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Subject: Gurupie 24 Discussion '05 IV

  Posted by: Ref - Donor [539581218] Tue, Oct 18, 2005, 10:37
We continue...

10 teams are at 4-1 or better, including 6 from our NFC. Unfortunately, only four teams from each division advance to the playoffs. Still plenty of time. Though Doug has the best record as mentioned in the last thread, StL Cards' 49ers (what a name) has taken over the overall PF lead that will be used in case of a tie. After two impressive weeks in a row, I looked up his game history from our G20/24 web site and notices that he's now been high points for the week 5 times (tied for 2nd) and hit 100 points 5 times in his career, just outside the top 5 by a single week. I will make the adjustments in our record book.
 
1Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Wed, Oct 19, 2005, 18:37 		The Chiefs are receiving "hourly" updates from the NFL regarding their game in Miami this Sunday. Because of Hurricane Wilma, they game could be moved to Monday night or later in the season. Oct. 19 - 2:45 pm et

Note: If this game is moved to later in the season, we will have to make a decision on scoring in the best interest of our league. I can't imagine a team playing twice in one week and have no idea what we would do in that case. This would be a commish nightmare not to mention any of the teams (like me) who have Chiefs or Dolphins on your squad. At first thought we make that game count for this week, but that would be very difficult. Again, no clue. Hopefully we won't get to it. I'm hearing that some people in Tampa are already making plans to evacuate just in case.
 
2StLCards
      Leader
      ID: 31010716
      Wed, Oct 19, 2005, 18:58 		That scenario would be a nightmare indeed. Lots of problems either way.

Too bad they couln't just move it to Jacksonville or something. So far we have had New Orleans with a "home" game in New York, and Arizona with a "home" game in Mexico City.
 
3Myboyjack
      Dude
      ID: 014826271
      Wed, Oct 19, 2005, 19:02 		They've used Monday in a similar situation in recent years
 
4Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Wed, Oct 19, 2005, 19:02 		News: KCChiefs.com reports the contest between the Kansas City Chiefs and Miami Dolphins that is scheduled to be played in South Florida might be moved to Monday night or to K.C. due to Hurrcane Wilma.

That would be a much better solution. A postponement would be a horrible for players and worse for the fantasy teams! ;)
 
5Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Wed, Oct 19, 2005, 19:03 		Monday is fine, but if they postpone it to a later week and have to play a game on a Sun/Thurs/Sun for instance--that would be bad for the players. Not sure they could even do that.
 
6Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Wed, Oct 19, 2005, 19:09 		Btw, the opening post should read that 10 teams are 4-2 or better.

A few have seen this, but we have put up a poll on the league site about the proposed keeper reductions. You have 3 choices, now, wait a year or keep it the same. The vote is very close so far, so we need maximum participation.
 
7StLCards
      Leader
      ID: 31010716
      Thu, Oct 20, 2005, 13:31 		Here is the latest note from CBS. Based on this note, I would plan on setting Pick'ems before the Friday freeze and also picking up any free agents before then as well.

Chiefs/Dolphins Game Moved to Friday Night!!!!
Due the the effects of Hurricane Wilma, the Kansas City Chiefs @ Miami Dolphins game has been moved up to Friday Oct. 21st at 7:00 PM. This means that you will need to make sure that any transactions/selections are set in accordance with your league/pool's deadline. As usual no add/drops will be allowed once games begin for the week.
 
8Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Thu, Oct 20, 2005, 21:23 		Thanks to Promize who emailed the entire league so everyone should now know about it before leaving for the weekend. I saw that before I saw it in the threads or news.
 
9Promize
      ID: 18111210
      Fri, Oct 21, 2005, 21:47 		Looks like several teams forgot the pickem's this week.
 
10Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Fri, Oct 21, 2005, 21:54 		UGH! Well Promize, you emailed them and I added it to the commish msg. Don't know what else to do, but I bet many were still caught off-guard.
 
11TB
      Sherpa
      ID: 031811922
      Fri, Oct 21, 2005, 23:04 		I hate that I didn't get my pick'ems in. I got the email, so it's my own fault. I just wish a big ole site like cbs could figure out how to lock that one game and let us pick the rest of them.
 
12Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Fri, Oct 21, 2005, 23:12 		Problem with that TB is that some of us have those players going so you'd be tipped off how that team might do. If I had a couple guys score 60, it's pretty easy to pick me to win--esp if those guys weren't supposed to do well.
 
13TB
      Sherpa
      ID: 031811922
      Fri, Oct 21, 2005, 23:19 		That makes sense. I must be working too hard. I was thinking Miami and KC....sheesh.
 
14THK on fall break
      ID: 34982212
      Sat, Oct 22, 2005, 14:09 		Damn, missed pick ems...
 
15Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Sun, Oct 23, 2005, 13:25 		Ugh, Graham missed a 29 yd FG...go figure.
 
16Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Sun, Oct 23, 2005, 19:49 		Well Volek getting knocked out cost me almost any chance to win. Garcia turned out to be the best choice afterall. Now Atl needs to score a TON of points and not turn the ball over.
 
17THK new home
      ID: 27752210
      Sun, Oct 23, 2005, 21:01 		DAMN YOU COWBOYS! My favorite team gives up 10 points in the last 1 minute and loses me 1st place in my division of .2 points!!! .2?!?!?!? Are you kidding me?!?!?!

THK
 
18Doug
      Leader
      ID: 02730280
      Mon, Oct 24, 2005, 03:15 		Would you be equally vocal if you had won by .2?
 
19THK new home
      ID: 27752210
      Mon, Oct 24, 2005, 11:16 		Of course! I would be bragging about my luck! ;-)

THK
 
20Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Mon, Oct 24, 2005, 23:16 		Holy Smokes! The Jets D is trying to hand me the game!
 
21Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, Oct 25, 2005, 00:08 		And if Dunn can get a 11 or 12 yd run here, Yokel will come from behind to win.
 
22Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, Oct 25, 2005, 00:13 		wow, what a finish. Dunn got just enough on the last rush of the game to propel the Jags over the Raiders.
 
23Slackjawed Yokel
      Leader
      ID: 052347519
      Tue, Oct 25, 2005, 00:23 		yeah, if Vick would've just let him score a TD after he did all the work it wouldn't have come down to that... Definitely my highest output of the season - would've sucked to have lost (sorry Doug, nice score w/o a qb, though)

Now I'll have to see if my random selection pick'em strategy worked any better than the 2 I got right last week actually trying.
 
24Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, Oct 25, 2005, 00:26 		I hate leaving guys on the bench that would have won me the game. Furthermore, benching my regulars like toomer as I thought Patten's opponent would give him more points and benching garcia at the last minute to put in Volek. Either one gets me the win. Oh well. Three straight losses now. Going from the Penthouse to the Outhouse again just like last year.
 
25blackjackis21
      Dude
      ID: 034837521
      Tue, Oct 25, 2005, 10:28 		Yeah, sorry THK. I'm going to put that in the Ugly Win column - which, of course, is a win nonetheless.

I still can't believe Moss played.
 
26Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, Oct 25, 2005, 12:02 		Found 5 scores that needed to be adjusted. Every team has lost at least twice and the only team that hasn't won at least two is our Champion from last year.

Coyotes nailed 10 in Pick'ems to win the week and take a two game lead on the season.
 
27StLCards
      Leader
      ID: 31010716
      Tue, Oct 25, 2005, 12:12 		I'm looking for a scrub QB that will start in week 9. Willing to give up my waiver priority (currently #2 overall). I am likely to claim someone tonight though if I don't get any offers so let me know.
 
28Doug
      Leader
      ID: 02730280
      Tue, Oct 25, 2005, 13:58 		LOL... trading waiver priority! That's a new one... very creative, StL! =-)
 
29Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, Oct 25, 2005, 15:27 		Well basically, he would pick up whatever player someone wanted with his priority and trade him for a scrub QB.
 
30Perm Dude
      Dude
      ID: 030792616
      Tue, Oct 25, 2005, 15:35 		I'd like to trade for some more points for last week. Anyone have some extra points they don't need?

:)
 
31Doug
      Leader
      ID: 02730280
      Tue, Oct 25, 2005, 15:42
Talk to my opponent.
 
32StLCards
      Leader
      ID: 31010716
      Tue, Oct 25, 2005, 15:44 		Actually I was thinking more along the lines that the commish would edit the waiver priority. So let's say that Doug wanted to trade with me because he sees a player that he wants and knows he likely can't get with a 14th waiver wire priority, so he trades me player x for my #2 priority. We would then edit the waiver priority to move Doug to 2nd and drop the 49ers to 14th or last or whatever the details of the trade were.
 
33Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, Oct 25, 2005, 15:51 		OK, I 2nd Doug's post.
 
34Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, Oct 25, 2005, 15:56 		To update, only 15 of the 24 managers have responded to the poll on the site about keepers.
 
35Promize
      ID: 26952515
      Tue, Oct 25, 2005, 17:10 		STL is trying everything possible to beat me this week.. lol
 
36Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, Oct 25, 2005, 18:07 		StL, I may have something for you, but not for the ww spot.
 
37rockafellerskank
      ID: 180352016
      Tue, Oct 25, 2005, 22:23 		...and the only team that hasn't won at least two is our Champion from last year.

And Reggie Bush will look good on this team neaxt year (or whoever the new owner wants). Maybe a QB.

This has been a tough year. yep, I won last year and I win the last pick in the draft and the past WW priority too. No complaints, but geeeeezzzz!

Pennington out for the year.
Eric Johnson (SF's leading receiver as a TE last year and a keeper) didn't play a down and out for the year, Dropped. And musical TE every since.
I drafted Chad's back up as "insurance" and he went out.
Rattay made my 3rd QB and he lost his job and then ot traded or he might have been playing now. (PS Smith isn't near ready SF!)
Duce no play all year.
Emmitt retired = 1 more lost RB.
Goings was a point scorer last year = scrub this year.
I tried to get every back up with the possibility of playing (Bouman, Detmer, etc..)

My #24 WW priority means I missed out on all players that could help me (Stecker, even back up TE's such as Baker)

For those that don't know, and so that you think this is not cause my team is floundering, I have decided to stop playing fantasy sports due to it's conflict with my real life.

So.... I'm gettng close to the point that I'd move spme players for draft picks and some younger players. Maybe I have some key pieces you may need to win nw and I canleave my team in good shape for the next owner.

Make offers.



 
38rockafellerskank
      ID: 180352016
      Wed, Oct 26, 2005, 22:23 		You guys scared now?

I got a QB this week (starting) and a back up running bcak that might score 2.0

I'm gonna make a run!


However, if anyone needs a bye week filled for QB (Dorsey) or a K or a D/ST or a deal for a decent WR ie T. Glenn? <--- MY BEST PLAYER!!!!.... contact me. Picks next year on my only motivation. Got a few deals in the works for the D, so best offer in the next 24 hours takes it.

 
39Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Thu, Oct 27, 2005, 12:46 		We've had less trades this year by far than any other year. Just approved a traded and noticed that it's the first one in exchange for a draft pick in 2 months. Weird.
 
40Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Thu, Oct 27, 2005, 22:50 		I'll likely be unreachable until sunday afternoon/evening. Contact StL Cards if you need a commish.
 
41StLCards
      Leader
      ID: 31010716
      Fri, Oct 28, 2005, 09:59 		Trade approved between the Steelers and Oakland. rfs's Steelers gets Porter and Doug's Raiders gets Glenn.
 
42beastiemiked
      Sustainer
      ID: 03531815
      Fri, Oct 28, 2005, 10:13 		I've got an interesting dilemma. Both Manning and Brady are facing tough pass defenses(Was and Buf). IMO, Manning is a slightly better start since he has huge game potential, however, if he busts out presumably Toomer and Burress would benefit. Since Ref has both WR's and I am holding the defense(Washington) that Manning would breakout on it might be smarter for me to start Brady. Ref already has a huge advantage on me and a win from my team would be unlikely with Manning, I'd say around 10%, but with Brady it becomes closer to 20%. I'll have to mull it over a little bit longer but I think this might be the first time I ever start a player over another player eventhough I think on average he'll do worse.
 
43StLCards
      Leader
      ID: 31010716
      Sun, Oct 30, 2005, 02:23 		It looks to me like the waiver process is not working correctly. Players dropped during the 10/26 waiver process have not yet cleared waivers even though they should have cleared on Saturday AM and it is now Sunday AM. Guess it must be related to cbs running on backup power or whatever. Not sure what to do about it either.
 
44StLCards
      Leader
      ID: 31010716
      Sun, Oct 30, 2005, 11:01 		I have turned the waiver process off to allow owners the chance to pick up players that should have cleared waivers already. That is the only option I could think of. If a player was dropped on Saturday, he should still be considered to be on waivers. Waivers will resume 5 minutes before game time, so please refrain from picking anyone up then if I haven't yet turned waivers back on by then.
thanks.
 
45StLCards
      Leader
      ID: 31010716
      Sun, Oct 30, 2005, 13:03 		Waivers have now been turned back on. Hopefully things will work normally going forward.
 
46THK new home
      ID: 27752210
      Sun, Oct 30, 2005, 19:41 		I put up some points and I am going to pull out a W, while it looks like GB and NYG will drop a game to put me at first in my division, even after the loss of Duece! ;-)

THK
 
47smallwhirled
      ID: 46914248
      Sun, Oct 30, 2005, 22:34 		My matchup with CC is slipping away. During the day my lead was huge, but Tatum Bell and now Eric Moulds are probably going to cost me...
 
48Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Mon, Oct 31, 2005, 09:23 		Well bmd's dilemma saved him. He had horrible luck and fumblitis, but his QB switch prevented him from the lowest score ever. How frustrating. In fact, several performances this week are going to hit our record books, both good and bad.
 
49beastiemiked
      Sustainer
      ID: 03531815
      Mon, Oct 31, 2005, 16:28 		Yeah, I'm not too proud of that score and it looks like it will get adjusted down some more once negative yards are calculated. If only the score of that NYG-WAS would've been reversed, I might've kept it close.

Despite getting crushed, it appears if the regular season was over today we would still make the playoffs. I'm not sure how to proceed with the rest of the season, throwing in the towel while still holding onto the last playoff spot would seem a bit odd. In any case, Brady and Harrison might be available for a team looking to boost their team for a playoff run.
 
50Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, Nov 01, 2005, 10:09 		Found a few adjustments. Remember on your live scoring that blocked FGs are not on there. They are put up the next day. The standings are tightly packed. Everyone has lost at least two games and everyone has won at least two games. Remember if you win your division, you'll have no lower than 2nd seed in the playoffs.

Two teams had 11 right in Pick'ems. Promize and Coyotes are tied for first.

Several changes in record book: Most times high points for the week (season), Lowest total for the week overall, Most times Highest Points For the Week -- Overall, Largest Margin of Victory and Most times to score 100 points/Overall.

Grats to StL Cards for hitting top 5 in most of those records. MBJ has now won 4 in a row after dropping his first 4 to have the longest winnings streak.
 
51Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, Nov 01, 2005, 12:10 		21 of our 24 members have voted on our keeper poll on the front page of our site.
 
52Action Figure
      ID: 130173010
      Tue, Nov 01, 2005, 23:57 		My team is not good.
 
53beastiemiked
      Sustainer
      ID: 03531815
      Fri, Nov 04, 2005, 09:28 		The Cardinals and the Texans have agreed to the first blockbuster of the season. The Texans send Tom Brady, Marvin Harrison, and Artose Pinner to the Cardinals for Fred Taylor, Anquan Boldin, and Josh McCown.

 
54Promize
      ID: 26952515
      Fri, Nov 04, 2005, 18:04 		Is there a new website for the record book? Cause I don't see any updates for 2005 in it.
 
55StLCards
      Leader
      ID: 31010716
      Fri, Nov 04, 2005, 18:13 		ref has been updating the rules on the main cbs site to show current records thru this week.
 
56Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Fri, Nov 04, 2005, 21:06 		I have all the updates on the record book on our gurupies web site except for this past weeks. But I do have the league site as current. What I may do is leave the gurupies page alone until after the season. Updating and coding the web site page takes awhile whereas there is no coding to do on the cbs site.
 
57Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Fri, Nov 04, 2005, 21:08 		League Records
 
58Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Sun, Nov 06, 2005, 15:33 		Luckily, I'm watching the Cincy game when this stat popped up on my computer screen:

S. Graham K CIN 17 @ BAL 6 11:34 4Q
4th and 21 at BAL 27
FG (93), MFG (47), 2 XP 8

Nice 93 yd FG!
 
59Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, Nov 08, 2005, 00:50 		Apparently Priest won't play next week either and there is a chance he could miss the rest of the year. I am not deep enough to hold him and take that chance, but if someone else is or wants to rebuild for next year, let me know. First decent offer takes him. Got a couple last week that were close.
 
60Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, Nov 08, 2005, 11:04 		Found 5 adjustments this week. Is it just me or do some of the standings look "funny" this year? THK's Vikings are in first. After that trade, I am floored he's up there. Let's face it, KJ hasn't exactly lived up to thk's hype, but it's H2H and all you gotta do is have more points than the team your playing that week! CT's Cardinals are killing in points and took top honors this week with over 114. He's a game behind thk, but all he needs to do is make that game up to win with all those tiebreaking points on his side.

The AFC East is not the juggernaut of old. My Colts are in first even with three straight tough luck weeks (well 2 of 3 anyhow). And even with another loss after losing his first 4, mbj's Bengals still has a shot at the playoffs and in 2nd place--still one game out of the final playoff spot.

The top teams in the AFC East reside in the West, yeah that's right, the West. Typically the laughing stock of the league has risen up. SW's Chiefs and Doug's Raiders are 7-2. Both have had some luck along the way and both have eeked out a win over my Colts. Albeit, both are strong and should make the playoffs. Both are a game up on the Colts so it should be between those two for the top seed. However, a mistep by either could spell disaster as the Colts have a miniscule edge in points. The Colts have had an arguably tougher schedule up to this point but the Colts are banged up with injuries. bmd's Texans are going the wrong way and lost two straight, but would still own the final spot in the playoffs if the season ended today.

The Best of the Best is the NFC South. Every team has won at least 4 games. However, the only true dominant team looks to be StL Cards' 49ers who just missed hitting 100 again this week. And with the way CT's Cardinals are doing (esp after that blockbuster trade gave him a boost), could be that only two teams from the South make the cut. bj21's revamped Rams are 6-3 and Pete's Cowboys have been perhaps the luckiest team in the league this year and sit at 6-3. Who knows where we will be in a few weeks.

New leader in Pick'ems. My Colts and Promize's Seahawks are tied at 77, but 6 teams have between 75 and 77 right. For the 2nd week in a row the Raiders got 11 right. The Rams and Texans also picked 11 correctly.

The NFC smoked the AFC again this week. In both week 5 and week 9, the two weeks of interleague play, the NFC went 8-4.
 
61beastiemiked
      Sustainer
      ID: 03531815
      Tue, Nov 08, 2005, 11:45 		Ouch, not only does Taylor go down with an injury but Harrison puts up a huge game that would've propelled me to a victory. Tough week to say the least.
 
62Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, Nov 08, 2005, 12:39 		Chiefs face the Raiders today. Looking at their schedules and the winner should win the East's #1 seed, but upsets do happen! Bye weeks are almost done though.
 
63THK new home
      ID: 27752210
      Tue, Nov 08, 2005, 14:20 		KJ sure hasn't lived up to my hype! The deal worked out exactly how I expected however....

Steve Smith...very good
Stallworth...not great
#5...not good
1st next year...OUCH

Now KJ is hurt, along with Duece and my team is reeling. Anybody want to make a play for Duece, let me know...

THK
 
64Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Wed, Nov 09, 2005, 00:41 		OK, before anyone else calls me an idiot for this horrible trade, let me just say I panicked and this was the best offer I got. I know that Vermeil thinks that Priest will play this week, but we're not just talking concussion, but the spine and for a guy that has talked retirement in the past, I just didn't want to get nothing for him if he was hurt. If he plays I'm screwed and if he doesn't I was screwed. The only way this helps me is if Priest retires and it may help me a smidge only for this year if he's done for the year but kill me next year. So I took a chance. Doubt if the guys I got help me much, but better than nothing if Priest is done.
 
65THK new home
      ID: 27752210
      Wed, Nov 09, 2005, 01:44 		My bet is Priest is done. Of course what you get in return isn't much, but from what I have both heard and read you actually got a steal for a player that will never set foot on a football field again.

THK
 
66TB
      ID: 1286814
      Wed, Nov 09, 2005, 12:13 		I just want to go on record saying I don't think this trade should be allowed.

From this link: http://www.kshb.com/kshb/nw_local_news/article/0,1925,KSHB_9424_4224365,00.html

Priest Holmes' Career May Be Over
November 9, 2005

Insiders at Arrowhead Stadium tell NBC Action News Sports Director Jack Harry that Priest Holmes, very possibly, has played his final game in a Chiefs uniform. One highly placed source tells Harry, Holmes could announce his retirement as soon as Thursday.

The 32-year-old running back arrived back in town Tuesday night from Miami after undergoing some extensive testing on his spine. Doctors reportedly found a lump and should Holmes take a severe hit, he could become paralyzed. At his weekly press conference Tuesday, head coach Dick Vermeil indicated he didn't really know what was going on with Holmes.

Holmes has already undergone three knee surgeries. He has failed to finish two of the last 3 seasons. He suffered the head injury in the San Diego game, and has now learned of this latest problem with his spine.

I was looking at his profile last night. 32 years old, 9th NFL season and high mileage. If he comes back and plays a couple more years at his previous levels then the Pittsburgh team is getting a lopsided deal. If he never plays again, you just traded Patten for Porter, a starting kicker, and another starting WR. Too much uncertainty with Holmes status to make this a fair trade. It is like when the oddsmakers turn the betting line off on game because key players statuses are uncertain. I suppose my mind could be changed if RFS wanted to share his rationale for making this trade. I understand this is his last season in this league and Holmes isn't going to impact his team for this season. Just wondering how Holmes fits in the long-term plans with that team.
 
67Peter N.
      ID: 228471316
      Wed, Nov 09, 2005, 12:27 		Agreed, I'd be really interested to hear rfs' rationale on how trading for Holmes at this point fits into the long-term plans for his team.
 
68StLCards
      Leader
      ID: 31010716
      Wed, Nov 09, 2005, 12:57 		It's far from certain that Holmes is going to retire as of right now. Probably know more later today. TB raises a good point though. This is really a speculative trade with each side gambling on the health of a player. When all is said and done, one side will be getting a good deal. So the real question is should a speculative deal be allowed where the health is in question and the career outcome is unkown. In baseball this year there was a trade involving an injured player with a possible career ending injury, but it was not veto'd. I don't know the answer to allowing a speculative trade where career status is unkown. This could have implications for trying to trade players with severe injuries down the road too. People are speculating that Holmes is done forever, but what if he comes back next year? Personally I thought Promize was nuts for holding onto Ricky Williams as a keeper. What if he had tried to trade him last year while he wasn't even playing? Tough questions.


rfs - care to post your rationale?



KSHB reported Wednesday that doctors had found a lump on Holmes' spine and were concerned about possible paralysis should he take a direct hit. Citing a highly-placed source it didn't identify, the station said Holmes could announce his retirement as soon as Thursday.

Holmes' agent, Todd France, was traveling Wednesday and not immediately available. An employee of France's agency, who asked not to be named, disputed the report and said suggestions that Holmes was about to retire were inaccurate.

 
69deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 017103420
      Wed, Nov 09, 2005, 14:05 		Link to article - KSHB Local News

 
70Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Wed, Nov 09, 2005, 16:36 		Yeah, it's a real crapshoot. However, when we made the deal, it was being reported that Vermeil expected Holmes to play this week. The deal was made yesterday. I've read conflicting and flip-flopping reports all day. Both of us are taking a chance.
 
71Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Wed, Nov 09, 2005, 16:38 		Let me repharase. We did the trade on the 8th. This info that TB announced is coming out on the 9th. Officially the latest I've read today is that Priest may not return for the season, but will not retire. Supposed to be a news conference at 5:00.
 
72Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Wed, Nov 09, 2005, 17:29 		Btw, TB, the trade has already been allowed. However, you may protest this trade as G24 rules stipulate. Obviously, since I am involved, I won't be a part of the process.
 
73 StLCards
      Leader
      ID: 31010716
      Wed, Nov 09, 2005, 17:39 		I have requested and received a rationale from rfs about the Holmes trade. He is currently on the road, so I am posting it for him.

ref asked for Mushin and Porter. I countered with Porter et al...

I know priest may be done, but I've also seen reports that dont rule him out for the year. I've already got 2 WR keepers for next year, so giving the 3rd WR for a starting RB is worth the risk. Did you see the lack of any rbs on my team until I just got Duce back? To me that is risk reward. I know this is a risk, but staying pat is going to keeep landing me in last place for multiple years. Let's say that Priest is a bust.... would
Porter have helped me climb the ladder next year? I think QBs and RBs are worth risks in this league.

The current status of Holmes is that he has been placed on IR, but the Chiefs are adamant that he will be back next year. There is no word other than unsubsantiated rumor that Holmes is retiring.

If anyone still has objections, please either post them here, or you can email me. Confidentiality will be maintained if email is sent.
 
74Myboyjack
      Dude
      ID: 014826271
      Wed, Nov 09, 2005, 19:48 		FWIW - right before the trade was announced, I was trying to put together an offer that would have been, IMHO, a better deal for Ref, than rfs' was.
 
75deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 017103420
      Wed, Nov 09, 2005, 20:16 		Chiefs' Holmes won't return this season
 
76TB
      Sherpa
      ID: 031811922
      Wed, Nov 09, 2005, 21:27 		I appreciate the feedback from RFS. I was probably focusing more on the risk and less on the reward for the Steelers. I think Holmes career is over and in hindsight this deal will prove to be very lopsided. I admit that I am too conservative, though. With MBJ trying to get Holmes too, I am probably in the minority on my Holmes assessment. I hope Holmes is able to come back and play next year and prove me wrong.
 
77Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Wed, Nov 09, 2005, 22:13 		I was called an idiot by a couple people after making this deal. I know StL Cards was pissed as he was willing to offer quite a bit more. He said it was unlike me panicking like I did. He is right. If Priest comes back next year, I definitely screwed up. If he came back this year, I screwed up big time. In the back of my mind, I was thinking that Priest has gotten hurt every single year and I'm sick of it. Of course, when he does play, he can be HUGE!!!
 
78THK new home
      ID: 27752210
      Wed, Nov 09, 2005, 22:53 		1) He is going to retire
2) If he doesn't, he won't ever be as effective because he will never see as many touches again (LJ will settle into that spot for good now).

 
79rockafellerskank
      ID: 180352016
      Thu, Nov 10, 2005, 08:52 		I don't have much time, but anyone is welcome to e-mail to discuss the trade. Otherwie, i will accept whatever decison the commish/league decides.

I will say, I was 100% aware of the possibility of Priest retirement. I was/am prepared to take that risk.

 
80Twarpy
      ID: 279342714
      Fri, Nov 11, 2005, 13:28 		Well my team has gone the way of the injury, so Im looking to sell a couple of players. If anyone has any interest in any of my players, note I don't want 3 for 1's, than feel free to inquire.

Also up for sale would be my #1 Waiver Wire priority for the next couple of weeks, of course it would depend on who is available, but if you feel lucky I would be up for "trading it" before too.
 
81Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Fri, Nov 11, 2005, 13:40 		I've had some inquiries for Volek in the past. Not sure I want to trade him or not, but will consider all offers. Btw, better make it quick as I've got some things in the works, with and without Volek.
 
82Promize
      ID: 26952515
      Sat, Nov 12, 2005, 07:53 		Dad says "No he isn't talking retirement"
 
83Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Sat, Nov 12, 2005, 10:39 		Football Plaque is up.
 
84Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Sun, Nov 13, 2005, 21:33 		Porter is back to being a scrub with Moss' re-emergence. Lindell got me a big -2 and finneran only 50 yds. I really wish I wouldn't have made that trade. At least I have a little depth in case of an injury--but not too many points for depth at all. Oh well.
 
85StLCards
      ID: 371044221
      Sun, Nov 13, 2005, 21:34 		That South Division is too tough! I realized that even with a win today and going to 8-2, I could still miss the playoffs!
 
86rockafellerskank
      ID: 180352016
      Sun, Nov 13, 2005, 22:18 		I didn't hear anything else about the Priest deal. I'm still not totally easy--- If Priest is considering retirement, doesn't it bode better for him to do the IR thing and wait so he keeps getting KC paychecks?

Odd that I played Ref this week. I certainly didn't help him (yet) as Porter and Lindel bombed. Unless D22 goes for 40.0 second half points.

What a bad game SF-CHI with Pickett V Orton combined for 1.20 fantasy points. I'm sure that's an (un)official record!

Welcome Reggie Bush.
 
87THK new home
      ID: 27752210
      Mon, Nov 14, 2005, 00:01 		Well without Palmer and CJ my team can't do a thing. Zona moves into a tie for first place but his points are unreal. My SOS had been amazing until this week a light score still beat me...

THK
 
88blackjackis21
      Dude
      ID: 034837521
      Mon, Nov 14, 2005, 00:03 		Tell me about it StL - Assuming McNabb doesn't go backward tomorrow night, I'll have won 5 in a row and not gained a game on you! Looks like 7-3 and tied for 2nd. I almost feel I should apologize for a Gado-induced win this weekend...
 
89StLCards
      Leader
      ID: 31010716
      Mon, Nov 14, 2005, 16:16 		I've been looking forward to the next two games all season when I finally get to meet the Rams and Cowboys. Somebody is going down! Of course, if McNabb throws and INT on the first play and leaves the game tonight, then I may just rest my players next week ;)
 
90Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Mon, Nov 14, 2005, 22:26 		Anybody looking at SW's and Doug's game? Winner will have the best record in the AFC. Currently it's .04 difference, but Doug has some negative yds included.
 
91smallwhirled
      ID: 4110581411
      Mon, Nov 14, 2005, 22:59 		real close....
 
92StLCards
      ID: 371044221
      Tue, Nov 15, 2005, 00:55 		Looks like the Chiefs will win a close one and move into first place.

BJ21, Hopefully McNabb will be able to play next week as I wouldn't want the game handed to me ;)
 
93blackjackis21
      Dude
      ID: 034837521
      Tue, Nov 15, 2005, 01:03 		Beware El Gado!
 
94Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, Nov 15, 2005, 12:17 		I think I caught all the corrections and updated all the movement in the record book on our league rules. If I overlooked any, let me know. Thk's horrible week not only possibly cost him a playoff spot, but picking him, hurt me bad in pick'ems. Promize now has the top spot by himself, but six teams still all within 2 games. Despite Cards' concern, the playoffs possibilities are getting a lot clearer now. Still, one bad week can change some things.
 
95THK
      ID: 510431422
      Tue, Nov 15, 2005, 16:11 		Cost myself a playoff spot despite the fact I am 6th in the power rankings! Damn NFC is solid...

You picking me was your mistake though without Palmer and CJ! ;-)

THK
 
96Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, Nov 15, 2005, 21:48 		But you were playing Twarpy who is basically going through the motions and if you'd have started the right guys you still could have won. I had to make my picks well in advance as I was out of town and thought you might try and make a trade, but there hasn't been much of that this year oddly enough.
 
97THK
      ID: 510431422
      Tue, Nov 15, 2005, 22:22 		Started the right guys?!?! Please tell me who you would have actually started over who I played before seeing how they scored?

Anybody picking my team without Palmer and CJ is taking a considerable risk without a doubt. I wasn't favored by the almightly preview by CBS and I was playing with an entire player who is a major force.

Point is...my team competing right now is just a plesant suprised. I am without my best player and my young stud aquistion doesn't have any help on the line or through the air and hasn't done anything. Personally I know Zona is a better team but my team continues to preform. I still have a legit shot at a WC slot and that's amazing to me.

THK
 
98rockafellerskank
      ID: 180352016
      Wed, Nov 16, 2005, 09:30 		I believe I now hold the (un)official record for the most QBs on a roster at any given point = 5! Additionally, I'll bet their combined scores this week will be less than 3.0 and had I gotten McMahon, I'd have 6!



 
99blackjackis21
      Dude
      ID: 034837521
      Wed, Nov 16, 2005, 13:28 		StL - that's just plain not nice, taking McMahon from me like that!

I'm shocked! ;)
 
100StLCards
      Leader
      ID: 31010716
      Wed, Nov 16, 2005, 14:46 		Maybe we can trade for El Gado ;)
 
101GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 060151121
      Wed, Nov 16, 2005, 15:12 		bj,
Make me an offer for Bollinger.

Cliff
 
102blackjackis21
      Dude
      ID: 034837521
      Wed, Nov 16, 2005, 15:21 		I may indeed have to take a look at avail. QB's... I'll get back to you Cliff, and AZ Cards.
 
103rockafellerskank
      ID: 180352016
      Wed, Nov 16, 2005, 15:25 		BJ21 -- One of my QBs may play this weekend. I'd be open to moving anyone of your choice for a scrub + a draft pick.
 
104Peter N.
      ID: 431054174
      Thu, Nov 17, 2005, 19:09 		Only in a fantasy football league would I be rooting for the 49ers this week! :-)
 
105Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Thu, Nov 17, 2005, 19:36 		Just found a scheduling error. I only have a few mins and have to leave town for the weekend. Denver is playing twice. Got to figure out whom is missing and who should be playing whom...
 
106Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Thu, Nov 17, 2005, 19:40 		Found it. Denver is playing SD. Jax is playing cleveland. We left PD off the schedule and put denver down twice. Really easy to do as it scrolled one down apparently. Will be fixed in a minute.
 
107Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Thu, Nov 17, 2005, 19:45 		Fixed.

RFS, you have no TEs and will forfeit this week's game without one in your starting lineup. You don't even have one on your team.
 
108rockafellerskank
      ID: 180352016
      Thu, Nov 17, 2005, 20:27 		I know. I'm waiting to decide who to drop. I'll be legal by Sunday. Promise. Anyone who wants acrappy QB who will at least see the field for 1 completion for 28 yards, hit me up.
 
109StLCards
      ID: 4010521520
      Sat, Nov 19, 2005, 23:53 		Rams and 49er's have agreed to a trade. Rams get Mike McMahon and 49er's 5th round pick in 2006 and the 49er's get Stephen Alexander and the Rams 3rd pick in 2006.

Since Ref is gone until Sunday night I went ahead and approved the trade myself. I also inserted McMahon as the starter for the Rams.
 
110blackjackis21
      Dude
      ID: 034837521
      Sun, Nov 20, 2005, 01:23 		Thanks StL. Good luck but not too much - wish I had McNabb. :(
 
111Doug
      Leader
      ID: 02730280
      Sun, Nov 20, 2005, 12:59 		OK, I just freaked out there for a second when I misread that as "Shaun" Alexander. =-)
 
112StLCards
      ID: 4010521520
      Sun, Nov 20, 2005, 18:36 		Wow, I knew I was helping my competition, but never dreamed of 23pts by McMahon. Hopefully I'll be able to get a few more points tonight and hold on for a win!
 
113THK
      ID: 510431422
      Sun, Nov 20, 2005, 19:40 		Thank you Palmer and CJ for the huge win over the Cowboys!
 
114Toral
      ID: 541029611
      Sun, Nov 20, 2005, 19:46 		The big question for tomorrow as we go for the upset: can the Vikings poll out positive points at Green Bay?
 
115Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Sun, Nov 20, 2005, 21:12 		Man, unless The Vikings D implodes, thk's "upset" win and Toral's "upset" win was the perfect combination for thk. Huge for Toral too!

I figured I'd figure out a way to lose this week as I've never beaten the Ravens franchise. I'm still ahead, but can very easily lose it tomorrow night as of now.
 
116TB
      Sherpa
      ID: 031811922
      Sun, Nov 20, 2005, 23:47 		You are 8-2 against the Ravens all-time. Not sure what you are talking about.
 
117TB
      Sherpa
      ID: 031811922
      Sun, Nov 20, 2005, 23:49 		I have to be reading the screen wrong. The record doesn't add up to number of seasons played.
 
118Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Mon, Nov 21, 2005, 09:40 		I've played the Ravens three times in three years and lost all of them, including the first one in '02 by .06 when Manning made a drive in garbage time hit Edge for a 20 yd pass play on the last play of the game on MNF to beat me. As good as my franchise has been, just cant seem to beat yours!!! I needed Gonzo's 10 pts, but you still have two starters going tonight and I'm up by like 16 now. I started the wrong K and I should have made that trade for that D I had an offer for last week. Oh well. I figured I had a playoff spot locked up so I didn't want to give up anything for next year. But I could easily be bounced in the first round. If Tiki is hurt, that's an almost certainty.
 
119Peter N.
      ID: 431054174
      Mon, Nov 21, 2005, 10:56 		Well, the pain is eased up a little knowing that not starting the Chargers D/ST didnt cost me the game. Still a tough loss. THK needs to get some credit here. His team is battling without one of its top players. Nice job!
 
120Perm Dude
      Dude
      ID: 030792616
      Mon, Nov 21, 2005, 11:31 		Yeah, very well done.

I lost the game for myself by just not starting the right guys. I knew Northcutt was being eased out of things in Cleveland, for instance.

But I never would have predicted 11 total yards from Curtis Martin, even against SD. And Aaron Brooks with 22 against NE??
 
121skinneej
      Leader
      ID: 040625911
      Mon, Nov 21, 2005, 13:25 		Well, unless I get 70 points tonight from Driver and Williamson, my losing streak will reach 6 games. I'm not sure how a team that just missed the playoffs last year ended up with the 2nd toughest schedule, but I guess that's just the way things fall. Other than Fitzgerald, my team has been very inconsistent and even when I have a good week, I get beat by a team with an even better week. Guess, I can start looking to next year.
 
122Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Mon, Nov 21, 2005, 16:05 		The NFC is just loaded this year, skinneej.
 
123Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Mon, Nov 21, 2005, 16:15 		Time for a new thread...