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Subject: RIFC 2007: Draft Rationales #2 (Round 7-12)


  Posted by: I_AM_CANADIAN - Donor [1361448] Mon, Aug 20, 2007, 22:12

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1I_AM_CANADIAN
      Donor
      ID: 1361448
      Mon, Aug 20, 2007, 22:13
7.01 Brian Urlacher, LB, CHI
4th IDP taken off the board… I appears Guru tried to start the run a little early after the best options on TeamD were depleted. But, we'll probably see a steady flow (5+ per round) till the end of the draft. Good IDPs can really solidify a lineup, when they perform consistently. I've had Urlacher on my team in the past, and seen him put up performances that were just amazing. I'm happy to have him as the anchor to my IDP.

Best Pick of Round 7: 7.11 Santonio Holmes
Stretch of Round 7: 7.14 Adrian Wilson
 
2The Beezer
      Dude
      ID: 191202817
      Mon, Aug 20, 2007, 22:19
7.02 Ladell Betts, RB, WSH

It's not often you find a healthy 28 year old RB coming off an 1150 yard campaign in the seventh round. Since my two starters have their bye weeks in weeks 9 and 10, I've pretty much got half the season to see if Betts emerges as the starter either by attrition or by achievement.

I pretty much view him in the same light as my Tatum Bell pick last year, except that was in the fifth round and Joe Gibbs isn't the Antichrist (and that's saying something coming from a Dallas fan).
 
3Smith32
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      ID: 139592519
      Mon, Aug 20, 2007, 22:47
7.03 Vernon Davis, TE, SFO

Now I had all my offensive starters in place except for TE. Like Calvin Johnson, this is another upside pick. My decision basically came down to Davis or Winslow. The thing that scared me away from Winslow is his knee. I know he is having a good camp and all, but he is just coming off micro-fracture surgery. Think Amare Stoudemire, Chris Webber, Hardaway... Don't be surprised if he can't make it through the season.

Back to Vernon Davis.
Davis, a tight end from Maryland, stands 6-3, weighs 254, bench-presses 460 and runs 40 yards in 4.38 seconds.

"He's a rare combination," Ravens director of college scouting Eric DeCosta says. "He has the size and explosion of a linebacker, but he's as athletic as a wide receiver. And his strength is like that of a top lineman."

All combine prospects see how many times they can bench-press 225 pounds. Davis notched 33 reps; 312-pound tackle D'Brickashaw Ferguson, the highest-rated offensive line prospect in this draft, scored 26.


The guy is a freak of nature. Whether his athletic ability translates into success on the field remains to be seen. Just in case it does, I want him on my team.
 
4Smith32
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      Mon, Aug 20, 2007, 22:49
7.04 Jerricho Cotchery, WR, NYJ

I was hoping to get Vernon Davis here, but holt snatched him up at 7.03. Rotoworld compared Cotchery to TJ Houshmandzadeh in terms of his role and development, which I think is a compliment to Cotchery. He quietly posted nearly 1,000 yds and 6 TDs last year, and the Jets gave him a nice contract extension. The Jets clearly aren't expecting a regression, and neither am I. The depth chart at CBS Sportsline shows Cotchery as the backup KR/PR behind guys that are injured, so I guess there's a possibility for some bonus points from return yards. He'll make a nice WR3 for my team.
 
5Bags
      ID: 2500120
      Mon, Aug 20, 2007, 22:57
7.05 LaMont Jordan, RB, OAK

Jordan looked really good on Saturday. Jordan will be the full time back for the first four weeks because of a suspension to Player X. I hope he can be a serviceable backup or spot starter for me.
 
6GoatLocker
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      Tue, Aug 21, 2007, 00:19
7.06 Brandon Jackson, RB, GB
Took a flier here, but wasn't really enthralled with the other choices on the RB side.
I sure know he was the lesser thought of as far as the top 3 Rookie RBs go, but has looked good in the preseason.
And one thing about GB, is that it is always hard to figure out what they are going to do.

Didn't want to wait too late to get a 3rd RB.
 
7Nerfherders
      ID: 64532914
      Tue, Aug 21, 2007, 01:23
for beastiemiked
7.07 AJ Hawk, LB, GB

Blah, I really hate this pick. There were better linebackers out there. Hawk should improve but I don't think it'll be enough to make him a top 5 fantasy producer at linebacker. Unless he returns 2 TD's this year I doubt I'll look back on this pick and be proud of it. Thought about Merriman but he's risky and I've already got two huge risks on my roster.

 
8Nerfherders
      ID: 64532914
      Tue, Aug 21, 2007, 01:26
7.8 LenDale White, RB TEN

I had an idea to take a third RB here when there was a possibility of taking a starter. White has not had a good training camp but I wont need him until week 6, barring an injury. High risk, high reward, but I think he was worth a pick here at 7th - possibly the last starting RB left on the board.
 
9Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Aug 21, 2007, 09:03
for Greybear
7.09 Bernard Berrian, WR, Chi

With only one WR on my roster so far, I thought it was high time for me to select another one even though I echo Guru's thoughts on depth at this position and finding good value later... and even on the waiver wire. Nevertheless, I need three starters for the beginning of the season. I was happy to see Berrian still on the board as I believe he is either a WR1 or WR1(a) or (b) playing with Muhammad on the other side of the field. Of the two, Berrian has more upside (IMHO). He is extremely talented and has the ability to get open deep on the field. His productivity dipped last year, mid-season, due to injury but I expect solid numbers from him this year. I have more concerns with whom is throwing him the ball than with his ability to catch it.

 
10Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Aug 21, 2007, 09:05
7.10 Terry Glenn, WR, Dal

When I went to bed last night (with 4 picks to go before mine), I had decided to get Brandon Jackson. So I wake up this morning, and find him on GoatLoacker’s roster. And I really don’t see any other RB that I want for a 7th round pick.

I still have only one WR. I’ve been willing to wait on those, as I think is some potential deeper on the list, and I’ve even had some waiver wire success there in past years (see Colston, Marcus). On the other hand, maybe I should start filling that hole, as I see that no other team has only one WR now.

Glenn is probably not a guy with a lot of upside vs. the last couple of years, but I hope he is someone I can comfortably plug in any week. Some have questioned whether his age (33) might start to be a problem, but I don’t think that’s really an issue yet. It is a bit bothersome that his productivity declined somewhat with Romo (vs. Bledsoe), but in a short exposure period, that can easily be a statistical aberration. He should continue to get plenty of looks – he averaged almost 8 catches per game last year, and only once had as few as 5 – giving ample opportunities to break off big plays.
 
11youngroman
      ID: 2934823
      Tue, Aug 21, 2007, 10:27
7.11 Santonio Holmes, WR, PIT
looking at the talent available (and my needs), this pick was either WR or LB with a slight chance for a backup-RB. the pool at LB is still large enough and the dropoff not that huge that WR was the choice here.

I had targeted Glenn or Holmes here. Guru picked Glenn so no decision had to be made.

Holmes only started 3 games last season and still managed 824 yards. impressive for a non-starting rookie. This year he will start from week 1 and if he puts up slightly better numbers (1000+ yards, 7TD) he is worth the pick because of these stats alone. There is even the chance that he may return some punts or kicks (like last year) that would add some additional points too.

as planned, 7 rounds are over and my offensive core is complete. now it is time to decide: defensive strength or backups.

 
12Slackjawed Yokel
      ID: 599142218
      Tue, Aug 21, 2007, 10:45
for leggestand
7.12 Leon Washington, RM , NYJ

As with my 5.12 rationale on Tatum Bell, I still feel like I need some depth at RB because I don't think I have a stellar core. I was hoping Brandon Jackson or LaMont Jordan were going to fall to me, but they didn't and I had to settle for a back up that should get plenty of touches. Plus, Thomas Jones is already dinged up, and there was a report the other day that speculated he may have an Achilles strain. An Achilles strain may not be the end of the world, but I imagine that it is an important tendon and could lead to other injuries down the road for Jones when you try and overcompensate for the pain. Overall, I am hoping for 15 touches a game for Leon Washington, which seems reasonable. On the bright side, I feel like I don't need any more RB's, as at least two of my four should pan out.

The negative about this pick is that going for 4 RB's in 7 rounds has made me forfeit some of my "peripheral positions" (Team D and TE). I just can't afford to take any of the top players/teams at those positions because I have focused on RB depth. Hopefully that won't come back to bite me.

Best 7th Round Value: Brandon Jackson/LaMont Jordan at 7.06/7.05
Biggest 7th Round Reach: LenDale White at 7.08

 
13Slackjawed Yokel
      ID: 599142218
      Tue, Aug 21, 2007, 10:46
7.13 Zach Thomas, LB, Mia

I was planning on getting a RB here, but just couldn't pull the trigger looking at who was available. (I had debated picking Brandon Jackson in my last set of picks, and he fell pretty far, but not the 25 picks I needed...). I briefly looked at wideouts too, but didn't see anything there either. It's starting to get tough to find value and to not feel like you're reaching in these middle round picks. I decided then to go for a top linebacker in Zach Thomas.
 
14s R
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      Tue, Aug 21, 2007, 12:38
All of my target WR&TE went a few picks ahead of me, so I was opening my IDP box:
7.14 Adrian Wilson, DB, Ari
He is usually good for around 100 total tackles, multiple sacks and interceptions, plenty of passes defensed, a few forced fumbles and the occasional touchdown. He was my No. 1 option at DB.

8.01 Shawne Merriman, LB, SD
Maybe the league's hardest hitter and also piles up tackles and other stats. The last member in my STUD tier of LB's.
 
15Slackjawed Yokel
      ID: 599142218
      Tue, Aug 21, 2007, 13:23
8.02 Kellen Winslow, Jr., TE, Cle

Remember in 'Airplane' when they were trying to figure out what everyone had eaten, saying the only two choices had been chicken or fish? Leslie Nielsen responded, oh, yeah, I had the lasagna. Well, I still couldn't bring myself to pick any of the WR or RB (fish or chicken) out there - particularly at WR someone to put in the lineup every week. I saw Winslow as the only top TE left (if he's healthy), and realized with the new flexiblity of being able to start two TE's, that I could indeed pick lasagna.
 
16leggestand
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      Tue, Aug 21, 2007, 13:36
8.03 Antonio Pierce, LB, NYG

Not much to say here. I needed to grab a LB before a major run started, so, I grabbed my favorite. I always have liked Pierce as he seems to always be around the ball. In addition, he was a top 10 LB last year with very minimal peripherals (1 sack and 1 INT). If he can even just slightly up the sack and INT numbers, he could vault into top 5 in the position.

Best 8th Round Value: Shawne Merriman at 8.01
Biggest 8th Round Reach: Ben Roethlisberger at 8.06
 
17youngroman
      ID: 3751268
      Tue, Aug 21, 2007, 14:13
8.04 Will Witherspoon, LB, STL
it was time to grab my 1st IDP. at LB I thought about Witherspoon and Brooking, at DL about Taylor and at DB at McGee. McGee is only valuable because of his return-duties but I wanted a tackler here. it may not be the time for Taylor yet. I don't think that he will be still out there when my next pick is up, but who knows.

so it was down to Witherspoon. he plays MLB in a not much changed STL defense and is one of the few players that will have over 100 solo tackles this year. that is what you want with your #1 linebacker.

I am now crossing my fingers for the unlikely event that Jason P Taylor makes it back to me.
 
18Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Aug 21, 2007, 14:25
8.05 Terrence McGee, DB, Buf

For two years in a row, I’ve had the top producer at DB. Two years ago, it was McGee. Last year, it was Pacman Jones (with McGee ranking 2nd in pts/game). This year, I think McGee returns to the top of the list. (Pacman certainly won’t repeat.)

McGee, of course, benefits from returning kicks for the Bills. Last year, he had 1355 KR yards (about the same as the prior year), but no return TDs. If I assume similar yardage again this year, still no TDs, and add in projected points for his work as a DB, I end up with projected points that eclipse those for the top “regular” DB (who was just drafted a few picks ago) by almost a point per game..

Of some concern is that, as Buffalo’s #1 CB this year, he might get thrown toward less often. Then again, this is only Terrence McGee, who shouldn’t really strike fear into any QB.

 
21Greybear
      ID: 43710116
      Tue, Aug 21, 2007, 16:02
8.06 Ben Roethlisberger, QB, PIT

After having Peyton Manning last year, I can say that I was not thrilled at picking any other QB this year, thus I waited, and waited, and waited some more. I figured that with only two more managers without QBs - I should probably get a move on before I end up another tier down quality wise. Based on who was left, it was Big Ben, Leinart or (undrafted). I don't want the other guy so its Ben vs. Matt. I decided that I really didn't have to make a choice and went for both of them (see pick 9.09). Since I don't have what you would call a top quality QB, I'll just play a QBBC according to SOS. Roethlisberger has had plenty of time to mend his wounds and learn the offence. With targets such as Ward and Holmes, I expect he will be able to put up acceptable numbers.
 
22GoatLocker
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      Tue, Aug 21, 2007, 16:35
for Nerfherders
8.07 Lance Briggs, LB, CHI

The LB run had started and my favorite was already gone so I decided on Briggs here, a rising star who actually scored better than his teammate Urlacher last year. He's a ball hawk and makes alot of tackles, which you dont often see out of OLB's. This continues my run of solid if unspectacular players.

 
23GoatLocker
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      Tue, Aug 21, 2007, 16:35
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8.08 Chargers, DEF, SD

I never pick defense this early but decided to stray from that this year. I see the Chargers as the clear #3 fantasy defense. I thought about waiting but figured they'd be gone by next round. Also, was a little worried that there'd be a mini defense run which I was wrong about. Patriots were my next choice at defense. Thought about a slew of other options including another linebacker and a few scrub WR's.

 
24GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 060151121
      Tue, Aug 21, 2007, 16:39
8.09 Mike Peterson, LB, JAX
Was time to take my first IDP.
I like Peterson as an integral part of the JAX Defense and expect him to have the same # of tackles if not even more than last year.
Should be a nice solid choice at this point in the draft.
 
25Smith32
      ID: 2103514
      Tue, Aug 21, 2007, 17:10
for Bags
8.10 Jason Witten, TE, DAL

I needed a TE badly. In the AAA RIFC last year, I waited until the 18th round for a TE (Wiggins). Ouch! I didn’t want to let that happen this year. I thought that Witten would be one of the last solid TE’s taken. I wanted one of the top five but was a little surprised at how early they went. I am happy with this consolation prize. Go Cowboy’s!
 
26Smith32
      ID: 2103514
      Tue, Aug 21, 2007, 17:13
8.11 Ray Lewis, LB, BAL

I wanted to go LB here because the run was starting and I thought my offense was in pretty good shape. I debated between Lewis and Tatupu, and ultimately got Tatupu in Rd 9 anyway. My main concern is Lewis's health. He could very well be on the decline. But supposedly he got some new workout regimen and is in excellent shape. The potential rewards from a healthy Lewis make the risk worthwhile at this point in the draft.
 
27I_AM_CANADIAN
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      ID: 1361448
      Tue, Aug 21, 2007, 18:59
for Holt
8.12 Chester Taylor RB MIN

I'm well aware of A.P., but at this point in time Taylor is still the starter. I expect the Vikings to use Peterson as a change of pace back for a while. Taylor is the veteran and he'll get his carries. There was no one else to consider here other than maybe an IDP, and you can't go into the season with only 2 rb's.

 
28I_AM_CANADIAN
      Donor
      ID: 1361448
      Tue, Aug 21, 2007, 18:59
for Beezer
8.13 – D.J. Hackett, WR, Sea

I’m still not feeling horribly compelled to dive into the well at QB, IDP, or DT yet, so I’m going to continue to stockpile wide receivers since I’m historically lousy at predicting WR performance outside of the top 5 or so. I wouldn’t normally pull the trigger on Hackett this early except that with all the hype he’s been getting at FBG and in other quarters, I’m concerned he won’t make it back around. Everyone else on my radar I’m more comfortable in waiting on.

I’m figuring I’ll add another WR with my next pick, then start addressing IDP and whatever this “QB” thing is.

 
29I_AM_CANADIAN
      Donor
      ID: 1361448
      Tue, Aug 21, 2007, 19:00
8.14 Greg Jennings, WR, GB
I had A LOT of other players targeted here, including: Roethlisberger, Winslow, McGee, Ray Lewis… but so is Fantasy. After re-evaluating my team, I wanted to get in my last starter WR before looking into IDP some more. Jennings started off great last year, but was slowed down by injuries. I'm hoping that he's able to get back into the groove he had, and with Favre throwing... he should see lots of targets.

Best Pick of Round 8: 8.06 Roethlisberger
Stretch of Round 8: 8.12 Chester Taylor
 
30I_AM_CANADIAN
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      ID: 1361448
      Tue, Aug 21, 2007, 19:01
9.01 DeShaun Foster, RB, CAR
The first manager to get an RB4 was one of the last to get an RB2? Well… it makes sense to me. If for nothing else, maybe Foster will be a) A good insurance policy or b) Trade bait for someone who really should have secured this starting RB before the 9th round. Many people feel that DeAngelo should be the back of the future for the Panthers, but as of right now, he hasn't proven himself enough to take the job from Foster. At pick #113, and RB39 taken off the board... certainly not my favorite pick, but at least I won't be telling myself that I don't have enough RB depth.

Best Pick of Round 9: 9.10 Henderson
Stretch of Round 9: 9.08 Mike Furrey
 
31Smith32
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      ID: 139592519
      Tue, Aug 21, 2007, 20:37
for Beezer
9.02 Muhsin Muhammad, WR, CHI

I just don’t see anyone going for a backup QB at this point, and I think even if 1-2 go off the board, the guy I’m eyeing will still be there at my next pick. No need for another backup RB at this point, and the IDP pool still looks deep to me.

I don’t thing MM will make it back to me if I don’t take him now, so he becomes the first returning member of the championship team from last season. While he’s in many ways the opposite of my D.J. Hackett pick, I feel pretty comfortable that he will be a consistent 7-8 FP/G producer.

 
32Smith32
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      ID: 139592519
      Tue, Aug 21, 2007, 20:37
for holt
9.03 New England Patriots

You have to consider NE to be one of top 3 or 4 defenses. With well over a dozen IDP's already off the board I figured I may as well take a top defense instead. I hate New England, and I'm not looking forward to rooting for them, but ya gotta do what ya gotta do. : (
 
33Smith32
      Sustainer
      ID: 139592519
      Tue, Aug 21, 2007, 20:41
9.04 Lofa Tatupu, LB, SEA

As I mentioned in my 8.11 rationale, I considered taking Lofa in Rd 8 and was happy to see him go undrafted around the turn. Tatupu is a solid performer who racks up a lot of tackles. He did well on my team last year, and at age 24, I don't see any reason he shouldn't match or exceed last year's numbers. 100 solo tackles is a possibility.
 
34Bags
      ID: 2500120
      Tue, Aug 21, 2007, 20:50
9.05 Devin Hester, WR, CHI

This was a hard pick. It was between Hester and Devery Henderson. Both players have big play potential. I thought with CHI trying to get Hester more involved on offence this year he had a better chance for more points
 
35Nerfherders
      ID: 64532914
      Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 00:58
for Goatlocker
9.6 Randy McMichael, TE, STL
Made the pick and was immediately sorry.
Really should have taken Witten before he went off the board, but talked myself out of it.
I like the move to STL on one hand, but on the other hand, they sure have a lot of targets.

Guess I could have done worse, so just need to cross my fingers and hope with this one.

 
36Nerfherders
      ID: 64532914
      Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 00:58
for beastiemiked
9.07 Keith Brooking, LB, Atl

Another pick where I wasn't exactly happy after making it. I was going to pull the trigger on Ronde Barber but figured I needed another top tier LB. Brooking is very consistent though he doesn't get enough of the bonus points, ints and fumbles, that other LB's get. He's another guy that I figured would provide me with solid points week in and week out rather than one huge week followed by 2 mediocre weeks.

 
37Nerfherders
      ID: 64532914
      Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 01:03
9.08 Mike Furrey, WR DET

I was looking for a 3rd WR and I didnt see alot of great options. Furrey stood out to me with his 98 catches last year, and even though he will be relgated to 3rd WR with Detroit I think that he will still get alot of looks, as its obvious Kitna likes him. I've never had alot of luck with WR so I could be way off, but I'll take a chance on him.
 
38Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 08:58
for Greybear
9.09 Jerry Porter, WR, Oak

I chose to round out my starting WRs at this spot as I thought the available selections were getting thin with no. 1 WRs. So I chose Porter as he is first on Oakland's depth chart. He is a talented receiver who has not lived up to his potential as of yet. He spent some time on the bench last year and had some personality problems with the team's coach. This problem is now solved, so he has no excuses not to reach his full potential this year. Being the clear no. 1, he should be getting a lot of targets and put up decent numbers as my no. 3 WR.

 
39Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 08:59
9.10 Devery Henderson, WR, NO

Still filling out my receiving corps, and Henderson seems like a good choice for WR3. He ranked in the top 30 of WR last year in average fantasy pts per game, and should get more looks this year as the presumed opening day starter opposite Colston. A big play receiver. He filled in very nicely on my RIFC roster last year when Colston was hurt, which put him on my radar for this year. Now’s the time.

There are a few issues as well. Down with a hamstring injury in preseason, although that does not appear likely to impact his availability for opening day. Has dropped more passes than average, and that might open the door for someone to take his place if it manifests in the early going.

All in all, a good gambit for my third receiver with pick 122.
 
40leggestand
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      ID: 451036518
      Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 09:56
for youngroman
9.11 Jason P Taylor, DL, MIA

Welcome back Jason! I wanted him 21 picks ago but thought I could wait and it worked. lucky me gets the best defense lineman in our scoring format in the 9th round. he can be a monster and can put up 20 points in any given week. in such weeks he will be the difference if I am winning or losing.

 
41leggestand
      Leader
      ID: 451036518
      Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 10:01
9.12 Chris Hope, DB, TEN

I had Hope as my #2 rated DB behind McGee. I also have him projected out to score more points than any of the available LB's. Last year, he scored 142 points in our system (#4 DB), and with PacMan out (I feel I can mention his name even though he is undrafted), I expect more tackles given the weakened secondary. I also debated on Kerry Rhodes here because of his consistancy, but settled on Hope as I think he could be the top DB by seasons end.

Biggest 9th Round Value: Patriots at 9.03
Biggest 9th Round Stretch: Furrey at 9.08
 
42Slackjawed Yokel
      ID: 599142218
      Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 10:21
9.13 Donnie Edwards, LB, SD

Preparing for this pick (with two picks till mine), I was surprised by the wealth of options out there. I narrowed it down to four primary choices, and starting checking the draft grid to see what positions were being filled only to see that 3 of my 4 had already been picked, and I missed them on my cheat sheets - d'oh. The lone remaining option was Edwards, so I was just glad he didn't go in the interim.
 
43s R
      ID: 861898
      Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 11:24
With the 3rd (Brady) pick, my draft strategy crashed over, since then I'm looking for the way out:
9.14 Kirk Morrison, LB, OAK
Morrison has been a standout LB. Strong and consistent. That is, what I need!

10.01 Troy Williamson, WR, MIN
Somebody has to catch passes in Minnesota and Williamson could be that guy. He is the No. 1 wideout since they have no other reliable options.
Similarly my team.
 
44Slackjawed Yokel
      ID: 599142218
      Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 11:47
10.02 Drew Bennett, WR, StL

biting the bullet here and taking my third wideout. There were four running backs that I see as having similar value. Chances are one or more of those might make it back to me. [it turns out two of them did...] Bennett will be in a decent situation in StL with more of a passing game than he has seen the past couple of seasons, so maybe he'll revert back to his 1000+ yard season. Trying to justify this pick, I noticed his bye week lined up advantageously with my other WR and TE's (for what that's worth).
 
45leggestand
      Leader
      ID: 451036518
      Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 11:55
10.03 Kevin Curtis, WR, PHI

Time to get my 3rd WR. I still think there are a lot of similar guys out there, but I just couldn't keep waiting and waiting, so, I went with who I thought would have the best year. The Eagles paid Curtis a ton of money to be WR2 opposite of Reggie Brown. The Eagles always seem to have a good offense for fantasy purposes, and for the past few years, their QB, RB, WR1, and WR2 have been solid contributors to fantasy teams around the world. I expect Curtis to contribute well to my team, and to be a nice deep threat similar to Donte Stallworth last year. Overall, I am very happy with this pick.

Biggest 10th Round Steal: Drew Bennett at 10.02
Biggest 10th Round Stretch: Jay Cutler at 10.14
 
46youngroman
      ID: 3751268
      Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 13:44
10.04 Ronde Barber, DB, TB
Ronde Barber is Mr. consistency. his tackle totals for the last 4 seasons are: 81, 84, 83, 86. he is in line to achieve the 80+ mark for the 5th time in a row. add the occasional sack and some interceptions and you get the best individual defense player available.
 
47Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 13:50
10.05 Kerry Rhodes, DB, NYJ

I would have taken Jason Taylor if he had still been available. I thought about Taylor in round #9, but with two of the intervening teams still short a starting WR, I figured I’d better get my target WR3 nailed down first.

I don’t see any other DL that warrants a 10th rounder. I don’t see any backup RBs with enough potential to outrank some of my remaining starter openings. No reason to rush into a 4th WR. A backup QB is a possibility but I think I’ll wait; McNabb will be my guy as long as he’s healthy,... but there’s the rub.

I’ve had pretty good success in past RIFC’s at IDP, even though I’ll admit I have to rely more on published analysis for IDPs than for offensive players. Maybe that explains my success – no inherent bias to overcome.

Anyway, the two primary resources that I have come to rely for IDP both tout Rhodes as the #2 DB behind Adrian Wilson. I have one DB already (McGee), but I like to have a pair to preserve positional flexibility, even though LBs tend to outproduce DBs. And at this point, I have Rhodes projected better than any of the available LBs anyway.

I like RotoWire’s comment (not one of my preferred IDP resources, but one I do review): “Rhodes might be better in the fantasy world than on the field.”
 
48Greybear
      ID: 353551013
      Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 13:59
10.06 Matt Leinart, QB ARI

Most of my logic was explained with my Ben Roethlisberger pick. Every manager after me had selected a solid QB in earlier rounds, so I knew that Leinart would get back to me after my 9.09 pick. I picked him to be the second member of my QBBC because of the talent surrounding him. Logically, if Boldin and Fitzgerald are ranked in the top 10 WRs, someone has to be getting them the ball. He did not play a full year last year, so he may not be totally well versed in the offence. However, his strenght of schedule ranks in the top 5 easiest, and he will be a great reliever / or starter, opposite Roethlisberger.

 
49Nerfherders
      ID: 501035289
      Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 15:10
10.7 Champ Bailey, DB DEN

Here is the odd thing about CB's in fantasy football. The really good CB's arent good in fantasy because very few balls go their way. Bailey is easily the best shutdown corner in football, and the crazy thing is that he still has the numbers to back it up! He was top 3 in scoring among DB's who didn't return kicks last year. He's a game changer on the field, and hopefully he continues to get just enough throws to be that in fantasy as well.
 
50The Beezer
      Dude
      ID: 191202817
      Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 20:28
for bmd
10.08 Isaac Bruce, WR, Stl

I had been eyeing Bruce for about a round or 2. He's one of those old vets that seems like they've been in the league for 20 years. He consistently puts up above average numbers and has been relatively healthy over the past few years. The influx of receivers in St. Louis will hurt his numbers but he'll still put up 800+ yards and 4-5 TD's. Almost picked Warrick Dunn here but decided I needed to fill my WR void.

 
51The Beezer
      Dude
      ID: 191202817
      Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 20:29
for GoatLocker
10.9 Nick Barnett, LB, GB
I really like the way GB uses him in lining him up any where and every where.
He also has a tendency to be a great ball hawk and expect a good number of tackles.
Won't have a lot of sacks, but didn't draft him for those. Sure fit in just fine.
 
52The Beezer
      Dude
      ID: 191202817
      Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 20:29
for Bags
10.10 DeMarcus Ware, LB, DAL

This is a Homer pick. I might have a man crush on this guy. He is right there on talent level with Merriman. With Wade Philips running a more aggressive style of defense Ware could lead the league in sacks. Ware will put up a few dud games but with his huge big play capability he should be a difference maker for me on defense.

 
53The Beezer
      Dude
      ID: 191202817
      Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 20:30
for Smith32
10.11 Ben Watson, TE, NWE

Watson and LJ Smith were the last 2 TEs on my sheet before it gets pretty ugly. And it got ugly in another league where my starting TE has yet to be drafted in this league. LJ is a pretty big '?' injury-wise, so it was time to lock-up Watson. I decided to take him in Rd 10 in fear that I_A_C would take him on the turn.

I don't really know what to expect from Watson. The Patriots offense is vastly different from last year, so it is hard to say. Watson seems to be a good athlete, and the way Brady spreads it around, I think Watson will get enough points to trail the Tier II TEs by less than a point per week.

 
54The Beezer
      Dude
      ID: 191202817
      Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 20:30
for holt
10.12 Warrick Dunn RB ATL

Dunn will be the starting RB again this year. That in itself is enough to warrant spending a 10th rd pick on him. Reports say he's looking great in training camp. He will of course split carries with Norwood, but still, there's a good chance he'll pile up over 1000 yds again. For as little as I'm hoping to need him, that's fine by me.

 
55The Beezer
      Dude
      ID: 191202817
      Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 20:31
10.13 – Brett Favre, QB, GB

I’ve penciled in Favre in this slot since Rivers went off the board. I wouldn’t have minded getting a QB much earlier, but it seemed that the good value always went off the board before my pick came up. With the backup QB run cranking up and IAC also needing a starter, I didn’t feel comfortable waiting any longer to grab him.

Favre’s durability and ability to rise to the occasion are legendary. After the disappointment of last season, I think that both he and Green Bay will rebound and play a lot better to send him off properly. Unlike my QB that I’ve had the past two years in this format, I don’t expect him to be in a jail cell when the playoffs start.
 
56I_AM_CANADIAN
      Donor
      ID: 1361448
      Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 20:32
10.14 Jay Cutler, QB, DEN
Ho hum, Ho hum… do I really got to take a QB? ;) Well… as far as positives go, Denver has improved their running game with the addition of Travis Henry. Also, in limited play last year, Cuttler managed to avg 12.4fp/game (12th). True, it's a small sample size, but hopefully with more time to develop, and maybe even a better offense, he can improve on those #s. Last year, I also held off till late in drafting my QB, and that came back to bite me, as "undrafted" proceeded to miss a whole lot of time with a concussion. At least Cutler wouldn't seem to have the same risk factor as an "aged" veteran.

Best Pick of Round 10: 10.12 Warrick Dunn
Stretch of Round 10: 10.02 Drew Bennett
 
57I_AM_CANADIAN
      Donor
      ID: 1361448
      Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 20:33
11.01 Wes Welker, WR, NE
I had to do a little double checking, as I thought maybe he was already drafted... but nope, I must have been thinking of Hester back in the 9th round. Last year, Welker went in the 8th round, and proceeded to put up #s that ranked him 14th in our league. Now in NE, it's a little "unknown" how Belichick will use him. Reports out of NE seem to suggest that he'll be frequently target by Brady out of the slot. The real question, is how much work he'll see in the return game. That puts him as a relatively high risk pick, but the upside is pretty high as well.

Best Pick of Round 11: 11.05 Dallas Cowboys
Stretch of Round 11: 11.08 Jared Allen
 
58The Beezer
      Dude
      ID: 191202817
      Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 20:50
11.02 – Sean Jones, CB, CLE

Time to plunge into the IDP pool. I’ve never been one to spend early draft picks on IDPs as I’ve always had a lot of confidence in my ability to spot good sleepers and get them cheap while stockpiling positions I’m not so good at evaluating. Since I don’t see any real value jumping out at me at any other positions, it was time to start grabbing guys.

My first IDP is not much of a sleeper. I picked up Jones last year after my previous DB went down with a torn ACL, and he rewarded me with a great season. Since I had him at #2 on my DB board and a fair amount ahead of those behind him, I was very pleased to welcome him back to my squad. He should have plenty of opportunities to tackles tired running backs after the front seven has been shredded, just like last year.
 
59Smith32
      Sustainer
      ID: 139592519
      Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 21:45
for holt
11.03 Troy Polumalu, DB, PIT

Along with being a Rams fan I'm also a Steelers fan, so this is a homer pick. I believe Polamalu is one of the best defensive players in the game, but obviously that doesn't always translate into great fantasy points. His fantasy scoring was equally bad to Roy Williams' last season (about 6 pts a game).

What I should have done is taken Ted Ginn. Even though this was my first IDP of the draft, it was still a stupid decision to take one here. I could get a similar level of production off the waiver wire. I usually don't take defensive players when there is what I consider to be quality offense available, but I sure screwed this one up.

 
60Smith32
      Sustainer
      ID: 139592519
      Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 22:00
11.04 Eli Manning, QB, NYG

This will be more of a "rant"-ionale. I don't like Eli. He just has a look on his face like the kid in Little League that is only there because his dad told him he had to play. And Archie's whole "my son is too good to play for that crappy team (San Diego)" is now as laughable as Bud Selig trying to contract the Twins because they "couldn't compete". In hindsight, the Chargers were too good to be saddled with a QB like Eli.

Oh wait, I picked this guy. Well, somehow, and I have no idea how, only 3 QBs threw more TD passes than Eli last year. Like the TE position, it gets pretty scary in the next tier, and Eli's schedule is favorable when Romo has his bye and plays CHI and NWE, which is the primary reason I picked him. And the Giants are going to suck this year, so I think Eli is going to be forced to throw the ball around like Jon Kitna. If Romo gets hurt or doesn't pan out, I think Eli can score enough pts to give me a chance.
 
61Nerfherders
      ID: 501035289
      Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 12:22
for Bags
11.05 Dallas Cowboys, DEF, DAL

This is another Homer pick. I kept reading in Guru’s rationales where he thought about picking a player and decided he could wait, only to see the player go before they made it back to him. I didn’t want to miss out on my team. They probably would not have made it back to me. Bonus for making I_A_C’s 11th round value list.

 
62Nerfherders
      ID: 501035289
      Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 12:22
for GoatLocker
11.06 Roy Williams, DB, DAL
Like the difference Wade Phillips will bring to the Dallas Defense.
Believe this will only benefit Roy Williams.
And, I expect him to better his 2005 numbers.
77 tackles, 2.5 sacks, 1 FR, 3 INT, 1 TD

Just finding his own at 27 and should do well at the DB slot.

 
63Nerfherders
      ID: 501035289
      Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 12:22
for bmd
11.07 Chris Henry, RB, TEN

Henry was one of the backs vying for the starting RB role for Tennessee. It doesn't look like he'll win the job now but when I selected him he was still in contention. He has the most potential of any of the backs for the Titans so I imagine he'll get carries and maybe win the job down the road. I just hope I don't have injuries and am forced to drop him before he gets a chance to shine.

 
64Nerfherders
      ID: 501035289
      Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 12:27
11.08 Jared Allen, DL KC

He was the second highest scoring DL last year and was about as good as any other IDP on the list. He gets most of his points via tackles which means he will be more consistent than many of his fellow DL's. He will be serving a 2-game suspension at the beginning of the season, and I admit that I forgot about this when drafting him. However, it will be only 2 games and I can find a fill-in easy enough. Last season I used my backup DL almost the entire season and he was the last player I picked in the draft.
 
65Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 12:51
for Greybear
11.09 L.J. Smith, TE, Phi

I had targeted Randy McMichael at this position and was disappointed when I saw him come off the board at 9.06, which I thought might be a bit early for him, although I do believe he will put up solid numbers with his move to St. Louis. With only three teams without a TE, I thought I should make my selection before I have to go digging around for someone yet another tier down. With 56 receptions, 657 yards and 5 TDs last year, I am expecting similar – if not better – numbers this year. McNabb is healthy, which should help matters plus if L.J. can fix his case of the dropsies (at 5 years in the league this should definitely be a point that he can improve), L.J. could definitely improve his production to be closer to a top 5 TE this year, instead of a top 10 guy.
 
66Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 12:53
11.10 Carolina defense

Last year, the Panthers were widely considered one of the top defenses in preseason rankings. Didn’t work out that way. They were also the first defense drafted in last year’s RIFC. Fortunately, I took Baltimore in round 13 (the eighth defense drafted), and then San Diego in round 22. They ended up ranked #1 and #4 using our scoring format. I wish I could tell you I had that all figured out in advance. But I simply went with the best available at the time, and lucked out.

This year, I was hoping to score one of the top 2 defenses (Balt or Chi), in spite of last season’s lesson about Carolina. But, ‘twas not to be. Five defenses have been taken so far. It’s not lucky round #13 yet, but I’m getting an itch to take a defense.

If Baltimore turned out to be last year’s Carolina, maybe Carolina can be this year’s Baltimore. Aside from that logic, I like the looks of most of their schedule this year. There are a few weeks that look troublesome, but I think I can find another defense later in the draft to fill in those weak spots.
 
67youngroman
      ID: 3751268
      Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 13:46
11.11 Jonathan Vilma, LB, NYJ
like last year I try to draft good IDPs to dominate at this position during the regular season. the best IDPs are middle linebackers and so is Vilma. he was on top of my IDP-list and that got him a contract with my team. I hope he satisfies my expectation of around 8 points per game.
 
68leggestand
      Leader
      ID: 451036518
      Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 14:04
11.12 Pittsburgh Defense

I have been targeting the Steelers for a while now and wanted to see 5-7 defenses go off the board before I took them. They may have lasted a little bit longer to me, but they are a defense I think highly of and would take early.

Why the Steelers? Well, they are consistently a Top 10 defense, and the best part of finishing 3rd in your division? You get a pretty weak schedule, including: Browns, Bills, Niners, Cardinals, Browns (again), Jets, and Dolphins. Another plus is that, of their two games, they play the best team in their division (Ravens) in Week 17, which is nice. I exp[ect 10-15 points per game from this unit throughout the season.

Best Round 11 Pick: Chris Brown at 11.13
Biggest Round 11 Reach: Jared Allen at 11.08
 
69Slackjawed Yokel
      ID: 599142218
      Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 14:32
11.13 Chris Brown, RB, Ten

My first backup rb - I couldn't put it off any longer. Needless to say, I'm not particularly enthralled with this pick, but, still, I was panicking that he wouldn't drop to me. Latest news out of Tennessee is that he may be the starter, but this is probably just a ploy to light a fire under Lendale White. I guess he's worth a chance here....
 
70s R
      ID: 861898
      Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 14:56
11.14 Mike Bell, RB, Den
It's simple: I need the backup for Henry.

12.01 Aaron Kampman, DL, GB
Kampman is one of the best fantasy defensive linemen. He'll deliver big in tackle totals and sacks.
 
71Slackjawed Yokel
      ID: 599142218
      Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 15:10
12.02 Michael Turner, Rb, SD

Ok, my theory with this pick was that I wasn't going to win this league with a DB or team defense pick in the 12th round, but I might lose it if I was stuck without a running back. So, for my second consecutive backup running back pick, I chose the best backup running back in the league. This way I'm not stuck without a back in week 4, and should be positioned well for injuries - and, of course, this pick could be huge should another team be able to coax the Chargers to trade Turner.

 
72leggestand
      Leader
      ID: 451036518
      Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 15:19
12.03 Ted Ginn Jr, WR, MIA

I had been looking at Ginn for a while. Wes Welker was a great fantasy WR last year as the Dolphins WR3 and return man. Ginn was drafted by the Dolphins to fill Welker's shoes (and then some). If he can catch 2-3 passes a game plus by the Dolphins KR and PR, which I believe he will be, (with his speed, it'd be dumb of the Dolphins not to use him there), then I believe this to be a steal of a pick. Unfortunately, this pick does give me two Dolphin WR's, which I am none to thrilled about.

Best 12th Round Value: Brandon jones at 12.12
Biggest 12th Round Reach: Andra Davis at 12.13
 
73youngroman
      ID: 3751268
      Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 15:32
12.04 Gary Brackett, LB, IND
call me crazy for taking another IDP without having depth at RB and WR but thats what I just did. looking through all the talent available and their bye-weeks there were only a few middle-linebackers left that don't have a bye in week 9 and 10 where I already have 2 IDPs each. thats the main reason why I signed Brackett.
a good thing of having bye-week problems late (weeks 8-10) is that I have lots of time to find the best replacement.
 
74Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 16:13
12.05 Adrian Peterson RB, Chi

My “real” job was as an actuary, and I still have risk management blood coursing through my veins. So when I drafted Cedric Benson in round 2, I decided I really had to get Peterson as a handcuff. Maybe the 12th round is too soon. In past years, I’ve been burned a few times by waiting too long and having my handcuff snatched in front of me. I really don’t see any other available name on the board that offers as much value for my team as he does, and the way some RIFC managers accumulate RBs, I simply didn’t want to play roulette.
 
75Nerfherders
      ID: 501035289
      Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 18:11
for Greybear
12.06 Eddie Kennison, WR, KC

At this point, I thought it was time for me to look at some depth at WR, as I had my three starters selected but no one to relieve them. Granted, Eddie is getting a bit long in the tooth, but he has the speed necessary to stretch the field vertically as evidenced by his 16.7 yards-per-catch average since his arrival in Kansas City. He is their No. 1 receiver and should get a lot of targets. He has started 44 consecutive games over the past three seasons which is a testament to his durability. All in all, I was happy to be able to pick up a No. 1 WR in the 12th round.

 
76Nerfherders
      ID: 501035289
      Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 18:15
12.07 Joe Horn, WR ATL

One of the last #1 WR left on the board, I was a little surprised to see him still here. Yes, he is old, and yes his QB is not all that great (look at Chris Chambers behind said QB last season), but he is still the #1 target for the Falcons so he should put up decent numbers, especially for a #3-#4 WR.
 
77Smith32
      Sustainer
      ID: 139592519
      Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 20:48
for bmd
12.08 Patrick Crayton, WR, DAL

I was very excited to see Crayton fall to me. I almost selected him with my previous pick and needed him to handcuff my 3rd WR position. Crayton has the potential to put up huge numbers if either Owens or Glenn get injured/suspended. Even if they don't he'll still put up decent numbers and should give me a little protection in case one of my other WR's goes down or starts to suck(looking at Bruce).
 
78Smith32
      Sustainer
      ID: 139592519
      Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 20:49
for GoatLocker
12.09 Michael Jenkins, WR, ATL

Not overly happy with this pick either, but could surprise.
And of that I would really be happy.
Basically looking at him as strictly a Bye week fill-in.
And who knows, maybe I can find another WR buried somewhere.
 
79Smith32
      Sustainer
      ID: 139592519
      Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 20:49
for Bags
12.10 Matt Schaub, QB, HOU

I had a few QB’s in mind to be my backup, most of them went a few rounds before I was ready to draft them. I wanted a backup with a guaranteed spot, a good SOS against the pass, and good upside. Schaub fits into all of my needs for a b/u QB. He is unproven but should do well with Johnson catching and Kubiak calling the plays
 
80Smith32
      Sustainer
      ID: 139592519
      Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 20:58
12.11 Gibril Wilson, DB, NYG

This was in some ways a blown pick. 2 of my IDP projection sources had Wilson in the top tier of DBs, and since there seemed to be a run on them, I decided to take Gibril. In hindsight, I should have taken a LB (namely Posluszny - and can I insert a random spelling of that?) or gamble on somebody with boom-or-bust potential. This league is so well balanced that it's going to be the person who finds the '07 version of '06 Colston who will win. And I doubt his name is '07 Gibril. But stockpiling solid IDPs in these rounds isn't the worst thing in the world either, especially when your QB2 has great leadership qualities.
 
81I_AM_CANADIAN
      Donor
      ID: 1361448
      Fri, Aug 24, 2007, 00:12
for Holt
12.12 Brandon Jones WR TEN

Definitely time to take a 4th WR. Jones likely isn't going to put up huge numbers, but Tennessee has to throw to ball to someone. There's a chance that he becomes the number 1 guy and gets a thousand yards. There's also a chance that he ends up sitting on the bench. Either way, Lord willing, I won't have much need for a WR4. This is a speculative pick. Bench wr's are kinda the same as IDP's to me. Like throwing darts at a dartboard. A bunch of waiver wire fodder.

 
82I_AM_CANADIAN
      Donor
      ID: 1361448
      Fri, Aug 24, 2007, 00:12
for Beezer
12.13 – Andra Davis, LB, CLE

Hmm, two Cleveland defenders. I’d be more concerned about that if I hadn’t had both of them on my team last year with solid results. Davis is a run-stopping machine on a team that doesn’t stop the run much, so that means a lot of tackles. He averaged just shy of 8 FP/G last year and should do about the same this year.

 
83I_AM_CANADIAN
      Donor
      ID: 1361448
      Fri, Aug 24, 2007, 00:13
12.14 Ernie Sims, LB, DET
Coming up to these two picks, I had no doubt in my mind what position I was targeting. It was going to be LB-LB, and I'd try to find the best value. Sims had a lot expectations to produce last year as the starting WLB in the Lions Cover-2. His lack of "big plays" limited his #s last year. Now in his second year, I'm hoping he can come out and crack top 10 type #s.

Best Pick of Round 12: 12.06 Eddie Kennison
Stretch of Round 12: 12.10 Matt Schaub