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| Posted by: Seattle Zen
- Leader [055343019] Thu, Sep 02, 2010, 01:37
Red Turf is the most important thing to happen to college football in 2010.
Obviously we need to have the BCS title game in Cheney, WA very soon.
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Thu, Sep 02, 2010, 07:29
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Saw that on College Football Talk a couple days ago...what an eyesore!!!
Imagine how awful thats going to look on TV.
I can just imagine the recruiting pitch: "Be the first to play on this red turf!"
Long time no talk, SZ...how are things?
How are you feeling about U-Dub?
I'm loving me some Locker...think he is going to be a shade better than Matt Ryan and will easily be the #1 overall pick barring a lockout.
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Thu, Sep 02, 2010, 09:03
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I saw a photo of the new surface from the same angle a TV camera would use. To say that it won't make good TV is an understatement. I could see players nearly disappearing even in HD. Red is to bright of a color unless the two teams are wearing white and black.
T-minus 51 hours.
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| | | 3 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 517068
Thu, Sep 02, 2010, 11:47
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This all assumes that anybody will actually watch Eastern Washington University on TV to begin with.
;)
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| | | 4 | slizz
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Thu, Sep 02, 2010, 12:46
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KKB - whats the word on Newton?
Bullish on the upcoming season?
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| | | 5 | Frick
ID: 97321912
Thu, Sep 02, 2010, 13:47
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Re #3.
True or that any of their games are even broadcast.
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| | | 6 | Perm Dude
ID: 5510572522
Thu, Sep 02, 2010, 14:57
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I feel like we're back in the 80's. No earth tones anymore for, well, earth.
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| | | 7 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 517068
Thu, Sep 02, 2010, 15:18
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RE: 4
Word on Newton's pretty good. He seems to be picking up the offense well and both Chizik (HC) and Malzahn (OC) have said they're able to expand the offense with his running ability. Should make for some very interesting plays. Plus, with Adams and Zachary coming back, he definitely has the targets to work with.
Freshman Trovon Reed is the big word coming out of the Summer. He's getting used all over the place, including WR, QB (Wildcat), and on returns, but he looks more like an all-over-the-place guy than a true WR for this year. He has an MCL injury right now which has him Questionable for this weekend's game, but nobody's particularly worried about Arkansas State. He broke some HUGE touchdowns in some scrimmages and has gotten praise across the board from players and coaches, including Trooper Taylor (WR coach), who is notoriously light on compliments.
Overall, for the season, I like their prospects. Their road games are Miss St, Kentucky, Ole Miss, and Bama. With Bama always being a toss-up, that leaves some VERY manageable road games. I could see them finishing the regular season 10-2... or better.
My personal expectations are at least 9-3, but I'm hoping that I'm being conservative. :)
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| | | 8 | Seattle Zen
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Sat, Sep 04, 2010, 12:04
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How are you feeling about U-Dub?
I cannot get a feel for college football pre-season, I really need to see a few games before I can make any statements. Today's game at BYU is huge for Locker and the team. Will the Dawgs suffer a Sark sophomore slump or are we starting Season Two of the Legend of Sarkisian?
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| | | 9 | Seattle Zen
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ID: 055343019
Sat, Sep 04, 2010, 21:58
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I think it's safe to say that New Mexico's hopes for a national championship are now dashed.
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| | | 10 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 12353217
Sun, Sep 05, 2010, 13:13
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RE: 4 & 7
I'm officially way high on Newton. He has the arm and legs to be a top-tier QB and it wasn't just the fact that the opponent was Arkansas State. Watching the game, there were several throws that were absolute rockets. I haven't seen many college QBs throw a ball as far as quick as he did last night. He made 40+ yard bombs look like they were nothing and all of them were on target. Once the receivers catch up (Adams and Zachary will definitely catch up and stop dropping balls like last night), they'll be making some ridiculously big plays.
Newton's 171 rushing yards not only led the team, but also broke a 36-year-old Auburn record for QB in a single game. 71 of those yards came on a single play that was a busted play that he turned into something (a touchdown). He made it look so effortless that most people actually thought it was a designed Draw play. It wasn't until after the game that the full story was known.
A lot of people will look at last night's game and be down on the defense (26 points allowed), but there were a lot of mental mistakes that I think will get worked out soon enough. Also, Ted Roof (DC) has said all along that he's going to use his backups, including true freshmen, to keep the defense fresh. That means some growing pains early, but it should keep the defense fresh down the stretch and that was a major problem last year.
All in all, I was pleased with the results of the game and can't wait to see what Malzhan and Newton do going forward.
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| | | 11 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 12353217
Sun, Sep 26, 2010, 12:36
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Nebraska got a first-place vote?! For what? They've beaten Western Kentucky (0-4), Idaho (2-2), Washington (1-2), and South Dakota State (0-3). Since when does beating teams that are a combined 3-11 constitute a #1 team when other teams are beating ranked FBS opponents?
As an Auburn fan, I obviously detest Bama, but even I would rank Bama ahead of Nebraska at this point in time. Ridiculous.
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| | | 12 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 12353217
Sun, Sep 26, 2010, 13:15
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BTW, I just realized I'm a week late on that comment. Yahoo has the current records in last week's poll, so it looked updated when it's actually not. Still, even with their first three wins, I can't see giving Nebraska a first-place vote.
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| | | 13 | TB
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Sun, Sep 26, 2010, 17:51
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Totally agree.
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| | | 15 | Seattle Zen
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ID: 055343019
Sat, Oct 30, 2010, 17:11
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Wow, as bad as Oregon's uni have been, Army's are the worst by far. If they ever played on EWU's turf, I think my TV would melt.
Where did he go?
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| | | 16 | slizz
ID: 381020719
Sun, Nov 07, 2010, 20:36
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any thoughts on the BCS and Boise?
For me, I detest the fact that all those ESPN apologists and other talking heads bemoan how an undefeated team could be left out of the national championship...
I'm sorry, Boise plays 1, maybe 2 big games a year and a bunch of creampuffs where anyone from the SEC has anywhere from 6-8 battles throughout the year (conference championship included)...and b/c they play that weak-a** schedule they deserve it? I'm sorry, the BCS has it right.
Also, factor in the injuries a battle-tested SEC or Pac 10 team that they have to play through...if Boise lost their savior, Kellen Moore (*eyeroll*) they'd still run the table...take Cam Newton away from Auburn, different story.
Speaking of...Auburn controls their destiny now with the LSU win over Alabama and if Oregon or Auburn slip up, TCU is gonna get the shot.
Another rant - why the hell does the big east have an automatic entry? Seriously, a non-top 25 team could get in a BCS bowl...seriously pathetic. I'd much rather have a 1-loss Mountain West squad (i.e. Utah) over their automatic (i.e. Pitt or Syracuse)
SZ - speaking of uniforms...go there and click on "Nike Pro Combat" in the left hand side of the screen, than click on any of the teams to get a closeup. To view front and back you need to click on the "Innovation" link. Some of those uniforms are straight fire.
http://www.nike.com/nikeos/p/usnikefootball/en_US/?sitesrc=uslp
If I had to rank them:
1) TCU
2) WVU
3) Florida/VT (if you look at it up close...its awesome...gator scales on the entire thing) Tossup!
Honorable Mention: Alabama for the detail on the #'s (Bear Bryant pattern)
As for Army...don't like the whole camo getup...but if they put some solids in there it would've been ok. Can't go all out camo.
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| | | 17 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 517068
Mon, Nov 08, 2010, 09:35
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I'm sorry, the BCS has it right.
Tell that to the 2004 Auburn Tigers. That's why Auburn fans, even this year, will continue to have issues with the BCS. Sure, it's nice to be in the position they are now, but the bitterness of 2004 is hard to swallow.
And what of Boise State? They've won against big name programs in several bowl games when they were supposedly going to get waxed. And what about Utah two years ago putting a hurt on a one-loss Alabama?
The problem with the hypotheticals about Boise St. and TCU are just that: they're hypotheticals. Football shouldn't be a game of hypotheticals. Either a team won or they didn't.
Use the BCS to fill out a playoff structure similar to what they do for basketball and then a lot of the controversy goes away. How much do you hear about the bubble teams in the basketball tournament? Little to nothing after Selection Sunday. That's because it's easy to look at them and say, "You should have won more." How do you tell an undefeated team they should have won more? It's counter to everything sports is about.
why the hell does the big east have an automatic entry?
Because the BCS sucks. This is the same thing as signing a big-time player to a long-term contract only to watch them fizzle quickly. The Big East used to have Virginia Tech, Miami, and Boston College, but they went away around 2004. The Big East, fulfilling their contract, pulled teams from Conference USA (and UConn) and kept their minimum eight teams for an auto-BCS bid.
But the BCS works, right? ;)
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| | | 18 | Great One
ID: 20955287
Mon, Nov 08, 2010, 15:11
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Praying Auburn loses and TCU or Boise get in and wins the whole thing... screw everyone's love fest with the SEC.
How have Boise and TCU done in similar bowl games? They've done pretty well, haven't they? I'll never forget Boise beating Oklahoma, thats for sure.
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| | | 19 | slizz
ID: 30921721
Mon, Nov 08, 2010, 20:12
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re: 2004 BCS - Auburn didn't necessarily get screwed b/c as I remember it, they were #3 the entire year behind Oklahoma (also undefeated) and USC...I think that year is exactly why we need a +1 game. I'd absolutely be for that.
re: Boise apologists - boo freakin' hoo. play a tougher schedule. I just don't see how its fair to play nothing but cream-puffs post VT and waltz to a national championship. At least they'll be moving to the Mountain West which will feature 3 really good teams (much better than the crappy-a** big east) in Boise State, TCU, & Utah; 2 solid teams in Fresno State & Nevada, and a potentially sneaky-good team in San Diego State under Brady Hoke. Honorable mention upset-minded Air Force and that quirky offense. They do their thing there...absolute auto-bid.
(off the top of my head)
I remember Utah crashed the party and beat an overrated Pitt squad with Alex Smith at QB, than Boise vs Oklahoma, than Hawaii getting blown out by whoever they played...bama?, Utah beating Alabama, than Boise State vs TCU in last years matchup.
Oklahoma had Paul Johnson at QB...just sayin'. He's the pro equivalent of Josh Johnson on the Bucs. Still was an entertaining game.
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| | | 20 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 12353217
Mon, Nov 08, 2010, 22:30
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play a tougher schedule.
How can they? Think about it for a minute. If you play Boise St. and lose to them, you look weak. After all, you lost because you're weak, not because Boise St. is good, right? And if you beat them, then so what, you beat Boise St., who is a weak team anyhow. Right?
It's a lose-lose proposition for any potential opponent. VT is a great example of that. Boise St. has gotten no extra respect for beating them, even though they look to have the inside track on being ACC champs. And VT was the laughing stock of the ACC for a few weeks (especially after the FCS loss) because of it. Heck, even UVA fans were laughing at VT... for a little while at least.
The only thing Boise St. can do is exactly what they've done: move to a new conference. And, eventually, they'll need to move again if the BCS stays the way it is.
And don't get me wrong. I'm not apologizing for Boise St. It's more an issue with the BCS than it is with Boise St. In every other NCAA sport, teams prove themselves in the game, not in the polls. And why the FBS clings to the BCS is beyond me. They can make just as much money, if not more, with a playoff system, even if it's just 4 or 8 teams.
With there being the real potential that there won't be enough teams bowl-eligible to fill all the bowls, I think it's the perfect time to look at using some of those extra bowls as part of a playoff. Or, relegating the lesser teams to the extra bowls and use more of the big name bowls for a playoff. Whatever. Just make it work.
@Great One: Praying Auburn loses and TCU or Boise get in and wins the whole thing... screw everyone's love fest with the SEC.
I'd rather see Oregon lose. ;)
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| | | 22 | Seattle Zen
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Mon, Nov 08, 2010, 23:40
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I'd love to see Oregon lose, too, but it will not happen, if at all, until National Championship game. Someone will need to put up 48 points or more to do it.
This has been the SEC's weakest year in a long time. If ever there was a year to leave them out of the National Championship game, it's this year. I'd really like to see a Boise State v. Oregon grudge match.
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| | | 23 | slizz
ID: 30921721
Tue, Nov 09, 2010, 00:08
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Oregon is the best team in college football. no doubt about that. Dominant on both sides of the ball and haven't even been tested yet.
I'm salivating at the potential of Oregon vs Auburn national championship for the fact that we seriously might not see a punt.
Kelly vs. Malzahn. Potential Heisman in Cam Newton. LaMichael James. That has all the ingredients of 80+ O/U.
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| | | 24 | Frick
ID: 21016718
Tue, Nov 09, 2010, 08:17
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I'm sure a lot of the stories coming out about Newton are only because Auburn is winning, but even if Auburn wins the national championship, what are the odds they might have to potentially vacate it in the future?
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| | | 25 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 517068
Tue, Nov 09, 2010, 09:02
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@Frick: None, in my homer opinion.
The reports are "around" Newton, as one story I read put it. Nobody's saying anything about Auburn having done anything wrong and nobody's saying anything about Newton having done anything wrong. The story is that Kenny Rogers (the former MissSt player, not the singer) claimed that he represented Newton and asked for cash to persuade Newton to sign at a particular school (MissSt, but reportedly others as well).
According to Auburn, they've done their due diligence (since learning about this in the Summer) and can find no ties between Rogers and Newton, Newton's family, or any Auburn staff members.
Further, Rogers has been reprimanded by the NFL and the NFLPA for misrepresenting himself in the past. Coincidence? Doubtful.
As for the academic cheating claim while he was at Florida, I wouldn't be surprised if it was true. He clearly made some bad decisions while there (laptop, anyone?). But, he paid the price and went to Blinn even after Urban Meyer let him stay on the team. You have to figure that if Meyer was willing to keep him on a championship-caliber team, that there was nothing the NCAA would have a problem with. Meyer's too smart for that.
The problem is that Auburn has surprised a LOT of people... except for maybe Kirk Herbstreit (by the way, I love the top-most comments there) and when you surprise a LOT of people, they start finding ways to minimize the reasons for your success and try to find out how you "cheated the system." It was bound to happen.
But, at the end of the day, the NCAA has had a loooooooong time to look at this and they still haven't come up with anything. The NCAA is usually pretty good about this kind of thing, particularly when a marquee name is involved. I think Auburn will be fine.
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ID: 20955287
Tue, Nov 09, 2010, 09:13
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Oregon having the best uniforms is just odd cause they have different uniforms for every single game, right? So people are saying they like the different uniforms each week?
I've always loved the classic Michigan uniforms.
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| | | 27 | Seattle Zen
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ID: 055343019
Wed, Nov 10, 2010, 01:29
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Frick - 24 - The odds just went up.
Uh, oh!
After Newton committed to Auburn, another source said an emotional Cam Newton phoned another recruiter to express regret that he wouldn't be going to Mississippi State, stating that his father Cecil had chosen Auburn for him because "the money was too much."
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Wed, Nov 10, 2010, 03:58
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I have never understood the stupidity of the NCAA not wanting to have a playoffs system for college football.
The amount of money they are leaving on the table is astronomical.
The only argument I hear against it is all of the major bowls don't want to lose out on their money.
My solution is why not do both?
Proposal:
All bowls go back to being played no later than New Years.
You go back to the original setup (Big Ten plays the winner of the Pac-10....etc)
You take the winner of the Rose, Sugar, Orange, and Fiesta plus 4 other at-large teams. (The selection committee can select 1 losing team from the big four bowls if they so choose).
The championship game would be played the week before the Superbowl and would draw huge ratings.
In addition the bowl games would make a lot more money because they would be deciding which teams get into the playoffs.
Instead of two weeks of Superbowl hype we would get 1 week of College Superbowl hype and 1 week of Superbowl hype with a ratings bonanza game in the middle.
The one objection I can think of is it "makes the season too long".
To which I say hogwash.
Its only 8 teams...all the other teams are done by New Years.
Half of the 8 will only play 1 more game.
The season is getting longer and longer with the current BCS system anyways.
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| | | 29 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 517068
Wed, Nov 10, 2010, 09:53
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RE: 27
This al.com article raises a LOT of valid questions about that report, not the least of which is that MissSt either has non-coaches recruiting (an NCAA violation) or their coaches knew about the supposed pay-to-play scheme and STILL recruited Newton (an NCAA violation). So, which NCAA violation is MissSt admitting to?
By the way, Kevin Scarbinsky, the author of the article, has shown clear tendencies towards being a 'Bama fan. This is the kind of thing you would think he would be licking his chops over, but he's been supportive of Newton throughout all the allegations because of all the obvious lack of logic in all these reports.
Such as, why would Newton, who has been the epitome of saying the right things going back for quite some time now, make such a stupid phone call? You're going to hand deliver an NCAA violation to a team you turned down?! That's beyond stupid. I don't even know if there's a word for that... which is why the report doesn't pass the smell test.
By the way, whoever leaked the academic information is guilty of violating federal law. Seems like a lot of anonymous people are trying really hard to bring Newton down. If they're willing to violate federal law, are they willing to lie? Probably.
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| | | 30 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 517068
Wed, Nov 10, 2010, 13:46
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Auburn's been just about crystal clear on where it stands regarding Cam Newton, his recruiting, and his academic eligibility, but it seems MissSt coach Dan Mullen isn't willing to commit to any comments other than to say that nobody other than coaches recruited Newton.
So, there are no NCAA violations by MissSt for having non-coach recruiters. That must mean that Mullen was perfectly fine recruiting Newton AFTER learning about the alleged pay-to-play demands.
It's no wonder this is all coming from "sources" because it either means MissSt was guilty of NCAA violations themselves, of which there is actual evidence, or they're just making it up as they go along.
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ID: 21016718
Wed, Nov 10, 2010, 17:08
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KKB, the non-coach recruiters is a sham that many teams easily get around by paying huge money to "scouting" services.
Could it be very possible that nothing more than mudslinging by MissSt and other spurned schools? It could be, but the number of reports is enough to at least raise the question. And I'm pretty sure that Pete Carroll and Reggie Bush still think they did nothing wrong. Reggie didn't even admit guild when he returned the Heisman.
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| | | 32 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 12353217
Wed, Nov 10, 2010, 19:38
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@Frick: But Mullen himself said in the story linked in #30 that nobody but MissSt coaches recruited Newton. Straight from Mullen himself... which is something sorely lacking with every other story in this brouhaha.
The number of stories doesn't concern me at all because they're increasingly becoming more threadbare. We're now getting into "sources" who "claim" and have no evidence to turn over to anybody. We're also getting into people willing to violate federal law to show that Newton had issues at UF. Didn't we already know that? Is this about facts that matter NOW or a smear campaign?
Personally, I think it's looking more and more like the latter. I think there are people at MissSt and UF who are more than upset they don't have Newton on their teams, particularly considering what Newton could have meant to them this year. And having lived the SEC life for some time now, nothing would surprise me coming from an SEC rival.
I may be a homer, but I'm still waiting to read anything that's more than just "claims" from "sources" that should have been made to the NCAA a LONG time ago, but seem to be headed towards the media instead... for some unknown reason. (rolling my eyes)
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| | | 33 | Perm Dude
ID: 5510572522
Wed, Nov 10, 2010, 19:44
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The whole story, and the inconsistencies, depend upon Mullen knowing all the information. This story tells me, however, that Mullen doesn't have all the information, and everything he says, IMO, should be read with that in mind.
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| | | 34 | slizz
ID: 30921721
Wed, Nov 10, 2010, 21:03
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Its all hearsay until we get something firm and on the record.
At least when the reggie bush fiasco came to light, Charles Robinson of Yahoo! sports brought the hammer...same thing with the gary wichard/north carolina connection.
I don't see any of that existing here so I am going to wait and see.
Newton's reputation is already crap and this isn't going to help it any...had Newton not cheated on his tests (i.e. writing his name on another students completed test for credit) or the stolen laptop, I doubt this creates as big of a stir with "UNNAMED SOURCES" reporting on it.
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| | | 35 | Seattle Zen
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ID: 055343019
Sat, Nov 13, 2010, 19:45
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83 points? Wow, Wisconsin.
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| | | 36 | Seattle Zen
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ID: 055343019
Sun, Nov 14, 2010, 00:21
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Congrats South Carolina on your first win in Gainesville. Now go beat those Tigers.
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| | | 37 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 12353217
Sun, Nov 14, 2010, 12:35
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Now go beat those Tigers.
Not so much. The Spurrier that knows how to lose football games is going to show up again. Auburn will score and score often and Spurrier will get desperate to catch/keep up. When that happened on 9/25, the Gamecocks had a complete meltdown in the 4th quarter and I would expect nothing less in the SEC Championship.
The key will be containing Lattimore... again. He average only 47 rushing yards with 3 TDs in USC's 3 losses. When you consider that in the 6 of USC's 7 wins that he played in, Lattimore averaged 137 rushing yards with 11 TDs, it's pretty clear that if a team takes him out of the game, USC is going to have a REALLY tough time winning.
Thankfully, for Auburn, it's not their D-Line that's a problem. Their secondary is pretty much the same as it was the last time the teams met, if not SLIGHTLY better. Their D-Line is probably tougher and has been taking teams out of the game in the second half.
In their last 4 games, Auburn has allowed 10, 10, 14 (backups in 4th), 7 points in the second half. But if you look at the entire season, latest to earliest, Auburn has allowed 0, 3, 14 (backups), 7, 8, 3, 0, 0, 7 (with OT), 0, and 3 points in the 4th quarter. That means USC has to feel like they only have 3 quarters to match or best 4 quarters of Auburn's offensive output.
Good luck, Spurrier. You'll need it.
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| | | 38 | Mötley Crüe
ID: 108312919
Sun, Nov 14, 2010, 13:01
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That's a lot of thought put into a game that probably shouldn't even be happening. Whether there'll be enough evidence to penalize Newton, I don't know. But clearly some impropriety went on during his recruitment and only a completely devoted Auburn supporter could ignore it after Cecil Newton admitted to soliciting payments. I understand entirely; at this point how can you do anything other than hope? Who among Auburn supporters would rather an 0-11 season than 11-0? But time will provide all of the visibility needed to make a real determination on whether the 2010 Auburn Tigers were a National Title contender or a middle of the pack SEC team with an unfair advantage of epic proportion.
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| | | 39 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 12353217
Sun, Nov 14, 2010, 17:12
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RE: 38. The question is how much Cam Newton's status/eligibility should be impacted if his father, completely on his own, made the solicitation to a school that Newton ended up not attending anyhow. It's a completely plausible situation and, even looking at this as objectively as possible, is just as plausible as the story certain people want to portray.
I have a lot of issues with the way this has all happened, particularly the violation of federal law in releasing ANY information about Newton on an academic level at UF. What does that have to do with anything? It's like saying bringing to light a big insider trading deal and then trying to further the "guilt" of the accused by saying that they also got a speeding ticket.
The two have little to nothing to do with one another, but someone clearly thought the recruiting issue was such a thin story that they were willing to violate federal law to further their agenda. Otherwise, why not bring out the cheating accusations a lot earlier? Why now?
And you're right that only time will tell. And a lot of that blame should be placed on MissSt who sat on an SEC request for over 6 months. Auburn found out about the information in the Summer and completed a sweeping in-house investigation that appears to show no inappropriate contact. So, why exactly did MissSt sit on the request for so long if they were so concerned? And why would they continue to recruit Newton -- which they did -- if everything the "sources" are saying is true. It just doesn't add up.
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| | | 40 | Seattle Zen
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Sun, Nov 14, 2010, 19:40
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I'm not convinced by either post 37 or 39. Gamecocks are going to beat Auburn and Newton took money, proof is probably right around the corner.
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| | | 41 | Mötley Crüe
ID: 108312919
Sun, Nov 14, 2010, 19:54
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I'm not concerned about the academic incidents at UF, nor the criminal activity. I'm not trying to rain on Newton's Heisman parade. I think Auburn has been cheating all season for running him out there, and now that the pay-for-play is being exposed to the public, AU is in too deep to do anything else. They knew about it all along, so there would be nothing to gain from holding Newton out now. They'll play the last 3 games of the season with fingers crossed and if the NCAA ever gets around to finishing this investigation, Auburn will get stripped of whatever titles they win this season while Newton is making millions in the NFL and endorsing Nike.
As far as parsing the wording of rules barring soliciting cash in exchange for signing with a school, I think that homework's been done already. At the end of the day, Newton is going to be held responsible for his representatives' behavior, and rightly so.
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| | | 42 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 517068
Mon, Nov 15, 2010, 09:13
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proof is probably right around the corner
I'm perfectly fine with proof. I'm NOT fine with there "probably" being proof.
I think Auburn has been cheating all season for running him out there
If that's what you think, then I doubt I can change your mind because even if the NCAA finds no wrongdoing, you'll still feel that Auburn covered something up. So be it. Everybody's entitled to their opinion.
Thankfully, the NCAA has to follow rules about evidence and not just listen to opinion.
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| | | 43 | Razor
ID: 57854118
Mon, Nov 15, 2010, 09:39
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Newton's father asked MSU for money. How big of a stretch is it that he did the same to Auburn?
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| | | 44 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 517068
Mon, Nov 15, 2010, 10:08
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Newton's father asked MSU for money. How big of a stretch is it that he did the same to Auburn?
Not a big stretch at all. But the evidence isn't there right now and evidence is something that has been sorely lacking throughout this saga.
If, at the end of it all, the evidence shows wrongdoing on the part of Auburn, then yes, they should be punished to the full extent of NCAA regulations. I was in Auburn for their perfect 1993 season that amounted to a moral victory because of NCAA probation, so I'm no stranger to that.
But, I want to hear/see the evidence first instead of presuming guilt based on "sources" and allegations revolving around a school that Newton doesn't even play for.
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ID: 381020719
Sun, Nov 21, 2010, 11:06
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IRON BOWL THIS FRIDAY!!!!!!!!
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| | | 46 | mc5huffl35
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ID: 00795541
Fri, Nov 26, 2010, 14:48
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Gonna be a long day for the Auburn D if Alabama keeps that energy level all game.
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| | | 47 | Perm Dude
ID: 5510572522
Sat, Nov 27, 2010, 01:43
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I tell ya--I don't care if they are pee wee league teams. What a great game in NV!
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| | | 48 | Frick
ID: 5310541617
Sat, Nov 27, 2010, 15:44
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I thought the Boise State coach handled his FG kicker well. Much better than Saban did when his kicker missed a fg late in the game. But, can't say I'm surprised by the Nicktator's actions.
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| | | 49 | Seattle Zen
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ID: 055343019
Sat, Nov 27, 2010, 16:25
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I don't care if they are pee wee league teams.
What the hell are you talking about, PD. Either Boise State or Nevada would win the ACC, the Big East and maybe even the Big Ten. Playing in those freezing temps and at altitude made that game last night in Reno a real bitch of a home field advantage.
It will take some time to soak in, but Boise State fans are actually lucky. Just ask any Auburn fan, there is absolutely nothing worse than going undefeated, having a very strong case for entry into the National Championship game and not being invited. You just end up bitter for decades. Twenty four straight wins is something to be proud of, go blow someone out in your bowl game and then knock the crap out of Georgia next year.
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| | | 50 | Perm Dude
ID: 5510572522
Sat, Nov 27, 2010, 16:54
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You didn't see the game, Zen. And missed my point. 0-2.
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| | | 51 | Tosh
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ID: 057721710
Sat, Nov 27, 2010, 16:56
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Frick [48] - In a Boise game a few weeks ago, the Boise coach benched two players for a quarter, because he thought the player was unsportsmanlike, even though no penalties had been called.
In case one, the player was jawing at/showing up an opponent.
In case two, the player spiked the ball into the wall after a TD, instead of handing it to the ref like they are taught to do.
The Boise coach (Petersen) is a classy guy.
And as an Oregon Duck fan, I could never imagine being disappointed with the Rose Bowl. What a fun season. I was totally cheering for Auburn yesterday, because that's who I want to see play the Ducks ... not Boise or TCU.
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| | | 52 | Perm Dude
ID: 5510572522
Sat, Nov 27, 2010, 17:11
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Would be a great game. I'd be cheering for the Ducks in that one too.
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| | | 53 | weykool
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ID: 41750315
Sat, Nov 27, 2010, 17:13
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What PD is talking about is Boise State is a Pee Wee team because they beat up on a bunch of cream puffs.
Just because they beat VT the first game of the season doesn't mean they would be able to beat those level of teams if they had to play them every week.
Home field advantage because it was cold?
And here I thought they both played in the same freezing temps.
I can think of something worse.....being handed an undeserved shot to play for the national championship, pulling off the upset and then having a "*" in everyone's mind next to their name.
Boise State* Mythical National Champion.
If they want to have a shot at the championship they need to join a legit conference.
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| | | 54 | Perm Dude
ID: 5510572522
Sat, Nov 27, 2010, 17:16
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I admit I was rooting for Nevada in that game (hard to root against that crowd!), but if Boise State had won that would be cool, too. Anything to knock out the stupid BCS system is a good thing.
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| | | 55 | Tosh
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ID: 057721710
Sat, Nov 27, 2010, 17:22
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I've watched 6-7 of the Boise games this season. Their starting 22 players are as good as anyone in NCAA football. They just don't have the depth of some of the bigger schools.
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| | | 56 | Tree
ID: 2010312116
Sat, Nov 27, 2010, 17:24
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If they want to have a shot at the championship they need to join a legit conference.
maybe if the NCAA would pull their heads out of their collective asses, more teams would have a shot at a championship...the Boise States, the TCUs of the world would LOVE a play off system. they'd love a shot at the Auburns, the Ohio States, and so on...
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| | | 59 | Frick
ID: 5310541617
Sat, Nov 27, 2010, 21:53
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I might be ND homer, but someone might want to explain the clock keeping rules to the timekeeper in the USC/ND game tonight.
Who do you think will be the highest rated Big10 team in the BCS poll? Will Ohio St vault past Wisconsin after today's games?
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| | | 60 | weykool
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ID: 41750315
Sat, Nov 27, 2010, 22:29
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Tree I agree 100%. Either one of those schools deserve a shot at a national championship if they remain undefeated, but not under the current system. Neither team is one of the top two teams. Would be great to see an 8 team playoff and one of them run the table for the undisputed nation championship.
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| | | 61 | slizz
ID: 381020719
Sun, Nov 28, 2010, 10:03
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Playoff system = less $$$$ for the NCAA and Networks...never gonna happen in D1. Repeat that after me...NEVER.
That said, I have no problem with Boise or TCU going to the National Championship next year should they go undefeated now that Boise is gonna be in the Mountain West. At least they'll have 4 games vs legitimate competition.
Either way, how come I didn't see any posts on Auburn/Alabama...do I have to channel my inner KKB to get a post back about that game?
Cam Newton absolutely locked up the Heisman with that...
Who do you have in the national championship?
Oregon & Auburn?
Oregon & TCU?
Oregon & Stanford rematch?
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| | | 62 | weykool
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ID: 41750315
Sun, Nov 28, 2010, 11:04
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Slizz:
Take a look at the playoff proposal in post #28.
You cant tell me that wouldn't mean huge revenues for the NCAA and the networks.
The money from those 7 additional games and the increase in viewers for the bowls that would actually mean something, could be more than all the bowl games combined under the current system.
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| | | 63 | Pancho Villa
ID: 597172916
Sun, Nov 28, 2010, 15:09
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Oregon/Auburn for the BSC championship game.
As someone said earlier, look for an O/U around 80.
This sucks for TCU, but two unbeatens from BCS conferences will trump an undefeated from a non-BCS conference every time. That's why those crooks made BCS and non-BCS conferences.
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| | | 64 | slizz
ID: 381020719
Sun, Nov 28, 2010, 17:48
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Yes...but still...the fact remains that the NCAA will make more money under the current system rather than your proposal in #28.
Its sad b/c the fan on me completely agrees with you in #28 but the businessman sides with the current system...
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| | | 65 | Frick
ID: 5310541617
Sun, Nov 28, 2010, 19:39
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The NCAA doesn't make anything off of the current system. The member schools make money, but I don't believe the NCAA derives any income from the bowls. Now, a play-off that the NCAA sold the rights to = huge money for the NCAA. But the BCS leagues are not going to vote for it, unless it is a clear income increase for them.
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| | | 66 | Seattle Zen
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ID: 055343019
Sun, Dec 05, 2010, 00:23
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Apple Cup! Chris Polk runs for 284 yards!
Washington Huskies, you are going to a Bowl Game! Man, that's music to my ears!
And I now admit that Auburn has earned its place in the BCS game, begrudgingly.
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| | | 67 | DWetzel
ID: 33337117
Sun, Dec 05, 2010, 12:59
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Wanted: triangular field for 3-way football game.
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| | | 68 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 517068
Mon, Dec 06, 2010, 09:34
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RE: 10
I never could have (rationally) predicted this season for Auburn. I can't wait for the championship game. Auburn's defense has come a long way in a short time and they're really shutting teams down in the second half. In their last 5 SEC games, they've only allowed 37 points in the second half and that includes 14 allowed against Ole Miss with backups in the game.
It'll be VERY interesting to see if Auburn can pull off the same kind of second half defense against Oregon. If so, it could make for a more lopsided game than most expect. That, of course, is highly optimistic. I'm more expecting a shootout that will come down to the last few possessions, but I REALLY like Auburn's chances.
WAR EAGLE!
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| | | 69 | Razor
ID: 57854118
Mon, Dec 06, 2010, 09:41
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Who is expecting a lopsided game?
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| | | 70 | Great One
ID: 471018298
Mon, Dec 06, 2010, 10:08
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I'll take the over, is it 100?
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| | | 71 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 517068
Mon, Dec 06, 2010, 11:06
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RE: 69. Nobody. They're expecting a close one (from what I've read). I'm saying it COULD get lopsided. The wording of that sentence is just weird. I'm blaming it on all the recent traveling. :)
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| | | 72 | Perm Dude
ID: 5510572522
Wed, Dec 08, 2010, 00:14
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Boise State blasts BCS over error.
Should have seen this one coming. When you've got a clean shot at a self-righteous and bloated BCS you gotta take a swing.
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| | | 73 | slizz
ID: 1710161519
Fri, Dec 10, 2010, 00:53
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boo freakin hoo. bye bye BSU!
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| | | 74 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 12353217
Sat, Dec 11, 2010, 18:20
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RE: 1
Watching the North Dakota/Eastern Washington FCS playoff game on TV right now and the field looked terrible at first. Now that snow has started to cover most of the field, it looks even worse. It's a pretty shade of pink now. At least red is fierce. Pink is just, um, not right for football.
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| | | 75 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 12353217
Sat, Dec 11, 2010, 18:21
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Haha! My wife just said, "They're just being supportive of breast cancer awareness."
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| | | 76 | Seattle Zen
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ID: 055343019
Fri, Dec 31, 2010, 01:52
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Oh hell yeah! Huskies destroy Nebraska's offense, they got nothing. What an amazing turn around, after getting waxed at home this year to this same squad, the Dawgs give Nebraska less than 200 yards of offense.
Going from 0-12 to today in just two years, all hail Steve Sarkisian. I'm looking forward to seeing UW in BCS games in the near future. I love college football.
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| | | 77 | Seattle Zen
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ID: 055343019
Tue, Jan 04, 2011, 01:43
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Stanford crushes VT, it's looking good for the PAC-10 this bowl season...
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| | | 78 | Great One
ID: 45012311
Tue, Jan 04, 2011, 08:59
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Great showing by the mighty Big 10 so far... were they 0-5 on New Years Day?! lol... good call Ohio State, you were right TCU couldn't cut it in your awe inspiring league.
Meanwhile... in recent history the non-AQ schools improved to 4-1 in BCS bowls vs. teams with automatic BCS bids.
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| | | 79 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 517068
Tue, Jan 04, 2011, 09:07
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Stanford crushes VT, it's looking good for the PAC-10 this bowl season...
Too bad the real test is still to be played... :)
Plus, it's not that big of a deal when only 4 of your conference's teams were even bowl eligible. Compare that to the SEC's 10 teams (only lowly Vandy and Ole Miss didn't make it) and it keeps things in perspective.
The SEC West is crushing it right now. Alabama and Miss St. combine for 101-21 victories. I'm sure Oregon is paying attention.
With Arkansas, LSU, Kentucky, and Auburn left to go, the SEC has a chance to continue making a statement as the best conference in the country... by far.
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| | | 80 | Perm Dude
ID: 5510572522
Tue, Jan 04, 2011, 10:33
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Would have liked to have seen Penn State do a little better, but that was a pretty good game. I really have no idea why Michigan continues to get big bowl bids when they clearly have a sub-par team.
Arkansas v OSU--I'm not sure I'm going to watch--these are two of my favorite teams and I won't know who to root for!
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| | | 81 | Seattle Zen
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ID: 055343019
Tue, Jan 04, 2011, 11:43
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All I've seen is that the SEC is better than the state of Michigan. Georgia lost to some team, Rollins, Nova Southwest, something like that.
And the only reason the PAC-10 did not have a fifth team in a bowl is that when a conference school violates NCAA regs, they don't get to go to a bowl, the polar opposite of the semi-pro squads the Securities Exchange Conference trots out. ;)
So, KKB, I'm sure you will point to that impressive Kentucky victory even after Auburn losses to prove your point.
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| | | 82 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 517068
Tue, Jan 04, 2011, 13:49
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Wow! They almost had a fifth team? That would have been like HALF of what the SEC had. Okay, you've convinced me that the PAC-10 is clearly far better.
Now, back to reality...
Georgia? You're pointing to Georgia? That's laughable. First, they barely made it into a bowl. Second, they were 8th place in the SEC. If they played in the West, they would have just been ahead of Ole Miss. So, good point you made there... if it mattered.
It's also laughable that you try to write off 'Bama and Miss St. as "the SEC is better than the state of Michigan" when they had more of a beat down (in twice as many games... there's a theme there) than Stanford, who "crushed" their opponent. What's the next level above "crushed"? Because that's what 'Bama and Miss St. did.
I suppose we could continue to debate this if you manage to come up with any valid arguments. Until then, I'll thank you for being the resident Lee Corso for Auburn. Your prediction of Auburn's loss (like #40) simply guarantees their win. :)
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| | | 83 | Great One
ID: 45012311
Tue, Jan 04, 2011, 14:02
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I think Oregon takes Auburn.
Lets see if the SEC can finish with a cumulative bowl record above .500 before we say how great they are.
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| | | 84 | Seattle Zen
ID: 10732616
Tue, Jan 04, 2011, 14:05
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You talking about reality? Ha. Ladies and gentlemen, introducing the Jim Jones of the $EC, Welcome to Jonestown!
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| | | 85 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 517068
Tue, Jan 04, 2011, 16:34
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I think Oregon takes Auburn.
You've been praying for an Auburn loss since Nov 8... :)
Lets see if the SEC can finish with a cumulative bowl record above .500 before we say how great they are.
It definitely can't be said right now, but they have been in the past and there's not much to disprove it so far. The remaining bowl games will either show their continued dominance or show the parity in college football, IMHO.
You talking about reality? Ha. Ladies and gentlemen, introducing the Jim Jones of the $EC, Welcome to Jonestown!
Remind me again how many PAC-10 teams compared to SEC teams have won the national championship in the last 5 years? Don't choke on YOUR Kool-Aid when you look up the answer.
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| | | 86 | Tree, not at home
ID: 3910441615
Tue, Jan 04, 2011, 17:34
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as annoying as frog fever can be here in Fort Worth, this year's model could take any team in the country. i'm not sure this isn't a once in a century team for this squad, but there is no question this is a top-notch group.
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| | | 87 | Perm Dude
ID: 5510572522
Tue, Jan 04, 2011, 22:19
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Ohio State looking pretty damn good in the first half.
If the SEC loses the last two games, pretty much no one will remember their other postseason wins this season.
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| | | 88 | Seattle Zen
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ID: 055343019
Wed, Jan 05, 2011, 01:23
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All I am saying is that this is a down year for the SEC. I think it is pretty obvious. We all know that Ohio State was 0-9 against the SEC in bowl games until tonight. Hell, the fact that South Carolina was in the SEC Championship game seems to say as much.
But will we get KKB to admit that? Nah, I doubt it.
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| | | 89 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 517068
Wed, Jan 05, 2011, 09:58
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But will we get KKB to admit that? Nah, I doubt it.
Sorry, but I'm not as blind about the conference my team plays in as you are. Yes, the SEC, as a whole, was down this year. But, that was mostly because of the East. The West definitely held its own, as shown by Alabama being #4 in the division. Show me another division in college football THAT tough to win.
I'm actually surprised by last night's final. I went to bed when it was 31-13. With all the penalties and dropped balls Arkansas had, not to mention a Swiss Cheese Defense, I'm moderately amazed that they managed to make it a 5-point game in the end.
At the end of the day, the SEC still has more bowl wins than the "looking good" PAC-10, so I can rest easy tonight.
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| | | 90 | boikin
ID: 532592112
Wed, Jan 05, 2011, 10:52
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All I am saying is that this is a down year for the SEC.
For what it is worth you are right, even so they are still the best top to bottom conference. Even so I would not be surprise to see LSU go out and lose, they have been pretenders all season and had they not got bailed out in the UT game. They would have been forgotten. Auburn has been doing it with smoke and mirrors all season if ingram does not fumble in bama game they lose in a route to bama(who I think is actually the best team in the conference). Maybe this is game where there luck finally runs out.
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| | | 91 | Great One
ID: 45012311
Wed, Jan 05, 2011, 11:54
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I was more praying for TCU or Boise to get an opportunity. They got an opportunity and they beat one of the best teams in the country. And I have no doubt they could have beaten Oregon or Auburn if they got a chance. Its a shame they don't get one.
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| | | 92 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 517068
Wed, Jan 05, 2011, 11:54
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Auburn has been doing it with smoke and mirrors all season
I certainly won't deny a lot of luck in the season Auburn has had, but what championship team doesn't have a lot of luck go their way, even if it's just with avoiding injuries? What about Oregon surviving Cal? The list could go on forever with any championship-caliber team.
But even with the luck they've had, they've also had their share of bad luck. Losing an AJ Greene was a big blow to the offensive line and losing Aairon Savage from an already inexperienced secondary was a big blow to the defense. Thankfully, Newton has mobility to make Greene's loss not matter as much and Fairley can create enough problems for the opposing offense that the secondary has time to make adjustments.
Also, let's not forget that as much as you like 'Bama this year, they were less than 2 minutes away from losing to Auburn last year, which would have spoiled their championship hopes. A fumble this year, 2 minutes last year. I don't see much of a difference, particularly in the Iron Bowl.
And wasn't 'Bama unable to follow in Auburn's footsteps in regards to South Carolina this year? Auburn showed exactly what a team needed to do to beat Carolina and 'Bama did the exact opposite. Not what I would expect from the best team in the conference. And they lost to LSU... a team you say "would have been forgotten."
If you think it's ALL smoke and mirrors, then you haven't watched Auburn play. Their offense has been able to score on any team at any time. If they can't pass it, they'll run you over. If they can't run you over, they'll pass it. It takes too many people to cover Cam Newton to be able to defend everybody else. And you haven't heard the last of Michael Dyer. Mark my words.
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| | | 93 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 517068
Wed, Jan 05, 2011, 11:56
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Its a shame they don't get one.
I actually agree. I'm glad Auburn managed to get into the BCS Championship, but I still greatly despise the system. 2004 will always be in my mind... though hopefully a lot less after Monday. :)
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| | | 94 | Great One
ID: 45012311
Wed, Jan 05, 2011, 12:22
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I think even that "plus one" theory would be good... i can't imagine you'll ever have more than 4 teams go undefeated. Play the "final four" semi-finals on New Years Day, and then one more game a week later like they currently have it.
Has an undefeated team that got shut out ever publicly challenged the winner of the title game? If I was TCU I'd be challenging Oregon/Auburn -- meet me anywhere, anytime... and we'll see who the champ is. I'm surprised how much they restrain themselves and stay all PC.
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| | | 95 | boikin
ID: 532592112
Wed, Jan 05, 2011, 15:27
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Auburn showed exactly what a team needed to do to beat Carolina and 'Bama did the exact opposite.
I am sure bama would have beat them if they had gotten them at home and 3 turnovers in 4th quarter, i guess you forgot what happened the first time they played.
I will admit I think I only got to watch about 5 or 6 of their games. Wish i had seen more since they seem to make every game exciting. It should make for good title games as I am not sure if either team is going to slow anyone down, hopefully Auburn comes out on top.
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| | | 96 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 12353217
Wed, Jan 05, 2011, 19:52
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i guess you forgot what happened the first time they played
Not at all. That's exactly what I was referring to. In fact, it was four turnovers in the 4th quarter. All four of Carolina's possessions in the 4th ended up with turnovers. Why? Because of what happened in the first three quarters...
First, Auburn completely shut down the Carolina running game. 'Bama did not. 79 rushing yards vs. 132.
Second, Auburn was in the Carolina backfield a LOT. 'Bama was not. 3 sacks vs. 1 sack. I'm sure QB hurries would be similarly lopsided in Auburn's favor.
Third, they got to Garcia first and Spurrier second. Anybody who has watched Spurrier for any amount of time realizes the guy HATES turnovers with a passion. By getting after Garcia a lot, Auburn managed to force a turnover. Then another. That was too much for Spurrier, who has a notoriously short leash on QBs, and he put in his backup. That backup was Connor Shaw, who was a freshman playing in his first game... in the SEC... on the road. The results were expected: 2 interceptions. Meanwhile, 'Bama allowed Garcia to go 17-for-20.
Fourth, Auburn committed to and executed the run. 334 rushing yards. That's right, almost as many rushing yards as 'Bama had TOTAL offense against Carolina (351). 'Bama didn't commit to the run and ended up with just 36 net yards. Pitiful.
Sure, playing at home helped, but the bigger reason Auburn won the first time is because they did exactly what they needed to do exactly when they needed to do it. 'Bama just didn't follow the same plan... at all.
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| | | 97 | Pancho Villa
ID: 597172916
Thu, Jan 06, 2011, 19:53
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There's too many bowl games, and it seems every year they're stretched out further and further into January. There's a bowl game every night through the big one Monday, and most are not that compelling. Only the Cotton Bowl on Friday is a game that's somewhat legitimate between ranked teams. Middle Tennesse State? That game should have been played about December 19th and be done with. The only reason to watch is for the sexy Danika Patrick ads.
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| | | 99 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 517068
Fri, Jan 07, 2011, 12:48
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That's pretty hilarious. Good job by Fallon!
I thought it was funny that (for me) the Oregon Ducks video started with a commercial for 5-hour Energy. "Can't get it together in the morning? Try 5-hour Energy."
They better hope they have it together in the morning and night on Monday!
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| | | 100 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 12353217
Fri, Jan 07, 2011, 22:23
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Hmmm... maybe that red field wasn't such a bad idea after all.
EWU just won the FCS Championship in their first trip to the championship game.
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| | | 101 | Seattle Zen
ID: 055343019
Sat, Jan 08, 2011, 00:28
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I'm Nostra-freakin'-damous! Congratulations, EWU.
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| | | 102 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 2511311412
Sat, Jan 08, 2011, 12:08
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Thats one butt-ugly looking shirt.
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| | | 103 | Perm Dude
ID: 5510572522
Tue, Jan 11, 2011, 00:34
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Congrats to Auburn. A good 4th quarter for both teams--as sometimes is the case, one play made all the difference.
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| | | 104 | Seattle Zen
Leader
ID: 055343019
Tue, Jan 11, 2011, 00:52
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Congrats, Auburn
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| | | 105 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 517068
Tue, Jan 11, 2011, 12:01
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WAR DAMN EAGLE!!! Woohoo!!! :)
RE: 102, I respectfully disagree. It is officially one of the most beautiful shirts I've ever seen! :)
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ID: 130321112
Tue, Jan 11, 2011, 13:32
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True or false?
If another Oregon defender would have come in and hit the Auburn runner as he was being tackled by the first guy, the refs would have thrown a flag for unnecessary roughness.
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| | | 107 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 517068
Tue, Jan 11, 2011, 16:02
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RE: 106
False. The refs were clearly of the mind that they were letting the play run, so that wouldn't make any sense at all. The next guy that comes in to tackle is simply a tackler... just like the one 20+ yards down the field.
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| | | 108 | Perm Dude
ID: 5510572522
Tue, Jan 11, 2011, 16:32
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Another player coming in would have knocked his knee down.
Since the refs were letting the players get away with facemasks, obvious pass interferences, hitting out of bounds, and line movement, I doubt they would have pulled out their flag for a defensive player hitting a guy with the ball who wasn't down.
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| | | 109 | boikin
ID: 532592112
Tue, Jan 11, 2011, 17:03
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Was it just me or did Oregon look over matched in the game? I have to give it to both teams coaching staffs especially Oregon's they out preformed Auburn at every turn except at the talent level.
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| | | 110 | The Beezer
Dude
ID: 191202817
Tue, Jan 11, 2011, 17:16
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Congrats Auburn. Nice to see their fans finally get to celebrate the big prize.
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| | | 111 | Great One
ID: 45012311
Wed, Jan 12, 2011, 08:59
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I felt talent level was pretty even except for the defensive line of Auburn was dominant (and obviously as an individual Cam Newton is better than any opposing QB, but he didn't really play like it this particular game).
I know many folks were complaining about the slippery surface. Both teams were slipping all over the place. And I'd imagine if your main asset is speed like Oregon, that is a major issue.
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| | | 112 | Razor
ID: 471172122
Wed, Jan 12, 2011, 09:40
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Teams looked pretty even to me. James getting nicked up obviously hurt Oregon.
I am happy that my Auburn friends got to celebrate a title, but I hope the NCAA strips the title if and when it is discovered that Cam was bought. And I hope Auburn gets everything short of the death penalty.
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| | | 113 | slizz
ID: 5611142722
Fri, Jan 14, 2011, 19:25
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KKB - Congrats...I look back at the posts about the beginning of the year and am amazed how Auburn went from dead to rights vs clemson and south carolina to national champions.
re: 109 - completely agree. I know I am a SEC homer...but last nights game wasn't more evident of how great the SEC really is. Oregon are no slouches, but maybe 5 players on that squad could start at Auburn....which is saying something considering on talent alone (total team...not just QB) they are probably 4th or 5th in the SEC behind Florida, Alabama, LSU, etc.
Oregon fought hard, but they were just overmatched by the interior athletes on Auburns defensive line led by Fairley.
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| | | 114 | Great One
ID: 56051423
Sat, Jan 15, 2011, 09:44
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Having the big guy in the middle seems like the big basketball programs that have a 7-footer and all the other schools don't.
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