| Posted by: APerfect10
- Leader [535572315] Tue, Sep 02, 2003, 13:51
2003 Offseason Discussion
Official League Website
2003 Players List download in MS Excel XP (updated daily)
2003 Draft Discussion I
2003 Draft Discussion II
2003 Draft Thread I (Rounds 1 - 5)
2003 Draft Thread II (Rounds 6 - 10)
2003 Draft Thread III (Rounds 11 - 15)
2003 Draft Thread IV (Rounds 16 - 23)
**I have archived last years discussion threads. If you need access to them, please contact me.
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| 1 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 535572315 Tue, Sep 02, 2003, 13:53
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Notes:
- Please submit waiver claims via the website. Submissions via email will not be honored. - Lineup submission for week 1 is by the start of the first game, 9pm EST on Thursday. - Waiver's this first week will run from noon EST 9/2 - 9am EST 9/3 (36 hours prior to first kickoff)
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| 2 | Bags @ work
ID: 87482816 Tue, Sep 02, 2003, 18:26
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AP10 is there a way that our waiver requests can not be posted. I just don't think that everyone should be able to see who you are trying to pick up. Maybe I did something wrong with the way I claimed people off of waivers.
Thanks for your help the site looks great.
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| 3 | Bags @ work
ID: 87482816 Tue, Sep 02, 2003, 18:27
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One other thing, how do we take a player off of our waiver list? I would like to take one off and add another.
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| 4 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 535572315 Tue, Sep 02, 2003, 18:42
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Our league has operated on open waiver requests. If people would like this changed that is fine by me, but that is how it had been done.
Email me with your details...
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| 5 | Doug Sustainer
ID: 4859218 Tue, Sep 02, 2003, 20:07
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I am on vacation with limited web access. Please drop James Stewart, and pick up A Olandis Gary B Thomas Jones C Shawn Bryson. Thank you.
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| 6 | wiggs Donor
ID: 27830218 Tue, Sep 02, 2003, 20:59
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i would like to put in my claim for gary too and drop lamar smith.
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| 7 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 535572315 Tue, Sep 02, 2003, 21:18
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Heh...the whole league wants to claim Gary...
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| 8 | beebop
ID: 2682424 Tue, Sep 02, 2003, 21:21
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Knew i shoulda taken him with my last pick ;)
Oh well.
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| 9 | Nerfherders
ID: 308512415 Wed, Sep 03, 2003, 11:11
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Why? I thought Gary was with Buffalo? Something wrong with Henry?
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| 10 | IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO
ID: 221441621 Wed, Sep 03, 2003, 12:29
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gary is now replacing the injured stewart in detroit, traded for an undisclosed draft pick.
anyway, guys, what's wrong with mike? we're 48 hours away from the start of the season and someone still has to complete his team? am i missing something?
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| 11 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 535572315 Wed, Sep 03, 2003, 14:26
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Who knows where Mike is...
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| 12 | dgrooves
ID: 444581317 Wed, Sep 03, 2003, 19:17
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Derek, whats the word on the prizes? How will the payouts work?
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| 13 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 535572315 Wed, Sep 03, 2003, 20:43
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Shoot, good question that I've been meaning to answer...
$6 x 10 teams = $60 to work with.
Suggestions... $6 Regular season winner $6 Third Prize Tourn. $18 Second Place Tourn. $30 Overall winner
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| 14 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 535572315 Wed, Sep 03, 2003, 20:44
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Also, I only counted 10 teams because I have yet to receive money from beebop/LAZIO.
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| 16 | IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO
ID: 221441621 Thu, Sep 04, 2003, 09:17
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ap 10 my problem is that to send you 10 bucks i've to pay a fixed fee of another 10 bucks. is it the same if i send you euros? if it's not the same i'll work to find another way but it should take time.....i assure you that i'm in for the prizes, it's just a fact of finding the way to send the money. anyway, what if mike doesn't show up?
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| 18 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 535572315 Thu, Sep 04, 2003, 09:33
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wiggs, the waiver deadline has passed since we need 36 hours for processing. Games start at 9pm tonight therefore the waiver deadline ended Wednesday morning at 9am. You will need to wait until the waiver period starts again which will be Monday night at 11:59:59pm.
Attention: I will NOT accept transactions via email or this site, please submit your transactions via the league website. If you are having a problem and/or need to clarify feel free to email me. Also, if you want to put in 5 claims to make sure you get one, please enter them in the site according to their priority. First entered = #1 priority. Last entered = lowest priority.
Thank you...
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| 19 | wiggs Donor
ID: 27830218 Thu, Sep 04, 2003, 09:38
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derek, i know i cant get him for this week, but i just thought i would throw it out there so i would hopefully get him next week.
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| 20 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 535572315 Thu, Sep 04, 2003, 09:47
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wiggs, you can enter it in the site now so you dont forget. However, it will not be processed until noon on Wednesday...
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| 21 | Doug Sustainer
ID: 4859218 Thu, Sep 04, 2003, 19:01
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I am unable to access email or use the site (dunno why, I keep getting errors... I think the computer I have access to has a virus that prevents javascript or forms or something like that). So, this is my only option for waiver claims until Sept. 16th. I hope you will allow this exemption and please process the claims I posted back on Tuesday (post #5). Thank you.
If anyone is curious where I'm at, I'm in the wilderness in and around Lake Tahoe... working at the following event: www.subaruprimalquest.com
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| 22 | dgrooves
ID: 444581317 Thu, Sep 04, 2003, 19:03
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Derek, could you explain what you mean by Second Place Tourn and Third Prize Tourn?
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| 23 | beebop
ID: 2682424 Thu, Sep 04, 2003, 19:20
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I think its the different playoff parts at the end of the season, like toilet bowl, etc. Correct me if im wrong, im just making a guess.
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| 24 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 535572315 Thu, Sep 04, 2003, 19:21
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Doug, I processed your claim. Have you been able to set your lineup? If not, email me your starters...
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| 25 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 535572315 Thu, Sep 04, 2003, 19:30
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dgrooves, at the end of the season there are three different bowls. Now that I think about it more, I think I should revise that since the regular season winner will either finish 1st or 2nd in tourney/bowls. So maybe there shouldnt be a regular season prize since they will already claim some money.
How about this...
1st overall (winner of 1st & 2nd reg. season)=$24 2nd overall (loser to 1st & 2nd reg. season)=$12 3rd overall (winner of 3rd & 4th reg. season)=$12 4th overall (loser of 3rd & 4th reg. season)=$6 5th overall (winner of 5th & 6th reg. season)=$6
My thinking behind as many teams as possible involved in the money (atleast getting their $$ back) Obviously this cuts into the top prize, but since our money pool isnt that large, you cant expect much. While the 2nd ovr & 3rd ovr get the same cash is that the 2nd ovr could actually win $24, while 3rd's max is $12. The same logic applies to the payouts for #4 & #5...
(This money does not include beebop or LAZIO). If I receive their money sometime soon (week 3 latest) I will add their money to the overall winner & runner up. Maybe a $8/$4 distribution...
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| 26 | beebop
ID: 2682424 Thu, Sep 04, 2003, 19:56
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Im sending it today, so you should get it some time next week.
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| 27 | ART of MONK
ID: 13530917 Fri, Sep 05, 2003, 11:00
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I think we need to atleast set Mike's lineup, no free wins this year. I say we just let AP10 set the lineup sunday morning if Mike is still not around.
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| 28 | ART of MONK
ID: 13530917 Fri, Sep 05, 2003, 11:07
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Also it looks like the scoring for ST is not getting updated.
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| 29 | Doug Sustainer
ID: 4859218 Fri, Sep 05, 2003, 14:00
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Fiedler Faulk Faulk Moss Booker Keyshawn Sharpe Rice Taylor Holliday Bulluck Peterson Holmes Sharper Green Wesley Janikowski Lions ST 49ers OL
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| 30 | dgrooves
ID: 444581317 Fri, Sep 05, 2003, 18:28
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Derek, I must have a mental block or something because I still dont understand what youre proposing. You said you want the prize money to be determined by the playoff results, but it seems like the regular season has something to do with the payouts: "(winner of 1st & 2nd reg. season)". I also dont understand how the 2nd overall could get $24.
Maybe we should just say the league champion (winner of the playoffs) gets $xx. The runner-up (the team who lost in the championship game) gets $xx. Winner of the 3rd place game gets $xx. Loser of the 3rd place game gets $xx. Winner of the ".500 bowl" gets $xx. etc.
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| 31 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 535572315 Sat, Sep 06, 2003, 08:51
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That is what I said. 1st overall = grand chamption. It really isnt hard to read ;)
1st overall =$24 2nd overall =$12 3rd overall =$12 4th overall =$6 5th overall =$6
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| 32 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 535572315 Sat, Sep 06, 2003, 08:52
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The 1st overall player/grand champion obviously is the winner of the game versus the (#1 reg. season/#2 reg. season teams)...that is all I was saying.
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| 33 | dgrooves
ID: 444581317 Sat, Sep 06, 2003, 09:09
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But that game doesnt have to be between the #1 and #2 regular season teams. 4 teams make that bowl, so it could be #3 vs. #4.
The comments about the regular season finishes confused me as they dont really have anything to with the payouts.
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| 34 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 535572315 Sat, Sep 06, 2003, 09:42
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oops. You are right.
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| 35 | mike
ID: 4284468 Sat, Sep 06, 2003, 09:46
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sorry all, stuff came up. I'm here though.
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| 36 | mike
ID: 58857612 Sat, Sep 06, 2003, 14:43
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k I put waiver claims in to fill my roster, guess they take effect next week.
didn't think I could submit a roster with the early game, but looks like I can. so I'm doing that (leaving out jets/skins players of course)
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| 37 | mike
ID: 58857612 Sat, Sep 06, 2003, 15:05
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ok they won't let me put a roster in. past the deadline
was there a default one for me or do I post one up in here?
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| 38 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 535572315 Sat, Sep 06, 2003, 18:14
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Since the deadline was 9pm on Thursday, you will need to post your lineup here for me to manually enter.
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| 39 | mike
ID: 58857612 Sat, Sep 06, 2003, 18:20
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k thanks, I'm on it now
brooks henry george jackson galloway ferguson crumpler strahan kearse wiley lewis bell s.barber r.barber brown wire panthers st eagles ol vanderjagt
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| 40 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 535572315 Sat, Sep 06, 2003, 18:29
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Alright, I posted your lineup.
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| 41 | Doug Sustainer
ID: 19836617 Sat, Sep 06, 2003, 18:41
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Sucks being out of touch, but I just got online for a few minutes and I noticed a potential problem with this past weeks waiver claims. It appears that Rolling Thunder processed a claim on RB O Gary, but this would have been an illegal/invalid claim as he now has 5 RBs (only 4 are allowed), thus Gary should have gone to the team with the next highest priority instead. Unless I am misunderstanding something from the website, or if his initial waiver claim on Gary included an RB drop but that drop didn't get processed, etc.
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| 42 | wiggs Donor
ID: 27830218 Sat, Sep 06, 2003, 18:44
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thanks for pointing that out doug. I really appriciate it.
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| 43 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 535572315 Sun, Sep 07, 2003, 08:31
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Doug, another member already pointed this out also. Unfortunately the software did not catch it therefore I need to reverse his claim & give Gary to the next team in line which would've been Italian Eagles. I would have added Gary to LAZIO's team prior to gametime but I need to know which player would be dropped...
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| 44 | IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO
ID: 4382253 Sun, Sep 07, 2003, 13:05
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so you need to know which player i would drop to take gary, right? mmmmmhhh who would you drop, bucklater or emmith?
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| 45 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 535572315 Sun, Sep 07, 2003, 16:36
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Yes, I need to know which RB you would drop...
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| 46 | ART of MONK
ID: 13530917 Mon, Sep 08, 2003, 10:57
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I am a little confused on when a player is claimed? I know how to claim a player on the website but how do I designate which player I want to release?
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| 47 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 535572315 Mon, Sep 08, 2003, 11:49
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First waive the player you would want to release if your pickup went through. Second, add the player you would like to claim. If your claim goes through, the player you waived will be dropped. If your claim does not go through, your "waived" player will remain on your roster.
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| 48 | dgrooves
ID: 444581317 Mon, Sep 08, 2003, 19:35
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Derek, I waived the wrong ST on my team, but I cant figure out how to undo the move. If my claim goes through, can you not waive ST-Ari? Thanks.
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| 49 | IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO
ID: 3082497 Tue, Sep 09, 2003, 08:28
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so i drop bucklater to make room for gary, is it ok?
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| 50 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 535572315 Tue, Sep 09, 2003, 11:18
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LAZIO, ok, will be processed.
All submitted transactions will be posted around 6pm EST tonight. (I have class all day!) I will also get the scores adjusted and the final scores will be posted in this forum. (I dont think I have the ability to adjust the boxscores like I did last year, however I can adjust the standings W/L & Pts, so final boxscores will be posted in this thread while the standings should be correct...
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| 51 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 535572315 Tue, Sep 09, 2003, 12:23
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All waiver claims have been posted under League News...
Final Week 1 Results will be posted tonight...
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| 52 | Bags
ID: 217221719 Tue, Sep 09, 2003, 13:12
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Quick question, is 31 the max number of player we can have on our team without any on the IR?
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| 53 | Nerfherders
ID: 43818813 Tue, Sep 09, 2003, 14:49
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OL seems to be out of whack on both teams in my game. I should have 13 and Art should have 8. It looks like we are getting 8 points for yards regardless. Please fix this, thanks.
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| 54 | Nerfherders
ID: 43818813 Tue, Sep 09, 2003, 15:10
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Okay, I looked at everyone's OL and did the scoring for each:
Klingon - see below Long Beach - 3 Art - 8 Nerf - 13 beebop - 4 Cowboys - 9 Eagles - 17 Sanwhich - 9 Ike - see below Birds - 17 Thunder - 8 Puppets - 9
Ike and Doug seem to have the same OL starting (SF - 19points). Ummm. I'm pretty sure that's WRONG.
Looking at the draft, I can see that Doug drafted SF OL, but Ike did not. I also see that beebop drafted Buffalo OL, before drafting Bears or Cowboys OL. Hmm.. better double check the end of the draft.
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| 55 | Nerfherders
ID: 43818813 Tue, Sep 09, 2003, 15:18
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Did some more checking. LOL. Okay Doug picked SF OL at 18.11. Ike picked them at 20.1, then repicked 20.1 as Raiders OL. BUT, he was given SF OL. Theres som very weird stuff at the end of the draft.
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| 56 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 535572315 Tue, Sep 09, 2003, 17:50
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Quick question, is 31 the max number of player we can have on our team without any on the IR?
Correct. 33 if you have 2 on IR.
Nerf, yes, the draft got messy as soon as I didnt have computer access. I'll have to look into that and a solution.
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| 57 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 535572315 Tue, Sep 09, 2003, 21:12
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Nerf, your OL scores include passing TD's. Last year, didnt we clarify OL scoring was only for rushing TD's. I'm pretty sure we did but somehow it didnt get clarified further in the rules...
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| 58 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 535572315 Tue, Sep 09, 2003, 21:49
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Week 1 Results Furious Midget Klingon Hordes | | Long Beach Lightning | Pts | Team | Pos | Name | | Name | Pos | Team | Pts | 17 | SF | OL | Ol-Niners,Sf | | Green,Trent | QB | KC | 12 | 16 | KC | DB | Wesley,Greg | | Williams,Ricky | RB | MIA | 20 | 21 | MIA | QB | Fiedler,Jay | | Portis,Clinton | RB | DEN | 32 | 8 | DET | LB | Holmes,Earl | | Muhammad,Muhsin | WR | CAR | 8 | 16 | OAK | PK | Janikowski,Seba | | Coles,Laveranue | WR | WAS | 15 | 12 | NE | RB | Faulk,Kevin | | Harrison,Marvin | WR | IND | 13 | 31 | KC | DL | Holliday,Vonnie | | Franks,Bubba | TE | GB | 8 | 24 | DET | ST | St-Lions,Det | | Daniels,Phillip | DL | CHI | 9 | 18 | CHI | DB | Green,Michael | | Ogunleye,Adewal | DL | MIA | 1 | 5 | DEN | TE | Sharpe,Shannon | | Freeney,Dwight | DL | IND | 2 | 10 | CHI | WR | Booker,Marty | | Williams,Roy | DB | DAL | 13 | 20 | TB | DL | Rice,Simeon | | Jammer,Quentin | DB | SD | 17 | 12 | JAC | LB | Peterson,Mike | | Minter,Mike | DB | CAR | 12 | 4 | GB | DB | Sharper,Darren | | Smith,Derek | LB | SF | 15 | 14 | TB | WR | Johnson,Keyshaw | | Diggs,Nail | LB | GB | 19 | 10 | TEN | LB | Bulluck,Keith | | Arrington,Lavar | LB | WAS | 14 | 0 | MIA | DL | Taylor,Jason | | Elam,Jason | PK | DEN | 22 | 11 | STL | RB | Faulk,Marshall | | St-Patriots,Ne | ST | NE | 30 | 30 | MIN | WR | Moss,Randy | | Ol-Rams,Stl | OL | STL | 2 | 279 | | | | | | | | 264 | | | | | | | | | | Art of Monk | | Nerfherders | Pts | Team | Pos | Name | | Name | Pos | Team | Pts | 17 | PIT | PK | Reed,Jeff | | Garcia,Jeff | QB | SF | 27 | 5 | HOU | DB | Brown,Eric | | Canidate,Trung | RB | WAS | 4 | 14 | CIN | ST | St-Bengals,Cin | | Staley,Duce | RB | PHI | 9 | 9 | NO | OL | Ol-Saints,No | | Stokes,J.j | WR | JAC | 10 | 11 | OAK | TE | Jolley,Doug | | Boston,David | WR | SD | 4 | 14 | WAS | LB | Trotter,Jeremia | | Price,Peerless | WR | ATL | 5 | 12 | BUF | QB | Bledsoe,Drew | | Miller,Billy | TE | HOU | 7 | 4 | KC | LB | Maslowski,Mike | | Kalu,Ndukwe | DL | PHI | 3 | 5 | ARI | DB | Wilson,Adrian | | Ellis,Greg | DL | DAL | 11 | 6 | CIN | DL | Smith,Justin | | Little,Leonard | DL | STL | 19 | 8 | WAS | WR | Gardner,Rod | | Thomas,Fred | DB | NO | 6 | 4 | GB | WR | Driver,Donald | | Kelly,Brian | DB | TB | 17 | 18 | SEA | LB | Brown,Chad | | Dawkins,Brian | DB | PHI | 15 | 9 | SF | DL | Carter,Andre | | Thomas,Zach | LB | MIA | 14 | 11 | BAL | RB | Lewis,Jamal | | Barton,Eric | LB | OAK | 20 | 21 | STL | DB | Archuleta,Adam | | Edwards,Donnie | LB | SD | 19 | 14 | SEA | WR | Robinson,Koren | | Carney,John | PK | NO | 7 | 20 | NO | RB | Mcallister,Deuc | | St-Jets,Nyj | ST | NYJ | 14 | 12 | CAR | DL | Peppers,Julius | | Ol-Chiefs,Kc | OL | KC | 14 | 214 | | | | | | | | 225 | | | | | | | | | | beebop | | Cowboys Homer | Pts | Team | Pos | Name | | Name | Pos | Team | Pts | 17 | TEN | QB | Mcnair,Steve | | Culpepper,Daunt | QB | MIN | 24 | 1 | PIT | RB | Bettis,Jerome | | Davis,Stephen | RB | CAR | 13 | 14 | NYG | RB | Barber,Tiki | | Taylor,Fred | RB | JAC | 17 | 1 | DEN | WR | Lelie,Ashley | | Chambers,Chris | WR | MIA | 31 | 30 | PIT | WR | Ward,Hines | | Stallworth,Dont | WR | NO | 18 | 18 | SF | WR | Owens,Terrell | | Burress,Plaxico | WR | PIT | 17 | 4 | MIA | TE | Mcmichael,Randy | | Heap,Todd | TE | BAL | 19 | 11 | OAK | DL | Coleman,Roderic | | Williams,Pat | DL | BUF | 3 | 14 | DEN | DL | Pryce,Trevor | | Wistrom,Grant | DL | STL | 3 | 4 | IND | DL | Scioli,Brad | | Smith,Aaron | DL | PIT | 9 | 11 | OAK | DB | Woodson,Rod | | Jackson,Dexter | DB | ARI | 7 | 30 | DET | DB | Bly,Dre | | Lassiter,Kwamie | DB | ARI | 18 | 8 | WAS | DB | Bailey,Champ | | Schulters,Lance | DB | TEN | 16 | 13 | BAL | LB | Boulware,Peter | | Nguyen,Dat | LB | DAL | 12 | 12 | NE | LB | Colvin,Rosevelt | | Simmons,Anthony | LB | SEA | 24 | 9 | CAR | LB | Witherspoon,Wil | | Fletcher,London | LB | BUF | 22 | 4 | MIA | PK | Mare,Olindo | | Gramatica,Marti | PK | TB | 8 | -16 | BUF | ST | St-Bills,Buf | | St-Browns,Cle | ST | CLE | 4 | 3 | CHI | OL | Ol-Bears,Chi | | Ol-Dolphins,Mia | OL | MIA | 6 | 188 | | | | | | | | 271 | | | | | | | | | | Italian Eagles | | Sandwich Town Statics | Pts | Team | Pos | Name | | Name | Pos | Team | Pts | 2 | IND | QB | Manning,Peyton | | St-Panthers,Car | ST | CAR | 26 | 8 | ARI | RB | Smith,Emmitt | | Ol-Eagles,Phi | OL | PHI | 9 | 13 | IND | RB | James,Edgerrin | | Barber,Shawn | LB | KC | 13 | 9 | MIN | WR | Bates,Dwayne | | Ferguson,Robert | WR | GB | 11 | 1 | OAK | WR | Porter,Jerry | | Vanderjagt,Mike | PK | IND | 16 | 11 | DEN | WR | Smith,Rod | | Galloway,Joey | WR | DAL | 26 | 2 | NE | TE | Fauria,Christia | | Wire,Coy | DB | BUF | 2 | 9 | TEN | DL | Carter,Kevin | | Crumpler,Alge | TE | ATL | 29 | 3 | PHI | DL | Walker,Darwin | | Wiley,Marcellus | DL | SD | 5 | 18 | NYG | DL | Holmes,Kenny | | Bell,Kendrell | LB | PIT | 15 | 12 | NE | DB | Law,Ty | | Brown,Mike | DB | CHI | 17 | 10 | PIT | DB | Scott,Chad | | Jackson,Darrell | WR | SEA | 8 | 8 | DEN | DB | Oneal,Deltha | | Kearse,Jevon | DL | TEN | 10 | 30 | DEN | LB | Gold,Ian | | George,Eddie | RB | TEN | 9 | 13 | HOU | LB | Sharper,Jamie | | Strahan,Michael | DL | NYG | 16 | 7 | PIT | LB | Gildon,Jason | | Barber,Ronde | DB | TB | 15 | 11 | STL | PK | Wilkins,Jeff | | Brooks,Aaron | QB | NO | 7 | -4 | HOU | ST | St-Texans,Hou | | Henry,Travis | RB | BUF | 23 | 17 | DEN | OL | Ol-Broncos,Den | | Lewis,Ray | LB | BAL | 16 | 180 | | | | | | | | 273 | | | | | | | | | | Ike44 | | APerfect10 | Pts | Team | Pos | Name | | Name | Pos | Team | Pts | 4 | OAK | OL | Ol-Raiders,Oak | | Brady,Tom | QB | NE | -8 | 6 | ATL | WR | Finneran,Brian | | Garner,Charlie | RB | OAK | 27 | 14 | NE | DL | Seymour,Richard | | Holmes,Priest | RB | KC | 36 | 0 | JAC | DB | Mccree,Marlon | | Taylor,Travis | WR | BAL | 14 | 8 | KC | DL | Hicks,Eric | | Rogers,Charles | WR | DET | 20 | 2 | WAS | ST | St-Redskins,Was | | Toomer,Amani | WR | NYG | 11 | 16 | ATL | PK | Feely,Jay | | Gonzalez,Tony | TE | KC | 5 | 26 | MIN | LB | Claiborne,Chris | | Thomas,Adalius | DL | BAL | 11 | 8 | IND | TE | Pollard,Marcus | | Grant,Charles | DL | NO | 27 | 15 | DEN | LB | Wilson,Al | | Abraham,John | DL | NYJ | 27 | 12 | NYG | DB | Williams,Shaun | | Knight,Sammy | DB | NO | 13 | 19 | GB | DL | Gbaja-Biamila,K | | Harrison,Rodney | DB | NE | 17 | 21 | CIN | WR | Johnson,Chad | | Reed,Edward | DB | BAL | 17 | 15 | NO | DB | Bellamy,Jay | | Simoneau,Mark | LB | PHI | 10 | 12 | CLE | RB | Green,William | | Brooks,Derrick | LB | TB | 13 | 31 | BUF | LB | Spikes,Takeo | | Urlacher,Brian | LB | CHI | 20 | 24 | STL | WR | Holt,Torry | | Akers,David | PK | PHI | 0 | 5 | CIN | RB | Dillon,Corey | | St-Saints,No | ST | NO | 20 | 7 | STL | QB | Warner,Kurt | | Ol-Vikings,Min | OL | MIN | 13 | 245 | | | | | | | | 293 | | | | | | | | | | Rolling Thunder | | Del Boca Vista Puppet Masters | Pts | Team | Pos | Name | | Name | Pos | Team | Pts | 7 | PHI | QB | Mcnabb,Donovan | | Gannon,Rich | QB | OAK | 22 | 2 | NE | RB | Smith,Antowain | | Alexander,Shaun | RB | SEA | 25 | 10 | SD | RB | Tomlinson,Ladai | | Green,Ahman | RB | GB | 27 | 12 | BUF | WR | Moulds,Eric | | Horn,Joe | WR | NO | 21 | 25 | TEN | WR | Mason,Derrick | | Morgan,Quincy | WR | CLE | 2 | 20 | STL | WR | Bruce,Isaac | | Rice,Jerry | WR | OAK | 8 | 3 | BUF | DL | Schobel,Aaron | | Jones,Freddie | TE | ARI | 25 | | TB | DL | Sapp,Warren | | Rucker,Michael | DL | CAR | 29 | 7 | ATL | DL | Kerney,Patrick | | Henderson,John | DL | JAC | 13 | 24 | DAL | DB | Woodson,Darren | | Douglas,Hugh | DL | JAC | 16 | 10 | BAL | DB | Mcalister,Chris | | Tongue,Reggie | DB | SEA | 19 | 10 | DAL | DB | Newman,Terence | | Marion,Brock | DB | MIA | 10 | 16 | BAL | LB | Hartwell,Edgerton | | Lewis,Michael | DB | PHI | 7 | 6 | NYJ | LB | Lewis,Mo | | Cowart,Sam | LB | NYJ | 16 | 6 | ATL | LB | Brooking,Keith | | Moreno,Zeke | LB | SD | 13 | 8 | GB | PK | Longwell,Ryan | | Barnett,Nick | LB | GB | 6 | 6 | DAL | ST | St-Cowboys,Dal | | Andersen,Morten | PK | KC | 18 | 7 | BAL | OL | Ol-Ravens,Bal | | St-Cards,Ari | ST | ARI | 8 | | | | | | Ol-Titans,Ten | OL | TEN | 7 | 179 | | | | | | | | 292 | | | | | | | | | | RED results = changed GREEN results = unchanged
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| 59 | wiggs Donor
ID: 13812714 Tue, Sep 09, 2003, 21:52
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WOW, i got smoked. nice week Del Boca Vista Puppet Masters
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| 60 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 535572315 Tue, Sep 09, 2003, 21:55
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Luckily, no W/L results were affected by the changes. I will try to email tech support and hopefully they can get this stuff fixed, but I have a bad feeling I might have to manually fix the stuff by hand on a weekly basis. On the league website, the boxscores FINAL scores are now correct, however the individual scoring is incorrect. Also, the standings have been updated and are correct.
You have until midnight EST on Thursday to file any scoring discrepencies. All scores will become final at that time. Pleaes double check your scores. I'm 99% sure that QB/RB/WR/TE/DL/LB/DB/PK are correct. I manually changed the only positions which were incorrect, OL & ST.
I will once again state how scores for OL & ST are scored.
OL - Point are determined by rushing yards (in the rules section). Also, only rushing TD's count as 1 pt and sacks count as -1 pt.
ST formula = (truncate(return yards gained/10))*2 - (truncate(return yards allowed/15))*2 + 6 * return TD's scored - 3 * return TD's allowed
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| 61 | wiggs Donor
ID: 13812714 Tue, Sep 09, 2003, 22:03
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ap10 I have a complaint. i think you should double my score, just to make it respectable :)
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| 62 | Nerfherders
ID: 43818813 Wed, Sep 10, 2003, 02:41
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ST - we added blocked kicks this year.
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| 63 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 535572315 Wed, Sep 10, 2003, 10:29
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ugh...you are right.
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| 64 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 535572315 Wed, Sep 10, 2003, 11:14
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Ok, went back and none of our ST's had a blocked punt or blocked FG so those numbers stand.
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| 65 | ART of MONK
ID: 13530917 Wed, Sep 10, 2003, 12:51
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What constitues a blocked FG because Carolina got a big piece of the ball?
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| 66 | Nerfherders
ID: 308512415 Wed, Sep 10, 2003, 13:55
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Stats are sketchy, but from what I can tell there where 4 blocked kicks last week. Bears and Jaguars blocked a punt, Carolina blocked a field goal, and Atlanta blocked an extra point. I assume a 'blocked kick' takes all three kinds of kicks into account.
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| 67 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 535572315 Wed, Sep 10, 2003, 17:11
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On NFL.com, I can only find Blocked Field Goals & Blocked Punts, therefore if you want credit for a blocked XP you will need to let me know your team blocked an XP...unless if someone can provide me links...
Blocked Field Goals
Blocked Punts
3 pts will be added to Mike's team for their blocked FG.
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| 68 | Nerfherders
ID: 308512415 Wed, Sep 10, 2003, 18:55
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http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/gamebook/NFL_20030907_ATL@DAL
Under Defensive Statistics, Special Teams.
Other than that, I dont know. NFL.com doesnt seem to like to add extra points to field goal statistics.
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| 69 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 535572315 Wed, Sep 10, 2003, 20:13
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Nerf, that was my point exactly. I'm not going to go through boxscores to determine blocked XP's, that would take me way to long, therefore someone will either need to provide me with a link or let me know when their team blocked an XP.
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| 70 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Thu, Sep 11, 2003, 13:39
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dgrooves - I just noticed that you got blocked from posting. Unfortunately, you got snagged in a block that was set up for someone else (who evidently works - or at least worked - where you do!)
You should be able to post now. Sorry for the frustration.
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| 71 | dgrooves
ID: 444581317 Thu, Sep 11, 2003, 17:48
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Regarding post 57 (which TDs to count for OL scoring), we did discuss the issue last season. However, as the rules dont not say only rushing TDs, we decided to include rushing and passing TDs. That discussion can be found in posts 122 - 127 and 129 here. This issue was never raised during the offseason, so I dont see why we are scoring OL differently than we did last season.
Dont worry about it Guru. It was the first time I tried to post from work so I figured it was just a firewall issue.
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| 72 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 535572315 Thu, Sep 11, 2003, 18:25
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Ok, you are right. I will get those points fixed. It will not make any difference in W/L outcomes however...
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| 73 | Bags@ work
ID: 319561820 Fri, Sep 12, 2003, 22:34
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AP10 I a having trouble setting my roster for my team. I keep getting a message saying that it is past the line up deadline.
Do you want me to post my new lineup here and have you change it manually?
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| 74 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 1455222 Sat, Sep 13, 2003, 00:16
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Shoot. I forgot to change the Thurs. 9pm deadline from last week. Give it another shot now...
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| 75 | Bags
ID: 217221719 Sat, Sep 13, 2003, 00:44
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Cool, it's working now. Although I should probably stick with my first choice, they seem to work better for me.
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| 76 | Doug Sustainer
ID: 3188134 Sat, Sep 13, 2003, 05:26
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Sorry to have to do this again, last time, promise QB Fiedler RB Faulk and Faulk WR Booker, Johnson, Moss TE Sharpe OL Steelers PK Janikowski ST Lions DL Holliday, Rice, Taylor LB Holmes, Peterson, Bulluck DB Wesley, Green, Sharper
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| 77 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 1455222 Sat, Sep 13, 2003, 13:32
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beebop, I received your payment. Mike, I havent received your payment....
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| 78 | beebop
ID: 2682424 Sat, Sep 13, 2003, 19:20
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Cool..... i wasnt sure if i put it in the right box.....lol.
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| 79 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 1455222 Sun, Sep 14, 2003, 01:29
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Just got front row tickets to the Ravens/Browns game tomorrow! I'm so excited! :)
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| 80 | dgrooves
ID: 444581317 Sun, Sep 14, 2003, 12:44
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With an apology in advance to wiggs :), Ive got something to complain about.
From the league rules: "Additionally, if a player on your roster misses an entire game, he may be placed on injured reserve (with a maximum of two players on IR per team)."
Robert Ferguson is on IR right now. He has yet to miss a game and will likely start this week. One team was allowed to draft 6 DBs, even though the position limit is 5, because one of those players was injured. The rules, however, dont allow this; they only allow a player to be placed on IR after Week 1.
You may be saying who cares if a player is on IR too early? Well, mike was able to pick up Javon Walker, now his 6th WR, off of waivers becuase hes got Ferguson on IR. The other team (may have) prevented some of us from drafting a DB we wanted.
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| 81 | Bags
ID: 217221719 Sun, Sep 14, 2003, 16:10
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AP10, was Jamal Lewis any good in the game?
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| 82 | IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO
ID: 458341415 Sun, Sep 14, 2003, 17:56
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hey ap10 i see from the matchups that i have a player less than the normal......i'm pretty sure i selected the right team, so why?
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| 83 | IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO
ID: 458341415 Mon, Sep 15, 2003, 06:56
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so, ap10, why sharper is not on my lineup? it's a close game with beebop, so his points should be really importants.......
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| 84 | Nerfherders
ID: 308512415 Mon, Sep 15, 2003, 13:40
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Yeah there's lots of weird stuff going on. Was the fiasco of the last few draft rounds fixed?
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| 85 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 535572315 Mon, Sep 15, 2003, 14:21
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LAZIO, after your submission a copy of your lineup is sent to my email address so I will cross check it.
Nerf, yes.
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| 86 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 535572315 Tue, Sep 16, 2003, 17:46
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LAZIO, somehow you missed starting sharper. I double checked the email. The good news is that you won anyways...
Waiver claim's have been posted
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| 87 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 535572315 Tue, Sep 16, 2003, 18:49
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Week 2 Final Results Art of Monk | | Furious Midget Klingon Hordes | Pts | Team | Pos | Name | | Name | Pos | Team | Pts | 1 | DET | QB | Harrington,Joey | | Ol-Steelers,Pit | OL | PIT | 5 | 41 | BAL | RB | Lewis,Jamal | | Wesley,Greg | DB | KC | 18 | 20 | NO | RB | Mcallister,Deuc | | Fiedler,Jay | QB | MIA | 19 | 8 | KC | WR | Morton,Johnnie | | Holmes,Earl | LB | DET | 11 | 26 | WAS | WR | Gardner,Rod | | Janikowski,Seba | PK | OAK | 19 | 0 | SEA | WR | Robinson,Koren | | Faulk,Kevin | RB | NE | 11 | 2 | OAK | TE | Jolley,Doug | | Holliday,Vonnie | DL | KC | 2 | 4 | CIN | DL | Smith,Justin | | St-Lions,Det | ST | DET | 26 | 7 | SF | DL | Carter,Andre | | Green,Michael | DB | CHI | 10 | 0 | CAR | DL | Peppers,Julius | | Sharpe,Shannon | TE | DEN | 19 | 3 | TEN | DB | Williams,Tank | | Booker,Marty | WR | CHI | 3 | 8 | SF | DB | Parrish,Tony | | Rice,Simeon | DL | TB | 28 | 14 | STL | DB | Archuleta,Adam | | Peterson,Mike | LB | JAC | 14 | 11 | KC | LB | Maslowski,Mike | | Sharper,Darren | DB | GB | 14 | 10 | WAS | LB | Trotter,Jeremia | | Johnson,Keyshaw | WR | TB | 19 | 19 | SEA | LB | Brown,Chad | | Bulluck,Keith | LB | TEN | 20 | 15 | PIT | PK | Reed,Jeff | | Taylor,Jason | DL | MIA | 5 | 16 | CIN | ST | St-Bengals,Cin | | Faulk,Marshall | RB | STL | 18 | 12 | NO | OL | Ol-Saints,No | | Moss,Randy | WR | MIN | 7 | 217 | | | | | | | | 268 | | | | | | | | | | Nerfherders | | Long Beach Lightning | Pts | Team | Pos | Name | | Name | Pos | Team | Pts | 19 | SF | QB | Garcia,Jeff | | Green,Trent | QB | KC | 5 | 8 | WAS | RB | Canidate,Trung | | Williams,Ricky | RB | MIA | 25 | 8 | PHI | RB | Staley,Duce | | Portis,Clinton | RB | DEN | 12 | 1 | JAC | WR | Stokes,J.j | | Harrison,Marvin | WR | IND | 14 | 0 | SD | WR | Boston,David | | Coles,Laveranue | WR | WAS | 35 | 4 | ATL | WR | Price,Peerless | | Boldin,Anquan | WR | ARI | 14 | 4 | HOU | TE | Miller,Billy | | Franks,Bubba | TE | GB | 6 | 5 | MIN | DL | Mixon,Kenny | | Freeney,Dwight | DL | IND | 10 | 22 | DAL | DL | Ellis,Greg | | Ogunleye,Adewal | DL | MIA | 7 | 10 | STL | DL | Little,Leonard | | Daniels,Phillip | DL | CHI | 11 | 9 | BUF | DB | Clements,Nate | | Williams,Roy | DB | DAL | 9 | 11 | NO | DB | Thomas,Fred | | Jammer,Quentin | DB | SD | 11 | 27 | TB | DB | Kelly,Brian | | Doss,Michael | DB | IND | 7 | 21 | MIA | LB | Thomas,Zach | | Arrington,Lavar | LB | WAS | 20 | 18 | OAK | LB | Barton,Eric | | Smith,Derek | LB | SF | 18 | 7 | SD | LB | Edwards,Donnie | | Fujita,Scott | LB | KC | 9 | 13 | NO | PK | Carney,John | | Elam,Jason | PK | DEN | 24 | 8 | NYJ | ST | St-Jets,Nyj | | St-Patriots,Ne | ST | NE | 8 | 18 | KC | OL | Ol-Chiefs,Kc | | Ol-Rams,Stl | OL | STL | 6 | 213 | | | | | | | | 251 | | | | | | | | | | Sandwich Town Statics | | Cowboys Homer | Pts | Team | Pos | Name | | Name | Pos | Team | Pts | 19 | NO | QB | Brooks,Aaron | | Culpepper,Daunt | QB | MIN | 18 | 4 | TEN | RB | George,Eddie | | Zereoue,Amos | RB | PIT | 7 | 21 | BUF | RB | Henry,Travis | | Taylor,Fred | RB | JAC | 13 | 4 | GB | WR | Walker,Javon | | Chambers,Chris | WR | MIA | 13 | 7 | DAL | WR | Galloway,Joey | | Stallworth,Dont | WR | NO | 12 | 28 | SEA | WR | Jackson,Darrell | | Burress,Plaxico | WR | PIT | 24 | 20 | ATL | TE | Crumpler,Alge | | Heap,Todd | TE | BAL | 2 | 10 | SD | DL | Wiley,Marcellus | | Johnson,Joe | DL | GB | 6 | 9 | TEN | DL | Kearse,Jevon | | Wistrom,Grant | DL | STL | 6 | 2 | NYG | DL | Strahan,Michael | | Smith,Aaron | DL | PIT | 6 | 17 | KC | LB | Barber,Shawn | | Stoutmire,Omar | DB | NYG | 15 | 6 | PIT | LB | Bell,Kendrell | | Lassiter,Kwamie | DB | ARI | 12 | 27 | BAL | LB | Lewis,Ray | | Schulters,Lance | DB | TEN | 9 | 11 | TB | DB | Barber,Ronde | | Simmons,Anthony | LB | SEA | 12 | 7 | CHI | DB | Brown,Mike | | Foreman,Jay | LB | HOU | 24 | 12 | STL | DB | Williams,Aeneas | | Fletcher,London | LB | BUF | 8 | 26 | IND | PK | Vanderjagt,Mike | | Gramatica,Marti | PK | TB | 6 | 16 | CAR | ST | St-Panthers,Car | | St-Browns,Cle | ST | CLE | 6 | 3 | PHI | OL | Ol-Eagles,Phi | | Ol-Packers,Gb | OL | GB | 19 | 249 | | | | | | | | 218 | | | | | | | | | | Italian Eagles | | beebop | Pts | Team | Pos | Name | | Name | Pos | Team | Pts | 14 | GB | QB | Favre,Brett | | Johnson,Brad | QB | TB | 16 | 2 | BUF | RB | Gary,Olandis | | Bettis,Jerome | RB | PIT | 0 | 4 | HOU | RB | Mack,Stacey | | Barber,Tiki | RB | NYG | 5 | 3 | MIA | WR | Thompson,Derriu | | Johnson,Kevin | WR | CLE | 15 | 3 | MIN | WR | Bates,Dwayne | | Ward,Hines | WR | PIT | 23 | 12 | DEN | WR | Smith,Rod | | Owens,Terrell | WR | SF | 15 | 9 | NYG | TE | Shockey,Jeremy | | Mcmichael,Randy | TE | MIA | 13 | 17 | TEN | DL | Carter,Kevin | | Haggans,Clark | DL | PIT | 12 | 6 | PHI | DL | Walker,Darwin | | Pryce,Trevor | DL | DEN | 2 | 16 | NYG | DL | Holmes,Kenny | | Coleman,Roderic | DL | OAK | 1 | 8 | NE | DB | Law,Ty | | Harper,Nick | DB | IND | 23 | 17 | PIT | DB | Scott,Chad | | Bailey,Champ | DB | WAS | 4 | 15 | DEN | DB | Oneal,Deltha | | Bly,Dre | DB | DET | 13 | 16 | DEN | LB | Gold,Ian | | Taylor,Ben | LB | CLE | 9 | 4 | PIT | LB | Gildon,Jason | | Boulware,Peter | LB | BAL | 5 | 14 | STL | PK | Wilkins,Jeff | | Colvin,Rosevelt | LB | NE | 2 | 32 | HOU | ST | St-Texans,Hou | | Vinatieri,Adam | PK | NE | 12 | 19 | DEN | OL | Ol-Broncos,Den | | St-Bears,Chi | ST | CHI | 8 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | Ol-Cowboys,Dal | OL | DAL | 8 | 211 | | | | | | | | 186 | | | | | | | | | | Del Boca Vista Puppet Masters | | Birds of Prey | Pts | Team | Pos | Name | | Name | Pos | Team | Pts | 4 | OAK | QB | Gannon,Rich | | Boller,Kyle | QB | BAL | -3 | 22 | GB | RB | Green,Ahman | | Garner,Charlie | RB | OAK | 14 | 14 | SEA | RB | Alexander,Shaun | | Holmes,Priest | RB | KC | 32 | 8 | OAK | WR | Rice,Jerry | | Taylor,Travis | WR | BAL | 4 | 3 | CLE | WR | Morgan,Quincy | | Toomer,Amani | WR | NYG | 25 | 21 | NO | WR | Horn,Joe | | Rogers,Charles | WR | DET | 7 | 9 | ARI | TE | Jones,Freddie | | Gonzalez,Tony | TE | KC | 3 | 8 | CAR | DL | Rucker,Michael | | Abraham,John | DL | NYJ | 14 | 4 | JAC | DL | Douglas,Hugh | | Grant,Charles | DL | NO | 12 | 13 | SEA | DL | Okeafor,Chike | | Thomas,Adalius | DL | BAL | 8 | 10 | CLE | DB | Griffith,Robert | | Reed,Edward | DB | BAL | 33 | 10 | MIA | DB | Marion,Brock | | Harrison,Rodney | DB | NE | 18 | 18 | SEA | DB | Tongue,Reggie | | Milloy,Lawyer | DB | NE | 4 | 25 | NYJ | LB | Cowart,Sam | | Urlacher,Brian | LB | CHI | 28 | 8 | SF | LB | Winborn,Jamie | | Brooks,Derrick | LB | TB | 9 | 20 | SD | LB | Moreno,Zeke | | Simoneau,Mark | LB | PHI | 18 | 10 | KC | PK | Andersen,Morten | | Akers,David | PK | PHI | 9 | 24 | ARI | ST | St-Cards,Ari | | St-Saints,No | ST | NO | -10 | 4 | TEN | OL | Ol-Titans,Ten | | Ol-Vikings,Min | OL | MIN | 16 | 235 | | | | | | | | 241 | | | | | | | | | | Rolling Thunder | | Ike44 | Pts | Team | Pos | Name | | Name | Pos | Team | Pts | 0 | PHI | QB | Mcnabb,Donovan | | Bulger,Marc | QB | STL | 15 | 10 | SF | RB | Hearst,Garrison | | Dillon,Corey | RB | CIN | 15 | 16 | SD | RB | Tomlinson,Ladai | | Green,William | RB | CLE | 3 | 19 | TEN | WR | Mason,Derrick | | Holt,Torry | WR | STL | 18 | 12 | STL | WR | Bruce,Isaac | | Johnson,Chad | WR | CIN | 21 | 26 | BUF | WR | Moulds,Eric | | Johnson,Andre | WR | HOU | 12 | 0 | BUF | DL | Schobel,Aaron | | Pollard,Marcus | TE | IND | 4 | 4 | TB | DL | Sapp,Warren | | Gbaja-Biamila,K | DL | GB | 0 | 5 | ATL | DL | Kerney,Patrick | | Hicks,Eric | DL | KC | 12 | 4 | DAL | DB | Woodson,Darren | | Seymour,Richard | DL | NE | 7 | 8 | BAL | DB | Mcalister,Chris | | Bellamy,Jay | DB | NO | 22 | 28 | DAL | DB | Newman,Terence | | Williams,Shaun | DB | NYG | 17 | 10 | BAL | LB | Hartwell,Edgerton | | Woodson,Charles | DB | OAK | 25 | 7 | NYJ | LB | Lewis,Mo | | Spikes,Takeo | LB | BUF | 22 | 17 | ATL | LB | Brooking,Keith | | Claiborne,Chris | LB | MIN | 18 | 14 | GB | PK | Longwell,Ryan | | Wilson,Al | LB | DEN | 15 | 6 | DAL | ST | St-Cowboys,Dal | | Feely,Jay | PK | ATL | 13 | 16 | SEA | OL | Ol-Seahawks,Sea | | St-Redskins,Was | ST | WAS | -6 | 16 | IND | TE | Clark,Dallas | | Ol-Raiders,Oak | OL | OAK | 14 | 218 | | | | | | | | 247 | | | | | | | | | | |
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