bench.
 
298Khahan
      ID: 80441414
      Tue, Jun 25, 2019, 12:22
Trade alerts

Khahan sends Matthew Boyd to Busted Ballsacks. No draft picks involved. This is obviously about this year for Pete and next and year and beyond for me


Khahan sends John Gant and his 14th round 2020 pick to Amit

Amit sends his 5th round 2020 pick to Khahan
 
299WG
      Donor
      ID: 35338278
      Tue, Jun 25, 2019, 13:54
Confirmed
 
300Khahan
      ID: 80441414
      Tue, Jun 25, 2019, 16:16
For the people asking about Giles and Smith - simply put make your best offer. I have a few discussions going on. Rather than playing people off against each other, just send me your best off and I'm likely to take the best of the bunch. Looking to move one or both before the end of the day Wednesday. Picks (p and/or s) are best at this point unless you are having me package to upgrade one of my keepers.
 
301ttucowboy
      ID: 555222516
      Tue, Jun 25, 2019, 17:22
Sending Christin Stewart back down to the minors.
 
302Khahan
      ID: 367431722
      Wed, Jun 26, 2019, 21:05
Trade Alert
Khahan Sends Ken Giles and Will Smith to BH
along with his lowest supplemental pick

BH sends Khahan
His 2020 round 1 prospect pick and his 2020 round 5 supplemental pick.
 
303beastiemiked
      ID: 35282121
      Wed, Jun 26, 2019, 22:59
Didn’t Bh already trade his 5th?
 
304Blue Hen
      ID: 410452818
      Wed, Jun 26, 2019, 23:01
In the Hamels deal, yes. Stay tuned.
 
305Khahan
      ID: 367431722
      Wed, Jun 26, 2019, 23:03
Trade Update
Khahan Sends Ken Giles and Will Smith to BH
along with his lowest supplemental pick

BH sends Khahan
His 2020 round 1 prospect pick and his 2020 round 4 supplemental pick.
 
306Blue Hen
      ID: 410452818
      Wed, Jun 26, 2019, 23:03
Updated to be BH 4th. My fault!
 
307Blue Hen
      ID: 410452818
      Wed, Jun 26, 2019, 23:12
Jose Leclerc available for a pick or hitter upgrade.
 
308Khahan
      ID: 80441414
      Thu, Jun 27, 2019, 11:54
Scooter Gennett is due to come off the DL and is available.
 
309GO
      ID: 14143919
      Thu, Jun 27, 2019, 12:19
Arrieta for sale... Marlins this weekend...
 
310Meatwads
      ID: 43056268
      Thu, Jun 27, 2019, 12:30
Trade Annoucement

WG acquires :
Nelson Cruz, DH, MIN
Kevin Kiermaier, OF, TB
2020 - 9th round supp pick

Meatwads acquire :
Carlos Carrasco, SP, CLE
Kyle Garlick, OF, LAD
2020 - 14th round supp pick


 
311Nerfherders
      ID: 305301811
      Thu, Jun 27, 2019, 13:14
I'm fading fast. The injury bug has hit full force and Snell has reverted to 2017 form. It would be nice if three of my hitters weren't being held back by roster crunches
 
312WG
      Donor
      ID: 35338278
      Thu, Jun 27, 2019, 13:53
Confirmed
 
313WG
      Donor
      ID: 35338278
      Thu, Jun 27, 2019, 13:55
TRADE

WG gets Marcus Stroman and Shawn Kelley
Tree gets Frankie Montas, Aaron Bummer, and Meat’s 2020 9
 
314 Gregg Curry
      ID: 38855205
      Thu, Jun 27, 2019, 15:15
Carlos Martinez -- the new Cardinals closer -- is available for a good return. I am happy to keep him at his age/skillset/pedigree. So, please don't lowball me here. Thanks.
 
315Blue Hen
      ID: 410452818
      Thu, Jun 27, 2019, 23:49
Updating previous posts, these players are available: Jose Leclerc, Yusei Kikuchi, JP Crawford, Kevin Newman. Looking for picks, upgrades, or potential 10th keeps.
 
316 ttucowboy
      ID: 555222516
      Fri, Jun 28, 2019, 08:21
Giancarlo Stanton is on the block. If I need to sell you on Stanton, we’re more than likely not a fit right off the bat. I’m not hellbent on trading him. He is, after all, still one of the premier sluggers in the league. More trying to gauge what level of interest there is. Fire away if interested.
 
317Tree
      ID: 77532019
      Fri, Jun 28, 2019, 12:22
confirmed
 
318Nerfherders
      ID: 2211442615
      Sat, Jun 29, 2019, 11:49
Calling up Hiura for the second time
 
319Fosten
      ID: 12638110
      Mon, Jul 01, 2019, 11:43
In the midst of a 5-game hitting streak, calling up Danny Jansen for the 1st time.
 
320Thumqer
      ID: 39230821
      Mon, Jul 08, 2019, 16:21
Let’s go Home Run derby Thumpers Bregman, Bell, and Acuna!

These homers count toward our season totals, right?
 
321ttucowboy
      ID: 069817
      Mon, Jul 08, 2019, 18:09
Let’s go PETE Alonso. All Pete’s are winners in my book.
 
322Thumqer
      ID: 39230821
      Wed, Jul 10, 2019, 14:36
4th of July and All Star fireworks aren’t over yet!

Trade Announcement

GO Receives
Aaron Judge, NYY, OF
Spencer Turnbull, DET, SP
Thumper’s 2020 s2

Thumper Receives
Nolan Arenado, 3B, COL
Jurickson Profar, every position, OAK
GO’s 2020 p1

GO to confirm
 
323GO
      ID: 14143919
      Wed, Jul 10, 2019, 14:39
Sure, why not. Judge for sale!
 
324Thumqer
      ID: 39230821
      Wed, Jul 10, 2019, 15:03
Segura is available, looking for a comparable OF
 
325Lyman
      ID: 206491223
      Sat, Jul 13, 2019, 00:49
Calling up Nate Lowe for the first time. Stay hot, kid!
 
326Lyman
      ID: 206491223
      Sat, Jul 13, 2019, 02:02
Anybody with an available 2020 5th round prospect pick interested in acquiring 1B/3B Yandy Diaz? Text me if you already have my number or email me at stanfrank@yahoo.com or thru the league homepage.
 
327Slizz
      ID: 53336714
      Sat, Jul 13, 2019, 15:09
Trade is straight up
 
328Nerfherders
      ID: 305301811
      Fri, Jul 19, 2019, 16:05
I'm looking to package Wil Myers and Clint Frazier for a SP. Two good OF's that are getting the playing-time shaft right now, but could be good for next year, or perhaps even after the trade deadline.
 
329 Tree
      ID: 77532019
      Sat, Jul 20, 2019, 15:04
looking to make some moves, mostly wanting to acquire picks.

Jesus Aguilar (finally coming around), Adam Frazier (HOT and 2b/OF eligibility), Brian anderson (3b/OF eligibility), Leury Garcia (SS/OF and big time run scorer), Brian Reynolds (on base machine and a solid potential keeper), and most pitchers are available.
 
330Nerfherders
      ID: 305301811
      Mon, Jul 22, 2019, 12:07
Myers for Quintana, straight up.

I'm still taking offers on Frazier. Looking more now for a usable hitter.
 
331WG
      Donor
      ID: 35338278
      Tue, Jul 23, 2019, 11:52
WG gets Yuli Gurriel and 9
Mjd gets Freddy Galvis and 3

Both next year picks
 
332mjd
      ID: 10221911
      Tue, Jul 23, 2019, 11:53
confirmed
 
333Blue Hen
      ID: 410452818
      Wed, Jul 24, 2019, 17:24
Looking to trade wunderkind Alex Verdugo for a power hitting non keeper outfielder who walks.
 
334GO
      ID: 14143919
      Thu, Jul 25, 2019, 10:43
Last time you traded a good young bat like him it was a Devers for Paxton and the league wanted to veto our trade.

I see the 22 year old Devers is up to #12 overall on ESPN dynasty rankings... see kids! Blue Hen can help you!
 
335ttucowboy
      ID: 356432512
      Thu, Jul 25, 2019, 13:43
334: Except me! I said you knew what you were doing and that Devers would beast it. Just saying lol
 
336GO
      ID: 14143919
      Thu, Jul 25, 2019, 14:29
Pete – a lone supportive voice in a dark dark world! some highlights include...

Species admitted he was biased negatively, so wanted opinions before vetoing

BMD - GO got robbed
Tree - jaw dropped to floor, insane amount to pay
WG agreed
Guru - seems lopsided
Slizz admitted i paid the BH tax, but ok with overpaying

This is why you don’t veto deals unless there is collusion. Because you have no idea. Devers is still only 22 incredibly... and Paxton is 30 and still never healthy.

Now if some of my other not so great deals had actually been vetoed maybe i would be do even better. Just never know.
 
337beastiemiked
      ID: 35282121
      Thu, Jul 25, 2019, 15:15
GO that trade wasn’t straight up. Bh also got 2 1st round prospect picks that he completely botched(though he did shuttle Rutherford off for some value). I’m sure he considered those picks more valuable than Paxton.

That trade would’ve been much different if he would’ve drafted Acuna and Soto(both were available at 1.06 and Soto was available at 1.14).

Did anyone say that trade should be vetoed?
 
338GO
      ID: 14143919
      Thu, Jul 25, 2019, 15:46
Devers would have been 1.01 if eligible to draft (was already prospected). So trading 1.06 and 1.16 to get up to the 1.01 seemed pretty reasonable to me.

Especially as Paxton was literally a free agent prior September that I randomly stashed. But oddly it was his being valuable that people were hung up on for some reason. They did t want BH adding another "elite" (?) pitcher.
 
339WG
      Donor
      ID: 35338278
      Thu, Jul 25, 2019, 16:59
I don’t think collusion is a real issue or concern, so what’s the purpose of the 24 hour review then? If not for us to express the types of reactions we did? If spotting collusion is the only purpose, and that has not and will not ever happen, can we just make trades go through instantly? In the very unlikely event collusion is discovered (though I’m not sure how we would know), the Commish can always reverse the trade.
 
340GO
      ID: 14143919
      Thu, Jul 25, 2019, 20:48
I am all for trades going through immediately... although ESPN 24 hours is fairly tolerable vs. default settings in other leagues i have been in.
 
341 beastiemiked
      ID: 35282121
      Thu, Jul 25, 2019, 23:46
Looking to deal some potential keeper hitters. Mainly looking towards next year but may be interested in pieces for this year.

Hunter Dozier .370 obp 16 hrs 1b/3b
Marcus Semien .350 obp 15 hrs 6 sb 72 runs
Daniel Murphy .340 obp 10 hrs, heating up 1b/3b
Franmil Reyes 25 hrs just turned 24
Ryan McMahon .330 obp 11 hrs 1b/2b
Cavan Biggio .342 obp 6 hrs 6 sb


 
342Nerfherders
      ID: 2211442615
      Sat, Jul 27, 2019, 15:19
I'm still looking to trade Frazier, but now back to needing a SP.
 
343Meatwads
      ID: 43056268
      Sun, Jul 28, 2019, 03:29
TRADE ANNOUNCEMENT

Thumper trades :
Hector Neris, RP, PHI
Jean Segura, SS, PHI
Luke Jackson, RP, ATL
Joey Lucchesi, SP, SD
2020 - 10th round supp pick
2020 - 11th round supp pick
2020 - 11th round supp pick (via GO)

Meatwads trade :
James McCann, C, CHW
Chris Bassitt, SP, OAK
Danny Salazar, SP, CLE
Pedro Payano, SP, TEX
2020 - 2nd round supp pick
2020 - 4th round supp pick
2020 - 6th round supp pick
 
344Thumqer
      ID: 39230821
      Sun, Jul 28, 2019, 08:37
Just a tweak to the picks I’m sending back, it should be “Thumper’s last 3 supplemental picks” which I believe are
GO’s 14th round pick (3/15/19 s swap trade)
GO’s 13th round pick (July 10 Arenado/Judge Trade, which we forgot to mention the his last rounder for my 2nd supp pick originally...)
Thumper’s 11th supp pick

I traded my own 14th twice already to GO (3/15/18) and Greggo (2/22/19) so I suppose the later trade with Greggo should be my last s pick I had before this trade which is my 12th.

Otherwise confirmed. I’m sorry for the mess that I am.
 
345Species
      SuperDude
      ID: 07724916
      Sun, Jul 28, 2019, 11:10
Interesting trade boys!

I am just catching up on the Constitution. I changed jobs so been very busy....some questions:

- Guru / ttucowboy trade on June 18th did NOT note a return s-pick to ttucowboy. Purposeful or oversight?

- Tree / WG trade on June 27th did not note a return s-pick to WG.

- Thumper / GO trade on July 10th did not note a return s-pick to GO.

It's common for p-picks to not have a return, but not so common in s-pick trades. Up to you guys.....but technically all trades are "final" upon confirmation on the board. However, upon mutual agreement you can correct the trade after the fact, but the team who originally did not give up a return pick is under no obligation to do so. Of course, they would likely end up forfeiting a pick eventually anyway, so they might as well.
 
346Species
      SuperDude
      ID: 07724916
      Sun, Jul 28, 2019, 11:20
Trade Announcement:

Species receives:

Jon Lester
youngroman's 2020 10th

youngroman receives:

Kyle Crick
Species' 2020 6th
 
347GO
      ID: 14143919
      Sun, Jul 28, 2019, 12:12
13th for Judge/Arenado deal...
 
348Species
      SuperDude
      ID: 07724916
      Sun, Jul 28, 2019, 13:56
Trade Announcement:

Species receives:

Jeff Samardzija
Lyman's 2020 9th

Lyman receives:

Chad Green
GO's 2020 6th (via Species)
 
349Lyman
      ID: 2910361920
      Sun, Jul 28, 2019, 20:45
Confirmed
 
350 beastiemiked
      ID: 35282121
      Mon, Jul 29, 2019, 21:09
Daniel Murphy available for a 4th round supp pick. 1b/2b eligible.

Semien available for a 3rd round supp pick.

Hunter Dozier available for 3rd round supp pick. 1b/3b eligible.

 
351Thumqer
      ID: 39230821
      Thu, Aug 01, 2019, 11:38
Trade Revision Announcement! Meatwads and I revised the Neris, etc. deal since he already traded his 2nd round pick. The trade should now be:

Thumper trades :
Hector Neris, RP, PHI
Jean Segura, SS, PHI
Luke Jackson, RP, ATL
Joey Lucchesi, SP, SD
Thumper’s last 2 2020 supplemental picks
2021 - Thumper’s 14th round supp pick

Meatwads trade :
James McCann, C, CHW
Chris Bassitt, SP, OAK
Danny Salazar, SP, CLE
Pedro Payano, SP, TEX
2021 - 2nd round supp pick
2020 - 4th round supp pick
2020 - 6th round supp pick

Meatwads to confirm
 
352Meatwads
      ID: 43056268
      Thu, Aug 01, 2019, 11:47
Confirmed.

It's no secret at this point that I'm trying to make a run at Species. I need the most help in ERA and SV. If anyone has a closer they are willing to trade, I'm buying. I'm also in the market for general quality depth, but my main focus is acquiring enough saves to make it interesting. Emails or texts are welcome to anyone who wants to discuss.
 
353Meatwads
      ID: 43056268
      Thu, Aug 01, 2019, 15:41
TRADE ANNOUNCEMENT

Fosten trades
Brad Hand, RP, CLE
Jake Odorizzi, SP, MIN
Nathan Eovaldi, RP, BOS
2020 - 13th round supp pick
2021 - 11th round supp pick
2021 - 12th round supp pick

Meatwads trade
Touki Toussaint, SP, ATL (p)
Luke Jackson, RP, ATL
Zach Plesac, SP, CLE
Amir Garrett, RP, CIN
2020 - 1st round supp pick
2021 - 6th round supp pick
2021 - 7th round supp pick
 
354Fosten
      ID: 135162321
      Thu, Aug 01, 2019, 15:43
Confirm.
 
355Meatwads
      ID: 43056268
      Thu, Aug 01, 2019, 17:41
TRADE ANNOUNCEMENT

Bmd trades :
Hunter Dozier, 1B/3B, KC
2020 - 12th round supp pick

Meatwads trade :
Luke Weaver, SP, ARI
2020 - 3rd round supp pick
 
356Thumqer
      ID: 39230821
      Thu, Aug 01, 2019, 18:47
Great news, Jameson Taillon won’t need TJ! His elbow flexor procedure will knock him out for 7-9 months with a realistic return of May 2020. Now that we know when to expect him back, he’s on the trade block. I’m looking for an asset that will also help me in 2020 and/or beyond in whatever form that takes (player, prospect, picks).

Let me know if interested! He’s an excellent upside buy.
 
357beastiemiked
      ID: 35282121
      Thu, Aug 01, 2019, 20:24
Confirm.
 
358 Meatwads
      ID: 43056268
      Fri, Aug 02, 2019, 13:35
Trade Block Update

I'm taking serious offers for this package...
Shane Bieber, SP, CLE
2020 - Greggo's 1st round prospect pick (#1 overall?)
2021 - 1st round supplemental pick

- I've had several of you reach out about Bieber and the potential #1 overall prospect pick next season, at various times. I've already had in-depth talks with one manager about the package listed above.

- I fully intend on keeping these pieces until the offseason, unless I'm made an offer that surpasses my expectations. I'm looking for an elite keeper, closers and any other secondary pieces that have future trade value. I'm selling to the highest bidder, if it reaches my minimum bid.
 
359Fosten
      ID: 135162321
      Fri, Aug 02, 2019, 15:59
Trade Announcement
WG Receives
J.P. Crawford, SS, SEA
WG’s 2020 9th round s-pick

Fosten Receives
Yonny Chirinos, SP/RP, TB
Fosten’s 2020 14th round s-pick
 
360Thumqer
      ID: 39230821
      Fri, Aug 02, 2019, 20:04
Trade Announcement

Meatwads Trades
Shane Bieber, SP, CLE
Asher Wojciechowski, SP, BAL
Ryan Yarbrough, SP, TB
Meatwads 2020 1st round p pick
Meatwads 2020 5th round supp pick

Thumper Trades
Josh Bell, 1B, PIT
Roberto Osuna, RP, HOU
Niko Goodrum, INF, DET
Thumper’s last 2020 supplemental pick

Meatwads to confirm.
 
361Meatwads
      ID: 43056268
      Fri, Aug 02, 2019, 20:08
Confirmed.
 
362ttucowboy
      ID: 8748222
      Fri, Aug 02, 2019, 23:48
Cruz/Minor deal with WG includes my 2020 P2 and 2020 S7. WG to confirm
 
363WG
      Donor
      ID: 35338278
      Sat, Aug 03, 2019, 00:03
Confirmed
 
364ttucowboy
      ID: 8748222
      Sat, Aug 03, 2019, 00:50
Will Smith deal with BH includes my 2021 P2 and 2020 S4. BH to confirm.
 
365Blue Hen
      ID: 410452818
      Sat, Aug 03, 2019, 00:53
Confirmed
 
366Species
      ID: 351051122
      Sat, Aug 03, 2019, 12:00
TRADE ANNOUNCEMENT

Slizz Trades
Anthony Rendon, 3B, WSH
Taylor Rogers, RP, MIN
David Peralta, OF, ARI
2020 7th

Species Trades
Victor Robles, OF, WSH
Nick Senzel, 2B/OF, CIN
Pablo Sandoval, 1B/3B, SF
2020 4th
 
367Slizz
      ID: 53336714
      Sat, Aug 03, 2019, 12:58
Confirmed
 
368 Slizz
      ID: 53336714
      Sat, Aug 03, 2019, 21:12
Looking to move NOMAR MAZARA (just turned 24 this season) for a 1B or SP...

Hit me up via text or email!
 
369Slizz
      ID: 53336714
      Sat, Aug 03, 2019, 22:57
TRADE ANNOUNCEMENT

Slizz trades
Nomar Mazara, OF, TEX

Khahan trades
Aaron Sanchez, SP, HOU

No picks.
 
370Species
      SuperDude
      ID: 07724916
      Sun, Aug 04, 2019, 13:00
359 Fosten
ID: 135162321
Fri, Aug 02, 2019, 15:59 Trade Announcement
WG Receives
J.P. Crawford, SS, SEA
WG’s 2020 9th round s-pick

Fosten Receives
Yonny Chirinos, SP/RP, TB
Fosten’s 2020 14th round s-pick

---------------------

Does Fosten receive WG's 14th?
And WG receive Fosten's 9th?

Or does Fosten get WG's 9th and WG Fosten's 14th?
 
371Fosten
      ID: 135162321
      Sun, Aug 04, 2019, 17:46
WG receives WG's 9th and Fosten receives Fosten's 14th.
These picks were previously swapped in the Knebel trade.
And now returned to their original owner in the Yonny trade.
 
372Lyman
      ID: 206491223
      Sun, Aug 04, 2019, 23:22
Demoting Nate Lowe for first time.
 
373Meatwads
      ID: 43056268
      Mon, Aug 05, 2019, 00:57
Trade Announcement

Meatwads trade :
Hunter Dozier, 1B/3B, KC
Luis Garcia, INF, WSH (p)

Greggo Romans trade :
Carlos Martinez, SP/RP, STL
George Valera, OF, CLE (p)
 
374 GreggoRomans
      ID: 47931312
      Mon, Aug 05, 2019, 00:57
confirm
 
375WG
      Donor
      ID: 35338278
      Mon, Aug 05, 2019, 08:37
...
 
376Khahan
      ID: 55718511
      Mon, Aug 05, 2019, 12:18
Power and obp available at first base. Taking offers on Justin smoak. Best to send offers thru site as I’m in myrtle beach and wont always be available to text back this week.
 
377Meatwads
      ID: 43056268
      Tue, Aug 06, 2019, 12:53
Trade Announcement

Blue Hen trades :
Jose LeClerc, RP, TEX
2021 - Last supp pick

Meatwads trades :
Reyes Moronta, RP, SF
2021 - 3rd round supp pick
 
378Blue Hen
      ID: 410452818
      Tue, Aug 06, 2019, 12:56
Confirmed. Are you worried about Meat passing you in saves? I’m looking to deal Giles, Givens, Kintzler, Pressly, Wittgren, Moronta, and Eckersley. Let me me know.
 
379ttucowboy
      ID: 8748222
      Tue, Aug 06, 2019, 13:28
Add to 362:

WG trades ttucowboy his last available 2020 S pick. Full breakdown:

ttucowboy receives:

Nelson Cruz
Mike Minor
Last available 2020 S pick

Wg receives:

2020 P2
2020 S7
 
380ttucowboy
      ID: 8748222
      Tue, Aug 06, 2019, 13:31
Add to 364:

BH trades ttucowboy his last available S pick. Full breakdown:

ttucowboy receives:

Will Smith
Last available 2020 S pick

Bh receives:

2020 S4
2021 P2
 
381GO
      ID: 14143919
      Tue, Aug 06, 2019, 20:08
Thanks Yahoo for letting me take out guys from a PPD game. FU ESPN.
 
382Tree
      ID: 217372011
      Wed, Aug 07, 2019, 08:22
Calling up Bo Knows Bichette for the first time...
 
383Blue Hen
      ID: 410452818
      Thu, Aug 08, 2019, 00:53
Cole Hamels on the block, for a pick.
 
384 GreggoRomans
      ID: 47931312
      Fri, Aug 09, 2019, 02:53
calling up yordan alvarez for the first time.
 
385Slizz
      ID: 53336714
      Fri, Aug 09, 2019, 11:07
 
386Fosten
      ID: 135162321
      Fri, Aug 09, 2019, 12:00
Munson Mobsters August Sales Flyer
  • C Danny Jansen - Already woke up, no longer a sleeper.
  • UTIL Ryan Mountcastle - #1 1B prospect in baseball.
  • UTIL Scott Kingery - .341 OBP, on-pace for 20+ HR, untapped 70 FV speed.
  • OF Justin Upton - All systems go for annual Upton August HR binge.
  • OF Gregory Polanco - Needs to find a health pack, so he can level up.
  • OF Mallex Smith - Mallex be nimble. Mallex be quick. Mallex helps you jump over teams in the standings like a pogo stick!
 
387 Gregg Curry
      ID: 38855205
      Fri, Aug 09, 2019, 16:58
Ole Keith Law never did get Yordan in his Top 50 Prospects. HAW HAW. Best move I have made in this league was getting him.
 
388Lyman
      ID: 2910361920
      Fri, Aug 09, 2019, 22:36
For the record, I am a proponent of setting games played and innings pitched minimums. That being said, I am finding both the respective 1375 and 1200 minimums to be quite high in a league 20 teams deep. I'm not sure I'm going to achieve either number and I've been working my arse off in this league all season. Streaming starting pitchers is not that helpful because whatever dreck is available on the waiver wire is likely going no more than 5 innings. And, of course, that comes with the likelihood of crushed ratios. And go to the waiver wire and see if you can find a starting first baseman, or any infielder really, when yours goes down with injury. Not easy to do in a 20-team league. I think these minimums need to be adjusted so that they are more achievable.
 
389Meatwads
      ID: 43056268
      Sat, Aug 10, 2019, 03:25
Trade Block Update

Hitters
J.D. Davis, 3B/OF, NYM
George Valera, OF, CLE (p)
Jean Segura, SS, PHI
Will Smith, C, LAD
Niko Goodrum, 1B/2B/SS/OF, DET
Jose Martinez, 1B/OF, STL
Renato Nunez, 1B/3B, BAL
Jason Heyward, OF, CHC

Pitchers
Carlos Carrasco, SP, CLE
Jake Odorizzi, SP, MIN
Joey Lucchesi, SP, SD
Andres Munoz, RP, SD
Nathan Eovaldi, SP/RP, BOS

I'm interested in adding a couple more closers. I also have supp picks and prospect picks available.
 
390Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sat, Aug 10, 2019, 13:38
[388] Lyman, you are currently on pace for 1265 IP and 1417 GP. Doesn't seem like you are having any problem.

Especially with the IL available this year to keep injured keepers from blocking an active roster slot, I don't really think the minimums are difficult to achieve. 1375 GP is just an average of 152 GP per slot.

As of today, only three teams are behind pace in IP (and one of those is only 10 IP behind pace). And no teams are materially behind pace in GP, other than perhaps Darkside, who is in 7th place so it really has no impact.
 
391GO
      ID: 14143919
      Sat, Aug 10, 2019, 15:28
I would like to get some of these guys but corner infield all clogged up... after recently starting Fanduel have we ever considered flexing the C slot to a C/1B? Is that even possible?
 
392Nerfherders
      ID: 2211442615
      Sat, Aug 10, 2019, 15:41
The IL hasn't been very much use to me this year. Until Snell, the guys Ive had injured have either been draft picks I can't give up (Lowe), or FA's having good years (Pence). Then, poor Frazier isn't on an active roster but he's not hurt, so he rots on the bench also.
 
393ttucowboy
      ID: 407531012
      Sat, Aug 10, 2019, 17:01
Considering my keepers have had a grand total of zero days all healthy this year, I’ve had quite a bit of experience with the IL. Nice change for sure. Also, I don’t see it as very difficult to hit the minimums, especially with the addition of the IL slots. Add in the first demerit being forgiven and I think we’re in a good spot there.

This has turned into a two team race and it’s important everyone stay engaged (at least to the point of fielding a competent lineup). Every stat counts! I can’t wait to flush this season down the toilet, but I’m still checking daily to make sure I’m fielding an active lineup. I think that’s a reasonable expectation and if you’re doing that consistently, you should have no problems hitting the minimums.
 
394 GreggoRomans
      ID: 47931312
      Sun, Aug 11, 2019, 03:04
AGREE WITH LYMAN IN POST 388.
 
395 GreggoRomans
      ID: 47931312
      Sun, Aug 11, 2019, 03:23
Oops. Didn't mean to shout. In his first start as a Roman, Yordan Alvarez (who again, never made Keith Law's, Top 100 minor leaguers) had this line score: 5 AB, 4 R, 3 HR, 7 RBI, and 1 BB. He also set the MLB record for rbi by a player in his first 45 games with 51, breaking Ted Williams' record of 47. His 20 HR in his first 45 games played is pretty decent too. With every passing day, it seems more evident that maybe I didn't "lose" that deal I took so much heat for back in March. Haven't had a lot to cheer about this year. Maybe that will change next year. For now, I will end my excited rant about Yordan and resume looking at how firmly I am situated at the bottom of the pack.
 
396ttucowboy
      ID: 407531012
      Sun, Aug 11, 2019, 12:52
Greggo — Ok, I’ll bite. You’re missing the original point. It was still an overpay. You overpaid for the upside and it’s paying off in spades. Happy for ya! You could’ve and should’ve been able to acquire Yordan though for a substantially lower cost (i.e. NOT including your 1st round prospect pick which is the odds on favorite to be the #1 pick). Imagine having Yordan and still having that pick.

Also, I guarantee you bh wouldn’t make the same trade today. Why you may ask? Because even BH, Yordan’s original pimp, didn’t think he’d be this good this fast. Values change and Yordan’s value is definitely substantially higher now than at the time of that trade.

One final thing I’ll say. If you recall, I made it a point to say the trade shouldn’t be vetoed. I’m glad the trade has worked out for you and you’ll never see me request a trade be vetoed unless there is cheating involved which is a whole different story. Managers having different values is part of what makes it fun.
 
397Species
      ID: 351051122
      Sun, Aug 11, 2019, 21:52
Hamels trade includes Species' 2021 5th for bh's 2021 9th
 
398 beastiemiked
      ID: 35282121
      Sun, Aug 11, 2019, 22:23
If anyone is interested in Alex Reyes, send me an offer. Looking for 2020 or 2021 pick upgrades(supp or prospect).
 
399Blue Hen
      ID: 410452818
      Mon, Aug 12, 2019, 00:02
Confirming Hamels. Happy to have traded with all 3 contenders in the last two weeks.
 
400Tree
      ID: 77532019
      Mon, Aug 12, 2019, 14:47
agree with Greggo and Lymon on minimums. every day i'm combing the free agent pool in hopes of the player(s) i pick up with make it through 5 innings, which most don't.

the game has changed. individual pitchers are pitching less and less.

Shane Bieber leads the league with 3 CGs.

there have been 26 all season - that's the combined number of CGs from Scott Erickson and Curt Schilling when they lead their respective leagues in 1998, 21 years ago.

in the last 20 years, two pitchers have thrown for double digit complete games.

In 2005, there were 50 major league pitchers that threw 200 innings. In 2010, there were 45. In 2015, there were 28.

In 2016 and in 2017, there were 15 each season.

Last year, there were 12, and four of those were less than 201 IP.

the game is changing. we should too.
 
401beastiemiked
      ID: 35282121
      Mon, Aug 12, 2019, 22:25
Minimums are easy to make. I don’t know why it’s an issue. It sometimes forces you to cut someone you’d rather roster but it at least forces bottom teams to make adds/drops. Before minimums we had half the league check out after the all star break.

I’ve always been an advocate of penalizing the bottom 3 teams. Make those teams at the bottom not want to be at the bottom.
 
402Lyman
      ID: 206491223
      Tue, Aug 13, 2019, 03:36
To be clear, I wasn't suggesting we drop the minimums of 1200 and 1375 to 400 and 675. Carry on.
 
403Tree
      ID: 77532019
      Tue, Aug 13, 2019, 09:09
To be clear, I wasn't suggesting we drop the minimums of 1200 and 1375 to 400 and 675. Carry on.

LOL. amen.
 
404Meatwads
      ID: 43056268
      Tue, Aug 13, 2019, 23:37
Trade Announcement

Meatwads trade :
Jose Martinez, 1B/OF, STL
2020 - Greggo's 5th round supp pick

ttu cowboy trades :
Ian Kennedy, SP/RP, KC
2020 - Last supp pick
 
405ttucowboy
      ID: 407531012
      Tue, Aug 13, 2019, 23:39
Confirmed
 
406Thumqer
      ID: 39230821
      Wed, Aug 14, 2019, 16:41
Tossing an idea out there... what are some thoughts on adding a Tommy John or Long Term Injury (ACL tear) spot? I’m thinking they could just be a list of keepers or prospects who undergo some long term injury and could be part of their own special roster. Pre-requisite would have to be they were kept or drafted/held as a prospect and there would be like a 1 player per team limit.

I bring this up because we see this a lot these days. Someone had to drop Lance McCullers last year, I gave the kitchen sink for Taillon and now he needs TJ, it could be a real franchise changer as it’s not realistic to use a keeper spot and IL spot to hold otherwise super valuable assets. I traded for Dinelson Lamet (thanks GO) last year and a day later he needed TJ, although the wasn’t a keeper. I just feel like everyone probably has a scenario where this has happened to them and it’d be nice to have some sort of redemption for losing such guys.

Thoughts?
 
407beastiemiked
      ID: 35282121
      Wed, Aug 14, 2019, 21:46
I think it just makes the rich richer. Teams competing usually need 100% roster utility so they won’t keep a guy out for a year. Teams near the bottom can keep them without much downside(unless they keep multiple and can’t meet the minimums). Parity is good so I’d be against a rule that would help the best teams.
 
408Tree
      ID: 217372011
      Thu, Aug 15, 2019, 02:14
Minimums are easy to make...

LOL
 
409beastiemiked
      ID: 35282121
      Thu, Aug 15, 2019, 12:16
They were easy to make last year and now that we have three IL spots they are really easy to make. We even lowered SP max limits too so that should help in September when managers start approaching those.

Don’t hold dead weight(non keeper injured players, minor league players that aren’t superstars, guys rehabbing that aren’t that special, utility guys that don’t play everyday, etc). The minimums force you to occasionally drop a player that may have some long term hold value but that’s part of the fun of it. Even the best managers are tossing 60% of the players back into the draft pool.

Lyman and you both are holding players that could easily be tossed back into the player pool. Use those spots to generate ip’s and gp’s. Injuries suck but they are part of the game. No one forced you to trade for Montas or hold Burnes. The minimums were in place long before that.

Ultimately this is a keeper league, not a dynasty league. Roster turnover is part of this league. Dropping a superstar happens. We all have several superstars that were on our teams that we either dropped or we decided not to keep. That’s what makes it fun.

Even if you disagree with everything I said, no rules are changing this year. Propose one in the offseason and vote on it.
 
410Khahan
      ID: 367431722
      Thu, Aug 15, 2019, 13:09
BMD - You say IP minimums are easy to get. I posted this during the discussion the other year and its worth revisiting:

So many people claim, "It can be done." And yes, it can be. But I say, "it cannot be done by all."
We have 30 major league teams. 5 out of 7 days a week all 30 play. If we start 1 pitcher a day, using the math from 455*, we have an average of 5.33 IP per day from SP. Over the course of a 180 day season that is 960 IP. So we have to start more than 1 SP a day.
There are 20 managers and 30 mlb teams. If 10 teams start 2 pitchers a day that means 10 teams cannot start more than 1 pitcher a day. On any given day, half the league is physically unable to have enough starters going to meet the minimum IP cap.
Yes, we have relievers to help. I ran 4-5 relievers out there every day. But sometimes they sit without pitching 2-3 days. Sometimes they pitch 1 out, sometimes 1 1/3 IP.
To meet the minimum IP cap we need to average 7IP per day. That's a tall order to ask of 20 people when statistically speaking half the league is looking at an average of about 6 2/3 IP per day (average IP from a starter plus average IP/day of some relievers.

Now, admittedly lowering the IP cap and thus the min IP limit will help alleviate some of this. But until we get a clearer picture of the number, issuing demerits to league members who may be mathematically unable to complete the task is patently unfair. Especially if we add roster spots. Some managers will keep that many more SP on their rosters which is that many fewer SP to rotate thru.

Oh, and those numbers dont take into account that 2/7 (or 28.5%) of the days, the available of SP drops because of off days. Those numbers above when looking at available pitchers compared to needed IP and team need assumes all 30 teams play. But in more than a quarter of the days, that is not the case.


right before this post, Nerfherders had posted the following:
Some math to help support lowering the max IP cap:

2018 Total Starter IP: 26,066.67, 5.33 IP per start

2008 Total Starter IP: 28,198.67, 5.8 IP per start

A half an inning in 10 years.

Think of SP as start-buys. When you keep or draft a starter your'e buying 30 starts, presumably. If a team with good closers has a maximum of, say, 300 IP for relievers, that's 1100 IP a team has to come up with with start-buys. In 2008 you could buy 190 starts to get that. In 2018 you needed to buy 208 starts. That's more than one half season of a full-time starter more. There's only 4860 starts to buy, and if every team is wishing to get to 1100 SP IP, they're buying 4160 starts. The 'spare' starts - starts that are left over if everyone gets 1100 SP innings - have gone down from 1060 to 700.

If the 'opener' trend continues, starter IP are going to continue to dwindle, and start-buys are going to be harder and harder to come by as people need to buy more starts to get to their IP thresholds.

In the end I think 1350 is a fair number for an IP cap, but I would advise against adding roster spots as that just brings it back to where we are now.



So no, BMD, the math says the IP are not easy to get. It would be easy in a 14 or 16 team league. But not in a 20 team league.
Today, there are ZERO starting pitchers available for people to pick up. None at all.
 
411Thumqer
      ID: 39230821
      Thu, Aug 15, 2019, 14:24
@BMD <407> fair points, I suppose it’s more feasible for a rebuilding team to stash an SP who will be out a full year. That said, a TJ surgery to a key asset could derail a competitive team who’s worked through a rebuild to become competitive. I don’t expect to get much support for this idea, it’d just be nice if the risk on SP wasn’t so much significantly higher than hitters. I was trying to think of some sort of way to retain their value for a lost year.

Related, looking to buy keeper quality SP if anyone is selling
 
412ttucowboy
      ID: 407531012
      Thu, Aug 15, 2019, 16:47
Any reason why keeper IL is capped at 3? I’ve had keepers on IL all year and now have a total of 4 keepers there. Would be nice if I that was just unlimited since it’s only for keepers.
 
413Lyman
      ID: 206491223
      Thu, Aug 15, 2019, 16:58
"They're easy to make" if you don't mind starting Ariel Jurado at Houston or Jhoulys Chacín at Coors Field. To hell with my ratios, I got innings to eat!!!
 
414beastiemiked
      ID: 35282121
      Thu, Aug 15, 2019, 17:06
Hopefully we can table this until the offseason. I probably should’ve just kept my mouth shut. I really am not a fan of in season rule discussions mainly because I can’t stay away from posting my opinion.

With that said, I’m looking forward to see if Meatwads can hold the top spot and if any of the others close behind can catch up. My team is still trying to squeeze into the money again. It will be fun to see how it all shakes out.

 
415ttucowboy
      ID: 407531012
      Thu, Aug 15, 2019, 17:13
As far as the current discussion, it doesn’t take much effort to hit the minimums if you’re paying attention and staying diligent all year. People are scrambling now so of course it’s slim pickings. Kind of like waiting until Christmas Eve to go Christmas shopping. When you add in that the first demerit is forgiven and we’ve lowered them from the original cutoff, it just sounds like a bunch of inexcusable complaining at this point.
 
416beastiemiked
      ID: 35282121
      Thu, Aug 15, 2019, 19:28
Lyman, better than Chad Green. Oof!
 
417beastiemiked
      ID: 35282121
      Fri, Aug 16, 2019, 09:39
My pitching line last night:

1/3ip 8er 6h 3bb 1k

Middle relievers are worse than (c)Losers.
 
418Nerfherders
      ID: 305301811
      Fri, Aug 16, 2019, 11:35
It seems like relievers have taken the brunt of the new juiced ball era. They have been bad in every league this year.
 
419 Gregg Curry
      ID: 38855205
      Fri, Aug 16, 2019, 13:16
Greggo trades:
Jake Arrieta and his 2021 Supp 4

Bmd trades:
Alex Reyes and his 2021 Supp 9
 
420beastiemiked
      ID: 481162721
      Fri, Aug 16, 2019, 13:30
Confirm.
 
421 Gregg Curry
      ID: 38855205
      Sun, Aug 18, 2019, 10:17
Yordan Alvarez sucks soooo bad. Why would anyone make an offer for him now?8
 
422Fosten
      ID: 135162321
      Sun, Aug 18, 2019, 11:39
Calling up Mitch Keller for the 2nd time.
 
423Khahan
      ID: 517561810
      Sun, Aug 18, 2019, 11:57
Thanks for fixing Mitch Keller. Sorry about that one.
 
424Nerfherders
      ID: 305301811
      Mon, Aug 19, 2019, 16:45
Calling up McKay for first time
 
425GO
      ID: 14143919
      Wed, Aug 21, 2019, 10:13
Anyone want a pitcher with 11 Wins, 3.46 ERA and 1.11 WHIP? Come get Mike Fiers...

How about a 1B/OF flex with .386 OBP and 19 HR in only 280 ABs... Mark Canha!

Other spare parts like Delino, Kike also available on the pick swap cheap.
 
426Thumqer
      ID: 39230821
      Wed, Aug 21, 2019, 13:50
Thumqer emphasized post <412>

Seriously, might be a good idea to add a couple IL spots. MLB teams are treating the IL as spare roster spots these days. The keeper only rule in the IL prevents it from abuse.
 
427Blue Hen
      ID: 410452818
      Wed, Aug 21, 2019, 14:15
I actually love the IL as constructed now, and would be open to making it 5 or more. But, not until the 2021 season, as teams may have considered trades using 2019 rules.
 
428beastiemiked
      ID: 35282121
      Wed, Aug 21, 2019, 14:30
I’d like to suggest allowing drafted prospects that no longer have prospect eligibility to be added to the IL. Tatis Jr for example.
 
429Khahan
      ID: 367431722
      Wed, Aug 21, 2019, 19:07
428 makes sense.
 
430Fosten
      ID: 135162321
      Thu, Aug 22, 2019, 00:43
Munson is on the hunt for a starting pitcher now that Griffin Canning is headed back to the IL. Contact me if interested.
 
431Thumqer
      ID: 39230821
      Thu, Aug 22, 2019, 09:44
I’m looking to buy an ace if ones available. I have lots of p picks, prospects (Casey Mize, Nolan Jones, Jazz Chisholm, the Phillies Luis Garcia who isn’t good), supp picks and players to deal from. It could be nice to get your offseason consolidation in before the deadline next week. Please let me know if interested!

Also, agree with 428
 
433 Meatwads
      ID: 43056268
      Thu, Aug 22, 2019, 14:56
TIME SENSITIVE - Anyone who owns a pitcher on the list below, I'm interested in making a trade with you. If you are willing to discuss, please reach out to me.

Aroldis Chapman
Emilio Pagan
Ken Giles
Alex Colome
Joe Jimenez
Hansel Robles
Liam Hendricks
Mark Melancon
Raisel Iglesias
Archie Bradley
Will Smith
 
434Species
      ID: 351051122
      Thu, Aug 22, 2019, 19:30
What? No Greene, Kimbrel, Rogers or Workman?
 
435Meatwads
      ID: 43056268
      Thu, Aug 22, 2019, 19:42
Trade Announcement

Meatwads trade :
George Valera, OF, CLE (p)
James McCann, C, CHW

WG trades :
Hansel Robles, RP, LAA
 
436WG
      ID: 53213822
      Thu, Aug 22, 2019, 19:53
confirmed
 
437Thumqer
      ID: 39230821
      Thu, Aug 22, 2019, 22:34
Trade Announcement

Meatwads Receives
Mark Melancon, RP, ATL
Ryan Yarbrough, SP, TB
Thumper’s 2021 s13

Thumper Receives
Hunter Strickland, RP, WSH
Dexter Fowler, OF, STL
Meatwads 2021 s3
 
438Meatwads
      ID: 87562221
      Thu, Aug 22, 2019, 22:56
Confirmed
 
439Meatwads
      ID: 43056268
      Fri, Aug 23, 2019, 17:46
Trade Announcement

Meatwads receive :
Will Smith, RP, SF
Shin-Soo Choo, OF, TEX
2020 - Last supp pick
2021 - Last supp pick

ttu cowboy receives :
Renato Nunez, 1B/3B, BAL
Chris Taylor, 2B/SS/OF, LAD
2020 - 6th round supp pick (via Greggo)
2021 - 1st round supp pick
 
440ttucowboy
      ID: 337391915
      Fri, Aug 23, 2019, 17:47
Confirmed
 
441Nerfherders
      ID: 347152518
      Sat, Aug 24, 2019, 18:26
Sending down McKay first time
 
442Species
      ID: 351051122
      Sun, Aug 25, 2019, 23:29
Fiers trade includes:

GO gets slizz' 7th

Species gets his own 10th back
 
443Species
      ID: 57658249
      Mon, Aug 26, 2019, 14:04
Trade announcement:

Species receives:
Kole Calhoun
2021 youngroman 9th

youngroman receives:
David Peralta
2021 Species 6th
 
444Species
      ID: 57658249
      Mon, Aug 26, 2019, 14:05
PS - been doing a lot of traveling and have more to do. I will update the trades in the Constitution when I have the chance.
 
445Tree
      ID: 77532019
      Mon, Aug 26, 2019, 19:55
trade with greggo includes his 4th for my 6th.
 
446 Gregg Curry
      ID: 38855205
      Mon, Aug 26, 2019, 20:00
Confirm trade with Tree. Tree also gets Tom Ilone; Greggo gets Brian Anderson.
 
447 GreggoRomans
      ID: 47931312
      Tue, Aug 27, 2019, 02:03
correction to above post, Tree receives Tom Milone
 
448Blue Hen
      ID: 410452818
      Tue, Aug 27, 2019, 09:19
Trade deadline is tonight. Looking to deal Joey Votto, Kyle Schwarber, Alex Verdugo, Ken Giles, and David Price. Looking for a big time hitter.
 
449Thumqer
      ID: 39230821
      Tue, Aug 27, 2019, 09:48
Who wants to make some deadline moves?!? I’ll buy extra keepers before the offseason when everyone is trying to consolidate.
 
450Species
      ID: 57658249
      Tue, Aug 27, 2019, 12:43
Trade announcement:

Species receives:
Chris Bassitt
Thumper's 2021 8th

Thumper receives:
Matt Joyce
2021 Species 5th
 
451Thumqer
      ID: 39230821
      Tue, Aug 27, 2019, 12:44
Confirmed

Deadline Day!
 
452Meatwads
      ID: 43056268
      Tue, Aug 27, 2019, 15:30
Trade Announcement

Meatwads receives :
Archie Bradley, RP, ARI
2021 - Last supp pick

Bmd recieves :
Freddy Galvis, 2B/SS, CIN
2021 - 4th round supp pick
 
453beastiemiked
      ID: 35282121
      Tue, Aug 27, 2019, 15:31
Confirm
 
454Species
      ID: 57658249
      Wed, Aug 28, 2019, 16:45
And DOWN THE STRETCH THEY COME!!

Like a great horse race, the 2019 G20 season is now in the final stretch. Most teams have between 29-31 or so games left!! The trade deadline has passed, and there appear to be two contenders left standing.....will Meatwads' 9-closer strategy be enough to bridge the 10 point gap?!? Can I get enough K and W to give myself a little more breathing room?!? Everyone has played their cards, and outside of some streams or a lucky WW pickup, we have what we have.

I would like to congratulate everyone on a very active year. We already had an offseason for the ages with 2 new teams stripping themselves to the core and building back from there. After a short trading lull when I creeped into the 170s, trading sprung to life and got crazy over these last few weeks. Serious props to Meatwads for emptying the cupboard and giving himself a serious chance to win. Best of luck down the stretch, bro.
 
455Nerfherders
      ID: 2211442615
      Sat, Aug 31, 2019, 12:43
Is a called-up prospect eligible to be put on the IL? I have Hiura on the DL now and he's still prospect eligible, however Ive called him up twice so if I send him down he's done for the year. Obviously that's not ideal.
 
457Species
      ID: 351051122
      Sun, Sep 01, 2019, 01:19
No.

It has been suggested that we expand our IL eligibility to include called up prospects. We can vote on that this offseason.

....and you are right. If you send him down you can't get him back until the offseason. Sorry.
 
458Tree
      ID: 217372011
      Fri, Sep 06, 2019, 01:21
Well, if nothing else this pitiful season, my team bashed 8 home runs tonight...
 
459Thumqer
      ID: 39230821
      Fri, Sep 06, 2019, 13:10
*golf claps for Tree*
 
460 GreggoRomans
      ID: 47931312
      Wed, Sep 11, 2019, 06:26
re post 457, I suport being able to put a called-up player on IL. you owned him: you should receive the IL benefit (since, in reality, it is often a curse when the player goes on the DL). Same as a major-league keeper goes the logic. Let's change this guys.
 
461Nerfherders
      ID: 305301811
      Wed, Sep 11, 2019, 12:10
I would also like to consider expanding IL to include any player taken in the first 4 rounds of the draft. These are players you're unlikely to give up on and would be useful for most, if not all, of the season. And sometimes they become keeper quality.
 
462Species
      SuperDude
      ID: 07724916
      Wed, Sep 11, 2019, 17:09
No doubt the IL experiment has yielded positive results. When we enter the offseason, we can decide upon both:

1) Eligibility

2) Total number of IL slots

I am a little leery of the eligibility pool getting too wide for tracking sake. But I am open to what the league feels is best. Everyone has done a spot-on job of managing their IL -- only once did I have to remind a manager to activate a player off of IL after they were reinstated.
 
463Species
      SuperDude
      ID: 07724916
      Mon, Sep 16, 2019, 14:08
TWO WEEKS TO GO!!! Two teams fighting it out!
It is a mad scramble right now, and both team Species and team Meatwads are furiously managing our rosters to try to eek out every last half point. While at this moment – me with a 10.5 point lead - it doesn’t look that close, do not let that fool you for one second. There are A LOT of points that can go either way for both teams. I guarantee you the final standings will have no more than a 3 point difference when all is said and done. It will probably be even closer than that.

To his credit, Meatwads had deployed some of the most innovative management I have ever seen. With no less than TEN pitchers who could close a game, he can deploy 9 of them at any time thanks to strategically acquiring Carlos Martinez, Jose LeClerc and Ian Kennedy, all of whom have SP designations in ESPN. He has over 30 saves over the last 15 days. That does NOT bode well for me to hold him off in the saves category with only a 13 save lead! That boys is already FIVE points in his favor, since I will lose a point when he passes me. My only hope is a lot of losing streaks, sore arms, more illnesses and blowout games for his closers.

This strategy does come at a price however. While Meatwads has continued to use the starters at his disposal, it does bring the strikeout category into risk for him – and without the data I would assume he has dropped a point or two in K, as he is 8 and 4 strikeouts behind the teams ahead of him. He also has some risk in Wins, as he has two teams that are 2 wins behind him and another team that is 3 wins behind him. He does, however, have THREE points of WHIP upside – he is in a 4-way dogfight (and at the back of that pack) in WHIP and only needs a .004 improvement to gain three points.

On the hitting side, his once impenetrable, stud-filled beastly lineup has succumbed to injury and the roster space squeeze required by his closer strategy. Already being forced to drop potential catching keeper Will Smith, Meatwads is limping to the hitting finish line with 6 active hitters after the injuries to Christian Yelich and Javier Baez. Both have very serious injuries – Yelich a broken patella and Baez a broken thumb – but have yet to be designated on the IL, and thus Meatwads cannot replace them without giving up one of his pitchers. I can only assume the Brewers and Cubs do not need the roster space with the expanded rosters, so they are not officially placing them on the IL. I realize that this directly benefits ME in this race, but the rules were clarified / crafted to address IL eligibility. While the intent of the rule is to avoid IL manipulation by waiting for official IL designation to be eligible, this issue is kind of the opposite and it is working against him. Not cool but I don’t see a way around it. ESPN will not allow them to be placed on the IL so he cannot open up the roster space. Talk about rubbing salt in his wounds!

So Meatwads sits behind 10 runs to the team above him, with probably no chance to catch them. He maintains a 24 run lead on the team behind him, so he is probably safe and will not lose a point. He leads in HR and maintains a 9 HR lead. He can probably limp to the finish line and save that point. RBI could be an issue – he is 8 RBI behind the team ahead of him and only 9 RBI ahead of the team behind him. With only 6 hitters, gaining ground may be hard. In steals he is 3 behind the team ahead of him and 6 steals ahead of the team behind him. Probably safe. He is too far behind to gain in OBP, but has some modest risk of losing a point in OBP.

What about me?

On the negative, I am positive I lead the league in 7 ER starts! Somewhere in June or even July I sat with a 3.50 ERA and a cushy lead. Since then, while losing Scherzer for a month I enduring countless massacres by the likes of Porcello, Hamels, Lester, Miley, Bassitt, Fiers and Wade f***ing Davis to where I now sit with a ludicrous 3.881 ERA and holding on for dear life. I have a slim lead on the team behind me and am at far greater risk of losing a point then I am gaining one. Same goes for WHIP – I think it was in the 1.16 range back then and now I am at 1.233 and again have the slimmest of margins before losing a point. I have done decent enough in strikeouts and sit 5th in that category now. Do I sell out to try to pass Meatwads down the stretch and risk blowing up my ratios worse? In wins I am more at risk for a 1.5 point loss than I am to gain. In saves I lead now but will be passed by Meatwads before the end of the year. I have to stay ahead of Thumper to avoid losing another point.

Fortunately, over the time that my pitching was blowing up in a bad way, my hitting has gone OFF and saved my ass. I lost the runs lead at one point but now lead by 6 and hope to stay with my stable of high OBP hitters. In HR I am 3 behind a team to gain, but have more at risk with two teams 2 HR behind me. Where I also went off was in RBI, where I lead by 8 and 13 to two teams on my tail after being 4th or 5th in RBI a month or so ago. This was thanks to the Rendon acquisition and Abreu being an absolute beast over the last 30 days with a .405 obp, 7 HR and 28 RBI. Steals are still hotly contested – I am 1 and 3 SB behind teams ahead of me but also only 2 SB ahead of a team behind me. I have no risk of loss in OBP. After falling to 3rd in OBP 5 or so weeks ago, I blitzkrieged that category since.

I am nervous AF. There are just too many scenarios that would give Meatwads the chance to catch me. FIVE points in saves are basically guaranteed to him unless he gets really unlucky. He has THREE points in WHIP on the table where one 7 inning outing of 1.00 WHIP will gain him those points. Combine that with all of the risks that I have on the table, and this could easily end up a 165.5 to 165 point ending one way or the other.
 
464Thumqer
      ID: 39230821
      Wed, Sep 18, 2019, 13:48
*grabs popcorn for the finale*
 
465Species
      ID: 351051122
      Wed, Sep 18, 2019, 23:58
Sadly for me this is looking like a horror movie!!!
 
466Blue Hen
      ID: 410452818
      Sat, Sep 21, 2019, 01:33
Yeah, getting pretty exciting!
 
467Khahan
      ID: 367431722
      Sat, Sep 21, 2019, 09:26
Can somebody correct something for me? I wanted to drop randy dobnak not Justin Smoak. No clue how I even managed that one.
 
468Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sat, Sep 21, 2019, 12:22
[467] - done
 
469Tree
      ID: 77532019
      Sun, Sep 22, 2019, 10:07
Sending Bo Bichette back to the Minors for the first time...
 
470Nerfherders
      ID: 2211442615
      Sun, Sep 22, 2019, 12:54
For the first time in the second half I have no player on the DL and/or in the minors.

 
471Fosten
      ID: 135162321
      Mon, Sep 23, 2019, 01:16
Sending Mitch Keller down for the 2nd time.
 
472Thumqer
      ID: 39230821
      Wed, Sep 25, 2019, 14:04
I am PSYCHED UP for this next week because in that time we’ll all solve the big question everyone has been waiting for- When can we start a frenzy of Offseason trades?!

I have only 5 keepers at the moment and will be looking to buy buy buy alllll offseason so hit me up early and often for trades!
 
474Nerfherders
      ID: 305301811
      Thu, Sep 26, 2019, 13:46
Meanwhile, I probably have more potential keepers than I can hold, so I'll be looking to make some moves as well!
 
475Species
      SuperDude
      ID: 07724916
      Thu, Sep 26, 2019, 20:59
I have finally taken a little time to add the rest of the league trades. I have bolded two instances - one for myself, one for Meatwads - where I believe the same pick has been traded twice.

Teams may 1) renegotiate 2) the offending team can acquire a replacement pick

If neither of those options happen, the offending team will end up providing their next highest pick to their trade partner. These are both 2021 picks. This does not have to be trued up until the 2021 Supplemental Draft.
 
476GO
      ID: 14143919
      Thu, Sep 26, 2019, 21:54
The app shows a team full of players that arent mine. Well done ESPN.
 
477Species
      SuperDude
      ID: 07724916
      Fri, Sep 27, 2019, 13:08
We are down to three games left......I want to express how impressed I am at SO MANY teams fighting for every run, every strikeout, every inch of ground as we wind down the season. Let me tell you it made my advance planning over these past 2 weeks that much harder, often picking up streamable pitchers 2 days in advance to get the preferred matchups. No cheap stats in this league!
 
478Species
      SuperDude
      ID: 07724916
      Fri, Sep 27, 2019, 17:26
Two league reminders:

1) League rosters are frozen effective the game roster lock on Sunday. No further pickups are allowed after that time, even if ESPN's site will allow it. Those transactions will be reversed.

2) If there is a tie for the wild card, none of those play-in games count towards our 2019 regular season. Sunday is the last day.
 
479Lyman
      ID: 206491223
      Sun, Sep 29, 2019, 22:49
Congrats, Species! You were in command pretty much wire-to-wire until the last month or so. Your dominance kind of irks me though because I think it hindered my ability to improve on my 2020 keepers and draft slots. I had tradable assets, man, but you just wouldn't let off the gas and let some other teams in the race!

Nice run at it, Meatwads. You made it interesting, and credit to you for going all in.
 
480Blue Hen
      ID: 410452818
      Sun, Sep 29, 2019, 23:43
Congrats Species. Great run, and spectacular moves. From Brantley in March to Rendon at the trade deadline, you were active and accurate.

And fantastic work by Meatwads. Best I’ve seen identifying a weakness and destroying it. You’ll be a force for years.

Congrats also to Thumper, Nerf, WG, and Pete for finishing in the money. Thanks for a great season.
 
481ttucowboy
      ID: 328482311
      Sun, Sep 29, 2019, 23:47
Congrats Greg! Well deserved!
 
482Thumqer
      ID: 39230821
      Mon, Sep 30, 2019, 08:10
Congrats Species! You proved your reload formula for 2020 was a good one. Great management that started with the 2020 pick stacking/10th keepers from 2018.

Nice work to Meatwads who had a heck of a mountain to climb in the 2nd half and made it close. It was much more entertaining to watch at the end with you pushing for it, hats off to you.
 
483Tree
      ID: 77532019
      Mon, Sep 30, 2019, 09:35
congrats on the win! as previously pointed out, it was so dominating, it made it challenging for others to improve their teams for 2021.
 
484beastiemiked
      ID: 35282121
      Mon, Sep 30, 2019, 09:57
Congrats Species!
 
485Nerfherders
      ID: 305301811
      Mon, Sep 30, 2019, 11:36
Grats to Species for the win. As for myself, I fought like heck to get back into the money - something I haven't even sniffed in the 9 years Ive been in this league. There was a point in mid-August where I was very close to 10th place, no better than last year, and had to stop waiting for players I liked to get healthy - I had to ditch them and get people that were playing. In the last six weeks I slowly started moving up the leaderboard, and ended up leading in HR in the end - presumably the all time G20 record.

So, a great accomplishment for my team, and for myself. I made some really good in-season trades early enough in the season to matter, and then struggled with injuries to guys I couldn't put on IL for various reasons. I didn't get much else done in my baseball leagues this year, so this makes up for it. More on my year when I have more time to analyze!
 
486Blue Hen
      ID: 410452818
      Mon, Sep 30, 2019, 15:02
Someone please update the spreadsheet, asap
 
487Blue Hen
      ID: 410452818
      Mon, Sep 30, 2019, 15:06
Correct, the old HR record was 255, by Meat last year, and Nerf smashed it, at 280. Meat, BMD, and Pete also passed 255.
 
488Tosh
      Dude
      ID: 057721710
      Mon, Sep 30, 2019, 15:14
Congrats to Species for a powerful win. And thanks to Meatwads for making it interesting.

And congrats to me. I had the fewest transactions for the THIRD season in a row. I always draft a team that has backups so rarely dig into the FA list.

 
489Nerfherders
      ID: 305301811
      Mon, Sep 30, 2019, 16:44
I was second on that list! I think my problem is I like some players too much. When they get hurt I don't want to lose them, or I'm afraid that if I drop someone I like, I won't be able to get them back. I probably could have streamed middle relief more than I did. Although, Lugo was one of my MVP's this year.
 
490Species
      SuperDude
      ID: 07724916
      Mon, Sep 30, 2019, 17:47
RK TEAM GP IP
1 Endangered Species 172 1469 1339.1
2 Mighty Meatwads 159 1388 1280
3 The Thumpers 143 1462 1333.1
4 Busted Ballsacks 131 1439 1293
5 Wazaaap Guy 130 1415 1317
5 ScruffyLookin' Nerfherders 130 1422 1223.1
7 darkside of the moon 128 1458 1350
8 Team Tosh 120.5 1446 1283.1
9 Blue Hen 114.5 1385 1217.1
10 Munson Mobsters 112 1338 1249.2
11 beastiemike d 111 1470 1377
12 Major League 101 1401 1253.2
13 Roto Guru20 100.5 1405 1241
14 GO's Black Sox 97.5 1420 1209.2
15 Team mjd 91 1435 1357.1
16 youngroman's Luschen 89 1419 1339.2
17 Lyman Bostock 10 64 1406 1281.1
18 Khahans Keepers 44 1333 1219.2
19 Fort Worth House Martins 33 1370 1333.1
20 Greggo Romans 29 1357 1118.1
 
492Species
      SuperDude
      ID: 07724916
      Tue, Oct 01, 2019, 17:51
Wow. What a season. Thanks to all for the kind words.....but man, whoever sat around thinking this was some leisurely stroll through the woods wasn't running the numbers over the last 5 weeks.

It SHOULD have been a walk in the woods. Once I jumped into the 160s in early July, barring injury there wasn't much that was going to get in my way....until Meatwads woke up and saw an avenue to get into the mid-160s or hit 170 and made this a TRUE dogfight. Sure, the score ended up 172 to 159, but we were as close as something like 166 to 164 as recent as the Tuesday of the last week of the season.

In the end, Meatwads' saves-or-bust strategy created an imperfect storm for him when injuries to offensive superstars Christian Yelich, Javier Baez and Josh Bell occurred. Complicating matters was the expanded September rosters, which did not create any urgency for those team to placed those stars on the IL, and thus he had no ability to move them to IL and create space for replacements.

As September was unfolding, I found myself scratching my head as to why he didn't consider dropping a couple of his more mediocre closers to keep his GP and IP up. Yes, the numbers indicated he probably needed to pass me in saves to have a chance to win, but what is the point of passing me in saves if he loses 10 points in hitting along the way? It was a huge quandry -- one I no doubt assume Meatwads suffered through as he debated each option.

If I had more time, I would extrapolate what Meatwads might have accumulated had he properly replaced these bats. I wonder if he would have had enough to hunt me down. Let's not even shudder to think what he would have done had he not lost those three hitting studs (let alone Chris Sale blowing up in the wrong way).

I crafted a really strong, no-weaknesses from top to bottom type of team. I lacked the lineups like Meatwads and Thumper with multiple MVP candidates to carry you when the rest of the team goes into a slump --- but I had a VERY strong contributor at every offensive position, and save for one they all stayed healthy. Jose Abreu, Eduardo Escobar, Jonathan Villar, Mookie Betts, Carlos Santana and Michael Brantley all exceeded 570 AB's, with several of them well into the 600 AB range. Combining that with some timely additions (Pederson, Rendon, even Calhoun contributed some bombs) and I had an offense that was just good enough.

I mismanaged my innings pitched, acquiring way too many old veterans who haven't pitched 7 innings in 5 years apparently. That left me scrambling in September, as I ran the numbers and saw the writing on the wall that Meatwads had more than enough ammo to pass me in saves. So I had to pass him in Wins (fail) and Ks (success) to help offset. I managed through Max Scherzer's 5 week injury and had enough to hold on.

Serious props to Meatwads for giving it a balls-out, incredible run. He did take the lead at one point, even if briefly, and was within 3-5 points for much of September. In the end, his choices to defer hitting games I believe did him in.

Big props to Thumper for making a nice run into 3rd. He is top-heave with top 10 studs Acuna, Bregman and Arenado leading the way on offense, with young aces Bieber and Paddack to start a formidable rotation. With his skillful dealmaking, I have no doubt he will contend in 2020.

ttucowboy also fell victim to several highly unfortunate injuries. Stanton, Glasnow and Haniger all missed most of the season. But he astutely picked up MANY strong contributors such as Minor, Boyd, D. Santana and Aquino to finish a strong 4th. Now let's see him turn those assets into another contender in 2020.

WG, as usual, crafted a strong team, riding Yuil Gurriel along with his stable of hitting keepers to a strong lineup. He supplemented that - despite the loss of Severino - with deft pitching acquisitions Minor, Stroman and Gray to finish in the money.

And props to Nerfherders for finishing 5th, riding the amazing Bellinger, the exploding Soler, a returning Didi and the explosive Hiura into a nice offense.

Overall I was extremely impressed with how so many in the league fought to the last out. Every category was contested, with both contenders having to EARN every point they had. bmd gets the "maximizing his GP and IP" award, posting the highest of each for the season.

We will soon turn our attention to the offseason. I will start a separate thread for rule change discussions, trade requests and the like. For now, it is great to take a breath and not worry about who to stream.

Thanks to all teams for such a great season.
 
493Species
      SuperDude
      ID: 07724916
      Tue, Oct 01, 2019, 17:52
Demerit accounting:

Our Games Played minimum is 1375. By my count, four teams failed to meet the minimums:

Tree - 5 short = 1 demerit
Greggo - 18 short = 1 demerit
Khahan - 42 short = 2 demerits
Fosten - 37 short = 2 demerits

Our Innings Pitched minimum is 1200. By my count, only Greggo fell short, and short by 82 innings. That equates to 5 demerits.

Our rules allow for the first 2 demerits to be waived/ignored. As such, Tree, Khahan and Fosten escape with no demerits in the end.

Greggo accumulated 6 total demerits. With two demerits forgiven, Greggo will be assessed a 4 demerit penalty on his draft position and resulting lottery seeding. That would make the regular draft order and lottery seeding as follows:

1) Tree
2) Khahan
3) Lyman
4) youngroman
5) Greggo (-4 demerits)
6) mjd
7) Great One
8) Guru
9) slizz
10) bmd
11) Fosten
12) blue hen
13) Tosh
14) darkside
--- end of lottery ---
15) Nerfherders (tie)
15) WG (tie)
17) ttucowboy
18) Thumper
19) Meatwads
20) Species

Our rules mandate that the draft lotteries for both the Supplemental and Prospect drafts be completed within 30 days after the end of the season. There are definitely teams ready to start dealing, and we all need to see what picks are owned. I will ask Guru to run the lotteries sooner rather than later for this purpose. I will go ahead and start entering trades and create the draft grids and update as the lotteries are completed.

Let me know if there are any discrepancies.
 
494Species
      SuperDude
      ID: 07724916
      Tue, Oct 01, 2019, 17:53
PS to 493 -- if I can also impose upon Guru to run the 5th place tiebreaker between Nerf and WG, that would be lovely. Many thanks!
 
495Species
      SuperDude
      ID: 07724916
      Tue, Oct 01, 2019, 17:54
Correction to 493: actually Tree didn't 'earn' a demerit. He was less than 15 games short. Immaterial either way, but I should be accurate.
 
496Nerfherders
      ID: 305301811
      Tue, Oct 01, 2019, 18:29
I'm curious if there is a tiebreaker for payouts, or if that is handled golf tournament style. I don't even know what the payouts are, for that matter.
 
497Species
      SuperDude
      ID: 07724916
      Tue, Oct 01, 2019, 18:47
496: Golf tourney style. The cumulative value of the positions of the tie are then halved.

So, in your case, I think you split around $10 bucks.

....but you still have the honor of being 'in the money'!!
 
498Tree
      ID: 77532019
      Wed, Oct 02, 2019, 08:46
Correction to 493: actually Tree didn't 'earn' a demerit. He was less than 15 games short. Immaterial either way, but I should be accurate.

by our rules, doesn't this automatically give me the number one draft pick in the lottery?

no?

damn. :D
 
499Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Oct 02, 2019, 10:40
Greg - I think your demerit counts are incorrect.

According to the rules, a shortfall of 1-15 produces one demerit, not zero. So all demerit counts are off by one.

This means that, after deducting the forgiveness of 2, Khahan and Fosten each have one demerit, and Greggo has 6.
 
501Species
      SuperDude
      ID: 07724916
      Wed, Oct 02, 2019, 12:22
499: This is why a commissioner in the midst of a bunch of travel for a new job asks people to check his work. Thanks Guru. You are correct.

The corrected demerit accounting is:

Tree: 1 demerit, forgiven
Khahan: 3 demerits, 2 forgiven, 1 demerit assessed
Fosten: 3 demerits, 2 forgiven, 1 demerit assessed
Greggo: 8 demerits, 2 forgiven, 6 demerits assessed

As such, the corrected base draft order and lottery seeding is as follows:

1) Tree
2) Lyaman
3) Khahan (-1 demerit)
4) youngroman
5) mjd
6) Great One
7) Greggo (-6 demerits)
8) Guru
9) slizz
10) bmd
12) blue hen
12) Fosten (-1 demerit)
13) Tosh
14) darkside
--- end of lottery ---
15) Nerfherders (tie)
15) WG (tie)
17) ttucowboy
18) Thumper
19) Meatwads
20) Species
 
502Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Oct 02, 2019, 12:42
Species asked me to do a random coin flip for a 5/6 tiebreaker (WG vs Nerf).

So I did.

WG wins.
 
503Species
      SuperDude
      ID: 07724916
      Wed, Oct 02, 2019, 12:43
502: Thank you. That means WG receives the 15th place in the draft order. Nerfherders receives the 16th position.
 
504Nerfherders
      ID: 305301811
      Wed, Oct 02, 2019, 13:52
I'll take that to mean I actually came in 5th alone. ;)
 
505youngroman
      ID: 15510187
      Wed, Oct 02, 2019, 17:22
I finally verified all the data I downloaded through the ESPN API and compiled a lot of stats in a Google Sheet:

G20 2019 stats

this sheet should contain most info needed for our history. I don't have the time right now to check which of these info is needed to be copied over to the G20 history sheet.
 
506Blue Hen
      ID: 410452818
      Wed, Oct 02, 2019, 23:16
Thanks Roman. Do you see roto points by cat anywhere? That’s the only thing missing. Could grab it from our standings page, but I can’t access the site.
 
507youngroman
      ID: 15510187
      Fri, Oct 04, 2019, 19:05
bh - added points sheet