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Subject: 85 million

Posted by: Ira - [17112317] Sun, Apr 29, 15:38

After recent calculations, I have figured out
that 85 million is when to stop $$ making & Go for
WWR 85 that is, to have a PERFECT Team

Ender
ID: 13443221
Sun, Apr 29, 15:41

Thanks

Yankees Rule
ID: 503452519
Sun, Apr 29, 15:43

Wow, worst post ever, definitely getting a 1.

Sox Man
ID: 193522722
Sun, Apr 29, 16:21

yeah if there were one message on the boards that could get a 0 this would probably be it

Ender
ID: 13443221
Sun, Apr 29, 16:29

I have seen far worse than this. The problem is it is a statement with no analysis or info to back it up. The appropriate time to shift from $$$ to SWP is a critical element in the strategy of the game and is a topic worthy of discussion. However, it's of no value to just throw out a number in an authoritative manner without any info to lend any credibility.

First Baseman
ID: 1220180
Sun, Apr 29, 16:47

Well after extensive calculations I have figured it will actually be $84.13 million to have an awesome team.

How did I figure this out you ask.... The same way IRA did. I was bored and decided to give out a number that I thought was right.

GoWhiteSox
ID: 233302723
Sun, Apr 29, 16:52

you sure about that? i think 85.69 is the right amount

First Baseman
ID: 1220180
Sun, Apr 29, 17:05

I actually hd that figure but I took the possible recession coming up into consideration. I'll bet you forgot to do that.

The_Beast
ID: 20342417
Sun, Apr 29, 17:29

57 million is enough. There that should be proof enough.

this is not dave
ID: 403541913
Sun, Apr 29, 17:38

what what chicken head
bald heads everywhere
playa please

Purple Pimp
ID: 393341822
Sun, Apr 29, 18:38

CHICKEN HEAD.. 36 mafia.. Thats a fresh ass song. DO THA CHICKEN WANG

KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 51521713
Sun, Apr 29, 20:18

Taking into account tonights games, I can safely predict that it will only take $83.2M before you need to switch.

Westchester Mets
ID: 403541913
Sun, Apr 29, 20:39

I think Ira has a reasonable # here. Once we hit 85 mil, we have enough ca$h afford to afford a stud-laden team, so money is far less important.
Maybe that idea just came to Ira so he felt a sudden, enigmatic need to make a new thread. I'm sure there is an old thread, probably a forum-keeper than anaylyzes this issue, of when to stop going for money, in detail.
I don't think he was trying to clutter up the boards, but instead just raising an old debate/issue.

Westchester Mets
ID: 403541913
Sun, Apr 29, 20:42

PIMP!! Pink Pimp ;-)
That is some funny sh!t

miguel p
ID: 18332912
Sun, Apr 29, 20:47

After recent calculations, I have figured out
that this thread gets a 1.

Ditka85
ID: 352172517
Sun, Apr 29, 20:48

You know the first thing I do is read threads with a one, because you can almost guarantee it's a stupid question or statement that gets a bunch of funny responses.

Saw Dust
ID: 15435316
Sun, Apr 29, 21:23

Thank you, Ira!!!!! I don't often post on these 'boards' but I felt your post was worthy of my response. The other 'Gurupies' (Guru groupies)seem to be making fun...we will see who laughs last if you ride your plan all the way to the top!The 2 important things I have learned from studying up on this whole thing so far are.. 1) Try to get as many points as you can by the end of the season. The more points you get the better your chances are of getting a lower WWR( World -wide ranking).By putting in more players who perform well in the 'real world', you can get more points than your opponents in fantasy baseball. 2) Corollary to this..See if you can get a high roster value so you can get the better players!!! Seems simple, I know, but not as easy as it sounds :) I was trying to remember.. does anyone recall the name of that elitist division that started up midway through the season last year and was designed for top 500 managers only? I was in that for a short while, but was not able to finish out the season.Truly, Saw Dust

chode
ID: 1810431921
Sun, Apr 29, 21:28

Gee, Saw Dust, I can't imagine why you "don't often post on these boards."

Rogue's Strikers
ID: 300382817
Sun, Apr 29, 21:33

LMAO, 42 votes for a 1...

BeerGuy
ID: 14323217
Sun, Apr 29, 21:37

I don't think scoring alot of points will allow you to do better, see as I look at it, you score points to get a higher WWR, so say you end the season with a WWR of 2, not bad right? Smallworld is nice enough to give you a hat, pretty generous if you ask me. I'm making no sense, too many beers.

Any one want a cold one?

KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 51521713
Sun, Apr 29, 21:46

Ok, here's the way I see it. If a guy hits a home run, then that's better than a double, both in real life and in fantasy baseball. However, if that home run is a solo home run and the double scores 3 other guys then the double is better both in real life and in fantasy baseball. So since you want the best guys, you need to find guys who knock in a lot of runs and get a lot of hits. Some guys that steal some bases might be worth looking at, but the main correlary is that if the guys you have do well in real life, then you'll do well in fantasy baseball, so it's always better to buy the guys on the days they will do well and I think a lot of money will help you do this because a players fantasy baseball cost is similar to a real life salary so you always want the most expensive guys because they get hits and knock in runs.

Or something.

Ditka85
ID: 352172517
Sun, Apr 29, 21:47

Good point. Or something.

BeerGuy
ID: 14323217
Sun, Apr 29, 21:55

This thread is proof that I'm not the only drunk one on the message boards tonight.

Lutefisker
ID: 293172723
Sun, Apr 29, 23:35

We all seem to be forgeting about pitching in this.

After some very intensive study, I have deduced that if you simply pick the pitchers when they are having a 100 point night that you will almost invariably get a better rank. Conversly, remember never to get a pitcher who is about to have a negative point night.

balls
Donor
ID: 84342112
Sun, Apr 29, 23:41

I never thought of that Lukefisker, thanks! ;)

Great One
ID: 491025139
Sun, Apr 29, 23:47

Lutefisker - thanks to your post I will change my entire strategy!

Blade
ID: 193542220
Sun, Apr 29, 23:58

lol

Sally O'Malley
ID: 243411016
Mon, Apr 30, 00:00

I'm 50 years old , I like to Kick! ; Stretch ; and Kick!.......

slimer
ID: 2644430
Mon, Apr 30, 00:29

lol! @ 29...i watched that SNL last night

slimer
ID: 2644430
Mon, Apr 30, 00:30

64 votes?!?! lol

The Ladies Man
ID: 4882237
Mon, Apr 30, 00:48

uhh yeeeeeeahhhhhh, the way I sees it is that if you get yorself a fine good lookin woman, and a roster full of Rockies pitchers, you are doin better than only a team of all stars

Destiny's Chico
ID: 4033756
Mon, Apr 30, 06:49

C'mon guys- can we hit the ultimate lowest...100 1's??!

Chris
ID: 443172014
Mon, Apr 30, 12:39

95 1's...we're almost there.

Josh Gibson
Donor
ID: 593481913
Mon, Apr 30, 12:40

Hate to bandwagon but this is badddddddddd....

pogophiles
Leader
ID: 3245839
Mon, Apr 30, 12:50

Do I get a prize for being #100?

CH
ID: 15311910
Mon, Apr 30, 13:04

Talk about kicking a guy when he's down.

6-9 With The Afro
ID: 193928
Mon, Apr 30, 13:09

What do I get for wasting the last 10 minutes of my life reading this thread?!!! I knew there was a reason I was avoiding it...

slimer
ID: 9150216
Mon, Apr 30, 13:32

this is too funny....i can't believe 119 people have voted for this thread

a good laugh for a monday afternoon...thanks

JeffG
Donor
ID: 40451227
Mon, Apr 30, 14:16

So much attention warrants me rating this thread a 2.

If I can rate individual posts, those that would get 1's would be those who mocked the whole post and discouraged people from posting and participating again as opposed to others who at least constructively suggested how to better justify the thoughts next time.

E'ville
Leader
ID: 29017810
Mon, Apr 30, 16:34

Just curious do they keep records for stuff like this. Most 1's in a thread etc....
It's baseball everything is stats and records.

Destiny's Chico
ID: 17336229
Mon, Apr 30, 20:25

Who other than Ira himself gives this thread a 5? Or is Ira moving from computer to computer, giving this thread a 5?

puckprophet
ID: 243411016
Mon, Apr 30, 20:39

could a moderator put a merciful end to this thread please?

billy hill
ID: 423493018
Mon, Apr 30, 20:58

yup,just got done figurin'--85 looks good right now!

Ref
ID: 4828318
Mon, Apr 30, 21:19

Even Yankee's Rule say it's a one...

slimer
ID: 2644430
Mon, Apr 30, 21:23

this is making me CRACK UP!!

balls
Donor
ID: 84342112
Mon, Apr 30, 21:27

crack head

Lutefisker
ID: 293172723
Mon, Apr 30, 22:36

I changed my vote from a 1 to a 4 because there were already 152 "1" votes but there were no "4" votes.

I always have had this tendency to like to stand out from the crowd. ;)

Judge Mental
ID: 213372412
Tue, May 01, 06:53

Ira, you wanna comment on the mess you've made?

FRANK DUX
ID: 47042822
Tue, May 01, 09:36

which is worse

This thread that IRA created or Tim Hudson's ERA????

i'll go with this thread!!!!!!!!

Sand bagger
ID: 1314213
Tue, May 01, 11:03

agreed Dux

But i would have to say that this thread is even worse than jose lima's ERA

this is by far the worse thread started since the start of the season

way to go IRA

6-9 With The Afro
ID: 193928
Tue, May 01, 11:22

Poor IRA's gonna jump off a ledge. The post wasn't that bad...

Tranceformer
ID: 4825714
Tue, May 01, 13:15

he probably took the top producers at each position and added them all up.
easy stuff.
this place is going downhill fast...

FANBALL RULES!!

Sox Man
ID: 193522722
Tue, May 01, 16:53

(s)he is probably too embarrased to comment on it

Huskiez
ID: 334111
Mon, May 07, 19:05

BUTT (so we can all have another good laugh).

Ira
ID: 17112317
Mon, May 07, 19:40

lol

Ira
ID: 17112317
Mon, May 07, 19:40

lol

Home Run Race
ID: 51442719
Mon, May 07, 19:49

Who brought this post back....

I could punch them...

Wait I should punch myself....

For keeping it up....

Ender
ID: 13443221
Mon, May 07, 20:15

If you really want to know you could just look at the dates...

JMISA
ID: 27420615
Mon, May 07, 20:23

keep this post alive

Lutefisker
ID: 293172723
Tue, May 08, 03:57

No way...

There is no way that I am going to help keep this post alive!

Twilo is DEAD
ID: 11438721
Tue, May 08, 05:04

I heard Twilo is getting shut down....Any truth to this rumor?
Where my NYC peeps at??

drippy
ID: 4945386
Tue, May 08, 06:53

anyone know how to get to south lexington from the galleria?

puckprophet
ID: 243411016
Tue, May 08, 07:21

break north at the snack bar....

perk9600
ID: 4542177
Tue, May 08, 07:26

Still the worst ever. Any challangers?

JMISA
ID: 8323249
Tue, May 08, 09:30

Calculator
ID: 24414810
Tue, May 08, 10:41

all the women who making money
throw ur hands up at me
excuse me but i must relieve myself b4 my swollen member explodes.
BBBAAAHHH
ps : FIESTA!!

GRIFFEYATWAR
ID: 271421921
Tue, May 08, 12:19

butt

Ira
ID: 52429816
Tue, May 08, 16:40

AHA, my ratings went up from 1.3 to 1.4!- thanks to my 19 5s

First Baseman
ID: 1220180
Tue, May 08, 16:50

I cannot believe this thread is still going

Lutefisker
ID: 293172723
Tue, May 08, 18:14

Hey... whataboutme!?! I gave ya a 4!

Steve Biz
Donor
ID: 02411620
Tue, May 08, 18:29

Ira, I would absolutely love to know a little bit about you and what you were thinking when you created this thread. I ask the following questions with no insult intended whatsoever. I am actually very impressed with you and your sense of humor about the whole thing. But I gotta know- how did you come up with 85 million ducats- or did you simply just say it randomly? Also, how long have you been playing fantasy baseball, and what do you do in the real world (student? attorney?)? Just interested because you have created a truly great thread. Puts a smile on my face every day.

Sox Man
ID: 26427621
Tue, May 08, 18:37

to get to south lexington from the galleria you follow the drinking gourd

Scottso
ID: 31445914
Wed, May 09, 15:24

Well, if you ask me, it's more like $90-95, to have the top player at every position and still have room for a stacked staff.

Enjoyment here

Ira
ID: 17112317
Wed, May 09, 22:52

Steve Biz, I am a 13 yr. old Student, this is my
2nd year in Fantasy Baseball, (doing great thanks
to this wonderful site). I actually came up with
up 86.5 million but rounded off to 85 since
players prices tend to change quite frequently.
How did I get 85 u ask? Well, I took the RANDRO,
Schilling, Miller & Brown (32.08) priced pitchers
pitchers, the price for an average great C (4.5),
a great 1B (7mil), a great 2B (3.7mil), a great 3B
(4.5), a grat SS (7), 4 great OF (Alou, L.Walker,
L.Gonzo, Juan Gone)(25.28) = 84.06 (eh? eh?)

KTxGOD
ID: 53045117
Wed, May 09, 22:56

I think the thread deserves higher than 1.4 now with that last post...

Blade
ID: 193542220
Wed, May 09, 22:58

I think its a good observation Ira, but I think you need just a little more than 85 mil..im thinking 90 mil as Scottso was saying. But i wish it was around 85, im already at 71 mil right now, and i would only 14 more mil to go!

esposo
ID: 530432519
Wed, May 09, 23:04

I agree with post #24, my child support just went from $177/week to $240/week, ouch :(

this thread is more sane than the local magistrate

BTW, I aske dthe question 4 weeks ago, how much money is enough?

about $85 million does seem fair

slug
Donor
ID: 8159112
Thu, May 10, 09:07

86.58, IMO

Steve Biz
Donor
ID: 02411620
Thu, May 10, 10:55

Thanks Ira- great job. Had you included all that info in your original post this thread probably never would have earned the infamy that it has. I'm glad that you didn't ;)

Huskiez
ID: 334111
Thu, May 10, 16:47

Every time I see post 2 and 3 in response, I chuckle to myself.

The Pink Pimp @work
ID: 383242714
Thu, May 10, 18:43

Fair is fair, in light of the explanation of the now infamous $85 million figure, (see post #76) I have changed my vote.

The only thing I might add is that since hitter prices are going up faster this year, we may need a little more than the $85 as by the time we get there the players will be a little bit more expensive.

Good luck with your team Ira and keep up the good work.

Westchester Mets
ID: 403541913
Thu, May 10, 19:01

Ira, why would you say, "Go for WWR 85 that is, to have a PERFECT Team."
Why is 85 the ideal WWR?

Ghettofied
ID: 222281822
Thu, May 10, 19:06

he says that because he just got out of elementary school....just ignore him.

Ira
ID: 17112317
Thu, May 10, 19:10

No No No I meant "..stop making money and go for
WWR. 85.... I for got the period, and I really
dont feel comfertable about making fun of my age.
Its actually quite immature. Hey Ghettfield, have
u written anything in this forum yet thats about
baseball? My guess is no

Ira
ID: 17112317
Thu, May 10, 19:13

Oh, & Pimk Pimp, thanx alot for trying so hard to
regain my reputation of not being a stupid fool
that everyone thinks due to all the 1s

The Pink Pimp @work
ID: 383242714
Thu, May 10, 19:24

No prob Ira,

I think your thread could be the next train. I see it going up from 1.6 to about 2.8 or so. At that point however, I might have to sell.

;-)

Lutefisker
ID: 59421106
Thu, May 10, 21:34

Hey Ira...

Especially with your explanation...

I may as well give you a 5 too...

especially since other people just had to plop themselves down on my 4 vote anyway...

I feel just...

well just so very crowded... (sniff)

Steve Biz
Donor
ID: 02411620
Fri, May 11, 01:18

I would be very proud if we could get this thread up to a 3.0. That would be sweet. Of course, I'm drunk, and maybe that's why it seems like such a cool idea.

Fatal Image
ID: 35601219
Fri, May 11, 02:27

Heh PP. Agreed, but I think this thread may be more of a "value train", as it is certainly underpriced for its relative performance right now, but the sheer amount of 1 votes may keep it from posting significant gains.

Huskiez
ID: 334111
Fri, May 11, 07:27

Hm I'm almost positive there were 198 1's before, and now only 193..

GothWalker
ID: 474427
Fri, May 11, 07:42

Up to 2.0 now.
And closing in on 100 posts...
Gets my vote for "Thread of the Year".

And can we have Ira for Guru Jr, please?

FiestA
ID: 31428117
Fri, May 11, 07:43

Huskiez- People can change their vote moron!!

Baaaaahhhh!!!!

Fiesta!

perk9600
ID: 50445119
Fri, May 11, 10:14

I also changed my vote after the read of post 76 to a 4, but may move it to five. I agree with the Pimp this is a nice little train right here.

Lutefisker
ID: 59421106
Fri, May 11, 10:32

there were 200 votes for 1 before...

I sense a comeback!!!

Hop on the train early, guys!!!

Bawler
ID: 391141912
Fri, May 11, 11:12

Even I have to check in for THIS post!

Good comeback Ira. You get a 5 from me, not only for the post, but because your name reminds me of a funny-ass Chevy Chase movie from before your time.

100

esposo
ID: 234121111
Fri, May 11, 11:16

post 100 and a 5 vote

101

perk9600
ID: 48431111
Fri, May 11, 11:33

up to a 2.1, chugga chugga cho cho.

102

Ender
ID: 52438315
Fri, May 11, 11:48

The thread itself is stilla "1" IMO.

If I were to crop the crap and rate on Ira's new explanation I still wouldn't call it "top notch", but would perhaps bump it to "good stuff" (3).

103

perk9600
ID: 554591113
Fri, May 11, 14:21

Ender, you are probably right. But the kid is 13 so I am cutting him a break.

104

Ira
ID: 17112317
Fri, May 11, 17:07

perk9600, for god sakes, what does my age hafta do
with anything? You really think I'm a baby or
something? I am just as mature and b-ball sensed
as anyone else here. I dont know why I put my age,
but I dont want it to be an excuse for ANYTHING AT
ALL! Please treat me like everyone else. And for
everyone else, thanx for da support!

105

Steve Biz
Donor
ID: 02411620
Sat, May 12, 00:07

I think Ira's cool! Go Ira!

106

JMISA13
ID: 14221017
Sat, May 12, 10:12

Ira whats your WWR + RV

107

Destiny's Chico
Donor
ID: 17336229
Sat, May 12, 10:29

Wow this thread probably has the record for both most 1's and most 5's!

108

Ira
ID: 17112317
Sat, May 12, 10:43

RV- 54.87 , Cash Left-11.61 , WWR 12703, so i
guess I have 66.48 right now. The reason why my
roster value is so low, and my WWR is so high is
because I am focusing right now on making money.
My WWR has been to to 2000th at on time. My WWR
drifts from 2000-15000 all the time, every single
player I've got on my roster is stricly to make money

109

Ira
ID: 17112317
Sat, May 12, 14:07

Actually, with todays Price Changes, My RV is now
55.34

110

Huskiez
ID: 334111
Sat, May 12, 14:20

Hm 308 votes.. more than all of the number of votes on the first page of the Forum combined.

111

Lutefisker
ID: 59421106
Sat, May 12, 23:26

199 - 1's

and

87 - 5's

Ira is going for a double triple with perhaps the 1st post ever to be in triple figures in both the 1 and the 5 catagory!!!!

Gooooo Ira!

112

JMISA
ID: 424421516
Tue, May 15, 16:44

Just Keeping this goin

113

Destiny's Chico
Donor
ID: 17336229
Tue, May 15, 16:48

May I ask why?

114

sandloren
Donor
ID: 53114169
Tue, May 15, 17:26

Because all of us have too much time on our hands and itchy typing fingers.

115

M.Fallacy
ID: 7426812
Tue, May 15, 17:36

Ira good going dude. However by the time you reach 85,the players will cost 95. i'm sure you guys know the trains will be the higher $$ players in about a month or so.....Thanks

SW

Rate this thread a 5 for effort man.

116

drippy
ID: 31434166
Wed, May 16, 06:48

B U T T

117

Peregrine
ID: 25430149
Wed, May 16, 09:07

Two more 5's and we have the double triple..c'mon, two more people have to vote it up. (Can you tell I'm bored at work :-)

And good job redeeming yourself, Ira.

118

Chris
ID: 25540221
Wed, May 16, 09:42

Woohoo! I put it over the top!

100 votes for '5'...amazing that it happened with the way this thread started out.

119

perk9600
ID: 39451610
Wed, May 16, 10:12

Well Ira sorry if I offended you. I didn't mean to use your age as an excuse, just that I remember how I was at your age and give you credit for how you handled the hard time that you got here(some even possibly from myself). Sorry if it didn't come across the right way.
best;
-perk

120

Steve Biz
Donor
ID: 02411620
Wed, May 16, 11:56

Now that this thread has earned the first ever double-triple, I thought I'd do a little recap for those who missed out. This is the best of the best from one of the funniest threads I've ever seen...........

(2) Wow, worst post ever, definitely getting a 1.

(3) yeah if there were one message on the boards that could get a 0 this would probably be it

(16) After recent calculations, I have figured out that this thread gets a 1.

(18) By putting in more players who perform well in the 'real world', you can get more points than your opponents in fantasy baseball. Corollary to this..See if you can get a high roster value so you can get the better players!!! (note: this actually was not sarcasm)

(22) it's always better to buy the guys on the days they will do well (note: this was)

(25) I have deduced that if you simply pick the pitchers when they are having a 100 point night that you will almost invariably get a better rank. Conversly, remember never to get a pitcher who is about to have a negative point night.

(27) thanks to your post I will change my entire strategy!

(42) Who other than Ira himself gives this thread a 5? (a bit of foreshadowing...)

(52) i would have to say that this thread is even worse than jose lima's ERA

(76) Steve Biz, I am a 13 yr. old Student. I actually came up with 86.5 million but rounded off to 85 since players prices tend to change quite frequently.... (Ira sheds some light on the situation, and earns some respect with a bit more explanation of his figure)

(88) Hey Ghettofield, have u written anything in this forum yet thats about baseball? My guess is no (go Ira!)

(91) I may as well give you a 5 too... (people start coming around)

(101) up to a 2.1, chugga chugga choo choo.

(118) 100 votes for '5'...amazing that it happened with the way this thread started out.

I think I represent a pretty large faction of gurupies when I say Thanks Ira- for the most unconventionally entertaining post of the year.

121

perk9600
ID: 514421611
Wed, May 16, 12:08

here here

122

Lutefisker
ID: 59421106
Thu, May 17, 04:18

85 cheers for IRA!!!

123

Destiny's Chico
Donor
ID: 4438176
Thu, May 17, 06:43

Lutefisker, c'mon! 85 million cheers for Ira! ;)

124

JMISA
ID: 444391717
Fri, May 18, 17:03

Oops i dint mean to post this

125

Mosquitoes
ID: 51441823
Sun, May 20, 02:08

wouldn't it be great to have the kind of money to make the perfect team?

(Just head to say something, 85 million was about to fall off he front page)

keep up the good work IRA

126

Catfish
Sustainer
ID: 20557322
Sun, May 20, 08:13

What position does this thread play? I think I want to draft it.

127

JMISA
ID: 9411921
Sun, May 20, 11:31

Today is Sunday

128

Optimization
Leader
ID: 293222518
Sun, May 20, 16:50

Thank you for providing a thread rating of ?.

Here is a breakdown of all current ratings for this thread:Rating: 1 2 3 4 5 Total
Count: 227 7 8 9 112 363

The average rating for this thread is currently 2.4

Come on guys/girls, let us fill in the rest of the numbers and make this the first quintuple triple thread.

129

Strike One
ID: 39252299
Sun, May 20, 18:31

After much debate with myself, and reading Steve Biz's little breakdown i've decided to change my vote and give this the rating it deserves.

130

Strike One
ID: 39252299
Sun, May 20, 18:33

hmmm...that's funny, i must have already given this thread a 1.

;)

131

Joe Sixers
ID: 32250322
Sun, May 20, 20:22

This thread is too heavily owned to be a viable money maker. No thanks, I'll stay away.

132

SETON HALL PREP
ID: 2949711
Tue, May 22, 07:26

WASSUP

133

GRIFFEYATWAR
ID: 271421921
Wed, May 23, 08:30

butt

134

BF Dead
ID: 4245978
Wed, May 23, 08:34

As long as it's already up to the top (will this thread never die?) - has there ever been a thread with 377 votes?

135

Sand bagger
ID: 1314213
Fri, May 25, 10:53

why are people keeping this thread alive??

(pretty ironic considering that i just did)
hahaha

136

JW
Leader
ID: 83441917
Sat, May 26, 05:48

I finally got around to checking out this thread and I'm giving it a 5 for 85 reasons ... alright, two.

It promotes Gurupie community life like no thread since the legendary "Just 4 fun: Top Ten Signs".

And because, at 43, I don't like people making fun of my age either, Ira ;)

137

Lutefisker
ID: 59421106
Mon, May 28, 02:13

43... he, he, he... ahhh... errr... nevermind...
I am to close to that age myself...

138

Janitor
ID: 234172813
Mon, May 28, 14:51

I just hit the 400th rating! Yes!

139

Judge Mental
ID: 484492814
Mon, May 28, 14:55

Just a few more votes for the quintuple double!

140

boogie
ID: 12413020
Mon, May 28, 18:41

85 million might of been the magic number on day one but now it isn't enough to get the best team. Still going to need money to spend on the best players.

141

Sand bagger
ID: 1314213
Tue, May 29, 12:32

85 is enough
when u keep guys like berkman, t walker, jeff shaw, matt morris and rick reed on ur team for the rest of the year as i plan to do so

the rest can be spent on the superstars

142

Jason Danheiser
ID: 454162215
Tue, May 29, 18:28

There is no way 85 is enough for me. I'd want
every superstar. Then i'd be happy

143

Ira
ID: 17112317
Tue, May 29, 19:29

The thing is, by the time you get say 95 or 100
mil, it'll be too late to climb up the ranks
enough before the season's over

144

puckprophet
ID: 1810352017
Tue, May 29, 19:44

BUTT.... ok , everybody re-vote....

145

Ira
ID: 17112317
Tue, May 29, 20:52

Is "Butt" some kind of Guru term? I've heard alot
of people use it

146

KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 51521713
Tue, May 29, 20:57

Back Up To Top

It's message board slang for message boards like this one where threads are ordered by the time of the last post in the thread.

147

Sox Man
ID: 26427621
Tue, May 29, 20:58

no its the thing below ur lower back and above your thighs. aka rump, rear end, "the a word that i cant use on these boards"

or in rotoguru language it means "back up to top" its wut people use when they want an old thread to go up to the top of the page

148

slimer
ID: 2644430
Tue, May 29, 20:59

420 votes...cool :)

149

slimer
ID: 2644430
Tue, May 29, 20:59

well, that didn't last long

150

butt
ID: 10548213
Sat, Jun 02, 13:48

BUTT

151

killerbs
ID: 124512813
Sat, Jun 02, 14:06

someone ask Hippy Baseball if 85 mil is all its craked up to be...hes there...im jealous

152

did is gay as hell
ID: 433562419
Sun, Jun 03, 15:19

dave daliso is a dumbass- that is an alliteration!

BUTT

153

The Pink Pimp
ID: 36423223
Mon, Jun 04, 02:42

Here is the current updated thread ranking based on the FIRST 436 votes cast.

2.41513761467889908256880733944954

154

Blade
ID: 193542220
Mon, Jun 04, 02:53

After recent calculations, I have figured out that their are just way too many Pujols--->? threads.....

155

w33ds
ID: 506162515
Mon, Jun 04, 06:06

Speaking as the owner of Hippy Baseball, 85 Million IS all it's cracked up to be. hehe
i could use another 15 Million though for the likes of Helton and ARod.

156

DID is gay as hell
ID: 5530410
Mon, Jun 04, 10:38

ok i will butt this again because D I D!!! Does anyone need any further explanation?

B U TT and DID!!

157

Ira
ID: 47440418
Thu, Jun 07, 20:20

lol @ Pink Pimp...Thanks

158

JMISA
ID: 44551120
Sun, Jun 10, 14:33

85 million yeaaa
alot of people are gunna be reaching this RV soon
so i gess u guys better start worrying about getting to 85 wwr

159

puckprophet
ID: 1810352017
Mon, Jun 11, 15:47

ira , how would you spend 85 mil today???

160

Ira
ID: 17112317
Mon, Jun 11, 18:35

Lol, dont have the time today

161

Ira
ID: 47440418
Sun, Jun 17, 16:23

u guys are gonna ate me for this- BUTT

162

Ira
ID: 47440418
Sun, Jun 17, 16:24

*hate

163

puckprophet
ID: 1810352017
Sun, Jun 17, 18:16

ira , i've got 86.79 million , yet my wwr keeps getting worse , what gives???

164

Blade
ID: 55432121
Sun, Jun 17, 18:20

My cats breath smells lile cat food.

165

Blade
ID: 55432121
Sun, Jun 17, 18:23

that should say like not lile

my roster value is 83.. almost to the magic number!

166

absolut_cdi
ID: 2342242
Sun, Jun 17, 18:44

lol @ 164... ahhhh simpsons

167

winmiller
Sustainer
ID: 107452613
Sun, Jun 17, 19:19

Ira,

If this thread gets to 1000 posts, does everybody get $10? Just curious if the offer is still on the table.

168

Ira
ID: 17112317
Sun, Jun 17, 22:18

lol, sure

169

slug
Donor
ID: 8159112
Thu, Jun 21, 11:37

BUTT

170

Knightmare
ID: 74342318
Fri, Jun 22, 00:37

I can't believe I never noticed this thread before, I always wondered what people were talking about when they mentioned the magic 85 million roster value.

171

Rogue's Strikers R9
ID: 300382817
Fri, Jun 22, 01:02

I can't believe this thread has been rated by 470 people! If nothing else, that shows you how many people read the baseball boards.

172

KevinL
Donor
ID: 3011622
Sat, Jun 23, 00:19

Props to my tag-team partner, Ira!

173

The Left Wings
ID: 55352217
Sat, Jun 23, 04:33

Don't forget there are lots of people who rated this thread multiple times (and sometimes from different computers).

174

ksoze
Donor
ID: 001731
Sat, Jun 23, 04:47

Really? That can be done? You're kidding!!! How dishonest. And you actually know how left wings, huh? What's that say?

175

butt
ID: 30548256
Mon, Jun 25, 06:48

BUTT. :-)

176

Adam
ID: 31118919
Wed, Jun 27, 12:09

Wow, this thread has been rated by over 500
people!

177

Judge Mental
ID: 135152111
Wed, Jun 27, 12:13

It gets better every time you see it. kind of like watching Simpsons episodes over and over again.

178

Ref
ID: 1442849
Wed, Jun 27, 12:16

I got like $87 mil and my team is far from PERFECT!

179

butt
ID: 4256299
Fri, Jun 29, 09:06

BUTT :-)

180

Goodwillhunter
ID: 2522914
Fri, Jun 29, 14:42

i rate this thread every chance i get
i have rated this thread from an estimated 34 different computers

181

JMISA
ID: 165442615
Fri, Jun 29, 15:06

Cool

182

perk9600
ID: 4542177
Fri, Jun 29, 15:27

What rating did you give it?

183

Pearl St. Punisher
ID: 421131169
Fri, Jun 29, 16:06

Ref, what are you doing wrong then? ;)
could it be user error?

actually, I'm at 84.47, and I'm pretty damn happy with my team. only .53 away from perfection.

-Punisher

184

PudgeFan 07
ID: 40214259
Fri, Jun 29, 17:09

We've had 190 replies and 516 ratings for a thread that says, "After recent calculations, I have figured out
that 85 million is when to stop $$ making & Go for
WWR 85 that is, to have a PERFECT Team"??????

How is that possible???

-PF07

185

PudgeFan 07
ID: 40214259
Fri, Jun 29, 17:10

*185 replies

186

Lutefisker
ID: 485592122
Sat, Jun 30, 06:22

*186 replies

187

Sperrl
ID: 40527237
Sat, Jun 30, 09:50

If you look at the #1 team right now - Ueckers, it has a roster value of exactly 85 Mil. He has 4,820,000 in the bank but this thread is about roster value.

This is before the prices change today

188

Mikel
ID: 33156417
Sat, Jun 30, 09:55

I like the Number 85

189

nerveclinic
Donor
ID: 225271323
Tue, Jul 03, 02:02

I am feeling pretty good about 85 mill. I have more than that but I can never seem to use it...I think IRA was on to something...

190

smiles
ID: 275262621
Tue, Jul 03, 02:04

85 mil is correct, props go out to IRA

191

puckprophet
ID: 1810352017
Tue, Jul 03, 11:18

this thread is approaching critical mass.

192

Richard
Leader
ID: 95819
Tue, Jul 03, 11:32

Currently at $91 million and wish I had more

Richard

193

The_Mentors
ID: 9432248
Tue, Jul 03, 12:02

I Watched 'Pitch black' and 'Almost famous' last night. I recommend neither.
You are the man Ira!

194

Motley Crue
Donor
ID: 104432913
Tue, Jul 03, 12:27

Hey, The_Mentors, did you ever see Suicide Kings? There is this part at the end where Christopher Walken tells this kid, "You are the man, Ira."

195

The_Mentors
ID: 9432248
Tue, Jul 03, 13:15

Never seen that movie. What could possible be the premise of a movie called 'suicide kings'? Why was Ira the man? Did he commit suicide?

196

Greenbelt
ID: 1564938
Tue, Jul 03, 13:30

But, but, but...

Brian's Ballplayers ( id #37821 )---LAST night's best team---raked-up 671 big ones ( and 461 points the night before!! ) with a pitching score of 453 points at a paltry $12.44M!! Annnnd a hitting core of 218 for just $37.05M!

SO... that makes last night's top team worth a bargain-basement $49.49M ( he lost $40K today )---and the guy has 14 HTs and 8 PTs left!

He's in 78,596th and just passed 16,640 teams last night...If I where in the top 100, I'd be a little worried! ;-P

197

Ira
ID: 58649319
Wed, Jul 04, 12:47

Perfect Team Today:
Randling
Maddux
Park
Reed
Rivera

LoDuca
Sweeney
Boone
Jones
A-Rod
Alou
Berkman
Gonzo
Floyd

GRAND TOTAL: (drum roll) -------$87.41 (clap clap)

198

Dan
Donor
ID: 45054169
Wed, Jul 04, 15:40

Actually Ira I think my ideal team right now would be...

Randro(this is if Pedro comes back which is inevitable)
Schilling
Brown
Maddux
Rivera

Pudge
Helton
Boone
Jones
Arod
Luis
Walker
Manny
Bonds

And the grand total would be......$104.99. Hmmm just slightly over the 85 million dollar total ;-)

199

JMISA
ID: 49628415
Wed, Jul 04, 15:44

Good Job dan too bad no1 has that kinda money yet

200

Dan
Donor
ID: 45054169
Wed, Jul 04, 16:12

Yes I know, Ive reached 85 million dollars now and I was looking at my roster today and how much I still need cash.

201

KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 482491817
Wed, Jul 04, 18:27

My "perfect" team would currently be (with exceptions for consistency and/or team):

Pitchers
Randy/Schilling - $11.26M
Greg Maddux - $7.44M
Mariano Rivera - $5.30M
Roger Clemens - $6.06M
Kevin Brown - $7.50M

Hitters
Ivan Rodriguez - $6.76M
Todd Helton - $8.19M
Bret Boone - $5.23M
Chipper Jones - $7.23M
Alex Rodriguez - $7.48M
Barry Bonds - $7.86M
Luis Gonzalez - $8.15M
Larry Walker - $7.56M
Sammy Sosa - $7.48M

Grand Total: $103.50M

I think it's a bit ambitious to think that for the season LoDuca will out-point Pudge. The same for Sweeney over Helton, Alou over Bonds, Berkman over Sosa/Manny, and Floyd over Walker. Further, Park only pitches good at home (2-4, 3.82 ERA on Road) which is not the kind of inconsistency you want from a high priced team. Clemens gets my nod there. And Reed over a healthy Brownie? No thanks. Reed has given up at least 3 ERs in 4 of his last 5 starts with only 3 decisions and 1 win. Plus, despite having a higher ERA, he has a better record on the road. Reed becomes a victim of the team surrounding him and that's another thing you don't want on a high priced team.

Dan, our teams are similar, but I gave the nod to Clemens over Pedro because of Pedro's questionable situation. If Pedro comes back (at all) as his dominant self, then he definitely makes the lineup rotating with RJ or as part of a GuruRotation. Also, I gave the nod to Sosa over Manny just to be different. ;) Seriously, both guys heat up after the ASB, but I liked Sosa's stats just a hair better.

Ira, do I think your team would have been a good team to have over about the last 15 days? Yeah, but it's not close to the "Perfect Team" overall. Is it the "Perfect Team" for $85M? Possibly, but that's not the issue so it really doesn't matter.

202

The Left Wings
ID: 2131321
Wed, Jul 04, 18:48

People, do not forget that Pedro's hurt. When he comes back, I can see all your so-called "perfect" teams need an extra $5M or so.

However, I do think that $85M is enough for these couple of weeks when the cheaper players are doing better (Sweeney, Alou, LoDuca, and a few days ago, Nevin). But like 2 weeks ago, I was running out of cash when the more expensive players were hot (Helton, Walker, Bonds, L.Gonzalez, etc.). That $85M changes week by week depending on the players' hotness (temperature?). And right now, it's leaning towards the cheaper side. But I won't be surprised when the 7-day best team would constantly soar well over $100M some time during the rest of the season.

One last note to Dan. You can't put Randro in a spot. If you think they are very good, they should each take a roster spot, cuz that's the definition of perfect. And your perfect RV would be close to $110M, which is not a problem. It's all hyperthetical anyways.

203

Ira
ID: 58649319
Wed, Jul 04, 19:00

I'm disagreeing with both of you. You are picking the most poopular players:

Last 5
-------
Pudge- 96--(16 TSNP per game for the season)
LoDuca- 117--(17.4)

Sweeney- 225
Helton- 31

L. Walker- 72
Berkman- 92

Bonds- 41
Alou- 80

204

Ira
ID: 58649319
Wed, Jul 04, 19:04

+ Pedro's hurt

The Left Wings, I think Rando CAN be a spot, because if you've got a perfect team, u wont need to use any trades, therefor u can use them soely on 2 pitchers

205

Mike C.
Donor
ID: 52550295
Wed, Jul 04, 21:02

BUTT

Just wanted to put this right at the top next to esposo's thread so we could compare ratings...

206

KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 482491817
Wed, Jul 04, 22:00

Ira, you think the leaders in SWP over the last 5 games are the perfect team? You need more help than just determining the perfect roster value. I think the definition of a perfect team is the team that will garner you the most SWP by the end of the season. Given that, isn't long term performance a better indicator than very short term performance? You really think Alou is going to outpoint Bonds for the season? Did you even begin to consider that Bonds already has 495 more SWP on the season than Alou? That's alot of points for Alou to make up for him to be a better choice on the "perfect" team. And what happens when Bonds breaks out of his slump? Bonds on a hot streak vs. Alou on a hot streak. Take your pick. If you pick Alou, you're crazy. I guess for your purposes, it's better to choose LoDuca, Sweeney, Berkman, Alou, and host of other "Hot-today-Gone-tomorrow's", but for the purposes of the "perfect" team, you have to open your eyes to the big picture: Long Term Points. Ever consider that the most popular players are popular for a reason? It's because they produce on the most consistent levels.

And one more thing Ira, you really need to start looking at SWP/EG (Eligible Games), especially when it comes to Catchers. Catchers get days off more than regular players. A Catchers SWP/EG takes this into account, whereas SWP/G does not. Consider then that Pudge has a season SWP/EG of 14.8 and LoDuca has a season SWP/EG of 13.2. Doesn't look to be a significant difference, but accross 81 games (assuming we're currently at the ASB), that means Pudge will outpoint LoDuca 1198.8 to 1069.2.

TLW, the "perfect" team is not without trades. If you think that the "perfect" team is a team of players that is set in stone and never has a trade, specifically for pitcher rotation, then you're missing the whole point. You can't just forget about important aspects of the game like pitcher rotation. It is, and always will be, and integral part of the game. The thing is, when you specify a spot as being rotated, you simply have to account for the more expensive of the 2 pitchers, which was done. Remember, we're talking the "perfect" SW team. Not the "perfect" set of 5 pitchers, 5 infielders, and 4 outfielders. Yes, there is a difference.

207

PudgeFan 07
ID: 40214259
Wed, Jul 04, 22:02

Ira I am disagreeing with you.
Season
------
Pudge- 1039
LoDuca- 868

Sweeney- 1629
Helton- 1728

Berkman- 1638
L. Walker- 1707

Bonds- 1778
Alou- 1283

209

Matt S
Donor
ID: 57543213
Wed, Jul 04, 22:09

esposo has been put out of his misery, Mike C.

210

PudgeFan 07
ID: 40214259
Wed, Jul 04, 22:24

Before the season started, people would probably have a team something like this:

P Pedro Martinez/Randy Johnson
P Greg Maddux
P Kevin Brown
P Tom Glavine
P David Wells

C Ivan Rodriguez

1B Todd Helton/Mark McGwire

2B Jeff Kent

3B Larry "Chipper" Jones

SS Alex Rodriguez

OF Sammy Sosa
OF Barry Bonds
OF Manny Ramirez
OF Ken Griffey Jr.

This is of course before any injuries were found out. (Griffey, McGwire, Brown) You have to admit not many, if any people predicted Bret Boone, Lance Berkman, Ryan Klesko, or Paul LoDuca (if people knew who LoDuca was) to do as good as they have done.

-PF07

211

Judge Mental
ID: 135152111
Thu, Jul 05, 12:42

Based on new information, I rank this thread a 1 again, after having gradually ranked it from a 1 to a 5 over several weeks.

Ira has let his new found fame go to his head and is once again making proclamations with Torre-like smugness.

212

Ira
ID: 53656510
Thu, Jul 05, 12:48

LoDuca was injured for a very long time, thanks for pointing out PudgeFan07 that Pudge has only 200 more than LoDuca, it proves that if LoDuca didnt get injured, he'd be about 300 points over Pudge. Sweeney is only 100 points away from Helton, which isnt much difference other than 3 million dollars for an extra hundred points. Exact same thing with Berkman and Walker. I dont think you can really have a perfect team with trading 3 guys a week

213

Dan
Donor
ID: 45054169
Thu, Jul 05, 12:57

Yes in the long run Pudge will produce a lot more points then LoDuca. The roster I posted is a roster I would like to use if I were to use no trades on my hitters at all, therefore making it a perfect team for the long run, not a short term perfect team.

214

Ira
ID: 53656510
Thu, Jul 05, 13:02

How do u know that Dan? LoDuca has been hot ever since his return. And when Bonds & Walker arent producing worth crap, ur telling me u wont trade them for about a week?

215

KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 51521713
Thu, Jul 05, 16:19

Ira, repeat after me: "S-W-P-per-E-G". It takes injuries, play time (or lack thereof) and points into account.

By saying that LoDuca was injured, thus he would outpoint Pudge, you're only taking points into consideration. This is misleading. "EGs" are games that the player was eligible to play (as in, Not on the DL), and according to Pudge's and LoDuca's SWP/EG, Pudge still outpoints LoDuca.

216

Ira
ID: 58649319
Thu, Jul 05, 16:41

Maybe I should just give up, you guys dont get it, and it looks like you never will. All I'm trying to say is that Pudge has more points than LoDuca because LoDuca was injured and Pudge wasnt. All I'm trying to say is that LoDuca is better because when LoDuca wasnt injured, he had more points. If you note how many points LoDuca got SINCE his return, you'd be surprised to find out that its more than Pudge has since that peticular date. If you look at how many points LoDuca had BEFORE his injury, you'd be surprised that, guess what? LoDuca had more points. surprise surprise, its called concept, what makes you think Pudge would still have more without LoDuca's injury. And dont you throw this "Eligable games" crap on me, because LoDuca has played every game he could (except maybe about 3 or 4 because of Park) and he ROX

217

ID: 14323217
Thu, Jul 05, 21:09

Ira is stupid.

218

butt
ID: 19620521
Thu, Jul 05, 21:20

And you, Casper, are a coward.

219

biliruben
Sustainer
ID: 231045110
Thu, Jul 05, 21:55

beerguy the unfriendly ghost. ;)

220

Micheal
ID: 5815241
Thu, Jul 05, 23:00

Can't believe this stupid thread is still on the first page.

221

Sox Man
ID: 18547259
Thu, Jul 05, 23:06

if im not mistaken wasnt pudge on the DL earlier in the year too?

222

Motley Crue
Donor
ID: 104432913
Fri, Jul 06, 10:49

The Mentors,

Suicide Kings, you know, the 2 kings in a deck of cards with profile views and swords raised above their heads?

No, Ira didn't commit suicide. It is a good movie, though, in the genre of a "Resevoir Dogs" or a "Very Bad Things." One of those "group of guys with a common goal" type movies. And of course, it stars Mr. Walken--the cult movie king. Suprised we haven't seen him in a Star Wars flick yet...

223

KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 51521713
Fri, Jul 06, 19:12

Sox Man, not sure if it was "DL" or not, but Pudge did miss all but 2 games from 4/27 to 5/16 and every game from 5/2 to 5/16.

But I notice Ira suspiciously left this info out of his "stats".

Say it again with me Ira, "S-W-P-per-E-G". Can't go wrong!

224

Ira
ID: 53656510
Fri, Jul 06, 19:29

KKB,READ it with me P-o-s-t-#-2-1-6

225

butt
ID: 11658619
Fri, Jul 06, 19:58

... m - o - u - s - eeeeee

226

KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 51521713
Fri, Jul 06, 20:42

Ira, your post #216 revolves around LoDuca's injury/time off. Try revolving the stats around Pudge's injury/time off. Then again, you might not want to do that because it might (gasp!) prove you wrong.

Then again, you could just look at the SWP/EG and see that you're wrong anyhow, but that would just be too easy I suppose.

227

Ira
ID: 58649319
Fri, Jul 06, 21:34

What i was trying to say was the only reason Pudge has a hiigher EG avr. is because LoDuca was injured for a very long time, and that if LoDuca is a starter, u shouldnt have to look at the EG avr. , but the TSNP/game avrg.

228

KevinL
Donor
ID: 3011622
Fri, Jul 06, 21:52

From the Sartables:

Rodriguez 72 eligible games, LoDuca 68. Both were on the DL a relatively equal time, LoDuca was on just 4 more games.

Rodriguez 66 games played, LoDuca 51. So Pudge has sat only 6 games, while LoDuca has sat 17 games.

Rodriguez 15.7 SWP/G, LoDuca 17.8 SWP/G. LoDuca is getting 2 more SWP when he plays. But he sits much more often.

For the perfect team, I still want Pudge.

229

Ira
ID: 58649319
Fri, Jul 06, 21:55

Park starts during LoDuca being healthy- 17
Kreuter in Parks personal catcher. once a week hes sat

230

BeerGuy
ID: 14323217
Fri, Jul 06, 22:00

Biliruben you have figured me out.

231

KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 51521713
Fri, Jul 06, 22:17

Ira, so you're saying that you shouldn't take into account the fact that a catcher sits 17 out of 68 eligible games? The fact that he does sit for Park starts means that SWP/EG is even more relevant. Once again trying to explain this simple concept, SWP/EG takes into account the number of eligible games a player has sat out. Thus, LoDuca's numbers are worse than Pudge's because LoDuca sits out more eligible games, which adds to the case of Pudge being a better selection. He not only gets more overall points, he also has more opportunities to get points.

You do realize that sitting 17 of 68 games translates to sitting 25% of the games played, don't you? Not quite what I would call "perfect".

The "perfect" team wins with overall points, not SWP/Gm, thus Pudge wins the battle of the catchers because he ends up with more points through a combination of SWP/EG and Games Played.

232

Ira
ID: 58649319
Fri, Jul 06, 23:44

Sorry, sorry, I give up. You win, you win. Happy?

233

KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 51521713
Sat, Jul 07, 00:43

Ira, it's not a matter of being "happy", I'm just trying to show you the flaw in your reasoning in hopes that you will understand it and be able to benefit from it. Remember the whole Conine thing? I tried to tell you what kind of player he was, you didn't listen, you ended up selling him shortly after buying him because he was exactly the kind of player that I said he was, based on his SWP/EG. I, too, used to get caught up in SWP/Gm until I realized how encompassing the EG aspect is. Guys go on the DL? It's factored in. Guys sit out of games? It's factored in. Guys are hot for the games they play? It's factored in.

You, yourself, pointed out that LoDuca sits out every 5th game because of Park. If we were at the ASB, with 81 games remaining, this means that LoDuca would have the potential to play in 65 (64.8) games (4-out-of-5 for 81 games). At his currently listed SWP/Gm (17.8), that's a potential 1157 SWP.

Outside of injury off-time, I can only find 3 games that Pudge has sat out in the first half of the season. If that carries over to the second half, Pudge has a potential to play in 78 games (81 games minus 3 sit-outs). At his currently listed SWP/Gm (15.7) that's a potential 1224.6 SWP.

Can you see the flaw in your reasoning now? Your reasoning assumes that LoDuca will have the same potential number of games played as Pudge, when it's obviously not true. Want to hear something else interesting? Use 81 "Eligible Games" for both players, and use their current SWP/EG (13.3 for LoDuca, 14.4 for Pudge) and you get the following:
SWP based on SWP/Gm for Pot.Gms
LoDuca: 1157
Pudge: 1224.6

SWP based on SWP/EG for 81 games
LoDuca: 1077.3
Pudge: 1166.4

SWP based on SWP/Gm for 81 games
LoDuca: 1441.8
Pudge: 1271.7

The flaw in your reasoning should be absolutely obvious now. Can you see LoDuca's inflated stats based on him playing 81 games using SW's SWP/Gm? Notice that Pudge's totals are only separated by about 100 SWP (about 50 SWP of which are a result of games missed before going on the DL), yet LoDuca's totals are separated by almost 400 SWP (about 75 of which are a result of games missed before going on the DL). Realistically, if a guy played every single team game (or every single eligible game), then all of the above 3 totals would be equal. Since Pudge has played almost every single one of his eligible games, the totals are very close. However, since LoDuca hasn't, the totals are way off, which is why SWP/EG becomes the better indicator, as shown by the close proximity between SWP based on SWP/Gm for Pot.Gms and SWP based on SWP/EG for both players.

Does this make it easier to understand how Pudge will outpoint LoDuca? If LoDuca played every game like Pudge, then yes, LoDuca's your man. But since he only plays 80%, compared to Pudge's almost 100%, he loses out on significant points and the lets Pudge retain the lead.

Again, I'm not trying to be "happy". I'm just trying to point out a flaw in your reasoning that has led to errors in the past and will in the future.

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KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 51521713
Sat, Jul 07, 00:47

BTW, normally a difference of 400 isn't considered "way off", but consider:
1441.8 is 134% of 1077.3 (LoDuca's difference)
1271.7 is 109% of 1166.4 (Pudge's difference)

Now, 400 can be considered "way off", IMHO.

235

Rogue's Strikers
ID: 24540291
Sat, Jul 07, 01:00

Thats all true KKB, but I'd have to think that the Dodgers will get Loduca's bat in there somehow if they stay in the pennant race. If Park is pitching perhaps they'll start him at 1st? I just can't see LA sitting one of their top hitters once every 5 games.

Btw, is 89 SWP really worth the extra 3-4 mil? Until I have over 100 million+ SWD in my bank I'm sure I can spend that money better elsewhere. I know, you never said anything about right now, just who would be the better catcher for a perfect team. I thought I'd point this out anyway. ;)

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The Left Wings
ID: 1528170
Sat, Jul 07, 02:48

Actually, I agree with Ira on the SWP/EG thing.
If you sort players by SWP/EG, I think it's because of laziness. If (just a hypothetical if)I read the baseball news and know that LoDuca is going to play almost as frequently as Pudge for the rest of the season because he has proven that he can hit consistently, then LoDuca is clearly the better choice.
I think one should do some research on the players before buying them.

237

KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 51521713
Sat, Jul 07, 09:10

Rogue's Strikers, the point of the thread is the "perfect" team (most points), not the most "efficient" team (most points for the money). Thus, the argument of how much LoDuca costs is moot. In regular SW terms, yes, LoDuca is more valuable than Pudge, but not in the sense of what is being discussed in this thread.

The Left Wings, I don't sort by SWP/EG and I never said anything about sorting that way. I simply pointed out to Ira that it's a more telling stat than SWP/Gm in that it takes into account games that a player has sat out and will continue to sit out. How it is more lazy than any other stat in the sortables is beyond me because that's exactly what sortables are used for; cutting down research time. And how is sorting by SWP/EG any more lazy than sorting by SWP/Gm (what Ira is promoting)? It's no more "lazy", it's just a better stat to use.

And where is the concrete information that LoDuca will play every day if LOS is in a pennant race? The only time he did play every day was when Karros was injured. And when is it defined that LOS is in a pennant race? They're 4.5 games back right now, yet they still sat LoDuca in Parks last 2 starts. All this stuff is hypothetical. Well, hypothetically, what if Pudge goes on a tear and just explodes in SWP. Isn't that just as possible, too?

Stick to the facts. Pudge is the better choice, in terms of total SWP at any price, at catcher.

238

Ira
ID: 53656510
Sat, Jul 07, 10:33

Note: Post #206- "A Catchers SWP/EG takes this into account, whereas SWP/G does not. Consider then that Pudge has a season SWP/EG of 14.8 and LoDuca has a season SWP/EG of 13.2" Post #215-"Ira, repeat after me: "S-W-P-per-E-G"." -"This is misleading. "EGs" are games that the player was eligible to play (as in, Not on the DL), and according to Pudge's and LoDuca's SWP/EG, Pudge still outpoints LoDuca." Post #223- "Say it again with me Ira, "S-W-P-per-E-G". Can't go wrong!" Post #226- "Then again, you could just look at the SWP/EG and see that you're wrong anyhow, but that would just be too easy I suppose." Post #231- "Ira, so you're saying that you shouldn't take into account the fact that a catcher sits 17 out of 68 eligible games? The fact that he does sit for Park starts means that SWP/EG is even more relevant. Once again trying to explain this simple concept, SWP/EG takes into account the number of eligible games a player has sat out." -"The "perfect" team wins with overall points, not SWP/Gm, thus Pudge wins the battle of the catchers because he ends up with more points through a combination of SWP/EG and Games Played." Post #233- " Use 81 "Eligible Games" for both players, and use their current SWP/EG (13.3 for LoDuca, 14.4 for Pudge) and you get the following:" Post #237- "The Left Wings, I don't sort by SWP/EG and I never said anything about sorting that way" Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..... PS- The link doesnt take you anywhere, its just to make the typoing stand out

239

KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 51521713
Sat, Jul 07, 14:16

Ira, are you completely ignorant or just totally?

The part that you highlighted actually looks more like "I don't sort by SWP/EG and I never said anything about sorting that way. I simply pointed out to [you] that it's a more telling stat than SWP/Gm in that it takes into account games that a player has sat out and will continue to sit out." Please show me, anywhere in my previous posts where I said that I, personally, sort by SWP/EG when looking to buy players. None of the quotes you put in your last post say that so I would love for you to be able to point out where I said that. How about I just save you the time and tell you that you won't find it. It's kind of hard for me to say I sort by SWP/EG when I don't. Every quote you posted refers to the difference between SWP/Gm and SWP/EG. Or did you miss the part in post 206 where I was comparing SWP/EG to SWP/Gm in the first place: "A Catchers SWP/EG takes this into account, whereas SWP/G does not."

Sometimes I wonder why I even try to help someone who raved about Conine's SWP/Gm, then promptly sold him after realizing that he sucked when his SWP/EG showed this all along and was pointed out.

240

Ira
ID: 53656510
Sat, Jul 07, 17:20

Oh yes, I am tooooootally ignorant

241

Ira
ID: 53656510
Sat, Jul 07, 17:29

KKB, click here here to see forum standards.

242

butt
ID: 35649717
Sat, Jul 07, 17:49

Yeah, especially this item:
- If you disagree with someone's opinion or comment, express your disagreement without personal attacks. When you include statements like "You moron", many will immediately discount the message you are trying to deliver.

243

KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 51521713
Sat, Jul 07, 18:50

I'm done with this thread. It's plainly obvious, from both the Conine thread and this one, that Ira 1.) can't comprehend and understand baseball statistics and/or 2.) chooses to ignore statistics that completely refute statements he's made.

Ira, I notice you still have managed to avoid responding to posts 233 and 234. Could it be because your argument for LoDuca is bunk based on the information I have provided in those two posts? Yeah, I think so. But don't bother responding because there's really no need for a response. There is no statistical evidence to refute what I laid out in those 2 threads, so anything you say is your opinion and we know what that is: Conine and LoDuca rule!

So much for trying to help someone understand simple statistics. See ya at the end of the year when, barring unforseen injuries to either player, Pudge will have more SWPs than LoDuca. Bye, bye!

244

Ira
ID: 58649319
Sun, Jul 08, 12:22

Your right KKB, i didnt manage to respond to 233 & 234. Why? I was asleep. I'm not some computer nerd that stays up all hours of the night to wait for someone to respond to my response. I have a life..

245

Makisupa
Donor
ID: 20481514
Sun, Jul 08, 12:34

This is now my favorite RotoGuru soap opera. I used to head over to the Grand Slam Baseball forum for this kind of entertainment, but I don't have to any more. Great stuff KKB!! Ira, nice try.

246

KrazyKoalaBears, CN
ID: 51521713
Sun, Jul 08, 13:40

Ira, you once again managed to not respond to posts 233 and 234. You wouldn't happen to be a politician, would you?

Just respond to the posts. Try to refute them. It's that easy. Forget the personal attacks. Forget everything except those 2 posts and see if you can manage to show how LoDuca is still a better choice than Pudge in spite of the evidence shown in posts 233 and 234.

And FWIW, I take being called a "computer nerd" quite a compliment. It's paid my bills quite nicely and I have a lot of fun doing what I do and am enjoying the opportunity of being my own boss. I've also received many compliments for my work and if it requires being a "computer nerd" to be a very well respected person in my profession, then being a "computer nerd" can't be a bad thing. Further, I enjoy posting to the Rotoguru message boards during "mini-breaks" while doing my work which is why I can often times be found posting at odd hours, a result of an undying love for what I do and my level of commitment to being the best at what I do and providing my clients with the best work for their money. So, thanks for the compliment!

Now, back to posts 233 and 234. Stop avoiding it and skirting the issue.

- KrazyKoalaBears, CN (Computer Nerd)

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KrazyKoalaBears, CN
ID: 51521713
Sun, Jul 08, 13:43

BTW, Ira, are you saying you were asleep when you posted posts 238, 240, and 241?

Just respond to posts 233 and 234 and let the excuses and fact-dodging go. If this were an essay test, it would read something like: "Given the facts listed above (posts 233 and 234), explain how it is possible that Paul LoDuca can be a better choice over Pudge Rodriguez as the Catcher on the "Perfect" points producing team, where the goal is to maximize total points."

It's just that easy.

248

eucalyptus
ID: 12633814
Sun, Jul 08, 14:33

I'm confused ... thought post #243 was the last word by KKB ("I'm done with this thread...").

Don't bite me, marsupial.
:-)

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KrazyKoalaBears, CN
ID: 51521713
Sun, Jul 08, 15:16

Call it a character flaw. I like to respond to people who thing being a "computer nerd" is a bad thing. ;)

Ira, please do not use this argument as a way to avoid responding to posts 233 and 234. I wouldn't want you to spend time arguing the finer points of being a "computer nerd", only to have me, once again, ask you to respond to posts 233 and 234 (which you could have done in post 244, but chose to only post your excuse for not responding, instead of responding).

Remember, LoDuca vs. Pudge. How is LoDuca a better choice given all the information in posts 233 and 234?

250

Ira
ID: 58649319
Sun, Jul 08, 16:21

Response to post 233 & 234- You just damn well cant wait, so I'll just say it. You think you are better than me, youre better than me. You gotta correct me every time i'm wrong to prove your better than me. Hell, you should chang to "Chief". Well, your better than a 12 year old. You should be proud. Asking me if I'm a politician? Good one.

251

Ira
ID: 58649319
Sun, Jul 08, 16:23

I know this forum is for opinions, but since KKB takes the fun out of expressing my opinions on who I think is best. I guess I will just have to stop. Now I betcha KKB will come up with some weird message for this post, but guess what? Now, i just dont give a damn

252

Ira
ID: 0625816
Sun, Jul 08, 16:26

Ok KKB, lets here your next post to deny my previous one's...

253

KrazyKoalaBears, CN
ID: 51521713
Sun, Jul 08, 16:45

Ira, you are right that this forum is about expressing opinions, but its main purpose is to share knowledge about fantasy sports. If someone is always just posting their opinion, without backing anything up with statistics, then it really doesn't mean much and just stays an opinion. If I constantly say, "Richie Sexson is a bad baseball player," then it doesn't mean anything. However, if you state something, then back it up with statistics or other evidence, then it becomes more than an opinion and becomes something to debate and to learn from. Like if I said, "Richie Sexson is a bad ball player because he leads the Majors in K's with 101 and is only hitting .252" then it becomes a point for debate and is no longer soley an opinion.

I'm not trying to shoot down your opinion about LoDuca being "better", which is an arbitrary, opinionated, statement. I even said in post 237 "In regular SW terms, yes, LoDuca is more valuable than Pudge, but not in the sense of what is being discussed in this thread". What I'm trying to do is to debate the merits of LoDuca vs. Pudge with regard to being part of the "perfect" team where maximum points are the sole focus. If you want to simply say, "LoDuca is better", then do that. That's fine, but it has no relevance to this thread, nor to the "perfect" team as it is soley an opinion. However, this is not what you have ever done. You have always tried to back up the thought that LoDuca is a better choice than Pudge with flawed statistics which means your statements are opinions anymore.

Layman's terms:
Opinion: "LoDuca is a better catcher than Pudge"
Statement/Argument: "LoDuca is a better catcher than Pudge because he has a better SWP/Gm"

Yes, there is a difference. And if you don't give a damn, so be it. It's your thread to start with and I'm just trying to show the flaw in your reasoning to help you better understand this aspect of the game so you can better improve your own teams and your thinking behind subjects like this.

Stop taking things so personally and just look at it as a simple debate over who is the better catcher in terms of total SWP over the season: LoDuca or Pudge.

254

KB8ers GM
ID: 0616111
Sun, Jul 08, 17:15

KrazyKoalaBears - Regardin post #253, you write, "If someone is always just posting their opinion, without backing anything up with statistics, then it really doesn't mean much and just stays an opinion.

Actually, when I talk sports, I prefer talkin opinions of players.

While I agree with you that I-Rod will outpoint Loduca at season's end, I base my opinion on what I've seen from them in actual play, not tedious stats.

255

Sox Man
ID: 46654820
Sun, Jul 08, 21:03

ok am i missing something here? if the PERFECT team is the team that has the most points and pudge has more points then loduca wouldnt pudge be the obvious choice? Especially when there is no salary cap.

256

Motley Crue
Donor
ID: 104432913
Mon, Jul 09, 08:48

I think the reason Ira cannot agree with KKB here is evident. This thread has become larger than life in the annals of Rotoguru.com, and to admit that LoDuca should be replaced by Pudge would be tantamount to admitting that the sacred "85 million" around which the fantasy universe revolves is somehow not a correct figure in fact. Yeah right, and the world is round, too, right KKB?

!!

257

Khahan
ID: 12432113
Mon, Jul 09, 09:58

This thread is way too long to ready everything, but I just want to mention to KKB. You said that Lo Duca sits every 5 games when Park pitches. It may be true that Lo Duca does not catch him, but have you noticed who's been playing 1st base lately?
Lo Duca. I'm not trying to argue who is better between pudge and paul, but considering that the Dodgers are using him even when he doesn't catch, you may want to reconsider some of the numbers you've crunched.

258

KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 51521713
Mon, Jul 09, 21:10

Khahan, you're right. This thread has gotten too long. The issue of Park getting rest days on the days Park pitches was already covered in post 237

"And where is the concrete information that LoDuca will play every day if LOS is in a pennant race? The only time he did play every day was when Karros was injured. And when is it defined that LOS is in a pennant race? They're 4.5 games back right now, yet they still sat LoDuca in Parks last 2 starts. All this stuff is hypothetical."

Nothing to reconsider.

259

Bob Sacamano
ID: 21634217
Mon, Jul 09, 21:19

isn't there a thread about Loduca playing Right Field when Park pitches?

260

KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 51521713
Mon, Jul 09, 21:25

Bob Sacamano, as mentioned in that thread, it would be mostly a result of Grissom getting knocked out because of contact with an ump. There doesn't seem to be any evidence that it would be a long term move. If it is, then it certainly changes the complexion of things, but as of now, it still completely depends on the circumstances surround the play time. If Grissom gets his spot back, which seems reasonable considering he's been pretty hot this year compared to years past, then it's no different than LoDuca picking up a few games when Karros was out. I suspect this is the case, but with regard to a Pudge vs. LoDuca debate, it would have to be a "wait-and-see" thing until Grissom is finished with his proposed suspension and the "Park lineup" is finalized again.

Hard to believe that most of the debate really comes down to Chan Ho Park's preference of a Catcher, eh? ;)

261

Bob Sacamano
ID: 21634217
Mon, Jul 09, 21:30

Maddux does the same thing with Javy Lopez. Lopez doesn't call a good game though, from what i here. but that's off the topic

I didn't read the thread a-boot Loduca before i posted here.

262

KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 51521713
Mon, Jul 09, 21:38

Bob Sacamano, it's all good. I'm always up for a good debate. ;)

It's not totally off topic in this thread, but it is interesting that Maddux prefers Perez over Lopez. I'm not sure what kind of game Lopez calls, but it's either bad or it's just not Maddux's style. Either way, you've got to keep a pitcher like Maddux, and Park, happy when they're on the mound and if it takes a different catcher than the "norm", then so be it.

Anyhow, maybe this thread will just die for now and we can come back to it at the end of the year when Piazza is leading all Catchers in SWP. LOL!!! ;)

263

Bob Sacamano
ID: 21634217
Mon, Jul 09, 21:42

Piazza doesn't have a chance now that Carlton Fisk has announced his anticipated return.

:-)

264

chode at work
ID: 41046211
Wed, Jul 11, 13:34

Today is KKB's birthday. Ira, kiss and make up.

265

rfs @ work
ID: 14691111
Wed, Jul 11, 13:39

Wow, this thread actually has some thoughtful debate in the past 6-7 days !

rfs @ work

266

KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 51521713
Wed, Jul 11, 13:40

I'll pass. Thanks. ;)

267

JMISA
ID: 526281221
Fri, Jul 13, 23:26

finally got 85 Bones
but my team still sux da (______(!)

268

Ira
ID: 53656510
Sat, Jul 14, 15:43

Chode at work, My birthday is the day after tomorrow....so there

269

Rogue's Strikers
ID: 24540291
Sat, Jul 14, 15:58

Of note, Loduca playing LF today, Kreuter at C, and Park isn't pitching.

270

Khahan
ID: 12432113
Wed, Jul 18, 11:55

Yes, only $30,000 to go before I can have the PERFECT team and quit worry about money!
Thank you Ira.

271

puckprophet
ID: 1810352017
Wed, Jul 18, 12:02

the threads' rating down .1 to 2.2 , definitly time to sell....

272

butt
ID: 54627218
Sat, Jul 21, 08:27

Ira--> ?

273

Sandlot
ID: 3955578
Sat, Jul 21, 09:18

85 million has come & gone for many of us - my best team is in the 800s - was hoping for better this year but I'm not ashamed either.

BTW, we've got more than enough raters to make this the first quintuple triple in RotoGuru history right?

274

Ira
ID: 53656510
Mon, Jul 23, 21:31

622 voters, geez

275

BoSoxfan9
ID: 33518295
Mon, Jul 23, 22:31

$85 million---is that before or after our tax refund?

276

BoSoxfan9
ID: 33518295
Mon, Jul 23, 22:33

too bad you could only rate this once

277

Britney Spears
ID: 266142411
Thu, Jul 26, 15:08

Well its about time this thread is off of the first page!!!

What!!!

Oh No!!!

Its on top again!!!

Oops, I did it again!!!!

278

puckprophet
ID: 1810352017
Fri, Jul 27, 01:10

BUTT FUNK!!

279

Rogue's Strikers
ID: 24540291
Fri, Jul 27, 03:41

I actually owe Ira for creating this thread because without it post #245 never would have been written and I would have continued ignoring the GSB BB, which is now my favorite game. So, um, thanks Ira. ;)

280

Cyndi Lauper
ID: 266142411
Fri, Jul 27, 09:03

Hey, Boys just wanna have fun!

281

kaopectate
ID: 55711111
Wed, Aug 01, 11:11

Feeling a tad smallwhirled today.

282

smallwhirled
ID: 17152614
Wed, Aug 01, 15:38

ahhhhhh
hahahahahaha!
LMAO in the chair with my knee elevated!

283

The_Beast
ID: 537501114
Sun, Aug 12, 21:47

Wait, someone said 85million is not enough!!! READ THIS THREAD IF YOU DONT BELIEVE IT IS!!!

284

JKaye
Sustainer
ID: 4711592917
Sun, Aug 12, 21:57

Don't much care about the thread, but I'll throw in my $0.02.

My RV is 82.20. Might have 85 to work with for the final week or two, I guess.

285

Y2JS
ID: 48312723
Mon, Aug 13, 08:53

I cant believe this friggin thing is still going! I wake up and its there day after day after day. This is my first post on this thread and it will be the last, enough already with the damn $85mil, lol. If this thing goes till next season i will cry

286

The Left Wings
ID: 456301816
Mon, Aug 13, 14:23

I'm pretty sure this thread will be brought back to the top page next season by somebody, if not me. This thread is hilarious, man. It's an instance of a bunch of grown ups making fun of a kid.

287

perk9600
ID: 4542177
Mon, Aug 13, 14:45

Rated by upwards of 650 people. This will never be topped ever.

288

butt
ID: 34751176
Fri, Aug 17, 06:51

T G I F

289

85 million
ID: 1075259
Mon, Aug 27, 09:24

I will never die!

290

85 million
ID: 1075259
Mon, Aug 27, 09:32

I have 666 ratings!!! HAHAHAHA

The time is now for me to take over the world!

291

85 million
ID: 1075259
Mon, Aug 27, 09:34

Curses! Some damned Gurupie raised the ratings to 667.

Aarrrgh!

292

Myboyjack
Leader
ID: 4443038
Mon, Aug 27, 09:39

I had a bad case of "irrational exuberance" when I got to 85 million because of this thread.

293

Bob Sacamano
ID: 21634217
Mon, Aug 27, 17:19

Is there no end?

294

Ira
ID: 47835120
Tue, Sep 04, 20:17

Happy Belated 4-month Birthday thread..

295

Lutefisker
ID: 15818823
Tue, Sep 11, 00:03

This is just so kewl!!

296

JiZzAl ShAh
ID: 388281310
Thu, Sep 13, 10:49

whoa caln down now
J I D

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tomegun
ID: 3589611
Thu, Sep 13, 23:15

I finally reached 85 mil. Then some cowardly piece of $!@% screws with my country. Its not my fault.

298

Ira
ID: 47835120
Fri, Sep 14, 22:17

ATTENTION: This thread has met another milestone! Not only have we had triple digits in both 1s & 5s, not only have we had this thread 4 and a half months & still running. But we have now reached exacly 700 ratings!

299

ElmIRA
ID: 47941213
Tue, Oct 02, 13:41

:-)

300

Promize
Donor
ID: 30848116
Tue, Oct 02, 13:45

Just wanted to be 300

301

Stud For Hire
ID: 232301912
Tue, Oct 02, 16:42

301
Whooooooooooo!

302

David D. D'Aliso
ID: 39819711
Thu, Oct 04, 10:51

This is the best thread I have ever read in my life. Theoretically if one is to acheive perfection he can attain nirvana with Buddha. Using the Golden Path i have found a way to make $85 million...My team is now ETERNALLLY PERFECT....MUHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAAHHAAHAH. By the way email me a lot....teamer99@aol.com , nyk3k@aol.com , nikechamp99@aol.com , i like sheep

304

Raz
ID: 257382817
Fri, Oct 05, 23:40

I'm sorry, but I had to get at least one post in this thread. It's a classic.

306

nerveclinic
Donor
ID: 225271323
Mon, Oct 08, 02:19

After recent calculations, I have figured out
that 306 is when to stop making posts here & Go to the football page and figure out what the perfect price for football is before you should start working on WWR to have a PERFECT Team.

307

BUD
ID: 7912810
Mon, Oct 08, 18:15

AND ON THE FINAL DAY HE RESTED...

THE END

308

Ironicheid
ID: 942580
Wed, Oct 17, 00:01

=O
O=

309

KTxGOD
ID: 40716221
Wed, Oct 17, 09:10

Why 306 and not 309? =)

310

Sandlot
Donor
ID: 59832108
Fri, Oct 19, 09:02

this thread isn't dead yet?

...oops

311

Bob Sacamano
ID: 21634217
Fri, Oct 19, 20:37

didn't know there were 700 gurupies

313

C1-NRB
ID: 279282917
Mon, Oct 29, 2001, 17:40

I was a prodigal gurupie this year.

I rarely lurked and posted evenly less frequently.

I paid for it, falling from Top 100 WWR last year to high 8,000 this year.

I am just now posting to this thread.

Babyarm.

314

Ira
ID: 1591458
Mon, Oct 29, 2001, 21:04

Today is this thread's 6 month birthday

315

blue hen, almighty
Leader
ID: 27048221
Tue, Oct 30, 2001, 03:18

Kind of nice seeing Yankees Rule post right there up at the top. He's probably the only person with less to say than ira. Another classic was Todd's "shiznit was responsible for the probables" thread where strike one changes his name to Strike Three and says "you're out!" and then says "this is really strike one." I mean come on, it was funny, but did you really have to tell us it was you, just to get attention? Why not just say "Hello look at me" like I do?

316

JMISA
ID: 12101820
Fri, Nov 02, 2001, 00:23

what u talkin bout this thread is legendary

317

Ira
ID: 1591458
Fri, Nov 02, 2001, 09:30

lol, I just noticed post #85 is deleted

318

butt
ID: 46116720
Fri, Dec 07, 2001, 20:06

A whole month without a "BUTT" of this thread? Wake up, peeps!

319

blue hen, almighty
Leader
ID: 34937217
Mon, Dec 10, 2001, 20:56

Exactly JMISA. You are the one who is legendary.

320

smallwhirled
Donor
ID: 157582113
Tue, Dec 11, 2001, 00:45

Hedburg and Roy....haha
;)

321

Mr. Nice Guy
ID: 421124113
Sun, Dec 16, 2001, 21:21

I gave this a 5 just because of all the controversy it has brought about! :-)

322

Bloody Geoff
ID: 121052293
Mon, Dec 31, 2001, 02:11

I just got sent here by mistake - wrong link.
So BUTT and definitely worth a 2 in the interests of the quintuple duple or whatever it was.

323

Motley Crue
Donor
ID: 101010298
Mon, Dec 31, 2001, 11:30

People, won't you ever forget about this thread? Talk about beating a dead horse!

324

¤ Mario LeMoose ¤
ID: 4507122
Tue, Jan 01, 2002, 22:07

Sign o' the times: 85 million USD is now worth 95,394,428.85 EUR (Euros).

Or, using the Harry Potter Currency Converter: 1 galleon, 129,698,276 sickles, and 2,891,250,000 knuts.

325

xman
ID: 50828177
Fri, Jan 04, 2002, 10:28

I cant believe this thread is still here. I've been MIA for about 3 months now, and this is the thread i came back to. lol Maybe is TSN does a little tinkering with the game for this year, 85 million might be right.

326

Micheal
ID: 5815241
Fri, Jan 04, 2002, 18:51

Hey, you guys deleted the "Michael Redd is a Champion" thread in the BBall Forum.

327

perk9600
ID: 4542177
Tue, Feb 26, 2002, 15:55

Since Baseball is heating Up I thought I would BUTT this for old times sake. Posts 2 and 3 still crack me up.

328

smallwhirled
Donor
ID: 157582113
Tue, Feb 26, 2002, 16:40

Browsed a few posts to refresh my memory.

329

Strike One
ID: 356372421
Tue, Feb 26, 2002, 20:45

this is a classic

330

smallwhirled
Donor
ID: 157582113
Wed, Feb 27, 2002, 00:02

331

Ditka85
ID: 528532521
Wed, Feb 27, 2002, 02:09

Some of my favorites were when someone would write that they needed help, and who should they get. Baseball responses were a lot funnier that the stuff in basketball.

332

Ditka85
ID: 528532521
Wed, Feb 27, 2002, 02:11

Strike One's spelling was funny too.

333

InfiniteEternity
ID: 29142712
Wed, Feb 27, 2002, 12:08

334

Pearl St. Punisher
ID: 421012713
Wed, Feb 27, 2002, 12:47

IT'S ALIVE!! ALIVE!!!

335

Mikel @ school
ID: 569283112
Wed, Feb 27, 2002, 13:06

The thing i enjoyed from last year were all the..

Pujols -> ????? Threads

Those were classic

336

perk9600
ID: 4542177
Wed, Feb 27, 2002, 15:26

and don't forget

337

MyDodgers
ID: 32161623
Thu, Mar 07, 2002, 00:30

I loved the Mientkxsyieths threads. This Thread lives forever.

338

Tu Papi
ID: 561412513
Thu, Mar 07, 2002, 14:40

Ira,
Now that the free game has less players to choose, what is the new figure? :P

339

Ira
ID: 1591458
Thu, Mar 07, 2002, 18:08

LOL, it takes so long to load. It's almost a year old now too.

PS- Whoever HASNT rated this thread, rate it

340

Rogue's Strikers
ID: 10235713
Fri, Mar 08, 2002, 01:07

lol, was just re-reading this thread and found this in post #18. Thanks for the tip saw dust...

"1) Try to get as many points as you can by the end of the season. The more points you get the better your chances are of getting a lower WWR( World -wide ranking)."

LOL

341

The Left Wings
ID: 760719
Fri, Mar 08, 2002, 04:43

For the free game: $50M hands down.

342

Bob Sacamano
ID: 142221212
Wed, Mar 13, 2002, 16:31

What does BUTT mean?

343

Ender
ID: 52438315
Wed, Mar 13, 2002, 16:39

BUTT = Back Up To Top

It's also a slang name for some one who won't let this thread die ;)

344

Bob Sacamano
ID: 142221212
Wed, Mar 13, 2002, 16:56

thanks

345

Ira
ID: 1591458
Sun, Mar 17, 2002, 00:43

wow, 871 ratings, lets get to 1000!

346

TaRhEElKiD
ID: 42109719
Sun, Mar 17, 2002, 12:08

OMG-
Post #18 is hilarious in itself!

THK

347

smallwhirled
Donor
ID: 29232811
Sat, Mar 23, 2002, 22:56

and, uhhhh, back up to top

348

Ira
ID: 1591458
Sun, Mar 24, 2002, 00:01

349

Mr. Nice Guy
ID: 421124113
Tue, Mar 26, 2002, 02:43

350

perk9600
ID: 4542177
Tue, Mar 26, 2002, 08:02

I can't wait to go for WWR 85 this year.

351

Ira
ID: 1591458
Wed, Mar 27, 2002, 20:32

Back
Up
To
Top

352

wqrtyt
ID: 50026415
Fri, Mar 29, 2002, 10:19

I rated it a 1. 599 one's. one more to make 600.

353

Matt S
Donor
ID: 47115618
Fri, Mar 29, 2002, 14:07

I've just changed my 11 month old rating of 1 to a 5.

April 29, 2001. A Date that will live in infamy!
Matt S

354

Ira
ID: 1591458
Fri, Mar 29, 2002, 15:04

Another milestone! 600 1s. 5 votes away from 900, and 105 away from being 1000!!

355

destiny's chico
ID: 77121811
Fri, Apr 19, 2002, 07:48

BUTT
#353- you mean March 29, dont you?
Anyway, for those interested the rating of this thread is currently:
2.170731707317073170731707317073170732

Keep the ratings coming!

356

perk9600
ID: 12310312
Fri, Apr 19, 2002, 08:12

all 905 votes should be 1's

357

BoNkA@school
ID: 30320198
Fri, Apr 19, 2002, 08:22

Haven't you guys let this post go yet?
I remember when everyone started giving it fives, lol.

358

Mile Hi Rocks
ID: 583302315
Tue, Apr 23, 2002, 15:33

BUTT for the funniest posting ever

359

Mr. Nice Guy
Donor
ID: 421124113
Tue, Apr 23, 2002, 15:43

6 days away from the one year anniversary!

360

Ira
ID: 1591458
Tue, Apr 23, 2002, 17:35

915 vootes, only 85 left...

361

ChicagoTRS
Sustainer
ID: 10350110
Fri, Apr 26, 2002, 17:45

butt

27 more ratings for 1000

362

Mr. Nice Guy
Donor
ID: 421124113
Mon, May 06, 2002, 14:53

JUST 21 more ratings for the magic number.

363

The Left Wings
ID: 760719
Mon, May 06, 2002, 15:32

Wow, nobody noticed that last Monday was this thread's first birthday.

364

MyDodgers
ID: 32161623
Mon, May 06, 2002, 17:31

Happy Birthday to Ira's 85, its been two years and Im STILL not there.

365

Ira
ID: 1591458
Mon, May 06, 2002, 17:36

Only 12 more ratings till 1000

PS: Notice how it went from 2.3 to 2.1 in about 2 months? Tsk Tsk...

PPS- Happy belated birthday to this wonderful thread

366

rage_22
Donor
ID: 41301611
Mon, May 06, 2002, 22:28

We got it!

367

Ira
ID: 1591458
Mon, May 06, 2002, 23:25

1001 votes! Very first thread in history of Rotoguru Message Forum!! Be Proud!

368

Ira
ID: 1591458
Sun, May 19, 2002, 20:51

Wow, 4th page.... Oops, guess I brought it back to the first...

Lets be the only thread to get 1000 ratings and 1000 posts

369

Ira
ID: 1591458
Sun, May 19, 2002, 20:52

370

Ira
ID: 1591458
Sun, May 19, 2002, 20:52

371

Ira
ID: 1591458
Sun, May 19, 2002, 20:52

372

Gangman
Leader
ID: 967310
Sun, Jul 14, 2002, 09:16

Just looking at the standings and noticed that one Gurupie, El Nino has reached the Magic Number this year.

Congratulations on your 85 million $ RV. Very impressive!

According to Ira, you can now go for the coveted 85 WWR.

373

Ira
ID: 27771721
Tue, Sep 17, 2002, 23:00

How did this get back to the top?

374

Go Easy
Donor
ID: 3816189
Wed, Sep 18, 2002, 16:48

Got through about the 1st 20 posts and started enjoying this thread again. Think I'll wait for a slower day to finish it out(tomorrow).I think this one ranks up there with "you know you are a gurupie when?" (hope that is close)thread. Or that YOUNGBUCK (I swiped the basketball thread). Matter of fact if I had the time, I would post a thread with "links to some of the best threads" as a title with links. Maybe some of you studs have time.Hope it is very slow at work tomorrow if this is the case.

375

The Left Wings
ID: 1668298
Thu, Sep 19, 2002, 06:04

Don't be too anxious about getting 1000 posts, Ira. Read posts 167 and 168. It's been too long since you made the promise, huh? =)

376

Ira
ID: 27771721
Thu, Sep 19, 2002, 17:30

Look, I DID offer money that one time, but we didnt reach the goal, therefor, no money...

377

YR
ID: 4813222
Mon, Sep 30, 2002, 15:52

cheap skate...

378

Ref
ID: 28045169
Mon, Sep 30, 2002, 17:57

Ira I would like to sue you. I had over $ 86 mil but was still 130K shy of getting RJ last week and therefore lost 150 pts. What in the name of Ira happened? ;)

379

Ira
ID: 27771721
Mon, Sep 30, 2002, 18:01

Notice how this was LAST YEAR'S NUMER? Don't even get me started on this year's...

380

R
ID: 38426220
Tue, Oct 15, 2002, 17:36

381

Ira
ID: 27771721
Tue, Oct 15, 2002, 21:10

Hi R, how's it going?

382

Ira
ID: 27771721
Thu, Nov 28, 2002, 18:52

hehe, Baseball boards are boring these days, so...

383

Micheal
ID: 28112214
Sun, Dec 01, 2002, 08:15

Dude, let it go. This thread is like an athlete who hangs around well past his prime.

384

MNG@college
ID: 117422015
Tue, Dec 03, 2002, 15:46

...Jose Canseco???

385

Puckprophet
ID: 421182417
Wed, Dec 25, 2002, 00:02

like , um , terry bradshaw?

386

Whitey
Sustainer
ID: 47130129
Thu, Dec 26, 2002, 13:17

Patrick Ewing??

387

Ira
ID: 27771721
Fri, Dec 27, 2002, 11:34

Paul COffey

388

Ira
ID: 27771721
Sun, Dec 29, 2002, 14:40

Blue Hen?

389

Motley Crue
Donor
ID: 51281713
Wed, Apr 02, 2003, 11:00

Hi, can I have a banana split?

~Um...we don't have those.

That's ok. I already SPLIT my PANTS!

390

Pearl St. Punisher
Donor
ID: 2262713
Wed, Apr 02, 2003, 12:47

Ira,

don't let this thread be your claim to fame. It's like being proud of doing an audition for American Idol and not even making it. (do all those people suck? or is it just me)

just shoot this broken-leg horse already. it has suffered enough.

-Punisher

391

Matt G
ID: 43047610
Wed, Apr 02, 2003, 12:50

That blonde chick, Kimberely Caldwell...she can suck all she wants, anytime she wants. She's so damn hot.

392

Liam Lynch
ID: 51281713
Wed, Apr 02, 2003, 13:13

I went down to the beach to see Kiki. She was all like "Uhhh Ahhhh" and I was like

"WHATEVER!"

393

Matt G
ID: 43047610
Wed, Apr 02, 2003, 13:27

ROFLMAO that was good lynch, made me laugh, god I hate work...I'm so f-ing bored

394

TacoJohn
ID: 591522417
Wed, Apr 02, 2003, 13:41

48 Million.

That's the number!

...for Basic. If you get that you can go for the coveted "Auto-Division Championship"

I'll explain where I got that number... in a few days.

395

Motley Crue
Donor
ID: 51281713
Wed, Apr 02, 2003, 13:46

Please don't, Taco John. It will pale in comparison to Ira's original explanation of the $85M phenenomenon.

By the way, can anyone tell me who is better: Paul LoDuca or Ivan Rodriguez?

Or Doug ?

396

Jevon Kearse
ID: 17837414
Wed, Apr 02, 2003, 13:54

Wow, this thread has been active for 2 years now and I still laugh my ass off at post #2. Absolutely classic.

397

Matt G
ID: 43047610
Wed, Apr 02, 2003, 14:05

The best is Ender's response. Just a simple

"Thanks."

Great stuff man.

398

Chuck @ work
ID: 571132017
Wed, Apr 02, 2003, 18:26

Motley-- I was wondering the same thing concerning Alou vs. Bonds. I think I might take Alou ;)

399

Motley Crue
Donor
ID: 51281713
Thu, Apr 03, 2003, 06:59

You mean Felipe Alou? As in, a clubhouse staredown?

Barry: Yo, Fil-EEP, why you wanna pull me after 8, baby? If we get 3 guys on next inning, I could bat again, and go for the Cove.

Felipe: Barry, Barry, Barry, I wan you fresh for tomarrow. We play LA and I wan you to hit FIFE HOME RRRUNS. Cinco, you know, baby?

Barry: (Scowl, Nasty Stare)

Felipe: (Firm Stare)

Barry turns tail and hits the showers.

Yeah, I guess I'd take Alou, too.

400

DC
ID: 381242018
Mon, May 05, 2003, 17:08

BUTT

401

Ira
ID: 46345416
Mon, May 05, 2003, 17:56

ugh.. You think this can make 500? If so, would it be the first?

402

jseth333
Sustainer
ID: 145259
Mon, May 05, 2003, 18:10

I have been a lurker for years. Everytime I see this post I crack up. May it live on forever.

403

Bykov
ID: 1946115
Mon, May 05, 2003, 19:33

Ira:

Did you in the last 2 Years make the coveted 85M?

This thread is so kewl.

404

Farn
Donor
ID: 7822711
Mon, May 05, 2003, 20:32

I think this thread would have had a fighting chance to die without Ira's self promotion. Even when it was on its way out he dug it out and topped it.

(post #'s 161,294,351,368,373,382)

405

Jesse
Donor
ID: 152472014
Mon, May 05, 2003, 20:38

O M G !

406

sum1dummer
ID: 2543967
Tue, May 06, 2003, 10:34

dummer now that I just wasted 20 minutes reading this thread. But, since misery loves company...

BUTT!

407

On the 85th year
ID: 10344614
Tue, May 06, 2003, 10:38

Melvin Mora is great, you should by him. LOL

408

Jevon Kearse
ID: 17837414
Tue, May 06, 2003, 10:48

I think the Josh Fogg/Vicente Padilla trains are about to leave the station.

409

Bykov
ID: 113241711
Fri, May 09, 2003, 13:52

Ever seen sleeping dogs? I kick 'em.

BUTT

410

TDM
ID: 263322918
Fri, May 09, 2003, 19:20

After reading through this thread, it was disappointing to see that Guru has never posted here...

411

Da Bomb
ID: 54233616
Fri, May 09, 2003, 20:32

Re: 197...I would not put Randling on my perfect
team. Wait a second...that post was from like 20
years ago...

412

The Left Wings
ID: 6142019
Sat, May 10, 2003, 03:30

Of course Guru wouldn't post here. But the fact that he (and other moderators) kept this thread from being deleted does say something about this thread.

413

Ira
ID: 46345416
Sat, May 10, 2003, 10:50

wow, didn't realize I was so immature 2 years ago.. lol, my bad

414

Da Bomb
ID: 54233616
Sat, May 10, 2003, 15:30

Well its been 2 years and Ira finally apologizes
for creating this thread. :)

415

Ira
ID: 46345416
Sat, May 10, 2003, 16:07

Who said anything about an apology..

416

icer
ID: 15331119
Thu, May 22, 2003, 06:13

lol

what an idiot

417

JerryLewis
ID: 4447199
Thu, May 22, 2003, 11:41

After recent calculations I have concluded that IRA was DRUNK when he made this post 3 years ago.

418

JerryLewis
ID: 4447199
Thu, May 22, 2003, 11:44

OOPS! somebody already said that. Where's the SELF EDIT button?

419

Strike One
ID: 356372421
Thu, May 22, 2003, 16:13

Ira was 13 years old three years ago.

420

icer
ID: 15331119
Thu, May 22, 2003, 16:16

This is just the kind of thing I'd expect from a drunk 13-year-old

421

Ira
ID: 46345416
Thu, May 22, 2003, 18:38

Not quite SO, I turn 15 in July

422

Trickpat16
ID: 7441620
Fri, May 23, 2003, 00:07

You'll be 16 by the time this thread stops

423

lovin' it
ID: 147372019
Mon, Sep 15, 2003, 16:48

BUTT

424

Ref
Donor
ID: 100261311
Mon, Sep 15, 2003, 17:10

Ira was ahead of his time ;)

425

JerryLewis
ID: 508487
Mon, Sep 15, 2003, 17:44

I can tell I have a good internet connection. This thread loaded in about 1 second. :)

426

JerryLewis
ID: 508487
Mon, Sep 15, 2003, 17:48

IRA, did you flunk out of high school yet?

427

blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Mon, Sep 15, 2003, 21:08

I haven't clicked in here in a while. I only posted once, almost two years ago, when the thread was well past its prime. But what a post it was...

428

Ira
ID: 46345416
Mon, Sep 15, 2003, 21:34

JerryLewis, I just started High School 3 weeks ago. Give me a month ;)

429

DeD babieZ i eAT
ID: 35227420
Mon, Apr 05, 2004, 00:15

buttocks

430

Bob Sacamano
ID: 13113514
Mon, Apr 05, 2004, 00:42

back with a vengence

431

blue hen
ID: 331038201
Mon, Apr 05, 2004, 01:06

Ira, you shouldn't eat dead babies.

This brings back memories of a simpler time. If you saw a post from Youngbuck, Ira, YankeesRule, or Todd, you just ignored it. Now there are so many other annoying people coming out of the woodwork. I can't wait until they post in this thread.

432

The Left Wings
ID: 6142019
Mon, Apr 05, 2004, 04:58

OMG this thread is almost 3 years old... And I've been at Rotoguru for 5 years... Where has the time gone???

433

smartone @work
Donor
ID: 29452720
Mon, Apr 05, 2004, 10:08

isn't Ira the guy that started the hilarious thread about his sister, her bf and his dad? if so, how's everything in the family?

434

Great One@ Work
ID: 40150137
Mon, Apr 05, 2004, 10:13

memories...

435

Baldwin
ID: 20337320
Mon, Apr 05, 2004, 11:04

I've been stranded on the poliboards too long. rereading this was a gas. 8]

436

Matt G
ID: 24212268
Mon, Apr 05, 2004, 11:25

I cringe when I see this thread. I tried reading the whole thing and it was impossible.

On a lighter note $87 million is how much you need for the perfect team, Ira's calculation was wrong....but only by 2million. So when someone gets to $87 million let me know so we can concede the WWR title to you.

437

Ira
ID: 46338611
Fri, Apr 09, 2004, 15:04

smartone, it's over with them...I think..

438

Mikel
ID: 22340312
Fri, Apr 09, 2004, 15:19

Ira's highly detailed explanation in post #76 is amazing.

439

beastiemiked
ID: 2601988
Fri, Apr 09, 2004, 15:44

This thread is a lot like Chris Rock. Overrated and not funny.

440

Ira
ID: 1128615
Fri, Apr 09, 2004, 23:37

Yet you still click into this thread and feel the need to post.

You sure made your point...(smirks)

441

The Left Wings
ID: 6142019
Sat, Apr 10, 2004, 02:33

And Ira's like 18 years old now.

442

TaRhEElKiD
ID: 150521415
Sat, Apr 10, 2004, 02:41

LoL. I had always heard of this thread but never seen it. I also heard that Ira was really old, but he is even trailing me by a year!

Now...what should I rate it?

THK

443

Filthy Rich
ID: 171292911
Sat, Apr 10, 2004, 05:22

Charles Johnson's a better buy than Loduca or Pudge;)

444

KnicksFan
Donor
ID: 30815418
Sat, Apr 10, 2004, 05:35

The Yankees are perfect and they cost much more than $85 million.

445

TaRhEElKiD
ID: 150521415
Sat, Apr 10, 2004, 13:01

KF-
Actually the Yanks still need a 2B and possibly some more SPs! At 150+ million too...

THK

446

Stuck in the Sixties
Dude
ID: 274132811
Sat, Apr 10, 2004, 18:05

Gotta love it!

Don

447

Ira
ID: 1128615
Sat, Apr 10, 2004, 20:01

The Left Wings, 15 in July..

448

Ira
ID: 1128615
Sat, Apr 10, 2004, 20:01

The Left Wings, 15 in July..

449

Bob Sacamano
ID: 13113514
Mon, Apr 12, 2004, 02:51

making fun of IRA's is getting pretty old

better to be 14 than 44

450

Matt G
ID: 24212268
Mon, Apr 12, 2004, 10:13

I think this is the most amazing post in this thread, from Ira's Explanation in post #76

4 great OF (Alou, L.Walker,
L.Gonzo, Juan Gone)

:)

451

Deadeyes
ID: 18115269
Mon, Apr 12, 2004, 11:54

can some please explain this post? did this 13 year old win last year?

452

Ira
ID: 1128615
Mon, Apr 12, 2004, 14:02

lol, is there no self-edit on Rotoguru anymore?

I'm 15 now.. My birthday is in July, I'll be turning 16 this year. I'm a little slow :P

453

Motley Crue
ID: 26242112
Mon, Apr 12, 2004, 16:16

Ira wears this thread like a badge of Honor. Do you brag to your real world friends about this thread, Ira?

I judge people in this forum by how many responses they have made to this particular thread. If you haven't made at least one, you aren't cool.

454

Matt G
ID: 24212268
Mon, Apr 12, 2004, 16:30

Ira, why haven't you changed your name?

455

Ira
ID: 46338611
Tue, Apr 13, 2004, 22:38

Ahahaha Motley Crue, you posted in this thread 9 times, I guess you aren't cool.

456

mrbig
ID: 374342616
Wed, Apr 14, 2004, 01:55

Wow Motley Crue, pretty strong language there. I have now officially posted on this thread, hopefully making me cool in your book. Took a while to post considering I read it the day it was written...

457

gibby88
ID: 1511521219
Wed, Apr 14, 2004, 12:58

so 50 million means a 50 wwr? sweet!

;}

458

Motley Crue
Sustainer
ID: 439372011
Wed, May 26, 2004, 11:44

mrbig, welcome to the cool club. As for the rest of you, what are you waiting for? Don't you want to be cool in my book?

I saw the Terrence and Phillip Movie, yes, yes. Who wants to touch me?

I said who wants to f____' touch me?!

459

Motley Crue
Sustainer
ID: 439372011
Fri, May 28, 2004, 15:44

Nooooo! Come back, 85 Million!

460

Deadeyes
ID: 6482120
Fri, May 28, 2004, 19:17

IRA what happened with you, your sister and your dad? I want the full story. I have some good stories too to tell you about my family. Let's hear yours and I'll tell you mine.

461

Ira
ID: 12322510
Sat, May 29, 2004, 20:16

Oh, it's all over now.. She's moved on, and my dad and her are still on as even terms as before it ever happened. It was so long ago, I forget exacly how it ended, but I think she finally realized he's a bum

462

Deadeyes
ID: 6482120
Sat, May 29, 2004, 21:18

who is a bum? your dad!!! trust me i have always been the black sheep of the family until one of my sister took over the role. It's not easy. My dad was a military guy and very strict. VERY VERY strict. He was raised poor and his dad was an army guy. ONe of the highest ranked officers. Granny once said that when he was like 8 he was a caddy for his dad. One of his dad's friends offered him a soda and "my dad-the 8 year old took it" He was punished severly because his dad couldn't afford to buy his own son a soda pop.

I was given everything because my dad was given nothing from his parents. But rules had to be followed. I never did anything bad until now. I didn't have my first drink until i was 21. I never stayed out late. Did all chores in the house. Fixed all cars. I had to get up at 5 am every night. I went to a private high school that was an hour commute. Life moves on.

463

Deadeyes
ID: 6482120
Sat, May 29, 2004, 21:21

I remember one time me and my older sister got into a fight over the tv.

Let's just say the tv sat out on the lawn for a week. Not sure how he threw out so far.

One time i busted a window with BB gun.
I remember my dad's words. "Here's your BB gun Son and he broke over his knee."

464

Ira
ID: 12322510
Sat, May 29, 2004, 22:06

lol, I didn't mean to say my dad was a bum, I meant the guy was a bum. I wouldnt say that my sister ended it with her boyfriend because she realized her dad was a bum, lol

465

Y2JS
ID: 55433210
Sun, May 30, 2004, 00:57

Re: Post 285

My bad. I've posted again but I am not crying. 85 million 4 LIFE

466

Motley Crue
Sustainer
ID: 439372011
Tue, Jun 01, 2004, 09:41

467

Motley Crue
Sustainer
ID: 439372011
Fri, Jun 04, 2004, 09:48

After recent calculations, I have figured out that this thread needs to be BUTT'ed.

468

MadDOG
ID: 5154149
Fri, Jun 04, 2004, 10:44

After recent calculations, I have determined that this thread wasn't that funny to be dug up from the grave every few weeks or so.

Let's move on with our lives. Kill It!! Let it die!

:)

469

MadDOG
ID: 5154149
Fri, Jun 04, 2004, 10:52

BTW, this thread is so old and long that one can barely come up with anything original to say. That post above may have been said somewhere along the way.

I went back to read post 285 cause Y2JS mentioned it and they were asking for this thread to die back then.

470

Motley Crue
Sustainer
ID: 439372011
Tue, Jun 08, 2004, 17:26

This thread reminds me of a piece of soap that keeps slipping out of my hands in the shower.

471

roar
ID: 323441622
Sun, Jun 13, 2004, 21:43

butt nation

472

Motley Crue
Sustainer
ID: 439372011
Fri, Jun 18, 2004, 10:18

So, do you think Tiger will make his way up the leaderboard, or do you think Haas and Mickelson will fend off the charge?

473

Motley Crue
Sustainer
ID: 439372011
Fri, Jun 18, 2004, 10:19

Oops! Wrong thread, sorry.

474

Pops
ID: 194442122
Sun, Jun 20, 2004, 22:49

hahahahah I have been at this site since before there ever was a forum, yet I always managed to stay away from this thread.

After reading this:

# 227

Britney Spears
ID: 266142411
Thu, Jul 26, 15:08

Well its about time this thread is off of the first page!!!

What!!!

Oh No!!!

Its on top again!!!

Oops, I did it again!!!!

----------

LMFAO!!!!!
Seriously though, LMFAO!!!!!

Really I don't know why, but that is seriously laugh out loud funny! Maybe it's b/c of the drugs/sex/marriage/boyfriends that Britney has been through since this thread started and since that post was made...kind of like a 'who would have guessed' type thing.

Thanks for the good times Ira.

475

Big Papa
ID: 307351310
Tue, Jun 22, 2004, 09:52

Hey Ira what's your sister's # ?
I'll show her a good time

476

488th Intel Squadron
ID: 365342313
Wed, Jun 23, 2004, 20:45

speaking of hated posters, what ever happened to YOUNGBUCK?

477

Motley Crue
Sustainer
ID: 439372011
Mon, Jun 28, 2004, 17:22

Oh no you don't. Get back up here.

478

Motley Crue
Sustainer
ID: 439372011
Tue, Jul 13, 2004, 14:54

Heh heh

479

Ira
ID: 23651813
Tue, Jul 13, 2004, 15:16

My birthday's on Friday. I like Birthdays.

480

MadDOG
ID: 22671315
Tue, Jul 13, 2004, 16:27

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

481

dgrooves
ID: 513181020
Tue, Jul 13, 2004, 19:04

Heh heh

You're pathetic.

482

Motley Crue
Sustainer
ID: 439372011
Wed, Jul 14, 2004, 08:36

: )

483

Skidazl
Leader
ID: 379312323
Thu, Jul 15, 2004, 17:22

RE: post 476 see the poster of post #8 in this thread

484

Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Jul 15, 2004, 17:31

I'm not sure what post 483 means. But I'm pretty sure that the author of post 476 was Youngbuck.

485

Skidazl
Leader
ID: 379312323
Thu, Jul 15, 2004, 21:27

Wow, all this time, I was thinking ukula WAS Youngbuck

486

Deadeyes
ID: 75151317
Thu, Jul 15, 2004, 23:13

I AM A ROCK STAR.

I AM A ROCK STAR.

487

ukula
ID: 20831621
Fri, Jul 16, 2004, 00:05

Re #485 - Huh?

I was looking at one of my teams this afternoon and contemplating some moves when I mumbled to myself, "If I had an extra 5 mil in RV I'd be all set." My team currently has about 80 million in RV. I then thought to myself, "Damn, Ira was right all this time!." You may laugh at this thread but in my eyes Ira is a modern day Copernicus.

Long live Ira!!

488

TB
Leader
ID: 31811922
Fri, Jul 16, 2004, 00:13

Happy Birthday, Ira.

489

Ira
ID: 23651813
Fri, Jul 16, 2004, 00:25

Thanks, but technically it's not my birthday for 1 and a half more hours.. I live in Alberta, so it's 10:30 on Thursday.

ukula, who's Copernicus? :)

490

Motley Crue
Sustainer
ID: 439372011
Tue, Jul 20, 2004, 11:11

After recent calculations, I have figured out that I will be the 500th poster in this thread sometime next week.

491

Ira
ID: 423212316
Tue, Jul 20, 2004, 23:20

This is friggin hilarious...

492

MadDOG
ID: 416112019
Tue, Jul 20, 2004, 23:30

It's been posted many times in the Politics forum including once by me.

493

Ira
ID: 23651813
Tue, Jul 20, 2004, 23:35

Yeah, but there are so many baseball guys out there that don't go to that forum. Like seriously, I bet about 10% of the people that surf this board also surfs the Political board.

494

Ira Get a Life
ID: 136432023
Wed, Jul 21, 2004, 00:43

#491

Figures Ira is still starved for attention that he had to post something totally irrelevant in this thread just to get it to the top. Very sad.

495

TB
Leader
ID: 31811922
Wed, Jul 21, 2004, 02:34

I was kinda hoping this hit 500 on his B-day. I was going to help but had to eat some chicken and brussel sprouts.

496

Filthy Rich
ID: 315411012
Wed, Jul 21, 2004, 03:28

494- Actually seems like Motley Crue, not Ira, the one always bringing this back up.

497

Motley Crue
ID: 3281411
Wed, Jul 21, 2004, 06:49

Yes, Filthy Rich, and I would have gotten away with it too, if it wasn't for you kids and your stinking MadDOG!

498

Deadeyes
ID: 75151317
Wed, Jul 21, 2004, 17:48

hi.

499

Deadeyes
ID: 75151317
Wed, Jul 21, 2004, 17:48

hi.

500

Deadeyes
ID: 75151317
Wed, Jul 21, 2004, 17:49

Hi. INfamous 500 is MINE!!!!!!!!!

501

Loser's real name
ID: 236142119
Wed, Jul 21, 2004, 20:14

Shut the hell up John Howe.

502

Motley Crue
Leader
ID: 439372011
Mon, Aug 02, 2004, 17:11

OK, 1000 posts shouldn't be too hard to get.

503

MadDOG
ID: 3271428
Mon, Aug 02, 2004, 17:20

Ira's epitath on his grave stone.

"This man created the 85 million thread at Rotoguru.com. It now has over 2 million posts"

504

Motley Crue
Leader
ID: 439372011
Thu, Aug 05, 2004, 15:25

Whew, my roster value finally reached $85 million today. Time to go for WWR.

505

Motley Crue
Leader
ID: 439372011
Mon, Aug 09, 2004, 09:47

Oh no! My value dropped down to $84,940,000!! I better go for money again.

506

Motley Crue
ID: 58736522
Thu, Aug 12, 2004, 09:54

Was that 85 million dollars?

507

Tranquility
ID: 18115269
Thu, Aug 12, 2004, 10:42

Motley I am doomed. I only have like 68 million

508

Motley Crue
Leader
ID: 439372011
Tue, Aug 17, 2004, 11:24

Do I really have nothing better to do than this? For about 20 seconds a day, I don't. Honest.

509

Motley Crue
Leader
ID: 439372011
Fri, Sep 10, 2004, 09:07

There are 85 million reasons to BUTT this thread and only 1 reason not to.

510

TB
Leader
ID: 031811922
Fri, Sep 10, 2004, 13:48

What is the one reason not to?

511

Motley Crue
Leader
ID: 439372011
Fri, Sep 10, 2004, 14:53

People around here will frown on it.

See? Not that big of a deal.

512

darkside
Dude
ID: 3590317
Fri, Sep 10, 2004, 14:56

Actually, in my opinion, 85 million is a good roster value this year. Lots of cheap options, both hitting and pitching, that make a 90 or 100 million roster unnecessary. Maybe Ira was just ahead of the curve.

513

Motley Crue
Leader
ID: 439372011
Fri, Sep 10, 2004, 16:05

What do you mean "maybe"? The guy was a child genius.

514

The Left Wings
ID: 6142019
Fri, Sep 10, 2004, 17:22

Well yeah, he won the CBC playoff hockey pool this past season and got his family a big screen TV.

515

Ira
ID: 12722311
Fri, Sep 10, 2004, 17:47

..and I'm gonna sell it.

lol, my dad's boss is interested in it. That's 3 Grand coming my way. 3 grand Canadian though, so that's what, 50 bucks American?

516

Motley Crue
ID: 181650
Mon, Sep 27, 2004, 22:16

Running out of original things to post in this thread.

517

TB
Leader
ID: 031811922
Wed, Sep 29, 2004, 01:17

You really should trade me Wheatley while his value is probably peaked out.

518

Motley Crue
Leader
ID: 439372011
Wed, Sep 29, 2004, 08:26

I don't think my starting 0-6 has helped your cause. You see, now it's all about revenge. I need to prove that my draft picks were good ones. I have to make a comeback now. I can't just run up the white flag and dump all of my studs! There is no rebuilding for next year: this is next year.

519

Motley Crue
Leader
ID: 439372011
Tue, Nov 30, 2004, 15:57

OK, so my draft was horrible. But I have been king of the WW.

You still want Wheatley?

520

TB
ID: 4610412220
Wed, Dec 01, 2004, 02:45

Thanks, but I will pass. I was comparing our teams in the two leagues we we are both in and realized this season is a complete fluke. We had great drafts, but the players let us down. That's my story and I am sticking to it. BTW, you are realing screwing up my bid for that last playoff spot in RIFC with that winning streak of yours. Guru was supposed to go ahead and take one of the top six spots and I was supposed to be looking good for spot number 8. Now, if you finish in the top 6, I am competing with him and Sludge for points and that doesn't look so good.

521

Motley Crue
Leader
ID: 439372011
Wed, Dec 01, 2004, 12:26

Yes, but if I score like I did last week, it won't matter whether I win or lose. I caught 67 points on you last week, and over 100 on sludge. Too bad I'm playing Guru and Taxman this week. I need some points!

522

TB
ID: 59933268
Wed, Dec 01, 2004, 13:35

If either of us scored every week like you did last week we would both be in the play-offs for sure. You had a great week. I still don't have access to fanball commisioner from work, but IIRC you had a 160ish and a 130ish scores. Legge has been scoring like crazy lately too.

523

Motley Crue
Leader
ID: 439372011
Wed, Dec 01, 2004, 14:28

Actually it was 150ish and 170ish. And that was with Porter benched on one team, and McGahee benched on the other. Too bad I'm too dumb to have started them both on both teams. I would have had another 60 total points.

God, Seattle stinks. Holmgren should be ashamed of himself for what happened last week.

524

Motley Crue
Leader
ID: 439372011
Wed, Jan 19, 2005, 16:15

Baseball season is just around the corner. I wonder if $85 million will be enough to have a perfect team this season. Can't wait to find out.

What do you think, Ira?

525

Ira
ID: 240262015
Thu, Jan 20, 2005, 16:28

Ever since Smallworld's been charging money, I havn't played this since my 85 mil season..

I've hardcore into hockey fantasy leagues/pools now. Too bad there's a lockout eh?

Besides, the Yankees just piss me off too much to pay attention to baseball anymore. I just watch the playoff games, and that's it.

526

Motley Crue
Leader
ID: 439372011
Thu, Jan 20, 2005, 16:57

Try football. That's fun. Basketball is actually pretty good, too. If you don't mind losing to the Guru.

527

Ira
ID: 0042119
Fri, Jan 21, 2005, 20:06

Just started watching the playoffs. Good stuff. It's still too hard to follow since NFL isn't in Canada, so we dont get much games here. One might argue the same for baseball, but to me, baseball is a more straight forward as far as stats go..

528

Motley Crue
ID: 181650
Sat, Jan 22, 2005, 09:19

Do they show regular season games there? How about the prime time games (Sunday night on ESPN, and Monday Night Football)?

I never thought about that before. I kind of assumed that Canada gets alot of the same programming that we get.

529

The Left Wings
ID: 490272013
Tue, Jan 25, 2005, 12:08

How can football pool be fun? You have like 40 players on each of the 30 teams with a 240-game season, which comes to 0.2 game/player. Comparing to baseball, you have like 40 players on each team (plus callups), but they play almost EVERYDAY in 2430-game seasons, which comes to 2.025 game/player. Each baseball player gets about 10 times as many exposure than a football player does.

Even hockey is better, with about 25 players on each team and 1230-game seasons, it comes to 1.64 game/player.

The best one is basketball, as the number is highest at 3.20 game/player.

How can football fans stand having no games during the weekdays? How can they stand it when the stats of their players don't change during the weekdays?

530

Motley Crue
Leader
ID: 439372011
Tue, Jan 25, 2005, 13:49

What are all of these stats you are throwing around? Seems pretty senseless.

30 teams x 16 games each = 480 team games

Anticipation.

Simple word. It explains so much.

531

The Left Wings
ID: 6142019
Wed, Jan 26, 2005, 13:19

So you mean you'd rather sit around waiting for weekend, instead of having action every night?

*roll eyes*

Whatever suits you...

532

leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Wed, Jan 26, 2005, 13:59

I prefer football because every game means something. The more games you have (i.e. baseball as #1), the less a fan cares about each individual game.

533

Motley Crue
Leader
ID: 439372011
Wed, Jan 26, 2005, 14:17

Especially when it's time to watch the games. I have a hard time watching non-playoff baseball games anymore.

534

Ira
ID: 540103114
Mon, Jan 31, 2005, 15:15

I hear ya Motley Crue.. Only playoffs for me.
Same with NFL for me.

Hockey will always be my #1

535

Alex Trebek
ID: 421571610
Wed, Feb 23, 2005, 11:25

RotoGuru Jeopardy

Answer: $85 Million

Question: How much does MLB plan to make off of their new "licensing agreements" plan, that essentially kills 90% of all online fantasy baseball games?

536

blah
ID: 33935517
Wed, Mar 02, 2005, 10:09

537

Motley Crue
Leader
ID: 439372011
Mon, Mar 14, 2005, 11:10

Now that's what I'm saying.

538

The Left Wings
ID: 6142019
Wed, Mar 16, 2005, 21:38

How old is this thread already? 5 years?

539

Micheal
ID: 54255316
Wed, Mar 16, 2005, 22:00

The last time Apr 29 was on a Sunday was 2001. Why won't people let this thread die?

540

The Left Wings
ID: 6142019
Thu, Mar 17, 2005, 02:34

Cuz Post #2 is the best post ever, definitely getting a 5.

Seriously, this thread has a lot of history about this board in it...

541

Motley Crue
Dude
ID: 439372011
Thu, Mar 17, 2005, 10:30

Yeah, I still crack a smile every time I read the first 20 or so posts. Ira can be proud of his accomplishment. I will see to it that this thread hangs around here as long as I do.

542

Motley Crue
Dude
ID: 439372011
Fri, Apr 08, 2005, 15:47

Speaking of which.

543

Beetski
ID: 363421113
Mon, Apr 11, 2005, 15:49

Is there going to be some kind of anniversary party on the 29th. Can Ira drink yet? Feel slike its been that many years

544

TB
Leader
ID: 031811922
Mon, Apr 11, 2005, 21:40

4 for 22 today for our team thus far. Yuck.

545

Motley Crue
Dude
ID: 439372011
Tue, Apr 12, 2005, 11:35

LOL, #544

So, because they are playing poorly, you put it in this thread?

546

TB
ID: 5809511
Tue, Apr 12, 2005, 11:39

I was thinking this could be our secret strategy thread. How many leaguemates do you think actually look in here? =)

548

Uptown Bombers @Work
ID: 25221110
Tue, Apr 12, 2005, 13:04

I do...

...err, I mean I don't. Post away on strategy. ;)

549

Motley Crue
ID: 52450513
Fri, May 13, 2005, 08:54

What?! A whole month since anyone posted in here? Nonsense.

I'm glad I am up to $84 million. I will hit the magic number very soon, and then, in the words of a true genius, I can "stop $$ making & Go for
WWR"

Or is it "stop $$ making & Go for
WWR 85 that is, to have a PERFECT Team"?

OK, now I'm confused. Am I going for WWR 85, or $85 million?

550

Motley Crue
ID: 52450513
Wed, May 25, 2005, 11:20

551

Motley Crue
ID: 52450513
Wed, Jun 01, 2005, 11:30

My friend slam says he loves this thread.

552

TB
ID: 5809511
Wed, Jun 01, 2005, 13:32

I see dead people.....

553

Stuck in the 60s
Dude
ID: 274132811
Wed, Jun 01, 2005, 15:12

May this thread continue forever!!

Don

554

Motley Crue
ID: 52450513
Wed, Jun 01, 2005, 16:04

I see dollar signs... 85,000,000 of them...

555

MikeyB
ID: 442113120
Wed, Jun 01, 2005, 16:07

How many years has this thread been going for? I would guess at least 5?

556

Motley Crue
ID: 52450513
Fri, Jun 03, 2005, 10:52

MikeyB, you have to be the first new poster in this thread in a while. Congratulations. Good job helping the cause.

557

Motley Crue
Dude
ID: 439372011
Mon, Jul 18, 2005, 16:23

That's a railroad job.

558

¤ Mario LeMoose ¤
ID: 30691819
Mon, Jul 18, 2005, 20:09

MikeyB: Since Sunday, April 29, 2001

Did you know ...
The Evil Empire has not won a World Series since this thread was started.
May it live in perpetuity.

559

Motley Crue
ID: 213222620
Tue, Jul 19, 2005, 11:45

I'll second that.

560

Motley Crue
Dude
ID: 439372011
Thu, Jul 21, 2005, 15:56

Hamburger Helper

561

Sandlot
ID: 8851199
Mon, Sep 19, 2005, 10:59

Man, been a long time since I've posted here. Couldn't think of a better place to do it.

hehehe - nice to see the generator is still around...

562

Motley Crue
Dude
ID: 439372011
Mon, Sep 19, 2005, 11:08

Rebel Yell

563

Frick@Work
Donor
ID: 3410101718
Wed, Mar 29, 2006, 09:07

With the discusion of Pimpski's threads ratings, and the lack of value for rating a thread, this seemed timely.

564

Motley Crue
Dude
ID: 439372011
Wed, Mar 29, 2006, 10:00

WOOT! I forgot about 85 million for a while.

Great work, Frick.

We'll get to 1,000 posts one day.

565

dollarbill
ID: 552232811
Wed, Mar 29, 2006, 12:09

You know, it's been a few years since I've been on this web site. Obviously, some things never change. Ira is still Ira.

566

Motley Crue
Dude
ID: 439372011
Wed, Mar 29, 2006, 14:21

Ira is still Ira. Yeah, that's a logical assertion.

567

blue hen
ID: 38135621
Wed, Mar 29, 2006, 16:45

Outside of post 565, seems like Ira hasn't posted in over a year...

568

Steve Biz
ID: 162132716
Wed, Mar 29, 2006, 17:03

Wow does this bring back old times. I remember this one from way way back in the day. Reading response number two from Yankees Rule always gives me a chuckle. He really called it like he saw it. And how right he was.

569

Steve Biz
ID: 162132716
Wed, Mar 29, 2006, 17:14

Man, I was just reading through this bad boy and man are there some classics. I love in Post 76 where Ira explains his logic. He starts by saying that he actually came up with 86.5, but rounded off. Then, in showing where he got his number, he comes up with a total of 84.06. Hysterical.

570

Firefly
ID: 154352216
Mon, May 22, 2006, 17:41

BUTT. How did this fall so far back?

571

Bond, James Bond
ID: 54410197
Mon, May 22, 2006, 18:38

Is $85M still the magic number today?

572

mrbig
ID: 3310412311
Wed, May 24, 2006, 13:46

The magic number today is $49.38 million (at least it was at the beginning of the year.

TSN forum link

Who needs $85 million when you have the foresight of Nostredamus?

573

Motley Crue
Dude
ID: 439372011
Wed, Jun 21, 2006, 08:42

Only two and a half months until the NFL season starts.

574

Stuck in the 60s
Dude
ID: 274132811
Wed, Jun 21, 2006, 16:20

God, I love it when this thread comes out of the woodwork. It's a time capsule.
Anyone know whatever happened to Ira?

Don

575

Taxman
SuperDude
ID: 029463114
Mon, Jun 26, 2006, 22:35

You can find IRA on the Hockey boards on a regular basis in season

576

clv
Sustainer
ID: 5911351713
Tue, Jun 27, 2006, 16:20

Is $85M still the magic number today?

I hope not...I'm not quite there yet!!!

577

C1-NRB
ID: 5131158
Tue, Jul 11, 2006, 16:32

BUTT for the Most Boringest SportsDay of the Year

578

The Left Wings
ID: 10522113
Wed, Jul 12, 2006, 08:49

Holy crap this topic is over 5 years old!!! And reading about Randroing is almost nostalgic!

Just realized that I've been around these boards for over 7 years now. Dang I feel old.

And Ira's 18 years old now. ROFL.

579

Motley Crue
Dude
ID: 439372011
Wed, Jul 12, 2006, 09:20

I'd like to hear Ira's thoughts on all of this at some point. Ira, if you read this, you have nothing to be ashamed of. You really opened a can of worms with this thread. It turned into one of the greatest communal events this message board has ever experienced. I think it's cool, and I think most other people here do, too.

I can't even remember when I got here. That's pathetic. I think it must have been in about '98 or so.

580

clv
Sustainer
ID: 5911351713
Wed, Jul 12, 2006, 13:22

Can't believe I never rated this thread until today!!!

581

Kyle
ID: 261371521
Fri, Jul 21, 2006, 15:32

It's been 9 days and Buddy just posted a topic along these lines.
Let's BUTT it.

582

purple pill
ID: 287163117
Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 18:19

BUTT. HAHA this is classic.

583

Idiot Moron
ID: 328361216
Fri, Sep 15, 2006, 05:05

Nobody, and I mean nobody, comes into our house and pushes us around. Nor do they invade our message boards with stupid posts that will be edited out before anyone reads them. Why are you trying to get under his skin on a message board? Just go beat him up.

584

Motley Crue
Dude
ID: 439372011
Fri, Sep 15, 2006, 11:06

Who doesn't?

586

Mr. Sagdiyev
ID: 3010291311
Mon, Nov 13, 2006, 12:31

BUTT. This is a classic. How can it go almost two months without getting BUTTed?

587

Tree
ID: 1411442914
Mon, Nov 13, 2006, 12:44

someone is a Borat fan.

588

Uptown Bombers
Donor
ID: 35616416
Mon, Nov 13, 2006, 16:56

My "sources" tell me that $85 mil was the winning bid on Daisuke Matsuzaka. :-)

589

Matt G
ID: 81052212
Fri, Nov 17, 2006, 11:15

Does my rating of a 1 carry more weight now that I am a donor?

;-)

Worst thread EVER, hilarious though!

590

KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 15023167
Fri, Nov 17, 2006, 11:54

Forget buying the perfect team. Use that money to buy a Playstation 3.

591

mrbig
ID: 363331312
Mon, Apr 16, 2007, 16:11

First BUTT of 2007!

I haven't visted these boards in over a year so I figured I should bring the classic back to the top. I believe the thread is almost 6 years old now!

I can say one thing with confidence - $85 million IS NOT the magic number for Rotohog or Dice-K.

However, it MIGHT be the magic number for Zambrano!

592

Matt G
ID: 81052212
Tue, Apr 17, 2007, 08:41

This thread kills me.

593

D'aliso
ID: 533471721
Tue, Apr 17, 2007, 23:49

BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

594

Go Easy
ID: 24027919
Wed, Apr 25, 2007, 12:25

Whatever happened to Ira? He should be able to by beer legally by now.

595

Mötley Crüe
ID: 258441912
Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 15:02

If only the Orioles had $85 million more, they might be able to compete in the AL East. 85 that is, to have a PERFECT Team.

596

beetski
ID: 2310452513
Fri, Dec 14, 2007, 21:24

594-- I made that joke post 543---Almost 3 years ago.

597

blue hen
ID: 16322314
Tue, Dec 18, 2007, 18:06

Thanks

598

KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 15023167
Fri, Mar 14, 2008, 13:09

I tried to stop myself from posting this, but I couldn't resist.

$85 Million may buy you the perfect team, according to Ira, but $85 Million Will Buy You Nothing at the University of Wisconsin

599

The Left Wings
ID: 33311620
Wed, Apr 16, 2008, 22:14

Last time I posted in this topic was in #578... Two years and 20 posts? Hahaha.

So to answer #594, which was posted almost a year ago, Ira the Albertan kid has gotta be 20 this year. I remember he joined the hockey board when he was like 12 and he used his dad's name to win his dad a wide-screen TV or something in the CBC hockey pool or something. Damn that was a long time ago.

Judging from the viewing statistics for this thread, I see a lot of people are still checking it once in a while.

600

Mike D
Leader
ID: 041831612
Wed, Apr 16, 2008, 22:21

600.

601

mrbig
ID: 33351715
Fri, Apr 18, 2008, 17:45

Just trying to up my coolness factor for Motley Crue (see posts 453 and 456). As someone who read this post the day it was written, I smile every time it comes back.

I also feel old when I think back to how young I was when Ira made the post!

602

Sandlot
ID: 374171010
Sun, May 10, 2009, 11:29

Almost four years since I've posted in this thread. I was remembering the generator and couldn't resist resurrecting this thing. Apologies to all.

603

Mötley Crüe
ID: 26382717
Thu, Jun 18, 2009, 21:15

After recent calculations, I have figured out
that $134 billion is when to stop $$ making & Go for
WWR 85 that is, to have a PERFECT Team

604

blue hen
ID: 8115717
Fri, Jun 19, 2009, 00:01

On July 16, this thread will be 3000 days old. That's old. There have been 604 posts and 1721 ratings and 1254 views from 617 users. Well, that's not entirely true - the views are since March, 2007, when this thread was almost 6 years old. I'd guess we're near 10,000 views. When it started, ARod was playing his first games for the Rangers and the Mets were the defending NL champs. And Mark McGwire was the all-time home run champ.

605

Khahan
ID: 391582715
Fri, Jun 19, 2009, 16:15

Apri 29, 2003 in baseball:

First time Ichiro and Godzilla played against each other in MLB

First time Dusty Baker managed against the Giants after leaving them (note: Sammy vs Bonds match up with Kerry Wood on the mound for Chi)

And on April 29 17 years prior to this Roger Clemens struck out 20 Seattle Mariners for the Red Sox.

April 29, the original date of this thread is possibly one of the most important days in baseball (and fantasy) history!

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Mötley Crüe
ID: 6028177
Wed, Mar 10, 2010, 18:35

April 29th is the birthday of Luis Aparicio, Bernie Madoff, Dale Earnhardt, Jerry Seinfeld, Master P, Andre Agassi, Tony Armas, Jr., Jay Cutler, and Barbaro.

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Great One
ID: 26234311
Thu, Mar 11, 2010, 11:56

What year was this thread originally?

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holt
ID: 11272514
Fri, Mar 12, 2010, 11:09

I'd have to do some calculations to figure that out.

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Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Mar 12, 2010, 11:11

2001. Only a year until its 10th anniversary.

611

C1-NRB
ID: 2911103011
Fri, Mar 12, 2010, 11:45

I saw this the other day looking for something else. I almost resurrected it then.

612

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Fri, Mar 12, 2010, 11:57

Additional birthdays-William Randolph Hearst, Emperor Hirohito and Eve Plumb.

April 29, 1975-US pulled out of Viet Nam.

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Mötley Crüe
ID: 6028177
Fri, Mar 12, 2010, 18:41

Eve Plumb. Sweet.

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biliruben
ID: 461142511
Fri, Mar 12, 2010, 19:10

My sister.

No, not Eve Plumb.

April 29th.

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Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Fri, Mar 12, 2010, 20:09

In the current TV show Flash Forward, the date they flash forward to is April 29, 2010.

616

Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Sat, Mar 13, 2010, 06:29

So, I just read there'll be no more TSN baseball.

I guess you can now pick the perfect fantasy team with only $0 million. That is, to have a PERFECT Team.

617

C1-NRB
ID: 2911103011
Tue, Apr 13, 2010, 15:30

In honor of Today's Blurb.

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Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Apr 13, 2010, 15:57

Only about 4-5 more days until we've all reached PERFECTION!

How great is that?!

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Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Thu, Apr 29, 2010, 18:49

Happy Anniversary, Ira.

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mrbig
ID: 21549914
Wed, Jun 09, 2010, 15:55

I need to chime in on this thing every few years just to remember the good times. And to remember that I used to be quite young when this thread originated, but am not so young any more. This thread started before 9/11!

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Mötley Crüe
ID: 108312919
Sun, Feb 06, 2011, 11:57

Vlad Guerrero to the Orioles for 2011

This transaction likely bumps the Orioles' payroll over... [wait for it...] $85M.

Glad to know they have what it takes to be the perfect team in `11. I'll ice the champagne, you go ahead and schedule the tattoo session.

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Khahan
ID: 373143013
Mon, Feb 07, 2011, 16:26

Do we need to adjust $85 mil for inflation? Its been at least 11 years.

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Mötley Crüe
ID: 108312919
Sun, Apr 17, 2011, 11:26

Crap, guess I forgot to take that into account. Thus, the O's current 6-game losing streak.

Dammit.

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Mötley Crüe
ID: 54223520
Mon, Mar 05, 2012, 21:23

*/witty*

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Matt G
ID: 511202821
Tue, Mar 06, 2012, 11:09

I believe the amount should be updated to $108,845,621.47

this according to the inflation rate change over the last 11 years.

626

Mötley Crüe
ID: 40422288
Mon, May 28, 2012, 09:22

Adam Jones, son.

627

I_AM_CANADIAN
Sustainer
ID: 01361448
Thu, Sep 19, 2013, 09:19

bump, just because

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¤ Mario LeMoose ¤
ID: 578271818
Mon, Sep 18, 2017, 20:07

Bump, for the honeymooners.
;-)

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loki
ID: 15046816
Fri, Sep 22, 2017, 19:35

Need a refresher.
Who is Ira?
Wistfully remembering SW Sports.

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holt
ID: 491153264
Fri, Jul 17, 2020, 01:58

After recent calculations, I have figured out
that we are only 286 days til the 20th anniversary of this thread.

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Khahan
ID: 551581418
Fri, Jul 17, 2020, 22:59

Since we're only playing 37% of the season does that mean we only need 31.45 mil?

And how the hell did this thread get to be nearly 20 years old? How have we been around that long?

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MattG
ID: 59422298
Sat, Jul 18, 2020, 10:54

I feel old now. I think I might need $85 million to retire.

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darkside
ID: 66451321
Sat, Jul 18, 2020, 20:27

I haven’t thought about Ira or this thread for years. Thanks for the bump. SW was fun.

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