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| Posted by: Guru
- [330592710] Tue, Jul 16, 2013, 15:16
Now that the managers for the 2013 RIFC have been set, it's time to organize the qualifying leagues.
Once again, I hope to have two AAA leagues and one AA league, each with 14 managers.
Managers in the AAA leagues will be prequalified based on last year's experience. In general, prequalifiers are the RIFC teams who were not invited to return to the RIFC, plus all playoff teams in last year's qualifying leagues, plus the top non-playoff teams in each of those leagues. Here is the (alphabetical) list of the 28 managers who are pre-qualified for a AAA league:
The Beezer
Building 7
damoose
Dave R
Donkey Hunters
dpr
Frick
Fugazi
Goatlocker
goldcoach
gurudan
jaydog
jzapps
Letter J
Loki
louky
mjd
russelldl
Slackjawed yokels
Slowhand
SwinganaMiss
Syncopats
TB
Toral
Tree
Valkyrie
VampireWeekend
YWK
Commissioners have already volunteered for the two AAA leagues: damoose and mjd.
Rather than starting a free-for-all signup thread, I have sent an email to each of these managers (using the email address that they registered at myfantasyleague.com last season). If you are on the list above, please check your email. (Let me know if you can't find it. Check your spam folder first.)
I am also emailing all other managers not prequalified for a AAA slot, just to make sure they are also interested in playing in AA this year. If there are openings in AAA (because a qualifier has opted out), the AA list will be used to fill those openings – unless I decide to use a different league structure (not planned, but I want to keep options open until all is settled).
A few general comments about the RIFC leagues, for those who are unfamiliar with the setup.
1. The top RIFC league is filled each year from the top teams in that league and the AAA and AA qualifying leagues. Several teams from each AAA league will advance, while the (playoff) winner of the AA league will also move up to the top league.
2. AAA leagues are also filled with those who have qualified based on prior performance.
3. Leagues are hosted at myfantasyleague.com, and the draft is also held at that site. The draft is a “slow” online draft, typically taking place during the last week of August. Each league will set its own timeline – but you must be available to make picks each day during your draft. (Queues can be used to make your picks at times when you may be delayed or unavailable.)
4. Teams have 24 players, from which 15 will start each week. Individual defensive players (IDP) are included, and 7 of the 15 starting slots are for IDPs.
5. Doubleheaders are scheduled each week, so each team faces two different opponents head-to-head. The regular season is 13 weeks, allowing for a complete round robin schedule where is opponent is faced twice. The top 8 teams are then seeded in a single elimination bracket to determine a champion during weeks 14-16.
For a more detailed listing of the 2012 rules, see the next post in this thread.
If you did not play in a RIFC league last season and would like to play in a AA league this year, you may sign up below. Please provide your email address if you sign up – and it must be an address that you check and will respond to.
Once I get responses from most of last year’s managers (via email), I’ll post more organizational details here.
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| | | 1 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Jul 16, 2013, 15:17
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RIFC Rules for 2012, as amended by league vote. Changes from 2011 are shown in italics.
Draft
“Banzai” format: Same as a traditional snake, except the third round is reversed. Thus, the team with the first overall pick has the last pick in rounds 2, 3, and 4.
Roster
1 QB
2 RB
2 WR
1 WR/TE
1 TE
1 K
2 DL
2 LB
2 DB
1 additional IDP (flex)
9 bench
24 Total
Decimal scoring is applied for all categories.
Offense Category Points
(apply to all players, including IDP)
Passing TD 4
Other TD 6 (all TDs, whether on offense, defense, or special teams)
Passing-2pt conv 1
Other-2pt conv 2
Passing yard 1/25 (i.e., .04 per yard)
Rushing yard 1/10 (i.e., .10 per yard)
Receiving yard 1/10
Punt return yard 1/10 (also applies to IDP)
Kick return yard 1/25 (also applies to IDP)
Kick return 0 (no deduction)
Int, fumbles lost -2
Kicking Points
(apply to all players, including IDP)
Extra point made 1
Extra point missed -1
FG under 40 yards 3
FG 40-49 yards 4
FG 50+ yards 5
Missed FG <30 -1
Missed FG 30+ 0
Indiv Defensive Player Points
(apply to all players, including offensive players and kickers)
Solo Tackle 1
Asst Tackle 0.5
Tackle for loss 2
QB hit 1
Pass defensed 1
Sack 1 (half sack=0.5)
Interception 3
Fumble forced 2
Fumble recovery 2
TD 6 (all TDs, whether on offense, defense, or special teams)
Safety 3
Blocked kick (FG, XP, punt) 2
Unlisted players
During the draft, any player may be drafted, regardless of whether or not the player is listed at the hosting game site. Once the draft is completed, unlisted players may not be added to any roster. This applies for any post-draft waiver processing as well.
In the event that a drafted player is not listed after the draft has completed, a placeholder player will be assigned to the drafting team, to be replaced by the drafted player as soon as he is available.
Position eligibility
Except as defined below, a players position eligibility will be that assigned by the league hosting site.
If a player is listed at one position when drafted and that position is subsequently changed by the hosting site, the manager drafting that player may elect to retain the original position. In this event, that player will keep the drafted position eligibility until he is dropped or traded, at which time the eligibility will revert to the hosting systems default position.
Priority Claiming
All free agents (any players not on a current roster) are subject to a weekly claiming process at noon on Wednesday, using a blind bidding process. Each team will be allocated a budget for the regular season of $100, with a minimum bid of $1. Ties will be broken in favor of the current standings (with applicable tiebreakers), worst-to-first.
Starting at 3:00pm on each Wednesday, all free agents may be picked up by any team "first come, first served" Dropped players will not be subject to a one day waiver period.
Immediately following the draft, undrafted players will be subject to a priority claiming process (blind bidding), with tiebreaking priorities equal to the reverse of the draft selection order (i.e, the order in which team selected their draft sequence.)Starting five minutes prior to the scheduled start of each NFL game, no player in that game may be dropped, regardless of whether the player is an active or bench player.
Schedule
13 week round robin
Doubleheaders all weeks 1-13 (play each team twice)
Single elimination playoffs, weeks 14-16
Trades and trade deadline
During the draft, trades may include draft picks. Trades will normally be approved immediately by the Commissioner, assuming they are reasonably balanced. If league managers believe an announced trade is unbalanced, they should protest the trade ASAP.
After the draft, trades will be subject to a review period. For the first 24 hours following a trade, managers may protest a trade by posting a message at the RotoGuru forum, or by sending an email to the Commissioner. If at least 3 managers protest a trade within 24 hours of its announcement, then all managers will be polled within the next 24 hours. If seven or more managers vote to veto a trade, then it will not be approved. If a proposed trade is announced less than 24 hours before the earliest freeze for any player involved, then the entire trade will not be processed until the following week.
If a trade does not receive at least 3 protests, then it will be effective 24 hours after it is announced. If a trade receives at least 3 protests but the protests are not upheld in a full league vote, then the trade will be processed 48 hours after it is announced.
The trade deadline is the weekend following the final week with byes.
Stat corrections
Official stat corrections will be automatically applied. This typically happens on Thursday morning. In the playoffs, this can lead to an issue if a team is suddenly “back in the game”, but that team was unable to make roster moves the prior day. If a stat correction changes a playoff matchup at the last minute, then any impacted team will be given the opportunity to make a last minute roster move, if needed. The Commissioner will attempt to ensure that this provision is enabled as fairly as possible under the circumstances.
During the playoffs, once the first game of the week has started, no stat corrections will be allowed thereafter.
Playoffs
8 teams, single elimination
The 8 teams will be those with the top 6 W/L records plus the two other teams with the most points
The top four seeds will be based on W/L record (including applicable tiebreakers)
Seeds 5-8 will be based on total points for the other four playoff teams
Teams with equivalent W/L records are ranked based on total points first, then head-to-head record.
Bracket is fixed (no reseeding after each round)
Blind bidding will continue throughout the playoffs. At the beginning of the playoffs, the top seeded team will receive an additional blind bidding allocation of $16, the second seed will receive $14, … with the 8th seed receiving $2. These allocations will be added to any balances remaining from the regular season. Any blind bidding ties during the playoffs will be awarded in favor of the better seeded team.
If a playoff game ends in a tie score, the team with the better seed shall advance.
There will be no restriction on player add/drop transactions for teams still active in the championship playoffs. Teams which are not still active in the Championship playoffs may not make any transactions - adds or drops - even if they are still competing in the Consolation bracket.
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| | | 2 | Toral
ID: 424462011
Tue, Jul 16, 2013, 15:23
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No e-mail received yet.
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| | | 3 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Jul 16, 2013, 17:00
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One thing that we need to discuss is blind bidding. Last year was the first year that we used this, and I think it generally went well, although there was some confusion.
Some of the confusion was that we did not use conditional blind bidding, so there was no way to prioritize blind bids, other than by price. We could certainly consider moving to conditional blind bids this year.
What is the difference between conditional and non-conditional blind bidding?
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| | | 4 | I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 14615220
Tue, Jul 16, 2013, 17:52
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letter_j has expressed that he will indeed be returning for these once they are ready.
Thx,
Ben
IAC
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| | | 5 | SwinganaMiss
ID: 126381717
Wed, Jul 17, 2013, 18:38
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Count me in for AAA . Thanks!
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| | | 6 | Khahan
ID: 10641718
Wed, Jul 17, 2013, 19:07
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Guru - I could have anywhere from 1 player to a whole league (that's highly unlikely but a few could surprise me) interested. Most likely only 1-3 players. When is a good time to send them over?
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| | | 7 | mmikulka
ID: 555181521
Wed, Jul 17, 2013, 23:17
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I'd like to play in the AA League!
mmikulka@yahoo.com
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| | | 8 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Jul 18, 2013, 10:32
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[6] I've had a lot of acceptances, but also a few who have opted out for this year. The question at the moment is whether we'll end up collapsing the AA league and just go with two AAA leagues. It's still way too early to make that call, however. (At least 10 people have yet to respond).
Meanwhile, it would be very helpful to know how many potential newbies we have for a AA league. And Khahan, if you have multiple "recruits", I guess it would be good to get a better fix on that number sooner than later.
We have some time, of course. I would like to get this settled by the first week of August.
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| | | 9 | Toral
Leader
ID: 2111201313
Thu, Jul 18, 2013, 12:23
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Re (2) -- no e-mail received, but I am an acceptance.
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| | | 10 | fugazi
ID: 28545223
Thu, Jul 18, 2013, 17:41
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I'm in...
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| | | 11 | dpr
ID: 9513258
Thu, Jul 18, 2013, 18:47
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I am in
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| | | 12 | Bean
Sustainer
ID: 49934911
Thu, Jul 18, 2013, 20:30
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Please count me in this year for AA
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| | | 13 | sarge33rd
ID: 4609710
Sat, Jul 20, 2013, 01:37
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I had responded to your email Guru with an affirmative however, I also said last year that I detest the blind bidding for F/A. If thats what the league goes with, good for them. But I'm out on that system.
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| | | 14 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sat, Jul 20, 2013, 17:59
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astade is in for AA
astadek@gmail.com
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| | | 15 | Letter_J
ID: 296202018
Sat, Jul 20, 2013, 19:20
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re post 4 above,
I'm back...
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| | | 16 | Slowhand
ID: 436192121
Sun, Jul 21, 2013, 22:19
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Would love to play again....must have missed the email tho.
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| | | 17 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Jul 23, 2013, 16:25
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Here's the update:
28 invitations were sent out for AAA leagues (two 14-team leagues)
23 have accepted
2 have declined
3 have not yet responded (Tree, Syncopats, Slackjawed Yokel)
I currently have 6 who would like to play in a AA league. Three of last year's AA managers have opted out.
So, at this point, I have only 29 acceptances. If we are to fill three 14-team leagues, that leaves 13 people to go - unless we allow people already in AAA or RIFC to manage a second team in AA. I'm not opposed to that if it is a minority, but do not want to set up a AA league that is mostly duplicate managers.
We don't need to make a final decision yet, but there are several other options I'm considering (in no particular order)
1. Scrap the AA league, and just fill two AAA leagues. That would leave at least one interested manager out of luck.
2. Reduce the size of the AAA and AA leagues. The 14-team size is the natural fit, as that allows for a 13-week regular season balanced schedule (every team faces every other team twice, with doubleheader scheduling). It also keeps player depth comparable to that in the RIFC. But we could shrink to 12-team leagues with some form of unbalanced schedule. An unbalanced schedule, while suboptimal, is not so bad when the last two playoff spots are based on total points anyway (and thus unimpacted by scheduling.)
Before making any decision (and while waiting to hear from the three no-shows), I'd still like to continue to recruit new blood. If you are interested in participating in a AA league and have not yet signed up, please sign up here. (Currently, the list of AA managers is wolfer, Da Bomb, taxman, mmikulka, Bean, and astade)
If you are already in one of the other leagues and would be interested in managing a team in the AA league as well, please indicate that as well. (Note that if your AA team is your 2nd team, your AA team results do not count in determining qualifications for the RIFC or AAA next year.)
Are there other configurations that I should be considering?
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| | | 18 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Jul 23, 2013, 18:08
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BTW, I found it interesting that a couple of people who opted out specifically mentioned that they were leaving because they hated blind bidding (e.g., post 13).
I suppose one alternative would be to set up the AA league for a traditional priority waiver system. That might reclaim two managers. Not sure why blind bidding should be such a deterrent, however.
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| | | 19 | Toral
Leader
ID: 2111201313
Tue, Jul 23, 2013, 18:19
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I will play in an AA league as well.
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| | | 20 | Tree
ID: 26626239
Tue, Jul 23, 2013, 18:38
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BTW, I found it interesting that a couple of people who opted out specifically mentioned that they were leaving because they hated blind bidding (e.g., post 13).
this is why i haven't responded either. i have again been invited to RIFC AAA, and would really like to play, but just don't like bidding as a waivers process.
i believe it takes away from the opportunity for competitive balance. in football, anything other than weekly worst-to-first waivers seems counter productive.
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| | | 21 | Perm Dude
ID: 41661813
Tue, Jul 23, 2013, 20:21
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For the more competitive RIFC league, and AAA league, the blind bidding seems fine. It rewards not only those who put the effort into timely bidding, but those who play a game-inside-the-game whereby bid rankings might really make a difference.
For the casual AA, where I'm looking ahead for a bye week kicker, this just makes it too complicated.
Just MO.
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| | | 22 | Judy
ID: 54203110
Wed, Jul 24, 2013, 18:37
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I will help out in an AA league. I hate to see those signed up left out...
Will see if I can find some interested folks for AA...
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| | | 23 | wolfer
ID: 556532417
Wed, Jul 24, 2013, 18:55
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Heck I was going to add my 2 cents on blind bidding:
Make it manditory for the RIFC.
Make it optional for AAA.
Don't even think about it for AA.
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| | | 24 | Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Wed, Jul 24, 2013, 20:02
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The rules should be the same across all leagues since the goal is to make it in to the RIFC if you are not currently there. If someone doesn't like the rules they can opt to not play, convince everyone the rules should be changed, or become informed on why weekly resetting worst to first can be a very broken system. That discussion/argument was had last year in one of these threads.
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| | | 25 | Tree
ID: 395323014
Thu, Jul 25, 2013, 10:08
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or become informed on why weekly resetting worst to first can be a very broken system.
a broken system is one that causes people to stop playing because it's less fun. we're seeing that with blind bidding.
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| | | 26 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Jul 25, 2013, 10:18
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If we were to revert to a traditional waiver system for the AA league, how many drop-out managers would we get back?
PD and Sarge, would you rejoin?
Tree, although it would mean a step down to AA, would you participate in a AA league under those conditions?
Trying to figure out a way to get to critical mass. That 4th league has already been paid for, so we ought to find some way to use it.
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| | | 27 | Perm Dude
ID: 41661813
Thu, Jul 25, 2013, 11:06
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Without blind bidding, I would certainly re-up.
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| | | 28 | Barilko6
ID: 106272511
Thu, Jul 25, 2013, 12:27
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I am on my phone so I can't read over this thread right now, but see the discussion on blind bidding.
I'd be interested in joining if a league is created.
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| | | 29 | Tree
ID: 416292511
Thu, Jul 25, 2013, 12:29
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i'd probably be interested in re joining a non blind bidding league. but i'd also like to see more discussion of it. i guess i just fail to see the merit of it, in regards to it making an positive impact in fairness vs. reducing the fun of the game.
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| | | 30 | holt
Donor
ID: 308491916
Thu, Jul 25, 2013, 12:49
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Someone with some time on their hands should run some stats and compare the number of weekly pickups via bidding in 2012 to the number of weekly pickups via the old system in 2011. Did we have a lot of teams that just didn't bother to place bids?
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| | | 31 | I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 154252315
Thu, Jul 25, 2013, 13:12
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RE 17 FYI - I heard from Syncopats. He'll be posting here shortly as back again.
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| | | 32 | barilko6
ID: 496112513
Thu, Jul 25, 2013, 14:11
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Does the league provider have a hybrid claiming process where you can have both blind bidding and then open free agency until start of games?
Would that solve issues?
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| | | 33 | twilson
ID: 366212513
Thu, Jul 25, 2013, 14:50
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Barilko, blind bidding only replaces the waiver system. Once either process has run, all unclaimed players become free agents available on a first come, first served basis until gametime.
On a more general note, I don't really understand how conditional blind bidding is viewed as so much more complicated than the waiver system. If one's goal in a given week is to pick up a random bye week kicker, you have to do the same amount of work whether using waivers or blind bidding. With waivers, you open up a waiver round and then add a series of kickers to it in the order of desirability. For blind bidding, you go to the blind bidding screen and place $1 bids on a series of kickers in the order of desirability. The only difference I see is that blind bidding gives you the ability to target a particular player or group of players. If you decide that one kicker is much more valuable to you than the others, you can place a bigger bid, let's say $10, to make it much more likely that you get your preferred choice. And lastly, if you really don't care who you get, just wait until blind bidding/waivers has run and then grab a FA out of the first come, first served pool.
I understand that waivers has a built-in parity element with the waiver reset in the first 6 weeks of the season, which is a different issue altogether. But I would very much like to hear a bit more from those who consider blind bidding more complicated than the waiver system, as I see it the other way around.
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| | | 34 | Barilko6
ID: 106272511
Thu, Jul 25, 2013, 14:58
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Fair enough. My other league is an auction league with blind bidding in place and its been great.
Having the lowest place team get the hot free agent is a great way to create competitive balance, but I prefer to realize that all managers should work hard to make their team better, not be handed gifts on silver platters week by week, rewarding their incompetence.
On the flip side, what about the top ranked team that loses their RB/QB to injury and no realistic chance for a replacement due to the is position in the standings. With the blind bid process, all teams have the ability to fill holes if they want it badly enough.
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| | | 35 | gurudan
ID: 569231012
Thu, Jul 25, 2013, 18:48
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i've always found that the regular waiver wire system favors west coast managers and younger people who stay up all night.i play in a money league where free agency starts at 800 pm TUES and are processed by your time stamp, and the arguments are monumental. i like blind bidding and would even go so far as to say i'm sure i'd like conditional blind bidding. also, i'll manage a AA team if you need someone. i contacted two people to see if they had an interest, but they don't have time for fantasy football.
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| | | 36 | Judy
ID: 54203110
Fri, Jul 26, 2013, 19:49
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After being quite fearful of blind bidding I really liked it. It was a ton of fun to see who valued whom for how much. Especially fun since the system lets you see all the bids at the end. I thought it was great when somebody bid say $22 and I had bid say $6. Fun to see the value -- to his team -- that he thought the player could be...
That said, even more fun was that in our league we did NOT round to a dollar, but did cents as well. I liked it.
Also some guys did not bid at all and some used up most of their money by mid season...
To each his /her own...
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| | | 37 | Judy
ID: 54203110
Fri, Jul 26, 2013, 20:06
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Also, it is going to be very interesting to see how MFL classifies the hybrid 3/4 or 4/3 defensive scheme in terms of labeling a guy a DE or OLB...makes a huge difference for us with the 2 x DL requirement...
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| | | 38 | Russelldl
ID: 10792323
Mon, Jul 29, 2013, 22:45
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I didn't like the blind bidding. I found it overly complicated. In theory it's fine but in practice I found myself spending a lot of time trying to figure out the process. And that's not fun.
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| | | 39 | Promize
ID: 11651713
Tue, Jul 30, 2013, 08:27
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5 people declining to come back out of 28 shouldn't dictate a rule change IMO. Just sounds more like, I want it my way or I'm not playing playground talk. Rules and changes need to change just about every year to bring interest and spice or else it is like eating a saltine cracker everyday... Occasionally you need a little cheese on that cracker, etc. For now I think the blind bidding is something different and new, but perhaps in 2-3 years it will be the new saltine cracker.
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| | | 40 | Perm Dude
ID: 41661813
Tue, Jul 30, 2013, 08:38
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I want it my way or I'm not playing playground talk
With respect, I don't see any of the people declining to play phrasing it as that way. We declined to play, giving our reason for doing so. It was Guru who suggested the rule change, not anyone who opted out.
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| | | 41 | Promize
ID: 11651713
Tue, Jul 30, 2013, 08:50
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I like all three of you guys in my leagues when you play, Sarge, Perm Dude and Tree. So seeing you not play, sure I would hate it.
I'm just saying that I don't think GURU should change rules just to please 3-5 people. Time changes all things and people/managers need to adapt. If you enjoy the people you play with yearly, which I do, I take the changes and run with it. I can voice my opinion and say, oh I don't like that new rule etc. But I'm not going to say, I'm not playing.
It just sort of reminds me how we are with kids these days and coddling... everyone has to have a trophy... No 1st / 2nd / 3rd places.
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| | | 42 | Perm Dude
ID: 41661813
Tue, Jul 30, 2013, 09:15
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Oh, I have no problem with your opinion about whether Guru should change the rule or not. Up to him entirely. Which means if he wants to change it to keep people it then it is still up to him.
I'm only pushing back on the idea that the dropouts asked that the rule be changed--we did not.
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| | | 43 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Jul 30, 2013, 10:24
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I just emailed all RIFC and AAA managers to try to get a complete count of how many would be interested in running a second team. Please check your emails and let me know ASAP.
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| | | 44 | barilko6
ID: 3658309
Tue, Jul 30, 2013, 10:58
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As mentioned above...if there is room in any opening leagues, I would be interested.
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| | | 45 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Jul 30, 2013, 12:45
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Although I'm still collecting feedback, it looks like we will be able to field a AA league.
Here is the current lay of the land.
I have 24 acceptances for AAA. That leaves four open slots. I have four AA managers from last year who I think will be interested in moving up to fill those spots, if asked.
I currently have 6 others who are interested in a AA team. Two have said they will join only with traditional waivers (PD and sarge). The other four did not play last year (Bean, mmikulka, astade, barilko6).
Tree still has not committed to anything as far as I know, although I am assuming he is not interested in AAA with blind bidding. It sounds like he would join a non-blind bidding AA league [post 29], although that is clearly not a firm commitment yet.
That leaves 7 slots still to fill in AA. Wolfer would be one of the AA managers who could move up to AAA, but he has agreed to continue to commish the AA league (with a second team) if it flies. So I may only need 6 other managers - either new managers or duplicates from other RIFC leagues.
I suspect I'll be able to get six managers to take a second team. (I might already have them.) However, I'd like to keep things open for new managers for at least a few more days.
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| | | 46 | Khahan
ID: 39432178
Tue, Jul 30, 2013, 13:16
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I am working on 2 buddies to join the AA league. Both have told me they would be interested and both have been sent links to this thread. But one has a newborn and the other is a newly wed with a wife hounding him to fix up their house so I may have to keep hounding them. Once in, I have no doubts either will stay active, though.
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| | | 47 | Tree
ID: 376353013
Tue, Jul 30, 2013, 14:35
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sorry. i'm interested in a non-blind bidding league, presuming such a thing exists.
i wonder if there isn't an option here with eventually a non-blind bidding AAA as well?
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| | | 48 | holt
Donor
ID: 308491916
Tue, Jul 30, 2013, 14:46
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I don't think bidding adds much to the league, but it's also not difficult to adapt to and isn't much more time consuming than the old claim system (which is also a hassle).
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| | | 49 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Jul 30, 2013, 15:40
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Tree and Slackjawed Yokel - I just sent a "fill or kill" email for AAA. Tree - sorry I missed your post 47 before I sent it - which I take as a decline for AAA.
I don't think Yokel is even active in anything RotoGuru anymore, so I don't expect him to respond.
So, I expect to send out four "promotion" notices tomorrow for the four open AAA slots.
I will keep AA signups open for a few more days - probably through the weekend. I do have enough second-team volunteers to fill the remaining AA openings; I haven't yet made a final decision on the waiver system for that league.
Frankly, I'm a bit flummoxed by the strong sentiment expressed by a few against blind bidding - but I do recognize their stance. My preference is still to have all leagues under a common framework - which would be blind bidding for all. But I would like to get as broad participation as I can, and I also know that their are many aspects of RIFC other than blind bidding (very deep rosters, IDPs, full scoring system) along with a learning curve for mfl.com that suggest that perhaps a more familiar waiver system for newcomers is not a bad thing.
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| | | 50 | Slackjawed Yokel
ID: 38502923
Tue, Jul 30, 2013, 20:09
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Just sent you an email, guru... I'm in. I apologize for the holdup.
And, you're right... I've had a nasty year, but plan to be active again with football.
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| | | 51 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Jul 30, 2013, 20:31
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Surprise surprise! Tree also decided to play AAA again. Will work out AAA league assignments in the next day or so.
AA recruiting is still ongoing. I have plenty of managers willing to take a second team - so we will definitely have a 14-team AA league - but would still prefer to find new blood where possible.
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| | | 52 | PhillyBuster
ID: 116473017
Tue, Jul 30, 2013, 21:22
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I'm up for a AA slot. Never done an IDP league but have been playing FF for years. Even played the golf game here for a while years ago. Would enjoy getting back into the swing of things here at Rotoguru.
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| | | 53 | Promize
ID: 11651713
Wed, Jul 31, 2013, 11:05
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I'll vouch for PhillyBuster. I sent an email that contains his email address as well.
Thanks
Promize
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| | | 54 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Jul 31, 2013, 11:06
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Here are the tentative AAA league assignments, which were essentially randomly determined. Later today, I'll be sending emails to the respective commissioners, along with myfantasyleague.com registration info.
AAA#1 - Commissioner is damoose
damoose
Frick
Loki
Beezer
Da Bomb
Dave R
Donkey Hunters
dpr
goldcoach
gurudan
Slowhand
Syncopats
Toral
YWK
AAA#2 - Commissioner is mjd
mjd
Letter J
SwinganaMiss
Fugazi
Goatlocker
jaydog
Jzapps
louky
nerfherder
russelldl
Slackjawed yokels
Tree
Valkyrie
VampireWeekend
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| | | 55 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Jul 31, 2013, 11:22
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For the AA league, I'm leaning toward using a traditional waiver system, but not quite the same as what we had used in prior RIFC seasons. That system used standings to reset the priorities in the first 6 weeks, which gave an advantage to teams that started poorly (which doesn't necessarily mean they were weaker teams), and which required a bit of manual adjustment each week by the commissioner (or me) to make it work properly on mfl.com.
Instead, I'm proposing that the initial waiver priority order be established prior to the draft, in the reverse of the order that teams are randomly assigned for the draft selection round. So, if you get the first chance to determine your draft order position, you will start the season with the lowest waiver priority, etc. The order will not reset during the regular season, except that waiver claims awarded will drop that team to the bottom of the list, like traditional waivers.
Starting with the playoffs, priorities will be reseeded for playoff teams to give the top seed the top priority.
Hopefully, this system is balanced and straightforward, and should not add any extra confusion for managers who are often already dealing with a lot of new fantasy football aspects.
So far, I have the following 10 teams for the AA league :
Commissioner: wolfer
Perm Dude
Sarge33rd
mmikulka
Bean
astade
barlko6
taxman
Crabby Bills
PhillyBuster
The league will have 14 teams. We'll wait until Monday to see if any more new managers ask to play. At that time, I have an ample list of managers from other RIFC leagues who have offered to run a second team to fill any remaining slots. Registration info will be forthcoming.
If you would like to join this AA league, please post your interest (and email address) in this thread, or send an email to davehall@rotoguru2.com
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| | | 57 | Toral
ID: 1710311217
Wed, Jul 31, 2013, 12:16
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Per post 19, I will play in an AA league as well.
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| | | 58 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Jul 31, 2013, 12:18
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I've got a long list of teams interested in a second team in AA. I'm not going to designate those until next week, giving priority to new teams first.
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| | | 59 | Tree
ID: 17613114
Wed, Jul 31, 2013, 15:03
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if there's room with a more traditional waiver system such as listed above, i'd also do an AA team. i really do like MFL.
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| | | 60 | twolves
ID: 10636317
Wed, Jul 31, 2013, 19:39
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The game looks a bit complicated with all the categories for new player. However, still interested if AA opening.
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| | | 61 | damoose
ID: 1575119
Thu, Aug 01, 2013, 10:51
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I started a thread for AAA #1 over at the football leagues and standings page.
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| | | 62 | mjd
Dude
ID: 501381415
Thu, Aug 01, 2013, 12:47
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Link to RIFC AAA #2
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| | | 63 | Bean
Sustainer
ID: 49934911
Thu, Aug 01, 2013, 14:30
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gonna be on vacation until 11 AUG with limited internet access. If looking for a response from me on something during that time, please take that into consideration
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| | | 64 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sat, Aug 03, 2013, 10:12
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I just sent out AA invites to 11 teams - the 10 teams listed in post 55, plus twolves. We'll fill the last three slots in the next few days, either with new teams, or duplicates from other leagues.
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| | | 65 | sarge33rd
ID: 3871221
Sat, Aug 03, 2013, 12:38
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Sorry for the delayed response....my time is unsure atm. W/O blind bidding I'd *want* to rejoin, but in fairness to everyone else, I need to pass this year. I cant promise timely drafting right now.
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| | | 66 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Aug 05, 2013, 09:22
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I just sent out five invites for duplicate AA teams, to be managed by:
Toral
Judy
Promize
Jaydog
Holt brothers
To the others who offered to run a second team - sit tight for now. I'm hoping that the AA league is now full, but there are still a few teams that have not yet signed in.
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| | | 67 | wolfer
ID: 1572258
Mon, Aug 05, 2013, 09:23
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AA league thread is here.
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| | | 68 | WG
ID: 3811221423
Tue, Aug 06, 2013, 15:25
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Are there any more openings for RIFC teams?
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| | | 69 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Aug 06, 2013, 16:16
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WG - we'll fit you in. Let's wait to see if there are any no-shows, otherwise we'll give you a slot in lieu of a duplicate manager in AA.
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| | | 70 | WG
ID: 3811221423
Tue, Aug 06, 2013, 16:40
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Thanks Guru... sorry for posting so late about this. Appreciate the consideration.
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| | | 71 | gurudan
ID: 569231012
Wed, Aug 07, 2013, 13:48
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i had emailed that if you needed managers for AA, I would play. are you filled?
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| | | 72 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sat, Aug 10, 2013, 19:36
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All filled.
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