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Subject: 2007 RIFC AA LEAGUE

  Posted by: judy - [7771722] Sat, Aug 04, 2007, 18:22
This is the first post for questions about the AA league.
 
1 davepyro
      Leader
      ID: 017412622
      Sat, Aug 04, 2007, 23:24 		Thanks Judy for setting up league. Could we have team managers identified here when they accept the offer?
 
2E'ville Destiny
      ID: 444132921
      Sat, Aug 04, 2007, 23:49 		Thanks for all the work setting this up. I'm in and ready to go.
 
3BoNkA
      Donor
      ID: 019742310
      Sun, Aug 05, 2007, 00:11 		I signed up earlier. Looking forward to the draft.
 
4Slowhand
      SuperDude
      ID: 056744223
      Sun, Aug 05, 2007, 00:22 		Signed up and ready to go.
 
5 dror
      ID: 5283329
      Sun, Aug 05, 2007, 10:26 		Judy I'm still not getting the invitation, there is probably something wrong with the e-mail please try this one.

thanks
 
6weykool
      Leader
      ID: 41750315
      Sun, Aug 05, 2007, 10:32 		Judy:

Recieved the 2nd invite and I have signed up.
I big THANK YOU to you for stepping up to the plate and getting things going.
Dont worry about making the little mistakes (1st invite not working).
The important thing about being commissioner is having the passion to get things done.
When it comes to passion towards fantasy sports I dont think anyone can top you.
We are lucky to have you running the show.
Looking forward to a great season.
 
7Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Sun, Aug 05, 2007, 10:39 		I am in although won't be signing up at the site until later tonight.

Toral
 
8wolfer
      ID: 146253121
      Sun, Aug 05, 2007, 10:46 		I am in.
 
9 SwinganaMiss
      ID: 1472415
      Sun, Aug 05, 2007, 13:21
I'm in as well. Good luck to all.
 
10judy
      ID: 7771722
      Sun, Aug 05, 2007, 19:38 		thanks everyone -- I hope to set up the kafenafid (however it is
spelled tonight) so look for the invite in your email on Monday.

I am just waiting to hear from one person.

Dror I used this email (a copy paste off the thread site):

dror_steinberg@yahoo.com
it hasn't come back to me as undelivered, so i wonder what is
up. I'll reinvite you via AOL in a minute (sunday 7:38 pm) . Let
me know if you don't get it.

When everyone is on board, I'll post the list of manager's names
and team names and the scoring rules (for you to print out) etc.
 
11Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Sun, Aug 05, 2007, 22:01 		All set.
 
12 Psychos
      ID: 10230622
      Sun, Aug 05, 2007, 22:17 		All set
 
13judy
      ID: 7771722
      Sun, Aug 05, 2007, 22:45 		Psychos -- can you fix your team name in AOL?

Use the team profile link.

Thanks.
 
14judy
      ID: 7771722
      Sun, Aug 05, 2007, 22:48 		For those of you who are new to drafting, here are some sites that I
visit to get rankings:

http://www.fftoday.com/
http://www.fftoolbox.com/index.cfm
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/Home_NFL.aspx
http://cbs.sportsline.com/fantasy/football
http://www.nfl.com/

Use the team sites for depth charts. If you have a favorite site you
are willing to share with the league, post it here!
 
15BoNkA
      Donor
      ID: 019742310
      Sun, Aug 05, 2007, 23:49 		All set
 
16Slowhand
      SuperDude
      ID: 056744223
      Mon, Aug 06, 2007, 00:00 		All set
 
17weykool
      Leader
      ID: 41750315
      Mon, Aug 06, 2007, 01:23 		All set.
My Kaf name is Rob Thayer.
 
18dror
      ID: 5283329
      Mon, Aug 06, 2007, 12:53 		I'm ready in both the league page and kafenatid

thanks again Judy
 
19wolfer
      ID: 24148211
      Mon, Aug 06, 2007, 13:08 		all set
 
20judy
      ID: 7771722
      Mon, Aug 06, 2007, 14:34 		We are almost there. Two more to sign up for the draft and one
more (signed in draft) to sign up on AOL. (You know who you
are...)

I plan to have my neighbor pick numbers out of a bowl (when
she gets home) and that will be the draft order. It is a snake
draft, so slots #1 and #14 have two in a row at the turnaround. I
will post the list as soon as we approve of this method to set the
order... (Majority rules - 7 Yes and we go with it.)

Here are my thoughts on the drafting process:
Go to Kafenatid to review their information.

Early rounds until Monday, August 13, no time limit - these
are the studs who will go in the early rounds and I suspect that
people know who they really want, but we won’t stress a time
limit.

Beginning Monday August 13 at 6 pm EDT:
Rounds UP TO #19 -- 2 hours between picks
Rounds #20-#24 -- 1 hour between picks.

If we start this week -- our goal is a minimum of one and a
half rounds a day beginning August 13th. (I know this does not
sound like a lot, but the draft can get bogged down quickly, so
we need to keep moving. Mike warned me that this would be
the hardest part of my job -- but with the way you all are
responding to sign ups, I think we will be just fine!)

Please try and use a queue if you know you will be away
from a computer for a while. I have already heard that some of
you cannot use work computers to draft! Bummer!

I would like to run the draft from 6 am EDT to midnight
EDT. I am assuming (and let me know if I am in error) that we
are all somewhere in the EDT to PDT time zone (USA)??? The 6
am, while early for PDT, is before work for the EDT. The
midnight lets the PDT draft in their evening.

LET ME KNOW YOUR THOUGHTS ON THESE IDEAS.
1) Draft order selection method
2) Start of draft with no time limit
3) Timing interval for timed draft and start day and time
4) Draft time interval of 6 am to midnight EDT

Once we are all in concensus agreement (I taught at a Quaker
school), I’ll start her up.
 
21Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Mon, Aug 06, 2007, 15:16 		1) The neighbour's bowl method determines the order in which we select our draft order, right? If so, it's OK with me. You might have some sticklers who prefer the "two sets of randonm numbers" method.

2)No time limit until Tuesday, August 14. (There are pre-season games scheduled for Monday, August 13; time limits should not start until they are over). You can start the draft whenever you want but until there's a time limit I'm not picking a player who could be put out for the season in the upcoming weekend's exhibition games.

3)The time limit should be no shorter than 4 hours per pick. Starting in mid-August with a 4-hour time limit will have us through in plenty of time. 1 and 2 hour time limits are absurdly short and completely unnecessary. You definitely do not want someone missing an early round draft pick because of a 2-hour time limit.

4) Again, 6 AM to midnight is too hardass. I mean, really. Someone on the West Coast could have his time start at 3 AM PT and with a 2 hour time limit, time out at 5 AM his time! Queues are highly desirable but can't always be used, especially if the draft is moving fast, which we want. I can live with any drafting period myself but I recommend starting no earlier than 9 A.M. I guess you could end at midnight if you want but would recommend 11 P.M. You can always expand this drafting period later if we are bogged down.

I thought Quakers were laid-back, very silent people ;)

Toral
 
22BoNkA
      Donor
      ID: 019742310
      Mon, Aug 06, 2007, 15:21 		I'm not sure what the other leagues are running for time between picks, but 1 and 2 hours seems extremely short when there's only 6 hours of unclocked draft time during each day. I know I don't like leaving large queues and would prefer to make picks myself in case any position runs start that would change my selection.
This of course depends on what round we've gotten to before the 13th.

I'd also suggest putting a clock on picks before the 13th. I'd go no lower than 4 hours, but no more than 6. It's sort of depressing running into a day where there's 2 or 3 picks because someone ate up 8 hours of clock time for one pick because something came up and they didn't have a queue.
 
23judy
      ID: 7771722
      Mon, Aug 06, 2007, 15:25 		thanks Toral

I didn't know about the preseason games on the 13th. To me
they are meaningless, except from an injury standpoint,
although the injured or "tweaked" ones rarely play anyway. For
me that would be Donovan, Brian W and now Brian D.
GO E-A-G-L-E-S!

I was trying to remember from last year and I guess I
remembered wrong. I picked 2 hours, but it probably was 4. I
know I spent a lot of time waiting...

It does give the PDT's more time...I wanted to give the EDT's
time to do something before work...

We shall see how the discussion goes.

And, no, not all Quakers are silent...
 
24BoNkA
      Donor
      ID: 019742310
      Mon, Aug 06, 2007, 15:26 		Actually, I take back what I said about a time on picks before the 13th. I'd prefer to start the 14th because of the pre-season games, but if we did start early, no clock would be best. Basically for the reason Toral stated.
 
25Slowhand-at work
      ID: 16532417
      Mon, Aug 06, 2007, 16:32 		I have no problem with the neighbors bowl solution;as long as Toral states it is for our spot on the "draft pick draft".

I think the RIFC starts with an 8 hr time limit and shortens it if needed (on Aug 14)if we like. I prefer some time limit even if we start soon.

Again I believe RIFC runs 8 to 10 Eastern time with no clock on the weekends, again we can change this if the draft bogs down.

I think we should try to keep as close to RIFC draft as possible.

Thanks to Judy for all her work and to everyone for their participation.
 
26judy
      ID: 7771722
      Mon, Aug 06, 2007, 16:59 		SLowhand

Draft pick draft? HUH? I see that other leagues are asking a series
of random number generations --from which they pick one
sequence -- or not?

Seems confusing.

HUH?

I will check on the AAA time limits and get back to you all.
 
27 Pops
      ID: 505182616
      Mon, Aug 06, 2007, 17:34 		I haven't been able to get in and I finally realized why.

When I went directly to the league URL it shows 14 teams already registered, doh!

Any ideas?
 
28judy
      ID: 7771722
      Mon, Aug 06, 2007, 18:08 		POPS,

I'll invite you again via AOL.
 
29Pops
      ID: 505182616
      Mon, Aug 06, 2007, 18:13 		Nice, it worked perfectly.

Thanks judy.
 
30judy
      ID: 7771722
      Mon, Aug 06, 2007, 18:26 		POPS,

No Problem, but now can you give your team a name? Under Team
go to my profile to make those changes.

We are all complete on the AOL League lists!
 
31judy
      ID: 7771722
      Mon, Aug 06, 2007, 18:31 		I think I have figured out what draft to draft means.

We set an order (from my neighbor or whatever) and the #1
person gets to pick where in the draft they want to pick. Then
#2 picks and so on. This seems to be what the "big boys and
girl" are doing...

Is that it?

Is that what we want to do? It'll take a little time, but we seem to
be a very responsible group!

Let me know. Your opinion counts, esp since I am still a rookie!

I'd like to come to some consensus by, say 9 pm, on wednesday?
 
32BoNkA
      Donor
      ID: 019742310
      Mon, Aug 06, 2007, 19:28 		Yes, that's what it means and is how it's been done the past few years here. Normally you'd have 2 different people in the league email you a list of numbers. The first set would be matched to a random list of the managers (your neighbor can pick from a hat). The second set is then matched to the first set to determine order of picking. Example:

Set 1: 5 1 4 2 3
Set 2: 3 4 5 1 2

Neighbor: M2, M1, M3, M4, M5
(M1-5 are just managers)

Applied to first set: M1, M4, M5, M3, M2
When you take this list and apply it to the second set, you get the following pick order:
1. M3
2. M2
3. M1
4. M4
5. M5

Hopefully you can follow that and I didn't mess up. I know there's an explanation from Guru in one of the threads.
 
33 davepyro
      Leader
      ID: 017412622
      Mon, Aug 06, 2007, 20:11 		I would like to pick my draft position from a random draw. It might cut down on early trades. I could not figure that double random number generator thing at all, and I like numbers. Nice try BoNkA, but I got lost. I am a West Coaster and will get up at 5:30am on my draft days. I am good until 11:00pm. There are only 2 games on August 13, and 1 on 12th. No clock until then is fine, but if someone is going to wait until a specific game is over, they should let the next person (or commish) know. I do not like a 2 hour clock unless we get stuck for finishing. 4 hours is better and should be plenty.
I do have a government computer at work so I may use a que.
Has anyone seen the VBD software available yet?? Or doesn't anyone use it?? This is the largest roster ever for this dumb rookie.
 
34weykool
      Leader
      ID: 41750315
      Mon, Aug 06, 2007, 20:43 		I would have to agree that 2 hours is way too short.
In past years I think most drafts have been 6 hours.
You can always shorten it to 4 if it bogs down.
Keep in mind most managers dont use their entire time.
I would hate to be skipped if I leave a Que for my next pick and it comes around for another pick because everyone else used their Q's and I timed out.
The idea is to keep it moving at a steady pace.
I know there are plenty of times that someone else is on the clock and it has given me time to plan my next pick.
All down time doesnt need to be dead time.
 
35BoNkA
      Donor
      ID: 019742310
      Mon, Aug 06, 2007, 21:10 		It's hard to follow, but easy once you understand (like anything). I did notice that rather than having a random list (from the neighbor), Guru just sorted managers alphabetically and then applied the two sequences. Personally I don't really care how we get the order, as long as it's random.
 
36wolfer
      ID: 146253121
      Mon, Aug 06, 2007, 21:52 		my .02

1. Draft being random order. That is how all the past and future? drafts will be doing.

2 and 3. Start the draft ASAP with no time limit at the start. If the draft stalls, then we add a time limit later.

4. That is fine with me. All the other drafts that I had here used that time interval.
 
37Jack Hammers
      Donor
      ID: 236482918
      Tue, Aug 07, 2007, 09:38 		1. Random #s

2/3. I'm for no time limit or 8 hrs until whatever date and then to an 8 hour clock depending on how quickly things have moved. 2 hours is way too short. I don't have access at work any longer. I'd prefer not to do the whole 2nd half of the draft through Q's because I was working or on the golf course. Of course adjustments would have to be made if things move too slow. I'd like to go no less than 4 hours at any time during the draft.

4. My preference would be 8am to 11pm. I work at night and would rather not see 6am unless its unless I'm coming from the nightime side of it ;). And I think thats way too early for the west coasters. 11pm is just my personal preference. I can live with whatever hours are decided.
 
38weykool
      Leader
      ID: 41750315
      Tue, Aug 07, 2007, 10:38 		If we have a 6 hour clock I dont see a problem with the 6AM to midnight.
I live on the west coast so it wouldnt be that I would be in danget of being skipped even if my turn started before 6AM (3AM local).
Most of us check the draft before and after work.
If it isnt our turn to pick then we should all have our next pick in the Q.
The key is for the commissioner to identify those who time out/use the full clock and get them to use the Q for the upcoming pick.
 
39Slowhand
      SuperDude
      ID: 056744223
      Tue, Aug 07, 2007, 10:41 		Just to clarify... you got it right in post 31 judy,and that is how the other RIFC leagues will be doing it. I personally enjoy picking/drafting my draft slot,but I'm fine with anything.

I really like the to have some time limit tho even early on 8,10,12,24 hrs. it doesn't matter,but if you're behind someone with no queue (or someone who drops out as a few have in other AA drafts),it's nice to have some idea of when you need to check in.

You're doing a great job judy and once we get moving on the draft it gets a lot easier.
 
40dror
      ID: 5283329
      Tue, Aug 07, 2007, 10:50 		1 - I like the idea of drafting the draft positions.

2/3/4 - I live overseas (ET + 7) so a 2 hour clock is way too quick for me. I will use the que as much as I can but I think 6 or 4 hours is better to give everyone a chance to feel the draft and change plans according to position runs and stuff like that, especially in the early and middle rounds.
 
41judy
      ID: 7771722
      Tue, Aug 07, 2007, 11:10 		In anticipation of setting the draft to draft order, I need two sets
of random numbers. I'll take the first two sets posted by two
different people.

Please post here on the thread.

I will use my neighbor to set the original list order.

THEN, I need someone who understands how to "do it" to
volunteer to create the final list for us!

Thanks.
 
42 BoNkA
      Donor
      ID: 019742310
      Tue, Aug 07, 2007, 12:59 		I'll take the lists and get the final order if you'd like. Please email me when the three lists are posted and I'll get it up as soon as possible.
 
43BoNkA
      Donor
      ID: 019742310
      Tue, Aug 07, 2007, 13:05 		Oh, I forgot to mention, the sets need to consist of numbers 1 through 14 placed randomly, just in the case anyone was unsure.
 
44judy
      ID: 7771722
      Tue, Aug 07, 2007, 14:32 		You guys are GREAT! We are all signed up for AOL and
Kafenatid!

It looks like we will run a draft to pick the draft order. This is
what the other RIFC are doing. (We didn't do this last year
because we got a late start.)

Please send a list of random numbers ASAP so that BONKA can
make the draft to draft order! We just need 2 lists.


Thanks.
 
45Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Tue, Aug 07, 2007, 15:10 		Random numbers between what and what? I'll use two-digit numbers.

Anybody else can also get random numbers here.

92
37
83
26
58
20
24
5
4
17
61
75
49
87

Toral


 
46BoNkA
      Donor
      ID: 019742310
      Tue, Aug 07, 2007, 15:11 		Numbers need to be 1 through 14 as I said earlier :D
 
47Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Tue, Aug 07, 2007, 15:12 		Sorry, I didn't see BONKA's post 43. Here we go:

8
12
12
4
7
3
3
10
11
2
3
12
9
9
 
48Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Tue, Aug 07, 2007, 15:16 		If you want a random sequence between 1 and 14, here it is:

10
9
8
7
12
1
13
4
2
5
6
3
11
14

And you can go here to make another one.

(See, there are many ways to do this. When I commisshed an AAA league, I used 3-digit random numbers and added them together.)

Toral
 
49BoNkA
      Donor
      ID: 019742310
      Tue, Aug 07, 2007, 15:16 		They do need to be unique as well. Just randomly order 1 through 14. Third time's the charm, hehe.

Example:

4 10 6 14 2 12 9 3 13 7 8 1 11 5
 
50Slowhand-at work
      ID: 16532417
      Tue, Aug 07, 2007, 15:17 		8
7
5
3
14
12
1
6
13
2
10
4
11
9
 
51judy
      ID: 7771722
      Tue, Aug 07, 2007, 15:19 		Bonka

Do your magic!

Here is the original order (from my neighbor):
1 = SwinganaMiss
2 = Donkey Hunters
3 = JackHammers
4 = Slowhand
5 = Team 13
6 = Team 6
7 = Thunder Bunnies
8 = RustyStone
9 = The Red Scorpions
10 = E’ville Destiny
11 = The fighting joe carsons
12 = Toral Wheatfarmers
13 = Bonka Bombers
14 = Weykool
 
52BoNkA
      Donor
      ID: 019742310
      Tue, Aug 07, 2007, 15:20 		Ok..

Set 1: 10, 9, 8, 7, 12, 1, 13, 4, 2, 5, 6, 3, 11, 14
Set 2: 8, 7, 5, 3, 14, 12, 1, 6, 13, 2, 10, 4, 11, 9

Just need Judy's list of managers, whether alphabetical or random, and I'll post the order. Thanks.
 
53wolfer
      ID: 24148211
      Tue, Aug 07, 2007, 15:20 		Um, don't they need to include every number between 1 and 14 like:

13
10
7
1
11
8
4
12
14
3
2
5
9
6
 
54judy
      ID: 7771722
      Tue, Aug 07, 2007, 15:22 		It looks like those who are "chiming in" are in agreement for a draft
to draft picking order.

So unless I hear otherwise by 9 pm tonight (EDT TUESDAY AUG 7),
we'll start picking draft positions.

If you DISAGREE, the time is NOW to chime in!

Thanks.
 
55judy
      ID: 7771722
      Tue, Aug 07, 2007, 15:24 		bonka

I think #14 is missing in the first set... and #13 from the second
set?
 
56BoNkA
      Donor
      ID: 019742310
      Tue, Aug 07, 2007, 15:25 		Here is what I came up with, feel free to check it if you know how!

1 Slowhand
2 SwinganaMiss
3 RustyStone
4 Team 13
5 Toral Wheatfarmers
6 JackHammers
7 The Red Scorpions
8 Team 6
9 Weykool
10 Bonka Bombers
11 Thunder Bunnies
12 The fighting joe carsons
13 Donkey Hunters
14 E’ville Destiny
 
57Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Tue, Aug 07, 2007, 15:25 		Nope, they all have both 14 numbers.
 
58judy
      ID: 7771722
      Tue, Aug 07, 2007, 15:29 		oops -

been finalizing the schedule for a couple of hours (it's done)
and the eyes are bleery!

Kinda like Sudoku but with words!

 
60judy
      ID: 7771722
      Tue, Aug 07, 2007, 15:35 		Thanks Bonka

Last time for "chimers" is 9 pm EDT tonight (to give PDT+ time
to get home and see the threads for today).

If there are no major objections, then #1 will be "on the
clock" (untimed) to choose a draft slot.

I will keep checking in and email you when you are next on the
list.

Use this thread to make your choices so everyone can see what's
happening.

I am away from the computer for a few hours -- will check back
in ~ 6 pm EDT.
 
61davepyro
      ID: 21105829
      Tue, Aug 07, 2007, 17:13 		I figgered out the double random number process and it looks like to me that BoNkA's order is correct. Neat system!!
 
62judy
      ID: 7771722
      Tue, Aug 07, 2007, 18:15 		dror

Just curious...

Dumb question but:

Does ET + 7 mean you are ahead of ET (Europe) or behind ET
(Hawaii)?
 
63Slowhand
      SuperDude
      ID: 056744223
      Tue, Aug 07, 2007, 20:12 		We are going to dinner with friends...MDT so I will take the liberty of jumping the gun a bit,and select:

Draft position #1
 
65judy
      ID: 7771722
      Tue, Aug 07, 2007, 21:07 		IT's 9 pm EDT so here we go:

WHEN YOU CHOOSE YOUR SPOT, PLEASE GIVE YOUR KAFENTID
DRAFTING NAME SO I AM SURE TO PUT YOU IN THE RIGHT SPOT!

To post your choice, copy/paste both the lists and put them into
a message; add your name where you want it and then delete
your name from the ON THE CLOCK list:

DRAFT POSITION SLOTS:
1 = SLOWHAND (Slowhand = kafenatid username)
2 =
3 =
4 =
5 =
6 =
7 =
8 =
9 =
10 =
11 =
12 =
13 =
14 =

ON THE CLOCK:

2 SwinganaMiss
3 RustyStone
4 Team 13
5 Toral Wheatfarmers
6 JackHammers
7 The Red Scorpions
8 Team 6
9 Weykool
10 Bonka Bombers
11 Thunder Bunnies
12 The fighting joe carsons
13 Donkey Hunters
14 E’ville Destiny
 
66SwinganaMiss
      ID: 1472415
      Tue, Aug 07, 2007, 21:17 		I'll take draft position #2, draft name SwinganaMiss.
 
69judy
      ID: 7771722
      Tue, Aug 07, 2007, 21:32 		WHEN YOU CHOOSE YOUR SPOT, PLEASE GIVE YOUR KAFENTID
DRAFTING NAME SO I AM SURE TO PUT YOU IN THE RIGHT SPOT!

To post your choice, copy/paste both the lists and put them into
a message; add your name where you want it and then delete
your name from the ON THE CLOCK list:

DRAFT POSITION SLOTS:
1 = SLOWHAND (Slowhand = kafenatid username)
2 = SwinganaMiss (SwinganaMiss)
3 =
4 =
5 = RustyStone (Judy)
6 =
7 =
8 =
9 =
10 =
11 =
12 =
13 =
14 =

ON THE CLOCK:

4 Team 13
5 Toral Wheatfarmers
6 JackHammers
7 The Red Scorpions
8 Team 6 --oops I mean team 8
9 Weykool
10 Bonka Bombers
11 Thunder Bunnies
12 The fighting joe carsons
13 Donkey Hunters
14 E’ville Destiny
 
70Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Tue, Aug 07, 2007, 21:35 		Things are moving fast and really well, judy. Thanx for your efforts, which are really doing a good job.

Toral
 
71BoNkA
      Donor
      ID: 019742310
      Tue, Aug 07, 2007, 21:41 		Do team 13 and team 8 know who they are?
 
72judy
      ID: 7771722
      Tue, Aug 07, 2007, 21:46 		I sent Team 13 (pops, I think) an email and will do the same for
Team 8 (matt/psychos, I think) when it is his turn.

I am checking every 10 min tonight -- until the Phillies game is
over or 11:30 whichever is later...

Toral -- thanks for the boost -- I am having fun, but cannot wait
to draft a player instead of a position!
 
73judy
      ID: 7771722
      Tue, Aug 07, 2007, 23:19 		OK time for bed. (Phils won 11-1. Moyer was awesome. Ryan
hit two.)

You guys are on your own to keep going on the draft order
choices. I will be away from a computer until the afternoon EDT.

Here are some suggestions if you are on the wait list.

1) If you want the next highest pick, no matter what it is, post
that wish and trust that a guy behind you will do it for you.
2) If you want something special, like 10 or later highest to
lowest, post that and trust.
3) If you want the lowest, etc.

Plan to check the thread at least once a day from now on. Twice
is better!

Leave messages here on the thread so people can see them.

With any luck we will finish the draft position choices by
tomorrow night (Tuesday). I’ll put them into kafenatid as soon
as the list is complete and send out an email to begin an
untimed draft for those who might know whom they want and it
is their turn.

That said, I know that some managers want to wait until the Mon
and Tues pre-season games are over to draft a player. That’s
OK too!

Right now I anticipate beginning the untimed player draft this
Wednesday, August 8th -- somebody suggest a start time EDT.

After the preseason games are over -- Wednesday, August 15th
-- we will follow the lead of the other leagues and use a 6 hour
clock and that should be enough to get us started and to cover
all our time zones. Queue lists should help here.

You should be ready to set up queues or be able to get on a
computer so we can keep the draft going. Hopefully not too
many rounds will use the entire 6 hour limit. If it gets close to
crunch time, we might need to shorten it.

If anyone has any other thoughts, please post them here.
 
74 Psychos
      ID: 10230622
      Wed, Aug 08, 2007, 00:00 		DRAFT POSITION SLOTS:
1 = SLOWHAND (Slowhand = kafenatid username)
2 = SwinganaMiss (SwinganaMiss)
3 =PsychoLonghorn(Matt)
4 =
5 = RustyStone (Judy)
6 =
7 =
8 =
9 =
10 =
11 =
12 =
13 =
14 =

ON THE CLOCK:

4 Team 13
5 Toral Wheatfarmers
6 JackHammers
7 The Red Scorpions

9 Weykool
10 Bonka Bombers
11 Thunder Bunnies
12 The fighting joe carsons
13 Donkey Hunters
14 E’ville Destiny
 
75Slowhand
      SuperDude
      ID: 056744223
      Wed, Aug 08, 2007, 00:59 		Psycho- you appear to have drafted out of order...Team 8 which is yours needs to wait until 4,5,6,&7 have chosen their draft positions until you can choose yours.The draft board should read:

DRAFT POSITION SLOTS:
1 = SLOWHAND (Slowhand = kafenatid username)
2 = SwinganaMiss (SwinganaMiss)
3 =
4 =
5 = RustyStone (Judy)
6 =
7 =
8 =
9 =
10 =
11 =
12 =
13 =
14 =

ON THE CLOCK:

4 Team 13
5 Toral Wheatfarmers
6 JackHammers
7 The Red Scorpions
8 Team 8/ Psychos
9 Weykool
10 Bonka Bombers
11 Thunder Bunnies
12 The fighting joe carsons
13 Donkey Hunters
14 E’ville Destiny

Team 13 which I believe is Pops should make the next selection
 
76Jack Hammers
      Donor
      ID: 236482918
      Wed, Aug 08, 2007, 10:44 		If my pick comes up, you can give me the highest available. I'll be out for a while
 
77Pops
      ID: 505182616
      Wed, Aug 08, 2007, 11:24 		I'll take draft position #3

draft name - Pops
 
78Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Wed, Aug 08, 2007, 11:32 		Pops -- are you team 13?
I.e., am I on the clock now?
 
79dror
      ID: 5283329
      Wed, Aug 08, 2007, 11:49 		yes you are Toral
 
80EvilleDestiny
      ID: 15222811
      Wed, Aug 08, 2007, 14:21 		Been out of town for a few days. I see I got my normal draft position (14).

Thanks again to Judy, BoNka and all for the work you've put in.

I did have one question. I noticed the Receiving points are 1 for 25 yards. Am I correct with that? I have never used AOL before so I just want to make sure I know what I'm doing before the draft starts.
 
81judy
      ID: 7771722
      Wed, Aug 08, 2007, 15:15 		DRAFT POSITION SLOTS:
1 = SLOWHAND (Slowhand = kafenatid username)
2 = SwinganaMiss (SwinganaMiss)
3 = Team 13 (pops)
4 =
5 = RustyStone (Judy)
6 =
7 =
8 =
9 =
10 =
11 =
12 =
13 =
14 =

ON THE CLOCK:

5 Toral Wheatfarmers
6 JackHammers
7 The Red Scorpions
8 Team 8/ Psychos
9 Weykool
10 Bonka Bombers
11 Thunder Bunnies
12 The fighting joe carsons
13 Donkey Hunters
14 E’ville Destiny
 
82judy
      ID: 7771722
      Wed, Aug 08, 2007, 15:25 		NOTE: Once the draft positions are set, I'll start a new thread
with that info at the top.

Also, yes, passing yardage is 1/25 or .04 points/yard.

Go to http://rotoguru1.com/cgi-bin/read.pl?
board=foot&thread=4868#1185937964

post #67 to see the scoring rules.

I am sending a .pdf copy of the scoring rules from Guru via
email. It is in a summary type format. I copy pasted it from
their thread.
 
83Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Wed, Aug 08, 2007, 15:37 		I haven't had time to do research so I'm just going to pick whatever the RIFC (major legue) manager in my position picked.

Now how can i find that out....

Toral
 
84Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Wed, Aug 08, 2007, 15:47 		OK, done my research. (I mean, c'mon this is AA right -- we aren't exactly competing for a ticket to Canton.)

I select draft position #4.

Toral
 
85Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Wed, Aug 08, 2007, 15:50 		DRAFT POSITION SLOTS:
1 = SLOWHAND (Slowhand = kafenatid username)
2 = SwinganaMiss (SwinganaMiss)
3 = Team 13 (pops)
4 = Toral Wheatfarmers (Toral)
5 = RustyStone (Judy)
6 =
7 =
8 =
9 =
10 =
11 =
12 =
13 =
14 =
 
86dror
      ID: 5283329
      Wed, Aug 08, 2007, 15:56 		Jackshammers asked to give him the highest availible (post 76), so he will get #6 and I will take the #8 spot.

DRAFT POSITION SLOTS:
1 = SLOWHAND (Slowhand = kafenatid username)
2 = SwinganaMiss (SwinganaMiss)
3 = Team 13 (pops)
4 = Toral Wheatfarmers (Toral)
5 = RustyStone (Judy)
6 = Jackhammers (Jackhammers)
7 =
8 = The Red scorpions (Dror)
9 =
10 =
11 =
12 =
13 =
14 =

ON THE CLOCK:

8 Team 8/ Psychos
9 Weykool
10 Bonka Bombers
11 Thunder Bunnies
12 The fighting joe carsons
13 Donkey Hunters
14 E’ville Destiny
 
87judy
      ID: 7771722
      Wed, Aug 08, 2007, 16:03 		Excellent work - email sent to Psychos!
 
88 Psycho
      ID: 286431818
      Wed, Aug 08, 2007, 16:20 		DRAFT POSITION SLOTS:
1 = SLOWHAND (Slowhand = kafenatid username)
2 = SwinganaMiss (SwinganaMiss)
3 = Team 13 (pops)
4 = Toral Wheatfarmers (Toral)
5 = RustyStone (Judy)
6 = Jackhammers (Jackhammers)
7 = Psycho
8 = The Red scorpions (Dror)
9 =
10 =
11 =
12 =
13 =
14 =

ON THE CLOCK:

9 Weykool
10 Bonka Bombers
11 Thunder Bunnies
12 The fighting joe carsons
13 Donkey Hunters
14 E’ville Destiny
 
89Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Wed, Aug 08, 2007, 16:21 		We're a pretty dull bunch, draft pick-wise.
 
90BoNkA
      Donor
      ID: 019742310
      Wed, Aug 08, 2007, 16:30 		Yeah, I'd say so.
 
91judy
      ID: 7771722
      Wed, Aug 08, 2007, 16:51 		psycho - what's your kafenatid draft handle?
 
92 Psycho
      ID: 286431818
      Wed, Aug 08, 2007, 18:01 		PsychoLonghorn
 
93judy
      ID: 7771722
      Wed, Aug 08, 2007, 19:05 		DRAFT POSITION SLOTS:
1 = SLOWHAND (Slowhand = kafenatid username)
2 = SwinganaMiss (SwinganaMiss)
3 = Team 13 (pops)
4 = Toral Wheatfarmers (Toral)
5 = RustyStone (Judy)
6 = Jackhammers (Jackhammers)
7 = Psycho (PsychoLonghorn)
8 = The Red scorpions (Dror)
9 = Weykool
10 =
11 =
12 =
13 =
14 =

ON THE CLOCK:

10 Bonka Bombers
11 Thunder Bunnies
12 The fighting joe carsons
13 Donkey Hunters
14 E’ville Destiny
 
94davepyro
      Leader
      ID: 017412622
      Wed, Aug 08, 2007, 19:16 		When it is my turn (Thunder Bunnies) I will take highest spot available.
 
95BoNkA
      Donor
      ID: 019742310
      Wed, Aug 08, 2007, 19:17 		DRAFT POSITION SLOTS:
1 = SLOWHAND (Slowhand = kafenatid username)
2 = SwinganaMiss (SwinganaMiss)
3 = Team 13 (pops)
4 = Toral Wheatfarmers (Toral)
5 = RustyStone (Judy)
6 = Jackhammers (Jackhammers)
7 = Psycho (PsychoLonghorn)
8 = The Red scorpions (Dror)
9 = Weykool
10 = Thunder Bunnies
11 =
12 = Bonka Bombers (Bonka)
13 =
14 =

ON THE CLOCK:

12 The fighting joe carsons
13 Donkey Hunters
14 E’ville Destiny
 
96judy
      ID: 7771722
      Wed, Aug 08, 2007, 19:33 		thunderbunnies -- what is your katenafid draft handle?

thanks.
 
97davepyro
      Leader
      ID: 017412622
      Wed, Aug 08, 2007, 21:33 		I think it is Dave Pyro Thunder Bunnies
 
98wolfer
      ID: 146253121
      Wed, Aug 08, 2007, 21:58 		DRAFT POSITION SLOTS:
1 = SLOWHAND (Slowhand = kafenatid username)
2 = SwinganaMiss (SwinganaMiss)
3 = Team 13 (pops)
4 = Toral Wheatfarmers (Toral)
5 = RustyStone (Judy)
6 = Jackhammers (Jackhammers)
7 = Psycho (PsychoLonghorn)
8 = The Red scorpions (Dror)
9 = Weykool
10 = Thunder Bunnies
11 =
12 = Bonka Bombers (Bonka)
13 =
14 = The fighting joe carsons (wolfer)
 
99wolfer
      ID: 146253121
      Wed, Aug 08, 2007, 21:58 		DRAFT POSITION SLOTS:
1 = SLOWHAND (Slowhand = kafenatid username)
2 = SwinganaMiss (SwinganaMiss)
3 = Team 13 (pops)
4 = Toral Wheatfarmers (Toral)
5 = RustyStone (Judy)
6 = Jackhammers (Jackhammers)
7 = Psycho (PsychoLonghorn)
8 = The Red scorpions (Dror)
9 = Weykool
10 = Thunder Bunnies
11 =
12 = Bonka Bombers (Bonka)
13 =
14 = The fighting joe carsons (wolfer)
 
100judy
      ID: 7771722
      Wed, Aug 08, 2007, 23:24 		OK, I'm off to bed. (Phils won again. Dontrelle was wild and that
helped us a lot.)

Hopefully, the last manager will choose his slot tonight or
tomorrow am.

When that happens, I'll load the order into Kafenatid and start
the draft. I'll also start a new/clean thread. Check here for the
link. This will not happen until afternoon EDT on Thursday.

The player draft will be untimed and run 24 hours, until after the
last pre-season game on Tuesday unless we decide otherwise.
After that it will be 6 hours and go 6 am to midnight EDT -- that
is what the others are doing as best I can tell.

As a matter of courtesy, if you are "on the (untimed) clock" and
do not plan to draft until after a certain time/game, please post
that information on the thread so the rest of us aren't getting
too eager. Also if you are out and about, leave a queue if you
wish to.

You all are great to work with! Keep checking the thread for
updates though...

 
101Donkey Hunter
      ID: 451362821
      Thu, Aug 09, 2007, 00:49 		DRAFT POSITION SLOTS:
1 = SLOWHAND (Slowhand = kafenatid username)
2 = SwinganaMiss (SwinganaMiss)
3 = Team 13 (pops)
4 = Toral Wheatfarmers (Toral)
5 = RustyStone (Judy)
6 = Jackhammers (Jackhammers)
7 = Psycho (PsychoLonghorn)
8 = The Red scorpions (Dror)
9 = Weykool
10 = Thunder Bunnies
11 =
12 = Bonka Bombers (Bonka)
13 = Donkey Hunter
14 = The fighting joe carsons (wolfer)
 
102davepyro
      Leader
      ID: 017412622
      Thu, Aug 09, 2007, 01:17 		#73 Judy, As a Seattle Mariner season ticket holder, you are welcome for Moyer. It was nice to see him go where he wanted. I am very glad he is still doing well.
Sorry, I was just a little tired of football.
 
103EvilleDestiny
      Leader
      ID: 29017810
      Thu, Aug 09, 2007, 08:41 		After much deliberation...........

DRAFT POSITION SLOTS:
1 = SLOWHAND (Slowhand = kafenatid username)
2 = SwinganaMiss (SwinganaMiss)
3 = Team 13 (pops)
4 = Toral Wheatfarmers (Toral)
5 = RustyStone (Judy)
6 = Jackhammers (Jackhammers)
7 = Psycho (PsychoLonghorn)
8 = The Red scorpions (Dror)
9 = Weykool
10 = Thunder Bunnies
11 = EvilleDestiny
12 = Bonka Bombers (Bonka)
13 = Donkey Hunter
14 = The fighting joe carsons (wolfer)
 
104judy
      ID: 7771722
      Thu, Aug 09, 2007, 13:47 		Here is the new thread site - -make it all one line.

http://rotoguru1.com/cgi-bin/
read.plboard=foot&thread=4885#1186685139
 
106judy
      ID: 7771722
      Thu, Aug 09, 2007, 13:56 		for some reason, the link is not working. If you go to the top of
this thread and click on the purple RotoGuru Football Forum, we
are listed as 2007 RIFC AA POST #2.

If someone knows how to post the direct link and make it work,
please do. I am not sure what I am doing incorrectly!

Thanks.
 
107mjd
      Sustainer
      ID: 501381415
      Thu, Aug 09, 2007, 21:06 		Once leagues are formed, discussion should be continued in Football Leagues and Standings. The link to your thread is here