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| Posted by: Guru
- [330592710] Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 09:48
Pretty wild trading at the opening this morning. I made about $35 in the first 15 minutes, and trading seems to have moderated a bit now. Had I been more organized, I'm sure I could have picked up another $10-20.
Looks like trading at the Tuesday morning opening is going to be an important component of generating gains. Tough break for those of you late sleepers on the left coast.
After 15 minutes, Adrian Peterson is the big gainer, up almost $17. Randy Moss is up $10.50, and Derrick Ward is up about $9.50
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| | | 1 | Alex
ID: 8718115
Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 09:51
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I'm up about $40 without really planning anything out ahead of time too.
Does anyone have any early ideas about who is facing weak defenses or especially good matchups in week 2?
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| | | 2 | J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 09:53
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Can anyone really justify spending $30 on Ward? I'm almost tempted to keep the cash and move him already
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| | | 3 | GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 09:53
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Hopefully I won't lose what I made when I head for work now.
Cliff
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| | | 4 | Alex
ID: 8718115
Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 09:56
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Cliff - I'm thinking I'll get out of some of these guys relatively quickly because they are likely to start giving back some of their gains eventually. That's why I'm trying to figure out which teams have good matchups...safer place to park my money.
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| | | 5 | Kyle
Donor
ID: 052753312
Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 09:56
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I turn on my computer here at work (I start at 8:30 cst), and check my work e-mail. Then (15 minutes later) I check Rotohog to make my planned trades thinking that prices would move but not much until after 9. Boy was I wrong. My new Tuesday routine will be show up early for work, check the Hog and then my e-mail :P
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| | | 6 | Chuck
ID: 54733162
Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 09:57
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I'm up about $50 this morning, also without being organized. I am currently missing out on Chris Brown and Reggie Wayne due to lack of funds and lack of roster spots, but I still have 5 of the top 7 gainers ($$-wise) on my team.
The question I have is when do I sell my "gainers" and pick up my "point-producers" for the coming week? I would think possibly Thursday would be ahead of the curve-- and of course I can still keep 3 gainers on the bench, as well.
Adrian Peterson at $60-- doesn't that seem a bit high now? Worth selling and banking my $14 gain?
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| | | 7 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 09:58
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At $31+, Ward seems overpriced. Will bear watching.
At defense, I took Cincy, as the contra-Cleveland option. I may not stay there, but they were moving up early, so I took 'em and I'll sort it out later.
The only price loser who I held was Crayton, and he's only down about a buck so far. I still thought he was a decent option for me to start this week. I don't trust any of those ultra-cheap receivers.
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| | | 8 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 10:02
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Well, my roster page wasn't giving me a sell button--even though I was hitting update. Finally I went to trading page as it was like a Christmas tree. Couldn't figure things out. Then went back to roster page and it was working fine. I wasn't prepared relaly and also started filling some slots instead of going for gains. Also didn't make my first move until prob 9:45. Am still up a few bucks--but mostly on guys I already had.
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| | | 9 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 10:04
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Looks like they bumped Ward up by about $5.00 overnight. Before the opening, I showed him at $16.13 (sell price), and today's posted market movement of +10.65 (as of this moment) fails to explain about $5 of his current price.
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| | | 10 | J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 10:07
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I noticed Ward went down about 70 cents, so I bailed. Also bailed on Peterson.
I've made about $50 so far today, putting me at $392. Really want to hit that $400 mark for some reason :)
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| | | 11 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 10:16
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They are both going up now.
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| | | 12 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 10:17
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Wow, I'm only up like $13. Missing that first 15 mins hurts.
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| | | 13 | ukula
ID: 10811119
Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 10:26
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over $400
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| | | 14 | TacoJohn
ID: 422551921
Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 10:27
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Yeah, I really had some miscues and took way too long to get in on Moss and Peterson because of it. Still made almost $50 so far. Reggie Wayne was the only top 8 guy I missed I think.
I moved into some higher talent guys with my Peterson/Ward/Moss money. I figure with everyone's new-found wealth guys like Addai and Manning should do alright.
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| | | 15 | Chuck
ID: 54733162
Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 10:37
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I parlayed Peterson into Manning, which (for now) I am happy about. I figure if he produces, and because of his name, Manning could be one of the first to sell out, so I want to be on board.
I started today at $330 and am now around $390-- not the magic 400, but I certainly feel like I am not at as big of a disadvantage, and perhaps I'll get to $400 before the week is over.
I did look back at my week 1, and, the guys that I sold from my roster today no longer show up on my week 1 roster. I actually never even saw what my final point total was (though I know Alex Smith was a big bust). I assume this is just cosmetic, but I wanted to see what my point total was compared to the leaders. Is there any other place I can find my point total on the site?
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| | | 16 | J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 10:41
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I made $400! Up to $404 now.
I'm surprised we haven't seen anyone sold out. I was thinking about going ahead and locking LT in until his bye week, but I guess its not an issue yet. Already have Peyton & Addai locked in
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| | | 17 | Chuck
ID: 54733162
Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 10:47
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Wow... Lorenzen and McDonald just made a big run-- and I thought my big gainers were done for the day!
I'm a bit surprised LaMont Jordan has not gone up much today. He's #2 in points for RB's and half the price of #1. Chris Brown, the #6 is now more than $4 more than him after a +$10 run up today. I am thinking/hoping that once things settle other will see this and buy him. :)
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| | | 18 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 10:50
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I had to get out of Curry, costing me a buck and wasting oppoortunity profit. But after I sold him I realized why I bought him in the first place, I don't have the cash to get a Moss, etc. Saw the Cincy D jumping up and barely had enough. Had to dump the Pitt D and as well as Cincy's D played last night and facing the Browns, it might be a good hold.
I wish rotohog would have all players grouped on the main page. Ds and Ks aren't included in that apparently as it is set to default with Offense. Subsequently, Ds and Ks will get ignored more. Still at the end of the day, people are going to use one of each and most will notice thier own D/K's price (if they have one at this point).
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| | | 19 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 10:56
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I just did a quick calc, and it looks like you currently need about $485-ish to load up with the most expensive 10 starters.
If that holds true, it sounds like some of us will be there by next week. Maybe even this week.
As in baseball, the trading aspect might be of secondary importance very early in the season.
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| | | 20 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 10:56
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I finally hit $400, but I also started the day at over $367. About 20 mins ago my value jumped over $10 in about 5 mins. Looks like it mostly came from Lorenzen.
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| | | 21 | Chuck
ID: 54733162
Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 11:00
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OK, I'm over $400, a nice +$70 gain for the day. Time to go get my baseball roster set for the day... and then time to start working. Tuesdays are going to be a rather unproductive day, it seems. :)
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| | | 22 | J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 11:00
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Whats with Eli going up 70 cents today?
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| | | 23 | Ender
ID: 5963859
Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 11:07
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I'm up to $348. The bell opened before school starts here so I was able to jump in right away. I had to hope the market didn't crash until my plan period (now). Fortunately it worked out. I feel a whole lot better after my poor financial showing last week. Now if I can just turn these $$$ into points...
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| | | 24 | Doug
ID: 441251914
Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 11:07
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136th place after week 1... $420 as of a few mins ago.
I'll need to swap Lorenzen for a real QB and McDonald for a real WR sometime this week.
Wonder how soon they'll update Rayner to show he's on KC now.
I went Pitt -> Cinci like Ref.
Moss is the only guy I have who's at least one full dollar off of his season high... everyone else seems at/near it. Well, except Peterson's about 80 cents off it. I'd swap him for Steven Jackson at this point if he wasn't facing Detroit this week.
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| | | 25 | TacoJohn
ID: 507502811
Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 11:12
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I was thrilled about all the gains, but after reading here I'll be honest and admit I liked it more when I had $370 and many had $330 vs having $450 and many having $410. Sorry guys! :)
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| | | 26 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 11:20
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I agree with TJ. I did well last week when the market was slow. Now the differences might not mean so much. That first week was big adn after a fast start, I laid an egg at the end. 181st place but only 40 points back. Still going to be very tough with so mnay people so close. Going to take some diff picks that work out repeatedly.
The season high/low thing actually is reflecting today's high/low. I kept looking at it weird in how I had buys less than the season low. Then I started looking closer and noticed what's up.
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| | | 27 | GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 12:01
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Was just about to take the money out of Drew Carter, and he goes up another .$30+
Still don't understand Lamont Jordan not going up more.
Going to watch things and get out when I need to and then slowly start buying who I want this week.
Cliff
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| | | 28 | Ender
ID: 5963859
Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 13:35
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I can't load any pages at this point. Anyone else?
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| | | 29 | TacoJohn
ID: 507502811
Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 13:51
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I'm still just in shock about how much money was made today. I expected a couple of big gains, but my goodness.
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| | | 30 | Ender
ID: 5963859
Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 13:54
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I can't even get the home page to come up. Oddly, I have my baseball roster page up from earlier today and I can hit the update button successfully. I just can't do anything else.
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| | | 31 | Chuck
ID: 152261223
Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 14:15
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+$92 today, at this point-- +$22 in the last 3 hours, and I haven't even made any trades at that time. Methinks $$ will not mean much for much longer, unless you happen to be really low. But I am sure I will be able to get the team I want this weekend, as I will not want all the highest priced players, and probably won't worry about saving any money to make money for next week. I learned in baseball that points win the game, not $$, and though I have $1700+ in team value there, I would trade a good chunk of that for points in a heartbeat, as I'm sitting in the 30's in the real standing with an unused balance of $811.
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| | | 32 | TacoJohn
ID: 507502811
Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 14:22
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Chuck, I hate you for that number. :)
Frye to Seattle if anyone missed it. Quinn and Anderson will see nice gains, though Quinn will probably become a bubble situation given he's unlikely to start this week.
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| | | 33 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 15:04
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Well I wonder what adjustments they are making to the market now at the first scheduled closing?
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| | | 34 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 15:11
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TJ, not to rub salt inthe wound, but Crosby up over 3.50 and last I saw Raynor had actally dropped like .58 and falling.
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| | | 35 | GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 15:19
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What's the thought, time to get out of Derrick Ward and Randy Moss?
Cliff
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| | | 36 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 15:27
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Everytime they drop a little bit they've gotten a surge upwards. I'm thinking that people get online for the first time and see a huge rise and they just ump on them. I'd like to hold barring a huge sell-off.
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| | | 37 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 15:29
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Well as I say that AP got a rise but now Ward is starting to fall much quicker. I never had Moss.
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| | | 38 | GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 15:32
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I had lost 50 cents on Moss, so I did dump both
I dumped AP earlier, and last I had looked, he was pretty flat lined from when I sold him
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| | | 39 | GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 15:38
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Lorenzen is $.50 off of his daily high.
Might be the next sell.
Haven't done any buys right now, seeing what I can find.
Cliff
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| | | 40 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 15:43
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I saw Avant was on the top of page two and rising so I nabbed him along with Anderson finally. I sold Ward after he dropped about a buck more. AP has gone up a few pennies but nothing major. Watching Lorenzen carefully as well. He had surged a few tiems after dropping previoously so who knows.
It would be nice if I had enough money toi use all my slots ot make more money, but I really don't want to sell anyone I am considering using next week. Don'tw ant to take a chance on selling out for one.
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| | | 41 | GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 15:44
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Only have a couple right now that I intend to use.
Guess I should start to buy them shortly.
Just not sure how much to try to milk out of a couple of these guys.
Cliff
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| | | 42 | Ender
ID: 5963859
Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 15:50
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I finally have an opportunity to watch things somewhat closely. I'm still holding all the big guns, but they're all at critical mass IMO. I want to bleed every penny I can, but there's a fine line between that and losing a couple bucks when the selling starts.
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| | | 43 | TacoJohn
ID: 507502811
Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 16:02
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[34] Ironically I had Crosby on my roster already and in my frenzy this morning never got around to Rayner, taking Moss instead, so I got pretty lucky all around. :)
I'll give you credit though, you were right about Rayner. I still think he'll see some gains at some point and if he doesn't I'll be glad to start him for 10 bucks.
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| | | 44 | RotohogNewb
ID: 41818214
Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 16:56
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what are people at right now? I'm at $458.
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| | | 45 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 17:42
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I was tring to figure out what retarded my gains today and I see one was Jacobs. Apparently hog reduced his price before the market opened. Also have lost quit a bit the last half hour or so. Made some moves--which only added to those losses. Been living on page two as those guys are starting to move up slowly and should be the next big gainers--or so I am thinking.
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| | | 46 | J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 17:46
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I stopped trying really, I'm at $419
Locked up Manning, Tomlinson, Addai, Gates for now
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| | | 47 | Crunch Bunch
ID: 3136114
Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 18:16
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I'm at $413 and sold out of all my players that I had bought for speculation. I've basically got my team that I'm playing this week and keeping more $ to pick up bench players as the action unfolds this weekend.
22nd in the MF league and 1st in the Jackpot league so hopefully I can keep it going
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| | | 48 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 21:03
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I lost over $20 in just a few hours away from the computer and not really sure where all it came from.
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| | | 49 | Alex
ID: 8718115
Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 21:21
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Crunch Bunch - How many teams are in the jackpot league?
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| | | 50 | Crunch Bunch
ID: 10742520
Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 21:35
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[49] Can't tell, it's like the MF league where it only shows your place and then shows the top 100 in the league details
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| | | 51 | TacoJohn
ID: 422551921
Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 22:00
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[50] What place would the #100 MFL team be in in the jackpot league?
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| | | 52 | Crunch Bunch
ID: 10742520
Wed, Sep 12, 2007, 01:24
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[51] #100 has 83.64 points
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| | | 53 | Alex
ID: 8718115
Wed, Sep 12, 2007, 07:04
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[52] - I don't think that's what he meant. He meant if the #100 overall person (who I think has around 160-165 points) was in the jackpot league, what place would they be in?
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| | | 54 | Ender
ID: 5963859
Wed, Sep 12, 2007, 10:35
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Some activity right out of the gate, but nowhere near yesterday. What activity there has been has trailed off quite a bit.
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| | | 55 | Crunch Bunch
ID: 3136114
Wed, Sep 12, 2007, 12:22
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[53] Oh I see, the 100th overall person would be 2nd in the Jackpot league then as the 2nd place owner in the jackpot league has 153.38 currently.
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| | | 56 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Sep 12, 2007, 12:38
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What a weird day for prices.
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| | | 57 | TacoJohn
ID: 507502811
Wed, Sep 12, 2007, 12:59
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Anyone else slowly leaking money?
I'm down to $459 from my high of $472. Though half of that is transaction fees from turning over my roster to starters this morning.
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| | | 58 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Sep 12, 2007, 13:16
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I haven't really even studied who I want as my starters except for some of the same ones I used last week.
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| | | 59 | Valkyrie
Dude
ID: 47042413
Wed, Sep 12, 2007, 22:08
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I think I can answer Taco John- I am 101 in MF with 158 points and #25 in LG.
Of course that was week 1, not getting up at 6:30 Tuesday cost me $20+ RV and I doubt i'll maintain position at RV $285 however I am not willing to change my whole lifestyle for a Rotohog contest LOL.
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| | | 60 | Ender
ID: 5963859
Thu, Sep 13, 2007, 15:55
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Terry Glenn is up $1.48? Weird day for price changes.
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| | | 61 | Valkyrie
Dude
ID: 47042413
Thu, Sep 13, 2007, 22:31
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Actually he is up a little more than that- That looks like some form of market manipulation to me because I can't think of any reason for buying him immediately after his second knee surgery??? esp when he won't be playing for several weeks if ever again.
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| | | 62 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Sep 16, 2007, 16:04
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The Cincy D :(
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| | | 63 | Crunch Bunch
ID: 10742520
Sun, Sep 16, 2007, 16:26
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I picked up Wynn and Roydell Williams - no backups to pick up yet after the morning games
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| | | 64 | Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Mon, Sep 17, 2007, 14:13
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For anyone in an ESPN league, be sure to check out their "Smack Cards"......a pretty funny way to rub it in after a victory (perhaps they have had these forever, but this is the first year in many years I've used ESPN). Be sure to click on the "doodle" when you are filling out the card.....they have a pretty hilarious "in your face" drawing you can add where a football is wedged halfway into the guy's face.
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| | | 65 | Ender
ID: 5963859
Tue, Sep 18, 2007, 08:45
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I was off to a horrible start through week 2 and now our firewall has deemed RH a "gambling" website so I can't access it from school at all. That pretty well kills my chances of earning any cap money and therefore essentially eliminates me from prize contention. It stinks, but life will go on.
The good news is that at this point it should have no effect on baseball as I do most of that at home anyway. I don't need to be around for a specific market time in the morning, etc...
Hopefully because hoops is much more like baseball I'll be able to compete. Best of luck to you guys for the remainder of football season.
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| | | 66 | Alex
ID: 8718115
Tue, Sep 18, 2007, 08:59
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65 - How the heck did whoever maintains the firewall even become aware of RH and know what it is?
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| | | 67 | Ender
ID: 5963859
Tue, Sep 18, 2007, 09:26
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You got me. I'm pretty sure we outsource this and the "St. Bernard" company flagged it as gambling. I can contact my principal and get it approved, but I don't really want to be the guy who asks for permission to access a sight flagged as a gambling website. We all know it's not gambling, but I really don't want to have to explain it all and convinve any administrator that I only use it before or after school and at lunch. It all just starts to sound like rationalization for a nonexistant gambling problem (I don't bet on games of any kind) so I can access a miscategorized non-gambling site. I'll just leave it as is and make the best of it from home.
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| | | 68 | Alex
ID: 8718115
Tue, Sep 18, 2007, 09:33
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Anybody else having trouble selling players?
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| | | 69 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Sep 18, 2007, 09:34
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Horrible problems.
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| | | 70 | Alex
ID: 8718115
Tue, Sep 18, 2007, 09:36
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Yeah, seems like we were able to sell one player and then can't sell anymore. At least that's what happened to me and at least one guy on TacoJohn's site.
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| | | 71 | J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Tue, Sep 18, 2007, 09:39
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Wow, this SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!
I just emailed them
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| | | 72 | Chuck
ID: 54733162
Tue, Sep 18, 2007, 09:43
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Probably would be good to keep all discussion in the week 3 thread...
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| | | 73 | deepsnapper
Leader
ID: 017103420
Tue, Sep 18, 2007, 09:45
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Ditto problem - error:
There was an error in completing your trade.
Cannot sell a roster player in a game until Tuesday
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