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Subject: RIFC 2005 - Draft Rationales


  Posted by: Guru - [330592710] Sat, Aug 20, 2005, 10:42

This thread will be for managers in the 2005 RotoGuru Invitational Football Challenge to provide the rationale for each pick.

Here are the ground rules:
1. Only managers in this league should post here. If you want to provide feedback (either from other league managers, or from those not in the league), put it in the discussion thread. (Non-conforming discussion in this thread will be deleted.)

2. Try to keep the pick rationales in the same order as the draft. We'll attempt to keep this thread 2 rounds behind the actual draft. With the lag, most comments should not have an impact on the draft in progress. However, if there are aspects of your pick that you feel need to be kept under wraps, feel free to protect that information. In particular, please avoid mentioning the names of any players who are still undrafted at that time of the post.

Please post your (2 round lagged) comments at the time you make each pick. For example, you should post your comments for your round 1 pick when you make your round 3 selection. If you are not ready to post at that time, then create a "placeholder" so that the next person is able to go ahead in sequence. When your post is ready, simply post it in the draft discussion thread and a moderator can copy it over.

If your rationale is due and intervening placeholders have not been inserted, please insert them before posting your rationale.

3. Once the draft is over, each manager is also encouraged to provide a general draft recap, at which time you can discuss your overall strategy, mention any undisclosed factors, comment on what worked out well and what didn't, etc.

The general format should be:
1.01 Priest Holmes - RB, KC
Several sentences of rationale.

As part of your first round rationale, please comment on your selection of draft sequence.
 
1Sludge
      ID: 14411118
      Sat, Aug 20, 2005, 14:13
1.01 Ladainian Tomlinson - RB, San Diego

Do I really need a rationale? Holmes might outscore Tomlinson, but the injury cloud hangs over Holmes's head, obviously. Durability, consistency. What more could you want?

I took the #1 pick simply because I haven't drafted first in a long while. That's it. Really. I would actually prefer about 5th or 6th, but I figured, meh, why not? Plus I get to wait a lot longer between picks, which is a definite plus.
 
3Athletics Guy
      ID: 187351816
      Sat, Aug 20, 2005, 14:53
1.02 Shaun Alexander, RB, SEA

I don't make it a rule for myself that I have to draft a running back in the 1st round. But with the #2 pick available, it was a no-brainer for me. It guaranteed myself of having one of the top 2 RBs in the NFL IMO(Tomlinson and Alexander).

As I expected, Sludge took LT with the 1st pick. I gladly settled for my consolation prize: Shaun Alexander. He's been absolutely solid, scoring 16+ touchdowns and gaining 1600 total yards during each of the past 4 seasons. With free agency just around the corner, Alexander should have plenty of motivation to have another stellar season. 20+ TDs and the rushing title would be nice.
 
5Challenger
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      Sat, Aug 20, 2005, 14:55
1.03 Priest Holmes - RB, KC

I selected the #3 draft position because I believed Holmes would still be available and I've never had the opportunity to own Holmes in a draft league. However, I wavered from 3rd to 6th draft positions as I also wanted Manning. I knew the 3rd position would definitely allow me to select Manning and would have if Holmes & LT had been the first 2 selections.

Simply when Holmes is healthy he is the offense of the Chiefs. An all around running back whom will bring not only rushing yards, but receiving also to go along with touchdowns by the bundles.

There are two main concerns though with selecting Holmes, remaining healthy and how much Holmes will be "rested" in an effort to keep him healthy for the entire season. Remaining healthy is a concern with every single player drafted so I forced myself to ignore that bugaboo even though Holmes will be obviously the main stay of my team. As far as the 'rested' concern, I've heard it before…….
 
8Doug
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      ID: 02730280
      Sat, Aug 20, 2005, 20:14
1.04 - Deuce McAllister, RB, NO

Well, I had two options... pick late in the first round, or the 4 slot. The upside of the 4 slot was too high to pass up. Also, when I rated my top 25 players, I was pretty happy with who I could get at 2.11 value-wise. The downside was it would probably be Holt, Harrison, or Chad Johnson... a WR... meaning I'd have to reach for a RB down the line. I also had my eye on Gonzo at 3.04 (who, ironically, ened up going at 3.03).

So, would one of the big 3 fall to me? No. And I'm half-glad Priest didn't, because of the risk involved (but I would have taken the chance). Instead, I get a guy who has shown he can top 2000 all-purpose yards, is healthy, has an improved O-Line, and a team that's claiming they are more dedicted to the run this year. He's looked good in preseason to me. All adds up to a return to 2000 all-purpose yards this year IMHO. His weakness has always been his sub-stellar TD production, but my instinct tells me that's more of an artifact than it is truly meaningful data. It would not surprise me to see Deuce end up as the #1 or #2 RB this year.

McGahee has as much upside, but has to prove he has full-season durability, and Buffalo's O-line depth is a concern. James was considered too, as I think he'll have a good season... but not a 2000 all-purpose yard season.
 
9Motley Crue
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 02:06
1.05 Edgerrin James, RB, IND

You know about how the first round is going to go in these drafts, so the only real question is where you wind up in the draft*draft. I was happy to go 7th this year, because I went 11th last year and there are few “options” left at that point. It’s really just the leftovers. It’s not my favorite going first or second because then you wind up picking very low down in the 2nd and 4th rounds, which can be difficult. I chose to draft 5th because I wanted to ensure I would get one of LT, Priest, Alexander, McAllister, or Edge while retaining as early a pick as possible in the 2nd and 4th rounds. I could have gone 4th but I like James and McAllister equally, so why not elect the earlier choice in round 2?

I’ve never had him on a fantasy team before, as far as I remember. He has always been an elite back and if not for his torn ACL a few years ago, he would likely have stats that would put him in “Greatest of All Time” discussions. Obviously the Colts offense is good. I expect James to carry my fantasy team over the entire season and approach the 2,000 combined yards he had last year, while scoring 10+ times this season. Those are numbers commensurate with the 5th overall pick. Since we start 2 RB’s and most of the very good ones will be gone by my next pick, I may have to risk drafting a rookie RB or at least one with a lesser performance history. But I fully intend to choose another one unless Randy Moss or Daunte Culpepper is still available.

 
10BoNkA
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 02:07
1.06 Willis McGahee, RB, Buf

I selected the #6 pick figuring I'd be drafting whoever remained out of Edge, Deuce, and Willis, so when it was my turn to pick, I stuck with my plan. I also took the 6 slot in hopes of catching Culpepper in the 2nd round, but unfortunately that didn't work out.

 
11Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 02:10
1.07 Peyton Manning, QB, IND
I selected the 7th pick thinking that I would get Manning here. Manning emerged as the dominant QB last season, and although I don't expect a repeat of last year's gaudy numbers, I also don't discount the possibility. The next highest ranked QBs, Culpepper and McNabb, each have significant issues (no Moss, and TO?), and Manning also gets high marks for durability (knock on Wood).

Last year, I had good luck taking Culpepper in Round 1 (albeit later in the round), so I'm hoping the tactic bears similar fruit this year.

If Manning had gone earlier, I'd have taken McGahee (or whichever of the first 6 RBs was available).
 
12For Kev
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      Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 11:33
1.08 Domanick Davis, RB, Houston Texans

First off, the reasoning for me taking the 8th pick was simple. I wanted a top 4 spot, or a mid level spot. I had no interest in some of the top RB’s, so I thought at 8, I could avoid being in a position where I had to take them, where I could still take a top flight RB. It also allowed me to avoid the drop off that I thought would come with RB’s in the mid 2nd round.

I was flip flopping between Davis and Portis. I felt I would go with the guy on the better offense, who catches more balls, with the easier schedule. Plus, if you look at how Davis ended last year, I think I’m taking the better back. If Davis gets double digit TD’s, I’m happy with this pick.

 
13For GoatLocker
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      Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 11:34
1.09 Clinton Portis, RB, Was

First, I took the 9 hole based on I felt it was the best of what was left. It gives me a little bit better option toward the middle of the group. Knew I would still get a top 10 if not a top 7 or 8 running back and then get a second RB still being in the top 20 or better.

Portis was the best RB on my list at the time and fulfilled my wishes for the best RB. Gives me a good base to build on. Actually am looking for him to have a better season than last year.

Know he is nicked up right now, but expect him to be just fine by seasons start.

 
14For Taxman
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      ID: 481126818
      Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 11:34
1.10 Cory Dillion, RB, NE

This pick was a painted into the corner pick. With the 13th choice of draft slots, I chose 10th picking slot over 12th. With the continuation of the run on RB, the choice became a beauty contest between the Lewis (off season felony sentance distraction), the Jones boys (both unproven), Dillion (good NE citizen/proven/great Offensive line/consistent) and Barber(probably loses red zone carries to Jacobs).

I went with the offensive line/citizenship/consistent guy. Dillion stands out stat for 2004, (besides career high touches/yards/TD/fumbles per touch) his worst yardage from scrimmage day was 86, although he averaged just 116/game. Consistent + player each week. Another tease, Dillion suffered career low (throw out 2003 in CIN) in receptions + rec. yrds.

A solid first round pick before the gambling starts.

 
15For leggestand
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      Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 11:35
1.11 Jamal Lewis, RB, BAL

I took the 11th pick because I didn't see a huge difference between my 4th-13th ranked RB's. As my pick got closer, I started drooling over the prospect of getting Jamal...this guy is only one season removed from 2000 yards, and last year, he put up over 1000 rushing yards in only 12 games. I expect the Ravens passing offense to be improved (not great, but improved), and with that, Jamal's numbers should remain solid. I would not be surprised to see Jamal lead the league in rushing yards this season, and as a Steelers fan, it pains me to say that.

One thought stuck in my mind, and I have no idea how it will play out during the season: Remember that LB that got in trouble with the law on murder charges/obstruction of justice and how well he played once those charges were behind him? Well, Jamal has to feel like a huge burden has been lifted off his shoulders, and should want to get his jail time/drug charge off peoples minds. Will he play as well as that LB with a huge chip on his shoulder...let's hope he does.

Other considerations at this pick: Julius Jones, Kevin Jones (decided to stick with a safer pick)

1st round thoughts:
Biggest reach - None. Only player that went in the 1st round that I thought would fall into the early 2nd round was Rudi Johnson, but by no means was he a stretch pick at 1.13.

Best "Discount" Pick - Again, no real sleeper in round 1, but I thought Kevin Jones at 1.14 was great value for IAC.

 
16For Bandos
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      Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 11:36
1.12 Tiki Barber, RB, NYG

I had two very different drafts last year and both resulted in first place finishes. In the RQL #3, Tiki was a big part of it. Just hoping for a solid season like last year.

From a purely fan point of view, I was hoping to get Dillon with this pick.

 
17For Ender
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      ID: 481126818
      Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 11:37
1.13 Rudi Johnson, RB, CIN

I was torn between several relatively equal, yet solid RB's. I do fear he may lose some carries this year, but I decided he was who I wanted. Why not one of the Jones brothers? I couldn't tell you. Rudi just seemed like the right guy at the right time.

 
18For I_AM_CANADIAN
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      ID: 481126818
      Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 11:38
1.14 Kevin Jones, RB, DET

Ah… 1st Round RB goodness. I just find there is a major sense of relief, by drafting a stud RB in the first round. From here on out, I'll probably be picking more for perceived value over a set draft strategy. KJ had an amazing end of rookie season for a BAD club. This year, Detroit's receiving core (WR & TE) is much improved and can probably expect to give him a little more room on the field. I had KJ bunched together with about 6 other RBs, so I was happy to still be able to land him here at #14. My strategy for drafting from the #14 was that if I couldn't secure LT, or SA... then I didn't want to be forced into taking Priest from #3... that... and as I already mentioned, I had a whole bunch of RBs valued very closely together.

 
19For Doug
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      Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 11:39
2.01 - Julius Jones, RB, DAL

Well, based on my top-25 overall I had a pretty good feeling that I'd be forced to go with an elite WR at my 2.11 pick, unless Lamont Jordan fell. He went at 2.04! From there on out, any RB would be a reach... at least in terms of value-based drafting. So the chance to secure a 2nd RB without having to reach was too good to pass up. I'll evaluate the price I paid in my 3.14 and 5.14 rationales.

I have Julius 10th on my RB sheet, and when I drafted him, #11-14 were already gone, so was very glad to get him. His second-half numbers last year were amazing. He had 3 big games against sub-par defenses, but even against Baltimore and Philly he had at least 80 yards. I expect his carries per game to drop from high-20s to low-20s, as they'll be trying to keep him fresh for 16 games instead of 7. Still, he clearly showed that last season's shoulder injury is a non-issue, and that he's going to put up some big games against lesser Ds. I'm not sure Dallas will be able to get him a ton of TDs, but he should be in the 10 range... and yardage-wise 1,500 (all-purpose) seems like a floor, not a ceiling. Love the upside potential here, but even without I feel very secure with my two RBs. This also means I can probably afford to wait a bit longer than usual to take my RB3, which could be a nice fringe benefit.

 
20For Ender
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      Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 11:40
2.02 Ahman Green, RB, GB

Wasn't this guy Top 5 material the last 3 years? How did he fall to me? I'm not picking on anyone as this seems to be the case in most of the mock drafts and rankings I look at as well. I'm happy to have him at this spot despite the fact that I'm not much of a Packer fan. They are on pretty much every week around here (Chicago, we hate them, but we still get their games) sp at least I'll have something to make it interesting.

 
21For Bandos
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      Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 11:40
2.03 Randy Moss, WR, OAK

Randy was a major reason for RQL #2. I would have taken Ahman Green here if Ender hadn't taken him ahead of me. Nonetheless, it is always good to have the best at his position, even if he is hard to root for. Capable of a few big games to help in a H2H situation.

 
22For leggestand
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      Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 11:41
2.04 LaMont Jordan, RB, OAK

Yikes. I took the 11th pick thinking that Culpepper would go between 1.12 and 2.03 and that one of these six players would fall to me: Barber, Rudi, Julius Jones, Kevin Jones, Ahman, Moss. None fell, and all of a sudden my draft strategy changed...should I trade down, should I take Culpepper, which RB should I take that I feel is a tier down after the aforementioned RB's, is any WR worth it here?

I pondered Culepper for a while, and just couldn't bring myself to do it. I thought that everyone would have two RB's by the time I got to 3.11, and looking at the group of RB's that would fall to me, I didn't think I could make Culpepper my pick ("un"fortunately, 3 RB's fell to me in the 3rd round that would of made taking Culpepper that right choice...ah, hindsight).

No WR's worth it for me here, and I didn't want to spend Friday night/Saturday morning trying to make a trade, so, I looked at the best RB's available:

1. CuMar: solid and reliable, but his age scared me.
2. Steven Jackson: Huge upside, but the backfield situation in St. Louis made me wary.
3. Westbrook: Thought about him seriously for a while. Even if he splits carries, he will play a prominent role in receiving for the Eagles.

4. LaMont Jordan: I decided on him. With my safe pick of Lewis, I thought I could take a pick with upside. Everything points to a solid season: good O-line, great coach for RB's (Norv), a great WR to take men out of the box, and little to no competition for carries. I believe he will do well, but I think I shored up my RB corps by taking Bennett in the 3rd round, so, I am not so worried about this pick anymore.

2nd Round thoughts (BTW, not trying to bust anyone's chops here, just my opinions before the games count):

Biggest Reach- LaMont Jordan at 2.04. Hate putting myself here, but I think it was a pick people thought would go later. I also think Dunn going at 2.09 was a little surprising. I think he may have lasted until the 3rd round.

Best "Discount" Pick - Marvin Harrison at 2.13. Arguably the best WR in the game. Starters of Harrison and Shaun Alexander gives two great picks to AG.

 
23For Taxman
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      ID: 481126818
      Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 11:42
2.05 Daunte Culpepper, QB, Min

Last year my RIBC success was driven almost entirely by Manning. Although a precipitous drop occurs after Manning, Culpepper and McNabb form the next ledge before dropping to QB's who can have a great game this week, but be shut down the following week.

McNabb has too many warts. #1 receiver, TO'$ history has been "pay me what I want or I will destroy your team" (didn't work for Duce either), #2 receiver gone for the year, zippo at tight end, etc etc.

By default Culpepper is the man ("painted in a corner" seems to apply again). His 2004 numbers were generated with Moss more of a decoy than threat (still, there IS only one Randy Moss) after 5th game. With the departure of Moss goes also the Moss circus...addition by subtraction. BTW, 2004 numbers were career bests for completions, attempts, yards, % completed, QB rating (110.9), TD's and tied his interception low butthrew 100 passes more.

Really, what's not to like.

 
24For GoatLocker
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      Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 11:43
2.06 Steven Jackson, RB, StL

I know I'm set in my ways, but really felt going in that I was going to take the two best RBs I could get.

Jackson finishes that up. I really expect him to have a big season and perform very well in the Rams big play offense. Expect him to catch more passes than some would expect. Gives me a good base to build from.

 
25For Kev
      Donor
      ID: 481126818
      Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 11:43
2.07 Curtis Martin, RB, NY Jets

With Culpepper off the board now, I felt there was too far a reach for any other QB at this point. I felt the same at WR, with Moss off the board. I felt after Martin and 1 or 2 other RB’s, like I said in round one, the drop off was going to hit. I did not want to be reaching in round 3 for my 2nd RB, so I took Martin here. Consistency vs. Age. I’m taking last years leading rusher with a mid 2nd round draft choice, and it is because he is old, and has a lot of miles on his legs. Here is hoping his legs hold up one more year. A healthy season is all I ask, because with that, I feel CMart’s numbers will be consistent like usual.

 
27Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 11:45
2.08 Brian Westbrook, RB, PHI
The upside of picking Manning in Round #1 is that I have Peyton Manning. The downside is that I have no RB yet. Four picks ago, I figured that my short list included Westbrook, Curtis Martin, Lamont Jordan, and Steven Jackson – in no particular order. Thankfully, Taxman took Culpepper, leaving Westbrook as the one remaining RB for me. Now I hope he stays healthy, motivated, and in camp – not necessarily in that order!

From the looks of my draft sheet, the RB position gets pretty thin for awhile now. Hopefully, that won’t deter the next 12 pickers from digging deeper into that realm, leaving me some good choices at other positions in round 3. But I'll bet we start to see a run on WRs very shortly.
 
28For BoNkA
      Donor
      ID: 481126818
      Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 11:45
2.09 Warrick Dunn, RB, ATL

I was really hoping Culpepper would drop to me here, but going at 2.05 it looks like that would never have happened. Once I saw him gone, I had my eyes on Westbrook until he was taken right infront of me. I was really stuck on what to do with this pick after that. Basically all of the remaining backs I had questions about, which varied from playing time to health issues to how they'd fair as a rookie. I also could have gone with a top WR, but didn't want to be stuck with an even worse RB option than what I could get with this pick.

So, out of the bunch, I decided to go with Dunn despite Duckett getting most of the goal line carries. Hopefully Vick is more adjusted to the west coast offense this year and forces defenses to not play the run and allow Dunn to put up numbers equal to or better than last years.

 
29For Motley Crue
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      ID: 481126818
      Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 11:46
2.10 Torry Holt, WR, STL

I was all set to take a RB or Culpepper here, but it didn't work out that way. The last RB I likely would have considered here was Dunn and he went to Bonka right before me.

I decided to switch gears and get the safest WR stud available. TO is doing to much pissing and moaning to be a very safe pick, for my taste. So Holt gets the nod. He's studly year in and out, and in my opinion this could be his best year ever. Bulger is healthy, knows the offense, and has a solid set of skill players surrounding him, so he's up for a big year. Holt ought to reap the benefits as the #1 receiving option on that team.

With my next pick I am toying with taking another WR. There just aren't any excellent RB's left and with 3 starting WR's required each week, having two great ones could put me at an advantage.

 
30For I_AM_CANADIAN
      Donor
      ID: 481126818
      Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 11:47
2.11 Chad Johnson, WR, CIN

I had moved down in the draft because I was hoping that either Rudi Johnson, or Tiki Barber would fall to 2.01… but neither did so Doug so kindly offered me to moved down 10 spots in this round in exchange for moving up 10 in rounds 3 & 5. Since I was heavily considering taking a WR with my 2nd pick anyway, and Chad being my 2nd choice in WRs for this season, just made this pick so much sweeter.

 
33Challenger
      Donor
      ID: 481126818
      Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 11:56
2.12 Carnell (Cadillac) Williams - RB, TB

To be honest this is a forced selection because of the number of running backs already selected. With each selected RB a groan came out of my mouth muttering each time that the #3 draft selection was the wrong position to draft. Through process of elimination of certain pacifics for my strategy that I look at, I decided to take a chance on the rookie.

Anchoring the Bucs backfield this season will be the rookie from Auburn Carnell "Cadillac" Williams. Williams is a 5'10", 217 pound back who runs a 4.51 40. For his size Williams is a tough runner with great vision and a magnificent ability to find the hole. From Rotoworld.

I was just bewildered and knew I had to select, hopefully, a quality 2nd RB, even if it was a rookie.
 
35Athletics Guy
      ID: 187351816
      Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 13:40
2.13 Marvin Harrison, WR, IND

It was surprising to see Marvin Harrison around this late in the 2nd round. I thought I would have to take my second RB here, but I couldn't pass on Harrison. There were only 2 picks til my 3rd round pick, so I could wait on that. Besides none of the RBs available really stood out.

Harrison's numbers took a significant drop last season, but I expect him to bounce back. I don't expect another 1,700 yard season from him, but I'm hoping his yardage improves to at least the 1200-1300 range. And he'll likely have another double-digit TD total being Peyton Manning's #1 option.
 
36Sludge
      ID: 14411118
      Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 14:34
2.14 Joe Horn, WR, NO
3.01 Terrell Owens, WR, Phi?

Of course, Owens should have been selected first, but I thought it appropriate to put Owens in round 3. Owens would be a solid 1st round pick in any league. Even with the premium on running backs, I'm actually surprised he made it this far. I knew that my 2nd and 3rd round picks would be wide receivers without any doubt, but I didn't forsee hating myself so much afterward. I don't typically like to make homer picks, especially being so intimately familiar with the Saints' ability to screw up on any given year, preseason expectations be damned. Horn has a new long-term contract under his belt, and I forsee him doing quite well. (I won't discuss any further due to the prohibition on discussing undrafted players.)

I once said that it would take a lot for me to draft Owens onto my fantasy team. Well, the perfect storm happened, and he fell into my lap. (I was really hoping midway through the second round that Harrison would fall to me as well. He almost did.) Barring a total mental collapse, he'll play for Philly, and post his usual stellar numbers. Of course, a total mental collapse can't be ruled out, which is why I believe he fell so far. But I couldn't, in good conscience, let a top-flight wide receiver pass by in return for a mid-tier (at best) running back.
 
37Athletics Guy
      ID: 187351816
      Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 14:36
3.02 Tatum Bell, RB, DEN

This was a difficult decision for me. It came down to either taking Donovan McNabb or my second RB. I ended up passing on McNabb because I just didn't think he would be that much better than a QB I could get in a later round. He would basically have to have another 30 TD season to be worthy of this pick. I just don't see that happening, especially with the whole Terrell Owens fiasco. He's also missing several key offensive weapons from last season which makes him less valuable in my eyes. And I won't even get into the Madden curse...

So, I turned my attention towards the RBs. I considered Fred Taylor and Kevan Barlow here. Taylor's injury problems were just too risky for me at this point in the draft. And I still remember Barlow from some of my fantasy teams last season (Ugh!). Tatum Bell is somewhat of an unproven player, with only 75 carries. But he was still very impressive, averaging 5.3 yards per carry. I'm confident he'll be the starting tailback in Denver. And I'm also confident Mike Shanahan will make a stud out of him, as he has done with many of Denver's past running backs.
 
38Challenger
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      ID: 481126818
      Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 15:07
3.03 Tony Gonzalez, TE, KC

When Owens & Harrison went I had to decide between Javon Walker, McNabb, or Gonzo. I honestly didn't think Gonzo would still be around even though most cheat sheets have him going somewhere near this draft slot. Since I struggled severely last year at trying to find a TE after missing the TE boat, I made it a priority to take one of the top 3 TE's this year. With Gates still holding out at the time of this selection, I went with the TE who has been either #1 or #2 TE the last 6 years. The last of my top 3 I can't mentioned since as of this writing he hasn't been drafted.
 
39I_AM_CANADIAN
      ID: 34743414
      Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 15:27
3.04 Donovan McNabb, QB, PHI
I really wasn't planning on taking a QB here at all. Mainly because of the depth of talent available. I was actually wanting to go with another Top 5 WR if they were still avail. That wasn't the case however, and I felt their was significant seperation between Donovan and the next tier down. His receiving crew might be a little weeker this year than last, but it is probably getting a little less respect than they deserve right now. He still has TO, (**Not Drafted**), and Westbrooke as dependable solutions to throw to. TO's pre-season antics just might have gotten me some good value here!
 
40Motley Crue
      ID: 33741217
      Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 16:21
3.05 Reggie Wayne, WR, IND

As my strategy changed midstream, I decided to go for a big splash at the WR position this year. They are usually less consistent than RB's, but since we have to start 3, I decided to get 2 Top 10 guys and hope that separates me enough from opponents to be succesful. I think this will be the year Wayne outscores Harrison in fantasy points. He came close last year, but Marvin scored more TD's. Wayne is clearly the WR of the future in Indy. My gamble--ignoring guys like Javon Walker and Darrell Jackson--could pay off if the future is now.
 
41BoNkA
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 16:53
3.06 Javon Walker, WR, GB

After drafting two running backs, my next concern was getting a wide receiver. I didn't bother with a QB because I can get one in a later round that will put up similar numbers to anyone available here. Since this was my plan, it was an easy decision as Walker was on the top of my list for the remaining WR.

 
42Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 16:54
3.07 Andre Johnson, WR, Hou

I didn’t like any of the running backs at this point of the draft. If Tony Gonzalez had been available, I'd have taken him here. If Antonio Gates' situation had been more settled, I might have taken him. But instead, I decided to go with a solid WR. My short list for this pick included Javon Walker, Nate Burleson, and Darrell Jackson, as well as Johnson. Walker was taken immediately before, and the other two were gone within a few picks after. I would have gone with Walker if he was still there, but I think Johnson (or any of the four) should put up similar numbers.

 
43kev
      Donor
      ID: 043111845
      Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 17:04
3.08 Darrell Jackson, WR, Seattle
This pick took me awhile to decide on. The 2 guys on my list had just been nabbed, surprisingly, right before I picked in Andre Johnson and Javon Walker. This left me with the choice to add a 3rd RB, leaving me set there, but short elsewhere, take the QB I was eyeing now, or a WR. I decided to risk my QB slipping to me in round 4, and took Darrell Jackson. Jackson, as much as he dropped balls last year, still put up good fantasy numbers. This year, with Koren Robinson out of the picture, DJax is the #1 option in the Seattle passing game. Teams have to respect Seattle’s running threat in Alexander, and I think that sets Jackson up in a lot of man to man coverage. I feel, much like Curtis Martin, that Jackson will put up consistent, non mind blowing numbers over the year.
 
44GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 060151121
      Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 17:30
3.09 JJ Arrington, RB, Ari
Stayed within strategy and picked up the third running back.
Had him ranked at the top as far as fantasy points this year from the group of four.

Really, really like his upside and expect a lot out of him this season for the Cards.

Was tempted by Drew Bennett and Nate Burlson, but stayed the course.

Allowed me to then come back WR / WR for the next two picks.
 
45Taxman
      SuperDude
      ID: 029463114
      Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 21:20
3.10 Nate Burleson, WR, MIN

Burleson is a entering his 3rd year, which historically is the year that stud receivers break out. He actually broke out last year with 1000 yrds and 11 TDs as the number two receiver. With Moss taking Bart across the Bay from Haight & Asbury Street tobacco shops, Burleson becomes Culpeppers primary, and with his speed, hands & route running ability, a 1500 yrd, 15 TD season is far more likely than Andy Reid inviting TO over to listen to his Aretha Franklin 45 RPM recording of Respect.

Burleson is my sleeper WR pick to jump from very respectable, to Elite status in 2005. The worst he does is repeat last years (very acceptable) numbers.
 
46for leggestand
      Sustainer
      ID: 279492419
      Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 07:56
3.11 Michael Bennett, RB, MIN

I figured there would be a WR run infront of me, but sheesh, not one of my long list of WR's made it back to me at 3.11. I honestly thought I had a shot at Andre Johnson, Darrell Jackson, Gonzo, or Wayne. I checked in at 3.08 and they were all gone already! So, then I told myself I would "settle" for Burleson, and that he would definitely make it to me. He went at 3.10. Three teams went through the 3rd round without taking their 2nd back, so, that's what threw me for a loop.

So, I had to change gears. Do I go QB? I thought that I could get either Vick or Green on the way back up, so, I decide that wasn't the play. Do I go TE and get Gates? I would of if Gates showed up Saturday to practice. Then, I thought, "well, if 3 WR's went before I thought they would, what 3 players fell to me?" It was Fred Taylor, Michael Bennett, and Deshaun Foster.

I don't like adding a bench player (3rd RB) as early as the 3rd round, but I couldn't justify any other pick. I took Bennett as a huge upside pick, because if he can play to his "potential" I have good trade value at RB, and can possibly get one of the WR's I targeted that didn't fall to me in the 3rd round. I didn't think I had that same upside with Taylor or Foster, although I thought long and hard on Foster because he certainly has upside. If I only had RB at this pick, I probably would of drafted Taylor because he is the safest.

Looking back at it, I wish I drafted Jamal Lewis, Culpepper, then Taylor. But I really didn't think I would have the RB's available at 3.11.

3rd round thoughts:

Best value picks - Arrington, Bennett, and Taylor towards the back of the 3rd round. I targeted at least two of those going before 3.07.

Biggest surprise - Tatum Bell at 3.02. I have no idea how things are going to shake out in Denver, so, Bell was rated similar to the aforementioned RB's on my sheets. AG, made a good pick later with Barlow (5.02), though, to make sure if Bell falls through, he will have it covered.

 
47Bandos
      Sustainer
      ID: 279492419
      Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 07:58
3.12 Fred Taylor, RB, JAX

I do not know if he has anything left in the tank, and he is injury prone but when healthy he can be a consistent contributor. He will require careful monitoring but seemed the best of the RB's left.
 
48Ender
      Donor
      ID: 013443221
      Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 09:09
3.13 Drew Bennett, WR, TEN

I had many options in this slot, but had at least made up my mind to go with a WR since I had grabbed RB in the first 2 rounds. I almost went with Steve Smith, but I thought he'd come back around to me. That was foolish :( I'm happy with Bennett. He was good to me last year and I like his size and the way he plays the game.
 
49Doug
      Leader
      ID: 02730280
      Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 10:17
3.14 – Steve Smith, WR, CAR
Obviously I’m looking for a return to his 2003 form... 1000+ yards and 7+ TDs. There are many receivers in that statistical mold available in rounds 3 and 4... but when I added in my guesstimate of 300 Punt Return yards for Smith, he leapfrogged well up into the top-10 WRs on my board (actually to #6, and I got him as #13). I briefly considered Ward, in part because he exemplifies the best of what football is about... but I just don’t know how much PIT will throw which limits Ward’s upside, and in the end I just couldn’t pass up Smith’s punt return yards (which might also add a TD or two to his total). Besides, like Ward, Smith is a gritty, tough SOB who isn’t afraid to go over the middle. I flat out love how he plays.

Unfortunately, therein lies the rub... the primary risk for Smith is that he gets injured again, and he does take a lot of punishment going over the middle with his small frame.

As for the trade... when I moved down from 3.04 for this pick, I was pretty hopeful that I’d wind up with either Smith or Gates. Both were on the board when my pick came up, and I probably would have gone for Gates if it hadn’t been for his holdout situation. I don’t think it’ll be a big deal and he might even have the suspension lifted... but it was enough to tip the scales in Smith’s favor. Furthermore, I thought there was more chance of getting TE “deals” further down the line, and so I’d just wait for the right time.

If I had held onto 3.04 I was contemplating Gonzo... but when he got drafted at 3.03 I felt even better about the trade I made, as I essentially didn’t have to give anything up this round... Smith was the best WR on my board at 3.04, and was still available 3.14.
 
50I_AM_CANADIAN
      ID: 3579513
      Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 10:50
4.01 Ronnie Brown, RB, MIA

The most talented back from this years rookie draft slides into the 4th Round? Hey I'm not complaining. I guess Ricky situation has some managers a little more worried than me? According to his ADP this is just past where he should have probably went, although I would have thought that since his signing that would have bumped him up a little? Another player who I was considering with this pick: (who was available) Antonio Gates. It will be interesting to look back on this mid-season and see how that worked out? I got Witten with my next pick... so... so far so good.

 
51Ender
      Donor
      ID: 013443221
      Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 11:56
4.02 Hines Ward, WR, PIT

I had toyed with taking Ward the pick before and didn't. I was set on taking Ronnie Brown with this pick, but that plan was destroyed by IAC. So I went with one of the players I most respect in the league. I know the holdout and Pittsburgh's run game have dropped his value, but honestly, I can't believe he was still on the board. When Brown went, I had to take Ward. Besides, how often do you get a guy with a field named after him? ;)
 
52Bandos
      Sustainer
      ID: 279492419
      Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 12:01
4.03 Michael Vick, QB, ATL

If he is gonna acheive the consistency to be a top tier QB, maybe this is the year. I had him last year and was very pleased for those monster games - just too many way too subpar ones. Another upside pick with some rooting interest as I love watching him play.
 
53leggestand
      Leader
      ID: 451036518
      Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 12:22
4.04 Trent Green, QB, KC

I don't normally like taking QB's this early, but Green was the only remaining QB in my top 5, and I knew he wouldn't make it back to me if I waited until the next round. He never has WR's, but he always puts up numbers, as evidenced by him being 2nd in the league in passing yards in 2004. I was worried that if I waited until the 5th or 6th round for a QB, I would get more of an unsure thing, and have to back it up with another QB pick in the next 3 rounds. I prefer to not have to worry about a 2nd quarterback for the next 7+ rounds.

Who I targeted for this pick: Vick, Hines Ward
Who I almost took: Gates, Foster (it would of given me a 4th RB through 4 rounds, but I couldn't believe he was still out there)

4th round thoughts:
Best pick - DeShaun Foster at 4.05 or Gates at 4.08
Surprise Pick - Really none, but I am going to force myself to choose every round, so, Anquan Boldin at 4.11. I thought he would drop further.
 
54for Taxman
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 15:58
4.05 DeShaun Foster RB, CAR

Foster fills the roster gap I currently have at RB, having taken Culpepper with my 2nd round pick and reached for a WR 3rd round pick. Foster has deservedly carried the label of "talented, but fragile" and he enters the sesaon as a solid #2 fantasy back as the undisputed go to guy for Carolina's rushing attack. If he stays healthy he is a 1400 yrd, 8 TD back and is an absolute steal in the 4th round. My glee with this pick is tempored by the truism: history (too often)repeats itself. Look no further than the Texas Ranger pitching staff.

 
55for GoatLocker
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 15:58
4.06 Roy Williams, WR, Det
After three RBs in a row, was time to go get a WR.
I really like the upside to Williams and forsee him having a big year.
Had him rated as the #13 WR, so was really happy to get him as the 48th pick overall.

Only possible downside is the QB for Det, but still liked him better than other options.
 
56for Kev
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 15:59
4.07 Kerry Collins, QB, Oakland Raiders

The one good thing about missing out on Peyton Manning and Daunte Culpepper, was I was able to get the QB I think will be closest to them point wise, 2 rounds later. After Walker and Johnson went off the board, I was about to take Collins in round 3. I decided to gamble and see if he would fall, and he did. With his big arm, and the new additions of Randy Moss and Lamont Jordan, the Raiders offense is stacked. On the other side of the ball, their defense is pitiful. Combine these 2 things, and I think you will see Collins have over 4000 yards and 30 TD’s. Will there be many INT’s to go along with it? Probably, but as long as he doesn’t quit on his team, I’m happy with my pick.

 
57Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 16:00
4.08 Antonio Gates, TE, SD

I had to stew over this one for awhile. Gates missed his team-imposed reporting deadline, and will presumably miss the rest of the preseason games as well as the opening regular season game. But the latest news is that he will report to the Chargers camp today. If so, I think he's still a good value pick here. But if he holds out longer, I might have jumped too early.

I looked at the top RB available, and couldn't get comfortable with either durability or RBBC issues. The top WRs look pretty bunched together right now. Michael Clayton is the tops on my list, but I think I can get someone similar next round. And IDP can wait.

Hopefully, Gates won’t miss more than one game, and will then produce numbers like he did last year. If so, I think the pick makes sense here. But is the risk too great for a 4th round pick? Tough call, but I'll go with my gut on this one.
 
58For BoNkA
      Dude
      ID: 439372011
      Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 16:21
4.09 Michael Clayton, WR, TB

I was looking to get Kerry Collins here, but with him going 2 picks infront of me, I decided to switch up and go with a WR instead as I didn't see a dire need for a QB. I was basically deciding between Clayton, Coles, and Chambers. I think Coles has a good chance of putting up the best numbers out of those three, but I went with Clayton based off last year's performance.

 
59Motley Crue
      Dude
      ID: 439372011
      Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 16:22
4.10 Marc Bulger, QB, STL
I saw that the guys coming up in front of me all lacked QB’s and I figured if I really wanted Bulger I had better take him here. I figured right as several other QB’s went immediately after. The plan was then to get either Chris Brown or Kevan Barlow for my second RB 9 picks later. Well that plan got shot down, but I am still looking forward to trotting out Holt and Wayne for 12 weeks of the regular season. And of course, taking those 2 early put me in this position

Bulger is in his prime right now. He’s gotten better every year, and he really ought to know the Rams’ offense by now. I think Steven Jackson taking over at RB will make the offense that much better. He has always been a good QB but I think this season he steps into Trent Green/Donovan McNabb territory.

I am spreading talent around at multiple positions this year. I hope it helps me compete a little better earlier in the season. Last season I put all of my eggs in 2 baskets and they were unceremoniously turned into pigskin omelets. Looking for a little better start this season.
 
60Doug
      Leader
      ID: 02730280
      Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 17:07
4.11 – Anquan Boldin, WR, ARI
I compared between Boldin and Driver and felt more secure in Boldin. I read a lot about him and while there are a few risks here and there, an improved QB in Warner and being in a Dennis Green system seemed to mitigate those concerns. And even though he didn’t play a full season, his 2004 per game numbers showed that 2003 was not a fluke. Like Steve Smith, I’m expecting 1000+ yards and 7+ TDs from him... the difference being Boldin has a bit more upside on the receiving front, but doesn’t get the punt return bonus that vaulted Smith up so high in my rankings. Basically he’s another WR with upside who may be slightly undervalued because he’s coming off an injury. I’m not a big fan of fantasy football lore like this, but FWIW he is a 3rd year wideout. I’ll hope the breakout prediction holds true in this case. =-)

On the strategy front, I did consider going TE with Witten here, but with my next pick was a bit over a round away and there were 8 picks coming up from teams who had 0 or 1 WRs so far [postscript: and sure enough 4 WRs in a row came off the board late in round 5], so I wanted to make sure to grabbed a good WR value now and not reach later, similar to my thoughts on trading up for Julius. In this case, it was probably a wash.

Looking ahead, I felt the stud defensive players were already starting to hold more value than the offensive players at this point, and that gap was likely to peak in the next round or two, which is when I’d try to cherry pick the best that defense has to offer.

I feel really good having 2 stellar RBs and 2 solid WRs at this point in the draft, and it’s conceivable that all 4 of them could wind up at the top-10 in their respective positions.
 
61Challenger
      Donor
      ID: 481126818
      Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 17:43
4.12 Chris Brown, RB, Ten

With the RB pool depleting quickly, I thought it was time to draft a quality backup/option, something I didn't do last year.

Due to a lingering turf toe injury, last year Brown missed 5 full games along with at least the 2nd half of 4 others, IIRC, while yet he still managed 1067 rushing yards. Quality numbers considering his limited playing time, thus this year I hoping for about the same numbers considering it appears he will be sharing some of his duties with ________.
 
62Athletics Guy
      ID: 187351816
      Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 17:54
4.13 Laveranues Coles, WR, NYJ

I was a bit tempted to add some depth and take Barlow here as my 3rd RB. But I thought it would serve my team better to have another receiver. The list of receivers available was starting to dwindle down to either #1 receivers on bad teams or good #2's. Laveranues Coles looked to be the best available.

Coles should become a huge factor in the fantasy football world once again now that he's reunited with the Jets. Whatever they were doing with him in Washington last season just didn't work. Perhaps it was the QB situation. Either way, Coles is much too talented to have another sub-1,000 yard season.
 
63Sludge
      ID: 187351816
      Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 18:26
4.14/5.01 Placeholder
 
64Athletics Guy
      ID: 187351816
      Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 18:27
5.02 Kevan Barlow, RB, SF

Well, this is weird. For the past 2 rounds, I've considered selecting Barlow, but I just couldn't pull the trigger. I'm really glad I didn't get him in round 3 now, since nobody else seemed to want him during all this time. Barlow does have a lot of things going against him. He's coming off a disappointing season. The 49ers offensive line has a lot of problems. Their defense is terrible too, so there will be times where they will be forced to give up on the running game.

So, exactly why did I pick him? Depth. You can never have too much depth at the RB position. With Barlow, my team will have at least 2 starting RBs every week in case my other guys are out with injuries, lose playing time, or simply having bye weeks. Even if I were to just play Barlow during Bell and Alexander's bye weeks, that's 4 matchups with this league setup. So, he could be quite useful. As for Barlow's production, I think he still has a good chance at a 1,000 rushing yard season, simply because he'll get a lot of touches. SF has a young & inexperienced QB, so Barlow could get a heavier workload to take the pressure off of his quarterback.
 
65Sludge
      ID: 14411118
      Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 18:28
4.14 Jerome Bettis, RB, Pit
5.01 Brett Favre, QB, GB

Well, after drafting two WR in rounds 2 and 3, I knew I'd have to get a 2nd RB as I figured half the league would add their 3rd RB between my two sets of picks. I'm not enamored with Bettis by any stretch of the imagination, but he's Pittsburgh's goalline back. I don't expect much in the way of yardage, but I do believe he'll score more TDs than Staley.

Brett Favre is the iron man. I've read that he's coming into this season healthier than in the past, so that's a good thing if true. I actually had Plummer slightly ahead of Favre, but Favre is easier to root for.

Two old timers that could make or break my season, but such is life.
 
66Challenger
      Donor
      ID: 481126818
      Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 19:09
5.03 Jake Plummer, QB, Den

Thinking the draft might turn to QB, I thought I would jump in there and try to take my choice of the middle tier QB's. Unfortunately, none of the jumped out at me, either due to low yardage, low td's, or high int's all hit me as no-no's.

Jake threw for 27 td's last year, but had 20 int's. However, with Plummer throwing for over 4000 yds I think that's worth a few extra points. Here's hoping Plummer throws less int's.
 
67I_AM_CANADIAN
      ID: 34743414
      Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 20:30
5.04 Jason Witten, TE, DAL
This is the last "upgraded" pick left from the trade w/Doug. I love how I go into a draft with a set plan… and after my first pick goes off… all bets are off! What am I doing taking a TE in the 5th round who's name isn't Gonzalez, or Gates? I blame it on Tier'ing and how well the managers in this division are drafting. I was really hoping that Barlow was going to slide into this spot, but so is life. Not much to say about Witten 980yds and 6TD's last year. Nothing to shake a stick at. He is a much "safer" studd TE than many of the other ones out their.
 
69Motley Crue
      ID: 33741217
      Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 21:35
5.05 Thomas Jones, RB, CHI
As I mentioned, the guys I was looking at for Round 5 (Chris Brown, Barlow) were swiped out from under me before I could get either. So I elected to go with what I felt was the best starter who produced above average fantasy statistics last season. I don’t have a lot of good things to say about TJ, except that he is the starter. I have no rosy projections. I prayed that Cedric Benson’s name might somehow not be called over the course of the next 18 picks. Thanks to BonkA, I was able to stop worrying about that rather swiftly. : \

So all I need is for Benson never to sign a contract, and [Undrafted Player] to have one of the greatest season a Bears QB has ever had, and I will be fine!

1375 total yards and 7 TD’s last season. Here’s to him doing that again.
 
70BoNkA
      ID: 407172221
      Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 22:17
5.06 Cedric Benson, RB, CHI
Wanted to get a backup RB with the choices slimming every pick. Benson is definitely a risky pick, not yet having a contract and Jones there already. I don't really have much to say about it other than I hope he signs and has a good season.
 
71Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 22:30
5.07 Donald Driver, WR, GB
Every other team has at least two running backs now (and 5 teams already have three). But I have only one. Still too early to panic. And, as John Kerry would have said, "I have a plan…" Maybe a stupid plan, but a plan nonetheless.

So I go after a second WR instead. Driver has been at the top of my list for about a half-round, and I'm happy to have the Packers' #2 receiver as my #2 receiver.
 
72kev
      Donor
      ID: 043111845
      Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 22:31
5.08 Larry Fitzgerald, WR, Arizona Cardinals
Lots of mid range WR’s out there right now. I had Larry and a couple other WR’s all ranked similarly. The reason I picked Fitzgerald out of group, is because I think he is due for a much better year than his rookie numbers, which were still good. In my mind, what held him back year, was the injury to Boldin, bringing more double teams to his side, and lack of a quality starting QB. With Boldin healthy, and Kurt Warner now throwing him balls, I see a big year in his sophomore season.
 
73GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 060151121
      Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 23:02
5.09 Deion Branch, WR, NE
Keeping with my strategy, this pick was the best WR left on my board.
Think he has a ton of upside and of course he has T. Brady getting the ball to him.
Don't see New England slowing down at all, which makes him a better choice in my mind than some of the other WR that were currently available.
 
74for Taxman
      Sustainer
      ID: 279492419
      Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 00:51
5.10 Isaac Bruce, WR, STL

I see Bruce as my best value pick through the first five rounds. Bruce has been a steady yardage producer though out his career, which seems like it started in the days of leather helmets. No longer a down field burner, he will be the thunder to Holt's lightening. A great route runner that can find the hole in a zone and retains the quickness to get separation in man, he should again post 1200 yrd, 6 TD numbers.

 
75for leggestand
      Sustainer
      ID: 279492419
      Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 00:51
5.11 Alge Crumpler, TE, ATL

This was a pick by phone call with Doug, and 5 minutes after I made it, I prayed that it wasn't a mistake and wouldn't mess up my 6th round pick.

I wanted a WR here, and my short list was Driver, Branch, Fitgerald, and Bruce. All four went right before my pick. I had no WR's on my team, but couldn't think of what other WR I wanted at this spot (I also didn't have time to steal away from the inlaws and look at my draft sheets). I knew I wanted a TE with my 6th round pick, and I knew I could wait for Crumpler, Heap, or Dallas Clark to come back around to me. I instead just took Crumpler, and then once I realized I could miss out on my next set of WR's (primarily Jimmy Smith and Chambers), I hoped one of them would fall to me. Luckily, Chambers fell, so, I am not stressed any more about it.

So, about Crumpler. He's Vick's favorite target and is just a beast of a man. I expect around 50 yards/game and 8 TD's. Not Gates/Gonzo numbers, but he shouldn't be behind many other TE's.

5th round thoughts:

Best Values: Barlow at 5.02, Thomas Jones at 5.05

Biggest surprise: I honestly can't find one. I don't think anyone "overpaid" for their picks.

 
77Bandos
      Sustainer
      ID: 279492419
      Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 00:53
5.12 Todd Heap, TE, BAL

Kinda feel like I was at the wrong end of a mini-TE run but I like having a TE who is a real threat and puts up consistent points. Heap fits the bill. When healthy he is as good as any TE in the game not named Gonzalez. After mostly safe picks in Barber, Taylor, Moss and Vick, I begin to see if I can find some value. I was tempted by Porter here but having both Oak guys was a bit of a put off. Also considered some others who strangely haven’t been drafted and Ricky, who I was hoping would fall to 7.11 – no such luck.
 
78Ender
      ID: 406351010
      Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 01:03
5.13 Duce Staley, RB, PIT

I weighed my options and felt like it was the right time to get my 3rd RB. Duce is dainged up a bit, but when isn't he? I'm really only counting on him to start twice for me (which makes me wonder why I'm taking him in round 5 unless you look around and see how many others had 3 RB's already too). He was the only unquestioned starter left on the board according to my notes so I grabbed him while I could. He'll lose TD's to Bettis, but that's less a probelm on bye week starts than it is over the long hall IMO.
 
79for Doug
      ID: 34743414
      Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 01:05
5.14 – Ray Lewis, LB, BAL

I went into this draft knowing I wanted to get a top-4 LB and a top-8 TE. I was figuring to get one or both of them in round 5 or 6 if I somehow didn't get Gates or Gonzo (which I didn't)... and moving from 5.04 to 5.14 didn’t seem like it was going to change my choices very much (not a lot of focus on LB or TE at this point)... so the price I paid for Julius was essentially nothing. As it turns out, I made the first defensive pick of the draft, and got the pick of the litter. Nothing more needs to be said than “Ray Lewis”.

If I had kept 5.04, I would have taken Witten... which is exactly what IAC did with my pick!!! That left Shockey, Crumpler, Clark, Heap, and McMichael before the dropoff in my TE rankings. Crumpler and Heap went, but the other three were still available, so I figured I could wait and grab one at 6.11 or 7.04. They all have pros and cons, and I didn’t heavily favor one of them over another.

 
80I_AM_CANADIAN
      ID: 34743414
      Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 01:06
6.01 Jimmy Smith, WR, JAX
Not really much to say about this pick. Was looking for a WR, and he's the #1 Target in an improving offense that has promised to go more "vertical" this year. Age is a slight concern, but he's been pretty consistent over the years, and hasn't had to deal with much injury wise.
 
81Ender
      ID: 406351010
      Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 01:18
6.02 Ashley Lelie WR DEN

I decided to let the QB's sort themselves out for me at this point and ppick up a 3rd WR. I could just as easily gone the other way around I suppose. As far as the specific pick, I simply think it is Lelie's year to take over as Denver's #1 fantasy WR (I realize I am not alone). I figure that's good enough to be my #3 WR. Time will tell whether this is the tipping point in my draft. I suspect it may be dpepending how my as yet to be selected QB performs.
 
82for Bandos
      SuperDude
      ID: 029463114
      Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 09:51
6.03 New England, DEF

I tried to trade this pick as I had NE D targeted for a late 6th round pick. Undaunted by reaching a bit, I like a plug and play D as it frees up a roster spot. NE fits the bill. Hell, I would even start them against Indy. I knew that NE and BAL would be gone by 7.11 – these two are considerably above the pack of about 9 that are very similar. Bill is the master and the fan in me wanted to get doubly excited every time they stymied another opponent or forced Manning into 4 picks. I considered a WR and Suggs here. Was very happy that Suggs fell to me at 7.11.

 
83for Leggestand
      SuperDude
      ID: 029463114
      Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 09:52
6.04 Chris Chambers, WR, MIA

Like I said in my Crumpler rationale, if Chambers didn't fall to me here, I would of been upset with my drafting.

Through 5 rounds, I still didn't have a WR; it seemed like the WR's I targeted each round would go right before my pick, so, I just kept holding off. Well, I figured I needed to start with a solid WR by round 6: and took Chambers. He never has a good QB throwing him the ball, but he always puts up good numbers. In 2004, Chambers was good for 900 yds and 7 TD's, and he had no running game.

In 2003, when he had a running game, he put up 960 yards and 11 TD's. With the running game improved in 2005, I expect over 1000 yards and 10 TD's. Not bad for a 6th round pick.

Other people I debated on taking: Muhammed, Mason, Burress (who I got 20 picks later)

6th round thoughts:

Best Values: Jimmy Smith, Mason, Muhammed, and Chambers. All are the un-questioned, good #1 WR's for their teams and should not suffer too much just because of lack of solid QB's.

Biggest surprise: New England D at 6.03. I wasn't expecting them to go as the 1st defense off the board or go that early.

 
85Taxman
      SuperDude
      ID: 029463114
      Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 10:14
6.05 Donnie Edwards, LB, SDG

Needing a 3rd RB or WR, a TE and a 2nd QB, this is a killer spot to pick up the games top unknown LB. His athleticsm and speed have kept him among the LB leaders in tackles, interceptions and passes defensed leaders the past 3 years. The noticable hole in Edwards game is low sack production. It is not likely an Edwards game will individually win a fantasy game any week during the season, however his steady production will be enjoyed.

More thoughts about this pick: (1) I have always taken premium players off the board in lieu of taking flyers on back-ups and committee positions and (2) currently there remains a number of quality WR's on the board.
 
86GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 060151121
      Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 15:40
6.06 Lee Evans, WR, Buf
Sticking with the plan and taking a Wide Receiver.
I really, really like his upside.
He had a great end of the season last year and I fully expect that to roll over to this year.

Hopefully he'll be Losman's favorite target.
 
87for Kev
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 16:03
6.07 Marshall Faulk, RB, St Louis Rams

I felt at this point, RB’s with any sort of playing time were running thin. I wanted my 3rd RB to have some sort of value, so I decided to take Faulk here. As much as Steven Jackson is going to take more carries, I see Martz still using Faulk a lot- as a 3rd WR in some sets, and also as a 3rd down RB. If Steven Jackson struggles, I also see Martz putting Faulk in. He isn’t the old Marshall, but in the 6th round, and being my 3rd RB, I don’t need him to be.

 
88Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 16:04
6.08 Larry Johnson, RB, KC

I tried to find another player to pick, but failed.

I thought hard about an IDP, as some of them were currently atop my ranking list. But it just seemed too early to be jumping in there yet. Perhaps round 7 or 8.

I considered a third WR, but the dropoff over the next half dozen isn’t very severe. I could wait until the 7th round and get similar value (unless I take an IDP in round 7).

I considered a team defense – maybe Baltimore. But while it would have been comforting to have one of the premier defenses, this seemed too early again. I'm probably better off taking a defense much later.

Then there was still that glaring deficiency at RB, where Brian Westbrook is currently alone in my backfield. While Larry Johnson is not the starter on KC, he showed last year that he can step in nicely if Priest goes down, and I suspect he'll get a decent number of carries even with Priest healthy. And, of course, there's always that upside potential that Challenger dreads…

 
89BoNkA
      ID: 487452315
      Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 16:45
6.09 Jeremy Shockey, TE, NYG
I figured a run on the better TEs would start and wanted to grab one before they were gone. Shockey was on the top of my list of those remaining, as long as he stays healthy and Manning doesn't stink it up. I figure even if Manning does have a bad year, Shockey should be his safety valve and will be dumping a lot of passes to him.
 
90Motley Crue
      ID: 33741217
      Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 17:00
6.10 Mike Anderson, RB, DEN

Did I just draft Denver’s starting tailback in the 6th round? Everyone knows that the Broncos churn out 1,000-yard-backs like Ben Affleck does expensive Hollywood clunkers. If Anderson, who is #1 on the Denver depth chart, stays there for at least half the season, this pick is worth the price. I honestly wanted to wait until the 9th round or so to take him, but the more I thought about it, the more I realized
A. Tatum Bell has demonstrated a slight history of injury.
B. Mike Anderson has demonstrated a strong history of success.
And yes, I backed myself into a corner by not taking a second RB until round 5. Guru and I have similar plans obviously.

However, I might have drafted Denver’s starting tailback in the 6th round.

 
91Doug
      Leader
      ID: 02730280
      Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 17:14
6.11 – Dallas Clark, TE, IND
I felt the best values at this pick were LB, D/ST, and TE. However, I felt there was a much larger dropoff from here at the TE position compared to D/ST or LB, so I decided to go TE first.

I had 2 top LBs left, and figured at least one would be left at 7.04 anyway, so they were out. Baltimore I feared might come off the board around the turn, but (a) team defense is about the easiest position to play “matchup” with, and (b) I’m not thrilled with Baltimore’s games during the fantasy playoffs (@DEN, GB, MIN).

On that note, I did a bit more research at TE and read that McMichael has a history of falling off production-wise in the second half of the season, thus knocking him down a peg on my chart. By comparison, anyone on the IND offense has incredible upside as long as Peyton is healthy, thus the only downside risk with Clark is injury.

I had passed on Gates at 3.14, passed on Witten at 4.11, passed on Shockey at 5.14... he was head and shoulders above the remaining TEs on my board, so it was definitely time to grab Clark while I could. In the end, this pick felt like a no-brainer, but I had to think a lot more about this pick than I did any other thus far in the draft in order to come to my conclusion.
 
92Challenger
      Donor
      ID: 481126818
      Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 18:29
6.12 Derrick Mason, WR, Balt

Time to finally add a WR! Right? Wrong! I just discovered that my bk/up RB has the same bye week as one of my starters. GRRRR! So it's my turn to pick and now I have to start researching RB's again. Getting tiresome! After much research I land on Ricky Williams. Think he'll be there after 4 more picks? Let's find out.

WR time and I decide on Rod Smith. Nooo!! He has the same bye week as my QB, his QB, Jake. Quickly slide over to Mason.

Over the past 3 years with [Undrafted Player] and the Titans, Mason has averaged 90 receptions and 1161 yards. The Ravens are high on adding a passing game to their potent running game. Taking the gamble that Mason and the Ravens are good for each other.
 
93Athletics Guy
      ID: 187351816
      Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 18:46
6.13 Baltimore Ravens Defense

Donnie Edwards was supposed to be my selection here. Unfortunately, Taxman took him earlier in the round. With Edwards and Ray Lewis off the board, I didn't see any reason to take a defensive player at this point.

Baltimore's defense looked like a good value pick though. I had them ranked #1 on my list of team defenses. I felt most managers were comfortable with their QB/RB/WR spots by now. The draft would soon shift more towards team defenses and individual defensive players, and I had no idea what was going to be around at the end of round 8 for me (I'm saving my 7th pick for a QB). So, the decision to take the NFL's best defense (IMO) was an easy one.
 
94Sludge
      ID: 14411118
      Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 19:04
6.14 Muhsin Muhammad, WR, Chi
7.01 Randy McMichael, TE, Mia

Hmm... I'm not particularly in love with Muhammad, mostly because he plays for Chicago. But he's a great talent, and will get his touches, I expect. For the position in the draft I got him at, I feel he's a really good value.

McMichael is a big question mark for me. With Saban in as the new coach (damn you!), I don't know how much Randy will be used in the offense. I don't know if the Miami QB situation will get much better. I didn't pay attention to his bye week, which is the same as Muhammad and Bettis. In short, I don't know if this is a good pick at this spot or not. I probably should have gone with a top-notch LB at this spot.
 
95Athletics Guy
      ID: 187351816
      Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 19:22
7.02 Tom Brady, QB, NE

I was 1 of 5 managers still without a QB, so it was about time I picked one up. It came down to either Tom Brady, Matt Hasselbeck, or Aaron Brooks. Thanks to Doug, I remembered my bye week situation this time. Hasselbeck would have been my 3rd starter with a week 8 bye, and I didn't want that. As for Brooks, his high number of interceptions (with the exception of 2003) scared me off. Brady, on the other hand, has only averaged 13 INTs during the past 4 seasons. He has never topped 4,000 yards passing or thrown 30 TDs in a season yet, but his numbers are never too far off. He's very consistent and should be a solid start for me every week.
 
96Challenger
      Donor
      ID: 481126818
      Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 19:30
7.03 Ricky Williams, RB, Mia

Still available, is this a gamble? Of course it is! But I need a bk/up due to my bye week problem. Soft spoken Ricky will have the 4 game suspension to start the season with and I'm hoping no injuries come to my previous 3 Rb's, Holmes, Cadillac, and C Brown. By week 7 when the later 2 have their bye weeks, and by then Ricky should be starting and turning in the numbers equal to his previous stats before retiring. At least that's my idea plan.

Update - A day later and I've discovered the software I'm using to track the draft, teams, bye weeks and such has an error. It lists most offensive players from Tenn, except McNair, as having a bye in week 7. Not correct as it's actually week 10. Needless to say I was extremely upset and was most irritated because it threw me off on what little drafting strategy I had going.
 
97Doug
      Leader
      ID: 02730280
      Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 20:16
7.04 – Jerry Porter, WR, OAK
Now it’s getting really interesting. What I do here can ripple will likely ripple through the next 3-5 rounds of my draft. I’m writing this rationale before my pick in the hopes I can come to a conclusion. My plan was to wait on QB another round or two and then draft a pair of them to play “matchup” but Aaron Brooks is tempting me here. Problem: he has the same bye week as the 3 of the QBs I’d be looking to pair him with.

Two stud LBs remain, but the dropoff at the position doesn’t seem too sharp. I really like Bulluck though (a smidge more than Urlacher)… so he’s really tough to pass up. I know I can get value at LB later though, argh… they’re so so tempting, but I have to pass.

Speaking of passing, I see a bigger dropoff ahead for the WR position… and I note that leggestand and Bandos with 1 WR each both will pick twice before it gets back to me, and then Challenger in the same situation before my round 9 pick. There are a couple of moderate sleepers who I have rated higher than most who I could get in a couple rounds probably, however I definitely think you need 4 quality WRs... not only for bye weeks, but injuries as well. Getting WR #3 here wasn’t my plan, but it seems like the smart decision.

As fate would have it, Jerry Porter was the best WR left on my board, and worked well for me bye-week wise. I have him in a dynasty league I play in, as well as in the G24 league, and now I have him here. It doesn’t hurt that I’m a Raider fan so I love rooting for the guy, but I don’t feel this was in any way a homer pick... I never even had him on my radar screen until I noticed the upcoming WR dropoff and he just happened to be at the top of my WR list.
 
98Motley Crue
      ID: 33741217
      Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 23:27
7.06 Travis Henry, RB, TEN

I’m the President of his fan club; I had to take him.

You know he is a good RB. I don’t need to convince you. How healthy will Chris Brown be this season? That’s the only issue with Henry. If Brown starts 16 games, I have a third down back with little to no upside. If Chris Brown gets injured again, as he has throughout college and his pro career, I have another starting RB. And I’ll remind everyone of Henry’s heroic 2003 campaign in which he rushed for 1356 yards and 10 TD’s, despite having a broken leg for half the season.

McGahee’s caddy indeed.

 
99BoNkA
      ID: 53733248
      Wed, Aug 24, 2005, 09:33
7.06 Matt Hasselbeck, QB, SEA
I let my QB selection slide to this round figuring I'd get Hasselbeck or Brooks based off who was selecting infront of me and what they needed. Luckily this worked out as planned and I was able to grab Hasselbeck, who should put up similar numbers to those QBs taken in the 4th and 5th rounds.
 
101For Guru
      Dude
      ID: 439372011
      Wed, Aug 24, 2005, 10:14
7.07 Keith Bulluck, LB, TEN

I almost took Rod Smith here, but there still seems to be ample depth for a 3rd starter at WR. Maybe next round.

We've had a couple of linebackers taken, and it wouldn’t surprise me if a few more disappear before my next opportunity. Bulluck is a stud, and I don't think there's much downside with this pick.

 
102For kev
      Dude
      ID: 439372011
      Wed, Aug 24, 2005, 10:15
7.08 Rod Smith, WR, Denver Broncos

Is this the year that Rod Smith takes a major drop off in production? Obviously, I don’t think so. Smith was the highest ranked WR I had left on my list, and as much as he isn’t flashy, his consistency always seems to come through. Also, playing in the AFC West, with some questionable defenses, only helps Smith. So far, my team isn’t flashy, but I feel I have a team of grinders- CMart, DJax, and now Rod Smith.

 
103For GoatLocker
      Dude
      ID: 439372011
      Wed, Aug 24, 2005, 10:15
7.09 Carson Palmer, QB, Cin

I really expect him to explode this season. When Hasselbeck went 2 choices in front of me, I decided it was time to go with a QB even though I initially had wanted to wait until the 8th round. I see him throwing the ball to what I have ranked as the #4 and #33 WRs in this draft. Think that he a good mix and also expect Rudi Johnson to catch his share of passes.

Been wrong before, but homefully not this time.

 
104For Taxman
      Dude
      ID: 439372011
      Wed, Aug 24, 2005, 10:17
7.10 TJ Houshmientkiewicz, WR, CIN

T.j. Houshmandzadeh may not be a household name, or even one that can be pronounced, much less spelled, but last year (his 4th) he emerged as a solid #2 receiver with All Pro Chad Johnson drawing the double coverage and stud DB coverage. The 4th year tag is misleading and 2004 was really his 3rd year as his true 3rd year in the league was spent on IR. I projedct T.J. to follow the career path of 3rd year breakout WR's and hit or slightly improve on last year's performance. TJ is not big at 6-1, but big enough, doesn't have eye opening speed, but finds daylight against zones and is a candidate for the Good Wrench award as Mr Good Hands. Predict 1075 and 5 TD's. By the way, did I mention he has/can return punts and kick offs.

 
105For leggestand
      Dude
      ID: 439372011
      Wed, Aug 24, 2005, 10:19
7.11 Plaxico Burress, WR, NYG

I knew I had to focus on WR's since I just got my 1st one in round 6. Since I was contemplating Burress in round 5, it was pretty easy for me to choose him here without looking at other options. I had Moulds as #2 on my queue, but it wasn't yet known if his ribs were okay (which they were). With an offense that should throw the ball more than the Steelers have in recent years. I expect something around 1000 yds and 8 TD's for Burress, especially since he is such a good target in the red zone. I hope the change in scenery does him well.

7th round thoughts:

Best value: Jerry Porter at 7.04. I thought he would go 5th round, and the only reason I didn't take him earlier was because I had the Oakland RB.

Biggest risk: Ricky Williams at 7.03. He actually went in the round I expected, but since he won't play the first four weeks of the season, so, he will take up a bench spot for at least 1/2 the season before it can be gaged whether he should remain on a roster is on the WW. Still, the pick has upside, but will need patience.

 
106For Bandos
      Donor
      ID: 013443221
      Wed, Aug 24, 2005, 11:46
7.12 Lee Suggs, RB, CLE

Very surprised to see him at this late point in the draft. He is still #1 in Cleveland though not without a fight. When he came back last year he had 20+ carries a game and fared well. Suggs is great Taylor insurance and may have some legit upside. He was the last top 60 player left on the O side of the ball so I took him.

 
108I_AM_CANADIAN
      ID: 3579513
      Wed, Aug 24, 2005, 12:08
[PlaceHolder] For Ender
 
109I_AM_CANADIAN
      ID: 3579513
      Wed, Aug 24, 2005, 12:14
7.14 Eddie Kennison, WR, KC
Can I just do a "copy/paste" of 6.01? No? Fine… The Chiefs put up BIG offensive #s, and Eddy is their #1 WR. This year they let Morton go, so he's uncontested #1, and will probably see a lot of work. Trent will probably pass a ton to Gonzo & Priest as well... but Eddie put up very respectable #s last year, and I'm hoping for more of the same.