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| Posted by: Guru
- [330592710] Thu, Jul 17, 2008, 11:08
I am pleased to announce the 14 managers for the 2008 RIFC:
I_AM_CANADIAN
Slackjawed Yokel
Smith32
Bags
Holt
Nerfherder
deepsnapper (pending acceptance)
LetterJ
Da Bomb
Electroman
Tree
FUGAZI
Slowhand
Guru
This list includes me, the top-6 non-me seeds from last year's RIFC, 3 teams from each AAA league, and the (playoff) winner of the AA league. For each AAA league, I selected the playoff winner plus the top two seeds for the playoffs. In the instance that the playoff winner was one of the top two seeds, then the third seed was selected.
I have heard back from everyone but deepsnapper, but I’m going to proceed on the assumption that he will be participating. If not, then #3 seed from his AAA league will be asked to fill that opening (Doug).
Although it is still early, there are several things that we can start on:
1. Sign-ups for qualifying leagues. I will start a separate thread for this.
2. Discussion of possible rules changes. (We can use this thread for that.)
3. Discussion of any other issues that should be resolved before the start of the draft.
I expect that the RIFC draft will start sometime around August 15, plus or minus a few days. I plan to draft using kafenatid.net software once again, and recent history suggests that we can knock off the draft in 2 weeks.
I have not yet reviewed the issues that arose during last season that might prompt rules changes (and/or clarifications). If anyone would like to skim through the various discussion threads from last year and post potential issues, please do so. I’ll copy over last year’s rules momentarily.
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| | | 1 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Jul 17, 2008, 11:20
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The following rules from 2007 are copied from last year's thread. I hope they are complete.
Changes & clarifications from prior rules are shown in italics
Roster
1 QB
2 RB
2 WR
1 WR/TE
1 TE
1 K
1 Team def
1 DL
1 LB
1 DB
3 additional IDP (flex)
9 bench
24 Total
Decimal scoring is applied for all categories.
Offense Category Points
(apply only to QB, RB, WR, TE, and K unless otherwise noted)
Passing TD 4
Other TD 6 (all TDs, whether on offense, defense, or special teams)
Passing-2pt conv 1
Other-2pt conv 2
Passing yard 1/25 (i.e., .04 per yard)
Rushing yard 1/10 (i.e., .10 per yard)
Receiving yard 1/10
Punt return yard 1/10 (also applies to IDP)
Kick return yard 1/25 (also applies to IDP)
Kick return 0 (no deduction)
Int, fumbles lost -2
Kicking Points
(apply only to QB, RB, WR, TE, and K)
Extra point made 1
Extra point missed -1
FG under 40 yards 3
FG 40-49 yards 4
FG 50+ yards 5
Missed FG <30 -1
Missed FG 30+ 0
Team Defense Points
(the following points apply only to team defenses)
Sack 1
Interception 2
Fumble recovered 2
TD 6 (excludes TDs on kick or punt returns)
Safety 3
Blocked kick 2
Shutout 10
1-6 defensive points allowed 7
7-13 defensive points allowed 4
14-20 defensive points allowed 1
21-27 defensive points allowed 0
28-34 defensive points allowed -1
35+ defensive points allowed -4
Defensive points allowed exclude TDs scored by the opposing special teams or the opposing defense (i.e., TDs on turnovers, kick/punt returns, or blocked kicks).
Points are assigned for yardage allowed according to the following table:
500+ yards allowed: 0 points
400-499 yards allowed: 1 point
300-399: 2
275-299: 3
250-274: 4
225-249: 5
200-224: 6
175-199: 7
150-174: 8
125-149: 9
under 125: 10
Indiv Defensive Players Points
(the following points apply only to DL, LB, and DB)
Solo Tackle 1
Asst Tackle 0.5
Pass defensed 1
Sack 3 (half sack=1.5)
Interception 3
Fumble forced 2
Fumble recovery 1
TD 6 (all TDs, whether on offense, defense, or special teams)
Safety 3
Unlisted players
During the draft, any player may be drafted, regardless of whether or not the player is listed at the hosting game site. Once the draft is completed, unlisted players may not be added to any roster. This applies for any post-draft waiver processing as well.
In the event that a drafted player is not listed after the draft has completed, a placeholder player will be assigned to the drafting team, to be replaced by the drafted player as soon as he is available.
Priority Claiming
All free agents (any players not on a current roster) are subject to a weekly claiming process at noon on Wednesday. Following the first 6 weeks of the season, the priorities will reset weekly based on the reverse of W/L percentage. After that, priorities will not be reset. Throughout the season, when a player is claimed (either via "free agent priority claim" or a waiver claim), the claiming team moves to the end of the claiming priority list. Following the final regular season game, priorities will be reset based on playoff seed, with the top seed getting the top priority. Thereafter, throughout the playoffs, priorities will again adjust only when a claim is awarded.
Starting at 1:00pm on Wednesday, all free agents may be picked up by any team "first come, first served" without any change in priority status.
(Immediately following the draft, undrafted players will be subject to a priority claiming process, with priorities equal to the reverse of the first round draft order.)
When a player is dropped from a roster, the player will go on waivers for 48 hours. At the end of the 48 hour period, if any team has placed a claim on the player, the team with the highest claiming priority will receive the player. If no claims are submitted, the player becomes a free agent at that time. If a player is dropped within 48 hours of his game freeze, he may not be claimed until the following week's free agent claiming process.
Starting five minutes prior to the scheduled start of each NFL game, no player in that game may be dropped, regardless of whether the player is an active or bench player.
Schedule
13 week round robin
Doubleheaders all weeks 1-13 (play each team twice)
Single elimination playoffs, weeks 14-16
Trades and trade deadline
During the draft, trades may include draft picks. Trades will normally be approved immediately by the Commissioner, assuming they are reasonably balanced. If league managers believe an announced trade is unbalanced, they should protest the trade ASAP.
After the draft, trades will be subject to a review period. For the first 24 hours following a trade, managers may protest a trade by posting a message at the RotoGuru forum, or by sending an email to the Commissioner. If at least 3 managers protest a trade within 24 hours of its announcement, then all managers will be polled within the next 24 hours. If seven or more managers vote to veto a trade, then it will not be approved. If a proposed trade is announced less than 24 hours before the earliest freeze for any player involved, then the entire trade will not be processed until the following week.
If a trade does not receive at least 3 protests, then it will be effective 24 hours after it is announced. If a trade receives at least 3 protests but the protests are not upheld in a full league vote, then the trade will be processed 48 hours after it is announced.
The trade deadline is 11:30pm EST on November 9.
Playoffs
8 teams
Top 6 W/L records are seeded 1-6
Top remaining total points are seeded 7-8
Teams with equivalent W/L records are seeded based on head-to-head first, then total points
Bracket is fixed (no reseeding after each round)
Players at the primary skill positions (QB, RB, WR) and team defenses may not be added for any reason during the playoffs. Free agents at these positions will be locked out after the final regular season game. You may drop a player at one of these positions, but once dropped, that player cannot be added later.
Players at the other positions (TE, PK, IDP) may be added or dropped according to normal regular season guidelines, subject to playoff claiming priorities, if applicable.
If a playoff game ends in a tie score, the team with the better seed shall advance.
Team which are not still active in the Championship playoffs may not make any transactions - adds or drops - even if they are still competing in the Consolation bracket.
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Jul 18, 2008, 13:04
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Westbrook not only cost me the championship--but an invite too! LOL
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| | | 3 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sun, Jul 20, 2008, 09:07
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I still haven't heard anything from deepsnapper. Anyone heard from him lately?
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| | | 4 | deepsnapper
Leader
ID: 017103420
Mon, Jul 21, 2008, 08:50
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sorry Guru, I had the computer turned off over the weekend. I am looking forward to playing in the RIFC this year.
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| | | 5 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Jul 21, 2008, 11:28
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Excellent! We have our 14.
Anyone have any thoughts on rules adjustments?
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| | | 6 | I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 16601918
Mon, Jul 21, 2008, 17:38
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More IDP? (Personal Preference)
The rules/game seems to be running pretty well right now, I must say though.
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| | | 7 | holt
ID: 341542412
Wed, Jul 23, 2008, 10:24
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I enjoy IDP's but I'm not sure that I want them to have any more scoring impact than they already do. right now we have 7 off slots (8 with the kicker) and 7 def slots. if you increase IDP any more then maybe offensive slots should also be increased (that's not a suggestion, just making a point).
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| | | 8 | judy
Sustainer
ID: 7771722
Wed, Jul 23, 2008, 12:57
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would anyone like this for offense?
1 QB
2 RB
1 RB/WR
1 WR
1 WR/TE
1 TE
Or would that make RB too valuable? It would certainly bring
more uncertainty to the table -- having to make even more
decisions...
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| | | 9 | Smith32
ID: 396101713
Wed, Jul 23, 2008, 16:18
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Part of what I like about the RIFC is that it is pretty standard in format (positions & scoring), so the draft serves as somewhat of a mock draft for many other leagues. Therefore, I don't really have any interest in changing it.
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| | | 10 | Tree
ID: 3533298
Wed, Jul 23, 2008, 16:24
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i like the offensive positions as they are. i think right now, adding a RB slot as more teams are going to RBBCs, really would present a difficult challenge.
yes, there will be more RBs out there this way, but your window for adjusting to the "right" RB in a RBBC would be much shorter.
defensively, i wouldn't mind seeing the three flex slots become one flex spot, with a mandatory second LB and a mandatory secondDB. 3 flex positions on D just seems too much to me.
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| | | 11 | culdeus
ID: 96562421
Fri, Jul 25, 2008, 19:35
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Wait, so are the changes in italics from 06 to 07 or 07 to 08. I'm confused.
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| | | 12 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Jul 25, 2008, 21:32
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The changes are from 06 to 07. We haven't made any changes in 08 (yet).
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| | | 14 | culdeus
ID: 96562421
Sun, Jul 27, 2008, 22:26
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[i]All free agents (any players not on a current roster) are subject to a weekly claiming process at noon on Wednesday. Following the first 6 weeks of the season, the priorities will reset weekly based on the reverse of W/L percentage.[/i]
This seems like a step in the right direction and from what I recall a change from 06, I guess. Why reset it only one time at week 6 though? Why not each week from week 6 on in that manner?
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| | | 15 | culdeus
ID: 96562421
Sun, Jul 27, 2008, 22:52
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My top three things that I think could be done better outside of my 1000 word treastie back in 05 on the waiver system.
-Team D as it's constructed primarily is a contest to find a team that gets the most turnovers. With the way the league calls penalties now the days of holding a team to less or equal to 6 points are exceedingly rare.
Possible solutions: Normalize it with yards against as a component. Or better yet eliminate altogether.
-Too many teams make the playoffs and nothing from the regular season is carried forward. Absolutely no reason to have 8 get in for a 14 team league. I do imagine this is set in stone, however and it's not a pay league so the "more the merrier" axiom applies I guess.
Possible solutions: Let 6 in by record and top two points for amongst those 6 get a bye. Perhaps carry forward a regular season portion through each week. A "home field advantage" of sorts PF1-PF2 for each week.
-QB scoring. .04 4/-2 for a 14 team league is imbalanced leading to a flattening of the dropoff curve. Obviously was put in around the Vick era which has now come and gone. Time to update.
Solution: .05 4/-2
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| | | 16 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sun, Jul 27, 2008, 23:14
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[14/15] Priority system is the same as in 2006. I think it was changed for that season. However, I do see that the wording is messed up. It should say "for the first 6 weeks of the season..." (not following)
Team D does have a yardage against component.
Methods to provide a better "home field advantage" to the top seeds have been proposed - and defeated - previously. First round byes were specifically defeated.
We could certainly entertain a bump in the passing yardage from .04 to .05.
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| | | 17 | culdeus
ID: 96562421
Sun, Jul 27, 2008, 23:48
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Ah, missed the YA portion of TeamD. Very well then.
Too bad about the playoffs, but like I said with no cash involved it changes the mindset of people somewhat (and understandably so). You want everyone to be focused as long as possible. A more inclusive playoffs accomplishes that.
So I guess I've forgotten the waivers. The way I read the above statement.
Weeks 1-5 rotating and non-resetting order
Weeks 6-end weekly reset based on W-L percentage.
I don't think I could have drawn up a better one and I actually think I might push that out into some of my other leagues this year. Simple and to some extent groundbreaking. Takes out the "bad week 1 rebound" as well as keeps the dregs in the hunt for the injury replacements. In many ways superior to bidding.
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| | | 18 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Jul 28, 2008, 20:54
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An email has just been sent to all RIFC managers with registration instructions for the draft at kafenatid.net. In addition, new managers should receive an invitation email directly from Fanball. Please register at both Fanball and kafenatid.net as soon as possible, so that I know everyone is on board. (Returning managers do not need to re-register at Fanball, but please login and check your team, just to make sure you remember how to do it.)
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| | | 19 | I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 466141317
Mon, Jul 28, 2008, 21:18
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I'm in... Fanball and Kafenatid both ok. :)
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| | | 20 | Slowhand
SuperDude
ID: 056744223
Tue, Jul 29, 2008, 00:24
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I'm in..
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| | | 21 | holt
ID: 1643296
Tue, Jul 29, 2008, 07:49
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it was probably already stated but I can't find it. when do we start drafting, roughly? not that I'm anywhere close to being ready...
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| | | 22 | Nerfherders
ID: 501035289
Tue, Jul 29, 2008, 16:09
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Curious about that too since I will be having a busy August this year.
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| | | 23 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Jul 29, 2008, 16:11
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Here's the tentative schedule:
July 30-August 5: Vote on potential rule changes, if any.
August 6: Begin the draft selection round (i.e., choosing the draft order)
August 15(approx): Begin draft.
I could actually be persuaded to defer the start of the draft until Monday, August 18, if that's better than starting on a weekend.
Are there any dates in the second half of August that will be problematic for anyone?
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| | | 24 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Jul 29, 2008, 16:19
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So far, I've really only heard two viable rules proposals. I'm not in favor of adding a RB/WR slot - RBs are too scarce as it is.
One proposal would be to nail down some of the positions for the 3 flex IDPs. For example, instead of the current DL,LB,DB,flex,flex,flex make it DL,LB,LB,DB,DB,flex.
The other proposal is to change the yardage factor for QB passing yards from .04 to .05, effectively adding one full point per 100 passing yards.
Are there any other ideas to consider? Should the IDP proposal be worded differently?
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| | | 25 | judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Tue, Jul 29, 2008, 16:40
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hi Guru,
Would these proposed changes, if passed, be used by us in AAA
as well?
For the IDP, I would prefer what we have -- DL, LB, DB, 3 FLEX.
I don't like the idea of a max of 2 DL since they are often the
sack guys. The 3 FLEX also lets you survive injuries and the bye
weeks without having to make too many changes to your IDP
roster.
Also in Fanball, I used 1 point per 25 yards instead of 0.04 per
yard. Mathematically they are the same, but will both work for
the proper points? ( if we change it, then 1/20 = 0.05). I like
that change.
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| | | 26 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Jul 29, 2008, 16:45
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Judy:
If you don't use the decimal system, it will only work out to the same if it's exactly 25 yards. Therefore needs to be the .04 etc.
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| | | 27 | judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Tue, Jul 29, 2008, 16:49
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OK --I'll fix it. Thanks.
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| | | 28 | judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Tue, Jul 29, 2008, 17:01
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Fixed passing, rushing and receiving as well.
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| | | 29 | culdeus
ID: 96562421
Tue, Jul 29, 2008, 20:22
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Yeah, the more mandatory IDP slots you force the bigger a bench you need. It would be hard to implement that plan without an addl. roster spot.
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| | | 30 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Jul 29, 2008, 20:35
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FTR, I really like the rules being discussed as they are now. QBs can be powerful enough w/o giving them more across the board. I agree with culdeus on the IDP. I know my vote doesn't count though! ;)
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| | | 31 | Electroman
ID: 12638144
Wed, Jul 30, 2008, 00:19
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I like the idea of starting the draft on the weekend. I have more available time around a computer, especially for the early rounds.
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| | | 32 | Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Wed, Jul 30, 2008, 00:30
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My access is very spotty in the weekday daytimes until Aug 22nd. So starting after that would be my preference, though that seems unlikely.
I would also vote to keep the IDP positions the way they are set up currently.
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| | | 33 | Tree
ID: 6626305
Wed, Jul 30, 2008, 06:28
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I like the idea of starting the draft on the weekend. I have more available time around a computer, especially for the early rounds.
are we looking at a slow draft? or a fast draft? i seem to have missed that post...
even so, weekends have traditionally been "off the clock" times for drafts, so starting on a weekend seems counterproductive to me.
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| | | 34 | I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 466141317
Wed, Jul 30, 2008, 10:06
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RIFC is always slow draft w/rationals posted from 2 rounds prior.
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| | | 35 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Jul 30, 2008, 11:16
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We could start on August 15 on an untimed basis. Clock would then start on Monday morning.
The subsequent weekend(s) would NOT be untimed, however. Do not plan to take the weekends off. Make use of queues or designated pickers if needed.
We cannot wait until Aug 22 to start. Based on recent drafts, we should expect this draft to take about 2 weeks. The first regular season game is Sept 4th, and we need to allow for a few days of slack.
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| | | 36 | Tree
ID: 3533298
Wed, Jul 30, 2008, 11:19
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guru - what time is the clock "on" during the weekends, and how much time between picks? i might have missed it above, but i didn't see it.
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| | | 37 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Jul 30, 2008, 11:33
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I've decided not to put the IDP issue to a vote. I'm convinced that the status quo (one of each plus 3 flex) is the best way to go, particularly with regard to bench/bye management.
I will, however, put the QB passing yardage factor to a vote. Our previous yardage factor was .04 per yard (1/25). The proposal is to move it up to .05 (1/20).
The impact of the change would be to put a little more spread in the range of QB points. While all QB points would be lifted somewhat, the absolute level of QB points relative to other positions is not very relevant, since every team must start one and only one QB.
As an example of the impact on last year's stats, and ignoring Brady as an extreme outlier, the range of points between the #2 ranked QB (Romo) and the #14 ranked QB (Garrard) was 107 points. If this change is adopted, the comparable gap between 2-14 would have been 120 points. (Eli Manning would have jumped over Garrard to be the 14th ranked QB.) The change would have relatively benefited the QBs with higher passing yardage, with guys like Brees, Favre, and Palmer moving up in the relative rankings.
So here is the proposal:
(A) Keep the QB passing yardage factor at .04
(B) Increase the QB passing yardage factor to .05
Please vote (A) or (B). Voting begins now, and is open to the 14 managers in the RIFC league only.
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| | | 38 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Jul 30, 2008, 11:39
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Typically, the invitational leagues have employed a 6 hour clock. The clock is paused between 1am and 7am ET. I know that the pause times extend late for easterners and end early for westerners, but with a 6 hour pause, this still provides a 12 hour window for any pick which extends through the pause period, which should be ample.
Picks can continue to be made during the moratorium period. The clock will be paused, but the draft may proceed. Those picking at the endpoints do not get a double clock. In addition, if anyone is already in arrears for a pick when their next pick is due, they do not necessarily get a second clock period.
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| | | 39 | Tree
ID: 3533298
Wed, Jul 30, 2008, 11:57
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thanks.
i vote B on the above.
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| | | 40 | Electroman
ID: 12638144
Wed, Jul 30, 2008, 13:31
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B
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| | | 41 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Jul 30, 2008, 14:00
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A few housekeeping updates.
The following managers have not yet registered for the draft at kafenatid.net:
Slackjawed Yokel
Holt
LetterJ
Fugazi
The following new managers have not yet registered at Fanball:
LetterJ
The following returning managers have not yet logged into Fanball:
(technically not necessary, but it does let me know that you remember your ID and password.)
Slackjawed Yokel
Holt
Nerfherders
I know we have plenty of time, but please take care of this ASAP. I'll be on vacation from August 1-12, and would prefer not to have to keep following up on this during that time.
If you did not receive your email with registration instructions, let me know.
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| | | 42 | Nerfherders
ID: 501035289
Wed, Jul 30, 2008, 16:04
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(B
I am planning to be on the road from the 18th until the 22nd. I will probably have nightly internet access during that time, but that isn't even garunteed, depending on how my laptop likes the hotel's internet. I understand if the draft cannot be delayed, I will just have to work around it with queues and such.
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| | | 43 | Bags
ID: 23412218
Wed, Jul 30, 2008, 17:06
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8/15 is a good start date for me.
I vote for B.
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| | | 44 | Slowhand
SuperDude
ID: 056744223
Wed, Jul 30, 2008, 17:27
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I vote for B
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| | | 45 | I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 466141317
Wed, Jul 30, 2008, 20:05
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I really don't care .4 or .5 so I guess my vote is for A... (to be different, and cause I had no complaints about how QBs were scored last year)
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| | | 46 | Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Thu, Jul 31, 2008, 00:45
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Vote: A
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| | | 47 | holt
ID: 15621316
Thu, Jul 31, 2008, 07:23
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vote A
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| | | 48 | Smith32
ID: 396101713
Thu, Jul 31, 2008, 08:01
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A
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| | | 49 | deepsnapper
Leader
ID: 017103420
Fri, Aug 01, 2008, 20:56
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vote = B
no preference on start date.
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| | | 50 | fugazi
ID: 46750221
Sat, Aug 02, 2008, 22:52
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vote - A
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| | | 51 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Aug 05, 2008, 09:48
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Still awaiting votes from Slackjawed Yokel and Letter J. I just sent out another email reminder to those two.
Those two plus fugazi still need to register at kafenatid.
Once we complete the vote, we will begin the process to select draft position.
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| | | 52 | LetterJ
ID: 46752510
Tue, Aug 05, 2008, 11:56
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have registered at fanball and I vote for the status quo: A.
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| | | 53 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Aug 05, 2008, 13:20
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The vote is currently 6-6. Only Slackjaw and I have yet to vote.
I'm going to cast my vote for A. I'm rather ambivalent, and if there is no groundswell of support for change, I would prefer to leave it the same. So even if Slackjawed Yokel were to vote B, the tally would be 7-7 and the proposal would not pass.
Thus, the scoring rules will remain the same as last year.
The next item on the agenda is the selection of our draft order. I need two league managers to send me a list of integers 1-14 sorted in any order. The first will be used to resequence an alphabetical listing of managers, and the second will assign selection order for this process. After I have received both lists, I will post the results here and we can begin.
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| | | 54 | Smith32
ID: 25751421
Tue, Aug 05, 2008, 22:22
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Guru - list of integers sent.
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| | | 55 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Aug 05, 2008, 22:41
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I have two sets of integers - will post results shortly...
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| | | 56 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Aug 05, 2008, 22:48
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For full transparency, IAC sent this list:
1 4 9 12 2 10 14 8 13 5 3 7 11 6
Smith32 then sent this list:
3 11 7 4 14 12 9 5 2 8 1 13 10 6
I used the first set to resequence an alphabetical list of managers. I then lined up the second set to assign selection order. This produces the following order for the draft2:
1 Smith32
2 deepsnapper
3 Bags
4 Da Bomb
5 I_AM_CANADIAN
6 Holt
7 Slackjawed Yokel
8 Guru
9 Slowhand
10 LetterJ
11 FUGAZI
12 Tree
13 Electroman
14 Nerfherder
I encourage others to check my work, if you wish. I think I've followed the ground rules, but brain cramps can never be discounted.
We may start making these selections immediately. There is no "clock" for this round, but please try to keep it moving.
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| | | 57 | Slackjawed Yokel
Leader
ID: 052347519
Wed, Aug 06, 2008, 00:36
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sorry for the delays. I'll be logging in/registering/etc promptly.
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| | | 58 | Slackjawed Yokel
Leader
ID: 052347519
Wed, Aug 06, 2008, 00:41
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...and for what it's worth I probably would have voted to leave it the same
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| | | 59 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Aug 06, 2008, 09:37
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Fugazi and Letter J still need to register for the draft at kafenatid. (Let me know if you need me to resend the instructions.)
Nerfherders is the only team that has not yet logged into Fanball (since last season).
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| | | 60 | Nerfherders
ID: 501035289
Wed, Aug 06, 2008, 11:56
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I am not following the math on the draft order there. I would never be last or 6th on an alphabetical list.
As an example, If Bags were 1 on a alphabetical list, re-signed to 1, and then re-signed to 13, how does he end up 3rd? I guess I am just being stupid, but I don't follow this.
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| | | 61 | Smith32
ID: 396101713
Wed, Aug 06, 2008, 12:25
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I'll take draft position #1.
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| | | 62 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Aug 06, 2008, 13:06
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I start with this list of managers:
Bags
Da Bomb
deepsnapper
Electroman
FUGAZI
Guru
Holt
I_AM_CANADIAN
LetterJ
Nerfherder
Slackjawed Yokel
Slowhand
Smith32
Tree
I then align the first set of numbers alongside that list, and resort it. That produces this listing:
Bags
FUGAZI
Slackjawed Yokel
Da Bomb
Nerfherder
Tree
Slowhand
I_AM_CANADIAN
deepsnapper
Guru
Smith32
Electroman
LetterJ
Holt
I then align the second set of numbers alongside that list, and resort it. That produces the final listing:
Smith32
deepsnapper
Bags
Da Bomb
I_AM_CANADIAN
Holt
Slackjawed Yokel
Guru
Slowhand
LetterJ
FUGAZI
Tree
Electroman
Nerfherder
So in the case of Nerfherder, he starts in alphabetical position #10. THe first set of numbers reassigns him to position #5. The second list then reassigns him to position #14 (since the fifth number in the sefond list if 14).
Capiche?
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| | | 63 | Nerfherders
ID: 501035289
Wed, Aug 06, 2008, 13:17
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Okay, got it. I guess I don't need to pick a draft slot then. :)
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| | | 64 | deepsnapper
Leader
ID: 017103420
Thu, Aug 07, 2008, 01:17
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I'll take #5
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| | | 65 | Bags @ work
ID: 206162514
Thu, Aug 07, 2008, 10:38
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I'll take #3
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| | | 66 | Tree
ID: 3533298
Thu, Aug 07, 2008, 11:44
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as we pick our slots, can we please post the names and draft positions?
kind of like this:
Smith32 - 1
deepsnapper - 5
Bags - 3
Da Bomb
I_AM_CANADIAN
Holt
Slackjawed Yokel
Guru
Slowhand
LetterJ
FUGAZI
Tree
Electroman
Nerfherder
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| | | 67 | deepsnapper
Leader
ID: 017103420
Thu, Aug 07, 2008, 17:03
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Nice idea Tree, and I'd suggest emailing the next person in line to let them know they're up to pick.
I used the email @ Fanball to notify Bags. It's easy to ID everyone there.
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| | | 68 | Tree
ID: 38720720
Thu, Aug 07, 2008, 21:21
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at this point, i think people oughta be checking this thread a couple times a day, easy.
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| | | 69 | deepsnapper
Leader
ID: 017103420
Thu, Aug 07, 2008, 23:06
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I didn't say not check the thread, I just thought an email might help move things along. You don't have to email if you don't want to.
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| | | 70 | Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Thu, Aug 07, 2008, 23:33
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Smith32 - 1
deepsnapper - 5
Bags - 3
Da Bomb - 2
I_AM_CANADIAN
Holt
Slackjawed Yokel
Guru
Slowhand
LetterJ
FUGAZI
Tree
Electroman
Nerfherders
Sorry for the delay. I checked in earlier but totally missed Bags' post somehow.
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| | | 71 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Aug 07, 2008, 23:38
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Everyone has registered for the draft (at kafenatid.net) except for Fugazi
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| | | 72 | I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 466141317
Fri, Aug 08, 2008, 06:11
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Smith32 - 1
deepsnapper - 5
Bags - 3
Da Bomb - 2
I_AM_CANADIAN - 4
Holt
Slackjawed Yokel
Guru
Slowhand
LetterJ
FUGAZI
Tree
Electroman
Nerfherders
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| | | 73 | holt
ID: 15621316
Fri, Aug 08, 2008, 07:17
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Smith32 - 1
deepsnapper - 5
Bags - 3
Da Bomb - 2
I_AM_CANADIAN - 4
Holt - 6
Slackjawed Yokel
Guru
Slowhand
LetterJ
FUGAZI
Tree
Electroman
Nerfherders
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| | | 74 | Slackjawed Yokel
Leader
ID: 052347519
Fri, Aug 08, 2008, 18:48
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Smith32 - 1
deepsnapper - 5
Bags - 3
Da Bomb - 2
I_AM_CANADIAN - 4
Holt - 6
Slackjawed Yokel - 7
Guru
Slowhand
LetterJ
FUGAZI
Tree
Electroman
Nerfherders
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| | | 75 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Aug 08, 2008, 20:30
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Smith32 - 1
deepsnapper - 5
Bags - 3
Da Bomb - 2
I_AM_CANADIAN - 4
Holt - 6
Slackjawed Yokel - 7
Guru - 8
Slowhand
LetterJ
FUGAZI
Tree
Electroman
Nerfherders
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| | | 76 | Slowhand-at-work
ID: 217758
Fri, Aug 08, 2008, 21:16
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Smith32 - 1
deepsnapper - 5
Bags - 3
Da Bomb - 2
I_AM_CANADIAN - 4
Holt - 6
Slackjawed Yokel - 7
Guru - 8
Slowhand - 9
LetterJ
FUGAZI
Tree
Electroman
Nerfherders
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| | | 77 | Slowhand
SuperDude
ID: 056744223
Sun, Aug 10, 2008, 00:25
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FWIW I just emailed LetterJ again...I also emailed him right after I picked. Hopefully he'll check in soon.
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| | | 79 | deepsnapper
Leader
ID: 017103420
Sun, Aug 10, 2008, 09:26
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I sent him one last night to the Fanball email addy. Any guesses on the draft slot he'll pick?
60/40% for spots #10/#14. I'd go with #10 myself.
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| | | 80 | Tree
ID: 7728108
Sun, Aug 10, 2008, 13:14
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hmmm...more than 24 hours...
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| | | 81 | I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 466141317
Sun, Aug 10, 2008, 21:32
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He's a weekday guy. He will rarely have access on the weekends, but will most likely make the extra effort during the draft to keep it moving.
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| | | 82 | Letter_J
ID: 2865796
Mon, Aug 11, 2008, 10:05
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So sorry for the delay...I purchased an IPhone to make internet access easier on the weekends and it has not been up for two days...
I'll pick in the 10 slot...
Sorry again...it will not happen during the draft.
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| | | 83 | fugazi
ID: 46750221
Mon, Aug 11, 2008, 15:59
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Smith32 - 1
deepsnapper - 5
Bags - 3
Da Bomb - 2
I_AM_CANADIAN - 4
Holt - 6
Slackjawed Yokel - 7
Guru - 8
Slowhand - 9
LetterJ - 10
FUGAZI - 11
Tree
Electroman
Nerfherders
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| | | 84 | Tree
ID: 3533298
Mon, Aug 11, 2008, 17:07
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Smith32 - 1
deepsnapper - 5
Bags - 3
Da Bomb - 2
I_AM_CANADIAN - 4
Holt - 6
Slackjawed Yokel - 7
Guru - 8
Slowhand - 9
LetterJ - 10
FUGAZI - 11
Tree - 12
Electroman
Nerfherders
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| | | 85 | Electroman
ID: 12638144
Mon, Aug 11, 2008, 17:47
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Smith32 - 1
deepsnapper - 5
Bags - 3
Da Bomb - 2
I_AM_CANADIAN - 4
Holt - 6
Slackjawed Yokel - 7
Guru - 8
Slowhand - 9
LetterJ - 10
FUGAZI - 11
Tree - 12
Electroman - 14
Nerfherders - 13
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| | | 86 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Aug 13, 2008, 10:42
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I'll be on the road most of today. Tomorrow, I'll get organized for the draft and post the ground rules.
The draft will start on Friday, although on an untimed basis. Even though we will have no clock until Monday, it would be helpful to know in advance if anyone expects to be significantly delayed or unavailable during the opening weekend, so that others will be aware and prepared.
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| | | 87 | Smith32
ID: 25751421
Wed, Aug 13, 2008, 22:41
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I will be unavailable from 8-5 ET on Friday. If we can "turn on" the
draft before then, I'll make my pick and get things started. I'd
enter my pick into a queue, but the draft has to be turned on for
me to do that.
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| | | 88 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Aug 14, 2008, 13:22
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I just started the draft software. You can now set your designated pickers and/or queues. If managers want to start picking when it is their turn, feel free - although the early activation is not for the purpose of getting a jump in the draft, but simply to enable managers with limited access to get a head start on queues and DPs.
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| | | 89 | Slowhand-at-work
ID: 217758
Thu, Aug 14, 2008, 22:49
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Will likely make no difference since I pick 9th; but I will be at a golf tournament tommorrow and will not be around til mid to late afternoon. Hopefully it won't get to me as my team is much better at drinking than golfing; and as Team Captain it is up to me to lead my team to.....
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