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Subject: RIFC 2012: Draft Discussion

  Posted by: Guru - [330592710] Sat, Aug 25, 2012, 10:55
The RIFC draft officially starts Sunday, August 26. The clock will be set at 6 hours but will not be active until Monday, with a moratorium from 1am-7am EDT. Please note: The clock will continue to run on weekends.

People at the endpoints of the draft have only one single time limit to make their consecutive picks. Similarly, the clock will be manually advanced to skip past anyone who already has a pick in arrears, unless other arrangements have been made in advance of that pick.

Remember that we are using a “Banzai” draft order, which differs from the traditional snake in that the order of the third round (and only that round) is reversed. The MFL system shows the correct order.

We will maintain a draft discussion thread here, but it will probably not be used extensively. If you know that you have pending time constraints, please post them in this thread. (e.g., "I'll be away until 6pm ET, so if my pick is due before then, you'll have to wait.") To the extent that you can alert everyone to potential availability issues, you can help others to plan their check-in times accordingly. That's simply good draft etiquette. I’ll also use this thread for general announcements about the draft.

Note that trades during the draft are allowed. Trades should be announced here, and may include any combination of picks and/or players.

Players who are not yet listed at myfantasyleague.com may be drafted, and if so, a placeholder player will be assigned to your roster until that player is available. Once the draft is complete, you may no longer sign (or protect) an unlisted player.

Please be sure you understand all of the scoring and roster rules for this league. The current rules will be copied into post 2 of this thread.

Rationales will be expected for each pick, but delayed by two rounds. When we near the end of round two, I will set up a thread for those.

Please refrain from mentioning undrafted players, either in this thread, or in your posted rationale.

If you wish to track the draft without directly accessing the mfl site (e.g., if that site is blocked from your access at work), the following links may be used:

List view: http://69.13.158.155/cgi-bin/mfldraft.pl?league=46266
Grid view: http://69.13.158.155/cgi-bin/mfldraftgrid.pl?league=46266

This will also allow you to keep tabs on other RIFC drafts as well. Note, however, that this is strictly a viewing mechanism. It will not allow you to actually enter a draft pick, or set up a queue. For that, you will still need to log directly into the mfl site - or else email the commish to do it.
 
1Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sat, Aug 25, 2012, 10:58 		Here are some guidelines for executing your draft picks. These have been copied from the 2011 draft thread, so it is possible that there have been some enhancements since then:

1. "My Draft List" - Under the "For Owners" menu (at the top), there is an item called My Draft List. You can think of this as your personal pre-ranking of players if you wish, although it has one important operational impact. If your 6-hour clock expires, then your pick will be automatically selected as the top name on your "My Draft List". Only if that list is empty will your pick be skipped. (More on this in a moment.)

2. "Pre-Draft Pick" list - These are the equivalent of the kafenatid "queue", with several important distinctions:
There is a separate list/queue for each round, and they do not carry over, and
If there is a name in your queue, that player will be immediately selected when it is your turn to draft. The only way to turn off a round-specific queue is to empty it.
Therefore, it is important to keep your queues empty unless you are sure that they should be used. If you expect to want to load & unload your queue frequently (similar to turning it on or off), then you should probably keep a list of players in "My Draft list", as you can quickly pull up that short list to add players to any queue.

Of course, if you have players in "My Draft List", then you are also subject to having those players selected if you should time-out. Typically, that shouldn't be a problem, as timing-out should be a rare occurrence.

If you want to keep players loaded in "My Draft List" and you don't want to risk the top name being selected automatically upon timeout, then I suggest putting a "placeholder" player at the top of your list - preferably someone who is retired, or injured, or clearly not a viable pick. We can come up with specific placeholder options, if needed. If you time-out and a placeholder player is automatically selected for you, then you can have the commish replace that player with a real pick when you are available.

Note that because queued picks are automatically processed, there is no role tantamount to a designated picker. As commissioner, I can enter a pick on anyone’s behalf. Other than that, you – or anyone else with access to your MFL password – will be the only one who can directly enter a pick.

If any of these instructions are unclear, please ask. And if anything is incorrect, please alert!
 
2Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sat, Aug 25, 2012, 11:03 		Rules for 2012, as amended by league vote. Changes from 2011 are shown in italics.

Draft
“Banzai” format: Same as a traditional snake, except the third round is reversed. Thus, the team with the first overall pick has the last pick in rounds 2, 3, and 4.

Roster
1 QB
2 RB
2 WR
1 WR/TE
1 TE
1 K
2 DL
2 LB
2 DB
1 additional IDP (flex)
9 bench
24 Total

Decimal scoring is applied for all categories.

Offense Category Points
(apply to all players, including IDP)
Passing TD 4
Other TD 6 (all TDs, whether on offense, defense, or special teams)
Passing-2pt conv 1
Other-2pt conv 2
Passing yard 1/25 (i.e., .04 per yard)
Rushing yard 1/10 (i.e., .10 per yard)
Receiving yard 1/10
Punt return yard 1/10 (also applies to IDP)
Kick return yard 1/25 (also applies to IDP)
Kick return 0 (no deduction)
Int, fumbles lost -2

Kicking Points
(apply to all players, including IDP)
Extra point made 1
Extra point missed -1
FG under 40 yards 3
FG 40-49 yards 4
FG 50+ yards 5
Missed FG <30 -1
Missed FG 30+ 0

Indiv Defensive Player Points
(apply to all players, including offensive players and kickers)
Solo Tackle 1
Asst Tackle 0.5
Tackle for loss 2
QB hit 1
Pass defensed 1
Sack 1 (half sack=0.5)
Interception 3
Fumble forced 2
Fumble recovery 2
TD 6 (all TDs, whether on offense, defense, or special teams)
Safety 3
Blocked kick (FG, XP, punt) 2

Unlisted players
During the draft, any player may be drafted, regardless of whether or not the player is listed at the hosting game site. Once the draft is completed, unlisted players may not be added to any roster. This applies for any post-draft waiver processing as well.

In the event that a drafted player is not listed after the draft has completed, a placeholder player will be assigned to the drafting team, to be replaced by the drafted player as soon as he is available.

Position eligibility
Except as defined below, a players position eligibility will be that assigned by the league hosting site.

If a player is listed at one position when drafted and that position is subsequently changed by the hosting site, the manager drafting that player may elect to retain the original position. In this event, that player will keep the drafted position eligibility until he is dropped or traded, at which time the eligibility will revert to the hosting systems default position.

Priority Claiming
All free agents (any players not on a current roster) are subject to a weekly claiming process at noon on Wednesday, using a blind bidding process. Each team will be allocated a budget for the regular season of $100, with a minimum bid of $1. Ties will be broken in favor of the current standings (with applicable tiebreakers), worst-to-first. For 2012, blind bidding will use the non-conditional setup at MFL.

Starting at 3:00pm on each Wednesday, all free agents may be picked up by any team "first come, first served" Dropped players will not be subject to a one day waiver period.

Immediately following the draft, undrafted players will be subject to a priority claiming process (blind bidding), with tiebreaking priorities equal to the reverse of the draft selection order (i.e, the order in which team selected their draft sequence.)

Starting five minutes prior to the scheduled start of each NFL game, no player in that game may be dropped, regardless of whether the player is an active or bench player.

Schedule
13 week round robin
Doubleheaders all weeks 1-13 (play each team twice)
Single elimination playoffs, weeks 14-16

Trades and trade deadline
During the draft, trades may include draft picks. Trades will normally be approved immediately by the Commissioner, assuming they are reasonably balanced. If league managers believe an announced trade is unbalanced, they should protest the trade ASAP.

After the draft, trades will be subject to a review period. For the first 24 hours following a trade, managers may protest a trade by posting a message at the RotoGuru forum, or by sending an email to the Commissioner. If at least 3 managers protest a trade within 24 hours of its announcement, then all managers will be polled within the next 24 hours. If seven or more managers vote to veto a trade, then it will not be approved. If a proposed trade is announced less than 24 hours before the earliest freeze for any player involved, then the entire trade will not be processed until the following week.

If a trade does not receive at least 3 protests, then it will be effective 24 hours after it is announced. If a trade receives at least 3 protests but the protests are not upheld in a full league vote, then the trade will be processed 48 hours after it is announced.

The trade deadline is the weekend following the final week with byes.

Stat corrections
Official stat corrections will be automatically applied. This typically happens on Thursday morning. In the playoffs, this can lead to an issue if a team is suddenly “back in the game”, but that team was unable to make roster moves the prior day. If a stat correction changes a playoff matchup at the last minute, then any impacted team will be given the opportunity to make a last minute roster move, if needed. The Commissioner will attempt to ensure that this provision is enabled as fairly as possible under the circumstances.

During the playoffs, once the first game of the week has started, no stat corrections will be allowed thereafter.

Playoffs
8 teams, single elimination
The 8 teams will be those with the top 6 W/L records plus the two other teams with the most points
The top four seeds will be based on W/L record (including applicable tiebreakers)
Seeds 5-8 will be based on total points for the other four playoff teams
Teams with equivalent W/L records are ranked based on total points first, then head-to-head record.
Bracket is fixed (no reseeding after each round)

Blind bidding will continue throughout the playoffs. At the beginning of the playoffs, the top seeded team will receive an additional blind bidding allocation of $16, the second seed will receive $14, … with the 8th seed receiving $2. These allocations will be added to any balances remaining from the regular season. Any blind bidding ties during the playoffs will be awarded in favor of the better seeded team.

If a playoff game ends in a tie score, the team with the better seed shall advance.

There will be no restriction on player add/drop transactions for teams still active in the championship playoffs. Teams which are not still active in the Championship playoffs may not make any transactions - adds or drops - even if they are still competing in the Consolation bracket.

 
3Bonka
      Sustainer
      ID: 019742310
      Sun, Aug 26, 2012, 00:22 		I still have to decide on who I'm taking, but I'll toss him in a queue before I head to bed. Only problem is the 1st pick won't go off with the queue set up unless the clock is running. If you set the clock to 24 hours or something temporarily, it should work, then just turn the clock back off. Otherwise I won't manually pick until a few hours later and I'd rather get the draft moving if the rest of the managers want to pick as well.
 
4loki
      SuperDude
      ID: 4211201420
      Sun, Aug 26, 2012, 12:24 		Crazy 88s-I saw your offer after we made our picks. I sent an email reply, but it did not send due to email problems on vacation. Do not want you to think I was ignoring you.
 
5TD
      Leader
      ID: 036331011
      Sun, Aug 26, 2012, 12:28 		Crazy 88s - I saw your offer before making my pick and decided not to make the trade.
 
6wiggs
      Leader
      ID: 04991311
      Sun, Aug 26, 2012, 12:30 		Dam- why didnt you send me a trade offer, i was actually looking to move my spot
 
7The Beezer
      Dude
      ID: 191202817
      Sun, Aug 26, 2012, 12:43 		No worries guys. It was worth a shot. Wiggs, the player I wanted was no longer available when your pick came up.
 
8wiggs
      ID: 1768158
      Sun, Aug 26, 2012, 12:49 		Oh fair enough
 
9holt
      Donor
      ID: 308491916
      Sun, Aug 26, 2012, 14:32 		fyi - just got home - looking over my pick
 
12SwinganaMiss
      ID: 771116
      Mon, Aug 27, 2012, 04:42 		Is there a way to add in FAAB $$ to trade offers?
 
14Bonka
      Sustainer
      ID: 019742310
      Mon, Aug 27, 2012, 09:25 		Blind bid trading has to be turned on in the trades setup.
 
16Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Aug 27, 2012, 09:38 		[12,14] done
 
19Bonka
      Sustainer
      ID: 019742310
      Mon, Aug 27, 2012, 10:14 		I think Guru may have been too busy updating all the rationales and didn't notice he was up to pick.
 
20Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Aug 27, 2012, 10:15 		Nope, I noticed. Just needed some time to ponder.
 
21Bonka
      Sustainer
      ID: 019742310
      Mon, Aug 27, 2012, 10:17 		Figured it was one or the other :)
 
24Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Aug 27, 2012, 15:24 		I'm heading out momentarily, and won't be back until about 9pm. Queues have been set up for 5.14/6.01 - but I won't be available for any other administrative duties.
 
26swinganamiss
      ID: 386322513
      Mon, Aug 27, 2012, 16:25 		been in meetings all afternoon. will do something soon. sorry.
 
32Bonka
      Sustainer
      ID: 019742310
      Mon, Aug 27, 2012, 20:55 		We need a better system for rationales. Everything gets thrown in here then Guru has to go and move everything. Could probably make a google doc or something and people can update as they go.
 
36Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Aug 27, 2012, 21:34 		[33] Your 5th round pick was 5.13. Your 3rd round pick was 3.02. The Banzai order in round three puts it out of synch with the 5th round, so when you made your 5th rounder, your 3rd round rationale was considerably overdue.
 
41loki
      SuperDude
      ID: 4211201420
      Mon, Aug 27, 2012, 23:07 		I am traveling back from Virginia tomorrow and there could be delays on my picks. I will do my best with my IPad.
 
42Bonka
      Sustainer
      ID: 019742310
      Tue, Aug 28, 2012, 02:43 		I really thought I'd be able to get my picks in once youngroman logged in about the time he did, as expected. Problem is, russelldl's queue ran out. I usually can't set queues on a turn like this when I can draft more than 2 player positions. It's easy in the middle of rounds but not here. My cell phone should wake me up to pick (hopefully not too early) and won't hold things up. That's the plan anyways.
 
46 swinganamiss
      ID: 386322513
      Tue, Aug 28, 2012, 10:19 		guru, please select jermichael finley for me at 6.11. i had a trade offer floating out there so i was waiting, and now my dp is unavailable. Thanks!
 
47Bonka
      Sustainer
      ID: 019742310
      Tue, Aug 28, 2012, 11:08 		But I wanted Finley at my next pick. Please select another TE. Thanks!
 
48loki
      ID: 363291112
      Tue, Aug 28, 2012, 12:28 		Swinganamiss-I did not ignore your trade, but I am driving back from VA, and could not respond until just a little while ago. I would have declined it, but thanks for the offer.
 
54Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Aug 28, 2012, 16:32 		We are now working on 6th round rationales. Here is a list of rationales that are missing for the first 4 rounds.

Most of you are doing a good job of staying relatively current. Thanks.

Jzapps - let's get started!
Gurudan - a little more effort, please.

Jzapps
1.02 Arian Foster
2.13 Roddy White
3.13 Antonio Gates
4.13 Peyton Hillis

Holt
3.03 Greg Jennings
4.03 Dez Bryant

TD
3.07 Doug Martin
4.07 Dwayne Bowe

Frick
3.08 Percy Harvin
4.08 Matt RYan

Loki
4.06 DeSean Jackson

russelldl
4.09 Mike Wallace

Swinganamiss
4.11 Vincent Jackson


 
70Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Aug 29, 2012, 10:43 		We're moving at an acceptable pace, completing just under 3 rounds per day. 58 of the 123 picks have been made via queues, just under half. Thanks to all for staying on top of things. In know that some of you have circumstances that make it a challenge.

At this pace, we'll finish on Sunday or Monday. Wouldn't surprise me if the pace quickens in the later rounds, however. We're about a half-day ahead of last year's pace through 89 rounds, and if we continue to track last year's pace for rounds 10-24, we'll finish on Saturday.
 
72Bonka
      Sustainer
      ID: 019742310
      Wed, Aug 29, 2012, 10:59 		We'll definitely speed up in the later rounds, more queues will be used. I'd be really surprised if that didn't happen.
 
78Bonka
      Sustainer
      ID: 019742310
      Wed, Aug 29, 2012, 19:30 		The speed today has been horrendous. We haven't even gotten through 1.5 rounds yet. Come on.
 
82Bonka
      Sustainer
      ID: 019742310
      Wed, Aug 29, 2012, 20:24 		Man, really? Cushing 1 spot before me, sigh.
 
85The Beezer
      Dude
      ID: 191202817
      Wed, Aug 29, 2012, 22:32 		OK, that got a laugh Swing. :)
 
87holt
      Donor
      ID: 308491916
      Thu, Aug 30, 2012, 00:27 		I sure wish I was smart enough to figure out how to draft from my draft list. tired of screwing with it.
 
88Bonka
      Sustainer
      ID: 019742310
      Thu, Aug 30, 2012, 01:32 		Yeah don't mess with that thing holt. It's only worth using to set up a draft list before the draft starts and you tell the computer to draft for you based off that.
 
89holt
      Donor
      ID: 308491916
      Thu, Aug 30, 2012, 03:21 		ahh I see. thanks.
 
91loki
      SuperDude
      ID: 4211201420
      Thu, Aug 30, 2012, 09:12 		You would think that it would be easy for MFL to put a use/don't use button and turn Draft List into a useful function rather than one that is easy to screw up.
 
92Bonka
      Sustainer
      ID: 019742310
      Thu, Aug 30, 2012, 09:41 		Yeah, all it is currently, without setting a few things as the commish for individual owners, is a list that you can set up to use as a guide for setting your queues since you can view that list rather than alphabetical or ADP.
 
94Bonka
      Sustainer
      ID: 019742310
      Thu, Aug 30, 2012, 09:48 		I think we need to pick up the pace. AAA#2 is killing us after they were behind to start. We shouldn't have this many people averaging almost an hour or more per pick. We're not going super slow, but yesterday was really bad for the amount of picks we got in. Need to be doing 3+ rounds a day.
 
97wiggs
      Leader
      ID: 04991311
      Thu, Aug 30, 2012, 13:27 		Bonka-

I dont think its fair to say people shouldnt have an average pick of an hour. This system does not take into account the overnight time. For example I am averaging 51 minutes a pick. That is 9 picks using no clock 1 pick using 30 minutes, 1 pick using 2 hours and 1 pick (over night) using 8+. I leave a queue every round, but I work a 10 hour shift from 10 pm til 8 am with some mandatory OT that i will not know about until it is time to leave. When i left for work i was 16 picks away. I set my queue with a bunch of guys 1 pick went fine, but the time it got to my next pick it was emptied. I am sure the same thing is happening with other people. We are moving at a pretty good pace and will finish in plenty of time.
 
98TD
      Leader
      ID: 036331011
      Thu, Aug 30, 2012, 13:44 		97 - I agree. We are not in a race with other drafts.
 
99Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Aug 30, 2012, 14:15 		I'm content with our pace.
 
101Bonka
      Sustainer
      ID: 019742310
      Thu, Aug 30, 2012, 15:58 		No, but I'm sure people would like to get done earlier, considering there's a holiday weekend coming up. We should never not get through at least 3 rounds in a day, which we didn't yesterday. AAA2 will be done before the weekend, leaving them more available for whatever plans they have.

We're not slow, but we can be faster is all.
 
112russelldl
      ID: 206493120
      Thu, Aug 30, 2012, 19:12 		Sorry for my delays. I've had a busy work week because of the long weekend coming up. Also, I've had to do most of the stuff from my phone which I haven't done before. I've got a four day weekend from here on out so I should have queues set from now on.
Rationales are also coming. Sorry.
 
114loki
      SuperDude
      ID: 4211201420
      Thu, Aug 30, 2012, 19:30 		I am certain that I am a very small minority and quite possibly alone, but I think that the draft is moving along much too quickly. I would have preferred to have started a few days earlier and gone at a slower rate.
 
116Frick
      ID: 157331422
      Thu, Aug 30, 2012, 21:21 		I left work with the thought my next pick was 11 away I would be good to go until tomorrow morning. I checked in just now and saw that I was up next for the following round. There was still one guy in my queue from last time, so I just rolled it forward.

Can we designate pickers? I'm going to have limited internet access for the weekend, I'm going to set a large queue for each round, but if they empty or I don't do something correctly, can I designate someone to pick for me or will it just wait until I time out?
 
117Bonka
      Sustainer
      ID: 019742310
      Thu, Aug 30, 2012, 21:32 		You can have the commish pick for you or give someone your login info.
 
118TB
      ID: 45735270
      Thu, Aug 30, 2012, 22:05 		I set a queue for my next two picks, but I am checking out of my hotel at 1030 am tomorrow and then on the road until about midnight central time. I'll check in when I can, but there might be some delays on my part.
 
127loki
      ID: 363291112
      Fri, Aug 31, 2012, 12:43 		Going out for most of the day. Queues set for 18.09 and 19.06.
 
128Frick
      ID: 14082314
      Fri, Aug 31, 2012, 14:20 		I have queues that will hopefully last through round 22. I'll hopefully have internet access again tomorrow morning or is there someone I can text or e-mail my picks?
 
129Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Fri, Aug 31, 2012, 14:40 		I'll be around on Saturday. You can email picks to me, if needed.
 
130loki
      SuperDude
      ID: 4211201420
      Fri, Aug 31, 2012, 15:57 		Queue for 20.06 should hopefully last for the day.
 
135Bonka
      Sustainer
      ID: 019742310
      Fri, Aug 31, 2012, 19:28 		So Graham finally picked then left or is taking a ridiculously long time to make his 2nd pick? Ok. At least we're full of queues coming up. Should finish up tomorrow by the looks of it.
 
136holt
      Donor
      ID: 308491916
      Fri, Aug 31, 2012, 19:57 		kind of strange. that's for sure. was kind of hoping to wrap this up today.
 
146 gurudan
      ID: 12211321
      Sat, Sep 01, 2012, 09:05 		i sent at least 1st 9 rounds where they go ?
 
147 gurudan
      ID: 12211321
      Sat, Sep 01, 2012, 09:08 		also they were sent in 2 segments 1st 5 rounds and 2nd for with very detaled rationale on rd. 8 i'll redo all of them
 
148 gurudan
      ID: 12211321
      Sat, Sep 01, 2012, 09:26 		RD 1 AARON RODGERS QB GREEN BAY high scorer in 2011 in all fantasy formats.
RD 2 FRED JACKSON RB BUFFALO 1 reason i'm here this year. led my AAA team last year even tho he missed time. also the reason i lost in playoffs.
RD 3 WILLIS MAGAHEE RB DENVER pretty sure he has starting job in denver and RB pool is starting to thin. he had 1100 yds last year
RD 4 ANTONIO BROWN WR PITTSBURGH as a steeler fan i know he's no. 1 not mike wallace. can only get better
RD 5 ERIC DECKER WR DENVER i'm gambling on him being Peyton go to at about 10 targets a week
 
149 gurudan
      ID: 12211321
      Sat, Sep 01, 2012, 09:54 		RD 6 BRANDON PETTIGREW TE DETROIT felt TE was most pressing need for this pick. my Q listed finley at top, but he went pick before. with a healthy PETTIGREW there should be plenty of upside. high powered offense.
RD7 DEANGELO WILLIAMS RB CAROLINA every year the prediction is less carries for DA and more for stewart. i predict the opposite. i hadn't penciled in an RB on this rd, but couldn't pass him up. stewart's injured also
RD 8 DAVID AKERS K SAN FRAN i noticed the trend in the league was switching toward DEF, but this guy outscored all DEF PLAYERS in 2011. i believe he's a steal
 
150Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sat, Sep 01, 2012, 10:26 		gurudan - I had already copied them over to the rationale thread. Once I've done that, I delete them here. There was no need to repost.
 
151Bonka
      Sustainer
      ID: 019742310
      Sat, Sep 01, 2012, 11:41 		One of these is not like the rest. /facepalm
 
152SwinganaMiss
      ID: 771116
      Sat, Sep 01, 2012, 12:37 		18.11 Daniel Thomas, RB MIA
Did I miss the memo? Is Reggie Bush, after one healthy season, all of the sudden a durable back? I had Bush last season and was waiting for something bad to happen. I doubt he can make it through another season unscathed, thus I am taking his backup here. Thomas can do something (worthy of 18th Rd) with the starting job, or even take a bigger share of early down work with Bush healthy. Maybe.

19.04 TJ Ward, DB, CLE
I wanted a safety capable of big numbers. I know that Ward did it a couple of years ago, so hopefully he can do it again this year. Hoping he rebounds well from an injury-plagued season last year. I had also considered Arenas at this spot. I just couldn't pull the trigger w/o knowing how much he'll play on D.
 
153 gurudan
      ID: 12211321
      Sat, Sep 01, 2012, 13:50 		since i now don't need to repost, i'll start where i think i haven't posted.

RD 14 COBY FLEENER TE INDY most fantasy experts predict big things for him. i figured if predictions come true, he's a nice option at WR/TE.
rd 15 JEROME SIMPSON WR/CONVICT MINN. if he's not in solitaire he could contribute by week 9. how do you not love guy who does sommersaults into the endzone.
RD 16 CHRISTIAN PONDER QB MINN. of the remaining QB'S He has the best matchup in Aaron Rodgers bye week.
RD 17 DWIGHT FREENEY in my Q AND PRAY THAT HE PLAYS
RD 18 LAMICHAEL JAMES RB SAN FRAN just gambling that he can make some plays on 3rd down. i didn't even consider him until he showed probable week 1
 
154The Beezer
      Dude
      ID: 191202817
      Sat, Sep 01, 2012, 14:26 		Anybody heard from holt? This isn't like him.
 
155The Beezer
      Dude
      ID: 191202817
      Sat, Sep 01, 2012, 14:26 		Anybody heard from holt? This isn't like him.
 
156TB
      ID: 451028614
      Sat, Sep 01, 2012, 15:04 		15.13 Doug Baldwin, SEA, WR
I needed a 4th WR and one that didn't have a week 8 bye. He is coming off a hamstring injury, but should be healthy before I need to insert him into the line-up. He had just under 800 yards and 4 TD's last year. I am curious what he can do with a new QB who seems like he can sling it all over the field. Speaking of which, I considered Wilson with 14.02 and he would have been on my short list for this pick.

16.02 Taiwan Jones, OAK, RB
I am surprised the McFadden owner hasn't snagged this handcuff yet as McFadden has yet to play a full 16 games in any season. As a Raider fan, I hope he does this year and that this was a mostly wasted pick. Then again, if the Raiders are smart they will spell McFadden a bit more and try to keep him healthy. Jones has a lot of talent and speed. If he can break one around the corner and get into the open field, he can score from anywhere.

17.13 Santana Moss, WAS, WR
In 2010 Santana was an 1100 yard, 6 TD receiver. I've had him on multiple teams over the last 9 years and think he still has something left in the tank. With better QB play and the addition of additional offensive weapons, there is a good chance he can contribute quite a bit this year. I drafted him as a bye week filler/injury replacement player and feel good about this pick.

18.02 Tony Moeaki, KCC, TE
In his rookie season he put up 550 yards and 3 TDs (targetted 73 times out of 450 attempts by Cassel). I thought he was going to have a break-out season last year, but then he was injured and lost for the year. I have a stud TE that I can start weekly, but I think this was a good spot to gamble on a player coming back big from an injury.
 
157holt
      Donor
      ID: 308491916
      Sat, Sep 01, 2012, 15:18 		Sorry everyone. Horrible excuse but our Labor Day celebrations began last night and I passed out holding my laptop. I tried to get my queue set before losing consciousness and obviously failed.
 
158holt
      Donor
      ID: 308491916
      Sat, Sep 01, 2012, 15:23 		btw - there isn't any way for me to make my rd 21 pick on MFL.
 
159Bonka
      Sustainer
      ID: 019742310
      Sat, Sep 01, 2012, 15:29 		Guru has to make the pick for you. Just post who you want here so it's timestamped in case someone else takes him.
 
160 gurudan
      ID: 12211321
      Sat, Sep 01, 2012, 16:18 		RD 19 JON BALDWIN WR KC another breakout guy predicted by fantasy guru. not many viable WR'S at this point in my opinion.
RD 20 KEVIN BURNETT LB MIAMI i need a LB to replace Angerer
RD 21 YERIMIAH BELL S JETS always lots of tackles kinda surprised to get him this late.
RD 22 MICHAEL JOHNSON DE CINCY fills my last DL spot
RD 23 GRAHAM HARRELL QB GREEN BAY handcuffs Rodgers
RD 24 Q IS SET FOR BACKUP AT 3 POSITIONS
 
161 gurudan
      ID: 12211321
      Sat, Sep 01, 2012, 16:21 		just wondering if others in this league are going to play in the survival and nfl pools in the owners menu? we did it last year in AAA.
 
162holt
      Donor
      ID: 308491916
      Sat, Sep 01, 2012, 16:23 		I'll take S Danieal Manning for that missed 21 rd pick. Emailing Guru.
 
163Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sat, Sep 01, 2012, 16:30 		gurudan - you are still missing 9-13. They were never posted.
 
164SwinganaMiss
      ID: 771116
      Sat, Sep 01, 2012, 16:41 		20.11 Lance Briggs, LB, CHI
I still don't have my IDP flex filled in. I guess Briggs will do. He seems to be the highest remaining LB on my list. He doesn't play the middle, which I don't like so much, but should get opportunities. He was a top 25 LB last season and should be able to duplicate it again this season.

21.04 Garrett Hartley, PK, NOS
I was barely coherent enough to make this pick, so I just went with a kicker. Couldn't decide what else I needed, so I grabbed Hartley. Now that he has won the job, I figured he'd be highly sought after. Normally I wouldn't pick a Kicker this "early", but it was a means to an end--my bed.
 
165holt
      Donor
      ID: 308491916
      Sat, Sep 01, 2012, 17:19 		11.12 Curtis Lofton, LB, NO

Lofton will be ready for week 1. He's a top 10 LB and I'm a Sooners fan so this was an easy pick. He's with the Saints now and I'm not sure what impact that will have but I think he'll still be top 10 caliber. 87 solo and 60 assists last season. That's a lot of tackling.

12.03 Lance Moore, WR, NO

Thought he was a pretty good reserve WR this late in the draft. With Meacham gone to the Chargers I think Moore is due for some more targets. He had a good off-season and has always been good for some huge games here and there. We'll see what happens. I kind of considered Amendola as another WR4 possibility but thought he might drop a little lower (graham cr. took him at 13.02). An IDP wouldn't have been a bad way to go here but I really didn't like how thin the ranks of draftable WR's was getting.
 
166The Beezer
      Dude
      ID: 191202817
      Sat, Sep 01, 2012, 17:24 		20.10 Curtis Brinkley, RB, SD

There's a 1% chance that he will be the primary ball carrier against Oakland and do well in the role. The Chargers have shown that they will happily let someone else vulture TDs from Matthews. Ronnie Brown is just not the guy, and last year proved that in Philly.

Most likely Brinkley doesn't last until week 2.
 
167The Beezer
      Dude
      ID: 191202817
      Sat, Sep 01, 2012, 17:26 		21.05 Michael Floyd, WR, ARI

With Skelton being named the starter, what's to prevent Floyd from being the Torrey Smith of 2012? He's talented, he's got Larry Fitzgerald opposite him to worry the defense, and they're going to have to throw a ton. Sounds like the perfect pick in round 21 to me!
 
168wiggs
      Leader
      ID: 04991311
      Sat, Sep 01, 2012, 17:38 		12.05 Jerrod Mayo

I can see Mayo making 100 tackles this season. A strong IDP can change a teams results more then most people thing.

13.10 Randy Moss

You never know which Moss will show up this year, but everything i have seen says he returned in good shape. If Crabtree is sucking up double teams and Davis is controlling the middle Moss might see some single coverage for the long ball.

14.05 JJ Watt

Needed a DL player and i have seen good things from Watt last season. Hoping he can get a few tackles and a sack a game.

15.10 Andy Daulton

Needed a back up and the picking got slim quick. I like Dalton because someone needs to throw AJ all those TD passes.

16.05 Ndamukong Suh

See JJ Watt- only with bigger upside

17.10 Darrell Revis

I wanted to get a shut down corner with an upside for an int return here or there. Should also deflect some passed.

18.05 Maurice Clayborn

I expect this guy to be a stud this season. He should have some action as a rookie, maybe a pick 6. HE is also a homer pick.

19.10 Aldon Smith

Quality LB playing opposite the best LB in the game. Should get some single blocking and take advantage of that.

20.05 Steven Gostkowski

Earlier then I usually take a kicker, but if you have a shot at the kicking from NE this late you have to grab him.

21.10 Ronnie Brown

Just a handcuff for Ryan Matthews if needed.

22.05 Golden Tate

Big upside- back up WR

 
169holt
      Donor
      ID: 308491916
      Sat, Sep 01, 2012, 17:42 		13.12 Jacob Tamme, TE, DEN

Honestly I was in a hurry to leave for lunch and just made a snap decision. IDP's had gotten to a point where I figured it didn't matter if I took one now or a few rounds later. My starting TE is F Davis and he's no sure thing. I had Tamme on my squad in 2010 when D Clark went down and Manning targeted him 93 times in 10 games. He hasn't done much in the preseason and he has some competition and may split snaps so this may turn out to be a stinker.

14.03 Sam Bradford, QB, StL

As a Sooners fan and a Rams Fan I've been a frequent fantasy owner of Bradford. Maybe this will be the year. Heaven forbid that Cam Newton gets hurt this year but you've got to have a QB2 and I thought Bradford was the most talented of the QB's left on the board. He'll have a better set of receivers to work with this season, and hopefully he gets some more protection. An improved defense will help things too.
 
170holt
      Donor
      ID: 308491916
      Sat, Sep 01, 2012, 17:58 		15.12 Chris Long, DE, StL

Outside of 2, maybe 4 guys, DL are a dime a dozen.Maybe I should have waited longer to take my 2nd DE. Oh well. Long had 13.5 sacks last year but like most DL he doesn't get many tackles otherwise. What I hate is those 1 point games from a DE. They're going to happen but you try to minimize it. Long scored 6 or more points in 11 out of 16 games last year, and didn't have any zero point games. Worth a shot. As always though, I'll be keeping my eye on the FA's. I grabbed Calais Campbell off the FA list last year. Something always turns up.
 
171holt
      Donor
      ID: 308491916
      Sat, Sep 01, 2012, 18:30 		16.03 Patrick Chung, S, NE

16th rd is here and I still have no DB's. We have to start two of them so it dawns on me that I should probably grab one here. Chung has a good chance to be a top 10 DB this season and almost definitely a top 20 if he remains on the field.

17.12 Chris Rainey, RB, PIT
This might turn out to be a steal here in the 17th. He's small but explosive - very similar to D Sproles. With the Steelers RB situation this year, who knows what could happen? He's an excellent pass target and super return man (had TD punt returns of 78 and 90 yards called back on penalties in the last preseason game, had a 57 yd reception for TD in his 1st preseason game, also had a 41 yd TD rush in game 3). I believe the Steelers will find a way to get this guy on the field. He's probably the best in the open field on their team.
 
172Bonka
      Sustainer
      ID: 019742310
      Sat, Sep 01, 2012, 18:38 		20.14 LaRon Landry, S, NYJ

I figured I'd wrap up my IDP starters with this pick and grab a DB. Got my top guy in Landry, so I'm pleased with that but it's not a huge deal because he likely will not put up the numbers he did 2 years ago in this Jets defense. But the individual potential is there, so I'll take a shot on him.

21.01 Bernard Pierce, RB, BAL

This guy is likely going to just eat a roster spot all year for nothing, but I wanted to grab him just in case Rice got hurt. He's not a high priority handcuff since I'm not even sure if he'll hold the #2 spot and would probably split carries, but better to have something than nothing if Rice does go down. The rest of the remaining RBs are in the same situation of needing an injury or terrible play, so just makes sense to handcuff Rice here. I probably would have taken Hardesty in this spot if he was available and tried grabbing Pierce the following round.
 
173holt
      Donor
      ID: 308491916
      Sat, Sep 01, 2012, 18:38 		18.03 Alfred Morris, RB, WAS

Just building some RB possibilities. Who knows if any fantasy relevant RB's will come out of Washington this season. Morris was a healthy scratch in the last game so this may mean he's going to start in week 1. Worth an 18th rd pick.

19.12 Brian Quick, WR, StL

Will probably be waiver fodder if he doesn't do something for me real early in the season. He's a big receiver (6'3 220) and has a lot of upside. Just need him to do something early in the season.
 
174 gurudan
      ID: 12211321
      Sat, Sep 01, 2012, 20:25 		RD9 DARIUS HEYWOOD BEY WR OAKLAND seeking WR'S that each rd. seem to be getting thinner. will surely start but is injury prone
RD 10 DEMARCUS WARE LB COWBOYS my def begins. a solid LB
RD 11 CLAY MATTHEWS LB GREEN BAY still there. one of the best in game but doesn't score as many fantasy points as he should. we'll see.
RD 12 PAT ANGERER LB INDY my 1st stumble. missed his injury report so he'll sit the bench. another high scorer when healthy
RD 13 ED REED S RAVENS BIG PLAY STUD as good as it gets but like so many great def players, teams stay away and costs managers fantasy points. i'll take my chances.
RD 14 CODY FLEENER TE INDY GREAT PREDICTIONS should at least share time and supposedly has great chemistry with Luck. he may well end up my starter at WR/TE
 
175holt
      Donor
      ID: 308491916
      Sat, Sep 01, 2012, 20:37 		20.03 Akeem Dent, LB, ATL

Dent will be the starting MLB for the Falcons. We don't know what kind of numbers he'll put up. If he's good then I have him on my team. If he's bad then I'll quickly make an exchange.

21.12 Danieal Manning, S, HOU

Manning has been one of the best KO returners in recent years. If he doesn't return kicks this year then I might have to look for other options. If he does do some returning(and it looks like they are leaning that way) then this is a pretty good pick.

22.03 Alex Green, RB, GB

He may end up with starting job in GB at some point. Will he be on my squad when that happens? That is the question. Kind of surprised he is left sitting here in rd 22.

23.12 Dan Bailey, K, DAL
I decided to draft a kicker after all. Bailey is a kicker.

24.03 James Harrison, LB, PIT
Sounds like he'll be ready for week 1 (but probably not at full strength). Harrison missed some games last year so his stats were down but he ranked 11 overall in points per game for LB in this league (9.8 per game).
 
176Frick
      ID: 14082314
      Sat, Sep 01, 2012, 21:34 		Sorry, I'm so behind.

8.08 Malcom Floyd, SDC, WR
With the departure of Vincent Jackson hopefully Floyd gets some more targets, but a healthy Gates could get some additional targets. Rivers has been a tier 2 QB in the past and their system hasn't changed, someone has to get the yards, hopefully Floyd gets enough to justify this pick.

11.07 Brent Celek, TE, Phi
TEs were going fast and often this year. The massive years by Gronk and Graham have raised the profile, we will see if the continuing explosion in passing makes TEs worth it. I think it will, the question becomes do a few elite TEs produce enough to warrant a 1st or 2nd round pick.

12.08 Eric Berry, DB, KC

He produces a ton of tackles, I would have preferred a DB who also has a lot of returns, but they have gone earlier. At least the ones that have a solid KR/PR role, KR/PR roles are often based on the other needs and who is active on a Sunday. I'll take the more stable production of Berry.

13.07 D.J. Smith, LB, GB

We can start 3 LB, I've taken my LB3 earlier than most, hopefully it results in a solid IDP group that gives me production week in and out.

14.08 Pierre Thomas, RB, NO
The NO RB situation is a mess. I have Ingram in a keeper league he is frustrating to say the least. Getting a RB who has a chance at getting a decent number of touches in the 14th round? I'm happy with that. In an offense as explosive as NO's? I'll very happily take that.

15.07 Russell Wilson, QB, Sea

I watched Wilson at Wisconsin and was very impressed. As someone said in the G24 thread, if Wilson was a a few inches taller, he might have been taken ahead of RGIII and been in discussions for #1 overall with Luck. He has more value in dynasty leagues than this format, but hopefully he gives me some insurance in case of injury in my other QBs.

16.08 Haloti Ngata, DL, Bal
Finding a DL who produces stats is tough. I probably would have gotten similar production if I had just gone with a WW pick-up after the draft. DL might have less value than PKs in this league.

17.07 Kyle Rudolph, TE, Min

A back-up TE who has potential to produce. Harvin has a history of missing games, which could lead to more targets for Rudolph. With Celek's history of injuries this seems like a prudent pick.

18.08 Eric Weddle, DB, SD

Weddle will hopefully get a ton of tackles. I should just have copied my rationale from Berry as the logic is the same.


19.07 Matt Shaughnessy, DL, Oak

Another DL, again see the rationale above.
 
177The Beezer
      Dude
      ID: 191202817
      Sat, Sep 01, 2012, 21:47 		22.10 Dexter McCluster, WR, KC

Total shot in the dark based on how he has been used in the preseason. No question in his ability to make big plays, it's whether he will get used. If the preseason was just an experiment and his usage is like past seasons, he will not be on my roster for long.
 
178The Beezer
      Dude
      ID: 191202817
      Sat, Sep 01, 2012, 21:47 		23.05 Shayne Graham, PK, HOU

Houston's offense can put up some points and he has a later bye than a lot of guys. That's good enough for me.
 
179The Beezer
      Dude
      ID: 191202817
      Sat, Sep 01, 2012, 21:48 		24.10 DeAngelo Hall, DB, WAS

I still needed a flex IDP so I grabbed Hall as the top guy left on my board at DB or LB. He's a playmaker yet inconsistent so I might get tired of that pretty quick. Fortunately, we have a waiver wire so that's not an issue.
 
180SwinganaMiss
      ID: 21154916
      Sat, Sep 01, 2012, 21:48 		22.11 James Jones, WR, GB
Lots of weapons in GB. Jones may or may not make a splash. He had 600+ yards and 7 TDs last year. Jennings was recently injured, Driver is just plain old, and Cobb is more of a threat as a returner. If Jones can get some time on the field, he can make plays. Something on Rotoworld suggested he could even be traded to the Dolphins. Not sure if that would be a good thing or a bad thing.

23.04 Janoris Jenkins, DB, STL
Last round my queue actually had Dawan Landry at the top and Jones second. Maybe I lucked out that Landry was taken, as I like everything I read about Jenkins. He should start at CB. He has a reasonable chance to get PR and/or KR duties too. Not sure if it happens, but if it did, then he can be this year's Patrick Peterson. Even if not, he could stick on the team.

24.11 Vick Ballard, RB, IND
Happy to throw one more RB dart. Who knows how much Ballard plays this season. Maybe he starts at some point, or maybe he's buried on the depth chart. For the chance he starts, I will take him here over a backup TE, a 4th LB, or a 3rd DE.
 
181Bonka
      Sustainer
      ID: 019742310
      Sat, Sep 01, 2012, 22:01 		22.14 Justin Tucker, K, BAL

I decided to take my kicker here since no RBs/WRs stood out that I really needed to grab. I'll wait until the very last pick in the draft to get one of those. Tucker won the job over Cundiff on a team that generally is a good situation for kicker scoring.

23.01 Erin Henderson, LB, MIN

Just taking a shot on one of the remaining LBs who could put up good numbers as a 3 down backer. He'll have to do pretty well to keep his spot in the first week or two.

24.14 Mike Tolbert, RB, CAR

Last year I grabbed Patrick Peterson in this round, and well...that's pretty much one of the best 24th round picks in this league ever, if not the best. While I'd love to repeat that, it's not going to happen. Tolbert isn't going to do a whole lot unless JStew or DWill get hurt. Just a lottery ticket here.
 
182Bonka
      Sustainer
      ID: 019742310
      Sat, Sep 01, 2012, 22:26 		The guys playing me week 1 have a pretty good advantage. No Britt and probably no Witten or Richardson either. I'll be lucky if I can split my games.
 
183TB
      ID: 451028614
      Sat, Sep 01, 2012, 22:38 		21.13 Brandon Weeden, CLE, QB
I really botched-up getting a back-up QB, especially because I knew how everyone drafts back-ups early. 9 bench spots is actually ridiculous for a league that only starts 15 players. I've seen players drafted that won't be drafted in keeper leagues with smaller benches. We really need to crank up the starters by another 3 or drop 4 bench spots. So anyway, way back at 12.02, I thought about drafting Schaub instead of Leshoure. Then in the 14th round I almost pulled the trigger on Wilson, but was hoping he would fall more. That's pretty much been my story with several positions this draft; uncomfortable with taking a player in a certain spot when I see better value elsewhere and then finding myself drafting a much lower talent level at that position rounds later. I really need Romo to stay healthy or I could be in big trouble.

22.02 Dawan Landry, JAC, S
I wanted a third DB for depth/bye week replacement. Landry gets a lot of tackle opportunities and is a solid player. I still need a kicker and just realized I only have two more picks to go. I don't know why I was thinking 3 more picks. I also see that Holt just took Alex Green, which I thought was the pick I had at the top of my queue for this round. That certainly does make my last two picks easier.

23.13 Rod Streater, OAK, WR
This was supposed to be Alex Green, my Benson handcuff. Instead I will take a flier on the undrafted WR who is catching (mostly) everything Palmer throws his way. The Raiders have a lot of speedy, young receivers who all seem to get dinged up. Unless one of my starters get hurt or he earns a starting role and is producing, he shouldn't get much, if any, playing time on my roster.

24.02 Matt Bryant, ATL, PK
This is my kicker. There are many like him, but this one is mine. It is my fantasy team. I must master my kicker position as I must master my roster...
 
184loki
      SuperDude
      ID: 4211201420
      Sat, Sep 01, 2012, 23:25 		20.06-Mason Crosby, PK, GBP-There was no one that I wanted at this point in the draft so it made sense to choose a PK. Gostkowski was higher in my queue, but Wiggs drafted him before me.

21.09-Kevin Boss, TE, Kan-Boss had a bad year after his trade from the NYGs due to a multitude of injuries. He is healthy, on a new team and I think he will regain the form that he showed
with the Giants making him a good pick for TE2.

22.06-Nate Burleson, WR, Det-Burleson is listed after Calvin Johnson on Detroit’s depth chart, and Stafford will have to find someone to pass to when Johnson is unable to escape from double coverage.

23.09-Josh Gordon, WR, Cle-I would have preferred a RB here, but there was not one remaining worth even a 24th round pick. Gordon has sleeper potential.

24.06-Adrian Claybon, DL, Tam-He was the best I could find for DL2.


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185youngroman
      ID: 56523304
      Sun, Sep 02, 2012, 03:40 		21.11 Scott Chandler, TE, BUF
similar to the situation at QB, I also looked for a backup TE a long time ago but there was nobody out there. I waited and waited until I felt a TE was worth to pick. Chandler has potential to put up bigger numbers than Gonzalez, but I don't know if he will show this on the field this season. you can't expect more at this time of the draft. There aren't any sleepers left. these players are now named gambles.

22.04 Jordan Babineaux, DB, TEN
after my last pick I researched the available DBs because I wanted to take my #3 with this pick. as soon as I found Dawan Landry I stopped searching because I had my guy. a few hours later Holt expires and Landry was queued up by someone else. So I had to dig again into the DB pool and search for someone else. I already marked Babineaux a few hours ago but was not sure about him. some depth charts have him only as a #2, others as a #1. so called experts saw him as a good defender worth newly signed 5 million contract. I don't know what to expect here. if he starts and gets a similar number of tackles than last year until he shared time with Chris Hope in the last few games. if he does not start he is waiver wire fodder.

23.11 David Nelson, WR, BUF
because of bye-weeks I would have only 3 available WRs in round 5 and 11. Week 11 is far away, but I need a plan for week 5. I know there are waivers, but with the new blind bid system you don't know how high some hot WRs are valued by others. From todays point of view the old system was more predictable because you only had a maximum of 13 players to go before you are up and there are at least some at other positions so putting a few WRs in you queue got you one. especially when the waiver order is reset the first few weeks.
this is all not the case this year so I'll better take one now and if he does not work I can exchange him against a more targeted receier come week 5.

speaking of Nelson: his yardage may stay around 600yds. but the additional value are the above average TD numbers he puts up, thanks to his size. If he can continue being a red-zone threat he may do fine for me.

24.04 Lawrence Tynes, K, NYG
every year I am thinking about taking a kicker in the last round of the draft or shortly before gameday on Sunday. If an olympic runner would have been available here I would have taken him. this was not possible because:
1) silver medalist Jeff Demps was put on IR by the Patriots
2) 3-time gold medalist Usain Bolt, The Legend, was not available at MFL

so I had to take a kicker. since they are all a dime a dozen I took one on an offense that should score a lot and that also has a late bye-week. this way I can observe the kicker market early on and then take a similar scoring one that already had his bye.
there is hope that there will be a lot of TDs from from Eli to Cruz with an XP from Tynes. this would be an automatic 11pts for my team, no matter how deep the throw was.
 
186Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Sep 02, 2012, 14:21 		Please continue to post your rationales here. I'll copy them over in the next day or so.

Any undrafted player may now be claimed through preseason blind bidding. Bids will be settled at noon on Wednesday (same schedule as regular season), after which free agents will be available FCFS at 3pm on Wednesday.

Please use this time to familiarize yourself with the blind bidding process and layout, even if you have no interest in placing a bid.
 
187loki
      SuperDude
      ID: 4211201420
      Sun, Sep 02, 2012, 21:20 		Are we using conditional or non-conditional blind bids?
Thanks.
 
188Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Sep 02, 2012, 21:32 		non-conditional
 
189Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Sep 03, 2012, 09:52 		Here is the list of rationales that are not yet in. Please post ASAP.

Jzapps
all 24

TD
17.08 Earl THomas
18.07 Royster
19.08 KEndricks
20.07 DarylSmith
21.08 Stewart
22.07 Henery
23.08 Cribbs
24.07 Hali

Loki
18.06 Bobby Wagner
19.09 Hardesty

russelldl
19.06 Pead
20.09 Cassel
21.06 David
22.09 Sanders
23.06 Janikowski
24.09 Arrington

Frick
20.08 Foles
21.07 RInger
22.08 Kaeding
23.07 McKnight
24.08 S Hill

Wiggs
23.10 Starks
24.05 Henderson
 
190loki
      SuperDude
      ID: 4211201420
      Mon, Sep 03, 2012, 14:49 		18.06-Bobby Wagner, LB, Sea-This pick was to add a necessary player to my defense. He seemed to be as good as anyone remaining.

19.09-Montario Hardesty, RB, Cle-This was my 1st mispick of the draft. I had a number of RBs ranked higher, but must have moved him up in my queue by mistake. At least I did it in the 19th round.
 
191wiggs
      Leader
      ID: 04991311
      Mon, Sep 03, 2012, 15:28 		23.10 James Starks

I took starks here hoping he may play at some point this year and if he does it might be a nice bump going into the play offs if I make them. I really didnt need anyone here so I took a flyer on a guy with upside.

24.10 Devery Henderson

Slim Pickings at this point- took a guy that had drew brees throwing to him. hope he can catch a couple td passes.
 
192Letter J
      ID: 47782719
      Mon, Sep 03, 2012, 16:58 		As per judy's directions I re-post this here:

So, I had a little time to play with the system a little bit, and I noted the following:

If you go to trades, and once you select a team to trade with, the rosters will then be displayed and at the bottom of the rostered players is a box which indicates: Blind Bidding Dollars.

Can you include Blind Bidding Dollars in a trade?
 
193Bonka
      Sustainer
      ID: 019742310
      Mon, Sep 03, 2012, 17:25 		Yeah, I mentioned that when we were discussing changing to blind bid. They can be tradeable. I don't think we ever said officially if that was allowed or not, but I see no reason not to.

There is an option to allow/disallow it. Some leagues may not be set properly to allow it.
 
194Letter J
      ID: 47782719
      Mon, Sep 03, 2012, 17:34 		Thanks Bonka
 
195TD
      Leader
      ID: 036331011
      Mon, Sep 03, 2012, 17:45 		17.08 Earl Thomas, S, SEA
I only had one DB on my team, so I was looking for another. Thomas is a 3rd year safety with playmaking abilities. He was a top 20 fantasy DB last season. His interceptions went down from 5 to 2 in his 2nd season and his tackle numbers went up. I expect his tackle numbers to remain high this season, and he will hopefully have a big play or two to make him a top 10 DB.

18.07 Evan Royster, RB, WAS
Royster is in the mix to be the Redskins starting RB. Shanahan likes to try different RBs until he finds one he likes. If Royster doesn't initially win the starting job, I plan to keep him until I need to make some moves because of byes.

19.08 Lance Kendricks, TE, STL
I got Kendricks as a backup TE to Vernon Davis. He is an athletic TE with pass catching skills who was a disappointment as a rookie in 2011. I think he has a better chance to do well this season with a full training camp and a new coaching staff.

20.07 Daryl Smith, LB, JAC
I chose Smith to add depth to my linebackers and to fill in on bye weeks. He has consistently had around 100 tackles the last few years.

21.08 Darian Stewart, S, STL
Stewart is my 3rd DB to add depth and fill in on bye weeks. He had good fantasy numbers in his first two seasons in the league.

22.07 Alex Henery, K, PHI
I try to pick a kicker when the players similar to those I am choosing will be available as free agents during season. Henery had a solid rookie season with the Eagles. He should have plenty opportunities to score because of the strength of the Eagles offense.

23.08 Josh Cribbs, WR, CLE
Cribbs one of the few playmakers on the Browns. Even if he doesn't play much at WR, he has a chance to score points returning kicks and can be used on bye weeks.

24.07 Tamba Hali, LB, KC
I should have used this pick for a 2nd DL, but I forgot we needed 2 in this league. Hali is suspended for the first game, but should be productive after that. He is a pass rushing 3-4 LB who had 12 sacks last season.

 
196russelldl
      ID: 206493120
      Mon, Sep 03, 2012, 20:27 		19.06 Isaiah Pead RB STL

My RB situation is a little dicey so a few lottery tickets wouldn't hurt. And with all the committees around the league, there aren't that many actual lottery tickets left that could pay off. Reports are good on Pead, we know Jeff Fisher is going to run the ball, Stephen Jackson has a history of injuries, and just to round it out, Pead will be handling some return duties so that helps with his floor.


20.09 Matt Cassel QB KC

I wasn't worried about backup QB since I have Brady as my starter. If he isn't playing then I'm probably in trouble. But I didn't think any legit QB2s would be left after this round. I was surprised that Cassel was still hanging around. I actually thought I may have forgot to cross him off. He'll be more on par with Alex Smith numbers this season but that offense does have weapons. I felt like this was a great value at this spot.

21.06 Lavonte David LB TB

I usually end up drafting extra IDPs late in drafts because the talent level is usually much better than the offensive lottery tickets still floating around. As a rookie, David is a bit of an upside pick. But in 27 college games he put up 285 tackles and 11.5 sacks. And they say he's looking good throughout camp. I'll take that. Also, I may not need him as an IDP but he's a nice insurance policy against injury and a potential trade chip.

22.09 Emmanuel Sanders WR PIT

Sanders has decent upside in that he'll be the slot receiver in PIT, he's only one injury away from starting, and the steelers are really thin at wideout. Add to it the facts that he's been a contributor in the past, he'll return some kicks and there's no great TE to steal those targets.

23.06 Janikowski K OAK

First of all, I love being able to pull for the Big Fat Kicker. Usually I just take the best available kicker in the last round, but considering my draft spot that would have basically meant no better than 9th best kicker. I knew that the guy I wanted with my last pick would still be there so I went kicker one round early to get the Fat One.

24.09 Kyle Arrington CB NE

I wanted a backup DB and I figured Arrington would last until the final round. 88 tackles, 15 passes defended and 7 picks equals a solid backup.
 
197Frick
      ID: 157331422
      Mon, Sep 03, 2012, 20:37 		20.08 Nick Foles QB

At this point of the draft, I have a complete team (I think) so I'm drafting to cover injuries and byes. Considering Vick's injury history I think Foles gets time by the 5th week. Does that make him worth the draft pick? Probably not, but it will probably open up options for bye weeks and trades.

21.07 Javon Ringer, RB

A handcuff to Chris Johnson, I also have had Ringer in other deep leagues. He has shown himself to be an average back if Johnson is out.

22.08 Nate Kaeding, K

I guess this pick actually gives me a complete roster. Kaeding should be in a prolific offense so he should get plenty of chances. He also kicks for Norv, so who knows what will happen in San Diego.

23.07 Joe McKnight, RB

He has some value based on his return prospects. I drafted him before I heard about the news that he and USC were being investigated by the NCAA again. At least Reggie Bush was a difference maker in college. I don't think the same could be said of McKnight. Here's hoping that USC wins the National Championship, then receives the death penalty.

24.08 S Hill

Without going to the league site, it took me a some time to remember who this was. I think Hill is a wide receiver. Honestly, if you are still reading these trying to decide on a draft pick, i fear for your draft.
 
198I_AM_CANADIAN
      ID: 2510512518
      Mon, Sep 03, 2012, 21:09 		Just wondering... will you be doing a Consolated Draft Results thread/posting like in previous years?

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