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- Donor [539581218] Tue, Dec 05, 2006, 11:05
Let's start a new thread as we start the playoffs.
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Dec 05, 2006, 11:19
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Found three adjustments. So assuming there are no more adjustments that would alter these, here are the teams and seeds to play for the championship...
Congratulations to the overall #1 seed and this season's best record: Coyotes' Broncos!
AFC
#1 Coyotes' Broncos 10-3 1058.8 vs. #4 Bmd's Texans 9-4 922.4
#2 TB's Ravens 9-4 1033.5 vs. #3 mbj's Bengals 9-4 968.7
NFC
#1 CCR's Bears 10-3 920.7 vs. #4 thk's Vikings 8-5 1080
#2 bj21's Rams 9-4 1060.8 vs. #3 StL Cards' 49ers 9-4 986.7
We will have complete 1-24 rankings and the matchups for our Wanna Be and Toilet Bowls shortly. Everyone plays next week regardless. The championship teams will play it out. I've always felt that everyone should play it out but there hasn't been a lot of support in past years for that from the consolation teams. I'd be happy to continue everyone playing every week if you want or continue with the way we've done it in the past. For the non-championship teams, the playoffs have no bearing on your draft order, but all records count on the overall franchise records and streaks, etc.
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Dec 05, 2006, 12:09
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G24 End-of-Regular Season Rankings
1. Coyotes' Broncos 10-3 1058.8
2. CCR's Bears 10-3 920.7
3. bj21's Rams 9-4 1060.8
4. TB's Ravens 9-4 1033.5
5. StL Cards' 49ers 9-4 986.7
6. mbj's Bengals 9-4 968.7
7. Bmd's Texans 9-4 922.4
8. thk's Vikings 8-5 1080
(Top 8 order will ultimately be determined by the playoff outcome. The draft order will be the reverse of that.)
9. Ref's Colts 8-5 933.8
10. AF's Falcons 7-6 1054.5
11. GO's Jets 7-6 822.8
12. Doug's Raiders 6-7 975.5
13. CT's Cardinals 6-7 927.9
14. sw's Chiefs 6-7 912.8
15. ds' Eagles 6-7 872.2
16. Dan's Bills 6-7 862.2
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17. Toral's Saints 6-7 853.3
18. GL's Chargers 5-8 743
19. SJ's Packers 5-8 718.8
20. Yokel's Jaguars 4-9 852.2
21. Twarpy's Giants 4-9 736.9
22. Peter's Cowboys 3-10 789.8
23. Promize's Seahawks 2-11 753.7
24. PD's Browns 2-11 570.7
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Dec 05, 2006, 12:12
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Another thought is to have just one huge consolation bracket with 16 teams rather than two bracket's of 8. I'm not going to change anything unless there is support for something different.
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Dec 05, 2006, 12:30
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I remember now the reason we went to 3 tourney's instead of a 16 team consolation tourney--so it wouldn't carry over into week 17 to crown the champion.
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Dec 05, 2006, 13:16
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Wanna-Be Bowl
8. Buffalo Bills at 1. Indianapolis Colts
7. Philadelphia Eagles at 2. Atlanta Falcons
6. Kansas City Chiefs at 3. New York Jets
5. Arizona Cardinals at 4. Oakland Raiders
Toilet Bowl
8. Cleveland Browns at 1. New Orleans Saints
7. Seattle Seahawks at 2. San Diego Chargers
6. Dallas Cowboys at 3. Green Bay Packers
5. New York Giants at 4. Jacksonville Jaguars
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Dec 05, 2006, 14:29
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Updated Franchise Records are on our G20/24 web site. Address is in our previous threads and at the bottom of our rules.
Updated Records:
Current Streaks over 5: TB's Ravens W6, Promize's Seahawks L8, Pete's Cowboys L7
Most Wins Overall (thru 06 wk 13)
1. 55 Ref's Colts
2. 51 StL Cards' 49ers
3. 45 Peter's Cowboys
4. 44 bj21's Rams
5. 43 CCR's Bears
Most Losses Overall (thru 06 wk 13)
1. 49 PD's Browns
2. 45 GL's Chargers
3. 44 SJ's Packers
4. 43 Yokel's Jaguars
5. 42 Toral's Saints
5. 42 sw's Chiefs
5. 42 Dan's Bills
Most times Highest Points For the Week -- Overall:
1. 12 Ref's Colts
2. 9 StL Cards' 49ers
3. 7 TB's Ravens
4. 6 Peter N's Cowboys
5. 5 Twarpy's Giants
Most times to score 100 points/Overall:
1. 17 Ref's Colts
2. 10 StL Cards' 49ers
3. 9 BJ21's Rams
3. 9 CCR's Bears
5. 8 CT's Cardinals
5. 8 TB's Ravens
5. 8 mbj's Bengals
5. 8 thk's Vikings
5. 8 AF's Falcons
Consecutive Weeks w/Loss:
1. 10 Skinneej's Packers (03 wk 6 - 04 wk 1)
2. 9 Skinneej's Packers (05 wk 6-14)
2. 9 THK's Vikings (04 wk 3-12)
2. 9 AF's Falcons (02 wk 4-12)
5. 8 Promize's Seahawks (06 wk 5-current)
5. 8 ds' Eagles (04 wk 5-12)
5. 8 ET's Texans (03 wk 10 - 04 wk 3)
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Dec 05, 2006, 15:00
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Other Tidbits by Division:
2006
Regular Season best Record: AFC East 43-35
Reg Season worst Record: NFC North 35-43
Reg Season Most PF: NFC South 5617.3
Reg Season Most PA: NFC North 5534
Most Times to Score 100 points: NFC North 8
Most Times High points for the week: AFC East 7
Overall To Date by Division:
Best Record: NFC South 237-209
Worst Record: AFC West 199-243
Most PF: NFC South 31907.3
Most PA: NFC North 31191
Most 100: NFC North 43
Most High Score: AFC East
Most Times Best Reg Season Champ: NFC South 2
Most Championships: AFC East 3 (obviously not counting this year)
Best Winning %: NFC South .531
Highest PF Avg: NFC South 71.54
Lowest PF Avg: AFC West 64.41
Highest PA Avg.: NFC South 70.57
Lowest PA Avg.: AFC East 66.74
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Dec 05, 2006, 15:03
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Corrections/Additions:
Most High Score: AFC East 27
Highest PA Avg.: NFC North 70.57
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Dec 05, 2006, 15:05
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Corrections/Additions:
Most Times Best Reg Season Champ: NFC North 2
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| | | 11 | Doug
ID: 361412812
Thu, Dec 07, 2006, 14:03
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Dang... I knew there was a trade deadline, but didn't realize that was also a FA deadline. I would have shuffled a couple guys had I realized... :(
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| | | 12 | Great One
ID: 539581613
Thu, Dec 07, 2006, 14:21
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Yeah, I don't like that at all. What if a guy breaks a leg in the next 3 weeks and you are fighting to win it all? Seems like its uneccessary. What is the rationale for CBS (or G24?) locking FA's?
Right off the bat - if whoever had Delhomme didn't have Weinke...
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| | | 13 | THK
ID: 810422114
Fri, Dec 08, 2006, 09:46
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The Steelers and Winslow didn't get as many points as I projected so that's good. Too bad I think Gore is going to go nuts vs. GB. Good luck to all playoff teams!
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Dec 08, 2006, 10:31
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RE 11 and 12
We posted many times talking about this as well as the rationale behind this. This is a rule that was adopted before the league ever started and has never changed. We're always looking for a better way to do things and if anyone ever has an idea on how to achieve this, feel free to post it. We do have several ideas right now that we will be considering moving forward.
Except for maybe Yahoo!, I'm not sure of any league that will let you replace a QB off the WW during the playoffs. I'm sure there are leagues out there that will allow that, just none others that I've encountered.
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| | | 15 | TB
ID: 72253110
Fri, Dec 08, 2006, 11:28
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Maybe fleaflicker.com?
I started a couple survivor leagues there this year and have been happy with the site. It's free, fast, and the live scoring worked well all year. Because they were survivor leagues, we didn't use waivers or trades all year, but I remember it allowing me the option to set up when they are ran. The scoring rules are adjustable and allow for a wide variety of changes. I think it is worth checking out if we are considering moving sites. I don't have a problem staying where we are either, just tossing this out there. Who knows, maybe this was fleaflicker's first year and they switch to a pay site next year.
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Dec 08, 2006, 11:55
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I really like CBS for G24. I'll be happy to look at other sites though if they will work and save us money at the same time.
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Dec 08, 2006, 12:00
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CBS would allow players to be picked up during the playoffs, I meant that I didn't know of any private leagues that would set it up to allow playoff teams to pick up QBs during the playoffs.
Our rule has always been that in order to use a guy in the playoffs, they have had to be on your team for at least a week in the regular season (Week 13). No one has ever questioned that rule before, but if that or other rules are in question, please post that here and post your rationale why and a possible alternative and rationale behind that. Maybe others feel the same way or will once they read why your post.
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| | | 18 | Great One
ID: 539581613
Fri, Dec 08, 2006, 14:37
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Well I've only really played Yahoo, and we always allow FA pickups through the end so I guess thats why it seemed odd to me.
But if a your kicker broke a leg or something, shouldn't you be able to pick up another one? (though I guess in a league this deep there isn't much available FA's to go around anyway, but thats not the point of this). Why are the playoffs any different? Or if your QB is gonna rest up for the "real" playoffs, shouldn't you be able to pick up someone else and not be penalized for having players on good teams? I guess I don't understand the rationale for locking everything up.
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| | | 19 | StLCards
Leader
ID: 31010716
Sat, Dec 09, 2006, 11:59
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But if a your kicker broke a leg or something, shouldn't you be able to pick up another one?
In this league it comes down to choices. Do you stack your lineup with depth, ie. two kickers, two TEs, and backup flex players, hoping you make the playoffs, or do you take young players that might break out next year.
This is the 5th year that it's been that way and the thought is that you play with the team that got you there. If you could add/drop players during the playoffs, then imagine non-playoff teams dropping their older guys they don't want to keep for young players. I'm even assuming that is what some people are wishing they did. Those players that were dropped could really change the look of a playoff team, especially if you looked at one like mine. I limped into the playoffs, and it really wouldn't be fair for me to suddenly improve my two flex positions during the playoffs.
Right now there are decisions to make. If you only carry 1 QB, 1 TE, 1 K during the playoffs, then you are taking a risk at the benifit of having better options at the key RB/WR/Flex spots.
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Dec 10, 2006, 12:23
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Is it just me or does anyone else feel like there is absolutely no excitement for the playoffs this year?
My Super Bowl Prediction: TB's Ravens vs. thk's Vikings
Wanna-Be Bowl: What the hell, Ref's Colts ;)
Toilet Bowl: Toral's Saints
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| | | 21 | Peter N.
ID: 581018320
Sun, Dec 10, 2006, 13:32
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I agree ref, its dead this year.
I'm going to stick with my loyalty to the NFC South and hope that the winner of bj21 and stlcards goes all the way to the superbowl and wins it.
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Dec 10, 2006, 13:36
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Get off the fence Pete! ;)
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Dec 10, 2006, 14:39
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bmd has fred taylor and coyotes has Drew. Should be a high scoring affair between these two playoff teams!!!
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Dec 10, 2006, 15:19
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Another thing I want to address next year are the bonus yards. I think the passing bonus is fine, but the rush/rec bonus of .025 really can screw things up with the odd yards because of the thousandths place. I think perhaps .05 bonus might be better.
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| | | 25 | THK
ID: 810422114
Sun, Dec 10, 2006, 16:07
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James, Gore and Coles can easily get 30 points to beat me. I really thought I could win this week and that my team is Super Bowl quality. Unfortunately, I think Gore alone will score at least 20 and up to maybe 30 himself. Hopefully the Ds can step up for me!
THK
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Dec 10, 2006, 16:13
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That Marion Barber trade could come back to haunt you this year. I'm surprised you made that move this year instead of perhaps in the off-season.
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| | | 27 | THK
ID: 810422114
Sun, Dec 10, 2006, 16:21
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Ironically, the Texans D and Chambers helped a lot last week. This week clearly that wasn't the case.
Anyway...Gore just ripped a 72 yard run...it was fun haha
THK
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Dec 10, 2006, 16:31
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Yeah going to be tough for you to win. Scoring just 58 points in the playoffs probably isn't going to get you a win. CCR has his best three players playing now so I see him easily topping 58--but who knows what can happen.
All of the other games are close too. As of right now...
tb is up 3.74 over mbj
coyotes up .44 over bmd
49ers up 8.86 over bj21
vikings up 17.96 over ccr
I could have been a player in the playoffs as I'm up to 61.46 with some guys still to go. That's what happens when you can't get enough wins/points.
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Dec 10, 2006, 19:20
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TB's start of the wrong D could cost him the game. Needs a big game from Bruce tomorrow.
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| | | 30 | Myboyjack
Dude
ID: 014826271
Sun, Dec 10, 2006, 19:57
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Hard to second guess TB starting the Jets, given th match-ups.
If I do lose it'll be because for the second week in a row a didn't trust my gut and went with Carr over Campbell.
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| | | 31 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Sun, Dec 10, 2006, 21:51
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I think it is fairly safe to say I am done. Yes, I played match-ups with my defenses and thought I picked the right one, but the 32 point swing is a little tough to swallow. What makes it worse is that this won't be the only league where I am going to lose in the first round that I get to second guess my choices for today's games.
MBJ, you had a heck of a season and beat me twice so I am rooting for you to win it all.
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| | | 32 | blackjackis21
Dude
ID: 034837521
Sun, Dec 10, 2006, 23:05
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Ugh - not done yet, but Romo's not helping at all. I don't like my odds if I don't get to within at least 8 or so by the end of this game. I would have to assume Romo throws at least one more INT.
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Dec 10, 2006, 23:07
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I wouldn't give up so fast if I were you. I know mbj's not resting so easy. You're 18 points down. That's 120 yds and a TD or 60 yds and 2 TDs. Or just shy of 180 yds total. Perhaps not probable, but still quite possible.
Other teams don't have as good of hope. THK is done. bmd is going to need like 50 points from Jones tomorrow night. Not happening. cards and bj21 will go down to tomorrow night's game to figure it out as both have players going and its anyone's game.
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| | | 34 | Perm Dude
ID: 3811561012
Sun, Dec 10, 2006, 23:58
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Another PD upset in the making? Tune in tomorrow night...
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| | | 35 | StLCards
Leader
ID: 31010716
Mon, Dec 11, 2006, 09:09
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bj21, you should be feeling good going into tonight's game. Have you seen the Rams play lately? Wish I hadn't! Hopefully they can come up huge and actually score some TDs so that I won't have to count on Wilkins kicking 5 FGs!
The Rams main objective seems to be limiting turnovers and stopping Hester, so we'll see how that goes. At least it's at home :)
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| | | 36 | blackjackis21
Dude
ID: 034837521
Mon, Dec 11, 2006, 15:14
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Yeah, I guess upon further review it could be a tight match. Certainly makes tonight's game worth watching - good luck!
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Dec 11, 2006, 22:32
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I'm glad Berrian did something tonight. Even though it was showing me ahead by a few tenths, Jax had a blocked punt, so I was really behind.
Looks like bj21 and StL Cards will go down to the wire as expected. In the 2nd half, bj21 is unofficially .4 ahead. That Hester TD may make all the difference.
TB is still 12.4 behind. He really needs a Bruce TD to have a realistic chance.
PD needs just 7 yards from McKie tonight (has nothing through the first half) to upset #1 Toral in the Toilet Bowl. Looks like ll my picks are in danger of losing except for me at this point. SORRY GUYS!!! At least I climbed out onto the ledge and made a prediction.
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Dec 11, 2006, 22:56
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I didn't see the play, did Wilkins miss the PAT? AOL is counting it as a MXP, but CBS isn't. Cards is up by .1 right now, so that 1 point could be HUGE!
AF has come back to take a point elad over ds. DS has to hope for at least a fumble or INT from Bulger.
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| | | 39 | Perm Dude
ID: 2311481110
Mon, Dec 11, 2006, 23:01
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No kick (so no missed kick). Bad snap. CBS play-by-play:
J.Wilkins extra point is Aborted, Center-C.Massey, Holder-D.Looker. bad snap
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| | | 40 | Perm Dude
ID: 2311481110
Mon, Dec 11, 2006, 23:02
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Yeah, baby! McKie gets a 7-yard pass play. Better sit him now.
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Dec 11, 2006, 23:04
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PD, I saw that McKie jsut got a 7 yard reception. So was getting ready to congratulate you on your upset, but just sayw thta driver had -6 yard rushing. So after adjustment, you're still down by 5 yards.
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| | | 42 | Perm Dude
ID: 2311481110
Mon, Dec 11, 2006, 23:04
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Is that reflected in the CBS stats?
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| | | 43 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Dec 11, 2006, 23:08
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-.1 of the -.6 is reflected. I have to manually adjust any yards in which there is greater than a loss of .1. So, tomorrow, I will have to take add -.5 to your score. So you need McKie to make that up yet tonight. It's one of the quirks that CBS doesn't have programmed. A few other sites also don't have this programmed in. Looks like it would be very easy to do.
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| | | 44 | Perm Dude
ID: 2311481110
Mon, Dec 11, 2006, 23:09
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Are you saying that you have to manually adjust for negative yardage, and the CBS score (22.15 for Drive) doesn't yet reflect that?
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| | | 45 | Perm Dude
ID: 2311481110
Mon, Dec 11, 2006, 23:10
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Writing while you were posting. Got it.
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| | | 46 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Dec 11, 2006, 23:21
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That Bears sack should give bj21 the lead. NO take that back, it's a Personal Foul--sack negated. Wow this is close, BJ and Cards have to be going nuts. Cards is a Rams fan in rl so it must be doubly tough.
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Dec 11, 2006, 23:27
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So the Bears get a sack then let the Rams get enough yard to lose another half point. Meaning that Cards is back to .1 ahead.
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Dec 11, 2006, 23:31
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That TD, really put a hurting on Bj21. He needs another Hester sighting.
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| | | 49 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Dec 11, 2006, 23:31
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I CALLED IT!!!
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| | | 50 | blackjackis21
Dude
ID: 034837521
Mon, Dec 11, 2006, 23:32
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lol - this is kind of fun. :)
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| | | 51 | Perm Dude
ID: 2311481110
Mon, Dec 11, 2006, 23:34
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HESTER! Holy cow.
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| | | 52 | blackjackis21
Dude
ID: 034837521
Mon, Dec 11, 2006, 23:34
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Now I need some sacks or a pick...
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| | | 53 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Dec 11, 2006, 23:38
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That near INT would have put bj21 ahead.
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| | | 54 | Perm Dude
ID: 2311481110
Mon, Dec 11, 2006, 23:41
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I would vote for IDP just for the ability to put someone like Hester on the squad.
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| | | 55 | blackjackis21
Dude
ID: 034837521
Mon, Dec 11, 2006, 23:43
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Dang - that score ought to do it. Nice game Cards - good luck throughout.
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| | | 56 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Dec 11, 2006, 23:45
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Still have garbage time left. PD needs McKie and the Rams should ge the ball back. A INT retrun for a TD or sack fumble return isn't out of the qeustion.
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Dec 12, 2006, 11:08
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Adjustments complete. As mentioned previously, for the first time in 5 seasons, the adjustments changed a result as Toral ended up beating PD. All the favorites won in the consolation games. And both #3s beat the #2s in the Championship brackets.
Week 15 Matchups:
AFC Championship
#1 Coyotes' Broncos vs. #3 mbj's Bengals
NFC Championship
#1 CCR's Bears vs. #3 StL Cards' 49ers
Championship Consolation
#2 TB's Ravens vs. #4 bmd's Texans
#2 bj21's Rams vs. #4 thk's Vikings
Wanna Be Bowl
#1 Ref's Colts vs. #4 Doug's Raiders
#2 AF's Falcons vs. #3 GO's Jets
Toilet Bowl
#1 Toral's Saints vs. #4 Yokel's Jaquars
#2 GL's Chargers vs. #3 Skinneej's Packers
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Dec 12, 2006, 12:16
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Franchise Standings updated on G20/24 web site.
Updated Records:
Current Streaks 5 or more: Promize L9, Peter N L8, PD L5
Most Wins Overall (thru 06 wk 14)
1. 56 Ref's Colts
2. 52 StL Cards' 49ers
3. 45 Peter's Cowboys
4. 44 bj21's Rams
4. 44 CCR's Bears
Most Losses Overall (thru 06 wk 14)
1. 50 PD's Browns
2. 45 GL's Chargers
3. 44 SJ's Packers
4. 43 Yokel's Jaguars
4. 43 sw's Chiefs
4. 43 Dan's Bills
Least Points Scored Week:
1. 9.82 PD's Browns (05 Wk 15)
2. 15.90 Peter N's Cowboys (06 Wk 14)
3. 17.98 Dan's Bills (03 Wk 6)
4. 19.86 bmd's Texans (05 Wk 8)
5. 21.04 MBJ's Bengals (03 Wk 5)
Least Points Scored Season:
1. 633.9 PD's Browns (06)
2. 678.8 Taxman's Chiefs (02)
3. 698.7 PD's Browns (04)
4. 703.7 RFS' Steelers (05)
5. 714.1 ET's Texans (03)
Consecutive Weeks w/Loss:
1. 10 Skinneej's Packers (03 wk 6 - 04 wk 1)
2. 9 Promize's Seahawks (06 wk 5-current)
2. 9 Skinneej's Packers (05 wk 6-14)
2. 9 THK's Vikings (04 wk 3-12)
2. 9 AF's Falcons (02 wk 4-12)
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| | | 59 | StLCards
Leader
ID: 31010716
Tue, Dec 12, 2006, 12:55
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Hard to believe I actully won. Guess I'll have to polish up the mirror and get some more leaves on the fire if I'm going to keep winning, as I'm sure it will take more smoke and mirrors to advance further!
Good luck to everyone except the Bears this week ;)
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| | | 60 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Dec 12, 2006, 13:32
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So my Garcia trade helped Cards. Tiki would have helped bj21. ;)
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| | | 61 | blackjackis21
Dude
ID: 034837521
Tue, Dec 12, 2006, 14:17
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But no more than Reggie Wayne, right?
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| | | 62 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Dec 13, 2006, 15:58
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LOL! You didn't want Tiki well before Wayne ever fell in your lap? ;) And you could have had both.
It's all good.
After the season is over, I'm going to make a list of an all time H2H records which include those 4 game screw-ups by CBS in our first year. I will put that on sheet 2. Then will organize our record book by overall, season and weekly records.
If we add things like IDP or the schedule there may be some records we have to separate starting next year. Obvioulsy, scoring 100 points in a week won't be as difficult moving forward.
I found it odd that coyotes (our league's best record) hadn't hit 100 or even had high points for a week until last week. Couple that with the AFC East dominance this year and that winner this week should be highly favored to win it all in week 16. Still anything can happen in a given week.
I'll put a new poll up.
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| | | 63 | blackjackis21
Dude
ID: 034837521
Wed, Dec 13, 2006, 16:27
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True - I didn't want Tiki, but had I made the trade (or anything close to it) that we were discussing, I wouldn't have had the tools for Wayne (McNabb, specifically). They both had 11 points and this way I get Wayne for next year.
S'all good indeed.
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| | | 64 | TB
ID: 19425813
Wed, Dec 13, 2006, 16:46
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Ref, let the bitterness go already. =)
You got a great deal for Tiki and seeing how I lost my play-off game, I feel like I went to a casino and lost all my money in 5 minutes. Bringing it up after each weeks games is like a kick in the head. Obviously, unless Tiki decides to play another year, I regret making the deal. FWIW, I would have rather gotten Wayne too simply for the fact he will be around for many more years and is a top 10 WR.
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Dec 13, 2006, 17:08
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I would rather had Wayne too. I am not bitter at all. Was just surprised at how there were some that would have rather lose than take a chance on winning. If Garcia starts next year, I'll be really upset at myself for trading him too.
More importantly, for a supposed elite league, we sure don't have as much participation as other "non-elite" leagues. I continue to work hard to get people to discuss things, but there comes a point where I'm just tired.
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Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Wed, Dec 13, 2006, 18:11
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I don't know about this being an elite league, but it is a very large league and with 192 starters required every week it can make trading difficult. You'd think the opposite would be true with the limited amount of back-ups available, but some people over-value or under-value a trade for a one week kicker/defense/QB.
3rd string RB are like gold in this league. With starters and back-ups being platinum.
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| | | 67 | StLCards
Leader
ID: 31010716
Thu, Dec 14, 2006, 11:21
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3rd string RB are like gold in this league. With starters and back-ups being platinum.
I don't necessarily agree with the statement that 3rd string RBs are like gold. I looked at the depth chart and there are 10 NFL teams where our league owns at least 3 of their RBs. Some of those teams have injuries to RBs and others are rookies or young players that could have a future. Some of the others are owned because they see 3rd down duty or are goal line options.
I do agree though that 2nd and 3rd string RBs have considerable value, and to me the reason is simple. There simply is no good alternative player to own. Scour the waiver wire and there are some old broken down players or players that never were or never will amount to much. So do you pick up a 3rd or 4th WR that probably won't get more than a few looks each game, or take a chance on a number 3 RB that could suddenly find himself a starter with an offseason trade or an injury?
As far as an 'elite' league goes, I have never liked that word, although I consider most any Gurupie to be among the best fantasy players, or they probably wouldn't bother being here. I would certainly consider our league to be a group of knoweledgeable people. Sure we missed out on Romo in the draft, but lots of players that the average football fan knew nothing about pre-season were snatched up right away. Being in such a deep league requires that.
Even though it is a large league I still think we do more trading than an average league. This year we are averaging about a trade per team as I think we are just over 20 trades.
And by my calculations we have over 700 posts for this year, not counting our draft, so while there is not a lot of back and forth banter, I surely wouldn't say it is a dead league by any stretch.
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ID: 72253110
Thu, Dec 14, 2006, 12:19
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After reading your numbers, I had to go relook. There are 87 RB on current rosters. Assuming that the first 64 are 1st and 2nd string RB, that leaves 23 more 3rd/4th string RB on rosters. Maybe they are not "gold", but I agree with your comments on why they are valuable.
I looked at trades too. 19 trades were made after the season started between 14 teams. The most active traders were the Jets and Colts with both being involved in 5 trades. Next were the Packers and Ravens with 4 each and then the Broncos and Browns with 3. The Vikings, Cowboys, Chiefs, 49ers, Cardinals, and Chargers both had two trades and the Rams and Raiders round out the group of traders with one apiece.
I am in mixed leagues where some trade a lot and some...well, hope you liked your draft. But, I do agree that trade activity in this league was better than my average league this year. Several quality players were traded as well vs just kickers and defenses been traded around for bye weeks. I agree 100% that this is by no means a dead or non-participative league. It seemed pretty active to me all year.
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Dec 14, 2006, 13:00
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I think Pete and I both were more talking about participation in our thread about possible rules changes and the playoffs moreso than the individual team's themselves.
As far as trading goes, many teams are lazy. I've been there myself at times. If a trade comes to them, fine. Some will even post on the block hoping they get an offer. It's the teams that are constantly looking at scouting teams and sending emails and offers that often find suitors.
As far as trading goes, I think many understand what has to be done in a league like this. You have to give up something of value to get something of value. A few will only trade if they feel they are getting the better of the deal. A few don't care if they overpay as long as they get what they need. It's all based on individual preferences. We'd be a really broing league if we all had the exact same tendancies and player values.
Some managers just go through the motions. They will check in once a week, set their lineup and go with it. Some don't care about the rules and they will not participate in the discussion. They have the "whatever the league wants is fine with me" attitude. Some never post except for the draft and never participate in polls, etc. let alone post any ideas on what we can do to make things better.
I've tried everything I can think of to try and get people more involved. Through posting, ideas, records that probably have every franchise mentioned. Having the franchise standings for those interested in that. There are a few super active managers who basically dictate the direction of the league. Obvioulsy, we've put a lot of work and thought to make the league better for all of us. Would be nice if there were more of us involved to help shape it. Unfortunately, there are a few who probably haven't even seen the threads and all the rule ideas that have been discussed. The most important thing is that most everyone seems to be active.
Would simply like a little more interest and ideas coming from others. There used to be a lot of excitement come playoff time and that has been missing this year.
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Leader
ID: 31010716
Thu, Dec 14, 2006, 13:34
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I'm plenty excited about my win, but I can't say that I'm excited about my chances of winning it all, but that is certainly my goal! Afterall, the baseball Cardinals won the WS, so I might as well follow suit ;)
I also think the Bears are ripe to take a fall this week, and somehow the cbs Guru thinks I am the favorite by 2 pts! Still deciding who among my wannabe's is going to start at my two flex positions and getting a breakout game from at least one of those spots is going to be crucial.
I was following the Bears/Rams game closely and what a game it was too, and I don't mean from an NFL perspective either. Right off the bat the Rams score and I was all psyched up about it, and then lo-and-behold, the center botches the snap so Wilkins doesn't even get to attempt the extra-point. I was at least relieved when the announcer said that doesn't count as a missed kick. Then Hester ran back his first TD and I figured I would lose for sure unless Wilkins could get some FGs. Then the Rams pass up a FG opportunity on 4th down. ugh. Later at the end of the half they finally give Wilkins a try and he misses! I'm thinking that missed FG and non XP try is 5 missed pts for me and that would also take away pts from the Bears DST too. The game between BJ21 and me was basically tied for most of the game, and then finally a huge TD by Bulger! Yes! I've got it now, whoo-hoo! WTF? Another TD run by Hester? OMG! no way. I've lost for sure now. Not like they are going to be trying a FG either, so no points for Wilkins. Oh well, that will at least spare me the embarrasment of getting killed next week. Yeah, I was up by about a point, but no way would Bulger keep from being sacked a few times or throw an INT. Yep, sure enough, there it is a sack. Great, now an INT by Hester. Oh he dropped it. Won't matter anyway. And then, finally, getting down near the endzone. Maybe they'll score again afterall. Bulger to Holt, TD!!!
So even though I never posted during the game since I was watching it, there was still plenty of excitement about my playoff game even if you didn't see it!
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Leader
ID: 31010716
Thu, Dec 14, 2006, 14:24
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I received this message on the cbs site. Not sure if anyone else can see it or not, so I'll just post it here. My thought is to take the 50% discount towards next year, unless we are going to move to a new site, in which case we should take the rebate and apply it to the new site. The third option is to do nothing, but I know many of us, myself included, were impacted by the poor performance of the site this year. Luckily we didn't try to draft there. Let me know what you all think the best option is.
This season CBS SportsLine dedicated much of our attention to fixing quality of service issues that affected many of our 2006 Fantasy Football Commissioner leagues during peak traffic periods on NFL Sundays. With your confirmation of exceptional Football Commissioner operations during the past four Sundays, we are now confident that those issues are behind us and excited that the steps we took this year will ensure a great experience for your league in 2007. (For details on the measures we took, please visit our Report Card.)
We apologize, again, for the inconveniences and dissatisfaction that your league may have experienced from our performance, and CBS SportsLine understands that we have not met the high expectations that you demand from a premium product like ours.
Nonetheless, we hope you'll allow us the opportunity in 2007 to prove that CBS SportsLine remains the leader in Fantasy Sports. With that in mind, we are extending three options to Football Commissioner leagues who played with us in 2006:
50% DISCOUNT on this CBS SportsLine Fantasy Football league in 2007: A 50% discount will be credited to the purchaser of the rfsrfs league on or about January 31, 2007 and remain valid until next season. The discount will be 50% OFF the cost of the league after any other promotional offers or discounts.
25% REBATE for 2006: 25% of the amount paid for the rfsrfs league will be credited back to whoever made payment this season. If payment was made by credit card and your billing information is still valid in our database, the partial rebate will be credited back to the card on or about January 31, 2007. Otherwise, we will send a check postmarked on or about January 31, 2007.
TAKE NO ACTION: If your league didn't experience quality of service issues this season, perhaps you do not expect financial restitution from CBS SportsLine.
Your league may select only one of these three options. The deadline for the decision is 11:59 PM ET, December 31, 2006.
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Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Thu, Dec 14, 2006, 15:29
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50% discount for next season gets my vote. I like this site well enough and at 50% I like it a lot more...lol.
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Dec 14, 2006, 15:45
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This saves me some time as I was going to push for precisely that after the season. It's great they offered it. 50% seems to be a no-brainer.
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| | | 74 | Myboyjack
ID: 5410242711
Thu, Dec 14, 2006, 17:29
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50% discount at CBS = :)
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Leader
ID: 040625911
Thu, Dec 14, 2006, 17:46
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Love those discounts!
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Leader
ID: 31010716
Thu, Dec 14, 2006, 23:22
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Well that sure went south in a hurry! Gore has gained over 100yds rushing in the second half and I bet most of those are in the 4th quarter. Did Seattle just quit playing or what? Not to mention Battle deciding to be the main receiver today for SF too. Ugh!
Don't think we'll be seeing Seattle in the Super Bowl this year.
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ID: 5410242711
Fri, Dec 15, 2006, 15:10
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I'll certainly take the results of last night's game. 7+ for VDavis and only 9+ for Hasselbeck. Prolly evens things up a bit for me - projection-wise. If I can make things just come down to whose Defense performs better, I like my chances.
I really don't want to come into the Monday night game rooting against Rudi - I want him to get about 50 carries for 200 yards and then have Carson throw TD passes to TJ and Henry.
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Leader
ID: 31010716
Fri, Dec 15, 2006, 17:04
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I was really hoping that both Henry and White would be inactive leaving Brown as the starter, but now it is looking like Henry will play, and even if he doesn't, then it is simply Brown/White sharing duties against a stout Jax D. McGahee also seems ready to go, so I may wind up having to go with Lloyd and Demetrius Williams. Oh Boy, can't hardly wait ;) Either that, or I start both A-Train and Brown and hope that Henry and McGahee can't finish the game.
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Leader
ID: 31010716
Sat, Dec 16, 2006, 22:18
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Another TO TD is going to be nice :)
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Leader
ID: 31010716
Sun, Dec 17, 2006, 10:25
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I would have liked for a few more pts from TO but he got me what I need to keep me in it anyway.
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Leader
ID: 31010716
Sun, Dec 17, 2006, 15:33
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Doesn't much matter what my team does with every player on the Bears team having big days.
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Dec 17, 2006, 15:52
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CCR is just going nuts.
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ID: 1411121621
Sun, Dec 17, 2006, 22:54
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CCR and his Bears are destined. Not the best team in pts but put up a good record all season. Then he does this in the semis...wowza.
Good luck CCR in the Super Bowl! Represent the division!
THK
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Dude
ID: 014826271
Mon, Dec 18, 2006, 17:27
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Looks like I'll be needing 3 TDs from TJ and Chris Henry and none from Rudi in order to have a chance apulling the upset. Possible, but not likely.
There's no way I'll be cheering against Rudi tonight anyway.
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Leader
ID: 31010716
Mon, Dec 18, 2006, 17:38
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At least when you play me next week you can cheer against someone without hesitation, T.O.
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Leader
ID: 31010716
Tue, Dec 19, 2006, 11:16
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I found 1 adjustment to make this week and it did not affect the outcome.
Week 16 matchups have been set. It's interesting that this year the matchups have gone according to seed so that the final matchups are 1 vs 1, 2 vs 2, 3 vs 3, and 4 vs 4. Please check to make sure I got it right.
Finals
CCR's Bears vs CC's Broncos
Consolation Games
Cards' 49ers vs MBJ's Bengals (for 3rd and 4th)
BJ21's Rams vs TB's Ravens (for 5th and 6th)
THK's Vikings vs BMD's Texans (for 7th and 8th)
Wannabe Bowl Finals
Doug's Raiders vs GO's Jets
Toilet Bowl Finals
Toral's Saints vs GL's Chargers
Good luck to everybody!
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Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Tue, Dec 19, 2006, 11:44
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Wow, last week of our season and I am still playing.
Isn't that amazing.
Can I win the Toilet Bowl ;)
Cliff
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Sustainer
ID: 053272014
Tue, Dec 19, 2006, 12:06
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Wow, I won by .28
Thats pretty cool. I bet when I am in the playoffs and it actually matters I lose by that much lol..
This 49ers D had been a pleasant surprise in the spot starts I have given them. A good running game certainly helps a young defense.
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Dec 19, 2006, 12:40
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My main computer is down. I am on my backup computer which I haven't booted up in months and have a lot of updates to even get it going it seems. Also got to figure out links to sites and fantasy stuff which has come about since. This is a nightmare. Thanks for Cards for helping. This combined with that time of year has created even more stress to an already stressful time.
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| | | 90 | TB
ID: 19425813
Tue, Dec 19, 2006, 15:58
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I know this isn't much help right now, but something for the future. I use the google toolbar at work and home. I imported all my bookmarks onto the toolbar, so anytime I log into google I have access to them. It is also very convenient when traveling, provided you have access to a computer with the toolbar loaded.
Do you need some links emailed to you? I wouldn't mind throwing a bunch of links into an email and sending.
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Dec 19, 2006, 18:57
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Let us give a belated congrats to Skinneej for winning Pick'ems (for the 2nd time.) Officially the game ended after week 13, but starting next year, I think it would be fun to go through all 16 weeks. Not sure if we will scrap the DH idea or not, but if we should go that route, that would certainly make catching up (or falling behind) a lot easier!
For those of you who follow the record updates or the overall franchise standings, I will likley have to skip this week with my computer issues. Will catch it up after the season next week.
As for the different proposals for next year--and there are several--I'd like to assemble committees for at least a couple of the issues to hash out some of the details for a proposal. Ideally all committees would have some makeup of a team finishing in the top middle and bottom of our standings this year. Since both commishs will be on committees to at least help direct in what the site can and can't do, it would be nice to have two to four others. The committee could even decide to not propose the idea at all. The two biggest proposals which I see the possibility of committees are the IDP and scheduling ideas. The other ideas/proposals can be implemented by vote and/or institution w/o objections.
But before we get ahead of ourselves, I think that Coyotes and CCR need a huge attaboy for the job they've done this year. Getting to the championship game was not by luck. They are the top two teams in each conference on the season. They both have shown they can dominate and now they get to face off for all the marbles. Both have now won the regular season championship in our league but this is the first championship game for each of them. Here's hoping they both have huge games and may the best team win.
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Leader
ID: 040625911
Thu, Dec 21, 2006, 13:25
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Thanks. I wasn't sure when Pick'ems ended so I have been picking away just in case. Pretty much a coast-to-coast win this time, not like the first year when I made a late run. I think I was right at the top last year as well, so I must be doing something right!
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Sustainer
ID: 053272014
Thu, Dec 21, 2006, 16:30
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I've kept picking too, I didn't know the rules! lol..
FYI - I wanted to propose FA pickups throughout the playoffs.
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Dec 21, 2006, 18:10
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GO, I am going to make a huge list of things that has been discussed, but I think in order for enough people to vote for that, you'd need to understand the consequences of that change being in place and show how your proposal would take that into account and make things better. Cards listed a couple of reasons why the rule was made this way at the beginning of the league. But to be honest, I don't know of any league (that can control it) that would allow you to pick up a RB or QB for instance during the playoffs. But more importantly for a keeper league, a team going nowhere who wants to dump an old guy who cna't help them next year could be a HUGE find for a contender who needs that guy to help him for the playoffs right now.
Normally for rule change proposals people list what they want and why they want it and how it will help the league. Certainly not required, but I think that would help you in crafting your proposal to gain some support.
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ID: 201155199
Thu, Dec 21, 2006, 20:38
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And what would prevent that person from just dropping that old player the last week of the regular season for the same exact reason? It seems like kind of an arbitrary deadline to me. You play this entire season and then a guy gets hurt (Delhomme?) and you can't pick up a replacement (Tavaris Jackson, Weinke)? That doesn't seem fair to me. Especially in a league so deep its impossible to have decent backups across the board. You just have to pray for no injuries for 3 weeks, and that just makes it a war of attrition.
Anyway, I guess these will all be discussed when the proposal is formalized.
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Dec 22, 2006, 11:32
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GO, don't all the pro leagues have a deadline to add a player in order to be playoff eligible?
I have played in only one league in my life that allowed you to pick up a QB during the playoffs and that was a Yahoo League and I never played on their site ever again after that. Just looking around on the boards, I don't see a non Yahoo site that allows you to do that. In RIFC for instance, you are allowed to pickup a TE, K or IDP, but no one else.
As I said before, our league is a Keeper league. Every team was allowed to play in a consolation tourney to continue to compete w/o hurting their draft status if they weren't in the money. This allows everyone to follow the league at least one more week and play someone close to their record. It also counts toward their yearly and franchise overall record. We've tried to think of everything to inspire teams to do their best. But if they were out of it, why would they care if they dumped a Garcia or Bruce or Tiki for instance (assuming he is def. retiring?) And being a keeper league, you can't restrict a team who is out of it from picking up someone as a potential keeper.
Since I helped craft the original rules, all I can tell you is what went into our (rfs and I) thinking when we made the rules. Obviously, we've changed a few and I am always open to someone having a better way of doing things. In fact, I've voted for most if not all of the changes that were passed. Another thought is that how can you play off with a team that you didn't have during the year? In other words, you need to anticipate your team if you're trying to win right now. Do you want that young RB who might start next year or do you want to have your QB handcuff in case of an injury?
So anyhow, now that you know many of our reasons for making the rule, perhaps it will help you craft a resolution that will be better than what we have. Thanks for taking such an interest in the league and for making such an impact during your first year. You tied me with 5 trades made and certainly improved a team that was the worst in the league to not only the top half, but can win the Wanna Be Bowl this week! Good show my friend.
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Sustainer
ID: 053272014
Fri, Dec 22, 2006, 12:32
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Well I've only ever played Yahoo and never NOT been able to pick people up. So there is the cross-up.
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Sustainer
ID: 053272014
Fri, Dec 22, 2006, 12:40
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You make perfect sense saying they could drop a guy like Tiki, but honestly, if I had Tiki and.... couldn't move him for a pick, was gonna lose him, and wasn't in the playoffs - I would have dropped him for someone who had a hope of making an impact next year. And I would have done that before the deadline.
So thats why I think the deadline is arbitrary. But maybe not everyone thinks like that. I'll try and craft something formal when we are actually putting it up for vote.
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SuperDude
ID: 229272412
Sun, Dec 24, 2006, 14:03
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nice run by UCLA Drew.
The Bears can say good bye to any trophy.....start planning your
annual hibernation.
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Leader
ID: 31010716
Sun, Dec 24, 2006, 22:43
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It's going to come down to the Christmas Day games to decide the new Champion. Coldwater Coyotes is holding a slim 4 point lead with Witten to play, while CCRider got a big game from Gore to answer Jones-Drew. Should be a lot of interest in both games tomorrow.
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Leader
ID: 31010716
Sun, Dec 24, 2006, 22:44
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Forgot to mention that CCR also has Coles in the late game tomorrow, so it is Witten +4 vs Coles. Good luck to both!
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Leader
ID: 31010716
Tue, Dec 26, 2006, 00:04
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Congratulations to the new G24 Champion Coldwater Coyotes as he wins both the regular season and the Playoffs. Great job!
It was anybody's game right until the end as one TD catch by Coles could have changed the outcome.
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Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Tue, Dec 26, 2006, 09:06
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Congrats Coyotes. It has to be rewarding to win such a large league and your team played well from start to finish.
It was a fun season for me because my team actually competed. That is always nice. Now I have years to think about my decision to start Miami over the Jets in the first round. Doh!
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Dec 26, 2006, 11:01
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Well played Coyotes. Doesn't matter how much you score as long as you beat your opponent. Seems like Doug's team is the only one that soared this week. What a disappointing week for fantasy teams this week everywhere it seems. I thought Coles would be a decent play Monday so I thought CCR could easily win, but Coles turned out to disappoint.
The AFC wins for the 4th time in 5 years. Only fitting that the two best teams on the year duke it out and the regular season best team wins it all as well. Say what you will about H2H and luck but it's hard to argue with that. This is the 3rd time that's happened ('03 Colts, '05 49ers).
I'm working on the franchise standings now.
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Leader
ID: 31010716
Tue, Dec 26, 2006, 11:47
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I found two adjustments to make neither affecting the outcome. One of the adjustments was my team losing 0.2 pts making it even closer as I held on to win 3rd place over MBJ by a score of 80.22 to 80.1.
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Dec 26, 2006, 11:57
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Current Streaks (5 or more): bmd's Texans L5, PD's Browns L5, Promize's Seahawks L9, Toral's Saints W5, Peter N's Cowboys L8.
Updated Records:
Best Record Year
1. 14-2 StL Cards' 49ers (05)
1. 14-2 Ref's Colts (03)
3. 13-3 Coyotes Broncos (06)
3. 13-3 rfs' Steelers (04)
5. 12-4 CCR's Bears (06)
5. 12-4 Ref's Colts (05)
5. 12-4 Ref's Colts (02)
5. 12-4 Promize's Seahawks (02)
Most Wins Overall
1. 56 Ref's Colts
2. 53 StL Cards' 49ers
3. 45 Peter's Cowboys
3. 45 bj21's Rams
3. 45 CCR's Bears
3. 45 Coyotes' Broncos
Most Losses Overall
1. 50 PD's Browns
2. 46 GL's Chargers
3. 45 SJ's Packers
4. 44 Yokel's Jaguars
5. 43 sw's Chiefs
5. 43 Dan's Bills
Most points Scored Week:
1. 149.80 Ref's Colts (04 Wk 8)
2. 140.82 AF's Falcons (06 Wk 4)
3. 140.77 Baldwin's Rams (03 Wk 14)
4. 140.31 Coyotes' Broncos (04 Wk 13)
5. 139.46 CCR's Bears (06 Wk 15)
Most times Highest Points For the Week -- Overall:
1. 12 Ref's Colts
2. 9 StL Cards' 49ers
3. 7 TB's Ravens
4. 6 Peter N's Cowboys
5. 5 CCR's Bears
5. 5 Twarpy's Giants
Most times to score 100 points/Season:
1. 7 Ref's Colts (02)
2. 6 StL Cards' 49ers (05)
3. 4 CCR's Bears (06)
3. 4 thk's Vikings (06)
5. 3 Tied by many
Most times to score 100 points/Overall:
1. 17 Ref's Colts
2. 10 StL Cards' 49ers
2. 10 CCR's Bears
4. 9 BJ21's Rams
5. 8 tied by many
Pick'em Champion:
04 StL Cards and Skinneej (tie)
05 Promize
06 Skinneej
I am going to organize these records and may add a few and add them to separate sheets on our web site in the near future. The SS is found in a link on our G20/24 web site. The records are on our constitution and will remain there but will be edited by week/season/overall. I will also add a page that has the overlal franchise records vs. all other opponents. If we change our rules substantially (i.e. adding IDPs that will make a big impact on our scoring) then we will have some records for our first five years stand and start some new records beginning next year. Feel free to post or drop me an email/AIM with any observations, comments or suggestions.
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Dec 26, 2006, 12:02
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I didn't know that Cards had already found the adjustments and I thought my adjustment was going to cost Cards the win until I saw the .2 in there already!
League Champion: Coyotes' Broncos
2. CCR's Bears
3. StL Cards' 49ers
4. mbj's Bengals
5. TB's Ravens
6. bj21's Rams
7. thk's Vikings
8. bmd's Texans
Wanna Be Bowl Champion: Doug's Raiders
Toilet Bowl Champion: Toral's Saints
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Dec 26, 2006, 12:23
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2006 Playoff Results (used to determine top 8 draft order)
1. Coyotes' Broncos
2. CCR's Bears
3. StL Cards' 49ers
4. mbj's Bengals
5. TB's Ravens
6. bj21's Rams
7. thk's Vikings
8. bmd's Texans
2006 End of Regular Season Rankings
1. Coyotes' Broncos 10-3 1058.8
2. CCR's Bears 10-3 920.7
3. bj21's Rams 9-4 1060.8
4. TB's Ravens 9-4 1033.5
5. StL Cards' 49ers 9-4 986.7
6. mbj's Bengals 9-4 968.7
7. Bmd's Texans 9-4 922.4
8. thk's Vikings 8-5 1080
9. Ref's Colts 8-5 933.8
10. AF's Falcons 7-6 1054.5
11. GO's Jets 7-6 822.8
12. Doug's Raiders 6-7 975.5
13. CT's Cardinals 6-7 927.9
14. sw's Chiefs 6-7 912.8
15. ds' Eagles 6-7 872.2
16. Dan's Bills 6-7 862.2
17. Toral's Saints 6-7 853.3
18. GL's Chargers 5-8 743
19. SJ's Packers 5-8 718.8
20. Yokel's Jaguars 4-9 852.2
21. Twarpy's Giants 4-9 736.9
22. Peter's Cowboys 3-10 789.8
23. Promize's Seahawks 2-11 753.7
24. PD's Browns 2-11 570.7
2007 Draft Order will be inverse of these standings (subject to Round 1 Lottery):
1. Coyotes' Broncos
2. CCR's Bears
3. StL Cards' 49ers
4. mbj's Bengals
5. TB's Ravens
6. bj21's Rams
7. thk's Vikings
8. bmd's Texans
9. Ref's Colts 8-5 933.8
10. AF's Falcons 7-6 1054.5
11. GO's Jets 7-6 822.8
12. Doug's Raiders 6-7 975.5
13. CT's Cardinals 6-7 927.9
14. sw's Chiefs 6-7 912.8
15. ds' Eagles 6-7 872.2
16. Dan's Bills 6-7 862.2
17. Toral's Saints 6-7 853.3
18. GL's Chargers 5-8 743
19. SJ's Packers 5-8 718.8
20. Yokel's Jaguars 4-9 852.2
21. Twarpy's Giants 4-9 736.9
22. Peter's Cowboys 3-10 789.8
23. Promize's Seahawks 2-11 753.7
24. PD's Browns 2-11 570.7
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Sustainer
ID: 053272014
Tue, Dec 26, 2006, 12:31
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Damn, one less win and I am picking 7 spots better lol...
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SuperDude
ID: 229272412
Tue, Dec 26, 2006, 12:45
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I have to thank the rain in NY for Coles' poor performance. I don't buy Joe Theisman's view that there is no difference between throwing a wet and a dry ball.
Thanks to REF and others for making this a great league.
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Dude
ID: 034837521
Tue, Dec 26, 2006, 13:47
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I don't buy a lot of Theisman's views. Congrats Coyotes and ditto the thanks to the commishes!
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Dec 26, 2006, 16:06
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I made my first attempt at trying to document proposals or simple ideas on our proposal page on our G20/24 site.
Not all of them may be actual proposals, but didn't want to forget any of them. If there are others, let me know.
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ID: 1792780
Thu, Dec 28, 2006, 14:49
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Re: 109... I know, 6 slots for me. It's sooo tempting to throw games at the end of the year sometimes. Of course I didn't, but still...
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Dec 28, 2006, 16:53
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I've been able to add re-arrange our records by week/season/overall. I've been able to add some records on our site and on sheet 2 of our franchise records on our G20/24 web site. Sheet 3 will be updated with all time records vs. Opponents.
Here are the new records added. Some of them are very interesting. I was surprised by a few of them actually.
Most Point Scored Overall
1. 6643.8 Ref's Colts
2. 6103.1 StL Cards' 49ers
3. 5995.1 bj21's Rams
4. 5974.4 CCR's Bears
5. 5852.9 Peter N's Cowboys
Least Points Scored Overall
1. 3954.5 PD's Browns
2. 4354.3 Dan's Bills
3. 4460.2 Yokel's Jaguars
4. 4529.5 Toral's Saints
5. 4571.1 Skinneej's Packers
Most Games Played
1. 80 bj21's Rams
1. 80 CCR's Bears
3. 79 Ref's Colts
3. 79 Doug's Raiders
3. 79 StL Cards' 49ers
Least Games Played
1. 70 Dan's Bills
2. 72 Toral's Saints
3. 73 DS' Eagles
3. 73 Skinneej's Packers
3. 73 CT's Cardinals
3. 73 Yokels's Jaguars
Highest Scoring Avg. Overall
1. 84.10 Ref's Colts
2. 77.25 StL Cards' 49ers
3. 75.45 CT's Cardinals
4. 75.04 Peter N's Cowboys
5. 74.94 bj21's Rams
Lowest Scoring Avg. Overall
1. 53.44 PD's Browns
2. 60.82 GL's Chargers
3. 61.10 Yokel's Jaguars
4. 62.20 Dan's Bills
5. 62.22 smallwhirled's Chiefs
Most Points Scored Against Overall
1. 5710.3 bj21's Rams
2. 5604.2 GL's Chargers
3. 5523.3 Peter N's Cowboys
4. 5513.3 Ref's Colts
5. 5488.0 Coyotes' Broncos
Least Points Scored Against Overall
1. 4656.1 Dan's Bills
2. 4819.1 bmd's Texans
3. 4876.1 PD's Browns
4. 4882.9 Great One's Jets
5. 4969.1 Yokel's Jaguars
Highest Points Scored Against Avg.
1. 72.78 GL's Chargers
2. 72.50 CT's Cardinals
3. 72.28 Promize's Seahawks
4. 71.38 bj21's Rams
5. 70.88 thk's Vikings
Lowest Points Scored Against Avg.
1. 62.60 Great One's Jets
2. 65.12 bmd's Texans
3. 65.89 PD's Browns
4. 65.96 mbj's Bengals
5. 66.22 StL's Cards' 49ers
Highest Winning Percentage
1. .709 Ref's Colts
2. .671 StL Cards' 49ers
3. .577 Coyotes' Broncos
3. .577 Peter N's Cowboys
5. .563 CCR's Bears
5. .563 bj21's Rams
Lowest Winning Percentage
1. .324 PD's Browns
2. .384 Skinneej's Packers
3. .386 Dan's Bills
4. .397 Yokels' Jaguars
5. .403 GL's Chargers
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Dec 28, 2006, 18:43
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One quick correction (Sorry I'm doing these manually):
Highest Winning Percentage
1. .709 Ref's Colts
2. .671 StL Cards' 49ers
3. .577 Coyotes' Broncos
3. .577 Peter N's Cowboys
5. .564 GO's Jets
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Dec 29, 2006, 01:12
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| All Time Records |  | Jacksonville Jaguars | | Team | W | L | T | Pct | Team | W | L | T | Pct | | Indianapolis Colts | 56 | 23 | 0 | 0.709 | Green Bay Packers | 0 | 0 | 0 | #### | | San Francisco 49ers | 53 | 26 | 0 | 0.671 | San Francisco 49ers | 0 | 0 | 0 | #### | | Dallas Cowboys | 45 | 33 | 0 | 0.577 | Houston Texans | 2 | 3 | 0 | 0.4 | | Denver Broncos | 45 | 33 | 0 | 0.577 | Cleveland Browns | 4 | 3 | 0 | 0.571 | | New York Jets | 44 | 34 | 0 | 0.564 | Oakland Raiders | 3 | 2 | 0 | 0.6 | | St Louis Rams | 45 | 35 | 0 | 0.563 | Cincinnati Bengals | 2 | 4 | 0 | 0.333 | | Chicago Bears | 45 | 35 | 0 | 0.563 | Atlanta Falcons | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | | Cincinnati Bengals | 42 | 33 | 0 | 0.56 | Buffalo Bills | 2 | 3 | 0 | 0.4 | | New York Giants | 40 | 36 | 0 | 0.526 | Baltimore Ravens | 2 | 4 | 0 | 0.333 | | Baltimore Ravens | 40 | 37 | 0 | 0.519 | Kansas City Chiefs | 1 | 3 | 0 | 0.25 | | Atlanta Falcons | 40 | 37 | 0 | 0.519 | New York Jets | 2 | 3 | 0 | 0.4 | | Oakland Raiders | 41 | 38 | 0 | 0.519 | Denver Broncos | 3 | 3 | 0 | 0.5 | | Arizona Cardinals | 37 | 36 | 0 | 0.507 | St Louis Rams | 1 | 3 | 0 | 0.25 | | Minnesota Vikings | 38 | 38 | 0 | 0.5 | Arizona Cardinals | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | | Houston Texans | 35 | 39 | 0 | 0.473 | New Orleans Saints | 2 | 2 | 0 | 0.5 | | Seattle Seahawks | 33 | 42 | 0 | 0.44 | Dallas Cowboys | 0 | 0 | 0 | #### | | Philadelphia Eagles | 31 | 42 | 0 | 0.425 | Philadelphia Eagles | 0 | 0 | 0 | #### | | Kansas City Chiefs | 31 | 43 | 0 | 0.419 | Chicago Bears | 0 | 0 | 0 | #### | | New Orleans Saints | 30 | 42 | 0 | 0.417 | New York Giants | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0.5 | | San Diego Chargers | 31 | 46 | 0 | 0.403 | Minnesota Vikings | 0 | 0 | 0 | #### | | Jacksonville Jaguars | 29 | 44 | 0 | 0.397 | Seattle Seahawks | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | Buffalo Bills | 27 | 43 | 0 | 0.386 | San Diego Chargers | 3 | 3 | 0 | 0.5 | | Green Bay Packers | 28 | 45 | 0 | 0.384 | Indianapolis Colts | 0 | 5 | 0 | 0 | | Cleveland Browns | 24 | 50 | 0 | 0.324 |  | | Arizona Cardinals | Kansas City Chiefs | | Team | W | L | T | Pct | Team | W | L | T | Pct | | Green Bay Packers | 5 | 1 | 0 | 0.833 | Green Bay Packers | 1 | 2 | 0 | 0.333 | | San Francisco 49ers | 2 | 5 | 0 | 0.286 | San Francisco 49ers | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | | Houston Texans | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | Houston Texans | 2 | 3 | 0 | 0.4 | | Cleveland Browns | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | Cleveland Browns | 4 | 2 | 0 | 0.667 | | Oakland Raiders | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | Oakland Raiders | 2 | 4 | 0 | 0.333 | | Cincinnati Bengals | 2 | 0 | 0 | 1 | Cincinnati Bengals | 2 | 5 | 0 | 0.286 | | Atlanta Falcons | 3 | 2 | 0 | 0.6 | Atlanta Falcons | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0.5 | | Buffalo Bills | 0 | 0 | 0 | #### | Buffalo Bills | 2 | 3 | 0 | 0.4 | | Baltimore Ravens | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | Baltimore Ravens | 2 | 4 | 0 | 0.333 | | Kansas City Chiefs | 0 | 0 | 0 | #### | New York Jets | 3 | 3 | 0 | 0.5 | | New York Jets | 0 | 0 | 0 | #### | Denver Broncos | 3 | 2 | 0 | 0.6 | | Denver Broncos | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | St Louis Rams | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | St Louis Rams | 2 | 3 | 0 | 0.4 | Arizona Cardinals | 0 | 0 | 0 | #### | | New Orleans Saints | 3 | 2 | 0 | 0.6 | New Orleans Saints | 0 | 0 | 0 | #### | | Dallas Cowboys | 1 | 4 | 0 | 0.2 | Dallas Cowboys | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | | Philadelphia Eagles | 3 | 4 | 0 | 0.429 | Philadelphia Eagles | 0 | 0 | 0 | #### | | Chicago Bears | 2 | 4 | 0 | 0.333 | Chicago Bears | 0 | 0 | 0 | #### | | New York Giants | 1 | 4 | 0 | 0.2 | New York Giants | 2 | 1 | 0 | 0.667 | | Jacksonville Jaguars | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | Jacksonville Jaguars | 3 | 1 | 0 | 0.75 | | Minnesota Vikings | 2 | 3 | 0 | 0.4 | Minnesota Vikings | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | | Seattle Seahawks | 3 | 2 | 0 | 0.6 | Seattle Seahawks | 0 | 0 | 0 | #### | | San Diego Chargers | 2 | 0 | 0 | 1 | San Diego Chargers | 2 | 3 | 0 | 0.4 | | Indianapolis Colts | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0.5 | Indianapolis Colts | 1 | 6 | 0 | 0.143 | | | | | Atlanta Falcons | Minnesota Vikings | | Team | W | L | T | Pct | Team | W | L | T | Pct | | Green Bay Packers | 4 | 2 | 0 | 0.667 | Green Bay Packers | 4 | 1 | 0 | 0.8 | | San Francisco 49ers | 2 | 3 | 0 | 0.4 | San Francisco 49ers | 2 | 4 | 0 | 0.333 | | Houston Texans | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | Houston Texans | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | Cleveland Browns | 2 | 0 | 0 | 1 | Cleveland Browns | 0 | 0 | 0 | #### | | Oakland Raiders | 2 | 0 | 0 | 1 | Oakland Raiders | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | Cincinnati Bengals | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | Cincinnati Bengals | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | Buffalo Bills | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | Atlanta Falcons | 2 | 3 | 0 | 0.4 | | Baltimore Ravens | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | Buffalo Bills | 0 | 0 | 0 | #### | | Kansas City Chiefs | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0.5 | Baltimore Ravens | 3 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | New York Jets | 1 | 3 | 0 | 0.25 | Kansas City Chiefs | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | Denver Broncos | 0 | 0 | 0 | #### | New York Jets | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | | St Louis Rams | 5 | 1 | 0 | 0.833 | Denver Broncos | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | | Arizona Cardinals | 2 | 3 | 0 | 0.4 | St Louis Rams | 2 | 5 | 0 | 0.286 | | New Orleans Saints | 1 | 5 | 0 | 0.167 | Arizona Cardinals | 3 | 2 | 0 | 0.6 | | Dallas Cowboys | 1 | 5 | 0 | 0.167 | New Orleans Saints | 3 | 2 | 0 | 0.6 | | Philadelphia Eagles | 5 | 1 | 0 | 0.833 | Dallas Cowboys | 3 | 3 | 0 | 0.5 | | Chicago Bears | 2 | 4 | 0 | 0.333 | Philadelphia Eagles | 5 | 2 | 0 | 0.714 | | New York Giants | 3 | 2 | 0 | 0.6 | Chicago Bears | 2 | 4 | 0 | 0.333 | | Jacksonville Jaguars | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | New York Giants | 1 | 4 | 0 | 0.2 | | Minnesota Vikings | 3 | 2 | 0 | 0.6 | Jacksonville Jaguars | 0 | 0 | 0 | #### | | Seattle Seahawks | 2 | 3 | 0 | 0.4 | Seattle Seahawks | 3 | 2 | 0 | 0.6 | | San Diego Chargers | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | San Diego Chargers | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0.5 | | Indianapolis Colts | 0 | 0 | 0 | #### | Indianapolis Colts | 0 | 3 | 0 | 0 | | | | | Baltimore Ravens | New Orleans Saints | | Team | W | L | T | Pct | Team | W | L | T | Pct | | Green Bay Packers | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | Green Bay Packers | 2 | 3 | 0 | 0.4 | | San Francisco 49ers | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0.5 | San Francisco 49ers | 0 | 5 | 0 | 0 | | Houston Texans | 2 | 4 | 0 | 0.333 | Houston Texans | 0 | 0 | 0 | #### | | Cleveland Browns | 3 | 2 | 0 | 0.6 | Cleveland Browns | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0.5 | | Oakland Raiders | 2 | 4 | 0 | 0.333 | Oakland Raiders | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | | Cincinnati Bengals | 2 | 4 | 0 | 0.333 | Cincinnati Bengals | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | | Atlanta Falcons | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | Atlanta Falcons | 5 | 1 | 0 | 0.833 | | Buffalo Bills | 3 | 3 | 0 | 0.5 | Buffalo Bills | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | | Kansas City Chiefs | 4 | 2 | 0 | 0.667 | Baltimore Ravens | 0 | 0 | 0 | #### | | New York Jets | 2 | 3 | 0 | 0.4 | Kansas City Chiefs | 0 | 0 | 0 | #### | | Denver Broncos | 4 | 1 | 0 | 0.8 | New York Jets | 0 | 0 | 0 | #### | | St Louis Rams | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | Denver Broncos | 1 | 2 | 0 | 0.333 | | Arizona Cardinals | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | St Louis Rams | 2 | 3 | 0 | 0.4 | | New Orleans Saints | 0 | 0 | 0 | #### | Arizona Cardinals | 2 | 3 | 0 | 0.4 | | Dallas Cowboys | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | Dallas Cowboys | 3 | 2 | 0 | 0.6 | | Philadelphia Eagles | 2 | 0 | 0 | 1 | Philadelphia Eagles | 2 | 3 | 0 | 0.4 | | Chicago Bears | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | Chicago Bears | 2 | 4 | 0 | 0.333 | | New York Giants | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | New York Giants | 2 | 3 | 0 | 0.4 | | Jacksonville Jaguars | 4 | 2 | 0 | 0.667 | Jacksonville Jaguars | 2 | 2 | 0 | 0.5 | | Minnesota Vikings | 0 | 3 | 0 | 0 | Minnesota Vikings | 2 | 3 | 0 | 0.4 | | Seattle Seahawks | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | Seattle Seahawks | 3 | 2 | 0 | 0.6 | | San Diego Chargers | 5 | 0 | 0 | 1 | San Diego Chargers | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | Indianapolis Colts | 3 | 2 | 0 | 0.6 | Indianapolis Colts | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | | | | | Buffalo Bills | New York Giants | | Team | W | L | T | Pct | Team | W | L | T | Pct | | Green Bay Packers | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | Green Bay Packers | 3 | 2 | 0 | 0.6 | | San Francisco 49ers | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | San Francisco 49ers | 1 | 4 | 0 | 0.2 | | Houston Texans | 2 | 3 | 0 | 0.4 | Houston Texans | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | Cleveland Browns | 3 | 2 | 0 | 0.6 | Cleveland Browns | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | Oakland Raiders | 2 | 3 | 0 | 0.4 | Oakland Raiders | 2 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | Cincinnati Bengals | 0 | 5 | 0 | 0 | Cincinnati Bengals | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | Atlanta Falcons | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | Atlanta Falcons | 2 | 3 | 0 | 0.4 | | Baltimore Ravens | 3 | 3 | 0 | 0.5 | Buffalo Bills | 0 | 0 | 0 | #### | | Kansas City Chiefs | 3 | 2 | 0 | 0.6 | Baltimore Ravens | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | New York Jets | 3 | 2 | 0 | 0.6 | Kansas City Chiefs | 1 | 2 | 0 | 0.333 | | Denver Broncos | 3 | 2 | 0 | 0.6 | New York Jets | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | | St Louis Rams | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | Denver Broncos | 0 | 0 | 0 | #### | | Arizona Cardinals | 0 | 0 | 0 | #### | St Louis Rams | 3 | 4 | 0 | 0.429 | | New Orleans Saints | 2 | 0 | 0 | 1 | Arizona Cardinals | 4 | 1 | 0 | 0.8 | | Dallas Cowboys | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | New Orleans Saints | 3 | 2 | 0 | 0.6 | | Philadelphia Eagles | 2 | 1 | 0 | 0.667 | Dallas Cowboys | 2 | 5 | 0 | 0.286 | | Chicago Bears | 0 | 0 | 0 | #### | Philadelphia Eagles | 3 | 3 | 0 | 0.5 | | New York Giants | 0 | 0 | 0 | #### | Chicago Bears | 2 | 4 | 0 | 0.333 | | Jacksonville Jaguars | 3 | 2 | 0 | 0.6 | Jacksonville Jaguars | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0.5 | | Minnesota Vikings | 0 | 0 | 0 | #### | Minnesota Vikings | 4 | 1 | 0 | 0.8 | | Seattle Seahawks | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | Seattle Seahawks | 3 | 2 | 0 | 0.6 | | San Diego Chargers | 0 | 7 | 0 | 0 | San Diego Chargers | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | | Indianapolis Colts | 0 | 6 | 0 | 0 | Indianapolis Colts | 2 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | | | | Chicago Bears | New York Jets | | Team | W | L | T | Pct | Team | W | L | T | Pct | | Green Bay Packers | 4 | 1 | 0 | 0.8 | Green Bay Packers | 2 | 1 | 0 | 0.667 | | San Francisco 49ers | 1 | 5 | 0 | 0.167 | San Francisco 49ers | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0.5 | | Houston Texans | 0 | 0 | 0 | #### | Houston Texans | 4 | 1 | 0 | 0.8 | | Cleveland Browns | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0.5 | Cleveland Browns | 3 | 2 | 0 | 0.6 | | Oakland Raiders | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0.5 | Oakland Raiders | 4 | 3 | 0 | 0.571 | | Cincinnati Bengals | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | Cincinnati Bengals | 2 | 4 | 0 | 0.333 | | Atlanta Falcons | 4 | 2 | 0 | 0.667 | Atlanta Falcons | 3 | 1 | 0 | 0.75 | | Buffalo Bills | 0 | 0 | 0 | #### | Buffalo Bills | 2 | 3 | 0 | 0.4 | | Baltimore Ravens | 2 | 0 | 0 | 1 | Baltimore Ravens | 3 | 2 | 0 | 0.6 | | Kansas City Chiefs | 0 | 0 | 0 | #### | Kansas City Chiefs | 3 | 3 | 0 | 0.5 | | New York Jets | 0 | 0 | 0 | #### | Denver Broncos | 2 | 4 | 0 | 0.333 | | Denver Broncos | 2 | 4 | 0 | 0.333 | St Louis Rams | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | St Louis Rams | 3 | 3 | 0 | 0.5 | Arizona Cardinals | 0 | 0 | 0 | #### | | Arizona Cardinals | 4 | 2 | 0 | 0.667 | New Orleans Saints | 0 | 0 | 0 | #### | | New Orleans Saints | 4 | 2 | 0 | 0.667 | Dallas Cowboys | 2 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | Dallas Cowboys | 3 | 3 | 0 | 0.5 | Philadelphia Eagles | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | | Philadelphia Eagles | 3 | 2 | 0 | 0.6 | Chicago Bears | 0 | 0 | 0 | #### | | New York Giants | 4 | 2 | 0 | 0.667 | New York Giants | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | Jacksonville Jaguars | 0 | 0 | 0 | #### | Jacksonville Jaguars | 3 | 2 | 0 | 0.6 | | Minnesota Vikings | 4 | 2 | 0 | 0.667 | Minnesota Vikings | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | Seattle Seahawks | 3 | 2 | 0 | 0.6 | Seattle Seahawks | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | | San Diego Chargers | 2 | 0 | 0 | 1 | San Diego Chargers | 5 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | Indianapolis Colts | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | Indianapolis Colts | 2 | 5 | 0 | 0.286 | | | | | Cincinnati Bengals | Oakland Raiders | | Team | W | L | T | Pct | Team | W | L | T | Pct | | Green Bay Packers | 0 | 0 | 0 | #### | Green Bay Packers | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | San Francisco 49ers | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | San Francisco 49ers | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0.5 | | Houston Texans | 2 | 3 | 0 | 0.4 | Houston Texans | 3 | 3 | 0 | 0.5 | | Cleveland Browns | 4 | 1 | 0 | 0.8 | Cleveland Browns | 2 | 3 | 0 | 0.4 | | Oakland Raiders | 3 | 2 | 0 | 0.6 | Cincinnati Bengals | 2 | 3 | 0 | 0.4 | | Atlanta Falcons | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | Atlanta Falcons | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | | Buffalo Bills | 5 | 0 | 0 | 1 | Buffalo Bills | 3 | 2 | 0 | 0.6 | | Baltimore Ravens | 4 | 2 | 0 | 0.667 | Baltimore Ravens | 4 | 2 | 0 | 0.667 | | Kansas City Chiefs | 5 | 2 | 0 | 0.714 | Kansas City Chiefs | 4 | 2 | 0 | 0.667 | | New York Jets | 4 | 2 | 0 | 0.667 | New York Jets | 3 | 4 | 0 | 0.429 | | Denver Broncos | 1 | 4 | 0 | 0.2 | Denver Broncos | 3 | 2 | 0 | 0.6 | | St Louis Rams | 0 | 0 | 0 | #### | St Louis Rams | 2 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | Arizona Cardinals | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | Arizona Cardinals | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | New Orleans Saints | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | New Orleans Saints | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | Dallas Cowboys | 2 | 1 | 0 | 0.667 | Dallas Cowboys | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | | Philadelphia Eagles | 2 | 0 | 0 | 1 | Philadelphia Eagles | 0 | 0 | 0 | #### | | Chicago Bears | 2 | 0 | 0 | 1 | Chicago Bears | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0.5 | | New York Giants | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | New York Giants | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | | Jacksonville Jaguars | 4 | 2 | 0 | 0.667 | Jacksonville Jaguars | 2 | 3 | 0 | 0.4 | | Minnesota Vikings | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | Minnesota Vikings | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | | Seattle Seahawks | 0 | 0 | 0 | #### | Seattle Seahawks | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | San Diego Chargers | 2 | 3 | 0 | 0.4 | San Diego Chargers | 3 | 2 | 0 | 0.6 | | Indianapolis Colts | 1 | 4 | 0 | 0.2 | Indianapolis Colts | 4 | 4 | 0 | 0.5 | | | | | Cleveland Browns | Philadelphia Eagles | | Team | W | L | T | Pct | Team | W | L | T | Pct | | Green Bay Packers | 0 | 0 | 0 | #### | Green Bay Packers | 3 | 2 | 0 | 0.6 | | San Francisco 49ers | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | San Francisco 49ers | 2 | 3 | 0 | 0.4 | | Houston Texans | 1 | 4 | 0 | 0.2 | Houston Texans | 2 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | Oakland Raiders | 3 | 2 | 0 | 0.6 | Cleveland Browns | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | Cincinnati Bengals | 1 | 4 | 0 | 0.2 | Oakland Raiders | 0 | 0 | 0 | #### | | Atlanta Falcons | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | Cincinnati Bengals | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | | Buffalo Bills | 2 | 3 | 0 | 0.4 | Atlanta Falcons | 1 | 5 | 0 | 0.167 | | Baltimore Ravens | 2 | 3 | 0 | 0.4 | Buffalo Bills | 1 | 2 | 0 | 0.333 | | Kansas City Chiefs | 2 | 4 | 0 | 0.333 | Baltimore Ravens | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | | New York Jets | 2 | 3 | 0 | 0.4 | Kansas City Chiefs | 0 | 0 | 0 | #### | | Denver Broncos | 2 | 3 | 0 | 0.4 | New York Jets | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | St Louis Rams | 0 | 0 | 0 | #### | Denver Broncos | 0 | 0 | 0 | #### | | Arizona Cardinals | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | St Louis Rams | 0 | 5 | 0 | 0 | | New Orleans Saints | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0.5 | Arizona Cardinals | 4 | 3 | 0 | 0.571 | | Dallas Cowboys | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | New Orleans Saints | 3 | 2 | 0 | 0.6 | | Philadelphia Eagles | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | Dallas Cowboys | 1 | 4 | 0 | 0.2 | | Chicago Bears | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0.5 | Chicago Bears | 2 | 3 | 0 | 0.4 | | New York Giants | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | New York Giants | 3 | 3 | 0 | 0.5 | | Jacksonville Jaguars | 3 | 4 | 0 | 0.429 | Jacksonville Jaguars | 0 | 0 | 0 | #### | | Minnesota Vikings | 0 | 0 | 0 | #### | Minnesota Vikings | 2 | 5 | 0 | 0.286 | | Seattle Seahawks | 1 | 2 | 0 | 0.333 | Seattle Seahawks | 4 | 1 | 0 | 0.8 | | San Diego Chargers | 3 | 2 | 0 | 0.6 | San Diego Chargers | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | Indianapolis Colts | 0 | 5 | 0 | 0 | Indianapolis Colts | 0 | 0 | 0 | #### | | | | | Dallas Cowboys | San Diego Chargers | | Team | W | L | T | Pct | Team | W | L | T | Pct | | Green Bay Packers | 3 | 3 | 0 | 0.5 | Green Bay Packers | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | San Francisco 49ers | 2 | 4 | 0 | 0.333 | San Francisco 49ers | 0 | 0 | 0 | #### | | Houston Texans | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0.5 | Houston Texans | 0 | 5 | 0 | 0 | | Cleveland Browns | 2 | 0 | 0 | 1 | Cleveland Browns | 2 | 3 | 0 | 0.4 | | Oakland Raiders | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | Oakland Raiders | 2 | 3 | 0 | 0.4 | | Cincinnati Bengals | 1 | 2 | 0 | 0.333 | Cincinnati Bengals | 3 | 2 | 0 | 0.6 | | Atlanta Falcons | 5 | 1 | 0 | 0.833 | Atlanta Falcons | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | Buffalo Bills | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | Buffalo Bills | 7 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | Baltimore Ravens | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | Baltimore Ravens | 0 | 5 | 0 | 0 | | Kansas City Chiefs | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | Kansas City Chiefs | 3 | 2 | 0 | 0.6 | | New York Jets | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | New York Jets | 0 | 5 | 0 | 0 | | Denver Broncos | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | Denver Broncos | 2 | 5 | 0 | 0.286 | | St Louis Rams | 2 | 4 | 0 | 0.333 | St Louis Rams | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | | Arizona Cardinals | 4 | 1 | 0 | 0.8 | Arizona Cardinals | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | | New Orleans Saints | 2 | 3 | 0 | 0.4 | New Orleans Saints | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | | Philadelphia Eagles | 4 | 1 | 0 | 0.8 | Dallas Cowboys | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | Chicago Bears | 3 | 3 | 0 | 0.5 | Philadelphia Eagles | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | | New York Giants | 5 | 2 | 0 | 0.714 | Chicago Bears | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | | Jacksonville Jaguars | 0 | 0 | 0 | #### | New York Giants | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | Minnesota Vikings | 3 | 3 | 0 | 0.5 | Jacksonville Jaguars | 3 | 3 | 0 | 0.5 | | Seattle Seahawks | 4 | 1 | 0 | 0.8 | Minnesota Vikings | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0.5 | | San Diego Chargers | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | Seattle Seahawks | 3 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | Indianapolis Colts | 0 | 0 | 0 | #### | Indianapolis Colts | 1 | 4 | 0 | 0.2 | | | | | Denver Broncos | San Francisco 49ers | | Team | W | L | T | Pct | Team | W | L | T | Pct | | Green Bay Packers | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0.5 | Green Bay Packers | 2 | 4 | 0 | 0.333 | | San Francisco 49ers | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0.5 | Houston Texans | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | Houston Texans | 5 | 2 | 0 | 0.714 | Cleveland Browns | 2 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | Cleveland Browns | 3 | 2 | 0 | 0.6 | Oakland Raiders | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0.5 | | Oakland Raiders | 2 | 3 | 0 | 0.4 | Cincinnati Bengals | 2 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | Cincinnati Bengals | 4 | 1 | 0 | 0.8 | Atlanta Falcons | 3 | 2 | 0 | 0.6 | | Atlanta Falcons | 0 | 0 | 0 | #### | Buffalo Bills | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | Buffalo Bills | 2 | 3 | 0 | 0.4 | Baltimore Ravens | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0.5 | | Baltimore Ravens | 1 | 4 | 0 | 0.2 | Kansas City Chiefs | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | Kansas City Chiefs | 2 | 3 | 0 | 0.4 | New York Jets | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0.5 | | New York Jets | 4 | 2 | 0 | 0.667 | Denver Broncos | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0.5 | | St Louis Rams | 0 | 0 | 0 | #### | St Louis Rams | 5 | 2 | 0 | 0.714 | | Arizona Cardinals | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | Arizona Cardinals | 5 | 2 | 0 | 0.714 | | New Orleans Saints | 2 | 1 | 0 | 0.667 | New Orleans Saints | 5 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | Dallas Cowboys | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | Dallas Cowboys | 4 | 2 | 0 | 0.667 | | Philadelphia Eagles | 0 | 0 | 0 | #### | Philadelphia Eagles | 3 | 2 | 0 | 0.6 | | Chicago Bears | 4 | 2 | 0 | 0.667 | Chicago Bears | 5 | 1 | 0 | 0.833 | | New York Giants | 0 | 0 | 0 | #### | New York Giants | 4 | 1 | 0 | 0.8 | | Jacksonville Jaguars | 3 | 3 | 0 | 0.5 | Jacksonville Jaguars | 0 | 0 | 0 | #### | | Minnesota Vikings | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | Minnesota Vikings | 4 | 2 | 0 | 0.667 | | Seattle Seahawks | 0 | 0 | 0 | #### | Seattle Seahawks | 2 | 4 | 0 | 0.333 | | San Diego Chargers | 5 | 2 | 0 | 0.714 | San Diego Chargers | 0 | 0 | 0 | #### | | Indianapolis Colts | 4 | 2 | 0 | 0.667 | Indianapolis Colts | 0 | 0 | 0 | #### | | | | | Green Bay Packers | Seattle Seahawks | | Team | W | L | T | Pct | Team | W | L | T | Pct | | San Francisco 49ers | 4 | 2 | 0 | 0.667 | Green Bay Packers | 3 | 3 | 0 | 0.5 | | Houston Texans | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | San Francisco 49ers | 4 | 2 | 0 | 0.667 | | Cleveland Browns | 0 | 0 | 0 | #### | Houston Texans | 3 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | Oakland Raiders | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | Cleveland Browns | 2 | 1 | 0 | 0.667 | | Cincinnati Bengals | 0 | 0 | 0 | #### | Oakland Raiders | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | | Atlanta Falcons | 2 | 4 | 0 | 0.333 | Cincinnati Bengals | 0 | 0 | 0 | #### | | Buffalo Bills | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | Atlanta Falcons | 3 | 2 | 0 | 0.6 | | Baltimore Ravens | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | Buffalo Bills | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | Kansas City Chiefs | 2 | 1 | 0 | 0.667 | Baltimore Ravens | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | New York Jets | 1 | 2 | 0 | 0.333 | Kansas City Chiefs | 0 | 0 | 0 | #### | | Denver Broncos | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0.5 | New York Jets | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | St Louis Rams | 1 | 4 | 0 | 0.2 | Denver Broncos | 0 | 0 | 0 | #### | | Arizona Cardinals | 1 | 5 | 0 | 0.167 | St Louis Rams | 2 | 4 | 0 | 0.333 | | New Orleans Saints | 3 | 2 | 0 | 0.6 | Arizona Cardinals | 2 | 3 | 0 | 0.4 | | Dallas Cowboys | 3 | 3 | 0 | 0.5 | New Orleans Saints | 2 | 3 | 0 | 0.4 | | Philadelphia Eagles | 2 | 3 | 0 | 0.4 | Dallas Cowboys | 1 | 4 | 0 | 0.2 | | Chicago Bears | 1 | 4 | 0 | 0.2 | Philadelphia Eagles | 1 | 4 | 0 | 0.2 | | New York Giants | 2 | 3 | 0 | 0.4 | Chicago Bears | 2 | 3 | 0 | 0.4 | | Jacksonville Jaguars | 0 | 0 | 0 | #### | New York Giants | 2 | 3 | 0 | 0.4 | | Minnesota Vikings | 1 | 4 | 0 | 0.2 | Jacksonville Jaguars | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | | Seattle Seahawks | 3 | 3 | 0 | 0.5 | Minnesota Vikings | 2 | 3 | 0 | 0.4 | | San Diego Chargers | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | San Diego Chargers | 0 | 3 | 0 | 0 | | Indianapolis Colts | 0 | 0 | 0 | #### | Indianapolis Colts | 1 | 2 | 0 | 0.333 | | | | | Houston Texans | St Louis Rams | | Team | W | L | T | Pct | Team | W | L | T | Pct | | Green Bay Packers | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | Green Bay Packers | 4 | 1 | 0 | 0.8 | | San Francisco 49ers | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | San Francisco 49ers | 2 | 5 | 0 | 0.286 | | Cleveland Browns | 4 | 1 | 0 | 0.8 | Houston Texans | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | Oakland Raiders | 3 | 3 | 0 | 0.5 | Cleveland Browns | 0 | 0 | 0 | #### | | Cincinnati Bengals | 3 | 2 | 0 | 0.6 | Oakland Raiders | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | | Atlanta Falcons | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | Cincinnati Bengals | 0 | 0 | 0 | #### | | Buffalo Bills | 3 | 2 | 0 | 0.6 | Atlanta Falcons | 1 | 5 | 0 | 0.167 | | Baltimore Ravens | 4 | 2 | 0 | 0.667 | Buffalo Bills | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | Kansas City Chiefs | 3 | 2 | 0 | 0.6 | Baltimore Ravens | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | | New York Jets | 1 | 4 | 0 | 0.2 | Kansas City Chiefs | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | | Denver Broncos | 2 | 5 | 0 | 0.286 | New York Jets | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | | St Louis Rams | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | Denver Broncos | 0 | 0 | 0 | #### | | Arizona Cardinals | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | Arizona Cardinals | 3 | 2 | 0 | 0.6 | | New Orleans Saints | 0 | 0 | 0 | #### | New Orleans Saints | 3 | 2 | 0 | 0.6 | | Dallas Cowboys | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0.5 | Dallas Cowboys | 4 | 2 | 0 | 0.667 | | Philadelphia Eagles | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | Philadelphia Eagles | 5 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | Chicago Bears | 0 | 0 | 0 | #### | Chicago Bears | 3 | 3 | 0 | 0.5 | | New York Giants | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | New York Giants | 4 | 3 | 0 | 0.571 | | Jacksonville Jaguars | 3 | 2 | 0 | 0.6 | Jacksonville Jaguars | 3 | 1 | 0 | 0.75 | | Minnesota Vikings | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | Minnesota Vikings | 5 | 2 | 0 | 0.714 | | Seattle Seahawks | 0 | 3 | 0 | 0 | Seattle Seahawks | 4 | 2 | 0 | 0.667 | | San Diego Chargers | 5 | 0 | 0 | 1 | San Diego Chargers | 2 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | Indianapolis Colts | 3 | 3 | 0 | 0.5 | Indianapolis Colts | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | | | | | Indianapolis Colts | | | Team | W | L | T | Pct | | | Green Bay Packers | 0 | 0 | 0 | #### | | | San Francisco 49ers | 0 | 0 | 0 | #### | | | Houston Texans | 3 | 3 | 0 | 0.5 | | | Cleveland Browns | 5 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | | Oakland Raiders | 4 | 4 | 0 | 0.5 | | | Cincinnati Bengals | 4 | 1 | 0 | 0.8 | | | Atlanta Falcons | 0 | 0 | 0 | #### | | | Buffalo Bills | 6 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | | Baltimore Ravens | 2 | 3 | 0 | 0.4 | | | Kansas City Chiefs | 6 | 1 | 0 | 0.857 | | | New York Jets | 5 | 2 | 0 | 0.714 | | | Denver Broncos | 2 | 4 | 0 | 0.333 | | | St Louis Rams | 2 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | | Arizona Cardinals | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0.5 | | | New Orleans Saints | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | | Dallas Cowboys | 0 | 0 | 0 | #### | | | Philadelphia Eagles | 0 | 0 | 0 | #### | | | Chicago Bears | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | | New York Giants | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | | | Jacksonville Jaguars | 5 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | | Minnesota Vikings | 3 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | | Seattle Seahawks | 2 | 1 | 0 | 0.667 | | | San Diego Chargers | 4 | 1 | 0 | 0.8 | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Dec 29, 2006, 01:24
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Found a lot of interesting things as I was checking my work on this.
First, Coyotes has played his last game every single year against CCR! He's played him a total of six times and he's in the opposite conference. Coyotes has only played mbj 5 times (in the same conference) after playing him twice this year (played Jax twice our first year instead of mbj it turns out).
Not one franchise has played every other franchise. The range is from 1-6 teams never played.
GL's Chargers have the 5th worst overall record yet are 7-0 against Dan's Bills! No other team has better than a 6-0 record vs. any other team.
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Leader
ID: 31010716
Fri, Dec 29, 2006, 10:56
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Very cool Ref. Great job at presenting the data and very intersting too. I knew my biggest nemisis was Promize's Seahawks, but now see I need vengenance on Skineej's Packers as well.
Also see that we have not yet had the honor of facing each other. Hopefully that happens soon!
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| | | 120 | Myboyjack
Dude
ID: 014826271
Fri, Dec 29, 2006, 14:05
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cool
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Leader
ID: 31010716
Tue, Jan 02, 2007, 15:50
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I've sent messages out to all the qualified winners, but still need to hear back from Coyotes, bmd, and skineej
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Leader
ID: 040625911
Tue, Jan 02, 2007, 21:05
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I did not see an e-mail when I checked today, so perhaps my work filter got it. Send it to this address and I should get it.
PS, it's nice to know that there is at least one team I have a winning record against.
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ID: 37262119
Mon, Jan 15, 2007, 12:44
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Great job on this. Very interesting stuff and much appreciate the time and effort. I'm considering changing my team name to something that rhymes with mediocre, so open to all suggestions!
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Donor
ID: 539581218
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| G24 Franchise Standings | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | 2002 | | | | | 2003 | | | | | 2004 | | | | | 2005 | | | | | 2006 | | | | | Totals | | | | | | | | | | | AFC East Division | W | L | PF | PA | 100 | HP | W | L | PF | PA | 100 | HP | W | L | PF | PA | 100 | HP | W | L | PF | PA | 100 | HP | W | L | PF | PA | 100 | HP | W | L | GP | Win % | PF | Avg | PA | Avg | 100 | HP | AFC East Division | | Baltimore Ravens:TB | 10 | 6 | 1340.1 | 1096.4 | 3 | 2 | 7 | 7 | 1005.6 | 891.9 | 3 | 2 | 6 | 9 | 941.5 | 1091.2 | 0 | 0 | 6 | 10 | 963.6 | 1103.5 | 0 | 0 | 11 | 5 | 1293.8 | 1106.7 | 2 | 3 | 40 | 37 | 77 | 0.519 | 5544.6 | 72.01 | 5289.7 | 68.7 | 8 | 7 | Baltimore Ravens:TB | | Buffalo Bills Dan | 5 | 9 | 948.3 | 1009.8 | 0 | 0 | 4 | 10 | 780.5 | 925.6 | 1 | 1 | 8 | 6 | 956.5 | 902.1 | 2 | 1 | 4 | 10 | 737.1 | 844.8 | 0 | 0 | 6 | 8 | 931.9 | 973.8 | 1 | 1 | 27 | 43 | 70 | 0.386 | 4354.3 | 62.2 | 4656.1 | 66.52 | 4 | 3 | Buffalo Bills Dan | | Cincinnati Bengals:Myboyjack | 6 | 8 | 1027.9 | 1034.7 | 3 | 3 | 11 | 5 | 1096.5 | 936.2 | 2 | 0 | 9 | 6 | 1102.4 | 1027.7 | 2 | 0 | 6 | 8 | 832 | 894.8 | 0 | 0 | 10 | 6 | 1205 | 1053.6 | 1 | 1 | 42 | 33 | 75 | 0.560 | 5263.8 | 70.18 | 4947 | 65.96 | 8 | 4 | Cincinnati Bengals:Myboyjack | | Indianapolis Colts:Ref | 12 | 4 | 1539 | 1187.4 | 7 | 4 | 14 | 2 | 1398.2 | 1188.3 | 4 | 3 | 9 | 7 | 1369.2 | 1173.4 | 3 | 3 | 12 | 4 | 1265.4 | 1004.2 | 2 | 1 | 9 | 6 | 1072 | 960 | 1 | 1 | 56 | 23 | 79 | 0.709 | 6643.8 | 84.1 | 5513.3 | 69.79 | 17 | 12 | Indianapolis Colts:Ref | | J'ville Jaguars:Slackjawed Yokel | 8 | 7 | 1080.9 | 1133.6 | 0 | 0 | 8 | 7 | 867.3 | 983.6 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 11 | 718.7 | 990.3 | 0 | 0 | 5 | 9 | 811 | 857 | 0 | 0 | 5 | 10 | 982.3 | 1004.6 | 1 | 1 | 29 | 44 | 73 | 0.397 | 4460.2 | 61.1 | 4969.1 | 68.07 | 1 | 1 | J'ville Jaguars:Slackjawed Yokel | | New York Jets:Great One | 10 | 6 | 1204.5 | 1072.4 | 1 | 0 | 9 | 7 | 1120.5 | 891.9 | 1 | 0 | 13 | 3 | 1366 | 990.9 | 1 | 0 | 3 | 11 | 703.7 | 884.6 | 0 | 0 | 9 | 7 | 989.8 | 1043.1 | 0 | 0 | 44 | 34 | 78 | 0.564 | 5384.5 | 69.03 | 4882.9 | 62.6 | 3 | 0 | New York Jets:Great One | | East Division Totals | 51 | 40 | 7140.7 | 6534.3 | 14 | 9 | 53 | 38 | 6268.6 | 5817.5 | 11 | 6 | 48 | 42 | 6454.3 | 6175.6 | 8 | 4 | 36 | 52 | 5312.8 | 5588.9 | 2 | 1 | 50 | 42 | 6474.8 | 6141.8 | 6 | 7 | 238 | 214 | 452 | 0.527 | 31651.2 | 70.02 | 30258 | 66.94 | 41 | 27 | East Division Totals | | | 2002 | | | | | 2003 | | | | | 2004 | | | | | 2005 | | | | | 2006 | | | | | Totals | | | | | | | | | | | AFC West Division | W | L | PF | PA | 100 | HP | W | L | PF | PA | 100 | HP | W | L | PF | PA | 100 | HP | W | L | PF | PA | 100 | HP | W | L | PF | PA | 100 | HP | W | L | GP | Win % | PF | Avg | PA | Avg | 100 | HP | AFC West Division | | Cleveland Browns:Perm Dude | 7 | 8 | 844.5 | 914.8 | 0 | 0 | 8 | 8 | 998 | 969.4 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 11 | 698.7 | 1013.9 | 0 | 0 | 4 | 11 | 779.4 | 1005.4 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 12 | 633.9 | 972.6 | 0 | 0 | 24 | 50 | 74 | 0.324 | 3954.5 | 53.44 | 4876.1 | 65.89 | 0 | 0 | Cleveland Browns:Perm Dude | | Denver Broncos:coldwater coyotes | 5 | 9 | 873.1 | 1004 | 0 | 0 | 8 | 8 | 1140.3 | 1059.8 | 2 | 0 | 11 | 5 | 1307.1 | 1135.3 | 2 | 1 | 8 | 8 | 1129 | 1102.6 | 2 | 1 | 13 | 3 | 1334.2 | 1186.3 | 1 | 1 | 45 | 33 | 78 | 0.577 | 5783.7 | 74.15 | 5488 | 70.36 | 7 | 3 | Denver Broncos:coldwater coyotes | | Houston Texans:beastiemiked | 6 | 8 | 938.4 | 952.9 | 1 | 0 | 2 | 12 | 714.1 | 884.9 | 0 | 0 | 8 | 6 | 867.1 | 847.8 | 1 | 0 | 10 | 6 | 1064.2 | 1004.9 | 0 | 0 | 9 | 7 | 1096.1 | 1128.6 | 0 | 0 | 35 | 39 | 74 | 0.473 | 4679.9 | 63.24 | 4819.1 | 65.12 | 2 | 0 | Houston Texans:beastiemiked | | Kansas City Chiefs:smallwhirled | 4 | 10 | 678.8 | 886.9 | 0 | 0 | 8 | 8 | 1022 | 1172.6 | 1 | 0 | 2 | 12 | 790.4 | 974.2 | 0 | 0 | 11 | 5 | 1152.8 | 1105.7 | 2 | 0 | 6 | 8 | 962.9 | 932.1 | 1 | 0 | 31 | 43 | 74 | 0.419 | 4606.9 | 62.26 | 5071.5 | 68.53 | 4 | 0 | Kansas City Chiefs:smallwhirled | | Oakland Raiders:Doug | 8 | 8 | 1155 | 1070.1 | 2 | 1 | 5 | 10 | 973.5 | 1127.2 | 0 | 0 | 9 | 7 | 1170.6 | 1108.7 | 1 | 1 | 10 | 6 | 1197.9 | 1034.2 | 2 | 0 | 9 | 7 | 1268.6 | 1053 | 2 | 1 | 41 | 38 | 79 | 0.519 | 5765.6 | 72.98 | 5393.2 | 68.27 | 7 | 3 | Oakland Raiders:Doug | | San Diego Chargers:GoatLocker | 5 | 10 | 886.2 | 1197.1 | 0 | 0 | 5 | 10 | 900.9 | 1080.5 | 0 | 0 | 7 | 9 | 1052.6 | 1209.6 | 3 | 2 | 7 | 8 | 951.4 | 1034.5 | 1 | 1 | 7 | 9 | 892.1 | 1082.5 | 0 | 0 | 31 | 46 | 77 | 0.403 | 4683.2 | 60.82 | 5604.2 | 72.78 | 4 | 3 | San Diego Chargers:GoatLocker | | West Division Totals | 35 | 53 | 5376 | 6025.8 | 3 | 1 | 36 | 56 | 5748.8 | 6294.4 | 3 | 0 | 40 | 50 | 5886.5 | 6289.5 | 7 | 4 | 50 | 44 | 6274.7 | 6287.3 | 7 | 2 | 46 | 46 | 6187.8 | 6355.1 | 4 | 2 | 207 | 249 | 456 | 0.454 | 29473.8 | 64.64 | 31252 | 68.54 | 24 | 9 | West Division Totals | | | 2002 | | | | | 2003 | | | | | 2004 | | | | | 2005 | | | | | 2006 | | | | | Totals | | | | | | | | | | | NFC North Division | W | L | PF | PA | 100 | HP | W | L | PF | PA | 100 | HP | W | L | PF | PA | 100 | HP | W | L | PF | PA | 100 | HP | W | L | PF | PA | 100 | HP | W | L | GP | Win % | PF | Avg | PA | Avg | 100 | HP | NFC North Division | | Arizona Cardinals:Craig Turley | 9 | 6 | 1069.4 | 1113 | 1 | 0 | 8 | 7 | 1034.4 | 1084.3 | 1 | 0 | 6 | 8 | 1105 | 999.7 | 2 | 0 | 8 | 7 | 1315.3 | 1115.6 | 4 | 1 | 6 | 8 | 983.8 | 979.9 | 0 | 0 | 37 | 36 | 73 | 0.507 | 5507.9 | 75.45 | 5292.5 | 72.5 | 8 | 1 | Arizona Cardinals:Craig Turley | | Chicago Bears:CCRider | 6 | 10 | 1083.9 | 1194.1 | 0 | 0 | 7 | 9 | 1090.1 | 1048.2 | 2 | 1 | 11 | 5 | 1421.2 | 1106.1 | 2 | 1 | 9 | 7 | 1176.1 | 1074.5 | 2 | 2 | 12 | 4 | 1203.1 | 977 | 4 | 1 | 45 | 35 | 80 | 0.563 | 5974.4 | 74.68 | 5399.9 | 67.5 | 10 | 5 | Chicago Bears:CCRider | | Green Bay Packers:skinneej | 6 | 8 | 919.7 | 880 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 12 | 749.9 | 1006.1 | 0 | 0 | 10 | 6 | 1194.2 | 1033.6 | 3 | 2 | 4 | 10 | 864.4 | 1076.2 | 1 | 1 | 6 | 9 | 842.9 | 1043.2 | 0 | 0 | 28 | 45 | 73 | 0.384 | 4571.1 | 62.62 | 5039.1 | 69.03 | 5 | 4 | Green Bay Packers:skinneej | | Minnesota Vikings:TaRhEElKiD | 7 | 7 | 899.4 | 935.1 | 0 | 1 | 6 | 8 | 731.9 | 884.6 | 0 | 0 | 6 | 10 | 1003.6 | 1168.4 | 3 | 0 | 10 | 6 | 1197 | 1229.6 | 1 | 0 | 9 | 7 | 1250.4 | 1168.9 | 4 | 3 | 38 | 38 | 76 | 0.500 | 5082.3 | 66.87 | 5386.6 | 70.88 | 8 | 4 | Minnesota Vikings:TaRhEElKiD | | New York Giants:Twarpy | 8 | 8 | 1209.2 | 1216.5 | 3 | 2 | 10 | 6 | 1262.6 | 1157 | 2 | 2 | 11 | 5 | 1281.6 | 1119.9 | 2 | 1 | 7 | 7 | 849.7 | 825.3 | 0 | 0 | 4 | 10 | 790.9 | 1054 | 0 | 0 | 40 | 36 | 76 | 0.526 | 5394 | 70.97 | 5372.7 | 70.69 | 7 | 5 | New York Giants:Twarpy | | Seattle Seahawks:Promize | 12 | 4 | 1275.2 | 1087.1 | 2 | 0 | 8 | 6 | 979.8 | 961.3 | 2 | 0 | 5 | 10 | 911.1 | 1214.7 | 1 | 0 | 6 | 10 | 988.2 | 1125.7 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 12 | 809.1 | 1031.9 | 1 | 0 | 33 | 42 | 75 | 0.440 | 4963.4 | 66.18 | 5420.7 | 72.28 | 6 | 0 | Seattle Seahawks:Promize | | North Division Totals | 48 | 43 | 6456.8 | 6425.8 | 7 | 4 | 41 | 48 | 5848.7 | 6141.5 | 7 | 3 | 49 | 44 | 6916.7 | 6642.4 | 13 | 4 | 44 | 47 | 6390.7 | 6446.9 | 8 | 4 | 39 | 50 | 5880.2 | 6254.9 | 9 | 4 | 221 | 232 | 453 | 0.488 | 31493.1 | 69.52 | 31912 | 70.44 | 44 | 19 | North Division Totals | | | 2002 | | | | | 2003 | | | | | 2004 | | | | | 2005 | | | | | 2006 | | | | | Totals | | | | | | | | | | | NFC South Division | W | L | PF | PA | 100 | HP | W | L | PF | PA | 100 | HP | W | L | PF | PA | 100 | HP | W | L | PF | PA | 100 | HP | W | L | PF | PA | 100 | HP | W | L | GP | Win % | PF | Avg | PA | Avg | 100 | HP | NFC South Division | | Atlanta Falcons:Action Figures | 5 | 11 | 1023.6 | 1075.9 | 1 | 0 | 11 | 5 | 1265.8 | 1182.3 | 3 | 3 | 9 | 7 | 1017.1 | 1065.6 | 0 | 0 | 7 | 7 | 970.3 | 923 | 1 | 0 | 8 | 7 | 1205.2 | 1079.7 | 3 | 1 | 40 | 37 | 77 | 0.519 | 5482 | 71.19 | 5326.5 | 69.18 | 8 | 4 | Atlanta Falcons:Action Figures | | Dallas Cowboys:Peter N | 11 | 5 | 1214.5 | 1097.5 | 1 | 1 | 11 | 5 | 1272.3 | 1046.4 | 2 | 0 | 10 | 6 | 1293 | 1089.6 | 0 | 3 | 10 | 6 | 1267.4 | 1243 | 2 | 2 | 3 | 11 | 805.7 | 1046.8 | 0 | 0 | 45 | 33 | 78 | 0.577 | 5852.9 | 75.04 | 5523.3 | 70.81 | 5 | 6 | Dallas Cowboys:Peter N | | New Orleans Saints:Toral | 6 | 8 | 874.5 | 978.1 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 12 | 741.9 | 1037 | 0 | 0 | 6 | 8 | 861.6 | 990.1 | 0 | 0 | 7 | 7 | 978.4 | 1025.2 | 0 | 0 | 9 | 7 | 1073.1 | 1037.9 | 0 | 0 | 30 | 42 | 72 | 0.417 | 4529.5 | 62.91 | 5068.3 | 70.39 | 0 | 0 | New Orleans Saints:Toral | | Philadelphia Eagles:deepsnapper | 9 | 7 | 1141.5 | 1144.2 | 3 | 1 | 7 | 7 | 938.5 | 995.8 | 0 | 1 | 3 | 11 | 839.4 | 985.7 | 1 | 0 | 6 | 9 | 940.5 | 1049.4 | 1 | 0 | 6 | 8 | 944.3 | 928.1 | 0 | 0 | 31 | 42 | 73 | 0.425 | 4804.2 | 65.81 | 5103.2 | 69.91 | 5 | 2 | Philadelphia Eagles:deepsnapper | | San Francisco 49ers:StLCards | 8 | 8 | 1112.6 | 1069.2 | 0 | 0 | 11 | 5 | 1188.1 | 1038.6 | 2 | 2 | 9 | 6 | 1119.9 | 1004.9 | 1 | 1 | 14 | 2 | 1481.1 | 1045.2 | 6 | 6 | 11 | 5 | 1201.4 | 1073.5 | 1 | 0 | 53 | 26 | 79 | 0.671 | 6103.1 | 77.25 | 5231.4 | 66.22 | 10 | 9 | San Francisco 49ers:StLCards | | St Louis Rams:blackjackis21 | 9 | 7 | 1130.6 | 1120 | 1 | 0 | 10 | 6 | 1312.7 | 1031.5 | 2 | 1 | 8 | 8 | 1130.5 | 1275.6 | 1 | 0 | 8 | 8 | 1174.2 | 1181.2 | 3 | 1 | 10 | 6 | 1247.1 | 1102 | 2 | 2 | 45 | 35 | 80 | 0.563 | 5995.1 | 74.94 | 5710.3 | 71.38 | 9 | 4 | St Louis Rams:blackjackis21 | | South Division Totals | 48 | 46 | 6497.3 | 6484.9 | 6 | 2 | 52 | 40 | 6719.3 | 6331.6 | 9 | 7 | 45 | 46 | 6261.5 | 6411.5 | 3 | 4 | 52 | 39 | 6811.9 | 6467 | 13 | 9 | 47 | 44 | 6476.8 | 6268 | 6 | 3 | 244 | 215 | 459 | 0.532 | 32766.8 | 71.39 | 31963 | 69.64 | 37 | 25 | South Division Totals | | League Totals | 182 | 182 | 25471 | 25471 | 30 | 16 | 182 | 182 | 24585 | 24585 | 30 | 16 | 182 | 182 | 25519 | 25519 | 31 | 16 | 182 | 182 | 24790 | 24790 | 30 | 16 | 182 | 182 | 25020 | 25020 | 25 | 16 | 910 | 910 | 1820 | 0.500 | 125385 | 68.89 | 125385 | 68.89 | 146 | 80 | League Totals | | Average Score/Team/Week | | | 69.975 | | | | | | 67.542 | | | | | | 70.107 | | | | | | 68.105 | | | | | | 68.735 | | | | | | | | 68.8739 | | | | | | Average Score/Team/Week | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | League Champion | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Regular Season Best Record | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | 100: Times scoring 100 points or more | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | HP: High Point Total for the week | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Feb 25, 2007, 00:49
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This has been a pretty tough week for my RBs. First Rhodes gets a DUI and then Nash collapses and dies.
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Mar 06, 2007, 10:39
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Looks like my deadline deals have blown up in my face yet again...
Nash who was supposed to be the 1-2 punch with Mike Bell (assuming Tatum got moved--which he did) died.
Mike Bell...now behind Henry
Ced. Houston...now behind Thomas Jones
Traded Jeff Garcia...probably starter in TB and I am still looking for a starting QB. Good grief.
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| | | 128 | Action Figure
ID: 20910
Wed, Mar 21, 2007, 14:36
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Falcons agree to deal backup QB Schaub to Houston
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
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| | | 129 | Action Figure
ID: 20910
Thu, Mar 22, 2007, 15:05
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It's offical
Texans introduce Schaub as starting QB.
I now own two QB's. I started this league with none now I have 2.
I'll be entertaining offers for Bulger.
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| | | 130 | StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Sat, Mar 24, 2007, 00:03
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This was the result of the last poll regarding IDP
If the scoring and roster formulas were acceptable, would you be open to the possibility of adding Individual Defensive Players to our current positons?
Yes
11
No
5
Need More Info.
3
I was one of the no votes as I really don't like using IDP, but if we are going to do it, which the leage seems to want, then we need to get working on the details.
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| | | 131 | Doug
ID: 31655290
Thu, Mar 29, 2007, 13:41
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Although, it'd be nice to have at least half the owners voting for a measure before we proceed with it definitively. Maybe if we define it a bit more the 3 NMI owners can make a definitive vote, as well as the 5 who haven't voted.
Of course, I'm biased and still holding out hope it fails... I love IDP in general, but hate the idea of trying to incorporate it into our league at this point.
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| | | 132 | Great One
ID: 201155199
Fri, Mar 30, 2007, 17:53
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I think I voted, I don't have an option to any longer, so I assume it means I did.
Trade
GO's Jets acquire the vaunted Jets Defense for a 3rd round draft pick sent to TB's Ravens.
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| | | 133 | Great One
ID: 201155199
Fri, Mar 30, 2007, 17:56
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I think I voted, I don't have an option to any longer, so I assume it means I did.
Trade
GO's Jets acquire the vaunted Jets Defense for a 3rd round draft pick sent to TB's Ravens.
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| | | 134 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Fri, Mar 30, 2007, 18:38
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I confirm
I confirm
;)
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Apr 03, 2007, 18:03
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I never got an emial on this for some reason. Off-season trades are supposed ot be on. I will approve it...
As for possible rule changes. There will be a formal league vote on any rules change proposals that have enough backing. There are two proposals in which we will form exploratory committees on. I have a few volunteers but could prob use a couple more. Now that baseball season is underway, we should probably move forward on these committees.
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| | | 136 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Apr 24, 2007, 18:05
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OK, Hoops season is over, so we need to get working on the committees. Had a few people lined up (need to go back and look through my emails). We'd like to have two committees formed to discuss and formulate a plan to present to the league (yea or nay) on:
1. IDP implementation
2. Realignment/DH so teams can play their own Div. twice and everyone once
You don't need to have a preference, but if you do have a preference be prepared to play devil's advocate so we can see both sides of each issue.
We will probably want five members plus Cards and myself on each committee. You can be on more than one committee, but we'd like to have a range of managers (different level of success last season/overall/experience in G24/G20s, etc.)
These and the other proposals are listed on our site.
Also, CBS is giving us 50% off the site this year and the early bird price is due by June 27th.
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| | | 137 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Tue, Apr 24, 2007, 19:19
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I'm down with an early bird price and being on any committee. How about a new thread, though. This scrolling left and right stuff is for the birds.
TB
PS. Shoot me any sheets you want to post this year and I'll be more than happy to try to fight them into a normal thread width. =)
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| | | 138 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Apr 24, 2007, 20:17
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Yep! As soon as these committees are formed, we will start an offseason thread. There is no way to get that grid any smaller really. I threw it onto the thread for those who can't read .xls files on our site. Since it was at the end, didn't think it would make much difference.
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| | | 139 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Tue, Apr 24, 2007, 22:04
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Maybe it just needs to be split into three year increments or I really like the idea of having a thread dedicated for charts and records. That way they don't get lost in the discussion threads and the discussion threads don't get this wacky. I am going to keep posting this extrememly long paragraph because I am curious how far to the right it will actually go. Crappy weather here in KC today, but seeing how I was inside for most of it, doesn't matter much. I think I will go eat some dinner as soon as I am done typing all this up. NFL draft in 3 days and a wake-up. I love the draft. Maybe I can make a trade or two and somehow move back into the first round or early second for our league upcoming draft. Okay, that should be about enough for this test.
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| | | 140 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Tue, Apr 24, 2007, 22:06
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It's like posting in landscape, but reading in portrait. =)
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| | | 141 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Apr 26, 2007, 15:08
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Hasn't been as much response as we'd hoped. This is your chance to be involved and help shape these rules or be a part of the withdrawal of these proposals altogether.
We might just use one committee for both rules. Along with Cards and myself we have TB, Peter N and bj21 on the committe. Would like to get a couple more to join the fray.
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| | | 142 | Great One
Sustainer
ID: 053272014
Thu, Apr 26, 2007, 15:27
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I'll do it. I have plenty of free time! lol...
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| | | 143 | THK
ID: 593552911
Sun, Apr 29, 2007, 14:03
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I could help up in IDP discussion if needed since I have a lot of experience playing with IDP's...
Also, I agree we should have a thread for just graphs and facts so they never get lost in 200 post threads...
Lastly, damn you Calvin Johnson. You better command doubles and leave Roy open all the time.
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Apr 30, 2007, 16:54
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Thanks thk, but we've already filled out the committee.
More about that and further discussion can be found in our Off-Season Thread.
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