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Subject: Gurupie 24 Season 13 (2014)


  Posted by: Ref - [55156513] Tue, Sep 02, 2014, 10:14

Waivers are on and it's time to rock!
 
1Ref
      ID: 55156513
      Tue, Sep 02, 2014, 10:29
I'm in the market for a QB. Hit me up if you want to move a starter.
 
3Judy
      ID: 54203110
      Tue, Sep 02, 2014, 22:34
Probably not a good sign when the player page for your player does not have his photo up yet...
My team is just awful. I had a horrific draft...still have 2 PK!!!
Anybody want Shane graham for a 2015 slight upgrade??
 
4Judy
      ID: 54203110
      Tue, Sep 02, 2014, 22:39
However this is what MFL said (based just on picks, not keepers): Coach judy michel had a impressive draft in the recent 2014 2014 G24 draft. Their Arizona Cardinals franchise came away with the number 5 ranked draft (out of 24) in the league based on analysis by MyFantasyLeague.com.

Got this part right though -- and they don't even know I have Foles too! Arizona Cardinals is a shameless Philadelphia homer, selecting 3 of his 11 draft picks from the Eagles.


 
5youngroman
      ID: 57047243
      Wed, Sep 03, 2014, 05:29
this recap is poor because it does not take into account the keepers. it simply compares the value of each draft pick with the value of the average draft pick of your players. it also ignores that we are a keeper league.

I like the weekly preview more. based on this I should crush the opposition this week. of course that means that I will likely go 0-2.
 
6GO
      ID: 344132921
      Wed, Sep 03, 2014, 07:34
Yeah, that is pretty weak. Compare to the Yahoo ones which are top notch and talk about who you kept and their impact etc.
 
7GO
      ID: 344132921
      Wed, Sep 03, 2014, 07:36
The video thing on the weekly matchups is pretty sweet. Shame my computer is in shambles right now with no sound card.
 
8Building 7
      ID: 2011541213
      Wed, Sep 03, 2014, 13:54
Now I understand why we no longer offer a degree in journalism.

 
9Judy
      ID: 54203110
      Wed, Sep 03, 2014, 18:01
GO. Where is the video thingie?
 
10GO
      ID: 344132921
      Wed, Sep 03, 2014, 19:50
I have no idea how to find it on my own but its in youngromans second link. That MFL site is just a maze of links.
 
11Ref
      ID: 55156513
      Fri, Sep 05, 2014, 09:09
GO, 0 points for Sherman. That's why he was still there so late. Not much of a steal now, eh? ;)
 
12GO
      ID: 065299
      Fri, Sep 05, 2014, 09:36
Yeah, well obviously he's gonna get Revis'd all year as expected... but who would call him a steal other than the terrible draft analysis that MFL offered?

But I don't expect much from the 437th player chosen. He only played cause Teo was questionable. He's second in line to be cut after Sims and was autopicked for me.
 
13Ref
      ID: 55156513
      Fri, Sep 05, 2014, 10:02
Yeah, I was just going off of your draft comments on the MFL draft site. Just having some fun.
 
14GO
      ID: 065299
      Fri, Sep 05, 2014, 10:08
I know I know... Madden jinxed! I assume based on my other draft comments you got the sarcasm. I think we've confirmed nobody reads other peoples comments cause I had some epic ones.
 
15GO
      ID: 344132921
      Sat, Sep 06, 2014, 21:53
I'm looking to buy a RB and/or WR. All draft picks available. Get an extra shot in the Mariotta and Winston lottery!
 
16Slizz
      ID: 227222719
      Sun, Sep 07, 2014, 01:38
Mr. Gurley would like a word...
 
17Tree
      ID: 11833711
      Sun, Sep 07, 2014, 12:33
hmmmm....
 
18GO
      ID: 344132921
      Sun, Sep 07, 2014, 14:14
I wonder if the Eagles fans around here are still predicting 13 wins.
 
19GO
      ID: 344132921
      Sun, Sep 07, 2014, 17:12
Anyone changed the skin or format of the scoring pages in any way? they are brutal to read.
 
20Judy
      ID: 54203110
      Sun, Sep 07, 2014, 20:35
You can change your own...

I will work on it next week so make it softer...
 
21Judy
      ID: 54203110
      Sun, Sep 07, 2014, 20:36
D johnson LB. = one keeper out for the season...
 
23GO
      ID: 065299
      Mon, Sep 08, 2014, 10:02
I forgot about this deal where you can't set up waiver claims til tomorrow. Well I'm going to be busy all day tomorrow. ugh.
 
24beastiemiked
      ID: 5911312710
      Mon, Sep 08, 2014, 22:08
Anybody want Ray Rice? Can't believe they are indefinitely suspending him now. They should've just done that from the start. He dragged his unconscious GF out of the elevator. How the hell do they think she became unconscious?
 
25GO
      ID: 065299
      Thu, Sep 11, 2014, 12:39
Somewhere I can project stats for free agents for just Week 2?
 
26youngroman
      ID: 57047243
      Thu, Sep 11, 2014, 13:27
GO - I don't know where these projections are coming from and if they are worth something, but they are probably better than nothing.
 
27Judy
      ID: 54203110
      Thu, Sep 11, 2014, 22:26
Reports --> players -->. Full free agent listing
 
28Frick
      ID: 17640169
      Fri, Sep 12, 2014, 08:00
Re: 21

I think Rice will be back in the NFL faster than most people think. I don't think the NFLPA is going to accept the increased punishment. Unless he has a prior incident his indefinite suspension does not follow the new policy and increasing it just because the video looks awful makes for good PR, but not legal standing before an arbitrator. Mike Vick was just as reviled and he was back in a year or so. The problem keeping a player on the bench for a year is tough in this league.
 
29judy
      Dude
      ID: 7771722
      Fri, Sep 12, 2014, 18:27
whoa -- now ADAP is a problem...
 
30 deepsnapper
      ID: 58491320
      Sat, Sep 13, 2014, 22:18
Fallout from Ray Rice. All Day was not indicted by the Grand Jury last week, but they re-reviewed the case this week and indited him on child abuse and criminal negligence!

I had to pick the "limb" of a peach tree in our backyard to be whipped with by my maternal grandmother (farmer's wife, arms like a grown man!) who, if she didn't think is was big enough, picked her own to give the whipping! That was more humiliating than the whipping itself.

My dad must used his meat hook like hands and didn't care what he hit. He graduated to a barber's razor strap when I was a teenager, What really hurt was the hook on the end of it where it connected to the barber's chair. Single edged razor strap was popular in the 50's & 60's.

Even if Adrian did it, which wouldn't surprise me, I don't believe there was criminal intent. Jeez, Masters and Johnson admitted they were wrong not to spank their kids, and they wrote the book millions took to heart as gospel for raising children in the '50's & 60's. They apologized to people who'd applied their suggestions from the book and admitted they were wrong.

I can't deny things are a little different in TX, but I can't imagine my 50 yr old (at that time) grandmother behind bars for spanking me??

Bootlegging bath tub whiskey/gin by my great-grandfather - heck yea! I still have the bottle-capper he used in the 1920's to seal the bottles. He also wrote a Union Hymnal full of songs praising the unions at the same time! lol

(OT) The parents of a Hindu child who died of natural causes (autopsy) back in the spring, committed suicide last weekend after the mother of the boy was set to go to the grand jury for killing him, they weren't allowed to take his remains back to India for final internment by Plano P.D. and the D.A. "Cultural Differences" was the explanation given for the suicides (no sh*t!). What her problem boiled down to was the cops found the boy's body in a tub full of ice, Their customs required the father to handle the boys remains and he was out of town, so she preserved the body as best she could and waited for him to come home, but the police found the boy in a tub first So sad

BTW - Lewisville's, (my home) own father (from Egypt) is still on the loose 4 years after his "honor killing" of his 2 teenage daughters after they dated out of their race and didn't want to go to Egypt for "arranged weddings" Shot them multiple times in his car in a Irving hotel's parking lot & fled to ??? He was in the US 20+ years!

Disney's ride - "It's a small world after all" is true for technology, but not the relationships between different cultures. ISIS anyone?

So much for the rant, hit a little too close to home. Pray for Adrian the father, not the football player.
 
31Tree
      ID: 55815821
      Sun, Sep 14, 2014, 17:15
pretty sure i'll do better by not putting any one in my team Defense slot...
 
32Frick
      ID: 17640169
      Mon, Sep 15, 2014, 11:54
I haven't seen the specifics of the case, but I agree with you deepsnapper. Unless it was extreme, I question the justification of the warrant for his arrest.
 
33deepsnapper
      ID: 58491320
      Mon, Sep 15, 2014, 20:22
I started Seattle's D and got -5 points. Sit Dallas' D and they scored 11! It must be true that the Seahawks don't travel well, 9-8 The last 3 years, ouch!
 
34Judy
      ID: 54203110
      Tue, Sep 16, 2014, 23:14
In nj rice gets a hand slap in nj and a pretrial deal and a PA mom at a traffic stops in nj tells the cop she has a concealed weapon and a permit for it and they pull her in, set to go on trial and probably jail as the two states don't share the same laws!!! Seriously? Yes, although nj is re-opening the case and I suspect with all the publicity, she will get into the pre trial thingie.

 
35Ref
      ID: 55156513
      Wed, Sep 17, 2014, 12:12
The NFL screwed up the Ray Rice incident from the beginning and so did the prosecutors. Their indefinite ban now is crap. They have to go back to the two games. I personally feel he should be banned for a year or indefinite from the beginning but since they didn't, too late now.

Hardy: That man has been convicted! Heck with the appeal. He should be out as well. NFL screwed up.

AP/McDonald: They have been arrested but not convicted. Just like everyone else, the NFL can't get involved yet. The teams have to do what is right. Pressure from the public and sponsors should help them. Not quite sure how they get paid. Should hold the money and deal with it later on.

31: You have to have all slots filled. The D is the only spot where it is difficult to fill. But at least they never get "injured."
 
36Frick
      ID: 17640169
      Wed, Sep 17, 2014, 14:14
I am not a fan of waiting for a conviction before the NFL steps in and punishes a player. A smart attorney could drag a case out for years if it meant they player could keep playing. Or push for a speedy trial and plea bargain it down, see Jim Irsay.
 
37GO
      ID: 344132921
      Wed, Sep 17, 2014, 18:34
So somebody gets accused... just suspend them and their ability to earn a living? Guess we are guilty until proven innocent.

I'm gonna start accusing players on my opposing fantasy team just so they get suspended before I play them. Peyton Manning killed my hamster!!! suspend him! I'll prove it later.
 
38Judy
      ID: 54203110
      Wed, Sep 17, 2014, 22:46
And now Dwyer... Pretty soon these guys are gonna get the message -- no?
 
39WG
      ID: 552431321
      Thu, Sep 18, 2014, 08:55
Are we not allowed to put in claims for the players dropped in waiver claims? When do they unlock?
 
40Ref
      ID: 55156513
      Thu, Sep 18, 2014, 12:02
It is so messed up. I was at the computer clicking add over and over again and couldn't get him.So dumb. Should be on regular waivers using the waiver order like every other site in the world.
 
41Toral
      ID: 1710311217
      Thu, Sep 18, 2014, 12:04
They unlock 12 hours after they are dropped; hence the hasty departure of Jerik McKinnon from the free agest ranks in a Fastest Fingers contest. This is really a terrible way to do it; when we were at CBS Sportsline there was a waiver run every day, which is a fairer way to do it.
 
42Ref
      ID: 55156513
      Thu, Sep 18, 2014, 12:04
24 hrs.
 
43Building 7
      ID: 2011541213
      Thu, Sep 18, 2014, 13:45
I don't know why they don't go on waivers. The current system rewards those who can be near a computer at exactly 12:00:06. And hit the refresh button at the exact time. It's like getting a boarding pass for Southwest. A five second delay and you're in C class. And I'm the one the who won the fastest finger contest........this time.
 
44judy
      Dude
      ID: 7771722
      Thu, Sep 18, 2014, 15:52
whoa -- now ADAP is a problem...
 
45Building 7
      ID: 2011541213
      Thu, Sep 18, 2014, 16:10
Are we not allowed to put in claims for the players dropped in waiver claims? When do they unlock?

See Reports / Player / Locked Players....on top

 
46Judy
      ID: 54203110
      Thu, Sep 18, 2014, 21:32
Sure hope hester is not on someone's bench... Wow!
 
47Judy
      ID: 54203110
      Thu, Sep 18, 2014, 21:38
Hester on the bench in G24, AAA#2 and RG14.

Oops. I could use a WR...
 
48Judy
      ID: 54203110
      Thu, Sep 18, 2014, 23:09
Although Julio is doing a nice job tonight...
 
49TD
      Leader
      ID: 036331011
      Fri, Sep 19, 2014, 11:04
Julio got me 29 points in G24, but I am still losing to the Dallas Cowboys because Falcons Defense got 32 points.

Can we have a vote to retroactively get rid of the Def in G24? :)
 
50GO
      ID: 065299
      Fri, Sep 19, 2014, 12:04
Damn if TB defense still didn't get 10 points!
 
51Doug
      ID: 878410
      Fri, Sep 19, 2014, 13:10
Looking at the transactions page, is there any way to filter to see actual waiver claims vs. straight free agent pickups? It seems like the site has them all comingled and I can't see how to split them out. Looking at timestamps not exactly my first choice (and would need to go back 24 hours to see if a player was dropped at that time for each transaction)...
 
52VampireWeekend
      ID: 528451912
      Fri, Sep 19, 2014, 13:45
Let's be clear...the TB defense racked up 10.5 points...not bad for a blow-out loss...
 
53PeteN.
      ID: 8550318
      Fri, Sep 19, 2014, 20:00
RE: 49. Shocked me as well! I doubt the Falcons D/ST score another 32 points the rest of the year combined.
 
54Slizz
      ID: 227222719
      Sat, Sep 20, 2014, 09:14
They do play the bucs again...
 
55 Slizz
      ID: 227222719
      Mon, Sep 22, 2014, 13:39
Mea culpa on Jordan Reed. Man, I would love to have Greg Olsen right about now.

I've got a total of 2.9 points from the TE spot through 3 weeks. I'm lucky as heck to be looking at a 5-1 start.

That said, I'm going to be in the market for a TE if I'm gonna compete for a championship. I have some excess at rb and wr and would be looking to trade for a TE straight up.
 
56Judy
      ID: 54203110
      Mon, Sep 22, 2014, 20:50
I started a new thread for any rotoguru commentaries:

http://rotoguru1.com/cgi-bin/read.pl?board=footst&thread=1114#1411436973
 
57GO
      ID: 065299
      Tue, Sep 23, 2014, 10:17
I think its fair to say the AFC East is the toughest division. 5 of the top 10 scoring AVG teams are all stuck in there.
 
58Ref
      ID: 55156513
      Tue, Sep 23, 2014, 11:17
57: I'd have swept too if the Falcons DST didn't go nuts on me this week! In the end it was the idiot kicker who beat me. Can you let Pitt score TDs instead of let them drive into your end and then stop them? ;)

In other news, welcome Bortles! Was tough going down the line all year with the teams with multiple starting QBs to see if I could find one just until Bortles arrived. Thanks to the TWO managers who were great to me. I will deal with you any time! Fortunately, I was able to nab some injury QBs the first 3 weeks to tide me over. I knew he'd be here soon. Just in time!
 
59Nerfherders
      ID: 1511182416
      Wed, Sep 24, 2014, 01:31
I knew this was going to be an off year, but not this bad. We'll see in a couple weeks and then lots of guys might be on the block.
 
60Frick
      ID: 17640169
      Thu, Sep 25, 2014, 16:47
Have dropped players always been locked (I can't even submit a waiver claim) for 24 hours? Do they then go through a waiver claim, or is it first come/first serve once the 24 hour lock is up?
 
61Tree
      ID: 55815821
      Thu, Sep 25, 2014, 18:20
i am always looking to make moves if people are looking to trade...
 
62skinneej
      ID: 11192115
      Wed, Oct 01, 2014, 22:53
Anyone looking for WR or TE help, I can move Martellus Bennet, Steve Smith, Devin Hester or some combination thereof. Need to add a solid RB.
 
63GO
      ID: 344132921
      Wed, Oct 01, 2014, 23:23
Frick, I have very little understanding of any logic of any of the waiver claims, periods etc. Its all a guess, and each time i think i have it figured out, i screw up again.
 
64Nerfherders
      ID: 161121811
      Thu, Oct 02, 2014, 13:56
I think we all need a refresher on how it works in MLF. I have the RIFC rules down, but not this league.
 
65Judy
      ID: 54203110
      Thu, Oct 02, 2014, 23:53
There are a variety of ways to set up waivers and FCFS FA. Our set up freezes drops for 24 hours and then it is FCFS. If we want to change it, we can look at it after the season as there are several options -- like rifc where a dropped player can be picked up immediately...
 
66mjd
      Dude
      ID: 501381415
      Fri, Oct 03, 2014, 13:50
All dropped players should be subjected to wavers before FCFS. Otherwise it becomes a matter of who can get online first.

Just one man's opinion.
 
67mjd
      Dude
      ID: 501381415
      Fri, Oct 03, 2014, 13:54
At least that's the way it was set up when we used the CBS gamesite.
 
68GO
      ID: 065299
      Fri, Oct 03, 2014, 14:04
Ok, I didn't know this was the case either. But if players are being dropped they must go through waivers... this 24 hour 12:01 thing just cannot happen.

So its when players dropped as a result of waiver claims when we do the "Big" waiver processing on Wednesday at 12 PM... they are not going to waivers? but rather a 24 hour old til Thursday at 12:01 and then its open season? Yeah, that's no good.
 
70mjd
      Dude
      ID: 501381415
      Fri, Oct 03, 2014, 16:38
It's my understanding that a dropped player on Wed or after is locked for exactly 24 hours, then it's FCFS.

No waver claim, so if you have no access at the 24 hr mark, TS if someone else gets there first.
 
71mjd
      Dude
      ID: 501381415
      Fri, Oct 03, 2014, 16:45
Of course, if someone is dropped later than 24 hours before his gametime freeze than he's subject to the Wed waver process and FCFS rules related to that.
 
72Judy
      ID: 54203110
      Fri, Oct 03, 2014, 19:37
So, what so you want to do?

We can set waivers for dropped/locked players at a certain time each day -- say noon. It becomes a calendar function.

Do we change mid season?
 
73Tree
      ID: 55815821
      Sat, Oct 04, 2014, 22:19
im not sure why people feel dropped players need to go through waivers.

what's the argument against them being FCFS?
 
74Judy
      ID: 54203110
      Sun, Oct 05, 2014, 22:26
Looks like minimal interest in changing what we have.
 
75youngroman
      ID: 57047243
      Tue, Oct 07, 2014, 04:24
5th highest points for and 2nd highest points against in a competitive division puts you in last place with a record of 5-5.

this weak I am up against the #1 in the division, who has the best record but the worst points, and the team with the fewest scored points to date. I can only expect to go 2-0 this week.
 
76mjd
      Dude
      ID: 501381415
      Tue, Oct 07, 2014, 14:50
3 Harvin TDs called back due to penalties.

@#$%& zebras.
 
77Judy
      ID: 54203110
      Wed, Oct 08, 2014, 01:08
Yea, that ref team isn't gonna be anywhere near the playoffs...
 
78Tree
      ID: 55815821
      Wed, Oct 08, 2014, 08:16
is there any way to see this league from a historical perspective?

i'm curious as to how my team has done season-to-season...
 
79Ref
      ID: 55156513
      Wed, Oct 08, 2014, 11:29
This site is so confusing. We have always made any dropped player go through waivers. It was never suggested let alone voted to be changed. I didn't know it was changed. Judy has been emailing me the site setup and it is really confusing and not all in the same place. It wasn't an intentional change. We need to move it back to where it is supposed to be, but I'm nervous about making a change and breaking something else.
 
80Toral
      Leader
      ID: 2111201313
      Wed, Oct 08, 2014, 11:40
I looked at the site's help pages, and I *think* I know how the fix could be done -- but I agree, I can't be sure the change wouldn't break something else.
 
81Frick
      ID: 17640169
      Wed, Oct 08, 2014, 13:52
I only pointed it out because I thought all dropped players were supposed to go through waivers. In a league this deep one man's trash is another man's treasure, or least less smelly trash. I ended up getting the player that I wanted, but thought it was odd that I couldn't submit a waiver claim for him and he was going to be FCFS at whatever random time the prior owner had dropped him.

I agree that it should go back to the prior method, but the problem with such a customizable site is that customization might break something else. Hopefully it won't be a problem for anyone.
 
82PeteN.
      ID: 8550318
      Wed, Oct 08, 2014, 19:36
I only show my team having one opponent for Week 6 which is SF. Am I missing something?
 
83PeteN.
      ID: 8550318
      Wed, Oct 08, 2014, 19:40
Cont from post 82 --- Denver has 3 opponents for Week 6.
 
84GO
      ID: 344132921
      Wed, Oct 08, 2014, 21:42
Ok, so Dallas needs one more and Denver needs one less. Any idea which one is should be? I emailed Ref and Judy.
 
85Ref
      ID: 55156513
      Wed, Oct 08, 2014, 22:55
Simple input error. denver was clicked on instead of dallas. Will be fixed here in a minute.
 
86Judy
      ID: 54203110
      Thu, Oct 09, 2014, 01:39
Sorry for the schedule error. Stuff happens. I did ask folks to check their team schedules when inputted back in August... You might want to check it now!

Also I don't think we should change the waiver for this season. It is the same as we did last year and I do not of see a majority of managers asking for it...
 
87Ref
      ID: 55156513
      Thu, Oct 09, 2014, 12:28
86: Albeit accidental, it was changed without a vote. It would never be authorized by the league. I understand the philosophy of waiting until year end, but if something is a mistake and is wrong, we shouldn't keep going with it. Just like FIXING the scheduling error. If the scheduling error was last week, changing it would change the standings and win-loss records, but would still have to be done. Luckily, the schedule is programmed in with a long track record of being mistake-free--so any error has to be on the input. I have made input errors in the past as well. Easy to do.

I am nervous that we'd screw something else up, but want to look at it some more and even ask the site if nec. There is no way McKinnon should have been gotten w/o using a waiver pick. It also means that others got players w/o giving up their ww priority and others who would have benefited and high on priority lost out. Nothing we can do about that now. We can correct it moving forward though.
 
88Ref
      ID: 55156513
      Thu, Oct 09, 2014, 12:47
"Waiver Request (Locked Players Only)" Waivers Are Processed: For all players at the same time, at the end of each "Waiver Request (Locked Players Only)" calendar event.
On a player-by-player basis, at 3am ET, 1 days after the player is dropped.
Hint: Coming to MyFantasyLeague.com from Yahoo!, CBS Sportsline, or ESPN? Choose the "On a player-by-player basis..." option above!

I think that is the error. We didn't choose on a player by player basis.
 
89Ref
      ID: 55156513
      Thu, Oct 09, 2014, 12:51
I made that change and tried to pick up a locked player but it's still not working. Toral, what is your suggestion?
 
90Toral
      Leader
      ID: 2111201313
      Thu, Oct 09, 2014, 13:16
I'm at somewhat of a disadvantage here because I can see only the Help pages and not the actual places where the commissioners do these things.

But there is a place (see league e-mail from Judy) where we have it set so that dropped players are locked for one day. It might need to be set instead for "Until the next waivers are processed".

Below that there is a section marked "Allow owners to submit requests for recently dropped (or "locked") players separately from other players (free agents), as subject to league calendar rules?" We now have that marked "No"; it would be changed to "Yes."

Then we would need to set up "waiver events" on the calendar, one a day for Thursday and Friday and Saturday and Sunday. I would presume that we would set them for the same time of day as Wednesday waivers; no need to have waivers run in the middle of the night, as at CBS.
 
91Ref
      ID: 55156513
      Thu, Oct 09, 2014, 13:54
Toral, I was trying to add you as a commish, but nothing is ever intuitive on this site.
 
92GO
      ID: 065299
      Thu, Oct 09, 2014, 13:54
I would agree it should be fixed and that the league would never have purposely done it. We should try to most closely emulate what was going on at CBS... so setting the waiver to run daily for anybody that is cut (at whatever time) seems like a good strategy. 12 Noon EST is a fair time for all I think.
 
93Ref
      ID: 55156513
      Thu, Oct 09, 2014, 14:50
I am trying to add Toral as a Commish. GO or Judy if you get locked out as a commish, let me know as I had to change commish p-word. You should be ok since you are already in but who knows. Says can only be two commsihs too but we have 3 in there now.
 
94Judy
      ID: 54203110
      Thu, Oct 09, 2014, 22:34
It is an easy change, but what we currently have is the same as last year. Why are we changing mid season?
 
95Tree
      ID: 55815821
      Thu, Oct 09, 2014, 23:13
so, i guess lost in the shuffle. lol

no way to look at the league history? or is it archived anywhere?
 
96Judy
      ID: 54203110
      Fri, Oct 10, 2014, 00:28
Yes. The rules for 2013 when we switched over from CBS, are exactly to the same as what we are using this year. This issue should have been detected and perhaps changed before the season.
 
97youngroman
      ID: 57047243
      Fri, Oct 10, 2014, 03:32
Tree - I see the history of 2012 and 2013 as links in the "My Leagues" menu on top.
the history prior to that can be found here
 
98San Fran 49ers
      ID: 329191216
      Sun, Oct 12, 2014, 17:19
Let's start drumming up the interest in dropping team defense...
 
99Tree
      ID: 55815821
      Tue, Oct 14, 2014, 08:17
ah cool! thanks!

follow up - do we have an inactive list for an injured player out for the season (such as Ridley), so i can fill his roster spot without dropping him?

follow up - if we do have such a list, and i place him on it, am i required to keep him?
 
100Toral
      Leader
      ID: 2111201313
      Tue, Oct 14, 2014, 08:24
Tree - no such list.
 
101 Slizz
      ID: 227222719
      Tue, Oct 14, 2014, 09:31
My Jordan Reed bet and mismanagement of the TE spot cost me the playoffs (4 wins to date) had Greg Olsen been on my squad.

I'm in sell mode & will be hitting the reset button on the franchise. Only the following guys are untouchable:

Matt Ryan
Dez Bryant

Slizz - Buffalo Bills
 
102Nerfherders
      ID: 161121811
      Tue, Oct 14, 2014, 18:36
I kept both of my team defenses from last year - Chicago and Carolina, figuring either Carolina's defense from last year is legit, or Chicago would get back to their old ways. It hasn't worked out for me at all. In the last 4 weeks my benched defense has outscored my starting defense 44-2.

Anyways, I am pretty much open to offers for anyone but Stafford and Gordon at this point, considering I have to go 12-2 to make the playoffs from here on out - not happening.
 
103Slackjawed Yokel
      ID: 38502923
      Sun, Oct 19, 2014, 12:22
I just emailed commisioners, but thought I would let everyone know. Got ahead of myself in messing with the mfl interface. Did not mean to drop Bridgewater. Meant to drop riley, so I'm hoping it can be reversed.
 
104GO
      ID: 344132921
      Sun, Oct 19, 2014, 12:48
Think i got this fixed.
 
105Slackjawed Yokel
      ID: 38502923
      Sun, Oct 19, 2014, 13:12
Big thanks to Ref and GO for saving my ass after my boneheaded move.
 
106Judy
      ID: 54203110
      Sun, Oct 19, 2014, 13:36
Tree -- want n IR spot for 2015? Lobby for it at end of season beginning of next.
 
107Judy
      ID: 54203110
      Sun, Oct 19, 2014, 14:25
Folks, if there is something you see in our rules, scoring, etc, that you want modified for 2015, please so indicate as you think about it so we can work on it in the off season...
Now is not the time to complain for this season.
 
108mjd
      Dude
      ID: 501381415
      Sun, Oct 19, 2014, 16:58
Nerf, sent you an email.
 
109Tree
      ID: 55815821
      Sun, Oct 19, 2014, 17:46
thanks Judy.

so far, changes *I* would like to see include the addition of an IR slot, plus getting rid of team D.

the problem with team D is that there simply aren't enough to go around. every other position allows every team owner to draft a back up.

team D, doesn't.
 
110Slizz
      ID: 227222719
      Sun, Oct 19, 2014, 20:30
I agree with tree, however what is the plan?

Eliminate dst and replace it with a flex idp position?

Do we alter the positions for idp?

DL, DL, LB, LB, DB, DB, FLEX

Also, what is everyone's thoughts on MFL?

Me? I am not a fan of MFL...I know I'm not alone in that sentiment. Biggest gripe I have is the free agency/waivers and sorting to find players. It's a problem as it's not intuitive at like espn cbs or yahoo.
 
111Tree
      ID: 55815821
      Sun, Oct 19, 2014, 20:50
MFL's free agent sorting system is fine, as long as you know how to use it (that's not meant to offend).

reports>players>top free agents is the way to search for the highest scoring free agents. you can sort numerous ways.

separately you can list ALL the free agents.

as for team D, what if we eliminated team D and just added a bench spot?
 
112GO
      ID: 344132921
      Sun, Oct 19, 2014, 21:36
The free agent searching is BRUTAL compared to Yahoo or ESPN. No matter what screen I go to, there is something not on there that I need.

Full Free Agent? doesn't have stats at all... only has Add, Own% which are empty for most players and Projections for very few. And its a projected final number - not broken down by say 50 yards projected receiving on 4 catches and 30 yards rushing and 6 targets. Which I could sort if I'm looking for a guy projected to get gets the most targets.

Top Free Agents doesn't have actual stats... or the next week's opposing team...

Projected Stats? doesn't say what week its projecting, I assume the next one. But I can't pick a future week to project. So if I'm trying to plan my Week 10 kicker bye I can't check future projected stats of who will score most.

Why does my specific matchup in Live Scoring (or Summary) not automatically come to the top forcing me to sift through looking for it through 24 other matchups to find mine.

Why do I have to "login" as a commish when I need to do commish work and then back into my own Jets team to go back to my own lineups? If I have commish powers, shouldn't that be the end of it?

And #1 with a bullet... WHY in the world can I not set my waiver claims up on Monday morning?

Thats off the top of my head.
 
113Slizz
      ID: 227222719
      Sun, Oct 19, 2014, 22:11
What he said...

I feel like GO is Peter from Office Space meeting with "The Bobs" talking about MFL as if is TPS reports.
 
114Tree
      ID: 55815821
      Sun, Oct 19, 2014, 23:01
Why does my specific matchup in Live Scoring (or Summary) not automatically come to the top forcing me to sift through looking for it through 24 other matchups to find mine.

this is just a function of how the page for this specific league was set up. in other leagues i play on MFL, this front and center.

Top Free Agents doesn't have actual stats... or the next week's opposing team...

i actually rarely look at those things, even in yahoo.

And #1 with a bullet... WHY in the world can I not set my waiver claims up on Monday morning?

pretty sure you can just change the league calender.

Full Free Agent? doesn't have stats at all...

yea, that's kind of a pain.
 
115Ref
      ID: 55156513
      Mon, Oct 20, 2014, 12:33
Some things you can pretty much count on us never having.
1. An IR spot. People take advantage of it and we don't want guys being stashed anyhow. These are deep leagues. What we did at the start was to add an extra bench spot in lieu of an IR spot. When we added IDP we also added an additional bench spot. If you wanted to lobby, an extra bench spot would be the only possibility, but then we are taking 24 more players out of the pool and you can bet, they would be used for stashing young players. These leagues were designed so managers would have to make some tough choices while keeping healthy players in their lineups. Am I going to try and trade to cover my bye week? Am I going to pick up a FA to cover it? Or will I take the 0 and hope it's enough or kick the week or even miss out on the tiebreak at the end?

2. Dumping D/ST. We have had three votes on this and two in the last two years. This is a major change and needs 2/3 vote to pass and it is being soundly defeated. I think it would take several people who voted for keeping D/ST last time to change their minds to even bring this to a vote in the near future.

Last year I was spending a lot of time at the hospital before and during the season. I had little to no time to do my usual setup. There were some issues with CBS, mainly the price and the fact that they don't track negative scoring. I think there were a couple other things too, but other than that it was an awesome site for a commish to help with stuff. As a manager I liked it too. Judy had been looking into MFL and asked to move the league there. We tried it. I'm sure some of us like it and some of us do not. I have been getting several notes about ESPN, Yahoo! or even back to CBS. Currently, I don't think ESPN or Yahoo are options or we'd already be there. I do not think they have 24 teams or double headers. As far as CBS goes, we could certainly take a look at that if you wanted after the season.
 
116Toral
      Leader
      ID: 2111201313
      Mon, Oct 20, 2014, 13:02
"And #1 with a bullet... WHY in the world can I not set my waiver claims up on Monday morning?

pretty sure you can just change the league calender.
-------------------------------------------

It's not as simple as that because FCFS waiver periods and ordinary waiver periods can't overlap.

Or to put it another way, because you can still pick up players for Monday's games, you can't do waiver claims yet.
 
117GO
      ID: 065299
      Mon, Oct 20, 2014, 13:27
Well for comparison, in Yahoo, Sunday night I put a waiver claim in for my kicker for next week... the guy I am claiming was locked on waivers, and the guy I want to claim was locked on waivers. But at least I can put it up on the board so I don't forget about it. In this league I have to email myself reminders or keep little post it reminders so on Tuesday morning I can remember to do what I planned.

But I also can still add a player for tonight's game as long I drop someone who wasn't in my starting up lineup and used this week.
 
118Judy
      ID: 54203110
      Mon, Oct 20, 2014, 17:14
FYI: RIFC, AAA, and AA use MFL.
I think the most confusing thing is the overload of options they provide. When we moved over in RIFC leagues, it took a while to figure out their language for set ups. You can do almost anything you want in MFL. If you send in a help plea, they reply w/i 24 hours and can usually solve it for you.

Some of the confusion from CBS to MFL regarding the waiver/FCFS FA is my fault because not having EVER commished CBS I did not see the differences between what we had there and what RIBC uses. I slipped up there out of ignorance of the subtleties of G24 and when no one "caught" it in 2013 it slipped through again. That is easily fixable for 2015.

We set the waiver time for half time of the Monday night game to be sure that all players were "locked". I can see if GO wants is possible for 2015.
 
119Judy
      ID: 54203110
      Mon, Oct 20, 2014, 17:21
Dues for 2014 season will be posted in November. I appointed Carolina Panthers -- Steve P -- to be the treasurer to calculate the data. I need to feed him this year's MFL cost and then I will have the data for you on a spreadsheet he created for us. Many of you will have credits for 2014. Some of you will owe a few year's dues... As we have not been collecting them for a while...
 
120Tree
      ID: 55815821
      Mon, Oct 20, 2014, 19:18
2. Dumping D/ST. We have had three votes on this and two in the last two years. This is a major change and needs 2/3 vote to pass and it is being soundly defeated. I think it would take several people who voted for keeping D/ST last time to change their minds to even bring this to a vote in the near future.

for those who want to keep D/ST, what is the logic for keeping that slot?

to me, when a full 2/3 of the league cannot have a back up simply because there aren't enough NFL teams, that itself is reason enough to dump the spot.
 
121GO
      ID: 344132921
      Mon, Oct 20, 2014, 20:54
I guess we should get rid of QB's then too?
 
122Frick
      ID: 17640169
      Tue, Oct 21, 2014, 12:56
Not quite the same logic. There are only 32 D/ST, there are 70ish QBs. Now, most of them will score a 0, but that would be an improvement on some of the D/STs.

I think part of the problem (and I am certainly guilty of this) is we should use that scarcity to encourage trades. However, the opposite seems to be occurring as fewer trades are occurring.
 
123Judy
      ID: 54203110
      Tue, Oct 21, 2014, 13:38
114. Tree you can create your own home page to have it do whatever you want. So if you have it in other mfl, just change your homepage to look the same. Easy.
 
124GO
      ID: 065299
      Tue, Oct 21, 2014, 14:10
That is my favorite MFL feature - I do have my homepage tweaked pretty much the way I want it.

I do also love the Monday summary of who is left to play for MNF and scoring summary. A nice little recap. I don't know if that was there by default or I found and added it.
 
125GO
      ID: 065299
      Tue, Oct 21, 2014, 14:12
Tree - when you say its front and center though... you automatically get YOUR matchup to the top? What I don't like and haven't figured out how to change is when I go to Scoring Summary... I have to look through 20 some matchups sometimes to find the Jets. Or do a ctrl+F search. Other websites always sift the matchups specific to that manger to the top of the list.
 
126Tree
      ID: 55815821
      Tue, Oct 21, 2014, 14:51
Not quite the same logic. There are only 32 D/ST, there are 70ish QBs. Now, most of them will score a 0, but that would be an improvement on some of the D/STs.

this.

the fact is, there are more than 32 QBs. in fact, 54 have scored points this year, and although some of them are very low scoring, guys like Bridgewater, Garoppolo, RG3, and Thomas are certainly worth keeping track of in a league such as this, not to mention zero-point scorers such as Manziel and Mettenberger.

but in a dynasty style league, a team defense seems kind of silly to me.
 
127GO
      ID: 065299
      Tue, Oct 21, 2014, 15:05
But there are many weeks when people don't have a QB to start, just like we don't have a defense to start.
 
128mjd
      Dude
      ID: 501381415
      Tue, Oct 21, 2014, 18:38
How quickly we forget the issues with CBS. Otherwise we'd still be there, no?

I initially hated MFL, but after using the site over time in several leagues, I have gotten used to it and I now can at least negotiate the plethora of info that they do offer.

And projections from any site really don't mean squat.

 
129Tree
      ID: 55815821
      Tue, Oct 21, 2014, 22:08
But there are many weeks when people don't have a QB to start, just like we don't have a defense to start.

the difference is that there is ALWAYS a QB to start.

there is not always a defense to start.
 
130GO
      ID: 065299
      Wed, Oct 22, 2014, 12:28
So weeks when I have to start a random backup QB and take a 0 cause my starter is hurt or on bye week, that counts as "always" having a QB to start?
 
131Judy
      ID: 54203110
      Wed, Oct 22, 2014, 21:50
129. Uh, tree, no. I have two QB, Foles and Sanchez for my bye week. Zero points.
 
132Frick
      ID: 17640169
      Thu, Oct 23, 2014, 09:17
There are no back-up D/ST. There is a hard cap of 32, so some teams are only going to have 1. It is going to happen some year when a team doesn't draft one and won't have an eligible line-up without making a trade.

There are more than 32 QBs, they might get you 0 points, but at least you have options to try and be creative. A few years ago, I started Julian Edelman at QB, when he had QB eligibility for some reason. I typically only got 1 or 2 points, but at least there was a chance I could score points.
 
133GO
      ID: 065299
      Thu, Oct 23, 2014, 09:24
But you know what else limits the ability to ever be forced to take a 0 on a defense? Your Team Defense NEVER gets hurt unlike your QB. So after you draft one, you have one. And now its less risky then your QB slot.
 
134 mjd
      Dude
      ID: 501381415
      Thu, Oct 23, 2014, 16:42
I'll be looking to trade the Carolina D/ST after this week for a 9th rd pick, same as I got them for.
 
135Tree
      ID: 55815821
      Thu, Oct 23, 2014, 22:47
129. Uh, tree, no. I have two QB, Foles and Sanchez for my bye week. Zero points.

the point is, you have one. every single team in this league can have two QBs.

it is impossible for every single team in this league to have two D/ST.

there were no D's taken after the 8th round. Seven QBs were taken after the 8th round, and two of them have scored points - Drew Stanton, and Austin Davis, who has turned himself into solid starting QB for a medium to deep league.
 
136mjd
      Dude
      ID: 501381415
      Tue, Oct 28, 2014, 12:57
There are D/STs out there to be had... cheap, if you really want one.

Two weeks ago the Giants got the J'ville D off the ww to cover a bye and were rewarded with 15 points.

This week, I traded a ninth rd pick for the Carolina D and they got me 9 points.

Take the zero or work out a deal, that's the way this league has always been.
 
137 mjd
      Dude
      ID: 501381415
      Tue, Oct 28, 2014, 13:01
PS I need a bye week QB next week and have the Carolina D available for a 9th rd pick.

I'm up for a trade or 2.
 
138Ref
      ID: 55156513
      Tue, Oct 28, 2014, 13:35
135: Tree, this is your first year in a 13 year Keeper league. I appreciate your enthusiasm, but some of your ideas and comments have come up many times in the history of the league. Not everything works in this league.

As for the QB argument, DST's can be had for cheap. QBs, even bad ones, can't always be had for cheap. In fact, a few, including you, wanted way too much for backup QBs, short-term starters or 2nd QBs. I got extremely lucky to find Free Agents--hence FREE--in Derek Anderson and then Austin Davis--to fill in before Blake Bortles was able to play. Some of the teams who had short-term starters could have gotten over on me if they had been reasonable AND I wouldn't have gotten Anderson or Davis.

Bottom line, these leagues were designed to cause a lot of activity. When trading goes down (and a lot of that is being caused by too high asking prices) bye weeks don't get covered. Injuries are stuck on good teams or cut instead of trading to teams out of the playoffs and rebuilding. It makes the league less fun. But I still feel you have to go out and look for trades because they don't seem to come to you in this league the last couple years.
 
139GO
      ID: 065299
      Tue, Oct 28, 2014, 14:24
I've got a 2nd rounder for sale for a startable RB/WR.

I would also trade Jordan Cameron to a rebuilder. I'm good with not waiting out the injury having Donnell and Amaro.
 
140youngroman
      ID: 57047243
      Wed, Oct 29, 2014, 08:38
looks like the stat keepers of the Lions-Falcons game did not record a single assisted tackle. this cost me a win this week because 3 assists from Levy/Ishmael could have easily been possible.
 
141Ref
      ID: 55156513
      Wed, Oct 29, 2014, 09:48
I might take on a D for this week depending on which one it is. I also could use a RB/WR/TE fill in as well as IDPs. I will take an upgrade elsewhere as well. Old guys. Non-Keepers. Let me know.
 
142Doug
      ID: 878410
      Wed, Oct 29, 2014, 17:00
Alex Smith is available to trade if anyone's needing a QB.

I've got some decent IDPs not-named-Luke available (DL Dunlap, LB Bartu, DB Berry).

At RB willing to move BAL's Taliaferro/Pierce or KC's Thomas (returner plus a few offense touches).
 
143Nerfherders
      ID: 161121811
      Wed, Oct 29, 2014, 18:17
RE 140: I think scoring adjustments happen on Thursday morning, so there is still a chance.

I'm collecting players and picks for next year. Hoyer will be available starting next week.
 
144Building 7
      ID: 167151020
      Sat, Nov 01, 2014, 21:03
Trade announcement:

Ravens trade Ladarius Green and Vontaze Burfict

Lions trade Reggie Wayne and Chad Greenway

 
145Judy
      ID: 54203110
      Sun, Nov 02, 2014, 20:35
B7

Proposed and accepted on mfl? If it does not go, let me know,
 
146Judy
      ID: 54203110
      Mon, Nov 03, 2014, 07:32
Well now, Nick did indeed get nicked, so it is a good thing (I think) that I have Sanchez already on ther roster...
He did quite well yesterday.
 
147 mjd
      Dude
      ID: 501381415
      Mon, Nov 03, 2014, 13:17
Well the Carolina D has scored 9 and 6.5 points the last 2 weeks in tough match ups vs Seattle and NO.

This week against the Mark Sanchez led Eagles and then a week 11 game against the woeful Falcons.

Can be had for a 9th round pick to cover a bye. I don't plan to drop them until their bye week (12).

Also, I'm in the market for week 10 QB to cover a bye even though Rivers started his vacation a week early.
 
148GO
      ID: 344132921
      Mon, Nov 03, 2014, 21:17
Mettenberger for sale after this week.
 
149mjd
      Dude
      ID: 501381415
      Tue, Nov 04, 2014, 11:35
Six teams in the AFC at 11-7.
 
150Nerfherders
      ID: 161121811
      Tue, Nov 04, 2014, 11:43
Brian Hoyer is available as a backup/starter or bye coverage. Pretty decent numbers so far this year.
 
151skinneej
      ID: 11192115
      Tue, Nov 04, 2014, 23:23
So guess I shouldn't hold my breath that the official scoring will be corrected for Amukamara in the Monday night game. He had a clear PD in the first half before he was injured. He knocked the pass away and nearly intercepted the errant throw by Luck. Seems they are really inconsistent on how they score PDs so looks like I will lose by less than a point unless it is corrected. Hope it doesn't come back to cost me a playoff spot. I should be tied atop the NFC North Division, but am a game behind currently.
 
152Building 7
      ID: 2011541213
      Thu, Nov 06, 2014, 16:16
Trade Announcement:

Ravens trade:

Christine Michael, RB
Reggie Wayne, WR
Larry Foote, LB
3rd round draft pick

Bills trade:

Roddy White, WR
Jordan Reed, TE
Brandon Marshall, LB
6th round draft pick

Judy, when it is accepted in MFL, it is over. They appear on your roster right away. I don't know if it is supposed to do that, but it does.
 
153Slizz
      ID: 227222719
      Thu, Nov 06, 2014, 18:55
Confirmed
 
154mjd
      Dude
      ID: 501381415
      Thu, Nov 06, 2014, 19:08
Per current rules on MFL, trades are accepted immediately.

 
155Judy
      ID: 54203110
      Thu, Nov 06, 2014, 21:08
There was one earlier that I had to process. I think they did not accept it on mfl.
 
157mjd
      Dude
      ID: 501381415
      Thu, Nov 06, 2014, 22:18
I believe those conditions are verboten.

We outlawed tradebacks as collusion years ago.
 
158beastiemiked
      ID: 27652721
      Thu, Nov 06, 2014, 22:54
What? You can't do that. That's like fantasy sports ethics 101.
 
159PeteN.
      ID: 8550318
      Thu, Nov 06, 2014, 23:02
Commish, need to have the trade with the Giants reversed. There certainly was no malicious intent. Thanks
 
160mjd
      Dude
      ID: 501381415
      Fri, Nov 07, 2014, 13:33
Where are we keeping track of the traded picks?

In another keeper league that uses MFL (RG 14), I notice if I go to Reports->League, there's a Future Draft Picks link that we don't have in this league.
 
161Judy
      ID: 54203110
      Fri, Nov 07, 2014, 19:50
All that link does is repeat the draft order from 2014... Seems pretty useless, especially since we will be changing the order with keepers and finish position.
 
162Tree
      ID: 161036918
      Sun, Nov 09, 2014, 19:36
revisiting post 117.

in another league i play on MFL, i just put in waiver claims for next week. i'm not sure why we can't in this league.
 
163Toral
      Leader
      ID: 2111201313
      Sun, Nov 09, 2014, 19:47
162: I suspect that your league handles "free agents" and "waivers" separately. When you look under "For Owners" at the top, do you see one option called something like "Add Free Agent"? Is there anything called "FCFS Waivers" on your calendar?

If this league is set up this way next year, it will be possible to make early waiver claims. So long as unowned players are picked up through "FCFS Waivers", it is not.
 
164Judy
      ID: 54203110
      Sun, Nov 09, 2014, 21:38
Tree -- what league? I just checked AAa, RG 14 and G24 and their calendars are all the same....
 
165 beastiemiked
      ID: 27652721
      Mon, Nov 10, 2014, 00:05
I'm looking to trade for a solid RB option. Preferably someone that isn't going to be too expensive since I only want to trade picks. Send me an offer if you are looking towards next year.
 
166Tree
      ID: 161036918
      Mon, Nov 10, 2014, 19:50
re 163 - for owners>waivers.

just like this league. only unlike this league still having FCFS, they already allow waivers.

164 - none of those. and maybe that's it. i'm guessing the league calender is different, and maybe players lock Sunday just before the first game.
 
167 skinneej
      ID: 14911313
      Wed, Nov 12, 2014, 15:40
For teams looking to upgrade at Def, I am making the Cardinals D/ST available. Having two top 5 units has helped avoid byes and play best matchups, but need to let one go to address other areas.

Also need RB that is viable for the rest of the season. I'll consider offers and picks.
 
168Tree
      ID: 161036918
      Wed, Nov 12, 2014, 22:05
trying to locate the trading deadline, but no luck.

can anyone let me know when it is?

thanks.
 
169Promize
      ID: 9102455
      Fri, Nov 14, 2014, 18:12
Trade Announcement:

Seattle
===============

Gives up either 2015 1st Round Pick or 2015 KC 1st Round Pick (Which ever is the lower of the two – meaning later pick)
+
Crowell, Isaiah



Denver
===============
Gives up Dalton, Andy
+
4th round pick


*** Special circumstances: If Dalton is benched this year for 2+ games, Seattle’s pick then becomes 3rd Round Seattle for 7th Round Denver
 
170Tree
      ID: 161036918
      Fri, Nov 14, 2014, 19:11
confirmed.
 
171Judy
      ID: 54203110
      Sat, Nov 15, 2014, 23:03
Tree

Use the calendar link. It's nov 21.
 
172GO
      ID: 065299
      Thu, Nov 20, 2014, 10:13
I'm open to moving Brandin Cooks for another youngish RB or WR. Broker finger no big deal, but I don't have the luxury of waiting on him. Could package with Jordan Cameron for an upgrade.

Also have Mettenberger for sale.
 
173Ref
      ID: 55156513
      Thu, Nov 20, 2014, 14:15
For those of you who have suggested dropping Double Headers again in order to go to ESPN or Yahoo!, I just checked and they are still maxed at 20 teams.
 
174Tree
      ID: 161036918
      Thu, Nov 20, 2014, 19:16
i am pretty surprised at the hatred of MFL. i wonder if it's because there's too many options for some folks.

one of my leagues has been running mfl for years, and it is my favorite format. i think the key is a strong set up, and an understanding of where the different options are...
 
175Judy
      ID: 54203110
      Fri, Nov 21, 2014, 20:09
From ct:

Re trade

We wanted to confirm the picks are 2015 draft picks. Josh (Denver) also controls Seattle 1st round pick. The lower of the Denver or Seattle pick will become property of Cleveland 1st round 2015. Cleveland's 2015 11th round pick is all Denver.
 
176Tree
      ID: 161036918
      Fri, Nov 21, 2014, 20:12
basically, the worst of my two first round picks is the one that will go to the Cleveland franchise.
 
177PeteN.
      ID: 8550318
      Fri, Nov 21, 2014, 20:53
It's in the comments of the trade, but I'm also sending CT my 2015 1st round pick in exchange for CT's 2015 3rd round pick. Steep price to pay for Charles, but I'm going for it this year. No guts, no glory!
 
178 beastiemiked
      ID: 5911312710
      Fri, Nov 21, 2014, 21:08
Send me an offer if you are out of it! Looking for a RB for draft pick(s). Tonight is the deadline.
 
179Ref
      ID: 4410482120
      Fri, Nov 21, 2014, 21:48
Hey guys that trade can't happen this week as Charles has already played and is supposed to be unavailable to trade.
 
180Judy
      ID: 54203110
      Fri, Nov 21, 2014, 21:49
Less confusing version of #175:
Denver trades Hopkins and 2015 first round pick rights (Seattle pick from previous trade).

For

Cleveland AJ Green and 2015 11th round Cleveland pick.
 
181beastiemiked
      ID: 5911312710
      Fri, Nov 21, 2014, 22:04
Trading deadline is tonight. I definitely think the Charles trade should go through.
 
182PeteN.
      ID: 8550318
      Fri, Nov 21, 2014, 22:20
How can that trade not happen? He won't be in my starting lineup this week (locked in CT's) and the trading deadline is tonight.
 
183GO
      ID: 344132921
      Fri, Nov 21, 2014, 23:00
The way I've always seen trade deadlines in NFL leagues is once those guys in the early games start they are now on waivers... and therefore locked for the week... I've always had to move those guys before their respective start times or else its kind of a way to circumvent the trade deadline. You can't trade any other players after their Week 12 game starts, so why should OAK or KC players be an exception?
 
184Ref
      ID: 55156513
      Sat, Nov 22, 2014, 14:45
Once those players games start, they are locked for the week. MFL is the only site I know of that would even allow them to be traded. What's worse is that is was giving Pete JC's points for this week. You can't pick them up or drop them this week now, but apparently you can trade them. Weird.
 
185mjd
      Dude
      ID: 501381415
      Sat, Nov 22, 2014, 14:49
That's another reason I'm not a big fan of Thursday night games.

I've been caught up in this situation before and it really sucks in leagues where the trade does not officially go through for 24 hrs after it's been agreed upon.
 
186PeteN.
      ID: 8550318
      Sat, Nov 22, 2014, 15:48
Yeah, I'm done trying to trade in this league.
 
187Tree
      ID: 161036918
      Sat, Nov 22, 2014, 16:29
while it's a shame that trade fell through, the reason for it not being allowed is a valid one.

that being said, i dont know why anyone would give up on trading in this league.

i remember someone telling me trades are rare in this league. i've been involved in three since i joined the league less than 6 months ago.
 
188PeteN.
      ID: 8550318
      Sat, Nov 22, 2014, 20:04
Not going to fight the trade being reversed. I'm just done trying to trade.
 
189Nerfherders
      ID: 161121811
      Mon, Nov 24, 2014, 17:18
I've made some trades this year. It's ALOT easier when you are playing for next year.

The trade deadline should probably be the Wednesday before week 12, so that this can be avoided in the future. I also think there needs to be a flashing sign or something that tells us what the trade deadline is, because I had NO idea that it was last week.
 
190Doug
      ID: 878410
      Wed, Nov 26, 2014, 14:55
Agree... always good to send around a reminder or something in advance of trade deadline, esp. since many of us are in multiple leagues.

Tree... the reason a lot of people hate MFL is that the UI is so non-intuitive. Things are buried in mazes of menus and frequently not under a header that you'd expect. There's a lot you can do on the site, sure... but it's not intuitive... and similarly you can tweak and customize things, great... but I don't want to have to do that work, I want things just easy to use without me having to think so much to figure out how I want to do (like the other various main FF sites).
 
191Building 7
      ID: 167151020
      Thu, Nov 27, 2014, 09:10
Looks like its going down to the wire in the AFC.
Good luck to everyone that still has a chance for the playoffs.
 
192Ref
      ID: 55156513
      Tue, Dec 02, 2014, 09:43
Congratulations to the Playoff teams! Working on schedule for non playoff teams as well. Here are the top 8 teams competing for Super Bowl:
East
4 Texans at 1 Bengals
3 Ravens at 2 Chargers
West
4 Bears at 1 Saints
3 Cowboys at 2 Giants
 
193Ref
      ID: 55156513
      Tue, Dec 02, 2014, 10:15
Here are the end of year seedings which will be used for the post season games as well as base draft order (in reverse obviously).

Top 8 teams are solely determined based on playoff outcome. Winner will end up first and draft last.

East
4 Texans at 1 Bengals
3 Ravens at 2 Chargers
West
4 Bears at 1 Saints
3 Cowboys at 2 Giants
-------------------------
These teams are unaffected by consolation games and are seeded as follows and will draft in reverse of these standings:

Wanna-Be Bowl
9. Jets
10. Packers
11. 49ers
12. Colts
13. Seahawks
14. Jags
15. Cards
16. Broncos

Toilet Bowl:
17. Vikings
18. Chiefs
19. Browns
20. Raiders
21. Bills
22. Eagles
23. Lions
24. Panthers

Matchups have been put in schedule. For Consolation Bowls, the games will be schedule in future weeks as determine by the original seedings. ie if all the top 4 teams win, 9 would play 12 and 10 would play 11. Just regular seedings. If 16 beats 9, 16 would play 12.
 
194GO
      ID: 065299
      Tue, Dec 02, 2014, 11:55
I feel like I was the first guy out last year or the year before too. Damn. No worse place to be.
 
195Ref
      ID: 55156513
      Wed, Dec 03, 2014, 09:34
OK, was told the week 14 schedule won't work due to playoff input.

Anyhow, I put the seeded teams in the playoff bracket and manipulated the super bowl for our individual conference tournament. That means the other bowls will keep going for placements as well. So you get two losses apparently. Playoff teams play all 3 weeks regardless.
 
196Toral
      Leader
      ID: 2111201313
      Wed, Dec 03, 2014, 11:06
A bit late for this, but....

Does the waiver order change for the playoffs?

Should the waiver order change for the playoffs?
 
197Ref
      ID: 55156513
      Wed, Dec 03, 2014, 14:44
Nothing changes but there are only 8 teams who can use it. Remember, anyone you pickup or drop are lost and can not be kept.
 
198Building 7
      ID: 167151020
      Thu, Dec 04, 2014, 19:11
Playoffs start tonight. Congratulations to all the teams that qualified. And good luck in the playoffs.
 
199PeteN.
      ID: 8550318
      Thu, Dec 04, 2014, 19:13
Ditto what B7 said. Good luck to all that made the playoffs.
 
200Ref
      ID: 55156513
      Tue, Dec 09, 2014, 12:46
Wow! .28 diff in Balt/SD game.
 
201Building 7
      ID: 2011541213
      Tue, Dec 09, 2014, 13:07
I wonder if you can bribe those stat correction guys.
 
202mjd
      Dude
      ID: 501381415
      Tue, Dec 09, 2014, 13:54
Yeah, I really sweated out the last few minutes of that game last night.

Who'd a thunk Peyton Manning would only score 3.72 points.

Also I had 3 players who did not record any points.

Maybe a reason to change ww claims to Thursday during the playoffs. A Thursday stat change could give Balt a victory thereby granting B7 waver privileges and revoking mine. Just a thought.
 
203TD
      Leader
      ID: 036331011
      Tue, Dec 09, 2014, 19:57
I agree about changing ww claims to Thursday during the playoffs. If mjd makes a claim and there is a stat change giving Balt a victory, it could cause problems. I think we should make the change this week.
 
204Ref
      ID: 55156513
      Wed, Dec 10, 2014, 15:13
OK, I have added the consolation games for 5-8th place. Instead of schedules, go to playoffs. If there is a mistake, please let me know asap.

Stats will be finalized on Thursday. If there is a change in that game, let me know asap. WW won't matter as all 8 teams are eligible to pick up players off WW.
 
205Ref
      ID: 55156513
      Wed, Dec 10, 2014, 15:18
I don't see a 5th place or a 7th place game for the championship tourney so worst case, I can throw those teams in the other bowl consolation games next week.
 
206TD
      Leader
      ID: 036331011
      Wed, Dec 10, 2014, 18:01
I thought that only the 4 teams remaining in the championship bracket were allowed to make roster changes this week. Perhaps I am wrong. The league bylaws do not appear to be available on MFL and I don't know where to find them.

There is a "ADDITIONAL LEAGUE RULES SETUP" Section in Reports/Rules/League Bylaws that could be used to post the league Bylaws. The RIFC league I am in uses it for this purpose.
 
207Building 7
      ID: 167151020
      Wed, Dec 10, 2014, 18:38
Here is a post from last year:

575 GO
ID: 01020815
GO #575 Wed, Dec 04, 2013, 08:54 Once the final freeze of week 13 occurs, The 16 teams not in the Super Bowl Playoffs may NOT make any adds or drops. The 8 playoff teams may make moves throughout the playoffs. HOWEVER, any player added or dropped during the playoffs will be ineligible as a keeper the following season, even if he was on the roster at the end of the regular season. A commish will remove all ineligible keepers sometime after we crown a champion.
 
208Judy
      ID: 54203110
      Wed, Dec 10, 2014, 18:47
The playoffs for the first round losers for the wanna be and toilet bowl consolations have been reseeded based upon points.

So even if you lost last week, you get to play on!
 
209TD
      Leader
      ID: 036331011
      Wed, Dec 10, 2014, 19:29
Thanks B7.

Does not make sense to allow teams that have been eliminated from the playoffs to make moves, but I guess those are our rules.

Still would like to see our rules posted on MFL.
 
210mjd
      Dude
      ID: 501381415
      Wed, Dec 10, 2014, 22:18
I agree with TD.

On both counts, but whatever...
 
211GO
      ID: 065299
      Thu, Dec 11, 2014, 10:21
I believe we recently voted on that. I always lock eliminated squads from moves in my other leagues.

As a point of reference this league used to allow NO add/drops for anybody during the playoffs. Think about that.

I championed the cause of compromise - being able to at least have the playoff teams make moves, and anyone added or dropped couldn't be kept. It blew my mind that i got to the playoffs and say my kicker broke a leg... that I was seriously just stuck with that.
 
212Ref
      ID: 55156513
      Tue, Dec 16, 2014, 15:37
No one outside the top 8 should be allowed to make moves. Because everyone in top 8 is still jockeying for position in prize pool, they are allowed to make moves.
 
213Ref
      ID: 55156513
      Tue, Dec 16, 2014, 15:57
Fixed a couple errors on playoff setup page, but the teams are all right. They are not in right order so you might have to look around. Best of luck to Bengals and Giants as they play for the G24 title!
 
214youngroman
      ID: 57047243
      Mon, Dec 22, 2014, 03:56
Russell Wilson saved me last night. now I need 10.5 points out of Vincent Rey and TJ Ward to win it all. come on boys, "SHOW ME THE MONEY"!
 
215TD
      Leader
      ID: 036331011
      Mon, Dec 22, 2014, 10:24
It was looking real bad for me until Lynch made that long TD run. At least I still have a chance of winning.
 
216Judy
      ID: 54203110
      Mon, Dec 22, 2014, 19:46
Down to the WIRE!!!
 
217Judy
      ID: 54203110
      Tue, Dec 23, 2014, 07:25
'GRATS to YR! Did you stay up over there to watch it?

TD had the second highest score as well.

I'll arrange the final playoff order tonight!

And get finances ready...
 
218TD
      Leader
      ID: 036331011
      Tue, Dec 23, 2014, 13:47
Congrats to youngroman for winning the championship.
 
219youngroman
      ID: 57047243
      Tue, Dec 23, 2014, 16:35
Judy - was not awake last night. had to work today and seeing a game from 2:30am to 6am would have been tough. I did not even record it to watch it now that I am home. problem is that it is tough to count tackles and assists on live/taped television. this is easier for players on offense, but with 2 IDP's to go it was not worth it to not know all day if you made it or not.

TD - it was a fight down the wire. I thought that I was out of it until Russell Wilson did his thing on SNF. after that game I was positive going into MNF. It seems that I claimed the win with an assist of TJ Ward late in the 3rd quarter.

to all - enjoy the holidays. all the best in 2015. see you August.
 
220Ref
      ID: 55156513
      Sun, Dec 28, 2014, 09:24
Top 8 (reversed for draft order)

1. Bengals
2. Giants
3. Bears
4. Chargers
5. Saints
6. Ravens
7. Cowboys
8. Texans
 
221Ref
      ID: 55156513
      Sun, Dec 28, 2014, 09:28
Final order of finish. For draft order, this will be inverted.

1. Bengals
2. Giants
3. Bears
4. Chargers
5. Saints
6. Ravens
7. Cowboys
8. Texans
9. Jets
10. Packers
11. 49ers
12. Colts
13. Seahawks
14. Jags
15. Cards
16. Broncos
17. Vikings
18. Chiefs
19. Browns
20. Raiders
21. Bills
22. Eagles
23. Lions
24. Panthers
 
222Toral
      Leader
      ID: 2111201313
      Sun, Dec 28, 2014, 10:17
Now to the question of the hour...has Jonathan Stewart made himself a keeper again?
 
223Slizz
      ID: 451101617
      Sun, Dec 28, 2014, 12:53
Congrats, yr and thank you, ref