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| Posted by: Khahan
- [367431722] Thu, Feb 13, 2020, 23:01
A little later than normal getting things rolling this year. But its time to start Dirty Dozen 2020 season. Pitchers and catchers reported yesterday and today and baseball is officially a thing again! But we'll get this up so people can post trade talks if need be, post keepers, ask questions, check in, all that good stuff.
The Dirty Dozen League Constitution
Entry Fee = $30 (Due by Opening Day) Fee paid to Great One, I believe he prefers paypal.
Each team will name 7 keepers. To be eligible, the player must appear on your roster on the last day of the prior season.
The 2020 season starts a bit earlier this year with multiple games on Thursday, March 26. The past few years we've finished in 7-8 days. Therefore keepers will be due by Friday March 13 at 11:59pm EST. The draft will begin Monday March 16 at 8am EST.
Next Day Transactions - Daily/Tomorrow
Waivers - Continual Rolling List
Payouts = $360
1st Place $245
2nd Place $ 75
3rd Place $ 30
Draftime $ 10*
Trade Review
Commish review, will push through in about 24 hours unless anyone raises any questions/concerns. Generally the next morning unless a trade was accepted the evening before.
Categories & Positions
Roster Positions: C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, OF, OF, OF, Util, Util (new)
SP, SP, SP, RP, RP, P, P, P, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, DL, DL, DL
Batters Stat Categories: Runs (R), Home Runs (HR), Runs Batted In (RBI), Stolen Bases (SB), Batting Average (AVG)
Pitchers Stat Categories: Wins (W), Saves (SV), Strikeouts (K), Earned Run Average (ERA), (Walks + Hits)/ Innings Pitched (WHIP)
Trade Deadline
Last available date offered by Yahoo (usually about a month before season ends)
* - draftime is typically paid by the last place team and not part of the prize pot. |
| | | 1 | Khahan
ID: 367431722
Thu, Feb 13, 2020, 23:02
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February Postings from the 2019 thread:
Tree posted the following:
I've got a bunch of keeper level players too -
interested in consolidation, or picks.
among the top players.
Mike Trout
Francisco Lindor
Jose Ramirez
Yoan Moncada
Victor Robles
Marcel Ozuna
Max Kepler
Mitch Garver
Miguel Sano
Kyle Schwarber
Justin Verlander
Shane Bieber
Noah Snydergaaaaaaaaaaard
Astade posted the following:
Hey guys, looking forward to our draft and opening day!
Altuve and Bogaerts are available for draft picks. Please send me a message through the league website if you are interested!
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| | | 2 | Khahan
ID: 367431722
Thu, Feb 13, 2020, 23:12
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And I've got some tough decisions this year to make:
I need to move 1 or 2 of my top talents at SS. I've got the 2nd, 3rd and 7th ranked SS going into 2020 (dam you Javy Baez and losing multi-position eligibility) in:
Trevor Story
Trea Turner
Javier Baez
I've got the 7th, 11th and 12th ranked 1st basemen in
Matt Olsen
Josh Bell
Rhys Hoskins
On the pitching side I've got
Max Scherzer
Jack Flaherty
Stephen Strasburg
Tyler Glasnow
then to round out the decision making I have:
Aaron Judge
and 2 2019 rookies who should look to improve:
Lourdes Gurriel Jr
Michael Chavez
Trade season is open.
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| | | 3 | Tree
ID: 161118314
Fri, Feb 14, 2020, 12:45
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carrying over from previous thread (as indicated above), to include my email address.
interested in consolidation, or picks.
among the top players.
Mike Trout
Francisco Lindor
Jose Ramirez
Yoan Moncada
Victor Robles
Marcel Ozuna
Max Kepler
Mitch Garver
Miguel Sano
Kyle Schwarber
Justin Verlander
Shane Bieber
Noah Snydergaaaaaaaaaaard
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| | | 4 | Khahan
ID: 551581418
Fri, Feb 14, 2020, 19:58
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***TRADE ANNOUNCEMENT***
Khahan sends Matt Olson to Tree
Tree sends Yoan Moncada to Khahan
No draft picks involved.
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| | | 5 | Tree
ID: 161118314
Sat, Feb 15, 2020, 08:47
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confirmed
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| | | 6 | dpr
ID: 71591613
Sun, Feb 16, 2020, 14:59
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Another manager looking to sell...Pretty sure I will have some of the top players going back into the draft if everything stays the same as I have 7 players frequently ranked in the top 30, two others who go top 50 and maybe the best prospect we have seen in awhile plus a few others who could be nice additions to the end of a keeper list for cheap. I haven't figured out how to adjust for Clevingers injury but it doesn't seem too serious so am ignoring for know even if that isn't realistic.
Planned Keepers:
Yelich
Bellinger
Bregman
Rendon
Snell
Clevinger
Alonso
Guys who really should be kept but dont make my list currently
Castillo
Merrifield
W Franco
Cheap options who could improve many keeper lists
Correa
Darvish
Chapman
I would be interested in ways to consolidate if someone is willing to move a top 25 player (maybe to get more youth/upside?) For the first group of players I would be looking for early round draft picks and for the second batch high single digits would be enough. Picks returned could always be discussed to balance a trade
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| | | 7 | dpr
ID: 71591613
Sun, Feb 16, 2020, 15:01
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I should clarify when I referenced draft picks regards to groups above. I was not counting my planned keeper as a group so group 1 is Castillo etc and group 2 is Correa etc.
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| | | 8 | Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Sun, Feb 16, 2020, 16:21
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Here’s my list!
Gleyber Torres
Jacob deGrom
Ketel Marte
Luis Severino
Eugenio Suarez
Jonathan Villar
Charlie Blackmon
Gary Sanchez
Ramon Laureano
Tommy Pham
Nelson Cruz
Charlie Morton
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| | | 9 | wiggs
ID: 01182010
Tue, Feb 18, 2020, 10:17
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I may be looking for 1 more keeper. I have an some picks to move, but i will not move my 1st. send some offers
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| | | 10 | Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Tue, Feb 18, 2020, 17:42
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TRADE
Da Bomb trades Gary Sanchez + Round 10 pick
Wiggs trades Round 5 pick
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| | | 11 | Wiggs
ID: 4510112611
Tue, Feb 18, 2020, 18:00
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Confirmed
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| | | 12 | dpr
ID: 71591613
Tue, Feb 18, 2020, 18:53
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man just I was coming back here to grab wiggs email to send him a note
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| | | 13 | GO
ID: 141062421
Wed, Feb 19, 2020, 22:59
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GO Keeper Situation
Arenado
Freeman
Bryce
Bichette
Benintendi
Nola
On the fence, inquire...
Hader
Kimbrel
Ohtani
Lemahieu
Senzel
Gallen
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| | | 14 | Khahan
ID: 367431722
Thu, Feb 20, 2020, 22:48
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***TRADE ANNOUNCEMENT***
Khahan sends Max Scherzer to Wiggs
Wiggs sends his 2020 round 2 (2.01) pick to Khahan
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| | | 15 | Khahan
ID: 367431722
Thu, Feb 20, 2020, 22:53
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My keeper list is now looking something along the lines of 7 of the following:
Jack Flaherty
Stephen Strasburg
Yoan Moncada
Trea Turner
Josh Bell
Aaron Judge
Trevor Story
Javier Baez
Tyler Glasnow
I have still have some very valuable pieces I can move as that's 9 names for 7 slots. Draft picks or 2:1 or 3:1 deals are available. If you dont want to deal in higher round picks you still have gurriel and chavez to choose from.
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| | | 16 | Wiggs
ID: 4510112611
Fri, Feb 21, 2020, 08:03
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Confirm
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| | | 17 | GoatLocker
ID: 481111410
Fri, Feb 21, 2020, 12:09
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All,
I am getting your emails, back working full time from home, so haven't had time to take a good look. Intend to reply tomorrow.
GL
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| | | 18 | dpr
ID: 71591613
Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 11:26
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Man Khahan if you ever decide to not play for the future you could win one of these years
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| | | 19 | dpr
ID: 71591613
Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 11:29
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Sorry I should clarify that, that is said tongue in cheek. I do find it an interesting deal to have one of the strongest teams going into the draft trading away one of the best win now players that there is though.
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| | | 20 | Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Mon, Feb 24, 2020, 13:59
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Re: 10, I see I already traded my 10th in last season’s trade with Loki. Wiggs can have my 9th instead.
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| | | 21 | Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Mon, Feb 24, 2020, 21:23
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TRADE
Da Bomb trades Tommy Pham and last round pick
Bean trades round 7 pick
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| | | 22 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Tue, Feb 25, 2020, 00:12
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<21> Confirmed
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| | | 23 | GoatLocker
ID: 481111410
Tue, Feb 25, 2020, 18:58
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Sorry I've not been quicker at responding.
This back working full time is killing me.
I did send a couple of emails out.
Those that didn't hear from me, I'm waiting on responses on a couple of thoughts.
Hoping to get back to everybody tonite or tomorrow.
GL
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| | | 24 | dpr
ID: 71591613
Tue, Feb 25, 2020, 20:52
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TRADE
DPR gets 5th
Goatlocker gets Merrifield and 15th
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| | | 25 | GoatLocker
ID: 29723299
Tue, Feb 25, 2020, 21:18
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Agree with trade!
GL
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| | | 26 | Khahan
ID: 551581418
Wed, Feb 26, 2020, 12:00
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***TRADE ANNOUNCEMENT***
Khahan sends: Javier Baez, Tyler Glasnow, his latest remaining pick to Goatlocker*
Goatlocker sends:
Ozzie albies and his round 3 pick to Khahan
I'll have to scour my draft pick trades from last year and this season. "last pick" goes in order trades were made. First trade of last pick is round 14, second trade round 13 etc
My Keeper list is taking shape. Looks to be:
Aaron Judge
Trea Turner
Trevor Story
Ozzie Albies
Yoan Moncada
Josh Bell
Jack Flaherty
Stephen Strasburg
I'm happy to trade in a 2:1 or shuffle one of these guys off straight up for a draft pick. Feel free to make some offers.
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| | | 27 | GoatLocker
ID: 481111410
Wed, Feb 26, 2020, 13:14
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Agree with trade and feeling better about keepers. Think I am done unless somebody comes up with an improvement for a mid to later draft pick.
GL
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| | | 28 | Khahan
ID: 551581418
Thu, Feb 27, 2020, 21:04
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Compilation of all traded draft picks for the 2020 draft:
1.
Khahan sends Wiggs his round 2 and 3
Wiggs sends Khahan his round 8 and 10
(manny machado/stephen strasburg trade)
2.
Astade sends Wiggs his round 2 and 5
Wiggs sends Astade his rounds 7 and 13
(manny machado/george springer trade)
3.
Astade sends Bean his round 4
Bean sends Astade his round 8
(blake parker)
4.
Loki sends Bean his round 3
Bean sends loki his round 6
(buxton/vazquez trade)
5.
DPR sends goatlocker his round 4
goatlocker sends dpr his round 10
(tucker/clevinger)
6.
Loki Sends Da Bomb his round 6
Da Bomb sends Loki his round 10
(bradley/smith)
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Da Bomb sends Wiggs his round 9
Wiggs sends Da Bomb his round 5
(gary sanchez)
8.
Wiggs sends Khahan his round 2 (2.1)
Khahan sends Wiggs his round 14
(max scherzer)
9.
Da Bomb sends Bean his round 14
Bean sends Da Bomb his round 7
(tommy pham)
10.DPR sends Goatlocker his round 15
Goatlocker sends DPR his 5th
(whit merrifield)
11.
Goatlocker sends Khahan his round 3
Khahan sends goatlockef his round 13
(albies/baez)
I believe that is all trades involving draft picks to date. I scoured this thread the 2019 thread and the 2019 trade tab in the league. If I've missed any, please post them soon.
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| | | 29 | Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Thu, Feb 27, 2020, 22:15
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There are 17 rounds I believe so trade #9 should be my 17th round. Thanks.
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| | | 30 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Thu, Feb 27, 2020, 22:56
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Damn Khahan I though I had done well with the pick trades. You scored 2 2nds and 2 3rds, impressive.
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| | | 31 | wiggs
ID: 01182010
Fri, Feb 28, 2020, 08:39
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He got a 2 and 3, but gave up his 2 and 3- equals out :)
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| | | 32 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Fri, Feb 28, 2020, 10:26
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Guess I misread that. Looks like you are the pick winner this season Wiggs.
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| | | 33 | Khahan
ID: 551581418
Fri, Feb 28, 2020, 23:39
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da Bomb is correct, its 17 rounds, not 14. I can't math. So his correction and it means trade #8 I send my 17th round to wiggs and trade 11 I send my 16th round to goat.
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| | | 34 | Perm Dude
ID: 2915648
Sat, Feb 29, 2020, 11:44
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First time in a long time I have a straight ahead draft!
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| | | 35 | GoatLocker
ID: 4136316
Sat, Feb 29, 2020, 18:28
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OK, so I have 1,2,4,6,7,8,9,11,12,13,14,15,15,16,16,17.
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| | | 36 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Sun, Mar 01, 2020, 13:28
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Do we have a date for Keeper Declaration deadline?:
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| | | 37 | Khahan
ID: 367431722
Sun, Mar 01, 2020, 16:46
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Keeper and draft deadline - this league has been historically consistent and fast with the draft. Last few years 7-8 days each time. Since MLB starts on 3/26 this year, lets have keepers due Wednesday March 11th (by 11:59pm EST) and the draft start Friday morning March 13th at 8am EST.
This gives us a bit of a head start but should take our draft right up to about the 22nd or so.
GO - can you email about payment instructions again?
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| | | 38 | loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Sun, Mar 01, 2020, 17:01
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Keepers, but subject to change:
Ronald Acuna
Yordan Alvarez
Vlad, Jr.
Paul Goldschmidt
Anthony Rizzo,
Chris Sale
Walker Buehler
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| | | 39 | dpr
ID: 71591613
Mon, Mar 02, 2020, 20:22
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I thought the deadline was the 13th?
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| | | 40 | GO
ID: 141062421
Mon, Mar 02, 2020, 21:19
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Think we should consider an NA slot... perhaps in lieu of one of the bench spots at least.
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| | | 41 | Khahan
ID: 367431722
Mon, Mar 02, 2020, 21:38
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DPR post 39 - if we do keepers the 13th and the draft the 15th (I need at least a full day to enter them all in) that runs us right up to the 23rd or 24th to finish the draft. Players wont even clear waivers in time to make roster changes for the first day of games. That's cutting it a little too close.
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| | | 42 | dpr
ID: 71591613
Mon, Mar 02, 2020, 21:54
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Literally going off what you wrote at the top
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| | | 43 | Khahan
ID: 367431722
Tue, Mar 03, 2020, 10:18
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I understand DPR and I'm sorry for the confusion. But I think a couple of days to clear waivers and adjust rosters is warranted. We still have a week before the deadline.
GO - I have no problem with an NA slot. Any other thoughts on it? Just add one? Convert a bench slot? Dont do it at all?
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| | | 44 | Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Tue, Mar 03, 2020, 10:29
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I believe a minor leaguer would be most likely to qualify for an NA spot, in which case I feel a manager should need to use his bench to stash vs us creating a separate NA spot.
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| | | 45 | Wiggs
ID: 4510112611
Tue, Mar 03, 2020, 10:32
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I agree with da bomb
I think we leave it alone and if you want to draft a minor leaguer u need to use a bench spot
If you change a bench spot to na you are penalizing a manager who doesn’t want to use an na spot
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| | | 46 | GoatLocker
ID: 481111410
Tue, Mar 03, 2020, 18:10
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Agree with da bomb also.
GL
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| | | 47 | loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Tue, Mar 03, 2020, 19:35
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I would like to keep it as it is.
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| | | 48 | Tree
ID: 161118314
Wed, Mar 04, 2020, 07:15
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still looking to move some of the following:
Mike Trout
Francisco Lindor
Jose Ramirez
Yoan Moncada
Victor Robles
Marcel Ozuna
Max Kepler
Mitch Garver
Miguel Sano
Kyle Schwarber
Justin Verlander
Shane Bieber
Noah Snydergaaaaaaaaaaard
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| | | 49 | GO
ID: 14143919
Wed, Mar 04, 2020, 07:21
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We probably have enough bench, I just think noting it as strictly a minor league slot is short sighted.
Per Yahoo, eligible if...
They're on the MLB Bereavement List.
They're on the MLB Paternity Leave List.
They're holding out to renegotiate their contract.
They've been sent to the minors or aren't on an official 40-man roster.
They're injured for an indefinite amount, but haven't been placed on the official MLB Disabled List.
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| | | 50 | Wiggs
ID: 4510112611
Wed, Mar 04, 2020, 07:24
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Go- that’s fine. But if we are putting it in and removing a bench spot what’s the difference ? Just leave them on the bench anyways
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| | | 51 | loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Wed, Mar 04, 2020, 16:44
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Revised keepers subject to change:
Ronald Acuna
Yordan Alvarez
Vlad, Jr.
Paul Goldschmidt
Anthony Rizzo,
Jesús Luzardo
Walker Buehler
Available for draft picks:
Mike Soroka
Kenley Jensen
Will Smith
Forrest Whitley
Chris Sale
Jeff McNeil
Mike Moustakas
Mike Conforto
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| | | 52 | GO
ID: 14143919
Thu, Mar 05, 2020, 09:50
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I think generally our benches are too deep in this league. So would push a little bit of active talent back into the pool.
Now that I've acquired Bryce Harper in G20 i am open to moving him here. Specifically looking at moving him for a SP.
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| | | 53 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Thu, Mar 05, 2020, 15:24
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My team is named for Jim Brown, who starred in The Dirty Dozen. I managed to find a picture of him from the movie for my Icon. I just want to know one thing, which of you is Bronson?
Anyway, here are Bean's Browns keepers:
Austin Meadows
Giancarlo Stanton
Tommy Pham
JT Realmuto
Eduardo Escobar
Kirby Yates
Hyun Jin Ryu
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| | | 54 | Tree
ID: 161118314
Thu, Mar 05, 2020, 15:46
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$hit son, I'm Lee Marvin.
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| | | 55 | Khahan
ID: 367431722
Thu, Mar 05, 2020, 15:47
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hell, I call Bronson.
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| | | 56 | Khahan
ID: 551581418
Thu, Mar 05, 2020, 19:41
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aaron judge available for a 3rd round pick OBO.
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| | | 57 | GoatLocker
Dude
ID: 060151121
Fri, Mar 06, 2020, 14:18
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OK, let me list these so I don't forget.
Keepers as of now.
Whit Merrifield,2B, KC
Kris Bryant, 3B, CHC
Javier Baez, SS, CHC
Eloy Jimenez, OF, CWS
Tyler Glasnow, SP, TB
Patrick Corbin, SP, WAS
Brad Hand,RP, CLE
As of 6 Mar.
And my draft picks are 1,2,4,6,7,8,9,11,12,13,14,15,15,16,16,17.
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| | | 58 | astade
ID: 111521021
Fri, Mar 06, 2020, 19:20
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keepers are:
Juan Soto
Xander Bogaerts
Jose Altuve
Max Muncy
Manny Machado
Keston Hiura
Gerrit Cole
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| | | 59 | Tree
ID: 161118314
Sun, Mar 08, 2020, 11:54
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to confirm, this is correct, right?
keepers due Wednesday March 11th (by 11:59pm EST) and the draft start Friday morning March 13th at 8am EST.
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| | | 60 | GO
ID: 141062421
Mon, Mar 09, 2020, 09:02
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GO at this moment keepers
Arenado
Freeman
Bryce
Bichette
Benintendi
Nola
Hader
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| | | 61 | Khahan
ID: 551581418
Mon, Mar 09, 2020, 09:54
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Tree - yes, that is the correct keeper date.
Khahan's keepers
Trevor Story
Trea Turner
Ozzie albies
Yoan Moncada
Jack Flaherty
Stephen Strasburg
Josh Bell
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| | | 62 | wiggs
ID: 01182010
Mon, Mar 09, 2020, 10:07
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Keepers
Tatis Jr
Devers
Springer
Sanchez
Scherzer
Giolito
Berrios
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| | | 63 | Tree
ID: 161118314
Wed, Mar 11, 2020, 14:54
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my current keepers:
Mike Trout
Francisco Lindor
Jose Ramirez
Matt Olson
Victor Robles
Justin Verlander
Shane Bieber
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| | | 64 | Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Wed, Mar 11, 2020, 16:18
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Keepers:
Gleyber Torres
Charlie Blackmon
Ketel Marte
Jonathan Villar
Eugenio Suarez
Jacob deGrom
Charlie Morton
Available:
Nelson Cruz
Ramon Laureano
Cavan Biggio
Luis Severino
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| | | 65 | holt
ID: 5231118
Wed, Mar 11, 2020, 19:07
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keepers:
Mookie Betts (LAD - CF,RF)
J.D. Martinez (BOS - LF,RF,DH)
Adalberto Mondesi (KC - SS)
Starling Marte (ARI - CF)
Clayton Kershaw (LAD - SP)
Brandon Woodruff (MIL - SP,RP)
Gavin Lux (LAD - 2B,SS)
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| | | 66 | Dpr
ID: 1633710
Wed, Mar 11, 2020, 19:24
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Yelich
Bellinger
Bergman
Rendon
Alonso
Clevinger
Snell
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| | | 67 | Perm Dude
ID: 2915648
Wed, Mar 11, 2020, 19:31
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Keepers:
Chris Paddack SD - SP
Zack Greinke Hou - SP
Trevor Bauer Cin - SP
Max Fried Atl - SP
Tim Anderson CWS - SS
José Abreu CWS - 1B
Carlos Santana Cle - 1B
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| | | 68 | astade
ID: 111521021
Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 01:23
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Do we think the MLB opening day will be delayed? or perhaps start on time but play without fans in attendance?
https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/coronavirus-its-time-for-mlb-to-suspend-spring-training-delay-the-start-of-season-due-to-covid-19/
Would be good to know if our draft will be adjusted.
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| | | 69 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 01:50
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I think we should maintain our draft schedule until there is an announcement by MLB in any case.
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| | | 70 | wiggs
ID: 01182010
Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 12:18
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I got a notice saying draft started, i am ready to pick but it says draft stopped. I am heading to a meeting now, but will check back in about an hour
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| | | 71 | Khahan
ID: 367431722
Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 12:24
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Just needed to do some admin stuff w/ keepers before I opened the draft up.
Everybody please double check your keepers both at Yahoo and draftime.
No clock yet, but we are now open and live.
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| | | 72 | Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 12:40
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I should have loki's 6th round. Thanks.
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| | | 73 | Khahan
ID: 367431722
Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 12:57
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Da bomb - at yahoo, draftime or both?
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| | | 74 | Khahan
ID: 367431722
Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 13:04
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Think I found it - I had the trade in, but gave you the wrong round 6 pick. Fixed.
Yahoo trades I'll be entering as we go. Dont worry if they dont match up right now.
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| | | 75 | GoatLocker
Dude
ID: 060151121
Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 13:08
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Mine look good on both.
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| | | 76 | loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 15:14
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Yahoo and Draftime are correct.
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| | | 77 | astade
ID: 111521021
Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 15:29
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https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/28892315/sources-mlb-expected-suspend-spring-training
I don't see the point of a draft clock after this news.
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| | | 78 | Khahan
ID: 367431722
Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 15:37
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G(**^(* mass hysteria.
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| | | 79 | Khahan
ID: 367431722
Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 16:00
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Agreed, Astade. No need for a clock. We're a month out from the start of the regular season now.
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| | | 80 | Khahan
ID: 367431722
Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 16:08
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In fact, I'm willing to listen to arguments for postponing the draft altogether and not even having it open for a certain amount of time.
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| | | 81 | Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 16:21
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I'm in favor of postponing. We know opening day is postponed for at least 2 weeks which could turn out to be longer. Too much uncertainty with the only certainty being that we have at least 2 extra weeks to play with.
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| | | 82 | Tree
ID: 161118314
Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 16:40
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im definitely in favor of not hurrying this thing...
all reports are that COVAD will peak in this country in about 4 to 5 weeks, so we might be seeing MLB delayed even longer.
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| | | 83 | GoatLocker
Dude
ID: 060151121
Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 18:04
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Sounds good to me.
Oh, and by the way, just got this in a work email.
Be careful out there.
A malicious website pretending to be the live map for Coronavirus COVID-19 Global Cases by Johns Hopkins University is circulating on the internet waiting for unwitting internet users to visit the website (corona-virus-map[dot]com).
Visiting the website infects the user with the AZORult Trojan, an information stealing program which can exfiltrate a variety of sensitive data from your computer.
It is likely being spread via infected email attachments, malicious online advertisements, and social engineering.
Furthermore, anyone searching the internet for a Coronavirus map could unwittingly navigate to this malicious website.
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| | | 84 | GoatLocker
Dude
ID: 060151121
Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 18:17
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And I am ready to pick if we are going to continue. Otherwise I'll hold off.
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| | | 85 | dpr
ID: 71591613
Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 18:55
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I am fine if we delay the start of the draft but would rather not go through the draft without a clock as that can just lead to needless checking in and waiting on people or people milking the clock for more time.
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| | | 86 | holt
ID: 91212918
Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 18:55
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I'm in favor of delaying the draft as well.
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| | | 87 | Perm Dude
ID: 2915648
Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 18:57
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Happy either way. I'd lean toward keeping the draft going if spring training was continuing, but without spring training it is harder to evaluate players, particularly at this point in the draft.
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| | | 88 | Khahan
ID: 551581418
Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 19:41
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84 - if you want to pick go ahead and pick. But since those checking in seem in favor of post-poning I'm going to hold my pick. The problem if I pause the draft is that nobody can check in, set queues and work use it as a tool to work on spreadsheets. I'd rather leave it open so people have the information they need to prep.
if you'd rather hold off, just state here you'll not pick and that way people know not to check in compulsively.
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| | | 89 | GoatLocker
Dude
ID: 060151121
Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 20:40
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OK, I did pick, but there is an issue. The Grid for Drafttime shows Bean Owning Tommy Pham, but Yahoo shows him owning Danny Santana. I did my list of keepers from Yahoo and couldn't figure out why it wouldn't let me make the draft pick I wanted to.
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| | | 90 | Khahan
ID: 367431722
Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 21:10
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Goat - I don't see that anywhere. Draftime keepers, draftime grid and Yahoo all have Tommy Pham listed for Bean and I dont see danny santana anywhere for him.
Could be a yahoo glitch. I did notice after I entered keepers, Ronald Acuna was listed as available AND listed on Loki's team for a moment. But a refresh cleared that up.
For the record, in case there is anymore confusion - Bean listed Pham as a keeper.
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| | | 91 | astade
ID: 111521021
Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 21:57
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If my turn comes up, I will be holding off on drafting.
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| | | 92 | loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 22:24
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I would like to pause the draft until spring training resumes.
We could take a vote.
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| | | 93 | Khahan
ID: 551581418
Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 22:42
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We are effectively paused. If I physically pause it, nobody can access it. The clock is not running and I wont be picking for at least a week. No need to check in to see if its your pick. But you can log in and set queues and do your spreadsheets if you'd like.
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| | | 94 | wiggs
ID: 01182010
Fri, Mar 13, 2020, 08:18
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I have no problem with pausing the draft but I do see it as a huge disadvantage to everyone who already picked in a timely manner. What if something happens to one of the players who were picked between now and when we restart the draft. I think if we are pausing we really need to consider restarting the whole draft when it comes back.
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| | | 95 | Khahan
ID: 551581418
Fri, Mar 13, 2020, 09:05
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Wiggs - I'm willing to put that to a vote. We are only 3 or 4 picks in. Its not like 8 men out where we have 9 or 10 rounds down already.
I'd be willing to consider:
1) things stay as they stand
2) just scrub the picks and start over closer to the real game time
3) leave as is, but if one of the players drafted gets injured during the break (IE not spring training injury which is a risk we all take) they can redo that pick before we start.
I dont think its an unreasonable request at all. Lets see what everybody else thinks.
I'd prefer to keep it to options 1 or 2 and use option 3 as a compromise if there is actually a debate on what to do.
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| | | 96 | wiggs
ID: 01182010
Fri, Mar 13, 2020, 09:20
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Khahan-
2 or 3 both seem reasonable to me. Thank you for the consideration
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| | | 97 | Tree
ID: 571142323
Fri, Mar 13, 2020, 09:28
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What are we, 5 picks in?
I say just start over when we know more...
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| | | 98 | Perm Dude
ID: 2915648
Fri, Mar 13, 2020, 10:03
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I'd pick 1 but keep things flexible. There's little change of things changing much.
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| | | 99 | wiggs
ID: 01182010
Fri, Mar 13, 2020, 10:07
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PD- how would you feel if DJ gets corona and misses the season? Wouldnt you think you should be able to repick?
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| | | 100 | Perm Dude
ID: 2915648
Fri, Mar 13, 2020, 10:12
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Wiggs: You might have overlooked the "keep things flexible" part of my post.
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| | | 101 | wiggs
ID: 01182010
Fri, Mar 13, 2020, 11:10
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I saw it- but keep things flexible could mean alot of things. Example if I lose Castillo, do I get to pick from all the players- including ones who were taken pick 2-4, because my 2nd choice was 1 of those player, or do I get to pick from what is available at this point.
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| | | 102 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Fri, Mar 13, 2020, 11:17
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I do not have a strong opinion about what to do about this league's draft since it just started. Other leagues I am in are much further along, so I am inclined to let those drafts continue with a long clock.
Will cooperate with whatever is decided in any case. However, I would suggest that not playing this season for cash might reduce some of the anxiety.
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| | | 103 | GO
ID: 14143919
Fri, Mar 13, 2020, 11:23
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My idea would be finish picking the first round. Those guys are yours. They are effectively your 8th keeper.
Wait until 2 weeks before season really does start for the rest.
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| | | 104 | Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Fri, Mar 13, 2020, 11:25
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I'm fine with starting over. Or option 3.
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| | | 105 | loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Fri, Mar 13, 2020, 12:08
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I prefer option 1 and keeping the draft paused.
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| | | 106 | dpr
ID: 32291311
Fri, Mar 13, 2020, 12:09
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I agree with the generally sentiment that pausing in the middle of a round is not a great precedent. I agree with GO that my preferred option would be to finish the first round and then take a break. While I would be fine if we went with another option as well, if we did go with the restart option, that also creates the question of why not redo keeper selections.
I also think we need to be aware that the season could resume very quickly once they decide that things are clear (acknowledging this could be months). They will be scrambling to get their games in so may decide to forego or greatly shorten remaining spring training.
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| | | 107 | Khahan
ID: 367431722
Fri, Mar 13, 2020, 16:30
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As far as timing goes, I plan on re-evaluating where things stand (for this and 8 men out) on a weekly basis.
As for pausing now instead of at the end of the round - I understand some people feel its a bit odd. But the reality is that it makes no difference. A pause is a pause is a pause.
2 months from now it will have made no difference. And if we stay flexible on options like thinking of starting the draft over since we are only 5 in, it doesn't really affect anything.
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| | | 108 | GO
ID: 14143919
Fri, Mar 13, 2020, 16:51
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It matters if drafted player X breaks his arm between now and then. Then that person is going to want to change their pick and it will influence their voting.
Right now that risk is unfairly on the 5 who picked already. Whereas you have no risk since you didnt make a pick.
You have to finish the round so its fair or scrap the whole thing and need to decide now before other factors adversely impact the status of those selected or not yet picked for that matter.
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| | | 109 | astade
ID: 111521021
Fri, Mar 13, 2020, 17:26
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I think we are early enough in the draft to start over so that we limit the risk that a drafted player gets hurt and at the same time not revealing a manager's overall strategy.
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| | | 110 | Wiggs
ID: 4510112611
Fri, Mar 13, 2020, 20:07
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Another thing that changes things is players like judge stanton sale and other were all starting the season injured. If the season starts a month later those picks are a lot stronger than they were when I picked. I think the draft needs to restart at this point
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| | | 111 | loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Sat, Mar 14, 2020, 11:11
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If we restart, then we should consider resubmitting the keepers.
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| | | 112 | Khahan
ID: 367431722
Sat, Mar 14, 2020, 13:11
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Agree Loki. The same thinking would apply.
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| | | 113 | dpr
ID: 71591613
Sat, Mar 14, 2020, 13:47
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I think you jsut want Judge back
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| | | 114 | Perm Dude
ID: 2915648
Sat, Mar 14, 2020, 13:53
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I get the above points about different situations making a redraft more fair. And I tend to agree with it.
But I want to be a Devil's Advocate for a moment: What if, on the restart, a manager is absolutely fine with their keepers and their picks so far (which is likely to be the case with most of us anyway). A redraft would essentially mean that the players you drafted get taken by another team. And that doesn't appear to be fair either.
While I agree they there will be *some* changes when there is a restart, I'd argue that virtually all of those changes are very small ones and should be weighed against the work so far.
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| | | 115 | Khahan
ID: 367431722
Sat, Mar 14, 2020, 15:30
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Keep in mind option #3 from post 95. As PD points out, there are still potential pitfalls to just refdrafting. Option 3 essentially means we draft as we go and the unintended break has no pitfalls.
If Sonny Gray is out riding his motorcycle before spring training resumes, crashes and breaks his pitching arm, we allow Bean to redo that pick (though players taken after are off the board. This only affects 3 picks). Once ST starts (assuming they start it at all and dont just go to the season) we treat everything like normal.
I can tell you this, injury concern and losing more than a month of the season affected my keeper decisions. Now that we aren't really losing this part of the season to injuries I would *love* the opportunity to redo my keeper list. I'm being open about my motivations but I do agree if we rollback because issues out of everybody's control have drastically change circumstances, its only fair to roll back the whole way.
Realistically I'd prefer not to roll back and just give those who have picked a bit of protection to hedge their picks.
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| | | 116 | holt
ID: 91212918
Sat, Mar 14, 2020, 19:30
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I don't care if we totally restart or if we stay where we are and allow the guys who already drafted a player to swap them out later when we re-start if they so choose.
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| | | 117 | GO
ID: 14143919
Sun, Mar 15, 2020, 21:10
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Need campaign posters for "Finish the round and shut it down!"
no debate... level playing field for all... no grey areas... no hindsight bias swaps because things might change... no questions. Pick it up 2 weeks before they declare ready to roll.
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| | | 118 | Dpr
ID: 1633710
Sun, Mar 15, 2020, 21:15
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Go definitely agree but worry we are already passed that and it just gets worse the longer we wait
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| | | 119 | Khahan
ID: 551581418
Sun, Mar 15, 2020, 22:06
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We still have some strong opinions that we should wipe everything and start over. So before we continue and shut it down - lets get a final vote here:
1. shut it down after a full round
2. scrap what we did and start over.
3. pause it now and give those who already picked the opportunity to redo their picks if those players get injured before MLB resumes.
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| | | 120 | loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Sun, Mar 15, 2020, 22:27
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Number 1.
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| | | 121 | astade
ID: 111521021
Sun, Mar 15, 2020, 22:49
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2
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| | | 122 | GoatLocker
Dude
ID: 060151121
Sun, Mar 15, 2020, 23:34
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I'm looking at 2 or 3, but there is another problem. There is a lot of discussion that Spring Training will not restart and that it could be a very short period from announcement to start of season. In that case, we probably end up scrapping league for this season. Not to be the big negative here, but think we need to look at all sides of this. They do not want to cut # of games for the season, so that could have a big impact.
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| | | 123 | Khahan
ID: 551581418
Sun, Mar 15, 2020, 23:58
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No need to scrap the league. As of now we are 2 weeks out from any potential start. Hopefully by next week we have more solid info on whats happening. But we wont be scrapping the fantasy season.
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| | | 124 | holt
ID: 491153264
Mon, Mar 16, 2020, 00:29
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How bout option 4? Just move ahead with our draft but with a more relaxed clock.
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| | | 125 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Mon, Mar 16, 2020, 01:35
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4
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| | | 126 | Tree
ID: 571142323
Mon, Mar 16, 2020, 08:00
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1 or 2, but be ready to go with a very short clock, and if your pick is missed, it's missed.
Or, we go with a live draft on yahoo that we discuss and finalize within 24 hours of any announced resumption.
Or, finally, we just start the season two weeks late if there's no way to accomplish either of the above.
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| | | 127 | wiggs
ID: 01182010
Mon, Mar 16, 2020, 09:48
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option 2 or 1 in that order.
I know i feel strong about this because it effects me more than others, but if you dont think Khahan has a huge advantage waiting an entire month to make his 1st pick you are crazy. Injured players will be healthy by then making things a lot different.
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| | | 128 | Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Mon, Mar 16, 2020, 09:56
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2 - draft only. Not keepers.
It now appears we are at minimum 2 months away from a league start. And I don’t foresee the start announcement being sudden. I’d assume we’d have enough notice in between to hold our draft.
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| | | 129 | GO
ID: 14143919
Mon, Mar 16, 2020, 10:16
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#1
And it will not be so sudden we cant knock out half a draft.. also consider we've already done 7-8 rounds.
Worst case like Tree says you finish with a fun old school Yahoo Live draft.
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| | | 130 | dpr
ID: 32291311
Mon, Mar 16, 2020, 10:51
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1
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| | | 131 | Perm Dude
ID: 2915648
Mon, Mar 16, 2020, 11:43
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1
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| | | 132 | GoatLocker
Dude
ID: 060151121
Mon, Mar 16, 2020, 13:57
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It is real crazy out there and will not change instantaneously. About 85% of the casinos are closed in Las Vegas.
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| | | 133 | Wiggs
ID: 4510112611
Mon, Mar 16, 2020, 13:58
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All NY restaurants movie theaters and casinos closed
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| | | 134 | Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Mon, Mar 16, 2020, 14:51
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I think it’s too late to finish the round because picks 5-12 have the information of the delayed season that picks 1-4 didn’t.
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| | | 135 | holt
ID: 91212918
Mon, Mar 16, 2020, 15:13
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I can't remember why we stopped the draft now. RIBC drafts are moving forward.
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| | | 137 | Tree
ID: 571142323
Mon, Mar 16, 2020, 15:35
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I can't remember why we stopped the draft now. RIBC drafts are moving forward.
The only explanation I can have for any league continuing a draft is wishful thinking.
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| | | 138 | Khahan
ID: 367431722
Mon, Mar 16, 2020, 16:39
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Ok, I think I'm going to suggest an executive decision. It may not be liked by everybody but - considering we are now at least 6-8 weeks out from the start, I'm shutting down the draft and considering this to be the same situation as "pitchers and catchers report." Its just too early to draft. Too soon to do anything. We'll figure out exactly WHEN to start things down the road. But for now, its shut down and I'm deleting already made picks. We'll start fresh with the draft down the road.
Keepers - I'll consider if we keep it is or resubmit.
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| | | 139 | dpr
ID: 32291311
Mon, Mar 16, 2020, 16:42
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Frankly I think that is complete bullshit and you are ignoring what most here are saying here which is that you are gaming this to your own advantage. This is not the first time I have felt this way either
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| | | 140 | Khahan
ID: 242551616
Mon, Mar 16, 2020, 17:55
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What exactly am I ignoring? People want it shut down, it’s shut down. People want either start over or to continue the first round. We’re starting over. I’m gaining nothing. Unless I’m completely missing something.
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| | | 141 | Khahan
ID: 242551616
Mon, Mar 16, 2020, 18:01
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All the discussion above was looking at a 2 week delay. But now we are 2 months out. Just not sure what advantage in the draft I’m personally gaining by saying we’re 5 picks in, let’s let those people redo their picks in a few weeks.
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| | | 142 | Wiggs
ID: 4510112611
Mon, Mar 16, 2020, 20:59
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I think what you are saying is the most fair thing you can do. If you said keep the picks that would totally be to your advantage. Thank you for being fair
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| | | 143 | wiggs
ID: 01182010
Mon, Mar 16, 2020, 21:06
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because drafting is the best part :)
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| | | 144 | dpr
ID: 71591613
Tue, Mar 17, 2020, 22:02
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Maybe I spoke too quickly earlier but it is taking a poll and then deciding that you are going to make an "executive decision" or how saying you are going to decide later if keepers are redone.
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| | | 145 | Khahan
ID: 367431722
Wed, Mar 18, 2020, 02:02
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144 - understood it was sudden. But like I said - the poll was based on a 2 week delay where we may stop the draft for 7 days. Now we are 2 months out. Starting up again just seems to be the worst option.
As for keepers - that was poorly worded on my part. Simply meant things stay as they are for now and we can decide later if keepers need to change.
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| | | 146 | astade
ID: 111521021
Fri, Mar 20, 2020, 11:04
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1 keeper is already out for 2020.
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/28927717/red-sox-chris-sale-undergo-tommy-john-surgery
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| | | 147 | dpr
ID: 71591613
Fri, Mar 20, 2020, 12:15
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Sale wasnt kept but this is why we need to lock in keepers. We cant be adjusting past decisions to news like this. This could have happened at any point. This just adds way too much ambiguity and opportunities to be biased.
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| | | 148 | loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Fri, Mar 20, 2020, 14:13
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I did not keep Sale prior to the announcement of his need for TJ surgery.
I agree with dpr and think that the keepers should be locked in.
However this is most likely moot because there may very well be no baseball season.
:-(
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| | | 149 | dpr
ID: 71591613
Fri, Mar 20, 2020, 14:30
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even if there is no season it is still relevant because it would have an impact on how we approach 2021 although I would like to think that is an unlikely outcome at this point
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| | | 150 | Tree
ID: 161118314
Fri, Mar 20, 2020, 14:53
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i don't understand this point at all.
Our draft and keepers are locked in when they are, based on MLB starting the season on a certain date.
they're not starting on that date, so it's still the offseason as far as i'm concerned.
we don't pick keepers two, three, four months before the season starts in any other year, why should we do that this year?
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| | | 151 | Astade
ID: 102162014
Fri, Mar 20, 2020, 15:16
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Sorry, didn’t meant to unnecessarily start a controversy. I saw a previous post by Loki stating Sale was a keeper and didn’t see his follow up.
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| | | 152 | dpr
ID: 71591613
Fri, Mar 20, 2020, 15:44
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astade, I think its good that you brought it up as this discussions need to be had, especially as their is clearly disagreement.
The point is we set a date which past and now we are all on equal footing. To allow some to make amendments just advantages some other others.
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| | | 153 | holt
ID: 62442015
Fri, Mar 20, 2020, 16:44
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I agree with the sentiment that we pick keepers briefly before the draft. That is the time that makes sense to do it. Not months before. I do not give any thought or care about the idea that resetting our keepers would give some kind of advantage to someone. Seems like a very simple solution to do a hard reset, assuming that we're given fair warning from MLB when the season will start.
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| | | 154 | Khahan
ID: 367431722
Fri, Mar 20, 2020, 18:00
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I'm at a toss-up on this years keepers. I see good points on both sides and while I dont want to discourage the debate, I also think right now its just too early. Things are changing so fast we may come to an agreement on what to do and the dates all change again. Definitely have the discussion and get some ideas out there.
The only thing I'll comment on is if the 2020 baseball season just doesn't happen. If that's the case I feel really strongly that we keep 2019 rosters locked in and get to redo keepers in 2021.
But for 2020, as I said - for now I view keepers as already picked. But when we get closer to the start of the season we should revisit. In the meantime, not much else to do but debate the pros and cons.
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| | | 155 | loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Mon, Mar 23, 2020, 10:40
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Re: 143, "because drafting is the best part :)"
I agree with Wiggs.
Without having met anyone in our league, I have the impression that we are a diverse group. Some of us are older, I think that Cliff and I are probably the oldest, and as such have been socially isolating for longer and more vigorously. Some may have underlying health problems and have been more cautious because of them.
Unless Covid-19 becomes quiescent in the warm weather, which I think is unlikely, I do not think that there will be a baseball season in 2020. This of course is among the least of our worries.
However we all need diversions, and our draft can be one of them.
So why not continue the draft with no clock or perhaps a 24 hour clock and no frustration with anyone timing out?
Just a thought.
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| | | 156 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Mon, Mar 23, 2020, 11:18
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Let's compare senior discount cards loki...I am 64
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| | | 157 | loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Mon, Mar 23, 2020, 11:23
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72 in July.
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| | | 158 | loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Mon, Mar 23, 2020, 11:25
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And Gurupie since 1998.
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| | | 159 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Mon, Mar 23, 2020, 11:30
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Hell, bet you have some fossils stuck in your teeth. Stay safe old man.
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| | | 160 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Mon, Mar 23, 2020, 11:31
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Wait, do you still have your teeth?
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| | | 161 | Perm Dude
ID: 2915648
Mon, Mar 23, 2020, 12:30
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Just turned 55!
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| | | 162 | loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Mon, Mar 23, 2020, 12:48
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Clean living and Woodford Reserve:
All teeth present and accounted for!!
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| | | 163 | GoatLocker
ID: 492542212
Mon, Mar 23, 2020, 13:17
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67 until October at least.
Woodford Reserve, good stuff.
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| | | 164 | wiggs
ID: 01182010
Mon, Mar 23, 2020, 14:37
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43- living in upstate NY- Not a good place to be with this virus. Hope everyone stays safe.
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| | | 165 | wiggs
Leader
ID: 04991311
Mon, Mar 23, 2020, 14:41
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I just looked, been a Gurupie since 2000- 20 years of Roto. Thank you to Dave
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| | | 166 | Khahan
ID: 367431722
Mon, Mar 23, 2020, 17:25
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Just turned 45 a month ago. Been around these boards since 1998. Started with Smallworld. My brother (hasn't been around the boards since about 2000) and Mike D introduced me.
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| | | 167 | holt
ID: 491153264
Mon, Mar 23, 2020, 18:07
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49. I think I've been here since the sporting news days. was that the same as small world? long time ago.
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| | | 168 | Khahan
ID: 367431722
Tue, Mar 24, 2020, 12:15
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yeah, sporting news became smallworld or vice versa?
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| | | 169 | loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Tue, Mar 24, 2020, 12:57
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I think that SWB came 1st and The Sporting News bought them at some point. I started to play SWB in 1998 after reading about in the NY Times, and in fact the Times had an article about Dave.
Guru article
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| | | 170 | Tree
ID: 161118314
Tue, Mar 24, 2020, 14:07
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we are some old Mofos.
I'm 51, which is weird, because i remember when my dad turned 50 and he seemed old AF to me.
Started with Smallworld. My brother (hasn't been around the boards since about 2000) and Mike D introduced me.
i am pretty sure i've been here since smallworld as well, as i remember the game, and then transitioning to the yahoo leagues, introduced to them, by the aforementioned Mike D.
I live in Fort Worth, TX, a city I abandoned as soon as I graduated HS, and never thought I'd be back, but the economic disaster of 2008 forced me back here from NYC, my birthplace and where until then i had lived most of my adult life.
I miss NYC everyday, but cannot imagine the horrors it is experiencing now, and my heart aches.
As a teenager, i loved bookstores and baseball, and remember coming across something called "Rotisserie League Baseball," and after reading what it was about, bought it.
Having survived the summer of '81 with no baseball (a bit dramatic, i realize, given the current circumstances), i was completely intrigued with the idea of creating my own league, complete with teams with names like the "Okrent Fenokees."
So, Josh League Baseball was invented, with the first team being the "StrawberryKnee Men", named after my favorite player at the time and a play on my last name. I must have spent weeks coming up with a terrible logo for that team.
A few years later, in college, myself and a few friends created our own league, using Earl Weaver baseball on my old Tandy Computer, and then, shortly after graduating, my first real foray into fantasy sports began, pre-internet, playing USA Today's old game where they'd publish the weekly player values in the paper, and you'd load your team up, and keep track by reading the box scores the next day and filling out the little book they sent you.
And here I am, decades later, still playing that same "silly little game", and ruminating a bit too much about it on a relatively obscure message board. :D
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| | | 171 | GO
ID: 141062421
Tue, Mar 24, 2020, 14:24
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I was also Smallword in 1999... but how did that get us to all come over here around that time? What is the Mike D connection? In leagues with him or knew him personally?
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| | | 172 | Perm Dude
ID: 2915648
Tue, Mar 24, 2020, 14:27
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Khahan: What was your brother's handle?
Smallworld, too--probably about 1997 or so.
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| | | 173 | wiggs
Leader
ID: 04991311
Tue, Mar 24, 2020, 14:34
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i did small world as well when I was in college, Farn and I were college roommates and we would set up our day around the price changes. I wish they would do that again, it was so much fun.
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| | | 174 | Mike D
ID: 292292415
Tue, Mar 24, 2020, 16:29
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Hey all! Great to see so many good people still hanging out virtually and having fun. GO---it was a little of both. Knew some personally, met others online. But we all had that magnetic pull to be Gurupies! Stay safe, my friends!
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| | | 175 | astade
ID: 111521021
Tue, Mar 24, 2020, 17:21
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I started playing fantasy sports in 1999 with Smallworld baseball. One of my high school buddies showed it to me during our free period at the computer lab. Just like Wiggs we would plan our day around the price changes...
I believe Dave Hall posted articles (or maybe they were linked by Smallworld?) and that's how I learned about Rotoguru and this awesome forum. The rest is history :)
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| | | 176 | holt
ID: 491153264
Tue, Mar 24, 2020, 17:54
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I also had earl weaver baseball on a tandy computer. pre-hard-drive era. started with apba baseball which my dad introduced me to. I was maybe 10 yrs old? still have a box full of cards somewhere.
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| | | 177 | loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Tue, Mar 24, 2020, 20:52
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Holt-I played APBA baseball when I was in junior and senior high school, probably just a few years after your dad was playing it himself. I also had the APBA golf game which was fantastic. With a dice roll of 1-1 Palmer would make a 100 foot putt. The APBA horse racing game was mediocre, and I cannot remember if there was APBA football, but there must have been.
I never played Strat-o-matic.
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| | | 178 | holt
ID: 91212918
Tue, Mar 24, 2020, 20:56
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yeah there was a football game that I played a bit but the version I had just had some classic teams that I wasn't familiar with at the time (like 60's era), BUT I certainly learned of the greatness of Jim Brown this way.
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| | | 179 | dpr
ID: 71591613
Tue, Mar 24, 2020, 21:46
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33 Here. I found Rotoguru through Smallworld/TSN and definitely became addicted during the Smallworld period so I guess that puts me late 90s as well although I am not sure how early i migrated over to the forums here. Definitely some found memories playing the Smallworld games and used to love building my roster through the season and especially optimizing my players games played with RSFs schedule analyzer during the basketball season. There was a whole other level of depth which existed in those games although it sadly decayed as the product was sold to various companies.
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| | | 180 | Tree
ID: 161118314
Wed, Mar 25, 2020, 09:14
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man, you guys talking about ABPA made me remember about something I had totally forgotten about. i played a LOT of baseball with Avalon Hill Statis Pro Baseball
i saved EVERY scorecard from EVERY game. I shoved them wherever I had space, eventually filling my dresser to the point i had no place to actually put my clothes. :D
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| | | 181 | GO
ID: 141062421
Wed, Mar 25, 2020, 09:29
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Fantrax has an option with salary cap changes we use for a Nascar game I do with friends. I wonder if same logic isn't available for their baseball.
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| | | 182 | Khahan
ID: 367431722
Wed, Mar 25, 2020, 13:01
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172 - honestly I have no idea anymore what his handle was. He hasn't posted here in almost 20 years.
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| | | 183 | Mike D
ID: 292292415
Thu, Mar 26, 2020, 18:53
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Khahan, a quick search of the General Fantasy Sports Forum (back to the beginning, with RWF, led me to it: adhoo
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| | | 184 | holt
ID: 491153264
Thu, Mar 26, 2020, 19:27
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180 - pretty sure I still have 40 yr old apba stats and box scores in some box out in my garage, you know, in case anyone needs to research them. the most I was able to accomplish with apba was I played out a full 162 game season for the '83 Angels. Once baseball simming became computerized everything changed. The games in the 80's like earl weaver would take a few minutes to sim each game but still, much faster than dice and cards, then at some point in the 90's you could start simming full seasons in one sitting. now i'm sure you can just do it in one click.
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| | | 186 | loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Sun, Apr 05, 2020, 10:21
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I agree with Khahan's suggestions :
If there is no 2020 here is what I'm thinking we should do:
1. Go into 2021 fresh on the draft. Just ignore 2020 draft results
2. 2019 rosters are still frozen and we pick our keepers from that
3. Any picks that were traded in the 2020 draft just get bumped to the 2021 draft.
To me, this makes the most sense. Its not set in stone yet. I'm happy to listen to other ideas. But regarding #3, I would ask that nobody make any trade involving 2021 draft picks until further notice (notice will either be once we hear 2020 is cancelled or once we know the dates and start time for 2020 draft).
If anybody makes a trade of a 2020 draft pick after this email, we will apply that pick first to the 2020 draft. If there is no 2020, apply it to the 2021 draft. I can't imagine any trades happening, but i'd like to have something in place now just to clear up confusion just in case.
Other issues involving the 2020 draft, such as do we continue from where we are, start over etc can be discussed when we have a bit more info.
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| | | 187 | Khahan
ID: 367431722
Mon, Jun 08, 2020, 21:07
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I'm thinking we're rapidly approaching the point of no return where there just can't be a season. My guess is we know one or the other within about 2 weeks.
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| | | 188 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Tue, Jun 23, 2020, 11:09
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Draft?
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| | | 189 | Khahan
ID: 551581418
Tue, Jun 23, 2020, 12:24
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we've got some work to do and we need to move on it to get some items resolved. First up the draft. Do we:
1. want to continue from where we are
2. scrap the first few picks and start over
Keepers, if we back the draft up and start over do we want to:
1. have keepers locked in like they have been
2. allow keepers to be resubmitted
Any other issues to consider - prize pool maybe. Do we want to scrap it for this year?
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| | | 190 | wiggs
Leader
ID: 04991311
Tue, Jun 23, 2020, 13:17
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I say back the draft back to restart, its only 4 picks i think.
Keepers I say we can resubmit keepers but it would need to be done quickly, like within like 2 days or so.
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| | | 191 | Tree
ID: 161118314
Tue, Jun 23, 2020, 13:48
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it's been so long, i don't recollect who picked who. for curiosity sake, can it be posted?
i think scrapping the prize pool for this year is a good idea.
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| | | 192 | Khahan
ID: 551581418
Tue, Jun 23, 2020, 14:44
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I've opened the draft back up
but to keep things easy here's the picks so far:
1.01 Luis Castillo SP (wiggs)
1.02 DJ Lemahieu 2nd (Perm Dude)
1.03 Sonny Gray SP (Bean)
1.04 Luis Robert OF (Goat)
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| | | 193 | holt
ID: 62442015
Tue, Jun 23, 2020, 23:28
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I don't have any preference on anything really. Would make sense to restart the draft. I'd also vote for keeping the $30 if that's something we are voting for but I'm down for whatever.
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| | | 194 | GoatLocker
ID: 492542212
Wed, Jun 24, 2020, 13:25
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I'm not sure if I sent money yet or not. Would need to go to Paypal and look. Either works fine for me.
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| | | 195 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Wed, Jun 24, 2020, 15:48
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My vote on everything is dont care, unless we are voting on whether or not to play.
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| | | 196 | Khahan
ID: 367431722
Wed, Jun 24, 2020, 19:16
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195 - I would ask that you actually cast a vote. The issues being raised have a pretty stark contrast and some sharp opinions. We kind of need to know what the majority of the league wants. Even if your vote is just, "I'd be happy either way, but happier if we did X"
Of course if you want to hold off a bit and see what opinions get posted and see if anything sways you that is fine. The season starts a month from now, so we really don't need to start the draft up right this moment.
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| | | 197 | Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Wed, Jun 24, 2020, 20:05
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I vote to start the draft over and fine with doing keepers over too. I don’t see myself having any keeper changes but see that the situation today can be much different for others.
I’d choose to keep the prize pool. If real basement can end up making it work I think we should try to have as normal of a season of our own too. It’s not so much $$ and can be a bit of an incentive for managers to push that much harder.
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| | | 198 | astade
ID: 315532420
Wed, Jun 24, 2020, 21:53
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I vote to restart the draft and allow keepers to be resubmitted.
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| | | 199 | GoatLocker
ID: 492542212
Thu, Jun 25, 2020, 15:01
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1. want to continue from where we are
2. scrap the first few picks and start over
I guess my answer would be to scrap the few picks and start over. Based on the much shorter season, I would have made a different pick with the 4th choice.
Keepers, if we back the draft up and start over do we want to:
1. have keepers locked in like they have been
2. allow keepers to be resubmitted
I'm fine either way here, don't think I would change my keepers, but never know due to the shorter season.
Any other issues to consider - prize pool maybe. Do we want to scrap it for this year?
I'm fine with staying with it, or scrapping it.
Guess I haven't been much help here :)
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| | | 200 | GO
ID: 552592314
Thu, Jun 25, 2020, 15:23
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Reboot the keepers
Reboot the draft
Play for money - its not like its millions
Pretend its a normal season and lets roll
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| | | 201 | dpr
ID: 355242518
Thu, Jun 25, 2020, 19:24
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Restart draft
Keep Keepers
Keep prize pool
Do we have a plan for adjusting IP? I assume discussion starts at a pro rata level but I worry pitchers are going to have considerable shorter starts and it always has been a challenge to hit our limit so I definitely would be in favor or reducing further
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| | | 202 | dpr
ID: 355242518
Thu, Jun 25, 2020, 19:54
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In terms of resetting keepers what is the logic here? No players have directly been impacted by COVID. Sure some players now are going to be missing a different % of the season then expected but this is always the case. If we go this route it needs to be focused on players who are actually impacted or who who choose to sit out. I dont think there has been discussion around timelines for this but can we afford to wait? What are we targetting as a draft start date (I also feel pretty unprepared at this point)
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| | | 203 | loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Thu, Jun 25, 2020, 20:00
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My preferences:
Restart draft
Keep or resubmit keepers-do not care
Keep prize pool
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| | | 204 | Wiggs
ID: 4510112611
Fri, Jun 26, 2020, 00:31
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Dpr. 2 reasons to restart the draft. There are players who were out 6-8 weeks at the time the draft started who are now healthy and ready to go. That could change a pick for sure. 2nd just because the 1st picked and 5 stalled to wait to see what was happening shouldn’t have been allowed to happen. I could have not picked with pick 1.01 but that’s not how I thought we were doing things.
Only fair way to do this is to reset the whole draft It’s only 4 picks.
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| | | 205 | Khahan
ID: 367431722
Fri, Jun 26, 2020, 02:00
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In terms of resetting keepers what is the logic here? Its something some people have asked for. But from a logistical standpoint our keeper deadline was 4 months before the season started. For some people that's not a good enough reason to redo keepers. For others it is.
I dont think there has been discussion around timelines for this but can we afford to wait? What are we targetting as a draft start date
Season target start date is July 24. I'd like to start the draft June 29th with no clock and turn the clock on June 6. This is a good group of conscientious drafters that traditionally moves quick. If we can knock a round or two out next week, great, but I dont see the point in punishing people how have long weekends planned for 4th of July. I'll be around all week no matter what so no skin off my back either way, but I just dont see the need for a clock with this group at first.
Do we have a plan for adjusting IP? I assume discussion starts at a pro rata level but I worry pitchers are going to have considerable shorter starts and it always has been a challenge to hit our limit so I definitely would be in favor or reducing further Something I hadn't actually given thought to yet, but I dont see why we wouldn't just pro-rata it.
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| | | 206 | Khahan
ID: 367431722
Fri, Jun 26, 2020, 02:13
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My votes:
Start draft over
keepers are locked
keep prize pool
Tallies so far:
Start over draft: 9
Keep going from where we are: 0
Not voted: 3
Keep keepers as submitted: 2
Resubmit keepers: 4
Didn't vote/voted dont care: 6
Prize Pool stays: 5
Prize pool goes: 2
dont care/didn't vote: 5
This is why we need people to actually vote instead of saying they don't care.
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| | | 207 | holt
ID: 491153264
Fri, Jun 26, 2020, 05:20
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restart draft
keep keepers
keep the money
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| | | 208 | Khahan
ID: 551581418
Fri, Jun 26, 2020, 09:46
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Thanks Holt
So its 9-0 in favor of starting over. I think that's pretty much a done deal with a 75% approval rating on the whole and 100% of those checking in.
Reset keepers vs keep keepers: 4-3. This is the one we really need votes on. Thoughts would be appreciated, too.
Prize pool: 5-2 to keep. A few more votes could solidfy this or make it murkier. But we should get that info in.
IP: We dont really know what to expect from the season. Will managers and Scott Boras want their SP to go deeper into each game since its a shortened season and there isn't a long grind to adjust for? Or will bull pens be used like there's no tomorrow? We honestly don't know. So I'm going to propose we just use a straight pro rata. We are currently set for 1400 IP for a full season. 60 games out of 162 is 37% of the season. So 1400*.37=518 IP.
If there's no major objections I can set that as the limit. There has been suggestions in the past to lower the IP, but I think that is a different question. If we want to tackle it, I think it should be applied for 2021. Always open for discussion but i'd really prefer to get starting this season set up off the ground first.
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| | | 209 | wiggs
Leader
ID: 04991311
Fri, Jun 26, 2020, 09:57
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Keep playing for the money
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| | | 210 | Tree
ID: 161118314
Fri, Jun 26, 2020, 12:13
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keep keepers, and no prize pool.
let's just have some fun.
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| | | 211 | GoatLocker
ID: 492542212
Fri, Jun 26, 2020, 12:37
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There have already been a lot of discussions that pitchers for the first 2 - 4 starts will probably only pitch 2 to 3 innings. Early on, I wouldn't be at all shocked to see both teams use at least 4 pitchers if not more.
Just my thoughts based on what I am reading.
And I haven't see a lot on impact to position players, but anticipate there will be some of that also.
And ditto on playing for the money.
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| | | 212 | GoatLocker
ID: 492542212
Fri, Jun 26, 2020, 12:39
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Let me clarify just in case, restart the drafting means starting all over, right.
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| | | 213 | dpr
ID: 355242518
Fri, Jun 26, 2020, 13:18
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204: I agree on restarting draft as that leaves people at inconsistent positions. I was more asking about keepers where we are on level playing field.
205: I would discourage starting with a week long no clock. This is going to be a rapidly evolving situation and I dont think think it is fair to allow people to take extra time because of it. I also think even the 6th is earlier then we need to start given historical time frames to complete the draft
IP: I agree it is uncertain but as GL alludes to I think we can makes some assumptions. My point of referencing my prior pitches to lower IP is to highlight how we are already starting from an elevated level which will likely be more difficult to achieve this season.
I also think we need to discuss more the COVID implications going forward. What happens when a player elects to not participate or gets infested? I think if we restart keepers we at least need to permit some flexibility here. Past that may be too difficult to fairly manage but then we should be clear in that up front. What if the season gets called early, or becomes a total mess due to players sitting out do we still declare a winner? Id vote yes but again lets confirm
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| | | 214 | Khahan
ID: 551581418
Fri, Jun 26, 2020, 16:33
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What happens when a player elects to not participate or gets infested? I think if we restart keepers we at least need to permit some flexibility here. Past that may be too difficult to fairly manage but then we should be clear in that up front. What if the season gets called early, or becomes a total mess due to players sitting out do we still declare a winner? Id vote yes but again lets confirm
These are definitely valid concerns but I just dont know that we are equipped to deal with them - yet. Perhaps the clock on July 6th is too early as we'll only have had a few days of ST to judge things on. I'm fine with pushing the clock back a bit since this league does so well in the draft. And I think maybe some extra time during ST will help prepare us to answer some of the questions DPR is raising.
right now we dont know if any player is going to opt out of playing. Maybe after a week or so of ST we'll get an idea if that is going to happen.
That also makes me reconsider my position against resubmitting keepers. I'm not changing my vote right now, but consider this - if we go with keepers we declared in March, then we may be stuck with players who opted out of the season for personal health reasons but had no information on that.
And to answer goatlocker - yes, we'd wipe away the 4 picks made and start over at 1.01.
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| | | 215 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Fri, Jun 26, 2020, 20:12
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I got an e-mail telling to weigh in. I did in <195>.
I want the perfect answer to all the questions. I wont get a perfect answer to any questions. We are all in the same boat. So, I dont care how this gets settled.
I dont know how to say this any clearer. You want my preference? My preference i have no preference. I prefer you dont ask me again.
Let me know when you know what we are doing.
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| | | 216 | Tree
ID: 161118314
Sat, Jun 27, 2020, 09:53
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I'm not changing my vote right now, but consider this - if we go with keepers we declared in March, then we may be stuck with players who opted out of the season for personal health reasons but had no information on that.
we may see this happen, but it's a keeper league.
Are you going to throw back Mike Trout or Gerritt Cole because they opt not to play this year?
of course, i'm now on the side that now seriously doubts major sports happen before the fall (if not before 2021), if at all. we're literally seeing the largest number of daily cases across the country than we've seen, and despite what your piece of $hit president tells you, things are NOT getting better, this is NOT going away, and there's going to be a lot more suffering and carnage over the next few months.
wear your damned masks.
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| | | 217 | loki
ID: 27547279
Sat, Jun 27, 2020, 10:52
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There are a number of reasons why the season will begin. First there is so much television money involved that I believe that the season will open with attendance strictly limited. Secondly the president will disregard his scientific and medical experts and will push strongly to open the season as evidence that the country is back to "normal." Very unfortunately because of the extremely high rate of contagion, what will rapidly ensue will be spread of the virus among the players, their families and fans who attend. The season will be suspended shortly after it starts.
It is critical medically and for public health that everyone wear masks. Wearing a mask is not a political statement.
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| | | 218 | Tree
ID: 161118314
Sat, Jun 27, 2020, 19:53
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217 - fair enough, i think there's something to be said for that.
and this can't be repeated often enough:
"Wearing a mask is not a political statement."
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| | | 221 | GoatLocker
ID: 492542212
Tue, Jun 30, 2020, 10:01
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Those players who have said they will not play this season.
Mike Leake, Diamondbacks
Ryan Zimmerman, Nationals
Joe Ross, Nationals
Also a list of coaches that will not be in the clubhouse at the start of the season.
GL
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| | | 222 | Tree
ID: 161118314
Wed, Jul 01, 2020, 15:50
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add Ian Desmond to that list.
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| | | 223 | Perm Dud
ID: 39628115
Wed, Jul 01, 2020, 16:39
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Keep the draft
Keep the prize pool
FWIW, With many folks sitting at home, MLB games with no fans in attendance can still be televised and that's where the money is anyway.
Indeed, the teams can play anywhere--minor league stadiums, high schools, etc.
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| | | 224 | Perm Dude
ID: 39628115
Wed, Jul 01, 2020, 19:12
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Keep the keepers, too.
But open up trading.
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| | | 225 | Khahan
ID: 367431722
Wed, Jul 01, 2020, 20:28
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So the final count is 5 for allowing keepers to be resubmitted. 5 to keep them as they were posted and 2 don't really care.
I think without a clear majority I have a middle of the road option:
Keepers submitted in March are our keepers. We'll open up the draft July 13 which gives us about 10 days to complete the draft. Historically that is more than enough time.
If any player named as a keeper opts out of the season BEFORE we start the draft, that manager may replace the keeper if he chooses.
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| | | 226 | wiggs
Leader
ID: 04991311
Wed, Jul 01, 2020, 20:38
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seems fair
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| | | 227 | wiggs
Leader
ID: 04991311
Thu, Jul 02, 2020, 10:50
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oops just realized you werent planning on starting yet, i got the email and made the pick sorry
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| | | 228 | Khahan
ID: 367431722
Thu, Jul 02, 2020, 14:30
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Sorry, had to delete picks made so far. Apologize for the confusion. Normally I'm all for getting a head start but the problem right now is IF we move forward with the idea that keepers sitting out the season can be replaced, we can't start the draft. Potential replacements need to be available. I think most teams wouldn't replace. But some may be shallow enough that they are keeping a prospect or suspect player and others may be deep enough that they have players worth replacing.
Any thoughts on the proposed compromise?
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| | | 229 | GoatLocker
ID: 492542212
Thu, Jul 02, 2020, 19:48
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OK, so drafttime is stopped and I'm not on the clock and timed out. Good to know. Just now looking at email and RotoGuru.
Had a Dental appointment this morning and then straight to work when I got home.
I'll make a comment in the thread in a bit.
GL
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| | | 230 | Khahan
ID: 367431722
Thu, Jul 02, 2020, 20:45
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you aren't timed out goat. the draft started before it should have because I forgot to mention not to start it. Nobody is going to miss their clock or be penalized though.
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| | | 231 | dpr
ID: 355242518
Fri, Jul 03, 2020, 10:39
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I am not sure what could be done as a compromise given all the conditional elements once we get the draft started. Only thing I can think of is an earlier lock on making COVID adjustments that would allow us to get started. I dont see any point in getting started at this point but perhaps we can next week depending on news flow. I am surprised that there hasnt been more since the first plays opten our a few days ago.
Does the keeper adjustment also cover COVID related DL trips (for example if I was keeping Hector Neris?)
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| | | 232 | Khahan
ID: 367431722
Fri, Jul 03, 2020, 16:56
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DPR - i'd have to say no to dl trips. Opening it up for any reason to a DL trip makes room for anybody hitting the DL to be replaced as a keeper. its a valid, legit question and I can see some leagues saying yes to that. But I'm proposing a line in the sand of players who choose to sit out. Any player could hit the DL for any reason - in that sense we're all under the same constraints with our keepers.
Thats my opinion on it, though. Would be happy to hear other thoughts.
Here's my commish perspective on things though - we didn't have enough votes to make a change, ie: keepers right now are locked in. I think this line of thinking is consistent with past proposed changes (things stay the way they are unless a vote to change passes). If we get the end of July 12 without any further vote change or move to settle on a compromise I think we have to just move forward with things the way they are.
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| | | 233 | loki
ID: 57641319
Fri, Jul 03, 2020, 20:42
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My vote is to make no changes.
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| | | 234 | Khahan
ID: 551581418
Mon, Jul 13, 2020, 08:45
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I did set the draft clock for 5 hours for today instead of our normal 4. Because it was stopped, nobody was able to go in and set queues and I dont want any skipped picks because people are a bit off guard. We'll be back to our normal 4 hour clock tomorrow.
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| | | 235 | dpr
ID: 355242518
Mon, Jul 13, 2020, 12:29
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Khahan, thanks for starting the draft. While I dont think we have time to waste and should go to as short a clock as needed in the later rounds I think we have to be careful about timeouts for these first few picks so would be a proponent of pausing the draft if one seems imminent (as it does now). I dont think we can stay untimed for long but it is tough right now given that we just turned it on and I am not sure who has checked in.
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| | | 236 | dpr
ID: 355242518
Mon, Jul 13, 2020, 12:29
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as i post that a pick is made. Point still stands but hopefully wont be relevant and the next few people are able to check in.
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| | | 237 | Khahan
ID: 367431722
Mon, Jul 13, 2020, 12:45
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dpr - thats actually why I changed my autopick timer to 40 mins. Just in case one of the picks before me skipped, I'd have to time to go in and help them out before it got out of hand.
Just an fyi - if anybody has any trouble with draftime, accessing it, freezing on them (hasn't happened for a few years now) or just internet access in general just send your pick to me either by email or facebook and i'll take care of it for you.
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| | | 238 | loki
ID: 406381312
Mon, Jul 13, 2020, 13:39
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Would you enter your email address?
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| | | 239 | Khahan
ID: 551581418
Mon, Jul 13, 2020, 13:57
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here is email.
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| | | 240 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Mon, Jul 13, 2020, 14:01
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when did the draft start, cause i made my pick as soon as I woke. Same guy I picked the last three times. When we start all over again next time, I will still take the same guy FYI.
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| | | 241 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Mon, Jul 13, 2020, 14:35
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Since this is the START of the draft. Shouldn't we be using the same ruleset that all the other Rotoguru Leagues use? As in, the first round isn't timed.
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| | | 242 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Mon, Jul 13, 2020, 14:41
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Also, what are the hours when the draft will be paused? I know those of us who live in civilized time zones are red-headed step children to EDT, but just tell me the rules.
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| | | 243 | wiggs
Leader
ID: 04991311
Mon, Jul 13, 2020, 14:50
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Khahan- I think you are doing a great job and not all the picks were the same in march as they are in july. You did everything you could to make this draft process fair and it is much appreciated. Thank you
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| | | 244 | wiggs
Leader
ID: 04991311
Mon, Jul 13, 2020, 14:52
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actually 3 of the 1st 4 picks were changed
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| | | 245 | Khahan
ID: 367431722
Mon, Jul 13, 2020, 15:27
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draft pauses are midnight (est) to 8am (est).
I'm holding off on setting a draft pause for the weekend like we normally do until we get an idea of how fast we are moving.
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| | | 246 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Mon, Jul 13, 2020, 15:47
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Eastern Standard Time, not Easter Daylight Savings Time?
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| | | 247 | Khahan
ID: 367431722
Mon, Jul 13, 2020, 16:54
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Eastern StranglepeoplewhoasktoomanyquestionsTime. ;)
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| | | 248 | holt
ID: 62442015
Wed, Jul 15, 2020, 00:36
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Is there some way I can see what players are taken in the draft? Trying to update a draft sheet.
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| | | 249 | Tree
ID: 571142323
Wed, Jul 15, 2020, 01:29
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Not while the draft is stopped...
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| | | 250 | Tree
ID: 571142323
Wed, Jul 15, 2020, 01:29
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Not while the draft is stopped...
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| | | 251 | Wiggs
ID: 4510112611
Wed, Jul 15, 2020, 03:14
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Why is the draft stopped?
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| | | 252 | holt
ID: 491153264
Wed, Jul 15, 2020, 03:32
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I figured it was an accidental stoppage but don't know for sure.
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| | | 253 | Dpr
ID: 1633710
Wed, Jul 15, 2020, 06:37
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This happens every year. It stops after 3 rinds until you have paid. Hopefully we can get up and running soon
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| | | 254 | Khahan
ID: 551581418
Wed, Jul 15, 2020, 08:51
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draft is paid. should be up in afew mins.
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| | | 255 | dpr
ID: 355242518
Thu, Jul 16, 2020, 16:10
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In terms of the clock do we have a time when we need to be completed by? The season starts next thursday so if we want to have waivers run and give people the ability to pick up players like we normally would, when does the draft need to be completed by? We normally can complete 2+ rounds in a day which has us looking to finish at some point on Tuesday which I wouldnt think would have us done in time.
I would definitely say we should shorten the clock like we said we intended to and wouldnt recommend having no clock over the weekend. I would hope that we can take steps to finish the draft sooner, be that through further adjustments to the clock or just better use of queues when we need to be away for a few hours. Especially as we enter the later rounds, a short queue can last quite awhile.
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| | | 256 | GO
ID: 552592314
Fri, Jul 17, 2020, 10:05
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We have a slot open in my friends and family H2H leagues, 30 pesos, OBP, 11 categories get a W-L each week (added Total Bases).... will be like a 7 week regular season and then H2H playoffs which Yahoo made standard for all H2H MLB. In case your other leagues have cancelled and you want a little extra fun. Shoot me an email. Live online draft Monday night the 20th.
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| | | 257 | Khahan
ID: 551581418
Fri, Jul 17, 2020, 21:13
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Doesnt look like we're getting thru round 10 so I'm going to leave the clock running thru the weekend. Pause is midnight to 8am est every day.
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| | | 258 | Astade
ID: 58613150
Sat, Jul 18, 2020, 03:33
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Clock is still counting down. Looks like the daily pause has been disabled?
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| | | 259 | Wiggs
ID: 4510112611
Sat, Jul 18, 2020, 08:37
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I was timed out this morning but it didn’t cost me because the next pick didn’t happen.
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| | | 260 | dpr
ID: 355242518
Sat, Jul 18, 2020, 08:44
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Yea it looks like when Khahan shortened the clock the daily pause was reset as well. Hopefully PD checks in soon or Bean can wait until this gets resolved.
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| | | 261 | Khahan
ID: 367431722
Sat, Jul 18, 2020, 09:46
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draft is paused. Didn't realize shortening the clock woudl affect the pauses - they are completely different sections in admin. I'll get PD's pick from him,enter it and move on. pauses are reset, too.
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| | | 262 | Khahan
ID: 367431722
Sat, Jul 18, 2020, 09:47
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PD snuck his pick in there while I was pausing it. We're all good.
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| | | 263 | Tree
ID: 161118314
Sat, Jul 18, 2020, 14:00
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while i know we're on a time crunch, picks have been coming up super fast, and GL got skipped.
If he doesn't pick in the next few, i'm gonna put a couple picks in a queue with a timer set for a couple hours from now...
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| | | 264 | Khahan
ID: 551581418
Sat, Jul 18, 2020, 17:09
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I was out late morning and all day until just now and had auto pick on. We'll make sure he doesn't fall too far behind though.
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| | | 265 | GoatLocker
Dude
ID: 060151121
Sat, Jul 18, 2020, 21:00
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I did not get skipped. It auto picked.
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| | | 266 | Khahan
ID: 551581418
Mon, Jul 20, 2020, 11:12
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Our draft is entered through the current pick (16.07 I believe it is). Please go the league, click draft and choose draft results. Look over your team and let me know of any errors. They are much easier/quicker to fix now than they are once I start the season.
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| | | 267 | dpr
ID: 355242518
Mon, Jul 20, 2020, 11:18
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Khahan. I can spend some time verify some of the picks. I think it would be preferable to start the season today (I am assuming we can finish) to allow waivers to process. Not guarantee I don't miss anything but should catch any large issues.
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| | | 268 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Mon, Jul 20, 2020, 16:43
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Mine looks good
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| | | 269 | dpr
ID: 355242518
Mon, Jul 20, 2020, 17:10
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I skimmed through all the teams and they should be good absent choosing a player with a very similar name or something easier to miss.
Glad to have the draft complete and it will be interesting to see how this season progresses.
GO, I was targetting Syndegaard and Sale with my last picks as just a free potential keeper for next yuear but you beat me to it. Not sure either will be keeper quality looking to next spring but nice options to have. Your draft was certainly the most interesting, swinging for the fences on almost every pick.
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| | | 270 | dpr
ID: 355242518
Mon, Jul 20, 2020, 17:12
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Oh also, Astate and DaBomb really messed me up by taking 8/10 ten second basemen between them which also happens to be the thinnest position outside of catcher. It seemed everyone noticed they were thin here as a result and we have a very high number of 2b drafted. I definitely left myself with a hole here given how I kept waiting!
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| | | 271 | astade
ID: 315532420
Mon, Jul 20, 2020, 17:28
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Sorry that I messed you up. Let me know if you'd like to trade for Hiura or Altuve.
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| | | 272 | Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Mon, Jul 20, 2020, 17:39
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Nice. Can't say that was by design, just went with IMO the best players for those spots and their multi-position flexibility works.
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| | | 273 | Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Mon, Jul 20, 2020, 17:42
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I see there is no trade deadline in the settings. I'd think we need one? We've had them in the past.
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| | | 274 | Khahan
ID: 367431722
Mon, Jul 20, 2020, 20:17
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Trade deadline set for the latest possible (option we always use) which is in september. DPR thanks for the double check. Got the last round entered and began season. We're off and running.
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| | | 275 | Khahan
ID: 367431722
Mon, Jul 20, 2020, 20:21
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And waivers are set to reverse order of draft.
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| | | 276 | dpr
ID: 355242518
Tue, Jul 21, 2020, 13:50
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GO brought these questions last year and I thought it was fun to go through them although would encourage people to use an alternative format if they prefer (Khahan last year added a ton of team by team detail which was great).
1. What was your plan/strategy entering the draft/keepers? Were you able to execute as you had planned?
With keepers I just kept the best players I had. Snell vs Castillo was a bit of challenge but I liked the upside of Snell more so went with him. Going into the draft I felt I had a strong and balanced core so felt that I knew I would be drafting to contend and could focus on drafting the best player available.
2. What were your favorite picks? What picks would you like to do over?
I probably shouldnt have drafted Correa when I did and instead got a more reliable hitter especially as I have SS covered. He offers upside as he is still young but he has failed me too many times. I am pretty excited about my Wander Franco pick and actually considered him much earlier. If you look at dynasty rankings already is considered to be keeper quality. Since I am looking to contend, I held off but what he can offer for the next decade cant be matched. We will have to see what the news cycle is heading into next year to see if I was too early to keep him as a contending team.
3. Looking over all of the teams, which ones do you like the most (other than your own)?
Well I think you have to consider DaBomb the strongest competitor. He started with strong keepers but always seems to get the undervalued players who maybe arent as sexy or grabbing headlines. When I look across the teams there seems to be more of a bunchup in the 3-8 tier then I am used to so this could be a pretty exciting season for competing for the podium, especially with the volatility from a shorter season. I thought Wiggs has done a particularly good job rebuilding a last place team and while podium may be a big jump, a top half finish shouldnt be surprising.
4. What surprised you most about the draft?
With the group drafting together for so many years maybe nothing should be unexpected but I do seem to forget how much this league likes to wait on catchers. Also, just how teams view drafting youth and upside differently, especially as relative to position standings.
5. What is your biggest hole and how do you intend to address it?
As mentioned earlier 2b. I think in a shorter season, determining needs is tougher but will probably look to make a trade at some point. I drafted guys who can help in SBs which I perceived to be biggest need but will want to see how that shakes out (plus Hampson playing time will have a big impact on need). I also may regret not picking a 3rd closer as it will be harder to manage to this category throughout the season to get a top half finish.
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| | | 277 | Tree
ID: 161118314
Tue, Jul 21, 2020, 16:16
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1. What was your plan/strategy entering the draft/keepers? Were you able to execute as you had planned?
I think for most, you're keeping the best guys on your roster, or maybe a hotshot prospect. I felt i had pretty solid positional variety with keepers, 2 SP, 2 OF, and all IF slots except 2b.
my draft strategy was more or less best available early, shifting to needs at some point. I had a bunch of ideas for my first pick, and i ended up getting 5 of those ideas with my first 5 picks, so i think that went right.
2. What were your favorite picks? What picks would you like to do over?
Sal Perez with my last pick. he won't kill me as badly in a BA league, plus, it was my last pick. if he sucks, i'll just drop him and grab someone else. I also like all of my picks in 11 to 15, because all have great breakout potential.
Probably my 10th rounder. I *almost* grabbed Franco here, and should have. I figured he'd last another round. He didn't last another pick.
I also like the overall versatility of my team. With this being a wacky season, i like the fact i have 5 guys who have multi-position eligibility.
3. Looking over all of the teams, which ones do you like the most (other than your own)?
Loki and GO. Loki's gonna hit some bombs and steal some bases, and in a shorter season, someone like Kendrick could hit .600 or something. GO's team screams TALENT. he had a great draft.
4. What surprised you most about the draft?
That I didn't go prospect crazy.
5. What is your biggest hole and how do you intend to address it?
a 60 game season. i'm just gonna roll with it.
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| | | 278 | holt
ID: 466282418
Fri, Jul 24, 2020, 19:28
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wtf - almost everyone on my team is taking a rest on the bench today. this season is going to be el stupido.
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| | | 279 | holt
ID: 62442015
Fri, Jul 24, 2020, 20:40
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So lame. I benched Happ and JD Martinez because yahoo marked them as not starting, but they did start, and they are crushing it. Beware.
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| | | 280 | Khahan
ID: 551581418
Tue, Jul 28, 2020, 09:15
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So perhaps we should have a contingency plan in place in case the season is cancelled. I'd say as of right now I'd go back to post 154 and would rather see everything from 2020 scrapped and just start 2021 with 2019 rosters and trades locked in. I feel right now at least, that we are not far enough into 2020 to make it matter. I'm not sure what the line is where I'd say we should count 2020, but we're not there yet.
Any other thoughts?
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| | | 281 | Tree
ID: 161118314
Tue, Jul 28, 2020, 11:16
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if MLB: Hunger Games does not get through a completed regular season, I'd suggest we roll everything back to post-keeper, pre-draft of this season.
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| | | 282 | dpr
ID: 355242518
Tue, Jul 28, 2020, 12:16
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I agree that it is best to have clarity now. I think there are 2 questions. How much is needed to declare a winner and if we declare this season a wash how do we determine 2021 keepers.
In terms of the former ill say half the proposed season but am relatively indifferent.
For the latter I think we should use current rosters (or maybe post draft). I dont see how we can reset to prior players being released back to the draft pool or how we can force people to kepe a player who is now a year older or even injured fairly.
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| | | 283 | Khahan
ID: 551581418
Tue, Jul 28, 2020, 13:19
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So Tree - your line in the sand is the post season. If we dont reach it, we dont count 2020
And DPR - yours is 30 games?
Just trying to make sure I understand where everybody falls.
As for what we do here's what I'm proposing dpr:
Set a condition. For arguments sake only (since we've only heard from 2 people), lets say its 30 games. If the season is cancelled before we reach 30 games, we scrap everything 2020 related, revert to our 2019 rosters and go into 2021 as if 2020 never occurred. We'd ignore the 2020 draft. Ignore 2020 standings. Ignore everything from 2020. So in 2021 we'd use our 2019 rosters for picking keepers. Trades involvinv 2020 picks would be pushed forward to 2021. Any trades made this year for 2021 picks would get pushed to 2022 picks if there is a conflict (this point can and should be discussed).
If we pass that line in the sand, then we enter 2021 like we've entered every other year since the league started - the draft position, trades, keepers, rosters etc coming from the prior season (2020).
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| | | 284 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Tue, Jul 28, 2020, 15:22
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The season was already a bit lean to consider it meaningful.
I'd like to see a higher number, say 50. It may be that some teams will get to 50 and others wont. For that reason, use an average.
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| | | 285 | astade
ID: 315532420
Tue, Jul 28, 2020, 15:33
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We should carry our current rosters going into the 2021 draft. It shouldn't matter if the 2020 season ends today, 30 games in or if we get through all 60 games.
We are transacting daily and this is a keeper league where we knew what we were getting into before we re-started the draft.
I don't think we should start determining what qualifies the season as a 'mulligan' or not. The games and stats are official. It's a bizarre premise to even consider restoring 2019 rosters for the 2021 draft. This type of revisionism wouldn't sit well with me.
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| | | 286 | astade
ID: 315532420
Tue, Jul 28, 2020, 15:38
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To clarify my post in 285, "We should use our current rosters to determine our Keepers going into the 2021 draft."
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| | | 287 | dpr
ID: 355242518
Thu, Jul 30, 2020, 19:37
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No other opinions?
Anyways, I agree with Astade, it would seem weird to not consider these teams that we are playing with now our teams and have the players reverted to someone else.
In terms of this season counting, yes having even less games will make this even more random but we are already accepting a high amount of that anyway. It seems weird to commit a year to managing a team and then just wipe it out. I would be fine if we called a champion even if the season was called tomorrow.
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| | | 288 | loki
ID: 536512712
Fri, Jul 31, 2020, 12:29
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I would want to use our rosters at the end of the season, whenever that will be.
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| | | 289 | Khahan
ID: 551581418
Wed, Aug 05, 2020, 22:39
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It appears all i need to do to get Josh Bell to hit is put him on my bench.
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| | | 290 | astade
ID: 315532420
Tue, Aug 11, 2020, 23:59
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Pitching Implosions seem to be striking every day.... sometimes even 3 times in 1 day!
I had Castro, Diaz and Taylor give up 7ER in 1.1 innings. Ugh.
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| | | 291 | dpr
ID: 355242518
Thu, Aug 20, 2020, 21:19
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Man 4 Il stints in 24 hours for my hitters. Luckily only 1 stud and the others could be droppable but they are also the guys I was initially counting on to fill out my lineup and bounceback (maybe 1 of Yelich or Bellinger could hit above .200 instead?)
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| | | 292 | Khahan
ID: 367431722
Sat, Aug 22, 2020, 23:04
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Available for Trade: Josh Bell + one of my 3rd basemen (I have 3) for a 1st baseman.
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| | | 293 | dpr
ID: 355242518
Mon, Sep 14, 2020, 18:35
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2 weeks to go and 7 teams still competing for top 3 should make for an exciting end to the season. Going to be tough real in Tree with the time left but in the shortened season anything is possible.
I guess I cant complain too much about my teams overall results but I feel that the output I have gotten has been inversely proportional to what I invested in the players and the categories I am doing best in are the opposite of what I perceived as my strengths. Hitting has been particularly challenging with most positive contributors being picked up off the wire but hopefully some players can finish strong.
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| | | 294 | Tree
ID: 161118314
Tue, Sep 15, 2020, 09:22
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it's definitely been a crazy year.
Considering two of my first five picks and my keeper pitching ace have barely played this season, it's hard to imagine being in it.
But i got pretty insane value from my 11th, 12th, 14th, and 17th round picks, so that may have something to do with it.
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| | | 295 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Mon, Sep 28, 2020, 01:49
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grats Tree
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| | | 296 | Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Mon, Sep 28, 2020, 10:43
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Congrats to Tree. Your second title, and funny you might have been the only one to vote to scrap the prize pool this year. I tried to make it interesting but ran out of time. Maybe if I had 3 more months =)
A wild year and I can't believe MLB was able to complete the regular season after a tumultuous start. I'm glad we were able to play as normal of a season as possible. That wraps up our 17th year.
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| | | 297 | Tree
ID: 161118314
Mon, Sep 28, 2020, 11:48
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you might have been the only one to vote to scrap the prize pool this year.
i thought of that the other day, and i don't even remember what we actually decided to do.
it's been a long time since i won this league, so even in this shortened season, it feels nice.
I led almost wire to wire, and by quite a bit, but you definitely had me sweating in the final few weeks - i had such a commanding lead, but there's a handful of managers that i make me nervous when they start surging, and you're one of them! :D
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| | | 298 | holt
ID: 491153264
Mon, Sep 28, 2020, 19:23
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congrats tree. well done.
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| | | 299 | loki
ID: 178572910
Tue, Sep 29, 2020, 11:57
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Congratulations, Tree!!
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| | | 300 | Khahan
ID: 367431722
Tue, Oct 06, 2020, 18:52
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Congratulations, Tree!
I honestly hadn't even realized the regular season was over. Hardly have time to breath these days. Feel guilty for taking time away from school to even post this. But Tree earned a great victory. Well done, man!
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| | | 301 | Khahan
ID: 34072516
Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 22:22
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Well league- I can't do it. My Commissioner Khahan days are over. If this semester of nursing school has taught me one thing its that I dont have time for a life and most definitely wont have the time next year up to set up the league, set up draftime, enter player etc. I'm putting in a 16 hour day on average about once a week. Most weeks I'm puttig in at least 11-12 hours of school and studying. And weekends- 6-7 hours at the library every saturday and 5-6 hours every sunday.
I had no clue regular season baseball even ended. So I think its in the best interest of the league that I step down as commissioner. I wont take nominations - this league runs itself for the most part, but whoever the new commissioner is has got to be somebody willing to do it on their not - not roped into it. So if you are willing to step up, post here or better yet, shoot me an email.
I'll decide about returning as a manager in jan/early feb. That will be a few weeks into the start of the next semester and I'll have a better feel for if i'll be able to handle a single fantasy team at that point.
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| | | 302 | holt
ID: 491153264
Fri, Oct 16, 2020, 08:06
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Hopefully you'll be able to keep your team. Thanks for your past commishing!
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| | | 303 | loki
ID: 209282216
Thu, Oct 22, 2020, 17:28
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Khahan-I also want to thank you for the time you have put in commishing and hope that you that you will continue to compete in DD.
Also, I hope that someone will be able to take over as commish.
Good luck in your career in nursing. It is demanding as well as rewarding.
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| | | 304 | Tree
ID: 161118314
Thu, Oct 22, 2020, 18:18
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ditto. Thanks for all the work you've done running various leagues. You will be missed a commish, but hopefully you can still play!
(wait, does this mean i don't win the prize pool?!!? lol)
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| | | 305 | Khahan
ID: 551581418
Fri, Oct 23, 2020, 14:42
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(wait, does this mean i don't win the prize pool?!!? lol)
Actually GO was treasurer. Talk to him. ;)
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| | | 306 | Tree
ID: 161118314
Sun, Oct 25, 2020, 17:33
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Collect those funds GO!
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| | | 307 | Khahan
ID: 3605227
Sun, Jan 10, 2021, 22:12
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Hey folks,
Still dont have a firm "I will commish" from anybody. I did get a few (I think 2?) responses a few months back stating they'd be willing to do it if nobody else steps up. I can assure you, with this league, commish is mostly ceremonial. The most work will be the first year you do it - you have to set up the league on draftime again, send invites and make sure everybody registers again. After that, you just hit renew and draftime does everything else. This league practically runs itself.
I can even appoint a commish and co-commish and let you guys share duties if you want.
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| | | 308 | GO
ID: 517342812
Mon, Jan 11, 2021, 12:29
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I can commish it on Yahoo, confirm who is back when I collect etc. But I don't have the time to coordinate Draftime and enter the, trades and players etc.
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| | | 309 | Khahan
ID: 551581418
Mon, Jan 11, 2021, 21:39
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Once we're up and running I'll pass commish to GO to get things started.
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| | | 310 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Mon, Jan 11, 2021, 22:15
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Can give a hand with Draft etc.
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| | | 311 | Khahan
ID: 551581418
Tue, Jan 12, 2021, 08:12
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Cool. I'll pass commish and co-commish duties to Go and Bean.
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| | | 312 | GO
ID: 517342812
Tue, Jan 12, 2021, 13:18
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One thing we can do to prep... confirm you are back.
2021 Dirty Dozen
Confirmed
GO
Bean
Pending
Tree
DaBomb
Holt
Astade
PD
dpr
Wiggs
Loki
Goat
Khahan
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| | | 313 | GO
ID: 517342812
Tue, Jan 12, 2021, 13:21
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Holt already paid his $30 via rollover, so assume hes back.
Tree, Wiggs both haves rollover available from F101 I believe
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| | | 314 | Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Tue, Jan 12, 2021, 14:57
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In
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| | | 315 | Tree
ID: 161118314
Tue, Jan 12, 2021, 15:53
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in
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| | | 316 | loki
ID: 90211216
Tue, Jan 12, 2021, 17:21
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In
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| | | 317 | Khahan
ID: 550201221
Tue, Jan 12, 2021, 22:20
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Uncertain. Classes just started yesterday. Need a bit of time to figure out how much time I will have. I really want to do this - it will be my only fantasy league. Just need to make sure I feel I will be able to actually do it.
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| | | 318 | dpr
ID: 355242518
Wed, Jan 13, 2021, 20:25
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In
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| | | 319 | Wiggs
ID: 4510112611
Wed, Jan 13, 2021, 21:09
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In
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| | | 320 | astade
ID: 570101323
Thu, Jan 14, 2021, 00:11
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In
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| | | 321 | GO
ID: 517342812
Thu, Jan 14, 2021, 12:04
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2021 Dirty Dozen
Confirmed
GO
Bean
Tree
DaBomb
dpr
Wiggs
Loki
Astade
Pending
Holt
PD
Goat
Khahan
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ID: 355242518
Mon, Jan 18, 2021, 12:21
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Obligatory pitch of my guys for anyone looking to improve there keeper list going into the season. Most of my keepers took a step back last year but I still have several excess top 50 guys who should certainly be kept as well as a few others who could improve many lists.
I would only move the first 4 listed for players that would improve my overall keeper list but would move the rest for picks. Of my top guys I am looking to move 1-2 pitchers and a hitter and I am leaning towards keeping Franco.
Top 50
Yelich
Bellinger
Darvish
Bregman
Rendon
Alonso
Snell
Lynn
Franco
Keeper Lights
Hendricks
Clevinger
Sale
Correa
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| | | 323 | holt
ID: 491153264
Mon, Jan 18, 2021, 19:39
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i'm in
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| | | 324 | GoatLocker
ID: 1611722
Mon, Feb 01, 2021, 11:15
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I’m in. Sorry for delay.
GL
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ID: 517342812
Mon, Feb 01, 2021, 12:41
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League is renewed, thanks Khahan.
2021 Dirty Dozen
Confirmed
GO
Bean
Tree
DaBomb
dpr
Wiggs
Loki
Astade
Holt
Goatlocker
Pending
PD
Khahan - wait and see
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| | | 326 | Khahan
ID: 3605227
Mon, Feb 01, 2021, 15:40
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I'm in.
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ID: 517342812
Mon, Feb 01, 2021, 16:00
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Now we're talking! messaged PD... always good to not have to hunt for replacements.
Whenever they lock in Opening Day -- we'll do keepers/draft start 3 weeks before that.
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ID: 517342812
Mon, Feb 01, 2021, 16:11
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So who is trading?!
Keeping for sure
Bo Bichette
Luis Robert
Aaron Nola
Zac Gallen
Would re-shuffle anyone here, have some across multiple leagues like to mix it up.
Freddie Freeman
Nolan Arenado
Bryce Harper
Alec Bohm
Ryan Mountcastle
Jeff McNeil
Josh Hader
Noah Syndergaard
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| | | 329 | Perm Dude
ID: 3310302519
Mon, Feb 01, 2021, 16:35
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In!
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| | | 331 | Tree
ID: 161118314
Tue, Feb 02, 2021, 09:07
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my entire roster is a roster of keepers.
Mike Troutfishing in America
J-Ram
Mr. Met Francisco Lindor
Kyle "60-60" Tucker
Brandon "Get" Lowe
Matt Olsen Twins
Big Sal E Perez
Joey, Ernest, and Julio Gallo
Ramon y queso Laureano
What's our vector Victor Robles
Nick Solak: The Night Stalker
Leody deodi deadi Tavares
David Fletcher in the Rye
Brian Not Ryan or Ian Anderson
Shane Justin Beieber
Corbin Burnes-en
The Zach Plesac Attack
Raisel Julio and Enrique Iglesias
Ryan Elvis Pressly
Taylor Swift Kenny Rogers
Pablo Honey Lopez
Mike Ace Soroka
Justin Time Verlander
Anthony 5 Pound Bass
Tanner Boyle Houck
Spencer Turnbull at Four
Dylan Cease and Desist
seriously, i feel like i have close to 20 keepers there, so please feel free to email me if there's someone you like....
upgrades, picks, upgrades AND picks, the Barrymore Flyfisher Bodega is open for business.
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ID: 4015628
Tue, Feb 02, 2021, 10:28
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Potential Keepers and trade pieces:
Most likely looking at:
Trea Turner
Trevor Story
Ozzie Albies
Yoan Moncada
Jack Flaherty
Stephen Strasburg
Other pieces worth checking out:
Lourdes Gurriel Jr
Nick Castellanos
Matt Chapman
Frankie Montas
Since we have 2 Util slots I'm not too overly concerned with having 2 of the top rated SS. But i'm always willing to listen to offers that diversify my list a bit.
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ID: 355242518
Fri, Feb 26, 2021, 09:15
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Do we have a date for when keepers will be due and the draft will be starting? We have traditionally done mid march so I assume we are looking at something only a couple weeks from now.
Pitching my guys again for a team looking improve keeper list. The guys in the top grouping would improve almost any keeper list (with guys at the top requiring player for player swaps and the bottom of first list available for picks perhaps).
The second list would be real cheap if someone wants a backend keeper at a discount or to play a longer term strategy (e.g. Clev/Sale)
Top 50
Yelich
Bellinger
Darvish
Bregman
Franco
Rendon
Snell
Alonso
Lynn
Keeper Lights
Hendricks
Clevinger
Sale
Correa
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| | | 334 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Fri, Feb 26, 2021, 09:48
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Since I will be running the draft, I hope I might have some voice in this. I'm doing it for three keeper leagues this year along with RIBC AAA, so there's much for me to do.
This is what I am using for 8 MEN OUT (we're still looking for two more if interested):
15 MAR ALL Keepers Due (Rotoguru thread)
16 MAR TARGET BEGIN MLB Draft (Draftime)
30 MAR TARGET END MLB Draft
01 APR Start of Season
Look OK?
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| | | 335 | GO
ID: 517342812
Fri, Feb 26, 2021, 12:05
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I think all that seems fine. If I recall, i usually always tried to start it to time with the opening round of March Madness... a good reminder of course but also because Final Four weekend (2 weeks later) usually matched up with Opening Day/Weekend.
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| | | 336 | loki
ID: 191562614
Fri, Feb 26, 2021, 15:56
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Looks fine.
Keep it as easy as possible for yourself.
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| | | 337 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Fri, Feb 26, 2021, 16:32
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I set up Draft Time, please join
HERE.
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| | | 338 | wiggs
Leader
ID: 04991311
Sat, Feb 27, 2021, 10:22
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Potential Keepers Could be had in a trade if the offer blows me away
Tatis
Devers
Springer
Judge
Biggio
Giolito
Scherzer
Trade Pieces had for small draft pick upgrades
Grishem
Rosario
Diaz
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| | | 339 | Khahan
ID: 4015628
Sun, Feb 28, 2021, 09:44
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***Trade announcement***
Khahan trades Trea Turner to HomeRunners
Home Runners trades Pete Alonso and Blake Snell to Khahan
Updated keeper list for Khahan
Trevor Story
Ozzie Albies
Yoan Moncada
Pete Alonso
Jack Flaherty
Blake Snell
Players to be had for mid round picks:
Stephen Strasburg
Lourdes Gurriel (who should pick up 1st base eligibility)
Matt Chapman
Franmil Reyes
Alex Verdugo
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| | | 340 | dpr
ID: 355242518
Sun, Feb 28, 2021, 10:48
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Confirmed.
Khahan FYI we keep 7 players.
Keepers
Yelich
Bellinger
Turner
Darvish
Bregman
Rendon
Franco/Lynn
Leftovers
Hendricks
Sale
Clevinger
Correa
Still working on my last spot so would be open to pairing Lynn with Rendon/Bregman for a player at a non redundant position on my team or moving Lynn for a strong draft pick.
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| | | 341 | Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Sun, Feb 28, 2021, 16:50
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Keeping
DJ LeMahieu
Marcell Ozuna
Gleyber Torres
Jacob deGrom
Kenta Maeda
Likely keeping
Eugenio Suárez
Keeping 1 from here/availability list
Ketel Marte
Charlie Blackmon
Carlos Carrasco
Charlie Morton
Luis Severino
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| | | 342 | Khahan
ID: 4015628
Sun, Feb 28, 2021, 22:01
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Khahan FYI we keep 7 players.
shit, you'd think by now I wouldn't need reminded of that.
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ID: 50263122
Mon, Mar 01, 2021, 10:58
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keepers:
Juan Soto
Manny Machado
Xander Bogaerts
Corey Seager
Randy Arozarena
Gerrit Cole
Max Fried
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| | | 344 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Mon, Mar 01, 2021, 11:55
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I have started a new thread for 2021. Please move your discussions there now.
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