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- Donor [539581218] Tue, Nov 20, 2007, 10:40
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Nov 20, 2007, 10:48
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Adjustments made.
Amazingly, I've cost myself another win by using the wrong K and DST. I don't have the best team by any stretch, but I could have won all but two games this year if I had used my optimal lineup. TB would have beat me anyhow if he could have used his best lineup so it's all good. My team has been amazingly consistent this year. Still, it's no where close to a championship caliber team. Guess I'm going to have to make a trade to have any shot at winning a game in the playoffs, even if I do make it that far. Not have a RB all year has hurt.
DS was a hard luck loser this week--falling by just .08 points. I think that's good for tied for 5th closest margin ever. I'll check.
It appears that StL Cards has clinched a playoff spot in the NFC. Don't think anyone else has done so--but I haven't looked at schedule matchups either.
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| | | 2 | Peter N.
ID: 426242722
Tue, Nov 20, 2007, 11:06
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LMAO, I'm 3rd in the power rankings, but 4th in the NFC South. Can we switch up the divisions next year??? ;-)
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| | | 3 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Nov 20, 2007, 11:35
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There are some very good teams who didn't cover bye weeks who might not even make the playoffs because of it.
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| | | 4 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Nov 20, 2007, 12:25
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Pick-ems Standings:
Colts 153
Bears 151
Jags 147
Eagles 150
Jets 136
Raiders 144
Chargers 144
Bengals 133
Playoff Race:
AFC
Colts 15-7
Raiders 13-9
Bengals 14-8
Ravens 12-10 1906.9
In the Hunt: Texans 12-10 1886.1, Bills 11-11
NFC
49ers 18-4
Cardinals 16-6
Vikings 15-7
Eagles 14-8
In the Hunt: Rams 13-9, Cowboys 12-10
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| | | 5 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Nov 20, 2007, 13:58
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Franchise Standings and Record Book updated in League's forum.
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| | | 6 | Slizz
ID: 21733916
Tue, Nov 20, 2007, 15:25
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God, going 0-2 on a statement weekend stinks!
When is the trading deadline? I dont have sportsline @ work!
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| | | 7 | Toral
ID: 575542418
Wed, Nov 21, 2007, 09:18
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Hey -- great news for you guys who I have been trying to peddle Priest Holmes to -- his price has just gone way way down! :(
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| | | 8 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Nov 21, 2007, 10:29
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LOL! I was thinking, man if the price wasn't so steep I may have taken a chance on him. I do need a RB afterall.
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| | | 9 | Slizz
ID: 21733916
Wed, Nov 21, 2007, 14:21
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Either way, the Chiefs' offense stinks, so you didnt lose that much Toral :) Not much going on there besides my boy D-Bowe.
now somehow if I pull the 0-fer again...I will place RYAN GRANT on the block. Sure its most likely a 1-year rental, but hes on a team with a powerful offense, gets the ball 20 times a game plus reception yards, combine that with the occasional TD and Grant could very well push one owner into the championship!
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| | | 10 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Nov 22, 2007, 09:43
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Remember our rules for the short week...
As always, Pickems must be made before any games start (at least 5 mins before first kickoff). However, you may continue to make add/drops or trades for any player who hasn't already been frozen. This means the trademus be approved by a commish before that time. (I'm not going to be around--not sure about Cards so it would be risky to agree to a trade this afternoon for example of a guy getting ready to play today). The freeze for all other players remains 5 mins before the first game on Sunday.
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| | | 11 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Nov 23, 2007, 15:28
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Just approved a trade and reminded me that I should talk about our trade deadline.
Except for a vetoable trade, an accepted trade that is made by Wednesday night will be approved (even if one of us can't be around in time (be sure to tell us your lineup before the freeze)). However, if Cards or I am around on the 29th, we will allow trades up until the freeze on the 29th. We don't have any info that we won't be around, just want to make sure that everyone knows that waiting until Thursday to deal comes with a little risk--especially if it's near the freeze.
The Thursday freeze is the trade deadline. Even though the site will allow you to propose and accept trades that day after that point, they will not be approved.
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| | | 12 | Doug
ID: 53937413
Sat, Nov 24, 2007, 16:25
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I may be in the market for a 1-year rental type player depending how this weekend goes.
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| | | 13 | Slizz
ID: 291022316
Sat, Nov 24, 2007, 16:43
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No Doubt...we shall see after this weekend Doug :) i'm 11-11 and if i goto 11-13, i might as well start planning for next year.
All I would be asking for is draft compensation.
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| | | 14 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Nov 25, 2007, 01:12
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RE: 11
I forgot that CBS is allowing trades even after Thursday games now and they won't let you trade anyone who has already played on Thursday anyhow.
Therefore, the trade deadline will actually be next Saturday at 11:59 pm. Obviously, if you want to trade someone who plays Thursday, it must be approved before the freeze on Thursday.
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| | | 15 | StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Sun, Nov 25, 2007, 11:29
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StLCards' 49ers and Twarpy's Giants agree to a trade for next week. Twarpy gets Panthers DST and the 49ers 2nd round 2008 pick for the Colts DST and his 5th round 2008 pick.
Since the Colts DST has already played this week, we are proposing and accepting this trade now for next week in case one of us isn't around to complete it. Twarpy to confirm.
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| | | 16 | Twarpy
Leader
ID: 386242821
Sun, Nov 25, 2007, 11:30
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Confirmed
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| | | 17 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Nov 25, 2007, 12:34
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I think the web site will let you do this on tuesday if you are around.
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| | | 18 | Great One
ID: 201155199
Sun, Nov 25, 2007, 12:44
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Andre Hall on the trading block...
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| | | 19 | deepsnapper
Leader
ID: 017103420
Tue, Nov 27, 2007, 10:15
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Trade accepted between ds's Eagles and Jay's Bills.
ds gives up Andre Johnson, WR, Houston & Heath Evan, RB, NE
Jay gives up Javon Walker, WR, Denver & Juliuus Jones, RB, Dal.
Jay please confirm.
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| | | 20 | Toral
ID: 575542418
Tue, Nov 27, 2007, 10:31
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Clarifications re this season-ending week requested:
-- when is the last waiver request done?
-- when is the last legal time to pick up FAs?
Toral
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| | | 21 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Nov 27, 2007, 10:44
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Last WW will run Sat night. All FAs will lock at Freeze on Sun. Thursday game FA's will loc kat 5 mins before their game.
Two adjustments made.
One trade processed.
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| | | 22 | Slizz
ID: 1710252616
Tue, Nov 27, 2007, 11:26
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Confirmed.
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| | | 23 | AZ Cardinals
ID: 37262119
Tue, Nov 27, 2007, 12:35
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Looking for RB help......anyone, anyone, anyone...
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| | | 24 | Twarpy
ID: 2710502711
Tue, Nov 27, 2007, 12:50
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Kolby Smith is available for the right price.
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| | | 25 | Great One
Sustainer
ID: 053272014
Tue, Nov 27, 2007, 12:55
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Andre Hall and Ron Dayne.
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| | | 26 | Toral
ID: 575542418
Tue, Nov 27, 2007, 12:59
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DeShaun Foster
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| | | 27 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Nov 27, 2007, 13:22
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I've also been talking to some teams about a RB. Make me an offer before I pull the trigger on one. It seems there may be several trades go down this week.
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| | | 28 | blackjackis21
Dude
ID: 034837521
Tue, Nov 27, 2007, 13:50
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Twarpy, skinneej, Promize and CCRider, you've got mail.
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| | | 29 | Twarpy
Leader
ID: 386242821
Tue, Nov 27, 2007, 16:04
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bj21 didnt get an email, eneu at rogers dot com.
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| | | 30 | blackjackis21
Dude
ID: 034837521
Tue, Nov 27, 2007, 16:14
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Hm.
Twarpy, skinneej, Promize and CCRider, you've got mail a trade proposal.
Better?
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| | | 31 | Twarpy
ID: 2710502711
Tue, Nov 27, 2007, 16:30
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Sorry was at work, didnt go onto CBS, weird how I didnt get a trade notification via email, I will respond to your offer later bj21.
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| | | 32 | blackjackis21
Dude
ID: 034837521
Tue, Nov 27, 2007, 16:35
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Yeah, didn't mean to sound like a smarta$$ about it, but figured it would generate an e-mail.
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| | | 33 | StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Tue, Nov 27, 2007, 16:47
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Promize can't get email at work and I am pretty sure that CCRider has issues getting to the site from work too as I remember calling him during the draft to help with his draft picks.
You don't need any more players anyway!
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| | | 34 | blackjackis21
Dude
ID: 034837521
Tue, Nov 27, 2007, 16:56
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Shouldn't matter seeing as I get to play the two best teams in the league (record-wise, anyways) this week. Yay.
Don't you two (49ers and Cardinals) want to rest your studs this week?
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| | | 35 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Nov 27, 2007, 17:44
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Pick-ems standings:
Colts 168
Bears 163
Eagles 163
Jags 158
Raiders 156
Chargers 156
Jets 146
Playoffs Race
AFC
1. Colts 16-8*
2. Raiders 14-10 2164.6
3. Bengals 14-10 2404.1
4. Ravens 14-10 2159.3
Still Alive: Bills 12-12 2100.6, Texans 12-12 2039.7
NFC
1. 49ers 19-5*
2. Cardinals 18-6*
3. Vikings 17-7*
4. Rams 14-10 2636.3
Still Alive: Eagles 14-10 2471.6, Cowboys 12-12 2646.9, Packers 12-12 2151.9
*clinched playoff spot
The schedule this week is wild. bj's Rams for instance plays the top two teams in the league. TB's Ravens also has tough matchups and Slizz is just a few points behind. Could be a wild finish! I'll get to the franchise standings and record book soon.
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| | | 36 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Nov 27, 2007, 18:02
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Btw, mbj's Bengals is pretty much clinched too. No way he loses the tiebreak even if he doesn't win by record alone. Same can probbaly be said for Doug Raiders who can only get knocked out by bmd's Texans and a miracle point differential this week.
So realistically, bmd and skinneej's packers can't make it. Pete could still make it if he wins both and bj and ds lose twice as he has the tiebreak numbers. Slizz can also make it with two wins and some points--but with his trades today that will be really tough. It was a longshot anyhow.
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| | | 37 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Nov 28, 2007, 12:46
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Franchise Standings and Record Book updated.
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| | | 38 | Slizz
ID: 21733916
Wed, Nov 28, 2007, 13:31
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Even with the deals...its going to come down to Jerricho Cotchery outperforming Ryan Grant. If somehow Cotchery has a 2 TD day vs the Miami defense and the Ravens have a "off week" like I did in week 11, I could make it based on point differential.
I need to score 30 more than him and have him lose 2x while I win 2x. That would give me the 60 point differential needed for the 4th and final seed.
He plays two playoff teams in Bengals & Raiders. I play two teams who had high picks in the draft this year.
::keeping fingers crossed::
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| | | 40 | Peter N.
ID: 426242722
Wed, Nov 28, 2007, 14:28
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Man, I really screwed up a golden opportunity. Freakin' Testaverde. I should've known better than to trade for a QB who is as old as my parents.
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| | | 41 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Nov 28, 2007, 14:49
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Shocked you didn't get Feely for free on the FA wire. Those two losses last week may have doomed you.
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| | | 42 | Peter N.
ID: 426242722
Wed, Nov 28, 2007, 14:57
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Yeah, I saw him out there. I didn't like his matchup against the Patriots though. I thought he'd get blitzed by them and throw up a negative. Testaverde's matchup against the Saints looked really nice until he woke up Saturday morning with a back ache. Shows you what I know. HA
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| | | 43 | Slizz
ID: 21733916
Wed, Nov 28, 2007, 15:52
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Hindsight is 20/20 Peter.
What if Bradford didnt go down for Oklahoma?
What if I kept Favre instead of shipping him to Ref for a 3rd rounder and *laughs* Mike Bell?
We all thought Favre was finished too. Of course if I had Favre instead of Ref, I'd be sitting pretty instead of what looks to be Odd Man Out.
Hope that makes you feel somewhat better :)
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| | | 44 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Nov 28, 2007, 16:33
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I hear that Slizz!!!
What if I held Grant? What if I could figure out my optimal lineup each week or even could pick teh best DST from week to week?
I had some keepers who were worthless to me this year. In fact, they hurt me as they took up roster spots.
I will say that I'm shocked by the parity and how close some of the games have come down to. Simply covering a bye week or making a tweak here or there can have huge implications. There has been some talk about adding additional IDPs for next year or allowing IDP pickup for the playoffs or tweaking numbers, etc. and we can talk about that for next year. But I do think the IDPs and DHs turned out better than I imagined. I was surprised for awhile about how many bye weeks left uncovered and lack of trading this year until I looked at how easy it was to find nice IDP players on the FA wire. I've heard several ideas privately, but I think if anyone has any ideas moving forward they can post them and give their rationale behind it.
Even though there are some very good teams, the playoffs are wide open. I was looking at my team today and noticed that even though my team might not be all that great, I've still have a 4-1 record against the NFC South and 3-2 record vs the NFC North. That shows that my team or anyone really has a chance to win it all if they can make it to the playoffs.
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| | | 45 | Slizz
ID: 21733916
Wed, Nov 28, 2007, 17:20
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We currently start 5 offensive players (sans QB). I dont see why we cant start 5 defensive players...3 mandatory position fillers, and 2 flex spots, just like offense (sans QB).
Maybe that would encourage more trading of IDPs and make them a more valued commodity. I wholeheartedly agree with Ref that you could find a quality LB (Will Witherspoon), DB (Adrian Wilson, Sammy Knight), or even DL (Aaron Schobel, Adewale Ogunleye...sorry I am just using examples that I know off the top of my head!) out on the FA wire to fill in during a bye week that would make a significant impact in your teams chances at a W or a L.
If we somehow increased the active roster spot by one. It would put top tier defensive players at a premium, just like our offensive players! It would also make the draft more interesting ;)
DL, like a TE
LB, like a RB
DB, like a WR
Anyone elses thoughts?
As for G24 Playoffs, your guess is as good as mine...all I know is there are some quality races going on in each division!
Either way, I am happy to be a part of G24 as a rookie GM here. you guys certianly made this one of the more enjoyable seasons than I've had in past experiences!
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| | | 46 | Twarpy
Leader
ID: 386242821
Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 13:03
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Is anyone else not receiving trade notifications despite having it checked off...bj21 just logged in and saw your trade offer and sent you a counter.
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| | | 47 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 13:13
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I get all of mine. Maybe you need to add it to your safe list as it's getting tagged spam?
I've been getting some questions about our deadlines so once again I'm going to post it for clarification...
The trade deadline for the year as well as the add/drop deadline for the year for all GB or Dallas players is the freeze tonight.
The trade deadline for the year for all non-GB/Dal players is 11:59 pm on Saturday.
The add/drop deadline for the year for all non-GB/Dal players is the first freeze on Sunday.
The freeze is 5 mins before the scheduled game time. Trades involving Dal/GB players must be APPROVED by a commish before the freeze tonight. Trades accepted by 11:59pm on Sat. may be approved by a commish before the first freeze on Sunday.
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| | | 48 | blackjackis21
Dude
ID: 034837521
Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 15:11
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I got your counter (via e-mail) Twarpy - I'll get back to you sometime today.
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| | | 49 | beastiemiked
ID: 65112917
Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 16:08
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Need an absolute miracle but my team isn't giving up. Just need 1 of 2 teams to lay an egg and my team to go super nuts.
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| | | 50 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 16:59
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Yep, you need TB or Doug to lose both games and you need to win both games and score more than like 65 or so points per game. Certainly possible.
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| | | 51 | Peter N.
ID: 426242722
Fri, Nov 30, 2007, 11:40
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RE 43: I hear you Slizz. I'm definitely not going to complain about Bradford going down in the Tech/OU game. :-)
If I had grabbed Feeley, I still would've lost one game so that takes away a little bit of the sting. This week I have to decide between McCown and Testaverde. Sounds crazy, but I'm leaning towards McCown if he starts. I might just start Rams D/ST over Seattle D/ST as well. LOL, I'm throwing caution to the wind this week.
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| | | 52 | StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Fri, Nov 30, 2007, 12:14
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I failed to drop Koren Robinson before the GB game so it looks like I'm stuck with him as a backup WR for the playoffs. I had hoped to drop him to allow more time for trade ideas.
That puts me in a situation where I could be willing to trade Fred Jackson if anyone needs immediate help for this week, Dwayne Jarrett if anyone thinks he will develop into a top WR down the road, or Chris Brown if anyone thinks he can land a starting gig next year somewhere. Draft picks can also be had together or separately.
I could use a quality WR or RB option as a backup for the playoffs. If Henry gets suspended then I'm in better shape as far as moving Jackson or Brown. I'm also willing to talk QB upgrade where I could send Garcia back in the deal.
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| | | 53 | Slizz
ID: 21733916
Fri, Nov 30, 2007, 15:27
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Cards - overview my roster, if there is anyone you would like that doesnt look like obvious keepers (i.e. a Marty Booker), make me a reasonable offer.
They are all priced to sell :)
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| | | 54 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Nov 30, 2007, 15:29
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Ugh! I may have give my lead back in Pick-ems. I picked Slizz to win both games (No Cotchery even now) and w/Favre's negative I should lose at least one of my games if not both. Oh well. We shall see.
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| | | 55 | blackjackis21
Dude
ID: 034837521
Sat, Dec 01, 2007, 00:25
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Twarpy and I agreed to the following: I send him Roydell Williams and my first round '08 draft pick for Kolby Smith and his 6th round '08 pick.
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| | | 56 | Twarpy
Leader
ID: 386242821
Sat, Dec 01, 2007, 00:41
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Confirmed.
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| | | 57 | Great One
ID: 201155199
Sat, Dec 01, 2007, 11:49
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Ron Dayne still available... starting again.
Nov 30 Dayne will start in place of the injured Ahman Green again Sunday against Tennessee.
Advice: Dayne has 289 yards rushing in the last three games.
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| | | 58 | beastiemiked
ID: 65112917
Sat, Dec 01, 2007, 14:06
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Blah, Crayton puts up a huge week after I finally bench him after weeks of futilty/injury.
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| | | 59 | deepsnapper
Leader
ID: 017103420
Sun, Dec 02, 2007, 12:36
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Ref or Cards - I wanted to pick up Terrance Newman, Dal, DB and he shows up as being on the WW until Wed, 12/5. I picked up Dre Bly instead.
My question is, when I go to the Transaction Report , I can't find Newman on it.
Why is Newman on waivers? Why can't I pick up Newman before the freeze?
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| | | 60 | deepsnapper
Leader
ID: 017103420
Sun, Dec 02, 2007, 12:44
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Nevermind. Once his game starts, he's frozen for the week.....
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| | | 61 | Slizz
ID: 01124120
Sun, Dec 02, 2007, 13:40
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damn you, GO!
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| | | 62 | Perm Dude
ID: 51111428
Sun, Dec 02, 2007, 13:45
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Here we are, 13 weeks in, and I just now found that you can click on a player's score on GameCenter and it'll give you a breakdown of that player's score.
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| | | 63 | StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Sun, Dec 02, 2007, 14:18
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LOL PD, I think you mean 6 years and 13 weeks.
I heard the Colts intercepted one for a TD but were offsides on the play, d'oh.
BJ21 is putting up a big fight this week. If he loses both then anything can happen.
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| | | 64 | blackjackis21
Dude
ID: 034837521
Sun, Dec 02, 2007, 14:49
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Bummer that I don't get anything for Jared Allen's (offensive) TD. Looks like I will need all the help I can get.
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| | | 65 | StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Sun, Dec 02, 2007, 15:18
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You're up in both games right now. All I ask is that if you beat me then beat the Cardinals too!
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| | | 66 | StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Sun, Dec 02, 2007, 15:57
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Good thing I didn't trade for the Colts D for a win this week. Panthers are going nuts and the Colts D are barely positive, LOL.
Hopefully the 49ers don't get the ball back again either as 4 INTs for Dilfer seems like plenty. At least he's positive, for now anyway.
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| | | 67 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Dec 02, 2007, 19:48
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bj, you don't get the offensive yards, but you will get the TD. We may have to manually do it.
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| | | 68 | blackjackis21
Dude
ID: 034837521
Sun, Dec 02, 2007, 21:36
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Really?! That might help make things interesting. I still don't like my chances though.
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| | | 69 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Dec 03, 2007, 01:03
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I like your chances a lot.
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| | | 70 | StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Mon, Dec 03, 2007, 10:50
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Looking at the matchups closer I can see why BJ21 would be nervous. The Eagles look to be in great shape for two wins this week. I will likely lose to the Rams this week based on that offensive TD by Allen, but Ray Lewis has had one 27 point game this year and could get another, however, unlikely. The 34 point lead over the Cardinals looks pretty big at first, until you consider that Brady has had 4 35 point games this year. If he gets another one, then it comes down to Bart vs Suggs.
Still you have to like BJ21's chances to win both. Looking at the current point totals the top 4 scoring teams in the league are in the South conference, yet only 2 from the south will even make the playoffs. There is going to be some really tough playoff games this year to be sure!
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| | | 71 | Doug
ID: 53937413
Mon, Dec 03, 2007, 16:51
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I attempted to pick up Deangelo Hall about 10 mins before game time when I realized both Wilson and Winfield were out this week... but roster slots were locked. Hall had 6 points... difference between 2-0 and 0-2 this week. *sigh* Oh well, didn't affect my playoff result actually... but just a matter of "pride of record".
One too many clicks of the snooze alarm. During fantasy football season I often find myself wishing that I lived farther east, lol.
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| | | 72 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Dec 03, 2007, 21:30
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WooHoo!!!
I got in another arguing match with the so called commish at CBS basically asking why the negative yards were removed this year. I sitll don't like that CBS is the only site who can't add in neg yds but I finally said, your game center has it and you've had it every year but this year, why did you change. He said he'd pass my request along and I let it go. Well he must have done it as I am now noticing that it's back in. At least now we can see how much we're going to get adjusted off before Tues morning w/o having to look up every box score.
Ray Lewis could be big for Cards and I know DS is rooting for him even more than Cards is right now as he might determine the final spot of the playoffs.
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| | | 73 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Dec 03, 2007, 22:04
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We just had another situation where the Defense made a turnover than fumbled back to the offense.
Ed Reed will get his 4 and the Ravens DST will get their 2, then both will lose 2 for the FL.
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| | | 74 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Dec 03, 2007, 22:31
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Ravens D was on the bench. Reed was adjusted down 2 points. Allen was adjusted up 6 points so I didn't forget them. There will be the rest of the adjustments tomorrow.
This is our first year with IDP. The way I'm doing it with these adjustments is how we've always done it with the DST. Basically, FL and TDs are universal. So those count. CBS can automate a FL on ST but doesn't do it on D. We use a DST. Other than that, basically offensive guys don't get DST stats (unless they are on ST) and Defensive players don't get offensive stats.
Problem is that while most of us will be notified when a IDP scores a TD because of the rarity, we might not ALWAYS be alerted to a defender's FL. Per our constitution you have the week to alert us. It is rare as well but we've seen it happen twice this year.
If we want to talk about changing this we can do so for next year. Definitely don't want to have to try and check every play by play to see if an offensive player made a tackle, etc. But if the league wanted to not penalize a FL for the IDP or DST or wanted to actually credit an offensive player for a FR when this happens, then that's something we can talk about.
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| | | 75 | StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Mon, Dec 03, 2007, 23:19
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Are you breathing easier now BJ21?
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| | | 76 | Perm Dude
ID: 51111428
Mon, Dec 03, 2007, 23:55
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You know, Yahoo makes those adjustments automatically (offensive players with a tackle, etc).
I'm just sayin'...
:)
pd
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| | | 77 | blackjackis21
Dude
ID: 034837521
Mon, Dec 03, 2007, 23:59
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Yes indeed! Sorry Roy - doesn't seem quite right beating you out given that we finish with the same record and you beat me both times we played. I guess I don't feel too bad though, given that I had to beat the second and third high points for the week to get there. R. Lewis was pretty mellow tonight - I can't believe the Ravens "O" was able to eat as much of the clock as they did tonight.
Good luck to all.
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| | | 78 | StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 09:24
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Tough way to miss out on the playoffs for sure, believe me I know as someone who has missed them the same way in the past. Still a great season for DS's Eagles despite losing LJ. I think that team looks to be among the top teams for years to come.
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 11:13
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Final Playoff Standings
1. Cards' 49ers 20-6
2. CT's Cardinals 19-7
3. thk's Vikings 17-9
4. bj21's Rams 16-10 2930.5
5. Ref's Colts 16-10 2541.1
6. TB's Ravens 16-10 2346.3
7. mbj's Bengals 14-12 2547
8. Doug's Raiders 14-12 2349.1
9. DS' Eagles 16-10 2701.5
10. Slizz's Bills 14-12 2278.5
11. Pete's Cowboys 13-13
12. Twarpy's Giants 12-14 2550.4
13. Coyotes' Broncos 12-14 2531.4
14. sj's Packers 12-14 2303.4
15. GO's Jets 12-14 2252.7
16. bmd's Texans 12-14 2217.7
17. mjd's Chargers 12-14 2202.9
18. Promize's Seahawks 11-15 2454.1
19. Toral's Saints 11-15 2259.3
20. CCR's Bears 10-16 2422.2
21. PD's Browns 10-16 2223.8
22. AF's Falcons 9-17
23. Yokel's Jaguars 7-19
24. SW's Chiefs 7-19 2060.3
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 11:22
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Super Bowl Matchups
AFC
#4 Bengals @ #1 Colts
#3 Ravens @ #2 Raiders
NFC
#4 Rams @ #1 49ers
#3 Vikings @ #2 Cardinals
Teams 9-16 will be playing this week in the Wanna Be Bowl
Teams 17-24 Will be playing in the Toilet Bowl
Both of the Consolation Bowls play in a single elimination tourney. All will play by seed. I'll have those matchups up soon. The Super Bowl teams play all three weeks to determine top 8 standings.
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| | | 81 | Peter N.
ID: 426242722
Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 11:32
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Good luck to the winner of 49ers and Rams! Make the South Division proud. It's too bad we had to beat up on each other all year instead of getting the opportunity to beat the crap outta the rest of the league in the playoffs.
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 11:40
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Well at least we all got to play 10 of 12 teams in the other conference this year instead of just two.
Pick-ems Standings
Colts 179
Bears 174
Eagles 176
Jags 169
Jets 156
Raiders 156
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| | | 83 | Slizz
ID: 21733916
Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 11:46
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you're killin me doug, killin me.
First you "edge" me in 101, and now this.
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| | | 84 | deepsnapper
Leader
ID: 017103420
Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 12:08
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Congrats bj21. Injuries were my downfall (as it was for several teams). Good luck in the playoffs.
Having a ball in the lottery means y'all should be very afraid...... ;)
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| | | 85 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 12:15
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Actually Doug had the best record in the AFC West so he had an automatic berth at no lower than a #2 seed in the playoffs. So Slizz you missed the playoffs by the tiebraker to mbj by about 270 points or so.
With the tiebreak, DS actually ended up with higher than anyone in the AFC, but didn't make the playoffs.
It's funny how my team was very good against the NFC and yet I was .500 against my own division.
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 12:30
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Reminders:
Records and all stats will continue to accure for every team that plays a game for the next three weeks. However, the Regular Season Placements for next year's Draft and lottery for teams 9-24 are final now. I will be moving them to the rules page. No matter how well or poorly you play in the consolation games, you will maintain your draft position.
For top 8 teams all stats will count but it all comes down to wins and losses and the draft will take these games into account. The records mean nothing now that we have seeded the teams.
No DHs in the playoffs.
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| | | 87 | StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Wed, Dec 05, 2007, 08:50
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See post #47 if anyone needs clarification on the freeze for adding/dropping players.
I am reversing the last move made by the Eagles. Sorry if there is confusion.
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| | | 88 | deepsnapper
Leader
ID: 017103420
Wed, Dec 05, 2007, 09:49
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no problem Kirk. I forgot about that WW claim and didn't cancel it on Sunday. I'm sorry for the extra work.
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| | | 89 | StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Wed, Dec 05, 2007, 10:48
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no problem Roy, I realized that was probably what happened when I saw that the leage settings were set correctly to no add-drops, but it must not be smart enough to stop a waiver claim submitted prior to that.
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| | | 90 | Twarpy
ID: 401115511
Wed, Dec 05, 2007, 12:51
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Seven teams in the NFC beat the 'top' team in the AFC in Ref in overall points. The NFC South was tough, but the NFC north only had one team score below 2400 pts. CT and THK bring home some hardware.
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| | | 91 | Doug
ID: 559171521
Wed, Dec 05, 2007, 15:39
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Why do we freeze add/drops for playoff teams? Most leagues I'm in at least allow "reversible" add/drops... that is, your roster reverts to what it was at the freeze date once the playoffs end. One league goes so far as to only allow transactions for non-QB/RB/WR type players. The point being that most teams can't afford to carry many (if any) backups at K, TE, IDP... especially with keeper considerations in play. But if you have a player get injured at one of these positions, you can't replace him? *shrug* I'd like to propose this now as a rule change for next year:
Rosters freeze at end of regular season... however teams may continue to make transactions as long as they are still in contention for the league title. At the end of the playoffs, all teams rosters will revert to the "frozen" end-of-regular-season roster.
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Dec 05, 2007, 16:23
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Doug, that has always been the rule. The original philosophy was that in order for a player to be used in the playoffs you had to have him on your team for at least the last game of the regular season.
I think we posted something in the last week or so about some of the ideas flowing for next year. Adding IDPs to our league created some ramifications--esp. when it comes to the playoffs that no one apparently anticipated.
First: We added 4 active IDPs and one bench slot. The prevailing thought seemed to be that too many bench spots and people hoard offensive players. The popular thought also was too many IDPs and there would be a pure crapshoot of player scoring.
My observations: With the depth of our league on offense, one could easily pluck nice IDPs off the FA wire every week. The IDPs did not share our offensive issues at finding talent. This was brought up before our vote. If we add anymore IDPs, we're going to have to add a bench spot. Then there goes the hoarding again. (This did in fact occur as a few teams chose to leave a bye week/injured player active and have a 3rd or 4th string qb/rb/wr than replace their IDP.) Therefore we may want to keep it the same or add two IDPs if we have to add a bench spot. Some of these issues have been also been shared with me, but I'm speaking for myself here. I'm fine with leaving them as they are--we jsut need to figure out if that is best. I'd like to find something that works and leave it there.
Second--Playoffs...with limited bench slots and all the actives--it's impossible to cover all of your players should an injury occur after the playoff FA freeze. I told Cards that we are going to have to propose something next year to fix this. He agreed. At first I said we should allow free pickups of IDP players, but anyone you pickup cannot be kept. I then added that because of our intentionally short benches that perhaps all non key players (QB/RB/WR) should be allowd to be picked up. I am not sure about DSTs at this point. He agreed. I then said that probably only the top 8 should be allowed to pickup players and again, no one allowed to be kept. He agreed.
Now what Doug is proposing is similar--though I've not played in a keeper league before that allowed you to make roster adjustments in the playoffs. It's inherently not fair to the non-playoff teams if you're allowed to keep them. I was thinking that whomever you dropped, you'd lose them too--but Doug's post about reverting might be a better proposal. Might even be more strategic to lsoe them both? Not sure.
Bottom line is that no one thought about (or at least mentioned) the impact of the IDPs on the playoff rosters in case of injuries which occured during or after week 13 games. GO proposed that everyone have the ability to make pickups in the playoffs ongoing, but then he withdrew it after people talked about the issues with that. I agree with Doug that this rule needs to be modified, regardless of the number of IDPs we use next year.
For my team, I added another IDP just in case and wanted to add one more and had the player in my queue to be added, but just couldn't pull the trigger to drop anyone. I just hope that there are no new injuries that hurt any of the top 8 teams this year. Hopefully for next year the league can come up with a rule just in case.
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| | | 93 | StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Thu, Dec 06, 2007, 17:08
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Looking at the last two years, I faced BJ's Rams in week 14 both times and beat BJ's Rams by 3pts both times. Hoping for more of the same this year.
Go Redskins!
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| | | 94 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Dec 06, 2007, 18:59
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Overall Standings/Records updated in standings forum.
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| | | 95 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Dec 06, 2007, 19:09
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It's playoff time--so some interesting tidbits I just noticed as we start...
The Bills franchise is the only one to never make it past week 14. That also means that the Bills have never made it to the Super Bowl where you're guaranteed three games.
The Rams and the Bears are the only two franchises to play in week 16 every single season. We know the Rams just barely kept that streak alive (Eagles lost a game by .08 so there's the difference). Neither team has always made teh playoffs but they've been able to win in the consolation bowls in weeks 14 and 15 when they didn't make it.
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| | | 96 | Great One
Sustainer
ID: 053272014
Fri, Dec 07, 2007, 11:39
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Hoping none of the playoff teams with Grossman or Campbell...
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| | | 97 | Myboyjack
ID: 8216923
Fri, Dec 07, 2007, 13:11
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LOL
In the last month+ or so I've lost:
Jason Campbell
Cedric Benson
Brandon Jacobs
Ronnie Brown.
The NFL should pay me not to put stars on my roster this year
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| | | 98 | Great One
Sustainer
ID: 053272014
Fri, Dec 07, 2007, 14:59
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If it makes you feel better, I have guys who ARE producing (Dayne - 100 ypg avg over last month, 2 TD's) and I couldn't get a playoff team to shoot me a mid round pick for him. Now he's just wasting away in NewYorkJetville... when he could have been helping someone.
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| | | 99 | Myboyjack
ID: 8216923
Fri, Dec 07, 2007, 16:49
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See - if I'd have got him he'd be in an ICU unti right now.
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| | | 100 | Great One
ID: 201155199
Sat, Dec 08, 2007, 17:45
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Mrs. Dayne should send you a thank you card.
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| | | 101 | THK
ID: 16117518
Sun, Dec 09, 2007, 14:21
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Another disappointing season...
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| | | 102 | StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Sun, Dec 09, 2007, 17:33
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Benching Selvin Young wasn't the brightest move. I had 3 to choose from at flex and pick the one that scores the least. Romo comes back strong and Chester Taylor busts a long run to sink my chances. Dilfer with his negative points isn't helping either.
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| | | 103 | blackjackis21
Dude
ID: 034837521
Sun, Dec 09, 2007, 17:47
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Wow - I need to fall asleep on the couch more often (or so I'll try to convince my wife). I fell asleep down 25 to 'Cards and wake up ahead by 10. I'd be a little surprised if Dilfer came out for the second half - he took a nasty hit to the head right at the end of 2Q.
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| | | 104 | StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Sun, Dec 09, 2007, 19:56
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Congrats BJ21 and good luck in the playoffs. My team just didn't show up today. Hard to take getting knocked out in the first round after having such a good season but that's what happens. Garcia out and then Dilfer knocked out, Brown left with an injury, Wilkins missing a FG, Shockey doing nothing, TO held to 2 points, it all adds up to one of my worst outputs of the year.
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| | | 105 | blackjackis21
Dude
ID: 034837521
Sun, Dec 09, 2007, 21:08
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Mm-hmm, and congrats and good luck to you too. You're only down by 3 or 4 right now and I don't like the way this game looks to be going. Though I do like my odds, that's probably a bad sign.
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| | | 106 | StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Sun, Dec 09, 2007, 23:19
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At least bj21 had to be a bit on edge till near the end. Congrats and well earned. Now do the South Division proud and win the whole thing!
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| | | 107 | blackjackis21
Dude
ID: 034837521
Mon, Dec 10, 2007, 00:16
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On edge indeed. I'm sick of having to watch the Baltimore Ravens and rooting for Bart Scott and against Ray Lewis. Happy to still be playing, however. Nice season Cards - hopefully I can keep on rolling.
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| | | 108 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Dec 10, 2007, 17:51
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Hope I didn't use up all my points this week! If someone would have suggested I'd be in the final 4 before the year started, I'd have told them to put down the pipe.
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| | | 109 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Dec 11, 2007, 00:53
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I saw something that was interesting. My LB Keiaho intercepted a pass but it was on a PAT try for 2. I didn't get credit for it. It makes perfect sense as the try is either good or no good.
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| | | 110 | mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Tue, Dec 11, 2007, 02:08
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Ref, what if that was returned to the other end zone?
Any score for that in this league? In the NFL it's worth what, one point?
Not a common occurrence, but it does happen once in a blue moon.
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| | | 111 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Dec 11, 2007, 09:52
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In NCAA it would have counted as an INT and a 2 pointer, but in the NFL the play is over when it is turned over. You can't run it back for points.
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| | | 112 | Great One
Sustainer
ID: 053272014
Tue, Dec 11, 2007, 10:09
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2 points in college, whistled dead in the NFL.
I remember that play when a team scored to go up 1 point in college with like 10 seconds left... then they went for 2 to make it a 3 point lead. Seems logical. Except it got picked and they went the other way... they lost by 1 point! lol...
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| | | 113 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Dec 11, 2007, 10:15
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Super Bowl Matchups:
AFC
#3 Ravens @ #1 Colts
NFC
#4 Rams @ #2 Cardinals
Consolation:
Bengals @ Raiders
Vikings at 49ers
Wanna-Be Bowl:
Texans @ Broncos
Cowboys @ Bills
Toilet Bowl:
Browns @ Chargers
Saints @ Seahawks
Pick-ems Standings (Drop low week 1-13)
Colts 186
Bears 179
Eagles 176
Jets 165
Chargers 169
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| | | 114 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Dec 11, 2007, 12:47
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Re: 112 OMG!
I saw this year in 3OT where they had to go for 2 and it was tied and it got picked and they almost ran it back to win it. It was a huge game just recently but can't remember who it was.
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| | | 115 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Dec 11, 2007, 12:51
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Grats to the Bills for winning their first ever postseason game. The Bears loss means for the first time they will not be playing in all 16 weeks. The Rams will now be the only franchise to do that as they have a guaranteed three games in the playoffs.
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| | | 116 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Dec 11, 2007, 14:07
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Franchise Standings/Records updated in standings forum.
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| | | 117 | Great One
Sustainer
ID: 053272014
Tue, Dec 11, 2007, 14:31
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Discussed a bit earlier, thought I would reiterate... I really think we should look at adding two more teams on each side and awarding bye weeks to the top 2 seeds (or division winners?) in each conference. I believe that would put an premium on winning your division and being rewarded with a bye.
It drives me insane (in other leagues) to watch a #1 get knocked off by a #8 seed cause the #8 got hot at the end of the season or had a lucky week. To me it makes the regular season pointless. Now I know we have 24 teams and divisions etc so the breakdown is different, but something worth looking at (if hasn't been already).
Is that something that was considered when the league was set up I assume? I know I came late to the party...
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| | | 118 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Dec 11, 2007, 14:37
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It's simply an impossibility because we throw week 17 out. We'd have to have our championship in week 17 or end our reg, season in week 12. No one wants to have the championship game feature several players resting.
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| | | 119 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Dec 11, 2007, 14:40
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Also we have #1 vs #4s in our div. games. Typically our playof teams are bunched up pretty well. For instance, even though #4 Rams beat #1 49ers, Rams is a quality team who could easily win it all. Just like the NFL, if you make the playoffs, you have a chance to win it all. Also, even though the #2 Raiders were beaten by the #3 Ravens, statistically it was not an upset at all--but he got the automatic #2 for winning the West.
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| | | 120 | Great One
Sustainer
ID: 053272014
Wed, Dec 12, 2007, 10:25
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Thats true - certainly only the cream of the crop makes its. 8 out of 24 teams is equivalent to only 4 making it in a standard sized league.
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| | | 121 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 22:48
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Slizz definitely has plans on winning again this week.
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| | | 122 | slizz@blackberry
ID: 219562614
Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 23:55
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:). Unfortunately I laid a huge egg in week 9 (or was it 10). Than of course I win out and am riding a 5 game streak...
Statement for next year...and now I have 3 qbs! Make me an offer!
Ideally I'd like to keep orton (bc I'm a bears fan and all)
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Dec 16, 2007, 12:08
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Spotting my opponent nearly 20 points before my guys go today is problematic. Add to the mix all of the injuries and uncertainties and I'll be holding my breath for awhile. Really hope I score a lot today so it doesn't come down to needing a big game from Berrian tomorrow.
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| | | 124 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Dec 16, 2007, 15:22
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Unbelievable how close the games are this week to this point.
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| | | 125 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Dec 16, 2007, 17:19
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Philly DST, Q. Mikell got an INT then fumbled it back to teh offense. If anyone has either of these two playing they will be adjusted.
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| | | 126 | Great One
ID: 201155199
Sun, Dec 16, 2007, 19:25
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Anyone get screwed with Westbrook's kneeling at the 1 yd line and giving up the TD?!
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| | | 127 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Dec 16, 2007, 19:27
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I did in RIFC AAA1. Could be the difference in 3rd place and winning it all. In fact there is a strong chance of that. Now I need some FGs by Gould tomorrow in that league. Playing DS too.
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| | | 128 | slizz@blackberry
ID: 219562614
Sun, Dec 16, 2007, 19:34
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I did!!!! Now I gotta sweat out my matchup with wiggs in 101 (advance to the finals) on mnf bc of that.
Kyle Orton and Bernard Berrian vs. Chester taylor with a 14 pt lead. So stupid to bench big ben. I'd have a 31 pt lead all but locking it up.
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| | | 129 | StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Sun, Dec 16, 2007, 23:33
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RE: 126
12 point swing for me. Not only did I lose the 6 for the TD, but that also saved 6 points for the Dallas DST who I am facing this week. I would only be down 1 point with Urlacher vs Greenway tomorrow, instead I'm down 13. Thanks for nothing Westbrook.
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| | | 130 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Dec 17, 2007, 01:11
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Well I feel very lucky to be playing for the championship. Who would've known?!?! Certainly not me. Fargas hasn't been horrible, but certinaly hasn't helped me and now he reportedly has a sprained ligament and it appears that Rhodes will be starting next week. Oh great. Another wasted trade. Betts has been on my bench the past two wees and of course he scored a TD each week...his first two of the year. Now that I'll have to start him again, he'll prob be back to his old ways.
Not to look a gift horse in the mouth. My team overall has been incredibly consistent. Not that my players really have been, but each week it seems different players step up and do well for me--while others go in the tank. So while I won't have many high scores, you'll usually need a good week to beat me. In fact, a good week will likely beat me. Barring negative games from bj's remaining two players, it looks like the only team to beat me from the NFC South (and just BARELY beat me at that) will be my opponent next week.
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| | | 131 | TB
ID: 111048300
Mon, Dec 17, 2007, 01:45
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Ref, great season. From any other player it would seem like a Cinderella season, but you always seem to find a way to be competitive and win. I don't really know who will be repping the NFC, but I do know I will be pulling for you to win another ring.
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| | | 132 | blackjackis21
Dude
ID: 034837521
Mon, Dec 17, 2007, 14:30
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Assuming I make it through tonight (would certainly take something crazy not to), I can't believe my collection of scrubs made it to the final. Pretty weird year in fantasy football - it's always a crapshoot, but seemed even more so this year. I guess I was fairly lucky to not have too many significant injuries, save for Terry Glenn (a last minute trade and a keeper for me) and DJ Hackett (my first draft pick).
I guess many of my guys have outperformed my expectations, especially lately; J. Lewis, C. Taylor, T. Romo and maybe R. Wayne. The Bears D really dropped off and my IDP players have been unspectacular but consistent.
I hope Romo's thumb is OK for next week - I think I'll need him.
Good luck Ref!
PS: now watch C. Taylor fumble the first play, get hurt, leave the game and the Bears give up 100 points tonight, leaving me with the loss.
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Dec 17, 2007, 14:38
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I hate that Fargas is likely out. Would much rather both of us be at full strength and have 'may the best team win' kind of thing happening. But in the end, all anyone will remember is the winner. So best of luck to you as well (assuming the worst of luck ever doesn't happen to you tonight). I really thought that CT was primed to take down the league this year.
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| | | 134 | AZ Cardinals
ID: 37262119
Mon, Dec 17, 2007, 18:34
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STL- I'm rooting for C Taylor to fumble, get hut and Kyle Orton light up the scoreboard....
Ok- done dreaming-
Of all weeks to lay an egg--F!!!
I will send Congrats when it's official!
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Dec 18, 2007, 10:57
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