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| Posted by: Guru
- [330592710] Wed, Aug 17, 2005, 14:01
The clock will start on Friday morning. It will initially be set at 6 hours, with a moratorium from 11pm-7am EDT. If the clock expires, the next person in line will get to draft, and the skipped drafter will make up his skipped pick whenever he can. The clock will continue to run on weekends.
People at the endpoints of the draft have only one single time limit to make their consecutive picks.
We will maintain a draft discussion thread here, but it will probably not be used extensively. If you know that you have pending time constraints, please post them in this thread. (e.g., "I'll be away until 6pm ET, so if my pick is due before then, you'll have to wait.") To the extent that you can alert everyone to potential availability issues, you can help others to plan their check-in times accordingly. That's simply good draft etiquette.
If you know you will be away when your next pick is likely to be due, you can deputize another manager to make the pick for you. There is a way to do this in the Kafenatid software. You can also always email your pick queue to me in advance. (I am automatically allowed to enter a pick for anyone, so you don't need to deputize me.) As long as you put "RIFC queue" in the subject line, I'll promise not to peek inside if I have an intervening pick. Scout's honor.
I will attempt to update picks at the Fanball site daily, so that league managers can use that site's player tools to review the available pool. Be aware, however, that Fanball updates will typically be a partial round behind the actual draft.
When drafting, there is no need to draft every position. For example, if you want to skip a kicker, be my guest. However, the Fanball software will force you to fill each of the 12 active slots when you set your lineup for each game. You will not have the ability to leave an active slot blank, so plan your bench needs accordingly.
Rationales will be expected for each pick, but deleayed by two rounds. When we near the end of round two, I will set up a thread for those.
As a final caveat, I am on vacation during the first week of the draft. I do plan to keep up, checking in several times daily. But there will be times when I might not be as available as usual.
Sludge has until Friday at 1pm EDT to make the first pick. Any picks made prior to Friday morning are discretionary, and not timed. There is no need to get an early start - but feel free to do so, if you are so inclined.
I will set up a draft tracker program that is accessible to those outside the league. A link will be posted here shortly. |
| | | 1 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Aug 17, 2005, 14:02
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Here is the draft order:
1 Sludge
2 AthleticsGuy
3 Challenger
4 Doug
5 Motley Crue
6 BoNkA
7 RotoGuru
8 Kev
9 GoatLocker
10 Taxman
11 leggestand
12 Bandos
13 Ender
14 I_AM_CANADIAN
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| | | 2 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Aug 17, 2005, 14:39
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Here is a link to the draft in progress. I hope to have a link to the draft grid as well (league managers can get to the grid through the kafenatid site, but outsiders cannot see it yet.)
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| | | 3 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Aug 17, 2005, 15:38
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Here is the link to the draft grid
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| | | 4 | Sludge
ID: 14411118
Wed, Aug 17, 2005, 16:31
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And they're off!
Not like it's much of a surprise.
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| | | 6 | Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Wed, Aug 17, 2005, 18:29
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Just FYI, I'll be around 6-7 PST (9-10 EST)... if Challenger has picked by then I'll be up with 1.04... but after that I'm gonna be gone again until probably 11pm PST.
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| | | 7 | Challenger
Donor
ID: 481126818
Wed, Aug 17, 2005, 22:21
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Pick made -
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| | | 8 | Doug
ID: 21716317
Wed, Aug 17, 2005, 22:25
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I'm heading out for the night now. It will likely be 24 hours until I make my pick, because with Priest off the board, I am heavily considering a player who plays in tomorrow night's game.
If you guessed Todd Bouman, move back 2 spaces and lose a turn.
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| | | 9 | Challenger
Donor
ID: 481126818
Wed, Aug 17, 2005, 22:35
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Now that's funny! I have been wavering on selecting Holmes ever since I selected #3 position.
Not to early to entertain trade offer(s)
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| | | 11 | I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 34743414
Wed, Aug 17, 2005, 23:33
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FYI - Since the subject of TRADES has been raised. I'm not 100% certain on this yet; but I'll be considering trading 2.01 to someone for their 2nd rounder and a couple updgrades in later rounds.
It may be an interesting option for someone who is considering going QB early?
NO unbalanced offers please. Use this site as a guide:
http://www.kffl.com/draftanalyzer/index.php
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| | | 12 | Motley Crue
Dude
ID: 439372011
Thu, Aug 18, 2005, 08:40
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Crap, I'm sitting here going "Now why hasn't Doug selected yet?" and all I had to do was stop in here and check it out.
I have a 2 man queue that I am choosing from, and I will be happy with either guy. I'm ready to rock as soon as Doug picks.
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| | | 13 | BoNkA
ID: 0743188
Thu, Aug 18, 2005, 09:43
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Yeah, I'd love to get my first pick done before I head out to school tomorrow. That way I have some time before it gets back around to me and my internet should be set up by then.
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| | | 14 | Motley Crue
Dude
ID: 439372011
Thu, Aug 18, 2005, 10:26
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Well, if you need to, just set up a 3 man queue. Doug said he won't pick until tonight. I will pick after him tonight or first thing tomorrow.
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| | | 15 | BoNkA
Donor
ID: 019742310
Thu, Aug 18, 2005, 10:59
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Yeah, I'll get the first pick done. I just won't be setting anything up for my 2nd pick. I'll just have to wait til my internet is set up or run somewhere else to hop on quick.
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| | | 16 | kev
Donor
ID: 043111845
Thu, Aug 18, 2005, 11:19
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I work days, with zero net access. If the 3 next picks go before tomorrow morning, and Guru makes his pick before 10am EST, I will be ready to make mine.
If not, I will have a que ready and sent to someone who is around during the day.
MC- wanna be my que guy? At 5th, I would have no issues with you taking my que.
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| | | 17 | leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Thu, Aug 18, 2005, 11:24
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I am around on weekdays, so, if anyone needs me on workdays, I am available.
MC, I have already added you as a queue handler for me, if that's alright.
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| | | 18 | Motley Crue
Dude
ID: 439372011
Thu, Aug 18, 2005, 11:40
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Yes, yes, yes, come one come all and give me your queues. The only slight technical problem for me is that I cannot access Kafenatid during the day. Some nasty bugger decided it should be on the naughty list here at the airfield. I am planning to draft from work via e-mail to Guru. But in the evenings and on weekends I will be around constantly.
legge, that's fine.
kev, fine, too. If you come up and your queue has a pick, I will fire off an e-mail to Guru.
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| | | 19 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Aug 18, 2005, 11:43
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MC - can you follow the draft in progress? Or would it be helpful for me to provide a way to access the draft grid and draft list which doesn't require using the kafenatid.net domain?
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| | | 20 | Motley Crue
Dude
ID: 439372011
Thu, Aug 18, 2005, 12:03
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Yes, like what you had going last year. If you could duplicate that, it would be great. I thought you already had it set up to do that, that's why I didn't specifically ask. But if you can do it, that will make things much easier for me.
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| | | 22 | Doug
ID: 21716317
Thu, Aug 18, 2005, 12:14
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I'm available most anytime for queue's as well... I work from home, so no access issues. Please be sure to include the word "queue" as well as the pick number (4.11, etc.) in the subject line.
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| | | 23 | Doug
ID: 21716317
Thu, Aug 18, 2005, 12:15
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Although, I have to admit, it's unclear to me why people wouldn't just send their queues directly to Guru...?
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| | | 24 | leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Thu, Aug 18, 2005, 13:25
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I just want to have someone as a back up. Doug, I am going to add you as a queue man, too, since you are around most times/days.
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| | | 25 | Motley Crue
Dude
ID: 439372011
Thu, Aug 18, 2005, 14:03
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Thanks, Guru. Hope vacation is nice. It's hot as Hades down here at the moment.
Mostly people don't want to hold up the train, Doug, so they send out queues to several different people. Some people know they will be online all damn day, so for them it's not really an issue.
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| | | 26 | Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Thu, Aug 18, 2005, 15:46
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Right, but I mean, we can't enter the draft picks on their behalf, can we (via Kafenatid)? I thought only Guru could do that as the commish or whatever. Or do we temporarily move the draft to the message board in that case, until Guru or the respective managers update the site?
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| | | 27 | leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Thu, Aug 18, 2005, 15:50
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Doug, you can make anyone a designated picker (I have you, Guru, and MC). When it's my turn to pick, all 3 of you will have the ability to input my choice, whether I need you guys or not.
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| | | 28 | Motley Crue
Dude
ID: 439372011
Thu, Aug 18, 2005, 15:55
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And, if I have someone elses's queue, even if I can't access the site, I can send Guru the pick via e-mail. And thanks to his little link above, I can see where we are at in the draft.
We probably should have explained this a little better since there are some new guys in this league. But it works out great. 14 interested, competitive managers and Kafenatid + Guru's tools make for a very smooth and expedited draft.
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| | | 29 | Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Thu, Aug 18, 2005, 16:05
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Ahhh... thx for the explanation. Cool functionality, didn't realize it was there! =-)
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| | | 30 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Aug 18, 2005, 17:19
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I can enter a pick for anyone, but I will only get your queue if you set me up as a designated picker, or if you email it to me directly.
BoNkA - my offer to call you when your it's your turn still stands - just send me your cell phone #.
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| | | 31 | leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Thu, Aug 18, 2005, 17:23
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I may need to give my cell phone # up as well...There are going to be a couple instances where I may be away for 12-24 hours in the next few weeks.
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| | | 32 | Athletics Guy
ID: 43525254
Thu, Aug 18, 2005, 17:27
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Anybody in the middle of the 2nd round interested in trading down? :)
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| | | 33 | Doug
ID: 49112252
Thu, Aug 18, 2005, 22:40
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I was visiting my folks for dinner this evening, but can't log on to kafenatid (I must have used a non-standard username or password for the site). I'm heading home now and will pick when I get there (about 20-30 mins).
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| | | 34 | kev
Donor
ID: 043111845
Thu, Aug 18, 2005, 22:42
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I will be around late night tonight, or early tomorrow.
Is there a need to leave a 10 man que after my pick, or should I be good until I get home. Since it is only the 2nd round, and should be an important pick, I would like to make it myself, or at least have it down to a 5 person que.
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| | | 35 | Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Thu, Aug 18, 2005, 23:02
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No need I would think, seeing as the 6 hour clock doesn't even start until the AM.
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| | | 36 | Motley Crue
Dude
ID: 439372011
Thu, Aug 18, 2005, 23:37
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Doug, let me guess. Kafenatid didn't like when you tried to pick "Deuce Mcallister"?
That's because you spelled his name wrong. If you spell the guy's name right, the program will find it in the database and pull him up for you.
By the way, I was going to take Deuce if you had taken Edge. I think McCallister is ready to make up for his last 2 sub-par years. He should be Top 5 in RB scoring this season. Great pick.
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| | | 37 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Aug 18, 2005, 23:38
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For some reason, kafenatid couldn't find Peyton Manning. I'm pretty sure I spelled it correctly - although at 11:30pm, I can't be sure of anything!
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| | | 38 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Aug 18, 2005, 23:40
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What's wrong with the spelling of Deuce McAllister?
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| | | 39 | Motley Crue
Dude
ID: 439372011
Thu, Aug 18, 2005, 23:44
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Guru, you're going with a similar strategy to last season I see. It certainly worked out for you in 2004.
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| | | 40 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Aug 18, 2005, 23:46
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yep.
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| | | 41 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Aug 18, 2005, 23:48
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And hopefully it will work out better than my pick #7 in round 1 of the RIBC: Barry Bonds
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| | | 42 | Motley Crue
Dude
ID: 439372011
Thu, Aug 18, 2005, 23:48
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Now that I double checked Deuce's name, I guess I was wrong. It is spelled McAllister. I thought it had the double "C". Whoops. Good pick still, Doug.
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| | | 43 | BoNkA
ID: 447531822
Thu, Aug 18, 2005, 23:53
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Gave me crap about Willis too, and it was spelled correctly.
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| | | 44 | Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 00:29
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MC - I was having problems logging on the site... not making my pick. So I was saying I must have set up my u/p combo for that site differently than I do for most other sites. Anyway, yeah, I'm pretty high on Deuce this year too. Not as high as I am on Priest, but then Priest comes with "extra requirements" which make drafting him a bit of a pain, still... not a bad problem to have. And my gut just tells me he'll stay healthy this year. That's the good thing about a large gut... it's easier to hear what it's saying to you.
Bonka, I think you have to spell it "What'choo talkin' bout, Willis?"
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| | | 45 | BoNkA
ID: 34759190
Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 01:59
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Friday morning before I leave I will check the status of the draft and either leave Guru my cell number to get ahold of me when it's my turn to draft or leave him a queue, all depending on how many picks are left before me. I'm probably leaving around 11:30 EST and won't have internet at my place until 3-5 (cable guy is scheduled for then). I'm bringing a laptop and will grab some wireless net elsewhere if need be though.
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| | | 46 | kev
Donor
ID: 043111845
Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 03:08
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Pick made. Rationale will be interesting on this one. I hope some picks get run through in the morning, as I would like to have made my pick before I go. If not, lets hope enough go through a small que can be made through the Guru.
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| | | 47 | GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 09:09
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I'll be available all day today in the office.
Have a meeting starting Mon for 4 days. Will only be able to check in the morning, at lunch, and after the meeting ends. Will see where we are at and leave queues as required.
Tax is up.
Sent him an email.
Will call him in a bit if he doesn't pick.
Cliff
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| | | 48 | leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 09:12
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I am around and should be able to pick soon after Tax.
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| | | 50 | kev
Donor
ID: 043111845
Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 10:33
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Will be home around 630 EST. Doubt my pick will be up by then, but also don't want to leave a 13 man que.
I doubt I can hold up the line that much right now.
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| | | 51 | kev
Donor
ID: 043111845
Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 10:46
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To solve the problem, I got a buddy of mine who does have internet access at work to check in for me, and if it's my pick, he is going to call me and I will make my pick through him. Just in case the draft gets going, I don't want to hold it up.
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| | | 53 | GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 11:57
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Talked to Taxman on the phone.
He is refing a tournament.
Waiting on a return call and then will email Dave with the choice as soon as I have it.
If I don't hear back from him in the next hour, will give him another call.
Cliff
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| | | 54 | GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 12:03
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Kev,
If you want, you can give me the email you want me to use or phone #s and I'll let you know after I pick each time coming your direction.
I already have all of Taxman's contact data.
Cliff
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| | | 55 | leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 12:06
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Heading to lunch for about an hour...two man queue going to Guru.
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| | | 56 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 12:55
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I got leggestand's queue.
For Saturday planning, I will be away from mid-afternoon through late evening, weather permitting. Planning a trip to Jacobs field. So, don't assume I can handle any queue's during that time.
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| | | 57 | Motley Crue
Dude
ID: 439372011
Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 12:58
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Go O's!
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| | | 58 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 13:02
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Coco Crisp bobblehead night!
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| | | 59 | GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 13:06
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Now playing phone tag with Taxman, hope to hear from him shortly and will send the pick to Guru.
Cliff
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| | | 60 | Motley Crue
Dude
ID: 439372011
Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 13:32
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I wonder what people will think in 50 years when they read that there was a player in the early 2000's named Coco Crisp. Heck, I think it's funny now. Reminds me of one of those oldtime ballplayer's names, like Archibald "Moonlight" Graham.
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| | | 61 | GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 13:38
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Just got off the phone with Taxman.
Emailed his choice to Guru.
Cliff
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| | | 62 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 13:39
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Picks entered for Taxman and leggestand. Bandos is on the clock.
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| | | 63 | GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 13:40
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Thanks Dave
Cliff
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| | | 64 | Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 15:00
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Is there any way to have Kafenatid drop me an email whenever a pick is made? I tried poking around a bit but couldn't find a setting for it.
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| | | 65 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 15:11
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Not that I know of.
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| | | 66 | Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 15:16
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Drat. Would be nice instead of hitting refresh all the time to see where we're at. Especially when you're considering trades, etc... not necessarily just waiting for your pick.
Another odd thing is that even though I set my account preference to my local time, everything is still showing up EST on the site.
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| | | 67 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 15:30
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For me, the draft page automatically refreshes every 10 minutes. So you probably don't need to keep hitting refresh.
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| | | 68 | Sludge
ID: 14411118
Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 15:39
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For me, the draft page automatically refreshes every 10 minutes. So you probably don't need to keep hitting refresh.
That'd be like watching paint dry anyway.
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| | | 70 | leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 15:44
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IAC, I sent you an email.
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| | | 71 | I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 3579513
Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 16:28
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Got It... will get back to you as soon as ender picks.
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| | | 72 | Ender
ID: 406351010
Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 16:28
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I'll have my pick posted pretty quick here. If IAC is around we can turn the corner and head back the other way.
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| | | 74 | Ender
ID: 406351010
Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 16:43
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You're up dude. I'll be around about 15 more minutes. It's later than I thought it was. I won't be home until around 9 PM CST if we don't turn the corner. I'll have my second pick posted no later than 10:00 PM CST tonight.
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| | | 76 | GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 16:47
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Guru can go in and fix it.
No way for you to do it now.
Cliff
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| | | 77 | leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 16:47
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Ender, and way to send a 2 man queue since the worst that could happen is IAC takes your #1 guy?
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| | | 78 | leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 16:48
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IAC, you can change the position yourself:
Click on your team, then click on the player, and a drop down with positions should come up.
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| | | 79 | GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 16:50
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Duh,
Legge's right.
Cliff
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| | | 80 | Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 16:54
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Trading my 2.11, 3.04, and 5.04 for IAC's 2.01 (JJ), 3.14, and 5.14
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| | | 81 | I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 3579513
Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 16:58
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Trade confirmed:
Doug's 2.11, 3.04, 5.04
for
IAC's 2.01 (Julius Jones), 3.14, and 5.14.
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| | | 82 | Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 16:58
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Well, Ender is on the clock 12 minutes after his post, so that should leave a 3 minute window for him to make his pick. =-p
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| | | 83 | leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 16:59
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Nice trade. As I saw Orange Julius falling, I tried to get him; but Doug's offer is certainly better than mine.
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| | | 84 | leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 17:16
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Looks like we missed the boat. I will be heading out for a bit tonight, so, I am sending a 3 man queue to all my queue holders. Feel free to use it up to 8 pm est, at which point I will make my own pick.
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| | | 86 | Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 17:30
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Slightly miffed Ender wouldn't leave a queue with someone when (a) he's on deck, (b) the person before him is actively posting and around, (c) he knows he won't be back for 5+ hours, and (d) a specific reminder/request for queue was posted by legge 4 minutes after his post in #73... but, *exhale*, it's really not that big of a deal.
Looks like he should get back a little bit before his 6 hour clock is up at least. It's early in the draft so just posting this as a friendly reminder for everyone so it doesn't become a pattern. Please leave a queue if you're on deck and leaving for a few hours.
I got your queue legge, thx.
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| | | 87 | I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 3579513
Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 18:23
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I wish I coulda been quicker, but I was entertaining 2 trade offers, and was trying to do this while at work. Still... 12min for 1 pick and 1 trade aint that bad.
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| | | 88 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 18:26
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Agree with Doug. Ender should have sent a queue, for all the reasons stated.
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| | | 89 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 18:43
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Let me propose an alternate approach to loading rosters at Fanball. After you make a pick, please go to Fanball and add that player to your own roster.
I started adding a few players, but on a dialup connection, the process is slow and cumbersome. If each manager loads his own roster as we go, my workload will be significantly reduced - which is a good thing, IMHO.
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| | | 90 | kev
Donor
ID: 043111845
Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 18:57
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Dave- sent my que to you. I will be out for the night, so if the pick is on me, you can make it for me, since you are up next.
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| | | 92 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 19:40
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I entered the trades in the software, so the email alerts should go to the correct person.
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| | | 93 | leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 21:01
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Alright. I probably won't be around when Ender picks, so, my queue is still good and you guys can make my pick if it happens tonight.
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| | | 94 | Bandos
ID: 1752158
Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 22:14
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I am hitting the sack as well. Anyone take a Q tonight?
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| | | 95 | GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 22:20
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Bandos,
Sure, send it to this email.
Cliff
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| | | 96 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 22:20
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I can take it.
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| | | 97 | GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 22:20
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Or, just designate me and I can make the pick.
Cliff
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| | | 98 | Bandos
ID: 1752158
Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 22:21
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Thank you gentlemen. Sent to Guru.
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| | | 99 | Bandos
ID: 1752158
Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 22:23
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+ Cliff via kafenatid
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| | | 100 | GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 22:29
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Got it.
Cliff
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| | | 101 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 22:33
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I didn't get an email from Bandos.
Or maybe it's just delayed.
Hope Cliff got one.
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| | | 102 | GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 22:36
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I got it Dave.
Gonna walk the dogs, but will make the choice as soon as I get back.
Or, I can forward it to you.
Cliff
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| | | 103 | Motley Crue
Dude
ID: 439372011
Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 22:37
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Hope Ender doesn't time out in the second round on the draft's first day. 5 minutes before the draft timer shuts off for the night. That's not a good thing. Although it worked out well for GoatLocker last season...
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| | | 104 | GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 22:39
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Jealousy will get you not a thing ;)
Nobody has picked yet in LOEG.
Cliff
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| | | 105 | Ender
ID: 406351010
Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 22:52
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Done.
Sorry guys, I had almost no time for this today. I know we all dream of a world where we can just sit around and play fantasy sports all the time, but unfortunately I don't live in that world :( If I had the time to make a queue I would have.
I'm should be fine the rest of the weekend if we make it back around.
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| | | 106 | Motley Crue
Dude
ID: 439372011
Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 23:13
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OK, I picked for legge with his last queue member. I suppose Taxman is in la-la land right now, so it's probably on hold until tomorrow. I'll check back then.
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| | | 107 | Ender
ID: 406351010
Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 23:27
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You know, I just don't like the tone of my post. It doesn't read the way I feel. I do apologize for not having a queue ready. I should have. I won't bore you with the mundane details of my busy day, but I was so flustered when I actually did have a chance to get online and make my first pick that used what little time I had second guessing myself. If I had taken any longer my wife would have had my head.
I promise to have queues ready and not slow down the draft as I myself get pretty annoyed (which is mostly good old fashioned impatience on my part) when others bog it down.
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| | | 108 | Motley Crue
Dude
ID: 439372011
Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 23:34
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Ender you are an RIFC vet. You've earned some slack from me. Your apologies are more than enough. Don't sweat it. Guru barks loud but he is really a softy.
We don't want your wife to have your head until after the draft. Do what you gotta do.
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| | | 109 | GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 23:36
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Ender,
Don't sweat it.
Sh*t happens (or is the Stuff Happens)
We'll get there.
Cliff
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| | | 122 | BoNkA
ID: 12719209
Sat, Aug 20, 2005, 10:26
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Just so you guys know, when we do the draft rationales, if I have to post a placeholder post, I won't be able to edit it. For some reason my ID will not stay on this computer. The computer I used at work during the summer was fine, but this (my main) just will not store it correctly. I've reset it multiple times with no avail. I also just checked my cookies folder and don't see any cookie file for this site. I guess for some reason it's not saving it while every other site works fine? :/
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| | | 123 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sat, Aug 20, 2005, 10:36
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If you inserted a placeholder, you wouldn't be able to edit in anyway. The self edit process only allows for deletion.
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| | | 124 | BoNkA
ID: 36739209
Sat, Aug 20, 2005, 10:39
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Ah, yes, I forgot about that. Anyways, this is annoying me as I can't find a way to fix it. If anyone has any ideas, let me know.
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| | | 144 | Challenger
Donor
ID: 481126818
Sat, Aug 20, 2005, 14:07
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Reminder: Guru has asked us to add our own players to our Fanball teams. With my slow dial-up modem, I fully understand why.
With kafenatid draft down for us this will be the best way to track who has been drafted.
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| | | 183 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 01:30
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Back again. Good game for tribe fans, in spite of a one hour rain delay at the start.
Fred got our kafenatid draft going again, but there is still an apparent problem with the timer, as you may note that our average time per pick is negative, and our draft is currently projected to end in 1963. To avoid a similar foul up when the clock resumes on Sunday morning, I implemented a weekend clock pause, so the timer will not be operating on Sunday, at least until Fred can figure out why the time problem is occurring.
This does not mean the clock is off. It just means we will have to administer it manually for the time being, if needed.
I updated all of the picks from today, including Kev's pick of Kerry Collins (from his queue). I'm currently "on the clock", but may not pick until the morning. I have to digest all of the picks that have come since my last pick, and I'm not sure I can do that coherently at this hour.
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| | | 184 | Bandos
ID: 1752158
Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 08:44
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Whats up with the rationale thread - a bit behind eh?
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| | | 185 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 09:29
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A disappointing start on rationales, although weekends always tend to be choppy. I'll probably have to do some major placeholder work on that later today.
I finally made my pick this morning. I was hoping someone else would take Gates so I didn't have to decide. But as it turned out, I am the one who gets to take that risk. I still had to sleep on it, though.
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| | | 186 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 09:35
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On a brighter note, we made excellent draft progress yesterday, especially for a weekend with the draft software broken. Thanks to everyone for staying alert and responsive!
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| | | 187 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 157272019
Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 09:43
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Just wanted to apologize to everybody for the software bug. I'm moving into a new house this week and it figures that any new bugs would show up during that time. ;) Everything should be back in working condition now. Again, sorry for the bug.
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| | | 188 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 10:21
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The kafenated software won't allow me to remove the weekend draft pause while it is in effect. So the automated clock won't restart until tomorrow morning. However, we will continue to enforce the 6 hour time limit today if needed. Hopefully, that will not be the case.
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| | | 190 | leggestand @ inlaws
ID: 547192018
Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 10:24
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I am still out of town, with limited internet access. Doug, thanks for the call yesterday. Give me calls today when my picks are up, and I should be pretty responsive again.
My rationales will have to wait until Monday once I get back home.
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| | | 192 | Challenger
Donor
ID: 481126818
Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 11:30
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Ya, I working on my draft rationales for rd 3 now.
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| | | 194 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 11:50
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Thanks for doing the grunt work on the rationales, Challenger. I was just heading over to do it myself, and saw you were on a roll. When we get far behind, it is impossible to get back on track unless someone goes on a placeholder rampage.
Everyone - please post either a rationale or a placeholder each time you make a pick. If you can, post the rationale first, and then make your pick. That way, the next picker doesn't have to wait to see if a rationale is coming. And if you are making someone else's pick from a queue, try to remember to post a rationale placeholder as well. If everyone is diligent, the process works well. But if we have a few slackers, things can snowball out of control.
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| | | 196 | Challenger
Donor
ID: 481126818
Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 12:04
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Your welcome. I figured you should enjoy some of you vacation.
Btw, I had 2 posts on my 2.12 because I had the wrong team for Cadillac. When I went to delete the wrong one, the correct one was gone. LOL!! (Should have just ask you to edit it.)
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| | | 208 | BoNkA
ID: 17522115
Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 16:52
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Interesting, Jones and Benson going back to back. I'm just hoping Benson signs and plays, was definitely a reach but with the position I'm in it shouldn't backfire too bad.
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| | | 209 | Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 17:18
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Can someone confirm for me that the schedule on the Fanball site is not going to change... i.e., that is our proper schedule for the upcoming season?
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| | | 211 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 18:09
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Doug - the schedule at Fanball is the final schedule.
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| | | 214 | Taxman
SuperDude
ID: 029463114
Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 20:56
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What happenned to Bandos? He posted a few hours ago...anyone got a queuue or a phone number for him? For months, my Monday's have been $hit day from #ell and I was truly hoping the draft would make the turn and get back to me before the night ends.
If we don't get back to me by 8 EST tomorrow morning, I will need to leave a queue with someone..preferably someone picking in the first 9 slots. Dave, can I leave it with you?
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| | | 215 | Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 21:01
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I wish I played AthleticsGuy on week 8. He's got 3 of his top 4 draft picks on bye that week! =-) Could be a good strategy bye-week-wise... just punt a given bye week, and be near full strength the rest of the time. I'm guessing it wasn't a specific strategy, however. As it turns out I've got no bye week duplicates so far (across entire roster) though I hadn't really been monitoring it closely, it's just by chance... BoNkA or IAC are the other two teams still like me. Let's see who can last until round 9! =-p
Heading out for the night. Left a queue for 5.14 as well as rationale for 3.14 with Guru.
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| | | 216 | Sludge
ID: 14411118
Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 21:09
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Gonzo has been misentered as a WR for Challenger (3.03).
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| | | 217 | Ender
ID: 406351010
Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 21:15
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I'm here and will be the rest of the night. If IAC is around we can turn the corner pretty quick Taxman.
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| | | 219 | Athletics Guy
ID: 187351816
Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 21:25
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Doug, I wish I could say it was all part of some brilliant strategy. But the truth is I didn't notice my week 8 bye problem until after I had Harrison. Then I just forgot all about it when I drafted Coles!
Anyways, it's just my stud RB and my top 2 receivers. It shouldn't affect me at all. ;)
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| | | 220 | BoNkA
ID: 407452120
Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 21:45
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I've actually lucked out so far. I've made two picks without looking at bye weeks only to find out I was ok after all. Doubt I'll be going much longer without any roster wide.
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| | | 221 | Taxman
SuperDude
ID: 029463114
Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 23:08
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I've already double shot myself in the foot..and in different weeks. Took Min QB and WR, which could be forgiven, had I not targeted a gamble in the 4th round for a RB (DeShaun Foster) who has same off week as my #1 pick, RB Dillon.
With 2 existing conflicts, I need to awaken the war room for the rest of the draft. Screwing up 1 week is not good, but screwing up two is bad...screw up the 3rd and we be seeing AAA next year.
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| | | 222 | Ender
ID: 406351010
Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 23:14
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I had Dillon and Martin with the sam bye last week. I took it on the chin that week too as I recall.
I'll keep checking in, but it doesn't look good as I finally have to go to work tomorrow (first day of school for teachers here). I'll be headed for bed soon, but will be prepared to make my pick in the morning.
The 6 hr clock is in effect, correct? If so I will just pick no matter what in the morning. If not I have to wait 6 hrs from when?
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| | | 223 | leggestand @ inlaws
ID: 547192018
Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 23:30
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I am heading back home tomorrow morning, so, give me a call if it is my pick by 11 am. I should be home after that, so, I will catch up on rationales and my pick after than.
Thanks Doug, for calling me and keeping me up to speed this past weekend.
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| | | 224 | Da Bomb
ID: 43359416
Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 23:44
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Manning has been the consensus #1 QB taken in these RIFC drafts, but under this scoring system, Culpepper outscored him last year by 11 points . Culpepper does have more questions marks this year, such as the loss of Moss and his injury history, but was the loss of Moss enough to lower him down to #2?
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| | | 225 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 23:57
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I can take queues for tomorrow, although I will be away from about 8 am until 11 am. After that, I should be around for most of the day.
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| | | 226 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 00:01
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Bandos will time out at 9:13 am tomorrow morning. However, since we have been in "pause" mode all day, the software won't start his clock until 7am, and I won't be around at 9:13 to override it.
Hopefully, he get his pick in well before then.
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| | | 229 | kev
Donor
ID: 043111845
Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 00:39
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I work the long shift tomorrow, so I will make sure Guru has my que, unless someone else in the top couple picks wants to take it, and will be around. Just hit me up with an email.
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| | | 230 | Taxman
SuperDude
ID: 029463114
Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 01:54
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from post 0 of this thread:
"If you know that you have pending time constraints, please post them in this thread. (e.g., "I'll be away until 6pm ET, so if my pick is due before then, you'll have to wait.") To the extent that you can alert everyone to potential availability issues, you can help others to plan their check-in times accordingly. That's simply good draft etiquette."
I sure wish I knew at 7:13 tonight that I could have gone on about my business, rather than having waited around for the pick that was never made.
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| | | 232 | Motley Crue
ID: 33741217
Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 07:27
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I'll be around all day, but without access to Kafenatid. If I come up, I will e-mail my pick to Guru.
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| | | 233 | Bandos
Sustainer
ID: 279492419
Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 07:55
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Re: 230
I do apologize. Anyone will tell you that I am a very curtious drafter. I feel asleep.
Sorry for the delay.
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| | | 234 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 07:59
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I was able to reset the clock back to 6 hours just before I left. We're back on track.
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| | | 235 | Challenger
Donor
ID: 481126818
Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 08:17
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With Guru gone for awhile this AM, I be glad to take any ques
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| | | 237 | Motley Crue
Dude
ID: 439372011
Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 08:48
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Sorry. Had that Edge rationale typed up at work and forgot to send it home. Just got a chance to retrieve and post it.
Good weekend, everyone. Anytime you can do 5 rounds in 3 days you are moving. This is excellent progress.
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| | | 238 | Ender
Donor
ID: 013443221
Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 09:05
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Pick made. I'll be around most of the morning. If I reach the point where I need to send a queue I will (to Challenger).
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| | | 239 | kev
Donor
ID: 043111845
Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 09:31
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que sent to Athletics Guy.
Will be back around 7pm EST.
Oh the west coast......
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| | | 241 | Challenger
Donor
ID: 481126818
Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 10:30
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I have not received IAC's que, nor does it appear he set me up as a designated picker.
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| | | 242 | Challenger
Donor
ID: 481126818
Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 10:38
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It also appears the draft clock for IAC is off. Already down to 4;28 when Doug just pick about 15 to 20 minutes ago. Can't really tell since the draft time is not there due to the "traded" label.
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| | | 243 | Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 10:44
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Well, my rationale post was at 10:17, and I made my pick a couple minutes before that post. So the kafenatid clock should read about 5:32 now instead of 4:22.
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| | | 244 | Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 10:49
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You know, I think what it's doing is counting the two picks on the turn as if they are under a single 6-hour clock... dating back to pick 5.13. Even though pick 5.14 was traded to a different manager (me), it's still treating 5.14 and 6.01 as if they are consecutive picks by the same manager (IAC). Maybe it's related to the fact that site seems to trade the player selected rather than the pick itself (if you look at the draft grid, Ray Lewis shows up as a traded player, as if IAC had drafted him then traded him to me... although it does allow me to make the pick rather than having IAC do it for me... kinda strange).
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| | | 245 | I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 3579513
Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 10:52
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My pick has been made + placeholder put in rationals... I'll post them in the discusion thread when I get home.
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| | | 246 | Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 10:53
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I had a bad dream last night, by the way. I dreamt I WAY overslept, woke up and it was like noon, went to my computer to see if Guru had used my queue for 5.14... and instead found someone had been posting for me and we had zipped ahead to round 12 and I had a bunch of scrubs on my squad. There was more to it, but that was the fantasy football part of it (I was also getting chewed out for missing various appointments this morning, etc.) Speaking of various appointments, I'll be out for the next couple hours, but my pick is 11 away so it shouldn't be a major holdup if it gets to me before I return.
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| | | 247 | Challenger
Donor
ID: 481126818
Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 11:01
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Ok Doug, that makes since since technically 5.14 & 6.01 only have 6 hours total.
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| | | 248 | Bandos
Sustainer
ID: 279492419
Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 11:06
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I would be interested in moving down in the 6th round if anyone wants the 6.03 pick. use the trade calculator. let me know via email.
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| | | 249 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 11:44
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I'm back. Time to copy over the backlogged rationales....
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| | | 250 | Bandos
Sustainer
ID: 279492419
Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 11:55
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As I am on the clock, I will wait 30 minutes to see if anyone wants 6.03, if no one objects. If no one wants to trade I will pick.
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| | | 251 | Motley Crue
Dude
ID: 439372011
Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 12:06
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Bandos, if you tell me who you're gonna pick, I will tell you if I am interested in trading for the pick.
Well, Guru, looks like the Dysfunction-O's made for a nice weekend for you Indians types. That Friday night game was in the bag. I have no earthly idea why they trotted Bedard back out there in the 8th. Don't they pay Julio to pitch the 8th with a 3-run lead?
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| | | 253 | Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 12:10
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Just back here briefly but now gonna be gone a while again... left a queue with Guru that should cover both 6.11 and 7.04.
Guru, if I get back and want to rethink any of my picks, I'll email you again (as well as posting here) to that effect.
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| | | 254 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 12:11
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Local Tribe radio talk shows are practically orgasmic over the weekend series. They're not only talking about the wild card race, they're setting their sites on catching the White Sox.
Hard to imagine that one week ago, they got swept at home by the D-Rays.
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| | | 255 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 12:13
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I moved over all backlogged rationales, and deleted them from this thread. I also whacked the Saturday draft picks from this thread, just to shorten it a bit.
If I screwed anything up, I can still retrieve the original thread items. Let me know.
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| | | 256 | Motley Crue
Dude
ID: 439372011
Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 12:17
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Still, as we approach 300 posts, it may be easier to start a new thread after another round or 2.
Yes, the Orioles have that effect on people. I'd like to see some consistency out of Baltimore, other than long@ss losing streaks.
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| | | 257 | Bandos
Sustainer
ID: 279492419
Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 12:41
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I went ahead and picked.
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| | | 258 | Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 13:22
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Guru, email sent, put queue on hold please... I'm in and out sporadically and should be back soon enough to evaluate and pick on my own when it comes up.
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| | | 261 | Motley Crue
Dude
ID: 439372011
Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 16:33
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Sorry if I jumped the gun, BoNkA. I wanted to get that rationale up before I cut out of the office. Ask deepsnapper about my tendency to move fast with the rationales. ; )
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| | | 262 | Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 17:00
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Dunno how quick we'll turn the corner but I'll be back in an hour.
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| | | 263 | Sludge
ID: 14411118
Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 18:30
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My rationales will be posted immediately after my selections, so give me 10-15 minutes before jumping me with a placeholder. I know it's not a big deal, but when I post them and see that someone's jumped ahead and put up a placeholder for me, I feel retroactively rushed.
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| | | 265 | Athletics Guy
ID: 187351816
Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 18:33
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Well, I had no way of knowing Sludge. Perhaps, you should post the rationales before you make the pick.
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| | | 266 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 19:25
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My instructions have always been to post your rationale before you make your pick. That way, you avoid the very situations that have been occurring!
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| | | 267 | Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 19:29
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I don't have a rationale due (5.04 was traded away) but I will be picking in the next 5-10 mins.
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| | | 268 | Sludge
ID: 14411118
Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 19:31
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No, Guru, your instructions are to "post your (2 round lagged) comments at the time you make each pick."
I don't recall you ever being specific about doing it before drafting your players, and I searched through the three threads from this year, and nowhere in them is that guidance.
I don't have my rationales pre-written. I prefer to make my current selections first, then look back and reflect. But I guess I screwed up without knowing, so it won't happen again.
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| | | 269 | Sludge
ID: 14411118
Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 19:32
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Oh... emphasis added (the italics).
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| | | 270 | Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 19:34
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Objection! Sludge is being argumentative!
;-)
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| | | 271 | Sludge
ID: 14411118
Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 19:41
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Me? Argumenative? I dispute your insinuation, your accusation, and your proliferation of heinous lies meant to sully my squeeky clean name.
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| | | 272 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 19:55
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Ahem... from post 149:Everyone - please post either a rationale or a placeholder each time you make a pick. If you can, post the rationale first, and then make your pick. I realize that I may have overstated the case when I said that my instructions have always been to do it that way. But I did make that specific suggestion just yesterday when we got so far behind.
It's difficult to know if someone is working on a rationale or just forgot. If you are working on one after you have picked, perhaps a quick note in this thread to that effect would at least alert the next picker of your situation.
I (almost) always draft my rationale at the time I make my pick, so it's a simple matter to cut and paste when the pick is due.
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| | | 273 | Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 20:11
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Ditto that (the cut/paste rationale technique)... and posting before picking has also become habit for me, although I must admit that on rare occasion I get so excited that I accidentally make my pick first. Oops.
But hey, at least I don't wet myself anymore, so I've got that going for me. :-|
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| | | 274 | Sludge
ID: 14411118
Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 20:23
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Alright. I know when I'm beaten.
But I wouldn't exactly classify myself as a slacker.
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| | | 276 | Taxman
SuperDude
ID: 029463114
Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 20:57
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I will be gone for 2 hours...back by 10 PM CST. I do not have time for a queue.
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| | | 277 | kev
Donor
ID: 043111845
Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 21:54
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Im around and should be checking in...It shouldnt be too long after Bonka/Guru that I pick
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| | | 278 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 22:13
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Will pick shortly. Stand by.
[... now I wonder if BoNkA is currently working on his rationale, or whether I should just go ahead an add a placeholder. So many difficult choices....]
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| | | 279 | GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 22:16
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Crap, just realized I put 4.06 in the Rationale thread and not here.
Could a mod please move it for me.
Thanks,
Cliff
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| | | 280 | GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 22:16
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Guru,
You're also up in GOLD.
Cliff
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Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 22:16
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LOL. You are up in the Goldmember draft too. I thought you weren't allowed any free time until Xmas?
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| | | 282 | leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 22:22
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I am here too (with Guru, kev, and Goat already nearby, and Tax being back around 11 est...we should get at least 5 more picks in tonight).
If I get tired before 11est and want to head offline, I will send a 2 man queue to my designated pickers.
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| | | 283 | I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 34743414
Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 22:28
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I'll be here at the end picks too if we happen to get their.
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| | | 284 | Sludge
ID: 14411118
Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 22:39
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[... now I wonder if BoNkA is currently working on his rationale, or whether I should just go ahead an add a placeholder. So many difficult choices....]
I find it kinda funny that the song playing on my wife's radio (as she's packing for a trip to Louisiana) as I read that was Patience by Guns 'n Roses.
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| | | 286 | Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 23:04
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I'm available for queues.
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| | | 287 | Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 23:19
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I may be interested in swapping up in the 8th round. The most obvious exchange would be to swap back in the 9th (this isn't like early rounds where the quality drops off rapidly each round).
But if you are targeting a position in the 8th round, WR, QB, backup RB, whatever... and have multiple players you are indifferent between, then slide down a few picks in round 8 and you'll still get one of your guys... essentially paying nothing in order to slide up next round.
If this appeals to anyone, drop me an email. Obviously you don't have to decide until your pick is on the clock, but at least let me know if you think it's a possibility so I can be prepared to accept/deny when the time comes.
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| | | 288 | Bandos
Sustainer
ID: 279492419
Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 23:22
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I am also around for the end run once Taxman returns.
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| | | 289 | leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 23:40
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Queue sent to Doug, MC, and Guru. It's only for pick 7.11, so, 8.04 will not happen for me tonight (if it gets to me).
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| | | 290 | Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 23:52
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That's alright, I'll just make something up for you Matt. You wanted Craphonso Thorpe at 8.04, right? At least the name befits the pick... ;-)
Editor's Note: I realize I mentioned an undrafted player for comic effect... and do apologize... however I'm quite certain he will REMAIN undrafted for the duration (unless it's also for comic effect), so cut me some slack on this one.
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| | | 291 | Ender
ID: 406351010
Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 23:55
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I'm here if it gets to me. I'll hang around for the turn.
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| | | 292 | Taxman
SuperDude
ID: 029463114
Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 23:57
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I am back....give me 5 minutes
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| | | 293 | Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 00:24
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5? I think you're missing a digit. =-p Take your time, just teasing.
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| | | 294 | Ender
ID: 406351010
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 00:43
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The anticipation is killing me!
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| | | 295 | Ender
ID: 406351010
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 00:47
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We sat on the edge of our seats for that? ;)
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| | | 296 | Challenger
Donor
ID: 481126818
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 00:50
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Doug, I feel you're referring to how I have been drafting......Craphonso!!! :>( <<<<<< refers to my drafting
My draft picks really have no rationale to them since Holmes......Ok, Gonzo might be ok. Can't I start putting down, "Because I felt like it!"???
2 more legge's rationales until I make his "Biggest surprise" mentioning with that Williams pick. Hope he bold's it for me!!
Just watching Nightline, a reporter asks a kid what steroids are. Kid answered, "They're illegal drugs what baseball players take." I stop listening after that as I was laughing to hard. Switch the channel over to "Becker".
My rationales will be posted immediately after my selections, so give me 10-15 minutes before jumping me with a placeholder. huuuhhhh?!!? Sounds like a Yogism (Sorry Sludge)
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| | | 297 | Bandos
Sustainer
ID: 279492419
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 00:51
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Im done for the night as legge wont make 8.04 anyhow. back before 8am to pick.
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| | | 299 | Taxman
SuperDude
ID: 029463114
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 01:41
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yeah...well to follow the draft rater..or to follow your intuition.
I'm sorry I misrepresented the time before drafting, but as I pondered the above question (went with intuition), my oldest daughter called as she was driving back to San Antonio from Corpus Christi after attending the "viewing" of the closed casket of her daughter's (my grandaughter) baby sitter during the time of my daughter's divorce a year or so ago, a 20 year old girl who was found murdered, shot and mutilated just off the Univ. Texas campus. My daughter needed an ear and some love, and bottom line, that's what dad's are for. Son's are fun, but daughters are forever.
So much for tonighht's soap opera....but think about it..if you haven't told some one you love 'em recently, don't wait, fate can forever steal the opportunity we have right now. Nobody is getting out of this thing alive...but damn, I hate to leave things unsaid.
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| | | 300 | Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 02:36
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Wow, that's pretty grim. Sorry she had to be so close to something so gruesome, but glad you could be there for her as a source of love and comfort. Your words are well received, and I for one appreciate your sharing.
FWIW, the jesting re: draft pick time was intended very lightheartedly and hope it came across as such.
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| | | 301 | Bandos
Sustainer
ID: 279492419
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 08:06
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Doug and I have agreed on a trade. Grur has Dougs pick at 8.03.
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| | | 302 | GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 08:39
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Still need a mod to move my 4.06 Rationale for Roy Williams to where it fits vice where I stuck
it in at when I accidently posted it in Rationales vice here.
Or, do I need to delete it from that thread and enter it here.
Please let me know.
If I need to delete it and don't do it before I leave for work, won't happen until I get home.
Cliff
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| | | 303 | Ender
ID: 1710131316
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 08:54
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I regret my choice of words above :( I was just trying to play with you.
We never said "I love you" much growing up. No real harm done as we all understood it implicitly. Now that I am father myself I have made sure that saying it is an everyday affair. I second what Taxman said. Having grown up in both, I prefer to live in a house where it is said effortlessly and often.
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| | | 304 | Bandos
Sustainer
ID: 279492419
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 09:27
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errr - guru.
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| | | 305 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 09:31
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I'll process the trade in a moment, and make Doug's pick. The trade is:
Bandos trades
8.03, 9.12, 15.12, 20.03
to Doug for
8.11, 9.04, 15.04, 20.11
Cliff, I'll move your misplaced rationale. I prefer to do rationale edits in bunches, so it will happen with the next bunch.
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| | | 307 | GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 09:37
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Thanks Dave, just didn't want my screwup overlooked. LOL
Cliff
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| | | 309 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 10:00
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GL - I'll do my best to notice all of your screwups.
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| | | 310 | Taxman
SuperDude
ID: 029463114
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 10:20
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Yeah, just a personal observation Dave, I haven't noticed you ever being too picky about whose screw ups you ketch :>)
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| | | 311 | leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 10:38
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Tax, I am getting ready to make my pick, so, if you're around you will be up shortly.
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| | | 312 | Taxman
SuperDude
ID: 029463114
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 10:46
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gotta go..2 man queue sent to Dave and Cliff via kafenatid.
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| | | 313 | Taxman
SuperDude
ID: 029463114
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 10:48
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nevermind..pick made
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| | | 314 | kev
Donor
ID: 043111845
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 10:55
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Im around for 20 minutes if Cliff decided to pick.
If you guys make waves today, I will be home hopefully around 730 EST. I can't be leaving a 18 man que though...I will try and get my buddy to check in the afternoon to see the progress.
If Cliff doesnt pick, anyone around to take a very short que?
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| | | 315 | leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 10:58
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kev, I am around all day. Just make sure to make me a deisgnated picker.
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| | | 316 | Sludge
ID: 14411118
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 11:01
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My rationales will be posted immediately after my selections, so give me 10-15 minutes before jumping me with a placeholder. huuuhhhh?!!? Sounds like a Yogism (Sorry Sludge)
With a 6 hour clock, 10-15 minutes is immediately. It's a matter of perspective. Maybe I'm just too laid back for this group.
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| | | 317 | Sludge
ID: 14411118
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 11:02
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Or perhaps I should have said "composed" instead of "posted".
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| | | 318 | kev
Donor
ID: 043111845
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 11:22
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left my que for Guru. In a rush, and couldn't find legge's email.
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| | | 319 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 11:43
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Friday is still several days away, but it will be a difficult one for me with potential implications for the whole league.
On Friday, I'll be driving back from Ohio to Connecticut, and on the road from approx. 9am until 8pm. During that time, I will be reachable by cell phone, but I will have no internet connectivity.
I'll do my best to set up a queue in advance, although, depending on my position at the time I leave, I may need/want a phone call to confirm the intervening developments before authorizing the trigger-pulling. I'll also need to have someone who I can designate as an alternate picker for my team.
It also means I will not be available to take queues from anyone else on that day. If you have been relying on me for that, you will need to make alternate arrangements, including designating that person in advance at kafenatid, if necessary.
Obviously, a lot will happen between now and then. But since this will impact several of you - particularly those who rely on me as your backup - I thought an early alert was appropriate.
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| | | 320 | Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 11:56
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I will be here at the apartment building I manage tending to various tenant issues and what not, but I'm rarely away for more than an hour at a time, if that. So, I will be around and available all day to help out Guru and/or anyone else who needs to leave queues that day.
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| | | 321 | Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 11:57
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(The above applies not only for Friday but basically today through Friday)
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| | | 322 | leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 11:58
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Rationale:
6.04 Chris Chambers, WR, MIA
Like I said in my Crumpler rationale, if Chambers didn't fall to me here, I would of been upset with my drafting.
Through 5 rounds, I still didn't have a WR; it seemed like the WR's I targeted each round would go right before my pick, so, I just kept holding off. Well, I figured I needed to start with a solid WR by round 6: and took Chambers. He never has a good QB throwing him the ball, but he always puts up good numbers. In 2004, Chambers was good for 900 yds and 7 TD's, and he had no running game.
In 2003, when he had a running game, he put up 960 yards and 11 TD's. With the running game improved in 2005, I expect over 1000 yards and 10 TD's. Not bad for a 6th round pick.
Other people I debated on taking: Muhammed, Mason, Burress (who I got 20 picks later)
6th round thoughts:
Best Values: Jimmy Smith, Mason, Muhammed, and Chambers. All are the un-questioned, good #1 WR's for their teams and should not suffer too much just because of lack of solid QB's.
Biggest surprise: New England D at 6.03. I wasn't expecting them to go as the 1st defense off the board or go that early.
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| | | 323 | Sludge
ID: 14411118
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 11:59
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I'm around for queues.
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| | | 324 | leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 12:00
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I am going to need phone calls agin (ahem, DOug) this weekend, as I am going out of town for another draft. I should only be out of commision for 30 hours or so (9 am Sat through 2 pm Sun), but I am sure I will need to pick during this timeframe.
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| | | 325 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 12:34
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This year, I'll subdivide the rationale thread into 3 segments, 7 rounds apiece. When we approach the end of round 7, I'll start a new one for rounds 8-14.
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| | | 326 | Bandos
Sustainer
ID: 279492419
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 13:09
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6.03 New England, DEF
I tried to trade this pick as I had NE D targeted for a late 6th round pick. Undaunted by reaching a bit, I like a plug and play D as it frees up a roster spot. NE fits the bill. Hell, I would even start them against Indy. I knew that NE and BAL would be gone by 7.11 – these two are considerably above the pack of about 9 that are very similar. Bill is the master and the fan in me wanted to get doubly excited every time they stymied another opponent or forced Manning into 4 picks. I considered a WR and Suggs here. Was very happy that Suggs fell to me at 7.11.
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| | | 327 | Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 15:20
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Hope everything is cool with Goat. T-minus 90 mins. to our first timeout.
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| | | 328 | GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 15:44
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Got tied up in a meeting.
Sorry all, wasn't planned.
Cliff
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| | | 329 | leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 15:59
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I will be sending out a pretty substantail queue (through pick 10.04) tomorrow to my deisgnated pickers, as I will be on a business trip and will not have cpu access.
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| | | 330 | Taxman
SuperDude
ID: 029463114
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 16:06
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I have same similar problem as Dave .. but not only Friday..but also the following 6 days as I have home show in Dallas through Sunday..drive back to Austin Sunday night to catch an all day Monday flight to Tampa to attend meetings w/o probable internet ..return to Austin and computer access late Thursday night, September 1st. I need a phone buddy.
Let me know if anyone can help me see the big picture. I will have my cheat sheets and draft lists with me, however, I will need an update on who's been drafted and someone to enter my picks.
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| | | 331 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 16:07
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I'm here, but am awaiting final negotiations with another manager about a possible trade. Stand by...
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| | | 332 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 16:15
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Trade announcement:
Motley Crue and Guru swap picks in rounds 8, 9, and 15.
Guru gets 8.10, 9.05, and 15.05
Motley gets 8.08, 9.07, and 15.07
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| | | 333 | leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 16:23
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MC trades up to get his 5th RB (and taking a handcuff from me!). I am looking forward to the rationale.
I debated on taking Moore at 8.04, but I thought Moulds was was more valuable to my team and that Moore may fall back down to me.
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| | | 334 | Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 16:30
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I'm generally available for queues, phone, etc. and what not until Sept. 4th... then I may or may not be leaving the country for a few days (to be determined).
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| | | 335 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 16:38
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As I recall, MC was actively swiping handcuffs from a lot of us last year. I guess he's at it again!
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| | | 336 | BoNkA
ID: 287572315
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 16:57
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Glad I have 2 starting RBs. Although my backup for those bye weeks is a little iffy. Glad we have a RB vacuum with us to make it even harder :P
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| | | 337 | Taxman
SuperDude
ID: 029463114
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 17:03
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If you avoid the top running backs in the early rounds, you won't have anyone stealing your handcuffs
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| | | 338 | BoNkA
ID: 357112316
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 17:11
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I apologize for mentioning an undrafted player in my last rationale. For some reason I had thought he was taken already and didn't think twice.
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| | | 339 | Challenger
Donor
ID: 481126818
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 17:13
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Wow, nice trade MC! Traded up to snatch a rb from Guru. Leaves me wondering if Guru was even eyeing a rb there.
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| | | 340 | Motley Crue
ID: 33741217
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 17:13
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Whoa, now. I have a great reason for taking every one of those guys. You'll have to wait until I get my rationales up, but I think the 5 I have now are better than the stable I had last season. I mean, that's saying something. Last year's lineup included Barlow, Henry, Wheatley and several other guys on the verge of retiring from the NFL.
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| | | 341 | Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 17:15
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Nice pick Guru. Had my eye on him for a while, but wasn't ready to pull the trigger for a couple more rounds. Great value.
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| | | 342 | Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 17:23
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Terrence McGee kicks ass in Madden.
;-)
Was just checking out the grid. If Hasselbeck had slipped to GoatLocker at 7.09 I would've REALLY REALLY liked his team. Can't wait to read the Palmer rationale....I suppose he is primed to improve, and he does have a good pair of receivers and a good RB, but still a curious choice.
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| | | 343 | leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 17:36
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Species, And instead, you REALLY REALLY like my team, right? I know I don't.
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| | | 344 | Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 18:01
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I like your team too leggestand. Solid skill position players (Moulds was a steal, IMO). Should be interesting to see if lack of top flight IDP or team defense will come back to bite you.
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| | | 345 | Bandos
Sustainer
ID: 279492419
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 18:12
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For some reason I got the stop sign on Donte Stallworth - which I proceeded to go through as I couldnt find him as drafted and couldnt figure out a different way to spell it.
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| | | 346 | kev
Donor
ID: 043111845
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 19:39
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Guru- around tonight to take my que? I got a poker tourney that Im leaving for in about an hour.
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| | | 347 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 20:13
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I can take a queue tonight. I'll be away early tomorrow morning, however.
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| | | 348 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 20:15
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BTW, BoNkA, I'll be picking shortly, if you're around. Just doing some last minute research.
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| | | 349 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 20:27
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Bandos [345] - Perhaps the correct spelling is Donté
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| | | 350 | leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 21:52
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Long queue sent to Doug for my next two picks. If for some reason we get 11.11 by tomorrow night, please wait for me to get back around 9:30pm est.
Hopefully you can follow my queue, Doug, since it has a couple scenarios. Thanks.
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| | | 351 | Taxman
SuperDude
ID: 029463114
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 22:39
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I am going to call it a night, we've been stalled a couple hours and 5 picks to get to me.
I received zero response to post 330. W/O some help the draft is doomed to time out on each of my picks after tomorrow afternoon.
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| | | 352 | Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 23:02
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You clearly didn't read post 334. =-p Want me to email you instead?
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| | | 353 | Motley Crue
ID: 33741217
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 23:25
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Sorry for the delay. I had a root canal today and then 3 beers at dinner knocked me way out until TB called me to talk RIBC.
Great job taking my intented target this round, Guru. I suppose that makes up for last season.
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| | | 354 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 23:50
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Your trade made it all possible!
;-)
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| | | 355 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 23:51
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Taxman - after Friday, I should be available for queues, phone alerts, etc. as well.
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| | | 356 | Motley Crue
ID: 33741217
Wed, Aug 24, 2005, 07:32
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354, I know the irony there is thick, isn't it?
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| | | 357 | Motley Crue
Dude
ID: 439372011
Wed, Aug 24, 2005, 08:44
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6.10 Mike Anderson, RB, DEN
Did I just draft Denver’s starting tailback in the 6th round? Everyone knows that the Broncos churn out 1,000-yard-backs like Ben Affleck does expensive Hollywood clunkers. If Anderson, who is #1 on the Denver depth chart, stays there for at least half the season, this pick is worth the price. I honestly wanted to wait until the 9th round or so to take him, but the more I thought about it, the more I realized
A. Tatum Bell has demonstrated a slight history of injury.
B. Mike Anderson has demonstrated a strong history of success.
And yes, I backed myself into a corner by not taking a second RB until round 5. Guru and I have similar plans obviously.
However, I might have drafted Denver’s starting tailback in the 6th round.
7.06 Travis Henry, RB, TEN
I’m the President of his fan club; I had to take him.
You know he is a good RB. I don’t need to convince you. How healthy will Chris Brown be this season? That’s the only issue with Henry. If Brown starts 16 games, I have a third down back with little to no upside. If Chris Brown gets injured again, as he has throughout college and his pro career, I have another starting RB. And I’ll remind everyone of Henry’s heroic 2003 campaign in which he rushed for 1356 yards and 10 TD’s, despite having a broken leg for half the season.
McGahee’s caddy indeed.
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| | | 358 | Taxman
SuperDude
ID: 029463114
Wed, Aug 24, 2005, 09:13
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Doug
Thanks. I'll need to know your phone number to call you..and an e-mail address to send my phone number. I think you should send your phone number by e-mail, which is why I have been posting my e-mail address in the e-mail box the past few postings.
Last time I published on line I started receiving p/c from car dealerships and financial planners from all around the country, as some "friend" entered my number in a data dispersal system requesting their services etc.
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| | | 359 | Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Wed, Aug 24, 2005, 09:28
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I've been grabbing everyone's email off the Fanball site for trades, queues, etc., but am including it here as well for quick reference.
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| | | 360 | Motley Crue
Dude
ID: 439372011
Wed, Aug 24, 2005, 10:18
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I just did a bunch of rationale placeholders if Bandos is around to insert his from the 7th round.
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| | | 361 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Aug 24, 2005, 10:39
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Time to move the discussion to a new thread. This was loading so-o-o-o-o slowly via my dial-up connection.
next thread
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