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Subject: 2015 G24 PRE SEASON DISCUSSIONS


  Posted by: Judy - [35493114] Mon, Jul 06, 2015, 19:09

Fire away!
 
1Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Mon, Jul 06, 2015, 19:20
Give your team name as well:

YES
Judy/ARIZONA CARDINALS!
 
3 Toral
      ID: 1753514
      Mon, Jul 06, 2015, 20:07
YES
Toral/New Orleans Saints
 
4PeteN.
      ID: 8550318
      Mon, Jul 06, 2015, 20:09
YES
Dallas Cowboys
 
5GO
      ID: 432341310
      Mon, Jul 06, 2015, 20:18
GO's Jets ready to win it all just like real life NFL.
 
7 TD
      ID: 55540220
      Mon, Jul 06, 2015, 22:24
YES
TD/New York Giants
 
8youngroman
      ID: 57047243
      Tue, Jul 07, 2015, 02:36
YES
yr / Bengals
 
9 vampireweekend
      ID: 564377
      Tue, Jul 07, 2015, 10:16
YES
vampireweekend
SAN FRAN 49ERS
 
10Nerfherders
      ID: 161121811
      Tue, Jul 07, 2015, 11:52
In
Detroit Lions
 
11 CT
      ID: 3368712
      Tue, Jul 07, 2015, 13:08
YES
CT/Cleveland Browns
 
12 Valkyrie
      ID: 30611715
      Tue, Jul 07, 2015, 16:11
carolina- definitely in
 
13Tree
      ID: 161036918
      Tue, Jul 07, 2015, 19:52
Yes
Denver Broncos
 
14Building 7
      ID: 1168719
      Tue, Jul 07, 2015, 20:08
I'm in.
Baltimore Ravens
 
15GO
      ID: 444591621
      Tue, Jul 07, 2015, 22:09
My first annual MFL... "i can't find' a list of last years trades.
 
16Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Wed, Jul 08, 2015, 09:46
Go. I think they will be in the thread, since we do post them there as well.
 
17 mjd
      ID: 23182817
      Wed, Jul 08, 2015, 14:19
mjd Chargers in.
 
18Building 7
      ID: 2011541213
      Wed, Jul 08, 2015, 14:27
Go to transactions, change it to just trades and go back 365 days or so.
 
19judy
      Dude
      ID: 7771722
      Wed, Jul 08, 2015, 16:52
I also sent you all a formal MFL invitation. Please go to the site and sign in and maybe take a peek at your team.

We are working on the dues rate for 2015.

Nine (!) of you did not pay the $40 dues for 2013 and none of you paid $20 for 2014. We (your treasurer, Valkrie) and I are working on the spreadsheet so you can see where the money went. Six of you will have a credit due to having won in either 2013 or 2014.

Apparently drafttime is also ready to go, so I will send those out once we have all managers signed up.

Please continue to sign in here so we can all see who is baaaaack!
 
20Doug
      ID: 19613816
      Wed, Jul 08, 2015, 17:13
Yes
Oakland Raiders

Logged in to the site, doesn't look like any of the rosters are currently filled in?
 
21Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Wed, Jul 08, 2015, 18:10
Right. I jumped the gun on that one. Later will do...
 
22TD
      ID: 55540220
      Wed, Jul 08, 2015, 20:08
Don't we use MFL for the draft? Not drafttime.
 
23Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Wed, Jul 08, 2015, 20:43
Right you are TD! Just checked draftime and our last draft there was 2012.

Good catch!

Thanks to anyone else who catches a mistake on my part!!
 
24Promize
      ID: 3365896
      Thu, Jul 09, 2015, 07:58
In

Promize / Seattle Seahawks
 
25beastiemiked
      ID: 5911312710
      Thu, Jul 09, 2015, 22:50
bmd/Houston Texans

No for me. Somebody should do well with my team.
 
26skinneej
      ID: 11192115
      Mon, Jul 13, 2015, 10:55
Green Bay Packers are IN
 
27Slackjawed Yokel
      ID: 38502923
      Fri, Jul 17, 2015, 20:46
In -jags.
 
28WG
      ID: 539431423
      Tue, Jul 21, 2015, 23:26
In - KC
 
29beastiemiked
      ID: 5911312710
      Tue, Jul 28, 2015, 23:44
If it's not too late, I've changed my mind. I'm in(Houston Texans). I thought my schedule was going to be busier but had some jobs fall through so it won't. I should be able to devote enough time for G24. Sorry for the confusion.
 
30Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Wed, Jul 29, 2015, 21:08
Beastie you're in!!! Glad you are staying!!!!!
 
31Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Fri, Jul 31, 2015, 13:58
Dues notices sent out to all who owe. Please pay or let us know that you are not playing this season.

Thanks.
 
32Slizz
      ID: 325491823
      Tue, Aug 04, 2015, 11:34
In - Buffalo
 
33judy
      Dude
      ID: 7771722
      Thu, Aug 06, 2015, 14:15
only on left to sign in. has been contacted
 
34 deepsnapper
      ID: 2474970
      Fri, Aug 07, 2015, 01:51
Philidelphia Eagles are in! I spoke to Judy a couple of week ago and interrupted her vacation (sorry)!

I lost the league invitation on my phone. Could I please have a redo, or can it be posted here? All I get on the site is for 2014 and prior.

Having eye surgery next month, but I don't anticipate any issues other than spelling.

Looking forward to 2015 starting this weekend with the HOF game!

peace,

Roy
 
36beastiemiked
      ID: 12651297
      Fri, Aug 07, 2015, 09:57
I didn't get a dues notice. Am I square?
 
37Ref
      ID: 55156513
      Fri, Aug 07, 2015, 11:49
Sorry everyone. I am out.
 
38judy
      Dude
      ID: 7771722
      Sat, Aug 08, 2015, 15:06
Geeze, Ref. Sorry to see you go. This league was your creation and it is so unique. Hope all is well.
 
39judy
      Dude
      ID: 7771722
      Sat, Aug 08, 2015, 15:12
I have this from ref in the 2014 thread as the 2015 draft order:

Final order of finish. For draft order, this will be inverted.

1. Bengals
2. Giants
3. Bears
4. Chargers
5. Saints
6. Ravens
7. Cowboys
8. Texans
9. Jets
10. Packers
11. 49ers
12. Colts
13. Seahawks
14. Jags
15. Cards
16. Broncos
17. Vikings
18. Chiefs
19. Browns
20. Raiders
21. Bills
22. Eagles
23. Lions
24. Panthers
 
40Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Sun, Aug 09, 2015, 19:16
We need a replacement manager...
Suggestions?
 
41Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Sun, Aug 09, 2015, 19:25
Anyone thought about draft/keeper dates yet?

Here is a suggestion:

Keepers due on thread and MFL by Monday August 17 noon.
Draft to begin Monday August 24 at 8 am. Draft to open for early birds on Friday night, August 21.

Need your thoughts.
 
42Nerfherders
      ID: 2211442615
      Sun, Aug 09, 2015, 20:52
Sounds fine to me
 
43beastiemiked
      ID: 12651297
      Sun, Aug 09, 2015, 22:37
Don't open it early. Whenever it starts the clock starts running. I think we started earlier last year.
 
44beastiemiked
      ID: 12651297
      Sun, Aug 09, 2015, 22:40
So dues are 25 a year? Nobody paid last year? So did the winners not receive anything? Will new owners have to pay 2 years dues. I think accounting should be our number 1 priority right now.
 
45GO
      ID: 1478923
      Mon, Aug 10, 2015, 00:08
Looks good, thanks Judy.
I can't access anything at work anymore, anyone who has extra time to help Judy it would be appreciated.

Does Bean do football? He's helped a lot in baseball.
 
46Doug
      ID: 19613816
      Mon, Aug 10, 2015, 11:41
Can we do the lottery ASAP? Might be looking to make some pre-keeper-deadline trades, but need to know where I'm drafting first.
 
47 CT
      ID: 117531016
      Mon, Aug 10, 2015, 17:53
Hi Judy - 17th for keepers and 24th for draft is ok by me. Sorry to see Ref go -
Unfortunately, I am not in a position to help manage this year-but with a little notice, would be happy to consider in the future. Thanks-
 
48Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Mon, Aug 10, 2015, 18:12
Beastie. I am working on accounting. If you look at the spreadsheet sent out a few weeks ago, winnings were listed as credits so several mangers owed nothing or have a credit. A new owner from last year owes 2014 and 2015. The new owner this year owes 2015 dues.

Trust me, I am trying to get folks to pay up, but I do not have much leverage..

I have been emailing them privately... Might really start to pester them soon...five people owe dues.
 
49Toral
      ID: 1753514
      Mon, Aug 10, 2015, 20:20
1. The season starts September 10 this year. Beginning the draft August 24 would be beginning after preseason week 2. MFL drafts go fast, do they not? Could we start August 31, after preseason week 3, and be ready by opening day?

2. Starting "early bird" drafting on the Friday at the beginning of a weekend of preseason games caused problems last year -- people wanting to see the outcome of the game in which their expected #1 choice was playing before picking. It might be best avoided?
 
50Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Mon, Aug 10, 2015, 21:15
Keeper declaration page is here:

http://rotoguru1.com/cgi-bin/read.pl?board=footst&thread=1119&lastpost=1439255669

I goofed. G24 belongs on football leagues not forum thread.

We will move in season stuff over there...
 
51Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Mon, Aug 10, 2015, 21:58
The draft needs to be finished by Labor Day weekend, preferably by Friday September 4th so we can set things up and do the waiver thing.

Starting August 31 only gives us 5 days for the draft.

However...

I just checked last year and the first round finished August 24 and the draft ended August 30. We did about 2 rounds a day and after round 3 there were at least 13 predraft auto picks per round.

If we can keep to that schedule it would work...11 managers averaged under 40 minutes per pick...

I really do not want to be pushing people to draft over the Holiday weekend. They are often out and about, me included.


 
52Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Mon, Aug 10, 2015, 22:01
So it could be keepers August 24.

Draft opens untimed Friday, August 28 so that managers could draft when their #1 remains uninjured. Need to open it so people can set predraft picks!

Draft opens timed (3 hour limit) at 8:00 EDT Monday August 31. Pause is midnight. No weekend pause if we get there...

How does that look?
 
53TD
      ID: 55540220
      Mon, Aug 10, 2015, 22:38
I like the keeper/draft schedule Judy proposed in post #52. Looks similar to what we did last season when labor day was Sept 1.
 
54Toral
      ID: 1753514
      Tue, Aug 11, 2015, 09:45
Looks good to me.
 
55deepsnapper
      ID: 2072119
      Tue, Aug 11, 2015, 10:02
Judy - (52) Dates and times look good to me too.

I am truly sorry to see Ref leave the league. He was an original Best of luck.

 
56 Kyle
      Sustainer
      ID: 052753312
      Tue, Aug 11, 2015, 16:16
Not sure if you still are looking for a replacement or not but I'm looking to get in another league to supplement my addiction. I'd like to think I'm a familiar face from RIFC and there's a few of you in F101 as well. I know I'm not Ref, but hopefully I'm a suitable substitute.
 
57Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Aug 13, 2015, 15:40
I will be running the lottery momentarily.
 
58Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Aug 13, 2015, 15:47
Lottery winner: Lions

2nd: Broncos

3rd: Chiefs

4th: Panthers
 
59Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Thu, Aug 13, 2015, 16:43
Guys,

I will be working on the draft order this weekend. It is a straight snake.

Anyone want to check the trade/draft exchange list from 2014 and post it? Thanks.

Deepsnapper emailed that he would be posting his keeper list tonight. Who will be next?

Right now the schedule calls for keepers to be due August 24. The draft to begin August 31 officially, but open for pre set picks on the 28th. Speak now or forever hold your tongue if you disagreed with these dates.

Also there are a few of you have not paid. Don't make me publish your names. Please pay up. I will be sending you individual emails in the next day or so in addition to the ones you have already received.
 
60Toral
      ID: 1753514
      Thu, Aug 13, 2015, 16:59
No snake drafts in this league.
 
61Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Thu, Aug 13, 2015, 17:10
Oops did not mean snake. Too busy trying get stuff organized. You are correct. Wonder who else will notice.

Thanks for paying attention toral!

NO SNAKE. Lottery then 5-24, then 1-24, etc.
 
62valkyrie
      ID: 497441316
      Thu, Aug 13, 2015, 17:44
Are you kidding me last time I had a shitty team I dropped down 2 places and missed Foster by one slot for the back up clown at Miami for 3 years (since retired I think). Now I should be #1 and drop as far as I can so I miss the RB's again all because I lost Bradford, C. Johnson and Cruz to injury last year. Not like I punked the league I did win 3 games w/o them. Honestly given what I had to start with 4 or 5 years ago I don't deserve this. Where am I supposed to post my keepers- I can't find a 2015 RG24 keeper forum.
 
63 deepsnapper
      ID: 87391318
      Thu, Aug 13, 2015, 20:01
Valkyrie - I feel your pain my man. Going 7-20 was never in my plans. The Lions were snake-bit too. Bottom line is we had our butts handed to us by the AFC in league play.

Didn't Foster sign with Houston as a F/A practice squad plaer in 2009? Was he available in the G24 2010 draft?

2015 G24 keeper declarations

I'm taking a flier on Ray Rice unless someone makes me an offer I can't refuse. Gambling on a RB is always an option, but worth it sometime.
 
64PeteN.
      ID: 8550318
      Thu, Aug 13, 2015, 20:14
Timeline looks good to me. I'm ready for some football! Go Cowboys!
 
65GO
      ID: 444591621
      Thu, Aug 13, 2015, 21:34
Yeah, well my last top pick bumped me out of the top few picks and into David Wilson. And now I am the first team to miss the playoffs. The worst place to be.
 
66Valkyrie
      ID: 30611715
      Thu, Aug 13, 2015, 21:45
GO I would prefer to be the first team out of the playoffs to 3-23 with the fourth pick. At least you have 9 keepers. Whatever maybe they will all get hurt again and I can finally get an RB next year.LOL
Last year I had pick 21 with no RB's so miracles do happen. It's just that I have been waiting for a shot at a quality RB ever since I joined this league amd I didn't really have anything to start with then either. Oh well I have had my bitch.
 
67Slizz
      ID: 325491823
      Thu, Aug 13, 2015, 22:24
Since MFL is dreadful to navigate, could you please post who isn't being kept as well?
 
68GO
      ID: 444591621
      Thu, Aug 13, 2015, 22:41
I actually don't have 9 keepers. More like 4 good players and not a lot else. I overacheived but not enough to make the playoffs. So post those extra fringe keepers!

Ugh MFL... where the heck do i find a list of manager names next to which team they run so I can make trade offers?
 
69Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Thu, Aug 13, 2015, 22:50
Go to your home page, rosters and all the rosters are listed with team names and manager. Piece of cake -- chocolate!

If you need a URL, here it is -- sorry that my iPad does not make an actual link to it.

http://football7.myfantasyleague.com/2015/options?L=39722&O=07
 
70Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Thu, Aug 13, 2015, 22:51
Please welcome. Kyle as the new manager of the Indianapolis Colts!
 
71Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Thu, Aug 13, 2015, 22:54
See, I love MFL because I think like a MAC. It find it incredibly easy to find the stuff I need.

If you think like Windows you probably want it to be more complicated and not at all intuitive...
 
72GO
      ID: 444591621
      Thu, Aug 13, 2015, 23:02
Yeah, I just found it on the Roster page, thanks. But the intuitive way to do it would be a summarized page called Managers or something with team name, manager name and emails in one spot.
 
73deepsnapper
      ID: 87391318
      Fri, Aug 14, 2015, 02:15
Link to MFL 2015 G24 Keepers Page

Link to 2015 MFL Rosters before Rollover

TGIF!
 
74youngroman
      ID: 57047243
      Fri, Aug 14, 2015, 03:22
GO - you mean something like G24 Franchise Information ?
 
75Tree
      ID: 34758146
      Fri, Aug 14, 2015, 07:58
Second pick? That does seem like a lottery win, considering I don't think I finished that poorly.

I am highly doubtful I'm moving that pick, but I'm always interested in talking trade, be it for players or other draft picks.
 
76Kyle
      Leader
      ID: 052753312
      Fri, Aug 14, 2015, 09:44
I realize this is a deep league and all that, but I'm not sure how this team finished middle of the pack last year. Austin Davis and Blake Bortles as QB and not a single WR scoring over 100 points? I looked at the draft expecting a top 7 pick. My defense is good though!
 
77Frick
      ID: 147221011
      Fri, Aug 14, 2015, 10:47
At least you have starting QB. While that seems like a given, it is not in this league.
 
78 WG
      ID: 552431321
      Fri, Aug 14, 2015, 10:51
Anyone interested in Jimmy Graham? I'm happy to roll with Kelce and am open to moving Jimmy for help elsewhere. Let me know.
 
79Kyle
      Leader
      ID: 052753312
      Fri, Aug 14, 2015, 14:06
Just to double check because I haven't seen anything in the rules and I don't know if there's a set that written out somewhere else.

I can't keep say 8 and then get an extra draft pick earlier in the draft? It's 9 no matter what, and if I don't pick 9 you'll pick a 9th for me.
 
80Promize
      ID: 497361313
      Fri, Aug 14, 2015, 14:33
I know, no early pick... I can't remember if you can get a pick at the end...

But definitely can't get a 1st pick just because you have 8...

If that was the case, everyone would do it and grab the future stars. :)
 
81Doug
      ID: 11740813
      Fri, Aug 14, 2015, 18:34
It's not hard to trade for someone keeper worthy without overpaying... not a stud, but young QB-RB-WR with upside, tier 2 IDPs, etc.
 
82Building 7
      ID: 377311419
      Fri, Aug 14, 2015, 20:32
Welcome to the league coach Kyle. And good luck.
 
83PeteN.
      ID: 8550318
      Fri, Aug 14, 2015, 23:50
Welcome to the league Kyle. Sorry to see Ref go. He was an original member and one of the founders with rfs.
 
84 deepsnapper
      ID: 55732155
      Sat, Aug 15, 2015, 07:33
(79) Kyle, welcome to the gang! The "League Scoring and Team Bylaws are located from the League Page the MFL Reports Header under Rules Subsection.

Quicklinks are:

Scoring rules

League Bylaws

I doubt if the Bylaws have been updated to reflect the IR roster position added this year. There are specific requirements a player has to meet to use the slot and also when a payer can be added back to the active roster.

I can't honestly say I have looked at it the past few years, but if in doubt, post a question to the forum and you'll get an answer.

Again, welcome aboard Kyle !!!
 
85 deepsnapper
      ID: 87391318
      Sat, Aug 15, 2015, 18:00
G24 Draft Order:
Straight - NOT serpentine

Round 1)

01. Lions
02. Broncos
03. Chiefs
04. Panthers
05. Eagles
06. Bills
07. Raiders
08. Browns
09. Vikings
10. Cards
11. Jags
12. Seahawks
13. Colts
14. 49ers
15. Packers
16. Jets
17. Texans
18. Cowboys
19. Ravens
20. Saints
21. Chargers
22. Bears
23. Giants
24. Bengals

Round 2+ (standard order)

01. Panthers
02. Lions
03. Eagles
04. Bills
05. Raiders
06. Browns
07. Chiefs
08. Vikings
09. Broncos
10. Cards
11. Jags
12. Seahawks
13. Colts
14. 49ers
15. Packers
16. Jets
17. Texans
18. Cowboys
19. Ravens
20. Saints
21. Chargers
22. Bears
23. Giants
24. Bengals

No Trades or Swapped Picks are included. These must be documented and added to 11 Round schedule.

Methodology (I hope) is reverse order of finish documented in (39) with adjustments to top 4 lottery selection first picks in Rd 1 (58).

Please by all means, check the order to ensure accuracy. (A cararact in one eye and implant in the other. ha ha) - whose blind?
 
86Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Sat, Aug 15, 2015, 23:20
Did we add an IR slot? I know RIFC did, but did we? I guess I'll have to look back thru the 2014 thread...
 
87Tree
      ID: 4510222518
      Sat, Aug 15, 2015, 23:23
To confirm... Keepers are due august 24?
 
88GO
      ID: 39727167
      Sun, Aug 16, 2015, 08:27
I don't think we added an IR slot, but I would very much in favor of one.
 
89Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Sun, Aug 16, 2015, 13:56
87. Yes
 
90 deepsnapper
      ID: 87391318
      Sun, Aug 16, 2015, 19:25
I think the Injured Reserve (IR) blot would require a league vote. We have such a lean Waiver Wire as it is including byes, taking potentially 24 players off the W/W would decrease it further. I personally would not be in favor of such a change.

Also rules related to processing of an IR would have to be adopted. IIRC, a rule change requires 2/3 majority. Brain strain!!!
 
91Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Sun, Aug 16, 2015, 21:16
No time for a rule change...foregetaboutIt...
 
92Kyle
      Leader
      ID: 052753312
      Mon, Aug 17, 2015, 11:26
I'm not sure where to post a trade for this league but I've already completed one.

Ravens give:
9th Round Pick

Colts give:
Montee Ball
11th Pick
 
93Building 7
      ID: 2011541213
      Mon, Aug 17, 2015, 14:05
The trade is confirmed. Can't figure out how to do it in MFL. We may be too early.
 
94Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Mon, Aug 17, 2015, 17:55
I think I have to input the draft order first. Will try and check it out.
 
95Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Mon, Aug 17, 2015, 17:59
Trade are under for owner--> trades. I think Ravens will have to toss in a loser to balance the roster count. I might have to open the abilities.

Try it and let me know.

The draft order swap is later...
 
96Building 7
      ID: 247521719
      Mon, Aug 17, 2015, 20:53
It says: Franchise Owners Do Not Have Trading Rights In This League.
 
97Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Mon, Aug 17, 2015, 22:09
Ok I can fix that!
 
98Building 7
      ID: 247521719
      Mon, Aug 17, 2015, 22:33
OK. Thanks. It's working now. Kyle just needs to go in and accept it.
 
99judy
      Dude
      ID: 7771722
      Wed, Aug 19, 2015, 12:52
I have set the draft order asper deep snappers list in 85.

Speak now or forever hold your peace...

note draft order does NOT reflect any trades you made. The MFL software will put those in once you set and agree to the trade.
 
100judy
      Dude
      ID: 7771722
      Wed, Aug 19, 2015, 12:56
2014 trades:

Here is the website link for all trades made last season. Many involved 2015 draft picks.

Please read through carefully and use MFL to make the appropriate draft pick swap. Your job, not mine!!

http://football7.myfantasyleague.com/2014/options?L=34962&O=03&TYPE=TRADE&FRANCHISE=0000&DAYS=360
 
101 Tree
      ID: 161036918
      Wed, Aug 19, 2015, 14:34
Kenny Stills, Jonas Gray, and Steven Ridley are on my bubble. Stills is a top 50 dynasty receiver, and hard to part with if i do so.

i'm interested in draft pick deals, or possible a 2 or 3 for 1, if a team needs depth.
 
102mjd
      ID: 23182817
      Wed, Aug 19, 2015, 20:46
Some confusion regarding my trade last year.

The trade where I got the CAR D for a pick. I mistakenly accepted offers from both the Lions and the Bengals.

Only one is valid, but I don't recall which one. The other trade needs to be reversed.
 
103Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Wed, Aug 19, 2015, 20:58
Mjd

I have no idea...

See if lions or bengals know...
 
104Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Wed, Aug 19, 2015, 21:00
Should I reverse both until it is sorted out or wait to see if one is valid??
 
105mjd
      ID: 23182817
      Wed, Aug 19, 2015, 21:16
Actually Found my 2014 transaction page and both are correct.

I got the CAR D in trade from the Lions on 10/23

I then traded them to the Bengals on 11/4

I then picked then back up on wavers on 11/29.

I couldn't figure out why they are on my team today, so apologies for the confusion.
 
106mjd
      ID: 23182817
      Wed, Aug 19, 2015, 21:40
I have a trade with slizz

slizz gets Percy Harvin and my 11.05 from the Raiders in last year's Alex Smith trade.

I get pick 7.05 from slizz.

I'll add this trade to MFL once Doug completes our traded picks.
 
107mjd
      ID: 23182817
      Wed, Aug 19, 2015, 21:50
Also, I've changed my position on eliminating D/ST. I now support it, but not enough to lead the charge to change it.

This is something that's been tossed around the last few years and a few people felt pretty strong about eliminating them.

We did attempt to mute the scoring last year. Was that enough or does it still need to be eliminated?
 
108Slizz
      ID: 325491823
      Wed, Aug 19, 2015, 22:02
Confirmed!
 
109Tree
      ID: 161036918
      Wed, Aug 19, 2015, 22:34
i would totally be in favor of eliminated DST. i don't understand the point of having one, when you have IDPs.
 
110Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Wed, Aug 19, 2015, 22:43
You wanna discuss DST?
Please wait until January.
Not going there this season.
This is your commish speaking!
 
111 Doug
      ID: 19613816
      Wed, Aug 19, 2015, 23:30
I'm leaning towards WR Donte Moncrief as my odd man out on keepers. He's currently ranked #35 dynasty WR on footballguys.com (between Jarvis Landry and Jeremy Maclin)... notably higher than guys like Stills and Harvin. Let me know if interested in adding him to your squad.
 
112Tree
      ID: 161036918
      Thu, Aug 20, 2015, 10:22
well, as long as we're comparing, Dynasty League Football has Stills at 47, Harvin at 50, and Moncrief at 51.

 
113 CT
      ID: 117531016
      Thu, Aug 20, 2015, 18:56
Denver and Cleveland complete the 2014 trade:
Denver received AJ Green at time of trade.
Cleveland received Deandre Hopkins at time of trade.
2015 first round pick from Denver (acquired via Seattle) goes to Cleveland. Pick 1.12
2015 11th round pick from Cleveland to Denver. Pick 11.06.

Thanks-
ct
 
114Slizz
      ID: 325491823
      Sun, Aug 23, 2015, 07:56
TRADE ANNOUNCEMENT

San Francisco:
Anthony Barr, LB, MIN
SF 2015 11th

Buffalo:
Buffalo 2015 9th
Buffalo drops Patrick Willis
 
115GO
      ID: 39727167
      Sun, Aug 23, 2015, 22:11
Keepers due tomorrow? noon?

I still need to buy like 3 keepers - so people can feel free to email me names and what round you would sell them for. I will sort through any tonight til midnight or first thing in the morning.

Looking for any offensive RB/WR/TE types worth starting.
 
116Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Sun, Aug 23, 2015, 22:48
Select Keepers Mon Aug 24 11:45:00 p.m. ET 2015

Remember to select them for your team on MFL


Reports --> franchise --> keepers
 
117Tree
      ID: 161036918
      Mon, Aug 24, 2015, 08:14
apparently, because it's past the deadline, i can't select them on MFL?
 
118Tree
      ID: 161036918
      Mon, Aug 24, 2015, 10:58
ok, now it looks like i can.

trade announcement.

Denver trades WR Kenny Stills to the New York Jets for their 3.16 pick.
 
121 Doug
      ID: 19613816
      Mon, Aug 24, 2015, 12:06
Moncrief still available... also open to moving Gio Bernard for a 1st rounder (depends where in the round... may need to add something additional if it's not an early enough pick).

I can also toss in a keeper-worthy IDP like LB Mayo, Tevathan, or top-5 DL Dunlap to any trade
 
122Doug
      ID: 19613816
      Mon, Aug 24, 2015, 13:56
Also willing to move Latimer instead of Moncrief if that suits anyone's fancy.
 
123skinneej
      ID: 14911313
      Mon, Aug 24, 2015, 14:37
Looking to trade WR Steve Smith for a pick upgrade
 
124mjd
      ID: 23182817
      Mon, Aug 24, 2015, 16:46
I'm still looking for another keeper, but someone real cheap.

Don't forget, this is for someone that you will otherwise lose for nothing.

No interest in S Smith though.
 
125Building 7
      ID: 247521719
      Mon, Aug 24, 2015, 16:58
TRADE ANNOUNCEMENT

Baltimore Ravens gave up Year 2015 Draft Pick 7.19
Indianapolis Colts gave up Helu, Roy OAK RB; Year 2015 Draft Pick 8.13
 
126mjd
      ID: 23182817
      Mon, Aug 24, 2015, 17:02
Now that's the kind of cheap I'm talking about.
 
128judy
      Dude
      ID: 7771722
      Tue, Aug 25, 2015, 07:34
to log in your keepers on MFL

Reports --> franchise--> keepers (last one in the list)
 
129Promize
      ID: 35392417
      Wed, Aug 26, 2015, 07:40
Can we open up the draft and start? No time limit?
 
130Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Wed, Aug 26, 2015, 08:08
Are all the keepers selected by owners on MFL???

Anyone who did not will be sorely disappointed...

I hope to get to G24 today. Also working on AA in draft mode (already made a huge draft error) and RG14, so have to spread my free time around, G24 schedule is almost entered.

Promise you can predraft now...


 
131Tree
      ID: 161036918
      Wed, Aug 26, 2015, 08:17
would love to see the draft actually start today, if possible. on a personal level, it's my one "office day" a week, so i can actually get things accomplished in a draft. lol
 
132Promize
      ID: 35392417
      Wed, Aug 26, 2015, 10:15
Well my pre-draft is co-dependent on the first pick. :)


I also think you can trade at anytime during the draft can't you?
 
133Kyle
      Leader
      ID: 052753312
      Wed, Aug 26, 2015, 11:43
Is there a place to see everyone's keepers on MFL? I've not done an MFL keeper league before so I'm not sure if they list them out somewhere.
 
134Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Wed, Aug 26, 2015, 12:37
Kyle, once I hit the keep keepers button you will see them.

Otherwise look at the thread.

 
135Nerfherders
      ID: 161121811
      Wed, Aug 26, 2015, 12:59
I'm ready when you are. :)
 
136 Doug
      ID: 19613816
      Wed, Aug 26, 2015, 13:06
Depending on first few picks I may be willing to move back a bit in first round from 1.07 when the time comes.

If you think you might be interested in moving up, go ahead and email me now so we can have preliminary discussion and have you on speed dial when the time comes.
 
137deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Wed, Aug 26, 2015, 16:09
If people would follow the rules and post their TEAM NAME along with who they're NOT keeping it would be appreciated. Might get more trade offers too. JMO.

I for one am not ready yet. trying to muddle though the forum thread. Guru added the delete function for you're threads for a reasn. Multiples Keeper lists are a pain.
 
138judy
      Dude
      ID: 7771722
      Wed, Aug 26, 2015, 17:17
need team doug...
 
139Slackjawed Yokel
      ID: 38502923
      Wed, Aug 26, 2015, 21:59
Looks like no Browns keepers listed in the thread... Were they entered in mfl?

Also... Should we let valkyrie have Charles Johnson instead of Calvin Johnson?
 
140Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Wed, Aug 26, 2015, 22:40
Not happy that Browns did not post in thread. On MFL though.
 
141judy
      Dude
      ID: 7771722
      Wed, Aug 26, 2015, 23:28
I emailed Valk about #139

At this point I have no idea...
 
142judy
      Dude
      ID: 7771722
      Wed, Aug 26, 2015, 23:30
OK on MFL check list...
 
143Slackjawed Yokel
      ID: 38502923
      Wed, Aug 26, 2015, 23:51
I was joking about megatron... Can we get the Browns' keepers added to the other thread?
 
144Doug
      ID: 11740813
      Thu, Aug 27, 2015, 00:04
Oakland Raiders
 
145deepsnapper
      ID: 57725278
      Thu, Aug 27, 2015, 09:28
Valkyrie has a spelling problem (hard to believe I'm saying that.) ha ha ha

Looking at the 2014 rosters from the link in <73> and:
1) Charles Johnson is Calvin Johnson. (nickname?...nah)

2) Antoine Boldin is Anquan Boldin (???)

No post for Cleveland by CT... I don't blame the dog pound
 
146Doug
      ID: 19613816
      Thu, Aug 27, 2015, 09:31
Yeah, a few obvious keepers for Cleveland, but lots of I-don't-know-who for last few keeper slots (coulda improved those for some mid-round picks)
 
147deepsnapper
      ID: 57725278
      Thu, Aug 27, 2015, 10:35
Doug - I think Judy said CT put his Keepers in MFL, I don't think Commish has rolled over Keepers yet.

I'm ready to roll.

 
148 CT
      ID: 117531016
      Thu, Aug 27, 2015, 12:16
Sorry gang. Set in MNF last weekend, but missed the keeper thread and got side tracked on business this week. Keepers posted in thread now.

I am good with draft whenever. Saturday I am MIA all day. I'll set a Q just in case.

Thanks-
ct
 
149judy
      Dude
      ID: 7771722
      Thu, Aug 27, 2015, 14:05
Doug checking keepers. Will roll when he gives the OK, assuming I am near computer. Should be no later than tonight.

Thanks Doug
 
150Valkyrie
      ID: 77522719
      Thu, Aug 27, 2015, 20:52
Just still upset about missing out on my RB for the second time in 4 years. Just can't seem to get over it. Oh I guess I'll end up with the Oakland WR whatever his name is LOL.
 
151Doug
      ID: 19613816
      Thu, Aug 27, 2015, 22:50
FYI, Buffalo and KC failed to set their keepers on the MFL site (we'll get it fixed). Other 22 teams look good.
 
152Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Thu, Aug 27, 2015, 23:04
Would like some input for consequences of teams not posting keepers on MFL.

They are very lucky that Doug volunteered to check over the lists. It's not like they didn't know the deadlines.

We just can't have that level of non cooperation. There is too much to do to set up this league every season. Owners should have some responsibility for its success.

That said, I sincerely hope that the draft goes smoothly...


 
153WG
      ID: 552431321
      Fri, Aug 28, 2015, 00:59
I thought I did pick keepers. I still have the safari page open saying keepers saved.
 
154Promize
      ID: 35392417
      Fri, Aug 28, 2015, 07:07
Two highly active managers on the boards and many other leagues I'm in with them. My guess it was just a glitch on the website. 24 teams something bound to go wrong.

I could probably enter them all before people wake up this morning if needed. :)

Good job Judy and Doug getting us all ready...

As commish for 10-12 teams, 3 of them, it is hard enough to get those managers all set. 24 teams has to be hair pulling!
 
155Doug
      ID: 19613816
      Fri, Aug 28, 2015, 09:54
Yeah, to me this is just part of the deal. If managers consistently violate rules over and over again over a period of time, that's a problem. But one or two teams either forgetting or having a website glitch ain't too bad for 24 teams, and IMO does not require any sort of discipline. WG and Slizz have track records of being reliable managers and members of this community.

OK, so I'm setting draft to untimed and letting it start now (I think that's what I'm supposed to do, let me know if not)...
 
156beastiemiked
      ID: 12651297
      Fri, Aug 28, 2015, 10:19
There should be no consequence.

Can we get an accounting update? Have all teams paid? What's the prize pool for the year going to be? Thanks for the hard work commishes!
 
157judy
      Dude
      ID: 7771722
      Fri, Aug 28, 2015, 13:23
beastie -- let me get through the draft first...

one owner left to pay, have been in contact, have plans...
 
158Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Fri, Aug 28, 2015, 18:58
My turn, no one I want l left, have list, it sinks. Give me some time...

AZ cards
 
159Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Fri, Aug 28, 2015, 20:29
Everyone I look at in injured!!!
10 is a horrible slot. I guess I will address a position of offense that I need and see what happens,

This is gonna be ugly. Don't "yell" at me...
 
160Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Fri, Aug 28, 2015, 20:46
Whatever, no idea who to choose. Blind button...
 
161deepsnapper
      ID: 57725278
      Sat, Aug 29, 2015, 13:39
I will be out for about 3 hours helping the lady of the house shop. should be back by 4pm cst. Have a queue for RD 2 (or 11).

She's torn the rotor cuff in her good arm. We're a pair. ha ha.

Please don't let me get auto'd on rd 3.

cell number is in MFL if I come up early. At least I'll be able to see today. Was "refracted" yesterday and blind as heck until 4am

 
162deepsnapper
      ID: 57725278
      Sat, Aug 29, 2015, 14:08
Didn't realize I was so close to RD 2 pick (already made now) I set up round 3 now and am OK until round 4 at this point. Thanks for all your help.

Roy
 
163GO
      ID: 39727167
      Sat, Aug 29, 2015, 14:33
Drives me freaking nuts that picked players don't auto come off My Draft List.
 
164beastiemiked
      ID: 12651297
      Sat, Aug 29, 2015, 14:36
If it gets to me in round 2 I won't be picking until my kids go down for a nap.
 
165Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Sat, Aug 29, 2015, 15:16
GO I agree with that!!!
 
166GO
      ID: 432341310
      Sun, Aug 30, 2015, 13:32
Selling a combo of picks in this draft plus my #1 pick next season for a starting RB.
 
167Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Sun, Aug 30, 2015, 15:05
Wow!
 
168mjd
      ID: 23182817
      Sun, Aug 30, 2015, 23:18
163, 165.

I sent my yearly suggestion for game site improvement:


---------- 8/30/2015 1:08:32 PM -------- Original Question

Why can't the system remove a player from My Draft List once they get picked and are no longer available?

Same with predrafted lists.


--- Reply ---

Hi Michael -

When going to the For Owners > Draft these players are removed from the My Draft List as they are acquired.

They will not be removed on the For Owners > My Draft List as that is your set list.

As for pre-drafts, the only time you pre-draft is if you do not expect to be able to make the next pick, so you would use the For Owners > Draft to make your selection and then it will automatically pick when it is your turn. So you are not intended to re-enter the draft room and therefore not removed.

- Julie

*** REMINDER - do not reply to this Email! ***

Instead, click on the following link to view your original question and answer:
http://football.myfantasyleague.com/2015/my_tickets?L=38430&TICKET_ID=158995
From there, you may reply to this ticket again, if necessary.


Same BS answer as the last 2 years.

Maybe if we bombard them with requests.
 
169Slizz
      ID: 325491823
      Mon, Aug 31, 2015, 11:25
TRADE ANNOUNCEMENT

Indianapolis Colts Trade:
3.13
9.13

Buffalo Bills Trade:
3.19
8.04

Kyle, please confirm.
 
170Kyle
      Leader
      ID: 052753312
      Mon, Aug 31, 2015, 11:42
Confirmed
 
171deepsnapper
      ID: 56732309
      Mon, Aug 31, 2015, 16:48
<168> I've been playing MFL leagues since 2009 `& I've NEVER had a queued player removed from a pending Q in Football or Baseball!

It is the Cow Defacation procedure process ... IMO (and I grew up on a farm in N. Texas- I KNOW what it smells like, don't ask me to shovel it now.
 
172mjd
      ID: 23182817
      Mon, Aug 31, 2015, 17:47
Draftime removes players from a queue when they are picked.
 
173GO
      ID: 39727167
      Mon, Aug 31, 2015, 22:16
Yes, Draftime beautifully updates things so I don't have the extra work of tracking who was picked and taking them off my list. Of course its dumb to pay for just upgrade that when the draft utility is comparable otherwise.

I also complained to MFL. My response
Thanks for the feedback. It is something that others have expressed as well, so we have it on our list to make that option more robust and user friendly for next season!
 
174deepsnapper
      ID: 56732309
      Mon, Aug 31, 2015, 23:33
FYI:

Average Time Waiting For Pick To Be Made


Franchise

Avg. Wait Time

# Picks

New York Jets less than a minute 2
Baltimore Ravens 1 hour, 15 minutes 2
Buffalo Bills 1 hour, 33 minutes 5
Cincinnati Bengals 34 minutes 3
Cleveland Browns less than a minute 5
Denver Broncos 6 minutes 4
Indianapolis Colts 3 minutes 3
Jacksonville Jaguars 5 minutes 3
New York Giants 17 minutes 3
Philadelphia Eagles less than a minute 4
Arizona Cardinals 51 minutes 3
Kansas City Chiefs 7 hours, 27 minutes 2
Carolina Panthers less than a minute 4
San Francisco 49ers 58 minutes 3
Seattle Seahawks 21 minutes 3
Chicago Bears 13 minutes 3
Dallas Cowboys less than a minute 3
New Orleans Saints 27 minutes 3
Detroit Lions 24 minutes 3
Green Bay Packers 3 hours, 27 minutes 3
Minnesota Vikings 23 minutes 3
Oakland Raiders 2 hours, 14 minutes 5
Houston Texans 6 hours, 49 minutes 3
San Diego Chargers less than a minute

Mot many picks to go by, but a couple of teams are over 6 hours. Are we on the cumulative clock?
 
175judy
      Dude
      ID: 7771722
      Tue, Sep 01, 2015, 07:47
no clock, no clock stoppage
 
176deepsnapper
      ID: 56732309
      Tue, Sep 01, 2015, 09:59
Thanks Judy, I didn't think so, Only a couple managers are slower, and 2-3 hrs max for a pick is pretty good. :)
 
177Kyle
      Leader
      ID: 052753312
      Tue, Sep 01, 2015, 10:58
Hopefully we pick up the pace a little bit, I had nearly 48 hours to wait between rounds 2 and 3.
 
178judy
      Dude
      ID: 7771722
      Tue, Sep 01, 2015, 12:44
Draft didn't start until 8 am monday officially..
 
179Kyle
      Leader
      ID: 052753312
      Tue, Sep 01, 2015, 13:40
Ah I didn't realize that. No problem there.
 
180GO
      ID: 432341310
      Tue, Sep 01, 2015, 13:51
Record officially set. I pick Amaro. Less than an hour later he goes on Injured Reserve.
 
181Tree
      ID: 161036918
      Wed, Sep 02, 2015, 11:35
please note trade that was made between GO and me.

i traded Sankey and my 2016 10th rounder for Amaro and his 2016 1st rounder.
 
182Tree
      ID: 161036918
      Wed, Sep 02, 2015, 16:07
could someone remind me of the IDP requirements please?
 
183Building 7
      ID: 2011541213
      Wed, Sep 02, 2015, 17:12
You need one of:
DL
LB
DB
and then two more in any category above.

 
184Tree
      ID: 161036918
      Wed, Sep 02, 2015, 17:16
awesome. thank you.

 
185mjd
      ID: 23182817
      Thu, Sep 03, 2015, 18:23
Pete's Q must have run out. All his previous picks have been auto.
 
186PeteN.
      ID: 8550318
      Thu, Sep 03, 2015, 18:51
Sorry for the delay. My queue was emptied. Pick made
 
187Tree
      ID: 161036918
      Sat, Sep 05, 2015, 23:45
good to see two of my players cut today. one of whom i suspect may end up in a better situation, the other of whom i suspect will retire.
 
189Nerfherders
      ID: 2211442615
      Sun, Sep 06, 2015, 13:18
I am in the same boat with no picks left, in a position that doesnt usually have a backup. I compounded the problem by missing the draft instantly wrapping back around to me before I went to bed Friday night, so now I have to hope we can get at least one day of waivers so I can get a replacement.
 
190Promize
      ID: 35392417
      Mon, Sep 07, 2015, 07:38
Well no excuse for me, sorry.
I had a long queue and I guess it cleaned out. Was at lake all day.

Was lookin at available players this morning and I guess my clock expired?
 
191Slizz
      ID: 325491823
      Wed, Sep 09, 2015, 13:19
Are you guys ready for some football?!? I know I sure am!

That said, the cop in me feels I need to address something to serve as a reminder before the season begins:

Our by-laws matter, no matter how trivial they might be.

I mention this because of an incident that occurred last season: As a refresher, Ref sent an email to the league about a player that was picked up while he was on IR and inserted into said team's starting lineup. While the manager intentions were what he felt was in the best interest of his team (I.E. wanting to accumulate as much talent as possible, so he could compete sooner then later), it was still wrong to do as it went against our by-laws.

I was the manager who pointed that violation out to Ref. I was sour because I dropped Joseph Randle to comply with our by-laws and did not get him back. I knew Randle had good keeper potential, but my team was decimated by injuries and byes, so with Randle on the bye (& Demarco healthy), I felt he was the easiest to cut and have a good chance of getting him back. MJD shrewdly claimed him and I was left SOL with respect to Randle. I looked at other rosters, saw that violation, and promptly pointed it out to Ref to get his thoughts. How is it fair that I, along with other managers, are doing things to comply with our by-laws and others are not?

I could've easily done the same thing and, as a result, kept Randle. I only tell this because we owe it to the other members of this league to field the best possible rosters each week, even if it could potentially hurt us in the long run.

This league should be should be fun for all members above all else. I get it's challenging to rebuild a team and it doesn't happen overnight, but please follow the by-laws.

As a suggestion, I feel laying out consequences for violating the rules would serve as a deterrent for something like that happening. Thoughts?

In this example, we are fortunate the player was not kept and, despite costing the team 1-2 wins and altered the NFC playoff seeding, the team did not benefit from the lottery.

If something like that was to happen again, my personal feeling would be to forfeit the keeper status of said player and the team is not eligible for the draft lottery. I know Ref had eluded to stripping of draft pick(s), but this league is supposed to be fun above all else. The team committing such a violation shouldn't benefit from getting a primo pick too. To show flex, the team would still keep their first, but pick 16th.

/ end rant.

Good luck to all this season.
 
192Toral
      ID: 1753514
      Wed, Sep 09, 2015, 15:12
Is the waiver order right? Why are the Bengals first?
 
193Frick
      ID: 147221011
      Wed, Sep 09, 2015, 15:35
I'll second Slizz. In a league this deep it is very easy to have a key injury or two and suddenly know that you are eliminated from being competitive. Throwing it in the tank and grabbing an IR player who might help you next year is a logical step.

One of the issues that needs to be addressed is what should be done if a manager starts a player who is on the IR. I think a distinction should be made between a player who was picked up and started vs. a keeper or a player who was drafted and subsequently injured.
 
194Toral
      ID: 1753514
      Wed, Sep 09, 2015, 15:53
I would concur with Slizz, and also with Frizz about the difference between picking up and starting an injured player, versus keeping a player you already have in the lineup. And there will have to be distinctions: e.g. what if a player is declared "Out" Sunday morning? Saturday? Friday?

It would help to have the actual league rule in front of us. Here is a link to the rules from the old website:http://www.angelfire.com/games5/gurupie/footcon.html.

I cannot actually see a rule there applicable to this situation. Perhaps somebody else can find it.
 
195Toral
      ID: 1753514
      Wed, Sep 09, 2015, 16:12
Looked at last year's e-exchange on this topic and found the existing rule:

"You must have a healthy player in your lineup each week. No IRs or Known OUTS/inactives/Suspensions"
 
196slizz
      ID: 3556212
      Wed, Sep 09, 2015, 16:47
Frick - I agree. There is nothing wrong with that strategy provided that you can comply with the rules.

Sometimes one needs to make tough decisions to comply with setting a proper lineup. If the person is obviously injured and not playing, they shouldn't be in the lineup. Period. If they're a game time decision and you keep them in and they don't play, so be it. Even in the smartphone era, its not reasonable to expect someone to be monitoring their lineups till the last minute every single week.

I know we've discussed adding an injured reserve slot. Originally, I was against it as the pool of players is already thin enough. However, I am warming up to it with some modifications. I'm not sure if it was mentioned or not, but maybe having injured 1-2 IR slots for a player who was kept and injured during the season. If the player is lost during the season, the free agent pool is already thin enough, but they would still be able to find a marginal replacement to encourage competitiveness without crippling roster space.

In the above quasi-proposal, someone like Jordy Nelson would not be privy to that. While its unfortunate Nelson was lost for the year, it is still pre-keepers, so one could find an alternative keeper. If you allow the IR exemption to players in the preseason, it almost encourages the person to keep a player like Nelson. As a result, they would have a distinct advantage heading into the following year with basically 10 keepers.
 
197slizz
      ID: 3556212
      Wed, Sep 09, 2015, 16:50
While we are on the subject of rosters, I have noticed a trend where teams have started skill position players on their bye weeks. Other than QB or DST, that shouldn't be encouraged.
 
198mjd
      ID: 23182817
      Wed, Sep 09, 2015, 19:17
Making tough decisions is one of the things this league has always been about.

Not intended to be easy.
 
199GO
      ID: 39727167
      Wed, Sep 09, 2015, 20:49
Toral - based on that link did I trade you Brees way back when? Damn it.
 
200Toral
      ID: 1753514
      Thu, Sep 10, 2015, 06:41
Yep. For Cutler. And Pierre Thomas, I think. Funny thing is I thot it was a bad trade in the long run for me -- just trying to make the playoffs that year.
 
201 Slizz
      ID: 325491823
      Thu, Sep 10, 2015, 13:28
Have some excess WR depth on my roster. that said, I had the benefit of picking when James Jones was named as the WR2/3 for Green Bay. Looking to trade him dirt cheap for a 2016 late round pick.

Shoot me an offer...
 
202judy
      Dude
      ID: 7771722
      Thu, Sep 10, 2015, 15:43
Hi guys,

just getting back to the thread.

This is our rule:

Should owners be allowed to submit players on bye as starters? Yes

MY TAKE: With the limited player pool and our small rosters, I think the loss of points from the bye players is enough of a "punishment". If you had to fill all the byes, this league would be a madhouse of drops/adds/waivers and only those with early access to a computer would be the benefactors!

We also have this:

In case of an IR violation, prevent owner from submitting lineup? No

This is from Toral in #195 above:

Looked at last year's e-exchange on this topic and found the existing rule:

"You must have a healthy player in your lineup each week. No IRs or Known OUTS/inactives/Suspensions"

MY TAKE: Regarding the game time decisions -- even in this time of smart phones -- if a guy is a game time decision and does not play, I do not believe you should punished. Some folks set the lineups and then do not have access (to Glaser for example on Fox) to know if the guy is IN or OUT. I know I sometimes miss an IN/OUT because I miss the FOX pregame show...

I think Toral's line above should be:

"no players in a game day lineup who is on IR, OUT, inactive or suspended as listed on the MFL site 24 hours before gametime."

(Question: what is the definition of "inactive"? Same as "OUT"?)

But then the issue becomes what do we plan to do about it???

We also have this:

Are Partial Lineups Allowed? No, partial lineups are never allowed.

So there currently has to be some kind of player (an alive one is good) in each position in your lineup. Not quite sure the punishment but my guess is that you cannot submit a lineup at all so your whole team gets a ZERO!
 
203judy
      Dude
      ID: 7771722
      Thu, Sep 10, 2015, 15:54
Illegal partial lineup -- I took Nick out, I got this in red at the top.

You Must Select 1 QB (0 selected)
You Must Select 13 Starters (12 selected)
Lineup Not Accepted!


If we did the IR rule as a "yes", your lineup would not be accepted.

In case of an IR violation, prevent owner from submitting lineup? No

We could vote to change this to yes and this would solve a key issue...
 
204Slizz
      ID: 325491823
      Thu, Sep 10, 2015, 16:14
As stated above, I would be in favor of an IR spot provided it is reserved for a keeper who was healthy after the keeper deadline and gets injured.

Turning on a universal IR slot all but encourages hoarding and I would be against it.

Obviously, we would have to police this ourselves.
 
205Toral
      ID: 1753514
      Thu, Sep 10, 2015, 16:39
1, 203 Judy: I believe MFL allows the Commish to set the rules to allow a partial lineup if she wishes.

The danger cited by people against allowing partial lineups in the past is that it allows a team that isn't really trying to win to hoard players at skill positions who might be future keepers (because they have an additional roster spot because they left a position blank).

I would be for allowing partial lineups but forbidding their misuse for the reason above. I think that team that got a zero by mistake would be pretty ticked off.

2. I'm for an IR position as Slizz recommends, but it does not resolve the basic problem at all. (I.E., suspended/IR/BYE players in lineups).
 
206Tree
      ID: 161036918
      Thu, Sep 10, 2015, 17:47
i suppose the entire concept of being forced to fill one's lineup bothers me.

as other's have said, this league is filled with difficult decisions - among those, should be the option to take the goose egg and keep a good player for the future, or drop that player and fill the hole.

as for the IR position, i'm in a league that forces you to keep a player you put in that slot.

it involves a certain amount of strategy, because if you use that spot for a back up RB you think might be a starter the following season; and then Dez Bryant goes on IR, well, then you're SOL.
 
207Toral
      ID: 1753514
      Thu, Sep 10, 2015, 18:06
Well, to put it bluntly, the problem is with teams that are no longer trying to win games, because they are rebuilding from Week One, or becuz they have decided they won't make the playoffs.

Tree, not to pick on him, said the problem is the question whether "to take the goose egg and keep a good player for the future, or drop that player and fill the hole".

Well, if you've given up, that's not a problem. You keep the good player for the future. The problem comes when as a result you lose a game to Team X and as a result Team X gets into the playoffs instead of Team Y. Then Holy Hell breaks loose, and rightly so.

I have stated my views to Judy in response to an e-mail from her. No team ought to be allowed to play a BYE player except at QB or D/ST when there are often are no starters available. The question should only be as to the range of penalties.
 
208 deepsnapper
      ID: 568311017
      Thu, Sep 10, 2015, 18:34
As I have previously stated, ar IR slot is not possible at this time with the current rules and thin F/A availability.

A solution is to bring this up in the offseason as a rule change and vote, 2/3 owners required to pass it and it's done. Same thing applies to keeping D/ST, allowing incomplete roster, etc.

We have the capsbilities to modify the leage, but it ccannot be applied while the league is in season.

I can appreciate everyone's feelings as I carried AD and Ray "knockout" Rice all seaon after week one and am not aware of placing either in the starting lineup all season. Did it require some creative addds/drops during the year(?) I'd liketo think so, but I had a lousey record anyway. I played on though, albeit not as well as if I'd had my star RB.

Where is all this rule change discussion in the offseason when something couod be done?

Let's play ball and play with who you've got, not who you'd like to have.

For every time there is a season. It's just not now. Sorry for any s/p words, my cataract surgery last Friday hasn't worked yet. lol
 
209Toral
      ID: 1753514
      Thu, Sep 10, 2015, 18:38
deepsnapper, I am sympathetic.

But the basic issue doen't involve rule change.

We already have a rule:

"You must have a healthy player in your lineup each week. No IRs or Known OUTS/inactives/Suspensions"

That has been a rule for as long as this league has existed.

The essential question is about enforcement, and penalties.
 
210TD
      ID: 55540220
      Thu, Sep 10, 2015, 18:58
A suggestion for enforcement. If anyone in the league notices a violation, they should bring it up on the this thread. The first time an owner violates this rule during a given season should be a warning. Further violations should result in forfeiting one of next seasons draft picks. Not sure which pick. He would have to pick up a player after the draft to fill out his roster.
 
211PeteN.
      ID: 8550318
      Thu, Sep 10, 2015, 19:13
I agree there needs to be enforcement of the rule. I've had to make tough decisions maintaining a legal lineup. If that means you have to cut a player who could be a potential keep, tough sh!t.
 
212deepsnapper
      ID: 568311017
      Thu, Sep 10, 2015, 19:22
Toral - agreed, but a bye week player can be inserted in your line up, or you have to make a tough decision on waiving a "marginal player" to acquire a legal one.

I agree a roster slot is valuable, but everyone's played a bye week player at one time or another and I'm not aware on any "all-star" rosters in the league that can't afford 1 roster replacement. We do play speculative players.

No one knew Joe Randle was Murray's replacement. He had gun charges he was accused of in Wichita KS last year from an incident with his "baby mama" and was conavicted of shoplifting in Frisco earoier this year from an incident in 2014 also. I don't know who the #1 RB in Dallas is and I've been around following the Cowboys since 1960...HEY

If a settting in MFL will prevent NE1from inserting an I/R or SUS player in the lineeup, I'm for that, but someone cannot be penalized for an Acctive player going on the IR/POP/SUS list while game week is on.

Hard to manage by the Commish and not everyone pays as much attention to their rosters as they could. Should they be penalized? Only if it is intentional and can be proven by/time or roster insertion on a known IR player. A penalty should result in that case, but what? Can't decide that now.

Good discussion BTW.

ds


 
213Toral
      ID: 1753514
      Thu, Sep 10, 2015, 19:53
deepsnapper said ;

"I agree a roster slot is valuable, but everyone's played a bye week player at one time or another..."

I disagree. I have never knowingly played a bye week player except at QB or D/ST.

And frankly, I don't remember you ever doing so either. I'm in your division and follow your roster.

Roy .. name one time you played a BYE player except at QB or D/ST in your whole career here, except maybe when you were sick.

Toral

 
214GO
      ID: 39727167
      Thu, Sep 10, 2015, 22:21
Above, I talked IR 10 days before the draft started and got shot down. That was plenty of time for a quick vote. No reason we can't vote it now to implement for 2016 while its fresh in our minds. Otherwise it'll just get forgotten again.
 
215GO
      ID: 39727167
      Thu, Sep 10, 2015, 22:27
Basic outline of what TD suggests seems reasonable. A warning, then maybe a draft pick loss after 2nd violation etc.

Also not sure if I'd prefer public shaming here or maybe anonymous to the commish - (side note, is that officially Judy at this point or she just holding the fort down til somebody steps up?) Perhaps anonymous to the commish and then commish posts here would be ideal. So people don't feel like someone is picking on them, but the public is still made aware.

And it should be IR in starting lineup for sure a violation, or anyone definitely out with long term injury beyond just a game day decision.
 
216Frick
      ID: 161121911
      Thu, Sep 10, 2015, 22:33
If we have a rule that says "You must have a healthy player in your lineup each week. No IRs or Known OUTS/inactives/Suspensions"

A simple penalty (even if after the fact) is the manager must drop a player and add someone from the WW, even if it is after the fact.

I think the main intent is to keep teams from intentionally tanking and hording injured players for the following year.

I know that I've kept Cutler on my roster for several years when he was injured and had to dedicate a bench spot to him for the rest of the year. I even started Julian Edelman at QB when he had a QB/WR designation.

It also helps keep teams from getting lucky in their division and being gifted wins from teams that are tanking.

 
217Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Thu, Sep 10, 2015, 23:32
MFL has an option where if you try to start an IR player you cannot submit your lineup.
That is an easy thing to "monitor" since the site does it.

214 GO. -- traditionally this league doesn't get its act together until they are required to name keepers, so that is probably why most probably did not even notice your note.

208. Once the season is over, it is hard to get anything discussed. Folks are footballed out.

However, I do think we can, NOW, present and vote on a change(s?) for 2016 -- so fire away.
 
218Slizz
      ID: 325491823
      Fri, Sep 11, 2015, 12:15
DS - nobody knew about Randle given the cloudy situation RB situation in Dallas. All I knew was he weighed 225 and was the pending FA Demarco's backup. I made a bad call. I was just frustrated that I didn't say "screw it" and started him on a his bye...or dropped Patrick Willis in hindsight hahaha

Agree with GO and Judy - We should put it to a vote for 2016. Like I stated above, I would be against a blanket IR spot because it will be abused.

My proposal would be as follows: any keeper injured and placed on IR, after the keeper deadline, is eligible to be placed in the spot. Additionally, any player drafted and placed on IR, after the draft concludes, would be eligible. No FA pickups are eligible.

It stinks for the owner that drafted David Cobb in the first only to see him injure himself in the 3rd preseason game. As a result, he is eligible for the spot in the above proposal.

Policing doesn't need to be put to a vote, it just needs to be enforced. I disagree with the warning on the first violation. What if someone just blatantly starts all injured players? Is that deemed warning worthy?

My point is that no situation is the same. I know that would never happen because that person wouldn't be a gurupie...that said, it would have to be handled as a case by case basis.
 
219Slizz
      ID: 325491823
      Fri, Sep 11, 2015, 12:20
On another topic, I regret my Dri Archer spot start last night 😡.

Got bad info from Twitter that he was the top backup. Given two of my backs (Michael and West) are likely to be healthy scratches this week and Langford not likely to get touches, I thought it was a good calculated risk! .88 points later makes me wish I kept Jones.
 
220GO
      ID: 39727167
      Fri, Sep 11, 2015, 21:35
I thought it was a good spot start.
 
221judy
      Dude
      ID: 7771722
      Fri, Sep 11, 2015, 23:22
215 Unless I am ousted, I am willing to be the official commish...I kinda know my way around MFL and I do enjoy figuring things out, with your help.

I welcome a co-commish, although most of the work for 2015 is already done. I will need help at end of season for playoffs and 2016 draft order, etc. (especially since I will be out of country one of the playoff weeks...)
 
222GO
      ID: 39727167
      Fri, Sep 11, 2015, 23:31
Definitely need 2 if not 3 commishes to run this thing so hopefully someone will step up and if there are a few we can do a private vote. 3 probably ideal to have an odd number of voices to decide on how to steer issues as they arise as well as dividing up the work. Not something I have the time to even consider unfortunately. Although randomly... for now at least... I have access to MFL at work. No ESPN or Yahoo... but somehow MFL is not blocked. Probably just jinxed it.
 
223Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Sat, Sep 12, 2015, 08:13
The site only allows a co commish on it, but certainly three could divide the workload and work around it,
 
224Slizz
      ID: 325491823
      Sun, Sep 13, 2015, 14:37
Doug - friendly reminder your kicker is on the bench.
 
225Slizz
      ID: 325491823
      Sun, Sep 13, 2015, 15:02
James Jones 😂😂😂

I hate Green Bay.
 
226Tree
      ID: 161036918
      Sun, Sep 13, 2015, 22:51
awesome to see my QB go down with an injury.

this could get interesting.
 
227youngroman
      ID: 57047243
      Mon, Sep 14, 2015, 04:21
is it just me or were there more than the usual number of potential multi-week injuries suffered yesterday?

Corey Graham
Dez Bryant
Terrell Suggs
Derek Carr
Josh McCown
DeSean Jackson
TY Hilton
Luke Kuechly
Andre Ellington
CJ Anderson
Delanie Walker

did I miss anyone relevant?
it is not yet known if all of them will miss next week but this would make a fine fantasy team. I guess this will be a busy waiver wire this week. Havn't looked if all the backups to these injured players are already owned or if there are some up for grabs.

the good thing is that no newly injured players are on my team. the bad thing is I started the season with 3 of my keepers sidelined. the best is: it looks like I will win both games and will put up the most points of all teams.

Dear JJ Watt: keep up the good work
Dear Arian Foster: don't come back too early, I need you fully healthy
 
228Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Wed, Sep 16, 2015, 17:49
Good bye deSean. I kept you one year too long...

What shocks me is the number of ACL's. I think it is up to 30. That is more often a female issue...
 
229GO
      ID: 39727167
      Thu, Sep 17, 2015, 23:24
Rule Experts
Something I've always wondered. When a dumb playcall like Andy Reid's reverse to Maclin gets blown up... why can't Maclin just throw the ball away? Is that not legal?
 
230Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Fri, Sep 18, 2015, 15:40
Should be able to. If you can throw a pass from that formation and you can, you can certainly throw it away...
I went to bed and missed the ending. Sounds like miracle at the meadowlands, almost...
 
231Toral
      ID: 1753514
      Fri, Sep 18, 2015, 20:16
Danger of penalty for ineligible receiver downfield pPotential blockers)?
 
232GO
      ID: 432341310
      Sat, Sep 19, 2015, 08:01
Toral that makes sense. Next reverse play I will have to where the blockers go. Just never got why they often just step out of bounds or take a ten yards loss when they could easily throw it in the stands.
 
233GO
      ID: 432341310
      Wed, Sep 23, 2015, 13:18
Anyone need a decent RB I am looking to move Sankey for a WR. And or Breshard Perriman in a package for rebuilders.
 
234Promize
      ID: 35392417
      Wed, Sep 30, 2015, 14:26
Think this was discussed at some point, but what is the rule about having a bye person in a starting position on the lineup?

Can or Can Not?
 
235Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Wed, Sep 30, 2015, 22:57
Can.
 
236Frick
      ID: 147221011
      Thu, Oct 08, 2015, 08:08
Is there a time period when you can't enter transactions? I had to drop Michael Floyd last week to field a valid roster. I tried to pick him up yesterday afternoon, but MFL said that no transactions were allowed. I tried to submit a WW claim, but also wasn't allowed at that time.

 
237Toral
      ID: 1753514
      Thu, Oct 08, 2015, 09:14
Check the calendar (link on LH side of page). No pickups allowed between noon and 3 PM on Wednesdays if that was the time you tried to make a pickup.
 
238 Nerfherders
      ID: 161121811
      Thu, Oct 08, 2015, 13:45
I survived the scoring changes with a .18 win. That's tight!

I have an extra WR I would be interested in trading for a viable LB. It seems that my team is where LB's go to die.
 
239Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Sun, Oct 11, 2015, 20:57
Hey how come Julio didn't get credit for the fumble recovery TD??? I need those points!!! Yahoo has them!

 
240Tree
      ID: 161036918
      Mon, Oct 12, 2015, 10:24
depends on the league scoring - does this league allow for that? (that being said, i wonder if it's an MFL setting, because i have Julio in another league and i didn't get credit).
 
241Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Tue, Oct 13, 2015, 00:33
Do we want this scoring rule?

Question
1. Why didn't I get points for an offensive player like a QB, RB or WR recovering a fumble from one of his teammates (or, his own fumble) in the end zone for a touchdown?
Answer: On Sunday of Week 5, the Falcons scored a TD when Devonta Freeman fumbled the ball on a rushing play, and the ball rolled into the end zone, and then Julio Jones fell on it for a touchdown. (side note - Freeman also scored a 6 yard Rushing TD on a totally different play in the same game).

This TD by Jones is considered to be an "Offensive Fumble Recovery TD" for the player. So you'll have to add that rule to your scoring on the Reports > Rules > League Scoring screen as needed if you want this to count for your league.

You can use either of these rules:
"Number of Offensive Fumble Recovery TDs"
or
"Length of Offensive Fumble Recovery TD". Since 0 yard offensive fumble recoveries can happen when a player falls on the ball in the end zone, be sure to make the scoring for this start at zero yards, and go all of the way up to 100 yards.

After you make the change to your rules, the system will put a confirmation message on your league home page, and that will allow you to choose whether or not to apply the new rule changes to all weeks or just future weeks. Note that the same type of play happened last week when Ed Dickson of the Panthers recovered a 57 yard Offensive Fumble and Scored a TD. You can view all of these types of unusual plays on the "Help > Strange Plays" menu item in your league

 
242youngroman
      ID: 57047243
      Tue, Oct 13, 2015, 03:46
I am for this rule. every player should get the 6pts for the TD he scored, no matter how crazy the play was.
 
243Tree
      ID: 161036918
      Tue, Oct 13, 2015, 10:38
i am absolutely for this rule. to not get points for Touchdowns is absurd.
 
244Toral
      ID: 1753514
      Tue, Oct 13, 2015, 12:34
I am for this rule.

I am not against adding it in mid-season.

I am not against adding it in mid-season retroactively (see option in the last paragraph above).

FWIW RIFC has added it, including for last week's scores, which I presume means it has been added retroactively.
 
245 CT
      ID: 379291312
      Tue, Oct 13, 2015, 13:30
I agree - should add rule for 6 pts.

However, I am in the corner of add the rule for 2016, not mid season or retro.
 
246Doug
      ID: 19613816
      Tue, Oct 13, 2015, 14:36
I am for the rule.

If this is a "new rule" then it should be for 2016.

If this is an "old rule" (i.e., on the CBS site we got credit for these types of plays, but when we transitioned to MFL this particular setting just never got configured because it's a bit unusual), then I'd be ok for doing it retroactively.
 
247GO
      ID: 39727167
      Tue, Oct 13, 2015, 23:04
Agree with Doug above.
 
248Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Wed, Oct 14, 2015, 01:11
Its not a new rule, but one we did not carry over due to oversight. RIFC has added it, so I will do it also, retroactively.
 
249Tree
      ID: 161036918
      Wed, Oct 14, 2015, 21:29
i'm in three MFL leagues, all having the same issue.
 
250mjd
      ID: 23182817
      Thu, Oct 15, 2015, 12:36
I thought ALL TDs counted as 6 points. I believe some scores had to be added manually on CBS.
 
251Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Thu, Oct 15, 2015, 23:02
Fixed! All 5 weeks recalculated. No idea who benefitted...
 
252Slizz
      ID: 325491823
      Fri, Oct 16, 2015, 00:23
Looking to trade Ted Ginn, Jr.

He's off his bye and there aren't a whole lot of options in Carolina. Plus KR/PR last I checked.
 
253Slizz
      ID: 325491823
      Sat, Oct 17, 2015, 09:41
TRADE ANNOUNCEMENT

Buffalo Bills Give: Marcus Mariota, QB, TEN

Cleveland Browns Give: DeAndre Hopkins, WR, HOU

No picks. CT please confirm.
 
254PeteN.
      ID: 8550318
      Mon, Oct 19, 2015, 19:04
Trade Announcement

Dallas trades:

2016 4th round pick

Cleveland trades:

Jimmy Garoppolo
2016 8th round pick.
 
255PeteN.
      ID: 8550318
      Mon, Oct 19, 2015, 19:05
Commish, please drop Jenkins, Jarvis CHI DE to complete trade in post 254
 
256Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Mon, Oct 19, 2015, 22:11
Pete

Huh?
 
257PeteN.
      ID: 8550318
      Mon, Oct 19, 2015, 22:58
Nvm, I'll drop Jenkins as soon as the website will allow me to.
 
258Frick
      ID: 147221011
      Tue, Oct 20, 2015, 08:05
Judy,

Since the trade is uneven, PeteN needed to drop a player. PeteN did it manually already.
 
259 CT
      ID: 379291312
      Tue, Oct 20, 2015, 12:25
Cleveland confirms post 253. No picks were exchanged.
 
260 CT
      ID: 379291312
      Tue, Oct 20, 2015, 12:30
TRADE ANNOUNCEMENT (10/17)

Cleveland Browns / Denver Broncos Trade
Cleveland Browns gave up Manuel, E.J. BUF QB
Denver Broncos gave up

Comments: Cleveland receives 7th round 2016 from Denver, Denver receives Cleveland 9th round and EJ Manuel.
 
261 CT
      ID: 379291312
      Tue, Oct 20, 2015, 12:30
TRADE ANNOUNCEMENT (10/17)

Cleveland Browns / Denver Broncos Trade
Cleveland Browns gave up Manuel, E.J. BUF QB
Denver Broncos gave up

Comments: Cleveland receives 7th round 2016 from Denver, Denver receives Cleveland 9th round and EJ Manuel.
 
262Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Thu, Oct 22, 2015, 21:34
Frick -- I got it. Pete sent me an email with his plans...
 
263youngroman
      ID: 57047243
      Thu, Oct 29, 2015, 05:29
I don't know if this is in the rules or if it is only how it is currently set up at MFL, but I don't like that dropped players are locked for exactly 24 hours and are then free for all.

I think this is now the third time this season where I like a player that was locked. unfortunately the player unlocks at a time when I am not online (=sleeping). since I guess he is also wanted by someone else I will miss out on him simply because I am not online when he unlocks. wouldn't it be better to place dropped players on waivers and have daily waivers until sunday? In this scenario I would have a chance depending on my waiver order.


looking at my team I need fresh and healthy players. only 2 of my 8 keepers will have played all of their games after this week. all others missed at least 1 if not multiple games. 3 are already out for the season.

R Wilson 7/7
J Bell 4/7 - his stats feel more like 0/7
A Foster 4/7 - will finish 4/16
K Benjamin 0/7 - will finish 0/16
V Jackson 6/6 - will miss the next game and probably more
C Johnson 4/7 - his stats feel more like 0/7
JJ Watt 7/7
D Levy 1/7 - will probably finish 1/16
BAL D 7/7

It is a miracle that I am still in the lead of the AFC east and #3 in the AFC. it must suck to be a NFC team looking at the AFC standings.
there is a small hope that I assemble a competitive team by week 14 and somehow advance a week in the playoffs.
 
264 CT
      ID: 379291312
      Thu, Oct 29, 2015, 17:58
TRADE ANNOUNCEMENT: (10/29)
Chicago Bears gave up:
Mettenberger, Zach TEN QB
LaFell, Brandon NEP WR

Cleveland Browns gave up:
Cousins, Kirk WAS QB
Packers, Green Bay GBP Def
 
265Toral
      ID: 1753514
      Fri, Oct 30, 2015, 11:42
Youngroman:

Last year conversion to a daily-waiver system just as you recommend was discussed. It came up when a player then considered highly valuable was dropped, and it was noted that daily waivers on dropped players would just be replicating our practice at CBS.

Indeed, at the request of one of the commissioners I was temporarily given powers and changed the calendar as I thot would create a daily-waiver system. My idea failed. I experimented with the set-up. It put everybody on waivers, so there were no free-agent pickups. I put everything back as it was.

Again at the request of one of the commissioners I submitted a ticket to MFL asking how to create a system with all our current features except daily-waivers on dropped players. This was their advice:

"To set up your waiver events you will need to do the following:
1. Go to the Setup > Waivers Setup > Waivers/Free Agents Setup and choose
Once a player is dropped, he is "locked" until: X days
2. Enable the option "Allow owners to submit requests for recently dropped (or "locked") players separately from other players (free agents), as subject to league calendar rules?" to separate waivers/FA.
3. Turn on the last option "Prevent Owners From Making FCFS Waivers/Free Agent Moves Between Kickoff of that player's game and the end of the last game of the week?"
4. Now, go to the Setup > Waivers Setup > Waiver Rules Calendar Setup and define the following 3 events:
Waiver Request Sun Aug 31 1:00:00 p.m. ET 2014, ends never (Happens 17 more weeks.)
No FA Moves Allowed Sun Aug 31 1:00:00 p.m. ET 2014, Wed Sep 3 3:00:00 p.m. ET 2014 (Happens 17 more weeks.)
Waiver Request (Locked Players Only) Wed Sep 3 12:00:00 p.m. ET 2014, ends never (Happens 17 more weeks.)

Waivers will then run from Sunday's kickoff until Wednesday for all players. At that time waivers will process and dropped players will be locked and available on waiver request. These players will process nightly at 3am following their unlocked time. All other players are available on a first come, first served basis until the following Sunday. "

Note that the dates apply to last year.

A problem is that I am not 100% sure that following these instructions would not accidentally change some other feature of the way we do things, and the only way to test is to do it in-season, with the danger of calamity if the new calendar screws things up.

There is where the matter came to a rest last year.

Come to think of it, these changes might also address the complaint some have made about not being able to submit waiver claims until after 10:30 Monday night.
 
266Nerfherders
      ID: 161121811
      Fri, Oct 30, 2015, 12:34
Can't you just turn the lock off and have them FCFS upon being dropped?
 
267Toral
      ID: 1753514
      Fri, Oct 30, 2015, 18:00
266 Yes, that is what RIFC does. However that is a separate idea and does not address the concerns underlying the desire for daily waivers.
 
268GO
      ID: 432341310
      Fri, Oct 30, 2015, 18:27
Have had some discussions about moving Leveon Bell so figure I open up to all in case someone can put a better package together. I am looking for a keeper WR and then other starter depth including a startable RB.
 
269GO
      ID: 39727167
      Sun, Nov 01, 2015, 14:31
Both my RB's carted off within minutes of each other. Nice! Everyone not named Luck for sale.
 
270Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Sun, Nov 01, 2015, 23:29
GO at least you have RB's. Or did...
 
271Nerfherders
      ID: 161121811
      Mon, Nov 02, 2015, 12:41
I'm looking for a QB for a BYE fill this week. Nothing extraordinary, but someone who is projected to start.
 
272Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Mon, Nov 02, 2015, 17:55
Good luck with that request nerf!
 
273Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Mon, Nov 02, 2015, 17:58
Good luck with that request nerf!
 
274Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Wed, Nov 04, 2015, 18:57
From email memo:

Currently we have roster limits of min = 1 and max = 9 for each position.

Rifc has no roster limits.

Thoughts for 2016? We could vote this year for next year: to keep as is or use rifc no limits.

Speak up!!
 
275 beastiemiked
      ID: 481162721
      Wed, Nov 04, 2015, 19:21
Anyone have an extra team D? Send me an offer.
 
276Toral
      ID: 1753514
      Wed, Nov 04, 2015, 19:21
As a continuing league, we have the problem of encouraging (at a minimum) teams to field a complete roster even in a bad season. RIFC does not have that problem.

So I see no reason to change this setting.
 
277PeteN.
      ID: 8550318
      Wed, Nov 04, 2015, 19:23
I agree with Toral.
 
278mjd
      ID: 23182817
      Wed, Nov 04, 2015, 20:41
I've seen it and had transactions rejected because of it. Fielding a complete lineup has always been a rule in this league.
 
279GO
      ID: 39727167
      Wed, Nov 04, 2015, 21:33
Something I've often wondered is - and just playing devils advocate here - why do I need to "field a complete team" on Wednesday morning. I just thought I needed one by gametime. I think I previously had trades that wouldn't process because of having to keep the numbers balanced.
 
280youngroman
      ID: 57047243
      Thu, Nov 05, 2015, 04:00
sorry for showing up late. my laptop died yesterday. not a good day for me and today hasn't started much better.

there are a lot more valuable DB's than RB/WR out there. my DB won't play this week and is likely out until week 12, so I am getting rid of him anyway. with a very low waiver position I thought that I add a claim for a speculative RB add and see how his situation unfolds until Sunday and then make the change and pick up a DB. I have other problems this week too because of all the injuries (6) and byes (6), so I can't take this gamble with any of my healthy players. of course I will have each roster slot filled by Monday Night Football.

I don't see a reason why my roster needs to be legal at every time. I thought that it would be sufficient to be legal at MNF.
 
281youngroman
      ID: 57047243
      Mon, Nov 09, 2015, 04:33
damn. Draughn was the guy all this "you have the have complete team at all time" debate was about. turned out he was the lead back and will be a popular add this week. with my knowledge from yesterday I would have still dropped him for a DB because his outlook was not that good.

my team is still a mess and playoff chances are getting smaller. I am not giving up yet. I guess this will come down to a showdown in week 13.
 
282Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Tue, Nov 10, 2015, 07:31
I am concerned that teams are keeping bye folks on their game day lineups. One team I played will get a note from me as commish, as he could have used bench players for those on bye.

I realize it was a tough bye week, but I am thinking we need to do something about -- maybe -- a limit to the number of byes you can have in your "active" lineup.

Some folks are still trying to make playoffs and these poor lineups are screwing things up for the entire league by giving wins to folks who should/might not have them.

If you played a team that you feel had too many bye players or who could have used bench players, please email me asap. I have already heard from two teams. Thanks.

Thoughts?
 
283Doug
      ID: 11740813
      Tue, Nov 10, 2015, 08:15
If they had bench players, that's one thing and should be discouraged. Absolutely. Occasionally someone might not have a chance to logon before Thursday games ( if that's the player they need to swap in) but usually at some point in the week they can set their lineup for the upcoming week for any eligible Sunday/Monday players . Violations of the should be exceedingly rare.

If they didn't have bench players, that's a totally different thing. They may have needed to drop a quality player to cover the bye, which should also be discouraged as it hurts long term competitiveness. I'm in seven leagues, six of them keeper/dynasty... I don't believe a single one of them has a rule that forces managers to cover bye weeks by dropping players.

Distribution of byes sometimes means you'll have a week where you can't fill every hole. Yes, teams should do their best to be competitive, but different ways to achieve that... Let's not micromanage people's teams. If you happen to have 4 or 5 players on bye in a given week, that can be impossibke to cover (depending on what positions they play) without hurting your teams long-term competitiveness. Let's not be shortsighted about what a competitive team means.
 
284Tree
      ID: 161036918
      Tue, Nov 10, 2015, 08:21
personally, i think that forcing someone to drop stronger players on bye for weaker players that aren't on bye is not seeing the forest for the trees.

it might boost scores for that one week, but it will likely reduce scores for the entire season.

we play in a very deep league, and empty roster slots because of byes are going to happen. heck, because of player scarcity in positions like QB and Team D, bye holes are more likely than not to occur.

here's a suggestion - drop team Defense, and add an extra bench spot. that will reduce the number of players on bye being used significantly, because A) you won't have the inevitable team defense bye, and B) you have a deeper bench,
 
285 CT
      ID: 379291312
      Tue, Nov 10, 2015, 12:07
While I value and understand the opinion of not micro managing the league - I think it is important to manage week to week knowing you will have to make adjustments to your roster to cover bye week issues. The only position which should ever be an issue is QB-and even then, having a non bye week player (even if it is a Jimmy Clausen type) in the lineup should happen. The idea of managing a 24 league team is to be active, make tough choices and keep an active roster. Manage accordingly, look ahead, and plan accordingly. I may be in the minority on this, but just my two cents: Active rosters = no bye week players. At the end of the day, as long as we have a uniform guideline related to bye week players - I am fine with it. Unlike other league's I participate in, it is fun to churn and try to piece together a roster weekly -so I enjoy this part of the experience.
 
286Toral
      ID: 1753514
      Tue, Nov 10, 2015, 12:27
My view is that we need a rule that is specific, easy to understand, and enforced, with penalties (if there have to be any) known in advance.





 
287Slizz
      ID: 325491823
      Tue, Nov 10, 2015, 12:37
Make that 3 teams, Judy ;)

I went 1-1 and should've went 0-2. Despite my slow start, my team was actually positioned to make a playoff run with Bryant back, west, Langford, and Hopkins. I needed to run the table in a wide open AFC, but GO effectively ended it with a stellar performance.

Seahawks (promize?) - have you even checked your lineup?

You have ogletree in your lineup and he's been on IR for the Rams past 4 games plus their bye. Inexcusable. If you're not gonna invest in your team, it's not fair to the rest of the owners and you should consider if you still want to participate in G24. it was clearly stated at the beginning of the year that this is not acceptable. If i was commish, you would be picking 15th regardless of your finish.

I second CT's post in 285.

I also agree with tree about the elimination of DST.

That said, it's strategy to churn the bottom of your roster to compete...I've done it despite my position and had to cut some players like James Jones.
 
288Toral
      ID: 1753514
      Tue, Nov 10, 2015, 13:21
16th, not 15th. Ahead of of only playoff teams = picking 16th. (Count it out if you don't believe me.)
 
289TD
      ID: 8737711
      Tue, Nov 10, 2015, 14:22
Maybe we should consider one IR slot for each team. Don't remember if we already discussed this. This will help teams set rosters that have no bye week or injured players. But with a league this large, it will remove some players from the scarce available player pool.
 
290Slizz
      ID: 325491823
      Tue, Nov 10, 2015, 14:33
Haha I just fired without proofreading...point taken. But you know what I mean 😉

i would support IR slots for players that were keepers. In the case of the Seahawks, Ogletree would qualify for it. However, he still has jacquizz rodgers (IR) on his roster who has no business being owned in any format. Total neglect on his part...he easily could've fielded a valid roster but purposely chose not to.
 
291youngroman
      ID: 57047243
      Tue, Nov 10, 2015, 14:56
I am with you Judy. we played the same opponent this week who had 4 slots filled with bye week players where suitable replacements were sitting on the bench. it did not change the outcome of the matchups this week but it would have been closer for both of us.

I accept that there are situations where it is tough to have a QB/K/DEF that actually plays. having a bye-week player active should be allowed for these positions, but not for others. there is always a RB/WR/TE/DL/LB/DB out there that will give you some points. having an injured player active should not be allowed for players that are deemed doubtful or worse during the week (through the official injury report) or that missed their last game. there may be a surprise DNP of a questionable player that is sometimes announced too late to get a replacement player. such a situation should not be penalized.

1 or 2 IR slots could help in some cases (it would have helped me a lot this year) but only if the players that are put on IR must be kept. otherwise this may get abused.
 
292Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Tue, Nov 10, 2015, 17:32
Doug / 283:
This week one team had two IDP on bye and 3 IDP on the bench who could have been active. (Points were 1.00, 6.00, 11.00). He also started a back up QB with zero chance of playing and benched a QB starter who earned 21.44 points. He still would have lost both but they would have been close.

That's what I am talking about.

I take issue with your definition of competitiveness. There is individual team competitiveness and there is also league competitiveness and someone who willingly does not activate a competitive lineup is not good for the league over all. That manager is being selfish.

What about league competitiveness, giving victories to opponents teams who do not deserve it -- because you refused to play available players. How does that make the LEAGUE competitive?
 
293Nerfherders
      ID: 161121811
      Tue, Nov 10, 2015, 19:49
I desperately tried to pick up for my byes last week and utterly failed. I drafted the Saints (from a handful of dud DEF's at that point) specifically against the Titans, and they got steamrolled. I picked up Petty on waivers thinking he might have to start, and didn't. I picked up Vick thinking he might come in at least on some wildcats, and was a gametime scratch (ironically, Roth's came out of the game and Vick would've played). I picked up SD's third TE when Green was made doubtful, and he picked up no targets. I ended up 23 yards short of picking up a win when Floyd and Phillips got zero's. Bleh!

That being said, sometimes it just makes sense to put a bye player in when you are looking down the road to next week, or even the weeks after. I did such with a LB 3 weeks ago and ended up with the high score of the week that week. At the time he was my only healthy LB and I didn't want to let him go. Sadly, I was forced to when I needed a QB, but I had a couple other LB's come back since then.
 
294GO
      ID: 39727167
      Tue, Nov 10, 2015, 20:51
Praying for a score correction after losing by .05! I still don't know what happened. I guess Beasley is Slizz's favorite player right now. I lose Leveon and score most I've scored all year after taking a 0 from my random RB spot start.

Nobody should have bye week starters with active guys on the bench. Nobody disagrees with that.

I can see scenarios where it really hurts a team to drop a key backup guy to add and fill a K or DEF spot when it likely won't make any difference... and it just hurts them more long term. I don't think that helps anybody.
 
295Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Tue, Nov 10, 2015, 20:54
I am thinking the issue is using bye players on your active roster when you have non bye players on your bench in those positions.

They should be playing not riding the bench.

I personally have no issue with byes for QB, K and DST since there are not enough to cover byes. But all other positions do have enough players to do so.

Also drafting to manage bye weeks can be done.

 
296Frick
      ID: 40702719
      Wed, Nov 11, 2015, 06:32
Drafting for bye weeks can be done, but it is hard in this league due to it being a keeper league and the size of the league and number of keepers.

It also forces very hard decisions on when to drop a player. If you have a rookie that you think will be good in future years, do you risk dropping him for a bye week fill in? For teams fighting for a play-off spot, probably. For teams that are rebuilding, not so much.

I don't believe I would support a rule that forced teams to drop players simply to find a bye week fill in. I would support a rule that penalized teams for starting bye week players when active players were on their roster.

That being said, I picked up a IDP after hearing that Jamie Collins was Questionable. Unfortunately I was busy and didn't have internet access when it was announced he wouldn't play. It was a calculated risk on my part. Between that a O from another IDP, I probably cost myself a chance at a win that I desperately need to make the play-offs.
 
297Slizz
      ID: 325491823
      Wed, Nov 11, 2015, 10:43
I just have a problem with rewarding tanking and roster neglect. the lack of enforcement only encourages it.

How fair would it be if Leonard Fournette was coming out and those blatant losses rewarded that team with his services?

I understand there are going to be bad teams...but at least make an effort. No excuses for having bye week players in any position except QB, DST, and K (to a degree...if you own two kickers that's just a waste).

You start to penalize these infractions and the bs should stop. We are all grown ups and understand the rules and consequences of breaking them. If it's a time issue and you can't dedicate yourself to the league then maybe it's not for you. Believe me, I'm not asking for a lot. Just check your roster...it's 5 minutes out of your week...
 
298 Slizz
      ID: 325491823
      Wed, Nov 11, 2015, 10:53
Nerf - you're trying. Same with Frick and Collins. If a guy is questionable, so be it...I've had that happen to me in other leagues as I am tied up on something or playing with my daughter. Can't help it.

GO - Beasley or not, I just didn't bring it. Dropping Hunter for Inman didn't help bc of his TD...I'm still alive thanks to Promize (not happy about that) as I think 13-13 could get that 4 seed. However, 0-6 in the division isn't gonna help me come tiebreak time. 14-12 might've got it done as I'm pretty much clear of byes and have all wr/rb 1's who are healthy.

That said, I will be looking to trade Charcandrick West to an interested party. I need to go 8-0 to finish the season and still play Oakland / a couple heavyweights. Looking for draft picks only as I actually have a decent stable of keepers...
 
299 CT
      ID: 4510151111
      Wed, Nov 11, 2015, 12:16
Slizz in 297 hit the key point (s).

This league should never allow the Philadelphia 76ers to participate.

Nerf - I agree -sometimes things happen. Not a big deal what you are describing with your lineup.

I am in favor of the 1 IR spot, provided it is keeper specific. This could resolve some of the minor roster issues week to week.

I think we can take these issues as an opportunity to improve things next year. Great topic and participation.

 
300GO
      ID: 39727167
      Wed, Nov 11, 2015, 13:53
I agree one IR slot should be proposed -- and if you move the guy in you are forced to keep him is a great starting point for everyone.
 
301skinneej
      ID: 478182311
      Wed, Nov 11, 2015, 15:43
Anyone need a QB this week, Cassel is available. Shoot me any offers.
 
302PeteN.
      ID: 8550318
      Wed, Nov 11, 2015, 19:48
Good summary by Slizz in post 297. I couldn't agree more.
 
303Promize
      ID: 35392417
      Thu, Nov 12, 2015, 12:18
So, however long this league has been going, I have never tried to tank. I've always tried to maintain my team the best I could to be competitive...

Last week I had a million bye positions and I just decided to say I'm taking a loss this week...

I'm definitely not going to drop the only starters I have so I can pick up some scrub that has a .2 avg pts per game so everyone is happy go lucky in the league that a full lineup is available...

Anyways, I did notify GO and Judy this is probably my last year. The joy and fun of this league has pretty much diminished.
 
304TD
      ID: 8737711
      Fri, Nov 13, 2015, 16:06
We had a vote to drop Def a couple years ago and it did not pass. I still support dropping Def, but I don't expect it to pass if we vote again.

I propose the following as a compromise to be voted on this offseason if it is possible to configure our league this way.

Change 'Number of Starting Defs:1' to 'Number of Starting Defs:0-1'.

Change 'Total Number of Starting Individual Defensive Players:5' to 'Total Number of Starting Individual Defensive Players + Starting Defs:6'

With this change, a manager can start a 6th IDP instead of a team defense.
 
305beastiemiked
      ID: 481162721
      Sat, Nov 14, 2015, 20:44
I've got two tight ends with higher PPG than any of my RB's. Something isn't right with that. I'm interested in a RB that will score 10+ PPG on average, preferably someone without much keeper potential as I don't want to spend a lot(but will if the right player comes along).
 
306Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Sun, Nov 15, 2015, 07:53
304. Would you still need to have a DST on your roster? Or would it be a full choice DST or IDP?

Thoughts?
 
307TD
      ID: 8737711
      Mon, Nov 16, 2015, 15:30
You would not need to have a DST on your roster.
 
308VampireWeekend
      ID: 161051615
      Mon, Nov 16, 2015, 16:05
Time to get rid of DST...
 
309Nerfherders
      ID: 161121811
      Mon, Nov 16, 2015, 18:47
Wow, my team has suddenly gone stinktastic. I've gone from comfortable division lead to fighting for a playoff spot.
 
310Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Mon, Nov 16, 2015, 22:30
Speaking of playoffs.

Does anyone have the info on how to seed the teams. Ref did it last year...
 
311youngroman
      ID: 57047243
      Tue, Nov 17, 2015, 04:33
#1 seed = division winner with best record
#2 seed = other division winner
#3 seed = wildcard team with best record
#4 seed = other wildcard team

tie breakers are points then # of TD's then highest weekly score


I hope GO got the memo that the winner of the AFC East must have a losing record to reach the playoffs. My team is doing fine in reaching that goal.
 
312Slizz
      ID: 325491823
      Tue, Nov 17, 2015, 12:49
Buffalo is coming. 13-13!!!!
 
313Slackjawed Yokel
      ID: 38502923
      Tue, Nov 17, 2015, 22:31
Ugh... Lost by 0.02 points. On the upside, it seems that's an alltime record for closest score....
 
314Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Tue, Nov 17, 2015, 22:40
Thanks yr.

How to seed the next group of 8 and then the next group of 8?

Best record?
Total points?

Regardless of conference?
 
315GO
      ID: 39727167
      Tue, Nov 17, 2015, 23:54
Yes YR - excited to see our division winner try to get in under .500... we're like the NFC East or Seattle in Marshawn's earthquake game.
 
316youngroman
      ID: 57047243
      Wed, Nov 18, 2015, 03:54
Judy - as far as I know the seeding of rest is not specified, but since the criteria is record then points for playoff teams why shouldn't it be the same for all other teams. I would not split them up based on conference, so that the field from 9-16 and 17-24 is more even. these games are just for fun and don't count for draft seeding, so it does not really matter.

GO - what is more interesting is that last year our division was the power horse of the whole league with all but 1 team with a winning record and 3 of 4 playoff teams were from the AFC East. This year it is the complete opposite. I know what happened to my team, just ask Arian Foster, Joique Bell, Kelvin Benjamin, Vincent Jackson, Charles Johnson, DeAndre Levy how good they played this year, if they even played.
 
317Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Wed, Nov 18, 2015, 18:51
Nerf, my team has been stinktastic all season.

Just ask Foles, Morris, WR Mathews how they have played. Hicks goes to IR with the best IDP points.

Thank goodness for Landry, Olsen and usually, the Denver DST.

I do have some babies in the wings though: Ajayi and Parker once they get healthy and some chances, but not for this year that's for sure.
 
318youngroman
      ID: 57047243
      Fri, Nov 20, 2015, 03:58
I hate it when your player misses lots of points because of pass interferences by the defense.
 
319Frick
      ID: 147221011
      Fri, Nov 20, 2015, 08:50
Re: 318

The downside of owning Randy Moss back in the day.
 
320Frick
      ID: 147221011
      Fri, Nov 20, 2015, 09:06
Did we ever decide or post what the prize pool/distribution is for this year?

I need to decide how much to moan my 5 Coulda Won games.


Does anyone have any interest in Tevin Coleman? I would be willing to move him for a LB or DB who might score points this weekend. Thanks Derrick Morgan for your 2nd 0 in 3 weeks. At least he made the write-up for the game with Blake Bortles calling him out for not being able to cover a TE.
 
321Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Fri, Nov 20, 2015, 13:46
here are 2014 prize money awards:

Here are the winning $$$ additions for the 2014 season.

I split the $10 best record among cinn, sd and NOLA.

$103. Roman vock/cinn
$60. Tom douris/nyg
$42.50 cc rider/chi
$45.50 mike dubiel/mjd/sd
$33.00 toral/NOLA
$22.50 building 7/BALT
$17.50 Pete/dal
$15.00 Weiner/beastie/HOU

No discussion, so it will be the same for 2015.
 
322Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Fri, Nov 20, 2015, 13:50
Since I had it out...

These folks have a credit for 2016:

Carolina: $17.50
Buffalo: $45.00
Cincinnati: $58.00
San Diego: $88.00
Arizona: $20.00
NYG: $35.00

Everyone else is zero summed.

I expect dues for 2016 to be the same: $25.

If you want your credit back to you for holiday shopping, I can PayPal it to you. Shoot me an email.
 
323Building 7
      ID: 247521719
      Sat, Nov 21, 2015, 23:33
Trade Announcement:

Ravens trade Hankerson and 7th round pick to the Seahawks for Sanchez and 10 round pick.
 
324PromizeOutofTown
      ID: 2110122210
      Sun, Nov 22, 2015, 11:12
^^ Confirmed.
 
325beastiemiked
      ID: 481162721
      Tue, Nov 24, 2015, 09:21
Why must it be a treasure hunt to find common landing spots such as the scoreboard(with breakdown) from last week or the waiver order? I found the scoreboard but it only shows the scores from last week and not the details.
 
326TD
      ID: 8737711
      Tue, Nov 24, 2015, 13:07
It is not a treasure hunt if you customize your home page to include the information you are interested in.
 
327GO
      ID: 39727167
      Tue, Nov 24, 2015, 16:20
I have done that an it IS still a treasure hunt to figure out where anything is. Why not just have it in easily accessible logical places like Yahoo and ESPN manage to in the first place? And THEN I can tweak what I want.

Positives? My favorite report on my Gameday tab that i added was Monday Report.

There is a ton of info in a variety of ways to view it. But its seemingly impossible to remember difference in all the variuos reports like Full Free Agent vs. Top Free Agent -- I forget every week which has what.
 
328Toral
      ID: 010471419
      Tue, Nov 24, 2015, 18:55
No draft choices in the Cooks/Allen trade.
 
329Nerfherders
      ID: 161121811
      Wed, Nov 25, 2015, 13:46
I was looking for this and couldn't find it, even going back to threads from previous seasons... What are the tiebreaking rules for the playoffs? I thought there was a head to head component in this league.
 
330beastiemiked
      ID: 469172814
      Wed, Nov 25, 2015, 16:20
I looked into customizing my homepage but most of the options were for pages that are never used. I still haven't found where to find find previous weeks match ups with scoring details.

Like GO said, they should give everyone a basic layout to start. Way too many menus and options. It might be just because I'm getting old. I coukd also name 100 reasons why I hate other sports websites(99% of those are based on ads and other useless content though. At least I still have baseballreference.com
 
331Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Wed, Nov 25, 2015, 18:41
329. Check out YR list in 311.

I can't find it in our bylaws...

I do think they were copied by someone when we moved from CBS...
 
332Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Wed, Nov 25, 2015, 22:42
325/330

Try roster and then the roster w stats link and look at the other links on that page top as well. Lotsa detail as there and you can get them for any team.
 
333Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Wed, Nov 25, 2015, 22:45
Beastie

I found it.

Go to the regular link on the left side. Pick the week you want for the match summary. At the very bottom is a link for details. It's all there...
 
334Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Wed, Nov 25, 2015, 22:48
333 oops


Regular should be "results" link...
 
335Nerfherders
      ID: 2211442615
      Thu, Nov 26, 2015, 12:42
I just had to dig a little deeper... I found this in the 2011 season page.

http://www.angelfire.com/games5/gurupie/footcon.html

Tiebreakers are total points btw.
 
336Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Thu, Nov 26, 2015, 14:53
Unbelievable how bad the Eagles are. They have zero skill players at any position...

Brady is next - maybe he'll score 100...could break the record with 9/10 TD passes...

 
337deepsnapper
      ID: 5010582911
      Sun, Nov 29, 2015, 12:59
MFL says Philly played Thursday vs Detroit and won't let me swap out Carrol for Cromarte! What's up with that?
 
338GO
      ID: 39727167
      Sun, Nov 29, 2015, 15:07
Why would they let you swap out a guy that already played?
 
339Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Sun, Nov 29, 2015, 15:34
Well I rode Foles to the G24 championship a few years ago, but now he is driving me to the bottom. OMG, he's bad.

Too late for this season since trade deadline is done, but I am in the market for a starting QB who has some skills...
 
340Toral
      ID: 010471419
      Sun, Nov 29, 2015, 17:21
Nerfherders 335: there is a later version of the rules that is not available at that website. It comes from our old CBS website -- which as of this preseason was still alive, in that you could see the rules and copy them -- which I did. (Altho you have to ignore their demands on every page to pay up to renew.) I made a copy of them; I sent a copy of Judy pre-season so she has a copy of them; my guess is that they are still available.

They are the last "official rules".

 
341Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Mon, Nov 30, 2015, 08:54
Great...

Now Brady is really gonna take it out on the Iggles this week...
 
342Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Mon, Nov 30, 2015, 09:15
Btw. Osweiler drafted in round 8 this year by buffalo.

What a pick going forth...☺️🤗
 
343Frick
      ID: 40702719
      Sun, Dec 06, 2015, 11:45
I just saw that Gronk is out for today. I tried to pick up a couple of other TEs, but they only show as being able to be picked up for next week. I will not have internet access until late tonight. Hopefully no one else is having similar issues.
 
344Doug
      ID: 19613816
      Sun, Dec 06, 2015, 12:54
It always shows that on Sundays I feel like (on the player page, the "Add" button is under week 14)... but if you add the player before kickoff it will still do the transaction immediately. At least, that's been my experience all season... one of the many "glories" of MFL. :)
 
345GO
      ID: 39727167
      Sun, Dec 06, 2015, 17:39
Were the TE's you tried add Ebron or Rodgers? Cause they already played, no idea otherwise... and where did you just see that he is out? I didn't think he had any chance of playing for several weeks?
 
346youngroman
      ID: 57047243
      Mon, Dec 07, 2015, 03:56
my team is already in playoff form. Or should I say Russell Wilson is. He better teaches some of my other players that they should play like him.

re 282 - it happened again. this time not with bye-week players, but with injured ones: Ryan Mathews, Jimmy Graham, Karlos Williams and Tony Romo (he may be excused).
 
347skinneej
      ID: 14911313
      Mon, Dec 07, 2015, 22:11
With 2nd half still to play, there are 5 teams in the NFC still playing for 3 of the 4 playoff spots. There's a chance for 5 teams to all end 16-10, so will be interesting to see if it holds up and the tie-breakers come into play.
 
348Slizz
      ID: 111119723
      Tue, Dec 08, 2015, 00:26
Unofficial Draft Order (barring any change or penalties):

1) Colts
2) Chiefs
3) Jaguars
4) Seahawks
5) Cardinals / Bills (judy won the head to head matchup, but I have more points. we are tied with conference and divisional records)
7) Panthers

Hopefully a top 6 pick in back to back years. At least the buffalo bills cupboard is stocked unlike last year:

QB - Ryan, Osweiler (FA week 8)
RB - Langford (2015 5th rd), West (FA week 6)
WR - Dez Bryant, Hopkins (2015 1st rd via Mariota), Kevin White (2015 2nd rd), Stefon Diggs (FA week 5)
TE - Ebron
LB - Von Miller, Anthony Barr (2015 9th rd via trade), Khalil Mack (FA week 11)
Rams DST

Good luck to all in the playoffs!
 
349skinneej
      ID: 478182311
      Tue, Dec 08, 2015, 15:36
So another year where it comes down to the wire and I just miss out on the playoffs. This year it was with 44 secs to go in the last MNF game when DJax caught the TD that cost me a win and a spot in the playoffs. It wouldn't have mattered if my week 10 win vs KC had not been reversed after 3 scoring changes resulted in a 4 pt win turning into a 1 pt loss. Crazy but oh well...
 
350skinneej
      ID: 478182311
      Tue, Dec 08, 2015, 15:49
Playoff Details from prior years:

Playoff Game Tiebreak Policy:
1st tiebreaker: Most TDs scored
2nd tie: Most TDs passing
3rd tie: Highest single scoring player
4th tie Next highest scoring player and so on

Playoff teams will be announced at the end of week #13, which is the end of the regular season. Playoff teams will be seeded accordingly:

#1 seed = division winner with best record
#2 seed = other division winner
#3 seed = wildcard team with best record
#4 seed = other wildcard team

Seeds #1/#4 and Seeds #2/#3 will play in week #14, with the winners advancing to meet for their respective conference championship in week #15. Each conference winner will advance to the SuperBowl to be held in week #16. Losers will also continue playing to vie for placement for cash prizes (if app.). i.e. If you lose in round one, the best you can do is 5th place.

Runner-Up playoffs: We run teams 9-16 (Wanna-be Bowl) and teams 17-24 (Toilet Bowl) in a single elimination version of our Super Bowl. All stats will count but only regular season records will be counted toward your draft order for the following year.

So here are the playoff seeds:

AFC
#1 Chargers vs #4 Texans
#2 Bengals vs #3 Raiders

NFC
#1 Bears vs #4 Cowboys
#2 Saints vs #3 Giants

Wanna Be Bowl:
#9 Lions vs #16 Panthers
#10 Packers vs #15 Broncos
#11 Browns vs #14 49ers
#12 Eagles vs #13 Ravens

Toilet Bowl:
#17 Vikings vs #24 Colts
#18 Jets vs #23 Chiefs
#19 Bills vs #22 Jaquars
#20 Cardinals vs #21 Seahawks
 
351skinneej
      ID: 478182311
      Tue, Dec 08, 2015, 15:58
The other big reminder is that for all non-playoff teams #9-24, there are no Adds/Drops allowed at this point so one of the commishes needs to lock teams from transactions. Only the top 8 playoff teams are allowed transactions from this point forward as in all previous years.
 
352Nerfherders
      ID: 161121811
      Tue, Dec 08, 2015, 16:59
Ugh, I would have rather lost all 12 of my remaining games then have been tie-breakered out of the playoffs. Now I have the most unenviable finishing spot in the league.

I can't really explain my collapse. I was humming along then all of my key players decided to get hurt, or not play, or just not play well. The only guy that actually picked up his game in the second half was Stafford, and even that wasn't enough. Tthere were a couple games I lost by less than 2 points that I could have won easily by picking the right players to start. I struggled with WR's all season and picked the wrong one to drop (Baldwin). I'm not sure James Jones is even on his team anymore.

On the bright side, It was a winning season, I got things turned around from a beyond awful season last year, and if I can find a WR this team might be tough to beat next year.
 
353Nerfherders
      ID: 161121811
      Tue, Dec 08, 2015, 17:01
Isn't there also a rule that anyone a playoff team picks up now cannot be kept?
 
354skinneej
      ID: 478182311
      Tue, Dec 08, 2015, 18:16
Yes that is correct.
 
355beastiemiked
      ID: 5911312710
      Tue, Dec 08, 2015, 23:38
I think wildcard seeding should be based on points and not w/l record. Obviously we can't change it this year but it doesn't make much sense that we award the wildcards based on points but then do the seeding based on w/l. Kinda stinks my team scored the 3rd most points yet has to face the team that scored the 2nd most points in round 1. Our current setup could lead to the top 2 point totals facing off in round 1.
 
356Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Wed, Dec 09, 2015, 07:53
Skinnej

Thanks so much for setting up seedlings. I am on vacation with just the I pad and no printer. so it's is tricky.

Can you check what I have done so far?

It also did the abilities so only main draw can makes changes,

I did the championship and will do the others later today/tonight.
 
357Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Wed, Dec 09, 2015, 07:54
Also does waiver order change? Probably too late for that...
 
359Frick
      ID: 147221011
      Wed, Dec 09, 2015, 08:35
Looking back at the prior season's on MFL, I think I set a new record for Could Won games this year with 8, the previous high was 7 (I don't know if CBS had a similar stat). It didn't help that I had two weeks where my team was flat out awful. One of my Could Won games was 61-60, so I can't feel to bad.
 
360skinneej
      ID: 478182311
      Wed, Dec 09, 2015, 12:38
Looks correct to me Judy.

[355] Not sure I understand. The seedings for Div Winner and wildcards are both done by W/L record first, then for any ties the total points scored are used. The only thing that is unique is that instead of seeding #1-4 based on record, the Div winner with the worst W/L record gets the #2 seed regardless of the records of the wild card teams.

It's just bad luck sometimes that a first round matchup may pit two top scoring teams against each other. We've had many discussions over the years about whether points scored should factor in more that W/L record for things like final wild card spots or playoff seedings, but the consensus was to not change the system. I was unfortunate to have a situation 2 years in a row ('08 and '09) where my team was the 2nd highest scoring team in the regular season out of 24 teams, but did not make the playoffs either year. In '08 I was actually tied for the final wild card spot in the NFC with the Giants, but the Giants just happened to be the #1 scoring team in the league that season, so they made it in over me.

 
361skinneej
      ID: 478182311
      Wed, Dec 09, 2015, 12:52
I do think that we could look at adding other tiebreaker options ahead of points scored like head to head, division record and conference record. I'd like to see points scored be further down the list. Scoring a lot of points is good and will win you more games than not, but it still comes down to wins and losses and how you manage the bye weeks and injuries. If you win all your games by 30+ points, but lose several by just a few points, its still about your W/L record just like in the NFL.

My suggestion would be:
1st Tie-breaker: Head to Head record
2nd Tie-breaker: Division record
3rd Tie-breaker: Conference record
4th Tie-breaker: Total points scored

If we had applied those this year, the 3 NFC teams that were tied for the wild card spots at 16-10 would have resulted in the following:

NY Giants would have gotten the first wild card spot with head to head wins over both the Cowboys and Lions. The Cowboys and Lions split their 2 inter-division games, and also had the same division record of 6-4, so it would have been decided by the conference record where the Cowboys would have won. So the seeds would have been the same in this case, but in most years would probably give a different yet more conclusive outcome.

Although it didn't matter this year since I wasn't tied for a wildcard spot, but I was 9-1 in my division, yet finished 3rd based on overall record. Guess I just sucked against most other teams this year.
 
362beastiemiked
      ID: 469172814
      Wed, Dec 09, 2015, 15:28
I thought it was the 2 division winners and then the next two teams with the highest point totals make the playoffs. Am I wrong? We actually base our playoffs on w/l first. So in theory the team with the most points could actually miss the playoffs? If so, that's outrageous. Points is the only thing we semi have control over. W/L is all luck.
 
363skinneej
      ID: 478182311
      Wed, Dec 09, 2015, 15:46
Points only matter for tie-breakers. This has been the same since we created the league in 2002.

From the bylaws:
There will be 8 teams that make the playoffs. Each division winner (4) will make the playoffs. The next 2 teams with the best records AFC (east/west divisions) & the next 2 teams with the best records NFC (north/south divisions) will also make the playoffs. It is possible for both wildcards to come from the same division (IE west). If there is a tie at any level, the first tie breaker will be total points accumulated during the year. The second tie breaker will be most total TDs scored during the year. The third tie breaker will be the single highest week point total.
 
364skinneej
      ID: 478182311
      Wed, Dec 09, 2015, 16:08
I realize we are all pretty old now and don't remember stuff much, but I was digging through some old threads and pretty much the same conversations were had many years ago about points. Check out This thread from 2009

Starting around post 386 and on down there was solid discussion both ways. It's funny bmd that you posted the same thing then (post 397 and others), but ultimately there was not enough support from the league to change the process. There were good ideas tossed out like 12 team playoffs vs 8, but this league has always been reluctant to make big changes and often it has probably been for the best.
 
365Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Wed, Dec 09, 2015, 19:32
Thanks skinner just,

Will do two other tourneys either right now from airport or when I get home.
 
366beastiemiked
      ID: 481162721
      Wed, Dec 09, 2015, 23:59
Wow, great digging. I do not remember that(yes we are definitely all getting old). Crazy that it was 6 years ago and I used your team as an example. I think I made some good points :) Maybe we can revisit it in the off-season.

 
367skinneej
      ID: 478182311
      Thu, Dec 10, 2015, 12:16
Yeah I wish your proposal for last wildcard spot be based on points had made it through. It would have helped me again this year as I was the 6th highest scoring team in the league and would have edged out the Cowboys for the final NFC spot.

I think we can re-open the discussion since we've had several new managers since '09 and maybe the sentiment has changed. The other option that had some interest was adding 2 more playoff spots from each conference that would give us 12 total playoff teams, and starting the playoffs in week 13. Then top 2 teams from each conference would get a bye in week 13. It would reduce the regular season by 1 week, but since we have double headers that is still 24 games to get a good sample size for playoff positioning.
 
368Toral
      ID: 010471419
      Thu, Dec 10, 2015, 13:21
I'll plump for 361: h-t-h tiebreakers in a h-t-h league:

1st Tie-breaker: Head to Head record
2nd Tie-breaker: Division record
3rd Tie-breaker: Conference record
4th Tie-breaker: Total points scored
 
369PeteN.
      ID: 8550318
      Sat, Dec 12, 2015, 16:52
Good luck to all that made the playoffs! I like the current setup and wouldn't want to change anything up. This is fantasy football. W-L record with total points as a tiebreaker makes the most sense to me.
 
370PeteN.
      ID: 8550318
      Sat, Dec 12, 2015, 16:56
I sneak into the playoffs and get rewarded with facing the best team in the league. We'll see how far Brady and the boys can take me.
 
371beastiemiked
      ID: 469172814
      Fri, Dec 18, 2015, 15:14
I lost first round but why am I playing a NFC team? Shouldn't I be facing the Bengals?
 
372Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Sat, Dec 19, 2015, 21:15
Beastie. Fixed, thanks for noticing...
 
373beastiemiked
      ID: 481162721
      Sun, Dec 20, 2015, 09:40
I can't make any add's. Do we revoke rights to add/drop for teams that have lost in the playoffs but still vying for money spots? Kinda stinks I'm going to be putting up zero in spot.
 
374GO
      ID: 1311391312
      Sun, Dec 20, 2015, 16:13
Yes. Would you prefer we go back to 5 years ago when NOBODY could add or drop when the playoffs started? including those playing for the title? Thats how it used to be. I got the league to approve this compromise of those still contending for the title as long as nobody could be kept added after Week 13.
 
375beastiemiked
      ID: 481162721
      Sun, Dec 20, 2015, 21:13
No, obviously not. If rosters are locked down then it would be better to just let all those that lost their 1st round games the same finishing place.
 
376youngroman
      ID: 57047243
      Mon, Dec 21, 2015, 05:18
could have used some WR's after 2 went down last week. but it is as it is. sometimes you have bad luck and it hit me big time all season. only 2 of my keepers stayed healthy all year: Russell Wilson, and JJ Watt. 2 great athletes to build a team around for next season.
 
377Tree
      ID: 211133217
      Mon, Dec 21, 2015, 08:33
i'd definitely be on the side of allowing anyone still playing for money be allowed to make pick ups.
 
378Nerfherders
      ID: 161121811
      Tue, Dec 22, 2015, 11:00
Oh, Lions, why couldn't I have gotten these last two weeks from you guys 4 weeks ago? 5 weeks ago?
 
379Doug
      ID: 19613816
      Wed, Dec 23, 2015, 10:31
Best of luck to ccrider in the championship game... sucks to lose Odell but I hopefully have enough depth to make it a good contest! :)
 
380Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Wed, Dec 30, 2015, 23:13
Congrats to Oakland.

I'll get the final list from playoff games the $$ list and the draft list up shortly.

Also I have ideas for rules tweaks for 2016. We should do them now, before baseball begins.
 
381Slizz
      ID: 2611402412
      Thu, Dec 31, 2015, 09:38
Congrats, Doug.

As for tiebreak scenarios, could anyone chime in to what they are?

Judy and I are currently tied for the 5th/6th pick:
-we have identical records
-same conference
-she won h2h
-I have total points

Who would get the 5th?
 
382skinneej
      ID: 478182311
      Thu, Dec 31, 2015, 15:04
Yes congrats Doug on a great season and final playoff run!

Per current rules, tie-breakers are only based on total points, so Arizona would have the 5th slot and Buffalo the 6th slot. The top 16 draft picks are based on final regular season finish (as documented in post 350), where the bottom 8 are based on final playoff finish. I believe this list below is the correct draft order for 2016 (note round 1 top 16 spots will be based on lottery results).

1. Colts
2. Chiefs
3. Jaguars
4. Seahawks
5. Cardinals
6. Bills
7. Jets
8. Vikings
9. Panthers
10. Broncos
11. 49ers
12. Ravens
13. Eagles
14. Browns
15. Packers
16. Lions
17. Cowboys
18. Bengals
19. Texans
20. Saints
21. Chargers
22. Giants
23. Bears
24. Raiders
 
383PeteN.
      ID: 8550318
      Thu, Dec 31, 2015, 15:56
Congrats Doug!
 
384Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Fri, Jan 01, 2016, 09:23
Skinnej,

Slizz has total points so he gets 5th?

 
385skinneej
      ID: 11192115
      Fri, Jan 01, 2016, 11:40
Slizz "won" the tie-breaker so his team finished higher than yours in the final standings. So that means you have the higher draft pick since its inverse of regular season finish.
 
386Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Mon, Apr 04, 2016, 17:07
A little late,but whatever.

Prize monies

$100. Oakland
$60. Bears, plus $10 bonus for best record
$42.50. NYG
$42.50. SD
$30. NOLA
$22.50. Houston
$17.50. Cincy
$15.00. Dallas

 
387Doug
      ID: 326332712
      Fri, Jul 29, 2016, 16:10
IR Proposal:

IR Slot #1 - A regular IR slot... if/when they come off IR, players must be activated within 48 hours (or whatever the appropriate grace period is).

IR Slot #2 - If your team gets really banged up, you can put a second player on IR. At this point, you must designate one of the two IR players as a keeper for the following year. Even if the player is activated during the season, the keeper designation holds. If the player is traded, the new team inherits this keeper requirement as well (and the new team must acknowledge their awareness of this designation prior to the trade being processed by commisioner(s)).

Both slots: After the Fantasy Championship, IR goes away. All teams with 1+ IR player must cut down their roster while maintaining a valid lineup (i.e., if you only have 1 K, you can't drop your K). Obviously players in IR Slot #2 can't be dropped. In short, nobody gets to carry extra players forward to the following year's keeper decision-making process.
 
388mjd
      ID: 56311613
      Sat, Aug 06, 2016, 13:20
In a deep league like this, I'm not crazy about having any IR slots.

The FA player pool is shallow enough and as CT pointed out, this is a tough league with difficult decisions a major part of the overall strategy.
 
389Doug
      ID: 326332712
      Mon, Aug 08, 2016, 16:33
I guess I'm proposing it under the assumption that we are going to impose penalties for any team that has a starter on IR (even if the player is due back soon, etc.). I don't think we should be forcing teams to run a short bench just because they had some guys get injured (especially if they have to cover every slot every week).

I'd even vote for this while simultaneously eliminating a roster spot... if all your guys are healthy, you can afford to lose a roster spot... thus would likely end up with a few additional players in the FA pool if that's the concern (b/c likely <24 players would be on IR at most points during the season).

One other thing I'd add to the proposal is that the player has to be on your roster before he is placed on IR (or widely anticipated to be placed on IR). You can't pick up a player just to stash him on IR.

So feel free to add these to the proposal... from above:

- Eliminate 1 active roster bench spot
- Players are only eligible for Fantasy IR if they are on your team prior to being placed (or prior to being expected to be placed) on the NFL IR.
 
390Toral
      ID: 535571316
      Mon, Aug 08, 2016, 18:37
Guyz, far from me to be critical, but everyone else has moved over to the 2016 thread:

http://rotoguru1.com/cgi-bin/read.pl?board=footst&thread=1123&last=1470694760