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Subject: RIFC 2005: Draft Discussion #2

  Posted by: Guru - [330592710] Wed, Aug 24, 2005, 10:36
Time for a new thread. Good progress in the draft so far. We're on pace to finish in plenty of time.
 
1Motley Crue
Dude
ID: 439372011
Wed, Aug 24, 2005, 10:49 		I thought you weren't around this morning. I stuck a placeholder up in the rationale thread for you. We were a half dozen behind.
 
2Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Aug 24, 2005, 10:53 		BTW, speaking of a good pace...

My son and I played 18 holes this morning in 2:40! Teed off at 7:05, finished at 9:45. Regulation par 72 course. We were essentially the first group out, and never looked back.

Wish my score was as efficient. :-(
 
3kev
Donor
ID: 043111845
Wed, Aug 24, 2005, 10:55 		Should I be leaving a 10 man que? It seems pretty large at this point.

I shouldn't be too late tonight. Home around the usual time. I will make sure the first thing I do is check into the draft.
 
4Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Wed, Aug 24, 2005, 11:24 		Well, if there's one or two guys in particular you know you want, leave a short queue and if they fall we'll take them for you, otherwise we'll wait your return (assuming it gets to your pick before you return). But if nobody stands out as your top 1-3 picks or so right now, or you just want to wait to see how the other picks go first, then don't sweat it. =-)
 
5Ender
Donor
ID: 013443221
Wed, Aug 24, 2005, 11:45 		Pick made, rationale being composed...

If IAC is around we'll make the turn. If he's not I'll likely have to wait until after school.
 
6For Bandos
Donor
ID: 013443221
Wed, Aug 24, 2005, 11:54 		You know, I don't really consider myself a homer, because I don't handcuff myself to a team when drafting. However, I never quite realized how much being able to root for a guy mattered to me until this draft. I'll say more when we recap the draft, but drafting guys I like is more important to me than I would have predicted. It may be a flaw, but I seem to have decent success from year to year (almost always in the playoffs, though last year Serious Biz was a Disaster).
 
7For Bandos
Donor
ID: 013443221
Wed, Aug 24, 2005, 11:55 		Doh! I forgot to change my handle back after putting in the place holder.
 
13Bandos
Sustainer
ID: 279492419
Wed, Aug 24, 2005, 12:52 		You know, it's true. And in Fantasy sports it really hurts. I dont' draft Yankees, never pick them up and anyone playing against the Red Sox gets to sit. Gotta have my real priorities straight. Just call me fanboy!

Im not so bad in Football...or so I thought. I mean I took NE and I do like Vick - besides that, I could care less.

Oh, sorry bout the rationale, the whole trade thing has me thrown for a loop.
 
15Motley Crue
ID: 33741217
Wed, Aug 24, 2005, 18:19 		I AM CANADIAN

I just made you a designated picker so when Guru isn't around, I can send you my picks if they come up. Usually from about 7 to 4 Central I can't actually pick, although I follow the draft progress. I always know who I want when it's my turn.
 
17I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 34743414
Wed, Aug 24, 2005, 19:46 		Got the MSG MC. Send away.
 
18leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Wed, Aug 24, 2005, 21:25 		Back in town. Thanks Doug (again) for handling my queue. I am happy to see I got my top 2 guys.

Well, it's been a long day, so, my two backlogged rationales will need to wait until tomorrow.
 
19Taxman
SuperDude
ID: 029463114
Wed, Aug 24, 2005, 22:02 		Showing unbridled restraint, The Guru hides in the bushes for 10 rounds before snapping up Dante Hall. I applaude you restraint Dave. (I had round 4 in the pool.) Cliff probably had the winning round, but he has been working way to hard to notice)


(FYI..a couple seasons back in a league that over rated kick return performances, Hall helped The Guru destroy everyone in the regular season. As commissioner of the league, I got the red a$$ for scheduling a three round playoff tournament to begin in week 16...ahh, those were the days)
 
22Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Wed, Aug 24, 2005, 22:31 		I got a big stop sign on Steve McNair. The site drops the capital N out of his name for some reason. Anyway, just an FYI...
 
23Motley Crue
ID: 33741217
Wed, Aug 24, 2005, 22:32 		I got a big stop on Nate Clements. No idea why.
 
29Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Wed, Aug 24, 2005, 23:30 		Hey kev, don't post if you're going to mention undrafted players by name. ;-p
 
30kev
Donor
ID: 043111845
Wed, Aug 24, 2005, 23:32 		did I screw up? Aren't all those guys drafted?
 
31Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Thu, Aug 25, 2005, 00:05 		Not the two in the last sentence.
 
32kev
Donor
ID: 043111845
Thu, Aug 25, 2005, 03:49 		gah, Im an idiot! Slap me upside the head for not even noticing that!
 
34kev
Donor
ID: 043111845
Thu, Aug 25, 2005, 03:56 		Hopefully we get some early morning picks. I am heading to bed, and dont know how much time I will have in the AM to make a que. I guess I will give up some of my beauty sleep to make a que in the morning. Or you guys can just pick, then I can just make a quick decision and be on my way to work.
 
36BoNkA
ID: 571259
Thu, Aug 25, 2005, 10:01 		Do we need an actual defensive lineman for the DL spot or do LBs count there?
 
39Motley Crue
Dude
ID: 439372011
Thu, Aug 25, 2005, 10:03 		#36, you need to start a DL every week.

That's not true. You could take a 0 for the position. But the starting lineup includes a DL.
 
43Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Aug 25, 2005, 10:33 		MC[39] - you can take a zero every week, but you still have to have an eligible player in tha DL slot.
 
45kev
Donor
ID: 043111845
Thu, Aug 25, 2005, 10:55 		let me look at a couple things, then I will make my pick
 
48Motley Crue
Dude
ID: 439372011
Thu, Aug 25, 2005, 16:30 		Guru, what happens if you leave the DL slot (or any slot) blank? Do you get a 0 for the whole team score for that week? I thought you could just leave a spot empty.

I have been posting placeholders a lot today so we can try to stay up with the picking pace. I don't mind doing it, but I guess it can't hurt to remind people to
Post a Placeholder in the Rationale Thread immediately after your pick on Kafenatid.
 
49Bandos
Sustainer
ID: 279492419
Thu, Aug 25, 2005, 16:55 		I am here and will pick shortly.
 
50Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Thu, Aug 25, 2005, 17:10 		Or, preferably, immediately BEFORE your pick on Kafenatid.

I'm pretty certain your whole team gets a 0 if you don't field a full roster. It doesn't matter if your DL is injured, or on bye, or anything... but you need to have one on your roster plugged into your active DL slot in order for your lineup to be valid. Same goes for all other active positions. You must have at least 3 WRs, 1K, 2 RBs, a flex IDP, etc.
 
51Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Aug 25, 2005, 17:12 		I think you get a zero if your roster isn't complete.
 
52Ender
ID: 406351010
Thu, Aug 25, 2005, 17:45 		Just got home from school. I'll get caught up and make my pick.
 
53I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 34743414
Thu, Aug 25, 2005, 17:51 		I'm arround... so be ready for your 2nd pick afterwards.
 
54Ender
ID: 406351010
Thu, Aug 25, 2005, 18:16 		Pick made. Sorry for the delay. It's me and the kids for the afternoon.

I'll post rationales momentarily.
 
55I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 34743414
Thu, Aug 25, 2005, 18:18 		K... I'll wait for your Rationale before putting mine in then.
 
56Ender
ID: 406351010
Thu, Aug 25, 2005, 18:30 		Done :) I'll hang around long enough to follow your 2 then I gotta mow the lawn :(
 
57leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Thu, Aug 25, 2005, 19:11 		Q sent to my designated pickers.
 
58Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Thu, Aug 25, 2005, 19:15 		FYI, I have queues for both 12.04 and 12.05... so Goatlocker is essentially on-deck... that is, once Bandos picks, GL will be up shortly thereafter.
 
60Bandos
Sustainer
ID: 279492419
Thu, Aug 25, 2005, 20:21 		Just got back from dinner - picked.

 
61Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Thu, Aug 25, 2005, 21:11 		kev - email sent
 
62GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Thu, Aug 25, 2005, 21:46 		I'm here.
Have been buried at work.
Will get my rationales caught up as soon as I get done with dinner.

Cliff
 
63kev
Donor
ID: 043111845
Thu, Aug 25, 2005, 22:11 		Doug, I had Kaf open, and picked before I even saw your email...sorry dude.
 
64Motley Crue
ID: 33741217
Thu, Aug 25, 2005, 22:31 		If the Bonk is around, I am around. Maybe we could make the turn tonight...
 
66Motley Crue
ID: 33741217
Thu, Aug 25, 2005, 23:25 		Or not. I'll pick in the A.M.
 
67Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Thu, Aug 25, 2005, 23:29 		LOL... have a good one. Was hoping we'd make the turn too.
 
70Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 02:25 		Sent queue to Guru and Challenger for 12.11 since I'm west coast and probably won't be up until 10am EST. It depends how loud the roosters are tomorrow. Yep, we sure have a lot of roosters here in LA... or at least we would if "roosters" was generally accepted as a euphamism for "breast implants", but I don't think it is. Not yet. We could start it though. I'm sure it would catch on. We'd be trendsetters. "Nice roosters". Has a catchy ring to it, don't you think? *sigh* Clearly I'm sleep deprived...
 
71kev
Donor
ID: 043111845
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 02:47 		I don't think roosters would even be another word for breast implants, considering what roosters are also known as. It seems a bit, well, on the wrong species.
 
72Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 07:59 		I never received you queue, Doug.
 
73Motley Crue
Dude
ID: 439372011
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 08:50 		Guru, you are leaving this morning, right?
 
74Challenger
Donor
ID: 481126818
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 09:03 		I selected for Doug
 
75Motley Crue
Dude
ID: 439372011
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 09:04 		I'm looking forward to reading that rationale, Challenger. Try to contain your glee.
 
77Motley Crue
Dude
ID: 439372011
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 09:27 		legge, not to make you feel too good before the season starts, but I like your round-by-round analysis. That's a great idea, and I'm glad you thought of it. Now you've really built up the exectations and you need to make sure you don't experience a letdown over the last 11 rounds.
 
78Challenger
Donor
ID: 481126818
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 09:56 		MC, I believe it's a BONA fide steal, my 1st this draft.

I walked my daughter down to the bus stop after that selection with glorified champion smirk on my face, whichhhh my daughter promptly wiped off my face when she turned the walk into a race. At least she was kind enough to offer a drink from her water bottle afterwards. :>B (panting)
 
79leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 10:00 		Thanks MC...

Just doing a quick recap (I included my "no one really surprised me, but ______ would be my choice" comments as well:

Best Values by manager:
IAC - 2
Athletics Guy - 3
leggestand - 1
Goatlocker - 1
Bandos - 1
Taxman - 1
Motley - 1
Sludge - 2
Challenger - 1
Doug - 1
Ender - 1

Biggest surprises by manager:
Ender - 1
Bonka - 1
leggestand - 1
Athletics Guy - 1
Doug - 1
Bandos - 1
Challenger - 1
Taxman - 2
Goatlocker - 1

The only person not represented is Guru...I feel that he is going to put up a biggest surprise any round now, though.
 
80Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 10:41 		I thought Ware played LB?
 
81Motley Crue
Dude
ID: 439372011
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 10:46 		Doug,

Ah, but not in the Fanball database. That's the key. So Challenger gets a LB for his defensive lineman.
 
82Challenger
Donor
ID: 481126818
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 10:55 		So did I....until some researching proved me wrong.
 
83kev
Donor
ID: 043111845
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 11:01 		I didnt make either list! Sweet! I dont know if thats good or bad!

I will be home around 630. By the looks of it, that will be around when I'm due to pick.
 
84Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 11:01 		Ah... I see. Clever! Someone should probably let Fanball know about the problem. I wonder if they have other players misassigned... maybe I'll go exploring later. =-)
 
85Motley Crue
Dude
ID: 439372011
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 11:10 		Well, he was a DL in college. And since he hasn't played in the NFL yet, they probably just list the rookies where they played college ball. Unless the team that drafted them made a point of taking them as a specific position different from what they are known for. Eric Crouch comes to mind.
 
88Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 11:18 		Just a heads up... the word from Fanball is that players like Ware (including a couple that come to mind who nobody has drafted yet) and considered "tweeners" are able to play two positions (in real life, not fantasy). They have to be listed at a given position (such as DL in Ware's case) but that may or may not change prior to the season (I'm assuming if it becomes obvious to them that he's an LB, then he'll get switched, but if there is any ambiguity then they'll leave him as-is). Once the season begins, that's probably the position he will remain at for the entire season (I'm abusing parentheses and figured I'd throw one in this last sentence for good measure).
 
89Challenger
Donor
ID: 481126818
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 11:21 		Actually when Dallas is in their 3-4 defense, Ware plays LB. When the shifts to their 4-3 defense, Ware is a DE. I just read Dallas may be playing more the 4-3 than orginally planned due to some personnel concerns, an injury and also a attempt to get one certain player on the field more. If this holds true Ware will be DE more and the selection is not as good as orginally believed.

 
90Motley Crue
Dude
ID: 439372011
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 11:21 		LOL at Doug's McNair write-up. That's damn funny. And FWIW, I am also a big McNair fan. We're talking about the co-MVP from just 2 seasons back. Last season he was hurt. Not much you can do about that. But McNair was one guy I had hoped to land late and it just didn't work out. I knew someone would get him later than he should go, though.
 
91leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 11:22 		Best line:

They’ll release the golden dove from the gilded cage while the gong of destiny rings true.
 
92Challenger
Donor
ID: 481126818
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 11:25 		Doug, did you contact fanball or is there a link on the website which you could provide?
 
93Motley Crue
Dude
ID: 439372011
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 11:29 		I don't think they should change anyone's position once it's set, as it is now. That could mess up some drafts.
 
94Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 11:37 		I contacted them... wanted to find out how set their positional designations are. I have someone in mind and wanted to know the scoop, although he's a bit of a scrub given the shallow IDP depth of this league, so it's probably moot. Still, wanted to know my options. Fanball wrote...

[Player] and other players like him are able to play two positions. He is listed as DL for now and may or may not be changed before the season begins. Whatever position he is listed at when the season begins is most likely how we will list him and others like him in the "tweener" position throughout the season. Please let us know if you have any further questions.
 
96Challenger
Donor
ID: 481126818
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 11:43 		Since you have a dialogue going with Fanball on this subject, can you email them a follow up an ask if they have considered the option of multiple position options?
 
97Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 11:51 		Will do... I get the feeling they feel like they need to make a decision one way or the other on it. I'll ask though.
 
98Motley Crue
Dude
ID: 439372011
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 12:41 		Wow, at this point the rationales are 2 spots ahead of the actual draft.
 
99Sludge
ID: 14411118
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 12:42 		Challenger - so I put off my 2nd QB selection, Griese, for 4 picks. Gone!!

Hehe... I actually had Griese slotted to fall a bit further down the QB ladder and almost put off selecting my 2nd QB hoping that Griese would make it all the way back around. But then I figured, who am I kidding? Favre will be throwing passes while leaning on a walker this year, and with this group, somebody out there sees the potential value of Griese.

I'm actually pretty happy with my last two picks, which is something I never feel in late rounds when we get close to scraping the bottom.
 
100Challenger
Donor
ID: 481126818
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 13:13 		Sludge, Glad to make your Friday. :>)

 
101Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 13:26 		I've got Guru's pick... gonna be out for the next 30-45 mins. and will post upon return if we're past Motley and Bonka.
 
102BoNkA
ID: 147402612
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 13:40 		I'm leaving shortly to go watch a soccer game. Not sure when I'll be back. I may only stay for part of it, but either way, I won't be here for a bit if my turn comes up. I haven't made a queue either, I'm having problems with this pick.
 
103BoNkA
ID: 177512612
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 13:51 		Actually I've just decided on a 2 person queue and just need someone to send it to now...
 
104BoNkA
ID: 487532612
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 13:53 		Hopefully the email address Doug has on the fanball site is correct as I am sending my queue to him.
 
105leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 14:14 		can send to me if you want.
 
106 leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 14:15 		legge4156@yahoo.com
 
107Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 14:17 		Queue received, BoNkA
 
108BoNkA
ID: 37592614
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 15:59 		I actually just got back and went to enter my pick but you must have about 10 seconds before me. Thanks though.
 
109GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 16:20 		Anybody take a two player queue.

Cliff
 
110leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 16:22 		I can take one.
 
111Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 16:25 		"Queues-R-Us" is online and available as well (that's self-referential)
 
112GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 16:26 		Email sent to legge.
Might be around, but just in case.

Cliff
 
113leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 16:28 		Hey Cliff, you need to make me a designated picker as well on kafenatid.

BTW, received your queue (unopened).
 
114GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 16:34 		Yeh, I know,
Duh,
Trying to do too many things at once.
And I could have sent it through the system.

cliff
 
115kev
Donor
ID: 043111845
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 18:15 		home now. Let me digest the picks, then make mine.
 
116Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 18:31 		I'm here and will call Taxman as soon as Matt posts Goat's pick... assuming Tax answers the phone, I should have a pick posted shortly thereafter.
 
118Bandos
Sustainer
ID: 279492419
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 18:49 		I am here all night but taking care of the kids, I will check often.
 
119Sludge
ID: 14411118
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 19:54 		Nope, I can’t believe it, a little K run to steal Adam from me.

Damn, I must be doing something right.
 
120leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 20:52 		Sending a 3 man queue to my DP's.

I know there is 5 picks until I am up, but I wouldn't believe it if all three of the players are taken. If they are, Doug, you can give my cell phone a call. Thanks all.
 
122Ender
ID: 406351010
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 21:10 		:)

Busy afternoon. Kids are having overnight guests and it's beenhectic. I finally got on and sure enough I was up.
 
123kev
Donor
ID: 043111845
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 21:14 		Im hitting the poker tables tonight. I will be home really late, so hopefully it can get back to me.

If it is close, I will send a one man que to anyone who is around tomorrow AM, because sleep is needed by me.
 
124Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 21:21 		I'm back home. Can take any queues from now on.
 
125Ender
ID: 406351010
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 21:31 		PIcks posted, rationales caught up :)

Now I just need to get my guys caught up on the Fanball site. The Serious Biz draft is tonight so I'll be tied up in that for awhile. I doubt it makes back this far until late tomorrow.
 
126Motley Crue
ID: 33741217
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 22:36 		I just picked from legge's cue. I will post a placeholder now.
 
127Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 22:46 		Just got back from dinner with the folks, need to email Tax some data to get him up to speed. I tried calling so he's either in a meeting or in bed or his phone is dead or whatever... point is, right now I'm not sure how soon this next pick will be made. Will update if I hear from him.
 
128GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 23:28 		I'll just continue to check every so often then.

Cliff
 
129Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Sat, Aug 27, 2005, 02:22 		Taxman was on the clock 25 mins tonight, so he still has a lot of time tomorrow. I expect he'll either be calling myself or Guru in the AM. I will be up about 9am EST tomorrow then gone for about 6-8 hours (guesstimate). I'll leave a queue for my 13th round pick at least.
 
130Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Sat, Aug 27, 2005, 03:54 		Queue sent to Guru.
 
131leggestand
ID: 17744278
Sat, Aug 27, 2005, 09:45 		I am heading out until about 1pm tomorrow. I am sending a small queue for my next two picks to my DP's, and if it's exhausted by my pick, then give my cell phone a buzz. Thanks guys.
 
133Challenger
Donor
ID: 481126818
Sat, Aug 27, 2005, 10:39 		Called Tax for his selection so it's onto GL, hope you're still around
 
134Bandos
Sustainer
ID: 279492419
Sat, Aug 27, 2005, 10:44 		Anyone one else get a youre on the clock email? I got one for this morning at 1:26 - but apparently, I am not on the clock.
 
135Challenger
Donor
ID: 481126818
Sat, Aug 27, 2005, 10:47 		I didn't. But yours could prolly just late delivery from your last turn.
 
136GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Sat, Aug 27, 2005, 10:53 		I got the email and the time was right based on when Challenger picked for Tax.
Will have my Rationale up in a second.

Cliff
 
137Challenger
Donor
ID: 481126818
Sat, Aug 27, 2005, 12:22 		Interesting........I was playing around in Fanball and decided to set my starting lineup and Fanball won't let me unless I have all 13 starting positions selected.

1. Cannot start less than 1 Linebacker. Currently selected: 0
2. Cannot start less than 1 Defensive Back. Currently selected: 0

Your starting lineup has NOT been updated.
Please correct the roster error and resubmit your lineup.

So essentially my starting lineup is blank at all positions....until I draft and fill those those remaining 2 postions. Don't rememeber it happening like this last year.
 
138Guru
ID: 330592710
Sat, Aug 27, 2005, 13:18 		It operated that way last year as well. The only way to get an empty position was to trade away (or drop) someone after your lineup was set.

I'm not sure what would have happened in that situation, but I'll bet it was a zero for the team.
 
139Guru
ID: 330592710
Sat, Aug 27, 2005, 13:41 		Some of you guys are doing well at keeping your Fanball rosters up to date. Thanks.

Some of you are not - particularly Ender, who shows only 2 players so far.

Please get your rosters caught up. As we approach the later rounds, this can be a big help in keeping track of available players.
 
140Sludge
ID: 14411118
Sat, Aug 27, 2005, 14:04 		I'm around and ready to pick, but not for long. I have to leave in 2 1/2 hours to go pick my wife and kids up at the airport. I should be back an hour to 90 minutes afterwards.
 
141 Challenger
Donor
ID: 481126818
Sat, Aug 27, 2005, 15:12 		Sludge, If you want to drop a que, I'll take it, but no big deal to me if you wait. Don't know about the others though.
 
142 Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Sat, Aug 27, 2005, 15:33 		I'm back and available for queues... FYI my next pick isn't until 15.12, then 16.11. So, if you pick before 15.12, you can rest assured I won't be stealing your guy! ;-)
 
143I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 3579513
Sat, Aug 27, 2005, 15:40 		wow... another nice value pick from AG!
 
144Athletics Guy
ID: 227112521
Sat, Aug 27, 2005, 15:47 		I sure hope so. I nearly drafted him 3 rounds ago and even a Giants fan told me not to take him!
 
145Bandos
Sustainer
ID: 279492419
Sat, Aug 27, 2005, 15:52 		It's just too complicated for a Q. I will be out til 5 pm est.
 
146Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Sat, Aug 27, 2005, 16:08 		Well, Sludge's rationales are up, so I assume his picks are forthcoming shortly... if AG and Challenger stuck around for the turn... then it will be Bandos who's up and back in an hour. So... if Motley and BoNkA want to check in 5:30ish EST or so we should be working our way through round 15.
 
147Sludge
ID: 14411118
Sat, Aug 27, 2005, 16:10 		Bleh...

Done. For whatever that's worth.
 
148Motley Crue
ID: 33741217
Sat, Aug 27, 2005, 17:32 		Guru has my pick this round, and I have his. But I'm here and will be all evening. Let the picking continue!
 
149Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Sat, Aug 27, 2005, 17:42 		Cool... Bandos must have gotten held up (hopefully not at gunpoint) but presumably he will be back shortly. =-)
 
150Bandos
Sustainer
ID: 279492419
Sat, Aug 27, 2005, 17:48 		here - will pick shortly
 
151GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Sat, Aug 27, 2005, 17:58 		I'm around and checking off and on.
Will be out of pocket all day tomorrow.
Will work a queue and get it to somebody late tonite.
Should be able to check tomorrow nite.

Cliff
 
152Ender
ID: 406351010
Sat, Aug 27, 2005, 18:06 		As per post 125, Fanball is now up to date.
 
153Bandos
Sustainer
ID: 279492419
Sat, Aug 27, 2005, 18:10 		Doug - you can post 13.04 rationale.
 
154Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Sat, Aug 27, 2005, 19:02 		Done... I suppose Motley could probably go ahead with posting 13.05 rationale since pick his 15.05 (traded to Guru) is on the clock.
 
155I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 34743414
Sat, Aug 27, 2005, 21:00 		KEV:

"Had a DB on my radar, but felt he would fall to me in the 14th- lets hope I’m right"

Considering I'm the only one who took off a DB between your picks... I guess it was Madieu?
 
156Guru
ID: 330592710
Sat, Aug 27, 2005, 21:18 		I'm pretty sure I have no idea of what I'm doing at this point.

But I'd expect picks at this stage of the draft to be more unpredictable.

When debating my 15.05 pick, it came down to Bledsoe or a tight end, and the two TE's I considered were L.J. Smith (who I took) and Chris Cooley. So I'm surprised to see that next two picks were Bledsoe and Cooley.
 
157Motley Crue
ID: 33741217
Sat, Aug 27, 2005, 21:22 		Yes, when I see a guy take his 2nd TE, I realize it's time for me to quit neglecting the position. Especially when everyone but 1 other manager already has one and I really wanted Cooley.
 
158kev
Donor
ID: 043111845
Sat, Aug 27, 2005, 21:26 		IAC, when I said DB, I obviously meant a secondary starter. He did obviously fall to me.

Adam Archuleta is a pirate. I like Pirates.
 
159kev
Donor
ID: 043111845
Sat, Aug 27, 2005, 21:30 		I don't know if anyone knows what they are doing at this point. I have had picks I have passed on for 2 rounds, and still get back to me, then I have had guys I think would for sure be there, taken a round earlier than expected.

Overall a smooth draft so far.
 
160Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Sat, Aug 27, 2005, 22:20 		FYI, left messages for Tax on both phones (and emailed him an updated list of picks). Soon as I hear from him I'll post, but who knows when that will be. =-)
 
161Ender
ID: 406351010
Sun, Aug 28, 2005, 00:44 		It didn't take me near as long as the rest of you to figure out I don't what the heck I'm doing :P

 
162Motley Crue
ID: 33741217
Sun, Aug 28, 2005, 07:36 		Some guys I thought would last longer than they did: Ware, Davenport, Danny Clark, Kevin Curtis, and Dominic Rhodes.

On the flipside, I just noticed that Delhomme went at 10.02. That could be the steal of this draft if he plays as well as some expect. I think he's certainly a Top 10 QB by season's end. I would have loved to have had him as my QB2, but I got wrapped up in my own RB run.
 
163I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 34743414
Sun, Aug 28, 2005, 08:31 		I may need to leave a queue with someone this morning... will anyone be arround?
 
164I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 34743414
Sun, Aug 28, 2005, 09:16 		FYI - Added MC to queue takers list in Kafenatid, and sent out queue email to him and Guru from the Kafenatid site.

Use it to move along... I'll post if I show up and don't want it used.
 
165GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Sun, Aug 28, 2005, 10:44 		Will be out of pocket until tonite.

Sending a Queue to Doug, Legge, and Guru.

Should cover 16.06 and maybe 17.09 if it gets back.

Cliff
 
166Motley Crue
ID: 33741217
Sun, Aug 28, 2005, 11:01 		I just picked for legge from his queue.
 
167Ender
ID: 406351010
Sun, Aug 28, 2005, 11:33 		I picked. MC, if you're still around we'll make the turn. If not then I'll get a Q to someone before we take off in a couple hours.
 
168Motley Crue
ID: 33741217
Sun, Aug 28, 2005, 11:36 		Are you going to post a rationale placeholder? I was about to put 2 up for IAC and I noticed yours isn't up yet.
 
169Motley Crue
ID: 33741217
Sun, Aug 28, 2005, 11:38 		OK, you were quicker than me. You're up for your 14.02 placeholder.
 
170Ender
ID: 406351010
Sun, Aug 28, 2005, 11:56 		I've been posting them immediately after I pick. I figure I can't win, either people are anxiously waiting for the pick or people want to throw placeholders up ASAP (no offense intended). So I please the people waiting for their pick first, no big deal.
 
171Motley Crue
ID: 33741217
Sun, Aug 28, 2005, 12:25 		No problem, Ender. I have trouble being patient when I'm not sure what the other person is going to do. I'm just impatient in general, I suppose.

Bandos will pick shortly I believe, as he just posted his rationale. Then I have legge's next pick.
 
172Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Sun, Aug 28, 2005, 12:44 		Posted picks for Tax and Goat... kev is up... I'll do rationale placeholders for those last 2 picks.
 
173kev
Donor
ID: 043111845
Sun, Aug 28, 2005, 13:07 		Gotta like it when you wake up, and you have only been on the clock 20 minutes. It gives you that good feeling. Put a little hop in my step today.
 
174For Goatlocker
Leader
ID: 02730280
Sun, Aug 28, 2005, 13:26 		THE BROTHERS HAVE BEEN REUNITED!!! THE BROTHERS HAVE BEEN REUNITED!!! THE BROTHERS HAVE BEEN REUNITED!!!
 
175Guru
ID: 330592710
Sun, Aug 28, 2005, 13:27 		Can I draft Archie too?
 
176For Goatlocker
Leader
ID: 02730280
Sun, Aug 28, 2005, 13:30 		Sure! Waste that pick, baby!

Forgot to change my handle back for that last post LOL.

Glad to see someone else getting in on the humor action (rationale 14.08)! ;-)
 
177Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Sun, Aug 28, 2005, 13:31 		Dammit!!! I forgot again!!! Now I'm straight though.

: \
 
178kev
Donor
ID: 043111845
Sun, Aug 28, 2005, 13:52 		Why don't you add the 3rd Manning brother, Wally? I'm sure if things continue for the Bears the way they are, they are sure to give him a tryout based on his namesake.
 
179leggestand
ID: 17744278
Sun, Aug 28, 2005, 14:12 		Back in town. Thanks for getting my picks in guys.

My rationales will coming later.
 
180TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Sun, Aug 28, 2005, 14:36 		I agree, Doug. You, MC, Ender, Guru, and maybe a couple others have gotten a few chuckles out of me with some of the more recent rationales. For me, it really adds another level of enjoyment to this and the qualifier leagues. Too bad that we can't get everyone to participate in my current league.

I am not a big fan of AAA and AA level leagues. I think Guru should select people who he believes deserve an "invitation" with winning or placing at the top of qualifying leagues factored in. Toss in reliability to make picks in a timely manner, posting rationales, and leaving queues or communicating with league-mates when extended absences are going to occur.
 
182Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Sun, Aug 28, 2005, 15:09 		I hear your frustration TB. I tried baseball last year and sucked, but my leaguemates were alright. I thought about giving it another go this year, but baseball just isn't my sport, and I didn't want to be mired in AA. =-(

One thing I forgot to mention in my round 13 rationale is that I have a good friend who's nickname is "Sams". She's got a wicked sense of humor... we share lots of self-deprecating and R-rated jokes with each other. So now all season long I'm going to snicker like an adolescent whenever I look at my RIFC lineup and see the name "BJ Sams"...
 
183Challenger
Donor
ID: 481126818
Sun, Aug 28, 2005, 15:32 		FYI - I be back online around 5:00 PM EST if not sooner
 
184Motley Crue
ID: 33741217
Sun, Aug 28, 2005, 16:29 		OK, so I was here all morning to keep the thing moving by picking from queues and then I go out for a few hours and hold the dang draft up on my pick. Sorry. It shouldn't happen again.

BTW, legge and IAC I made both of your picks, for each of you. Any complaints should be leveled in this direction.

//MC

 
185kev
Donor
ID: 043111845
Sun, Aug 28, 2005, 16:48 		Great pick in Briggs. The Bears D will be on the field a lot this year, and he could rack up huge tackle #'s.
 
186Challenger
Donor
ID: 481126818
Sun, Aug 28, 2005, 17:33 		Sorry guys, I trying to verify a position for a player and the Fanball site is down for system maintenance till 5:45 EST.
 
187 Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Sun, Aug 28, 2005, 18:00 		No worries, bro. You can go ahead with your rationale, and if you're still having problems with the site you can email me and I'll look up your player in question (sites working A-OK at this point for me).
 
188Challenger
Donor
ID: 481126818
Sun, Aug 28, 2005, 18:09 		Cold feet slowed me up even further!
 
189Sludge
ID: 14411118
Sun, Aug 28, 2005, 19:38 		Hmm... well that was an unexpected Sunday afternoon nap. Rationales forthcoming, as are my picks. Briggs was in my crosshairs, so I'll have to spend a bit more time.
 
205Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Aug 29, 2005, 12:23 		I appreciate the diligence with rationales, especially those of you who are clearly going out of your way to write something witty and/or comprehensive.

I think this league draft has been the smoothest in terms of timely rationales and timely picks. We're currently on pace to complete the draft on Wednesday, less than 2 weeks after the start.
 
207Bandos
Sustainer
ID: 279492419
Mon, Aug 29, 2005, 14:14 		Wow, sorry bout that.
 
208Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Mon, Aug 29, 2005, 14:31 		Goat's been on the clock 4 hours... I had a queue for him rounds 16 and 17, but not 18. Nobody else got one? There's no rush or anything, we're gonna finish in plenty of time... I just don't want him to time out! We've made it this far without one... keep the streak alive! =-)
 
209Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Aug 29, 2005, 15:02 		I have to leave by 4:15pm, and may not be home until 8pm or so. (10 holes [9 with clubs, one in the clubhouse] weather permitting - and the weather may not permit).

GL doesn't time out until about 4:30. In the past, he's used a lot of his time allotment, but hasn't yet completely timed out, so hopefully he'll make it back.

This is all relevant because I have Kev's queue. If Goat picks before I leave, I can make the next 2 picks quickly. But if he times out, I won't be around to pick from Kevin's queue. I can send a queue for my own pick to Doug, but I don't know that anyone else can make Kev's pick. Of course, by that time, Kev may be able to make his own pick.
 
210Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Mon, Aug 29, 2005, 15:08 		Probably just as well to wait until you return... give GL a bit of extra time. He's been busy at work... and did at least leave a queue for the last two rounds, so I vote for cutting him some slack as close as we are to the end.
 
211Challenger
Donor
ID: 481126818
Mon, Aug 29, 2005, 15:33 		Then I won't be checking back until Guru returns....unless Cliffy picks
 
212Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Mon, Aug 29, 2005, 16:20 		I'm heading out for an hour or two, and want to see what those ahead of me do before making a decision. No queue, but I shouldn't be gone too long... 1 hour... maybe 2 tops.
 
213kev
Donor
ID: 043111845
Mon, Aug 29, 2005, 18:14 		Im here now. I doubt my pick would be on GL's list, or anyone's so I will just make it.
 
214Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Mon, Aug 29, 2005, 18:33 		Well, GL's been on the clock for 8 hours... I guess we could give him 1 more unless anyone feels otherwise (either for more or less). I received a queue from Guru and will check back in an hour to post his pick (well, as long the queue contains at least one undrafted player!)... assuming there's still no word from GL and no objection or other preference from the rest fo the league.
 
215Athletics Guy
ID: 427542916
Mon, Aug 29, 2005, 19:05 		Hope everything is okay with GL
 
216Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Mon, Aug 29, 2005, 19:28 		Ditto. I went ahead and posted Guru's pick.
 
218Sludge
ID: 14411118
Mon, Aug 29, 2005, 21:39 		Bah. I left all of my draft materiel back at the office, so my round 16 and 17 rationales are gonna have to wait and my picks, while forthcoming, are going to take a bit longer than anticipated.
 
219Sludge
ID: 14411118
Mon, Aug 29, 2005, 21:42 		But I will note it would have been a lot quicker had someone not taken Pollard and Strahan. So don't blame it on me!
 
220Sludge
ID: 14411118
Mon, Aug 29, 2005, 21:49 		Okay, done. Everyone feel free to list Turner as your stretch o' the draft.
 
221Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Aug 29, 2005, 21:53 		Turner makes sense as your Tomlinson handcuff. On that basis, it's not a "stretch".
 
222Sludge
ID: 14411118
Mon, Aug 29, 2005, 21:57 		Well, yes. But if I really wanted to handcuff LT, I'd have to draft the entire SD backfield. He's nowhere near a lock on getting a significant amount of the carries should LT go down even though he is listed 2nd on the depth chart. I suspect there'll be a running-back-by-committee should LT go down. But I'm basically writing my rationale right now so I'll be quiet now.
 
223Doug @ parents
ID: 49112252
Mon, Aug 29, 2005, 22:14 		LOL... I don't know where you get that idea from. I've got Turner in a dynasty league because I fully expect him to be the workhorse if LT goes down... or else a starting RB on another team within a few years. Correction... I had Turner on my squad for the past year and change, but traded him yesterday for Matt Jones (to the owner who has LT). I similarly developed Lamont Jordan (who I paried with Andre Johnson to trade for Randy Moss). I've got another RB who's in a situation much like Lamont Jordan was last year (actually, the exact same situation)... basically he's just biding his time until he's a starter. Always pays to have at least one in the pipeline in that league. =-)
 
224Sludge
ID: 14411118
Mon, Aug 29, 2005, 22:26 		Actually, Doug, after doing a bit more reading, it appears that my comments were a bit premature. I wasn't aware, for example, that they released Chatman OVER A MONTH AGO! Sheesh. Has my internet search kung fu been going downhill or what? That basically leaves Sproles as his only competition. I still expect they'll split time, but I have to agree with you that he'll get the bulk of the carries. What was that someone said earlier about not knowing what they're doing? Just wait until you read my real rationale. :)
 
225Motley Crue
ID: 33741217
Mon, Aug 29, 2005, 22:44 		LT is not going down. Never.
 
226Doug @ parents
ID: 49112252
Mon, Aug 29, 2005, 22:47 		LOL... I smell denial.
 
227Motley Crue
ID: 33741217
Mon, Aug 29, 2005, 22:49 		Good night, fellas. Thanks for getting back to me before I fell asleep at the desk.

Only 2 more picks! How will I ever manage to pare down all those guys I still want?
 
228BoNkA
ID: 287302922
Mon, Aug 29, 2005, 23:30 		I'll wait and make my pick later tonight (more like 2am most likely). I'm doing stuff at the moment and need to look at things. Maybe GL will get on within that time as well.
 
231I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 34743414
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 01:07 		FYI - I probably won't have internet access tomorrow at all, and I don't want to hold up the draft, so I sent out a pretty long queue to Guru and MC.

It's highly unlikely that the queue will be depleted at this point, as their are 8 names in it, and only 8 posible players can come off the board before my picks. I could have dug for 2 more names... but it's getting really late.
 
233Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 09:07 		I'm surprised Goatlocker didn't show up overnight. That's of some concern.

I never received a queue from I_A_C either. Although I am able to make picks for any team, unless you authorize me as a designated picker, I don't automatically receive your queue emails.

Hopefully, MC got the queue.
 
234Motley Crue
ID: 265321611
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 09:33 		I have it, but since I'm back to work today (Hurricane missed us by a good margin, although some folks to the west weren't so lucky) I will have to e-mail Guru with the picks when it's IAC's turn. Call me "Middleman".

Yeah I wonder where the heck GoatLocker is. He lives in California, so no natural disasters this week. Maybe he just had to work all day and night Monday.

 
235holt
ID: 16735225
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 10:36 		guru - i was just comparing AAA#2 rules setup to the PDF file you posted.

you have it set like this:

Offensive Players and
Team Defenses get the following points:
Award 6.00 points for kickoff return touchdowns in the range of 0 to 110.

Offensive Players and
Team Defenses get the following points:
Award 6.00 points for punt return touchdowns in the range of 0 to 110.


is this right? I had our league set so that only offense players get credit for these (when they say offensive players, I think that includes IDP's). just want to make sure.
 
236Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 11:05 		I'm pretty sure that scoring provision is unchanged from last season. Traditionally, "team defense" often means "team defense and special teams". So I guess that was the rationale.
 
237holt
ID: 16735225
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 11:12 		ok - i just want to make sure we're set up the same way.

so if dante hall runs a kickoff back for a td, then KC's team defense gets 6 points?

I'll go change our league setup on that then.
 
238kev
Donor
ID: 043111845
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 11:14 		Im trying to select St Louis Rams Defense as my pick, but having troubles, and late for work.

Guru will hopefully pick it shortly.
 
239kev
Donor
ID: 043111845
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 11:23 		figured it out. Finally clicked in I needed the "."
 
241Motley Crue
ID: 265321611
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 11:47 		Sludge, if Horn or Owens gets hurt, you won't be totally screwed. If your whole defense gets hurt, you will, though. ; )

 
242Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 12:09 		I sure hope Goatlocker returns before his current clock expires. And I obviously hope that nothing bad has happened.

But, for the sake of preparation, assume that he times out again (at 5:22pm ET this afternoon).

We have several possible courses of action we can take:
  1. We can follow the rules and move the draft ahead to the next picker. Goatlocker's picks for rounds 18 & 19 will be in arrears.
  2. We can suspend the draft. Since we are running ahead of schedule, we could even afford to wait an extra day or more without negatively impacting the season.
  3. We could assign him some players and then move on.
Last year, when this situation occurred (it was Goatlocker last year as well), the first two picks were skipped. After every other team had made two picks, we assigned him Terrell Owens as Tiki Barber as the consensus top players remaining. We feared that deferring his top two picks for even longer risked terminal damage to his team.

At this point, it is hard to make a case that his team suffers irreparable harm even if he misses all of his remining picks. He already has players to complete a valid lineup, so his last four picks are probably bench players to start the season. I doubt if "consensus" picks even exist at this stage of the draft.

Based on all of this, I think I'd suggest we simply follow the rules and march on, if the situation arises. If he lived in the southeast, I'd be more inclined to lean toward a different approach on the assumption that the delay was weather related. But he doesn't, and given his history, I'd say we simply go on.

However, I am certainly open to contrary feedback.
 
243Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 12:28 		Are you open to non-contrary feedback as well? I agree it is not obvious what position he would draft at this point, and even then WHO at any given position. I've got the same feeling about my picks as well (see 17.04 rationale)... I could skip my remaining picks and end up with the same players I would have drafted anyway (or at least similar ones). It's not analagous to missing rounds 1 and 2. Let's just move on and hope for the best for GL, both fantasy-wise and RL-wise (if it comes to that point).
 
244Motley Crue
ID: 265321611
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 12:36 		League integrity is not at stake this time. Let's just play by the established rules. If he times out, we keep going.
 
245I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 41713300
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 13:31 		Wow... managed to get access just to notice that we had made all of 2 picks in the last 12 hours? Oh well, hope all is well with Goatlocker.

FYI to MC - I made an adjustment to my queue that I sent off to you, as I'll be out most of the rest of the day. I re-arranged some priority, and added a player to the queue, just to be sure that I'm covered.

Thx again,

Ben
 
246Motley Crue
ID: 265321611
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 13:55 		Too bad you sent it to my home address, which I can't check from work. : (
 
247Challenger
Donor
ID: 481126818
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 14:05 		I've tried to call Cliff a couple times today with no luck, just voice mail. He does travel for business and may be w/o internet access or it may be something not that simple.

It wouldn't bother me if we would suspend for 24 hours as long as we finish before the weekend. (Never seen a draft go so well on weekends as this has, but still....)
 
248Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 14:09 		Note to self: for next year (or the next Invitational league draft), I should probably institute a rule that once a manager times out, he loses the clock for subsequent picks until he makes up the skipped picks.

Either that, or we should have a cumulative clock. That would be more of an administrative hassle, though, as it would have to be manually monitored and enforced.

I'll allow the clock for GL to run its course for this pick. However, in the event that he is still absent for his round 20 pick, I'll probably just skip it immediately and move the draft along. It's unfair to the rest of the managers to have to repeatedly stare at a frozen draft board.
 
249Sludge
ID: 27751510
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 14:19 		Just have something like a 6 hour clock for the initial opportunity, then a 30 minute (or 15 minute, or whatever) clock for all subsequent opportunities for the pick. KKB, you listening? Might be a good thing to implement.
 
250GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 14:37 		Caught up.
Sorry all, everything that could go wrong did.
Will explain later.

Cliff
 
251GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 14:37 		Will catch up my rationales tonite.

Cliff
 
252Motley Crue
ID: 265321611
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 15:02 		Thanks, GL. Aprreciate the post.
 
253Ender
Donor
ID: 013443221
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 16:34 		I just got a big red stop sign on Al Wilson. I had his Yahoo page open and I spelled it right so I don't know what's up. I went ahead and clicked through.
 
254Bandos
Sustainer
ID: 279492419
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 17:32 		I'm gonna be out for a while. Anyone take a Q?

Thanks, Bandos
 
255Bandos
Sustainer
ID: 279492419
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 17:45 		OK, well, I should be back by 8pm
 
256 Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 18:03 		I can take one if you haven't left yet...
 
258Bandos
Sustainer
ID: 279492419
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 19:56 		Actually, Doug, I think you have my pick :-/

Just realized after a few beers.
 
259Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 21:19 		Beer? Hmm... maybe we can work a sign-and-trade...

Nobody's heard from Ender recently or has a queue?
 
260Motley Crue
ID: 33741217
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 21:21 		No, and if he so desires, we may not hear from him all night long.
 
261leggestand
ID: 17744278
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 21:29 		I just sent my final queue to my DP's. I am heading to Vegas tomorrow, and wish you guys luck in the remaining rounds.

My DP's will see that there is only 1 player in my Round 21 queue. If he is there, draft him. If not, just skip me (if possible). I am only 3 picks from the end, so, I don't mind just picking up a free agent early next week, especially since it is just going to be a backup.
 
262Ender
ID: 406351010
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 21:33 		I'm here. I made the last pick from school. This is the first chance I've had since I got home. Sorry for the hold up.
 
263Motley Crue
ID: 33741217
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 21:50 		Billy Volek, holy cow! I thought I was the only one considering him.
 
264Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 22:29 		Yeah, it was a straight up S&M pick (gonna handcuff him to McNair...)
 
265kev
Donor
ID: 043111845
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 22:33 		Now we get to hear more about Norm Chow- good times!

Finally took my kicker...

Hoping the one guy left on my radar slips the whole round to me.
 
268Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 23:03 		What's the protocol for round 20 and 21 rationales, seeing as there's no 2-round lag? Should we just post them here as soon as the draft completes... email them to Guru... or...?
 
271Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 23:11 		Just post them here (rationales for rounds 20-21) and I'll get them organized.
 
281Sludge
ID: 14411118
Wed, Aug 31, 2005, 01:23 		Fair warning since my pick is right around the corner. Although I won't come even close to going over my 6 hours, I'm in class from 9-9:50 tomorrow (Central). I'll have my last two picks made shortly after that barring any visitors to my office and assuming it makes it to me before then. Just thought I'd let everyone picking after me know so they can time their "checking-in".
 
282Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Wed, Aug 31, 2005, 01:40 		Thanks for the heads up, Sludge. I'm about to post my rationale here for 18.11 so it can be copied over after MC picks tomorrow since I probably won't be checking in until noon EST (my 20.11 was previously traded for 20.03).
 
284Athletics Guy
ID: 87513016
Wed, Aug 31, 2005, 02:22 		Mmm...Heath Bars
 
286Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Aug 31, 2005, 09:29 		Kafenatid.net appear to be having technical problems as of the moment. I alerted Fred, but have no feedback on the nature or time to resolution.

Given our favorable pace, let's just wait until I hear something before deciding whether we need to move things back here.
 
287Ender
Donor
ID: 013443221
Wed, Aug 31, 2005, 09:30 		I just got a "Could not connect to database" error from Kafenatid. Not urgent for me right now, but I didn't know if anyone else was having problems.
 
288Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Aug 31, 2005, 09:32 		Looks like it's back up already.
 
289KrazyKoalaBears
Leader
ID: 517553018
Wed, Aug 31, 2005, 09:40 		Looks like they restarted the database server. Should be back in order now.
 
290Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Aug 31, 2005, 09:45 		Planning ahead, since we are nearing the end of the draft. As you may recall...
"at the end of the draft, all undrafted players are placed on waivers for 2 days, during which time waiver claims can be submitted. The priority order for preseason waiver claims is the reverse of the random draw for selecting draft order."
Thus the priority order for post draft waiver claims will be:

1 Bandos
2 Taxman
3 Doug
4 Ender
5 GoatLocker
6 Guru
7 Bonka
8 Mötley Crüe
9 Leggestand
10 Kev
11 Challenger
12 I_AM_CANADIAN
13 Athletics Guy
14 Sludge


The Fanball system will not adminster this process, so we will need to do it manually.

The 48 hour waiver period will not begin until all rosters have been filled at Fanball. I will announce when this period starts. At that time, all add/drop roster transactions will be temporarily frozen. If you wish to place a waiver claim for an undrafted player, you will need to submit your claim to me via email.
 
291Bandos
Sustainer
ID: 279492419
Wed, Aug 31, 2005, 11:32 		Sorry bout the delay, Ill pick shortly.
 
294Athletics Guy
ID: 87513016
Wed, Aug 31, 2005, 15:01 		That was a smooth draft. Good job everyone.
 
295Motley Crue
Dude
ID: 439372011
Wed, Aug 31, 2005, 15:10 		It's funny, AG. I was talking to TB (a big Raiders fan that usually knows about the other Bay area fans) and I asked him if he thought you'd take Jolley. I thought you would because of the Raiders connection. He said he didn't know.

So predictable!
 
296Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Wed, Aug 31, 2005, 15:16 		Hey, I'm a Raiders fan, and I passed on Curry to take Matt Jones... so we aren't ALL predictable. Curry might have been a better choice given Porter's hammy concerns (I at least have ONE Raider...), but at least I disproved the notion that I'll always pick the Raider when given the opportunity. =-)
 
297Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Wed, Aug 31, 2005, 15:27 		I need to leave for a few hours. I'm going to post my last 3 rationales, including one for the pick I haven't made yet. I know, breakin' the rules. I'm a hoodlum and a Raider fan, what can I say? The odds that Challenger would even remotely consider my pick are slim... particularly since he still needs to fill his Flex IDP slot. So I don't think I'm messing anything up by doing this. It's been a swell draft.
 
301Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Wed, Aug 31, 2005, 15:29 		Someone please make my 21.04 pick when it comes up. I want you to know that, to me at least, you are ALL designated pickers. And that means a lot.
 
302Athletics Guy
ID: 87513016
Wed, Aug 31, 2005, 15:39 		Yeah, I guess I am predictable. If not Jolley, it would have been Courtney Anderson. :)
 
303Challenger
Donor
ID: 481126818
Wed, Aug 31, 2005, 15:44 		Took care of Doug.

I need an IDP flex?? Guess I better go check
 
306Motley Crue
Dude
ID: 439372011
Wed, Aug 31, 2005, 15:54 		Well, I e-mailed Guru and asked him to pick Fason for me. If he's not around, IAC could do it. Otherwise you turkeys will have to wiat until I get home.
 
307Motley Crue
Dude
ID: 439372011
Wed, Aug 31, 2005, 16:06 		Duh, it's Faison.
 
308Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Aug 31, 2005, 16:17 		Apparently it really is Fason.
 
309Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Aug 31, 2005, 17:16 		Once you make your final pick and post your final rationale(s), please venture over to Fanball and make sure you have all 21 picks on your roster.
 
310Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Wed, Aug 31, 2005, 18:19 		Hey Guru, in your latest rationale... who's Mike Carney? =-p
 
312Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Wed, Aug 31, 2005, 21:07 		Re: 303... DOH! Sorry about that... somehow I missed your pickup of Derrick Johnson on my draft grid, even though he was crossed off my cheat sheet.

I'll be posting my draft grid after we finish things up, btw.
 
313Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Wed, Aug 31, 2005, 21:11 		Hmm... my strikethrough of "small child" at the end of 19.04 rationale seems to have disappeared in the transfer.

Do you have to manually add in the HTML tags when you transfer posts? Yeesh... have fun with 20.03 if that's the case!
 
317Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Aug 31, 2005, 22:24 		I knew someone once named Mike Carney. I guess I had that name on the brain.
 
318Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Aug 31, 2005, 22:25 		Doug[313] - yes, html tags have to be reinserted when I transfer.
 
320Motley Crue
ID: 33741217
Wed, Aug 31, 2005, 22:37 		Yes, but you'll wind up waiving those guys to replace injured starters in about 3 or 4 weeks, unless you are unbelievably lucky!
 
321Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Thu, Sep 01, 2005, 00:23 		Leggestand said he's gone until early next week (post 261) so can Guru manually skip or time out his pick? Otherwise maybe the last 3 could just post their picks here? Open to other ideas, but waiting for him to pick doesn't seem like an option.
 
322Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Sep 01, 2005, 09:31 		leggestand did say he sent a 1 man queue (for the 21st round) to his designated picker(s). Can anyone confirm if that player has already been taken?
 
323Motley Crue
Dude
ID: 439372011
Thu, Sep 01, 2005, 09:52 		Guru, I think it was Arnaz Battle. I'm pretty sure of it. I deleted the e-mail because whoever he asked for was taken. That was early yesterday though. I can't remember. Too much going on in my head!
 
324Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Thu, Sep 01, 2005, 10:13 		I can confirm MC's post.
 
325Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Sep 01, 2005, 10:28 		OK, I moved the draft along by assigning him "Skip Pick", the backup kicker for Jeff Reed on Pittsburgh. Gotta handcuff those kickers, y'know.
 
326Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Sep 01, 2005, 10:48 		I started a thread for your general recap of the draft. Please wait until the final 3 picks are made before posting in that thread.
 
327Ender
Donor
ID: 013443221
Thu, Sep 01, 2005, 11:56 		I'll catch up on my rationales after school, sorry. I had about 5 minutes to work with :(
 
328Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Thu, Sep 01, 2005, 12:29 		Dammit. I wanted Skip... thought maybe as a free agent.
 
329I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 41713300
Thu, Sep 01, 2005, 12:57 		and... WERE DONE!
 
330Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Sep 01, 2005, 13:38 		OK - Here's the schedule.

1. Post your remaining rationales here ASAP.

2. Go to the Fanball site and complete picking up your drafted players. Please do this before midnight tomorrow.

3. If you want to claim any undrafted players, send me an email by midnight on Sunday. I'll process any claims on Monday morning (exact time TBD, but I'll let you know as the day approaches). After that, you may do add/drops on your own. (Until then, hands off - except for picking up your draftees now.)

 
331Motley Crue
Dude
ID: 439372011
Thu, Sep 01, 2005, 13:54 		To be clear, because the option is there right now, if you add anyone via free agency that you didn't draft, IT'S CHEATING.

 
333Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Thu, Sep 01, 2005, 14:00 		[if supportMisalignedColumns] [endif]
Sludge AthleticsGuy Challenger Doug Motley BoNkA RotoGuru
QB Favre 6 Brady 7 Plummer 9 Leftwich 7 Bulger 9 Hasselbeck 8 Manning 8 QB
QB2 Griese 7 Roethlisberger 4 Pennington 8 McNair 10 Harrington 3 Bledsoe 9 Manning 5 QB2
QB3 Volek 10 QB3
RB LT 10 Alexander 8 Priest 5 Deuce 10 Edge 8 McGahee 9 Westbrook 6 RB
RB2 Bettis 4 Bell 9 Cadillac 7 Jul Jones 9 T Jones 4 Dunn 8 L Johnson 5 RB2
RB3 Duckett 8 Barlow 6 C Brown 10 BJ Sams 3 M Anderson 9 Benson 4 R Moats 6 RB3
RB4 Turner 10 Gore 6 R Williams 4 Henry 10 K Faulk 7 Betts 3 RB4
RB5 Jacobs 10 M Moore 5 Moe Williams 5 RB5
RB6 A Smith 10 W Parker 4 RB6
RB6 C Fason 5 RB6
WR1 Owens 6 Harrison 8 Mason 10 S Smith 7 Holt 9 J Walker 6 A Johnson 3 WR1
WR2 Horn 10 Coles 8 Key Johnson 9 Boldin 6 Wayne 8 Mi Clayton 7 Driver 6 WR2
WR3 Muhammed 4 Rogers 3 A Bryant 4 Porter 5 Colbert 7 B Edwards 4 Randle El 4 WR3
WR4 Stokley 8 Givens 7 Engram 8 M Jones 7 Jenkins 8 Glenn 9 Hall 5 WR4
WR5 T Taylor 5 Toomer 5 Mike Williams 3 Welker 4 E Parker 10 Boston 4 Lewis 10 WR5
WR6 Curry 5 WR6
TE McMichael 4 Troupe 10 Gonzo 5 Clark 8 Cooley 3 Shockey 5 Gates 10 TE
TE2 Graham 7 Jolley 8 Miller 4 LJ Smith 6 TE2
PK Vinatieri 7 Janikowski 5 Akers 6 Wilkins 9 Longwell 6 Nugent 8 PK
PK2 PK2
D/ST Seattle 8 Baltimore 3 Atlanta 8 NY Jets 8 Chicago 4 Philly 6 Indy 8 D/ST
D/ST2 Miami 4 Detroit 3 Tennessee 10 Arizona 6 Kansas City 5 D/ST2
DL Taylor 4 Rice 7 Ware 9 K Williams 5 C Grant 10 Schobel 9 J Smith 10 DL
DL2 S Ellis 8 DL2
LB Spikes 9 Z Thomas 4 Suggs 3 Lewis 3 Briggs 4 D Brooks 7 Bulluck 10 LB
LB2 LB2
DB S Taylor 3 Roy Williams 9 Coleman 8 Wilson 5 Clements 9 Reed 3 McGee 9 DB
DB2 A Wilson 6 Boulware 8 Trufant 8 Brown 4 DB2
Flex Witherspoon 7 Barnett 6 D Johnson 5 Urlacher 4 D Williams 9 Farrior 4 Vilma 8 Flex
kevmarbury GoatLocker Taxman leggestand Bandos Ender IAC
QB Collins 5 Palmer 10 Culpepper 5 Green 5 Vick 8 Brees 10 McNabb 6 QB
QB2 Boller 3 Ramsey 3 Warner 6 Losman 9 Carr 3 Delhomme 7 Brooks 5 QB2
QB3 QB3
RB Dom Davis 3 Portis 3 Dillon 7 Jamal Lewis 3 Barber 5 Rudi 10 Kev Jones 3 RB
RB2 C-Mart 8 S Jackson 9 Foster 7 L Jordan 5 F Taylor 7 A Green 6 R Brown 4 RB2
RB3 M Faulk 9 Arrington 6 Davenport 6 M Bennett 5 Suggs 4 Staley 4 Pittman 7 RB3
RB4 Blaylock 8 Goings 7 Shelton 7 Droughns 4 Toefield 7 Rhodes 8 Shipp 6 RB4
RB5 Morency 3 C Taylor 3 Davis 7 Perry 10 RB5
RB6 Green 4 RB6
RB6 RB6
WR1 D Jackson 8 Roy Williams 3 Burleson 5 Chambers 4 R Moss 5 Bennett 10 C Johnson 10 WR1
WR2 Fitzgerald 6 Branch 7 Bruce 9 Burress 5 Stallworth 10 Ward 4 J Smith 7 WR2
WR3 R Smith 9 Evans 9 TJ Housh 10 Moulds 9 Lloyd 6 Lelie 9 Kennison 5 WR3
WR4 McCardell 10 S Moss 3 Drummond 3 Calico 10 Northcutt 4 K Curtis 9 McCareins 8 WR4
WR5 Gardner 7 Reg Williams 7 G Lewis 6 M Robinson 5 Caldwell 10 Galloway 7 WR5
WR6 WR6
TE Franks 6 E Johnson 6 Wiggins 5 Crumpler 8 Heap 3 Putzier 9 Witten 9 TE
TE2 Pollard 3 J Stevens 8 TE2
PK Carney 10 Elam 9 Kaeding 10 Reed 4 Stover 3 Brown 8 Vanderjagt 8 PK
PK2 Graham 10 Skip Pick 47 PK2
D/ST Pittsburgh 4 Cincy 10 Buffalo 9 Tampa Bay 7 New Eng. 7 Washington 3 Carolina 7 D/ST
D/ST2 St. Louis 9 Denver 9 Jacksonville 7 Minnesota 5 Dallas 9 D/ST2
DL Peppers 7 Kerney 8 Abraham 8 Berry 6 Henderson 7 Freeney 8 Strahan 5 DL
DL2 Ogunleye 4 DL2
LB Brooking 8 Peterson 7 Edwards 10 Sharper 8 Fletcher 9 Cowart 5 Morgan 7 LB
LB2 Peterson 6 Colvin 7 LB2
DB Archuleta 9 Davis 7 Barber 7 Azumah 4 Polamalu 4 Harrison 7 M Williams 10 DB
DB2 Jones 4 B Scott 8 D Robinson 3 DB2
Flex Arrington 3 Wong 3 June 8 Clark 5 Pierce 5 Wilson 9 Hartwell 8 Flex
 
334I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 41713300
Thu, Sep 01, 2005, 14:52 		Ouch... didn't realize Taxman had so much bye week issues. That's going to hurt a little.
 
336Bandos
Sustainer
ID: 279492419
Thu, Sep 01, 2005, 17:12 		20.11 Bryan Scott, DB, ATL

I had Scott ranked in the top couple of DB’s but I see he made the switch to FS from SS. Not sure what that will do to his close to 100 tackles. I figure I can use him to spell both LB as a flex and my DB. We will see how it works as a roster efficiency move.

21.12 Marcus Robinson, WR, MIN

Minnesota is supposed to be good, right? Daunte, ok too? Well, his bye week sucks which is why I didn’t draft Marcus rounds ago but in the 21st round the WR2 for Minny being available is puzzling. In Chicago he was not a factor as their QB’s kinda sucked. The 21 st round seems like a good round for this kind of high upside pick/ he might be dropped soon to fill bye issues.
 
337BoNkA
ID: 12811114
Thu, Sep 01, 2005, 17:18 		I think Motley got me confused with Kev in his recap. I didn't take Pitt in the 8th round. If you'd like to give them to me in exchange for the Chiefs, I'd be glad to do so. I'd have all Pennsylvania defenses(I live in PA).

I'll eventually get a recap done. I'll get to criticize myself for the RB and WR groups I drafted and could kill my season.
 
338Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Thu, Sep 01, 2005, 19:03 		MC wrote: "Oh, and Doug, when one of your Big 3 go down, and Henry, Anderson, and Mewelde are tearing it up for their respective teams… make your offer real good. It should include at least a pint of blood or a minor bodily organ."

Big 3!?!? I thought I had a Big 2!?!? And a small-but-servicable 1 to go along with...

Ah well, if the unlikely scenario occurs that one of my studs suffers a 5-week-or-more injury while you've simultaneously got 3+ starters "tearing it up for their respective teams", I shall count myself lucky that I still retain my appendix, and thus can include it in my offer it to satisfy the minor bodily organ requirement... I think it qualifies. I didn't read the fine print though.
 
339TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Thu, Sep 01, 2005, 21:11 		Athletics Guy, At QB, I selected Tom Brady. The fantasy manager in me says "This is great!" The Raiders fan says "Why?!" I don't know how I can root for this guy every week. I guess if he helps me win my matchups, I'll be happy. And if he stinks it up real bad, I'll be happy too. So, it's a win/win situation.

LOL- I think I am going to just copy and paste that into my draft recap. I still shake my head left and right that I drafted Brady as my starting QB. It was a fumble.
 
340Ender
ID: 406351010
Thu, Sep 01, 2005, 21:33 		19.13 Al Wilson LB DEN
I felt compelled to have a 3rd LB at this point. I was looking for a guy who gets his share of tackles. Big Al's name stuck out to me because he was solely responsible for one of my losses in another league last year. He had a monster game with a TD return (on a Monday night IIRC), it was absolute torture watching him get the pick and score.

20.02 Josh Brown K SEA IIRC I drafted Jeffy last season as well. I have no particular affinity towards him. It's just that if you wait forever to take a kicker and your one rule is that they have to play in a dome your likely to end up with him I guess.

21.13 Rosevelt Colvin LB NE
I was at school. My lists were at home. Colvin went to Purdue. That about sums it up. OK, OK, OK the thought that he may step it up a notch this year with a couple holes in the NE D did pass threw my mind, but that was pretty much a manufactured reason. I just thought it would be cool to have a Boilermaker on both sides of the ball.

I type these up and I just shake my head and laugh. Not because I think I'm a hilarious kind of guy, but because I marvel at how some of you guys can come up with actual analysis and real thought for guys taken beyond the say 17th round. I know, Motley, you took Gates in the 18th round last year (how many times have you slipped that into one of these rationales, we GET it ;)
 
341Athletics Guy
ID: 87513016
Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 04:38 		LOL TB, that was a tough pick for me. I know how you feel. As much as I love the Raiders, I think Brady is going to have a HUGE game against our defense in the season opener. Hopefully, it will be something like Oakland 42 New England 35. That would be a nice beginning for the Moss Era. :)
 
342Ender
Donor
ID: 013443221
Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 10:36 		Bandos, I totally forgot that my homer post was written under the wrong handle. I was relieved to see someone else forget to change hteir handle back just the other day. I'm not saying I'm not a dork sometimes, it's just a relief to see that I'm not the only one :)
 
343Motley Crue
Dude
ID: 439372011
Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 11:13 		Yeah, I waltzed in and out of threads calling myself "for leggestand" one whole day last week. As if that doesn't sound totally gay.

Not that there's anything wrong with that. But I'm not gay, and I'm not for leggestand.
 
344Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 11:25 		Looks like all rationales are in except for several rounds from each of Challenger, leggestand, and Taxman.

Thanks!
 
345Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 11:28 		Bandos is the only team with an incomplete roster at Fanball. He still needs 6 players.
 
346 Ender
ID: 26852210
Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 11:55 		Can someone please email a copy of Draft Dominator. I am trying to get on a laptop for a draft tonight. I can't just download to the laptop so I need to receive it via email.

Thanks in advance.
 
347TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 12:08 		It is in the send mode right now. 5 MB, so taking a minute to send.
 
348Ender
ID: 1710131316
Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 12:27 		Thanks, TB. Now all I need is for our network server to come back up :(
 
349TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 12:35 		It sent ok. If it doesn't come through or you need anything else, hit me back at my gmail addy and not the one I sent from. I rarely open that email and only use it when sending large files.
 
350Ender
ID: 1710131316
Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 12:37 		Thanks again. I can access the internet from my desktop, but I have to have server acces first on the laptop. If the server stays down, then I'm hosed. Not that I can't draft without DD, it just tracks everything so well.
 
351Ender
ID: 1710131316
Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 12:58 		It's there. The server still is not.
 
352FRICK@Work
ID: 220211
Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 13:45 		Ender, does the laptop have a USB port that you can plug a Memory Stick into?

 
353 Ender
ID: 16856212
Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 13:57 		Frick, I'm allove that option right now :)

I just need it resent to the new address in this post. If someone could resend it I would appreciate it.
 
354Ender
ID: 16856212
Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 14:09 		What a royal pain in the arse this whole thing has been. It should have been as simple as downloading the file from their site, but that was blocked. That's fine. I half expected that. I didn't expect not being able to download it from the first email address.

 
355Ender
Donor
ID: 013443221
Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 14:28 		OK, duh, just forwarded it to myself from the other address. I'm so annoyed that I can't even think straight. I gave up my whole lunch to get this done.
 
356Ender
Donor
ID: 013443221
Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 14:29 		CRAP! Firewall blocked the stinking email :( I'm still in need of someone to send it to me. It should work as long as it isn't coming from a web email address (like my other one).
 
357GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 14:38 		OK, just sent it.
You will need to change the extension from .ppt back to .exe

Looks like it went okay.

Cliff
 
358Ender
Donor
ID: 013443221
Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 14:39 		Thanks, I'll give it a look.
 
359Ender
Donor
ID: 013443221
Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 14:43 		Cliff, it bounced like that too. It appears I am up a creek. I'll have to go with cheat sheets.
 
360GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 14:45 		Hmm, don't know what else to try.
I guess I could try to zip it to make it smaller.

Let me see.

Cliff
 
361GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 14:47 		Here's the problem.

This is an automated message from the St. Bernard Software ePrism Email Security Appliance
at host lceprism.lakecentral.k12.in.us.

A mail from you (clifford.dilling@navy.mil) to (bgray@lakecentral.k12.in.us)
was stopped and Rejected because it contains one or more
forbidden attachments.

Summary of email contents:

Queue ID: 6F5C6FFD68
DRAFTD60l_Setup.ppt
forbidden attachment (detected as .exe)
 
362Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 14:51 		Rather than haranguing Bandos about it, I simply added the 6 missing players to his roster. It now appears that all rosters are full (except for leggestand, who skipped one pick.)

As such, I have now locked out the ability to pick up free agents. If you notice an incorrect player on your roster, please notify me ASAP, and I'll make the substitution.

The list of free agents at Fanball should therefore be accurate. If you want to claim one of those players as part of the post-draft claiming process, you must send me an email stating the player to be added, and the player to be released. The priority order for this process is listed in post 290. I must receive your claim by midnight, Sunday, Sept. 4th.

If there are any claims, I will process them early Monday morning (Sept. 5th). At that time, I will re-enable everyone's ability to pick up free agents on a first come, first served basis. The claim priorities, after adjustment for any awarded claims, will be applied to any waiver claims for the rest of the week. Waiver claims would only be applied to any players who are dropped during the week.
 
363Ender
Donor
ID: 013443221
Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 14:51 		Yeah, I thought we could get around it somehow, but obviously not.

Oh well, I (and you guys) tried.
 
364Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 14:56 		Ender, I have a copy as well. I can try putting it on my server, and then send you a URL to access it. I assume you can access rotoguru1.com, since you are posting here.
 
365Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 15:08 		Ender - email with URL sent to the lakecentral email address. Is that the proper one to use?
 
366Ender
Donor
ID: 013443221
Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 15:45 		It's actually a fellow teachers due to the server trouble, but it'll work.

I just tried it and it's throwing back any page with a .exe extension. Thanks again for all the help guys. It's a shame I can't get it done. I'm confident in my ability to draft without it, but it would have been a help to our commish to track all the teams easily.
 
367Bandos
Sustainer
ID: 279492419
Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 17:47 		no haranguing was necessary - I was actually at the screen twice and ...

sorry.
 
368leggestand
ID: 17744278
Sun, Sep 04, 2005, 20:00 		Back in town guys. Thanks for getting my pick(s) in. I will have the missing rationales and pick in tonight, and my draft recap tomorrow.

And post 343 made me laugh.
 
369Guru
ID: 330592710
Sun, Sep 04, 2005, 21:31 		So far, I have received three emailed claims for undrafted players. I will process them (and any others) tomorrow morning, probably between 8-9 am, and then release all free agents, after which you can pick them up, first come, first served.
 
370leggestand
ID: 17744278
Sun, Sep 04, 2005, 21:44 		Since I skipped my last pick, am I putting a waiver claim in for someone if I want to drop "Skip Pick?" If so, I will wait until everyone is a free agent to add a player.
 
375holt
      ID: 26810414
      Mon, Sep 05, 2005, 00:42 		hey guru - any plans to do a hockey invitational league?
 
376Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Sep 05, 2005, 08:47 		holt[375] - no
 
377Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Sep 05, 2005, 08:53 		The following three claims were processed this morning:

Motley: waive RB Ciatrick Fason MIN and pick up PK Todd Peterson ATL

Bandos: waive Marcus Robinson, WR, MIN and pick up Ben Watson, TE, NE

BoNkA: waive David Boston, WR, MIA and pick up Marty Booker, WR, MIA

You should now be able to add/drop players. It's not clear whether dropped players will go on waivers this week (prior to the start of the season) or not. I guess will find out if/when someone is dropped. (It may be that waivers start after the first lockout.)

I can't find any link to set up waiver priorities or to claim players, which causes me to suspect that this feature may not activate until after the first freeze.
 
378Ender
      ID: 406351010
      Mon, Sep 05, 2005, 11:00 		Does that mean we will handle that manually or that dropped players (including the 3 above) are up for grabs?
 
379Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Sep 05, 2005, 16:19 		I suppose that we should administer it manually, although I rechecked our league settings, and dropped players in the preseason are supposed to go on waivers. I'll submit a ticket to see what's up.

Meanwhile, if you want to claim a dropped player, send me an email.
 
380Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Sep 05, 2005, 17:05 		Fanball responded that the waiver system is not activated until after the first weekend.

I did, however, code up the rules to say that during the preseason, dropped players may not be added for 48 hours. So, supposedly, if you try to add a dropped player during the first 48 hours after he is dropped, you will be prevented from doing so.

Assuming this is true, send me an email if you want to claim one of these players, and I will administer manually.