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Subject: 8 Men Out 2020 campaign


  Posted by: Khahan - [367431722] Wed, Feb 19, 2020, 15:06

Hey All. Looking to get things rolling with the 2020 season for the 8 men out league. I sent out a league-wide email about 1 1/2 weeks ago. Unfortunately I've only heard back from about 3 or 4 people. Out of those, 1 person is declining to return.
Do we have the interest to continue this league?
 
1Tree
      ID: 161118314
      Wed, Feb 19, 2020, 16:21
i'm totally game!
 
2Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Wed, Feb 19, 2020, 19:33
I am in
 
3WG
      ID: 89402220
      Wed, Feb 19, 2020, 20:51
I am in
 
4VampireWeekend
      Dude
      ID: 24100310
      Thu, Feb 20, 2020, 13:16
In
 
5Khahan
      ID: 367431722
      Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 00:33
crack babies checked in with me. we aren't even up to half confirmed yet. This is getting worrisome.
 
6Khahan
      ID: 367431722
      Mon, Feb 24, 2020, 15:49
For Posterity's sake, our league constitution:
Welcome back everybody to year 7 of the 8 Men Out Keeper league. Its still early so not much going yet. As a reminder, below is our league constitution:

Positions for 24 round draft:

C, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, SS, RF, CF, LF, MI, CI Util
SP, SP, RP, Px4
Bench x 6
DL x2
NAx1

Categories:
Runs, Rbi's, HR, SB, BA
W, Saves+Holds, K's, ERA, Whip

14 points for 1st place in a given category down to 1 point for 14th place. The winner will be the team with the most overall points after the last day of the regular season ends. If there are any make up games scheduled after the last day, those games will count if hosting site rules allow

Season limits:
1350 IP
162 games played per roster slot for hitters

Keeper Rules
Managers may keep 0-9 players. Players kept count against the draft round they were chosen in. Draft rounds follow traded players but can be changed to any earlier round in the first draft following the trade. Declaration of the new round is required at the time of keeper declaration.
In-season pick ups have no draft slot so they cannot be kept.
If you do not have multiple picks in a given round, you cannot keep multiple players tied to that round.
To be keeper eligible, a hitter must have a minimum of 50 career at-bats and a pitcher must have a minimum of 20 career IP.

Example 1: I draft Ted Williams in round 1. Later in the season I make a trade which brings in Mickey Mantle who was also drafted in round 1. I may keep either Williams or Mantle, but not both.

Example 2: I draft Ryan Sandberg in round 5. Via trade I also acquire Andre Dawson who was drafted in round 5. And via a second trade, I acquire a 2nd 5th round pick. I may now keep both Sandberg and Dawson in round 5. (however note - the next season if I do not obtain a second R5 pick I will only be able to keep 1 of the players). I may also keep Sandberg in Round 5 and Dawnson in any round 1-5 provided I have a slot available for him

Example 3: I draft Ryan Sandberg in round 5 of the 2014 draft. During the season I trade my 2015 round 5 pick. I may no longer keep Sandberg unless I acquire a round 5 pick before keepers are declared.

Example 4: I draft Sandberg in round 5 in 2014. I trade away my round 5 pick in 2015 but acquire Dawson who was also a 2014 round 5 pick. I may not keep either in round 5. Dawson's draft round came with him, and come keeper time I dont have a round 5 pick. I may not keep Sandberg any longer as there is no draft slot to put him in. I may declare Dawson as a keeper in any round of 1-4 as long as I have a keeper slot available.

Keepers are due 18 days before the first game of the regular season.

Keeper eligible rounds should be determined by checking the prior years draft results at draftime.com not at the yahoo league site.

Manager Expectations
Managers are expected to play a full season. Giving up part way, ignoring trade offers, your team or the league can result in your removal from the league.


Trades
Trades must be balanced against a maximum of 24 players on a given team and 24 rounds of draft for each manager. Outside of that, trades may be vetoed at the commissioner's discretion if he feels there has been collusion or cheating of some kind behind the trade. Otherwise, trades will be assumed to be acceptable and pass after 24 hours unless there is an objection. If an objection is raised there will be a league-wide vote. If more than 50% of managers not involved in the trade vote against the trade, it will be vetoed. Otherwise, it will pass 48 hours after initially being accepted by all managers involved.

If you receive a keeper eligible player via trade, you may move that player's keeper round up during the keeper declarations after you received him. All other keeper rules still apply.
Example - in 2014 Khahan drafted Billy Hamilton in round 6. During the 2015 I trade him to another manager. In the 2016 keeper declaration Billy Hamilton may be declared as a keeper in any round 1-6 provided the manager has a draft slot free. For all future years that Hamilton remains a keeper that chosen round is now considered his keeper round.


Draft
In 2014 the draft will be a randomly ordered 24 round snake draft. Following years the draft will not snake. The order will be determined by how you placed the prior year. Teams finishing in 11-14 place will be in a lottery for the first 4 draft slots. All other teams will be reverse order of finish.

Any player in the Yahoo database is eligible for the draft. The minimum at-bat and IP rules for keepers do not apply for the draft.

The draft will commence 2 days after keeper declaration and (for now) will be held at
Draftime.com with the league hosting site at Yahoo.

The lottery draft will be held shortly after the end of the regular season (to better facilitate offseason trading).

Draft Guidelines
We will have a slow draft as noted at draftime.com
Each draft slot will have a 4 hour window to make your pick. If you do not make a pick in the allotted time the next manager may go. You can make up your pick whenever you get back but forfeit the right to any players picked after you missed time. If the draft comes back to you before you make a missed pick, those future picks will be allotted 0 time until you are caught up. The clock will be shut off from 1am to 7am EST M-F and will not run on weekends - subject to change if we must meet a deadline.

Shohei Ohtani
As of 2018 yahoo has announced that Shohei Ohtani will have a player slot as a pitcher and a hitter. We will be treating these players as 2 distinct players. For intents and purposes there is a player named Shohei Ohtani who is a pitcher and a second player named Shohei Ohtani with hitting eligibility.

If we change hosting sites to a site that uses a single Shohei Ohtani or Yahoo updates to a single Shohei in future years we will handle the combining as follows:
1. If No manager has either Shohei he is drafted like any other player
2. If 1 manager has 1 Shohei and the other is not on a roster, that manager can name Shohei as a keeper
3. If 1 manager has both Shohei's he can choose either players round to make the new single Shohei a keeper
4. If 2 different managers each have different halves of Shohei, they can each submit a blind bid to keep the new singularity-Shohei. The manager who submits the earliest round gets Shohei. If there is a tie the manager will the earliest draft pick keeps him. He will be kept in the round of the submitted bid. Example I have Pitcher Shohei in r8 and Bean has hitter Shoehei in round 11 and he becomes 1 player next year, we both submit a blind bid. If I submit my bid as round 3 and Bean submits round 4, I keep Shohei as a R3 keeper.



A full, active league is extremely important to a fun time for all. A few managers seemed to give up on their teams and did not even check in on their team the final month. I will be keeping an eye on these teams and if at any point I feel a lack of interest is becoming the norm I will find a replacement manager. Please, a league like this is comprised of 13 other people who are all here to compete. If you truly do not feel you can stay focused for a full season bow out. If you have shit come up and fantasy baseball simply isn't your focus and you opt out on your own, I'll gladly give you first crack down the road to return when your situation changes. But if it gets to the point that I remove you - you're done. So please, give consideration not just to your schedule but to everybody else's schedule as well.

*Note - there were no rules changes from 2019 to 2020. However the italicized parts above reflect tweaks made to the constitution to clarify rules already in place.
 
7C1-NRB
      ID: 19122415
      Mon, Feb 24, 2020, 16:02
I thought I replied, but maybe I didn't.

I'm In.
 
8taxman
      SuperDude
      ID: 029463114
      Mon, Feb 24, 2020, 16:53
In
 
9Tree
      ID: 161118314
      Mon, Feb 24, 2020, 18:29
Yoan Moncada and Bryce Harper are both available in the right deal.
 
10Thumqer
      ID: 39230821
      Mon, Feb 24, 2020, 19:57
I’m in sorry for the wait
 
11Khahan
      ID: 367431722
      Mon, Feb 24, 2020, 20:51
Checking in so far we have:
1. Khahan
2. Wiggs
3. Tree
4. crack babies
5. Bean
6. Wazzup Guy
7. Vampire Weekend
8. C1-NRB
9. Thumqer

Checking in that they will not be returning was foot soldiers.
Thats 10/14 checking in, 9/14 that are in. I'm giving people until Thursday to check in, if not, the spot is up for grabs.
Still waiting to hear from:
1. baseball bugs
2. gurudan
3. taxman
4. Power of Lemke

All 3 of the gurupies are also in ribc AAA and responded there.
 
12Thumqer
      ID: 39230821
      Mon, Feb 24, 2020, 21:04
Keeper options available for trade

2 Mondesi, Adalberto SS KAN
3 Ramirez, Jose 2B CLE
4 Blackmon, Charlie CF COL
5 Senzel, Nick 3B CF
6 Martinez, J.d. CF BOS
7 Alonso, Pete 1B NYM
10 Laureano, Ramon CF OAK
11 Contreras, Willson C CHC
12 Heaney, Andrew SP LAA
14 Marte, Ketel 2B ARI
16 Nola, Aaron SP PHI
18 Hader, Josh RP MIL
20 Ray, Robbie SP ARI
21 Flaherty, Jack SP STL
22 Alvarez, Yordan 1B HOU
24 Mancini, Trey 1B BAL
 
13el fatador
      ID: 221571718
      Tue, Feb 25, 2020, 04:18
Hey boss. Can you let us all know who is not in cause that might change who I keep and who I do not.
 
14el fatador
      ID: 221571718
      Tue, Feb 25, 2020, 04:20
Sorry. Just noticed the list already posted. Get up early and forgot to refresh the page from early yesterday.
 
15 fear the monkey
      ID: 241301817
      Tue, Feb 25, 2020, 09:35
I sent my response that I was in. I suppose the emails labeled undeliverable that were returned from Yahoo were them. Tentative keepers

#1 BREGMAN
#3 BUMGARNER
#6 ANDRUS
#7 MARKAKIS
#8 KHRIS DAVIS
#9 YATES
#10 GEO SPRINGER
#24 TAYLOR ROGERS
I believe these are correct. Check and let me know if wrong. Thanks Dan
 
16 WG
      ID: 89402220
      Tue, Feb 25, 2020, 21:02
Trade assets, need to keep 1. Believe this is accurate:

4 - Michael Conforto
9 - Luke Voit
9 - Nick Castellanos
11 - JT Realmuto
13 - Mike Moustakas
24 - Matt Boyd
 
17Khahan
      ID: 17150266
      Wed, Feb 26, 2020, 07:50
Just need to hear back from taxman and art of monk.
 
18Khahan
      ID: 17150266
      Wed, Feb 26, 2020, 07:50
Just need to hear back from taxman and art of monk.
 
19wiggs
      ID: 01182010
      Wed, Feb 26, 2020, 15:09
Keepers for now
bogarts 2
freeman 3
torres 12
Synderguaard 15
Seager 19
Soroka 20
 
20artofmonk
      ID: 57147279
      Thu, Feb 27, 2020, 10:48
I am in.
 
21artofmonk
      ID: 57147279
      Thu, Feb 27, 2020, 15:47
what is the draft order?
 
22Khahan
      ID: 551581418
      Thu, Feb 27, 2020, 20:21
should have all that done this weekend. Tax has checked in at the league page so everybody is good to go except baseball bugs and foot both of whom are not returning. So start scouring for 2 new managers.
 
24taxman
      SuperDude
      ID: 029463114
      Fri, Feb 28, 2020, 12:23
also checked in in post 8 above

thinking but uncertain @ potential keepers
1. Benintendi
3. Mookie Betts
4. Lourdes Gurriel
6. Luis Castillo
7. Carlos Santana
8. Kyle Hendricks
9. Jean Segura
11 Anthony Rendon
12 Mike Clevinger

but offer me something to change my mind

 
25 fear the monkey
      ID: 241301817
      Fri, Feb 28, 2020, 15:51
dropping Markakis as a keeper. I eliminated him at Yahoo
 
26Khahan
      ID: 367431722
      Sat, Feb 29, 2020, 14:04
the lottery is complete and we have our draft order:

1. Bean
2. Wiggs
3. Art of Monk
4. Open Team (baseball bugs)
5. Fear the Monkey
6. Khahan
7. Tree
8. c1 Stocking feet
9. Crack Babies
10. Taxman
11. Thumpers
12. Open Team (Foot Soldiers)
13. Vampire Weekend
14. Waazup Guy
 
27Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Sun, Mar 01, 2020, 13:33
Do we have a tentative deadline date for keeper declaration?

Any potential replacement managers yet?
 
28Khahan
      ID: 367431722
      Sun, Mar 01, 2020, 16:40
Season begins March 26 this year. Keepers are due 18 days before then - March 8 (this was emailed I believe). Draft is 2 days after that.

As for the 2 managers - Taxman referred me to a friend of his. I reached out but have not heard back yet. We're getting close to crunch time here. At this point I think contraction is the best bet. Just drop down to 12 teams and throw those players back in pool.

Let's see what everybody else feels, please vote:

1. Contract the 2 teams if not claimed by March 6 (gives 2 days planning for keeper decisions)

2. Hold them with reasonable keepers as ghost teams and see if they get picked up mid-season

Please vote on those 2 options.
 
29VampireWeekend
      ID: 3214116
      Sun, Mar 01, 2020, 17:14
Option 1
 
30Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Sun, Mar 01, 2020, 17:52
Option 1
 
31 Fear the monkey
      ID: 459311614
      Sun, Mar 01, 2020, 18:40
I vote for Op. #1
 
32taxman
      SuperDude
      ID: 029463114
      Sun, Mar 01, 2020, 19:00
option # 1

(I have tried to reach the proffered manager this w/e but he appears to be disconnected from internet/phone. I am in several other leagues with him so give him through Monday to surface?
 
33el fatador
      ID: 221571718
      Mon, Mar 02, 2020, 07:22
Option 1. Throw them fish back in the pond.
 
34wiggs
      ID: 01182010
      Mon, Mar 02, 2020, 08:49
option 1
 
35Khahan
      ID: 367431722
      Mon, Mar 02, 2020, 14:58
we have 1 manager taking a team. I'm emailing him the rosters and letting him choose. Taxman - thanks for the referral.
 
36Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Mon, Mar 02, 2020, 15:00
I asked a guy who is in two leagues with me. He said he would take a look over the weekend. I'll hit him up today to see what he thinks.
 
37Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Mon, Mar 02, 2020, 15:18
nevermind, he decided no
 
38Thumqer
      ID: 39230821
      Tue, Mar 03, 2020, 09:27
I sent this to a couple mgrs as wel
 
39 dhamm6500
      ID: 3913449
      Tue, Mar 03, 2020, 09:45
FNG checking in. Registered on Yahoo. Taxman never thinks I am in enough leagues!
 
40Thumqer
      ID: 39230821
      Tue, Mar 03, 2020, 11:17
Trade Announcement

Lemme receives (their keeper round next to their name)
2 Mondesi, Adalberto SS KAN
11 Contreras, Willson C CHC
12 Heaney, Andrew SP LAA
20 Ray, Robbie SP ARI
Thumper’s last 3 draft picks after keepers are selected

Thumper receives Lemke’s 1st, 3rd and 9th round pick.

Lemke to confirm.
 
41artofmonk
      ID: 57147279
      Tue, Mar 03, 2020, 13:12
This Power of Lemke- Confirmed trade
 
42 Tree
      ID: 161118314
      Wed, Mar 04, 2020, 07:13
Bryce Harper (rd 1) and Yoan Moncada (2) are still available.
 
43C1-NRB
      ID: 38250410
      Wed, Mar 04, 2020, 12:27
Will there be a Keeper thread started?
 
44Khahan
      ID: 367431722
      Wed, Mar 04, 2020, 13:03
No C1, just post in this thread.
 
45 Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Wed, Mar 04, 2020, 13:52
Bean's Keepers:

05 Nelson Cruz, DH, MIN
06 Max Muncy, 3B, LAD
12 Cesar Hernandez, 2B, CLE
14 Kenta Maeda, SP, MIN
17 Francisco Lindor, SS, CLE
19 Julio Tehran, SP, LAA
24 Corey Dickerson, OF, MIA

If you counted, you'd see I have only seven keepers now. Open to offers of your excess bargain keepers for pick upgrades. Use the blue link and be specific about what pick you expect for each player if you are interested. Keep in mind, I have the first pick in each round this year.

 
46artofmonk
      ID: 57147279
      Wed, Mar 04, 2020, 16:23
The Power of Lemke Keepers:

02 Adalberto Mondesi, SS, KC
04 Starling Marte, OF, AZ
05 Anthony Rizzo, 1B, CUBS
06 Eddie Roasrio, OF, MIN
07 Trevor Bauer, SP, CLE
10 Amed Roasrio, SS, NYM
11 Wilson Contreras, C, CUBS
12 Marcell Ozuna, OF, ATL
20 Robbie Ray, SP, AZ

 
47Thumqer
      ID: 39230821
      Wed, Mar 04, 2020, 19:05
Thumpers keepers

3 Ramirez, Jose 3B CLE
6 Martinez, J.d. CF BOS
7 Alonso, Pete 1B NYM
10 Laureano, Ramon CF OAK
14 Marte, Ketel 2B ARI
16 Nola, Aaron SP PHI
18 Hader, Josh RP MIL
21 Flaherty, Jack SP STL
22 Alvarez, Yordan OF HOU

Extras available for a pick swap
4 Blackmon, Charlie CF COL
5 Senzel, Nick 3B CF
24 Mancini, Trey 1B/OF BAL
 
48VampireWeekend
      ID: 3214116
      Wed, Mar 04, 2020, 21:26
1 Mike Trout CF LAA
2 Manny Machado 3B SS SD
3 Max Scherzer P WAS
4 Jose Abreu 1B CWS
5 Christian Yelich RF MIL
7 Eugenio Suarez 3B CIN
9 Trevor Story SS COL
14 Blake Snell P TB
21 Jeff McNeil 2B SS LF RF

Wake me up for round 6
 
49WG
      ID: 89402220
      Wed, Mar 04, 2020, 23:40
WG Keepers

1 Ronald Acuna, OF, ATL
3 Jonathan Villar, 2B/SS, BAL
5 Jacon deGrom, SP, NYM
6 Gerrit Cole, SP, NYY
11 J.T. Realmuto, C, PHI
12 Trea Turner, SS, WAS
14 Cody Bellinger, 1B/OF, LAD
15 Walker Buehler, SP, LAD
16 Kris Bryant, 3B/OF, CHC

Available
4 Michael Conforto, OF, NYM
9 Luke Voit, 1B, NYY
9 Nick Castellanos, OF, CIN
13 Mike Moustakas, 2B/3B, CIN
24 Matt Boyd, SP, DET
 
50el fatador
      ID: 221571718
      Thu, Mar 05, 2020, 07:37
Anyone interested in trading for Kershaw.
 
51Khahan
      ID: 367431722
      Thu, Mar 05, 2020, 07:59
Khahan's Keepers

1 Juan Soto LF
2 Vlad Guerrero JR 3rd
12 Marcus Semien SS
13 Tyler Glasnow SP
14 Franmil Reyes RF
15 Aaron Judge RF
20 Joc Pederson CF
21 Josh Bell 1st
22 Dylan Cease SP
 
52wiggs
      ID: 01182010
      Fri, Mar 06, 2020, 08:32
Keepers for now
Bogarts 2
Freeman 3
Urias 10
Torres 12
Synderguaard 15
Buxton 16
Rodgers 18
Seager 19
Soroka 20
 
53C1-NRB
      ID: 224769
      Fri, Mar 06, 2020, 10:47
Stocking Feat's Keepers (unless something changes):

1. Tommy Pham (LF,CF)
2. Patrick Corbin (SP)
4. Aroldis Chapman (RP)
5. Shohei Ohtani (UTL)
6. Zack Greinke (SP)
8. Edwin Diaz (RP)
10. Yasmani Grandal (C)
22. Keone Kela (RP)
24. DJ LeMahieu (2B)


 
54 dhamm6500
      ID: 3913449
      Fri, Mar 06, 2020, 12:22
Mudville 9 Keepers

1 Ozzie Albies 2B ATL
2 Eloy Jimenez LF CWS
3 Matt Olson 1B OAK
8 Chris Paddock SP SD
10 Charlie Morton SP TB
12 Matt Chapman 3B Oak
19 Jose Berrios SP Min
21 Francisco Mejia C SD
24 Max Kepler CF,RF MIN
 
55 WG
      Donor
      ID: 35338278
      Fri, Mar 06, 2020, 13:31
Anyone needing SB, I can move Villar (paired with leftover(s)) for a better value keeper.
 
56Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Sat, Mar 07, 2020, 10:36
Got your e-mail:

Reminder - keepers are due by 11:59pm EST tomorrow (that's Sunday) march 8 over at rotoguru. Since we are allowed to keep 0-9 players,failure to post means no keepers at all.

How does daylight savings time affect this? It's advanced math, and my skills have deteriorated over time, but I think your posted time would actually be on Monday. Just want to know how long I can procrastinate. ;)
 
57Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Sat, Mar 07, 2020, 12:01
So, Dhamm took mailedfoot's team. Haven't seen announcement of a second replacement manager. Of the people who actually voted, it seems unanimous that we should play with just 13 managers this season, if we dont get another rep.

We have an impending keeper deadline, and having no 14th manager affects the value of draft picks offered in any trade. It is significant for lower picks.

Will there be an a decision about whether or not the 14th team will be dissolved before the keeper deadline? If so, when?
 
58Thumqer
      ID: 39230821
      Sat, Mar 07, 2020, 12:30
Trade announcement

Bean receives
Trey Mancini, 1B/OF, BAL
Thumpers 19th round pick

thumper receives
Bean’s 7th round pick

Bean to confirm
 
59Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Sat, Mar 07, 2020, 12:45
<58> Confirmed
 
60Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Sat, Mar 07, 2020, 15:10
Bean's Keepers (updated):

05 Nelson Cruz, DH, MIN
06 Max Muncy, 3B, LAD
12 Cesar Hernandez, 2B, CLE
14 Kenta Maeda, SP, MIN
17 Francisco Lindor, SS, CLE
19 Julio Tehran, SP, LAA
24 Corey Dickerson, OF, MIA
24 Trey Mancini, 1B/OF, BAL
 
61taxman
      SuperDude
      ID: 029463114
      Sat, Mar 07, 2020, 15:29
Taxman's Keeper's...updated

3. Mookie Betts
4. Lourdes Gurriel
6. Luis Castillo
7. Carlos Santana
8. Kyle Hendricks
9. Jean Segura
11 Anthony Rendon
12 Mike Clevinger
 
62Khahan
      ID: 367431722
      Sat, Mar 07, 2020, 22:08

How does daylight savings time affect this? It's advanced math, and my skills have deteriorated over time, but I think your posted time would actually be on Monday. Just want to know how long I can procrastinate. ;)


Daylight savings time doesn't affect this. You have until 11:59pm EST Sunday. Whether we put the clocks ahead or back or leave them the same, 11:59pm is 11:59 pm as time stamped on posts on this website.

As for as what to do with the other team - I took it out of the league and out of draftime. We are 13 teams.
 
63Wiggs
      ID: 4510112611
      Sun, Mar 08, 2020, 10:08
Please take bogarts off my keeper list.
 
64Tree
      ID: 161118314
      Sun, Mar 08, 2020, 12:02
my current keepers:

1. Bryce Harper
4. Rafael Devers
5. Victor Robles
7. Fernando Tatis, Jr
8. Shane Bieber
13. Kyle Tucker
14. Yu Darvish
17. Miguel Sano
19. Keston Hiura
 
65el fatador
      ID: 221571718
      Sun, Mar 08, 2020, 13:15
My keepers:
1-Kershaw SP
6-Baez 2B
7-Verlander SP
9-Escobar 3B
13-Kopech SP
17-Brantley LF
18-Anderson SS
21-Gregorious SS
22-M Smith CF

 
66 WG
      Donor
      ID: 35338278
      Sun, Mar 08, 2020, 14:29
Any combo of 3 Villar 9 Castellanos 9 Voit 13 Moustakas 24 Boyd for one good value hitter??
 
67WG
      Donor
      ID: 35338278
      Sun, Mar 08, 2020, 23:29
TRADE

Bean gets 9 Luke Voit, 24 Matt Boyd, and my 24
WG gets Bean’s 12
 
68Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Sun, Mar 08, 2020, 23:32
Confirmed
 
69Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Sun, Mar 08, 2020, 23:39
Bean's Keepers (2nd update):

05 Nelson Cruz, DH, MIN
06 Max Muncy, 3B, LAD
09 Luke Voit, 1B, NYY
14 Kenta Maeda, SP, MIN
17 Francisco Lindor, SS, CLE
19 Julio Tehran, SP, LAA
24 Matt Boyd, SP, DET
24 Corey Dickerson, OF, MIA
24 Trey Mancini, 1B/OF, BAL

Not sure how this works, I have three #24 keepers, and two #24 picks. If i understand things right, I have to choose one to put against 23 this year. Assuming i dont trade a pick again, and still want to keep all three I have to choose one to put against 22 next year. If that's right, make #23 Dickerson, and we will figure out next year when next year arrives. If I got that wrong, then let me know and I will do whatever the rules say.
 
70wiggs
      ID: 01182010
      Mon, Mar 09, 2020, 11:29
So are these keepers locked in? We can start our cheatsheets?
 
71Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Mon, Mar 09, 2020, 11:45
cheating is not authorized Wiggs
 
72Khahan
      ID: 367431722
      Mon, Mar 09, 2020, 22:22
Keepers are all entered at both draftime and yahoo. Draft is open, but clock does not start until later, so no pressure to pick.
PLEASE, double check my work at both sites. At Yahoo you'll have to go to the draft tab and choose results. Report any errors asap.

For those making up cheat sheets, we had a few last minute changes to what is posted:
Crack Babies (el fatador): Kopech was not keeper eligible (only 14.1 career IP, did not meet minimum requirements).
Mallex Smith was not keeper eligible. He had been dropped and picked up as a FA.

Via text one of those was replaced in time: Hyun-jin Ryu round 16 was kept.
 
73wiggs
      ID: 01182010
      Tue, Mar 10, 2020, 08:27
I am here and ready to pick, but waiting to hear back from Khahan- I emailed him because I wrote in post 63 I was not keeping Bogarts and I wanted that cleared up before we went on with the draft. I do not think it will change pick 1, but it might change something going forward.

 
74Khahan
      ID: 367431722
      Tue, Mar 10, 2020, 09:37
Bogaerts is out. When we get to round 2, Wiggs will have to send me the pick he wants since drafttime has that slot marked as a keeper slot with a missed pick.
 
75Khahan
      ID: 367431722
      Tue, Mar 10, 2020, 09:41
Also, we'll start the draft clock tomorrow morning (wednesday march 11) at 8am EST. Gives everybody a little bit of time to work on draft sheets.
 
76wiggs
      ID: 01182010
      Tue, Mar 10, 2020, 10:10
I sent you a 5 man queue that will get me through my next pick and then we should be good again
 
77WG
      Donor
      ID: 35338278
      Tue, Mar 10, 2020, 10:47
Think we need to stop and let Wiggs pick?
 
78Wiggs
      ID: 4510112611
      Tue, Mar 10, 2020, 10:51
It’s ok to this point. My next pick was Austin meadows. Hopefully Khanan sees this
 
79Khahan
      ID: 367431722
      Tue, Mar 10, 2020, 12:02
I emailed KKB to add austin meadows. He's on Wiggs team in yahoo, so shouldn't show as available if you are using that list.
Meadows is off the board, if you pick him and the draft moves on, tough cookies.
 
80Khahan
      ID: 367431722
      Tue, Mar 10, 2020, 12:27
And tax had auto draft which we all like to see, but it was meadows. So draft is paused again so we dont get ahead and screw somebody. Soon as Tax gets me his pick we can move on.
 
81Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Tue, Mar 10, 2020, 17:55
<15> I dont see Markakis on gurudan's Draft Time roster. He seems to be available to draft.
 
82Khahan
      ID: 551581418
      Tue, Mar 10, 2020, 20:59
As far as markakis goes, in post 25 he said he is not keeping markakis.
 
83gurudan
      ID: 5972117
      Wed, Mar 11, 2020, 17:25
markakis is avaiable
 
84Khahan
      ID: 367431722
      Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 16:06
I'm turning the clock off for now. Any drafted player may stand. For now we'll just run with no clock. Willing to listen to arguments to stop draft altogether for a certain amount of time.
 
85Tree
      ID: 161118314
      Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 16:42
if we do suspend the draft, we should do so at the end of a round.
 
86VampireWeekend
      ID: 442541216
      Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 17:54
Since there are often developments in spring training that impact decisions, it makes sense to me to suspend until we hear updates on the mlb plan. There is certainly no rush to draft at this point.
 
87Khahan
      ID: 551581418
      Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 19:37
I'll save everybody the anxiety over checking in constantly. Since most seem to be in favor of suspending the draft, I have no intention of picking. Essentially we are stopped. But I'm not pausing the draft because then nobody can check in, work on spreadsheets, set up queues etc.

I will email the league when we are ready to start moving again.
 
88taxman
      SuperDude
      ID: 029463114
      Sat, Mar 14, 2020, 13:01
this is a heads up to the league. As I previously wrote Khahan.....I may be a MIA problem when you get around to restarting draft.

Due to my wife's and my age and her multiple open heart surgeries..air travel to California is now not an option. Don't know when we start the drive, but expect to be away from computer for minimum of 3 days. May have night access but that currently is up in air.

Drive starts between March 20th and March 25th.

 
89Khahan
      ID: 367431722
      Sat, Mar 14, 2020, 13:10
Hey Donny
No worries here. Things are delayed at least 2 weeks. I we have plenty of time.
 
90Khahan
      ID: 367431722
      Mon, Mar 16, 2020, 16:43
I'm shutting down the draft for now. When we get closer to the actual start of the season I'll re-open. Our league constitution sets a time frame to start the draft and we'll probably keep a similar time frame.

The draft to date will stand - picks made are picks made. However, any drafted player suffering an injury that really impacts their play time this season BEFORE things resume I'll allow first pick to those managers to replace those players.

If baseball activities resume and a player gets injured - its just like spring training. This only pertains to injuries suffered before mlb resumes activities.
 
91gurudan
      ID: 5972117
      Thu, Mar 26, 2020, 17:27
When we gonna finish the draft?
 
92VampireWeekend
      ID: 4433320
      Fri, Apr 03, 2020, 21:03
Fine with continuing to hold until there is some clarity to the season. We will have plenty of time with the lead in that will be required.
 
93Wiggs
      ID: 4510112611
      Fri, Apr 03, 2020, 22:53
Continue holding
 
94Tree
      ID: 571142323
      Fri, Apr 03, 2020, 23:51
I've got no interest in continuing the draft until we find out when, or even if, we'll have baseball this year.
 
95Thumqer
      ID: 39230821
      Sat, Apr 04, 2020, 08:38
I prefer to wait, fantasy baseball has been one of the last things on my mind these days
 
96Art of monk
      ID: 33224323
      Sat, Apr 04, 2020, 11:20
I tried to get other leagues to wait as well. We have time. Continue to wait
 
97el fatador
      ID: 221571718
      Sat, Apr 04, 2020, 11:54
I say wait. Hell, we've waited this long already. Pretty sure they wont announce MLB starting without ramping up at least a 2 week spring training again.
 
98C1-NRB
      ID: 199351222
      Sat, Apr 04, 2020, 11:59
Keep it on hold. No reason to hurry up and wait.
 
99Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Sat, Apr 04, 2020, 12:55
I would not have stopped it in the first place, but now that is stopped, no need to start up again.

What will we do with draft results if they dont play at all this year?
 
100Khahan
      ID: 551581418
      Sat, Apr 04, 2020, 15:54
If they dont play at all my thinking is similar to what I posted in dirty dozen. Just pretend 2020 didn't happen. Our 2019 rosters are frozen. We repick keepers in 2021 based off that. Any 2020 traded picks get moved to the 2021 draft instead. in 2021 we start over with the draft.


I would ask that nobody trade 2021 draft picks right now until we get this sorted out.
 
101Tree
      ID: 161118314
      Sun, Apr 05, 2020, 09:23
Pretty sure they wont announce MLB starting without ramping up at least a 2 week spring training again.

i believe they've already said they'd need 30 days to get players ready.
 
102el fatador
      ID: 221571718
      Wed, Apr 15, 2020, 16:53
I say wait. Hell, we've waited this long already. Pretty sure they wont announce MLB starting without ramping up at least a 2 week spring training again.
 
103Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Tue, Jun 23, 2020, 11:09
Draft?
 
104Khahan
      ID: 551581418
      Tue, Jun 23, 2020, 12:21
I'm going to make my pick and move on with no clock just yet. Give people a bit of time to catch up. I think with where this league was in the draft it doesn't make sense to start over.
 
105wiggs
      Leader
      ID: 04991311
      Tue, Jun 23, 2020, 13:25
i agree Khahan
 
106Thumqer
      ID: 39230821
      Tue, Jun 23, 2020, 13:49
Agree even tho I drafted Chris Sale lol
 
107Khahan
      ID: 551581418
      Tue, Jun 23, 2020, 14:45
104 should read I'm "not" going to make my pick and move just yet.
 
108gurudan
      ID: 13501312
      Wed, Jun 24, 2020, 13:43
my Q is loaded
 
109VampireWeekend
      ID: 75532520
      Thu, Jun 25, 2020, 21:53
Date in mind to get going?
 
110Khahan
      ID: 551581418
      Fri, Jun 26, 2020, 09:35
And we are moving. Again - no clock just yet.

Any thoughts on IP. We have 60 games out of 162 which is 37% of the season. Our IP cap is 1350. Simple math: 1350x.37=499.5 or 500 IP for the cap?

Our max games played is 162 so must make it 60?
 
111VampireWeekend
      ID: 75532520
      Fri, Jun 26, 2020, 22:51
Do we also need to think about adding DL spots if players for illness/quarantine?
 
112Tree
      ID: 161118314
      Sat, Jun 27, 2020, 09:54
i feel like caps and minimums are such crapshoots at this point. i honestly don't see too many SPs going 5 innings.
 
113WG
      Donor
      ID: 35338278
      Sun, Jun 28, 2020, 11:30
Also curious about our AB/IP this year to be eligible to be kept for next year rule? I drafted Wander Franco with the hopes he’d somehow get the minimum required AB.
 
114Khahan
      ID: 367431722
      Sun, Jun 28, 2020, 12:54
WG - Looking over the draft I see 3 players (Wander Franco, Robert Luis, Forrest Whitley) drafted so far that have no MLB experience.
There is always a chance drafting these players that they don't even get called up so the pick is a wasted one. But we do have minimums that will be harder to make this season because of uncontrollable circumstances.

For now I'm willing to say for this season (meaning when we declare keepers in 2021) we can make an adjustment. But until we see how expanded rosters affect things I'm not comfortable just making a blanket reduction. Let's tackle this question more once we are into the season a bit and see how things are going. The standards are pretty low - 20 IP. If we do just a pro rated version Whitley for example only needs 7 2/3 IP which can be met with 2 spot start call ups - that kind of call up usage wouldn't qualify him under spirit of the rule. A hitter would only need 18 AB.

Again, I know this is an abbreviated season, but the numbers we are talking about are so low I'm just not sure at this point adjustments are called for (they probably are) or how much they should be adjusted (this is the bigger question).
 
115Thumqer
      ID: 39230821
      Sun, Jun 28, 2020, 13:32
I’m down for abbreviated minimums. Full disclosure I think I drafted Jo Adell too
 
116VampireWeekend
      ID: 75532520
      Sun, Jun 28, 2020, 14:15
I agree with 114 - we need to be careful about putting them so low that we go against what we had in mind - avoiding a prospect speculation league
 
117Tree
      ID: 571142323
      Sun, Jun 28, 2020, 19:23
When I drafted Luis Robert, it was with the knowledge he would almost certainly be a keeper going into next season, had this been a normal season.

But it's not.

I don't see why we wouldn't prorate minimums.
 
118Wiggs
      ID: 4510112611
      Sun, Jun 28, 2020, 22:39
I think we need to prorate as well. I drafted Whitley with the hopes of him pitching at the end of the season. This year the is different
 
119Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Mon, Jun 29, 2020, 10:48
I think we all drafted guys with some purpose in mind. We were all taking the same risks when we drafted them. Why is it that suddenly everyone wants some special consideration?
 
120Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Mon, Jun 29, 2020, 10:57
Trey Mancini didnt know he had cancer when i traded a pick for him just before the draft. Should we now reverse the trade? I mean cmon guys this is ridiculous. If we had just finished the draft back in March, we wouldnt even be discussing this shit.
 
121artofmonk
      ID: 425372910
      Mon, Jun 29, 2020, 11:37
I think the minimums look great.
Drafting prospects is always a bit of crapshoot and we have no idea what will happen with any of them this year. To be keeper eligible the standards are rather low even with 60 games they could be obtained. It will be much more difficult to get reach IP.
 
122WG
      Donor
      ID: 35338278
      Mon, Jun 29, 2020, 11:44
I personally wasn’t necessarily asking for special considerations given my own interest. I just thought it was important to raise given we were continuing to draft.
 
123Wiggs
      ID: 4510112611
      Mon, Jun 29, 2020, 14:04
I think comparing Mancini to a prospect is apples and oranges. Injuries happen every season but it will not effect keeper eligibility. If he doesn’t touch the field this year he can still be kept
 
124Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Mon, Jun 29, 2020, 15:59
The point is quite simply, you make your bed you lie in it. Crying over mistakes you made, particularly those surrounding bad speculation on prospects deserves no sympathy nor special treatment.
 
125Wiggs
      ID: 4510112611
      Mon, Jun 29, 2020, 19:23
Explain the bad speculation on prospects? You saw the corona causing baseball to shut down when these picks weee made in March? If so bravo and please let me know who wins the World Series this year so i can bet it.

Also I don’t think anyone is “crying” about it. Just trying to figure it out
 
126Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Mon, Jun 29, 2020, 19:34
And after you figure it out and agree that I am absolutely correct we can press on. Take all the time you need.
 
127Wiggs
      ID: 4510112611
      Mon, Jun 29, 2020, 20:40
And what makes you right.? Because you say so and no ones else’s opinion matters?
 
128Tree
      ID: 571142323
      Tue, Jun 30, 2020, 07:06
Bean, you're being a prick here.

This isn't a normal situation. These weren't normal risks.

Injuries and illness happen to players. They are part of the game.

There is a reasonable expectation that those things may happen and you draft a player with those expectations.

But you don't draft a player - spending an early pick on said player - with the expectation they may not be eligible to be kept because they won't reach an arbitrary number due to a Pandemic.

A pandemic is not part of the game, and in the interest of fairness, you make adjustments, as MLB is doing, and as we should be doing.
 
129Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Tue, Jun 30, 2020, 09:06
Frankly, I have little confidence in a meaningful season.

Right now, nobody knows which players will opt out, or which players will contract Covid and be asked to quarantine. Are we going to also have a special rule for all who might sit out for whatever reason?

The fact is that the whole idea of minimums for prospects is to discourage taking prospects and always playing for the future. If your guy cant meet the minimums as currently stated, then the MLB team wasn't going to use him this year on the MLB roster, and your selection of him was incorrect and you suffer the consequences accordingly.

You roll your dice and hope for a win, just like every other pick from every other fantasy manager. Your picks don't deserve any special consideration.

Tree, I may be a prick, but i have refrained from name calling, so I do have some redeeming qualities. And Wiggs, I am right. And, more importantly, I am not afraid to speak up very loudly, while the incessant whining dominates the airspace.



 
130Tree
      ID: 161118314
      Tue, Jun 30, 2020, 09:22
Frankly, I have little confidence in a meaningful season.

exactly.

which is why we shouldn't be penalized for the picks we've made.

The fact is that the whole idea of minimums for prospects is to discourage taking prospects and always playing for the future

also, exactly. The prospects that have been picked are players that, in a regular season, would have been reasonably expected to surpass those minimums - so it's not playing for the future, it's actually using a draft pick wisely in a league such as this.

Thusly, those minimums should be adjust in regards to the season we are playing, not the one we would have played in.
 
131Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Tue, Jun 30, 2020, 09:39
I went after Trey Mancini because he would have reasonably been expected to have a great career ahead of him. Since the draft, things changed and he now is being treated for cancer. Sux to be me, sux to be him even more.

Trey doesn't ask for sympathy or special treatment. He picks up the pieces and makes the best of a bad situation.

Meanwhile someone else is going to be taking his spot on the roster and benefiting from his loss. It's brutal, I know, but "there is no crying in baseball."
 
132wiggs
      Leader
      ID: 04991311
      Tue, Jun 30, 2020, 11:52
Tree- i think this is the 1st time you and I have been on the same page in a while :)

Bean- the difference is Mancini with his cancer, Synderguard with injury (who I kept, and am not complaining about, thats baseball) or say Mike Trout just says screw this year I will be back next season. They are are keeper eligible next season.

Prospects who were supposed to play might not make the minimums- still not sure how you can consider them the same thing.
 
133Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Tue, Jun 30, 2020, 12:09
Prospects who were supposed to play might not make the minimums- still not sure how you can consider them the same thing

Nobody forced you to take that risk, it was your decision. So far, your player has not failed to meet the requirements. Why are we even discussing this still?
 
134wiggs
      Leader
      ID: 04991311
      Tue, Jun 30, 2020, 12:12
because it better to have rules established before the season ends and everyone wonders whats happening- it could also change the rest of the draft
 
135Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Tue, Jun 30, 2020, 12:17
Ya know, if your player doesnt get enough ABs or IPs you will drop him and use his pick next year to get a different comparable guy. What is the big deal?

 
136Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Tue, Jun 30, 2020, 12:37
I think we should raise the limits next year. It is a discussion that is definitely overdue.
 
137Khahan
      ID: 367431722
      Tue, Jun 30, 2020, 15:26
They are are keeper eligible next season.

Right. But keep in mind, this is NOT supposed to be a prospect league. The minimums are there exactly to prevent people from mining the minors for players who aren't ready for a full season and keep those players out of the the draft when they are ready. That was the whole purpose of putting minimums in place and that has not changed.

I did say I think its a good idea to reduce the numbers. But no, I think pro rating them is a horrible idea. We might as well not have any minimums of the mins are 7.2 IP and 18 AB.

Keep in mind the discussion is not necessarily about whether we should reduce or not. Its just how much to reduce by. I'm perfectly willing to discuss all options. But I also want to be clear that the discussion should be not a dualistic discussion of 'pro rata vs no reduction at all.'

And yes, any player who doesn't meet the career minimums is a risk to be a wasted draft pick. No matter the reason for missing those mins.
 
138Tree
      ID: 571142323
      Tue, Jun 30, 2020, 15:55
Thanks Khahan for throwing some reason back into this convo.

What if we went with 60 percent?

12 ip and 30 AB.
 
139Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Tue, Jun 30, 2020, 16:28
Amazing, that we set a rule to discourage people from doing a very specific thing. They defy that rule, and then they get sympathy from the commish when they attempt to take advantage of a situation to improve their odds? THIS IS TOTAL BS. There is no need to modify anything, it just encourages the behavior we are trying to stop.
 
140Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Tue, Jun 30, 2020, 17:42
I think the min IP for a keeper should be 60 IP or 250 AB next year. That way nobody is gonna draft a rookie unless they are absolutely sure he is gonna start.

Our time would be better spent if we focus on that instead of wasting our time catering to people who are clearly trying to negotiate a personal advantage.
 
141Khahan
      ID: 36573017
      Tue, Jun 30, 2020, 18:07
Bean - I don’t view it as sympathy so as much as reasonableness. As for your suggestion in 140 I’ll ask this: if you don’t think the rule is doing quite enough let’s start this discussion after we get everything else settled. The rule itself was put into place after the league was up and running a few seasons. That reflects the fact that we are still shaking this league into the kind of league we all want. So it’s more than fair to revisit those minimums.
 
142Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Tue, Jun 30, 2020, 18:36
Clearly you plan to cave. Whatever change you capitulate to Khahan, just make sure only guys that are currently drafted get to partake of it. We dont need any further erosion of the rules.

Any newly drafted guys need to meet the rule as written and intended. There is absolutely no argument for anything different.
 
143Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Tue, Jun 30, 2020, 18:38
And what kind of compensatory pick do i get for Mancini?
 
144Tree
      ID: 571142323
      Tue, Jun 30, 2020, 18:44
With that crappy attitude, a 237th round pick in the year 2525 would be a kind gesture.

What next? You gonna throw a temper tantrum about shredded cheese?
 
145Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Tue, Jun 30, 2020, 19:05
Suck up some more tree,maybe Khahan will give you his first pick next year too.
 
146Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Tue, Jun 30, 2020, 19:08
oh, did i say that...yes i did
 
150gurudan
      ID: 5972117
      Wed, Jul 08, 2020, 16:03
why the stoppage?
 
151Khahan
      ID: 367431722
      Wed, Jul 08, 2020, 22:36
Sorry, been busy with school this week. Big test in pathology.
 
152Khahan
      ID: 367431722
      Thu, Jul 09, 2020, 22:19
Again, sorry all. Queue's are set and I've updated the draft at Yahoo.
 
153Khahan
      ID: 551581418
      Tue, Jul 14, 2020, 10:18
chad greene is off the table. crack babies round 22 pick was locked out during keeper set up. He's taking chad greene at 22.08. it just doesn't show on draftime.
 
154Thumqer
      ID: 39230821
      Mon, Jul 20, 2020, 10:09
Am I the only one who can’t see their players loaded onto the yahoo app?
 
155WG
      ID: 89402220
      Mon, Jul 20, 2020, 10:17
I think Khahan hasn't formally started the season yet? Draft Results show our players for this year but My Team view still shows players from last year.
 
156Khahan
      ID: 551581418
      Mon, Jul 20, 2020, 10:49
I sent out an email a few days ago asking everybody to double check their rosters. Was waiting for confirmation that all looks good/no problems. Then life kind of moved on. I'll assume at this point all is good and open up the season later today (one last chance to let me know of any mistakes that need fixed).
 
157Khahan
      ID: 367431722
      Mon, Jul 20, 2020, 20:28
We have the season started. I've reset waivers to be opposite of draft.
 
158gurudan
      ID: 13501312
      Tue, Jul 21, 2020, 13:56
I see no NA position
 
159Khahan
      ID: 551581418
      Tue, Jul 21, 2020, 17:34
Its there gurudan. You just have to go to your player who is NA and try to change his position. The NA will be available only then. But in roster settings we do have 1 listed as available.
 
160VampireWeekend
      ID: 5757518
      Wed, Aug 05, 2020, 19:57
Now Max gets pulled after 1 inning with an apparent injury....this ‘season’ is ridiculous.
 
161VampireWeekend
      ID: 288562719
      Sun, Sep 27, 2020, 20:56
Well done again WG...congrats
 
162Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Mon, Sep 28, 2020, 01:45
grats WG
 
163Tree
      ID: 161118314
      Mon, Sep 28, 2020, 09:23
great job WG. You had two of us breathing down your neck for a long time, and you staved us off.

well done.
 
164C1-NRB
      ID: 398172812
      Mon, Sep 28, 2020, 13:26
WG FTW again.

Between you and VampireWeekend it seems the rest of us battle for third, not that I had a chance this year. I was surprised to wake up out of last place this morning.
 
165WG
      ID: 89402220
      Mon, Sep 28, 2020, 17:02
Thanks everyone. Another fun and challenging year. Really did come down to the wire with VW and Tree right there throughout with strong teams and management. Even yesterday I was checking the standings til lock to see where VW could gain and I could fall. Fortunate I was able to hang on. Thanks again for running things so smoothly, Khahan.
 
166 Khahan
      ID: 34072516
      Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 22:17
Hey everybody. A big congratulations is well over-due to WG for a great season as well as Vampire Weekend and Nap's taters for awesome podium finishes. Looks like you 3 were head and shoulders above the rest of the league.
I apologize for this being so late, but that's part of the segue into the next part of this message. I will not be returning in 2021.
I'm sure some of you noticed a near complete lack of activity from me this season. I'd love to say it was just being blase about the weird 2020 season and all will be well next year. But the truth is I simply dont have time for fantasy baseball. As some of you know I started back in college last year and am attending nursing school. That shit is BUSY. I'm in class and clinicals about 7-8 hours per day. After that I spend 4-8 more hours studying and doing projects. Since the start of the semester I've had multiple days where I'm up at 5:30, into the hospital, leave at 3:30 come home and do work until 11 and go to bed. There is no way I'll be able to play fantasy baseball next spring with this kind of a schedule, much less commish and run the league and get everything up and running.

So, we need somebody to step up and take the reigns. I also need replaced. I wouldn't recommend contracting my team. We are already down 2 from our starting 14 because we couldn't find managers last year. I still love baseball, still love fantasy baseball and still want to play fantasy baseball. But the reality is I didn't even know the regular season had ended until part way through round 1 of the playoffs. I completely missed any wildcard games and I couldn't even tell you which teams are/were in the playoff this year.

So let me know if you are willing to step up and take over and I'll pass commissioner powers to you. That will settle this league. But you will have to start from scratch at draftime and wont have the option to 'renew league' there.
 
167Thumqer
      ID: 39230821
      Wed, Oct 14, 2020, 11:29
Congrats WG on the big win!

Khahan, thanks for your years of service running this league. I know it’s a ton of work and we all owe you a big thanks for it.

I am unfortunately also going to be dipping out of the league as I manage too many teams already. I even forgot to start my aces on opening day for crying out loud. It’s been a fun time in this league and I at least got one title out of it. I am leaving some good keepers behind for whomever takes my spot, so I’m glad I’m not hurting anyone there.
 
168 taxman
      SuperDude
      ID: 029463114
      Mon, Jan 25, 2021, 21:13
I too am going to drop out of this league for the 2021 season. Fantasy sports is interrupting my retirement even with the pandemic. Gotta cut back on the number of teams I manage.

Thanks Khahan for your service/time organizing and running this league.
 
169Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Mon, Jan 25, 2021, 22:40
Sorry to hear you are leaving taxman.

For everyone, I have spoken with Khahan recently about the future of this league, and have offered to take up the commish mantle for a few years. If we can keep things going, I'd keep the seat warm for his return.

I realize that a number of keeper leagues are already off and running, but I am pretty sure they are just jumping the gun. Following the Superbowl, I was planning to get a new thread started and do a roll call to see if we have enough to continue.