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| Posted by: Mike D
- Leader [041831612] Sat, Apr 28, 2007, 12:37
Russell to the Raiders as expected. Calvin Johnson goes second. |
| | | 1 | Boxman
ID: 571114225
Sat, Apr 28, 2007, 12:47
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Browns pass on Quinn and go with Thomas. My little conspiracy theory is that Weiss told Romeo something confidential that would keep him from drafting Quinn. Quinn slides to at least Washington now. The Browns could've used a QB too so them passing on Quinn is interesting.
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| | | 2 | Rendle
Donor
ID: 014815714
Sat, Apr 28, 2007, 12:56
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Definitely interesting. Quinn was the sexy pick but I'm kinda glad I didn't have to cheer for Brady Quinn now. Do the Browns now go for Stanton or the BYU QB 2nd round?
Adams goes to TB. This could set up a Calvin Johnson trade. We shall see.
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| | | 3 | Boxman
ID: 571114225
Sat, Apr 28, 2007, 13:04
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I love it how the ESPN cameras show Quinn after the Cardinals take Brown. As if the Cards would draft that guy considering they have Leinart.
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| | | 4 | barilko6
ID: 413172811
Sat, Apr 28, 2007, 13:17
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Biggest surprise for me so far, no trades yet.
And...Minnesota gets to look at both Adrian Peterson and Brady Quinn. They would have been happy to have just one of those guys on the board for their selection I would think.
Minny will take AP, and I think Quinn drops down to Miami.
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| | | 5 | Rendle
Donor
ID: 014815714
Sat, Apr 28, 2007, 13:22
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Sounds like it will be Peterson as Tavaris is their QB of the future.
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| | | 6 | barilko6
ID: 413172811
Sat, Apr 28, 2007, 13:31
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I wonder if there is any chance Okoye drops to Buffalo at number 12. That would be nice.
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| | | 7 | Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Sat, Apr 28, 2007, 13:48
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49ers might have a very interesting choice between Okoye and Willis.
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| | | 8 | barilko6
ID: 413172811
Sat, Apr 28, 2007, 13:51
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Ted Ginn?!?!?
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| | | 9 | Electroman
ID: 73332719
Sat, Apr 28, 2007, 13:52
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Ginn to the Dolphins, wow! Where does Quinn go now?
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| | | 10 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sat, Apr 28, 2007, 13:53
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Man the look on Quinn's face when he got passed by Miami wsa priceless. I hope Quinn comes back to prove all these team's wrong, but I gotta admit, I don't think he will be great. Still, you never know. I like the guy.
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| | | 11 | barilko6
ID: 413172811
Sat, Apr 28, 2007, 13:54
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I wouldn't be surprised if Quinn goes to the Rams...
But serious, TED GINN?!?!?
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| | | 12 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sat, Apr 28, 2007, 13:56
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Doesn't Ginn have a foot injury too?
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| | | 13 | Electroman
ID: 73332719
Sat, Apr 28, 2007, 13:56
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Quinn said, "Man, that's a surprise."
Maybe the Lions will get him in the early second round:)
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| | | 14 | Rendle
Donor
ID: 014815714
Sat, Apr 28, 2007, 13:57
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HAHA, my dad told me he goes to church with a teacher from Glenville High School where Ginn went. She said he had some big time learning disabilities and most of the time he didn't have specific routes that he ran. They just let him run out and do his thing. With that speed it'll be interesting to see how he fares in the NFL.
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| | | 15 | barilko6
ID: 413172811
Sat, Apr 28, 2007, 13:59
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I am liking who will be available to the Bills for their first round pick.
I hope they have that same choice SF has in post 7.
What team is most likely to push hard and trade up for a pick to get Quinn? What would it take for Detroit to get another pick? Their second this year and first and third next year?
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| | | 16 | Electroman
ID: 73332719
Sat, Apr 28, 2007, 14:02
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Would Buffalo maybe think about Quinn? Has Losman sold everyone yet? Otherwise, Dallas will probably get him at 22.
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| | | 17 | barilko6
ID: 413172811
Sat, Apr 28, 2007, 14:04
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I think Buffalo likes Losman after his second half of the season he had last year. If the season ended after half a season, Buffalo would seriously look at Quinn.
I think the Bills have too many needs to afford the luxury of taking Quinn.
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| | | 18 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 041831612
Sat, Apr 28, 2007, 14:05
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It's the recent trend of being careful with using a really high pick on a QB unless you feel 100% sure about him. Apparently the Dolphins didn't. I also think the stories of Culpepper being gone or not playing much this coming year are overrated. We'll see.
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| | | 19 | barilko6
ID: 413172811
Sat, Apr 28, 2007, 14:07
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If I am the GM of a lot of teams, I make a push to get a pick soon and take Quinn. I think he will be good, he has that intangible of wanting to succeed that a lot of players don't have.
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| | | 20 | Electroman
ID: 73332719
Sat, Apr 28, 2007, 14:08
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This will certainly put a chip on his shoulder.
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| | | 21 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sat, Apr 28, 2007, 14:10
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Cameron loves Trent Green. Had him in Washington after he came out of Indiana and helped make him what he is today. Then Cameron goes to Indiana (where he sank the program even lower). With Green, there's your starter and Daunte is history.
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| | | 22 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 041831612
Sat, Apr 28, 2007, 14:10
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Quinn would be a nice addition for a lot of teams. But not every team can afford the price of making a push for a guy to sit on the bench for 2 years, in the case of "a lot of teams." They also have other needs to fill.
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| | | 23 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 041831612
Sat, Apr 28, 2007, 14:11
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Ref, I'll agree if and when they acquire Green.
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| | | 24 | barilko6
ID: 413172811
Sat, Apr 28, 2007, 14:13
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But a lot of teams have new coaches/GM's that have the luxury of having those extra seasons of grace to build. Plus Matt Millen has pictures of someone because he just inked a new deal as well.
I think someone in the next 6 picks would take Detroit's 2008 1st and 2007 2nd for their first this year.
That being said, Buffalo ALWAYS seems to throw curveballs out at the draft, they won't pick Quinn, but since everyone is projecting they take Willis, I think they go Greg Olsen.
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| | | 25 | RebelFan42
ID: 0242323
Sat, Apr 28, 2007, 14:15
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Today's draft with the falling of quinn makes me think more of a couple of years ago with Aaron Rodgers. Many thought he was a top five or ten pick and he fell all the way to the mid-twenties. I don't think Quinn falls that far, but I couldn't tell you who is going to grab him. I guess the question is how much does green bay love aaron rodgers, and how badly do they want a first round running back. Wouldn't surprise me if that is where he ends up going
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| | | 26 | Trip
Leader
ID: 13961611
Sat, Apr 28, 2007, 14:16
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Great, the Dolphins draft John Avery again. Looking forward to another year going backwards.
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| | | 27 | barilko6
ID: 413172811
Sat, Apr 28, 2007, 14:17
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haha...Keyshawn is on air saying that Carolina should take Quinn, and that he and Steve Smith would make him a star. I wonder how Delhomme feels about that?
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| | | 28 | Electroman
ID: 73332719
Sat, Apr 28, 2007, 14:18
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I really doubt that Green Bay would draft Quinn. Taking 2 QB's in the first round in 3 years would be as strange as Detroit taking a WR in 4 of the last 5 years.
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| | | 29 | barilko6
ID: 413172811
Sat, Apr 28, 2007, 14:19
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Crap, Bills have no shot at Willis.
I am guessing Leon Hall or Greg Olsen.
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| | | 30 | Electroman
ID: 73332719
Sat, Apr 28, 2007, 14:23
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Hey Mike, who would you like to see the Iggles take at 26? Seems that they may look DB, but if Jarrett is available, I would love to see him in Philly green.
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| | | 31 | barilko6
ID: 413172811
Sat, Apr 28, 2007, 14:27
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Lynch to the Bills. I don't know much about him, but I like the pick, as it fills a HUGE need.
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| | | 32 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sat, Apr 28, 2007, 14:28
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Re: 23
I posted that because since they passed on Quinn, I am assuming it's all but a done deal.
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| | | 33 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sat, Apr 28, 2007, 14:42
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I'm looking for where Quinn is going to fall and I can't find an obvious destination. I do'nt even see the Bears trading up for him.
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| | | 34 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sat, Apr 28, 2007, 14:44
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Surely the Panthers will take a Safety over Quinn.
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| | | 35 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 041831612
Sat, Apr 28, 2007, 14:44
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Electro, I had been resigned to the Birds taking a safety.
BUT, I really do believe they will be going "best player" available, the key being it is based on their top secret grades.........
I would have liked a trade up for Willis.
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| | | 36 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sat, Apr 28, 2007, 14:44
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Could the Jets trade up?
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| | | 37 | Electroman
ID: 73332719
Sat, Apr 28, 2007, 14:45
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They just did.
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| | | 38 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 041831612
Sat, Apr 28, 2007, 14:45
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Houston could be a sleeper pick at CB for the Iggles. They are enamored with him if what they have said is true due to his experience in press coverage.
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| | | 39 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sat, Apr 28, 2007, 14:47
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They did!
A 1st, 2nd and 6th for a 1st and 5th!!!
They would do that to get Quinn when they just got Clemens? Man I don't know if they will take Quinn or not for that much. A Corner? I don't know.
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| | | 41 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sat, Apr 28, 2007, 14:51
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1, 2 and 5th for 1 and 6th. Even more expensive.
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| | | 42 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sat, Apr 28, 2007, 14:52
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Why are the Jets taking os long after making a trade to get this pick?
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| | | 43 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sat, Apr 28, 2007, 14:54
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They took a corner. So the Steelers will take a corner. Man I don't know how far Quinn is going to fall but it could be a ways.
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| | | 44 | Electroman
ID: 73332719
Sat, Apr 28, 2007, 14:58
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Dallas at 22, or KC at 23? Is Romo the answer in Dallas? The further he falls, Chicago could be looking seriously at him.
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| | | 45 | Rendle
Donor
ID: 014815714
Sat, Apr 28, 2007, 14:59
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Uh oh, they said the Browns are inquiring about trading up for Quinn.
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| | | 46 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sat, Apr 28, 2007, 15:02
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Can they afford him though? The way I see it, it will be cheaper the longer they wait.
I knew there was no way Timmons would make it to the Colts at 32. There were some early mock drafts that had him falling that far. But Hamels would be a great pick at 32. Having a torn biceps muscle, he's flying under the radar. Still the Colts need a LB in the worst way. But couldn't pass up Hamels if he is there.
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| | | 47 | Rendle
Donor
ID: 014815714
Sat, Apr 28, 2007, 15:06
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It would cost the Browns 2nd round pick and their 1st round next year which could be a top 10 pick. Would be a helluva first day for the Browns if they can pull it off.
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| | | 48 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sat, Apr 28, 2007, 15:13
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I would want more than that if I had to wait a year.
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| | | 49 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sat, Apr 28, 2007, 15:15
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OMG!!!! Harell went #16!!!
Guess he hit the radar afterall! I am shocked he went so high given his injury he's coming off of. It's a good pick, but relaly thought he'd fall farther. I was very excited at the prospect of him still being there at #32.
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| | | 50 | Electroman
ID: 73332719
Sat, Apr 28, 2007, 15:24
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Denver just traded up?
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| | | 51 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sat, Apr 28, 2007, 15:25
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They have Cutler!
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| | | 52 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sat, Apr 28, 2007, 15:27
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A 1, 3 and 6 to move up four spots? Are you kidding me? Well they def. won't be getting Quinn here. There was spomone above them that had the same need.
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| | | 53 | Electroman
ID: 73332719
Sat, Apr 28, 2007, 15:28
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I guess that Cincy takes Leon Hall here.
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| | | 54 | Rendle
Donor
ID: 014815714
Sat, Apr 28, 2007, 15:32
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JAX might have traded down to still get Quinn. Denver, Cincy, Tennessee, and the Giants definitely don't need a QB.
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| | | 55 | Great One
ID: 201155199
Sat, Apr 28, 2007, 15:38
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If thats the case - its a brilliant strategic move by Jacksonville.
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| | | 56 | Electroman
ID: 73332719
Sat, Apr 28, 2007, 16:01
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Funny, all the experts were saying that after Revis and Hall, there was a big drop off in CB. Yet 2 picks after Hall, the Giants take Ross. Does that mean Hall fell or that the Giants took a reach?
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| | | 57 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sat, Apr 28, 2007, 16:12
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Is it just me or is Keyshawn really clueless? Mort and Mel just stop talking sometimes when he says some of his uneducated crap.
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| | | 58 | Electroman
ID: 73332719
Sat, Apr 28, 2007, 16:12
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Keyshawn knows a lot about Keyshawn.
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| | | 59 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sat, Apr 28, 2007, 16:16
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Here goes Quinn at 22.
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| | | 60 | Electroman
ID: 73332719
Sat, Apr 28, 2007, 16:17
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Clevland just traded up, here goes Quinn.
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| | | 61 | Rendle
Donor
ID: 014815714
Sat, Apr 28, 2007, 16:18
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Wow, I don't even care that Frasor just blew a save.
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| | | 62 | Electroman
ID: 73332719
Sat, Apr 28, 2007, 17:00
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Philly and the 'Boys make a trade. The end must be coming soon.
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| | | 63 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 041831612
Sat, Apr 28, 2007, 18:35
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Indeed. Philly radio all upset that they dealt with the devil. But I like the move. Supposedly they wanted Merriweather or Beason but both went in the two picks before them.
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| | | 64 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 041831612
Sat, Apr 28, 2007, 18:49
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Can't wait to hear the Eagles explain their thoughts on picking Kolb at 36.
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| | | 65 | Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Sat, Apr 28, 2007, 19:47
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Damn.....49ers trade away their 2nd with Jarrett there for the taking. Okay you got a 4th rounder AND a 2008 1st, but damn he was just begging to be taken!
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Donor
ID: 014815714
Sat, Apr 28, 2007, 19:47
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Keyshawn isn't getting any better.
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| | | 68 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 041831612
Sat, Apr 28, 2007, 22:15
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To the naive that almost looks like a dump.
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| | | 69 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sat, Apr 28, 2007, 22:30
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LOL. Leave it to Mike D to state the obvious!
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| | | 70 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 041831612
Sat, Apr 28, 2007, 23:30
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It's my curse. It's my gift. ;)
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Donor
ID: 036635522
Sun, Apr 29, 2007, 01:44
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The Lions had to get something for Williams at this point, he was already going to be released so something is something. Also they had no use for Williams and McCown anymore so that's why the trade was made.
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Leader
ID: 041831612
Sun, Apr 29, 2007, 09:59
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Comcast's Derrick Gunn said a source inside the Eagles told him the Eagles had Kolb rated higher than Brady Quinn. Save that for a few years from now......
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ID: 25102616
Sun, Apr 29, 2007, 10:54
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NFL network is reporting that Randy Moss is in NE for a physical. If he passes then NE is giving Oakland a 4th round pick for him.
Talk about an aggresive offseason. NE has to be far and away the favorite to win the super bowl this season. They will have Donte Stallworth lining up across from Moss !!!
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| | | 74 | mtpoke25
ID: 53213118
Sun, Apr 29, 2007, 11:04
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Moss makes $10M per each of the next two seasons! Ouch to the salary cap.
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Leader
ID: 049346417
Sun, Apr 29, 2007, 11:06
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WTF? Moss and Darrell Jackson are only worth 4 round picks?????????
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Apr 29, 2007, 11:37
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Yet unrpove college guys are getting 1st 2nd and 5ths. Makes little sense. The Colts traded up in the 2nd I think and paid a 1st with another pick. WTF??!
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| | | 77 | Electroman
ID: 73332719
Sun, Apr 29, 2007, 11:50
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Looks like it is official. Moss is a Patriot.
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Dude
ID: 07724916
Sun, Apr 29, 2007, 13:48
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I love the Darrell Jackson move by the 49ers.
Moss in NE ought to be interesting. What is the over/under on Moss getting suspended? Week 2? Of course, he could see the ring and be the perfect boy scout.
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ID: 46315247
Sun, Apr 29, 2007, 14:24
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You can now bring back from storage and dust off the Moss bust model for Canton, he's back on track. I'll take any over/under bet regarding suspension. He is so happy to be out of Loserville he'll be a "team player".
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ID: 201155199
Sun, Apr 29, 2007, 14:44
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Good news for Jerry Porter owners. That and the new coach. And a new QB. I should have traded for him in G24. Oh wait, I did. Nice! lol...
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Donor
ID: 052753312
Sun, Apr 29, 2007, 19:32
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Anyone else think the Colts had quite possibly the worst draft ever? I am sick of people saying they did a good job at filling positions they need. They didn't draft a LB (their biggest need) until the 4th round. I am so glad they traded up to pass again on David Harris (6-2 242 Michigan ILB) and then draft an LT. I forget who was the Colts LT last year? (Answer: Pro Bowler Tarik Glenn) And the first round, "Let's draft a WR." Who was the Colts WR's last year? (Answer Pro Bowlers and future Canton enshrinees Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne.) I had to listen to the idiots say how much the Colts needed a replacement to Brandon Stokely, but he played 4 games and had 8 catches last year. How much do they really NEED him when they have Dallas Clark who doubles as a slot receiver? I would be so glad if the Colts drafted Harris and Paul Posluszny (Penn St. OLB) and then have Brackett as thier third LB. Only time will tell what happens with this draft I guess.
I am so glad our defense was so good last year because our offense struggled so much. [/sarcasm]
If someone who is wise to the draft can correct something I am missing please do so.
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| | | 82 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 354152921
Sun, Apr 29, 2007, 20:34
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WTF? Moss and Darrell Jackson are only worth 4 round picks?????????
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Yet unrpove college guys are getting 1st 2nd and 5ths. Makes little sense. The Colts traded up in the 2nd I think and paid a 1st with another pick. WTF??!
Wouldn't this have to do with contracts? I know Moss has a big contract and I'm sure Jackson does as well. Seems the hit in salary cap would make teams less willing to give up higher picks that could be used on guys with less salary cap impact.
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| | | 83 | Frick
Donor
ID: 3410101718
Sun, Apr 29, 2007, 23:42
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Kyle, people went absolutely beserk when Polian drafted Reggie Wayne several years ago, the defense was terrible and had gaping hole and the Colts draft a WR. That move seems to have paid off for them. WRs need a couple of years to transition to the NFL, if Gonzalez is ready in 2 years Harrison will be getting close to retirement. Ugoh will probably play mostly at G next year and will be an upgrade, plus will be ready to move to T in a couple of years as Glenn either retires or moves on.
I'm not going to criticize any Polian draft until he pulls a complete stinker or two. I'll give the guy a little credit after the Leaf/Manning and Edge/Ricky Williams choices.
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| | | 84 | wiggs@work
ID: 22281816
Mon, Apr 30, 2007, 07:16
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I absolutely hate what Dallas Did with their draft.
You have a shot at Dwayne Bowe in the 1st round but trade it for a 2nd and next year 1st. Then they turn around and give up their 2nd, 3rd and 5th for the 26th pick. Wouldnt it have been better to take more picks this season? I have to assume they could have gotten Cleveland's 2nd 3rd and possibly 4th this season (3rd overall) and done alot more damage. I like spencer, but not enough to ruin this seasons draft./
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| | | 85 | barilko6
ID: 16312296
Mon, Apr 30, 2007, 08:00
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I have actually seen a couple of articles that say the Colts had one of the better drafts this past weekend. I think adding Gonzalez to that offense is going to make them even more scary, already by game 4 this year.
If only the Bills had a better weekend rating...
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Apr 30, 2007, 12:07
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I agree with Kyle here. Even if they feel they needed Gonzales, why Ugoh? By all accounts he is not an NFL starter at this time. He defintely shouldn't be starting for the Colts. They are talking about grooming him for when Glenn retires, but Glenn hasn't even talked about retirement yet. Obviously they are making sure that Peyton always has protection from his backside, but man, I think he may have been there later and to give upnext year's first for him? Sure he may have went in the first next year, but you are paying him and developing him for a whole year when you could be doing that for a LB. Then you could have given up your first next year for him if need be. Maybe that's not practical but whatever.
I really have a lot of faith in Polian. His picks usually pan out and he is a great football mind. Perhaps they didn't like the guys on the board, but in the press conference they said they were aiming at Gonzo and one other guy the entire draft. Obviously he knows something we don't but I am still in shock. He's done a great job on finding diamonds so we shall see.
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Donor
ID: 3410101718
Mon, Apr 30, 2007, 14:40
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The Colts have a habit of drafting linemen, playing them at Guard before moving them to Tackle. I know that Diem played Guard his rookie year and I think that Glenn did also. Even if Glenn isn't thinking about retirement, he is gettin up there in age, his current contract expiring and his weight issues make the pick a bit more logical.
The Colts have had quite a bit of success of finding LB later in the draft, other than Rob Morris, were any of their other recent draft picks higher than the 2nd round? Peterson maybe?
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| | | 88 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, May 01, 2007, 17:00
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I was thinking Peterson was a 2nd, but I could easily be wrong.
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| | | 89 | Kyle
Donor
ID: 052753312
Tue, May 01, 2007, 18:02
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I looked on Yahoo. He was a second rounder (36 overall). I knew he was a 1999 draft choice and looked on wikipedia, but they have him listed as "Matt Gallop, LB, Florida"
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