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Subject: RIFC 2011: Draft Discussion

Posted by: Guru - [330592710] Sun, Aug 21, 2011, 22:32

The RIFC draft does not officially start until Wednesday. Early picks are permitted, but not expected. The clock will be set at 6 hours and will be active on Wednesday morning, with a moratorium from 1am-7am EDT. Please note: The clock will continue to run on weekends.

People at the endpoints of the draft have only one single time limit to make their consecutive picks. Similarly, the clock will be manually advanced to skip past anyone who already has a pick in arrears, unless other arrangements have been made in advance of that pick.

Remember that we are using a “Banzai” draft order, which differs from the traditional snake in that the order of the third round (and only that round) is reversed. The MFL system shows the correct order.

We will maintain a draft discussion thread here, but it will probably not be used extensively. If you know that you have pending time constraints, please post them in this thread. (e.g., "I'll be away until 6pm ET, so if my pick is due before then, you'll have to wait.") To the extent that you can alert everyone to potential availability issues, you can help others to plan their check-in times accordingly. That's simply good draft etiquette. I’ll also use this thread for general announcements about the draft.

Note that trades during the draft are allowed. Trades should be announced here, and may include any combination of picks and/or players.

Players who are not yet listed at myfantasyleague.com may be drafted, and if so, a placeholder player will be assigned to your roster until that player is available. Once the draft is complete, you may no longer sign (or protect) an unlisted player.

Please be sure you understand all of the scoring and roster rules for this league. The current rules will be copied into post 2 of this thread.

Rationales will be expected for each pick, but delayed by two rounds. When we near the end of round two, I will set up a thread for those.

Please refrain from mentioning undrafted players, either in this thread, or in your posted rationale.

If you wish to track the draft without directly accessing the mfl site (e.g., if that site is blocked from your access at work), the following links may be used:

List view: http://66.221.169.118/cgi-bin/mfldraft.pl?league=43096
Grid view: http://66.221.169.118/cgi-bin/mfldraftgrid.pl?league=43096

This will also allow you to keep tabs on other RIFC drafts as well. Note, however, that this is strictly a viewing mechanism. It will not allow you to actually enter a draft pick, or set up a queue. For that, you will still need to log directly into the mfl site - or else email the commish to do it.

Guru
ID: 330592710
Sun, Aug 21, 2011, 22:35

Here are some guidelines for executing your draft picks. These have been copied from the 2010 draft thread, so it is possible that there have been some enhancements since then:

1. "My Draft List" - Under the "For Owners" menu (at the top), there is an item called My Draft List. You can think of this as your personal pre-ranking of players if you wish, although it has one important operational impact. If your 6-hour clock expires, then your pick will be automatically selected as the top name on your "My Draft List". Only if that list is empty will your pick be skipped. (More on this in a moment.)

2. "Pre-Draft Pick" list - These are the equivalent of the kafenatid "queue", with several important distinctions:
There is a separate list/queue for each round, and they do not carry over, and
If there is a name in your queue, that player will be immediately selected when it is your turn to draft. The only way to turn off a round-specific queue is to empty it.
Therefore, it is important to keep your queues empty unless you are sure that they should be used. If you expect to want to load & unload your queue frequently (similar to turning it on or off), then you should probably keep a list of players in "My Draft list", as you can quickly pull up that short list to add players to any queue.

Of course, if you have players in "My Draft List", then you are also subject to having those players selected if you should time-out. Typically, that shouldn't be a problem, as timing-out should be a rare occurrence.

If you want to keep players loaded in "My Draft List" and you don't want to risk the top name being selected automatically upon timeout, then I suggest putting a "placeholder" player at the top of your list - preferably someone who is retired, or injured, or clearly not a viable pick. We can come up with specific placeholder options, if needed. If you time-out and a placeholder player is automatically selected for you, then you can have the commish replace that player with a real pick when you are available.

Note that because queued picks are automatically processed, there is no role tantamount to a designated picker. As commissioner, I can enter a pick on anyone’s behalf. Other than that, you – or anyone else with access to your MFL password – will be the only one who can directly enter a pick.

If any of these instructions are unclear, please ask.

Guru
ID: 330592710
Sun, Aug 21, 2011, 22:36

Rules for 2011, as amended by league vote. Changes from 2010 are shown in italics.

I also added a section on position eligibility. This is not a change in rules, but merely defines our traditional league practice - and was inadvertently omitted from prior rule listings.

Draft
“Banzai” format: Same as a traditional snake, except the third round is reversed. Thus, the team with the first overall pick has the last pick in rounds 2, 3, and 4.

Roster
1 QB
2 RB
2 WR
1 WR/TE
1 TE
1 K
~~1 Team def~~ <=eliminated for 2011
2 DL
2 LB
2 DB
1 additional IDP (flex)
9 bench
24 Total

Decimal scoring is applied for all categories.

Offense Category Points
(apply to all players, including IDP)
Passing TD 4
Other TD 6 (all TDs, whether on offense, defense, or special teams)
Passing-2pt conv 1
Other-2pt conv 2
Passing yard 1/25 (i.e., .04 per yard)
Rushing yard 1/10 (i.e., .10 per yard)
Receiving yard 1/10
Punt return yard 1/10 (also applies to IDP)
Kick return yard 1/25 (also applies to IDP)
Kick return 0 (no deduction)
Int, fumbles lost -2

Kicking Points
(apply to all players, including IDP)
Extra point made 1
Extra point missed -1
FG under 40 yards 3
FG 40-49 yards 4
FG 50+ yards 5
Missed FG <30 -1
Missed FG 30+ 0

Indiv Defensive Player Points
(apply to all players, including offensive players and kickers)
Solo Tackle 1
Asst Tackle 0.5
Tackle for loss 2
QB hit 1
Pass defensed 1
Sack 1 (half sack=0.5)
Interception 3
Fumble forced 2
Fumble recovery 2
TD 6 (all TDs, whether on offense, defense, or special teams)
Safety 3
Blocked kick (FG, XP, punt) 2

Unlisted players
During the draft, any player may be drafted, regardless of whether or not the player is listed at the hosting game site. Once the draft is completed, unlisted players may not be added to any roster. This applies for any post-draft waiver processing as well.

In the event that a drafted player is not listed after the draft has completed, a placeholder player will be assigned to the drafting team, to be replaced by the drafted player as soon as he is available.

Position eligibility
Except as defined below, a player's position eligibility will be that assigned by the league hosting site.

If a player is listed at one position when drafted and that position is subsequently changed by the hosting site, the manager drafting that player may elect to retain the original position. In this event, that player will keep the drafted position eligibility until he is dropped or traded, at which time the eligibility will revert to the hosting system's default position.

Priority Claiming
All free agents (any players not on a current roster) are subject to a weekly claiming process at noon on Wednesday. Following each of the first 6 weeks of the season, the priorities will reset weekly based on the reverse of W/L percentage (with applicable tiebreakers). After that, priorities will not be reset during the regular season. Throughout the season, when a player is claimed, the claiming team moves to the end of the claiming priority list. Following the final regular season game, priorities will be reset based on playoff seed, with the top seed getting the top priority. Thereafter, throughout the playoffs, priorities will again adjust only when a claim is awarded.

Starting at 3:00pm on each Wednesday, all free agents may be picked up by any team "first come, first served" without any change in priority status. Dropped players will be subject to a one day waiver period, subject to processing rules administered at the hosting site. Managers may not “cycle” though a series of free agents solely for the purpose of blocking them from availability. In such instances, the Commissioner will take appropriate corrective action.

Immediately following the draft, undrafted players will be subject to a priority claiming process, with priorities equal to the reverse of the first round draft order.

Starting five minutes prior to the scheduled start of each NFL game, no player in that game may be dropped, regardless of whether the player is an active or bench player.

Schedule
13 week round robin
Doubleheaders all weeks 1-13 (play each team twice)
Single elimination playoffs, weeks 14-16

Trades and trade deadline
During the draft, trades may include draft picks. Trades will normally be approved immediately by the Commissioner, assuming they are reasonably balanced. If league managers believe an announced trade is unbalanced, they should protest the trade ASAP.

After the draft, trades will be subject to a review period. For the first 24 hours following a trade, managers may protest a trade by posting a message at the RotoGuru forum, or by sending an email to the Commissioner. If at least 3 managers protest a trade within 24 hours of its announcement, then all managers will be polled within the next 24 hours. If seven or more managers vote to veto a trade, then it will not be approved. If a proposed trade is announced less than 24 hours before the earliest freeze for any player involved, then the entire trade will not be processed until the following week.

If a trade does not receive at least 3 protests, then it will be effective 24 hours after it is announced. If a trade receives at least 3 protests but the protests are not upheld in a full league vote, then the trade will be processed 48 hours after it is announced.

The trade deadline is the weekend following the final week with byes.

Stat corrections
Official stat corrections will be automatically applied. This typically happens on Thursday morning. In the playoffs, this can lead to an issue if a team is suddenly “back in the game”, but that team was unable to make roster moves the prior day. If a stat correction changes a playoff matchup at the last minute, then any impacted team will be given the opportunity to make a last minute roster move, if needed. The Commissioner will attempt to ensure that this provision is enabled as fairly as possible under the circumstances.

During the playoffs, once the first game of the week has started, no stat corrections will be allowed thereafter.

Playoffs
8 teams, single elimination
The 8 teams will be those with the top 6 W/L records plus the two other teams with the most points
The top four seeds will be based on W/L record (including applicable tiebreakers)
Seeds 5-8 will be based on total points for the other four playoff teams
Teams with equivalent W/L records are ranked based on head-to-head first (regardless of the number of teams tied), then total points.
Bracket is fixed (no reseeding after each round)

Players at the primary skill positions (QB, RB, WR) ~~and team defenses~~ may not be added for any reason during the playoffs. Free agents at these positions will be locked out after the final regular season game. You may drop a player at one of these positions, but once dropped, that player cannot be added later.

Players at the other positions (TE, PK, IDP) may be added or dropped according to normal regular season guidelines, subject to playoff claiming priorities, if applicable.

If a playoff game ends in a tie score, the team with the better seed shall advance.

Teams which are not still active in the Championship playoffs may not make any transactions - adds or drops - even if they are still competing in the Consolation bracket.

Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Aug 22, 2011, 10:42

MFL added a new option this year:

If you're in an email draft, but don't want to be overwhelmed with too many emails or text messages, there is a new option on both the For Owners > Franchise Setup > Contact Info page and the For Owners > Franchise Setup > Wireless pages called "When I'm On The Clock For My Draft" which will allow you to only receive emails or text messages when it's your turn to draft, as opposed to when each pick is made.

Electroman
Donor
ID: 010833614
Mon, Aug 22, 2011, 18:36

I had asked before in the other thread, Does the MFL iPhone App have the draft feature?

The Beezer
Dude
ID: 191202817
Mon, Aug 22, 2011, 19:23

I don't believe it does. I looked at all of the apps just now and none of them mention a draft feature.

The Beezer
Dude
ID: 191202817
Mon, Aug 22, 2011, 21:21

I stand corrected. FF Draft Advisor states that it is a cheatsheet app that supports drafting on the iPhone for $1.99.

Judy
ID: 54203110
Mon, Aug 22, 2011, 22:35

BTW

The AAA leagues have started drafting, See the links in the header above.

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Mon, Aug 22, 2011, 23:49

Another new MFL option. When you get ready to set a new round of picks you can "Add all from the previous round."

Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Mon, Aug 22, 2011, 23:56

Pretty sure that's been there for a few years. You can do the same with waiver claims.

Now, an "Add all Eagles" button would be new. Interested to see if they drop to you in rounds 1 and 2, and maybe even 3 :D

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Tue, Aug 23, 2011, 15:57

Yeah, that would be a nice feature. Also, "exclude all Jints and Cowgirls" would work too.

Electroman
Donor
ID: 010833614
Tue, Aug 23, 2011, 19:17

I made my pick, draft is underway.

holt
ID: 40711121
Tue, Aug 23, 2011, 22:33

Just a heads up. I called Justin (Fugazi). He wants Aaron Rodgers. I emailed Guru to see if he could enter it.

Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Tue, Aug 23, 2011, 23:00

QB run, get them before they're gone.

Russelldl
ID: 10792323
Wed, Aug 24, 2011, 00:09

Doesn't look like it's getting to me tonight. I'll check back in the AM.

Letter_J
ID: 27749245
Wed, Aug 24, 2011, 06:49

Re [15], Not sure what time zone Russelldl is in, but I'll be in Court from 8:30 EST to 9:30 EST. If it gets to me before then, I'll probably select then. If it does not, it'll be after 9:30 that I'll be available.

Letter_J
ID: 27749245
Wed, Aug 24, 2011, 07:01

I also set myself up for wireless notifications (nice option), so that I am quickly aware of what is transpiring during our draft.

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Wed, Aug 24, 2011, 08:26

Darn you YR!

I went to bed hopin'...

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Wed, Aug 24, 2011, 08:33

pretty sure that russelldl is left coast...?

russelldl
ID: 16544922
Wed, Aug 24, 2011, 09:28

Nope, I'm east coast (Baltimore). Just spent awhile waffling on my pick. Sorry for the delay.

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Wed, Aug 24, 2011, 11:03

Then it was the other d russell from AAA last year that was left.

Letter_J
ID: 21740118
Wed, Aug 24, 2011, 11:11

Back in Court this afternoon from 12:15 to 3:30 EST, but will check in periodically.

Tree
ID: 14756248
Wed, Aug 24, 2011, 12:12

Where on the MFL site can i find who's already been picked??

Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Wed, Aug 24, 2011, 12:14

Report > League > Draft, you're an MFL vet, you should know this :P

youngroman
ID: 56523304
Wed, Aug 24, 2011, 12:18

Judy - McCoy was simply the best player out there, with the exception of CJ2K. but who knows when he will show up on the field. you have the chance to steal 3 Eagles away from me in rounds 2 to 4.

surprised that QBs and WRs are going a lot earlier this year. what has changed? are there really more RBBC or are QBs and WRs the safer bets?

Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Aug 24, 2011, 12:24

Actually, last year there were 3 QBs and 3 WRs taken in the first round. Andre Johnson was pick #5, and Aaron Rodgers went #7. Prior to 2010, the first round was almost all RBs, but not last year.

2010 RIFC draft

Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Aug 24, 2011, 12:46

Looks like TD has a queue for 2.01, but not for 1.14 - which probably means his 1.14 queue is empty.

TD
Leader
ID: 036331011
Wed, Aug 24, 2011, 12:51

Yes, the 1.14 queue emptied out with the last few picks. I have a meeting until 2pm EDT. I will make my picks shortly after it is over.

Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Wed, Aug 24, 2011, 12:58

Just a general queue request.

If people are going to leave queues, make them long enough to last. Leaving short queues when you're only a few picks away is also easy and will prevent avoidable delays. All the waiting between picks eventually adds up and extends the draft by days and it's better we end it as soon as possible so people can be back to their normal schedules without having to worry about checking in when they have more important obligations.

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Wed, Aug 24, 2011, 13:44

YR

I was praying you would take CJ2K...we shall see what happens in 2-4...

Bonka

I agree to a point, but a 10+ player Q is tough to leave in the early rounds as you need to see what is happening...
I am nervous leaving an 8 player Q so early. Hopefully it will be closer before I actually have to leave for about 5 hours.

I_AM_CANADIAN
Sustainer
ID: 01361448
Wed, Aug 24, 2011, 14:00

Just remember:

We have a 2 ROUNDS PER DAY pace that we are supposed to be trying to achieve; you don't want to be the person who holds up the pace for hours on end, as it hurts us all.

I know the draft only officially started today, but in those 7 hours, we've been held up twice (potentially thrice), and have only achieved 5 picks.

It's a small sample size, but if we were to continue a 80 minute/per pick pace it'd take us 470 hours or almost 20 days straight (not taking in account the 6 hour clock-stop during the night... that'd bring us to over 26 days).

I know we WILL do better than that, but it's good to keep in mind, IF we were to think to ourselves, "It's OK they can wait 1-2 hours." No, we really can't!

Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Wed, Aug 24, 2011, 14:10

Well crap, probably could have taken Calvin and still got Gore.

TD
Leader
ID: 036331011
Wed, Aug 24, 2011, 14:18

No you couldn't have. McFadden, Mendenhall, and Gore were on my queue for 1.14.

Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Wed, Aug 24, 2011, 14:28

Alright, so I made the right move. Good to know :D

Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Aug 24, 2011, 14:49

Last year it took 51 hours to clear the 1st two rounds. The opening rounds always seem to take longer, as people are less willing to leave extended queues, and there's also a need to get (re)acclimated to the draft system.

But... the points made are good ones. If you decide not to leave a queue, then common etiquette dictates that you check progress regularly.

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Wed, Aug 24, 2011, 14:50

I am now out until about 8. Q is set for 2.07. Need to see what is happening before I fill my 3.08 Q.

IAC: Based on history with MFL draft Q's, we will be fine. I'll bet we are finished w/i a week -- next Thursday midnight. The early rounds always take the longest.

I_AM_CANADIAN
Sustainer
ID: 01361448
Wed, Aug 24, 2011, 15:15

RE 36: read my last line:

"I know we WILL do better than that"

Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Wed, Aug 24, 2011, 15:32

Shooting for 3 rounds a day is a decent pace.

I_AM_CANADIAN
Sustainer
ID: 01361448
Wed, Aug 24, 2011, 15:38

I may be looking to move up into the mid-2nd...

I'd be willing to offer my early 3rd, and flop the 4ths. Let me know if anyone is looking to slide back.

Russelldl
ID: 10792323
Wed, Aug 24, 2011, 15:38

Sorry for the delays. I'm getting text but they are slow and sporadic. It might be my service in my office. I also thought I would be able to make my pick from my phone since every other part of mfl seems to work. Two lessons learned.

Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Wed, Aug 24, 2011, 15:45

No trades allowed, you stay behind me in round 3 where you belong. If anyone of value comes our way, he's mine.

TD
Leader
ID: 036331011
Wed, Aug 24, 2011, 15:46

Is there a way to refresh a Q to remove players that are already selected?

Michael Turner is still on my queue for pick 3.01 even though he was selected with pick 2.05.

Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Wed, Aug 24, 2011, 15:47

Just go back to edit the queue and remove him. It doesn't matter though, you can leave them in, it doesn't harm anything.

TD
Leader
ID: 036331011
Wed, Aug 24, 2011, 15:50

I know it does not matter. It would just be easier for me to determine if I needed to replenish my queue if players already picked were automatically removed.

Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Wed, Aug 24, 2011, 15:58

Yeah, I think this came up last year. My guess is they don't remove them automatically because you can run in to issues by doing so, where as if they're left in, there are no issues if picks are changed after they're made.

Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Aug 24, 2011, 16:01

[45] I figured the same thing. It would be useful if players already drafted could be displayed in a different font, though.

Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Aug 24, 2011, 16:06

I just set up the Rationale thread. Usually, we'd start filling it in as we reach round three. However, since the round three draft order is different than round one (making for clumsy sequential timing), if you want to start filling in the opening round rationales now (assuming that it won't impact anything currently going on), please do so.

Remember, if you are providing a rationale out of sequence, please put it in this thread. It's easier for me to copy them over from this thread - and also easier for me to find them here.

Letter_J
ID: 27749245
Wed, Aug 24, 2011, 22:00

I trust that it will not make it back to me tonight...going to bed as it's 11:00 AST. If it does, I'll pick first thing in the morning.

Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 09:12

I received an email from MFL stating that some player positions will be changed on Friday morning. Most are IDPs. Here's the list.

I doubt if any of these players will be drafted before tomorrow, so the new positions will be operative if and when they are drafted.

Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 11:13

I copied over the round 1 rationales. Only a few are missing. Thanks for keeping up to date.

TD, when you make your pick at 4.01, you can also post rationales (or placeholders) for 1.14 and 2.01, and then we'll be in sync with the current draft sequence.

Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 11:41

Now the first of a few long waits between picks. The not so fun part. Leave me some good players, thanks!

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 12:33

You stinker russeldl. I was SURE that Maclin would make it to me. It looks like you and YR are planning to rob me of my choices!!

Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 12:36

I'll trade you an Eagle to be named later for Ingram.

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 13:03

all the ones I wanted are gone Bonka...

I_AM_CANADIAN
Sustainer
ID: 01361448
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 13:06

RE 72: Yeah, the rest are all bums!

Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 13:22

Judy - I expected you to take DeSean in round 2

Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 13:23

I had two players in mind for this pick (4.09), and hoped that YR would settle the decision. He didn't.

I'll decide shortly...

russelldl
ID: 16544922
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 13:34

Sorry Judy,
He was the last guy on my queue so blame everyone ahead of me.

Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 13:38

Guru, if you can't decide, I'll swap you my next pick and take on the heavy burden.

Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 13:39

I'll also take that as you missing me drafting next to you. Now you don't have someone narrowing your lists down for you :D

Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 13:50

[79] I did think of that. It's still early, though. I have some history with YR snapping up my picks as well. He'll undoubtedly wait until my short list is down to one name.

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 13:52

guru

I didn't think he was Round 2 material. I would have taken him in round 3 though. I actually think Maclin will do better than DJax this year. He is more consistent although DJax certainly has that big play potential. I expect DJax to get a lot of coverage, leaving Maclin free...it sure looks like I won't have much fantasy cheering to do this season while watching the Iggles...

Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 13:54

I would have taken Jones, for what it's worth.

I_AM_CANADIAN
Sustainer
ID: 01361448
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 14:20

Congrats to the guys using the Pre-Draft List! So far 20 of the first 51 picks have been using that tool. Also, 6 picks already queued up in the next couple rounds, well done. We'd be in a lot worse shape if we didn't have as many people using it.

Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 14:26

Person with the highest average pick time doesn't get invited back next year!

Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 14:59

51 picks in 41 hours. Last year we needed 72 hours to get through 51 picks.

The Beezer
ID: 0944216
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 15:08

Crap, nearly got Felix. Just got done with a meeting so I will regroup and pick in a few minutes.

Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 15:17

Holmes was my other option.

Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 15:21

I figured it was Felix/Holmes. Top 2 left by a good margin.

Electro from iphone
ID: 97402514
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 15:40

Gonna make my picks when i get home, around supper time, if my spot comes up.

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 17:31

Anybody else in the path of Irene?

She should begin to hit Philly/NJ area Sat night and stick around for about 24 hours. Do we have contingencies if folks do not have power? It doesn't seem fair to mess up a draft due to mother nature... I know we can set Q's but how far in advance will they last?

Just askin' in case she really does arrive here or at anyone else. Going out now to take in the porch furniture...

TD
Leader
ID: 036331011
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 17:53

I am also in the path of Irene (Philly area). Not sure how I will be able to draft if I am without power for an extended period of time.

Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 18:05

We'll just have to play it by ear.

I see that many of you have provided a cell phone number in your franchise info. I've done that as well. Hopefully, we can use that to communicate if all else fails. If you try to call me,use my regular phone # first, because my cell is not typically turned on.

If we lose power here in CT, it would likely be on Sunday (based on current forecasts.) I should still be able to keep my cell phone and laptop charged using my car - so I should be able to stay in contact, as long as Verizon doesn't lose their local cell tower.

Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 18:05

Yeah, I'm a bit north of Philly, but we could still get hit by something here. Best bet is just to call someone from a cell to at least just say the power is out.

Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 18:09

All the more reason to keep pushing ahead as fast as we can for now.

TD
Leader
ID: 036331011
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 18:09

[81]
Judy,
I disagree with you about Maclin. He is recovering from an illness and not in football shape. I don't think he will be at full strength all season.

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 18:41

TD
you are probably right for the first half of the season, but I think he will be good to go for the second half. We shall see.

Electroman
Donor
ID: 010833614
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 18:45

As long as he is full stregnth for the playoff Super Bowl run and parade...

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TD
Leader
ID: 036331011
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 19:02

Judy

I hope you are right about Maclin being good in the 2nd half of the season.

I would like the Eagles starters to play much better tonight to get some confidence. Last weeks game was very disappointing.

I think it will be a few games into the season before the defense starts playing real well with all the new players and coaches.

107

Kyle
Sustainer
ID: 052753312
Fri, Aug 26, 2011, 02:12

As a long time follower/player of RIFC I love reading your guy's rationales, but for the first time I think I caught Guru doing one of the faux pas of them ;) In 3.09 he mentioned an undrafted player (and odds are he'll be undrafted for the next 3 years in RIFC) but undrafted nonetheless.

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judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Fri, Aug 26, 2011, 09:09

russeldl

Just to ease your mind, Maclin said in an interview last night that he expects to play in the season opener...

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Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Fri, Aug 26, 2011, 10:31

I just knew the Canadian buggers were going to go QB QB right in front of me and take 2 of the 3 guys in my queue. Hate how early QBs go here, I don't really get it. Having to take guys 2-3 rounds early just so you aren't the last one taking a QB.

119

Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Fri, Aug 26, 2011, 11:07

I'll be back in an hour and a half or so at most if it gets to me, which it doesn't look like it will in that time.

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russelldl
ID: 16544922
Fri, Aug 26, 2011, 12:18

Thanks Judy, that's good news. Now if he can just get Chris Johnson and Peyton Manning ready, I may be able to field a team week 1.

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Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Aug 26, 2011, 13:31

We were the last of the four RIFC leagues to start drafting, but we have now taken the lead (or at least tied with the AA league, which was the second-to-last to start.)

AAA-1 blew out to a fast start, but seems to have slowed alot. And although it looks like AAA-2 is in round 6, that's really only round 5. Their draft order was setup incorrectly, and the best adapttive measure was to effectively eliminate the round formerly known as "round 4" and add an extra round at the end.

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Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Fri, Aug 26, 2011, 13:51

We could start the drafts in the future after the week 3 preseason games if it seems we can finish in a week.

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I_AM_CANADIAN
Sustainer
ID: 01361448
Fri, Aug 26, 2011, 13:56

RE 124:

True, but a couple bad "hiccups" and suddenly we don't have enough time to run free agency.

IF we were to consider moving it up, I think we'd have to cut the clock down to about 4 hours (which should still be sufficient).

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judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Fri, Aug 26, 2011, 14:03

YR -- cut it out! You did it agin. I had Willis and Pos at my top for round 7!

Sheesh!

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Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Aug 26, 2011, 14:16

We've still got potential Hurricane issues to navigate as well.

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Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Fri, Aug 26, 2011, 14:29

Getting through 24 rounds in a week is cake, as long as people make good use of queues. It's improved since last year I think. This is why I wanted to move the drafts on to MFL, it's just so much easier having everything on the same site and the automated queues were much quicker than designated pickers. Still trying to get them to implement conditional queues so you can use different queues based on the last position you selected. Makes it easier to leave multi round queues if needed.

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judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Fri, Aug 26, 2011, 14:36

Yes but I do not like that I am going out for about 5 hours and need to have two Q's ready to keep things rolling. The first one is fine. The second one I would like to make unavailable so that it does not automatically pick for me. I would like to keep the players in the list, but the option to readjust them depending upon what has happened in between.

I can set up a list for round 9, but I do not necessarily want to use it right away. I want time to tweak it. So it means that I do not set a round 9 Q and when I get back I have to pick those names all over again.

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I_AM_CANADIAN
Sustainer
ID: 01361448
Fri, Aug 26, 2011, 14:39

Noticed, picking shortly.

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The Beezer
ID: 0944216
Fri, Aug 26, 2011, 14:46

Judy, I think you can use the "my draft list" option under the owners menu to help with that. Not sure if it helps, but it allows you to create a list of players you want and then move some or all of them to different round lists as needed.

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judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Fri, Aug 26, 2011, 14:49

yeah but I still have to move them twice...

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Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Fri, Aug 26, 2011, 14:56

Stupid Canadian, ruining my plans again. I had Tolbert and Tuck in my queue. Guess I'll have to go with Allen.

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judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Fri, Aug 26, 2011, 15:02

I am going out until about 8 or so. I left a Q for the next round. Don't feel safe leaving one for the following round.

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Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Fri, Aug 26, 2011, 18:07

Want to mention that I don't have a smart phone, so if I lose power/dsl from the hurricane, I'm kind of screwed. I can actually travel 10 minutes to the shop we own and draft from there, but utilities could be out there too. I have my cell number on the site, so if it looks like I'm going to time out over the weekend, someone can give me a call and get me caught up on picks and I can get my picks taken care of.

I should be ok where I live, but you never know. The weather this year has been horrendous all over the country.

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Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Fri, Aug 26, 2011, 20:06

We had such good momentum going today too.

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judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Fri, Aug 26, 2011, 22:50

I wish there was a grid by position so we could tell what the guys ahead of us might be wanting so we can snatch them away. The MFL grid is a bit useless as you have to manually count how many of each position a manager has...

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Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Fri, Aug 26, 2011, 22:55

http://football22.myfantasyleague.com/2011/options?L=43096&O=105

Is that the page you're using? The actual draft grid is useless, this is more useful. Just needs to be reordered by draft order.

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Guru
ID: 330592710
Sat, Aug 27, 2011, 11:48

Gret job on keeping the rationales relatively up to date.

Here are the overdue rationales through round 7:
Fugazi
4.11 Chris Wells
5.04 Ochocinco
6.11 Julio Jones
7.04 B. Jacobs

Letter J
5.11 Schaub
7.11 O. Daniels

Tree
6.05 Collie
7.10 AJ Green

ywk
7.03 N. Suh

Judy
7.08 Timmons

IAC
7.12 Tuck

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Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Sat, Aug 27, 2011, 12:02

I expected IAC to jack Smith from me, not Shortbus :P

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Guru
ID: 330592710
Sat, Aug 27, 2011, 12:13

My queue just got obliterated. Back to the drawing board.

I knew YR would do it eventually.

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youngroman
ID: 56523304
Sat, Aug 27, 2011, 12:18

good to know that some of my players are on top of some queues. this means that I am not completely off. If only I would have known that you all are not in love with defense players. and that in the year where we expanded them to 7. now I hope that some of the players I target for later rounds are still available when I intend to pick them.

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Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Sat, Aug 27, 2011, 12:25

It's always fun selecting someone then checking their player page after the fact to notice they just injured their groin in the last day, before the pick was made. Doh. Get well soon Lance Moore.

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Judy
ID: 54203110
Sat, Aug 27, 2011, 13:09

Rationales are written but at home. Hope I will have electricity when I get back in a coupla hours.

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Judy
ID: 54203110
Sat, Aug 27, 2011, 13:14

BoNKA re 147

Thanks that's exactly what I wanted!

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The Beezer
Dude
ID: 191202817
Sat, Aug 27, 2011, 13:24

I'm not going to pay a lot for this ~~muffler~~ quarterback!

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holt
ID: 40711121
Sat, Aug 27, 2011, 14:32

just a heads up - I called Fugazi for his pick. Just waiting for him to call back with it.

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Electroman
Donor
ID: 010833614
Sat, Aug 27, 2011, 16:13

This is the best draft I have taken part in, nice to be with a group of managers like this. Shaping up to be a great year.

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judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Sat, Aug 27, 2011, 17:01

Coupla really annoying things about MFL draft program.

I click on round 12 edit link. It takes me to my round 11 picks. If I am not careful, I am changing my round 11 picks. Did that a coupla times in the beginning before I realized my mistake. When I click on the round 12 link, I want to go to the round 12 list!

The box with picks in it needs to be expandable. I often have more than the alloted 6 slots in my list and I have to keep scrolling to see the entire list (or click save and see the list in the grey box and then start the whole process over again.)

BUT THE BIGGEST HASSLE, is that it does not delete the guys from your Q that have already been chosen. I almost deleted a guy by misteak (!) that I wanted. So now I do not delete anyone so my lists are really long!

Anyone else annoyed by any of this?

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mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Sat, Aug 27, 2011, 17:22

What's most annoying to me is that there are virtually no changes/upgrades from last year.

Any company with a half-assed give a damn customer service department should be aware of issues and make improvements every year to strive for perfection.

Makes them look like they could care less and that's just BS.

185

SwinganaMiss
ID: 427542420
Sat, Aug 27, 2011, 17:29

My problem is that I can use my phone to browse the site, watch the draft, even make a queue (when it's not my turn), however if it is my turn to draft, I cannot actually make a draft pick.
Not sure if I should blame MFL or my phone itself. Yes, I have a "dumb" phone, so I can't put apps and such on it.

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Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Sat, Aug 27, 2011, 17:39

IAC jacks Gronkowski out from under me. Go away.

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judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Sat, Aug 27, 2011, 18:13

GURU

We seem to be posting rationales right after picks. Is that OK or should we really wait for two rounds? I write 'em up right away, but then forget to post 'em.

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Guru
ID: 330592710
Sat, Aug 27, 2011, 18:26

Actually, Judy, I think you are the only one who occasionally posts them sooner than a 2-round lag. Bear in mind that we are already into round 12. Your 10.07 post is the only one out there that's ahead of schedule.

I don't care, as long as you don't think you are disclosing anything prematurely.

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TD
Leader
ID: 036331011
Sat, Aug 27, 2011, 18:44

Judy, I am annoyed by your biggest hassle, it does not delete the guys from your Q that have already been chosen. Because of this, I don't leave long queues. We should consider using kafenatid.net Drafttime in 2012. We used it for baseball in 2011 and there were many improvements.

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Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Sat, Aug 27, 2011, 18:48

What's the big deal about not removing players from the queue? There's a reason that isn't done. I just can't understand how that is anything but a very minor inconvenience for people.

193

TD
Leader
ID: 036331011
Sat, Aug 27, 2011, 18:58

To me it is a major inconvenience.

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Electroman
Donor
ID: 010833614
Sat, Aug 27, 2011, 19:02

RE 192:
Bonka, what is the reason it is not done?

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Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Sat, Aug 27, 2011, 19:18

If you have a queue of say Vick and Rodgers, and the 2 picks before you take Vick and Rodgers, then for some reason we change the Rodgers pick to someone else, Rodgers is still in your queue and can be taken. If the queue is emptied as players are picked, you'd have an empty queue or would be getting the next player in it.

It's not something that would commonly happen, but if it did, it would be messy. It's much safer to just leave queues as is. I just can't fathom how it's a major inconvenience to not have players removed from queues.

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judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Sat, Aug 27, 2011, 19:25

Oh, and I thought of another hassle. Not being able to close your Q while you are working on it. Sometimes I leave a Q and then stuff happens and I want to make changes and I mini panic that the autopick will go before I have a chance to change my mind. With 14 or so picks in between I like to leave a tentative Q, but I often change it as it gets closer. If it gets too close --- oops no more time. I am lucky to be able to be near a computer most of the time, but for the folks who are not...

Also early on I accidentally deleted Ingram and when I realized it I worried about getting him back in to the top before it was my turn. If I could close the Q, I could do that more carefully.

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Electroman
Donor
ID: 010833614
Sat, Aug 27, 2011, 19:29

Thanks for the explanation Bonka.

I think that maybe the problem is more not being familiar with the ins and outs of MFL, and being used to the other. I actually like the setup, being able to leave specific lists for specific rounds, especially being on the end.

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Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Sat, Aug 27, 2011, 19:30

By the way, if you guys don't like things or want new features, MFL has a feature request you can submit ideas in. It's under the help page somewhere. I suggest contacting them about anything you don't like and they may make changes.

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judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Sat, Aug 27, 2011, 19:35

197

but if a Q has players in it, it would automatically have picked your choice , MR X. And the draft would keep on going. If the Rodgers pick is changed to some one else, you would need to redo the draft from that point because the guy now does not want MR X, he wants Rodgers.

I think the likelihood of that happening is 0.00000001%. (non statistical estimate). I don't I've ever seen it happen, whereas not deleting the picked guy from the Q can happen at every Q.

Last year I got stuck with the Iggles D at 6 because I did not realize the new program was so fast and I set 6 up and went out expecting to come back with time to check out the in between picks, but boom there were the Iggles on my team.

The autopick/filled Q feature is nice to keep the draft going, but it does go really fast. I could slow up the draft by putting my next round picks on paper and wait until it was my turn to enter them but that is not the point and if we all did that, we'd still be drafting by Sept 11.

I want to be able to enter a tentative list for a round and close it. Then as it gets closer to my turn, I can relook over it, adjust it and if happy, open it up to autopick. I love that feature in Drafttime. It gives you time to think and change your mind.

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Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Sat, Aug 27, 2011, 19:42

Yeah, that's what the my draft list is for. You just have to copy them over to your queue when the time comes. If you want, submit a suggestion about adding that feature and see if they get back to you or implement it.

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Judy
ID: 54203110
Sat, Aug 27, 2011, 20:02

Hurricane update from Philly:

Been raining since 12:30, heavy the last hour or so, winds picking up. Winds will cause the power outages.

If it goes out overnight will email guru from cell tonight or in the am. Can draft from cell but awkward to do so -- assuming it is in service...

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judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Sat, Aug 27, 2011, 21:58

Uh Oh

Got some dimming lights here...down then back to normal...

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The Beezer
Dude
ID: 191202817
Sat, Aug 27, 2011, 23:07

Guru's Bradford rationale freaked me out. I somehow thought he had copied part of my rationale until I realized I hadn't posted it yet. Spooky!

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russelldl
ID: 16544922
Sat, Aug 27, 2011, 23:37

lights here in baltimore have gone out a few times but just for few minutes. I live in a neighborhood where the lines are buried so we seldom have long outages. Did I just jinx myself?

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Guru
ID: 330592710
Sun, Aug 28, 2011, 12:36

I'm around, but Beezer and I are in trade negotiations for the moment. He's pushing, I'm pulling. Not sure if anything will happen, but I want to sit tight until this is resolved.

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The Beezer
Dude
ID: 191202817
Sun, Aug 28, 2011, 12:45

We gave it a good effort. :)

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Guru
ID: 330592710
Sun, Aug 28, 2011, 12:51

Missed it by that much!

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Guru
ID: 330592710
Sun, Aug 28, 2011, 12:52

[222] referred directly to [220], but probably applies to a lot of picks!

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judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Sun, Aug 28, 2011, 14:39

Wow -- checked the check in page and the longest anyone has been away from the site today is 1 hour 35 minutes. Which tells me that a lot of folks are at home ready to go. COUld be a historic day for speed drafting!

C'mon EE!! Your turn at the turn!

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Bonka
ID: 23722816
Sun, Aug 28, 2011, 17:02

I'll pick shortly. I've had no power or internet at home most of the day, and likely won't until tomorrow I guess. I'm at our shop we own in town and luckily the internet is finally back on here. I just need to get caught up with the last 2 rounds.

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Bonka
ID: 23722816
Sun, Aug 28, 2011, 17:27

I have rationales for my previous picks, but they're on my home computer. I'll get them up when possible.

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judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Sun, Aug 28, 2011, 17:52

Bonka -- where are you? We escaped the power outages here in Philly -- just a coupla isolated places where trees fell down on wires. Lotta water though -- major flooding.

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I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 450482421
Sun, Aug 28, 2011, 18:00

Stepping out for a bit, should be back around 11PM ET. No time for a 20 player queue right now.

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Bonka
ID: 23722816
Sun, Aug 28, 2011, 18:10

I'm in Tamaqua, like 2 hours or so north of Philly. It's only me without power basically. A tree came down on the lines and there's like 3 houses and a high school without power. Not even sure if they're working on it yet. We didn't get hit real hard, but there were trees down in some places. Unlucky with the placement of that one. Internet is apparently still out at my house too, since a friend that lives nearby is still without it and it's the same ISP.

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judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Sun, Aug 28, 2011, 18:27

Another issue with MFL drafting. Some guys who changed teams have not been put with their new teams yet. In the player listings, the bye week is also not correct. They didn't bother to change from them 2010 to 2011. Now you could argue that we are looking at the 2010 stats, but it certainly does not help that the 2010 bye week is still there. That is a useless column -- so fix it or delete it!

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judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Sun, Aug 28, 2011, 18:28

So you got unlucky with just one tree...At least it didn't fall on your house!

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Bonka
ID: 23722816
Sun, Aug 28, 2011, 19:06

Judy, which players did you notice that on? I haven't seen incorrect bye weeks by the way.

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Judy
ID: 54203110
Sun, Aug 28, 2011, 19:16

Go to the pull down for reports--> players-->choose any category and look at the far right column. There is no 4 bye week and the others are not correct either.

Very confusing as you look at the 2010 stats and assume that the bye week is 2011 for drafting purposes.

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Bonka
ID: 23722816
Sun, Aug 28, 2011, 19:48

Yeah, don't know what to say about that. Since it's last years stats, it makes sense to have last year's bye week. But definitely could be confusing if people don't realize.

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Judy
ID: 54203110
Sun, Aug 28, 2011, 21:06

BoNKA

Either update the column for 2011 or delete it. As it it's bad.

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Bonka
ID: 23722816
Sun, Aug 28, 2011, 21:15

By the way, I just looked at the PPL site and they have an outage center page. Over 12k without power in just my county. Just got off the phone with my mom and apparently there's a lot of people without power around us as well. Just doesn't have anything to do with the tree on our line.

Lehigh county has 30k+ http://www.pplelectric.com/Outage+Center

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Bonka
ID: 23722816
Sun, Aug 28, 2011, 21:25

Their twitter says possibly 4-5 days to restore all power. Hopefully mine is restored tonight since of the 4 places on our power line, one is a high school and school starts tomorrow. If not, my availability may be sketchy the next few days since the shop I'm in currently will be open for business.

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The Beezer
Dude
ID: 191202817
Sun, Aug 28, 2011, 22:56

62 picks made today (so far) - that is quite a pace!

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judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Sun, Aug 28, 2011, 23:54

I think YR is probably asleep, so the run will happen around 3 am or so. I'm going to bed.

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judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Mon, Aug 29, 2011, 00:00

sheesh Fugazi's got 6 RB, 5 WR and 2 TE.

Does he know he can only play 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE and 1 WR/TE per week?
I would go nuts trying to make those choices and the bench guys would outplay the starter anyway...

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Bonka
ID: 23722816
Mon, Aug 29, 2011, 00:00

Cute, I may not have power back until the 31st. I'm extremely pissed. So yeah, I shouldn't have a huge issue getting picks in, but they may not be as timely as normal.

Best part is we run our own business, so we're completely screwed without power. All for 1 friggin tree.

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russelldl
ID: 16544922
Mon, Aug 29, 2011, 09:48

I'm here. It will just take me a minute to catch up on picks, make mine, and submit my rationales.

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Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Mon, Aug 29, 2011, 12:29

I do want to say I like the pace of the draft so far. Yesterday was great. Just need to keep it up and we'll be done by Wednesday easily. Always great to see big blocks of queues set up.

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Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Mon, Aug 29, 2011, 12:31

Oh, and for drafting with a guy who has no internet (Fugazi) and me not having power at home yesterday, I think it's even more cool that we're keeping a good pace. Even Irene can't keep us down.

274

holt
ID: 566231915
Mon, Aug 29, 2011, 12:45

Sorry guys - been ultra busy at the office up til now. Will call and get the pick from him.

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judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Mon, Aug 29, 2011, 13:00

guru
For #212 in rationales, I messed up the guys name.

It should be Jason Pierre-Paul. Can you fix easily?

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Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Aug 29, 2011, 13:47

wow - 3 first names!

I'll fix it the next time in in there making edits.

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Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Mon, Aug 29, 2011, 16:12

Looking to pick up a few more week 6 bye RBs. If you'd like to trade one to me, let me know!

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Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Aug 29, 2011, 22:23

[286] Glad I got your attention!

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The Beezer
Dude
ID: 191202817
Mon, Aug 29, 2011, 22:24

56 picks - 4 full rounds today (assuming YR is sleeping and we are done for the day). 50 to go!

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judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Mon, Aug 29, 2011, 22:29

Good move Guru, but surprised you did not make it earlier.
I was wondering who would take V Young. I was considering him for a while but decided to wait. If Vick (Your #1 QB) goes down the Iggles offense will continue with Young at the helm. But I finally decided that Rivers was better than Young and so ultimately decided to pass.

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I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 450482421
Mon, Aug 29, 2011, 22:39

FYI - It's just past 4:30AM in Austria right now (where I believe youngroman lives). He had a queue set for his last pick (3 hours ago), but most likely, we'll be waiting for him to wakeup in about 3-4 hours from now. I'd suggest making a queue in this "downtime". That said, it was another great day speed wise.

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Letter_J
ID: 27749245
Tue, Aug 30, 2011, 07:52

Sorry I fell a bit behind on my rationales...I got on the rum yesterday (and that`s never good!).

I`ll get them posted here throughout the day.

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judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Tue, Aug 30, 2011, 11:17

somebody wanna contact Holt and tell him Fugazi is up?

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I_AM_CANADIAN
Sustainer
ID: 01361448
Tue, Aug 30, 2011, 11:18

He gets the emails from MFL.

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judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Tue, Aug 30, 2011, 12:00

Great -- word outta Dodge (SD) is that Tolbert is the RB to own...looks like Mathews is a wasted #4 pick...Bonka's got Tolbert.

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Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Tue, Aug 30, 2011, 12:06

They're splitting time, possibly 50/50. That was out before the draft started :D

318

I_AM_CANADIAN
Sustainer
ID: 01361448
Tue, Aug 30, 2011, 12:13

Looks like we got a shot at finishing today! Incredible.

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Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Tue, Aug 30, 2011, 12:25

Finally my vision of getting this draft length cut down dramatically has come to fruition. Once everyone got accustomed, mostly, to MFL, the following year was blazing compared to previous years. No reason all RIFC drafts can't be around this length, as long as people make liberal use of queues and you avoid power/internet outages or anything else drastic.

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Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Aug 30, 2011, 14:04

Putting this in blue so that it stands out among the raft of rationale posts.

Please post your remaining rationales in this thread. That is the first order of business following the draft.

For now, I have locked out everyone's ability to make add/drop transactions. At some point, we'll run a post-draft waiver period, with priorities in the reverse order of round 1.

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Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Aug 30, 2011, 15:29

Agree that it was almost too fast for me as well.

Pretty amazing recap of waiting time at the bottom of the draft page. Only three people averaged over an hour, and the longest was 1:11 - Fugazi, who doesn't even have an internet connection! There have been years when the average time for the entire draft was around 1 hour.

331

Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Tue, Aug 30, 2011, 15:43

It's nice being done this early rather than people having to follow the draft for another few days. Can get back to their normal schedules unless they have other drafts running still.

337

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Tue, Aug 30, 2011, 19:31

330

And the winner was GHOSTWOOD -- under a minute for all picks!

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The Beezer
Dude
ID: 191202817
Tue, Aug 30, 2011, 20:06

For consideration next year:

Change the following rule from
"Immediately following the draft, undrafted players will be subject to a priority claiming process, with priorities equal to the reverse of the first round draft order."

to

"Immediately following the draft, undrafted players will be subject to a priority claiming process, with priorities equal to the reverse of the draft pick selection order."

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Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Tue, Aug 30, 2011, 20:41

Blind bidding would completely solve that issue :D

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I_AM_CANADIAN
Sustainer
ID: 01361448
Wed, Aug 31, 2011, 09:54

Guru: I know your busy updating the rational thread... thanks for that BTW, I realize it's a lot of copy/paste... but was wondering, are we doing a Recap this year?

Mine might be done already. ;)

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Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Aug 31, 2011, 10:29

I just entered the remaining rationales. Thanks to the twelve that stayed current throughout the draft.

Two of you missed one rationale - probably by oversight.

Youngroman is missing 19.07 Todd Heap
Judy is missing 22.07 Steve Smith
Fugazi is missing rounds 14-24
Tree is missing rounds 16-24

Fugazi has no internet connection, so I'm grateful that he was able to stay current on the draft through his brother, Holt. Still want those remaining rationales ASAP, however.

Tree is on the internet all the time, so I'm not sure what his excuse is. Laggard! (hey, it worked once before...)

I will set up a draft recap thread shortly.

We still need to decide when to run the post-draft waivers. Typically, it's about 2 days after the completion of the draft, but we've never finished so far in advance of the season. Does that timing still make sense?

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judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Wed, Aug 31, 2011, 10:35

sorry thought I fad posted this already:

22.07 Steve Smith WR PHL
This is really a fill in pick as I needed another WR to cover the Week 11 byes of A Brown, A Johnson and E Sanders. Smith began practicing for the Iggles this week and since I won’t need him until later that’s OK. He was a reliable target for Eli posting consistent, steady stats. He has consistently averaged around 11 yards/catch and in 2009 had an incredible 107 receptions. Now THAT is just not gonna happen in Philly. He is listed as the #6 WR, but frankly, that’s a joke. I see him as the #3 behind DJax, Maclin, 3 x (undrafted guys). He’s better than #4 and 5 for sure. We will need to see how he recovers from his injury. Fortunately I have time to see how the Iggles/Vick do or do not use him. He might be the first to go if I need to pick up someone else. Sorry Steve.

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TD
Leader
ID: 036331011
Wed, Aug 31, 2011, 11:29

I am for waiting until after this weekend games to run post-draft waivers. My primary reason is that I have highest priority :)

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Tree
ID: 41512710
Wed, Aug 31, 2011, 12:11

Tree is on the internet all the time, so I'm not sure what his excuse is. Laggard!

A.D.D., big time.

16.05 Marion Barber, RB, Chi
This is the part of the draft where i think people start going for depth, and locating those guys who pay end up paying dividends by season's end. Barber is one of those guys. all accounts have him running on fresh legs, and i think he's going to really piss off Matt Forte owners by stealing TDs, and by season's end, carries.

17.10 Charles TIllman, DB, Chi
We have to draft DBs, right? ok, cool. Tillman gets me picks and tackles.

18.05 Hines Ward, WR, Pit
A combination of depth, sleeper, and value. Ward might be the #3 WR on the Steelers, but he's a solid #3 on a fantasy team here, and he's going much later than that. i think i'll get a lot of value here.

19.10 Anthony Armstrong, WR, Was
Boom or bust, and a depth choice. Another guy i think is going much later than he oughta, and at this point, again, i think value is an important component of depth.

20.05 Tashard Choice, RB, Dal
I've always liked Choice. I have no idea why he hasn't really gotten the chance in Dallas. He's still got two guys in front of him, but this time one's brittle, and the other is a rookie. if he a gets a chance to play, he's gonna do some damage. but that's a big if.

21.10 Andy Dalton, QB, Cin
Romo's got an early bye, so i wanted to go ahead and draft a backup to cover that. Dalton was the best of the best, and his match up during Romo's bye week is a reasonably decent one.

22.05 Jerome Harrison, RB, Det
Did i mention depth? ok, i did. Javid Best strikes me as fragile, so Harrison should earn some starts. a RB doing that who is taken this deep in the draft, is value.

23.10 Josh Brown, PK, StL
kicker. dome. high-scoring offense. Kurt Warner as QB. ok, well, not that last part. and the part before that remains to be seen. but hey, he's a kicker. in a dome. right, they still play in a dome?

24.05 Joe Haden, DB, Cle
i needed anther DB. Joe Haden is a DB. Odd to say a DB is a sleeper, but i think Haden is. All 6 of his interceptions came in the last 11 games of the season. he's got great speed, and a knack for the ball and ball carrier. honestly, i really like this pick.

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Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Wed, Aug 31, 2011, 12:27

Just run waivers starting now until Wednesday IMO. That way people can start putting in their players now and they'll actually run a day before the season begins, leaving the most amount of time for injuries and such to happen.

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youngroman
ID: 56523304
Wed, Aug 31, 2011, 13:22

here is my missing rationale. don't know why I missed to post it.

19.07 Todd Heap, TE, ARI
gone are the days where Todd Heap was drafted as a top 5 tight end. the receiving corp of Arizona is questionable behind Larry Fitzgerald. Kevin Kolb might look for Heap often, which would be good for his value. i picked Heap a bit as an insurance for a little banged up Kellen Winslow. the question is now, which one of my TE's will see more games on the field and which one will see more games on my team. I hope the sum of he 2nd total is 16.

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holt
ID: 40711121
Thu, Sep 01, 2011, 00:24

This might be a dumb question but is it known for a fact that a sack is also scored as a tackle for a loss? or is it possible that they are scored like saves and holds are (you get one or the other but not both)? I was just looking at 2010 stats and C Long had 8.5 sacks but only 8 tfl. Made me wonder.

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Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Thu, Sep 01, 2011, 00:30

Yes, sack is TFL. Long had 9.5 TFL and 8.5 sacks according to MFL.

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Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Sep 01, 2011, 08:29

I have yet to find a situation in MFL where TFL < sacks for any game.

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holt
ID: 566231915
Thu, Sep 01, 2011, 11:58

Thanks. The website I was looking at obviously has different tfl numbers.

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holt
ID: 566231915
Thu, Sep 01, 2011, 12:52

for Fugazi

14.11 Matt Cassell, QB, KC

Nothing fancy here. Nothing more than a fill-in on Rodgers' bye week, hopefully. Wanted Antonio Brown but Judy stole him so just went with the boring backup QB.

15.04 Lance Kendricks, TE, StL

this one was basically poor communication between the brothers holt. Fugazi tells holt that he wants Kendricks late in the draft, holt can't contact fugazi right away when his 15th rd pick comes up and just takes Kendricks, probably a few rds early. Kendricks will be an important part of the Ram offense. He is more of a receiver than a blocker. Has looked great in the preseason and may be a top 5 TE before too long. Still, he's a Ram and probably would have been ignored for a few more rounds. That being said, when you want a certain player, sometimes you have to reach to make sure you get them.

16.11 LaMarr Woodley, LB, PIT

Major homer pick. All Steelers are the best and Woodley is a Steeler so he is the best LB to take here. Woodley is a big play maker, OLB in the 3-4 means some sacks and int's, maybe a td. His tackle numbers were down last year but should bounce back some. He's on the cover of SI (go look ) so you know he's good! The phone call on this was "your pick is up" - "is Woodley there?" - "yes" - "take him!" - "ok bye"

17.04 Karlos Dansby, LB, MIA

Highest LB available according to an average of the idp cheat sheets being used. Dansby has always been solid, he's healthy, and the news on him is all positive this preseason.

18.11 Sean Weatherspoon, LB, ATL

Again, the highest LB from idp cheatsheets being used. No bad news, some good news, that was it. 2010 1st rd draft pick, very athletic, decent upside pick.

19.04 Morgan Burnett, DB, GB

Moving on from LB to DB, the direction here was to use the idp cheat sheets but go with young DB's without an established ceiling. Burnett is a sleeper pick, plays strong safety, some think he could be a breakout player this year. Probably just the first of many DB's in Fugazi's idp revolving door.

20.11 Alterraun Verner, DB, TEN

Just another youthful DB high on the IDP cheat sheets. May or may not be a part of team fugazi come week two (or one?). Played well last year but may not even be #1 on the depth chart now.

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