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Subject: Swirve Guys Keeper League draft

  Posted by: kev - [11438306] Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 22:48
The other site went down again, lets try and move here....

Pete- Faulk, Rod Smith, Brett Farve
Ryan- Alexander, Boston, Brooks
Dean- Green, Garcia, Antowain Smith
Chris- Warner, Fred Taylor, Micheal Pittman
Josh- Manning, Holt, Moulds
G- Ricky Williams, Harrison, McNabb
Doc- Curtis Martin, Terrell Owens, Bettis
Eric- Culpepper, Eddie George
TD- Moss, Davis
Harry- Holmes, Tomlinson
Kevin- Dillion, ATrain

Eric's pick
 
1 Y2J
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 22:53 		hey! you left me out!
James, McAllister, McNair
 
2kev
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 22:54 		i did miss that. Sorry
 
3Chris
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 22:55 		I'm here.....who else is though?
 
4eric
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 22:55 		i picked joe horn...it should have posted on chris boards
 
5tduncan
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 22:55 		I'm here, g is here.
 
6Chris
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 22:56 		swirve boards seem to be up and eric took joe horn
 
9 deanodog
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 22:57 		I'm here, who's after eric?
 
10kev
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 22:58 		TD, harry, then myself
 
11tduncan
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 22:59 		I took keysahwn
 
12harry
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 22:59 		i am here...where r we
 
13ryan
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:00 		i'm here
 
14Chris
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:00 		looks like we're over there -- you're up harry
 
15harry
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:00 		i am next right
 
16ryan
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:02 		yup, harry u are next
 
17tduncan
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:02 		it's down again. amazing. lets officialy move the draft to here.
 
18harry
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:02 		i take jimmy smith
 
19kev
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:02 		your up harry
 
20kev
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:02 		damn, gimme 2 secs, my 3 players all just went.
 
21Pete
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:03 		ok, kev, post the order before every even round....i'll do the same before every odd round
 
22deanodog
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:04 		harry's up
 
23kev
      ID: 11438306
      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:04 		just write who picks after you, makes it easy.

Tony Gonzalez
Isaac Bruce

Harry is up
 
24mr g
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:05 		boards back up
 
25eric
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:05 		can we just keep it all in one thread? simpler that way
 
26Chris
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:06 		agree with eric -- and keep it here
 
27Pete
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:06 		It's better on the forum....when it goes back up, whoever just picked last, fill in the blanks
 
28kev
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:07 		I already regret my picks. thats not good
 
29kev
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:07 		we are picking here. Plain and simple. These boards dont go down
 
30Pete
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:08 		ok, here is good...you're up harry
 
31harry
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:08 		tim brown

td is next
 
32tduncan
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:09 		William Green
 
33Pete
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:11 		1.Pete
2.Ryan
3.Dean
4.Chris
5.Josh
6.G
7.Doc
8.Y2J
9.Eric
10.TD
11.Harry
12.Kevin

Just for reference
 
34kev
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:11 		he and stephen davis are a lethal force
 
35kev
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:11 		eric is up
 
36tduncan
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:11 		eric is up
 
37harry
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:12 		how many more picks for tonight?
 
38tduncan
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:12 		we don't get points for 3-pointers, so gonzo might not help you much.
 
39doc
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:12 		great pc td
 
40tduncan
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:13 		as much as we can harry.
 
41Pete
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:13 		we just started the 4th of 21 rounds....let's pick it up guys
 
42kev
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:14 		waiting on Eric...if he doesnt show, I will make the pick, as per he said

Tgone has as much chance of making the Heat as Terrell Owens and Randy Moss do.

Im not worried. I got the best TE
 
43deanodog
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:14 		2 rb's 3 wr's and a wilcard position right?
 
44doc
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:15 		eric, y2j, me
 
45kev
      ID: 11438306
      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:15 		no wildcard. Just 2 RB and 3 WR
 
46Pete
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:16 		no wildcard i believe
 
47kev
      ID: 11438306
      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:16 		Im heading out here, but stopping in at Ryan's.

I will be 15 minutes. If it gets back to me, wait.
 
48Chris
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:16 		7 minutes for eric...we gotta GO
 
49tduncan
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:16 		no wildcard...

1 QB
2 RB
3 WR
1 of all the rest
 
50eric
      ID: 7416916
      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:17 		i must go now...dont have time to make my next pick...kev take over for me...preferably rb...then whatever
 
51doc
      ID: 47612923
      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:17 		pic for eric first
 
52Pete
      ID: 22655922
      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:18 		ok, this is great...kev's gone for a bit...just pick eric
 
53doc
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:19 		jesushchristeric, you could have made your pick you little putz
 
54kev
      ID: 11438306
      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:21 		im here.
 
55deanodog
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:21 		I'll make it for him, next on the top 200 ranked players. he wanted a rb the next ranked one is Travis Henry, that's his pick
 
56kev
      ID: 11438306
      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:21 		I concur with dean
 
57deanodog
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:21 		opps....sorry kev, go ahead
 
58harry
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:22 		cmon man...just pick
 
59Pete
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:22 		well, eric just wanted espn's rankings didn't he...so, who's tops?
 
60kev
      ID: 11438306
      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:22 		no prob.

i still concur

see ya in 15.
 
61 Y2J
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:22 		Terry Glenn
 
62doc
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:23 		y2j is up
 
63tduncan
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:23 		ERIC TAKES TRAVIS HENRY

Y2J is on
 
64Chris
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:23 		she's a reach there.

doc...
 
65Pete
      ID: 22655922
      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:23 		ok, Eric gets Henry....you are up Y2J
 
66doc
      ID: 47612923
      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:24 		trent green
 
67Chris
      ID: 7655922
      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:24 		...sucks.

G...
 
68doc
      ID: 47612923
      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:25 		thats the spirit chris ( who took a 6th round rb in #2)
 
69Chris
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:26 		:)

(letsgetgoin)
 
70mr g
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:26 		duce staley
 
71Pete
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:27 		you're a punk G......Josh is up
 
72Chris
      ID: 7655922
      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:27 		josh ain't posted here yet...
 
73doc
      ID: 47612923
      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:28 		somebody email the old timer
 
74tduncan
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:29 		He is around (I think)
 
75j o s h
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:29 		hearst

 
76Chris
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:29 		chris chambers
 
77doc
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:31 		g f y chris
 
78Pete
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:31 		dean is up....then ryan, then me
 
79Chris
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:31 		:)
 
80deanodog
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:32 		Tiki Barber
 
81ryan
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:32 		Jamal Lewis
 
82Chris
      ID: 7655922
      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:32 		GOOD pick
 
83Chris
      ID: 7655922
      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:33 		GOOD pick
 
84Pete
      ID: 22655922
      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:33 		crap ryan
 
85Chris
      ID: 7655922
      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:33 		twice even
 
86Chris
      ID: 7655922
      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:33 		twice even
 
87Chris
      ID: 7655922
      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:33 		1.Pete
2.Ryan
3.Dean
4.Chris
5.Josh
6.G
7.Doc
8.Y2J
9.Eric
10.TD
11.Harry
12.Kevin

referance, again
 
88doc
      ID: 47612923
      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:34 		lets go pete
 
89Pete
      ID: 22655922
      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:35 		Terrell Davis
Ed McCafferey

Yes i know that's 3 injured broncos....watch out Brian Griese
 
90Pete
      ID: 22655922
      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:35 		that's 2 picks in 3 min....easy on the let's gos...:-)
 
91ryan
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:35 		Plaxico Burress
 
92Chris
      ID: 7655922
      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:36 		FARK YOU`
 
93harry
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:38 		is someone writing all this down...?
keep up the good pace
 
94deanodog
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:38 		troy brown
 
95Pete
      ID: 22655922
      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:38 		I have it all documented
 
96Chris
      ID: 7655922
      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:38 		YOU TOO!!!

damnit...gimmie a sec, there went my 2
 
97deanodog
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:39 		I'm trying to mark them off my master list but it's getting harder to see :)
 
98Chris
      ID: 7655922
      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:40 		jay fied......

naw....

*waves at doc*

darrell jackson
 
99doc
      ID: 47612923
      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:41 		josh, g, me

don't even think about it g...
 
100tduncan
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:41 		great pick chris. better then the 2 right before him.
 
101Chris
      ID: 7655922
      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:42 		i think burress'll be a monster, but I love seattle wideouts playing catchup in that division.
 
102doc
      ID: 47612923
      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:42 		fiedler would is far better suited to pair with pittman.....

:)
 
103Chris
      ID: 7655922
      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:44 		heh :)

bettis'll get ya 1000 rushing, 50 recieiving, and 5-7 TDs.

pittman'll be around 800 rushing, 4-500 recieving, and 5-7 TDs.

judgement call.....and hell yes i'm a homer.
 
104ryan
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:46 		josh is up
 
105doc
      ID: 47612923
      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:46 		JOSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
106harry
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:46 		someone pick please...uhhh j o s h
 
107ryan
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:46 		kev is over here now
 
108doc
      ID: 47612923
      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:49 		zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
 
109harry
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:49 		yoooooooooo
 
110deanodog
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:49 		Me think Josh is watching the 9th inning of the allstar game right now
 
111doc
      ID: 47612923
      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:49 		guess i have time to make another crown & soda
 
112tduncan
      ID: 423452813
      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:50 		10 minutes are up. kev what was the plan if that happenes?
 
113doc
      ID: 47612923
      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:50 		.....paint my living room
 
114doc
      ID: 47612923
      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:50 		......bend anna over
 
115Pete
      ID: 22655922
      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:51 		try to wait longer for Josh....if you give him the highest ranked player it hurts the rest of us....anyone have direct contact with him?
 
116harry
      ID: 8659922
      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:52 		whats the plan...do it
 
117ryan
      ID: 441057170
      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:52 		any sugguestions on what we should do?
kev
 
118ryan
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:53 		give him emmitt or micheal bennit? he needs another rb
 
119doc
      ID: 47612923
      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:53 		c'mon you guys, its hard for the bark chewin old timer to read in the moon light
 
120Chris
      ID: 7655922
      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:53 		my opinion --

proceed with round as normal, skipping josh.

give him the highest available ranked player at his biggest position of need at the end of this round if he doesn't show before then and pick.

picks made before him are lost to him - tough luck.
 
121tduncan
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:54 		sounds good. g your up.

josh can pick any time he shows up.
 
122harry
      ID: 8659922
      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:55 		deal
 
123ryan
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:55 		kev says we are giving him emmitt smith
 
124mr g
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:56 		derrick mason
 
125josh -- Not Chris
      ID: 7655922
      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:56 		RYAN LONGWELL!!!
 
126Pete
      ID: 22655922
      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:56 		can i have a copy of this top 200 list you guys are operating off of?
 
127doc
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:57 		michael bennet
 
128ryan
      ID: 441057170
      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:57 		http://games.espn.go.com/cgi/ffl/request.dll?RANKINGS&Param0=1&Param1=0&Param2=0&Param3=0
 
129mr g
      ID: 37655922
      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:58 		so e smith is gone
 
130ryan
      ID: 441057170
      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:59 		yes...stop drinking
 
131doc
      ID: 47612923
      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:59 		kev, pic for eric
 
132Pete
      ID: 22655922
      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:59 		so who does Josh get? why would you give him emmitt over bennett?
 
133 Y2J
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      Tue, Jul 09, 2002, 23:59 		Johnnie Morton
 
134ryan
      ID: 441057170
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:00 		y2j is up before eric

went with emmitt over bennet because i thought it was a move josh would make...kev
 
135mr g
      ID: 37655922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:00 		i'm lost now
 
136ryan
      ID: 441057170
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:00 		eric gets jerry rice
 
137deanodog
      ID: 14657922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:01 		bennett is already taken
 
138ryan
      ID: 441057170
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:01 		td is up
 
139deanodog
      ID: 14657922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:02 		doc took bennett
 
140doc
      ID: 47612923
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:02 		i have bennet? right?
 
141ryan
      ID: 441057170
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:03 		yes, and josh has smith
 
142tduncan
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      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:03 		Michael Vick
 
143harry
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      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:04 		rich gannon baby...go raiders
 
144Chris
      ID: 7655922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:04 		WE NEED TO MOVE WITH ALACRATY (spelling).

- Boomer (MNF 2000)
 
145j o s h
      ID: 2863710
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:04 		mccallister
 
146doc
      ID: 47612923
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:04 		????
could be a great long term keeper pick
 
147Pete
      ID: 22655922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:04 		How does the DS drafting go kev? Do you have to designate (DS) when you draft or can you move them there before the season starts?
 
148ryan
      ID: 441057170
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:04 		kev selects Brain Grese and Derrick Alexander
 
149harry
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      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:05 		once ds always ds...if bench player then cannot be moved to ds
 
150ryan
      ID: 441057170
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:06 		josh, mccallister is already gone
 
151ryan
      ID: 441057170
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:06 		draft your team and before the season everyone will designate their DS players
 
152mr g
      ID: 37655922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:06 		before start of the season
 
153Pete
      ID: 22655922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:07 		but is everyone just in limbo before the season starts? you didn't help harry
 
154Pete
      ID: 22655922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:07 		is emmitt smith ok Josh?
 
155j o s h
      ID: 2863710
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:07 		i had to beat up the ole lady (to get off the internet) then i had to watch rivera pitch the 9th. then i had to bend anna over
 
156 Y2J
      ID: 11222284
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:07 		I picked mcallister in the 2nd round
 
157Chris - reference
      ID: 7655922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:07 		1.Pete
2.Ryan
3.Dean
4.Chris
5.Josh
6.G
7.Doc
8.Y2J
9.Eric
10.TD
11.Harry
12.Kevin
 
158harry
      ID: 8659922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:08 		kevin johnson
 
159ryan
      ID: 441057170
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:08 		harry is up

yeah, left in limbo till season starts
 
160tduncan
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      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:08 		go ahead harry
 
161deanodog
      ID: 14657922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:08 		o.k. just draft the freaking players and figure this sheet out before 12:07 am
 
162tduncan
      ID: 423452813
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:09 		Kevan Barlow
 
163doc
      ID: 47612923
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:09 		yeah, what he said
 
164ryan
      ID: 441057170
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:10 		harry took kevin johnson

td is up
 
165harry
      ID: 8659922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:10 		lets speed it up...how many more guys?
 
166ryan
      ID: 441057170
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:11 		TD, your making up for your Stephen Davis and Willie Green picks
 
167ryan
      ID: 441057170
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:11 		let me look at erics team for a minute
 
168doc
      ID: 47612923
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:11 		kev, pic for eric
 
169ryan
      ID: 441057170
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:12 		Eric selects James Stewart
 
170doc
      ID: 47612923
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:12 		he likes keeeeekers
 
171ryan
      ID: 441057170
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:13 		y2j is up
doc, then g
 
172ryan
      ID: 441057170
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:13 		I might have to jet after my next 2 picks (kev)
 
173 Y2J
      ID: 11222284
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:14 		Derrick Alexander
 
174j o s h
      ID: 2863710
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:14 		emmitt smith?!

my own fault
 
175Pete
      ID: 22655922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:14 		why is that ryan?
 
176tduncan
      ID: 423452813
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:14 		lets make an affort to get to 10 rounds tonight... c'mon
 
177ryan
      ID: 441057170
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:15 		I think once we get through our 8th round, we should slow it down.

Just check here often. We have a lot of time to get this done.
 
178Pete
      ID: 22655922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:15 		alexander is gone
 
179ryan
      ID: 441057170
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:15 		Y2J, I already have Alexander (kev)

Im at Ryans hou7se
 
180harry
      ID: 8659922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:16 		after my next 2....i am going to drive home...so wait 4 me...take me 25 min
 
181ryan
      ID: 441057170
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:16 		josh, I apologize. I thought you would want him over Bennett. Blame me if anyone (kev)

actually, blame TD
 
182 Y2J
      ID: 11222284
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:16 		Marcus Pollard
 
183ryan
      ID: 441057170
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:16 		Y2J goes on the 2 minute clock
 
184change name Kev
      ID: 22655922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:17 		I'm pretty sure you can just change your name
 
185kev
      ID: 441057170
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:18 		but then he has to change it back

remember, im hitting the bong. my memory is leaving.
 
186kev
      ID: 441057170
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:19 		doc is up, then g
 
187doc
      ID: 47612923
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:19 		bubba franks
 
188kev
      ID: 441057170
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:20 		nice pick
 
189kev
      ID: 441057170
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:21 		g is up

then JOSH
 
190j o s h
      ID: 2863710
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:21 		c'mon ggggggggggggggggggggggggzzzzzzzzzzzzz
 
191harry
      ID: 8659922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:22 		cmon captain morgan
 
192mr g
      ID: 37655922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:22 		shannon sharpe
 
193j o s h
      ID: 2863710
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:22 		Charlie Garner
 
194kev
      ID: 441057170
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:23 		Christina, then Dean, then Ryan
 
195doc
      ID: 47612923
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:24 		lets go, we need to get 3 more rounds in by 1:00
 
196Chris
      ID: 7655922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:25 		The Stealers.
 
197kev
      ID: 441057170
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:25 		Im not gonna make it back to my pick....

Im gonna leave Ryan a que for me, and TD can pick for Eric, as I trust his stephen davis like judgement.

peace out.
 
198Chris
      ID: 7655922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:25 		known in some circles at the "Steelers".

(i leave town in 6 hours, gimmie a break)
 
199deanodog
      ID: 14657922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:26 		Nice pick Chris

Rod Gardner w/da new and improved Skins/Spurrier aerial attack :
 
200harry
      ID: 8659922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:26 		lol
 
201Pete
      ID: 22655922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:27 		Ryan then me
 
202doc
      ID: 47612923
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:27 		ryan, pete, pete, ryan
 
203Ryan
      ID: 441057170
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:27 		Warrick Dunn
 
204Chris
      ID: 7655922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:27 		Nice on Gardner too.

Gotta like baltimore, cincy, and cleveland as divisional offense opponents.
 
205Ryan
      ID: 441057170
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:29 		Petie, its time to draftie
 
206Pete
      ID: 22655922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:29 		McCardell
 
207harry
      ID: 8659922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:29 		good job so far guys....lets keep it moving
 
208Ryan
      ID: 441057170
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:30 		one more draftie petie
 
209Pete
      ID: 22655922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:31 		DeShaun Foster
 
210Ryan
      ID: 441057170
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:31 		Marcus Robinson
 
211harry
      ID: 8659922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:32 		damn...foster was my sleeper...great pick

MOVE IT MOVE IT
 
212deanodog
      ID: 14657922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:33 		Johnnie Morton
 
213harry
      ID: 8659922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:33 		dean, chris, josh...
 
214harry
      ID: 8659922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:33 		morton was taken already
 
215Pete
      ID: 22655922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:34 		morton went to Y2J
 
216deanodog
      ID: 14657922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:35 		t.j. Duckett
 
217Chris
      ID: 7655922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:35 		marty booker
 
218doc
      ID: 47612923
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:36 		very good pick
 
219harry
      ID: 8659922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:36 		josh, g, doc, eric
 
220j o s h
      ID: 2863710
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:37 		troy brown
 
221Pete
      ID: 22655922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:37 		brown went to dean
 
222harry
      ID: 8659922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:38 		taken already
 
223j o s h
      ID: 2863710
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:38 		wesley walls
 
224harry
      ID: 8659922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:39 		G, doc, eric...
 
225j o s h
      ID: 2863710
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:39 		all-star game ends in a tie....no mvp
 
226harry
      ID: 8659922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:40 		GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG...
 
227mr g
      ID: 37655922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:40 		donte stallworth
 
228Pete
      ID: 22655922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:40 		no mvp?
 
229 Y2J
      ID: 11222284
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:40 		I'm between doc and eric
 
230Ryan
      ID: 441057170
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:41 		1.Pete
2.Ryan
3.Dean
4.Chris
5.Josh
6.G
7.Doc
8.Y2J
9.Eric
10.TD
11.Harry
12.Kevin
again for reference
 
231doc
      ID: 47612923
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:42 		quadry ismail
 
233harry
      ID: 8659922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:42 		doc is up
 
234harry
      ID: 8659922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:43 		y2j...
 
235Pete
      ID: 22655922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:43 		ismail to doc....next to Y2J
 
236 Y2J
      ID: 11222284
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:44 		Muhsin Muhammad
 
237harry
      ID: 8659922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:45 		eric, td, harry....
 
238Pete
      ID: 22655922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:46 		who's picking for eric?
 
239tduncan
      ID: 423452813
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:46 		Eric get Amani Toomer
 
240Ryan
      ID: 441057170
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:46 		i think we should give him either the next best wr, te, k or defense...any suggestions?
 
241Ryan
      ID: 441057170
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:46 		good pick for eric, td
 
242Pete
      ID: 22655922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:47 		i'd give him toomer
 
243tduncan
      ID: 423452813
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:47 		Altough I absolutly hate the guy, there aren't many feature backs in the 7th round.

Thomas Jones.
 
244harry
      ID: 8659922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:47 		amani is a good pick
 
245deanodog
      ID: 14657922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:47 		toomer it is
 
246tduncan
      ID: 423452813
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:49 		harry your up
 
247Ryan
      ID: 441057170
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:49 		harry your up
 
248Pete
      ID: 22655922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:50 		harry then Ryan picks for kev

I wonder what will be first, the K run or the D run
 
249harry
      ID: 8659922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:50 		dominic rhodes
 
250Ryan
      ID: 441057170
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:51 		kev wants Roy Williams WR from Texas University
and Joey Galloway
 
251Pete
      ID: 22655922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:52 		isn't roy williams a safety?
 
252harry
      ID: 8659922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:53 		Drew Bledsoe...

I am going home guys....be back in 25 min..dont pick for me...thanks
 
253Ryan
      ID: 441057170
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:53 		he told me he is a wr...i dont' know anything about the guy
 
254tduncan
      ID: 423452813
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:53 		ryan what is kev's other pick?
 
255mr g
      ID: 37655922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:54 		r we picking college players
 
256Ryan
      ID: 441057170
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:54 		Galloway and Roy Williams
 
257Ryan
      ID: 441057170
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:55 		you can if you want, i wouldn't recommend it, no one knows how long this keeper league will actually last
 
258Pete
      ID: 22655922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:55 		williams was drafted by dallas.

Fine, Kev gets williams...i think you guys have been smoking a bit too much of the ol bong tonight
 
259Pete
      ID: 22655922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:56 		TD, eric, Y2J
 
260j o s h
      ID: 2863710
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:57 		whos picking for eric?
 
261Pete
      ID: 22655922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:58 		i think we all are
 
262tduncan
      ID: 423452813
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:58 		WE ARE ABSOLUTLY NOT PICKING COLLEGE PLAYEERS!!!

those players will be availible in later drafts... thats the whole point.

Anyway, Roy Williams is a rookie safety, picked by the Dallas Cowboys. Ryan is there anyone else on kev's que?
 
263j o s h
      ID: 2863710
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:59 		ok god
 
264Ryan
      ID: 441057170
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:59 		kev told me roy williams was a wr for texas university and he said it wasn't against the rules to pick, but next on his queue is Peerless Price
 
265Chris
      ID: 7655922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:59 		TD...just pick
 
266deanodog
      ID: 14657922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 00:59 		Eric needs a D I nominate St. louis
 
267Pete
      ID: 22655922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:01 		maybe it is a different roy williams...kev gets roy williams....td, pick
 
268j o s h
      ID: 2863710
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:01 		i nominate the texans- that'll make him a homer;)
 
269deanodog
      ID: 14657922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:02 		That's why they have free agents to fix our fkups
 
270Pete
      ID: 22655922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:02 		yes, roy williams was a receiver at texas....obviously he's for the DS....perfectly legitimate pick
 
271tduncan
      ID: 423452813
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:03 		Lavernaus Coles
 
272Pete
      ID: 22655922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:03 		Go TD
 
273deanodog
      ID: 14657922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:03 		o.k. eric has st louis, 2nd on the power rankings.....don't ask me why
 
274Ryan
      ID: 441057170
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:03 		eric's pick??
 
275Ryan
      ID: 441057170
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:04 		st louis, good with me, any objections?
 
276Chris
      ID: 7655922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:04 		eric got the goats.

y2j, doc, g
 
277 Y2J
      ID: 11222284
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:05 		Mike Vanderjagt
and I'm gone, gotta go to work early in the a.m. pick me a d and after that I don't care
 
278j o s h
      ID: 2863710
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:07 		Y2J- stop doing that to the hogs and pick faster, do you have any idea how late it is here on the west coast?????
 
279doc
      ID: 47612923
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:07 		jerry rice
 
280Ryan
      ID: 441057170
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:07 		rice has been taken
 
281Pete
      ID: 22655922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:08 		rice is taken
 
282deanodog
      ID: 14657922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:09 		don't know who took em but he's taken
 
283doc
      ID: 47612923
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:12 		sorry,
donald hayes
 
284deanodog
      ID: 14657922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:13 		maybe we need to pick this up later......meetings early tomorrow
 
285Pete
      ID: 22655922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:13 		eric has rice

G, Josh, Chris
 
286Ryan
      ID: 441057170
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:13 		lets just try to finish this round and then put it on slow draft and just pick as you can
 
287j o s h
      ID: 2863710
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:13 		it's hard to draft when anna is doing that
 
288mr g
      ID: 37655922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:14 		hines ward
 
289Pete
      ID: 22655922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:14 		finish round 8?
 
290j o s h
      ID: 2863710
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:14 		bears
 
291deanodog
      ID: 14657922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:15 		May be able to get thru the next 2 pics.......come on
 
292Pete
      ID: 22655922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:15 		g1 josh.....dean, ryan, pete x 2
 
293Ryan
      ID: 441057170
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:15 		i'm game to go as long as we need tonight but people are starting to drop out so maybe we should finish this round and slowly make our way through other rounds till we can meet up again
 
294Pete
      ID: 22655922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:16 		sorry...chris, dean, ryan, pete
 
295Ryan
      ID: 441057170
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:16 		chris is up
 
296doc
      ID: 47612923
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:18 		lets finish this round
 
297Chris - HAPPY
      ID: 7655922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:18 		Mike effing Alstott

homer my arse......pittman pick is completely insured, and if anyone else sees another back left who put up 10 TDs in his last 10 games, let me know.

Chuckie'll run it. He always does.

Chris is very happy.

I'm out of town tomorrow through Saturday btw....hurts the slow draft.
 
298deanodog
      ID: 14657922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:20 		Tampa D
 
299Ryan
      ID: 441057170
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:20 		eagles
 
300Pete
      ID: 22655922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:21 		trung canidate
 
301j o s h
      ID: 2863710
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:21 		i'd like to thank kev pete and ryan for somehow keeping track of s.......and keeping this running smoothly (sort of)


td- shut up and play
 
302Ryan
      ID: 441057170
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:23 		are we stopping there or are we gonna try for another round?
 
303tduncan
      ID: 423452813
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:23 		I don't know what kev is thinking, but this Roy Williams dude is still in college.

This is not right. The DS is a place to hold young NFL players, NOT COLLEGE PLAYERS. This is just not fair.
 
304Pete
      ID: 22655922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:23 		do we keep on going?

Does anyone object?
 
305doc
      ID: 47612923
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:23 		great pic for the future pete
 
306Chris - HAPPY
      ID: 7655922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:25 		we can at least get to my next pick - as all 3 needed are here.....after that, who knows.
 
307Pete
      ID: 22655922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:25 		why isn't taking college guys fair? you think he's getting an advantage taking some WR from texas over the #1 pick in this year's draft for his DS?
 
308deanodog
      ID: 14657922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:25 		I can make 1 more pic
 
309j o s h
      ID: 2863710
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:25 		keep it going

and how does that pick put YOU at a disadvantage td?
 
310doc
      ID: 47612923
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:25 		good night, lets end this
 
311Ryan
      ID: 441057170
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:26 		i could go another round

kev is gone so you will have to talk to him later...but i dont see why your complaining he has a player that is in college next year and who knows where he will go or how much he will play in the nfl anyways
 
312Pete
      ID: 22655922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:26 		you are out of your mind TD...kev wasted a pick and you're complaining?
 
313Pete
      ID: 22655922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:27 		ok, i'll take chamberlain.......ryan, dean, chris, josh, doc to follow
 
314Ryan
      ID: 441057170
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:28 		Germane Crowell
 
315deanodog
      ID: 14657922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:28 		go pete and ryan, let me get this last pic out of the way
 
316Pete
      ID: 22655922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:28 		Thanks doc...i needed trung mostly for insurance so i didn't get screwed if faulk went down
 
317deanodog
      ID: 14657922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:29 		peerless price.......good nite
 
318tduncan
      ID: 423452813
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:29 		BECAUSE I'M HERE TO PLAY FANTASY NFL FOOTBALL.

NOT FUKING FANTASY COLLEGE FOOTBALL.

I don't know, and doesn't want to know anything about college football, and it's not fair that somebody who do can get all the good player out of college before I even know them.
 
319Pete
      ID: 22655922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:31 		night dean.....trust me TD, he's not getting an advantage.
 
320Pete
      ID: 22655922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:31 		chris josh g
 
321Ryan
      ID: 441057170
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:31 		yeah td, definitly shouldn't be complaining about this

have u heard of him pete? is he any good?
 
322Chris - keeeeker
      ID: 7655922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:31 		Marteeeeeeeeeeeen Grammatica.

And with the keeker....i'm gone.
 
323j o s h
      ID: 2863710
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:32 		Donald Driver
 
324Pete
      ID: 22655922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:33 		haven't heard about him....had good #'s last year. But even if he's #1 in next year's draft, he's still a year behind carr.
 
325mr g
      ID: 37655922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:34 		james allen
 
326Harry
      ID: 241018222
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:35 		i am home...did i miss my pick? lets keep going
 
327Ryan
      ID: 441057170
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:36 		is doc still around?
 
328tduncan
      ID: 423452813
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:36 		Thats besides the fact that the whole point of the keeper league is that the bad teams get the 1st picks in later drafts, so they can take the good rookies. It's stupid that rookies will be allready owned by someone, before they are in the NFL.

It's just stupid that 2 years from now, kev will be the league champion, but still he will get all the good rookies because he picked them when they were freshamns in college and nobody knew who they are.
 
329Pete
      ID: 22655922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:37 		Doc
Y2J
Eric
TD
Harry
 
330Pete
      ID: 22655922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:37 		Yah TD, we're all chomping at the bit to get the good rookies this year. Get a clue man.
 
331Pete
      ID: 22655922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:38 		don't know about doc
maybe not
 
332Ryan
      ID: 441057170
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:38 		TD you only keep 3 players (i think), think of all the good players that will be in the draft, it isn't just the rookies that we will be picking from
 
333j o s h
      ID: 2863710
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:39 		to post #328

ROFLMAO at a 9 year old punk...


say good night dick - good night dick
 
334Ryan
      ID: 441057170
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:41 		so if doc isn't here are we gonna call it a night and pick up when we can?
 
335Pete
      ID: 22655922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:41 		seriously, how old are you TD?
 
336j o s h
      ID: 2863710
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:42 		lets make a pick for him- i nominate jay fiedler;)
 
337Pete
      ID: 22655922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:42 		looks like it....i figure doc has left....night all.......make picks when you can, and we'll try to get another time i guess? that was only 8/21 rounds so........
 
338tduncan
      ID: 423452813
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:44 		it's 9am, and I haven't slept all night.

I'm out here, but this thing need to be worked out. Randy Moss scored 17 TDs his rookie year. Tomlinson was a top 10 back. I can see it allready... next year, the guy with the worst record will want to pick the next randy moss to help his team, but then someone will come and say that he allready picked this guy 2 years ago, when he was a junior. just stupid.
 
339Ryan
      ID: 441057170
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:44 		yeah, try to check as often as you can and maybe we can get through this in a week or so, then we can have lots of time to make trades before the season...

have a good night all

as TD heads to scout high school players for the next few rounds..just so we don't steal them from him
 
340Harry
      ID: 241018222
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:45 		can't draft rookies...just doesn't make sense...
keep picking yo
 
341j o s h
      ID: 2863710
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:46 		and all my sleepers are still available...

someone post on chris's board when the sloooooow draft restarts.

you try to get a good nights sleep td
 
342Ryan
      ID: 441057170
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:46 		we can't pick without doc here, so we are basically stuck till he gets on tomorrow
 
343Harry
      ID: 241018222
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:47 		can someone re-write everybody's rosters later...and tell us where we left off...i still am lacking at several positions
 
344Pete
      ID: 22655922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:50 		I have all the rosters in an excel file.......i'll link it
 
345j o s h
      ID: 2863710
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:52 		if i'm not there que up Justin for me. He's going to be a senior wide reciever this year and was all conference honorable mention last year.

j/k- i'll be there to pick him myself

 
346Pete
      ID: 22655922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 01:52 		QB RB RB WR WR WR TE K D Bench Bench
Pete Favre Faulk T. Davis R. Smith McCaffrey McCardell Chamberlain Foster Canidate
Ryan Brooks Alexander J. Lewis Boston Burress M. Robinson Dunn Crowell
Dean Garcia A. Green A. Smith T. Brown Gardner Price Barber Duckett
Chris Warner F. Taylor Pittman Chambers D. Jackson Booker M. Gramatica Steelers Alstott
Josh Manning Hearst E. Smith Holt Moulds Driver Walls Bears Garner
G McNabb R. Williams Staley Harrison Mason Stallworth Sharpe Hines Ward J. Allen
Doc Green C. Martin Bettis Owens Q. Ismail Hayes Franks Bennett
Y2J McNair James McAllister Glenn Morton Muhammed Pollard Vanderjagt
Eric Culpepper George Henry Horn Rice Toomer Rams J. Stewart
td Vick S. Davis W. Green Moss Key. Johnson Coles Barlow T. Jones
Harry Gannon Holmes Tomlinson J. Smith Tim Brown Kev. Johnson Rhodes Bledsoe
Kev Griese Dillon A. Thomas Bruce Alexander Galloway Gonzalez Roy Williams (texas)
 
347kev
      ID: 11438306
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 05:52 		Im back home. And really, what is the point of having a developmental squad if I cant pick players who are going to develop?

TD, you made the basic rules for the DS that we are still going with. If you didnt want college players taken, YOU SHOULD HAVE WRITTEN THAT!

No where does it say I wasnt able to take him. I really wish I hadnt now- I was positive eric, dean, or doc would be on the college players. Thats why I took him when I did. No where did I break a rule. Honestly, your just mad because I thought of it, and you didnt.

Pete, it was a gamble pick. If he breaks a leg next year, then yeah, I throw him off my team, and go from scratch with him. But if does what most think he will, and is the #1 pick in next year, and has a good season, then I look smart. That's what gambling is about- you win some, and lose some, and you take calculated risks, where the odds are in your favor. Roy Williams has Moss type skills. Ill take that risk

TD. I dont know a ton of US college football either. Hell, I live in Canada. I thought of the strategy, and then researched some players, and the guy I decided on was Roy Williams of Texas.
 
348mr g
      ID: 25624104
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 06:27 		good morning, this is why i wanted the rules nailed down and clear about the DS, also kev if u where planing on taking a college player for your DS don't you think it might wise clearing this up before the draft, owell i'm sure i will know all the DS rule in a year or 12.
 
349mr g
      ID: 25624104
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 06:44 		also after u print the rules for the DS at the end is (this still needs a bit of clearing up) ,does not telling us that we can draft college player clear it up, so it not really a strategy or is it, not!!! owell i guess we can draft college players now being king kev has made it clear we can, seems a little underhand to me and not like a strategy
 
350kev
      ID: 11438306
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 06:46 		Sorry G, I forgot I had to verify my strategy with you before hand.

You didnt tell us you planned on taking Ricky. Very underhanded of you!
 
351mr g
      ID: 25624104
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 07:02 		"strategy" means not clearing up the rule, wright ok i got it,like i really give a u know what, if we can draft college players or not, still very underhanded, i'm not going to fight it, but glad to know now we can now draft college players, and u do know i'm wright as does the rest of the group, it does not happen much but u know it to be true
 
352deanodog
      ID: 14657922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 07:09 		You guys left the Tampa D off my list

If someone wants to gamble and take a shot at a college player........so be it. Big freaking deal. It's a keeper league and you can only keep 3 players.
 
353mr g
      ID: 25624104
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 07:09 		ricky nfl player rules clear
roy not nfl player rules not clear
DS rules are being cleared up durning draft
is this how u plan on clearing up rules
sad i did expect too must i guess
 
354deanodog
      ID: 14657922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 07:14 		I'm all over the college player, just way to early to pick one in my opinion.
 
355mr g
      ID: 25624104
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 07:16 		i don't have a problem with us drafting college players the only problem is when kev wright in the rule following the DS he put in (this still needs abit of clearing up) then thinks he has some kind of strategy by drafting a college player, would think he would have a little more sence then that, and still the DS is not clear, it's just a matter of having the rules
 
356mr g
      ID: 25624104
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 07:21 		you can keep 3 players plus your DS player 3, so it's 6
 
357tduncan
      ID: 423452813
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 07:28 		I might have gone a bit too far last night, I was kind of pissed of, and very tired. sorry about that.

But, my opinion hasn't change. Kev, it's not fair that you can pick a football player, before he is even on an NFL team. The point of rookies is that they are avaibible in later years drafts.

About the DS... C'mon... it suppposed to hold young NFL talent, guys you think has potential to be great, but won't have playing time this year. Like maybe Dashuan Foster and TJ Ducket this year. Or Roberty Ferguson last year, stuff like that.

I will say it again... drafting players out of college, before they have been through the NFL draft, is just not right. But whatever you guys decide.
 
358kev
      ID: 11438306
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 07:32 		How is it not right? You incorporated the idea of a Developmental Squad TD (yes G, it was TD that had the idea, not me, I just ironed out the details)

The rules stated that a player could be on your DS with less than 3 years NFL experience. Roy Williams fits that description. Really, there isnt a lot to debate about. I made a legit pick. It's a DS player.

Pete- I personally think Roy Williams will be a better pick than David Carr in 2 years. That is why I made the choice.
 
359tduncan
      ID: 423452813
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 07:46 		C'mon... NFL players with less then 3 years experience... And from what I see from other posts... you are the only one who thought we can draft college players...
 
360kev
      ID: 11438306
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 07:47 		No TD- Im the only one that thought of drafting college players- there is a big difference.

Find me the rule I broke, and I will gladly recede the pick.
 
361tduncan
      ID: 423452813
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 07:59 		so you are gonna put thechnicaliy on me... OK....

Just tell me something... are we allowed to pick up college players of waivers? put them on the active roster?

If the question for these questions are yes, we just screwed up maybe the most important thing in a keeper league, wich is following rookies, and knowing when to draft them in later years drafts. Just think about it... a week before the season ends, someone will relaese 3 old guys, pick up the 3 hot college prospects, who anounced they are going to the draft, and walla... he goy Green, Duckett and Foster with no option to give them to the team that really needs them. That stinks. And we are allwed to keep up to 7 players, 10 if you count the DS, so yes, rookies are supposed to be the focal point of later years drafts.
 
362tduncan
      ID: 423452813
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 08:40 		Kev how about this for compromise offer:

We will add to each team a college squad, a place for a team to hold 1 single college player, selected in this draft. There is no way to change that player, untill he gets to the NFL. Then the team can bump him to the active roster or the regular DS. This will obviously add anothr round to the draft. When the player makes him eligible to the NFL draft, the team that has him will pick a college player to replace him in that year's draft.

This will add the college aspect, only without the possible of cheating that I can see happening if we don't do something.

What do you think?
 
363doc
      ID: 54628109
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 09:29 		if you go by the law of the land, then - in reality , if a college player were to sign he would have to enter the nfl immediately....not so in this case.

Add to that the potential to keep 10 players year to year (3 auto, 4 in liu of picks, 3 ds) then this could be an interesting way of creating your own farm system....


at any rate, roy williams plays for texas who plays in an overrated conference with no skill guys at a non consistent point producing position.... i can think of 20 college players this year i'd take before him.

i don't care which way we go here..
 
364DEANODOG
      ID: 8658109
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 10:02 		And Duckett will not make my DS squad......he may start on the bench but he'll see plenty of playing time as the season progress

Damn I'm hung over
 
365DEANODOG
      ID: 8658109
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 10:16 		At the end of this round let's start another thread.........this one is to long
 
366Pete
      ID: 22655922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 10:33 		In my basketball, hockey, and baseball keeper leagues, any DS guy you sign HAS to be in college (minors). TD, if you think it's so great to have college guys, just spend your next 3 picks getting them. Having a 4th (college only) DS spot is absolutely retarded.

TD, please drop it. Kev has exactly one college player. There is much time for you to grab college guys. So, if you think it's an advantage, take the advantage.

Seriously TD, enough already.

 
367Pete
      ID: 22655922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 10:36 		I suggest that we move all discussion and drafting back to Chris' boards at swirve as they are more organizing. Y2J is up next
 
368Pete
      ID: 7661011
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 11:06 		That board is down again....doc took Miami D, Y2J, Eric, TD.

BTW, list in Post #346 is missing Ryan - Eagles D, Dean - Bucs D, and now Doc - Miami D
 
369g
      ID: 56321012
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 12:46 		it will be awhile before i get back, might get rained out, how's this i don't care either way but only one college player on your DS,
 
370Pete
      ID: 7661011
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 13:49 		no, you can have 3 if you want...that makes Zero sense?
 
371harry
      ID: 8659922
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 13:57 		are we still picking? i will check every now and then, I am at work...Please dont pick for me...
You guys can settle the rookie stuff....I personally dont think he should have been drafted...It wasn't in the rules plus no one expected it. Tell me when I am up...How many more picks do we have?
 
372Pete
      ID: 7661011
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 14:01 		harry...it wasn't against the rules. really...what is the big deal?
We are picking on Chris' board right now...it is Y2J's pick, then eric, then td, then you
 
373kev
      ID: 11438306
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 14:15 		I really didnt think I was doing anything wrong, and the reason I took them that early is I was sure someone else was on the same strategy. To me, the DS was like a prospects draft. Take young guys that have a chance to move into your lineup at a future time....

And TD, at the end of the year, you want to drop your DS players or old farts for college players, go for it. Fact is, you can only still hold 3 DS players. If you dont have good DS players, thats your choice.

Now that I see everyone else wasnt going the college route, I agree that Roy Williams was early, but doc, I dont doubt his skill level. You cant teach his size. He will be a fine NFLer.
 
374Pete
      ID: 7661011
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 14:19 		can we please drop this?

TD, HARRY, G.....the only way you can possibly be upset is if you had Roy Williams as your #1 College guy...a guy you want on your team in future years at all cost. Even then, kev scooped him up earlier than you would have. Chances are that you hadn't even heard of him. Now college or no college is irrelevant, because the rules are the same for everyone...it's pretty much a non-issue.
 
375kev
      ID: 11438306
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 14:20 		Pete- exactly...
 
376Pete
      ID: 7661011
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 14:32 		i don't think it's recorded here, but Doc took Miami D, Y2J is up
 
377kev
      ID: 11438306
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 14:58 		Pete, and everyone

There is another thread for the slow part of the draft (part 2).

And if you are going on vacation, please, email me, and leave me a que of at least 24 players, so we can still try and keep this at a pace that wont take 3 months.
 
378j o s h
      ID: 2863710
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 15:46 		if i had made that pick kev, i would of offered to trade him to the dumbass for his next pick by now just to get his panties out of the wad they're in and get things moving again
 
379doc
      ID: 236521010
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 17:39 		thanks for the diplomacy josh, i sure wish you'd come down here to bugland and give beano reno a run in the primary........

3 college players for ds is a great idea. adds an extra element. i think the jury is out on williams, can't question his natural abilities but you can question his production against quality opponents....

and my point being, why spend your first ds pick on a w.r. anyway? thats the deepest position in the nfl. your first 2 picks should be on rb's - if not all 3.....
 
380kev
      ID: 11438306
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 17:42 		I think Im alright with Dillion and ATrain for a couple years. Im also happy with Griese as my QB if he quits drinking. My WR's are where I need a guy who could blossom into a great WR. Roy Williams could be that WR.
 
381doc
      ID: 236521010
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 19:26 		perhaps,
but there are several good/potentially great rcvr's with nfl experience. how many recievers come out of college and light up the nfl in their first or second season?

beyond moss, none in recent memory (although chris chambers had a very good year last year).

boston has entered the elite in his third year, t owens took 4 years, marvin harrison took 3, etc...

great rb's, however can make an immediate impact. recent examples, faulk, edge, tomlinson, dillon, martin, a thomas, george, emmitt, j lewis, etc...

mho of course
 
382doc
      ID: 236521010
      Wed, Jul 10, 2002, 19:26 		perhaps,
but there are several good/potentially great rcvr's with nfl experience. how many recievers come out of college and light up the nfl in their first or second season?

beyond moss, none in recent memory (although chris chambers had a very good year last year).

boston has entered the elite in his third year, t owens took 4 years, marvin harrison took 3, etc...

great rb's, however can make an immediate impact. recent examples, faulk, edge, tomlinson, dillon, martin, a thomas, george, emmitt, j lewis, etc...

mho of course
 
383kev
      ID: 11438306
      Thu, Jul 11, 2002, 06:18 		doc- There have been more instant impact RB's from college than WR's, but really, in next years draft, the WR options are much better for an instant impact in the NFL. What most places have as the top rated RB coming out next year is Onterrio Smith. He wont be an impact player next year.

And even if it does take an extra year for Roy Williams to be worth starting, while I wait for him to become a stud (or hope), I have the deepest NFL position to work with.

A good debate nonetheless. Always a pleasure with ya. annaisminethough.
 
384doc
      ID: 236521010
      Thu, Jul 11, 2002, 11:05 		inyerdreamsbuddy...
 
385j o s h
      ID: 15641111
      Thu, Jul 11, 2002, 11:11 		doc knows where she is (i mean who she's with) and not even the atfciafbiorthep.i.g can find her. Cause that means they'd find me:)