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Subject: who would you start


  Posted by: wiggs - Donor [04991311] Thu, Sep 07, 2006, 13:26

Bledsoe against the Jags
or
Culpepper against the steelers

Sorry to ask this, I hate to do it, but I have been torn all week and now the game is tonight.
 
1Motley Crue
      Dude
      ID: 439372011
      Thu, Sep 07, 2006, 13:31
Bledsoe is a much safer choice. Excellent WR's, great TE to throw to, strong running game to support him, and a decent O-line.

Culpepper is the exciting, sexy pick. High upside, but also a bit risky. The Steelers will close ranks and the defense will know they need to step up and play well to support the less than spectacular Batch-led offense. What if Culpepper isn't fully healed from his injury, and no one knows that until he gets creamed early in the second quarter when we all find out the hard way? I think Culpepper will have some dynamite games this season, but my gut tells me not to risk it tonight.

Bledsoe is your guy. Let's see if Daunte is back before we start counting on him.
 
2rooter
      ID: 26833712
      Thu, Sep 07, 2006, 13:33
I would go with Culpepper because it is basically a tie and you will have more fun watching him tonight than watching Bledsoe mixed in with your other ten million fantasy players on Sunday. To me, having fun is more imporant than one tenth of a percent of a fantasy point.
 
3sarge33rd
      ID: 257222410
      Thu, Sep 07, 2006, 13:40
If you're playing to win...Bledsoe is far less likely to bomb this week than is Pepper. I also think he's far more likely to see 275 pds and a TD or 2. (Glenn has been unreal in the preseason, TO is apparently playing and Witten is outstandimg. Pepper has Chambers who is no slouch and McMichael. Another solid TE.) The difference then is the D's ea faces, and the fact that Bledsoe has 2 excellent WRs to throw to vs 1. JAX D is sound, but they're not the same as Pitts. Pitt will be leaning heavily on the D tonight, and those guys know it. In their quest to repeat, they dont want to start the year with an "L". Look for the D to step up, but I look for Mia to win the game 13-10 or something similar. Dal-Jax has a much better chance of getting into the 27-20 arena, and that means more Pa Yds and Pa TDs.
 
4Motley Crue
      Dude
      ID: 439372011
      Thu, Sep 07, 2006, 14:10
I also think he's far more likely to see 275 pds and a TD or 2.

Heh, sarge I think John Henderson and Marcus Stroud weigh a little more than 275 pounds... but I agree with what you were saying. Especially about Miami winning 13-10, or maybe 20-13.
 
5sarge33rd
      ID: 257222410
      Thu, Sep 07, 2006, 14:55
damn fine tpysit arent I?
 
6sarge33rd
      ID: 257222410
      Thu, Sep 07, 2006, 14:56
dont know what the O/U is on the Mia-Pitt game, but I'd be inclined to take the U if its anywhere close to 32.
 
7Texas Flood
      ID: 8762917
      Thu, Sep 07, 2006, 16:23
With Batch at QB the Steelers offense will be 3 & out all night long. Culpepper will have fantastic game vs a worn out Steeler D. In fact I switched my Ultimate "D" to Miami because of the "Batch" Factor.

Batch was horrible in his prime and he's way past that now. This game will be a disaster for the Steelers. Roll on Dante Roll on!
 
8barilko6
      ID: 127522920
      Thu, Sep 07, 2006, 16:28
Sarge...I've got the O/U at 34.5, and I definitely agree with the under.

Batch was 2-0 last year while filling in for Big Ben, so I wouldn't count out the steelers just yet...(of course he didn't throw a TD in either game, and had a 30 something rating in one of the, but hey, he won!)
 
9sarge33rd
      ID: 257222410
      Thu, Sep 07, 2006, 16:37
34.5?!?!?!?!?!? Thats an UNDER bet all day long.
 
10barilko6
      ID: 127522920
      Thu, Sep 07, 2006, 19:13
Sports Illustrated has a pretty neat listing of Week 1 projections for all the key players on their fantasy page.

Even if you tend to disagree with some of their projections, its still pretty neat to look over...(David Carr's numbers appear to be pretty far off of his 300 yd/3 TD day...)

Week 1 Projections
 
11GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 060151121
      Thu, Sep 07, 2006, 20:54
Porter just leveled Pepper on the sack.

Could be a long game for both teams at this rate.

Cliff
 
12sarge33rd
      ID: 76442923
      Thu, Sep 07, 2006, 22:47
sorta looking like both Ds are starting to get worn out abit.
 
13sarge33rd
      ID: 76442923
      Thu, Sep 07, 2006, 23:33
friggin bs officiating tonight. Miller went OB at the 3, Sabin threw the challenge flag, but no ref saw it, POitts kicks the pAT and then the ref sees the challenge flag laying on the ground and tells Sabin...gee, we're sorry but its too late now to recognize the fact that you threw the challenge flag out in time.


 
14Motley Crue
      ID: 2192327
      Thu, Sep 07, 2006, 23:49
That was going to lead to a TD on one of the next 3 plays regardless. Miami's D was done at that point--couldn't stop the run anymore.

I thought the refs were mostly good tonight. I thought Miami looked pretty good on defense but without Welker they would have been complete crap on offense. They need to improve in a hurry. Culpepper played like he did last year again. Awful accuracy, and he was leading defenders to his intended targets. Piss poor quarterbacking. I hate to say that, because I had a great feeling about him going into tonight. Maybe Pittsburgh is just great on defense. They sure looked it tonight.
 
15sarge33rd
      ID: 76442923
      Thu, Sep 07, 2006, 23:52
Probably so MC, but then you'd have probably said the same thing earlier in the game, when Pitts was 1st and goal at the 2 or 3 yd line.
 
16Motley Crue
      ID: 2192327
      Fri, Sep 08, 2006, 00:23
Good point. That penalty by Lehay on the 3rd and 18 or whatever it was earlier in the game sure took the wind out of the Dolphins' sails. I thought Saban was going to tear his head off after that one. What a hard penalty to swallow, and then Pitt gave it right back on the other end.
 
17TB
      Sherpa
      ID: 031811922
      Fri, Sep 08, 2006, 00:25
I would start Heath Miller and Ronnie Brown and the Steelers defense for sure. ;)
 
18Texas Flood
      ID: 8762917
      Fri, Sep 08, 2006, 08:24
Like I said, start Bledsoe;).

I've always had problems picking defenses in Ultimate Football. Looks like this season will be no different.

Gotta give credit to Batch, he played his ass off last night. Charlie where the hell was that game while you were in Detroit?
 
19Motley Crue
      Dude
      ID: 439372011
      Fri, Sep 08, 2006, 08:37
That 87-yard-TD to Miller was a hell of a play. The Dolphins totally bit on the play action. I couldn't believe a TE could outrun those DB's, but when I saw the replay I realized he had a huge head start because they thought Parker had the ball.

I was not extremely pleased with that outcome last night. I still think Miami will be a very good team, but if Culpepper continues the trend, they'll have a hard time winning enough games to make the playoffs.

Gotta hand it to the Steelers: their title defense openened very strongly.
 
20Motley Crue
      Dude
      ID: 439372011
      Fri, Sep 08, 2006, 09:07
For those who watched the Pitt-Miami game, do you remember a reverse the Dolphins ran with Chambers getting the ball from Brown as he was fumbling it, and then picking up 5 yards or so?

The box score makes no mention of it, but I remember it happening because it looked like Polamalu was about to scoop up a fumble and run it back for six. I was psyched to see Chambers get the yardage, because that will put him over 60 total and that will get me another fantasy point in a league. IF the scorer's get it right.
 
21Motley Crue
      Dude
      ID: 439372011
      Fri, Sep 08, 2006, 09:13
Here it is, from the Gamebook:

1-10-MIA 38 (9:56) 23-R.Brown to MIA 33 for -5 yards (43-T.Polamalu). FUMBLES (43-T.Polamalu), recovered by MIA-84-C.Chambers at MIA 38. 84-C.Chambers to MIA 43 for 5 yards.

At 9:56 remaining in the 4th quarter, Culpepper handed to Ronnie Brown, who fumbled the handoff to Chambers on a reverse. Chambers grabbed the ball off the ground and gained 5 yards on that play. I knew I remembered seeing that.
 
22TB
      Sherpa
      ID: 031811922
      Fri, Sep 08, 2006, 09:26
It showed him with one rush/X amount of rushing yards last night. Maybe the offical scoring came out as a fumble recovery and fumble recovery return yards.
 
23sarge33rd
      ID: 257222410
      Fri, Sep 08, 2006, 09:54
Looking back at Pepper over the recent past...is it just my observation, or did he look like a MUCH better QB when Moss at the other end of his passes?

Also, he struck me as "skittish" last night. There were a few times, he threw the ball much more quickly than he had to and the result was that he was well off target with the throws.

2 guys last night impressed me...Parker and Welker. Wondering if Welker isnt going to push the envelope toward being this years "Dante Hall" of a couple years ago or Derrick Mason his first couple years as a return man for Tenn.
 
24Motley Crue
      Dude
      ID: 439372011
      Fri, Sep 08, 2006, 10:07
TB, I thought of that after my last post.

I suppose yardage gained on a fumble recovery doesn't count as "offensive rushing yardage," does it?

Crap.
 
25holt
      ID: 22726517
      Fri, Sep 08, 2006, 15:33
i made the huge mistake of drafting culpepper in the 2nd rd last year. I can't see how he will ever return to his 2004 form. not having randy moss is part of it, but to me the biggest thing is that he can't run like he used to. defenses obviously know this and they take advantage of it.
 
26holt
      ID: 22726517
      Fri, Sep 08, 2006, 15:45
here's a "who to start" for ya if you're bored:

RIFC rules, WR3:

R.Caldwell vs. BUF
I.Bruce vs. DEN
J.Jurevicius vs. NO
C.Bradford vs SEA

Caldwell is #1 in NE. talented but still unproven. Brady has gotta throw to someone, and NE generally passes a lot.

Bruce is healthy, and believe it or not he is still only 33 years old. I think he is the best talent of these 4 guys, but StL is Martzless, and Curtis is lurking around the corner.

Joe J. against the Aint's D, good TD target, but still, who the heck is charlie frye? if I bench him I feel certain he will get 60 yards and a TD.

Bradford will start, Martz offense, but vs. Seattle seems like an easy choice to leave benched.

I'm really torn on this. I've changed my lineup 3-4 times already.
 
27sarge33rd
      ID: 257222410
      Fri, Sep 08, 2006, 16:00
I think you're synopsis has it right...bench Bradford and go with the other 3.
 
28boikin
      ID: 400291013
      Fri, Sep 08, 2006, 16:07
yeah i think i would leave bradford down as well.
 
29holt
      ID: 22726517
      Fri, Sep 08, 2006, 19:02
well, I have Harrison and S.Moss for the other 2 spots. I've gotta choose between those other 4 for only one spot.
 
30TB
      Sherpa
      ID: 031811922
      Fri, Sep 08, 2006, 20:02
Holt, agree with your assessments for each. I think for week one Bruce might be the safest bet, which means Jurevicius outscores him, unless you start Jurevicius which means Bruce actually gets 5 catches 80 yards and 2 TD's. I wasn't really impressed with Caldwell in preseason and think he would have to show me something before I took a shot with him, which means he outscores all of them......
 
31holt
      ID: 22726517
      Fri, Sep 08, 2006, 20:16
lol - I think you're right TB. I wonder if I can trick the football gods by starting Joe J. and then switching to Bruce 5 minutes before game time.



 
32sarge33rd
      ID: 76442923
      Fri, Sep 08, 2006, 20:27
but if you do that, Bruce will strain a hammy 2 minutes before game time.
 
33holt
      ID: 22726517
      Fri, Sep 08, 2006, 21:00
yikes. well I think the only thing to do is offer my dog 3 cookies, each one signifying a WR, and see which one he goes for.

I could also go with a lesson I was taught in HS. when you're unsure of an answer, go with your first hunch. problem is, the only logic I see in that method is that it saves you the time of trying to determine the proper answer.
 
34sarge33rd
      ID: 76442923
      Fri, Sep 08, 2006, 23:15
Now the question is, do you take the first one your dog goes for, or the one he leaves standing?
 
35holt
      ID: 22726517
      Sat, Sep 09, 2006, 00:25
he ate all 3 of em.

i think I have to just go with Bruce. I'm a Rams fan and I think that counts as a tie-breaker?
 
36TB
      Sherpa
      ID: 031811922
      Sat, Sep 09, 2006, 01:06
That's who I would have picked too, but as long as Sarge picks someone else you should be okay. ;)
 
37smiles
      ID: 5745283
      Sat, Sep 09, 2006, 04:06
Matt Jones
Ladell Betts
Dominic Rhodes

pick 1.. non ppr league
 
38sarge33rd
      ID: 76442923
      Sat, Sep 09, 2006, 08:28
owie ;)
 
39sarge33rd
      ID: 76442923
      Sat, Sep 09, 2006, 08:29
Jones or Rhodes, flip a coin.
 
40GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 060151121
      Sat, Sep 09, 2006, 11:37
I actually like Matt Jones, but my guess is I would go with Rhodes in this slot for right now.
See what the split for RBs ends up being.

Cliff
 
41sarge33rd
      ID: 257222410
      Sat, Sep 09, 2006, 11:44
lol I do too GL. But looking at post 36, I figured I'd say one of the other two, and he'd take Jones. :)
 
42TB
      Sherpa
      ID: 031811922
      Sat, Sep 09, 2006, 20:05
LOL, Sarge. It was more of a reflection on your ability to pick people who get hurt. I was thinking Jones at first, but think a RB might be a safer choice.
 
43Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Sun, Sep 10, 2006, 12:52
Dayne is inactive today. Perhaps Lundy will get a boost.
 
44sarge33rd
      ID: 76442923
      Sun, Sep 10, 2006, 14:08
It was more of a reflection on your ability to pick people who get hurt.

We all have our talents, err...curses. :)
 
45sarge33rd
      ID: 76442923
      Sun, Sep 10, 2006, 14:24
so...who started Stallworth? 4/124 and a TD...at the half.
 
46sarge33rd
      ID: 76442923
      Sun, Sep 10, 2006, 14:51
what a SHOT T Green just took. KC has a pt too, he was into the QB slide before he got nailed.
 
47sarge33rd
      ID: 76442923
      Sun, Sep 10, 2006, 14:53
replay shows Geathers well into the contact motion when Green entered the slide. Good non-call by the refs.
 
48GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 060151121
      Sun, Sep 10, 2006, 14:58
Yep, yep of course.
Stallworth that is.

Cliff
 
49sarge33rd
      ID: 76442923
      Sun, Sep 10, 2006, 14:58
oh...and re 42-43....Green is one of my 2 starters in a league starting 2 QBs. :(
 
50GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 060151121
      Sun, Sep 10, 2006, 15:09
Anybody getting CBS Gamecenter to update?

Looks like nothing at all from the Gamecenter side of the site.

Cliff
 
51sarge33rd
      ID: 76442923
      Sun, Sep 10, 2006, 15:16
I got booted, and just managed to get back to the sportsline homepage. Can NOT get into our league site at all.
 
52Kyle
      ID: 52753312
      Sun, Sep 10, 2006, 15:20
A few things I've seen so far from watching the 2 games I'm getting.
1. KC's line needs Willie Roaf to come back from Vegas. This is bad when Trent Green looks like Micheal Vick in the pocket.
2. Larry Johnson is extremely patient waiting for the blocks to set up. I wasn't able to watch him much last year, but from what I have seen so far, if the line does open things up for him that will be a huge season.
3. Is Detroit for real? 2 blocked kicks. The defense is holding Shaun Alexander. Wow.
4. I am waiting for someone to say Madden Curse, or Super Bowl Loser curse with the Seahawks. SA looks bad, Hasselbeck can't find a rythem. Not looking good.
5. The Bengels look like thier ready to pick up right where they left off from last year. The annoucers compared them to the Colts Offense. I am not ready to go that far, but the no huddle, no hand gestures is working (in Arrowhead!). Rudy looks strong too.
6. If you are a KC fan make noice in your building, come on. The game sounds dead on TV. You are known for having the loudest stadium in the NFL and Palmer is being able to shout out orders. That shouldn't happen. Remember in 2004 when Peyton and Dungy had the stadium crew at practice blast loud music and random noice, just to get thier rythem down? Go back to that kinda noice please.
 
53GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 060151121
      Sun, Sep 10, 2006, 15:25
Did everybody see that hit on Green.
Doesn't look at all good for them.
Appearred to be out cold for a bit.

Hope he is okay.

Cliff
 
54sarge33rd
      ID: 76442923
      Sun, Sep 10, 2006, 15:27
last report they gave Cliff...Green has feeling in all extremities, but also has no memory of what happened.
 
55GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 060151121
      Sun, Sep 10, 2006, 15:35
Thanks Jim.
Just hate to see that happen to anybody.

Is Seattle really looking as bad as the stats appear to show?

Cliff
 
56sarge33rd
      ID: 76442923
      Sun, Sep 10, 2006, 15:38
Not getting that game here, so IDK about that one.

Sounds to me like Green got a concussion from that hit. Looked like it was inevitable when I watched it happen. owie.
 
57TB
      Sherpa
      ID: 031811922
      Sun, Sep 10, 2006, 15:44
Yeah, when he was hit he was just going into his slide and the back of his head hit the ground really hard. He was knocked out.
 
58sarge33rd
      ID: 76442923
      Sun, Sep 10, 2006, 15:56
Tenn with 2 4th qtr TDs and 2 2 pt conversions to tie NYJ 16-16.
 
59sarge33rd
      ID: 76442923
      Sun, Sep 10, 2006, 15:58
How about J Wilkins today? 6/7 FG attempts. 18 pt day for the K position.
 
60sarge33rd
      ID: 76442923
      Sun, Sep 10, 2006, 17:32
and the piss poor officiating continues, when on review, a catch, 2 strides and a fumble by M Jones, is ruled incomplete.
 
61Tree
      ID: 18421017
      Sun, Sep 10, 2006, 18:46
and the piss poor officiating continues, when on review, a catch, 2 strides and a fumble by M Jones, is ruled incomplete.

not for nothing Sarge, but one bad call and 1800 good calls on a given sunday isn't exactly "piss poor officiating"...
 
62sarge33rd
      ID: 76442923
      Sun, Sep 10, 2006, 19:50
Tree, when the ref gets to spend 60 seconds looking at the play under the hood, sees the rcvr catch the ball, sees the rcvr turn and take 2 strides, then sees the guy goto the ground and calls it inc vs a fumble and recovery...THAT is piss poor officiating.
 
63Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Sun, Sep 10, 2006, 22:27
Good post, Tree. Officiating is the one profession where you have to always be perfect and continue to improve! ;)

Sure officials will get it wrong and I'll be unhappy as the next guy when they are wrong. But how many times to people blame the refs when they miss a call and say it costs them the game when your own players blow assignments, drop the ball, throw incomplete passes allow receivers to catch it, etc. They are all human and mistakes happen. Both the players and officials. I saw a play in the Dallas game where the official saw the replay and said the ball hit the ground where it clearly did not. Jax then intercepted another pass later in the series to win the game. I do know that the officials know the rules better than we ever will, but still doesn't mean they won't make mistakes once in a great while. It's part of the human element. Can you imagine if it was officiated by machines?
 
64barilko6
      ID: 13821022
      Sun, Sep 10, 2006, 23:04
re 60 and 62

Now Sarge, would your opinion change if it was my Ernest Wilford instead of your Matt Jones involved in the play? hehe
 
65holt
      ID: 22726517
      Mon, Sep 11, 2006, 00:26
speaking of officiating, what's up with that offensive interference call against the Giants? that call put them in a huge hole and pretty much ended the game.
 
66sarge33rd
      ID: 76442923
      Mon, Sep 11, 2006, 00:32
No barilko, but its a fair question. lol

Facts though are facts...

Jones caught the ball, landewd with both feet on the ground and turned upfield.

Took 2 full strides and wass then drug to the ground.

On the way down, the ball gets stripped and Jones recovers.

THAT, is a catch, fumble and recovery. NOT and incomplete pass. How the ref could get it wrong in the first place, is understandable. (They called it correctly though, as a completion.) That call was challenged, and it should have been upheld. Yet after reviewing it, the ref overturns the call on the field, citing the rule of maintaining control upon impact with the ground.

Wrong rule ref!!! That rule pertains when the tackle occurs immediatley upon reception and the carrier goes to the ground. Once they "complete a fottball move with both feet in bounds", ie turn upfield and run...its a catch. Period.
 
67Kyle
      ID: 52753312
      Mon, Sep 11, 2006, 01:00
Anyone watch the Tampa game? Is there a reason didn't even get a catch? Was it the Ravens D or Simms not preforming well? Or was it both, because all reports this week I was reading, none had him in the injury list for even a probable. Just curious.
 
68sarge33rd
      ID: 76442923
      Mon, Sep 11, 2006, 01:05
Is there a reason didn't even get a catch?

Ummmmm, WHO, are you asking about?
 
69holt
      ID: 22726517
      Mon, Sep 11, 2006, 01:08
i'd guess he's talking about Galloway.
 
70Kyle
      ID: 52753312
      Mon, Sep 11, 2006, 01:09
Sorry, my mind is running in 4 different directions. So if you even tried to read it, it'd still be hard!
Galloway. He was Simms favorite reciever last year. I was just wondering if he was targeted and dropped balls, was getting "Jacked up" by McCallister, or what?
 
71sarge33rd
      ID: 76442923
      Mon, Sep 11, 2006, 01:42
didnt get that game on local telly, so cant say definitively; but I can surmise from the "box scores":

17 of 29 for 133 yds and 3 Ints for Simms
and
1 of 5 for 4 yds from Gradkowski, so...

18 of 34 for 133 yds, 3 Ints and sacked 3 times.

Of the 18 completions, 15 went to either the TEs or the RBs. To me that says;

1)the D was all over the WR's,
2)the O-line wasnt buying much in the way of time,
3)the QB was either running for his life or checking down to get rid of the ball.

Take your pick, but most likely a combination of at least 2 of those 3 factors.
 
72holt
      ID: 22726517
      Mon, Sep 11, 2006, 02:05
the only news i could find said that he was "blanketed" and that he dropped 1 pass.
 
73Tree
      ID: 1411442914
      Mon, Sep 11, 2006, 09:59
i will say this.

i thought there were several questionable officiating calls in the Dallas/Jax game. the two reversed instant replays that went in favor of Dallas, the pass interference call on Whitten, and a couple others.

it was not the best officiated game, but for the most part, i stand by my belief that it takes a lot more than a handful of bad calls to qualify as piss-poor.

a good example would be GW Bush. he makes more bad calls than good calls, so he would be the living embodiment of "piss poor".

it would take that level of incompetence for officiating to qualify as piss-poor, imho.
 
74sarge33rd
      ID: 76442923
      Mon, Sep 11, 2006, 10:22
let go of shrub Tree...this is nt the poli forum.

piss poor, is blatant incompetance, and that was aptly displayed this past weekend.
 
75boikin
      ID: 400291013
      Mon, Sep 11, 2006, 13:51
tree are you secretly in love GW Bush? You seem to bring him up in every thread, you seem to be like the homophope who is secretly gay.

Is this how breakfast goes:

wife: tree would you like some eggs?
tree: Yes, i want to show bush what i think of killing embryos.
wife: how about some OJ with your eggs.
tree: as long as it is not from florida Bush's brother is governor their.

 
76Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Mon, Sep 11, 2006, 14:05
Re: 66 Sarge, I don't even know what play you're talking about. I was talking about the Dallas/Jax game.

I was able to watch several games and a lot of Offensive Pass Interferences were called. Any time the receiver nudges to get an advantage, they are calling that this year more than ever obviously. I saw one game where the same guy was called for the same thing in back to back plays for OPI.
 
77sarge33rd
      ID: 76442923
      Mon, Sep 11, 2006, 14:09
Well ref...since post 66 starts out by addressing barilko...I'd be willing to wager that it is in response to his question to me, contained in post 64. You think maybe?
 
78barilko6
      ID: 13821022
      Mon, Sep 11, 2006, 14:13
Two sad things that occurred this weekend:

First: Due to a family gathering, I missed out on watching any football.

Second: David Carr was my fantasy MVP and highest point earner.
 
79Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Mon, Sep 11, 2006, 14:33
Re: 77
Wrong rule ref!!! That rule pertains when the tackle occurs immediatley upon reception and the carrier goes to the ground. Once they "complete a fottball move with both feet in bounds", ie turn upfield and run...its a catch. Period.

Perhaps you were referring to the NFL ref lol!

Not sure why you feel the need for sarcasm, but it's all good.
 
80holt
      ID: 22726517
      Mon, Sep 11, 2006, 14:53
52 weekends in a year and they plan a gathering on the opening weekend of the NFL season? what kind of family is that???
 
81sarge33rd
      ID: 76442923
      Mon, Sep 11, 2006, 15:00
my bad ref. I was indeed referring to the NFL refs.
 
82Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Mon, Sep 11, 2006, 16:32
It's all good.
 
83Uptown Bombers
      ID: 35616416
      Mon, Sep 11, 2006, 16:52
Some opinions would be appreciated.

Standard Yahoo league. I have Portis and Duckett (sadly not Betts). Who would you start tonight needing 3 points, bearing in mind my opponent also has the Minnesota defense going?

Neither is obviously a safe play. While I can't expect Duckett to get me lots of yards, he might get in the endzone. Portis might be healthy enough to break a few runs and score a touchdown. Then again he might warm up and not be able to play. I am leaning towards Portis, only because I'm assuming just a touchdown won't be enough.


Thanks for any feedback.
 
84boikin
      ID: 258571114
      Mon, Sep 11, 2006, 16:59
it is clearly portis it does not even look like they are going to play tj to much if at all either way you have big up hill battle.
 
85Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Mon, Sep 11, 2006, 17:00
TJ is playing. Not sure if or how much Portis would play. I htink you're in trouble. Hope for a high scoring game to hurt the VIkings D, but I'd go with the sure thing in TJ--not knowing the status of Portis.
 
86boikin
      ID: 258571114
      Mon, Sep 11, 2006, 17:02
espn is reporting portis will play and no mention of tj. portis also practiced on saturday and sunday.
 
87GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 060151121
      Mon, Sep 11, 2006, 17:08
UB,
What an ugly situation.
Here is what I see and think.

From Rotowire on 9/11:

"Portis (shoulder) will play in Monday's night's game against the Vikings, though his exact role has yet to be determined, ESPN's Ed Werder reports. Either way, it is expected that Ladell Betts will get the start at running back for the Redskins. It looks like those who took the leap of faith on Portis' availability this week will get something out of him, but how much that might be figures to depend on how he feels just before the game as well as the flow of the contest"

No comments on Duckett.

If'n it were me, I'd go with Portis.

Cliff
 
88Uptown Bombers
      ID: 35616416
      Mon, Sep 11, 2006, 17:19
Thanks fellas for the quick responses.

As all of you note, I'm in a bad spot this week either way. I'll indeed be rooting hard for the Redskins offense tonight, and thats coming from a lifelong Giant fan.



 
89Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Mon, Sep 11, 2006, 18:28
With that in mind, I'd start Portis too.
 
90Uptown Bombers
      ID: 35616416
      Mon, Sep 11, 2006, 20:42
Well I choose Portis, so it looks like I've given myself a fighting chance at least. Depends on what the Minnesota defense will do in the 2nd half.
 
91sarge33rd
      ID: 76442923
      Mon, Sep 11, 2006, 21:03
Williamson needs to work on his hands this week. 2 drops where Johnson puts the ball in precisely the right spot, and the young WR is trying to "trap" the ball between his arms and his body.
 
92C1-NRB
      ID: 17348117
      Mon, Sep 11, 2006, 22:09
He needs "The Receiver's Training Pole" from American Inventor Erik Thompson.
 
93sarge33rd
      ID: 76442923
      Mon, Sep 11, 2006, 22:20
MINNESOTA WINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
94Motley Crue
      ID: 2192327
      Mon, Sep 11, 2006, 22:24
I didn't watch this game, but I was following it online. For such a "high powered" defense, Washington sure sucks. I think Minnesota converted more than half of their 3rd downs, and the Redskins had way too many unneccesary roughness and face masking type penalties. They are fairly worthless.

Good thing I started them and their 1 sack in a league. Pff.
 
95Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, Sep 12, 2006, 00:53
OMG Oakland is bad.
 
96holt
      ID: 22726517
      Tue, Sep 12, 2006, 02:08
OAKLAND

looks like i just lost a game to Toral in RIFC AAA
145.24 to 148.92. had a pretty good lead til Toral's SD defense took the field. I can't believe it. 9 sacks?! Art Shell looked like Dusty Baker standing there. I was waiting for him to stick a toothpick in his mouth. just unbelievable. and to think I was proud of the Bears putting up 21 points. looks like the chargers score 32!
 
97holt
      ID: 22726517
      Tue, Sep 12, 2006, 06:33
after aol's stat adjustments this morning the bears D somehow picks up 2 pts and the chargers D loses 2 pts, giving me the win by a score of 147.24 - 147.04. crazy close. 1 less yard from one of my guys and one more yard from one of toral's and we tie.

 
98sarge33rd
      ID: 257222410
      Tue, Sep 12, 2006, 10:13
I just love those sites that let us use decimals/fractions in the scoring. Can make for some incredibly tight contests. (Though it would suck royally, to lose by 1/2 point. Which btw, happened to me last year.)
 
99Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, Sep 12, 2006, 12:07
Yeah try these five close games we've had in Gurupie 24:

Smallest Margin of Victory:
1. .02 PG's Chiefs over Coyotes' Broncos (03 Wk 8)
2 . 06 thk's Vikings over Promize's Seahawks (05 Wk 3)
2. .06 Promize's Seahawks over StL Cards' 49ers (04 Wk 1)
4. .08 AP10's Ravens over Ref's Colts (02 Wk 7)
5. .12 PD's Browns over Coyotes' Broncos (04 Wk 6)
 
100sarge33rd
      ID: 257222410
      Wed, Sep 13, 2006, 10:06
In our auction league, we had a squeaker this past week.

Vicarious D vs Wiggs, 95.76 to 95.18. A meager 6 yards of Ru/Re was the diff.(Pa yds =.04pts/yd. Ru/Re = .1pt/yd)
 
101Khahan
      ID: 1811117
      Fri, Sep 15, 2006, 21:14
I guess we're into the 'who start week 2' portion of the thread.

I'm looking at a choice between:
Michael Vick vs Tam
Kurt Warner @ Seattle

Tampa was pretty average last week. 13th against the pass, 17 vs the rush. Gave up a short passing TD and a short rushing TD.

Seattle gave up no TD's.

I think Vick has the better match up, but Warner seems to have the better weapons.
 
102sarge33rd
      ID: 76442923
      Fri, Sep 15, 2006, 21:31
I cant see sitting any QB who has 2 WRs named Fitzgerald and Boldin.
 
103smiles
      ID: 5745283
      Fri, Sep 15, 2006, 22:46
St. Louis Rams DEF/ST vs @SFO

or

Cincinnati Bengals DEF/ST vs CLE
 
104GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 060151121
      Fri, Sep 15, 2006, 23:16
Cincinnati, but I'm kind of partial since I drafted them on most of my teams.

Cliff
 
105sarge33rd
      ID: 76442923
      Fri, Sep 15, 2006, 23:38
Cincy vs Cle, and I'm not biased. I have K Winslow starting in one league.
 
106Kyle
      ID: 52753312
      Sat, Sep 16, 2006, 03:53
RE 102- Sarge would you change your name if his name was Leinart or even (shiver) McCown?
 
107sarge33rd
      ID: 76442923
      Sat, Sep 16, 2006, 08:17
Well, McCown......could be. lol
 
108TB
      Sherpa
      ID: 031811922
      Sun, Sep 17, 2006, 10:54
Re 101 Michael Vick vs Tam or Kurt Warner @ Seattle

I think I go with Warner. Looking at last year vs Tampa, Vick tossed 2 TD's both times he played them and had his only 300 yard passing game. Going back to 05, Tampa owned him. If week one is any indicator, Vick should do okay, but I am with Sarge and like the weapons at Warner's disposal.


Re 103 St. Louis Rams DEF/ST vs @SFO or Cincinnati Bengals DEF/ST vs CLE

I like the opportunistic Bengals defense. Both could be good plays, but if I have the Cincy defense I am starting them this week over every defense not named Baltimore or Chicago. I might have to flip a coin if I had Pitt, SD, or the Colts defense.
 
109TB
      Sherpa
      ID: 031811922
      Sun, Sep 17, 2006, 11:16
All standard scoring, no PPR.

1) Must start 2 of these 3 WR:
Laveranues Coles, Plaxico Burress, or Chris Chambers. - I am starting Coles and Burress. I want to start Chambers, but I also want to win this game this week. I think Coles and Burress are safe plays that will have good weeks. I think Chambers could have a great week or a turd. Tell me I am wrong.

2) Must start a flex:
Santana Moss, Laurence Maroney, Todd Heap, or Lamont Jordan. If this was week one, I would plug in Jordan and not think twice. The Raiders offensive has me worried. I plugged Maroney in there thinking maybe 80 yards and a TD at best, but then thought worse case maybe 40 yards and no TDs. I switched it to Moss and still don't feel good about it. I think no matter who I start here, I am going to pick wrong.

3) I am starting Isaac Bruce over Randy Moss in one league. Do I need to start taking my medications again? I am starting Fred Taylor over Deuce McAllister in the same league. It just seems wierd seeing Deuce and Moss on my bench.

4) I just noticed that I am starting Laveranues Coles, Santana Moss, and Warrick Dunn over Randy Moss in another league (2 WR and a flex). I think I will change starting Moss's in that league so that I don't totally blow it in every league this week. My starting QB is Chris Simms in that league and my back-up is Rex Grossman, so I probably need to start consuming alcohol very early today.
 
110smiles
      ID: 45853178
      Wed, Sep 20, 2006, 13:58
week3

Kevan Barlow vs BUF
or
Dominic Rhodes vs JAC
or
Matt Jones vs IND

pick 1

Thanks!
 
111sarge33rd
      ID: 257222410
      Wed, Sep 20, 2006, 14:15
Jones
 
112sarge33rd
      ID: 257222410
      Wed, Sep 20, 2006, 14:21
R Brown, a much stronger RB than Barlow, against the Buff D managed 70 yds on the ground and 52 in the air. That on 21 touches. (15 carries and 6 catches.) No TDs. In wk1, Dillon had 16 carries for 73 yds and no TD vs Buff. Again, Dillon is a better RB than Barlow. IMHO, that puts Barlow out of the equation.

D Rhodes vs JAX?! Are you kidding me? In 2 games, JAX has only yielded 114 total RuYds and 17 total points. No way. He's out.

That only leaves one option...M Jones.
 
113smiles
      ID: 45853178
      Wed, Sep 20, 2006, 14:35
thx
 
114Texas Flood
      ID: 8762917
      Wed, Sep 20, 2006, 14:53
+ the fact that Addai is about to take that job away from Rhodes.

Matt Jones
 
115sarge33rd
      ID: 257222410
      Wed, Sep 20, 2006, 15:26
here's my dilemma...

Westbrook. Will he play, or will Buckhalter get the call? I have both, but I also have Addai. Going against JAX however, I'm gonna roll the dice with either Westie or Bucky. It'll be one of those "game time" decisions. lol
 
116Texas Flood
      ID: 8762917
      Wed, Sep 20, 2006, 16:16
Sarge, I haven't seen anything definate about Westbrook, but I could find nothing that said he would'nt play. I would be willing to bet that he'll play, and put up numbers similar to the past two weeks. As you know Westy is an injury waiting to happen and Bucky is good insurance.

You have a nice back in Addai, and had he not fumbled in the endzone last week that starting job would be his. Rhodes has already showed eh can't handle the job and Addai will see a lot of action sooner rather than later.
 
117sarge33rd
      ID: 257222410
      Wed, Sep 20, 2006, 16:22
I havent seen anything definitive either, and doubt that I will until 118 seconds before KO. lol

Gonna be logged on, 4 different windows open, the TV going and ready to change my lineup on Sunday. :)
 
118smiles
      ID: 198272117
      Thu, Sep 21, 2006, 18:28
matt jones might be out.

If jones is out, then I would start Barlow over Rhodes?
 
119sarge33rd
      ID: 257222410
      Thu, Sep 21, 2006, 19:33
gawd...if Jones is out? coin toss....literally.
 
120TB
      Sherpa
      ID: 031811922
      Thu, Sep 21, 2006, 20:02
We really should make this a weekly thread.

I start Kevan Barlow over Jones even if Jones is healthy. I will take a starting RB every day over a WR who isn't on a stellar passing offense and one who has three receivers who seem to get about the same amount of looks every game.
 
121smiles
      ID: 498342315
      Sat, Sep 23, 2006, 16:37
makes sense, I'll start barlow. Plus it's not a PPR league