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- [422551921] Sat, Aug 18, 2007, 15:42
I'm surprised there's no thread about this.
Anyway, does anyone know what RH decided to do in regards to pricing over bye weeks? That answer doesn't seem to exist anywhere on the site and I think it should. It's going to be a huge part of the game whether they want it to be or not. |
| | | 1 | donk44
ID: 42611019
Sat, Aug 18, 2007, 15:52
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I assume it will work just like off days for baseball. It will be up to the participants to decide whether to hold or sell during their bye week, and their price will react accordingly. Which in most cases will mean prices of those players will go down, except maybe for the really top players who get sold out (like ARod in baseball) and held onto.
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| | | 2 | TacoJohn
ID: 422551921
Sat, Aug 18, 2007, 16:17
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donk, were you in on the "hog force" discussions? They talked about some various types of price controls. Obviously in something like football the price swings could get REALLY dramatic.
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| | | 3 | Doug
ID: 441251914
Sat, Aug 18, 2007, 16:25
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I'm new to this game. I didn't see anything about any limits to number of trades, is this correct?
Is the basic strategy like the old smallworld/TSN game... buy low, sell high to raise your overall roster value (while at the same time scoring good points along the way)?
With the added twist that some players might get "sold out" (i.e., only 50 people can own LT or whatever?)
If LT sells out, and then an owner sells him... is it whoever is first person to notice gets him? Or do you put in "buy orders" for players, and the highest one gets him?
Forgive me if some of these things are covered on the site... I went to the rules page and it all seemed a little vague to me how it actually works.
Some guys who looked appealing to me in terms of performance vs. their draft price included Adrian Peterson and Travis Henry. Does draft price stay constant from now until the market opens on 9/4 or whenever it is?
Of course, I was just looking based on my season-long expectation for guys... closer to draft day I'll probably want to check their early season matchups. Seemed to me like WR was a good position to find some guys to "buy cheap" as well.
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ID: 42611019
Sat, Aug 18, 2007, 17:04
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TJ - I wasn't in on the hog force discussions, so don't know what that is.
But now that you mention it, I do remember reading somewhere (probably on RH football rules or FAQ) about price controls for football. I think they said the buy/sell market would be closed from Saturday (or maybe it was Sunday after the first game freeze?) until Tuesday morning. Could that be what price controls are referring to ?
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| | | 5 | GoatLocker
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ID: 060151121
Sat, Aug 18, 2007, 17:25
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I would guess that we won't know what is going to happen until the year starts.
And that is only fair to everybody playing the game.
Still haven't really sorted through how I will handle things.
Doug,
Will answer your questions in a few.
Cliff
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| | | 6 | GoatLocker
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ID: 060151121
Sat, Aug 18, 2007, 17:31
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Donk- send me and email
Doug,
I'm going to copy from the Rules, because if I don't, I will end up confusing things that were discussed versus the rules.
First, the draft.
The draft at RotoHog is unlike any other. Instead of a typical priority order draft, it's a free-for-all with every manager drafting at the same time. We do this because it's much more exciting and takes much less time. But since every manager also has the same opportunity to draft each player it's also more fair.
Each round of the draft lasts two minutes with a thirty-second break in between each. Over the course of ten rounds, you'll have the opportunity to draft ten players to fill your starting roster. You'll start the draft with a budget of 300 RotoHog dollars.
Players are available at a ratio of twelve managers for one player. Also, a player's price is primarily based on his projected performance. Thus, the better players will usually cost more. You need to plan your draft and look for value at certain positions since you won't have the budget to simply draft the best player available. The Pre Rank tool is especially helpful in preparing for the draft and in determining your ideal team within the budget constraint.
After you finish the draft, you also have three bench spots that you can fill from the trading floor once the market opens September 4th.
The price they are bought at during the draft will stay that way until the Market Opens on 4 Sept.
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| | | 7 | GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Sat, Aug 18, 2007, 17:42
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Managing Your Team
Each week you will start ten players from your roster:
2 Quarterbacks (QB)
2 Running Backs (RB)
3 Wide Receivers (WR)
1 Tight End (TE)
1 Kicker (K)
1 Defensive Team (DEF)
Starting on Tuesday, September 4th at 6:30am Pacific Time when the trading floor opens, you'll be able to buy and sell players at any time.
In order to get credit for a player's on field performance, you'll have to place him in a starting position at least 10 minutes before his game begins. You cannot sell players in starting positions from 10 minutes before his game starts until the opening of trading the following Tuesday morning.
Since your roster consists of thirteen players, you'll have room on your bench for players facing a tough match-up or a bye week, yet are too valuable to sell. For other players, use the trading floor to buy and sell players based on the money you have available and their projected worth at any given week.
The Team History link shows every player you have started on your team and their statistical performance. This page also details the buy and sell price of all the players you have owned. The Watch List is a tool that allows you track players that you are considering buying for your team. This tool shows game statistics as well as pricing information.
Basically, trades are unlimited, but you have to realize bid/ask comes into play.
In baseball, the more expensive a player's price was, the more it cost to buy him.
For example, price is $89.77, cost to buy is $90
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| | | 8 | GoatLocker
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Sat, Aug 18, 2007, 17:46
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Is the basic strategy like the old smallworld/TSN game... buy low, sell high to raise your overall roster value (while at the same time scoring good points along the way)?
YES
With the added twist that some players might get "sold out" (i.e., only 50 people can own LT or whatever?)
and this appears to have more of an impact later on
If LT sells out, and then an owner sells him... is it whoever is first person to notice gets him? Or do you put in "buy orders" for players, and the highest one gets him?
YEP, that is the way it works. And the price players sell out at can be very different. Remember, 1 player per 12 teams.
Does draft price stay constant from now until the market opens on 9/4 or whenever it is?
Answered this in an earlier post, but yes.
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| | | 9 | TacoJohn
ID: 422551921
Sat, Aug 18, 2007, 22:43
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Just to clarify sold out players will see their prices inflate until there is enough sell pressure to reintroduce liquidity.
The no selling until Tuesday morning looks interesting.
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| | | 10 | Doug
ID: 113132214
Sun, Aug 19, 2007, 04:02
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Seems prudent to wait until a later draft then (near Sept. 1), to have the best idea of who to target in the draft.
It says there's 1 "copy" of a player available per 12 managers in a draft... any way to find out how many managers are signed up for a given draft... either beforehand or during?
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| | | 11 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sun, Aug 19, 2007, 08:39
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12 teams per draft
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| | | 13 | TacoJohn
ID: 422551921
Sun, Aug 19, 2007, 15:51
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I put together a spreadsheet with all the players and prices, etc at WeeklyProjections.com
Most of the stuff on there won't be of much use to you guys, but I figured that spreadsheet could come in handy.
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| | | 14 | Alex
ID: 8718115
Mon, Aug 20, 2007, 12:19
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Guru - That's wrong. If you read the rules carefully, they changed it from baseball...the drafts are more of a free-for-all with many people and multiple copies of each player per draft now.
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| | | 15 | Alex
ID: 8718115
Mon, Aug 20, 2007, 12:20
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Anybody know whether they're going to be doing weekly or monthly contests other than the initial week 1-4 LG Television one that's listed as 'coming soon'?
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| | | 16 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Aug 20, 2007, 12:26
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I hadn't picked up on that. I suppose that's good, since your drafted roster will be less impacted by a few other managers with similar strategies.
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| | | 17 | Alex
ID: 8718115
Mon, Aug 20, 2007, 12:42
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BTW, Just found the answer to my question - there are 17 weekly contests, with the top 10 winning prizes that are pretty similar to the monthly prizes for baseball.
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| | | 18 | TacoJohn
ID: 57591711
Mon, Aug 20, 2007, 15:12
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Alex, I also didn't notice that tweak. You're always sharp on noticing those rule subtleties.
BTW, how did baseball work this year? Shouldn't many of the players have been sold out when trading opened? I mean would it be a surprise if guys like Pujols and ARod were taken in literally every draft? Were they sold out and I just don't remember?
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| | | 19 | TacoJohn
ID: 57591711
Mon, Aug 20, 2007, 15:14
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Alex, after reading this more closely, it looks the same as baseball. What are you seeing that's different?
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| | | 20 | Alex
ID: 8718115
Mon, Aug 20, 2007, 16:12
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I can't find the thing I read before anymore, but it sounded like ALL the teams drafting at a given time drafted from the same pool of players. So instead of 12 people in a draft with 1 of each player, it would be maybe 240 people with 20 of each player. Like I said, I can't seem to find that in the rules now, but I'm pretty sure that's what I read when they first put the football stuff online.
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| | | 21 | GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Mon, Aug 20, 2007, 16:35
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If you go under Support and Draft,
"How does the draft work at RotoHog?
It's fast and revolutionary. It's an open-market free-for-all where over 1000 managers can participate in the same draft at the same time. No random draft orders. No more having luck determine the success of your team. Each player is priced according to his points potential and is made available at a 12 to 1 ratio of managers to players. We have a practice draft available for you to get a grip on the way it works."
Fairly clear, so changes the way from Baseball when there were only 12 drafting at a time.
Cliff
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| | | 22 | Alex
ID: 8718115
Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 11:32
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Anybody playing in either the 'Jackpot League' or any of the 12 person pay leagues?
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| | | 23 | TacoJohn
ID: 57591711
Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 15:56
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I'm going to go for a few pay leagues I think.
I just posted about this in my blog, but I wish the payouts weren't so darned top-heavy. There are a lot more sharp players in football than baseball, imo, so it seems that out of 12 people willing to throw down some cash on this at least 3 or 4 will be pretty sharp. And it could be way more.
If you finish 3rd in every league (you only get 1 team remember) you lose everything you put up.
So while I'm almost sure I have the edge over the "average" player even among those who would do a pay league, I don't think it's big enough for me to put much money down.
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| | | 24 | Alex
ID: 8718115
Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 16:09
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I have absolutely zero experience at fantasy football, but I'm surprised there are more sharp players. Fantasy baseball seems to much more 'nerdy' that I would have thought it would weed out a lot more casual fans than fantasy football would.
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| | | 25 | TacoJohn
ID: 422551921
Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 17:28
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I think the thing about football is that you can get away with being a casual fan in some sense.
An ultrasharp fantasy baseballer will crush even a pretty hardcore baseball fan, imo.
With football the fantasy resources are plentiful and it's not too hard, if you're a bright guy and care to, to get good solid info every week to go on.
But maybe all this means is that I'm a fantasy football fish though I have had pretty good success up to this point.
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| | | 26 | TacoJohn
ID: 422551921
Sat, Aug 25, 2007, 16:19
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RH updated their player list and prices. They went from ~380 players to ~860 if I remember right.
I updated the downloadable spreadsheet on my site if you guys need it.
I'm amazed at how many players there are now.
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| | | 27 | Doug
ID: 113132214
Sun, Aug 26, 2007, 19:49
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Updated their prices??? I thought they weren't going to change them until Sept. 4th!?
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| | | 28 | Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 12:12
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I do my RH draft tonight. When I go into the practice draft, there are already guys sold out?!?!?? Weird.
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| | | 29 | Alex
ID: 8718115
Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 12:45
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Species - I think they just did that to show what it would look like.
I did my draft today. It actually didn't work properly and I couldn't make picks (even though the practice draft had worked ok), but I'm happy enough with the players I got based on my pre-rankings, so I probably won't take RH up on their offer to draft at another time. At this stage its all about getting players who will appreciate in price anyway.
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| | | 30 | GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 13:34
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Forgot I was supposed to draft last nite.
Signed up for 8 tonite.
No more ready than the man in the moon, but guess we will see.
Cliff
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| | | 31 | Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 13:48
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......and any thoughts on who those people will be?
1 - Players with good week 1 matchups?
2 - Top priced stars?
3 - Value priced players? Who?
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| | | 32 | Alex
ID: 8718115
Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 14:11
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Supposedly top 5 players at each skill position have been selling out in drafts, so those seem like a good bet.
I'm also betting on the week 1 matchups being important once trading starts.
P.S. Take my opinion with a grain of salt...I've never played fantasy football before and haven't really followed football at all the past 5 or 6 years.
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| | | 33 | GoatLocker
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ID: 060151121
Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 22:53
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Just about ready to draft.
Wish me luck.
Cliff
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| | | 34 | Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 22:55
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Cliff - I think I'm in your draft. Draft Room A - 8:00. :)
Are you going to beat me to Reggie Bush? LMAO
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| | | 35 | GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 23:12
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Nope, but I got LT and MJD
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| | | 37 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 15:13
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I just signed up for the draft for this evening. What were the draft strategies? I've paid zero attn to this game at all. You know I think I'm going to go in and draft later...too much going on.
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| | | 38 | Alex
ID: 8718115
Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 15:28
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Ref - Not sure what the correct strategies for the draft are, but most of the top players have been selling out.
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| | | 39 | TacoJohn
ID: 507502811
Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 16:34
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I'm really interested in what you guys think on this.
I'm torn between these 2 things:
1 - top players are selling out. this means they're in high demand.
2 - managers are getting incomplete roster due to running out of money. top players are going to get sold en masse on tuesday to free up funds.
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| | | 40 | Alex
ID: 8718115
Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 16:46
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One of the customer service people did acknowledge that there will be a price cap like in baseball...but they didn't say how high it would be.
I think people will generally tend to move toward players with better week 1 matchups and away from expensive players with tough matchups.
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| | | 41 | ESYVE
ID: 52714820
Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 21:23
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I just tried to draft at my scheduled time and was told all 12 of the players I tried to pick in the first round were "SOLD OUT"--my draft has come and gone, and I have no team. Anybody else have a similar problem?
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| | | 42 | Dave R
SuperDude
ID: 3010361110
Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 21:36
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Were you in Draft Room A @ 9? I was and what a mess, almost every pick I tried , I was told player not available.
I actually spent one round and went through the top 16 TE's and none were available. Impossible in a 12 team draft.
Obviously a screw up and I emailed them.
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| | | 43 | Dave R
SuperDude
ID: 3010361110
Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 22:21
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Got this response to my email:
During the RotoHog Draft this evening players were selling out prematurely, and you may have experienced other unexpected behavior related to this. These problems were caused by an incorrect allocation of player inventory to your draft room. This was an operator error on our part and we will be doing everything in our power to make sure it does not happen again.
Because of this problem, we have reset your draft status and you will be able to sign-up for another draft time. We sincerely apologize for the inconvenience, and welcome your feedback with regards to the situation.
We are discussing ways to amend the inconvenience we have caused. Please look for an email that will be sent within the hour.
If you have any questions about the draft or anything else, please let us know.
Regards,
The RotoHog Team
If anyone else had a problem this evening you may want to email them.
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| | | 44 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 22:42
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Haven't seen this mentioned before. It reflects a change from baseball:Transaction Fees: a $0.50 RotoHog dollar transaction fee is charged every time a manager buys or sells a player. Again, this is game money and no real money is charged. This fee will be displayed when you confirm your order.
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| | | 45 | Alex
ID: 8718115
Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 09:15
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Guru - I noticed that. I think it won't have a huge impact with games only once a week. If anything its going to hurt those who don't focus on building RV more than those who do.
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| | | 46 | TacoJohn
ID: 422551921
Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 18:07
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Hey guys, I posted up my best $1 players over at WeeklyProjections. I think the top 3 on my list (Crosby, Folk, Jacoby Jones) are must haves right now but all of them are pretty safe bets for gains.
It looks like there are some other cheapies between $2-$10 as well. My favorite right now is possibly Crayton at $8 assuming Glenn doesn't play Week 1.
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| | | 47 | GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 18:25
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When I did my draft, I got all 10 players that I had targeted.
By the end of the draft, 5 of the 10 had sold out.
Just seems to be the way it is running.
Cliff
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| | | 48 | donk44
ID: 42611019
Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 22:40
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Re:46
TJ - was looking for your $1 football picks and other bargains at weeklyprojections, but can't find them. could you direct me how to get there ? thank you sir.
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| | | 49 | Ender
ID: 5963859
Fri, Aug 31, 2007, 08:47
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Signed up for my draft this morning and have now been sitting here for 15 minutes and NOTHING has happened. I am beyond angry. I took extra time out of my morning for this and came in extra early. The practice drafts ran without a hitch.
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| | | 50 | Alex
ID: 8718115
Fri, Aug 31, 2007, 11:34
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Ender - Same thing happened to me. They offered to let me redraft, but I just went with the guys I got from my pre-ranking, since:
1. I'm pretty clueless about football and won't be taking it too seriously anyway.
2. I have no idea whether it would have worked any better the 2nd time.
3. All the draft really matters for in RH is increasing RV, and I think I got a reasonably ok roster (although not great) for that purpose.
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| | | 51 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Aug 31, 2007, 11:57
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You'd think that by Friday, they'd have worked out the kinks.
I'm drafting tomorrow. I think my pre-rankings should work out OK even if the interface craps out.
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| | | 52 | GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Fri, Aug 31, 2007, 12:19
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I believe the issue is a bandwidth issue.
They talk about it in the draft area.
Kind of glad I drafted as early as I did.
Cliff
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| | | 53 | TacoJohn
ID: 507502811
Fri, Aug 31, 2007, 13:47
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They really blew it with the drafts. Everyone had problems, and most new users won't understand that the draft is not such a big deal in RH. They're used to the draft being the most impt part of the year.
donk, the $1 picks are at the top right now on . Not sure why they wouldn't be showing up. WeeklyProjections.com. Email me if there's a problem.
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Aug 31, 2007, 17:13
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I am supposed to draft tonight, but I keep moving it back and will likely do it again.
I've done nothing. No pre-rankings. Nada. Baseball draft was a joke. I just want to go in there and pick players whose value will rise enough to make it worth it to sell later for a profit. I want to go in and start listing undervalued players so we can all try and nab. I see Tj has named three. Any others people have already found?
My guess is that I'll draft tomorrow afternoon if not tonight.
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| | | 55 | Crunch Bunch
ID: 3136114
Fri, Aug 31, 2007, 18:20
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I moved my draft back also to Sunday; might as well wait until the final cuts are made Saturday to get a a better idea of who won some of these position battles that are still up in the air.
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| | | 56 | donk44
ID: 42611019
Fri, Aug 31, 2007, 19:45
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A friend of mine tried drafting from work, and it wasn't working. he got a team anyway since he had pre-rankings set up. he told RH and they let him redraft, which he did last night. it worked fine from his home. he found out today that it was messing up at work because of a firewall. so if any of you are trying to draft from an office, and are having problems, a firewall could be the reason. ironically, my friend actually liked his pre-ranked draft over the one he did live. go figure.
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Sat, Sep 01, 2007, 11:33
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I'm looking at some of the prices and it seems like it's going to be tough to draft a team for $300 and have any semblance of points. I don't know where to start!
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Leader
ID: 049346417
Sat, Sep 01, 2007, 11:35
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Just had my draft, some of the "top 5" guys didn't sell out. I know Steve Smith didn't. I think Carson Palmer didn't sell out til pretty late in the draft.
Vincent Jackson sold out in round 6 or so, I was hoping to grab him.
Joe Nedney sold out for some reason
From what I remember (I can't see my roster for 30 minutes)
QB - Peyton Manning, David Garrard
RB - Tomlinson, Maroney, Jacobs
WR - Reggie Brown, Jacoby Jones, Demitrius Williams, Crayton (can you tell that I looked at TacoJohn's site?) :)
TE - Empty
K - Folk? I think
DEF - Empty
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Sat, Sep 01, 2007, 11:59
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I don't know how the cap will play out, but I think I'm purely going for undervalued players and as their price rises try and nab some studs. However, I think, like J, I'm going to have to get a couple studs to avoid them being sold out. This is going to take a lot of strategy with a TON of luck. G24 draft could be a big help as the guys I've studied for that seem to have some sleeper value here. But will they play and will they do anything? UGH.
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| | | 60 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sat, Sep 01, 2007, 12:01
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I'm gun-shy on Tomlinson. I think he could come under some selling pressure post-draft when:
- teams realize that they need to raise funds to fill a roster, and
- teams realize that S.D. opens against the Bears.
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Sat, Sep 01, 2007, 12:50
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My first thought after going through all the players for the first time is that they did a very good job on initial pricing.
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| | | 62 | TacoJohn
ID: 422551921
Sat, Sep 01, 2007, 13:07
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Anyone else happen to scroll down and check out the other Steven Jackson? He sold out in the first round in the draft I'm in right now.
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Sat, Sep 01, 2007, 14:09
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obvious confusion.
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| | | 64 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sat, Sep 01, 2007, 18:30
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I just finished my draft. It seemed to go pretty smoothly.
Here's the sellout tally at the end:
12 QB
15 RB
11 WR
2 TE
4 DEF
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| | | 65 | Doug
ID: 441251914
Sat, Sep 01, 2007, 18:48
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Here's who sold out in my draft... I think it's pretty accurate, one or two might be off a round... as well as who I took. I had a plan of the players I wanted in the draft and got all 10 of them.
I still have $105 left over to play with when the market opens to fill my final 3 slots... although I figure week 2 I'll be spending some of that cash to upgrade here and there... especially if some of the studs have a bad opening week and see their prices dive, etc.
For example, Lee Evans was someone I liked at his price who ended up selling out... but faces some really tough DBs in Denver week 1. If he has a bad first week, he could definitely sell off a bit since he's obviously a well-owned player at this point.
By round 4
I drafted Garrard, R. Bush, T. Bell, and Gates... wanted to get some solid RBs with favorable week 1 matchups who could outperform their price... Garrard should appreciate unless he turns into an INT-monster, but neither Tennessee or Atlanta in weeks 1 and 2 are generally considered "elite" against the pass. I knew Gates would sell out and just wanted to have him as a plug-n-play TE
QB - P. Manning, Brees, McNabb, Rivers
RB - ALL of the top 11 most expensive RBs, except Travis Henry
WR - Chad Johnson, Harrison, Wayne
TE - Gates
Round 5
Eli Manning - has a pretty decent schedule through week 7... could outperform his price
RB - McGahee
WR - T.O.
Round 6
Nick Folk - $1... probably the only sub-$10 starting kicker... unless Gramatica gets the nod, he'll be free $$$
QB - V Young, Palmer
RB - Brandon Jacobs
WR - TJ Housh, Andre Johnson, V Jackson
Round 7
Jacoby Jones - Seems there's a ton of cheap #2 WRs... figured I'd grab a few and see how they pan out... $1 tough to beat
QB - Schaub, Garrard, Brady
WR - S Holmes
D - Bears
Round 8
Demetrius Williams... another cheap WR at $5
RB - T Henry
Round 9
Pittsburgh D - Cleveland week 1 could give me points as well as a $$$ increase
QB - Romo, Leinart
WR - Reggie Brown
TE - Tony Gonzalez
D - Green Bay, San Diego, Baltimore
Round 10
Roydell Williams - It was him or Patrick Crayton or Dennis Northcutt. I went with the $1 player over the $8 players. *shrug*
QB - Eli Manning
RB - Jones-Drew
WR - Lee Evans
Overall I was surprised how many players sold out compared to what others in this thread seemed to experience.
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| | | 66 | Doug
ID: 441251914
Sat, Sep 01, 2007, 18:50
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Haha... looks like Guru and I were in the same draft. ;)
The only kink I noticed was the queue seemed completely useless... it only worked once or twice when I accidentally clicked on a player, but never when I actually tried to drag someone there or click on a player I wanted LOL. Didn't matter though, I just used the "draft player" button and deleted anyone who accidentally showed up in my queue.
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ID: 539581218
Sun, Sep 02, 2007, 00:43
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Managers are not required to field a full 10 player starting team if they think they can earn more points playing with a "light" team.
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Sun, Sep 02, 2007, 01:10
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Nice insight Doug.
So, if the Market opens Tuesday, there is only two days to get your lineup ready for week 1 before Thrusday's games. With all the sell-outs, I'm wondering by not getting some more studlier players we could be losing not only the week, but never able to get the true studs because of sell-outs. I mean, what good will the money be w/o some real point producers. I do think some will eb a forced sell with downward pressure, but then it will be a fight to get them from those making money and not all of them will be sold. With a 17 week season--there is a major dilemma here of how to proceed.
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ID: 42611019
Sun, Sep 02, 2007, 02:13
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stupid question - do you only need to put players from Thursday's Saints/Colts game in your lineup on that day, or do you have to set your whole lineup for the week by Thursday ??
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ID: 539581218
Sun, Sep 02, 2007, 02:43
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My understanding was that the players were locked from the first game through the last game, but I haven't read the rules carefully enough to find where it says that.
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Sun, Sep 02, 2007, 13:33
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Just did my draft. It went smoothly and simialr to Doug's draft--though a few differences. I was trying to cut and paste to help the future drafters tonight but it wouldn't let me.
I departed from my original idea and took Addai in the first and he quickly sold out. In the 4th I was thinking Colston and waited for about a minute before I took Roeth and may regret that. Colston sold out and I went with my three cheapie WRs. Will post more after my lineup page is posted and I can rememebr exactly who I took.
My thought is a lot of people didn't make the draft nor pre-ranked so all of teh high-prcied players would go first and those managers would have to sell them starting Tuesday. Albeit, didn't want to be shutout of any studly players at all.
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ID: 539581218
Sun, Sep 02, 2007, 17:27
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I'll try to get the order right...
I took
Addai
Jacobs
Garrard
T. Bell
R. White
Dem. Williams
Jac. Jones
Pitt Def
M Crosby
Strategy was a mixture of value players/studlier/matchups. I chose not to draft a TE, but I will likely have one on my roster for week 1.
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ID: 10742520
Sun, Sep 02, 2007, 18:47
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Just finished my draft - no problems, I took in order
Addai
Westbrook
Gates
Garrard
Big Ben
Andre Johnson
Santonio Holmes
Jacoby Jones
Folk
Crosby
$62 left over - Addai, LT and Sjax went out in 1st round; all the top RBs were gone early. Folk actually went out in last round so people paying attention.
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ID: 42611019
Sun, Sep 02, 2007, 18:50
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just finished my draft. didn't draft as many bargains as I had planned, but think I got some decent value.
steven jackson
marvin harrison
laurence maroney
brandon jacobs
vincent jackson
david garrard
alex smith
mason crosby
nick folk
javon walker
jackson, LT & addai sold out in the 1st round. I was going to take addai with my 2nd pick, but he was gone. no WR or QB sold out until round 3 I believe, so could have waited on harrison. about 10 RB's were sold out by the end of round 3. garrard sold out in round 6, which is the round I got him in. glad I clicked fast ! took alex smith for the week 1 matchup, and he actually did sell out in the 10th round. no kickers sold out, but took both $1 kickers to try to make some money. was planning on taking a cheap third WR in the last round, but had more money left than I had planned, so took the best available one left that fit in my budget. didn't draft a TE or a Def, but will deal with those after we see how the market goes on tuesday.
spent $296 out of the $300
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ID: 42611019
Sun, Sep 02, 2007, 21:08
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I'd be curious of any opinions anyone has of my draft (on post #74), especially since I haven't followed football in about 10 years, and didn't really know what I was doing. I did do 3 - 4 hours of research and prep work to get ready, but it's difficult when you have no "feel" for the players, like I do in baseball.
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