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- Sustainer [04991311] Mon, Dec 15, 2008, 13:46
If Dallas wins out and the Giants lose out could Dallas win the East?
They would both be 11-5 overall, 4-2 division and 8-4 conference- What is the next tie breaker? |
| | | 1 | WiddleAvi
ID: 346482111
Mon, Dec 15, 2008, 13:51
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I think next is record vs. common opponents.
Definitly an exciting playoff race this year.
In the AFC you have Tenn & Pitt with 1st round byes and in all liklyhood Den. in the west and Mia or NYJ in the east. Baltimore & Indy get the 5&6 seeds and I see them both winning the wild card round. Would not suprise me to see Baltimore & Indy then upset Pitt & Tenn.
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| | | 2 | wiggs
Sustainer
ID: 04991311
Mon, Dec 15, 2008, 14:01
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If thats the case i think the Giants win the tie breaker by 1- That pittsburgh loss kills the cowboys.
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| | | 3 | weykool
ID: 2842717
Mon, Dec 15, 2008, 14:13
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According to Yahoo:
1. New York Giants (11-3) – Have clinched the NFC East title. Currently own the tiebreaker over Carolina because of a better conference winning percentage (.800-.600), but play the Panthers at home in Week 16.
5. Dallas Cowboys (9-5) – Own the head-to-head tiebreaker (1-0) between the three teams over Atlanta (1-1) and Tampa Bay (1-2) for the first wild-card spot.
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| | | 4 | WiddleAvi
ID: 346482111
Mon, Dec 15, 2008, 14:24
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From NFL.com on tie breakers for 2 teams in one division
1.Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs).
2.Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
3.Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
4.Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
5.Strength of victory.
6.Strength of schedule.
7.Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
8.Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
9.Best net points in common games.
10.Best net points in all games.
11.Best net touchdowns in all games.
12.Coin toss
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| | | 5 | weykool
ID: 2842717
Mon, Dec 15, 2008, 14:40
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Interesting that both of the #1 and #2 seeds in each conference play each other week 16.
In both cases the winner will clinch homefield throughout.
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| | | 6 | J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Mon, Dec 15, 2008, 15:59
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I think the Steelers would still need a win or a Tennessee loss in Week 17 to clinch if they beat the Titans
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| | | 7 | Nerfherders
ID: 347242717
Mon, Dec 15, 2008, 17:37
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Steelers, NY Giants, Cardinals, Titans have clinched their divisions.
Carolina is one win and/or one loss from ATL or TB from clinching.
NY Jets and Dolphins can clinch the AFC East by winning their last two games. Jets and 'phins play eachother in the last game. New England loses the tiebreaker with either of these teams if they are both 11-5.
Minnesota has the tiebreaker over the Bears if they both end up at 10-6 or 9-7.
Broncos can clinch with a win or Charger loss.
Panthers can get #1 seed by winning ther last 2 games (one against the Giants)
Steelers can get #1 seed by winning their last 2 games (one against the Titans)
Bucs have the tie-breaker over the Falcons for wild-card.
Eagles can get a wild-card by winning out and a Falcons or TB loss (they play the Cowboys).
NE can get a wild-card by winning out and a Ravens loss.
That's all off the top of my head. It's a strange season as there's probably going to be a couple 10-6 teams left out, and possibly even a couple 11-5 teams left out, which is unheard of - has it ever happened?
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| | | 8 | DWetzel at work
ID: 49962710
Wed, Dec 17, 2008, 15:21
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Playoffs, schmayoffs. Have the Lions clinched the #1 draft pick yet?
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| | | 9 | judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Wed, Dec 17, 2008, 16:34
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Gotta be rooting for a Minny win over Matty Ice and/or a San Diego win over Tampa.
GO EAGLES!!
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| | | 10 | Slizz
ID: 4710371415
Thu, Dec 18, 2008, 07:49
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Gotta go with Matty Ice to keep my Bears playoff hopes alive!
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| | | 11 | Electroman
ID: 47928246
Sat, Dec 20, 2008, 23:41
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Well, Looks like a Dallas loss with a minute to go. I wonder how many owners are dropping Jason Garrett off their interview list after the way the offense has performed the last couple of weeks. Sure they faced tough D's, but that is where you make a name for yourself. Dallas better draft a QB too, to bad they traded a bunch of picks away. They gotta get rid to T.O. too. They need help to get in. If another friend of the Eagles can do them a favor tommorow, that would be for the vikes to beat the Falcons, and the Eagles need to take care of business the next couple of weeks.
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| | | 12 | Nerfherders
ID: 347242717
Tue, Dec 23, 2008, 12:09
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Eagles can still get in but it will be a tough road - talk about failure on offense. I have no idea where that ineptitude came from!
Eagles need to win, a TB loss AND Minn or Chi loss.
Dolphins get in with a win.
Jets get in with a win and NE loss.
NE gets in with a win and a Dolphins loss. OR a win and Baltimore loss.
Baltimore gets in with a win or a NE loss.
SD vs. Den for the division
Carolina gets the division with a win.
Atlanta gets the division with a win and CAR loss.
Dallas vs. Chicago - not sure who has the tiebreaker there. Wasn't expecting the Bears to be in the mix.
TB can get in with a win and Dallas loss.
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| | | 13 | judy
ID: 597401015
Wed, Dec 24, 2008, 17:29
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Eagles ineptitude comes and will continue to come from a head coach who cannot game
manage on game day. A head coach who does not believe in running the ball although
repeatedly his team wins when the offense is balanced.
I sincerely hope that we keep Donovan (Would you believe that Kolb would fare any
better in this offense???) and dump Andy -- even the players are sounding frustrated,
although they have to be careful:
Runyan, when asked to agree that the Eagles should run more, finally answered: "It's not
going to happen." I truly think, especially reading Westie's body language and voice in
his postgame interview Sunday night, that Andy is losing this team. The players believe
in the run and want to run more, but he refuses.
That said, I expect them to work really hard to crush Dallas even though they will know
ahead of time if they can get in with a win (Poor NFL scheduling there -- also for the
Jets, NE and MIA scenarios. Not really fair to the teams involved with so much on the
line.)
Thank goodness we won the World Series!
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| | | 14 | TD
Leader
ID: 036331011
Wed, Dec 24, 2008, 17:49
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Even if the Eagles don't have chance to get in at game time, they can still knock the Cowboys out of the playoffs. It was great seeing the Cowboys lose the final game at Texas stadium.
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| | | 15 | money4later
ID: 2111213116
Wed, Dec 24, 2008, 19:16
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(14) - being a Cowboys fan, I'm hurt...lol
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| | | 16 | Electroman
ID: 47928246
Wed, Dec 24, 2008, 20:35
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If the players would catch the ball, that would solve a lot of problems for the Eagles. I didn't watch the whole game, but the first half. The couldn't run the ball. Some days it is like that. Wasn't it Marty who was calling plays anyways? And as for getting rid of Reid, who would you bring in? Reid is a great coach. He would be on the top of the list of many teams if he was out there. Could you bring in Cowher? That would be the caliber of coach that you would have to bring in, otherwise it is a big dropoff. Has he lost the team, I don't think so. When I look back on the season, I will think of a season of dropped passed and not being able to run for short yardage.
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| | | 17 | Donkey Hunter
ID: 3210231917
Thu, Dec 25, 2008, 07:29
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Didnt they just lose the last game at Texas stadium last week?
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| | | 18 | judy
ID: 597401015
Fri, Dec 26, 2008, 14:54
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Apparently D Jackson had two "significant injuries" last week -- the ribs and something
they won't tell us -- that impacted his catching abilities.
GO EAGLES -- smash DALLAS!
Then, go get a very good experienced WR to throw to for next year! Please???
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| | | 19 | Electroman
ID: 47928246
Sun, Dec 28, 2008, 16:14
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I cannot believe that I am about to watch a chance for the Eagles to go into the playoffs. I could kiss Michael Bush on the mouth.
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| | | 20 | judy
ID: 487162821
Sun, Dec 28, 2008, 16:14
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Wow -- do you believe in miracles?
GO EAGLES!!!!!!!
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| | | 21 | Electroman
ID: 47928246
Mon, Dec 29, 2008, 13:40
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It is time for some playoff predictions, here is how I see the playoffs working out:
Chargers over the Colts. I don't believe the hype of the Colts, plus it is the playoffs, and despite winning a super bowl, Manning stinks out the joint.
Falcons over the Cards. Cards have a high powered offense, but so do the Falcons. Falcons can run the ball, and therefore control the clock.
Ravens over the Phins. This is a hard one, but you have to like the way the Ravens have played D. But the Phins could surprise me.
Eagles over the Vikes. I think that the strengths and weaknesses work in favor of Philly. But they have to perform. If the same team that lost to Washington shows up, it will be a long game.
Round 2
Ravens over the Titans. I think that the Titans would be over matched by this team. I think the difference could be Flacco making some plays.
Chargers over the Steelers. I don't believe the hype of the Steelers. I think that the Bolts would score just enough to beat them, as the Steelers have a hard time scoring.
Eagles over the Giants. This is my heart speaking, but I do believe that the Eagles are the better team. Giants have not made a statement to end off the year. You can't blame injuries, everybody has them.
Panthers over the Falcons. I haven't watched enough of these two teams, but both can run the ball. I give it to the home team.
Conference Championship
Ravens over the Chargers. I just really like how the Ravens are playing. I think that they would overwhelm the Chargers, plus they are able to put points on the board.
Panthers over the Eagles. This would be a close game, but the Panthers at home, would be able to beat by beloved Eagles.
SuperBowl
I am picking a Ravens Vs Panthers SB. I think that I would take the Panthers to win.
This is how I see it.
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| | | 22 | DWetzel
ID: 278201415
Mon, Dec 29, 2008, 14:12
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My predictions, which are likely to move the Vegas lines (in the opposite direction):
Eagles over Vikings: 9-6-1 in a tough division is better than 9-7 in a sucktastic one.
Cardinals over Falcons: For absolutely no logical reason whatsoever.
Colts over Chargers: Name one position where the Chargers are significantly better.
Now, take into account that LT has a tweaked groin, so cross him off the list.
Now, look at your basically blank list.
Dolphins over Ravens: Best game of the first round. A Ravens defense that thrives on turnovers runs into the QB least likely to make stupid mistakes.
Round 2: Giants over Eagles: A fairly close game. Home field makes a big difference.
Panthers over Cardinals: A not very close game.
Titans over Colts: In a very close game. I could see this going either way.
Steelers over Dolphins: If Roethlisberger is hurt, though, this could be an upset, beacuse the fish can run the ball.
Conf. championship: Giants over Panthers. We just saw this a couple of weeks ago; expect a lower scoring version.
Titans over Steelers: Just too much Tennessee defense and running in this one.
SB: Titans over Giants. This is the one game where no Plazico hurts the Giants most. A team ideally suited to stop a power running game will do just that.
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| | | 23 | judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Mon, Dec 29, 2008, 15:46
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My predictions:
NOTE: All predictions are based on the Eagles team that showed up yesterday vs Dallas... with a little
more offensive firepower just for kicks -- not needed yesterday... Also, do understand that I bleed
Green (and red for Baseball season).
WC:
ATL > AZ -- Lack of a running game kills the Cards; ATL def good enough to stop AZ pass game.
SD > IND -- SD is HOT right now on all cylinders; no LT? no problem, use Sproles. No INDY run
hurts them. SD def good enough to stop Peyton.
EAGLES >MINN -- Eagles defense is too good here, offense just needs to be fine.
BALT > FINS -- this one could be close -- will depend upon both QB plays and Ed Reed on defense
(wow what a few weeks he has had!).
CONFERENCE SEMIS:
SD > PIT -- SD remains hot; PGH is struggling on Offense; defense will cave to SD all round attack.
EAGLES > NYG -- We did it once and will do it again -- too many Jints injuries now and no
Plaxico (phew).
TOSS UP -- both of these games will depend upon which QB has the better day -- I am going with
the rookies:
ATL > CAR
BALT > TITANS
CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP:
EAGLES > ATL Eagles are on a roll now and will not let up -- average+ offense but superb
defense will carry this game; Westie and Buck run wild, lots of WR make catches.
SD > BALT Too much firepower for even Baltimore to stop --even if LT is hurt.
SUPER BOWL:
EAGLES > SD Andy Reid, having discovered the value of a run game, does his best job of
preplanning game strategy AND field game management to shut down the Chargers while putting
points on the board.
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| | | 24 | WiddleAvi
ID: 361157177
Mon, Dec 29, 2008, 19:50
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WC:
Balt over Miami- This is tough being that I am a Dolphin fan living in Pittsburgh and would love to see Miami win and come to Pittsburgh.
Atlanta over Arizona - Atlanta running game too strong.
Philly over Minny - As long as the right Philly team shows up.
SD over Colts - Colts have no run game. Plus game is in SD.
Division Round
San Diego over Pitt - Pitt offense is terrible. Ben holds the ball too long. I give pitt a better chance if Big Ben is out.
Tenn. over Balt. - Close game. Tenn has better running game. Plus venue pick.
Carolina over Atl - Carolina can run the ball as well as Atl and can pass the ball better. Home team in this division has been winning all season.
Giants over Philly - Again depends on which Philly team shows up. But I give this to a rested Giants playing at home.
Championship
Tenn. over San Diego - Another close game. Just feel Tenn has better defense and better run game. Put that together with home game and you have a playoff formula.
Carolina over Giants - This rematch will be close. Carolina should have won the first time which was in NY as well. Really a toss up.
Super Bowl - Not sure how I come to Tenn. winning the super bowl but I guess after going round by round I see them winning.
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| | | 25 | judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Mon, Dec 29, 2008, 21:22
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I've set up an RIFC AAA "buddy group" for the CBS playoff game. The league name is:
RIFC AAA 2009 PLAYOFFS
Send me an email if you want an invitation. Anyone can join in, the more the merrier.
Its free.
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| | | 26 | steve houpt
ID: 451161019
Mon, Dec 29, 2008, 22:39
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My 'statistical' predictions [which means no thought what so ever went into them]:
BAL [64%] over @ MIA
INDY [63%] over @ SDG
MIN [67%] over vs PHI
ATL [55%] over @ ARZ
TENN [62%] over vs BAL
PITT [64%] over vs INDY
NYG [71%] over vs ATL
CAR [66%] over vs MIN
TENN [59%] over vs PITT
NYG [64%] over vs CAR
TENN [54%] over NYG
MY TOTAL PCT CHANCES TO WIN SUPER BOWL
TEN_____ 23.42% [3.27 > 1]
NYG_____ 22.74% [3.40 > 1]
PIT_____ 22.16% [3.51 > 1]
CAR_____ 13.03% [6.67 > 1]
IND______ 5.28% [18 > 1]
BAL______ 5.21% [18 > 1]
MIN______ 2.59% [38 > 1]
ATL______ 2.10% [47 > 1]
PHI______ 1.99% [49 > 1]
SDG______ 0.54% [183 > 1]
MIA______ 0.48% [206 > 1]
ARZ______ 0.45% [223 > 1]
I think that in any match-up --- PIT, TEN, BAL, IND, NYG & CAR --- the Vegas line would have the home team favored. No 'real' favorite this year [but look where that the Patriots last year]. That has a major impact on my 'final' PCT's - home field, [just the fact IND and BAL 'should' go into TEN and PIT for a second straight road game against teams that had a bye makes it tough - nosure thing winning on road in MIA and SDG].
The NYG's have an 'easier' road to the Super Bowl IMHO which is shy their over all PCT is close to TEN.
MY PCT on just making it to the SUPER BOWL.
NYG_____ 48.54% [1.06 > 1]
TEN_____ 40.28% [1.48 > 1]
PIT_____ 37.44% [1.67 > 1]
CAR_____ 30.38% [2.25 > 1]
IND______ 9.70% [9.31 > 1]
BAL______ 9.43% [9.61 > 1]
MIN______ 7.31% [13 > 1]
ATL______ 6.06% [15 > 1]
PHL______ 5.28% [18 > 1]
ARZ______ 2.01% [49 > 1]
SDG______ 1.66% [59 > 1]
MIA______ 1.50% [66 > 1]
Let it be known, last year I gave the NYG's a 4.67% chance of making the Super Bowl, and a 0.74% chance of winning it when the playoffs started. ------ New England - 80.68% chance of making the Super Bowl, 65.82% chance of winning when the playoffs started.
New England losing New York Ginat - one of biggest upsets in all of the NFL IMHO.
Would a Giants win be biggest upset in Super Bowl history - written before Super Bowl and conclusion was YES. I agree.
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| | | 27 | steve houpt
ID: 451161019
Tue, Dec 30, 2008, 01:16
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I'm not sure MIAMI is even as 'good' as I have them [not very good - but I only have BAL favored by about 4 because the game is in MIAMI, i.e. 64%]. Just checked 'Live Odds' at USA Today and BAL is only 3 to 3.5 favorite.
Since the first New England game [a win], Miami was 10-3 [9-1 to finish, only loss was to New England. But the ten wins were .........
Oct 5 San Diego W 17-10
Oct 26 Buffalo W 25-16
Nov 2 @ Denver W 26-17
Nov 9 Seattle W 21-19
Nov 16 Oakland W 17-15
Nov 30 @ St. Louis W 16-12
Dec 7 @ Buffalo W 16-3
Dec 14 San Francisco W 14-9
Dec 21 @ Kansas City W 38-31
Dec 28 @ NY Jets W 24-17
Those teams were 59-101. Jets beat them by an average of 21.4 - 14.9.
They lost three games ........
Oct 12 @ Houston L 28-29
Oct 19 Baltimore L 13-27
Nov 23 New England L 28-48
These teams were 30-18. MIAMI was outscored by an average of 34.7 - 23.0. Does Miami really have a good defense?? Who knows.
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| | | 28 | judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Tue, Dec 30, 2008, 10:25
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Steve,
How do get all those math figures?? Just curious.
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| | | 29 | steve houpt
ID: 451161019
Wed, Dec 31, 2008, 00:57
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Judy - here is a rough of how [and too much free time in the winter is WHY]. What's it good for? Would not put any of my money on the line based on it.
About 8 years ago I made a spread sheet that after you put in a team’s rating you have determined [usually use a combo of Sagarin and Massey], home field advantage, it determines probability of a win based on spread. I used other studies I found on the net that showed what each point in strength [favored] meant and from studies it calculates the ‘probability of a win‘.
Once it was built [not sure I could do it again - or have the patience - or even remember all the calc‘s], just put in numbers each year. And after each game, you manually make the winner a “100%” probability and it recalculates the rest of the playoffs.
Favored By __ [my] Probability
40 _______99.2
30 _______98.1
20 _______94.3
15 _______89.3
10 _______80.3
9 _______78
8 _______75.5
7 _______72.8
6 _______69.9
5 _______66.8
4 _______63.6
3 _______60.3
2 _______56.9
1 _______53.8
0.5 _______51.7
0 _______50
But from that [lets just do AFC] - WEEK TWO
39.99% probability of BAL @ TEN and IND @ PIT
23.87% probability of BAL @ TEN and SDG @ PIT
22.63% probability of IND @ TEN and MIA @ PIT
13.51% probability of SDG @ TEN and MIA @ PIT
Then the probability of each of those probabilities leaves you with this for the AFC Championship Game.
PIT @ TEN ____ 49.54%
BAL @ PIT ____ 16.97%
IND @ TEN ____ 8.93%
IND @ PIT ____ 6.94%
BAL @ IND ____ 5.36%
MIA @ TEN ____ 4.16%
SDG @ TEN ____ 2.70%
SDG @ PIT ____ 2.08%
BAL @ SDG ____ 1.62%
IND @ MIA ____ 1.25%
SDG @ MIA ____ 0.45%
1-5 seeds chance of 'HOME' AFC Championship Game.
Game @ TEN ____ 65.33%
Game @ PIT ____ 25.99%
Game @ IND ____ 5.36%
Game @ MIA ____ 1.70%
Game @ SDG ____ 1.62%
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| | | 30 | Nerfherders
ID: 310111515
Wed, Dec 31, 2008, 03:35
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I am still in shock that both the Dolphins and Eagles made the playoffs. All the ups and downs this season have paid off! I feel like I am playing with house money now.
My predictions:
Eagles 24, Vikings 14. Eagles match up well with the Vikes and will create turnovers against Jackson.
Dolphins 17, Ravens 16. The best game of the first round. Gotta go with my heart on this one. The Dolphins D finds a way to stop the Ravens and they dont play into the Ravens hands by turning the ball over.
Falcons 31, Cardinals 17. Falcons are all over this game. The running of ATL is just too strong.
Colts 27, Chargers 21. The Chargers run ends here, sadly. I'm just glad they knocked off the Broncos!
Round 2
Steelers 23, Dolphins 13. Steelers are too much for the 'phins at home. Still, a great season for my fish.
Colts 24, Titans 17. The Titans weaknesses will be exposed again in a matchup of division rivals.
Eagles 21, Giants 13. The Eagles can play with anyone, and they prove it with a strong performance agains the G-men.
Panthers 28, Falcons 24. Gotta take the Panthers at home - they never lose there.
Round 3
Steelers 22, Colts 20. Close game but the home field is the difference.
Panthers 30, Eagles 17. The Eagles miracle ride ends - they can only seem to muster three good games in a row.
Super Bowl
Panthers 24, Steelers 21. Two teams very much alike. Good running combo, decent QB, WR. Good defenses. So it'll be close.
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| | | 31 | Toral
ID: 575542418
Wed, Dec 31, 2008, 05:54
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Here's a Point Spread to Money Line Converter I found on the Net. Looked for one to help with Guru's Football Pickoff. I now lose much more efficiently and systematically than before.
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| | | 32 | J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Wed, Dec 31, 2008, 09:48
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Here's my worthless playoff predictions:
Ravens over Dolphins
Colts over Chargers
Vikings over Eagles (does everyone forget the Eagles-Redskins game THAT quickly?)
Cardinals over Falcons
Week 2
Titans over Ravens
Colts over Steelers
Giants over Cardinals
Panthers over Vikings
Elis over Peytons in Super Bowl
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| | | 33 | leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Wed, Dec 31, 2008, 12:19
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Wild Card Round:
Ravens over Dolphins - Baltimore's defense is too strong, and the Dolphins were pretty easily handled by the Ravens earlier this year in Miami.
Vikings over Eagles - Eagles played a great game last week, which has everyone talking, but before that, they lost to the Redskins and were a fairly mediocre team all year.
Chargers over Colts - I hate when teams only play their starters for one series in week 17, as I think it makes them come out slow in the wild card game.
Cardinals over Falcons - Warner's experience and the Cards being at home is the difference.
Divisional Round:
Titans over Ravens - Flacco's youth is served, and the Titans win a low scoring game.
Steelers over Chargers - Weather and cross country trip doom the warm weather Chargers. Steelers should of beaten San Diego handily earlier this year and shouldn't underestimate them in the playoffs.
Giants over Cardinals - Blowout. Cards have stunk all year (a) on the road and (b) on the east coast (see: New England, New York Jets, Redskins, Philly)
Panthers over Vikings - The only reason the Vikes are here is because they played the Eagles at home. Playing Carolina is tough, as evidenced by their 8-0 home record.
Championship Round:
Titans over Steelers - The Steelers offensive line will get dominated, sending the Titans and Kerry Collins to the Super Bowl.
Panthers over Giants - A rematch of a great game played in Week 16, and the Panthers will get their revenge in an upset.
Super Bowl:
Panthers over Titans - Carolina has too much experience and will bring home the trophy with their balanced rushing and passing attack.
***Disclaimer: Although the above will likely be 100% accurate, if for some reason the Colts get by the Chargers, I think they will make the Super Bowl. The Colts matchup great with Pittsburgh, Tennessee, and Baltimore, and they just tough luck in running into the Chargers in the Wild Card Round.***
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ID: 58082219
Fri, Jan 02, 2009, 16:49
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Nobody in Minnesota trusts the Vikings/Tavarais/Childress.
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| | | 37 | judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Fri, Jan 02, 2009, 20:43
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RE: #23
Hmm - with Gates and LT banged up, I might need to replace SD with INDY (all the way through).
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| | | 38 | I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 466141317
Sat, Jan 03, 2009, 23:34
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RAGE!!! They cut the feed to the Colts/Chargers game here just into the OT. What the heck is with that?!
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| | | 39 | I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 466141317
Sat, Jan 03, 2009, 23:36
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and... within a few minutes of the cut... it's over, Sproles goes for the TD rush of 22 yds according to NFL.com.
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| | | 40 | Pancho Villa
ID: 51546319
Sat, Jan 03, 2009, 23:36
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LaDainian who?
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| | | 41 | Electroman
ID: 47928246
Sat, Jan 03, 2009, 23:39
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What a game. Colts achilles heal was they couldn't run the ball, and it bit them in the butt. The Chargers could be dangerous. I would love to see LT able to get healthy.
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| | | 42 | judy
ID: 487162821
Sun, Jan 04, 2009, 14:34
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I love watching Sproles' feet move -- they are so quick. I remember his returns when
he was at K State. SD does not lose much when he is in the lineup.
I felt for Ryan -- that handoff/fumble was the killer difference in the game.
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| | | 43 | Electroman
ID: 47928246
Sun, Jan 04, 2009, 22:15
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Funny, even though you look at the Eagles this week, and maybe don't think of them as high as after last weeks game, I think that it is easily explained. For one, Childress knows the Eagles well, even if he has been gone for a few years. So he could run practice knowing what to expect on offense. And last week, they faced a similar D in the Giants, so that prepared them. The D was still very effective. They pretty much shut down the Vikings in the second half. And the offense were able to move the ball twice after being pinned deep. Really looking forward to this weekend. I think that the Eagles have to come out aggresive on both sides of the ball. Giants have basically been off for two weeks, they were pulled in the last game of the season. They could be rusty, and vulnerable for the first quarter.
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| | | 44 | judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Sun, Jan 04, 2009, 22:48
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I was a little nervous when we only got FG in the first half. With lots of time left (3-4 min), the
announcers kept wrapping it up and all I could think was that is it not over for Philly "until the fat lady
sings."
I think it was a well managed game, with the exception of the McNabb F and the INT was kinda
useless, but did not hurt us when it came. Westie, again, was awesome, but they need to design more
plays for Buck other than run blocking which both he and Westie did very well in overall. Mcnabb was
efficient and the WR (esp Avant) and TE did well. I think our D can rattle Manning and we can out run
their D with slants and screens. Akers and Rocca were important as well.
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| | | 45 | Boxman
ID: 337352111
Mon, Jan 05, 2009, 12:34
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This is more of a vent than anything else.
I took Indy -1 and the money line (-170) on Philly because I wasn't sure they would cover the 3 points (I bet before the final line of 3.5)
I'm going to draft Sproles with my first round pick this year and then immediately cut him following the draft just to have some revenge. :)
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| | | 46 | Nerfherders
ID: 347242717
Mon, Jan 05, 2009, 12:58
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I'm glad I am not in the business of picking teams. yeesh. At least the Eagles won!
The Miami game was just terrible. I don't know what to say about it other than eventually law of averages wins out - with regards to turnovers this time.
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| | | 47 | judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Mon, Jan 05, 2009, 14:18
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RE: #23
ATL > AZ -- Lack of a running game kills the Cards; ATL def good enough to stop AZ pass game.
SD > IND -- SD is HOT right now on all cylinders; no LT? no problem, use Sproles. No INDY run
hurts them. SD def good enough to stop Peyton.
EAGLES >MINN -- Eagles defense is too good here, offense just needs to be fine.
BALT > FINS -- this one could be close -- will depend upon both QB plays and Ed Reed on defense
(wow what a few weeks he has had!).
WOW! With the exception of the ATL/AZ game where AZ found a running game and a tough F/TD killed
the Falcons, I did OK -- even with my analysis!
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| | | 48 | judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Mon, Jan 05, 2009, 14:24
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Gotta change the semis due to ATL/AZ (changes/additions in italics)
CONFERENCE SEMIS:
SD > PIT -- SD remains hot; PGH is struggling on Offense; defense will cave to SD all round attack.
EAGLES > NYG -- We did it once and will do it again -- too many Jints injuries now and no
Plaxico (phew).
CAR over AZ -- CAR RB and Smith rule the day; CAR def will stop AZ, esp with Boldin out
BALT > TITANS -- defense wins this one; low scoring affair
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| | | 49 | sarge33rd
ID: 4307513
Mon, Jan 05, 2009, 15:56
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re post 23 above:
BALT > FINS -- this one could be close -- will depend upon both QB plays and Ed Reed on defense
What numbers should I be playing in this weeks lotto?
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| | | 50 | DWetzel
ID: 278201415
Mon, Jan 05, 2009, 16:16
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Meh. NFC good, AFC bad.
I'll take all the home teams this round. There's a reason they were each playing for home field in week 15.
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| | | 51 | steve houpt
ID: 451161019
Mon, Jan 05, 2009, 19:56
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Sometimes the seeds [division champs ranked ahead of wild card] yield 'not so fair' results.
Tennessee's reward for being the number #1 seed is to play [12-5] wild card BAL. Pittsburgh's penalty for #2 seed is [9-8] division champ SDG.
And even though their records are only a half game apart, it's hard to think of #4 seed ARZ as a tougher opponent than #6 seed PHL. Arizona was 3-7 when they were not playing NFC West teams.
The rubber hits the road if both #1 and #2's survive this week and #1's get home field advantage against #2 - but the seeding is not much help this week getting to the CONF Championship.
In fact the way the teams advanced has 'now' made PIT my favorite to win the Super Bowl.
PITT ___ 24%
NYG ___ 22%
TEN ___ 19%
CAR ___ 13%
BAL ___ 11%
PHL ____ 7%
SDG ____ 2%
ARZ ____ 2%
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| | | 52 | Slizz
ID: 4710371415
Fri, Jan 09, 2009, 16:54
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I gotta go with the Ravens vs the Panthers in the superbowl. At first glance, I said Ravens / Eagles...but I don't think Andy Reid cant put together a solid game plan 4 games, let alone 5 (if they even make it that far) in a row. Judy will definitely attest to that. I do think the eagles advance this weekend, but thats only b/c of the Plaxico factor. Eagles had to double team him 80% of the time when he was there and without him, they can bring that extra guy in the box (Dawkins) to slow down Brandon Jacobs. Also, the Giants have ZERO sacks of Donovan McNabb during their two meetings this season. If the Jints can some how get pressure on McNabb, that could tilt things the Giants way. No need to comment on Cardinals / Panthers. I am going off the top of my head here...but the Cardinals are 0-5 or whatever on the east coast. Don't expect that to change this weekend. San Diego was dominated vs the Steelers by nearly 300 total yards, and if it wasnt for 100+ yards in penalties the Steelers had to San Diego's 5, the margin would've been even wider than 11-10. Expect the Steelers to take care of business and advance to the AFC Championship. Titans / Ravens. I've already tipped my hand who i am going with here, but I've liked the Ravens since they got in the playoffs...and their biggest hurdle (Colts) is out of the way. While I like Tennessee as a smashmouth type team...I just love the Ravens defense. They are awesome at all three levels (defensive line, linebackers, secondary) and control the trenches on both sides of the ball... Also, they have also special teams: one of the NFL's most accurate kickers, another kicker who leads the league in touchbacks/is among the league leaders in kickoffs, #5 punter in net punt average. I just think its going to be on Kerry Collins to pick apart that defense...and I don't see it happening.
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| | | 53 | Electroman
ID: 47928246
Sat, Jan 10, 2009, 20:00
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Well, another game that the officials come into question. Last week, it was sour grapes, but this week the Titans have a beef. But they lost that game because of the turnovers.
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| | | 54 | judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Sat, Jan 10, 2009, 23:10
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With 6 min left in the AZ > CAR game, did I count a total of 11 turnovers in two games today?
Unreal!
Makes you wonder what tomorrow will bring, esp with Eagles, NYG and PGH defenses...
GO EAGLES!!!!
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| | | 55 | Electroman
ID: 47928246
Sat, Jan 10, 2009, 23:32
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I actually picked the Panthers to win the SB, but it was more on reputation because I didn't really see them play. I thought they were supposed to be good. Delhomme really stunk out the joint. Battle of the Birds next week? Another in the Super Bowl?
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| | | 56 | Seattle Zen
ID: 1505110
Sun, Jan 11, 2009, 01:05
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Would a Arizona Cardinals Super Bowl win be even bigger, more improbable than a Cubs World Series title?
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| | | 57 | Slizz
ID: 4208421
Sun, Jan 11, 2009, 11:39
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Jesus...the Cardinals and Conference Championship in the same sentence. What a weird year. Answer me this: If the Cardinals somehow advance to the super bowl...does this make Kurt Warner, 2 time MVP, a Hall of Famer?
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| | | 58 | TB
ID: 9116716
Sun, Jan 11, 2009, 12:20
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That's a good question. I think he needs to add some more career stats, but he's not that far away from consideration. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/W/WarnKu00.htm
His passing yards a game, completion percentage, and career passer rating are all solid. IMO,, he needs to move up the rankings for total yards/td's.
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| | | 59 | youngroman
Donor
ID: 02934823
Sun, Jan 11, 2009, 13:16
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if I compare him to Troy Aikman, the last QB-inductee, I don't see much difference. Warner has already more TDs and less INTs with a few less yards. Aikman was never league MVP. the only thing where Aikman is better is postseason success. that could look different in 3 weeks.
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| | | 60 | Pancho Villa
ID: 51546319
Sun, Jan 11, 2009, 16:12
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I think the Cards being at home, coupled with their performance the past two weeks makes handicapping the spread next week really challenging.
I'm going to say Philly by 1.
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| | | 61 | judy
ID: 597401015
Sun, Jan 11, 2009, 16:26
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BELIEVE!!!!
GO EAGLES!!!
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| | | 62 | Electroman
ID: 47928246
Sun, Jan 11, 2009, 16:26
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Wow, what a year. Is this the first time that two teams who didn't win 10 games meet in the championship game?
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| | | 63 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 041831612
Sun, Jan 11, 2009, 16:37
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I'm still in shock. Philly in the final 4. Amazing, and awesome.
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| | | 64 | Nerfherders
ID: 310111515
Sun, Jan 11, 2009, 16:49
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I called it, but it's still unbelievable. Eagles in the NFC Championship! 5th time in 8 years.
Arizona is even more unbelievable. Did anyone pick them to win even a single playoff game? They were stinking it up for over a month. Phoenix is a tough place to play, so it's hard to figure how it will play out. You can't look at the Thanksgiving game to handicap it because the Cards are a different team at home.
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| | | 65 | walk
ID: 139332920
Sun, Jan 11, 2009, 18:31
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Fcuking Eli Manning. What a turnaround from earlier in the season and last year's playoffs. He just did not make the plays like McNabb did. Both defenses were superb, and my NYG running game was better, but ou have to be able to convert on a 3rd down once in a while, and have to stretch the D, too...I don't care if we don't have Plax, Manning has to figure out another way, but he could not. Eagles were the better team.
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| | | 66 | walk
ID: 139332920
Sun, Jan 11, 2009, 18:37
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Eli
He won us a super bowl last year, but this excellent blogger on the NYG hits it on the head with his analysis. The NYG did not do much to win this game.
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| | | 67 | Electroman
ID: 47928246
Sun, Jan 11, 2009, 19:08
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This guy is wrong in saying that the Giants lost the game. That is more sour grapes. The Eagles weren't going to let the run game beat them, and put it on Eli. It was the gameplan, and it worked. Eli is an above average QB, and Jim Johnson knew that an above average QB would not be able to beat his D. And the Giants got out coached too by what he is saying about the playcalling. That being said, this is one of the best defenses I have seem in Philadelphia since the early 90's.
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| | | 68 | judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Mon, Jan 12, 2009, 11:30
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CONFERENCE CHAMPS
EAGLES over AZ -- Eagles D slows down Warner to Fitz, Westie rediscovers running again
(although the Jints paid so much attention to him that the short passing game worked and he
was a good blocker keeping McNabb's jersey clean. And we kept trying the run to keep them
honest.) Our passing game moves the chains and gets into the End Zone. Could be a high
scoring affair, say 37 - 24.
PGH over BALT -- Balt lack of offense and PGH D determine this outcome. FWP seems to be
"back" and that is not good news for the Ravens D. Ben throws just enough passes to be
efficient and move the chains: 24 - 13.
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ID: 4510512113
Tue, Jan 13, 2009, 18:50
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Who knew Phil Simms could move like that!
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| | | 71 | J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Sun, Jan 18, 2009, 16:31
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So far so good for my new favorite team!
Will Demps should've been ejected for that assinine hit on Warner.
Go Cards! (Why is Warner wearing gloves on both hands?)
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Leader
ID: 916288962
Sun, Jan 18, 2009, 16:45
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There was a piece on ESPN this morning about why he wears gloves on both hands. Unfortunately it involved Kenny Mayne and a midget so I didnt pay any atention to it.
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| | | 73 | Pancho Villa
ID: 51546319
Sun, Jan 18, 2009, 18:22
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My new favorite team(kudos to J) going to the Super Bowl. Amazing.
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| | | 74 | Electroman
ID: 47928246
Sun, Jan 18, 2009, 21:50
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Quitin Demps. That was a stupid play, you could say that it cost them 3 points. The Eagles let this one get away, twice. When Jackson forced the fumble after the INT, they didn't capitalize on what could have been a major game changing moment. Dropped pass by Lewis, and a poor throw that was a TD if throw properly to Baskett, and the missed FG. Cards turned around and take advantage by the trick play TD. Then the D couldn't capitalize and shut down the Cards after they took the lead. They showed me a lot(Arizona) in this game. As for the 4th down play, they could have called that pass interferece, but it was close. There was one in the first half on third down that was more blatent, and they didn't call it. Congrats to Arizona, I just wish that I was rooting for the Eagles in the SB. Was an unexpected run, so didn't hurt as much as the other losses, but it would have been nice to win this one. And for those who would call McNabb a choker, a choker would never have lead his team back. Inaccurate, yes, but choker no. He put this team on his back and led them to this point, they just got beat by a better team.
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| | | 75 | judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Mon, Jan 19, 2009, 12:27
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Who knew the Eagles defense would let them down so hard. I find it very hard to believe
that they thought they could get away with single coverage by shorter guys on Fitzgerald.
I though of a great Headline for the Eagles papers: "Dreams Fitzzled"
They chose "Death Valley" not too bad,
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| | | 76 | Nerfherders
ID: 310111515
Mon, Jan 19, 2009, 14:14
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It was a bad game indeed, but as I mentioned above, this year's Eagles could not put more than three good games in a row together. I don't think they would have played that well against any of the playoff teams. I can't be too upset though, as by all rights they shouldn't have even been there to play that game in the first place. My guess is that if the Bucs had taken care of business down the stretch, the Giants would have been in the Super Bowl again. Only the Eagles and maybe the Panthers could have beaten them on their home turf.
The Steelers being there are no surprise - I think they were the best team in the AFC going into the playoffs. They are going to be heavy favorites, however I've learned over the last three weeks not to discount the Cardinals. They have been drawing up great plays on offense that are going to confound the Steelers some. I think that if they can jump on the Steelers like they did the Eagles they will have a chance. The Steelers D is alot like the Eagles D. You can beat them by outsmarting them on coverage looks and getting Fitz open on crossing routes. That is what killed the Eagles.
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| | | 77 | J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Mon, Jan 19, 2009, 15:10
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Steelers are 7pt favorites according to sportscenter last night.
Give me the Cards +7!!!!
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| | | 78 | Electroman
ID: 47928246
Mon, Jan 19, 2009, 15:41
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The more I think about that game, the Cards did an amazing job gameplanning against the Eagles D. They used screens and such that works against an aggresive D. But will they be able to do that two games in a row? It should be interesting, because these teams know each other well, as far as coaching staffs. For the Cards to win, they have to set the tempo, as they did yesterday, pull out trick plays. I am thinking that it will be like the Rams Vs Pats superbowl. Low scoring, and decided late.
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