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Subject: RIFC 2013: Regular season discussion

Posted by: Guru - [330592710] Wed, Sep 04, 2013, 11:46

Still awaiting rationales from twilson.

RIFC League summary page is here:
http://rotoguru1.com/foot/RIFC.html

Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Sep 05, 2013, 12:10

Here is the link to download the 2013 version of the MFL Game Day app. (windows only)

Judy
ID: 54203110
Fri, Sep 06, 2013, 00:05

Wow, they said Peyton would have 45 TD this season. 6 so far tonight... 13:13 to go. Wow!

I_AM_CANADIAN
Sustainer
ID: 01361448
Fri, Sep 06, 2013, 12:34

Tough opening night!
One of my favorite picks from the draft goes down (after getting run-over by his own teammate), and in one matchup, I get to face the record setting Peyton Manning.

holt
Donor
ID: 308491916
Sun, Sep 08, 2013, 13:20

The MFL servers seem pretty overwhelmed today. Hopefully it's not going to be like this every Sunday.

Judy
ID: 54203110
Sun, Sep 08, 2013, 17:40

Tough day when the stat line for your TE#1 is 1 tackle...

Guru
ID: 330592710
Sun, Sep 08, 2013, 18:29

Could've been worse. Most scoring systems wouldn't give him that point!

Judy
ID: 54203110
Sun, Sep 08, 2013, 19:17

True that.

Khahan
ID: 16341313
Sun, Sep 08, 2013, 23:13

Not that my score is all that spectacular, but it looks like I get the 2 highest scoring teams of the week for my opponents this week.

Kyle
Sustainer
ID: 052753312
Mon, Sep 09, 2013, 16:02

Sweet! My RIFC debut has a solid negative score from my second round pick... I'll be really happy with a 1-1 this week but I've only got Daniel Manning and 28 points going against RG3 and 2 LBs.

Khahan
ID: 16341313
Tue, Sep 10, 2013, 00:58

Wow, how often do you score 150 points and go 0-2. Nice week from Promize and especially Holt.

holt
Donor
ID: 308491916
Tue, Sep 10, 2013, 04:42

Thanks. You had some bad luck there Khahan. I think I'd rather put up 150 and go 0-2 than 130 and 2-0 though.

Khahan
Donor
ID: 39432178
Tue, Sep 10, 2013, 09:15

Gotta disagree Holt. I'd rather go 2-0. :)

And Kyle, join in my misery brother! Less than a point difference between us and both 0-2. And we didn't face any of the same opponents. Last year in AAA I figured 135 or so a week would be competitive and get into the playoffs. Doesn't look that way this year.

Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Sep 10, 2013, 10:41

I just did some quick analysis on points.

Last year, the average pts/game for the RIFC regular season was 133. In last year's first week, the average was 136.

This year, the first week average was 150.74. That score is at the 79th percentile for last season. Four teams scored above 164; last year, only 17 scores exceeded 164 during the entire regular season (just under 10%). And Holt's score of 200.02 was only 0.44 below last year's top score.

Kyle
Sustainer
ID: 052753312
Tue, Sep 10, 2013, 11:03

Khahan: I agree, I'd rather get the wins, but right now we're both in the playoffs if the season ended today! ;)

The bright point in my loss: It's not all David Wilson's fault.

And so far my post draft look at if it was smart to draft Brees-Wilson vs. Forte-Peyton isn't looking like a positive.

Kyle
Sustainer
ID: 052753312
Tue, Sep 10, 2013, 11:23

Sorry for the double post, but I wanted to make sure I do set up my waiver priority right.

Here's how I set up my waivers with fake players and fake dollar amounts.

I would like to add in order
1. Johnny Unitas for $35
2. Joe Montana for $30
3. Jim Brown for $25

I would like to drop in order
1. Dan Marino
2. Brett Favre
3. Tim Tebow

If I set it like this, should I be the high bidder on all 3, will I get all 3 players? And if I miss out on Unitas will I get Montana and Brown and drop Marino and Favre?

Add	Bid	Drop
Johnny Unitas	$35	Dan Marino
Joe Montana	$30	Dan Marino
Joe Montana	$30	Brett Favre
Jim Brown	$25	Dan Marino
Jim Brown	$25	Brett Favre
Jim Brown	$25	Tim Tebow

Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Sep 10, 2013, 12:45

You would need to set them up in separate groups if you want a shot at all three. I think this would work:

Group 1
Johnny Unitas $35 Dan Marino

Group 2
Joe Montana $30 Dan Marino
Joe Montana $30 Brett Favre

Group 3
Jim Brown $25 Dan Marino
Jim Brown $25 Brett Favre
Jim Brown $25 Tim Tebow

Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Sep 10, 2013, 12:51

Here is the blind bidding help page

Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Sep 10, 2013, 12:56

I think there is another way to accomplish [16]

Group 1
Johnny Unitas $35 Dan Marino
Joe Montana $30 Dan Marino
Jim Brown $25 Dan Marino

Group 2
Joe Montana $30 Brett Favre
Jim Brown $25 Brett Favre

Group 3
Jim Brown $25 Tim Tebow

If you were the high bidder for all three, you'd still get all three. I think this setup might be preferable, however, because if you were not the highest bidder for Unitas, you would have your "group 1" claims for Marino & Brown evaluated sooner - since they were part of a higher bid group.

Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Sep 10, 2013, 13:05

For sake of discussion, let's assume that the groups were set up as in [16].

Let's also assume that two other managers had the follow claim groups set up.

Manager 2, Group 1
add Johnny Unitas $45, drop Dan Marino

Manager 3, Group 1
add Johnny Unitas $40, drop Dan Marino
add Joe Montana $10, drop Dan Marino

Clearly, Manager 2 would get Unitas, with the top bid of $45.

But, would manager 3's group 1 be evaluated next (based on the second-highest top claim of $40)? And if so, would he get Montana for $10? Or, would the Unitas portion of the group 1 claim be ignored, since Unitas was not longer available? And therefore, Montana would go for $30 to the first manager.

I'm hoping it's the latter. But based on the help page, I'm not 100% sure.

Kyle
Sustainer
ID: 052753312
Tue, Sep 10, 2013, 15:08

Thanks Guru!

I'm going to try setting them up as 3 separate groups like [17]. As much as I love the blind bidding, for some reason MFL does them quite confusingly.

I really hope I'm able to win Johnny Unitas. Dan Marino just hasn't done what I expected him to do this year.

Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Sep 10, 2013, 18:10

I sent a question to MFL about [20], and they responded that Montana would go for $30 (as intuitively expected), since all unsettled Unitas bids would be eliminated at that point, and have no lingering impact on claim group priorities.

So I think either [17] or [19] would work for your example. I'm still not sure if they are exactly equivalent in impact or not.

holt
Donor
ID: 308491916
Tue, Sep 10, 2013, 20:43

Thanks Guru! Very helpful.

Kyle
Sustainer
ID: 052753312
Wed, Sep 11, 2013, 12:06

Holy crap Holt... $87 spent in week 1.

I_AM_CANADIAN
Sustainer
ID: 01361448
Wed, Sep 11, 2013, 12:29

$87 seems like a lot to me, considering there was no big RB names leapfrogging up the ranks.

TD
ID: 6245199
Wed, Sep 11, 2013, 12:30

I submitted $25 bid for Thomas. Holt got him for $26.

holt
Donor
ID: 308491916
Wed, Sep 11, 2013, 12:41

Haha. I certainly didn't expect to win all 3 players. Figured someone would bid at least 30 for Thomas. I definitely wanted Edelman and had no idea what others would bid on him.

Last year I basically made no use of my bid money, only using it to pick up minor players week to week. Figured I'd make some use of it this season.

TE Thomas is available for trade, by the way.

holt
Donor
ID: 308491916
Thu, Sep 12, 2013, 17:28

Looking to trade Julius Thomas. I don't need WR or TE. Could possibly use an upgrade at RB or QB. So maybe I trade Thomas/Vick for a QB, or Thomas/Richardson for a RB. OR, Thomas straight across for a RB. Looking for a fair deal. No lopsided deals.

holt
Donor
ID: 308491916
Thu, Sep 12, 2013, 17:56

Adding my email. Also, if anyone wants to add me on facebook: holt's facebook page

I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 14615220
Thu, Sep 12, 2013, 23:46

Played a hunch, and started Leon Washington tonight?! That didn't seem to work out to great for me. I was hoping since he was primary KR on the depth chart, plus hoping he'd fill in some of Vereen's catches... not this week.

Kyle
Sustainer
ID: 052753312
Fri, Sep 13, 2013, 11:45

IAC: He could have had a worse game... *$&% David Wilson *&#@$

I_AM_CANADIAN
Sustainer
ID: 01361448
Fri, Sep 13, 2013, 14:07

Kyle: things just got worse... Vick Ballard IR

Kyle
Sustainer
ID: 052753312
Fri, Sep 13, 2013, 14:41

I just read that. And I happened to read that right after Guru picked up Brown.

Khahan
Donor
ID: 39432178
Mon, Sep 16, 2013, 09:22

Its not over yet, Guru. 2 red zone carries for the firm and I'm catching you.

Ok, its probably over. She aint sang yet, but the fat lady is warming up and taking the stage.

Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Mon, Sep 16, 2013, 23:32

This is not a good start to the season for me. Likely 1-3 with 3 of my top 6 picks getting hurt this week. Brian Cushing is doing his best to keep me in the points for hunt.

Khahan
ID: 16341313
Tue, Sep 17, 2013, 00:15

Back to back 150 point weeks and 1 win to show for it.

I_AM_CANADIAN
Sustainer
ID: 01361448
Tue, Sep 17, 2013, 09:26

Only 1 team 2-2, then the rest either above or bellow the line. It's too early for teams to start aligning for the playoffs?

Kyle
Sustainer
ID: 052753312
Tue, Sep 17, 2013, 11:50

I'm not mentioning my game against Promize until Thursday because who knows what scoring adjustment will happen... Last week there was about 10 points thrown around between Tuesday and Thursday.

What I will say is this is an odd year for RBs. The average starting WR and TE are earning more than the average starting RB. Here's a breakdown of each position so far.

QB	19.73
RB	9.76
WR	14.44
TE	10.25
W/T	3.61
PK	8.43
DL	6.17
LB	10.96
DB	6.95
IDP	5.58
Total	144.16

Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Wed, Sep 18, 2013, 15:03

Wow, what a mess trying to pick guys up there. I know there can be issues with multiple windows, but I think that went above and beyond screwing things up.

I_AM_CANADIAN
Sustainer
ID: 01361448
Wed, Sep 18, 2013, 15:31

I was wondering... How come he dropped Mario Williams?!

holt
Donor
ID: 308491916
Wed, Sep 18, 2013, 20:13

Yeah I was confused by the M Williams thing. I didn't realize (or had forgotten) that players that we drop during the week don't go on waivers.

Judy
ID: 54203110
Thu, Sep 19, 2013, 08:12

You can program it to go on waivers...

Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Sep 19, 2013, 10:40

We stopped putting dropped players on waivers last year, because the setup just doesn't integrate well with blind bidding.

I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 14615220
Thu, Sep 19, 2013, 23:48

vs HOLT I didn't think my IDPs would be able to outperform Vick/DJax tonight!?

holt
Donor
ID: 308491916
Fri, Sep 20, 2013, 13:27

Crappy crappy game. Watched it with my bro who had Justin Houston and his 31 points going for his AAA#2 team. Just brutal.

I_AM_CANADIAN
Sustainer
ID: 01361448
Fri, Sep 20, 2013, 15:31

Ah... I guess he was playing again my brother! Brother vs Brother grudge matches. ;)

holt
Donor
ID: 308491916
Fri, Sep 20, 2013, 15:46

I think J.Houston actually got shortchanged. He had 4.5 sacks and only was credited for 3.5. Some Chiefs fans are up in arms. That last play of the game where he sacked Vick and caused the fumbled wasn't counted as a sack. No idea why.

Kyle
Sustainer
ID: 052753312
Sun, Sep 22, 2013, 16:22

Ugh I have just the worst luck. Picked up Franklin to replace Bush and he goes down. David Wilson is disappointing as ever... And Drew Brees is trying his best to carry the team.

Khahan
ID: 16341313
Mon, Sep 23, 2013, 23:50

Oh the pain!!!!!

Frick
ID: 432501512
Tue, Sep 24, 2013, 10:05

Rock-Paper-Scissors

Did you lose a fantasy game by less than a TD from a Denver RB?

Kyle
Sustainer
ID: 052753312
Tue, Sep 24, 2013, 12:09

So I think I did this last year in the AAA league I was in, and I've tried to do in the past when I've had time. This year I'm going to try to keep it up throughout the season and I'll update this every 3 weeks.

This is a breakdown of how many points your players scored by position. I took the top 2 scoring WR (if you started 3 WRs), the top scoring TE (if you started 2 TEs) and the lowest of the 3 at the W/T. The same holds true for the IDP flex. If you started 3 DL, 3 LB, or 3 DB, then your lowest scoring of the three is the flex score. Note: No one has started 3 DL yet.

	QB	RB	WR	TE	W/T	PK	DL	LB	DB	IDP	Total	Offense	Defense	Totals
Holt	25.59	11.57	17.60	11.60	4.33	8.33	12.58	10.75	4.08	7.50	170.53	108.19	62.33	511.58
Ghostwood	30.34	12.02	15.17	0.93	5.40	8.67	3.58	12.25	9.17	6.17	155.87	99.71	56.17	467.62
Promize	18.67	8.45	13.80	16.97	7.87	11.00	6.42	11.42	7.83	4.67	155.01	99.01	56.00	465.02
twilson	18.40	12.75	14.92	8.37	2.17	5.00	9.42	13.58	5.17	3.67	149.28	89.28	60.00	447.84
s R	19.60	11.07	13.38	10.00	4.23	8.33	6.17	10.17	10.42	4.17	148.73	91.07	57.67	446.20
Guru	19.51	12.17	12.70	8.47	2.90	4.67	6.67	12.08	9.90	4.43	147.01	85.27	61.73	441.02
I_AM_CANADIAN	13.94	6.74	13.60	19.93	3.33	10.33	6.50	11.58	7.92	6.50	146.72	88.22	58.50	440.16
Kyle	21.71	7.97	13.03	10.50	4.93	11.33	5.25	13.25	6.31	6.33	146.43	90.47	55.96	439.28
Khahan	19.63	14.53	11.37	8.10	1.33	7.33	7.17	10.42	6.58	5.50	142.03	88.19	53.83	426.08
Bonka	16.65	8.38	12.90	8.13	3.57	6.67	5.33	13.25	6.75	7.50	135.75	77.59	58.17	407.26
youngroman	10.91	9.53	14.08	8.97	3.73	8.33	8.33	11.08	5.92	5.67	135.51	79.18	56.33	406.54
TD	23.89	8.70	9.58	2.70	2.27	8.33	5.67	10.25	8.08	4.50	126.26	73.76	52.50	378.78
Smith32	15.77	9.26	10.02	5.10	1.87	12.33	4.17	11.92	6.17	5.33	123.45	73.61	49.83	370.34
Wiggs	13.49	8.24	15.27	8.93	5.97	10.00	3.75	6.75	4.00	4.33	118.73	85.39	33.33	356.18

AVERAGE	19.15	10.10	13.39	9.19	3.85	8.62	6.50	11.34	7.02	5.45	142.95	87.78	55.17

And here's a breakdown of how far above or below the average you are.

	QB	RB	WR	TE	W/T	PK	DL	LB	DB	IDP	Total	Offense	Defense
Holt	6.44	1.47	4.21	2.41	0.48	-0.29	6.08	-0.59	-2.94	2.05	27.58	20.41	7.16
Ghostwood	11.19	1.92	1.78	-8.26	1.55	0.05	-2.92	0.91	2.15	0.72	12.92	11.93	1.00
Promize	-0.48	-1.65	0.41	7.77	4.02	2.38	-0.08	0.08	0.81	-0.78	12.06	11.23	0.83
twilson	-0.75	2.65	1.54	-0.83	-1.68	-3.62	2.92	2.24	-1.85	-1.78	6.33	1.50	4.83
s R	0.45	0.97	0.00	0.81	0.38	-0.29	-0.33	-1.17	3.40	-1.28	5.78	3.29	2.50
Guru	0.36	2.07	-0.69	-0.73	-0.95	-3.95	0.17	0.74	2.88	-1.01	4.06	-2.51	6.56
I_AM_CANADIAN	-5.21	-3.36	0.21	10.74	-0.52	1.71	0.00	0.24	0.90	1.05	3.77	0.44	3.33
Kyle	2.56	-2.13	-0.36	1.31	1.08	2.71	-1.25	1.91	-0.71	0.89	3.48	2.69	0.79
Khahan	0.48	4.44	-2.02	-1.09	-2.52	-1.29	0.67	-0.92	-0.44	0.05	-0.92	0.41	-1.34
Bonka	-2.50	-1.71	-0.49	-1.06	-0.28	-1.95	-1.17	1.91	-0.27	2.05	-7.20	-10.19	3.00
youngroman	-8.24	-0.56	0.70	-0.23	-0.12	-0.29	1.83	-0.26	-1.10	0.22	-7.44	-8.60	1.16
TD	4.74	-1.40	-3.80	-6.49	-1.58	-0.29	-0.83	-1.09	1.06	-0.95	-16.69	-14.02	-2.67
Smith32	-3.38	-0.84	-3.37	-4.09	-1.98	3.71	-2.33	0.58	-0.85	-0.11	-19.50	-14.17	-5.34
Wiggs	-5.66	-1.86	1.88	-0.26	2.12	1.38	-2.75	-4.59	-3.02	-1.11	-24.22	-2.39	-21.84

Khahan
Donor
ID: 39432178
Tue, Sep 24, 2013, 13:12

Amazing - out of my 3 leagues I considered this the weakest at RB. And in this league I figured RB for me would be one of the lowest. Will be great if I can maintain that rb status thru the season AND if my WR can get up to where I think they should be. But really McCoy has been a beast and BJGE has propped that up with some nice TD's. Not a lot of yardage. Dont think my rb's have the makings to sustain that kind of average unfortunately.

Kyle
Sustainer
ID: 052753312
Wed, Oct 02, 2013, 10:22

Is anyone else having troubles getting into MFL? I tried to go and update my waiver bid and I'm getting internal errors basically when I do anything...

Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Oct 02, 2013, 10:25

Yes - I see that too. It is apparently impacting the entire site. I don't know how long this may last, and whether any adjustments can be made regarding waiver processing. We'll have to see.

Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Wed, Oct 02, 2013, 11:18

Yeah, I had planned to do any waiver claims this morning but looks like that might not happen. Hopefully there's nobody I really wanted. Good chance that waivers go off with only some teams having their claims in.

Promize
ID: 537541810
Wed, Oct 02, 2013, 11:37

They just tweeted that they are aware of the issue.... yoddie yoddiee as soon as possible.

Toral
Leader
ID: 2111201313
Wed, Oct 02, 2013, 11:44

They're back up! Pick fast!

Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Oct 02, 2013, 11:53

I just pushed back the blind bidding deadline to 2pm ET. Hopefully it worked!

FCFS add/drops will still start at 3pm ET

Kyle
Sustainer
ID: 052753312
Wed, Oct 02, 2013, 11:57

I just got in and put my in and was coming to say "Get those picks in fast". Thanks for pushing it back Guru! :)

I_AM_CANADIAN
Sustainer
ID: 01361448
Fri, Oct 04, 2013, 09:25

Finally a week were at least 1RB really steps up WHILE I have him starting. It had been a bad start for my RBs so far.

Judy
ID: 54203110
Mon, Oct 07, 2013, 22:39

5.2 from 4 receivers, 20 from the PK. Seriously?

Khahan
Donor
ID: 39432178
Tue, Oct 08, 2013, 09:04

Ugh. Just ugh.

Judy
ID: 54203110
Fri, Oct 11, 2013, 17:41

Eagles -- Bucs might not play due to MRSA in Bucs locker room. Good idea, buti hope they decide in time for lineup adjustments...

Judy
ID: 54203110
Sun, Oct 13, 2013, 20:06

And my wides and TE come through again with 5.2 so far with garçon left...

Sheesh.

Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Mon, Oct 14, 2013, 17:01

My team's having a rough time this year staying in the hunt, definitely didn't need this Cobb injury. Just glad he'll hopefully be back at some point.

Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Mon, Oct 14, 2013, 18:18

Or 6-8 weeks, yeah I'm screwed.

Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Sun, Oct 20, 2013, 19:36

Cutler getting hurt instead of starting Wilson could doom my entire season when it comes to the points battle, especially combined with Cobb and Cushing. Clearly not my year.

Judy
ID: 54203110
Sun, Oct 20, 2013, 19:59

On schedule to lose all my games this week... Ugh. No body stepped up unless they were on my bench (ex: Helu).

Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Mon, Oct 21, 2013, 15:50

Bad week for injuries and there's still 1 game to go.

I_AM_CANADIAN
Sustainer
ID: 01361448
Wed, Oct 23, 2013, 12:09

FYI - I'll be listening to offers if anyone needs an RB. I'm looking for similarly valued WR.

Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Oct 23, 2013, 12:38

I'm really benefiting from scheduling this year. I rank only 7th in points, but my average pts against of 126.5 are second lowest in the league.

Hoping the law of averages doesn't catch up with me. My all-play record (48-43) suggests I should be only 7-7 or 8-6. Yet my "power rank" is #3 - which I don't really understand. I guess that's largely because of my actual 10-4 record.

Khahan
Donor
ID: 39432178
Wed, Oct 23, 2013, 15:05

Ok, I got the rb I put in for this week but I also put in for a new TE and a new QB. I don't see where chandler or smith went to anybody else so why aren't they on my team?

Khahan
Donor
ID: 39432178
Wed, Oct 23, 2013, 15:08

Note: I was able to do this thru FA and saved some $$ that way, but I obviously did something wrong in my bidding process. I had 3 bids in. Each bid I was dropping a different player.

Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Wed, Oct 23, 2013, 15:43

You only have one round of waivers and you only get 1 player per round.

Khahan
Donor
ID: 39432178
Wed, Oct 23, 2013, 16:43

There's some major disconnect here, then. Looking over the logs, Guru got 2 picks this week during the waiver period.

On Wed Oct 9, you got 2 picks (lawrence timmons and vincent brown).

There's examples every week of people getting multiple waiver picks.

So its possible. I'm asking what am I doing wrong that my waiver requests are clumping up and I'm only getting 1 when others are getting 2.

Judy
ID: 54203110
Wed, Oct 23, 2013, 22:30

See 75. You only get one pick per round, so if you want three guys you gotta set up three rounds...

Khahan
ID: 16341313
Thu, Oct 24, 2013, 00:06

I'll have to wait until next time waivers are available to see what I'm missing.

Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Sun, Oct 27, 2013, 14:14

Guess I should have stayed with Stills instead of Gibson...

Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Sun, Oct 27, 2013, 15:58

Yep, Stills. Sigh. I can't get anything right this year.

Judy
ID: 54203110
Sun, Oct 27, 2013, 16:22

Note to chip kelly:

The goal line is north south. The sidelines are east west...

Guru
ID: 330592710
Sun, Oct 27, 2013, 20:54

[74-76] We are using conditional blind bidding, which means that you set up your bids in groups. Within a grouping, your bids are evaluated from top to bottom. Once an award is made, the rest of the grouping is discarded.

So, if you want multiple players, you must set them up in multiple groups.

For more of an explanation, see this:
mfl help page

holt
Donor
ID: 308491916
Tue, Oct 29, 2013, 00:01

21 points for the Mighty Quinn. Helped me salvage a win out of pretty crappy week. If anyone has a QB they'd like to move, let me know. This Eagles QB crap is getting old.

Khahan
Donor
ID: 39432178
Tue, Oct 29, 2013, 08:59

I again break the 150 barrier but still walk away with a lose. If it wasn't for bad luck..

Interesting night for me. I run 3 teams, this one, a money league and a fun office league. In the fun office league I was holding onto a 14 point lead coming into Monday and I had a narrow lead in this league. Then Russel Wilson throws a bomb to Golden Tate who is covered by Janoris Jenkins. Jenkins who I had going JUST missed intercepting that ball. Instead it was caught by Golden Tate who my opponent here had going...to give him the win and my opponent in the fun league had Wilson and that bomb...gave him the win. Ugh. Can I call a mulligan?

Kyle
Sustainer
ID: 052753312
Wed, Oct 30, 2013, 13:19

I'm not sure how my team is still doing this. My WRs are just barely passable, and my kicker is outscoring all but one of them. My RBs are a hodgepodge of backups who are doing just well enough and my 2nd round pick has be injured and fumbling all season. The guy who I drafted to be the backbone of my defense is sitting in rehab. And I'm entering the week I thought would be my bye week hell with out any real roster dilemmas... This said I'm the second highest scoring team in the league and I'm baffled. The luck is going to wear off soon I imagine, but hopefully it's lasted just long enough to make the playoffs.

@Holt Do you have any interest in Tannehill? Double digit points week in and week out. Not super exciting, but steady. He's cheap to get.

@Khahan I was at trivia on Monday night with the game on only one TV because around here the Blackhawks and World Series were on the other 4 TVs. I was literally jumping up and down when I realized the penalty was taunting and the TD was going to count. Before that play you were still up 2 points.

Kyle
Sustainer
ID: 052753312
Wed, Oct 30, 2013, 14:47

BTW here's the stats after week 8.

	QB	RB	WR	TE	W/T	PK	DL	LB	DB	IDP	Total	Offense	Defense	Totals
Holt	17.24	15.34	14.79	10.66	4.26	9.88	10.31	10.56	6.99	5.69	163.71	102.29	61.41	1309.64
Kyle	22.65	10.12	11.45	8.63	3.46	10.00	6.94	14.59	6.48	7.06	150.96	87.88	63.09	1207.70
Guru	18.26	12.25	13.21	6.88	3.28	6.50	7.44	11.25	7.60	3.91	142.32	85.83	56.49	1138.54
twilson	14.53	11.35	13.26	7.80	4.10	9.38	6.16	10.63	8.25	4.13	139.21	85.02	54.19	1113.66
TD	20.27	11.36	12.29	5.55	2.76	9.25	7.63	10.00	7.13	4.31	138.94	85.13	53.81	1111.52
youngroman	14.69	10.36	14.97	7.41	4.61	7.75	7.56	9.81	7.13	4.56	138.68	85.11	53.56	1109.40
Bonka	14.48	9.68	12.93	11.80	2.93	6.75	6.09	11.91	6.51	6.81	137.01	81.18	55.83	1096.06
Promize	19.95	7.15	12.14	10.98	6.11	11.00	5.38	10.81	5.83	5.75	136.39	86.62	49.78	1091.12
s R	20.96	13.78	10.65	5.83	2.53	9.75	5.72	8.91	7.31	4.38	136.17	87.92	48.25	1089.38
I_AM_CANADIAN	12.95	8.83	12.35	12.29	4.40	9.14	6.75	10.31	7.06	5.19	134.57	81.13	53.44	1076.52
Ghostwood	27.15	10.59	10.24	2.05	3.98	8.13	3.16	11.28	8.00	5.13	132.97	82.96	50.00	1063.72
Smith32	18.64	9.00	10.14	7.64	2.73	11.38	5.22	12.47	6.28	5.44	132.02	78.65	53.38	1056.18
Khahan	18.66	10.46	10.97	4.98	3.54	6.88	5.25	11.16	5.91	6.50	128.04	76.92	51.13	1024.34
Wiggs	16.10	6.78	13.48	7.75	4.96	7.38	4.25	11.78	4.68	4.25	122.37	76.70	45.68	978.96

AVERAGE	18.32	10.50	12.35	7.87	3.83	8.80	6.27	11.10	6.80	5.22	138.10	84.52	53.57	1104.77

	QB	RB	WR	TE	W/T	PK	DL	LB	DB	IDP	Total	Offense	Defense	Totals
Holt	-1.08	4.84	2.44	2.79	0.43	1.08	4.04	-0.54	0.19	0.47	25.61	17.77	7.84	204.87
Kyle	4.32	-0.38	-0.89	0.75	-0.37	1.20	0.66	3.49	-0.32	1.84	12.87	3.35	9.51	102.93
Guru	-0.07	1.75	0.86	-1.00	-0.56	-2.30	1.16	0.15	0.80	-1.31	4.22	1.31	2.91	33.77
twilson	-3.79	0.85	0.91	-0.07	0.27	0.58	-0.12	-0.48	1.45	-1.10	1.11	0.50	0.61	8.89
TD	1.94	0.85	-0.05	-2.32	-1.07	0.45	1.35	-1.10	0.33	-0.91	0.84	0.60	0.24	6.75
youngroman	-3.63	-0.15	2.62	-0.46	0.78	-1.05	1.29	-1.29	0.33	-0.66	0.58	0.59	-0.01	4.63
Bonka	-3.84	-0.82	0.58	3.93	-0.91	-2.05	-0.18	0.80	-0.29	1.59	-1.09	-3.35	2.26	-8.71
Promize	1.63	-3.35	-0.21	3.10	2.28	2.20	-0.90	-0.29	-0.97	0.53	-1.71	2.09	-3.80	-13.65
s R	2.64	3.28	-1.70	-2.05	-1.31	0.95	-0.56	-2.20	0.52	-0.85	-1.92	3.40	-5.32	-15.39
I_AM_CANADIAN	-5.37	-1.67	0.00	4.41	0.57	0.34	0.48	-0.79	0.27	-0.03	-3.53	-3.40	-0.14	-28.25
Ghostwood	8.82	0.09	-2.10	-5.82	0.14	-0.67	-3.12	0.18	1.20	-0.10	-5.13	-1.56	-3.57	-41.05
Smith32	0.32	-1.51	-2.21	-0.24	-1.11	2.58	-1.06	1.36	-0.52	0.22	-6.07	-5.88	-0.20	-48.59
Khahan	0.33	-0.04	-1.38	-2.90	-0.29	-1.92	-1.02	0.05	-0.89	1.28	-10.05	-7.61	-2.45	-80.43
Wiggs	-2.23	-3.73	1.13	-0.12	1.13	-1.42	-2.02	0.68	-2.12	-0.97	-15.73	-7.83	-7.90	-125.81

Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Wed, Oct 30, 2013, 15:02

Figures, was going to pick up Clark but didn't think I had to actually rush him immediately. Could have easily had him first. Hope he's useless now :)

Kyle
Sustainer
ID: 052753312
Wed, Oct 30, 2013, 16:31

Despite Judy averaging 2 points from the TE position this is the first week she cracked the 2 point mark, by putting up a whopping 10.8 points, or double the points the position put up for her through 7 weeks.

Judy
ID: 54203110
Wed, Oct 30, 2013, 22:57

My whole receiving core stinks... Can't get anybody to catch anything! Team is sinking fast...

Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Oct 31, 2013, 13:01

We had a situation in one of the AAA leagues yesterday that warrants some consideration.

A manager submitted a waiver claim through his cell phone interface. Apparently, the dropped player was inadvertently set as Vernon Davis instead of a lesser player. I've heard that the phone interface for MFL is very difficult to use, so while I think it could have been avoided with proper care, I know that errors made through smartphone transactions have happened before.

In this case, another manager made provisions to add Davis immediately at the end of the lockout period (3pm ET). The error was caught later in the day and reversed, but some hard feelings have been created.

Once upon a time, we did require all dropped players to go through a separate waiver process, which would have allowed for extra time to correct this type of mistake before other managers were able to react. Unfortunately, with a blind bidding waivers process, this isn't possible.

There is an option to implement a "Can't cut" list. It's supposedly maintained by fantasysharks.com. I don't know who's on it.

We could implement a lockout period for all dropped players. Perhaps anyone dropped is locked until Thursday at 3pm (or some such time). That would allow for dropped player errors during claims processing to be resolved. Perhaps something to consider for next year (or even this year). Claims processing is the only time that a player can be dropped when the manager isn't necessarily online at the time.

We could also subject all dropped players (at any time) to a one (or more) day lockout period. In that case, I think the locked players are released just after midnight (not sure what time zone that's using.) It would also mean that players dropped on game day could not be picked up prior to the following week's blind bidding. It was mostly for that reason that we decided not to put dropped players through a lockout period. But maybe something to at least cover blind bidding drops makes sense.

Any reactions?

I_AM_CANADIAN
Sustainer
ID: 01361448
Thu, Oct 31, 2013, 14:20

I've already voiced my opinion enough on the other board I think, one thing I think I'd like to add:

Is that we should temper our expectations. This site is mainly made FOR FUN. I have no issues with that myself, if wanted a different experience, I could play in a "pay league".

Khahan
Donor
ID: 39432178
Thu, Oct 31, 2013, 15:50

As a mainly fantasy baseball player my mindset is, "Player dropped goes to waivers." It seems odd to me that players dont go to waivers when they are dropped.

Letter_J
ID: 439293113
Thu, Oct 31, 2013, 16:30

Re Khahan,

That used to happen. And players would be locked. And then some figured out that cycling through players began to lock a player and would prevent another owner from being able to pick them up.

Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Thu, Oct 31, 2013, 20:55

Should be on the owner to make sure their waivers are correct. It shows you what you submitted on the next page and you can always go back in and check at any time. I can understand if someone makes a mistake and immediately says something if it isn't reversible by them, such as when I dropped Mario Williams accidentally by having multiple waiver windows open which causes issues. I was able to pick him back up quickly, but if someone else had picked him up in the couple seconds he was available I'm ok with a situation like that being fixed. Submitting incorrect waivers then still not noticing you dropped Vernon Davis in the 3 hours after waivers run isn't something the commish should have to fix.

Don't like can't cut lists since a slow update could really hinder someone for making a pickup to replace an injury.

Could go back to locking players when they're dropped. I forget what limitations the MFL software has in handling that. Assuming you can, would just be easiest to set each player lock individually for 1 day rather than trying to have everyone unlock at the same time every day. It's a mess trying to set up and have run correctly. So much easier the way it is.

Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Nov 01, 2013, 11:49

We could use a 24-hour lockout for dropped players. I confirmed with MFL that the time limit is applied based on the actual time, so if a player is dropped at 3:05 Wednesday, he can be added at 3:05 Thursday. It would still be first come, first served at that point.

As Letter_J noted, with a similar setup in past years, we did have issues with players who were added and then dropped within 24 hours of game time, effectively taking them out of the pool until the following week's waivers. That is one reason that we went to the current practice of no lockout.

mjd
ID: 9811120
Fri, Nov 01, 2013, 15:21

Not a fan of the lockout, but their should be some sort of time limitation for transaction reversals. Say if you dropped the wrong guy in blind bidding, if you don't say something before FCFS at 3 PM on Wed, well tough luck.

That gives someone 3 hours to notice their mistake and could be corrected before FCFS. Of course if someone changes their mind after blind bidding they could just say "Oops, dropped the wrong guy", but I'd prefer to think that no one would resort to that.

Letter J
ID: 447421411
Fri, Nov 01, 2013, 16:47

So now my commish chimes in and understands my position. This whole thing has left a VERY bad taste in my mouth.

Are you kidding me?? If it's another manager, is it a different ruling??

Letter J
ID: 447421411
Fri, Nov 01, 2013, 16:48

I was done, and I had moved on. But now I'm getting pissed off...

holt
Donor
ID: 308491916
Fri, Nov 01, 2013, 17:41

I've been trying to be polite about this situation but I'm increasingly irritated with every post. You're pissed because you didn't get the 2nd best TE in fantasy football due to an erroneous drop. Beautiful. I'd rather win a league based on skill, not on some gift. You would have basically traded no one to Fugazi for Vernon Davis. I'm sure the rest of the league would be cool with a trade of No One for Vernon Davis. Only a noob fantasy player would think anyone intentionally drops V Davis. It doesn't happen. Maybe in some terrible public yahoo league but not around here.

So, either your position is "Screw you to anyone who drops the wrong player - drop P Manning? So sad for you", or "Fugazi and Holt are full of crap and Fugazi is so moronic that he cut Vernon Davis and then changed his mind the next day and lied to the commish to get his player back". Either way, super lame.

Not everyone sits around checking their rifc bidding claims and results every hour. The idea that someone should have an hour or two to report an hour is too restrictive. If someone accidentally cuts one of their best players, just fix it and move on. Normally there isn't so much whining involved.

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mjd
ID: 9811120
Fri, Nov 01, 2013, 17:41

J, I said from the very beginning that I saw your point on this and that whatever decision was made, someone would be unhappy, which is why I consulted Guru for a ruling.

That decision was made and is ancient history in my eyes. I'm just trying to help with a long term decision so this doesn't happen again.

101

Letter J
ID: 447421411
Fri, Nov 01, 2013, 18:05

I have been somewhat biting my tongue, but how the hell do you exactly know what your Bro meant do Holt?? He told you something, and you believed him. I accept that. But to say someone does not dump valuable players is naive.

And if I have two pet peeves; it's one, it was decided before anybody seemingly chimed in on it and explained why they felt a certain way because of Blind Bidding, and two, I'm having a hard time seeing how you miss press Turbin versus Davis.

If it's a WR, I might see it. Go to your team and try to dump a RB instead of a TE, even on a mobile home. And then confirm it. But to say afterwards, missed that one because of Turbin versus Davis seems illlogical.

102

Letter J
ID: 447421411
Fri, Nov 01, 2013, 18:10

I notice, holt, you are not discussing how your Bro confirmed the dump. But merely the accidental dump, like it would be in regular waiver.

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Letter J
ID: 447421411
Fri, Nov 01, 2013, 18:19

And of course I picked up Vernon Davis (being weak at TE), and am pissed off.

I have never been extended the same courtesy on a release, but I will keep it in mind in the future.

104

holt
Donor
ID: 308491916
Fri, Nov 01, 2013, 18:25

How do I know? Because we talk to each other about fantasy football almost every day, he's not a moron, and I was the one who got the phone call "CRAP - Davis isn't on my roster! I must have accidentally cut him! I'm trying to add him but it says unavailable. Post on Rotoguru for me because my phone is timing out". Unfortunately I was at Walmart getting a new tire installed and wasn't able to email Guru and MJD til I got home later. It took a while.

Can you imagine his draft rationale "5.06 Vernon Davis - Expecting big things. If he gets 13 points a game, I may even keep him on my squad through week 8. Unfortunately, it turns out he has a bye week this season. Can you believe it? A bye week! Because of his bye week, I'll have to drop him because I never seem to have any scrub RB's to cut or anything like that. It won't be any use to try to trade him. #2 TE's don't have much value so why bother? Hoping for a great 8 games from him!".

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Letter J
ID: 447421411
Fri, Nov 01, 2013, 18:27

Again, then why CONFIRM the dump??

106

Letter J
ID: 447421411
Fri, Nov 01, 2013, 18:31

Ugh. Like I said it's done. Fugazi, IAC, holt and I have been around these parts long enough.

But it's a piss off when you think you get shafted on one of these year after year.

107

Letter J
ID: 447421411
Fri, Nov 01, 2013, 18:33

And go to the site and try to dump a TE instead of a RB accidentally. Good luck with that. Even on a mobile phone.

108

holt
Donor
ID: 308491916
Fri, Nov 01, 2013, 18:36

Weak at TE or not, who wouldn't want him? He's f'in great.

1. Graham, Jimmy NOS TE 15.857
2. Davis, Vernon SFO TE 13.400
3. Cameron, Jordan CLE TE 11.950
4. Thomas, Julius DEN TE 11.638
5. Daniels, Owen HOU TE 8.840

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Letter J
ID: 447421411
Fri, Nov 01, 2013, 18:40

I see you're not answering the real Q

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Letter J
ID: 447421411
Fri, Nov 01, 2013, 18:42

The real questions being why CONFIRM the dump, and try to accidentally dump DAVIS for Turbin. Again, good luck with that.

111

Letter J
ID: 447421411
Fri, Nov 01, 2013, 19:00

And as far as everyone wanting him, why were not they in on it???

112

Letter J
ID: 447421411
Fri, Nov 01, 2013, 19:11

And if your Bro, as you say, was so in tune with it, then why not be in on FCFS waivers.

Again, good luck with that.

113

weykool
ID: 474402717
Fri, Nov 01, 2013, 20:23

However this happened is 100% irrelevant.
The bottom line is one team picked up a star player for nothing.
If this was a trade it would need to be overturned.
The manner in how the "trade" was executed doesnt matter, it upsets the the competitive balance of the league.
Im a little surprised that a manager in a Rotoguru league would want to win a league by taking unfair advantage of the situation.

114

holt
Donor
ID: 308491916
Fri, Nov 01, 2013, 20:38

Why wasn't he in on FCFS waivers? Because he didn't log in to see the claims results til 4 pm cst, about 2 hours after FCFS begins. People have things to do other than monitor their fantasy teams throughout the day.

As far as other poeple not being in on it, you did pick him up at 2:00, most of the league probably doesn't check in during the 11am to 2 pm time period and had no idea, and the ones that did notice it probably knew it was an error and didn't bother scheduling around picking him up.

115

holt
Donor
ID: 308491916
Fri, Nov 01, 2013, 20:43

Why do you keep asking why he confirmed the dump? If you don't understand that accidents happen in this universe then I can't help you.

116

Letter J
ID: 447421411
Fri, Nov 01, 2013, 21:08

I keep asking because it's the linchpin of the argument, IMO.

Nice to see you are so objective and can't see it any other way.

117

Letter J
ID: 447421411
Fri, Nov 01, 2013, 21:10

Again, I think I am MORE bothered by the lack of an investigation.

118

Letter J
ID: 447421411
Fri, Nov 01, 2013, 21:11

And I believe our rules dictate that you monitor your team.

119

Letter J
ID: 447421411
Fri, Nov 01, 2013, 21:12

Again holt, TRY to dump the wrong RB for a TE. Be my guest.

120

holt
Donor
ID: 308491916
Fri, Nov 01, 2013, 22:10

Now that you mention it, I think it was actually his kicker D Akers that he had set to cut rather than Turbin. He had multiple adds set up with Akers as the guy to cut. To get Davis back on the roster they had to cut someone (Turbin) because Akers was already cut for Gipson. Additionally, one of his adds was WR D Davis, which may or may not have been part of the problem. I am also the only one in my family who doesn't have to wear glasses. Just sayin.

121

holt
Donor
ID: 308491916
Fri, Nov 01, 2013, 22:23

Logged in to his team to take a look at his claim requests. Looks like, if I'm reading correctly, he set up a couple rounds of claims. One round has DB Gipson for kicker Akers (along with a couple other moves). Then the round after it has Gipson for TE V Davis (along with one other move). So the cut was meant to be Gipson for Akers. The K is right next to the TE so this is where the misclick happened.

50. Fugazi Blind Bid Waiver Request

Add Davis, Drew ATL WR and drop Jackson, Malik DEN DE
Add Gipson, Tashaun CLE S and drop Akers, David DET PK
Add Novak, Nick SDC PK and drop Ihenacho, Duke DEN S

Tue Oct 29 5:16:47 a.m. CT 2013

Add Gipson, Tashaun CLE S and drop Davis, Vernon SFO TE
Add Novak, Nick SDC PK and drop Ihenacho, Duke DEN S

Tue Oct 29 5:17:34 a.m. CT 2013

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Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Fri, Nov 01, 2013, 23:57

Another solution to this is simply not opening FCFS until later in the day, probably at 9 or 10pm eastern. If there is a drop made in error, this is more than enough time to get the word out. There's no real reason we need FCFS throughout the day. Most of my other leagues run waivers Wednesday evening.

123

Guru
ID: 330592710
Sat, Nov 02, 2013, 11:59

[122] That may be the best solution. Locks out everything until everyone should have a chance to review the blind bidding results.

124

I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 57771615
Sat, Nov 02, 2013, 13:12

The issue I'm now worried about for the future is... Are we setting ourselves up for more similar issues? How about one's that are even less clear. I.e. Lineup decisions? This could turn into a slippery slope...as its easier to mess that up than the waivers IMHO

125

Judy
ID: 54203110
Sat, Nov 02, 2013, 14:10

123

I like that idea. I am usually out reffing from 2:30 to about 7 by the time I get home, so I can never do the FCFS in time. Maybe 8 or 9 pm EDT which is 5/6 PDT?

126

Judy
ID: 54203110
Sat, Nov 02, 2013, 14:12

124. I don't see an issue with lineups, as you can set them for the entire rest of the season today if you want to...I always try to set a tentative one on Tuesday and adjust it with waiver, FA and injury news throughout the week.

127

Judy
ID: 54203110
Sat, Nov 02, 2013, 21:31

Just watched "league of denial". Highly recommend it. I think the title should have been "league in denial" as the nfl powers that be still don't get it.

128

Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Sun, Nov 03, 2013, 15:29

Well, this is absolutely pathetic.

129

Khahan
ID: 16341313
Sun, Nov 03, 2013, 20:03

Not sure who to root for here in the last games of the week. In this league I'm against you with luck and Ty Hilton and a close match. In my other league I've got Hilton and am trying to come from behind.

And of course Smith has Trent Richardson in this league...and he's my RB in the league I have TY Hilton in.

130

I_AM_CANADIAN
Sustainer
ID: 01361448
Mon, Nov 04, 2013, 16:30

Reminder before we hit the trade deadline... I have a slight surplus in the RB dept. I'm willing to discus trades for a high-end WR

131

Khahan
Donor
ID: 39432178
Tue, Nov 05, 2013, 09:03

Wow, I really thought I had a chance with some GB WR to at least be competitive this week. But nothing. Nothing at all.

132

I_AM_CANADIAN
Sustainer
ID: 01361448
Thu, Nov 07, 2013, 12:36

Trade Announcement:

Promize MizzDawgs gave up:
Smith, Torrey BAL WR

I_AM_CANADIAN gave up:
James, Mike TBB RB

133

Promize
ID: 179302817
Thu, Nov 07, 2013, 12:50

Confirmed.

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holt
Donor
ID: 308491916
Sun, Nov 10, 2013, 16:23

Wow - that hail mary pass for the Bengals. Just knock the ball down, or let it fall. Even a high school player would get chewed out for that. Hilarious.

135

Judy
ID: 54203110
Sun, Nov 10, 2013, 17:50

Wonder if Igehidebo (sp?) gets a pass defenses for that error...

136

Judy
ID: 54203110
Sun, Nov 10, 2013, 21:50

I finally sit colston...could cost me...

137

Judy
ID: 54203110
Mon, Nov 11, 2013, 08:41

Hoping for no stat correction up for guru or down for me!

138

Khahan
Donor
ID: 39432178
Wed, Nov 13, 2013, 16:33

Guru, you had me by $1 on Leonard!

139

holt
Donor
ID: 308491916
Thu, Nov 28, 2013, 15:59

What are the post season add/drop rules?

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I_AM_CANADIAN
Sustainer
ID: 01361448
Fri, Nov 29, 2013, 11:13

RE 139:

http://rotoguru1.com/cgi-bin/read.pl?board=foot&thread=5482&last=1378329764

Blind bidding will continue throughout the playoffs. At the beginning of the playoffs, the top seeded team will receive an additional blind bidding allocation of $16, the second seed will receive $14, … with the 8th seed receiving $2. These allocations will be added to any balances remaining from the regular season. Any blind bidding ties during the playoffs will be awarded in favor of the better seeded team.

If a playoff game ends in a tie score, the team with the better seed shall advance.

There will be no restriction on player add/drop transactions for teams still active in the championship playoffs. Teams which are not still active in the Championship playoffs may not make any transactions - adds or drops - even if they are still competing in the Consolation bracket.

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holt
Donor
ID: 308491916
Fri, Nov 29, 2013, 16:49

Thanks. Seems like we used to have some very strict restrictions on adds/drops during the playoffs. This current system seems pretty good.

142

Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Dec 02, 2013, 21:18

I'll work on seeding the playoffs tomorrow morning. Remember that the top six teams in W/L record advance, as well as the two other teams with the most points. Then the bottom four seeds (5-8) are re-seeded based on total points.

The six teams not advancing to the championship round will be placed in a consolation bracket.

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Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Tue, Dec 03, 2013, 00:00

Missed the top 6 thanks to my week 7 loss by .42 when Cutler and Cushing both got hurt. I think I got the last spot, but now I have to win it all to come back :(

144

Khahan
ID: 16341313
Tue, Dec 03, 2013, 00:19

My god. I score the 4th most points on the week and still go 0-2. I had a few bad weeks in there, but around them I felt my scores were pretty solid but my matchups really sucked.

Less than a full point difference between me and smith for total points scored but a 5 W difference in our records. Wiggs and I really stood out above most other teams for total points against. I think a bit of luck in the schedule helped me last year, but it certainly didn't care much for me this year!

Just a frustrating season but at least I have the consolation bracket to play in another week.

145

Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Dec 03, 2013, 10:05

Playoff brackets have now been set up.

Championship bracket seeding:
1 Holt
2 Guru
3 twilson
4 TD
5 Kyle
6 IAC
7 Bonka
8 s R

Note: sR ranked #5 in the regular standings, but was dropped to the 8th seed based on points. IAC and Bonka get the two "wild card" spots. Youngroman gets the "close but no cigar award", missing the last playoff spot by only 12.36 pts, less than a point per week.

Blind bidding values have been adjusted to award an extra $16 to the top seed, $14 to the #2 seed, ... $2 to the #8 seed.

The other 6 teams have been placed in the consolation bracket. The first round consolation bracket loser with the most points scored in that first round game will advance to round two, in order to preserve an even number of teams. The pairings in the second round will be adjusted if needed to avoid a rematch of a first-round game.

Teams that are not alive in the championship bracket may not add or drop players for the remainder of the season. Add/drop/waivers will continue as usual for the teams still alive in the Championship bracket.

Note: It is possible that Thursday morning statistical corrections will cause a seeding adjustment, particularly as IAC and Bonka are only separated by 0.48 points for the #6-#7 seeds. Any other shifts in seeding seems rather implausible - but we'll find out on Thursday.

Please let me know if anything appears to be improperly set up.

Can anyone knock off the Holt juggernaut?

146

Kyle
Sustainer
ID: 052753312
Tue, Dec 03, 2013, 17:08

Damn, I was really hoping Brees and Tate could have a better game so I could avoid this 4-5 situation. I don't want to play Holt next round.

147

Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Dec 04, 2013, 11:14

Holt's team had an "all-play" winning percentage against eventual playoff teams of 83.5%.

If we assume that for each playoff game he has an 83.5% chance of winning, then his statistical probability of winning the playoffs is 58%. (calculated as .835^3)

As I noted in yesterday's blurb, the #1 seed has only won the RIFC playoffs once in 9 years. But I don't think we've ever had such a dominating performance in the regular season before.

148

Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Wed, Dec 04, 2013, 22:08

Holt's team needs to be tested for PEDs.

149

Judy
ID: 54203110
Wed, Dec 04, 2013, 23:06

Darn it. Another disappointing season with the big boys. Can't seem to stay there. Sigh. At least I didn't finish in last place this time...

Nice job -- so far -- holt.

150

I_AM_CANADIAN
Sustainer
ID: 01361448
Thu, Dec 05, 2013, 09:54

RE 149: Agreed. It's a competitive league. It's one of the main reasons I keep coming back.

151

Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Dec 05, 2013, 10:50

Wow - we actually did get a scoring adjustment that impacted the playoff seedings.

For IAC, Daryl Smith gained a pass defensed, but Philip Wheeler lost a half sack and a QB hit. Net change was a loss of 1 point. But that drops IAC to 0.52 behind Bonka, instead of 0.48 ahead.

So, Bonka moves up to the #6 seed, and IAC drops to the #7 seed.

Will be interesting to see if this changes the outcomes of any of this weekend's games.

152

holt
Donor
ID: 308491916
Fri, Dec 06, 2013, 06:38

Thanks Judy. I don't like the way this week is starting out. SR gets a couple TD's on Thursday night and I get a weak 7 from JJ Watt. Can't say I enjoyed the Jags Texans game too much.

153

Judy
ID: 54203110
Fri, Dec 06, 2013, 08:29

Holt, your Foles pickup was a good one. I grabbed him last year as a homer flyer for G24 and now that chip has said he is the starter for the next 1000 years, I should be set... Teehee. Your team is loaded.

154

holt
Donor
ID: 308491916
Fri, Dec 06, 2013, 15:45

Another 7 TD performance would be sweet. I'm lucky to have him on my team. I either got him real cheap or got him as a FA.

155

Judy
ID: 54203110
Fri, Dec 06, 2013, 19:26

I think it will be a low scoring ground game day. Weather expected to be wet, maybe snowy and cold...

156

Judy
ID: 54203110
Sun, Dec 08, 2013, 21:59

So now my players especially the wides, decide to show up.

Thanks guys...

157

Khahan
ID: 16341313
Mon, Dec 09, 2013, 02:03

I know the feeling Judy.

158

youngroman
ID: 141138212
Mon, Dec 09, 2013, 03:56

1st playoff week and it seems that up to 4 non-playoff teams outscore all 8 playoff teams. what are the odds for that to happen?

159

I_AM_CANADIAN
Sustainer
ID: 01361448
Mon, Dec 09, 2013, 09:53

RE 158: Not quite. I've still got a player still to go, and so do other active teams. This week isn't locked-up just yet. Heck, even last week, it wasn't locked up till re-calculations on Thursday! Was a interesting first week of the playoffs for sure.

160

Kyle
Sustainer
ID: 052753312
Mon, Dec 09, 2013, 13:11

I love leaving 50.8 points on the bench... Luckily it looks like it won't cost me the win, I still wish I could have had those so I could feel more secure. If Alshon has a game like last week, I'm in huge trouble.

I know I'm rooting for Forte to have a repeat of Week 10, sorry Holt.

161

holt
Donor
ID: 308491916
Mon, Dec 09, 2013, 17:59

Yeah I need 9 points or so from Forte. Bad time to have worst week of the season. At least I have a chance of winning though. It was looking pretty bleak through the first half of the first set of games yesterday. Losing Gronk stinks too. Was a rough day yesterday.

I would have lost to 4 of the 6 teams in the consolation brackets.

162

wiggs
ID: 431010618
Tue, Dec 10, 2013, 01:13

I want to apologize for my performance this season. I believe there were a couple things going against me this season, not that any are a legit excuse and I feel terrible I played so poorly.

1st of all the birth of my twins were exactly when the draft started, and although I had many people who helped me with keeping up on the draft I didnt prepare the way I should have.

2nd of all I feel like every team I played this season had the game of their season. Just bad luck.

Anyways, I will be back next season playing AAA and I am planning on returning to play with you all again in another season. Thanks for having me. Good luck to everyone still playing

Wiggs

163

Khahan
ID: 16341313
Tue, Dec 10, 2013, 08:12

yeah, looks like its back to AAA for me too (was obvious a while ago). I screwed myself in the draft. That's where all my problems began.

164

Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Dec 10, 2013, 09:13

If the seedings hadn't been adjusted last week based on the Thursday scoring adjustments, I'd have advanced. But that created the only first round matchup that would beat me. Argh.

The nature of the beast. Year after year.

In the consolation bracket, Promize advances as the losing team with the best score of the first round. In order to prevent a repeat matchup for this week, I had to restack the games in that bracket. So the top seed (Youngroman) now faces Promize, and Khahan faces Judy.

165

I_AM_CANADIAN
Sustainer
ID: 01361448
Tue, Dec 10, 2013, 10:04

RE 164: I was really scared to be matched up against you. I don't know what our VS record is, but I know it's MUCH lower that my overall records in the RIFC.

166

Kyle
Sustainer
ID: 052753312
Tue, Dec 10, 2013, 14:40

RE: 161

When your worst week is still good enough for 6th best score in the league, you know your team is ridiculous.

This is the first time since 2009 (and before then I don't know where league histories are) that I've won a playoff game in an RIFC league. Luckily I've made the playoffs and been able to move up in 2011 and 2012.

167

I_AM_CANADIAN
Sustainer
ID: 01361448
Tue, Dec 17, 2013, 09:40

Wow, close matchup... less than 2 points! Enjoy the championship game!

168

Judy
ID: 54203110
Tue, Dec 17, 2013, 18:00

Why did my team wait until after the regular season to start playing ball? Second highest score this week...

169

I_AM_CANADIAN
Sustainer
ID: 01361448
Wed, Dec 18, 2013, 09:38

Suggestion for next year:

Move Waiver day to Thursday instead of Wednesday (during the playoffs). Considering that we've had some close calls, and it could affect who is still "in it" or not, and thus, whether they should be bidding or not.

I'll be watching to see tomorrow's scoring adjustments, as there have been significant adjustments the last few weeks, and the score differential was under 2 points.

170

Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Dec 18, 2013, 10:28

Probably a good idea. Hopefully we'll remember.

171

Judy
ID: 54203110
Tue, Dec 24, 2013, 09:19

Congrats to holt. A thorough beat down all season!

172

I_AM_CANADIAN
Sustainer
ID: 01361448
Tue, Dec 24, 2013, 09:56

Congrats Holt! Much deserved.

If only wish I had made it through last round...

173

youngroman
ID: 141138212
Tue, Dec 24, 2013, 15:02

congratulations Holt. you were dominant all season and destroyed all of us. a well deserved win.

I just checked and with 9 more points in the regular season and I would be the RIFC champion now. with 10 regular season points more I would be have been runner up. So it is back to AAA where I try my best to be back a year later. see you then.

174

holt
Donor
ID: 308491916
Tue, Dec 24, 2013, 19:14

Thanks Judy, YR, IAC. Was a fun, lucky, and fairly disaster-free season. Was hoping my brother could pull off a win in AAA2 but his team had it's worst week of the season. Think he scored 110 after averaging 152 in the regular season.

The week 16 results seemed pretty atypical across the board(low scoring). I don't know if it was more due to people not setting lineups or to weird things happening in the NFL. We have a small money league here in Enid and were discussing maybe having the season end in week 15. Kind of early but week 16 is starting to feel like the wrong time to decide a league champ.

In roto baseball - if you have a great team then you'll just win. But fantasy football, in week 16 you're at the mercy of a lot factors you have no control over. Guess there is no good answer. Leagues that play through week 17 are just nuts.

Congrats to everyone who qualified for RIFC next season. Dave Hall - thanks as always. We all appreciate everything you do. Merry Christmas.

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