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Subject: RIFC Playoff Discussion


  Posted by: Sludge - [571125720] Sun, Dec 12, 2004, 19:41

Well, I'm not getting my hopes up too high, but live scoring gives me a 4 point lead with only one of my defensive players left to play. Hope it holds up.
 
1Sludge
      ID: 571125720
      Sun, Dec 12, 2004, 20:51
Great. Now it's down to 2.72 points. The games are over, and I'm still scoreboard watching.
 
2Ender
      ID: 391134322
      Mon, Dec 13, 2004, 00:00
It looks to me like the top 3 teams will all be eliminated this week.
 
3Sludge
      ID: 571125720
      Mon, Dec 13, 2004, 00:06
If so, that rules out any "wild cards" being invited back next year. That would fix the count at 7 (top 4 regular season plus the three upsets).
 
4Ender
      ID: 391134322
      Mon, Dec 13, 2004, 00:18
In a sudden turn of events, I have taken the lead on MC by the narrowest of margins, 0.22. If Kearse had sacked Ramsey in the endzone on that last play by the 'Skins it would have been HUGE.

Derrick Brooks sold me out today. He was huge last week and I figured he would have plenty of opportunities to tackle LT today and maybe even cover Gates, but he totally bombed, meanwhile Farrior whom I benched blew up for 11.5 pts which would have given me a healthy cushion going into tomorrow night. I won't torture myself by second guessing an IDP call, but it certainly does stink.

I just need Kennison to take the collar tomorrow night and I'll be fine...
 
5Ender
      ID: 391134322
      Mon, Dec 13, 2004, 00:20
I'll add this, Kearse deflected another pass early in the game and it hasn't been credited to him. If it does then I'll have a still small, but slightly bigger lead. We'll see what the score reads tomorrow AM.
 
6Sludge
      ID: 571125720
      Mon, Dec 13, 2004, 00:25
Oops. It appears that I created a duplicate RIFC Playoff thread; Taxman beating me by over 7 hours. I looked for one before creating this one, but don't know how I could have missed it.
 
7Perm Dude
      Dude
      ID: 030792616
      Mon, Dec 13, 2004, 00:48
Looks like Hasselback pulled through for me again this week. Another couple of games like that and the Toilet Bowl is all mine!
 
8GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 060151121
      Mon, Dec 13, 2004, 09:05
And they are still muttering about McNair playing tonite.
Can just hope now that it is Volek and he has a great game against the lousy KC D.

Cliff
 
9Motley Crue
      Leader
      ID: 439372011
      Mon, Dec 13, 2004, 09:11
Ender,

.22 points: what's that, A catch for 3 yards? I suppose that's not a given, but it's close.

What a miserable showing by our respective teams. Especially considering the way I roared into the playoffs, 100 points is slightly disappointing. I, too, left plenty of points on the bench, led by Nick Barnett, Maurice Hicks, and Coles. You'd think by this stage of the game, we would all be picking our lineups a little better.
 
10Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Dec 13, 2004, 09:26
Todd Heap finally has a game worthy of a high draft pick. About time, after consuming a bench spot almost all season.

144 points is my best weekly result of the entire season. Good time for it, I guess... although I might wish a few had been postponed until next week. Even more surprising is that Daunte Culpepper had a below average game. It's not surprising that Culpepper was below average per se - only that I could have my best week of the year without him putting up big numbers.)

I shouldn't count my chickens yet, as Challenger still has Chris Brown and Erron Kinney. It would take an amazing effort - but it's not mathematically impossible.

I can certainly empathize with Challenger. Last year, in a league hosted by Taxman, I steamrolled to the regular season title with only one loss (and that loss was on a week when I had the second highest point total for the week). Then, in the first playoff week, the wheels fell off. What a bummer...
 
11Ender
      Donor
      ID: 013443221
      Mon, Dec 13, 2004, 11:32
The only way I'd feel bad about my lineup is if Blaylock significantly outperforms Martin. I didn't like Martin's matchup, but Larry Johnson scared me away from Blaylock. My decision to start Brooks over Farrior was based on logic and it just didn't pan out. Choosing between IDP's can be a real crapshoot.

Yeah, Kennison, 1 catch for 3 yards would do it. Of course he could catch a 4 yd pass and then fumble it :) Or maybe he'll up and retire again...

The real problem was Bulger's injury last week. Even if I should happen to win this week you can pretty much bank on Dallas starting Henson the rest of the way and then I would have no QB at all next week.
 
12Taxman
      SuperDude
      ID: 029463114
      Mon, Dec 13, 2004, 16:12
From the other play off thread..thought the congrats to the Guru, Sludge and

Best seed for the Champeenship tournament was to be not 1, 2, 3 or 4.

Congrats to Sludge who took me out by virtue of a pissed off Texans defense that shut down Indy as well as anyone has all year. And to the Guru, who has a commanding lead on Challenger.

It's been a good time, that's for sure.
 
13Taxman
      SuperDude
      ID: 029463114
      Mon, Dec 13, 2004, 16:26
Might be a bit premature on the call for seeds 3 & 4.

And Dave, although I didn't dominate the league as you did last year, the "1 'n out" has left me with an empty feeling. Kinda like I walked away and left money on the table. I imagine Challanger must feel the same pain.


"It's really great when it's going good, and not so great when it ain't."

(quote from my ex-wife's divorce lawyer to my lawyer...spoken just after my then 11 year old son (now 34) told the judge in chambers that my ex's best friend called me an SOB. Hearing this, my ex's divorce lawyer put the woman on the stand and asked her if she had indeed called me an SOB. She denied doing so. Next question he asked her was "Do you think he is an SOB?" No answer was required.
 
14Motley Crue
      ID: 181650
      Mon, Dec 13, 2004, 17:25
Well, Ender, you magically gained some points since this morning, while I lost a fraction of a point. You now hold a commanding 100.60 to 98.48 lead. 2.12 points. So Kennison needs 22 yards. Watch this be the night he doesn't get it.
 
15Sludge
      ID: 54692111
      Mon, Dec 13, 2004, 17:45
My advice to both of you:

Don't watch the game. Do something else.

Last week in another league, I needed Alexander to score 3 or fewer points to advance to the playoffs. I didn't have a prayer, I knew, but that never stops me from hoping that somehow, some way, the same thing that always seems to happen to me would happen FOR me this time.

Fumble... -3 points. 1 point per 10 yards, but they don't start counting until after 50 yards. He was under 50 yards with a fumble lost going into the 4th quarter. It's like it was dangled in front of my face for 3 quarters of the game... AGH! (It could be worse. He could have gotten exactly 70 yards rushing. Then again, my loss allowed my wife to sneak into the playoffs ahead of me...)
 
16Motley Crue
      ID: 181650
      Mon, Dec 13, 2004, 17:49
Ha! Sludge, I watched that game. I led my opponent by 22 and Alexander wound up with 20 points based on that performance. The fumble (-2) saved me from a tie.

I hate to say it, but I fully expect Kennison to have a good if not great game against Tennessee. Maybe that isn't exactly PC in this polite league (face it, we've been congenial as heck all season), but I am relishing my run because of the wild comeback I am in the midst of.

 
17GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 060151121
      Mon, Dec 13, 2004, 18:14
Don't know whether to watch or not.

13.74 points behind.

Volek / McNair & Bennett

VS.

Mason
Gonzo
Bulluck

We shall see

Should have played Boller and Galloway

Cliff
 
18Sludge
      ID: 571125720
      Mon, Dec 13, 2004, 19:27
Maybe that isn't exactly PC in this polite league (face it, we've been congenial as heck all season), but I am relishing my run because of the wild comeback I am in the midst of.

I don't think it's that we're necessarily congenial. Rather, I think we're all well aware of the extent to which luck plays a part in fantasy games, fantasy football in particular. There are margins to exploit, sure, but they aren't so large that we can really brag about our success and claim that "It was me, baby! ALL me! Suck it!" Well... we could do it, but we're all in on the secret, so what would be the point?
 
19Sludge
      ID: 571125720
      Mon, Dec 13, 2004, 21:59
I think a 58 yard TD pretty much wraps it up.
 
20Ender
      ID: 391134322
      Tue, Dec 14, 2004, 08:13
Hardly watched it. Monday is Discovery Channel night at my house. American Chopper was a rerun, but Monster House was new :)

Congrats, MC. Good luck the rest of the way.
 
21Motley Crue
      Leader
      ID: 439372011
      Tue, Dec 14, 2004, 08:53
Thanks, Ender.

 
22Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Dec 14, 2004, 09:39
TB had the best point total for a losing team in the Consolation bracket, so he survives. Second round matchups are PD vs TB, and deepsnapper vs cEHp.
 
23Motley Crue
      Leader
      ID: 439372011
      Tue, Dec 14, 2004, 15:46
Hey, Sludge.

You ready for a third crack at my team? The revenge factor should play in this week.

If form holds from last week, the 2 lowest seeds (sludge and Guru) will knock out the 2 highest (GoatLocker and me). That would be amazing, if the 2 "Points Wildcard" teams made the final.

Guru, have you won any of your Invitationals yet?
 
24Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Dec 14, 2004, 15:55
Nope. This is already the best I've done - in what I'd consider my weakest fantasy sport. Go figure.
 
25Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Dec 14, 2004, 15:56
I actually figure that Goatlocker will win it all, after skipping his first 2 picks in the draft.
 
26Motley Crue
      Leader
      ID: 439372011
      Tue, Dec 14, 2004, 16:03
Yes, that would seem to fit the pattern this season.

I was just looking at last night's GoatLocker explosion: almost 80 points derived from that little game of pitch-and-catch Volek and Bennett were playing. Good time to cash in on it. I pretty much had legge penciled in for the win on that one.
 
27Sludge
      ID: 54692111
      Tue, Dec 14, 2004, 16:04
Watch out MC. My WR have been coming on strong lately. If my year-long workhorses (Farve and my RB corps) get back to form and the WR don't return to form, then I should score well this week.

Too bad most of my players are going up against better than average defenses.
 
28Sludge
      ID: 54692111
      Tue, Dec 14, 2004, 16:05
And what was Tax Return's win over me written in? Sharpie?
 
29Sludge
      ID: 54692111
      Tue, Dec 14, 2004, 16:06
Err... guess I should refer to him as Taxman here.
 
30GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 060151121
      Tue, Dec 14, 2004, 16:15
Was waiting for somebody to bring that up.
Lot of luck with the other players that I picked up.

Football is much more a guess than other sports as somebody else already said.

The amazing thing is looking at the first 10 rounds of the draft and realizing that I lost five of the ten for the majority of the season.

McNair
Garner
Winslow
Calico
Arrington

Thank goodness I picked up Bennett as a back up to Calico.

One week at a time right now.

Cliff
 
31Motley Crue
      Leader
      ID: 439372011
      Tue, Dec 14, 2004, 16:33
Bennett found something none of us knew he had these last 2 weeks. He's been a monster. He's moved into the Top 10 in WR scoring in one of my leagues.

I love Volek. He's always been a serviceable fantasy back-up. I wonder if he'll get the chance to start at QB for a whole season next year. I sort of doubt the McNair retirement talk, but you never know.
 
32leggestand
      ID: 56811718
      Tue, Dec 14, 2004, 23:53
Just got back from a business trip...
I can't believe Volek/Benett, that was not the combo that I thought would knock me out. I thought that once I let go of the Chiefs defense that they couldn't cost me any more games, and I guess I was wrong. Good win GL, and good luck the rest of the way.
 
33Taxman
      SuperDude
      ID: 029463114
      Wed, Dec 15, 2004, 00:32
we're all well aware of the extent to which luck plays a part in fantasy games, fantasy football in particular

Eloquently stated Sludge. (but I think luck had little to do with last week...just the normal "on any given Sunday")

After first round of playoffs, seeds 1, 2, 3, 4 and 14 are on the sidelines in the two tournaments. Teams facing each other this week in championship match scored within 1 point of each other last week.
 
34Challenger
      Donor
      ID: 481126818
      Wed, Dec 15, 2004, 19:38
I haven't been unable to spend much time online the last couple of weeks, bed ridden with back spasms. Anyway......


Congrats to Guru on your easy win. All thru last week I was thinking about your loss last year after dominating and hoping it was not gonna happen to me. I was so looking forward to meeting GoatLocker and avenging my losses to him in the regular season. I was NOT looking forwarded to the possibility of meeting legge. All for not.

And Congrats to the rest of the 1st round winners and good luck for the rest of the playoffs, especially Guru - some solacement to lose to the winner ;>)

Odd thing is the top 4 teams of the regular season aren't good enough for the Toilet Bowl!

 
35Taxman
      SuperDude
      ID: 029463114
      Fri, Dec 17, 2004, 22:57
Sorry to hear about back...usualy it's a strong back that goes with the weak mind ;>)

Congrats on your regular season trouncing of the managers in the RIFC league. I share your emptiness watching and not participating in the 2nd round.
 
36GoatLocker
      ID: 427272213
      Fri, Dec 17, 2004, 23:34
Challenger,
Take care of that back.
I was also looking forward to making it 3 in a row.

Will be another crazy week, wish Tenn would just make up their minds and bench McNair for the rest of the season.

Sure would make things easier.

Cliff
 
37loki
      ID: 01159186
      Sat, Dec 18, 2004, 08:13
Guru-In inviting teams for RIFC 2005 would you consider including the winner of a qualifying league division as well as the winner of its playoffs? This would compensate for a top team being eliminated with a fluke game, i.e., for "the brutality of the playoffs." I would not be affected by this as I finished 6th in my division and have been eliminated from the playoffs. I hope that I have not offended anyone by posting in your forum, but I thought that this was the best place to put it.
 
38Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sat, Dec 18, 2004, 08:19
Seems like a reasonable approach. I'll wait until all seasons are over befre making any determinations, however.
 
39deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 017103420
      Sat, Dec 18, 2004, 10:57
Challenger - sorry to hear about the back. My wife has a congenital spine condition & temds to overdo it this time of year. hydrocodone & flexeril combined with bedrest is about all that helps her back on her feet.

Donny - Eloquently stated Sludge wasn't something I'd ever expected to read describing anything James'd written. (;-Þ)

Props to everyone that made the playoffs. I'm slowly improving from having both eyes and one foot cut on. I think I can see better with my left foot though. ;)
 
40Sludge
      ID: 436563018
      Sat, Dec 18, 2004, 20:10
What? You sayin' that I ain't eloquent?
 
41deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 017103420
      Sun, Dec 19, 2004, 16:54
James, you deepfry turkeys, suck the heads off crayfish, live in Lubbock where it's either 110 degrees, raining mud, or snowing sideways and your nickname is Sludge. Merry Christmas (call me). (;-Þ)

 
42Taxman
      SuperDude
      ID: 029463114
      Sun, Dec 19, 2004, 17:41
Sludge...

Motley Crue jumped my bannanas after the draft for making disparaging remarks about him drafting Barlow in 1st round. Well today you felt the wrath of Barlow as MC storms to the RIFC Champeenship match. Congrats on your season (tied for 3rd and a return invite isn't fruit cake)..a really bad week for both your RB's and WR's to turn toes up. Unless Donte' has a remarkable 2nd half, you may not break 20 points combined at RB & WR.

MC..dude..to the finals. Atta boy!
 
43GoatLocker
      ID: 427272213
      Sun, Dec 19, 2004, 18:01
Let's see if I can ride Volek and Bennett to that final game also.

Would only be fitting since MC and I are both out of the playoffs in his Exit 42 League.

Cliff
 
44Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Dec 19, 2004, 19:44
If I hadn't left Dante Hall and Lee Suggs on the bench today, I'd be in reasonably good shape right now. No second guessing, though. Dante seemed like the clear 4th choice behind Holt, Wayne, and Branch, and Suggs was coming back from an injury and expected to split time today.

Instead, I'll need decent performances from Sams, Heap, Wayne, and Stover tonight. If they can get me close, then it comes down to Deion Branch vs. Teddy Bruschi tomorrow night.

All for the honor of facing the Motley Crue buzz saw next weekend!
 
45Motley Crue
      ID: 181650
      Sun, Dec 19, 2004, 20:33
I have never been able to resist the allure of bananas. There's just something about them.
 
46Sludge
      ID: 24113173
      Sun, Dec 19, 2004, 23:24
Well today you felt the wrath of Barlow as MC storms to the RIFC Champeenship match.

Ummm... no I didn't... I haven't felt any wrath whatsoever. I honestly haven't even paid any attention to it until just now. Too busy visiting all day, and I was comfortable knowing that I already won my championship game last week.
 
47Sludge
      ID: 24113173
      Sun, Dec 19, 2004, 23:30
And I would point out that my RB and WR did break 20 points combined. All I need from McMichael is 83.18 points (as of this minute) tomorrow night. So I guess I'm not mathematically eliminated yet, right?
 
48Sludge
      ID: 24113173
      Sun, Dec 19, 2004, 23:33
They just sacked Boller. Make that 84.18 points. Now I think I'm mathematically eliminated. That one point made all the difference.
 
49Motley Crue
      ID: 181650
      Mon, Dec 20, 2004, 07:27
127.74 to 127.84? You have got to be kidding me!

Branch vs. Bruschi for the ticket to the RIFC Super Bowl. What a matchup. I'd say the tale of the tape favors Bruschi. Too bad they aren't fighting.

Sludge, I haven't felt bad winning any week but this one. You are a worthy opponent whom I personally enjoy having around this thread. I'll be rooting for you in the 3rd place Bowl, man.
 
50GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 060151121
      Mon, Dec 20, 2004, 08:52
Couldn't be any closer.
No adjustment over nite.
Stayed the same.

Cliff
 
51Sludge
      ID: 24113173
      Mon, Dec 20, 2004, 18:02
Thanks for the kind words, MC.

I guess I'll save my recollections for the retrospective thread. I almost got started writing it right now to get it out of the way, but my wife is hurrying me out the door. Going to go eat some good seafood (mmmmm... frog legs... you forgot that one, deep) and do some Christmas shopping (blech).
 
52Taxman
      SuperDude
      ID: 029463114
      Mon, Dec 20, 2004, 20:10
Congrats on your season (tied for 3rd and a return invite isn't fruit cake)..a really bad week for both your RB's and WR's to turn toes up.

Sorry that Sludge didn't take my post in a more positive way. I will again post..."Congrats on your (Sludge) season"..and yes, I did notice that it was a week longer than mine. It is not demeaning to lose against a score like the one MC posted this week (only the 3rd or 4th time the 160's has been achieved this season...MC hung a 163 on me in week 13 right after the week 12 157 from Ender...sigh)
 
53Perm Dude
      Dude
      ID: 030792616
      Mon, Dec 20, 2004, 23:26
Hey, I'm in the Toilet Bowl Championship game!
 
54Sludge
      ID: 24113173
      Tue, Dec 21, 2004, 01:01
Taxman... I took it how it was intended. In good humor. I don't get worked up about my fantasy football wins and losses like I once did oh-so-long-ago (3 years ago, actually). Decided it wasn't worth the hassle. I didn't take it in a bad way. I thought the self-deprecating humor in my post was self-evident.
 
55GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 060151121
      Tue, Dec 21, 2004, 08:59
Guess I only needed one more tackle by Bruschi.
Oh well, there is always next year.
BOL to Guru and MC in the Super Bowl.

Cliff
 
56Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Dec 21, 2004, 09:15
A game of inches! 131.12-130.28

We both wasted some serious points on our benches as well. If we had each started our best lineup, I'd have lost 172-151.

On to Motley Crue!
 
57Challenger
      Donor
      ID: 481126818
      Tue, Dec 21, 2004, 09:25
Cliff, I'd blame the loss on the missed PAT, bad snap.

On another note, sure glad my team didn't qualify for the Toilet Bowl. IT WOULD HAVE STUNK IT UP!
 
58leggestand
      Leader
      ID: 451036518
      Tue, Dec 21, 2004, 09:46
Challenger, good catch. That is crazy that the missed extra point essentially cost Goatlocker the game. And then the Eagles scored so late that they went for 2 instead of kicking another extra point. That is some bad luck Goatlocker...

Good luck to MC and Guru in the Super Bowl...hopefully Holt and Porter will be huge for you guys and then you can give me a SB ring for helping you out.
 
59Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Dec 21, 2004, 10:24
If I'd have lost, I was going to blame it on Matt Stover, who missed a 31 yard FG attempt by kicking it into the back of the helmet of one of his own linemen.
 
60taxman
      ID: 121114209
      Tue, Dec 21, 2004, 10:28
Cliff...Dave

A very entertaining match. I think it is easier to stomach when blown out of a match, than ousted by a single catch or tackle, made or missed. I miss the poetic justice had Cliff made it to the finals after missing the early stages of the RIFC draft. Great season Cliff and to Dave...atta boy.

Cliff did suffer a dandy consolation prize by taking out the top seed in the Golden Member Tournament from the 8th seed position. If that leagues copies this, Cliff should survive to the finals as did MC. Unfortunately, I think I get Cliff this week in that tournament.

And how about PD and Canadian Pride. Both with solid wins. TB suffered a timing problem as his score in week 15 would have won his week 14 match allowing him to miss PD and win the other bracket in week 15.

Leaves us with two entertaining matches for week 16.
 
61Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Dec 21, 2004, 10:36
Looking ahead...

Culpepper plays on Friday, so I guess I'll post the first score. Collins plays the first game on Saturday, so our QBs will both be done before most other players start. (I'm assuming Collins will start over Pennington.)

I'll have to decide on Suggs vs. Sams. Sams has been pretty consistent, but it seems like I should go with Suggs if he's healthy. Cleveland plays on Sunday night.

And if there's still any doubt, Holt doesn't play until Monday night.

So, unless there's a blowout, this game could be a long, drawn out affair, spanning more than 80 hours.
 
62taxman
      ID: 121114209
      Tue, Dec 21, 2004, 10:45
I am beginning to see a pattern here.

Well it looks official... the 7th and 8th seeded teams are going to the finals to fight it out

from post 209


RQFL #1
 
63Ender
      ID: 391134322
      Tue, Dec 21, 2004, 10:53
In the spirit of cheering for the team that took you out: Congrats again, MC and best of luck.

Or is that biting the hand that invited you?

I'd wish you both good luck, but that just seems silly. One of you is going to lose, right? What's the point? ;)
 
64Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Dec 21, 2004, 10:53
I guess last night's game was truly a "Cliff-hanger"
 
65leggestand
      Leader
      ID: 451036518
      Tue, Dec 21, 2004, 11:05
Re: 62

Must be due to the waiver system!
 
66Perm Dude
      Dude
      ID: 030792616
      Tue, Dec 21, 2004, 11:06
I believe the correct term is now "welfare system."

:)
 
67GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 060151121
      Tue, Dec 21, 2004, 12:43
Welfare - Smelfare.

I would rather take a good ol a**-whippin than lose like I did.

Funny thing is, I had thought about sitting TO and then thought - can't do that, it's TO.

Oh well, that's the way the ball bounces.

Best of Luck to Guru and MC.
But, following the thread, I'm rootin for Guru.

Tax,
Couldn't believe that win in Golden. And yes, you are right, I get you this week.
Fun, fun, fun.

Cliff
 
68Motley Crue
      Leader
      ID: 439372011
      Tue, Dec 21, 2004, 14:09
I thought about starting Pennington for a minute this morning, but I don't know how I can NOT use Collins, who has gotten me where I am.

Remember how inconsistent he was in New York for 4 years? Even when he was good, he was never this good. I really think alot of it has to do with the weak defenses he's played lately.

I am more concerned about the McGahee situation. I'd hate to have to start Barlow again this week. McGahee has carried me as much as anyone, and I hope he is able to go this weekend. Not that any large chunk of my points have come from the RB position, anyway. In fact, I've succeeded despite the position.

I was surprised to see that you are toting around the Vikings 25th ranked fantasy defense, Guru. I'm sort of surprised that you didn't scoop up another defense to play before the Playoffs started.

The number 6 seed vs. the number 8 seed: that's certainly unexpected. It should be a good game. Well, I hope it's a good game. I'd hate to come this far and get blown out. I'm very excited to see what happens.
 
69Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Dec 21, 2004, 15:52
I had Minnesota for weeks 13 (Chicago) and 15 (Detroit). I had Dallas for weeks 14 (N.O.) and 16 (Wash). Take a look at the team defenses that are still available. Which higher ranked defense would you suggest I should have taken? Houston at Jax? Saints vs. Atlanta?

Cowboys at home vs Wash. should be as good as any of the alternatives. Dallas has been better the last few weeks than their season average would suggest. And if I had picked up a third defense, I'd be even more likely to pick the wrong one this week!
 
70Motley Crue
      Leader
      ID: 439372011
      Tue, Dec 21, 2004, 16:58
OK, I didn't look at your bench. At least you have a choice.

Higher ranked? No. Maybe better matchup. New Orleans could have a decent game if Atlanta benches their starters, as I have seen indicated in several places. Of course, that would have required some clairvoyance on your part.

Looking at the crud that's left, I suppose it's sort of an exercise in futility.
 
71Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Dec 21, 2004, 23:26
I'm sort of surprised that you didn't scoop up another defense to play before the Playoffs started.

...OK, I didn't look at your bench.

Not to belabor the point, but if you didn't look at my bench, why did you call me out for not picking up another defense? Were you just blindly assuming that I'm an idiot? (Perhaps with good reason...)

Regardless, I did look at all of the teams and upcoming matchups that were available before the week 13 freeze. I didn't see any matchups that looked like they were more attractive than what I had.
 
72Motley Crue
      Leader
      ID: 439372011
      Wed, Dec 22, 2004, 09:15
OK, now I'll belabor: I saw the rankings of all of your players were fairly high, all things considered. Then I saw the Vikings defense, ranked 25 out of 32, and noted that discrepancy. Then, a while later I was doing a stream of consciousness post (#68), and the question flowed from my fingers.

I know you aren't an idiot. I was kind of surprised to see one bad player starting amongst all of the good ones. I suppose it's similar to me starting Coles. That will be the last time for that, though.

I'll admit I overestimated what would be left on the free agent list. With 14 teams in this league, any team worth playing weekly is surely not available. I didn't think of it that way. No offense intended.
 
73Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Dec 22, 2004, 10:15
No prob. It kind of stuck in my craw when you disparaged my lack of a backup defense without even looking to see if I had one! I'm over it now.

I actually went through most of the season with Tennessee as my primary defense. They were OK for awhile, but average at best. I hated their late season matchups, so I dumped them heading into the playoffs. I did have the Bears at one point, but swapped them to legge. Although they are ranked much higher, they've been weaker in the playoffs than the defenses I kept.

The Vikes got me a 7 and an 8 the two weeks I played them. The 'Boys only got 6 (vs. N.O., when they fell apart in the 2nd half). Unfortunately, when I pencilled them in as my week 16 team (not really expecting to still be alive this week!), it was before Ramsey had done anything even remote respectable. Lately, the Skins have looked better offensively, so that matchup doesn't look as good now as it did three weeks ago. But I'm not second guessing my defenses. Can't have everything. I'm not looking to my defenses to be the difference makers. I just hope they can stay out of red numbers.

Here's hoping for a big offensive game from San Diego!
 
74Motley Crue
      Leader
      ID: 439372011
      Wed, Dec 22, 2004, 10:27
That's been the great thing about Indy's defense: the offense usually scores so much that the other team's offense is pressured to keep up and they make mistakes. San Diego is unlike any team the Colts have played in a while, though. They have a very balanced offensive attack (despite throwing 8 times and running 50 last week!), AND a very good defense. I would be worried if my starting QB was Manning this week.
 
75taxman
      ID: 121114209
      Thu, Dec 23, 2004, 18:23
I wish I was worried about his start this week (Sludge was able to put my mind at ease).

# 67 Hope another "Cliff-hanger' occurs in Golden Member semi-finals. If not, there could be 'Cliff-anger"
 
76GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 060151121
      Thu, Dec 23, 2004, 19:12
Naw, not worth getting angry about, but still looking to see if I can't pull off another upset and roll on to the Finals.
Good time of the year to get hot.

Cliff
 
77Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Fri, Dec 24, 2004, 07:59
Potential roster change alert:

Both of my tight ends (Heap, Pollard) are currently listed as questionable. It sounds like Heap will still play, but if you see a late roster switch, you'll know why. According to our playoff rules, TE is one of the positions that allows for such a substitution.

Technically, I can't drop Heap, because he was already listed as Q for week 13 when playoff rosters were frozen. But Pollard is eligible to be dropped. I can't bear to study at the riffraff left on the F/A list, however, so I'm going to defer on the assumption that Heap will be OK.

I did take a quick peek and noted that Troupe was available, and might have been my backup. However, Tennessee plays on Saturday, a day before Baltimore. And I don't want to bench Heap prematurely, for obvious reasons.

 
78Sludge
      ID: 24113173
      Sun, Dec 26, 2004, 00:29
*sigh*

I need 4 points to surpass last week's total, and only 4 of my players have suited up. Why no runner up game?
 
79Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Dec 26, 2004, 08:27
I didn't see anyplace to code in a runner-up game. I guess we could have simply done one informally, since the scorekeeping is still being done for teams without matchups.
 
80Motley Crue
      ID: 181650
      Sun, Dec 26, 2004, 09:59
Well, several of my usual studs have gone and none of them performed up to that standard. Could the winning streak come to an end this week?

Go Colts and Gates!
 
81Perm Dude
      Dude
      ID: 030792616
      Sun, Dec 26, 2004, 18:09
I'm getting a freaking heart attack every time I look at the scores. I've got to just stay offline for awhile.
 
82Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Dec 26, 2004, 21:00
The fat lady's geting warmed up...
 
83Motley Crue
      ID: 181650
      Sun, Dec 26, 2004, 21:03
Yes, I was looking at the Dolphins-Browns game online and the next thing I know, there's a big orange stripe across the screen: Dennis Northcutt 58 yard TD.

I'm concerned with Bulger coming back that Holt may go off tomorrow night. That will be one heck of a way to end the season. Unless Suggs goes off the rest of the way. Either way, this game won't be a disappointing one--should be close.
 
84Taxman
      SuperDude
      ID: 029463114
      Tue, Dec 28, 2004, 01:31
Congrats to the deserving Champ Sludge and a big thanks to Dave for hosting/managing this event. Also of note was PD cruising to the Toilet Bowl champeenship.
 
85Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Dec 28, 2004, 09:25
Sludge may have been the "deserving champ", but my congrats go to Motley Crue, who actually won.

Fortunately, it turned into a final week blowout, so I didn't have to hang on every throw in the MNF game.
 
86TB
      ID: 59933268
      Tue, Dec 28, 2004, 09:40
Congrats on winning, Eric. Great comeback the last couple of weeks and a fine season. Congrats to you as well, Dave. I know you've said football is your weakest sport, but you couldn't prove it with the way you managed your team this year.

I don't know how many new invites will be sent out next year, but I would like to toss in the name of Mike D. He won our all-gurupie Yahoo League, Serious Biz (there is a thread in this forum). I was surprised he wasn't initially invited but it was probably because he was an original member of one of the other Invitational Leagues. He is top-notch manager and as most of you probably know, a great person to have in any league.
 
87Perm Dude
      Dude
      ID: 030792616
      Tue, Dec 28, 2004, 10:19
Thanks for the kind words, Taxman. I bungled several games early on in the season, but was able to put it together in the end despite Hasselback not playing the last game.
 
88GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 060151121
      Tue, Dec 28, 2004, 10:50
Congrats to all.
A truely great season.
Really good job Eric.
Kudos to PD also.

Is it time to draft yet.

Second the comments on Mike D.

Cliff
 
89Sludge
      ID: 241116270
      Tue, Dec 28, 2004, 12:21
Congrats to MC. Although I wish my team would have put up those kinds of points last week, it's of note that I still would have lost.
 
90Taxman
      SuperDude
      ID: 029463114
      Wed, Dec 29, 2004, 09:08
Agreeing with the Guru (and the obvious)...my post failed to recognize "actual" champ Motley Crue...whose team really turned it up a notch.

Looking back at the MC metamorphosis in the last 3 weeks of of the regular season, MC avg @ 149/gm ...during the 3 weeks prior to that, it was 109/gm. According to Fan Ball, he scored at a 141/gm clip thru the play offs. Attaboy MC


 
91Motley Crue
      Leader
      ID: 439372011
      Wed, Dec 29, 2004, 09:34
Nothing like a 12 game winning streak to finish off the season.

Thanks for all of the congratulations. I have to confess that it has always been a goal of mine to make RotoGuru's Hall of Fame, and I will be proud to go in as RIFC champ.

Congratulations to Perm Dude for his Toilet Bowl triumph.

The competition in this league was probably the best I've ever faced. The PoliBoard league last year was tougher in some ways, but the inaugural RIFC was a greater challenge overall because I truly believe every manager gave their undivided attention to it to the greatest extent possible. I know I never gave up. At 1-7 I decided that I needed to fight back and finish somewhere in the middle of the pack, at least. I wound up 6th in the standings, and that was more than I expected.

I want to acknowledge my playoff opponents, and give them some props. Ender went 17-9 and averaged 117.6 points per game. That ain't easy!
I still think that Sludge had one of the best drafts of anyone, and I was bummed when I had to play him in Week 15. I really thought his team might make it all the way. And of course the Guru himself had a powerhouse team. I actually panicked before the games started last week when I looked at his lineup and saw I was going against Culpepper, Dom Davis, Holt, Wayne, and the return man extraordinaire, Dante Hall.

I was looking at the player rankings yesterday, by position. I have my share of #1's (Gates and McGee), but I didn't win because I had an inordinate number of studs. I was lucky to get some high-level performances out of some castoffs and free agents, and virtually every position scored reasonably well for me most weeks.

Thanks to everyone for giving this league so much attention. The challenge is what we all play for, and that made this league quite fun.

Special thanks to Dave Hall for putting on the competition, and inviting me to play. Rotoguru.com has always been like an online home to me, and your new ideas for getting folks involved with the site really create a comraderie around here that is unparalleled. Keep up the great work, Guru.
 
92leggestand
      Leader
      ID: 451036518
      Wed, Dec 29, 2004, 12:00
Congrats MC and Guru! I am still in shock that seeds 1-4 were all knocked out in Round 1, as I don't know if I have ever seen that happen before.

My team choked in the playoffs and if for some reason I made the championship game, I would of put up more than 150 points. MC's team has been a model of consisitency during the postseason, and I congratulate him on his remarkable run during the second half of the season.
 
93Ender
      ID: 391134322
      Wed, Dec 29, 2004, 14:43
Congrats, MC. You are a worthy champion. I am happy for earning an automatic invite back, but really wanted to win the whole thing. I had fun the entire season and thank everyone for the competition.
 
94I_AM_CANADIAN
      ID: 2610182010
      Sat, Jan 01, 2005, 15:38
I just wanted to poke my head in and say Congradulations to Montley Crue!

Interestingly enough, we both had horrible drafts (Our fist 6 rounds worth of picks are very similar), due to both of us picking from the same spot, 12th in the draft.

And yet we both managed to manage our teams to a league championship. I look forward to seeing some of you next year in the RIFC.
 
95Sludge
      ID: 571125720
      Sat, Jan 01, 2005, 16:18
I look forward to seeing some of you next year in the RIFC.

Just some of us? :)
 
96I_AM_CANADIAN
      ID: 2610182010
      Sat, Jan 01, 2005, 18:22
Well, as far as I know; it sounded like Guru said that only 8 would probably be re-invited back. So I'm assuming that some of you won't be returning next year.

Somebodies got to get out and make room for me! (and Doug and Athletics Guy)

:)
 
97BoNkA
      ID: 225789
      Tue, Mar 08, 2005, 10:57
Has anything been said as far as to who was going to be invited for next year? I think I stood a chance of being pulled up from the qualifiers with the 2nd best record in my league but the most points scored. First place was also a guy who had teams in two leagues so his team in mine didn't count.
 
98Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Mar 08, 2005, 11:27
I haven't looked at the QL results yet. If someone could post those results (either copy them here, or provide links), I'll mull over the possibilities. I don't expect to get around to this until after baseball starts and hoops finishes, however.
 
99Doug
      ID: 57352917
      Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 04:59
For RQFL #2...

Playoffs
Doug - Winner
Bags - Runner-up
Bandos & Trip - Won first round games

Regular Season
19-7 - Bandos (2979 points, 4th highest)
18-8 - Bonka (3137 points, highest)
17-9 - Wildcats, Beezer, and Doug (2856 points, 6th highest)
16-10 - dgrooves & Trip (3009 points, 3rd highest)
11-15 - Greybear & Bags (2771 points, 8th highest)

Let me know if there's other relevant info you'd like... this shows most of the pertinent info for the 4 teams that won a playoff game plus the 1 team with the highest regular season point total (who it turns out did not win a playoff game).
 
100youngroman
      ID: 298482214
      Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 07:06
here is a RIFC QL #1 summary in excel-format

to make it short:
winner: I_AM_CANADIAN
runner-up: THK

regular season:
1. bandos (10-3, 1506.74)
2. youngroman (8-5, 1653.2 = most total points of all RIFC-leagues, and then an unspectacular loss to IAC in the first playoff round, it still hurts!)
3. WiddleAvi (8-5, 1519.88)
4. Toral (8-5, 1505.76)
5. PanchoVilla (6-5, 1416.58)
6. loki (7-6, 1447.18)
7. I_AM_CANADIAN (7-6, 1441.66)
8. THK (7-6, 1418.12)
 
101youngroman
      ID: 298482214
      Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 07:09
above link is not directly working, so you have to go here first
 
102leggestand
      Leader
      ID: 451036518
      Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 09:42
Looking back at all the leagues, I am surprised to see how lower seeds advanced to each Super Bowl:

RIFC: 6 vs 8 Super Bowl (6 winning)
*Top 4 seeds out in first round

RQFL 1: 7 vs 8 Super Bowl (7 winning)
*1 and 2 seed out first round

RQFL 2: 6 vs 8 Super Bowl (6 winning)
*2, 3, and 4 seed out first round

I think an item to be brought up for next season may be the possible implementation of "home field advantage." Unlike "real" football, in fantasy football there is no advantage to being a 3 seed instead of a 6 seed.

I don't know if I would even be for adding home field advantage points (something along the lines of 8 points for the 1 seed, 6 for the 2 seed, 4, for the 3 seed, and 2 for the 4 seed), or if it would even effect the outcome of games. But, I think it's something that can be discussed as next season gets closer.
 
103Motley Crue
      Leader
      ID: 439372011
      Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 10:53
That's an interesting thought, legge. But I think there is an inherent advantage to finishing high in the rankings, and that is that you get to play the lower ranked playoff teams early on (#1 vs #8, #2 vs #7, etc). That turned out to be an insignificant advantage this time (some might say a disadvantage). But it should even out over time.

I think the best way to ensure a significant advantage for the top finishers is to give them a first round bye. Then you have to either expand the playoffs by 2 teams (and a week--playing into Week 17: Yikes!) or else reduce the playoff field by 2, leaving out possibly deserving 7th and 8th seeds.
 
104BoNkA
      ID: 55228910
      Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 11:28
No matter what you do, it will never reflect the rest of the season. Unfortunately fantasy football playoffs are more about getting lucky or unlucky with your players. You can outpoint everyone every week during the regular season and just have that one bad or mediocre week which happens to be your first playoff game. What can you do?

Though whatever we do, it's still better than the BCS :)
 
105youngroman
      ID: 298482214
      Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 11:58
what about the idea that you start your playoff-matchups with the average score of your regular season?
this way a good team in the regular season (a team with lots of points, not lots of wins) could gain an advantage of up to 20 points for the playoffs.
 
106holt
      ID: 6227147
      Fri, Apr 01, 2005, 01:02
these were our playoff seeds in ql-3

1-athletics guy 10-3 1478
2-kev 10-3 1412
3-holt 9-4 1486
4-promize 8-5 1427
5-pops 7-6 1442
6-fugazi 7-6 1362
7-hubble 6-7 1398
8-beastiemiked 6-7 1364

athletics guy beat hubble in the super bowl.

 
107BoNkA
      ID: 53554220
      Wed, Jun 22, 2005, 01:54
Just checking again to see if anything has been mentioned of who will be invited for this coming season. Thanks.
 
108 I_AM_CANADIAN
      ID: 4111103112
      Tue, Jun 28, 2005, 18:03
Starting to get anxious too... Got no internet @ home right now though, so please send me a reminder email once were ready to go.

 
109Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Jun 28, 2005, 18:39
I figured I'll attend to this during the All Star break.
 
110Promize
      ID: 17444510
      Fri, Jul 08, 2005, 14:34
How you know what league your in this year? Think I was in #3 or something last year.
 
111Trip
      Sustainer
      ID: 13961611
      Fri, Jul 08, 2005, 15:56
In a league with 14 teams where every team has the opportunity to play every other team in the league twice, it makes no sense to invite over half of the teams into the playoffs. A six team playoff system where the 2 top performing teams receive byes seems appropriate to me.