Forum: foot
Page 4875
Subject: Football 101

  Posted by: Great One - Sustainer [053272014] Thu, Jul 26, 2007, 10:32
Under the banner of the successful Baseball 101 league... the concept will be the same.

$101 (actually $101.50 :)
Yahoo! PLUS League
14 Teams
4 Keepers
Live Draft on Sept 4th 6:45 (or 10:30)

$1300 in prizes including 20 dollar weekly high score payout as well as 20 for the highest score of the season.
$50 last place penalty paid to regular season champion.
Weekly bonuses (paid at seasons end) and penalty encourage managers to stay active to the end to avoid the penalty or for a team decimated early on by injury to possibly throw up a big week or two and make some money back.

I have 4 people interested so far before posting this, so shoot me an email if you have interest in joining us. This league is meant to be deep and offer lots of different ways to score some points.
$101 must be paid prior to Sept 4th unless other arrangments have been made.

QB
RB
RB
WR/RB
WR
WR
WR/TE
TE
K
DEF
IDP - DB
IDP - LB/DL

Notables - IDP, Return yards, 1/2 Point per reception, increased points for long FG's, increased points for points allowed by Team D

Passing Yards (30 yards per point)
Passing Touchdowns (4)
Interceptions (-2)
Rushing Yards (10 yards per point)
Rushing Touchdowns (6)
Receptions (.5)
Reception Yards (10 yards per point)
Reception Touchdowns (6)
Return Yards (25 yards per point)
Return Touchdowns (6)
2-Point Conversions (2)
Fumbles Lost (-2)
Offensive Fumble Return TD (6)
Field Goals 0-19 Yards (3)
Field Goals 20-29 Yards (3)
Field Goals 30-39 Yards (4)
Field Goals 40-49 Yards (5)
Field Goals 50+ Yards (6)
Point After Attempt Made (1)
Point After Attempt Missed (-2)
Sack (1)
Interception (2)
Fumble Recovery (2)
Touchdown (6)
Safety (2)
Block Kick (2)
Kickoff and Punt Return Touchdowns (0)
Points Allowed 0 points (12)
Points Allowed 1-6 points (8)
Points Allowed 7-13 points (4)
Points Allowed 14-20 points (2)
Points Allowed 21-27 points (0)
Points Allowed 28-34 points (-1)
Points Allowed 35+ points (-4)
Tackle Solo (0.5)
Sack (3)
Interception (4)
Fumble Force (2)
Fumble Recovery (2)
Touchdown (6)
Safety (4)
Pass Defended (1)
Block Kick (2)

 
1Great One
      ID: 201155199
      Fri, Jul 27, 2007, 08:46 		Sent out several invites after getting some good responses. Just a note, I won't upgrade to a PLUS league til closer to draft time and we definitely know this is official.
 
2Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Mon, Jul 30, 2007, 12:13 		I believe we are likely to drop IDP off here as a couple people were on the fence about it. We can have a simple vote once we get things a bit more settled. I'll abstain to make it an odd number.

Based on discussions I've had (and a few yet to sign up) we still have 4-5 spots available here, so it'll probably take a couple weeks to get that squared away and then we can hash out the IDP. I am also gonna throw 3 different payout options and we can all vote which the group likes the best. One would be a bit more top heavy, one gives $ back to anyone who makes the playoffs, a third somewhere in the middle.

Regardless, I will definitely be doing $20 high score every week and $40 to the regular season high (leaving 1000 for the end of season payouts). We tried this in another league and I loved it. You could blow the doors off someone head to head... but still have a reason to watch MNF because you want the weekly high score, or to keep pouring it on to give you the highest score that season. And if your star gets hurt early and leaves you buried in the standings, it provides incentive for later on in the season to try and get some $ back. My first thought before doing this last year was that I was annoyed that a couple hundred was chopped off the prize pool, what I then realized as I got into the playoffs was that if I was in the prize pool, I probably picked up a few high scores along the way anyhow.
 
3 Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Mon, Jul 30, 2007, 13:54 		Interested -- but only if there are IDP.
 
4Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Tue, Jul 31, 2007, 09:25 		Email sent.
 
5Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Tue, Jul 31, 2007, 14:14 		For those contemplating, here are a few who have confirmed they will be participating...

GO
Wiggs
MJD
NY Studs (as well as a friend of his I believe)
Doug
Toral (tentative)
my brother (who won the last Gurupie league I invited him too and makes more trades than me lol...)
my good friend Jay Sherby who'll I'll be nominating for the next available G24 spot, a top notch player

Thats a pretty nice core.

So in the next 4 weeks, we are looking for minimum 4 more people... and frankly I'd like 6 more.
And if the short notice of the $101 is a concern for anyone I will gladly work something out with you this season.
Its more about getting the right people for the long haul than having an arbitrary deadline for $$$.

Now if Mike D only liked keeper leagues :)
Barilko?
 
6Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Tue, Jul 31, 2007, 14:36 		1 more thing I forgot... since this will be a Yahoo! PLUS league, you will not have to pay for Statracker this season so be sure to factor that in.
Your participation in a PLUS league gives you Statracker for all of your leagues on that Yahoo particular account.
 
7Great One
      ID: 201155199
      Tue, Jul 31, 2007, 17:43 		This league just gets more and more prestigious lol...
after much recruiting, I'm pleased to announce the acquisition of Tree who I expect will be representing the No Remorse Corps.

Sure, I had to bribe him with an autographed steel chair from Ric Flair... but it was worth it :)
 
8Tree
      ID: 27623118
      Tue, Jul 31, 2007, 22:40 		This league just gets more and more prestigious lol...
after much recruiting, I'm pleased to announce the acquisition of Tree who I expect will be representing the No Remorse Corps.

LOL - wow, an official announcement. And while i toyed with the No Remorse Corps, i believe i will probably be representing Sweet & Sour International...
 
9Great One
      ID: 201155199
      Tue, Jul 31, 2007, 23:14 		You missed the live press conference!

I believe I have made another significant acquisition this evening. I am waiting for the league office to review the paperwork.
One of the things requiring review would be the conversion rates as this is an international talent :)
 
10Tree
      ID: 27623118
      Tue, Jul 31, 2007, 23:33 		you got Takeshi Morishima, ROH World Champion, to play fantasy football!?!??!
 
11 JTSERB
      ID: 312231116
      Wed, Aug 01, 2007, 02:54 		I am interested with or with out the IDP

shoot me an email
 
12Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Wed, Aug 01, 2007, 08:56 		Email sent.

No Tree, this talent has been training with Stu Hart.
 
13Great One
      ID: 201155199
      Thu, Aug 02, 2007, 13:02 		If 6:45 on Sept 4th was a concern - anyone have thoughts on Thursday, August 23rd at 7:30 or 10:00 PM?

Personally, I like the one 2 days before the season starts, especially being the initial draft for a keeper league, I don't want anyone screwed right out of the box if someone breaks a leg or something major...
 
14Tree
      ID: 3533298
      Thu, Aug 02, 2007, 13:06 		no can do August 23rd, or that entire weekend for a live draft. i've got friends in town for the mets game that night, and then ROH that weekend.
 
15Great One
      ID: 201155199
      Thu, Aug 02, 2007, 13:10 		Also like to announce the addition of Barilko to the league.
Another good active manager.

Although he is Canadian... :)
 
16Great One
      ID: 201155199
      Thu, Aug 02, 2007, 13:17 		Yeah, I was trying to stay away from weekends. I am also away that weekend (Aug 25) through Wednesday... then there is a couple day window that seems to be a popular choice with nothing between 5 PM and 11 PM... then its Labor Day weekend.

So thats kind of how I settled on that Tuesday after Labor Day Monday... 6:45 isn't too bad, I guess its just a bit close for some to get home in time. For me its perfect, I'm gonna pick up some food on the way home from work and I'm good to go. Should be fun.

Also, I believe Toral is opting out afterall... so we are continuing to look for about 4 more people.
 
17ukula
      ID: 4740210
      Thu, Aug 02, 2007, 13:23 		Is the 6:45 draft time set in stone? I can only do drafts after 9:00

ukula
 
18barilko6
      ID: 46637248
      Thu, Aug 02, 2007, 13:30 		I am pretty sure the Canadian part is a bonus...

How embarrassing is it going to be when I take this thing down and we don't even have an NFL team, or ESPN, or American football coverage.

I claim Doug Flutie as my first selection. He is good, isn't he?


I cannot do a live draft until after the 26th as well. That Tuesday night works out for me, anytime.
 
19Great One
      ID: 201155199
      Thu, Aug 02, 2007, 13:35 		Only other options on those days are like 11 PM and thats definitely too late.

Again, I could go back to say August 21 or 22 (9 PM) but honestly, I don't know how I feel about going a full 2 weeks backwards, especially for an initial keeper draft which is obviously pretty important... if we could get these last few spots filled then we could vote on this.
 
20Doug
      ID: 441251914
      Thu, Aug 02, 2007, 13:35 		I assume you guys are talking EST? Remember that 6:45 is 3:45 out here on the west coast. Personally my "work hours" situation is in flux, so it could turn out that 3:45 works perfectly well for me... just something to keep in mind, particularly if there are any west coast managers with "normal work hours" (self excluded).
 
21Great One
      ID: 201155199
      Thu, Aug 02, 2007, 13:36 		I reccomend Raghib Ismail! :)
 
22Great One
      ID: 201155199
      Thu, Aug 02, 2007, 13:40 		Yeah, I guess thats why all the 9 PM starts are wiped out except for Saturday nights in early August lol..

I am not sure of any other west coast folks - JTSERB's team is Chicago something so if he lives there then thats 5:45 for him and thats reasonable. Don't know about MJD.

Wiggs is in NY I believe, Tree as well. NY Studs I assume... and then my brother and friend Jay are in NJ with myself.
 
23barilko6
      ID: 46637248
      Thu, Aug 02, 2007, 13:42 		Great One...are you saying that Wiggs and Tree are NY studs? Hmm...
 
24Great One
      ID: 201155199
      Thu, Aug 02, 2007, 13:51 		Look, I know sometimes things get lost in translation... I'll have to get you a English/Canadianese dictionary :)
 
25Pancho Villa
      ID: 495272016
      Thu, Aug 02, 2007, 14:00 		MST for me(Mountain Standard Time)

I'm my own boss, so any time is OK with me. Well, the kids are the real boss.
 
26barilko6
      ID: 46637248
      Thu, Aug 02, 2007, 14:03 		Wiggs is in NY I believe, Tree as well. NY Studs I assume...


Looked pretty clear to me...
 
27Great One
      ID: 201155199
      Thu, Aug 02, 2007, 14:09 		Why can't everyone else just be their own boss! :) Thank PV
 
28mjd
      Sustainer
      ID: 501381415
      Thu, Aug 02, 2007, 17:14 		I'm ET and am semi/self/unemployed.

I can draft whenever.
 
29Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Fri, Aug 03, 2007, 14:45 		I am psyched for the PLUS league... I'll probably pay for it next Thursday when I get my paycheck.

It also says we get preferred draft times - which means perhaps we can move up our time on that September 4th to a more reasonable 8 PM or so.

Especially for the league record book, a way to track the finances and being able to enter keeper picks before a draft. That means we can still do a live draft even with keepers which is pretty sweet.
League prize is a trophy or t-shirt too!

What does my league get with the upgrade?
Live Scoring with StatTracker®
Draft Kit
Official Trade Protests
Weekly Scouting Report
Expanded Buzz Index
Prizes for League Winners
Expanded Who's Hot
League Record Book
Keeper-Style Pre-Draft Picks
Preferred Customer Support
League Finances Tracker
Latest Trades Tool
 
30Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Fri, Aug 03, 2007, 14:49 		It also appears that when you have a Plus team - it doesn't count against your 4 teams you can have in regular Yahoo leagues (under 1 ID)... so if you were debating that you had to cut a league becuase you couldn't squeeze it into your main Yahoo ID - have no fear! Join us...
 
31Pancho Villa
      ID: 495272016
      Fri, Aug 03, 2007, 18:55 		GO,
How are we arranging payment?
 
32Great One
      ID: 201155199
      Sat, Aug 04, 2007, 00:33 		I was just gonna have everyone mail me a check - unless someone happens to have PayPal... then we could all charge it there or whatever and that person send me a check.

Hopefully later this week we fill the last few spots (we have a few that commited but having signed up yet too) so I want to get that hashed out
before I send out my formal "state of the league" type email to everyone involved.
 
33 Great One
      ID: 201155199
      Sat, Aug 04, 2007, 00:53 		I'd like to welcome Twarpy... since my update above we unfortunately lost Toral but have officially added

Pancho Villa
Twarpy
Tree
Barilko

Pretty good I'd say. Everyone try and get signed up as soon as possible (I know Wiggs is on vacation so I don't expect him til next week)...
NY Studs - did your buddy sign up? if so, which team was he? Just trying to identify everyone so I can set up a league distribution. We are definitely around 12 teams now I believe, so I'd say we are good to go. Still would like to get that to 14 though.

Anyone missing the league info, shoot me an email...
 
34Great One
      ID: 201155199
      Mon, Aug 06, 2007, 19:48 		League-wide email was sent with some updates... let me know if anyone missed it.

Still have have 2 spots open. This means you! I know you are reading this and thinking about it... :)
 
35barilko6
      ID: 5431697
      Mon, Aug 06, 2007, 20:48 		Hey man...

I didn't get it. AOL sometimes has problems sending out things that have multiple addresses...
 
36Twarpy
      ID: 53443916
      Mon, Aug 06, 2007, 23:36 		Yeah I didnt get it either, nothing in the junk folder either.
 
37Doug
      ID: 422281412
      Tue, Aug 07, 2007, 00:58 		I got it.

I have one friend who I've been playing Fantasy with for years (non-guru), but he's got more than enough on his plate already to add another keeper league to the mix.
 
38Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Tue, Aug 07, 2007, 09:02 		So the Canadians didn't get it!?! Typical :)
 
39wiggs
      ID: 41152287
      Tue, Aug 07, 2007, 12:19 		i am signed up. Ready to roll.
 
40Twarpy
      ID: 53443916
      Tue, Aug 07, 2007, 13:14 		GreatOne is there anyway we can paypal these payments? I know that Paypal would take a percentage, but I would cover that, its just a little easier than going to the bank and getting a US money order which I think is the only other option, right Barilko?
 
41barilko6
      ID: 52261810
      Tue, Aug 07, 2007, 13:35 		Yeah...

Any cheques I write will come with a transfer fee. What is the paypal fee?
 
42Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Tue, Aug 07, 2007, 14:01 		Oddly enough, I am going to Niagara falls for the weekend before Labor Day.

Now is there any way to factor that in? Like a Canadian money order of some sort and then I cash it when I get there in the casino or something?
 
43Promize
      ID: 55223275
      Tue, Aug 07, 2007, 19:06 		GO did your league fill up? Sent you an email.
 
44Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Wed, Aug 08, 2007, 09:02 		emailed back with the info... I believe you just got the last spot.

As I mentioned in my email, I have (did have) PayPal but it isn't working right and I don't really know why. Now if somebody who does have it would be goodly enough to accept a few other payments (with fee included of course) and then send me one larger check, it would be greatly appreciated.

I expect to have it all straightened out for future seasons, so its just finding a workaround for right now. Of course a basic check in the mail would work fine too.
 
45JTSERB
      ID: 54756817
      Wed, Aug 08, 2007, 21:28 		I have a friend that will join if we need more players. he is experienced 5 plus years in fantasy and he won last year in our league that we run which is top notch competition.. let me know

JT
 
46Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Thu, Aug 09, 2007, 09:03 		I do think we are all full now (pending Promize) so thats good news... going to upgrade now.
 
47Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Thu, Aug 09, 2007, 09:19 		PV - what team name are you? I am worried I don't see you in there but perhaps I just didn't recognize the name you signed up under.
 
48Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Thu, Aug 09, 2007, 09:32 		Just some notes regarding PLUS that I may or may not have mentioned before. They have really stepped up their game the last year or two.

1. You all have Stat-tracker now for all your teams. No need to buy it. So we all just got 12 bucks back on our investment.
2. You can still have up to 4 "free" teams now that you pulled a free team over to the Plus side.
3. Apparently you can enter keepers AND still do a live draft for the remaining players. This will be great for next year and so on. I love it.
 
49Pancho Villa
      ID: 2565398
      Thu, Aug 09, 2007, 09:36 		Carn E Vores
 
50Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Thu, Aug 09, 2007, 10:31 		I was worried we had 15 teams. Sounds good.

As I noted in the email - Plus league also offers us a choice of a lot more draft times.

I still like the draft day we had - Sept 4th (Tuesday after Labor Day) but I went ahead and bumped from 6:45 to 8:30 which I thought was a better time for most. Comfortably after dinner (for EST) but not too late that we are up all night... if this is a major problem for anyone, let me know.
 
51Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Fri, Aug 10, 2007, 16:22 		Emailed everyone the 4 items up for vote (Payout, IDP, tackles 1.0 vs. 0.5 and a mandatory IDP keeper). Just reply back to me with your choices and I will post the results here (and email all of course)

If you did not recieve the email, please let me know cause I probably have the wrong email address then.
 
52 Pancho Villa
      ID: 495272016
      Fri, Aug 10, 2007, 23:15 		No email, GO.
 
53TacoJohn
      ID: 422551921
      Mon, Aug 20, 2007, 00:21 		Can I get in as an alternate? When are you drafting (sorry if I missed it)?
 
54Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Mon, Aug 20, 2007, 12:07 		Yeah, we are all filled up, but certainly an alternate is never a bad thing to have waiting in the wings, just in case.

Drafting Sept 4th at 8:30 PM.
 
55Great One
      ID: 201155199
      Mon, Sep 03, 2007, 18:26 		Just a reminder that we are ready to roll tomorrow night. Also, as mentioned when we started this league, remember the notables as I put in the proposal in post 1... Notables - IDP, Return yards, 1/2 Point per reception, increased points for long FG's, increased points for points allowed by Team D

For anyone looking for returner information I found this site useful... Top 20 Returners
 
56Barilko6
      ID: 46637248
      Tue, Sep 04, 2007, 10:15 		Hey...

Is there any way (and any desire from managers) to get a draft order established prior to 8:45 tonight? I think it would help with draft planning to know where we are all sitting with regards to draft positioning.

 
57mjd
      Sustainer
      ID: 501381415
      Tue, Sep 04, 2007, 11:22 		I wouldn't mind. I plan to spend some time today on my final prep work for this important initial draft.
 
58Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Tue, Sep 04, 2007, 11:23 		Emailed back as well, but I still want to stick with the order being posted 30 minutes before draft time. So just check in at 8:00 and you'll still have half an hour to think about it. Thats plenty of time. And its 8:30 start, not 8:45... don't miss those first few rounds Barilko! lol...
 
59mjd
      Sustainer
      ID: 501381415
      Tue, Sep 04, 2007, 11:25 		That's fine with me. I don't need too much time. Thanks GO.
 
60Barilko6
      ID: 46637248
      Tue, Sep 04, 2007, 11:52 		8:30? Dang...that is valuable information! haha
 
61wiggs
      ID: 587393111
      Tue, Sep 04, 2007, 15:56 		can i get an updated position list for the league? if you look at settings it isnt showing idps. Also are all the scoring setting correct? Thanks
Wiggs
 
62mjd
      Sustainer
      ID: 501381415
      Tue, Sep 04, 2007, 16:35 		At the bottom of the rankings it just has DBs and DLs, but no LBs.

And these Yahoo rankings must have been made by a yahoo. They're just brutal.
 
63Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Tue, Sep 04, 2007, 16:40 		You may not be seeing LB, but thats because Yahoo sees DL as any LB, DE or DT. Its two spots - a DB and a DL (LB,DE,DT). We'll be keeping 1 IDP each year.

QB
RB
RB
WR/RB
WR
WR
WR/TE
TE
K
DEF
IDP - DB
IDP - LB/DL

And all scoring is the same as proposed in Post #1 except when we bumped tackles from 0.5 to 1.0. There are definitely some differences from the default, like a few extra points for a Team Defense shutout and a big -4 for 35 points or more. I wanted those things to mean something. Also longer kicks are worth an extra point at each breakpoint so a kicker who can boom a long kick is worth a some more.
Half a point for a catch, so its like a modified PPR league. A small bonus for a back that can catch a few balls and for possession WR's.
Just like RIFC we are adding return yards, so bump up the returners listed in my above post some. If you can find a starting DB that returns some kicks, thats something to keep an eye out for.

Passing Yards (30 yards per point)
Passing Touchdowns (4)
Interceptions (-2)
Rushing Yards (10 yards per point)
Rushing Touchdowns (6)
Receptions (.5)
Reception Yards (10 yards per point)
Reception Touchdowns (6)
Return Yards (25 yards per point)
Return Touchdowns (6)
2-Point Conversions (2)
Fumbles Lost (-2)
Offensive Fumble Return TD (6)
Field Goals 0-19 Yards (3)
Field Goals 20-29 Yards (3)
Field Goals 30-39 Yards (4)
Field Goals 40-49 Yards (5)
Field Goals 50+ Yards (6)
Point After Attempt Made (1)
Point After Attempt Missed (-2)
Sack (1)
Interception (2)
Fumble Recovery (2)
Touchdown (6)
Safety (2)
Block Kick (2)
Kickoff and Punt Return Touchdowns (0)
Points Allowed 0 points (12)
Points Allowed 1-6 points (8)
Points Allowed 7-13 points (4)
Points Allowed 14-20 points (2)
Points Allowed 21-27 points (0)
Points Allowed 28-34 points (-1)
Points Allowed 35+ points (-4)

IDP
Tackle Solo (1)
Sack (3)
Interception (4)
Fumble Force (2)
Fumble Recovery (2)
Touchdown (6)
Safety (4)
Pass Defended (1)
Block Kick (2)
 
64Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Tue, Sep 04, 2007, 16:46 		Looks like there generic DL or DB ranks are out of whack. Dan Klecko #1?! lol... I reccomend sorting by 2006 totals to get a better feel for who can do what in those points.
 
65wiggs
      ID: 2542623
      Tue, Sep 04, 2007, 16:48 		glad i asked, the yahoo page shows 1 point per completion.
 
66Great One
      ID: 201155199
      Tue, Sep 04, 2007, 17:59 		I see .5 for a reception. Not sure what we are looking at different.
 
67barilko6
      ID: 8815417
      Tue, Sep 04, 2007, 18:16 		re 62: The rankings are bad? But I have Dan Klecko as my highest rated IDP!
 
68Great One
      ID: 201155199
      Tue, Sep 04, 2007, 22:19 		Thanks everyone for a great draft. We have a great group here and I have a feeling this will be everyone's favorite league from here on out. It's expect it will be highly active trading wise and have showdowns each and every week with all the money on the line.

Due to time constraints, I believe waivers will process tonight with free agents ready to roll tomorrow giving everyone time to work on those final tweaks before Thursday's opener.
 
69Slizz
      ID: 2574307
      Tue, Sep 04, 2007, 22:32 		nothing like drafting a TE who has a groin injury...good job jay!
 
70wiggs
      ID: 2542623
      Tue, Sep 04, 2007, 22:48 		anyone looking to make some trades, i am looking for rb help
 
71Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Wed, Sep 05, 2007, 08:52 		Randy McMicheal or... CHRIS COOLEY available anyone looking for a TE. If I only knew of someone who liked Cooley but had problems at TE... hmm...
 
72Barilko6
      ID: 46637248
      Wed, Sep 05, 2007, 14:11 		I like my team, but admittedly have a few too many project players. (Chris Henry, Micheal Bush, Micheal Turner.)

I think I got good value all around, I have never drafted a WR in the second round, but I like Steve Smith where I got him. I see Turner as a long range keeper should he get out of LT's shadow.

I reached on Cutler, but only seeing as how I already had a QB. I just didn't see anyone else on my board that I had rated as high at the time I picked him.

I got the RB1, QB1, WR1, and Defense that I targeted, which was nice.

I have depth at RB though, and would be willing to move RB depth for TE or WR or other RB help.

I need a WR who doesn't have a bye week in week 7, and a RB who doesn't have a bye week in week 4.


Teams I like (other than my own!)

Great One
NY Studs (Provided White bounces back)
Mangini (Provided Ronnie Brown bounces back)
 
73Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Wed, Sep 05, 2007, 14:53 		I'm looking to move Brandon Jackson for a top WR (age not a concern). So if you are short at RB, and want a good young RB. Shoot me an offer.
 
74Doug
      ID: 441251914
      Wed, Sep 05, 2007, 16:10 		I'd like a good young RB, but if Brandon Jackson's all your offering then no deal. =p

As for Cooley, I'm interested, but not going to overpay either. Where are you looking for help in return?
 
75Slizz
      ID: 2574307
      Wed, Sep 05, 2007, 17:56 		I liked your picks of Cutler and Turner...believe it or not you nabbed em right before I did...

As for Ronnie Brown, I just threw his name and Cedric Benson's in a queue thinking I could just click on one and draft that person, but b/c brown was the higher ranked player and had "i'm away" clicked...I got stuck with Brown. Not all that bad b/c now I have Auburn's BCS Backfield!

We shall see how the season turns itself out though...there are a handful of teams that are good, but its too early to really crown the champ preseason yet.

As for a TE trade...what are you looking for?
 
76Barilko6
      ID: 46637248
      Fri, Sep 07, 2007, 11:33 		Poor, Poor Jason David. At least his family got to see him on a lot of highlight films!!!

Lucky for me Deuce and Bush was pretty much a wash, Mangini, you better hope your guys bring their A game on Sunday!!!
 
77Slizz
      ID: 21733916
      Fri, Sep 07, 2007, 14:29 		I am already ready to throw the white flag this week!

Miami with a bad matchup b/c their offensive line is so rank, Bush did squat, Cadillac with another bad matchup. randy moss most likely will get ZERO PT...so I really need big ben to have the game of his life and maybe i'll survive!

Don't worry, I'll fight to the end though :)
 
78Great One
      ID: 201155199
      Sat, Sep 08, 2007, 10:11 		Taking Calvin Johnson a touch early to make sure I got him, left me drafting some more veteran "reliable" WR's to put around him.

Terry Glenn. Grr.
 
79mjd
      Sustainer
      ID: 501381415
      Sat, Sep 08, 2007, 16:40 		I was pleasantly surprised to find Crayton still available as a FA on Thursday.
 
80Doug
      ID: 441251914
      Sun, Sep 09, 2007, 17:14 		Doh... when we drafted for this league I used the settings shown in the OP... where a solo tackle was worth 0.5 instead of 1. That really threw off my rankings for IDPs. Oh well, nothing to be done about it now... just realized is all. Scoring seemed off to me but now I see why.
 
81barilko6
      ID: 5689916
      Sun, Sep 09, 2007, 17:20 		Man...I was only kidding when I told you to bring your A Game....

Ouch!
 
82barilko6
      ID: 5689916
      Sun, Sep 09, 2007, 17:20 		Man...I was only kidding when I told you to bring your A Game....

Ouch!
 
83Great One
      ID: 201155199
      Sun, Sep 09, 2007, 21:36 		I like how the highest scores so far were thrown up by my brother and Slizz, who were the only non members of the board when this league started. Shows how much we know!

Calvin Johnson looked good. Thought there would be a learning curve - good lord he's a future stud and I'm very happy with him as the 24th pick overall in our draft. Norwood? not working out as well... I need a Warrick Dunn voodoo doll.

Team PacMan won the TNA Tag Team titles tonight from the team of Kurt Angle and Sting. Sweet. Go PacMan!
 
84Slizz
      ID: 21733916
      Mon, Sep 10, 2007, 09:54 		RE: 78

I wanted to pick CJ instead of Javon Walker and was pining about it during the draft with the "WTF's" in the chat room. I didnt realize I had the "I'm Away" checked off so when I added players by yahoo ranking to my queue, it picked the best one instead of the one I wanted too!!! Consider yourself lucky Estok! :) I think it was perfect timing for him and not a tad early considering this is a keeper league. Don't get me wrong, Javon Walker is good...but hes not Calvin Johnson!

RE: 81 & 82

Yield to Randy Moss. I thought for sure I was dead going into the week without LJ Smith and a subpar performance by Reggie Bush but Big Ben & Randy Moss carried me to victory!
 
85barilko6
      ID: 38839117
      Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 08:40 		GO...

How are waivers working for this league?
 
86Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 13:27 		Emailed as well - but waivers start each Sunday at 1 PM and the order will be the reverse of standings and reset each week.

Congrats to Lightning Bolts with the high score for the week (and for the season temporarily). He's already made $20 back and is sitting on another $20 until someone steps up and takes it away with a monster score.

Can't believe I won, when Ed Reed returned that punt I threw my remote lol... but Adrian Wilson turned in a nice game after and Vernon Davis didn't do enough to get NYStuds the win.
 
87wiggs
      ID: 6825712
      Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 13:53 		Defenses killed me this week. I ran into a Minnesota team that scored 30 and I played Dallas and their -1. I lost by 13.
 
88wiggs
      ID: 6825712
      Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 13:55 		GO, I didnt get an email about waivers, but i am still confused. When are we able to pick someone up. I have a couple guys in mind and dont want to lose them.
 
89Barilko6
      ID: 46637248
      Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 14:06 		Yeah, I am still unclear as to the waivers as well. When is the deadline to submit, and who do we submit them to? Or do we claim online?
 
90Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 14:50 		You need to put claims in on guys tonight. If you are just adding a random kicker or something and don't want to waste waiver priority, then wait til they clear overnight at which point all Free Agents will be available (without using waivers).

I just emailed Barilko today, but I also put the details of the waivers in an email right after I emailed the league the results of our voting.
 
91Barilko6
      ID: 46637248
      Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 14:53 		Got it. But I didn't get that second email about the whole waiver process GO.

But I am clear now.
 
92Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 15:00 		Actually, this was in the email with the results of our votes

A couple people have mentioned the waiver process, and I do want to make an executive decision here and go with the following ruling (if anyone has a major problem, shoot me an email with your concerns, I'll look it over and put it to vote if need be). All free agents will be put on waivers every Sunday (1 PM I assume) until Tuesday. That way there is no advantage to sitting at your computer all day long on Sunday and pouncing on free agents when a star player breaks a leg etc. Also... the waiver order each week will be the reverse order of our standings of that week. The theory of this small tweak is competitive balance, giving the teams decimated with injuries etc the first shot at players to hopefully get them out of the cellar and back up the standings with a hot pickup. My hope is that this will keep the rich from getting richer, and everything fair and balanced. I want those teams to keep improving so that even if they can't make the playoffs, they at least crank out a couple high scores later in the season and continue to be good competition to those fighting for playoff spots.
 
93Tree
      ID: 3533298
      Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 15:04 		to clarify - we just put a claim in through Yahoo, right?

the advantage of using the Yahoo Plus is that you can choose a waiver period, so that every player goes on waivers during a pre-determined amount of time.

like, for example, if i want to pick up Jose Reyes off waivers, i just put a claim in for him, and if i've got waiver priority, i get him.

correct?
 
94Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 16:01 		Yes, everything through Yahoo. They handle it all.
 
95Barilko6
      ID: 46637248
      Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 16:13 		Tree....I am guessing Jose Reyes might still be available after all the waiver claims, so you might want to wait on him and not waste your priority.

Doug Flutie on the other hand...
 
96Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 16:34 		The Eagles should hire Jose Reyes to return punts.
 
97wiggs
      ID: 2542623
      Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 16:35 		GO i got it now. Thanks
 
98Great One
      ID: 201155199
      Sun, Sep 16, 2007, 19:29 		Wiggs throwing up a huge week to beat down Slizz... can he hold on for the weekly high score? At first glance I think Doug is the only one that could catch him and thats with only like a defense and a kicker.

Either way someone is taking the season high score this week as well.
 
99Slizz
      ID: 28801218
      Sun, Sep 16, 2007, 23:49 		Well, looks like my team is going to throw up 130-140 again...but at least I got absolutely destroyed unlike the MiTB league GO!
 
100Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Mon, Sep 17, 2007, 10:18 		I just lose every league close, thats more depressing. Rough start to this season.
Lets see some of those LT offers come on in... buy low!
 
101barilko6
      ID: 78381621
      Mon, Sep 17, 2007, 10:24 		I never realized how much this league rewards WRs. It almost makes WRs worth first round attention.
 
102mjd
      Leader
      ID: 501381415
      Mon, Sep 17, 2007, 12:47 		That .5 point per reception is making more of a difference than I thought it might.

Your WR catching 8=10 passes really helps your score. Increased value for certain RBs, too.
 
103Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Tue, Sep 18, 2007, 09:53 		Anyone checked out the Record Book yet? another nice feature of Yahoo PLUS. Its similar to all the work that Ref did for G24 but of course Yahoo handles all the work. Of course the records aren't overly exciting two weeks into our history, but it'll be nice to look at as we click off the years and look back.

Normally leagues with receptions count as 1.0 or PPR as its referred to. To me, thats overkill. I think this is a pretty good compromise. A small bonus to bump up possession guys and a RB who can catch a ball (and/or a 3rd down back).

I can't believe I am 2-0 with how poorly LT has played. And its ironic that we are all talking WR's... (which is good, I hate leagues that are so RB-centric!) is that I really have no superstar WR. And Terry Glenn was supposed to be my #2. Other than Calvin, but he's got some growing pains to go through for sure. Chambers was probably my best pick, they are really getting him the ball.

This team is poised for a second half run with Kevin Jones coming back and hopefully Norwood has taken over by that time. What I was trying to do is tread water til week 6 or so. If I can get there 3-3 or even 4-2 I'd be ecstatic.
 
104Promize
      ID: 55223275
      Tue, Sep 18, 2007, 17:20 		Who I write my check to for worst record? lol This is pathetic... I might start planning for next year.
 
105Twarpy
      ID: 53443916
      Tue, Sep 25, 2007, 15:30 		Wow Promize somehow having a player going on Monday night made you lose the game, if you had benched Brees you win:) Absolutely horrible luck this year for you man.
 
106Promize
      ID: 55223275
      Tue, Sep 25, 2007, 18:32 		Yah, that was nasty huh? up 2 pts, and with Brees horrible performance I basically lose by .3 pts...

Did you see I'm leading the catagory of smallest margin of defeats. 7.73 avg. Worst yet, I have the weakest schedule.

Telling yah, I'm writing the $50.00 penalty check already... leave the name blank LOL

Because i'm in last place though, doesn't mean I want to do silly trades.. I've had a few good and some ridiculious... One I have now isn't bad, just not sure I can justify doing it.


Remind me again, what is our number of keepers? God, its week 4 and already planning out my keepers.
 
107Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Wed, Sep 26, 2007, 12:51 		Holy crap... you lost because of Brees going negative? That really stinks. The next time I see a discussion about benching a monday night guy because he might go negative, I will never say "what are the heck are the chances of that!?! again"

4 Keepers, 1 IDP
 
108wiggs
      ID: 6825712
      Wed, Sep 26, 2007, 12:57 		4 keepers total or 4 keepers and the 5th is idp?
 
109Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Wed, Sep 26, 2007, 12:57 		Promize - don't freak out too much - there are 6 teams that only have 1 more win than you. Its way to early to think you are gonna be stuck in the cellar.

Congrats to Wiggs on his second high score. He currently has earned $60 back (someone needs to go off to take back $20 with a new season high score).

Week 1 = Randy/Lightning Bolts
Week 2 = Wiggs
Week 3 = Wiggs
Season High Score = Wiggs with 205.90
 
110Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Wed, Sep 26, 2007, 12:58 		4 offensive players, 1 IDP
 
111wiggs
      ID: 6825712
      Wed, Sep 26, 2007, 12:58 		ok, thats what i thought. Thanks.
 
112Slizz
      ID: 21733916
      Wed, Sep 26, 2007, 16:06 		Wiggs...how in the hell did you manage to lose week 1? :)
 
113Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Wed, Sep 26, 2007, 16:11 		He was just getting warmed up!
 
114wiggs
      ID: 2542623
      Wed, Sep 26, 2007, 16:26 		i ran into a hotter team. Those Cannons were booming
 
115barilko6
      ID: 42828217
      Wed, Sep 26, 2007, 19:09 		Dang...losing Deuce sucks. Promize, I might contend for that last place spot with you!
 
116Promize
      ID: 55223275
      Wed, Sep 26, 2007, 22:13 		Thing is, my team as a whole isn't all that weak.. Just a bunch of underachievers...

Lee Evans is just killing me...
 
117Promize
      ID: 55223275
      Wed, Sep 26, 2007, 22:20 		Out of curiosity, who is NY Studs? He a board regular?

 
118Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Thu, Sep 27, 2007, 09:12 		Yep.
 
119mjd
      Leader
      ID: 501381415
      Thu, Sep 27, 2007, 12:13 		Got a couple of offers for S. Jackson.

I might be willing to trade him, but not for what's been offered, so far.
 
120Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Thu, Sep 27, 2007, 14:22 		I'd need two keepers to move LT.
A RB and WR combo preferably.
 
121Tree
      ID: 3533298
      Thu, Sep 27, 2007, 16:40 		i'll need two keepers to move Ron Dayne as well.
 
122Promize
      ID: 55223275
      Thu, Sep 27, 2007, 18:31 		Announcing a trade between Wiggs and Myself:

Wiggs gives up:

Tony Romo
Jamal Lewis
Devery Henderson

Promize gives up:

Alex Smith
Travis Henry
Lee Evans
 
123Tree
      ID: 408272719
      Thu, Sep 27, 2007, 20:36 		wow.
 
124wiggs
      ID: 2542623
      Sun, Sep 30, 2007, 17:15 		do special teams tds count against team D?
 
125Great One
      ID: 201155199
      Sun, Sep 30, 2007, 17:19 		I think the team defense = Points Allowed, regardless of how those points get there (special teams, defensive TD's against, and just general points that your defense allows). I definitely didn't adjust anything there, that was the default.

 
126Great One
      ID: 201155199
      Sun, Sep 30, 2007, 17:21 		ok, maybe not... here is what the website says.

In Yahoo! Sports Fantasy Football, scoring for the "Points Allowed" category in leagues using Team Defenses include the following situations:

All TDs scored against the defense.
All FGs scored by the opponent.
All PATs (Extra Points and 2-PT conversions).
Special Teams Scoring (kickoff and punt returns for touchdowns, as well as blocked punts returned for TDs).
All other scoring categories chosen within the league.
Please Note: Points scored against the team's offensive unit (e.g., interception and fumble returns for TDs, FG blocks returned for Touchdowns, and safeties) are not counted in the Points Allowed category.
 
127Great One
      ID: 201155199
      Sun, Sep 30, 2007, 17:22 		I wonder if thats a new thing, cause I remember losing a league when my Team D didn't allow any points... but their QB had a couple picks run back for a TD and they lost 14-0 or something like that.
 
128Slizz
      ID: 498402211
      Mon, Oct 01, 2007, 00:15 		so much for caddy :(

poor guy...career might be over...that knee injury was painful to watch!

BTW - GG GO...you deserved to win
 
129JTSERB
      ID: 2751170
      Mon, Oct 01, 2007, 06:57 		when team scores on defense for a TD against your D you will only be charged for the extra point if it is made.
 
130Great One
      ID: 201155199
      Mon, Oct 01, 2007, 19:01 		Maybe that was it - the shutout points were blown but they never really allowed a score.
 
131Great One
      ID: 201155199
      Mon, Oct 01, 2007, 19:05 		I still scraped by and you had Cadillac go down and no Bush, so I got lucky there.

How about Promize going for his first and also having a tentative grip on high score for the week!
Only one I really noticed was my brother Randall with his boy Randall Moss within 13 points... here comes the money!

Wiggs and Carn E Vores will have their eyes on tonights game too - Wiggs trying to come back with Carson and Ben Watson.
 
132JTSERB
      ID: 2751170
      Tue, Oct 02, 2007, 18:30 		Been lucky so far to be 2-2. Im at the bottom of the league in total points so far.

Who was laughing at me for taking Welker and Hester?

I believe it was Doug... Those are my best players! LOL

Barilko I sent you a trade.
 
133Promize
      ID: 8857295
      Fri, Oct 05, 2007, 16:28 		Guess it was a good time to trade Henry
 
134Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Mon, Oct 08, 2007, 12:07 		MJD is probably in control for high score.. a couple people close. One wild card could be Wiggs who has like 6 people playing tonight (including T.O., Barber, Lee Evans...) he'd need about 80 points from all his guys tonight.

Thats why I love this week to week stuff - MJD has his win wrapped up but he still has $20 on the line and a reason to watch tonight.
 
135mjd
      Leader
      ID: 501381415
      Mon, Oct 08, 2007, 12:55 		Happy to get the W.

I'll definitely be watching tonight.
 
136Promize
      ID: 8857295
      Mon, Oct 08, 2007, 16:50 		I might have a good chance to have back to back wins...

Romo going tonight, need 10pts.
Never know, but I would say my chances are good.
 
137wiggs
      ID: 2542623
      Mon, Oct 08, 2007, 23:56 		Serbs, that was a nail biter. If this holds it has to be the closest game ever.
 
138Promize
      ID: 8857295
      Mon, Oct 08, 2007, 23:59 		Crazy game... 5ints!!! Oh well, was close.
 
139JTSERB
      ID: 2751170
      Wed, Oct 10, 2007, 01:37 		Yea that was a close game there wiggs.. I think they adjusted the points though and you ended winning by like 8 or so. When I first seen that you won by like .10 i was like you gotta be freakin kidding me!
 
140wiggs
      ID: 6825712
      Wed, Oct 10, 2007, 08:33 		yeah, when i posted i was winning by .20 after the barber catch, but i knew there were mistakes because the didnt credit me with the fumbles or the Ware PD, I was just wondering if maybe you had the same deal where they owed you points. Anyways, good game.
 
141Great One
      ID: 201155199
      Wed, Oct 10, 2007, 19:16
 
142Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Tue, Oct 16, 2007, 09:13 		So the only thing I can figure out is that guys on waivers already have different waiver dates assigned and don't get pulled in with all the other free agents into a "frozen" waiver state.

Anyone have any suggestions to fix this? or do we just leave it now that we understand that anyone on waivers prior to the freeze still followed thier own waiver dates? The whole reason I had only a 1 day wait (which is essentially still 2 full days) was because anyone dropped I wanted to clear quicker before they got locked in Sunday at 1 PM.
 
143Tree
      ID: 3533298
      Tue, Oct 16, 2007, 10:45 		So the only thing I can figure out is that guys on waivers already have different waiver dates assigned and don't get pulled in with all the other free agents into a "frozen" waiver state.

exactly. Vernon Davis (and others) were dropped on Saturday the 13th, during the period when you could pick up free agents, as our games hadn't started yet.

thusly, the action to pick Davis up was made when it was still possible to do so. while it doesn't process until later, it's the pick up date that counts.

Anyone have any suggestions to fix this? or do we just leave it now that we understand that anyone on waivers prior to the freeze still followed thier own waiver dates?

i don't think there is anything to fix. if you alter it, you're effectively putting players who are dropped on waivers for an even longer period of time.

everyone has an equal opportunity to claim a player on waivers, and it goes in order of priority. there's no disadvantage or advantage to any team acquiring a player via waivers.

 
144Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Tue, Oct 16, 2007, 10:58 		Yeah, after thinking about it, it makes perfect sense. A waiver claim made for a guy who was dropped on Friday for example shouldn't be forced to be locked in until after the Tuesday night waiver processing.

Just want to make everyone aware of this I guess. If you put a claim in on a guy dropped prior to Sunday - that player will follow the normal waiver rules and process on the date in parantheses next to his name. They will not be pulled in with the rest of the players who are frozen at 1 PM Sunday until Tuesday night.
 
145Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Tue, Oct 16, 2007, 11:40 		On a side note, holy crap - I had high score! I was too busy watching the Red Sox that I didn't realize how good a night Norwood had.

Hopefully my RB trio of LT, Kevin Jones and Norwood is poised for a big second half run. I picked those guys thinking long term (as well as Calvin) so we'll see how that goes.

I could still use one more WR though if anyone has an extras and is looking to work on something.
 
146JTSERB
      ID: 2751170
      Thu, Oct 18, 2007, 01:33 		I have Deangelo Williams and Foster on my team Id like to move one of them for a comparable RB in return.. anyone interested?
 
147JTSERB
      ID: 419472323
      Sun, Nov 04, 2007, 21:33 		In light of the Chad Johnson injury today I vote no on the current trade between doug and the bolts. rettible trade if johnson is out for a while
 
148Doug
      ID: 53937413
      Sun, Nov 04, 2007, 21:46 		It REALLY does suck... but honestly the trade was submitted before the injury occurred and should be considered in that light (IMHO). Of course you could say I'm biased as the owner trading him away, but that's my sincere take on it.

I had a similar thing happen to me a couple weeks ago in G24 with Vince Young... traded for him on Sunday AM and then he got injured that day (but fortunately he wasn't out long). I hope the same holds true for Ocho Cinco.
 
149Doug
      ID: 53937413
      Sun, Nov 04, 2007, 21:48 		And on that note, his prognosis does sound reasonably favorable at this point. Just checked Rotowire after making that last post:

Johnson flew home with his teammates Sunday after medical tests showed that he sustained no damage to his neck after being hurt late in Cincinnati's loss to Buffalo, the Associated Press reports.

A team spokesman said Johnson joined the team for its scheduled flight to Cincinnati after having a CT scan (which produced normal results) of his neck. Good news here that Johnson avoided serious injury, but we'll track his Week 10 status in the coming days nonetheless.
 
150wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Sun, Nov 04, 2007, 21:53 		i think the trade needs to go through, it was made before the injury occurred.
 
151wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Sun, Nov 04, 2007, 21:53 		Oh, and I am really going to lose because Jamel fricking Lewis went for 4 TDs
 
152Tree
      ID: 57105248
      Sun, Nov 04, 2007, 22:54 		absolutely the trade has to go through. it was offered and accepted before the injury.
 
153Great One
      ID: 201155199
      Sun, Nov 04, 2007, 23:22 		Yeah it goes through, thats just the breaks sometimes.

I emailed both owners at noon and had I heard back from Doug by 1 PM it would have been pushed through then.

The injury is irrelevant (even though it sucks).
 
154Great One
      ID: 201155199
      Sun, Nov 04, 2007, 23:29 		Quite a shootout for Wiggs and Promize... both squads doubled the scores of the majority of the rest of the league.
 
155wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Sun, Nov 04, 2007, 23:56 		I messed up bad, I had marshall starting until about 15 minutes before game time. I also was going to make a move on winfield, but all I heard was good things about him playing. Either move we have to wait til tomorrow to see what happens.
 
156barilko6
      ID: 15101158
      Mon, Nov 05, 2007, 09:17 		I need a good QB, anyone got one?
 
157Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Mon, Nov 05, 2007, 09:25 		Cleo Lemon for Braylon?! :)

I've been trying to work on some deals, I just can't seem to find much. When I invested my earlier picks on long term guys like Calvin and Norwood, its left me pretty thin this year.

Haven't been able to add much always being at the bottom of the waiver priority after some early lucky wins (though I do think that system is working as intended, just not good for me).
 
158Tree
      ID: 561018518
      Mon, Nov 05, 2007, 22:05 		unbelievable...ugh...
 
159Slizz
      ID: 91039118
      Tue, Nov 06, 2007, 08:09 		tell me about it! I thought for sure I was losing having to cover that much ground last night.
 
160JTSERB
      ID: 2751170
      Thu, Nov 08, 2007, 22:17 		Anyone need a RB? I have Foster and Deangelo both RB from carolina. I want to move one. Id accept any position in return, but would like to do a RB for RB. Send me some offers deadline is close!
 
161JTSERB
      ID: 2751170
      Thu, Nov 08, 2007, 22:19 		Wow, big trade out there between Motor and Stunnas. Its a fair trade not vetoable, but can anyone justifying trading Tomlinson. I dont know if I could
 
162Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Fri, Nov 09, 2007, 08:58 		He IS pretty much untradable I'd say, but I sure do some wacky things! lol..
 
163wiggs
      ID: 6825712
      Fri, Nov 09, 2007, 09:06 		Wait, i posted a comment about that trade, how does it get pushed though so quickly? I think that trade needs to be looked at.
 
164wiggs
      ID: 6825712
      Fri, Nov 09, 2007, 09:06 		This is what i posted in the yahoo thread.


i think this trade could definitely be vetoed. MCMG is getting 3 top of the line guys at their position for 1 great player. I understand Gore is playing worse then expected, but so is LT. Burress and Winslow are both playing the best they ever have.

I am not saying i will veto it, but i think that #1 is giving up on this season and looking towards the future will give GO a huge advantage pushing into the playoffs.
 
166Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Fri, Nov 09, 2007, 09:31 		We can have a league vote if you like, but I don't see any way its going to be vetoed.

I deleted my opinion as to not impact the thread for unbiased opinions I started.
 
167barilko6
      ID: 27105396
      Fri, Nov 09, 2007, 09:33 		I really don't have a problem with the trade, and while everyone has come out and said that GO is getting the best of the deal, I personally would take the LT package, as I don't see Winslow as a keeper.
 
168Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Fri, Nov 09, 2007, 09:38 		Think people are forgetting that Cooley is involved too -- while Kellen has played better than ever to get up to Tier 1 status - Cooley is a certainly a Tier 2 TE.
 
169wiggs
      ID: 6825712
      Fri, Nov 09, 2007, 09:43 		I see Cooley is involved, but he is 30+ points worse then Winslow- that comes out to about4 points a game. That is a pretty significant difference imo.

I Also dont see winslow as a keeper, but i do see him as a nice upgrade over cooley, who is also not a keeper.

Also winslow might have been a keeper on #1s team.
 
170Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Fri, Nov 09, 2007, 09:55 		Well the simple math is that LT is worth 2 keepers... thats Gore/Plaxico. Now if he had to throw in the Kellen>Cooley upgrade to get the deal done, thats what ya gotta do to get the player you want.

Like JTSERB said, he couldn't justify trading LT - even for all of that. I'm pretty sure thats popular sentiment. Frankly, I had a bit of remorse for parting with him myself. I wouldn't care one bit if everyone voted it down or something and I got LT back... but its not gonna happen.

1. both teams improved themselves,
2. no collusion

Thats Tree and Mike D's world famous "The Checklist" for trade review.
 
171wiggs
      ID: 6825712
      Fri, Nov 09, 2007, 09:58 		I totally agree this is not collusion.

 
172barilko6
      ID: 5431697
      Sat, Nov 10, 2007, 08:18 		Hey guys...sorry I didn't get to the trade offers sooner yesterday, I was out of office all day until now.

Just sent back some counters.
 
173Tree
      ID: 35108118
      Sun, Nov 11, 2007, 13:06 		ugh. didn't get home in time from doing laundry to get Selvin Young. hopefully, StL defense will allow Lance Moore to score 3000 touchdowns...
 
174Tree
      ID: 221028125
      Mon, Nov 12, 2007, 06:30 		top 4 teams in the league may very well lose this week - could have a total log jam with SEVEN teams tied for first with a 6-4 record, and a few more right behind them.

WOW!
 
175Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Mon, Nov 12, 2007, 08:39 		Now thats some competitive balance!
 
176Twarpy
      Leader
      ID: 386242821
      Mon, Nov 12, 2007, 11:58 		Very competitive league, each week even though my record is only 3-6 I have felt I have between a 40%-60% to win.

It definately looks like to make the playoffs you are going to need an 8-5 record at least.

Just a quick clarification for us teams battling at the bottom, we are not going to have a consolation tournament I assume to figure out seeding. I know Yahoo does that sometimes but it didn't look like GO set it up like that. Also for tiebreakers at the end of the season, I know Yahoo uses most pts I assume that is the first tiebreaker regardless of H2H?
 
177wiggs
      ID: 6825712
      Mon, Nov 12, 2007, 12:02 		Twarpy,
I believe you are right. Tie breaker seems to be total points.
 
178Tree
      ID: 3533298
      Mon, Nov 12, 2007, 12:13 		weird scoring stuff.

StatTracker has me with 106.09 points, while the scoring on Yahoo's lead page has me with 100.09. the difference appears to be with DeAngelo Hall.
 
179Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Mon, Nov 12, 2007, 12:21 		There does not appear to be a consolation tourney of any sort. Though I don't recall editing that or it even being offered.
Regardless - the penalty will be last place for the 13 week regular season anyway.

And yeah, it looks like tiebreaker for everything is points scored for the season. Which I think is most fair anyhow. i.e. you are tied with someone and you got lucky and played them Week 10 when they had Brady/Moss out or whatever. That would be a crappy way to lose a tiebreaker.
 
180Slizz
      ID: 21733916
      Tue, Nov 13, 2007, 09:54 		Doug & the Seahawks D = 1st place! Imagine if SF actually kicked a FG...6-4 across the board as eluded to by Tree...
 
181Promize
      ID: 8857295
      Wed, Nov 14, 2007, 17:45 		Question...

Why was there a Waiver processed on the 13th?
 
182Great One
      ID: 201155199
      Wed, Nov 14, 2007, 19:43 		re:181 - same situation as discussed in 142-144

Trade Deadline is Friday
Any trades made between now and then I will push through the same night (I'll check each night before going to sleep) as long as both parties agree.
So anyone looking to work on multiple deals here, you definitely have the ability to try and get a few done.
 
183Promize
      ID: 8857295
      Wed, Nov 14, 2007, 20:59 		Thanks, just was curious on that move...
 
184Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Fri, Nov 16, 2007, 15:03 		I am going to try and pump this batch of trades through tonight - around 11 PM - as I am leaving for vacation.

I am going to be out of touch Saturday while I travel, but any trades I see there Sunday morning I will push through so they clear for Sunday's games, so everyone make sure they check their lineups Sunday if they have a trade pending between now and then.
 
185Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Fri, Nov 16, 2007, 15:05 		Now that I think about it, I guess those trades would have to occur in the window after I push that batch through until the overnight processing... so not all that likely. But I guess it could happen as there are a few hours there to work with.
 
186Slizz
      ID: 21733916
      Fri, Nov 16, 2007, 15:36 		I believe cutoff is 3am EST. 12am PST.
 
187Tree
      ID: 31031713
      Sat, Nov 17, 2007, 14:17 		man...i got NO emails on those trades....wow...

and the trade deadline happened last night???

ugh - i was in the midst of negotations back and forth. thought it was on sunday...wtf?
 
188Doug
      ID: 559171521
      Mon, Nov 19, 2007, 14:08 		FWIW, I haven't been getting trade notification emails for this league either. I have received some individual messages from barilko or others, but never the usual "there is a pending trade in your league" type mails. Not that I would have voted to veto any of them anyway, I'm just saying it's strange is all.
 
189Slizz
      ID: 21733916
      Mon, Nov 19, 2007, 14:10 		Doug's WRs are very good.
 
190Promize
      ID: 8857295
      Tue, Nov 27, 2007, 22:23 		LOL as horrid of a start this year was....
I'm mathematically still able to land the #6 spot... All our chances are slim for that final #6 spot because of Lighting Bolts large lead. I'm the closest behind with 76 pts. Of course, I first have to win, and then somehow make up 76 pts...

Of course, any of the 6-6 teams would merely have to win to knock me out... But crazy enough, all the 6-6 teams play other teams that won't be affected in the race.

9 teams playing for that one last playoff spot!

The best news is.... I'm not the one paying the $50.00 fine for being last and actually made a little money this year with a high score week! wooo hooo
 
191mjd
      Leader
      ID: 501381415
      Tue, Nov 27, 2007, 22:39 		My second high score week will take the sting out of the last place fine if I'm the one paying it.
 
192wiggs
      ID: 6825712
      Wed, Nov 28, 2007, 08:34 		mjd, i think you are safe to stay out of last place.
 
193Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Wed, Nov 28, 2007, 09:20 		There are a lot of random times I don't get the trade notifications or rejections etc. Its very odd. And that spreads across all of my Yahoo leagues in basketball too. It seems to be fine in the leagues I commish, but the others are sporadic and random.

I'm loving the balance here, seems like everyone has had a shot all season, even the teams at the very bottom were only a 3 game winning streak from jumping into contention. And it always seems there will be tiebreakers - so that puts a premium on scoring a lot of points through the course of the season. And I think thats a good thing too. Less "luck of the matchups" so to speak.

I was batting around the idea of going to a 8-team playoff next season since we have 14 teams. I would be okay with that except that there is no real reward to finish 1st or 2nd regular season. I love the fact there is a premium on finishing up there to earn that bye week. And with everyone so balanced - the #1 playing the #8 seed really isn't the mismatch it should be. I think that would minimize the value of the regular season some.

Thoughts?
 
194wiggs
      ID: 6825712
      Wed, Nov 28, 2007, 09:33 		GO, I totally agree with you on that. A bye week in a money league is a huge advantage for finishing 1st or 2nd. One league I am in does 7 team play off. 1st seed gets a bye, 2-7 3-6 4-5, but i dont really like that either.
 
195Slizz
      ID: 21733916
      Wed, Nov 28, 2007, 12:04 		I say keep things the way they are. It does give the #1 & #2 the best shot at winning money again in the finals, but at the same time they were the ones with the best preseason foresight to make it to the finals.

Sure I have some interest in this, but at the same time Wiggs is taking the #1 seed. I just dont see, based on his matchup this week, how Wiggs is gonna lose (sorry mjd).

I got the game with Doug which likely will determine 2nd place! Even if I win, I'd have to get 70 more points then Wiggs to stake claim to the 1st place prize! But that 2nd place is huge in terms of a prize payout at the end of the year!

I once participated in a 8 team playoff and ended up getting knocked out by the sub .500 #8 seed after a 12-1 season. Lets just say I wasnt too happy about that.
 
196Slizz
      ID: 21733916
      Wed, Nov 28, 2007, 12:05 		Also, why dont we STRIVE to get 100% participation in votes for matchups for a change. I think it would be cool to see who'se picking who for the playoff matchups and those already in!!!
 
197wiggs
      ID: 6825712
      Wed, Nov 28, 2007, 12:41 		is there a prize for 1st place for regular season>?
 
198Slizz
      ID: 21733916
      Wed, Nov 28, 2007, 13:22 		Yes, $30 or $50 dollars if I am correct!

VOTE VOTE VOTE!
 
199JTSERB
      ID: 481020120
      Wed, Nov 28, 2007, 17:41 		6 teams is perfect I also had 8 before with no bye's and like sliz stated above I was knocked out in the first round by a team that eeked in because the guy he played in the last week never set his lineup. I was very pist. 1,2 with the bye is the best you have to reward the top.
 
200wiggs
      ID: 6825712
      Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 08:46 		slizz, I voted buddy just for you.:)
 
201Slizz
      ID: 21733916
      Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 13:16 		Thank you wiggs!

May your squad be "ballin!" again this sunday too.
 
202wiggs
      ID: 6825712
      Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 14:05 		i need chester taylor to keep his spot, or Henry to come back, or i could be in a bit of trouble come playoffs.
 
203barilko6
      ID: 910392920
      Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 21:39 		If everything falls just right, I can slide up to the 6th position still!!!
 
204Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Fri, Nov 30, 2007, 10:36 		Wiggs had the high score for the season... also, had the "lowest high score" if that makes sense. What the heck happened in W8 to let 135 lead the way?!

High Scores
Week 1 Randy
Week 2 Wiggs 205
Week 3 Wiggs
Week 4 Randy
Week 5 MJD
Week 6 Ryan
Week 7 CarnE
Week 8 Wiggs 135
Week 9 Promize
Week 10 Jay
Week 11 Wiggs
Week 12 MJD
Week 13
Season Wiggs 205
 
205Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Fri, Nov 30, 2007, 10:38 		Lets go people - someone throw up a 206 and make themselves $40! :)
 
206wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Fri, Nov 30, 2007, 14:51 		no, dont do that, I need the money :)
 
207wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Fri, Nov 30, 2007, 14:55 		did week 9 change? I had written down i won that week high. I see he has 4 changed points. Was it done the whole time and i missed it, or did it change?
 
208Slizz
      ID: 21733916
      Fri, Nov 30, 2007, 15:18 		Also count Wiggs 1st place bonus too GO!

MJD threw him a bone by starting Favre.
 
209Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Fri, Nov 30, 2007, 15:25 		looks like Week 9 was the week he had Adrian break the rushing record AND that huge day from Jamal Lewis.

I wasn't aware of any changes to the scores though he won comfortably anyway I thought... anyone else notice?
 
210wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Fri, Nov 30, 2007, 16:04 		i am in idiot. I lost to the guy i played against. I thought i lost to lightning bolts for week high. Sorry
 
211mjd
      Leader
      ID: 501381415
      Fri, Nov 30, 2007, 18:38 		Every time I start Favre, I'm concerned about something happening like last night's nightmare.

Another QB injury pretty much sums my season.
 
212Doug
      ID: 559171521
      Sun, Dec 02, 2007, 15:07 		Hang in there mjd... I need you to beat Wiggs (and me to beat Slizz)... it'll be tough if Fitz is a no-go though.

You can still be the Pitt of Football 101!
 
213mjd
      Leader
      ID: 501381415
      Sun, Dec 02, 2007, 16:03 		No Fitz. Too bad I missed out on Curtis. Didn't play him still hoping that Fitz would be a go.

Hopefully B. Johnson can do something in place of Fitz as plan B.
 
214wiggs
      ID: 51013815
      Sun, Dec 02, 2007, 16:15 		this is making me sick. My team playing like crap and MJD playing lights out. If that isnt bad enough, S jackson just went for a 50 yard td to add insult to injury.
 
215Doug
      ID: 53937413
      Sun, Dec 02, 2007, 21:34 		I am happy to be the LSU of Football 101.
 
216wiggs
      ID: 6825712
      Mon, Dec 03, 2007, 09:27
slizz,
I voted this week,against my better judgement, just because you asked. Now I lost. I have awful luck when i vote for the winners . :)
 
217Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Mon, Dec 03, 2007, 11:39 		Promize spoiled my party. When I said - go win yourself some money back with a high score... I didn't mean against me! :)
 
218Slizz
      ID: 21733916
      Mon, Dec 03, 2007, 12:35 		Wiggs if it makes you feel any better, Doug got lights out play from Nate Burleson & Leon Washington. I mean when they give you damn near 50 points something is wrong.

At least you get the 1st round bye. Now I am stuck fighting to get to face you guys!
 
219Doug
      ID: 53937413
      Mon, Dec 03, 2007, 16:48 		With a 5-point lead I'm going to "take a virtual knee" and bench Moss and the Pats D. I mean, it's theoretically possible that one or both could post negative scores... and I'm nowhere near the high score for the week. I've really enjoyed this league as much/more than almost any of my other leagues... winning the regular season is just a nice bonus.

Finishing the 13-week regular season with 13 out of 14 teams at 5-8 or better is a testament to the quality and parity of teams/managers in this league. I look forward to the playoffs!

One random thought for next year would be to have the bottom 8 teams do a playoff bracket of their own for a nominal $20 prize... *shrug*... not a big deal, just a thought. I always like it when everyone gets at least a little bit of postseason action. :)
 
220Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 09:19 		Rank Team W-L-T Pct Pts Streak Waiver Moves
*1. Doug Day Afternoon 9-4-0 .692 1567.30 W-1 13 24
*2. Wiggs 8-5-0 .615 1782.73 L-1 12 21
*3. Body by Mangini 8-5-0 .615 1717.15 L-1 11 37
*4. Lightning Bolts 7-6-0 .538 1709.74 W-1 10 30
*5. Carn E Vores 7-6-0 .538 1542.09 L-2 9 15
*6. Michigan Kannons 7-6-0 .538 1524.27 L-1 8 36
7. Chicago Serbs 7-6-0 .538 1417.69 W-1 7 16
8. PromizeDawgs 6-7-0 .462 1673.33 W-3 6 13
9. Toronto Orange Crush 6-7-0 .462 1599.21 W-1 5 28
10. The #1 Stunnas 6-7-0 .462 1546.38 W-1 4 18
11. MotorCityMachineGuns 6-7-0 .462 1506.96 L-1 3 32
12. Sweet & Sour Int'l 6-7-0 .462 1492.29 L-1 2 32
13. mjd's shanked punt 5-8-0 .385 1595.08 W-2 1 24
14. NY Studs 3-10-0 .231 1368.41 L-4 14 25
 
221Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 09:22 		On the last day of the season - anyone from 4th->12th had a chance to get in the playoffs.
Thats amazing. I think that speaks positively about the competitive balance.

I'd be all for a "consolation" playoff bracket for a little fun for the losers. Not sure if its even an option though.
 
222mjd
      Leader
      ID: 501381415
      Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 12:04 		Consolation bracket very do-able in Yahoo. We do it in another Yahoo league every year.

Even if it is just for grins.

I just hate not playing a game this week.
 
223Promize
      ID: 8857295
      Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 20:33 		Well I'm glad that I made a little bit of my money back for this league. :) Two top score weeks.

I made a big comeback from what I started with. I believe if AP hadn't gotten hurt, I would be sitting in the playoffs this week.

Anyways, I'm always down for playing more... Count me in on the consolation bracket.
 
224Slizz
      ID: 461110421
      Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 22:17 		I'm all for it. Keeps interest and league posts going...however there is one thing I am not for:

Consolation bracket waiver wire transactions.

Even though my position might take away some objectivitiy in your eyes, I think its unfair to those who were lucky enough to make the playoffs to get cut off in waivers by a guy who is eliminated.

Just my two cents!
 
225mjd
      Leader
      ID: 501381415
      Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 23:30 		I'll second that, Slizz.
 
226Pancho Villa
      ID: 495272016
      Wed, Dec 05, 2007, 08:40 		I notice teams not in the playoffs are making and receiving waiver claims.

Is this allowed?
 
227Slizz
      ID: 21733916
      Wed, Dec 05, 2007, 10:01 		I believe it is Pancho...I have no problems with eliminated squads making FA pickups on guys who are potential "keepers" ONCE they clear waivers. However, until Wednesdays waiver deadline passes, I think only contending playoff teams should be able to make moves. I.E. Money Games.

I dont think we should totally penalize those who are out by locking them out all together, but allow those who are still in it to put themselves in a better position to take the crown.

If a team announces that a guy, who currently is a FA is "starting", say on a Friday afternoon...I think only the playoff teams should be able to go and snatch him up.

There is alot of gray area here...what are your guys thoughts?
 
228Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Wed, Dec 05, 2007, 10:15 		Yahoo leagues allow waiver claims for any team til the last day of the season. Its gotta be everyone or nobody making claims - cause if only the playoff teams do... what if (hypothetical scenario) Favre breaks both his legs and all of a sudden Aaron Rodgers is a keeper type option? only the playoff teams could claim him? Thats not gonna work.

I have no problem with everyone making claims on anyone they want til the end (especially in a keeper league). I was always befuddled why its the opposite in G24. What if Wiggs' kicker breaks a leg tomorrow? he couldn't go pick up a replacement and would be without a kicker for the playoffs? In my opinion, thats ridiculous.
 
229Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Wed, Dec 05, 2007, 10:17 		I am gonna work on a consolation bracket for next year. Even if its not "official" we could post the matchups and their totals on here and maybe make it a $20 total for winning that 8 team loser-bracket.
 
230JTSERB
      ID: 419472323
      Wed, Dec 05, 2007, 10:41 		Everyone from 1-14 can pick up a player anytime, as long as their waiver position allows them to. Now I understand what playoff guys are thinking that someone might cut a deal with a non playoff team to pickup someone so they prevent antoher playoff team from getting that guy, but I dont think we need to worry about that in this league. Everyone seems to be upstanding citizens of the Fantasy community :)
 
231Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Wed, Dec 05, 2007, 10:43 		If someone gets hurt and his backup is getting a spot start - I also don't think you need to worry about a non-playoff team running out and picking that guy up, cause he won't help them next season. Plus if you are out of contention you probably aren't checking your squad much at this point.
 
232Promize
      ID: 8857295
      Wed, Dec 05, 2007, 18:47 		Opps, I made a move.... was I suppose to?
Don't think anyone else is going to make it and thats the only one....

You can change it back if I moved to early.
 
233barilko6
      ID: 1949205
      Wed, Dec 05, 2007, 18:57 		I picked up a couple of young QB's hoping their roles next year give them some value. I didn't drop guys who I thought might help others, instead I dropped guys that I wouldn't have any use for this or next year!
 
234Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Thu, Dec 06, 2007, 09:22 		Promize - anyone can add or drop anyone they want until the last day of the season.
 
235Slizz
      ID: 21733916
      Thu, Dec 06, 2007, 10:48 		Vultures :)
 
236wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Mon, Dec 10, 2007, 00:05 		Bodies,
Not that i want to see you next week, but i am pleased to see you have eliminated Tom Brady from our league.
 
237wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Mon, Dec 10, 2007, 00:08 		is there a week high this week?
 
238slizz@blackberry
      ID: 219562614
      Mon, Dec 10, 2007, 20:08 		And you get me sans reggie bush and jesse chatman too!

Yea tom brady is a pain...now if only randy moss would go down too! :)
 
239Great One
      ID: 201155199
      Mon, Dec 10, 2007, 20:21 		No high scores during the playoffs since not everyone is playing.
 
240slizz@blackberry
      ID: 219562614
      Sun, Dec 16, 2007, 20:24 		Good luck on mnf wiggs...balls for stupidity with the big ben/orton switch.

FYI - You should get an extra 2 pts bc of barbers fumble recovery...
 
241wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Mon, Dec 17, 2007, 17:28 		all i need is 200 yards and 3 tds to have a shot at winning. Lets go chester :)
 
242Slizz
      ID: 211391421
      Mon, Dec 17, 2007, 23:46 		Wiggs...it was a good season. With my injuries, your team was CLEARLY better than mine, and 9x out of 10 would've won this matchup. In all honesty I thought I was gonna get embarassed with all your playmakers.

I just hope my team shows up next week b/c I am going to need at least 140 to beat doug.
 
243wiggs
      ID: 6825712
      Thu, Dec 20, 2007, 09:56 		GO, are we allowed to make off season trades in this league?
 
244Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Thu, Dec 20, 2007, 10:10 		I don't see why not... trade away!
Just document any deals in this thread of course so next summer I can track it all before I enter the keepers on the Yahoo site.
 
245Tree
      ID: 3533298
      Thu, Dec 20, 2007, 11:44 		i should look at my team again, but i'd love to wheel and deal...
 
246barilko6
      ID: 2511532019
      Thu, Dec 20, 2007, 20:55 		I've got an excess number of keepers, and would love to package 2 for 1, or 3 for 2.

Ryan Grant
Steve Smith
Frank Gore
Braylon Edwards
Greg Jennings
Michael Turner

 
247Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Mon, Dec 24, 2007, 09:05 		I'll be working on figuring out everyone's balances probably on Wednesday or Thursday with the holiday and everything else going on. A few people have already requested to just roll over their smaller balances to next season... so when I email out the final tallies, please let me know if you just want to do that instead of me writing out a check for $30 or whatever the case may be.

We still have a champion to crown! Kaeding + Cromartie vs. Slizz -9 points should be interesting tonight.

In my other league last night I cut Mason Crosby thinking the wind would wreak havoc - good call. Except I picked Nugent who missed an XP and gave me a negative! lol...
 
248Slizz
      ID: 21733916
      Mon, Dec 24, 2007, 09:22 		The difference in points b/w Chatman and Booker left on my bench might come back to haunt me!

Either way, karma was on Doug's side...Portis came up huge for him vs the regularly stout Redskin defense.

Thank you all for a successful season and I look forward to competing again next year.
 
249Doug
      ID: 53937413
      Tue, Dec 25, 2007, 01:28 		I enjoyed this league quite a bit and obviously winning the championship is the icing on the cake.

I loved how close the standings were... mid-season at 4-3 I knew I had a shot at it if Andre came back healthy... and in the championship game that Portis trade finally paid off big for he (with both him and Garrard putting up 20+).

Obviously Moss was a huge acquisition as well. Having suffered through 2 years in another dynasty league where I traded away Andre Johnson + Lamont Jordan for him it was nice to finally have him pay dividends for me this year in two leagues.

Merry XMAS and Happy New Year all... look forward to smack-talking with you all again late next summer. ;)
 
250Promize
      ID: 8857295
      Tue, Dec 25, 2007, 09:09 		Well, I had a great time this year even if my team started out weak. Made a good trade for future years to come (ROMO). Have a young RB that looks like he might be a star (AP). Probably in need of a good solid WR though.
Finished the season strong with 3 straight wins... Outscored 3/4 of the league and yet finished in 8th! Crazy.

Also made some of my money back and best yet, didn't finish in last place!!!
 
251slizz@blackberry
      ID: 219562614
      Tue, Dec 25, 2007, 09:31 		Congratulations Doug. I can't imagine what the score wouldve been had parker not got injured. :)

My team was so up and down all season...but I got some good building blocks for the future and I always can draft well.

Merry Christmas to all!
 
252barilko6
      ID: 231102517
      Tue, Dec 25, 2007, 18:03 		Promize...I got a boatload of great WR's available!!!
 
253Slizz
      ID: 21733916
      Wed, Dec 26, 2007, 09:12 		Talk to me B! :)
 
254wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Wed, Dec 26, 2007, 15:41 		galloway and marshall are available for trade. Possible TO if the offer is right.
 
255Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Wed, Dec 26, 2007, 16:39 		I've got all the payouts crunched and have emailing everyone individually to discuss arrangements.

As I mentioned above, several people are rolling over smaller balances to next season. I hadn't really thought about it this prior to this season, but in an effort to limit the amount of checks going back and forth, starting this time next year I am only going to send out checks (or collect) for balances 50 and over.

So we have two dates that I will be checking out the finances to see whether checks need to go out or be collected.
1. Day after the season is the payout day
2. The day of the draft will be the deadline for any outstanding balances over 50.

Theory behind all of this is fairly simple. For example if we have someone rolling over $80 towards next year - it would be silly for me to have them send me a check next summer and would defeat the purpose of trying to minimize check traffic.

Of course, exceptions can be made for whatever reason - just need to be requested. I just want to have a general rule of thumb to make this as efficient as possible.
 
256Doug
      ID: 171161322
      Thu, Jan 03, 2008, 07:29 		Sounds like a great plan and thanks for coordinating the league GO.
 
257Great One
      ID: 2241519
      Mon, Jun 23, 2008, 18:07 		Had some questions about offseason trading -- no problem with me. I am all about being as active as possible all year round... those are the managers we want here.
So if you get a deal done, just post it here to document it.

Also, in other good news, Yahoo has added a keeper function to the live draft, so I think we can add keepers and still have a live online draft so I absolutely love the combination of both.
 
258Tree
      ID: 75532317
      Mon, Jun 23, 2008, 18:54 		was i part of this league last year? lol

who can keep track - it's not even the all star break yet!!! oy!
 
259Great One
      ID: 56438112
      Tue, Jun 24, 2008, 09:21 		Yes Tree, you are a part of it.

Hey, did last year's winner (Doug?) get a bobblehead in the mail? Looking back over it, I think you were entitled to a bobblehead or t-shirt.
 
260Tree
      ID: 3533298
      Tue, Jun 24, 2008, 10:41 		remind me. do we have keepers? lol
 
261Great One
      ID: 56438112
      Tue, Jun 24, 2008, 11:18 		Yes sir... keeper league. 4 offense, 1 IDP I believe. Check out your Yahoo Fantasy profile to see who was on your team.
I looked quick and this squad has McNabb, Maroney and Colston if that helps jog your memory.

Also, I know I mentioned it somehwere on the league homepage or email last year, but I just want to confirm here that this will be a straight draft (after keepers). Just like the real NFL, with last place team picking first each round etc.
 
262barilko6
      ID: 34512259
      Wed, Jun 25, 2008, 13:11 		Our first off-season trade:

Slizz gives:

Reggie Wayne
Bernard Berrian
Brandon Jackson
Round 3 Pick
Round 9 Pick


Barilko6 Gives:

Steve Smith
Michael Turner
Brady Quinn
Round 5 Pick
Round 8 Pick

 
263 Slizz
      ID: 21733916
      Wed, Jun 25, 2008, 13:30 		Confirmed! Nice doing business with you...

Also, I have Dominic Rhodes on the block (Obviously, I wont be keeping him unless Addai tears his knee in camp or preseason) for sale to Addai's owner as an preseason insurance policy for a 10th rounder; which is like the 14th round pick in any other draft.

GO - please confirm when we make our keeper declarations. Day before the draft?
 
264Great One
      ID: 56438112
      Wed, Jun 25, 2008, 13:45 		Yeah, I don't see any reason to declare more than a couple days before, just to give me time to get them entered and picks swapped etc. Look at Brady Quinn getting some action!

Also, I'm not 100% sure we can swap picks within the draft utility... hopefully. If not, its just gonna be up to the individuals to make each others picks and communicate -- i.e. Slizz's pick is up in the 5th that he now owns, he just types out "Tim Tebow" in the discussion area and Barilko can select him for him. Then swap them afterwards.

Tree and I did this last year with an in-draft trade in the Elimination Chamber and it was fine... but just a slight caution to everyone to not go nuts trading like 10 of your picks or it could get messy. Again, thats only contingent on that pick swapping not being added, and I believe Yahoo may have finally added it - but until I see it, I won't believe it.
 
265wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Wed, Jun 25, 2008, 13:47 		i have adddai- but 0 interest in Rhodes- my keepers are good enough at this point.

I am looking to trade some talent myself for picks.

On the block

Lee Evans
Joey Galloway
TO
Brandon Marshall
Chester Taylor
 
266Great One
      ID: 56438112
      Thu, Jul 17, 2008, 14:11 		League email going out today...
 
267 Great One
      ID: 2241519
      Sat, Jul 19, 2008, 18:49 		Pancho Villa, got an error email returned from you... shoot me an email if you see this.
 
268 Pancho Villa
      ID: 495272016
      Mon, Jul 21, 2008, 01:21 		GO,
I'm heading out in the morning for a week(Las Vegas!!), so if you don't hear from me for a week, that's why.
 
269Great One
      ID: 56438112
      Mon, Jul 21, 2008, 08:57 		Thats cool, just making sure I got you on my distribution.
 
270wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Tue, Jul 22, 2008, 10:07 		still looking to make a trade- I am looking for picks for any of the following

Lee Evans
Joey Galloway
TO
Brandon Marshall
Chester Taylor

I have offers at this point for TO and Marshall and will probably make a move later this week or next, but i am not real happy with the offers. Make your offers so we can work something out.
 
271 wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Tue, Jul 22, 2008, 10:26 		GO can you send me an email with everyones email addresses please- I seem to have deleted my list.
Thanks
 
272Promize
      ID: 8857295
      Thu, Jul 31, 2008, 20:20 		yes I'm back, thought I responded with a yes... just in the middle of a new move... should be settled down come Monday.
 
273Great One
      ID: 56438112
      Mon, Aug 11, 2008, 09:06 		Everybody is back... finally found a start time for those with all the conflicts.
A bit later than we'd like but with keepers declared shortening the draft and some west coast folks, I think its not too bad.
You can email me the keepers or just post here.

DRAFT = Wed. August 20th, 10 PM EST
KEEPERS DUE = Mon. August 18th, 11:59 EST
4 Offense, 1 IDP
 
274Slizz
      ID: 21733916
      Mon, Aug 11, 2008, 09:21 		Sounds good to me GO!
 
275Great One
      ID: 56438112
      Mon, Aug 11, 2008, 15:53 		I'd like to add that I plan to implement a draft lottery for NEXT season and beyond. Just for the top 3 picks (1st round only) and only involving the the non-playoff teams. I am gonna weight the picks appropriately (pretty much just copy what they do in G20 as I think its a pretty good system).

If anyone is not in favor, email me and we can put it to a 2/3 majority vote, but I don't really see anyone having an issue with it cause its a for the good of the league (and hard to argue any other way) and saves us from the whole voting process. We'll call it executive reccomendation and subsequent implementation...
 
276JTSERB
      ID: 527291320
      Wed, Aug 13, 2008, 22:14 		Hey guys im back up and running on the net again. finally moved in. I have to go to work now, but will get caught up with everything in the morning. Thanks for the patience

JT
 
277JTSERB
      Donor
      ID: 481020120
      Thu, Aug 14, 2008, 09:41 		JT's Preliminary Keepers

Anderson
Harrison
Holt
Welker
Urlacher
 
278wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Thu, Aug 14, 2008, 09:48 		Looking to trade Galloway or Marshall if anyone needs a WR- Price wont be too high
 
279Promize
      ID: 8857295
      Sat, Aug 16, 2008, 08:37 		Only 4 keepers in this league correct?

I should be able to Paypal you entry before Wednesday... Waiting on paycheck from new job. :)
 
280Pancho Villa
      ID: 51546319
      Sat, Aug 16, 2008, 09:26 		GO,
I haven't received an invitation to the league. It's a Yahoo Plus league, correct?
 
281Pancho Villa
      ID: 51546319
      Sat, Aug 16, 2008, 10:04 		GO,
Found the invite in my spam folder. I'm registered and ready to go. Emailed you my keepers.
 
282wiggs
      ID: 356191618
      Sun, Aug 17, 2008, 22:30 		Keepers
TO
Palmer
Barber
Addai

Ware
 
283Slizz
      ID: 517361522
      Sun, Aug 17, 2008, 22:56 		Keepers;

RB - Brian "PPR King" Westbrook
RB - Reggie "I'm only useful in PPR's" Bush
RB - Michael Turner "The Burner"
WR - Steve "Sucka Punch" Smith
DEF - Kirk Morrison (like i have a choice)
 
284Promize
      ID: 8857295
      Mon, Aug 18, 2008, 02:17 		I emailed these long time ago... But figured post them also now.

Tony Romo QB DAL
AP RB MIN
Drew Brees QB NO
Earnest Graham RB TAM
DeMeco Ryan DL HOU
 
285Twarpy
      Leader
      ID: 386242821
      Mon, Aug 18, 2008, 10:00 		Keepers:

LT
Holmes
Williams
Vince Young

Jared Allen
 
286barilko6
      ID: 52612922
      Mon, Aug 18, 2008, 12:35 		Keepers:

Reggie Wayne
Ryan Grant
Braylon Edwards
Frank Gore
Terrence McGee

 
287Great One
      ID: 10658208
      Mon, Aug 18, 2008, 13:19 		Thanks guys, I see everyone has signed up and keep those keepers coming... I have several emails as well and am going to enter them all tomorrow morning.
 
288Tree
      ID: 67581211
      Mon, Aug 18, 2008, 13:29 		i'll get mine in this evening...
 
289mjd
      Leader
      ID: 501381415
      Mon, Aug 18, 2008, 15:06 		mjd keepers

Steven Jackson
Matt Leinart
Larry Fitzgerald
Dallas Clark
Lofa Tatupu
 
290 Great One
      ID: 10658208
      Mon, Aug 18, 2008, 15:13 		Guess I'll post my intentions here...

MJD
Winslow
Calvin Johnson
Plaxico
Patrick Willis

Side note - I really dislike Plaxico as a player, but can't deny his talent and production so I gotta keep the guy... but if anyone wants to swap out a similar level WR/RB shoot me an email.
And if you can keep him, I'll add Eli Manning to the deal. Keep the Super Bowl duo together.
 
291Tree
      ID: 17753195
      Tue, Aug 19, 2008, 07:23 		Marques Colston (NO - WR)
Jason Witten (Dal - TE)
Marshawn Lynch (Buf - RB)
Laurence Maroney (NE - RB)

Darrelle Revis (NYJ - DB)
 
292barilko6
      ID: 52612922
      Tue, Aug 19, 2008, 08:05 		I say because Tree was past the deadline he has to give me Marshawn Lynch. I will give him my 7th round pick in return.
 
293Great One
      ID: 497221412
      Tue, Aug 19, 2008, 09:04 		I have made a commish rule that Tree will give you his best Canadian player. If he doesn't have any, then he can just mail you a Canadian beer.
 
294barilko6
      ID: 36197
      Tue, Aug 19, 2008, 10:33 		Deal.

Mmm...Alexander Keiths

 
295Tree
      ID: 13714198
      Tue, Aug 19, 2008, 10:49 		funny you mentioned Keith's...

one of my favorite Canadian beers is Clancy's Amber Ale.

sadly, you can't get it in the US. heck, from what i understand, you can't get it in much of canada, just New Brunswick, PEI, and Nova Scotia.
 
296Great One
      ID: 10658208
      Tue, Aug 19, 2008, 19:19 		Everybody check Draft Central results section to see if you keepers look right.
 
297barilko6
      ID: 07501920
      Tue, Aug 19, 2008, 22:13 		Looks good for me. Are you also able to enter the draft pick exchange for Slizz and I?
 
298Great One
      ID: 10658208
      Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 00:33 		I think I got the picks in right... doublecheck again. All the rounds indicated above are +5 for the keeper rounds.

So you should have 2 picks in those respective rounds listed above (+5 each).
 
299Great One
      ID: 497221412
      Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 08:57 		Just a reminder that the draft is TONIGHT at 10 PM EST
Good luck to everybody in 2008.
 
300JTSERB
      ID: 547561418
      Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 12:32 		I wont be around for the draft. I am going to have a buddy draft for me. hopefully he follows my directions ;)
 
301Great One
      ID: 497221412
      Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 14:08 		I did that once and the guy drafted a WAY better team than I would have... I sent him 10% of my winnings and Outback gift card! lol...
 
302barilko6
      ID: 417311911
      Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 12:06 		My opinions on the F101 League:

Top 4 Teams After Draft: (In alphabetical order)

Barilko6 (You think I wouldn't include myself?) Solid depth at RB, QB, and Team Def. Great 1-2 punch at WR. Weak at WR depth, and made mistake of having IDP on same bye week, hurting team flexibility.

Promize: Great depth at WR and QB, and if Forte plays regularily, will have good RB depth as well. Hopefully Brandon Jackson will turn out to be a wasted pick!

Slizz Great RB and WR combos. Very deep at the WR, and have a number of nice backup, but potential big time, guys at RB. Hurting at QB though, with only one on the roster, and a bit of a sleeper that may or may not pay off.

Wiggs: Solid throughout with good depth at QB, RB, and WR. 5 200+ point guys from last year look impressive. Needs to get ahead early with Marshall out for 4 weeks, but should have depth to overcome. 2 Rookie WR's isn't ideal, but hopefully they can put together a couple decent games here or there.

Best NCAA Team: Tree. How many rookies can be considered too many?

Worst Pick of the Draft: Daredevils: Kevin Curtis in Round 7

Best Value Pick of Draft: Matt Hassleback, JTSerb, Round 12

Worst Keeper: (Not including IDP) Matt Leinart, MJD


Best pick in Round 7: Tree, Roddy White. I think White is going to be good.

Best pick in Round 8: JTSerb, Nate Burleson

Best pick in Round 9: Barilko, Matt Schaub

Best pick in Round 10: GO, Derrick Mason

Best pick in Round 11: NYStuds, Bret Favre, Promize, Justin Gage

Best pick in Round 12: JTSerb, Matt Hassleback

Best pick in Round 13: Twarpy, James Hardy, Daredevils, Isaac Bruce

Best pick in Round 14: Barilko6, Bryant Johnson

Best pick in Round 15: Tree, Matt Ryan, Promize, Mark Clayton

 
303Great One
      ID: 497221412
      Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 12:53 		Personally, I think I had the best pick EVERY round!!! :)

Especially with Quick Williams in the 14th.
 
304Tree
      ID: 13714198
      Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 12:53 		Best NCAA Team: Tree. How many rookies can be considered too many?

yea, it's really weird. i am definitely not the kind of guy who sets up to snatch all the prospects, but it just kind of fell that way to me.

there is not one rookie on my squad that didn't fit into the position i was looking for at the time, and quite honestly, i'm surprised guys like Jackson, Royal, and especially Ryan were around as long as they were...
 
305Great One
      ID: 497221412
      Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 13:09 		Well it is a keeper league! lol... so rookies should have a bit more value than a guy on his last legs.
 
306JTSERB
      ID: 547561418
      Fri, Aug 22, 2008, 02:02 		I am not considering IDP's, K, D, or Bye Weeks in these rankings.

My Ranking of Teams

Stray Doug

QBAverage QB, I am not a big believer in Garrard. I really think he regresses this season. Aaron Rodgers as a backup. Can he stay healthy? History says no. QB could be a problem for Doug.

RB No handcuffs for either of his 2 top RB in Portis and Parker. Portis should be solid as he always is near the top of the league in touches. Willie Parker came off big time surgery last season. Could be a question mark there. Johnson, Perry, Sproles, and Jackson are very nice backups. Johnson and Perry might start week 1. Sproles is a game changer and a LT injury away from being a good fantasy RB.

WR Strong point of the team here with Randy Moss and Andre Johnson. Hester is a nice pick with us using KR/PR yardage. He might even beat out Lloyd for the #2 WR in Chicago. Vincent Jackson was everybody's sleeper last year. Maybe this year he strikes gold. Henry is useless until week 5.

TE Weak here with Zack Miller and no backup.

Body by Mangini

QB: Weakest position on team no doubt. Campbell is nothing to holler about and he doesn't have a backup QB

RB: Strongest part of team no doubt. PPR kings Westbrook and Bush here. I am not big on Turner, but think he will do decent. Nice handcuff with Norwood. Most of his wins this year should come from these guys. Some good possibilities on the bench with Norwood and Pierre Thomas. Washington also returns kicks.

WR: Not bad here at all. Steve Smith should be fine this year if Delhomme returns to form. Hurts a bit missing the first 2 games though. Dwayne Bowe looks primed to improve on his rookie season. Can Joey Galloway keep it up? I don’t know he is 37 now I believe. The other guys are just fillers.

TE:should get good production from Heath Miller here. No backup TE.

Bon Chon Chickens

QB: I really like Cutler this season. I think Denver is going to have at worst a top 10 passing attack this season. Matt Ryan for insurance. He probably will start, but who knows if he can do anything with a bad Falcons team.

RB: Lynch will be solid. I look for him to improve on his rookie season. Maroney is the wild card here. If he stays healthy and they give him the ball this season I think he will be a top 10 back. Stewart, Slaton, and Hightower all rookies if one of them breaks out Tree will be really solid at RB id say.

WR: Colston and White is a nice combo at WR. Both should have big years. Jackson, Williams and Morgan leave a lot to be desired for backups.

TE: Best TE this year in Witten IMHO. Can't go wrong here at all.

The Tdotters

QB: Good combo in Young and Rivers here. You have to figure one of them have a solid season

RB: Just with Tomlinson makes his RB position strong. Mendenhall is supposed to get goal line carries and might see more time than everyone thinks with Parker coming off of major surgery. I don't see Felix Jones doing much this year. Ray Rice has an outside chance to start if McGahee isn't ready.

WR: Roy Williams and Santonio Holmes is a great duo. Wouldn't be surprised if both of them are in the top 15 WR come seasons end. Really needs them to stay healthy as Rice, Jackson, and Hardy won't do much this season.

TE: Who knows with Vernon Davis. The guy has freakish talent and they say he is going to break out this season, but history shows Mike Martz doesn't use the TE at all. Not sure where Lee fits in with Rodgers.

Daredevils

QB: Kitna and Warner lots of Yards and a lot of INT's. Will see some huge weeks, but also a few negatives. Feast or Famine here.

RB: Very very weak at RB. Mcgahee is his best and he’s questionable. Edges career is winding down and now word is Hightower will be stealing goal line carries. Chris Perry is looking like a possible starter in Cincy so don't know where Watson fits in now. Chris Brown seems lost in Ten. RB position is going to kill this team all season.

WR: Boldin wants a trade, Kevin Curtis is having surgery, Crayton, Curry, Bruce are just not that good.

TE: Strongest point of the team here with Antonio Gates (I think it's bad to have your TE as your best player? :) )

Chicago Serbs

QB: 2 very good options in Derek Anderson and Matt Hasselbeck here. Consider QB a strong point.

RB: Terrible RB's here. Going to kill me all season. Selvin Young hopefully stays starter all season. Maybe Rudi Johnson actually shows something so Perry doesn't start. Fargas is good, but warming the seat for McFadden. Hall is a handcuff for Young which is a plus. Tatum Bell will probably be dropped after week 1. Way too many question marks at RB.

WR: Strongest part of the team no doubt. Harrison, Holt, Welker, Burleson are as solid of 4 WR on a team that we have in this league. Decent backup in Walter. Williams probably won't do anything.

TE: I really think Owen Daniels is going to have a great season. He was pretty good last season and I think will only better.

Promize Dawgs

QB: Romo and Brees. Not that’s a QB combo there. 2 of the top 5 QB's. What more do you want? The only possible problem is starting the wrong guy each week :)

RB: Adrian Peterson is great, Earnest Graham is solid. Forte should get over 300 carries this season. Pretty damn good RB's also.

WR: Need some help here, but that's expected with all the other positions stacked. Has 2 #1 in Berrian and Brown, but they are still iffy. Gage and Clayton could surprise some people.

TE: I see Scheffler as over rated on a lot of boards, but there are worse options.

Wiggs

QB: I think Palmer has a great season. If he stutters you could do worse than Eli as a backup. Solid players at the QB position for Wiggins.

RB: Barber and Addai is a great 1,2 punch. Without a doubt the strength of the team IMHO. If AP gets hurt Chester Taylor is an instant stud RB in Minnesota. Good combo is Deuce and Stecker is either Bush gets hurt or McAllister returns to form.

WR: Owens is the best thing this side of Moss at WR. Marshall has a great year last year and see just as good this season with 2 possibly 3 games suspended this season. Hines Ward isn't what he used to be, but what do you want for your 3rd WR. Walker and Thomas are no names this season.

TE: Heap can't stay healthy. I don't see him doing much. Plan on looking on the waivers for a TE soon. No backup TE.

NY Studs

QB: I am still worried about Manning. It's possible this injury was worse than expected just like Harrison last year. With that said I would be surprised with 4000 yards and 30 TDs. If he is hurt Favre should be a good enough backup.

RB: I don't really like the combo of RB here. Jacobs can't stay healthy and Giants love giving everyone the rock. Thomas Jones might improve on last season because of Favre, but wouldn't expect great numbers. McFadden is the key here. Oakland loves to run the ball, but all depends on how fast they throw him into the mix. Michael Bush and Kolby Smith for insurance purposes.

WR: I like Houzmanwhatever. That's and easy one. I hate Lee Evans. His end year stats will be fine, but it will be because he has 2 games with 200 yards and 3 tds. He just isn't consistent enough. Agon stock is down with Harrison back. I don't see anything from Meacham.

TE: Watson and Smith are ok. Maybe catch a few nice starts from them throughout the year.

Off In the Woods

QB: I don't care for Bulger. I don't think he has it anymore. I like Schaub. I think he has a solid season and will be starting for you most of the year.

RB: Frank Gore should have a great season if healthy. Martz loves to throw to the back so that will be key in the PPR. Count me in the he won't be that good without Favre camp for Ryan Grant. I am really high on Jamal Lewis. He should put up great numbers. Ricky Williams might turn on to be a steal if Brown isn't healthy. Jacob Hester does nothing as the 3rd back behind Sproles.

WR: 2 top 5 WR in Edwards and Wayne. Very very solid. Stallworth will do nothing, but disappoint. Same with Johnson.

TE: Crumpler might be a solid pickup. He as damn good in ATL with a running QB. Maybe he does the same with Young. Who knows. No backup TE

MJD

QB: Big Ben had a damn good season last year. All signs point to another solid season, but for some reason I just don't see it. Just one of those feelings. Probably totally wrong. Leinhart, well you better hope Ben stays healthy :)

RB: Thankfully Jackson is playing now because if he didn't you would be in some deep trouble. Taylor, Better, Dunn just make me Yawn.

WR: Fitzgerald is awesome. Who knows if you will get good or bad Santana Moss this season. I don't see much out of Hackett or Bennett. Branch could help you in the later part of the season.

TE: I say Clark has 2nd best season for TE this year behind Witten. Very Solid. No Backup TE

Michigan Kannons

QB: One Word: Brady

RB: Lendale? Rhodes? Foster? Kevin Jones? umm next position please you’re in trouble here.

WR: Driver and Jennings combo without Favre. Stock Down. I like Cotchery a lot should have a big season. McDonald could be a great pickup if one of the big 2 gets hurt in DET.

TE: Cooley is a top TE. Solid here.

Lightning Bolts

QB: Delhomme, Pennington, Russell a 3 headed monster. Not a good one either. Might want to look for some help in the trade market.

RB: Ronnie Brown if healthy well we all see what he did last season. Hurts not handcuffing with Ricky though. I say Larry Johnson is a top 5 back this year. He looks healthy and ready for 400 carries. I really like Kevin Smith. I think he is a very good RB. Problem is he playing with DET. At least Martz isn't there anymore. Maybe they will try to run the ball. Ahman Green could start just probably won't do anything. Deangelo Williams is frustrating. The guy has talent, but hasn't put it all together yet. I don't think is the year he figures it out either.

WR: Ocho Cinco should be fine. Gin JR will be great in this league with return yardage. Backups leave a lot to be desired. Maybe Gaffney is Brady new favorite target this season.

TE: Tony G and Shockey. Looks very nice. I'm guessing starting both of them each week.

GO's Beer Money

QB: Mcnabb could have a top 5 year this season. Then again he could get hurt. Garcia is a capable backup.

RB: Mac Jones Drew is pretty stable. Julius Jones sucks, but you did a good job in getting Morris for a handcuff. Bradshaw might see 100 carries this year. will he do anything with them? I say yes.

WR: Burress is a top notch option. Calvin Johnson should only get better. Cribs will put up great return yards, but will he catch more than 10 balls this year? I don't like Mason much. Coles could be a monster if healthy and Favre trusts him.

TE: Winslow is a great option. High powered offense, freakish talent? If healthy what more do you want?

MY PREDICTED FINAL STANDINGS



1.Wiggs
2.Promize Dawgs
3.Off In the Woods
4.Chicago Serbs
5.The Tdotters
6.GO's Beer Money
7.Stray Doug
8.Body by Mangini
9.NY Studs
10.Lightning Bolts
11.Bon Chon Chickens
12.Daredevils
13.MJD
14.Michigan Kannons

Championship: Promize
 
307barilko6
      ID: 387192122
      Fri, Aug 22, 2008, 15:17 		Yeah, the only thing I really like about Bulger is his playoff schedule. Providing he is still healthy at that point!
 
308JTSERB
      ID: 547561418
      Fri, Aug 22, 2008, 23:25 		Long ass posts and no comments or rebutal. Pfff dead league already? :)
 
309wiggs
      ID: 356191618
      Fri, Aug 22, 2008, 23:38 		I would say you hit the nail right on the head for my team.
 
310Great One
      ID: 10658208
      Sat, Aug 23, 2008, 20:56 		I need to see a fly pattern and somebody get jacked up when it counts before I start thinking about football any deeper...
 
311Promize
      ID: 8857295
      Sun, Aug 24, 2008, 12:36 		LOL

Although I like everyones predictions... I don't want to jinx you all.. :)
 
312Slizz
      ID: 21733916
      Mon, Aug 25, 2008, 08:43 		JT - Thanks for the in depth analysis. I agree to disagree with your final standings :)

I think Jason Campbell has looked phenemonal in preseason and as long as I can get that backup QB I'll be fine. A good portion of my season is going to depend on Joey Galloway's health.

Wiggs got the absolute steal of the draft in Brandon Marshall. It is now looking like a 1 game suspension rather than 4. Good calculated risk.

I really like the power rankings though and I am going to make an effort to post a ESPN or Fox style power rankings each week!
 
313Pancho Villa
      ID: 51546319
      Mon, Aug 25, 2008, 11:36 		I knew I was in trouble when I scanned last year's team for keepers. How was I able to place as high as I did in the league, resulting in a 10th place draft position, I wondered.

With 4 weak keepers, there was no room for mistakes in the draft. Unfortunately, the Curtis injury escaped me and put me further behind the 8 ball.

This year will be a struggle. It does look like Chris Brown will have a good shot at starting for the Texans, Warner for the Cards, and Curtis could return as early as game 5. Football is a weird game, as just about every team, regardless of pre-season strength, is only a few injuries away from being an also ran.
 
314Slizz
      ID: 21733916
      Tue, Aug 26, 2008, 08:55 		1st trade of the year!

Body By Mangini
Trent Edwards
2009 15th round pick

-for-

Michigan Kannons
Tarvaris Jackson
2009 18th round pick (or w/e is his last pick)
 
315JTSERB
      Donor
      ID: 481020120
      Tue, Sep 02, 2008, 15:32 		2nd Trade of the Year!

JTSERB SENDS

Selvin Young
Nate Burleson

Lightning Bolts Sends

Larry Johnson
Deangelo Williams
 
316 Great One
      ID: 497221412
      Tue, Sep 02, 2008, 15:55 		I would probably move Kellen Winslow if I could get a decent starting RB in return... anyone wants to explore, let me know.
 
317Pancho Villa
      ID: 51546319
      Sat, Sep 06, 2008, 09:14 		Reviewed posts #92-94 in this thread as per waiver claims.

Post #94 says Yahoo handles it all. Therefore, when I claimed Randle El, it should not have allowed me to pick him up immediately, rather he should have gone through the waiver process, and Wednesday find out if my waiver position allowed me to add him.

GO has the same situation with Derrick Ward I believe.

I don't know if the settings didn't allow for the Thursday game, but I think GO and I have to drop these players and attempt to regain them through the normal Sun-Tues waiver process.

Correct?
 
318Great One
      ID: 12858611
      Sat, Sep 06, 2008, 12:58 		The rules simply state that all Free Agents are put on waivers at 12:55 EST on Sunday. So if we don't want these early games to be exempt from that, we would need to manually monitor that I guess.

Is that what we want to do? Get a few points of view here and then we'll have a vote.

 
319mjd
      Leader
      ID: 501381415
      Sat, Sep 06, 2008, 13:44 		Sounds like what was discussed in 92-94 did not take in to account early games.

Maybe something like all players freeze 5 minutes before their scheduled game time.

Players with later games could still be picked up until 5 minutes before their scheduled game time.

Frozen players are not released until the weekly waver process is run.

Or something along those lines.
 
320wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Sat, Sep 06, 2008, 13:44 		I just think the wording should be any player who plays before sunday should be locked 5 minutes before their game. For example when the Saturday games start they should lock on Saturday. This will eliminate a major injury to a star and their back up getting picked up immediately. Part of the reason i love this league is because it is a league where you can win just by sitting by the computer when something happens.

Isnt there an option that players go on waivers 5 minutes before THEIR game, so if they play at 400 they can still be picked up during the 1st game, or Sunday or monday night guys can be picked up later?
 
321Slizz
      ID: 517361522
      Sat, Sep 06, 2008, 14:29 		Although I didnt put any claims in, or plan to put claims in for the players that are in question, I agree with Pancho.

I think all guys who have played a game should be subject to the waiver system.

Why should we have this special exception and allow those who get to a PC first to grab a guy ASAP b/c of a Yahoo! loophole?
 
322Great One
      ID: 12858611
      Sat, Sep 06, 2008, 22:24 		Dropping Ward and Randle El from their respective teams... we'll just have to all watch, and not pick up guys who may play in an earlier games. Everyone can pitch in and monitor, cause like mentioned previously - we all have multiple teams and may forget rules so we may even pick up someone by mistake. Kind of silly Yahoo doesn't just lock them in or freeze them out or whatever.
 
323Great One
      ID: 7827815
      Tue, Sep 16, 2008, 09:02 		High scores so far... Slizz in Week 1 ---Wiggs in Week 2 (also high for season of 186)
 
324barilko6
      ID: 4681210
      Tue, Sep 16, 2008, 09:26 		Highest underachieving team: Barilko6, Week 1 and 2
 
325Tree
      ID: 13714198
      Tue, Sep 16, 2008, 09:53 		considering my WR1 is hurt, my WR2 is struggling, and my RB2 is REALLY struggling, im pretty thrilled to be 2-0...
 
326wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Tue, Sep 16, 2008, 10:17 		Tree- you have something special with the cutler royal connection right now. If that keeps up you will be hard to beat this year.
 
327JTSERB
      Donor
      ID: 481020120
      Wed, Sep 17, 2008, 01:01 		God Larry Johnson sucks. He fits right in with my team.
 
328wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Mon, Sep 22, 2008, 10:11 		Tree good win this week. I did the best i could, TO killed me.
 
329Slizz
      ID: 22813187
      Mon, Sep 22, 2008, 13:59 		Thank god Westbrook is only day 2 day...If he went down, so would my season!
 
330Great One
      ID: 78231812
      Mon, Sep 22, 2008, 15:35 		I'm looking to move Plaxico for a decent RB.
 
331Great One
      ID: 12858611
      Wed, Oct 01, 2008, 20:24 		Nice blockbuster trade with Slizz and those guys from Toronto!... just a reminder of the F101 trade routine, I hate trades hanging around and will pump them through the morning after they are accepted as a general rule.

I'll also try and be around on Sundays at noon to check if anything needs to be pushed through. Anything pending at that point is getting sent through unless both guys say its intended to wait for the following week.

Anything you are close to agreeing to closer to the 1 PM freeze, I reccomend getting in touch with me first to make sure I am around to push it through. Slizz, Tree, my brother Randy (Lightning Bolts) and a couple others have my phone number as well. I'm gonna probably email my log-in info to Slizz and say Barilko who I know will be around in the event I am missing in action and they can be backup to pump things through.

 
332Slizz
      ID: 22813187
      Thu, Oct 02, 2008, 17:32 		I'm swinging haymakers here boi!!

anyhow, it looks to be another loss to me as my entire teams production is hedged upon Brian Westbrook's performance. ugh.

 
333Quick Williams
      ID: 58133021
      Sun, Oct 05, 2008, 11:50 		Quick Williams would like to go on record, before today's matchups even start, and congratulate the Toronto CFL Argos on an outstanding win in Week 5.

A new name, The Toronto CFL Argos, a new attitude, one of winning, and a new co-owner, Quick Williams, will ensure that this sad franchise is turned around 360 degrees into a proud, successful fantasy entity.

The start to an amazing recovery as they work in securing a playoff spot.
 
334Slizz
      ID: 22813187
      Mon, Oct 06, 2008, 13:06 		Well my season is over. Losing Westbrook to Broken Ribs is gonna de-rail my season.
 
335barilko6
      ID: 48563014
      Tue, Oct 07, 2008, 13:05 		The Toronto CFL Argos have stepped things up this week, and have begun their long and hard road to the playoffs.

The ship has been wobbly of late, but with a new captain, I see a beautiful future for this upstart Toronto team!
 
336 barilko6
      ID: 48563014
      Wed, Oct 08, 2008, 18:01 		Looking to move Ricky Williams for a WR. If my team is going to change, I have to create an environment of change, and that means out goes the pot.
 
337barilko6
      ID: 48563014
      Tue, Oct 14, 2008, 12:46 		The Toronto CFL Argos are serving notice to the league that they are back, and on fire. After starting the year 0-4, Coach Barilko took to the locker room and fired up the troops with a mean and nasty speech about how much sucktitude existed on the team. Coach pointed out the verbal jabs that were coming from other managers of the league, "It is like watching the Rams vs Bengals!!!" or "Toilet Bowl 101". This really hurt their feelings.

Since then, they are 2-0, with a league high point total in Week 6. The Toronto CFL Argos are still looking to move Ricky Williams for a decent WR, and also would like to say they are excited about making the playoffs.
 
338barilko6
      ID: 48563014
      Tue, Oct 14, 2008, 12:46 		GO...check your email, sent you a question.
 
339Great One
      ID: 2936213
      Tue, Oct 14, 2008, 14:40 		Wasn't Ricky really playing the CFL? talk about art imitating life or whatever.
 
340mjd
      Leader
      ID: 501381415
      Sat, Oct 18, 2008, 14:34 		Now that I've finally traded SJack, he can become the fantasy stud
that he was drafted to be o:)
 
341Great One
      ID: 56911412
      Sat, Oct 18, 2008, 22:47 		MJD traded for MJD? insanity...
 
342barilko6
      ID: 119211911
      Sun, Oct 19, 2008, 13:33 		I am guessing this has happened to others in the last year and a half, but I think its a joke that a blocked punt TD counts against the Team DEF point scoring in a league where special teams is NOT included with DEF point scoring.

Or am I missing something with my post?
 
343barilko6
      ID: 119211911
      Sun, Oct 19, 2008, 14:20 		Dang...there is the second punt TD against the Minny DEf.
 
344Great One
      ID: 56911412
      Sun, Oct 19, 2008, 14:59 		Yeah, thats not really an option to edit unfortunately. I never really cared about it myself cause I see "defending" a punt or kick return as all the same.
FG's are special teams as well, and we don't leave them out of the "points against" equation.

I'm glad at least that Yahoo doesn't count it against you when the other team gets a defensive TD. Only the extra point.

 
345barilko6
      ID: 119211911
      Sun, Oct 19, 2008, 15:04 		But a FG and a punt are entirely different entities. One shows that the defense shut down the other team completely, while the other shows that they only held them to a FG.

"Defending" a punt isn't usually the defense, its the special teams job, and since we aren't counting special teams points FOR the defense, it doesn't make sense to count them against the defense.
 
346Promize
      ID: 24854246
      Tue, Oct 21, 2008, 18:38 		Chalk up a loss for this week... way to many Byes to do anything...

Can't believe I lost by like .50 last week... Half time I sort of dozed off and I was way ahead... stupid cheap touchdowns ruined my defense score.
 
347barilko6
      ID: 48563014
      Tue, Oct 21, 2008, 18:43 		Fellas, Sadly Team Toronto CFL Argos might have to start shaking up the parts.

Looking to trade, thinking that Frank Gore is the only untouchable, but given the right offer he might be made available, but it would have to be huge.

Will trade players for draft picks, or 2 or 3 or 4 of my guys for some super stud keeper prospects.
 
348barilko6
      ID: 58133021
      Thu, Oct 23, 2008, 08:57 		Hang tight kids...edge of your seats....

A trade is done. Watch here for more details.

A couple more trades are getting close too....

The ball is moving!
 
349barilko6
      ID: 58133021
      Thu, Oct 23, 2008, 15:52 		Trade:

Barilko Trades:

Kyle Orton
7th Round Pick


JTSerb Trades:

Matt Hasselback
3rd Round Pick
 
350barilko6
      ID: 58133021
      Thu, Oct 23, 2008, 16:58 		TRADE:

Barilko6 Trades:

Jamal Lewis
5th Round Pick


Daredevils Trade:

TJ Duckett
2nd Round Pick
 
351Tree
      ID: 559491723
      Thu, Oct 23, 2008, 16:59 		Barilko - check your email...discussions need to happen!
 
352Great One
      ID: 298238
      Thu, Oct 23, 2008, 17:01 		Yeah, I'd like to add another scorer as well.

Also may need to move Kellen Winslow, I can't wait around on this guy this season.

 
353barilko6
      ID: 58133021
      Thu, Oct 23, 2008, 17:03 		Tree...replied.

GO, I got Fasano!
 
354Great One
      ID: 298238
      Thu, Oct 23, 2008, 17:08 		I need a good TE, not a Soprano's hitman! :)

Who's got Cooley?

 
355barilko6
      ID: 58133021
      Thu, Oct 23, 2008, 17:08 		Nothing is coolier than having Fasano!
 
356Great One
      ID: 298238
      Thu, Oct 23, 2008, 17:11 		Barilko must have hit up those Canadian casino's this afternoon and had a few too many... except Canadian casino's don't give you free drinks! so I retract that statement.
 
357barilko6
      ID: 58133021
      Thu, Oct 23, 2008, 17:16 		Yeah one of these days I am going to make it to Vegas. *sigh*
 
358wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Sat, Oct 25, 2008, 14:26 		I am hearing Carson Palmer is possibly out for the season, if anyone would like him as a keeper next season send me a message, he can be had for a middle draft pick or a half way decent RB or WR.
 
359Great One
      ID: 56911412
      Sun, Oct 26, 2008, 12:38 		JTSERB -- I emailed you, want to make sure you are around before I pump through Harrison/Duece deal.
 
360wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Sun, Oct 26, 2008, 21:07 		Looks like this season could be over for me, therefore if I lose this week there will be a fire sale on all players not named marion barber, Terrell Owens, Brandon Marshall and Joseph Addai, I will be looking for pick upgrades in return.
 
361JTSERB
      Donor
      ID: 481020120
      Sun, Oct 26, 2008, 23:51 		Hey GO, I never received your email. I don't know about the trade now because of the Deuce possible suspension. If he doesn't get suspended I am fine with it, but if he does it seems pretty lobsided.
 
362Tree
      ID: 559491723
      Sun, Oct 26, 2008, 23:55 		i dont think he's asking whether the deal should go through, but whether he should push it through early...

you cancel that deal now, and it screws with the integrity of the game.

thats a completed trade...
 
363JTSERB
      Donor
      ID: 481020120
      Mon, Oct 27, 2008, 00:02
The deal was wavering on the trade desk for a while well before the announcement of the suspensions. It is my fault for not taking it off. I highly doubt I would trade for a RB that is going to be suspended for 4 weeks with only 8 weeks left.

Once again like I said its my fault for leaving it up there and not double checking. GO wins the spoils of me being dumb.

Process it whatever the normal time frame is GO.
 
364Great One
      ID: 298238
      Mon, Oct 27, 2008, 13:20 		Yeah, I was actually unaware that suspensions were that imminent (are they, won't they appeal for a while if thats the case?). I was away all weekend really, just checking in Saturday morning and Sunday right before kickoff. Wrestling shows Friday (Conn) and Saturday (NJ) and then most of the day in Philly Sunday for The Who and World Series party.

According to the emails, Jtserb offered Friday around 3 PM and I took it the next morning, so not sure when the suspension news came out cause like I said I was traveling from Friday afternoon til early Saturday.

I was more interested in the deal cause I think Deuce's value goes back down when Reggie returns.

 
365barilko6
      ID: 58133021
      Mon, Oct 27, 2008, 13:57 		Yeah, I would say that this is a trade that has to be upheld as well. It was agreed to by each manager.

I must admit though, when I saw it I was wondering why JT wasn't getting compensated with some draft picks!
 
366Great One
      ID: 298238
      Mon, Oct 27, 2008, 15:18 		Duece optimisitic - Yahoo

So if that is right, then he should still be playing for a few weeks minimum which bridges the gap to Reggie's return,
which is where his value takes a hit anyway irregardless of any potential suspension.

 
367Tree
      ID: 559491723
      Mon, Oct 27, 2008, 15:52 		i dont think the value of either player is relevant at this point. the deal was agreed upon by both managers. how can it not go through?
 
368barilko6
      ID: 58133021
      Mon, Oct 27, 2008, 15:54 		Am I missing something? I thought the deal had already gone through, and Serb ain't complaining.

Did it not go through?
 
369Great One
      ID: 298238
      Mon, Oct 27, 2008, 16:01 		It went through, I was just posting a little follow up about how Duece's case has been an ongoing thing for a while now with no definitive end in sight.
 
370barilko6
      ID: 58133021
      Mon, Oct 27, 2008, 16:10 		Ok, I misread post 367 then. I thought there was an objection or something causing it to not go through.
 
371wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Tue, Oct 28, 2008, 08:46 		I will trade Addai, TO or Marshall for a 1st and 3rd round pick if anyone wants to make a move for the title this season.
 
372wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Tue, Oct 28, 2008, 09:33 		The trade Hines Ward for Jamaal Charles also includes his 2nd round pick for my 6th.
 
373Tree
      ID: 219262723
      Tue, Oct 28, 2008, 11:35 		a player out for several games just got traded for Hines Ward?!?!
 
374wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Tue, Oct 28, 2008, 11:40 		the trade included a draft pick.
 
375barilko6
      ID: 48563014
      Tue, Oct 28, 2008, 12:17 		I actually think Wiggs got a steal with this trade, picking up a 2nd rounder for a guy he won't be keeping.

That being said, I am now taking offers for Braylon "He has to come around soon" Edwards.
 
376Slizz
      ID: 33951713
      Tue, Oct 28, 2008, 12:55 		it did?????

$HIT, I didnt see the draft pick otherwise I would've rejected!

f-yea he got a steal...g'dammit.

 
377Slizz
      ID: 33951713
      Tue, Oct 28, 2008, 13:01 		yea i havent been paying any attnetion to much of anything within the past week given the current market and my workload. I just assumed that he was named the starter and he needed a bye week fill-in.

after reviewing the message to my email it didnt state draft picks included in the deal, although i assume that you did mean to put it in there. after reviewing the deal and seeing that charles isn't even going to play, would you do a leon washington for hines ward type deal straight up, or something along those lines?

 
378wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Tue, Oct 28, 2008, 13:01 		it was written in the message- Why would i have done a trade like that? Give up a guy who has scored 100 points for an injured guy? I know I am struggling this season, but I didnt turn into a moron. :)
 
379wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Tue, Oct 28, 2008, 13:04 		there definitely was a message in there, I sent the trade out to about 6 people with the same message on every trade.

I would not do it for anything but a pick.
 
380Slizz
      ID: 33951713
      Tue, Oct 28, 2008, 13:08 		oh no doubt...I just assumed he was a starter with LJ about to get suspended and all. Its been tough doing my homework this year in fantasy football. trust me i know you have a good squad and know what you're doing. Just a victim of bad matchups this year and you should still make the playoffs.

i honestly thought that charles was named the starter with LJ out and you needed a RB replacement when i accepted it before getting started at work.

Reason why i wouldnt include draft picks is that i saw how valuable the first 3 to 4 picks are in a keeper league when i traded for Turner & Smith.

 
381wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Tue, Oct 28, 2008, 13:17 		i emailed you
 
382Great One
      ID: 497221412
      Tue, Oct 28, 2008, 13:49 		here's what I sent wiggs/slizz

I'd say we should just reverse it
we can all agree that Yahoo seems to be spotty when it decides to include messages or not
so if you didn't think there was a pick, no big deal, we blow it up and move on

I tell ya what, i just checked back on my notification and it wasn't in there either.
and honestly - i didn't think anything of it either (thinking there wasn't a pick at first) - cause I know Wiggs had Kolby - so I figured he was selling off an older WR to handcuff Kolby/Jamaal for the rest of the year
i didn't think it was a GOOD move lol... but that was at a quick glance without trying to fully analyze

anyway, I'll blow it up due to poor communication on Yahoo's part
 
383wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Tue, Oct 28, 2008, 13:54 		just curious to everyone else i sent a trade to, did it include a message or not? I just want to know if there was an issue with yahoo on all the trades.
 
384Great One
      ID: 298238
      Tue, Oct 28, 2008, 15:19 		you can send me one now if you want to test it...
 
385JTSERB
      Donor
      ID: 481020120
      Wed, Oct 29, 2008, 02:03 		I never got a message from you wiggs
 
386Great One
      ID: 298238
      Wed, Oct 29, 2008, 13:59 		I'm gonna add 1 flex IDP spot for next season, where in all likelihood we'll all just have another LB. There are easily 10-15 high end LB's sitting on there in free agency, it was way too easy to replace Willis for the bye week which really hurts the value of those spots.

So anyway, that should take care of that.

 
387Great One
      ID: 21014311
      Tue, Nov 04, 2008, 11:02 		Were there any picks involved in the following? got a few people wondering...

DeShaun Jackson
Cedric Benson
for
Anquan Boldin
Patrick Crayton

 
388Tree
      ID: 121035316
      Tue, Nov 04, 2008, 12:27 		no picks involved. i'm not sure why there are any questions.

i was looking to upgrade my WR corp, and i feel Boldin is an upgrade from Jackson.

Daredevils is a team in the playoff hunt, but in desperate need of someone, anyone, in his backfield. He's got an underachieving Jamal Lewis, he's got the "you never know if he's gonna play" Willis McGahee, and he's got the "benched" Edgerrin James.

i offered him Jackson, which is a downgrade from Boldin but still a solid WR1, and Benson who is suddenly showing that actually isn't a bad running back - and, he's a starter.

Crayton was just who i threw into the deal to make it a 2-for-2 deal.



 
389Slizz
      ID: 33951713
      Tue, Nov 04, 2008, 12:51 		good trade tree.

I'm looking to package Leon Washington or Jamaal Charles & a WR (Dwayne Bowe, Antonio Bryant, or Greg Camarillo) for an upgrade @ WR.

Bowe & Bryant are the #1's on their respective teams and Camarillo is the go-to guy in Miami. While he might not get a TD, he will be among the league leaders in receptions!

I'm cool with adding another round, GO. I assume that we will still have a 1 IDP keeper minimum though...

 
390Great One
      ID: 21014311
      Tue, Nov 04, 2008, 13:06 		re:Trade, it all comes down to how good you think Deshaun Jackson is.

Yeah, I just want to add a flex to put some of these top (LB's specifically) to work, so I guess that means a round tacked on.
Still the same 4/1 ratio of offense/IDP keepers.

 
391Great One
      ID: 42102515
      Wed, Nov 05, 2008, 16:06 		Emailed Rand cause I'm guessing he didn't know there were picks in the deal that just went through.

I'm brainstorming some playoff add/drop rules... I don't like the theory of some leagues where no moves can be made (your kicker breaks a leg, you should be able to replace) thinking we simply do a thing where your keeper pool is your still your final roster -- but anyone added after the last week of the regular season cannot be kept. And no moves for teams outside of the 6 that reach the playoffs (and if you can't keep a guy, why would you anyway? so that should take care of itself).

I will just copy the list of all the guys added after whatever date, and go through them before the keepers are set and make sure none are on there.

 
392Great One
      ID: 42102515
      Wed, Nov 05, 2008, 16:08 		Randall's Lightning Bolts did know about the 2nd round pick in the McFadden deal, so we are all good there.

It sucks that Yahoo is so sketchy with trade details that you are never quite sure and have to question everything.

 
393wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Wed, Nov 05, 2008, 22:17 		I will not be trading
Marshall
Addai
TO
Barber
unless there is a pretty decent pick involved. I have been receiving many trade offers for them for like 4 much lower players. Those type of trades do me no good.
 
394Great One
      ID: 42102515
      Fri, Nov 07, 2008, 11:08 		With adding on an IDP flex spot for next year - that makes our supplemental draft an even 14 rounds.
Straight draft with 1st round weighted lottery for non-playoff teams.
Just an FYI for those trying to pinpoint draft pick trades by round.

2009 F101 Draft will be 14 rounds

 
395barilko6
      ID: 48563014
      Fri, Nov 07, 2008, 11:20 		Question...

Can you trade a player that has already played that weekend, provided you don't start the player you receive in return that same weekend?

For example, Can I trade Brady Quinn for another player, provided I don't start that player on Sunday?
 
396Tree
      ID: 121035316
      Fri, Nov 07, 2008, 11:23 		you can't release the player, so i'm thinking it wont let you trade him either...
 
397barilko6
      ID: 48563014
      Fri, Nov 07, 2008, 11:26 		But what if it were a package deal?

6 players involved, and you move half the trade through today and the other parts on Tuesday.

For example:

Dwayne Wade
Lebron James
Kobe Bryant

for

Chris Paul
Chris Bosh
Mark Madsen

Since Lebron played already, the trade would break down like this:

Wade and Bryant
for
Paul and Bosh pushed through on Saturday

and

James (who has already played)
for
Madsen (Who will not be started at all, thus eliminating any chance for an extra player start on Sunday)

Pushed through on Tuesday.
 
399barilko6
      ID: 48563014
      Fri, Nov 07, 2008, 11:55 		GO...check your email quick.
 
400Great One
      ID: 497221412
      Fri, Nov 07, 2008, 11:57 		Trade
GO acquires Ryan Grant and Barilko's 14th Round Pick
Barilko acquires Cadillac Williams and GO's 2nd Round Pick

trade agreed upon, but cannot be proposed and processed til next week due to one player already being frozen.
Trade II
GO acquire Brady Quinn and Barilko's 13th Round Pick
Barilko acquires Sage Rosenfells and GO's 4th Round Pick
 
401barilko6
      ID: 48563014
      Fri, Nov 07, 2008, 12:00 		Confirmed
 
402Slizz
      ID: 33951713
      Fri, Nov 07, 2008, 17:24 		Dude, you're going to have the sickest "post-draft" squad ever.

Seriously.

 
403barilko6
      ID: 58133021
      Sat, Nov 08, 2008, 08:19 		Yeah, I now have 4 higher draft picks added to my draft.

My worry is that I might also have the sickest, in a bad way, "pre-draft" squad ever with my keepers...haha
 
404Promize
      ID: 24854246
      Sat, Nov 08, 2008, 16:39 		Romo still up for sale...
Just Romo.. :)
 
405barilko6
      ID: 58133021
      Sun, Nov 09, 2008, 12:46 		I would be interested in picking up keeper level players who might be injured for the year, looking to next year.
 
406mjd
      Leader
      ID: 501381415
      Sun, Nov 09, 2008, 20:58 		I was under the impression that FA roster changes could be
made 5 minutes before that player's starting game time.

I had LaMarr Woodley listed as questionable and game time
decision. At 2:49PM ET, he was listed inactive by
footballguys.com. I saw it a few minutes later. At that time I
went to the FA list to find a replacement. However all players
were listed as frozen until 11/12. Even if I saw the
inactive posting when it was listed, I would have had 4 minutes
to make a decision.

According to the Yahoo rules " The deadline to complete all
transactions (trades, waiver claims, and free agent claims) for a
given week is 11:59 pm PT every Sunday."

This rule seems a little harsh to me. Anyone else have a
problem with this rule? Are we stuck with it or can it be altered
to freezing every player to 5 minutes before their particular
game starts.

Mostly I'm just surprised that I have not encountered this
situation in almost 2 years of playing in this league.
 
407barilko6
      ID: 58133021
      Sun, Nov 09, 2008, 21:04 		You can add players right up until 1:00 pm EST. I have no problem with that as our time. It does suck for players at the 4:00, 8:00 and Monday timeslots, but I have never had a problem with that before myself.
 
408Great One
      ID: 42102515
      Mon, Nov 10, 2008, 11:11 		It would be nice if it kicked people to waivers at the same time they freeze their games, but it doesn't appear to be an option.

If we want this thing where everyone goes to waivers each Sunday (instead of the default, whoever is sitting at their computer all Sunday gets the hot pickups routine cause everyone is a free agent) then I think this is the only way to do it.

Its listed in my dropdown as a Yes/NO for this question
In addition to regular waivers, place all available players on waivers every Sun - Tue?

 
409barilko6
      ID: 58133021
      Mon, Nov 10, 2008, 12:20 		Doug...did you get my email?
 
410barilko6
      ID: 48563014
      Tue, Nov 11, 2008, 10:54 		Another Trade:

Barilko Trades

Reggie Wayne
Mewelde Moore
Great One's 4th Round Pick


Twarpy Trades

Felix Jones
Santonio Holmes
2nd Round Pick

The Second Round, will from here on be referred to as The Round of the Barilko. (I own 4 picks in round 2)

 
411Twarpy
      Leader
      ID: 386242821
      Tue, Nov 11, 2008, 10:55 		Agreed
 
412Slizz
      ID: 33951713
      Tue, Nov 11, 2008, 11:34 		Thats about as good as a trade as it gets.

2 keepers for a stud and a 1 year rental.

Barilko - how many 2nd round picks do you have now? lol.

 
413barilko6
      ID: 48563014
      Tue, Nov 11, 2008, 11:54 		haha...up to 4 now! But I do have 3 offers out there, and a couple of emails out to the missing in action Doug!
 
414mjd
      Leader
      ID: 501381415
      Wed, Nov 12, 2008, 23:02 		RE:406 and 408

I already belong to one of those free for all leagues and one is
enough. It's fine the way it is as far as I'm concerned. I'll know
better next time or risk a zero for that slot.
 
415barilko6
      ID: 58133021
      Thu, Nov 13, 2008, 08:43 		Trade

Barilko Trades:

Matt Schuab
Tyler Thigpen
Braylon Edwards

Promize Trades:

Tony Romo
Reggie Brown
Mercedes Lewis
 
416 barilko6
      ID: 58133021
      Thu, Nov 13, 2008, 08:52 		If anyone has any interest in Reggie Brown or Mercedes Lewis, send me an email.

That deal was simply about Romo for me.
 
417Slizz
      ID: 33951713
      Thu, Nov 13, 2008, 08:53 		no draftpicks!??!?!? lol.
 
418barilko6
      ID: 58133021
      Thu, Nov 13, 2008, 08:59 		haha...you know I tried my hardest!

Basically it breaks down like this for me: Thigpen and Schaub weren't keepers for me. Schaub might have been if he played the full season. Braylon was my 4th keeper, but I was worried about his drops and about his connection with Quinn. So basically I helped Promize get some depth while securing a better 4th keeper for me for next year.
 
419Great One
      ID: 3110581210
      Thu, Nov 13, 2008, 09:04 		Good trade guys...
 
420Slizz
      ID: 33951713
      Thu, Nov 13, 2008, 12:37 		I'm not gonna be looking forward to playing you next season b6!
 
421barilko6
      ID: 58133021
      Thu, Nov 13, 2008, 12:59 		haha...yeah, I have been active on the trades. I just wish my team had performed to the expectations I had for them at the start of the year.

 
422Promize
      ID: 24854246
      Thu, Nov 13, 2008, 18:43 		Yah, considering I was a favorite going into this year... I was suffering throughout without a decent WR.

I am a little nervous that Winslow will be Quinns favorite target.. but who knows...


This still leaves me with Brees + 3 RBS as keepers next year... or Brees + 2 RBs + Braylon..

So think I'm pretty much set...
 
423Great One
      ID: 810561317
      Thu, Nov 13, 2008, 18:56 		I'll keep pumping trades through today and tomorrow since the deadline is overnight FRI/SAT...

Speaking of Winslow being Quinn's new favorite... I'd trade the both Quinn/Winslow connection off for a RB in the next 24 hours.
Also can work Julius, Harrison into the deal.

 
424Great One
      ID: 3110581210
      Fri, Nov 14, 2008, 10:05 		Ya know, I added Keller but I forgot we have the gentlemens agreement to not add the Thursday guys cause they circumvent the waiver processing.

I'll reverse.

 
425barilko6
      ID: 48563014
      Fri, Nov 14, 2008, 10:37 		I've sent out some offers, heading out within the hour, won't be back at all today before tonight's deadline.

So...if you are looking to make a trade with the CFL Argos, best to send me an email very soon!!!

 
426Tree
      ID: 121035316
      Fri, Nov 14, 2008, 11:01 		what...no offers to me?!?! :o)
 
427barilko6
      ID: 48563014
      Fri, Nov 14, 2008, 11:06 		haha, you don't want to deal picks, which is all that I am looking for!
 
428 Tree
      ID: 121035316
      Fri, Nov 14, 2008, 11:50 		nope. trying to acquire them.

Matt Ryan, emerging stud and future superstar, is on the block.

Tim Hightower, Jonathan Stewart, and Steve Slaton are all great rookie RBs, and they're on the block too.
 
429wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Fri, Nov 14, 2008, 12:06 		I have posted this same thing 3 other times, but i will do it again.
I will not be trading
Marshall
Addai
TO
Barber
unless there is a pretty decent pick involved. I have been receiving many trade offers for them for like 4 much lower players. Those type of trades do me no good.

Todays offers were for 2 underachieving WRs. and a back up RB.

and
a back up rb, 2 below average WR and a defensive player.

This does me absolutely nothing.
 
430Slizz
      ID: 33951713
      Fri, Nov 14, 2008, 12:33 		tell em wiggs!
 
431Great One
      ID: 3110581210
      Fri, Nov 14, 2008, 14:39 		Stephen Jackson is on the block with his injury questions now... so anybody out of the playoffs throw me some offers. Gotta have RB's in it.
 
432Tree
      ID: 121035316
      Fri, Nov 14, 2008, 15:29 		i've got a pair of pretty pink panties i can trade you Wiggs.
 
433Great One
      ID: 3110581210
      Fri, Nov 14, 2008, 15:31 		are they yours?!
 
434wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Fri, Nov 14, 2008, 16:04 		tree, i wish i could tell you how bad these trades are without calling people out on them. Lets just say they are piss poor
 
435Promize
      ID: 24854246
      Fri, Nov 14, 2008, 16:17 		GO counted me out of the playoffs with a 4-5 record :(
I'm one game out of last playoff spot...
Two wins being in fifth...
Three wins and we trading spots...
:)
 
436Slizz
      ID: 4710371415
      Fri, Nov 14, 2008, 16:37 		Tree - Are the pretty pink panties by any chance thongs?
 
437wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Fri, Nov 14, 2008, 16:44 		promize- thanks for that post, i really thought only top 4 made the playoffs, I am still in this as well, and our points are even. should be a nice final run to the playoffs.
 
438Tree
      ID: 121035316
      Fri, Nov 14, 2008, 17:31 		Tree - Are the pretty pink panties by any chance thongs?

if i steal my girlfriend's pair, then yea...
 
439Slizz
      ID: 551055922
      Fri, Nov 14, 2008, 19:03 		ha! well wiggs can have em than.
 
440Great One
      ID: 4310251715
      Tue, Nov 18, 2008, 09:06 		13 of the 14 teams can still make the playoffs... what a league!
 
441barilko6
      ID: 48563014
      Tue, Nov 18, 2008, 09:21 		It figures...

After weeks of frustration I finally trade away Braylon Edwards and Ryan Grant and then they put up stats.

 
442wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Tue, Nov 18, 2008, 10:00 		i really needed the win this week, my team scored 133 points and lost, i think this is just not my season.
 
443Slizz
      ID: 4710371415
      Tue, Nov 18, 2008, 10:05 		lol. I wouldn't buy into one week of good performances over a season of "blah". But the only thing that would worry me is that Grant didn't start turning it on until the final games of last season as well.

Brady Quinn looks awful and if the Buffalo secondary didn't have a case of the dropsies, Cleveland would've lost. I am still not buying on Edwards.

Wiggs, I can only imagine your frustration with TO.

 
444wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Tue, Nov 18, 2008, 10:09 		TO and before this week Addai it has been rough.

Palmer was probably the worst keeper ever.
 
445Promize
      ID: 24854246
      Tue, Nov 18, 2008, 18:13 		RE 441:

I blame coaching... :)

RE 442:

Throw in the towel, I sense your frustration and to relieve that frustration the best thing to do is to look at next year. :)
 
446Doug
      ID: 561026194
      Wed, Nov 19, 2008, 05:42 		b6, where were you sending the emails to?
 
447barilko6
      ID: 48563014
      Wed, Nov 19, 2008, 10:01 		Emails? What emails?
 
448barilko6
      ID: 48563014
      Wed, Nov 19, 2008, 10:04 		Ahh...my post from November 10th...haha

I sent them to whatever email you had linked to yahoo.
 
449barilko6
      ID: 48563014
      Thu, Nov 20, 2008, 12:31 		Traded Picks for 2009 Draft:

Barilko adds:

JTSerb's 3rd Round Pick
Devil's 2nd Round Pick
GO's 2nd Round Pick
Twarpy's 2nd Round Pick

Barilko Subtracts:

His own 5th, 7th, Second Last, Last

Twarpy:

Adds GO's 4th round, loses his own 2nd Round

Great One

Adds Barilko's last and second last picks, subtracts his own 2nd and 4th round picks

JT SERB

Adds Barilko's 7th round pick, loses his own 3rd round pick

Daredevils

Add's Barilko's 5th round pick, loses his own 2nd round pick

NY STUDS and Lightning Bolts

Studs gets Bolts 2nd round pick, Bolts gets Stud's last round pick

Body by Mangini/Kannons

Mangini gets 15th round pick for 18th round pick. (I am guessing that includes the 5 keeper rounds, so 10th for last?)



 
450JTSERB
      Donor
      ID: 481020120
      Thu, Nov 20, 2008, 13:43 		If I win this week maybe I should have sold the house for a playoff run! Is Ricky Williams still available? I will only take him if I also get a Ounce of Hydro :)
 
451Great One
      ID: 4310251715
      Thu, Nov 20, 2008, 14:14 		Thanks Barilko, that saves me a lot of time.

Also, I'll be away the next week, not that there is much for me to do with trade deadline passed. I can check email more or less, so use that if need be.

Also IMPORTANT... here is the way the I want to work the playoffs/keeper situation. The waiver processing that occurs after the last week of the regular season --- Wednesday AM 12/3/08 --- will only be for the 6 teams that make the playoffs. So 1 PM on Sunday 11/30 is the "Keeper Freeze". Whoever is on your team at that point it eligible to be kept next season. Then what I'll do (starting with that waiver processing), I'll print a list out of all transactions, anyone added after that point is not eligible to be kept. And just as important - if you drop somebody, you lose rights to keep them as well (LT breaks a leg, you still need to keep him on your bench... this is to avoid a kicker breaking a leg and you can't replace him, so you can drop him and not have your hands tied). All 6 playoff teams can make moves for the duration of the playoffs, cause even if they lose there are still consolation games with $ on the line.

If anyone has any thoughts or suggestions to the above, let me know, but I think its pretty fair to allow some flexibility in still making moves to improve your team for the current playoffs without the advantage of being able to add a stud RB that comes along that the non-playoff teams would miss out on.

 
452Slizz
      ID: 4710371415
      Mon, Nov 24, 2008, 10:01 		Should've started Camarillo...ugh!

Why do i have to play the 1-10 team when his squad "blowed" up!?!?! Yea i've got an 11 point lead and Pierre Thomas going tonight...but he's got Donald Driver who is gonna put up around 20.

I think thats Fair GO. Playoff teams get first stab at waivers. After that the others can scrounge around for possible keepers for the next year.

 
453Promize
      ID: 24854246
      Tue, Nov 25, 2008, 07:57 		Looks to me we still have 8+ teams fighting for the last two playoff spots...

If Stray Dougs wins, he has #5
then....
If Promize wins, Serb loses, Promize in at #6
If Promize loses, Serb wins, Serb in at #6

If Promize, Serb win and Stray Dougs loses, then each other battle on Most Pts for last two spots.

If Promize loses and Serbs lose, and Wiggs, MJD, Toronto, Daredevils, Tdotters win... we have a 7 way tie for the last playoff spot and pts will send the winner on. (crazy enough, this scenario can actually happen this week with the matchups.)

Anything can happen of course... Here are the standings.

5. Stray Dougs 7-5-0 .583 1478.00
6. Promize Dawgs 6-6-0 .500 1428.94
7. Chicago Serbs 6-6-0 .500 1420.45
8. wiggs 5-7-0 .417 1463.39
9. mjd 5-7-0 .417 1333.55
10. Toronto CFL Argos 5-7-0 .417 1330.73
11. Daredevils 5-7-0 .417 1321.97
12. The Tdotters 5-7-0 .417 1269.99

I think based on pts, it really comes down to Stray Dougs, Promize, Chicago Serbs and Wiggs for th final two playoff spots.

I ran threw all this real quick before work, so hopefully didn't miss a combination of what could happen.
 
454Slizz
      ID: 4710371415
      Tue, Nov 25, 2008, 08:26 		Great analysis Promize! Stray Dougs is in regardless of the outcome. As long as his team gets 100 points, he will win via points tiebreaker (unless somehow you or serbs put up like 170/ea combined with a doug loss).
 
455wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Tue, Nov 25, 2008, 08:37 		Promize and I play each other this week. I think that is the biggest game out there. If I beat him I will have him in tie breaker- then I just need to hope Serbs loses. If Promize beats me and Serbs wins its a points tiebreaker.

Should be an interesting week. Good luck to all.
 
456Slizz
      ID: 4710371415
      Tue, Nov 25, 2008, 09:35 		Wiggs - only bad thing about Yahoo is that it doesn't go by H2H tiebreaker, only points. In your case, it wouldn't matter as you already have him in points.

You just gotta hope for a Serb loss and you're in (assuming you beat Promize). Only bad thing - Serb is going against the CFL Argos. If B6 didn't mortgage this year to dominate next, your odds would be much better. I mean he's starting Jason Hill & Jabar Gaffney!!!

While Tree & I are assured of byes...we are still jockeying for that $20 1st place bounty! lol.

 
457wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Tue, Nov 25, 2008, 10:34 		i didnt even think of that, that does suck for me.
 
458barilko6
      ID: 48563014
      Tue, Nov 25, 2008, 10:47 		Wait a second. Wait one sweet Canadian second. (They are pretty sweet...)

I started Gaffney and Hill last week and proceeded to lay a beatdown on the T-Dotters like peanut butter was going out of style.

I can't believe two managers are writing off the Toronto SUPER CFL Argos already for this weekend.

I just wish I was playing either Wiggs or Slizz this week so that I could post those words on my fictious bulletin board to really rally up the troops for a massive beatdown!

 
459Slizz
      ID: 4710371415
      Tue, Nov 25, 2008, 10:58 		"Wait a second. Wait one sweet Canadian second. (They are pretty sweet...)" LOL!

Gaffney could always get one of those TD's that make you scratch your head...but odds certainly aren't favoring it. I will certainly be scoreboard watching as I am hoping to get the #1 seed to avoid a potential match-up with Doug in the semifinals as my squad is 0-3 lifetime vs him.

 
460wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Tue, Nov 25, 2008, 11:04 		I would never count out the Toronto SUPER anythings :), but i would have guessed you had a better chance before the fire sale :) I dont want anything on your bulletin board.
 
461barilko6
      ID: 48563014
      Tue, Nov 25, 2008, 11:17 		You'll notice that guys that I have traded away, like Orton, Reggie Wayne, Jamal Lewis, Mewelde Moore...they all sucked after I traded them away.

There is so much coaching prowess on the Super CFL Argos bench that players who get traded away seem to drop in talent, save for Braylon and Grant's one good week, and the players that are brought back are instant superstars, see Romo and Holmes.

I feel kind of bad for JTSerb for having to go up against this rag tag wrecking crew of who cares kind of guys that, even though they are a 14 point underdog, will step up and dominate from Romo's first pass on Thursday right up until DeMeco Ryan's last tackle on Sunday.

I might even be in the running for high score this week, my second weekly award of the year.

 
462wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Tue, Nov 25, 2008, 12:07 		i am routing for you my friend.
 
463Tree
      ID: 51011420
      Tue, Nov 25, 2008, 12:14 		There is so much coaching prowess on the Super CFL Argos bench..

so much in fact, the team has is assured of a sub -.500 finish, is ranked 11th out of 14 teams in total points, and has only one player it drafted that has scored over 100 points this season - and that's the team Defense!
 
464barilko6
      ID: 48563014
      Tue, Nov 25, 2008, 13:18 		Hey, I am only commenting on the coaching. The drafting of the general manager definitely left something to be desired.

The general manager was fired mid-season, and we have a new attitude on the Toronto SUPER CFL Argos.

 
465barilko6
      ID: 48563014
      Tue, Nov 25, 2008, 13:25 		WAIT!!!


Jamal Lewis has over 100 points too. Even though he isn't on my roster, he was still drafted.

I don't want to throw the old GM completely under the bus here...
 
466Slizz
      ID: 551055922
      Wed, Nov 26, 2008, 08:39 		!!!! Tree you rat.

The one time I alter my priority thinking I can get both a kicker and Bess, you get him...lol

 
467Tree
      ID: 1310522610
      Wed, Nov 26, 2008, 11:53 		actually, i had a gut feeling you might be going for him. main reason i put in the claim...
 
468JTSERB
      Donor
      ID: 481020120
      Wed, Nov 26, 2008, 16:01 		Im sorry b6, but if you haven't noticed the hottest team in town are the Chicago Serbs. We currently own the longest current win streak at 3 games. We put up our season high points last week. Kyle Orton or not as our Quarterback I see nothing but a win for the Serbs this week.

Suck failure Loser!

:)
 
469barilko6
      ID: 461092615
      Wed, Nov 26, 2008, 16:39 		JT...

Suck failure loser? I don't understand words like failure and loser?!?

So, speaking in a totally different language myself, as they say in the french of Canada:

Le puissant, ou devrait j'indiquer le regard superbe de CFL Argos en avant au défi, et nous serons à notre meilleur jeudi, dimanche, et lundi, et si nous nous avérons justement perdre, l'Arbre signalera ouvertement sur ce forum comme grand JTSerb est vraiment.
 
470tree on the treo
      ID: 361053417
      Wed, Nov 26, 2008, 17:57 		the only thing more annoying then french is french canadian...
 
471barilko6
      ID: 461092615
      Wed, Nov 26, 2008, 17:58 		Luckily I am neither french, nor french Canadian.
 
472Pancho Villa
      ID: 51546319
      Wed, Nov 26, 2008, 21:51 		After trading Boldin for Benson(who immediately tanked), I was fortunate to find my new secret weapon WR - Ashley Lelie. This bold pick should propel me to the playoffs and, most likely, the league championship.

Might as well roll the dice. Other than Warner, my best hope for a TD is DeSean Jackson on an end around.
 
473wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Sun, Nov 30, 2008, 18:34 		Come on Argos- you are putting up a nice battle, finish this off. I sure hope Deangelo williams going off doesnt cost me the play offs.
 
474barilko6
      ID: 4510452922
      Sun, Nov 30, 2008, 18:36 		The Super Argos and the Serbanites match is going to come down to the wiiiiire!
 
475wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Sun, Nov 30, 2008, 18:41 		Gafney long td would be nice :)
 
476Slizz
      ID: 13104129
      Sun, Nov 30, 2008, 19:58 		HOLY CRAP WIGGS! you're like the Kansas City Chiefs from 2005 with the lowest odds and might actually break into the big dance!

CFL Argos are playing that spoiler role.

 
477Slizz
      ID: 13104129
      Sun, Nov 30, 2008, 20:05 		oh crap. I didnt realize he still has Forte & Peterson going still...definitely gonna make this matchup tonight interesting!
 
478wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Sun, Nov 30, 2008, 23:22 		and that field goal will do it, great game promize- good luck in the playoffs my friend.

Argos- hell of an effort my man.
 
479Promize
      ID: 24854246
      Mon, Dec 01, 2008, 07:22 		Wow,

I took off to drive to Atlanta about 7:30 last night and didn't get to watch much of the game... I really thought my chances were done in this league looking at the score going into the matchup...

Didn't think both RB's would have a good game..

Sorry Wiggs, definitely an exciting year... Right down to the last day.
 
480Slizz
      ID: 4710371415
      Mon, Dec 01, 2008, 09:55 		Still not entirely over. Serbs needs a big game from Owen Daniels & Kevin Walter (i.e. 20+ points each) and he is in the last spot.

GG all and best of luck in the playoffs.

 
481Great One
      ID: 4310251715
      Mon, Dec 01, 2008, 12:11 		Serbs needs Walter/Owen to beat KBrown/Demarco... thats step 1.
But even if that is taken care of, then he needs 30 points out of Walter/Owen in order to catch Promize on the tiebreaker.

Its not unrealistic. His best hope is that Jax jumps out big by halftime and Houston is in catchup mode the second half.

 
482wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Mon, Dec 01, 2008, 13:35 		the good news is that i lost this week and that my not making the playoffs is my own fault.

The Romo trade I made last year was my down fall for this season.

Good luck to those in the playoffs.
 
483Promize
      ID: 24854246
      Mon, Dec 01, 2008, 20:21 		Oh hell, didn't even think about Serbs... yah, definitely don't feel comfortable going in to tonights game :(

lol and how I become the vilian

I need some christmas money!
 
484Tree
      ID: 111127119
      Mon, Dec 01, 2008, 20:27 		wow, and barring something insane tonight, i may have won the regular season championship.

and didn't i get my balls busted a bit for drafting so many rookies? heck, with 112 points, Jonathan Stewart is my lowest scoring rookie.

oh, and btw Barilko, he'd be the third highest scorer on your team. ;o)

 
485barilko6
      ID: 58133021
      Mon, Dec 01, 2008, 23:00 		Yeah, but that doesn't include the guys I traded away: Reggie Wayne, Braylon Edwards, Jamal Lewis, Mewelde Moore...meaning he would be 7th! Meh...I am looking towards next year.

And if I remember correctly, I think the only one who busted your balls for the rookies was you! You commented that you had an NCAA team, and that you sure weren't planning for that rookies.

Either way, the rooks panned out for you.


The Super Argos are looking forward to a stronger showing in 2009 without major disappointments like Braylon and Grant dragging down the team! A possible 6-3 end to the season after starting 0-4, and some extra picks offer hope for the future!
 
486barilko6
      ID: 58133021
      Mon, Dec 01, 2008, 23:15 		haha...and I did slag Tree for picking too many rookies, but that was only because I was jealous because I didn't get any myself!
 
487Slizz
      ID: 4710371415
      Thu, Dec 04, 2008, 09:39 		Really no relevance on this league at all, but I know we have a couple of Mounties in this league...

Says Dolphins RB Ricky Williams, ”In general, I just like Canadians. They all seem very nice and honest. In America, I think sometimes you’re frowned at when you try to be an individual and be yourself.”

 
488Tree
      ID: 511113421
      Thu, Dec 04, 2008, 22:14 		it's all about the weed...
 
489barilko6
      ID: 48563014
      Fri, Dec 05, 2008, 09:35 		Yeah, Ricky did an interview and told of how much he really liked Canada.

Canadians are loved around the world for our meek, peace loving, don't care attitude!!!

It is pretty funny that when I work with kids from the US, they tell me that they are always told by their workers in the States to put Canadian flags on their luggage and pretend they are Canadians when travelling abroad!
 
490barilko6
      ID: 58133021
      Mon, Dec 08, 2008, 11:15 		Some good games this weekend! Looking forward to seeing who wins next weekend!

 
491Doug
      ID: 411150811
      Mon, Dec 08, 2008, 13:04 		Can someone post the total payout schedule for this league? I don't see it in the above posts.
 
492barilko6
      ID: 58133021
      Mon, Dec 08, 2008, 13:44 		Doug..its on the actual F101 Yahoo page. (I think) (pretty sure though)
 
493Slizz
      ID: 331128719
      Thu, Dec 11, 2008, 22:33 		gotta love watching pierre thomas blow up on my bench.

I have a feeling this is gonna cost me big time!

 
494Tree
      ID: 441157158
      Mon, Dec 15, 2008, 09:58 		it was an excellent week for my players to ingest serious amounts of "suckalot", while Andre Johnson has the best game of his career.


f*cker.

congrats Doug on the win...
 
495Slizz
      ID: 4710371415
      Mon, Dec 15, 2008, 10:46 		Rematch! Lets hope I can get off the snide vs Doug as i'm 0-3.

Tree - I even went to Bon Chon on 5th & 31st last week in anticipation of a potential finals matchup. Heck of a season though as you've positioned your squad for some long term success.

 
496barilko6
      ID: 58133021
      Mon, Dec 15, 2008, 11:57 		Yeah, it was a good season, but I must admit I am already looking forward to next season.

My primary goal is to add one last keeper, and would be looking to move pick(s) to get that done.

 
497Doug
      ID: 2711141422
      Mon, Dec 15, 2008, 12:28 		Thanks Tree, definitely sucks to end things with your guys not performing up to par.

As for AJ, it's actually not the best fantasy performance of his career, and he's come close to it this earlier this season, but yes... it was in fact the best fantasy output of the year no doubt... good timing on my end.

Very impressive season. Looking ahead... there's no way I can just keep winning against Slizz every time we play, his team is too good. But I'll gladly give him a regular season victory next year if it means I get to add one more to the streak first!
 
498Great One
      ID: 151126410
      Mon, Dec 15, 2008, 16:08 		Slizz needs to relay the story about our (work) "Money in the Bank" league where he beat Lightning Bolts team by .01 points!! last night after Eli's Hail Mary INT.
 
499Great One
      ID: 151126410
      Mon, Dec 15, 2008, 16:12 		Actually, seeing as how this story may just get a bit more publicity from a national magazine, it might deserve its own thread. Instant Classic.
 
500Doug
      ID: 2711141422
      Mon, Dec 15, 2008, 23:58 		Dunno if you're in G24 but I won last week on Monday night game by .02... got ahead with .22 (had Delhomme and Ruud) with less than 4 to play I believe... and knew that Delhomme might get negative yards downing the ball. Sure enough, they get it back with 1:08 to play... did some quick math in my head but it turned out OK... they only had to run 2 plays, and he only got -1 on each (sometimes they take a step back and get -2, etc.)... so that made it a .02 victory.
 
501Slizz
      ID: 4710371415
      Wed, Dec 17, 2008, 10:50 		Yea, i was shocked you were able to pull that off with Vincent Jackson on your bench. But hey, you take a "W" any way you can get it!

The article will be published in Esquire Magazine's sports section Thursday Morning as the drama to advance to the finals by .01 on a last-second Eli Manning INT apparently makes for compelling journalism :)

I will post the link when I read the article tomorrow.

Let me know what you think!

 
502Slizz
      ID: 411441421
      Tue, Dec 23, 2008, 00:04 		Congratulations, Doug!

One of these days i'll beat your squad...maybe next year is the year for me.

 
503Great One
      ID: 151126410
      Tue, Dec 23, 2008, 10:41 		Congrats to Doug... gonna work out all the money sometime this week. I already got about half the league crossed off the list for this season, so thats good.
 
504Great One
      ID: 151126410
      Tue, Dec 23, 2008, 11:51 		Not only are you now 0-4 vs Doug -- but that was 2 years in a row it was the same exact final of Doug beating Slizz. Its like Cowboys vs. Bills or something...

I didn't even realize we had a back to back champ and also a Finals rematch. Good stuff.

 
505Great One
      ID: 151126410
      Tue, Dec 23, 2008, 11:54 		and I am changing the entry fee to a flat 100 bucks... too much math! :) I think we only had the extra in there for kafenatid but now with Yahoo's ability to enter keepers, we are good there.
 
506barilko6
      ID: 48563014
      Tue, Dec 23, 2008, 13:17 		Alright, I will see if I can start a new thread with ideas on how we can kick Doug and Slizz out of this league so that someone else can win it.

I will keep you all posted.
 
507mjd
      Leader
      ID: 501381415
      Tue, Dec 23, 2008, 17:22 		Good job, Doug
 
508Doug
      ID: 491150242
      Wed, Dec 24, 2008, 03:50 		Thanks guys... and lol @ b6... was wondering if that might come up. Last year half my winnings went to a good cause... a girl I was working with had her wallet stolen (she lost a lot more than I gave, but it helped). This year I'm sort of "between jobs" and in the process of moving to DC, so a little extra fundage in the next month or two is a very welcome reward and will go to my own good cause... me! Perhaps such selfishness shall act as a karmic prevention against a 3-peat. :)

Admittedly I definitely had a little bit of luck there at the end this year, which you have to in a league this size and against so many great teams... 3 wins in a row against higher-seeded opponents... phew! And to eek out a 4th win against Slizz by a 2-fantasy-point margin... just incredible. Of course, Aaron Rodgers who helped me win here also was playing on my opponent's squad in the G24 championship, so ended up costing me that one. Can't win 'em all!

12 of the 14 teams were at least 5-8, and the 13th placed team actually had the second-highest reg season point total of all 8 non-playoff teams (just some bad breaks on the weekly matchups). This bodes well for a continued good competitive league next year, look forward to bantering, trading, drafting, and smack-talking with you all next season!
 
509 Slizz
      ID: 221154249
      Wed, Dec 24, 2008, 11:04 		I have some keeper quality players that can be had for a fair offer:

-Brian Westbrook: His ineptitude during the playoffs for the 2nd straight year annoyed me enough to put him on the block.

-Antonio Bryant: When the guy plays, he produces. Get at me with an offer. Chances are I'll take the first one as he won't be a keeper.

-Reggie Bush / Pierre Thomas: One of them has to go...best offer will get one!!!

-Leon Washington: He does it all for the Jets and averaged 13.15 fantasy points/game with his KR/PR and receptions out of the backfield. Great flex option and a case can be made to start each and every game! *Cough* KANNONS *Cough*

-Dwayne Bowe: Aside from the final game in the playoffs and the matchup vs Nmandi...the guy was money whether it was a 3 reception 30 yard game with a TD or his 8 reception 100+ yard games with no TD, he got me points each and every week.

Believe me, you cant go wrong with ANY of these guys on your squad. Shoot me an email and get em while they're hot!

 
510Promize@Parents
      ID: 5711432414
      Wed, Dec 24, 2008, 15:47 		Disappointing year for a team that looked so strong to start the year..
Think I have some good keepers for next year though.. The best thing being young young RB's

The other good news is, most of entry fee is paid for already for next year :)
 
511JTSERB
      Donor
      ID: 481020120
      Thu, Dec 25, 2008, 11:43 		I fortunately have Deangelo Williams in every league I am in. For some reason I always drafted the guy. Question is what do you guys think his value is now? He has to be a top 5 pick next year right?
 
512Doug
      ID: 491150242
      Fri, Dec 26, 2008, 09:04 		I don't think that's a "given", but undoubtedly some would rate him as such. And it will change a lot between now and next year's draft as news happens. People get injured, traded, shoot themselves in the leg, etc. It's not just DeAngelo but what happens with Jonathon Stewart, the O-Line, how the coaches talk and use them in preseason, etc.

RB Fast Willie Parker is likely on the trading block as well, along with Aaron Rodgers at QB and Vincent Jackson at WR.
 
513Great One
      ID: 497221412
      Fri, Dec 26, 2008, 11:37 		just some housekeeping... the following are ineligible to be keepers, I just cut and pasted transactions, so some may be there twice, but we all get the idea. The below were added or dropped during playoffs and now ineligible to be kept.

New England (NE - DEF)
Tennessee (Ten - DEF)
Jason Hanson (Det - K) 
Neil Rackers (Ari - K) 
DeShawn Wynn (GB - RB) 
Brandon Jackson (GB - RB) 
Dan Orlovsky (Det - QB) 
New York (NYG - DEF)
LaMont Jordan (NE - RB) 
Washington (Was - DEF)
New York (NYG - DEF)
Indianapolis (Ind - DEF)
Gibril Wilson (Oak - DB) 
Quentin Jammer (SD - DB) 
Dallas (Dal - DEF)
Cleveland (Cle - DEF)
Houston (Hou - DEF)
New York (NYG - DEF)
Garrett Hartley (NO - K)
Jason Campbell (Was - QB) 
Darren Sproles (SD - RB) 
Antonio Pittman (StL - RB) 
DeShaun Foster (SF - RB) 
Fred TaylorIR (Jac - RB)
Cleveland (Cle - DEF)
Kevin Boss (NYG - TE) 
Selvin YoungIR (Den - RB) 
Matt JonesNA (Jac - WR)
Tatum Bell (Den - RB) 
Correll Buckhalter (Phi - RB) 
Tashard Choice (Dal - RB) 
New England (NE - DEF)
 
514Great One
      ID: 151126410
      Thu, Jan 22, 2009, 16:10 		Doug... you checking on here? I've tried emailing a few different emails the last few weeks and haven't heard back.
 
515Promize
      ID: 551462816
      Wed, Jul 29, 2009, 22:02 		What is the 411 for this league ?
 
516 Slizz
      ID: 26692711
      Thu, Jul 30, 2009, 01:02 		good point promize...i was just thinking about some housekeeping that I need to do!

I have quality keeper-type players that I need to unload...my loss is definitely your gain. These guys are priced to sell as I just want to get down to my 4 keepers:

RB - Michael Turner (TD Machine...'nuff said)

RB - Westbrook

RB - Bush (probably the one guy that is gonna have to be pried out of my grasp)

RB - Pierre Thomas

RB - Leon Washington (KR/PR and 20 touches a game...thats money in the bank)

WR - Steve Smith

WR - Dwayne Bowe