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| 1 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 535572315 Wed, Oct 29, 2003, 01:07
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Week 8 Final Results Sandwich Town Statics | | Long Beach Lightning | Pts | Team | Pos | Name | | Name | Pos | Team | Pts | 13 | NO | QB | Brooks,Aaron | | Leftwich,Byron | QB | JAC | 3 | 4 | SF | RB | Barlow,Kevan | | Williams,Ricky | RB | MIA | 10 | 14 | BUF | RB | Henry,Travis | | Portis,Clinton | RB | DEN | 16 | 4 | DAL | WR | Galloway,Joey | | Boldin,Anquan | WR | ARI | 2 | 17 | NYJ | WR | Moss,Santana | | Smith,Jimmy | WR | JAC | 15 | 11 | TEN | WR | Calico,Tyrone | | Harrison,Marvin | WR | IND | 18 | 8 | NYJ | TE | Becht,Anthony | | Clark,Desmond | TE | CHI | 0 | 10 | NYJ | DL | Ellis,Shaun | | Hayward,Reggie | DL | DEN | 6 | 5 | TEN | DL | Kearse,Jevon | | Ogunleye,Adewal | DL | MIA | 16 | 26 | NYG | DL | Strahan,Michael | | Freeney,Dwight | DL | IND | 12 | 31 | TB | DB | Barber,Ronde | | Plummer,Ahmed | DB | SF | 5 | 17 | BUF | DB | Winfield,Antoine | | Doss,Michael | DB | IND | 12 | 14 | SEA | DB | Trufant,Marcus | | Williams,Roy | DB | DAL | 8 | 8 | KC | LB | Barber,Shawn | | Peterson,Julian | LB | SF | 12 | 13 | PIT | LB | Bell,Kendrell | | Smith,Derek | LB | SF | 13 | 28 | BAL | LB | Lewis,Ray | | Porter,Joey | LB | PIT | 29 | 19 | IND | PK | Vanderjagt,Mike | | Elam,Jason | PK | DEN | 8 | -8 | CAR | ST | St-Panthers,Car | | St-Patriots,Ne | ST | NE | 10 | 11 | TB | OL | Ol-Bucs,Tb | | Ol-Rams,Stl | OL | STL | 10 | 245 | | | | | | | | 205 | | | | | | | | | | Italian Eagles | | Furious Midget Klingon Horde | Pts | Team | Pos | Name | | Name | Pos | Team | Pts | 28 | IND | QB | Manning,Peyton | | Delhomme,Jake | QB | CAR | 5 | 5 | PHI | RB | Westbrook,Brian | | Faulk,Kevin | RB | NE | 20 | 18 | ARI | RB | Shipp,Marcel | | Gary,Olandis | RB | DET | 2 | 0 | MIN | WR | Campbell,Kelly | | Moss,Randy | WR | MIN | 31 | 6 | DEN | WR | Smith,Rod | | Wayne,Reggie | WR | IND | 27 | 20 | CAR | WR | Smith,Steve | | Mccardell,Keena | WR | TB | 12 | 19 | NYG | TE | Shockey,Jeremy | | Sharpe,Shannon | TE | DEN | 5 | 2 | BAL | DL | Douglas,Marques | | Taylor,Jason | DL | MIA | 12 | 0 | SD | DL | Dingle,Adrian | | Rice,Simeon | DL | TB | 7 | 0 | TEN | DL | Carter,Kevin | | Johnstone,Lance | 0 | MIN | 0 | 28 | MIN | DB | Chavous,Corey | | Green,Michael | 0 | CHI | 0 | 6 | NE | DB | Poole,Tyrone | | Wesley,Greg | DB | KC | 16 | 10 | HOU | DB | Coleman,Marcus | | Warfield,Eric | DB | KC | 37 | 27 | DAL | LB | Nguyen,Dat | | Bulluck,Keith | LB | TEN | 11 | 18 | NYG | LB | Jones,Dhani | | Holmes,Earl | LB | DET | 14 | 10 | HOU | LB | Sharper,Jamie | | Thomas,Robert | LB | STL | 14 | 14 | STL | PK | Wilkins,Jeff | | Janikowski,Sebastian | 0 | OAK | 0 | 24 | HOU | ST | St-Texans,Hou | | St-Lions,Det | ST | DET | 23 | 15 | IND | OL | Ol-Colts,Ind | | Ol-Niners,Sf | OL | SF | 9 | 250 | | | | | | | | 245 | | | | | | | | | | Birds of Prey | | Art of Monk | Pts | Team | Pos | Name | | Name | Pos | Team | Pts | 23 | CIN | QB | Kitna,Jon | | Bledsoe,Drew | QB | BUF | -6 | 31 | KC | RB | Holmes,Priest | | Lewis,Jamal | RB | BAL | 24 | 4 | SF | WR | Streets,Tai | | McAllister,Deuce | RB | NO | 13 | 1 | BAL | WR | Taylor,Travis | | Morton,Johnnie | WR | KC | 1 | 12 | NYG | WR | Toomer,Amani | | Brown,Troy | WR | NE | 3 | 25 | KC | TE | Gonzalez,Tony | | Robinson,Koren | WR | SEA | 5 | 3 | CHI | DL | Brown,Alex | | Whitehead,Willi | DL | NO | 11 | 26 | NO | DL | Grant,Charles | | Carter,Andre | DL | SF | 7 | 34 | NYJ | DL | Abraham,John | | Peppers,Julius | DL | CAR | 10 | 14 | NE | DB | Harrison,Rodney | | Williams,Tank | DB | TEN | 1 | 4 | BAL | DB | Reed,Edward | | Brown,Eric | DB | HOU | 14 | 13 | MIN | DB | Williams,Brian | | Wilson,Adrian | DB | ARI | 7 | 20 | PHI | LB | Simoneau,Mark | | Thornton,David | LB | IND | 8 | 17 | CHI | LB | Urlacher,Brian | | Simmons,Brian | LB | CIN | 29 | 18 | TB | LB | Brooks,Derrick | | Brown,Chad | LB | SEA | 0 | 11 | PHI | PK | Akers,David | | Cundiff,Billy | PK | DAL | 0 | 34 | NO | ST | St-Saints,No | | St-Steelers,Pit | ST | PIT | 56 | 11 | MIN | OL | Ol-Vikings,Min | | Ol-Saints,No | OL | NO | 10 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | Schobel,Matt | TE | CIN | 0 | 301 | | | | | | | | 193 | | | | | | | | | | Ike44 | | Cowboys Homer | Pts | Team | Pos | Name | | Name | Pos | Team | Pts | 21 | STL | QB | Bulger,Marc | | Culpepper,Daunte | QB | MIN | 19 | 0 | CLE | RB | Green,William | | Davis,Stephen | RB | CAR | 31 | 0 | CIN | RB | Dillon,Corey | | Taylor,Fred | RB | JAC | 10 | 6 | HOU | WR | Johnson,Andre | | Lelie,Ashley | WR | DEN | 5 | 17 | CIN | WR | Johnson,Chad | | Chambers,Chris | WR | MIA | 17 | 30 | STL | WR | Holt,Torry | | Burress,Plaxico | WR | PIT | 1 | 16 | IND | TE | Pollard,Marcus | | Heap,Todd | TE | BAL | 13 | 0 | GB | DL | Gbaja-Biamila,K | | Sims,Ryan | DL | KC | 11 | 13 | KC | DL | Hicks,Eric | | Brackens,Tony | DL | JAC | 11 | 5 | NE | DL | Seymour,Richard | | Berry,Bertrand | DL | DEN | 8 | 4 | JAC | DB | Mccree,Marlon | | Schulters,Lance | DB | TEN | 4 | 18 | NYG | DB | Williams,Shaun | | Lassiter,Kwamie | DB | SD | 9 | 12 | NO | DB | Bellamy,Jay | | Stoutmire,Omar | DB | NYG | 6 | 12 | MIN | LB | Claiborne,Chris | | Mckinnon,Ronald | LB | ARI | 11 | 21 | DEN | LB | Wilson,Al | | Simmons,Anthony | LB | SEA | 11 | 17 | BUF | LB | Spikes,Takeo | | Fletcher,London | LB | BUF | 11 | 5 | SD | OL | Ol-Chargers,Sd | | Gramatica,Martin | PK | TB | 17 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | St-Browns,Cle | ST | CLE | 8 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | Ol-Dolphins,Mia | OL | MIA | 10 | 197 | | | | | | | | 213 | | | | | | | | | | Del Boca Vista Puppet Masters | | beebop | Pts | Team | Pos | Name | | Name | Pos | Team | Pts | 1 | CLE | QB | Couch,Tim | | Mcnair,Steve | QB | TEN | 10 | 14 | NYJ | RB | Martin,Curtis | | Williams,Rickey | RB | IND | 0 | 26 | SEA | RB | Alexander,Shaun | | Barber,Tiki | RB | NYG | 22 | 7 | NYJ | WR | Chrebet,Wayne | | Owens,Terrell | WR | SF | 11 | 31 | NYG | WR | Hilliard,Ike | | Ward,Hines | WR | PIT | 26 | 25 | NO | WR | Horn,Joe | | Johnson,Kevin | WR | CLE | 8 | 7 | ARI | TE | Jones,Freddie | | Mcmichael,Randy | TE | MIA | 13 | 9 | JAC | DL | Ayodele,Akin | | Ferguson,Jason | DL | NYJ | 11 | 2 | SEA | DL | Okeafor,Chike | | Clemons,Duane | DL | CIN | 4 | 22 | CAR | DL | Rucker,Michael | | Pryce,Trevor | DL | DEN | 12 | 11 | DEN | DB | Herndon,Kelly | | Bly,Dre | DB | DET | 7 | 13 | SEA | DB | Hamlin,Ken | | Russell,Brian | DB | MIN | 0 | 6 | SEA | DB | Tongue,Reggie | | Harper,Niccholas | DB | IND | 21 | 7 | SD | LB | Moreno,Zeke | | Fujita,Scott | LB | KC | 22 | 17 | SF | LB | Winborn,Jamie | | Bruschi,Tedy | LB | NE | 12 | 15 | NYJ | LB | Cowart,Sam | | Taylor,Ben | LB | CLE | 34 | 16 | KC | PK | Andersen,Morten | | Vinatieri,Adam | PK | NE | 13 | 6 | ARI | ST | St-Cards,Ari | | St-Bears,Chi | ST | CHI | 13 | 9 | CAR | OL | Ol-Panthers,Car | | Ol-Bears,Chi | OL | CHI | 8 | 244 | | | | | | | | 247 | | | | | | | | | | Rolling Thunder | | Nerfherders | Pts | Team | Pos | Name | | Name | Pos | Team | Pts | 9 | PHI | QB | Mcnabb,Donovan | | Garcia,Jeff | QB | SF | 16 | 31 | SD | RB | Tomlinson,Ladainian | | Williams,Moe | RB | MIN | 9 | 7 | SF | RB | Hearst,Garrison | | Pittman,Michael | RB | TB | 12 | 5 | TEN | WR | Mason,Derrick | | Northcutt,Denni | WR | CLE | 4 | 10 | STL | WR | Bruce,Isaac | | Kennison,Eddie | WR | KC | 10 | 11 | BUF | WR | Moulds,Eric | | Boston,David | WR | SD | 13 | 0 | IND | TE | Clark,Dallas | | Kinney,Erron | TE | TEN | 10 | 3 | CLE | DL | Brown,Courtney | | Mixon,Kenny | DL | MIN | 8 | 4 | BUF | DL | Schobel,Aaron | | Ellis,Greg | DL | DAL | 23 | 10 | TB | DL | Sapp,Warren | | Little,Leonard | DL | STL | 13 | 17 | DAL | DB | Woodson,Darren | | Surtain,Patrick | DB | MIA | 26 | 4 | PHI | DB | Vincent,Troy | | Clements,Nate | DB | BUF | 5 | 11 | DAL | DB | Newman,Terence | | Thomas,Fred | DB | NO | 20 | 6 | IND | LB | Morris,Rob | | Seau,Junior | LB | MIA | 8 | 9 | BAL | LB | Hartwell,Edgerton | | Thomas,Zach | LB | MIA | 24 | 4 | NYJ | LB | Lewis,Mo | | Edwards,Donnie | LB | SD | 26 | -12 | KC | ST | St-Chiefs,Kc | | Carney,John | PK | NO | 16 | 13 | SEA | OL | Ol-Seahawks,Sea | | St-Jets,Nyj | ST | NYJ | 10 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | Ol-Chiefs,Kc | OL | KC | 15 | 142 | | | | | | | | 268 | | | | | | | | | | RED=changed result GREEN=unchanged result
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| 2 | dgrooves
ID: 12831011 Wed, Oct 29, 2003, 12:26
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Once again, theres a problem with the scoring for my team, but this time if affects the outcome of the game.
Carolina OL: 223 yards rushing - 16 points 2 offensive TDs - 2 points 1 sack allowed - -1 point
16 + 2 - 1 = 17, not 9
This means my team scored 252 points, not 244, thus beating beebop 252 to 247.
Also, Arizona ST blocked a punt. I forget if only blocked field goals and extra points count, but if punts count too, then they scored 9 not 6. This would bump my score up to 255.
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| 3 | Doug Sustainer
ID: 31649212 Wed, Oct 29, 2003, 13:17
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I had Jason Taylor tackle somebody for a safety, which seems like a pretty big deal, at least equivalent to a sack. Instead, I got a measly 2 points for the "tackle".
I would propose that next year we add points for our IDPs if they score a safety (if the site will handle it)... probably 6 (equal to a TD, Sack, or INT). Not only does it score 2 points for your team, but your team also then gets posession of the ball on the ensuing kick! It's like 2 points AND a turnover! And they are very rare, so I don't think 6 points is unusually high. Besides, it would have given me the win this week. =-)
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| 4 | Nerfherders
ID: 308512415 Wed, Oct 29, 2003, 16:59
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Rod Burnett made the sack that caused the fumble in the endzone. I was looking closely at the play live, and I *guess* that since Taylor was the closest defender when the Charger player covered the ball, he gets credited the tackle and the safety. In reality though Taylor had nothing to do with the play, Burnett made the sack and forced the fumble in the endzone. I figured he would get total credit for the safety.
Oh, and all blocks count. kicks, extrapoints, punts. If, in the NFL.com Gamebook, the team has anything under BL in the special teams defense breakdown, then they get a block.
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| 5 | Doug Sustainer
ID: 31649212 Wed, Oct 29, 2003, 17:16
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If the Charger player who recovered the ball had advanced it out of the end zone, it would not have been a safety. Therefore, Burnett could not appropriately be credited for the safety by merely causing the fumble... but Taylor, making the tackle (albeit merely by contacting the player already on the ground) is thus appropriately credited with the safety.
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| 6 | Nerfherders
ID: 308512415 Thu, Oct 30, 2003, 10:45
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I agree with the scoring on that play. I'm just saying that in general safeties are recorded by the player who made the play. Burnett got 11 points from that play. And most of the times, those kinds points come out of plays like safeties, so there's no lack of points awarded in those situations. They keep this stat in college, but I would like to see the NFL keep a stat of tackles for losses. Then we could award defenders for tackles that lose yards, regardless of whether it is the QB. Because, really, what's the difference?
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| 7 | Doug Sustainer
ID: 2730280 Thu, Oct 30, 2003, 11:08
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Safety = points + turnover, even if there was no fumble involved (as there was on this play). For this reason it should be worth more than a regular sack, etc. IMHO.
I think it would be great if the NFL kept track of tackles for losses, but if they did I wouldn't value them as highly as sacks (maybe 3 points vs. 6). Sacks tend to average more negative yardage (guesstimating 4-8 yards on average) wheras "tackles for a loss" (not including sacks) probably average more like 2-3 yards. Just guessing, but seems about reasonable. The only time you usually get a "big" tackle for a loss is a blown trick play, like a reverse, or an RB who tries to reverse field after the sweep to one side is blocked, etc... but there are a lot more of the 1 or 2 yard losses on running plays variety, which I don't think are comparable to the average sack. Anyway, it's all just hypothetical, but interesting to discuss!
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| 8 | Nerfherders
ID: 308512415 Thu, Oct 30, 2003, 13:29
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I was thinking the same thing. They would be worth 3 points. Because there are many times where the runner runs up the middle and loses half a yard or whatever.
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| 9 | dgrooves
ID: 444581317 Thu, Oct 30, 2003, 19:34
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Considering the fact that I havent made a waiver claim in 20 days, Id like to know how Im 11th in waiver priority. Its pretty important to me this week as another team has claimed the same player as me.
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| 11 | Bags @ work
ID: 69253021 Thu, Oct 30, 2003, 22:37
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You are correct. You should be ahead of beebop and below LBL.
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| 12 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 535572315 Fri, Oct 31, 2003, 00:51
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Actually you should be below me and ahead of Bags. I'm not sure what he's looking at. Its been fixed. When you activated a player I accidentally bumped you down. I also fixed your scoring...
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| 13 | Nerfherders
ID: 308512415 Fri, Oct 31, 2003, 10:21
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So dgrooves' scoring changes have been approved? I want to make sure before I put the numbers in my spreadsheet.
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| 14 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 535572315 Fri, Oct 31, 2003, 10:35
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Yes, he totaled 255 pts for the week.
OL was 19 instead of 7. ST was 9 instead of 6.
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| 15 | Nerfherders
ID: 308512415 Fri, Oct 31, 2003, 13:08
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Here's a little spreadsheet for your enjoyment. Progress through the half-way point. Interesting thing is scoring is down this year. | 2002 | | 2003 | Team | Points | Games missed | Wins | Points/game played | | Points | Wins | Points/game | AP10 | 2032 | ÿ | 7 | 254.0 | | 2009 | 6.5 | 251.1 | dgrooves | 1886 | ÿ | 3 | 235.8 | | 2059 | 6 | 257.4 | wiggs | 1707 | 1 | 4 | 243.9 | | 1589 | 1 | 198.6 | Ike | 1498 | 1 | 2 | 214.0 | | 1647 | 1 | 205.9 | Lazio | 1984 | ÿ | 6 | 248.0 | | 1784 | 5.5 | 223.0 | beebop | 1884 | ÿ | 4 | 235.5 | | 1800 | 1 | 225.0 | Mike | 1832 | ÿ | 4 | 229.0 | | 2025 | 7 | 253.1 | Bags | 1345 | 2 | 1 | 224.2 | | 1734 | 4 | 216.8 | Doug | 1970 | ÿ | 5 | 246.3 | | 2030 | 4 | 253.8 | dwfffan | 1703 | ÿ | 3 | 212.9 | | 1866 | 5 | 233.3 | Art of Monk | 1964 | ÿ | 5 | 245.5 | | 1756 | 2 | 219.5 | Nerfherders | 1824 | ÿ | 4 | 228.0 | | 1852 | 5 | 231.5 | Totals | 21629 | 4 | | 235.1 | | 22151 | | 230.7 | | | | | | | | | |
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| 16 | Nerfherders
ID: 308512415 Fri, Oct 31, 2003, 13:17
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Oh and a shout out to Bags for taking over SD's old team. He's been competitive (if a bit lucky) and a great addition to the league.
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| 17 | IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO
ID: 458341415 Fri, Oct 31, 2003, 13:20
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ap10, don't know if i'll be able to log in again this week, so, can you activate porter for my team as i already requested and put him in my lineup as 3rd WR, filling the blank spot i left for him? thank you very much!!!
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| 18 | Bags
ID: 269112610 Fri, Oct 31, 2003, 14:14
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Lucky?!?
It's all skill baby!
Although I don't know how much skill it takes to get a .500 team. Anyway,thanks for letting me play with you guys it's been fun.
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| 19 | Doug... on the road
ID: 559163119 Sat, Nov 01, 2003, 01:01
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Bags... got your trade offer... I'm out of town and don't want to make a snap decision, especially with limited web access... I'll have to get back to you next week. I'll be back on Thursday. Thanks!
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| 20 | dgrooves
ID: 444581317 Sun, Nov 02, 2003, 15:42
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Well it looks like I would have been better off keeping my big mouth shut about claiming Tuiasosopo. Hes going to score less points than both QBs on my bench, neither of whom will play a down this week.
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| 21 | IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO
ID: 458341415 Sun, Nov 02, 2003, 19:25
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dgrooves, if you need a qb there a guy named brett on my team out for sale......it's all about making the right offer.....;-)
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| 22 | beebop
ID: 221013216 Mon, Nov 03, 2003, 04:07
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Ive also got Brad Johnson/Steve McNair if anyone is interested.
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| 23 | Nerfherders
ID: 308512415 Mon, Nov 03, 2003, 16:36
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I think I outscored everyone in the league this week EXCEPT the team I'm playing. Mike is a badass. I predict he wins it all.
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| 24 | IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO
ID: 458341415 Tue, Nov 04, 2003, 07:19
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doug i've proposed a trade: Italian Eagles QB-Favre,Brett, GB RB-Dunn,Warrick, ATL WR-Porter,Jerry, OAK WR-Smith,Rod, DEN DB-Law,Ty, NE
Furious Midget Klingon Horde WR-Moss,Randy, MIN
dunno if you should be positive about it, but if you will and want to accept it please make a counter offer including in the deal the players you would drop to make room to law, dunn, favre and the receiver.......thanks......
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| 25 | Doug Sustainer
ID: 31649212 Thu, Nov 06, 2003, 20:00
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Cowboys and Lazio... received both your trade offers. Was out of town so I didn't have time to respond until now.
Cowboys - Hard for me to give up Faulk. You did offer some nice pieces in the deal at other positions, but I think I can get by at those positions with what I've got, and at RB I really need Faulk. It looks like Taylor is still the main guy in JAC, but will be splitting carries a little bit more so that the other guys (Chris M-Fer and Toefield) can see some reps.
Lazio - Moss looks to have finally matured and I expect him to be a top tier receiver for years to come. As such, I think I've got to hold on to him as a keeper player. Porter is the only guy you offered who I would keep, and I consider him a major downgrade from Moss, especially in light of the Raiders current woes.
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| 26 | IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO
ID: 458341415 Thu, Nov 06, 2003, 20:07
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yes, but i did that offer because i tought you would have wanted to upgrade other positions for THIS year. favre is a top 5 qb, smith and porter combined would have done for moss (ok, at least you wouldn't loose more than 13 points per week, dunn is a plug in at rb whenever you need even if it's hard to predict his up and downs and ty law is a stud db......anyway, if you don't like it i understand....
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| 27 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 535572315 Thu, Nov 06, 2003, 23:48
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Week 9 Results Sandwich Town Statics | | Nerfherders | Pts | Team | Pos | Name | | Name | Pos | Team | Pts | 19 | WAS | QB | Ramsey,Patrick | | Collins,Kerry | QB | NYG | 26 | 13 | SF | RB | Barlow,Kevan | | Williams,Moe | RB | MIN | 12 | 12 | ATL | RB | Duckett,T.j. | | Pittman,Michael | RB | TB | 20 | 2 | DAL | WR | Galloway,Joey | | Brown,Tim | WR | OAK | 10 | 41 | NYJ | WR | Moss,Santana | | Boston,David | WR | SD | 6 | 19 | SEA | WR | Jackson,Darrell | | Price,Peerless | WR | ATL | 14 | 3 | ATL | TE | Crumpler,Alge | | Miller,Billy | TE | HOU | 21 | 6 | NYJ | DL | Ellis,Shaun | | Mixon,Kenny | DL | MIN | 9 | 4 | SD | DL | Wiley,Marcellus | | Ellis,Greg | DL | DAL | 3 | 14 | NYG | DL | Strahan,Michael | | Little,Leonard | DL | STL | 0 | 24 | ARI | DB | Jackson,Dexter | | Surtain,Patrick | DB | MIA | 7 | 22 | SEA | DB | Trufant,Marcus | | Thomas,Fred | DB | NO | 26 | 15 | TB | DB | Barber,Ronde | | Kelly,Brian | DB | TB | 0 | 13 | OAK | LB | Harris,Napoleon | | Thomas,Zach | LB | MIA | 31 | 17 | PIT | LB | Bell,Kendrell | | Barton,Eric | LB | OAK | 18 | 38 | BAL | LB | Lewis,Ray | | Edwards,Donnie | LB | SD | 18 | 21 | IND | PK | Vanderjagt,Mike | | Carney,John | PK | NO | 10 | 2 | CAR | ST | St-Panthers,Car | | St-Falcons,Atl | ST | ATL | 28 | 6 | TB | OL | Ol-Bucs,Tb | | Ol-Cowboys,Dal | OL | DAL | 19 | 291 | | | | | | | | 278 | | | | | | | | | | Italian Eagles | | Long Beach Lightning | Pts | Team | Pos | Name | | Name | Pos | Team | Pts | 13 | IND | QB | Manning,Peyton | | Leftwich,Byron | QB | JAC | 8 | 15 | ARI | RB | Shipp,Marcel | | Williams,Ricky | RB | MIA | 15 | 20 | IND | RB | James,Edgerrin | | Portis,Clinton | RB | DEN | 23 | 19 | CAR | WR | Smith,Steve | | Smith,Jimmy | WR | JAC | 12 | 18 | CIN | WR | Warrick,Peter | | Coles,Laveranues | WR | WAS | 12 | 25 | NYG | TE | Shockey,Jeremy | | Harrison,Marvin | WR | IND | 12 | 7 | BAL | DL | Douglas,Marques | | Franks,Bubba | TE | GB | 0 | 18 | SD | DL | Dingle,Adrian | | Hayward,Reggie | DL | DEN | 0 | 0 | NYG | DL | Holmes,Kenny | | Ogunleye,Adewal | DL | MIA | 22 | 9 | NE | DB | Poole,Tyrone | | Freeney,Dwight | DL | IND | 34 | 24 | MIN | DB | Chavous,Corey | | Plummer,Ahmed | DB | SF | 17 | 21 | PIT | DB | Scott,Chad | | Doss,Michael | DB | IND | 4 | 17 | DAL | LB | Nguyen,Dat | | Williams,Roy | DB | DAL | 15 | 11 | NE | LB | Phifer,Roman | | Diggs,Nail | LB | GB | 0 | 26 | NYG | LB | Barrow,Mike | | Porter,Joey | LB | PIT | 8 | 7 | STL | PK | Wilkins,Jeff | | Arrington,Lavar | LB | WAS | 18 | 10 | HOU | ST | St-Texans,Hou | | Elam,Jason | PK | DEN | 8 | 13 | DEN | OL | Ol-Broncos,Den | | St-Dolphins,Mia | ST | MIA | 12 | 8 | OAK | WR | Porter,Jerry | | Ol-Rams,Stl | OL | STL | 4 | 281 | | | | | | | | 224 | | | | | | | | | | Birds of Prey | | Furious Midget Klingon Horde | Pts | Team | Pos | Name | | Name | Pos | Team | Pts | 8 | CIN | QB | Kitna,Jon | | Carter,Quincy | QB | DAL | 9 | 0 | WAS | 0 | Canidate,Trung | | Thomas,Anthony | RB | CHI | 23 | 13 | OAK | RB | Garner,Charlie | | Faulk,Kevin | RB | NE | 12 | 11 | SF | WR | Streets,Tai | | Wayne,Reggie | WR | IND | 4 | 9 | BAL | WR | Taylor,Travis | | Moss,Randy | WR | MIN | 20 | 24 | NYG | WR | Toomer,Amani | | Mccardell,Keena | WR | TB | 18 | 6 | SEA | TE | Mili,Itula | | Sharpe,Shannon | TE | DEN | 11 | 9 | NO | DL | Grant,Charles | | Rice,Simeon | DL | TB | 20 | 5 | CHI | DL | Brown,Alex | | Taylor,Jason | DL | MIA | 12 | 3 | ATL | DL | Johnson,Ellis | | Johnstone,Lance | DL | MIN | 5 | 14 | NE | DB | Harrison,Rodney | | Green,Michael | DB | CHI | 0 | 5 | BAL | DB | Reed,Edward | | Sharper,Darren | DB | GB | 7 | 14 | BAL | DB | Baxter,Gary | | Ol-Niners,Sf | OL | SF | 17 | 10 | PHI | LB | Simoneau,Mark | | St-Lions,Det | ST | DET | 20 | 17 | TB | LB | Brooks,Derrick | | Janikowski,Sebastian | PK | OAK | 13 | 4 | CHI | LB | Urlacher,Brian | | Holmes,Earl | LB | DET | 6 | 20 | SEA | PK | Brown,Josh | | Thomas,Robert | LB | STL | 17 | 10 | NO | ST | St-Saints,No | | Draft,Chris | LB | ATL | 19 | 13 | MIN | OL | Ol-Vikings,Min | | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 195 | | | | | | | | 233 | | | | | | | | | | Ike44 | | beebop | Pts | Team | Pos | Name | | Name | Pos | Team | Pts | 12 | STL | QB | Bulger,Marc | | Johnson,Brad | QB | TB | 16 | 1 | CIN | RB | Dillon,Corey | | Bryson,Shawn | RB | DET | 12 | 0 | TB | 0 | Alstott,Mike | | Barber,Tiki | RB | NYG | 14 | 37 | STL | WR | Holt,Torry | | Owens,Terrell | WR | SF | 9 | 11 | CIN | WR | Johnson,Chad | | Ward,Hines | WR | PIT | 21 | 10 | HOU | WR | Johnson,Andre | | Mcmichael,Randy | TE | MIA | 23 | 15 | IND | TE | Pollard,Marcus | | Ferguson,Jason | DL | NYJ | 10 | 12 | GB | DL | Gbaja-Biamila,K | | Clemons,Duane | DL | CIN | 4 | 0 | NE | 0 | Seymour,Richard | | Pryce,Trevor | DL | DEN | 2 | 0 | PHI | 0 | Mcdougle,Jerome | | Harper,Niccholas | DB | IND | 13 | 4 | OAK | DB | Woodson,Charles | | Russell,Brian | DB | MIN | 10 | 7 | NO | DB | Bellamy,Jay | | Bly,Dre | DB | DET | 0 | 25 | NYG | DB | Williams,Shaun | | Bruschi,Tedy | LB | NE | 6 | 13 | DEN | LB | Wilson,Al | | Farrior,James | LB | PIT | 8 | 11 | MIN | LB | Claiborne,Chris | | Armstead,Jessie | LB | WAS | 6 | 10 | CIN | LB | Hardy,Kevin | | Vinatieri,Adam | PK | NE | 22 | 18 | ATL | PK | Feely,Jay | | St-Bears,Chi | ST | CHI | 12 | 8 | WAS | ST | St-Redskins,Was | | Ol-Texans,Hou | OL | HOU | 11 | 9 | SD | OL | Ol-Chargers,Sd | | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 203 | | | | | | | | 199 | | | | | | | | | | Del Boca Vista Puppet Masters | | Art of Monk | Pts | Team | Pos | Name | | Name | Pos | Team | Pts | -1 | OAK | QB | Tuiasosopo,Marq | | Pennington,Chad | QB | NYJ | 26 | 29 | GB | RB | Green,Ahman | | Lewis,Jamal | RB | BAL | 9 | 14 | SEA | RB | Alexander,Shaun | | McAllister,Deuce | RB | NO | 16 | 7 | NO | WR | Horn,Joe | | Driver,Donald | WR | GB | 7 | 16 | NYG | WR | Hilliard,Ike | | Gardner,Rod | WR | WAS | 2 | 12 | OAK | WR | Rice,Jerry | | Brown,Troy | WR | NE | 0 | 18 | ARI | TE | Jones,Freddie | | Jolley,Doug | TE | OAK | 0 | 20 | JAC | DL | Ayodele,Akin | | Peppers,Julius | DL | CAR | 8 | 8 | SEA | DL | Okeafor,Chike | | Carter,Andre | DL | SF | 0 | 20 | CAR | DL | Rucker,Michael | | Smith,Justin | DL | CIN | 6 | 25 | DEN | DB | Herndon,Kelly | | Brown,Eric | DB | HOU | 16 | 3 | SEA | DB | Hamlin,Ken | | Parrish,Tony | DB | SF | 18 | 9 | SEA | DB | Tongue,Reggie | | Wilson,Adrian | DB | ARI | 8 | 12 | GB | LB | Barnett,Nick | | Thornton,David | LB | IND | 11 | 12 | SD | LB | Moreno,Zeke | | Simmons,Brian | LB | CIN | 12 | 17 | NYJ | LB | Cowart,Sam | | Trotter,Jeremia | LB | WAS | 19 | 6 | CAR | PK | Kasay,John | | Cundiff,Billy | PK | DAL | 6 | 12 | ARI | ST | St-Cards,Ari | | St-Steelers,Pit | ST | PIT | 12 | 16 | CAR | OL | Ol-Panthers,Car | | Ol-Saints,No | OL | NO | 15 | 255 | | | | | | | | 191 | | | | | | | | | | Rolling Thunder | | Cowboys Homer | Pts | Team | Pos | Name | | Name | Pos | Team | Pts | 0 | CLE | DL | Brown,Courtney | | Culpepper,Daunte | QB | MIN | 27 | 0 | IND | TE | Clark,Dallas | | Davis,Stephen | RB | CAR | 15 | 6 | IND | LB | Morris,Rob | | Davis,Domanick | RB | HOU | 8 | 21 | DAL | DB | Woodson,Darren | | Burress,Plaxico | WR | PIT | 12 | 6 | SEA | OL | Ol-Seahawks,Sea | | Chambers,Chris | WR | MIA | 14 | 0 | BUF | DL | Schobel,Aaron | | Pinkston,Todd | WR | PHI | 3 | 12 | PHI | DB | Vincent,Troy | | Heap,Todd | TE | BAL | 20 | 7 | SF | RB | Hearst,Garrison | | Brackens,Tony | DL | JAC | 2 | 0 | KC | ST | St-Chiefs,Kc | | Berry,Bertrand | DL | DEN | 5 | 9 | DAL | DB | Newman,Terence | | Mcginest,Willie | DL | NE | 10 | 11 | BAL | LB | Hartwell,Edgerton | | Lassiter,Kwamie | DB | SD | 16 | 0 | TEN | WR | Mason,Derrick | | Stoutmire,Omar | DB | NYG | 29 | 4 | TB | DL | Sapp,Warren | | Grant,Deon | DB | CAR | 7 | 0 | NYJ | LB | Lewis,Mo | | Foreman,Jay | LB | HOU | 11 | 13 | STL | WR | Bruce,Isaac | | Simmons,Anthony | LB | SEA | 9 | 0 | BUF | WR | Moulds,Eric | | Mckinnon,Ronald | LB | ARI | 9 | 18 | SD | RB | Tomlinson,Ladainian | | Gramatica,Martin | PK | TB | 4 | 20 | PHI | QB | Mcnabb,Donovan | | St-Packers,Gb | ST | GB | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | Ol-Packers,Gb | OL | GB | 18 | 127 | | | | | | | | 219 | | | | | | | | | | RED=changed result GREEN=unchanged result
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| 28 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 535572315 Thu, Nov 06, 2003, 23:49
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Sorry for the late post. I was without internet connection Sunday Night - Tuesday and I've been extremely busy. You have until Saturday at midnight EST to fight any discrepencies...
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| 29 | IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO
ID: 458341415 Fri, Nov 07, 2003, 10:27
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cowboys homer, if you trow in the deal another wr instead of stinkworth it's a done deal. fred taylor + wr for westbrook + warrick
decide which wr you can sacrifice, than make the offer and i'll accept in that moment....bye.
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| 30 | Bags
ID: 269112610 Fri, Nov 07, 2003, 12:27
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Lazio a new trade has been sent to you. If you don't like the new WR in the deal let me know who you have in mind.
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| 31 | IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO
ID: 458341415 Fri, Nov 07, 2003, 22:49
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i've made 2 counteroffers....let me know if you accept....i definitely need a wr starting this week because i've porter injured and smith with the bye.....
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| 32 | Bags
ID: 269112610 Sat, Nov 08, 2003, 02:00
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Trade accepted! Lets see if everyone will let it fly.
The trade is as follows. Cowboys Homer recieve Westbrook, RB PHI Warrick, WR CIN
Italian Eagles recieve Taylor, RB JAX Chambers, WR MIA
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| 33 | IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO
ID: 1610787 Sat, Nov 08, 2003, 08:13
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how long does it take to be official? i need to know it because i need to put chambers in my lineup instead of warrick......
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| 34 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 401017718 Sat, Nov 08, 2003, 11:30
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Could I here the rationale behind this trade from both owners. Personally, I think this trade is lopsided, but I'm not sure its so lopsided to veto it. I've also had one other complaint...
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| 35 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 401017718 Sat, Nov 08, 2003, 16:49
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Ok. I've heard no further complaints and read Bags rationale. Trade approved...
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| 36 | Art of Monk
ID: 127392513 Sun, Nov 09, 2003, 00:48
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I guess, I should have checked here for trades. I believe the trade was lopsided as well, but not big deal. Did anyone else receive any offers from cowboy homer? Taylor is a 2nd tier RB, compared to westbrook a fourth of fifth tier, chambers is a third tier WR and warrick is a fourth or fifth tier. I don't understand the logic. Teams agreed no big deal, I just don't understand. I can't set my lineup on the site for some reason, so here we go pennington hambrick, lewis Driver, Gardner, robinson mili Stroud, peppers, smith wilson, brown, williams thorton, simmons, brown cundiff san diego ST giants OL
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| 37 | Bags
ID: 269112610 Sun, Nov 09, 2003, 16:45
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The thing with Taylor is he is a 2nd tier RB that no one wants. I've been trying to move him for "equal value" but no such luck. Anyway if you have a deal that will knock Lazio's socks off go for it, Taylor is his prob now.
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| 38 | Doug Sustainer
ID: 2730280 Sun, Nov 09, 2003, 19:39
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I was offered a deal by Bags of Taylor for Marshall Faulk (other players involved but those were the key 2)... but got the impression he was trying to trade for Faulk, not that his goal was to unload Taylor. I would have traded him Thomas or K Faulk (both better options than Westbrook IMHO) as well as one of my receivers (other than Moss) for Chambers... but oh well. Guess I just didn't undestand how desperately he was trying to offload Taylor that he'd take just about anything for him. Oh well!
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| 39 | Nerfherders
ID: 308512415 Mon, Nov 10, 2003, 15:33
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Wish he woulda talked to me. I have 3rd tier RB's coming out of my ears!
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| 40 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 431034212 Thu, Nov 13, 2003, 19:56
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Week 10 Results Cowboys Homer | | Nerfherders | Pts | Team | Pos | Name | | Name | Pos | Team | Pts | 39 | MIN | QB | Culpepper,Daunte | | Collins,Kerry | QB | NYG | 2 | 18 | HOU | RB | Davis,Domanick | | Williams,Moe | RB | MIN | 39 | 0 | CAR | RB | Davis,Stephen | | Pittman,Michael | RB | TB | 14 | 7 | CIN | WR | Warrick,Peter | | Brown,Tim | WR | OAK | 6 | 11 | PHI | WR | Pinkston,Todd | | Boston,David | WR | SD | 21 | 1 | PIT | WR | Burress,Plaxico | | Price,Peerless | WR | ATL | 6 | 15 | BAL | TE | Heap,Todd | | Miller,Billy | TE | HOU | 3 | 3 | MIN | DL | Williams,Kevin | | Mixon,Kenny | DL | MIN | 5 | 6 | KC | DL | Sims,Ryan | | Kalu,Ndukwe | DL | PHI | 9 | 4 | JAC | DL | Brackens,Tony | | Ellis,Greg | DL | DAL | 9 | 7 | TB | DB | Lynch,John | | James,Tory | DB | CIN | 5 | 18 | NYG | DB | Stoutmire,Omar | | Surtain,Patrick | DB | MIA | 0 | 10 | SD | DB | Lassiter,Kwamie | | Clements,Nate | DB | BUF | 12 | 17 | ARI | LB | Mckinnon,Ronald | | Seau,Junior | LB | MIA | 12 | 21 | SEA | LB | Simmons,Anthony | | Barton,Eric | LB | OAK | 16 | 15 | HOU | LB | Foreman,Jay | | Edwards,Donnie | LB | SD | 12 | 11 | TB | PK | Gramatica,Martin | | Edinger,Paul | PK | CHI | 8 | -8 | GB | ST | St-Packers,Gb | | St-Falcons,Atl | ST | ATL | -2 | 17 | GB | OL | Ol-Packers,Gb | | Ol-Chiefs,Kc | OL | KC | 10 | 212 | | | | | | | | 187 | | | | | | | | | | Sandwich Town Statics | | Art of Monk | Pts | Team | Pos | Name | | Name | Pos | Team | Pts | 15 | WAS | QB | Ramsey,Patrick | | Mili,Itula | TE | SEA | 5 | 11 | TEN | RB | George,Eddie | | Cundiff,Billy | PK | DAL | 9 | 8 | BUF | RB | Henry,Travis | | St-Steelers,Pit | ST | PIT | 30 | 11 | TEN | WR | Calico,Tyrone | | Thornton,David | LB | IND | 20 | 28 | NYJ | WR | Moss,Santana | | Brown,Eric | DB | HOU | 18 | 8 | SEA | WR | Jackson,Darrell | | Ol-Saints,No | OL | NO | 0 | 4 | NYJ | TE | Becht,Anthony | | Simmons,Brian | LB | CIN | 9 | 9 | NYJ | DL | Ellis,Shaun | | Trotter,Jeremia | LB | WAS | 9 | 19 | TEN | DL | Kearse,Jevon | | Parrish,Tony | DB | SF | 0 | 14 | NYG | DL | Strahan,Michael | | Pennington,Chad | QB | NYJ | 24 | 12 | SEA | DB | Trufant,Marcus | | Brown,Troy | WR | NE | 0 | 10 | ARI | DB | Jackson,Dexter | | Wilson,Adrian | DB | ARI | 8 | 7 | TB | DB | Barber,Ronde | | Smith,Justin | DL | CIN | 6 | 18 | KC | LB | Barber,Shawn | | Gardner,Rod | WR | WAS | 28 | 15 | PIT | LB | Bell,Kendrell | | Driver,Donald | WR | GB | 3 | 21 | BAL | LB | Lewis,Ray | | Carter,Andre | DL | SF | 0 | 16 | IND | PK | Vanderjagt,Mike | | Lewis,Jamal | RB | BAL | 15 | 26 | CAR | ST | St-Panthers,Car | | McAllister,Deuce | RB | NO | 0 | 7 | TB | OL | Ol-Bucs,Tb | | Peppers,Julius | DL | CAR | 4 | 259 | | | | | | | | 188 | | | | | | | | | | Birds of Prey | | beebop | Pts | Team | Pos | Name | | Name | Pos | Team | Pts | 12 | CIN | QB | Kitna,Jon | | Mcnair,Steve | QB | TEN | 20 | 0 | OAK | RB | Garner,Charlie | | Bryson,Shawn | RB | DET | 8 | 34 | KC | RB | Holmes,Priest | | Barber,Tiki | RB | NYG | 19 | 2 | BUF | WR | Shaw,Bobby | | Ward,Hines | WR | PIT | 24 | 8 | BAL | WR | Taylor,Travis | | Johnson,Kevin | WR | CLE | 1 | 7 | NYG | WR | Toomer,Amani | | Mccareins,Justin | WR | TEN | 14 | 27 | KC | TE | Gonzalez,Tony | | Mcmichael,Randy | TE | MIA | 6 | 0 | NYJ | DL | Abraham,John | | Ferguson,Jason | DL | NYJ | 9 | 8 | BAL | DL | Gregg,Kelly | | Clemons,Duane | DL | CIN | 8 | 25 | CHI | DL | Brown,Alex | | Jenkins,Kris | DL | CAR | 15 | 16 | BAL | DB | Reed,Edward | | Harper,Niccholas | DB | IND | 13 | 4 | BAL | DB | Baxter,Gary | | Russell,Brian | DB | MIN | 14 | 12 | MIN | DB | Williams,Brian | | Mccleon,Dexter | DB | KC | 4 | 16 | PHI | LB | Simoneau,Mark | | Fujita,Scott | LB | KC | 16 | 11 | TB | LB | Brooks,Derrick | | Taylor,Ben | LB | CLE | 6 | 8 | CHI | LB | Urlacher,Brian | | Farrior,James | LB | PIT | 15 | 14 | SEA | PK | Brown,Josh | | Mare,Olindo | PK | MIA | 2 | 12 | MIN | OL | Ol-Vikings,Min | | St-Bears,Chi | ST | CHI | 20 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | Ol-Texans,Hou | OL | HOU | 15 | 216 | | | | | | | | 229 | | | | | | | | | | Ike44 | | Long Beach Lightning | Pts | Team | Pos | Name | | Name | Pos | Team | Pts | -2 | STL | QB | Bulger,Marc | | Green,Trent | QB | KC | 32 | 0 | CIN | RB | Dillon,Corey | | Williams,Ricky | RB | MIA | 11 | 0 | TB | RB | Alstott,Mike | | Johnson,Rudi | RB | CIN | 33 | 7 | HOU | WR | Johnson,Andre | | Harrison,Marvin | WR | IND | 10 | 17 | CIN | WR | Johnson,Chad | | Smith,Jimmy | WR | JAC | 18 | 6 | STL | WR | Holt,Torry | | Boldin,Anquan | WR | ARI | 25 | 27 | IND | TE | Pollard,Marcus | | Franks,Bubba | TE | GB | 1 | 10 | KC | DL | Hicks,Eric | | Daniels,Phillip | DL | CHI | 8 | 1 | PHI | DL | Mcdougle,Jerome | | Ogunleye,Adewal | DL | MIA | 2 | 5 | GB | DL | Gbaja-Biamila,K | | Freeney,Dwight | DL | IND | 6 | 13 | NYG | DB | Williams,Shaun | | Doss,Michael | DB | IND | 15 | 10 | HOU | DB | Mccree,Marlon | | Jammer,Quentin | DB | SD | 14 | 16 | OAK | DB | Woodson,Charles | | Williams,Roy | DB | DAL | 8 | 12 | MIN | LB | Claiborne,Chris | | Diggs,Nail | LB | GB | 15 | 6 | CIN | LB | Hardy,Kevin | | Porter,Joey | LB | PIT | 15 | 9 | BUF | LB | Spikes,Takeo | | Arrington,Lavar | LB | WAS | 12 | 6 | ATL | PK | Feely,Jay | | Anderson,Gary | PK | TEN | 13 | 6 | WAS | ST | St-Redskins,Was | | St-Dolphins,Mia | ST | MIA | 22 | 20 | SD | OL | Ol-Chargers,Sd | | Ol-Rams,Stl | OL | STL | 6 | 169 | | | | | | | | 266 | | | | | | | | | | Del Boca Vista Puppet Masters | | Italian Eagles | Pts | Team | Pos | Name | | Name | Pos | Team | Pts | 8 | CLE | QB | Holcomb,Kelly | | Manning,Peyton | QB | IND | 19 | 15 | SEA | RB | Alexander,Shaun | | Taylor,Fred | RB | JAC | 27 | 34 | GB | RB | Green,Ahman | | James,Edgerrin | RB | IND | 12 | 3 | NYG | WR | Hilliard,Ike | | Glenn,Terry | WR | DAL | 2 | 8 | OAK | WR | Rice,Jerry | | Smith,Steve | WR | CAR | 23 | 3 | CHI | WR | White,Dez | | Shockey,Jeremy | TE | NYG | 12 | 17 | ARI | TE | Jones,Freddie | | Dingle,Adrian | DL | SD | 0 | 12 | CAR | DL | Rucker,Michael | | Carter,Kevin | DL | TEN | 1 | 22 | JAC | DL | Ayodele,Akin | | Douglas,Marques | DL | BAL | 7 | 7 | DET | DL | Hall,James | | Chavous,Corey | DB | MIN | 5 | 17 | SEA | DB | Hamlin,Ken | | Coleman,Marcus | DB | HOU | 8 | 10 | WAS | DB | Bowen,Matt | | Scott,Chad | DB | PIT | 6 | 6 | SEA | DB | Tongue,Reggie | | Jones,Dhani | LB | NYG | 7 | 25 | NYJ | LB | Cowart,Sam | | Barrow,Mike | LB | NYG | 10 | 10 | GB | LB | Barnett,Nick | | Sharper,Jamie | LB | HOU | 26 | 48 | CLE | LB | Davis,Andra | | Wilkins,Jeff | PK | STL | 28 | 18 | CAR | PK | Kasay,John | | St-Texans,Hou | ST | HOU | 24 | -3 | ARI | ST | St-Cards,Ari | | Ol-Colts,Ind | OL | IND | 10 | 8 | CAR | OL | Ol-Panthers,Car | | Chambers,Chris | WR | MIA | 5 | 268 | | | | | | | | 232 | | | | | | | | | | Rolling Thunder | | Furious Midget Klingon Horde | Pts | Team | Pos | Name | | Name | Pos | Team | Pts | 21 | PHI | QB | Mcnabb,Donovan | | Carter,Quincy | QB | DAL | 10 | 0 | MIN | RB | Smith,Onterrio | | Faulk,Marshall | RB | STL | 19 | 38 | SD | RB | Tomlinson,Ladainian | | Thomas,Anthony | RB | CHI | 6 | 15 | TEN | WR | Mason,Derrick | | Moss,Randy | WR | MIN | 29 | 3 | STL | WR | Bruce,Isaac | | Wayne,Reggie | WR | IND | 10 | 8 | BUF | WR | Moulds,Eric | | Mccardell,Keenan | WR | TB | 26 | 10 | IND | TE | Clark,Dallas | | Taylor,Jason | DL | MIA | 8 | 3 | CLE | DL | Brown,Courtney | | Rice,Simeon | DL | TB | 23 | 8 | TB | DL | Sapp,Warren | | Johnstone,Lance | DL | MIN | 10 | 16 | ATL | DL | Kerney,Patrick | | Warfield,Eric | DB | KC | 13 | 8 | DAL | DB | Woodson,Darren | | Wesley,Greg | DB | KC | 17 | 10 | PHI | DB | Vincent,Troy | | Sharper,Darren | DB | GB | 15 | 13 | DAL | DB | Newman,Terence | | Bulluck,Keith | LB | TEN | 26 | 8 | BAL | LB | Hartwell,Edgerton | | Draft,Chris | LB | ATL | 31 | 17 | ATL | LB | Brooking,Keith | | Thomas,Robert | LB | STL | 17 | 9 | IND | LB | Morris,Rob | | Janikowski,Sebastian | PK | OAK | 10 | 4 | GB | PK | Longwell,Ryan | | St-Lions,Det | ST | DET | 0 | 12 | KC | ST | St-Chiefs,Kc | | Ol-Cowboys,Dal | OL | DAL | 12 | 9 | BAL | OL | Ol-Ravens,Bal | | Sharpe,Shannon | TE | DEN | 0 | 212 | | | | | | | | 282 | | | | | | | | | | RED=changed result GREEN=unchanged result
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| 41 | Bags
ID: 269112610 Sun, Nov 16, 2003, 19:16
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So Westbrook and Warrick had better games than Taylor and Chambers. I only wish I had a bigger sack and started Westbrook. :-(
Just to defend myself here, I feel Westbrook and Warrick will have a better finish to the season than Taylor and Chambers. I'm not saying that because W&W had a better week 11 than T&C.
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| 42 | IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO
ID: 458341415 Sun, Nov 16, 2003, 20:01
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yeah, i was just thinking the same, but i obviously wish the opposite. anyway i've a 50 points margin over the Art of monk, and i benched a fantastic dunn once again. i started the season with 3 crappy RB near edge, now i've 3 great options......if i could only choose the right one sometime......
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| 43 | Nerfherders
ID: 308512415 Thu, Nov 20, 2003, 16:28
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Are we going to get final scoring for week 11?
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| 44 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 431034212 Fri, Nov 21, 2003, 00:37
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Week 11 - Final Results Cowboys Homer | | Furious Midget Klingon Horde | Pts | Team | Pos | Name | | Name | Pos | Team | Pts | 18 | MIN | QB | Culpepper,Daunte | | Carter,Quincy | QB | DAL | 2 | 18 | CAR | RB | Davis,Stephen | | Faulk,Marshall | RB | STL | 15 | 12 | HOU | RB | Davis,Domanick | | Thomas,Anthony | RB | CHI | 15 | 24 | CIN | WR | Warrick,Peter | | Moss,Randy | WR | MIN | 6 | 1 | NO | WR | Stallworth,Donte | | Johnson,Keyshawn | WR | TB | 6 | 9 | DEN | WR | Lelie,Ashley | | Mccardell,Keenan | WR | TB | 16 | 0 | NO | TE | Conwell,Ernie | | Sharpe,Shannon | TE | DEN | 45 | 17 | MIN | DL | Williams,Kevin | | Rice,Simeon | DL | TB | 5 | 12 | NE | DL | Mcginest,Willie | | Taylor,Jason | DL | MIA | 16 | 6 | KC | DL | Sims,Ryan | | Johnstone,Lance | DL | MIN | 3 | 13 | TB | DB | Lynch,John | | Sharper,Darren | DB | GB | 19 | 12 | NYG | DB | Stoutmire,Omar | | Warfield,Eric | DB | KC | 9 | 8 | SD | DB | Lassiter,Kwamie | | Wesley,Greg | DB | KC | 21 | 0 | SEA | LB | Simmons,Anthony | | Bulluck,Keith | LB | TEN | 26 | 14 | HOU | LB | Foreman,Jay | | Draft,Chris | LB | ATL | 17 | 8 | ARI | LB | Mckinnon,Ronald | | Thomas,Robert | LB | STL | 16 | 12 | TB | PK | Gramatica,Martin | | Janikowski,Sebastian | PK | OAK | 8 | 0 | CLE | ST | St-Browns,Cle | | St-Lions,Det | ST | DET | 10 | 18 | GB | OL | Ol-Packers,Gb | | Ol-Niners,Sf | OL | SF | 18 | 202 | | | | | | | | 273 | | | | | | | | | | Italian Eagles | | Art of Monk | Pts | Team | Pos | Name | | Name | Pos | Team | Pts | 22 | IND | QB | Manning,Peyton | | Pennington,Chad | QB | NYJ | 26 | 3 | ARI | RB | Shipp,Marcel | | Lewis,Jamal | RB | BAL | 5 | 39 | IND | RB | James,Edgerrin | | McAllister,Deuce | RB | NO | 38 | 7 | MIA | WR | Chambers,Chris | | Gardner,Rod | WR | WAS | 4 | 9 | CAR | WR | Smith,Steve | | Driver,Donald | WR | GB | 3 | 18 | DEN | WR | Smith,Rod | | Morton,Johnnie | WR | KC | 16 | 6 | BAL | DL | Douglas,Marques | | Mili,Itula | TE | SEA | 9 | 2 | TEN | DL | Carter,Kevin | | Peppers,Julius | DL | CAR | 7 | 0 | SD | DL | Dingle,Adrian | | Smith,Justin | DL | CIN | 3 | 15 | NE | DB | Poole,Tyrone | | Carter,Andre | DL | SF | 8 | 23 | MIN | DB | Chavous,Corey | | Archuleta,Adam | DB | STL | 10 | 10 | PIT | DB | Scott,Chad | | Brown,Eric | DB | HOU | 11 | 7 | NYG | LB | Jones,Dhani | | Parrish,Tony | DB | SF | 17 | 11 | NYG | LB | Barrow,Mike | | Thornton,David | LB | IND | 16 | 33 | HOU | LB | Sharper,Jamie | | Simmons,Brian | LB | CIN | 13 | 21 | STL | PK | Wilkins,Jeff | | Brown,Chad | LB | SEA | 13 | 4 | HOU | ST | St-Texans,Hou | | Cundiff,Billy | PK | DAL | 0 | 18 | IND | OL | Ol-Colts,Ind | | St-Chargers,Sd | ST | SD | 20 | 20 | MIN | TE | Kleinsasser,Jimmy | | Ol-Saints,No | OL | NO | 11 | 268 | | | | | | | | 230 | | | | | | | | | | Birds of Prey | | Long Beach Lightning | Pts | Team | Pos | Name | | Name | Pos | Team | Pts | 21 | CIN | QB | Kitna,Jon | | Green,Trent | QB | KC | 24 | 0 | OAK | 0 | Garner,Charlie | | Portis,Clinton | RB | DEN | 12 | 13 | KC | RB | Holmes,Priest | | Williams,Ricky | RB | MIA | 15 | 0 | SF | 0 | Streets,Tai | | Boldin,Anquan | WR | ARI | 12 | 2 | BAL | WR | Taylor,Travis | | Smith,Jimmy | WR | JAC | 1 | 11 | NYG | WR | Toomer,Amani | | Coles,Laveranues | WR | WAS | 7 | 30 | KC | TE | Gonzalez,Tony | | Franks,Bubba | TE | GB | 0 | 14 | CHI | DL | Brown,Alex | | Daniels,Phillip | DL | CHI | 9 | 12 | NO | DL | Grant,Charles | | Ogunleye,Adewal | DL | MIA | 16 | 12 | BAL | DL | Gregg,Kelly | | Freeney,Dwight | DL | IND | 8 | 25 | MIN | DB | Williams,Brian | | Plummer,Ahmed | DB | SF | 27 | 15 | NE | DB | Harrison,Rodney | | Doss,Michael | DB | IND | 5 | 27 | BAL | DB | Reed,Edward | | Williams,Roy | DB | DAL | 7 | 11 | PHI | LB | Simoneau,Mark | | Peterson,Julian | LB | SF | 10 | 13 | TB | LB | Brooks,Derrick | | Diggs,Nail | LB | GB | 14 | 13 | CHI | LB | Urlacher,Brian | | Arrington,Lavar | LB | WAS | 10 | 10 | SEA | PK | Brown,Josh | | Anderson,Gary | PK | TEN | 7 | 14 | NO | ST | St-Saints,No | | St-Dolphins,Mia | ST | MIA | 10 | 8 | MIN | OL | Ol-Vikings,Min | | Ol-Rams,Stl | OL | STL | 9 | 251 | | | | | | | | 203 | | | | | | | | | | Ike44 | | Nerfherders | Pts | Team | Pos | Name | | Name | Pos | Team | Pts | 15 | STL | QB | Bulger,Marc | | Collins,Kerry | QB | NYG | 13 | 0 | CLE | 0 | Green,William | | Williams,Moe | RB | MIN | 17 | 3 | CLE | RB | White,Jamel | | Pittman,Michael | RB | TB | 7 | 27 | STL | WR | Holt,Torry | | Kennison,Eddie | WR | KC | 14 | 14 | CIN | WR | Johnson,Chad | | Boston,David | WR | SD | 3 | 22 | HOU | WR | Johnson,Andre | | Price,Peerless | WR | ATL | 3 | 0 | IND | 0 | Pollard,Marcus | | Smith,L.j. | TE | PHI | 7 | 14 | GB | DL | Gbaja-Biamila,K | | Mixon,Kenny | DL | MIN | 8 | 5 | KC | DL | Hicks,Eric | | Kalu,Ndukwe | DL | PHI | 15 | 15 | NE | DL | Seymour,Richard | | Ellis,Greg | DL | DAL | 10 | 17 | OAK | DB | Woodson,Charles | | James,Tory | DB | CIN | 14 | 7 | NYG | DB | Williams,Shaun | | Clements,Nate | DB | BUF | 6 | 17 | NO | DB | Bellamy,Jay | | Thomas,Fred | DB | NO | 25 | 6 | MIN | LB | Claiborne,Chris | | Thomas,Zach | LB | MIA | 15 | 8 | DEN | LB | Wilson,Al | | Barton,Eric | LB | OAK | 13 | 17 | BUF | LB | Spikes,Takeo | | Edwards,Donnie | LB | SD | 31 | 13 | ATL | PK | Feely,Jay | | Carney,John | PK | NO | 17 | 4 | WAS | ST | St-Redskins,Was | | St-Falcons,Atl | ST | ATL | 10 | 16 | OAK | OL | Ol-Raiders,Oak | | Ol-Chiefs,Kc | OL | KC | 9 | 220 | | | | | | | | 237 | | | | | | | | | | Del Boca Vista Puppet Masters | | Sandwich Town Statics | Pts | Team | Pos | Name | | Name | Pos | Team | Pts | 33 | CLE | QB | Holcomb,Kelly | | Brooks,Aaron | QB | NO | 6 | 24 | SEA | RB | Alexander,Shaun | | George,Eddie | RB | TEN | 7 | 20 | GB | RB | Green,Ahman | | Henry,Travis | RB | BUF | 15 | 5 | NO | WR | Horn,Joe | | Calico,Tyrone | WR | TEN | 4 | 3 | OAK | WR | Rice,Jerry | | Moss,Santana | WR | NYJ | 15 | 1 | GB | WR | Walker,Javon | | Jackson,Darrell | WR | SEA | 9 | 4 | ARI | TE | Jones,Freddie | | Becht,Anthony | TE | NYJ | 1 | 8 | CAR | DL | Rucker,Michael | | Ellis,Shaun | DL | NYJ | 15 | 10 | JAC | DL | Ayodele,Akin | | Kearse,Jevon | DL | TEN | 1 | 6 | DET | DL | Hall,James | | Strahan,Michael | DL | NYG | 2 | 12 | SEA | DB | Hamlin,Ken | | Trufant,Marcus | DB | SEA | 11 | 14 | DEN | DB | Herndon,Kelly | | Winfield,Antoine | DB | BUF | 19 | 23 | WAS | DB | Bowen,Matt | | Barber,Ronde | DB | TB | 22 | 15 | NYJ | LB | Cowart,Sam | | Lewis,Ray | LB | BAL | 20 | 32 | GB | LB | Barnett,Nick | | Barber,Shawn | LB | KC | 17 | 13 | CLE | LB | Davis,Andra | | Harris,Napoleon | LB | OAK | 21 | 12 | CAR | PK | Kasay,John | | Vanderjagt,Mike | PK | IND | 15 | 18 | ARI | ST | St-Cards,Ari | | St-Panthers,Car | ST | CAR | 4 | 13 | CAR | OL | Ol-Panthers,Car | | Ol-Bucs,Tb | OL | TB | 13 | 266 | | | | | | | | 217 | | | | | | | | | | Rolling Thunder | | beebop | Pts | Team | Pos | Name | | Name | Pos | Team | Pts | 13 | CLE | DL | Brown,Courtney | | Johnson,Brad | QB | TB | 2 | 25 | IND | TE | Clark,Dallas | | Bryson,Shawn | RB | DET | 11 | 5 | IND | LB | Morris,Rob | | Barber,Tiki | RB | NYG | 22 | 9 | BAL | OL | Ol-Ravens,Bal | | Owens,Terrell | WR | SF | 29 | 13 | DAL | DB | Woodson,Darren | | Ward,Hines | WR | PIT | 8 | 14 | GB | PK | Longwell,Ryan | | Mccareins,Justin | WR | TEN | 11 | 29 | PHI | DB | Vincent,Troy | | Mcmichael,Randy | TE | MIA | 2 | 9 | KC | ST | St-Chiefs,Kc | | Jenkins,Kris | DL | CAR | 21 | 8 | DAL | DB | Newman,Terence | | Ferguson,Jason | DL | NYJ | 7 | 0 | MIN | RB | Smith,Onterrio | | Clemons,Duane | DL | CIN | 2 | 13 | BAL | LB | Hartwell,Edgerton | | Mccleon,Dexter | DB | KC | 11 | 14 | TEN | WR | Mason,Derrick | | Russell,Brian | DB | MIN | 23 | 4 | TB | DL | Sapp,Warren | | Bailey,Champ | DB | WAS | 22 | 14 | STL | WR | Bruce,Isaac | | Fujita,Scott | LB | KC | 11 | 19 | ATL | DL | Kerney,Patrick | | Farrior,James | LB | PIT | 20 | 25 | ATL | LB | Brooking,Keith | | Bruschi,Tedy | LB | NE | 14 | 0 | BUF | WR | Moulds,Eric | | Vinatieri,Adam | PK | NE | 8 | 7 | SD | RB | Tomlinson,Ladainian | | St-Bears,Chi | ST | CHI | 32 | 24 | PHI | QB | Mcnabb,Donovan | | Ol-Texans,Hou | OL | HOU | 5 | 245 | | | | | | | | 261 | [if supportMisalignedColumns] | | | | | | | | | [endif] RED=changed result GREEN=unchanged result
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| 45 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 431034212 Fri, Nov 21, 2003, 00:38
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Guys, you know I post the standings at the first possible chance I get...so there really is no point of asking if the standings will be posted. Out of all due respect, if they arent fast enough, feel free to post them yourselves...
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| 46 | IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO
ID: 458341415 Sun, Nov 23, 2003, 19:43
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so, what's up guys? 4 lineups not posted......is this league still alive or has somebody lost interest in it? i personally enjoy playing with you, but this kind of things make me think.
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| 47 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 431034212 Tue, Nov 25, 2003, 15:06
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LAZIO, 3 of those 4 lineups were actually submitted but for whatever reason the site was having problems. I receive an email after each submission and for 3 of those 4 teams lineups were submitted (mine included).
Week 12 Results Furious Midget Klingon Horde | | Long Beach Lightning | Pts | Team | Pos | Name | | Name | Pos | Team | Pts | 19 | DAL | QB | Carter,Quincy | | Green,Trent | QB | KC | 16 | 6 | CHI | RB | Thomas,Anthony | | Williams,Ricky | RB | MIA | 25 | 24 | STL | RB | Faulk,Marshall | | Portis,Clinton | RB | DEN | 21 | 10 | MIN | WR | Moss,Randy | | Boldin,Anquan | WR | ARI | 32 | 7 | IND | WR | Wayne,Reggie | | Coles,Laveranues | WR | WAS | 16 | 7 | CLE | WR | Davis,Andre | | Smith,Jimmy | WR | JAC | 12 | 13 | DEN | TE | Sharpe,Shannon | | Franks,Bubba | TE | GB | 2 | 12 | TB | DL | Rice,Simeon | | Ogunleye,Adewal | DL | MIA | 8 | 19 | MIA | DL | Taylor,Jason | | Freeney,Dwight | DL | IND | 13 | 0 | MIN | DL | Johnstone,Lance | | Hayward,Reggie | DL | DEN | 2 | 12 | GB | DB | Sharper,Darren | | Plummer,Ahmed | DB | SF | 9 | 8 | KC | DB | Wesley,Greg | | Doss,Michael | DB | IND | 8 | 11 | WAS | DB | Ohalete,Ifeanyi | | Williams,Roy | DB | DAL | 11 | 8 | TEN | LB | Bulluck,Keith | | Arrington,Lavar | LB | WAS | 10 | 22 | ATL | LB | Draft,Chris | | Diggs,Nail | LB | GB | 21 | 12 | STL | LB | Thomas,Robert | | Peterson,Julian | LB | SF | 21 | 12 | OAK | PK | Janikowski,Sebastian | | Elam,Jason | PK | DEN | 6 | 20 | DET | ST | St-Lions,Det | | St-Dolphins,Mia | ST | MIA | 8 | 5 | SF | OL | Ol-Niners,Sf | | Ol-Rams,Stl | OL | STL | 9 | 227 | | | | | | | | 250 | | | | | | | | | | Art of Monk | | Nerfherders | Pts | Team | Pos | Name | | Name | Pos | Team | Pts | 12 | NYJ | QB | Pennington,Chad | | Smith,L.j. | TE | PHI | 6 | 18 | BAL | RB | Lewis,Jamal | | James,Tory | DB | CIN | 29 | 38 | NO | RB | McAllister,Deuce | | Williams,Moe | RB | MIN | 9 | 2 | WAS | WR | Gardner,Rod | | St-Falcons,Atl | ST | ATL | 18 | 7 | GB | WR | Driver,Donald | | Clements,Nate | DB | BUF | 11 | 16 | SEA | WR | Robinson,Koren | | Mixon,Kenny | DL | MIN | 2 | 14 | SEA | TE | Mili,Itula | | Thomas,Fred | DB | NO | 4 | 12 | CAR | DL | Peppers,Julius | | Pittman,Michael | RB | TB | 9 | 11 | SF | DL | Carter,Andre | | Carney,John | PK | NO | 4 | 10 | CIN | DL | Smith,Justin | | Kalu,Ndukwe | DL | PHI | 15 | 8 | STL | DB | Archuleta,Adam | | Collins,Kerry | QB | NYG | -4 | 19 | SF | DB | Parrish,Tony | | Ol-Chiefs,Kc | OL | KC | 16 | 29 | ARI | DB | Wilson,Adrian | | Kennison,Eddie | WR | KC | 7 | 6 | SEA | LB | Brown,Chad | | Ellis,Greg | DL | DAL | 5 | 17 | WAS | LB | Trotter,Jeremia | | Boston,David | WR | SD | 34 | 7 | CIN | LB | Simmons,Brian | | Thomas,Zach | LB | MIA | 18 | 10 | DAL | PK | Cundiff,Billy | | Barton,Eric | LB | OAK | 16 | 30 | SD | ST | St-Chargers,Sd | | Edwards,Donnie | LB | SD | 31 | 17 | NO | OL | Ol-Saints,No | | Price,Peerless | WR | ATL | 19 | 283 | | | | | | | | 249 | | | | | | | | | | beebop | | Cowboys Homer | Pts | Team | Pos | Name | | Name | Pos | Team | Pts | 12 | TEN | QB | Mcnair,Steve | | Culpepper,Daunte | QB | MIN | 8 | 5 | DET | RB | Bryson,Shawn | | Westbrook,Brian | RB | PHI | 18 | 13 | NYG | RB | Barber,Tiki | | Davis,Stephen | RB | CAR | 12 | 15 | SF | WR | Owens,Terrell | | Warrick,Peter | WR | CIN | 4 | 2 | PIT | WR | Ward,Hines | | Burress,Plaxico | WR | PIT | 3 | 17 | TEN | WR | Mccareins,Justin | | Northcutt,Dennis | WR | CLE | 5 | 6 | MIA | TE | Mcmichael,Randy | | Heap,Todd | TE | BAL | 5 | 0 | CAR | DL | Jenkins,Kris | | Mcginest,Willie | DL | NE | 17 | 8 | NYJ | DL | Ferguson,Jason | | Weaver,Anthony | DL | BAL | 0 | 12 | OAK | DL | Coleman,Roderic | | Williams,Kevin | DL | MIN | 5 | 11 | WAS | DB | Bailey,Champ | | Schulters,Lance | DB | TEN | 13 | 20 | MIN | DB | Russell,Brian | | Stoutmire,Omar | DB | NYG | 13 | 16 | IND | DB | Harper,Niccholas | | Lynch,John | DB | TB | 20 | 27 | PIT | LB | Farrior,James | | Mckinnon,Ronald | LB | ARI | 20 | 20 | KC | LB | Fujita,Scott | | Fletcher,London | LB | BUF | 32 | 9 | NE | LB | Bruschi,Tedy | | Foreman,Jay | LB | HOU | 33 | 17 | NE | PK | Vinatieri,Adam | | Gramatica,Martin | PK | TB | 8 | 24 | CHI | ST | St-Bears,Chi | | St-Browns,Cle | ST | CLE | 18 | 9 | CHI | OL | Ol-Bears,Chi | | Ol-Packers,Gb | OL | GB | 17 | 243 | | | | | | | | 251 | | | | | | | | | | Italian Eagles | | Sandwich Town Statics | Pts | Team | Pos | Name | | Name | Pos | Team | Pts | 11 | IND | QB | Manning,Peyton | | Brooks,Aaron | QB | NO | 11 | 8 | JAC | RB | Taylor,Fred | | Barlow,Kevan | RB | SF | 1 | 28 | IND | RB | James,Edgerrin | | George,Eddie | RB | TEN | 19 | 7 | MIA | WR | Chambers,Chris | | Calico,Tyrone | WR | TEN | 0 | 12 | DAL | WR | Glenn,Terry | | Moss,Santana | WR | NYJ | 9 | 23 | DEN | WR | Smith,Rod | | Jackson,Darrell | WR | SEA | 33 | 5 | MIN | TE | Kleinsasser,Jimmy | | Crumpler,Alge | TE | ATL | 5 | 9 | BAL | DL | Douglas,Marques | | Ellis,Shaun | DL | NYJ | 10 | 17 | TEN | DL | Carter,Kevin | | Wiley,Marcellus | DL | SD | 17 | 5 | STL | DL | Young,Brian | | Strahan,Michael | DL | NYG | 20 | 15 | NE | DB | Poole,Tyrone | | Jackson,Dexter | DB | ARI | 6 | 23 | MIN | DB | Chavous,Corey | | Winfield,Antoine | DB | BUF | 23 | 18 | HOU | DB | Coleman,Marcus | | Barber,Ronde | DB | TB | 7 | 12 | DAL | LB | Nguyen,Dat | | Lewis,Ray | LB | BAL | 30 | 7 | NE | LB | Phifer,Roman | | Harris,Napoleon | LB | OAK | 10 | 37 | HOU | LB | Sharper,Jamie | | Barber,Shawn | LB | KC | 17 | 20 | STL | PK | Wilkins,Jeff | | Vanderjagt,Mike | PK | IND | 4 | 13 | HOU | ST | St-Texans,Hou | | St-Panthers,Car | ST | CAR | 6 | 15 | DEN | OL | Ol-Broncos,Den | | Ol-Bucs,Tb | OL | TB | 9 | 285 | | | | | | | | 237 | | | | | | | | | | Ike44 | | Birds of Prey | Pts | Team | Pos | Name | | Name | Pos | Team | Pts | 5 | STL | QB | Bulger,Marc | | Canidate,Trung | RB | WAS | 15 | 9 | CLE | RB | White,Jamel | | Williams,Brian | DB | MIN | 38 | 24 | NE | DL | Seymour,Richard | | Brown,Alex | DL | CHI | 9 | 8 | OAK | DB | Woodson,Charles | | Gregg,Kelly | DL | BAL | 13 | 4 | KC | DL | Hicks,Eric | | Brown,Josh | PK | SEA | 22 | 6 | WAS | ST | St-Redskins,Was | | Simoneau,Mark | LB | PHI | 17 | 12 | SD | OL | Ol-Chargers,Sd | | Ol-Vikings,Min | OL | MIN | 10 | 14 | ATL | PK | Feely,Jay | | Kitna,Jon | QB | CIN | 31 | 13 | HOU | WR | Johnson,Andre | | Streets,Tai | WR | SF | 5 | 8 | MIN | LB | Claiborne,Chris | | Taylor,Travis | WR | BAL | 8 | 0 | IND | TE | Pollard,Marcus | | St-Saints,No | ST | NO | 4 | 17 | DEN | LB | Wilson,Al | | Grant,Charles | DL | NO | 15 | 0 | NYG | DB | Williams,Shaun | | Harrison,Rodney | DB | NE | 26 | 13 | GB | DL | Gbaja-Biamila,K | | Toomer,Amani | WR | NYG | 7 | 38 | CIN | WR | Johnson,Chad | | Gonzalez,Tony | TE | KC | 11 | 10 | NO | DB | Bellamy,Jay | | Brooks,Derrick | LB | TB | 5 | 15 | BUF | LB | Spikes,Takeo | | Reed,Edward | DB | BAL | 13 | 23 | STL | WR | Holt,Torry | | Urlacher,Brian | LB | CHI | 15 | 11 | CIN | RB | Dillon,Corey | | Holmes,Priest | RB | KC | 31 | 230 | | | | | | | | 295 | | | | | | | | | | Rolling Thunder | | Del Boca Vista Puppet Masters | Pts | Team | Pos | Name | | Name | Pos | Team | Pts | 11 | CLE | DL | Brown,Courtney | | Rattay,Tim | QB | SF | 8 | 6 | IND | TE | Clark,Dallas | | Martin,Curtis | RB | NYJ | 17 | 13 | BAL | OL | Ol-Ravens,Bal | | Alexander,Shaun | RB | SEA | 8 | 11 | DAL | DB | Woodson,Darren | | Horn,Joe | WR | NO | 11 | 14 | GB | PK | Longwell,Ryan | | Rice,Jerry | WR | OAK | 13 | 9 | PHI | DB | Vincent,Troy | | Walker,Javon | WR | GB | 13 | 14 | KC | ST | St-Chiefs,Kc | | Jones,Freddie | TE | ARI | 4 | 14 | DAL | DB | Newman,Terence | | Rucker,Michael | DL | CAR | 7 | 0 | MIN | RB | Smith,Onterrio | | Ayodele,Akin | DL | JAC | 11 | 9 | BAL | LB | Hartwell,Edgerton | | Hall,James | DL | DET | 8 | 8 | TEN | WR | Mason,Derrick | | Tongue,Reggie | DB | SEA | 2 | 28 | TB | DL | Sapp,Warren | | Hamlin,Ken | DB | SEA | 11 | 8 | NYJ | LB | Lewis,Mo | | Bowen,Matt | DB | WAS | 5 | 22 | STL | WR | Bruce,Isaac | | Cowart,Sam | LB | NYJ | 11 | 8 | ATL | DL | Kerney,Patrick | | Moreno,Zeke | LB | SD | 16 | 26 | ATL | LB | Brooking,Keith | | Barnett,Nick | LB | GB | 4 | 6 | BUF | WR | Moulds,Eric | | Kasay,John | PK | CAR | 15 | 23 | SD | RB | Tomlinson,Ladainian | | St-Cards,Ari | ST | ARI | 8 | 21 | PHI | QB | Mcnabb,Donovan | | Ol-Panthers,Car | OL | CAR | 9 | 251 | | | | | | | | 181 | | | | | | | | | | RED=changed result GREEN=unchanged result
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| 48 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 431034212 Tue, Nov 25, 2003, 15:12
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I should also point out that the 1 roster that wasnt set last week was because he was away. He has already set his lineup for this week...
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| 49 | wiggs Donor
ID: 4991311 Tue, Nov 25, 2003, 15:19
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that line up was mine, I was just coming to post. I went out of town last week on thursday. I planned on setting it from there, but they had computer issues and I didnt get a chance. I apologize.
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| 50 | IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO
ID: 458341415 Wed, Nov 26, 2003, 18:54
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glad to hear this ap10, i couldn't know what happened, so i supposed the wrong thing...... anyway, sharper is a beast!!!
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| 51 | Nerfherders
ID: 308512415 Mon, Dec 01, 2003, 17:21
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Hi all. It's been pretty dead here so I thought I would start a discussion on rule change I would like to see.
I propose that we remove the restriction on keepers that requires us to take 4 on offense and 4 on defense. We should be able to keep any 8 players from our team. I know that in my case there is just about nobody on offense that I want to keep. My offense is horrible. However, I could easily take 6 or 7 keepers on defense: players that would otherwise be taken in the first few rounds of the draft.
If the restriction will not be lifted, there should be more incentive to NOT keep players. Move the compensatory picks up in the draft. Maybe starting at round 12?
Here is an example of my options for keepers on offense:
Jeff Garcia: What happened to this guy? He's been hurt, and he hasn't played well. Probably not worth keeping when guys like Favre, Kitna, Brady will be available. David Boston: Probably worth keeping Peerless Price: worthless Kennison: nearly worthless Staley: passed over in PHI after his holdout Pittman: never scores Moe Williams: very good, but a second back in MN LJ Smith: upside, but not great Miller: Good, but no great KC OL: My best offensive player! LOL
I'm sure there are other managers here who have the same dilemma, either on offense or defense. We should be allowed to build our teams however we like. If we want to build on defense, so be it.
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| 52 | IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO
ID: 3951204 Tue, Dec 02, 2003, 06:49
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i'm pretty ok on offense, because i'll surely keep manning, edge, taylor and shockey. i've probably #1 or 2 on TE and QB and a great combo at RB......just can't pass anyone of them. i'll have to drop all my WR anyway, and it'll be a huge drop since steve smith, rod and chambers are all good options.
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| 53 | Art of Monk
ID: 210541917 Tue, Dec 02, 2003, 13:17
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interesting idea, but I would have liked it better last year. I don't think I would support this year because I would liked it last year and that will change for everyone year to year. I like how the league is setup that you are not rewarded for not keeping 8. Whatever the league decides because it is not a huge deal either way. If we can keep any 8 players we might want to cap how many you could keep at a certain position.
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| 54 | Doug Sustainer
ID: 31649212 Wed, Dec 03, 2003, 12:18
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Personally I prefer the way it is set up now. If you think you have more quality defensive keepers than you need, you might consider trying to trade one or more of them to a team with a weak defense in exchange for a keeper-worthy offensive player. You could probably deal with a non-playoff contender now, or with just about anyone during the offseason. That would be my personal preference for dealing with your type of situation (rather than changing the rule).
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| 55 | wiggs Donor
ID: 310442923 Wed, Dec 03, 2003, 15:42
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I like it 4 and 4 too. I had to give up some players last year I would have liked to have kept, so this year I drafted smarter. I dont think we can change the rules as we go.
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| 56 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 431034212 Thu, Dec 04, 2003, 15:33
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Week 13 Results Nerfherders | | Long Beach Lightning | Pts | Team | Pos | Name | | Name | Pos | Team | Pts | -8 | SF | QB | Garcia,Jeff | | Green,Trent | QB | KC | 12 | 16 | MIN | RB | Williams,Moe | | Portis,Clinton | RB | DEN | 32 | 8 | TB | RB | Pittman,Michael | | Williams,Ricky | RB | MIA | 15 | 3 | KC | WR | Kennison,Eddie | | Harrison,Marvin | WR | IND | 21 | 19 | SD | WR | Boston,David | | Boldin,Anquan | WR | ARI | 7 | 8 | ATL | WR | Price,Peerless | | Coles,Laveranues | WR | WAS | 14 | 4 | PHI | TE | Smith,L.j. | | Franks,Bubba | TE | GB | 16 | 10 | MIN | DL | Mixon,Kenny | | Freeney,Dwight | DL | IND | 12 | 3 | DAL | DL | Ellis,Greg | | Ogunleye,Adewal | DL | MIA | 21 | 41 | STL | DL | Little,Leonard | | Daniels,Phillip | DL | CHI | 18 | 6 | CIN | DB | James,Tory | | Plummer,Ahmed | DB | SF | 21 | 21 | NO | DB | Thomas,Fred | | Doss,Michael | DB | IND | 18 | 2 | BUF | DB | Clements,Nate | | Williams,Roy | DB | DAL | 16 | 26 | MIA | LB | Thomas,Zach | | Peterson,Julian | LB | SF | 1 | 25 | OAK | LB | Barton,Eric | | Arrington,Lavar | LB | WAS | 6 | 20 | SD | LB | Edwards,Donnie | | Diggs,Nail | LB | GB | 9 | 10 | NO | PK | Carney,John | | Anderson,Gary | PK | TEN | 9 | 16 | ATL | ST | St-Falcons,Atl | | St-Dolphins,Mia | ST | MIA | 2 | 19 | KC | OL | Ol-Chiefs,Kc | | Ol-Rams,Stl | OL | STL | 18 | 242 | | | | | | | | 271 | | | | | | | | | | Art of Monk | | Furious Midget Klingon Horde | Pts | Team | Pos | Name | | Name | Pos | Team | Pts | 16 | NYJ | QB | Pennington,Chad | | Carter,Quincy | QB | DAL | 15 | 13 | BAL | RB | Lewis,Jamal | | Faulk,Marshall | RB | STL | 33 | 23 | NO | RB | McAllister,Deuce | | Faulk,Kevin | RB | NE | 9 | 6 | WAS | WR | Gardner,Rod | | Moss,Randy | WR | MIN | 29 | 8 | GB | WR | Driver,Donald | | Wayne,Reggie | WR | IND | 12 | 18 | SEA | WR | Robinson,Koren | | Mccardell,Keenan | WR | TB | 15 | 7 | SEA | TE | Mili,Itula | | Sharpe,Shannon | TE | DEN | 12 | 4 | CAR | DL | Peppers,Julius | | Rice,Simeon | DL | TB | 9 | 3 | SF | DL | Carter,Andre | | Taylor,Jason | DL | MIA | 18 | 10 | CIN | DL | Smith,Justin | | Holliday,Vonnie | DL | KC | 8 | 9 | HOU | DB | Brown,Eric | | Wesley,Greg | DB | KC | 20 | 14 | ARI | DB | Wilson,Adrian | | Warfield,Eric | DB | KC | 6 | 33 | STL | DB | Archuleta,Adam | | Ohalete,Ifeanyi | DB | WAS | 5 | 20 | IND | LB | Thornton,David | | Bulluck,Keith | LB | TEN | 18 | 11 | SEA | LB | Brown,Chad | | Draft,Chris | LB | ATL | 18 | 6 | DAL | PK | Cundiff,Billy | | Peterson,Mike | LB | JAC | 21 | 24 | SD | ST | St-Chargers,Sd | | Janikowski,Sebastian | PK | OAK | 12 | 19 | NO | OL | Ol-Saints,No | | St-Lions,Det | ST | DET | 0 | 27 | WAS | LB | Trotter,Jeremia | | Ol-Niners,Sf | OL | SF | 10 | 267 | | | | | | | | 276 | | | | | | | | | | Sandwich Town Statics | | Cowboys Homer | Pts | Team | Pos | Name | | Name | Pos | Team | Pts | 23 | NO | QB | Brooks,Aaron | | Culpepper,Daunte | QB | MIN | 20 | 13 | ATL | RB | Duckett,T.j. | | Davis,Domanick | RB | HOU | 26 | 18 | BUF | RB | Henry,Travis | | Davis,Stephen | RB | CAR | 11 | 6 | DAL | WR | Galloway,Joey | | Warrick,Peter | WR | CIN | 10 | 11 | NYJ | WR | Moss,Santana | | Burress,Plaxico | WR | PIT | 19 | 30 | SEA | WR | Jackson,Darrell | | Lelie,Ashley | WR | DEN | 0 | 0 | NYJ | TE | Becht,Anthony | | Heap,Todd | TE | BAL | 11 | 5 | NYJ | DL | Ellis,Shaun | | Williams,Kevin | DL | MIN | 2 | 4 | SD | DL | Wiley,Marcellus | | Mcginest,Willie | DL | NE | 7 | 13 | NYG | DL | Strahan,Michael | | Sims,Ryan | DL | KC | 2 | 10 | BUF | DB | Winfield,Antoine | | Schulters,Lance | DB | TEN | 11 | 2 | SEA | DB | Trufant,Marcus | | Stoutmire,Omar | DB | NYG | 12 | 11 | TB | DB | Barber,Ronde | | Lynch,John | DB | TB | 7 | 47 | BAL | LB | Lewis,Ray | | Fletcher,London | LB | BUF | 15 | 21 | KC | LB | Barber,Shawn | | Foreman,Jay | LB | HOU | 16 | 13 | PIT | LB | Bell,Kendrell | | Mckinnon,Ronald | LB | ARI | 24 | 18 | IND | PK | Vanderjagt,Mike | | Gramatica,Martin | PK | TB | 8 | 16 | CAR | ST | St-Panthers,Car | | St-Packers,Gb | ST | GB | 26 | 7 | TB | OL | Ol-Bucs,Tb | | Ol-Packers,Gb | OL | GB | 6 | 266 | | | | | | | | 225 | | | | | | | | | | Italian Eagles | | beebop | Pts | Team | Pos | Name | | Name | Pos | Team | Pts | 29 | IND | QB | Manning,Peyton | | Fujita,Scott | LB | KC | 19 | 5 | ARI | RB | Shipp,Marcel | | Russell,Brian | DB | MIN | 28 | 21 | IND | RB | James,Edgerrin | | Ferguson,Jason | DL | NYJ | 0 | 13 | DAL | WR | Glenn,Terry | | Mccareins,Justin | WR | TEN | 20 | 32 | MIA | WR | Chambers,Chris | | Farrior,James | LB | PIT | 12 | 3 | DEN | WR | Smith,Rod | | Bruschi,Tedy | LB | NE | 25 | 25 | MIN | TE | Kleinsasser,Jimmy | | Harper,Niccholas | DB | IND | 29 | 2 | STL | DL | Young,Brian | | Ol-Bears,Chi | OL | CHI | 16 | 4 | BAL | DL | Douglas,Marques | | St-Bears,Chi | ST | CHI | -4 | 4 | TEN | DL | Carter,Kevin | | Jenkins,Kris | DL | CAR | 12 | 6 | MIN | DB | Chavous,Corey | | Vinatieri,Adam | PK | NE | 16 | 32 | HOU | DB | Coleman,Marcus | | Mcmichael,Randy | TE | MIA | 6 | 9 | PIT | DB | Scott,Chad | | Bailey,Champ | DB | WAS | 8 | 13 | DAL | LB | Nguyen,Dat | | Mcnair,Steve | QB | TEN | 16 | 20 | NYG | LB | Barrow,Mike | | Coleman,Roderic | DL | OAK | 11 | 21 | HOU | LB | Sharper,Jamie | | Ward,Hines | WR | PIT | 33 | 23 | STL | PK | Wilkins,Jeff | | Barber,Tiki | RB | NYG | 3 | 8 | HOU | ST | St-Texans,Hou | | Owens,Terrell | WR | SF | 5 | 16 | DEN | OL | Ol-Broncos,Den | | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 285 | | | | | | | | 266 | | | | | | | | | | Del Boca Vista Puppet Masters | | Birds of Prey | Pts | Team | Pos | Name | | Name | Pos | Team | Pts | 1 | CLE | QB | Holcomb,Kelly | | Kitna,Jon | QB | CIN | 29 | 21 | SEA | RB | Alexander,Shaun | | Canidate,Trung | RB | WAS | 12 | 10 | GB | RB | Green,Ahman | | Holmes,Priest | RB | KC | 34 | 4 | NO | WR | Horn,Joe | | Streets,Tai | 0 | SF | 0 | 15 | CHI | WR | White,Dez | | Taylor,Travis | WR | BAL | 5 | 15 | GB | WR | Walker,Javon | | Toomer,Amani | WR | NYG | 20 | 18 | ARI | TE | Jones,Freddie | | Gonzalez,Tony | TE | KC | 21 | 28 | CAR | DL | Rucker,Michael | | Brown,Alex | DL | CHI | 7 | 9 | JAC | DL | Ayodele,Akin | | Gregg,Kelly | DL | BAL | 13 | 6 | DET | DL | Hall,James | | Grant,Charles | DL | NO | 13 | 15 | WAS | DB | Bowen,Matt | | Williams,Brian | DB | MIN | 6 | 14 | KC | DB | Woods,Jerome | | Harrison,Rodney | DB | NE | 1 | 15 | DEN | DB | Herndon,Kelly | | Reed,Edward | DB | BAL | 4 | 15 | SD | LB | Moreno,Zeke | | Simoneau,Mark | LB | PHI | 16 | 32 | CLE | LB | Davis,Andra | | Jones,Marvin | LB | NYJ | 12 | 20 | NYJ | LB | Cowart,Sam | | Urlacher,Brian | LB | CHI | 18 | 6 | CAR | PK | Kasay,John | | Brown,Josh | PK | SEA | 19 | 26 | ARI | ST | St-Cards,Ari | | St-Saints,No | ST | NO | 13 | 13 | CAR | OL | Ol-Panthers,Car | | Ol-Falcons,Atl | OL | ATL | 8 | 276 | | | | | | | | 247 | | | | | | | | | | Rolling Thunder | | Ike44 | Pts | Team | Pos | Name | | Name | Pos | Team | Pts | 10 | PHI | QB | Mcnabb,Donovan | | Bulger,Marc | QB | STL | 18 | 22 | SD | RB | Tomlinson,Ladainian | | Dillon,Corey | RB | CIN | 5 | 6 | SF | RB | Hearst,Garrison | | White,Jamel | RB | CLE | 11 | 11 | BUF | WR | Moulds,Eric | | Johnson,Andre | WR | HOU | 4 | 15 | STL | WR | Bruce,Isaac | | Johnson,Chad | WR | CIN | 23 | 30 | TEN | WR | Mason,Derrick | | Holt,Torry | WR | STL | 18 | 5 | IND | TE | Clark,Dallas | | Pollard,Marcus | TE | IND | 17 | 4 | CLE | DL | Brown,Courtney | | Seymour,Richard | DL | NE | 9 | 2 | TB | DL | Sapp,Warren | | Hicks,Eric | DL | KC | 4 | 20 | ATL | DL | Kerney,Patrick | | Gbaja-Biamila,K | DL | GB | 5 | 14 | OAK | DB | Buchanon,Philli | | Woodson,Charles | DB | OAK | 20 | 13 | PHI | DB | Vincent,Troy | | Williams,Shaun | 0 | NYG | 0 | 17 | DAL | DB | Newman,Terence | | Bellamy,Jay | DB | NO | 10 | 5 | IND | LB | Morris,Rob | | Claiborne,Chris | 0 | MIN | 0 | 21 | BAL | LB | Hartwell,Edgerton | | Wilson,Al | LB | DEN | 6 | 18 | ATL | LB | Brooking,Keith | | Spikes,Takeo | LB | BUF | 22 | 4 | GB | PK | Longwell,Ryan | | Feely,Jay | PK | ATL | 13 | 16 | DAL | ST | St-Cowboys,Dal | | St-Redskins,Was | ST | WAS | 18 | 14 | BAL | OL | Ol-Ravens,Bal | | Ol-Chargers,Sd | OL | SD | 17 | 244 | | | | | | | | 211 | | | | | | | | | | RED=changed result GREEN=unchanged result
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ID: 431034212 Thu, Dec 04, 2003, 15:38
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Week 13 Results Nerfherders | | Long Beach Lightning | Pts | Team | Pos | Name | | Name | Pos | Team | Pts | -8 | SF | QB | Garcia,Jeff | | Green,Trent | QB | KC | 12 | 16 | MIN | RB | Williams,Moe | | Portis,Clinton | RB | DEN | 32 | 8 | TB | RB | Pittman,Michael | | Williams,Ricky | RB | MIA | 15 | 3 | KC | WR | Kennison,Eddie | | Harrison,Marvin | WR | IND | 21 | 19 | SD | WR | Boston,David | | Boldin,Anquan | WR | ARI | 7 | 8 | ATL | WR | Price,Peerless | | Coles,Laveranues | WR | WAS | 14 | 4 | PHI | TE | Smith,L.j. | | Franks,Bubba | TE | GB | 16 | 10 | MIN | DL | Mixon,Kenny | | Freeney,Dwight | DL | IND | 12 | 3 | DAL | DL | Ellis,Greg | | Ogunleye,Adewal | DL | MIA | 21 | 41 | STL | DL | Little,Leonard | | Daniels,Phillip | DL | CHI | 18 | 6 | CIN | DB | James,Tory | | Plummer,Ahmed | DB | SF | 21 | 21 | NO | DB | Thomas,Fred | | Doss,Michael | DB | IND | 18 | 2 | BUF | DB | Clements,Nate | | Williams,Roy | DB | DAL | 16 | 26 | MIA | LB | Thomas,Zach | | Peterson,Julian | LB | SF | 1 | 25 | OAK | LB | Barton,Eric | | Arrington,Lavar | LB | WAS | 6 | 20 | SD | LB | Edwards,Donnie | | Diggs,Nail | LB | GB | 9 | 10 | NO | PK | Carney,John | | Anderson,Gary | PK | TEN | 9 | 16 | ATL | ST | St-Falcons,Atl | | St-Dolphins,Mia | ST | MIA | 2 | 19 | KC | OL | Ol-Chiefs,Kc | | Ol-Rams,Stl | OL | STL | 18 | 249 | | | | | | | | 268 | | | | | | | | | | Art of Monk | | Furious Midget Klingon Horde | Pts | Team | Pos | Name | | Name | Pos | Team | Pts | 16 | NYJ | QB | Pennington,Chad | | Carter,Quincy | QB | DAL | 15 | 13 | BAL | RB | Lewis,Jamal | | Faulk,Marshall | RB | STL | 33 | 23 | NO | RB | McAllister,Deuce | | Faulk,Kevin | RB | NE | 9 | 6 | WAS | WR | Gardner,Rod | | Moss,Randy | WR | MIN | 29 | 8 | GB | WR | Driver,Donald | | Wayne,Reggie | WR | IND | 12 | 18 | SEA | WR | Robinson,Koren | | Mccardell,Keenan | WR | TB | 15 | 7 | SEA | TE | Mili,Itula | | Sharpe,Shannon | TE | DEN | 12 | 4 | CAR | DL | Peppers,Julius | | Rice,Simeon | DL | TB | 9 | 3 | SF | DL | Carter,Andre | | Taylor,Jason | DL | MIA | 18 | 10 | CIN | DL | Smith,Justin | | Holliday,Vonnie | DL | KC | 8 | 9 | HOU | DB | Brown,Eric | | Wesley,Greg | DB | KC | 20 | 14 | ARI | DB | Wilson,Adrian | | Warfield,Eric | DB | KC | 6 | 33 | STL | DB | Archuleta,Adam | | Ohalete,Ifeanyi | DB | WAS | 5 | 20 | IND | LB | Thornton,David | | Bulluck,Keith | LB | TEN | 18 | 11 | SEA | LB | Brown,Chad | | Draft,Chris | LB | ATL | 18 | 6 | DAL | PK | Cundiff,Billy | | Peterson,Mike | LB | JAC | 21 | 24 | SD | ST | St-Chargers,Sd | | Janikowski,Sebastian | PK | OAK | 12 | 19 | NO | OL | Ol-Saints,No | | St-Lions,Det | ST | DET | 0 | 27 | WAS | LB | Trotter,Jeremia | | Ol-Niners,Sf | OL | SF | 10 | 271 | | | | | | | | 270 | | | | | | | | | | Sandwich Town Statics | | Cowboys Homer | Pts | Team | Pos | Name | | Name | Pos | Team | Pts | 23 | NO | QB | Brooks,Aaron | | Culpepper,Daunte | QB | MIN | 20 | 13 | ATL | RB | Duckett,T.j. | | Davis,Domanick | RB | HOU | 26 | 18 | BUF | RB | Henry,Travis | | Davis,Stephen | RB | CAR | 11 | 6 | DAL | WR | Galloway,Joey | | Warrick,Peter | WR | CIN | 10 | 11 | NYJ | WR | Moss,Santana | | Burress,Plaxico | WR | PIT | 19 | 30 | SEA | WR | Jackson,Darrell | | Lelie,Ashley | WR | DEN | 0 | 0 | NYJ | TE | Becht,Anthony | | Heap,Todd | TE | BAL | 11 | 5 | NYJ | DL | Ellis,Shaun | | Williams,Kevin | DL | MIN | 2 | 4 | SD | DL | Wiley,Marcellus | | Mcginest,Willie | DL | NE | 7 | 13 | NYG | DL | Strahan,Michael | | Sims,Ryan | DL | KC | 2 | 10 | BUF | DB | Winfield,Antoine | | Schulters,Lance | DB | TEN | 11 | 2 | SEA | DB | Trufant,Marcus | | Stoutmire,Omar | DB | NYG | 12 | 11 | TB | DB | Barber,Ronde | | Lynch,John | DB | TB | 7 | 47 | BAL | LB | Lewis,Ray | | Fletcher,London | LB | BUF | 15 | 21 | KC | LB | Barber,Shawn | | Foreman,Jay | LB | HOU | 16 | 13 | PIT | LB | Bell,Kendrell | | Mckinnon,Ronald | LB | ARI | 24 | 18 | IND | PK | Vanderjagt,Mike | | Gramatica,Martin | PK | TB | 8 | 16 | CAR | ST | St-Panthers,Car | | St-Packers,Gb | ST | GB | 26 | 7 | TB | OL | Ol-Bucs,Tb | | Ol-Packers,Gb | OL | GB | 6 | 268 | | | | | | | | 233 | | | | | | | | | | Italian Eagles | | beebop | Pts | Team | Pos | Name | | Name | Pos | Team | Pts | 29 | IND | QB | Manning,Peyton | | Fujita,Scott | LB | KC | 19 | 5 | ARI | RB | Shipp,Marcel | | Russell,Brian | DB | MIN | 28 | 21 | IND | RB | James,Edgerrin | | Ferguson,Jason | DL | NYJ | 0 | 13 | DAL | WR | Glenn,Terry | | Mccareins,Justin | WR | TEN | 20 | 32 | MIA | WR | Chambers,Chris | | Farrior,James | LB | PIT | 12 | 3 | DEN | WR | Smith,Rod | | Bruschi,Tedy | LB | NE | 25 | 25 | MIN | TE | Kleinsasser,Jimmy | | Harper,Niccholas | DB | IND | 29 | 2 | STL | DL | Young,Brian | | Ol-Bears,Chi | OL | CHI | 16 | 4 | BAL | DL | Douglas,Marques | | St-Bears,Chi | ST | CHI | -4 | 4 | TEN | DL | Carter,Kevin | | Jenkins,Kris | DL | CAR | 12 | 6 | MIN | DB | Chavous,Corey | | Vinatieri,Adam | PK | NE | 16 | 32 | HOU | DB | Coleman,Marcus | | Mcmichael,Randy | TE | MIA | 6 | 9 | PIT | DB | Scott,Chad | | Bailey,Champ | DB | WAS | 8 | 13 | DAL | LB | Nguyen,Dat | | Mcnair,Steve | QB | TEN | 16 | 20 | NYG | LB | Barrow,Mike | | Coleman,Roderic | DL | OAK | 11 | 21 | HOU | LB | Sharper,Jamie | | Ward,Hines | WR | PIT | 33 | 23 | STL | PK | Wilkins,Jeff | | Barber,Tiki | RB | NYG | 3 | 8 | HOU | ST | St-Texans,Hou | | Owens,Terrell | WR | SF | 5 | 16 | DEN | OL | Ol-Broncos,Den | | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 286 | | | | | | | | 255 | | | | | | | | | | Del Boca Vista Puppet Masters | | Birds of Prey | Pts | Team | Pos | Name | | Name | Pos | Team | Pts | 1 | CLE | QB | Holcomb,Kelly | | Kitna,Jon | QB | CIN | 29 | 21 | SEA | RB | Alexander,Shaun | | Canidate,Trung | RB | WAS | 12 | 10 | GB | RB | Green,Ahman | | Holmes,Priest | RB | KC | 34 | 4 | NO | WR | Horn,Joe | | Streets,Tai | 0 | SF | 0 | 15 | CHI | WR | White,Dez | | Taylor,Travis | WR | BAL | 5 | 15 | GB | WR | Walker,Javon | | Toomer,Amani | WR | NYG | 20 | 18 | ARI | TE | Jones,Freddie | | Gonzalez,Tony | TE | KC | 21 | 28 | CAR | DL | Rucker,Michael | | Brown,Alex | DL | CHI | 7 | 9 | JAC | DL | Ayodele,Akin | | Gregg,Kelly | DL | BAL | 13 | 6 | DET | DL | Hall,James | | Grant,Charles | DL | NO | 13 | 15 | WAS | DB | Bowen,Matt | | Williams,Brian | DB | MIN | 6 | 14 | KC | DB | Woods,Jerome | | Harrison,Rodney | DB | NE | 1 | 15 | DEN | DB | Herndon,Kelly | | Reed,Edward | DB | BAL | 4 | 15 | SD | LB | Moreno,Zeke | | Simoneau,Mark | LB | PHI | 16 | 32 | CLE | LB | Davis,Andra | | Jones,Marvin | LB | NYJ | 12 | 20 | NYJ | LB | Cowart,Sam | | Urlacher,Brian | LB | CHI | 18 | 6 | CAR | PK | Kasay,John | | Brown,Josh | PK | SEA | 19 | 26 | ARI | ST | St-Cards,Ari | | St-Saints,No | ST | NO | 13 | 13 | CAR | OL | Ol-Panthers,Car | | Ol-Falcons,Atl | OL | ATL | 8 | 283 | | | | | | | | 251 | | | | | | | | | | Rolling Thunder | | Ike44 | Pts | Team | Pos | Name | | Name | Pos | Team | Pts | 10 | PHI | QB | Mcnabb,Donovan | | Bulger,Marc | QB | STL | 18 | 22 | SD | RB | Tomlinson,Ladainian | | Dillon,Corey | RB | CIN | 5 | 6 | SF | RB | Hearst,Garrison | | White,Jamel | RB | CLE | 11 | 11 | BUF | WR | Moulds,Eric | | Johnson,Andre | WR | HOU | 4 | 15 | STL | WR | Bruce,Isaac | | Johnson,Chad | WR | CIN | 23 | 30 | TEN | WR | Mason,Derrick | | Holt,Torry | WR | STL | 18 | 5 | IND | TE | Clark,Dallas | | Pollard,Marcus | TE | IND | 17 | 4 | CLE | DL | Brown,Courtney | | Seymour,Richard | DL | NE | 9 | 2 | TB | DL | Sapp,Warren | | Hicks,Eric | DL | KC | 4 | 20 | ATL | DL | Kerney,Patrick | | Gbaja-Biamila,K | DL | GB | 5 | 14 | OAK | DB | Buchanon,Philli | | Woodson,Charles | DB | OAK | 20 | 13 | PHI | DB | Vincent,Troy | | Williams,Shaun | 0 | NYG | 0 | 17 | DAL | DB | Newman,Terence | | Bellamy,Jay | DB | NO | 10 | 5 | IND | LB | Morris,Rob | | Claiborne,Chris | 0 | MIN | 0 | 21 | BAL | LB | Hartwell,Edgerton | | Wilson,Al | LB | DEN | 6 | 18 | ATL | LB | Brooking,Keith | | Spikes,Takeo | LB | BUF | 22 | 4 | GB | PK | Longwell,Ryan | | Feely,Jay | PK | ATL | 13 | 16 | DAL | ST | St-Cowboys,Dal | | St-Redskins,Was | ST | WAS | 18 | 14 | BAL | OL | Ol-Ravens,Bal | | Ol-Chargers,Sd | OL | SD | 17 | 247 | | | | | | | | 220 | | | | | | | | | | RED=changed result GREEN=unchanged result
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ID: 431034212 Thu, Dec 04, 2003, 15:45
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There was one outcome that was affected. Please check your scores!
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| 59 | dgrooves
ID: 12831011 Fri, Dec 05, 2003, 12:27
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Bags, I just wanted to let you know that I just received your trade offer and I will need a little time to think it over.
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| 60 | dgrooves
ID: 421150118 Sat, Dec 06, 2003, 14:45
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Sorry Bags, but I'll have to decline. To me, Culpepper's value for the rest of the year isnt enough to offset the downgrades at the other positions. Plus Im not to excited about taking on all those contracts.
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| 61 | Bags
ID: 269112610 Sat, Dec 06, 2003, 19:28
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I can understand you rationale. Keep me in mind if you want to trade some people later.
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| 62 | Doug Sustainer
ID: 2730280 Sun, Dec 07, 2003, 04:32
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I set my lineup with Carter at QB, but I want to drop Delhomme and activate Vick, making Vick my starting QB this week. However, even if Derek processes the drop of Delhomme first thing in the AM, I will unlikely be able to make the change myself before the deadline. Anyway, I won't lose any sleep over it, but if my starting QB could be changed from Carter to Vick this week I would appreciate it.
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| 63 | Doug Sustainer
ID: 2730280 Sun, Dec 07, 2003, 05:20
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San Diego's ST scoring seems off to me... at least what I'm seeing in NFL.com's gamecenter "Game Stats" from last week...
189 Return Yards @ 2 points per 10 yards = 36 135 Ret. Yards Allowed @ -2 per 15 yards = -18
Total: 18 points
What am I missing here?
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| 64 | dgrooves
ID: 421150118 Sun, Dec 07, 2003, 13:03
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Doug, NFL.com's Gamebook only credits the Chiefs with 94 return yards. My guess is the Game Stats page is giving some of SD's L. Johnson return yards to KC's L. Johnson. That is confirmed in the Play-by-play log.
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| 65 | Doug Sustainer
ID: 2730280 Sun, Dec 07, 2003, 16:19
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Interesting... I see what you mean. I guess the website is just screwed up... thanks for the clarification.
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| 66 | Nerfherders
ID: 308512415 Tue, Dec 09, 2003, 19:32
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Correct me if I'm wrong but this is how I see the playoff seatings right now:
1. Sandwhich Town Statics 2. Puppet Masters 3. Long Beach Lightning 4. Italian Eagles
5. Birds of Prey 6. Cowboys Homer 7. Nerfherders 8. Klingon Hordes
9. wiggs 10. Art of Monk 11. Ike 12. beebop
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| 67 | Doug Sustainer
ID: 31649212 Tue, Dec 09, 2003, 19:54
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Just curious... am I going to credited for Michal Vick as requested (post #62) or not?
If not, next year I vote for a website that allows managers to set their own lineups... as I was unable to set Vick into my lineup on Saturday due to our website.
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ID: 431034212 Wed, Dec 10, 2003, 22:33
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Week 14 Final Results Nerfherders | | Furious Midget Klingon Horde | Pts | Team | Pos | Name | | Name | Pos | Team | Pts | 49 | SF | QB | Garcia,Jeff | | Vick, Michael | QB | ATL | 24 | 7 | MIN | RB | Williams,Moe | | Faulk,Marshall | RB | STL | 20 | 6 | TB | RB | Pittman,Michael | | Thomas,Anthony | RB | CHI | 2 | 17 | KC | WR | Kennison,Eddie | | Moss,Randy | WR | MIN | 33 | 10 | SD | WR | Boston,David | | Mccardell,Keenan | WR | TB | 14 | 9 | ATL | WR | Price,Peerless | | Wayne,Reggie | WR | IND | 3 | 9 | HOU | TE | Miller,Billy | | Sharpe,Shannon | TE | DEN | 20 | 2 | MIN | DL | Mixon,Kenny | | Taylor,Jason | DL | MIA | 13 | 20 | PHI | DL | Kalu,Ndukwe | | Rice,Simeon | DL | TB | 31 | 19 | STL | DL | Little,Leonard | | Holliday,Vonnie | DL | KC | 1 | 10 | CIN | DB | James,Tory | | Wesley,Greg | DB | KC | 10 | 10 | NO | DB | Thomas,Fred | | Ohalete,Ifeanyi | DB | WAS | 9 | 8 | PHI | DB | Dawkins,Brian | | Sharper,Darren | DB | GB | 13 | 15 | MIA | LB | Thomas,Zach | | Draft,Chris | LB | ATL | 9 | 21 | OAK | LB | Barton,Eric | | Bulluck,Keith | LB | TEN | 23 | 22 | SD | LB | Edwards,Donnie | | Thomas,Robert | LB | STL | 0 | 2 | NO | PK | Carney,John | | Janikowski,Sebastian | PK | OAK | 2 | 6 | ATL | ST | St-Falcons,Atl | | St-Lions,Det | ST | DET | 6 | 9 | KC | OL | Ol-Chiefs,Kc | | Ol-Niners,Sf | OL | SF | 22 | 251 | | | | | | | | 255 | | | | | | | | | | Art of Monk | | Long Beach Lightning | Pts | Team | Pos | Name | | Name | Pos | Team | Pts | 3 | NYJ | QB | Pennington,Chad | | Green,Trent | QB | KC | 27 | 33 | BAL | RB | Lewis,Jamal | | Williams,Ricky | RB | MIA | 7 | 10 | NO | RB | McAllister,Deuce | | Portis,Clinton | RB | DEN | 56 | 7 | SEA | WR | Robinson,Koren | | Boldin,Anquan | WR | ARI | 24 | 1 | GB | WR | Driver,Donald | | Smith,Jimmy | WR | JAC | 14 | 7 | KC | WR | Morton,Johnnie | | Harrison,Marvin | WR | IND | 22 | 1 | SEA | TE | Mili,Itula | | Clark,Desmond | TE | CHI | 6 | 5 | JAC | DL | Stroud,Marcus | | Hayward,Reggie | DL | DEN | 2 | 13 | CIN | DL | Smith,Justin | | Ogunleye,Adewal | DL | MIA | 23 | 16 | CAR | DL | Peppers,Julius | | Freeney,Dwight | DL | IND | 10 | 4 | STL | DB | Archuleta,Adam | | Plummer,Ahmed | DB | SF | 9 | 17 | SF | DB | Parrish,Tony | | Jammer,Quentin | DB | SD | 11 | 8 | ARI | DB | Wilson,Adrian | | Doss,Michael | DB | IND | 16 | 18 | IND | LB | Thornton,David | | Diggs,Nail | LB | GB | 13 | 3 | CIN | LB | Simmons,Brian | | Porter,Joey | LB | PIT | 8 | 21 | WAS | LB | Trotter,Jeremia | | Arrington,Lavar | LB | WAS | 26 | 6 | DAL | PK | Cundiff,Billy | | Anderson,Gary | PK | TEN | 14 | 12 | SD | ST | St-Chargers,Sd | | St-Dolphins,Mia | ST | MIA | 10 | 4 | NO | OL | Ol-Saints,No | | Ol-Rams,Stl | OL | STL | 9 | 189 | | | | | | | | 307 | | | | | | | | | | Sandwich Town Statics | | beebop | Pts | Team | Pos | Name | | Name | Pos | Team | Pts | 6 | NO | QB | Brooks,Aaron | | Mcnair,Steve | QB | TEN | 31 | 23 | SF | RB | Barlow,Kevan | | Bennett,Michael | RB | MIN | 13 | 20 | BUF | RB | Henry,Travis | | Barber,Tiki | RB | NYG | 13 | 14 | BAL | WR | Robinson,Marcus | | Mccareins,Justin | WR | TEN | 8 | 11 | NYJ | WR | Moss,Santana | | Ward,Hines | WR | PIT | 10 | 12 | SEA | WR | Jackson,Darrell | | Owens,Terrell | WR | SF | 28 | 3 | NYJ | TE | Becht,Anthony | | Mcmichael,Randy | TE | MIA | 0 | 13 | NYJ | DL | Ellis,Shaun | | Jenkins,Kris | DL | CAR | 4 | 4 | SD | DL | Wiley,Marcellus | | Coleman,Roderic | DL | OAK | 7 | 31 | NYG | DL | Strahan,Michael | | Clemons,Duane | DL | CIN | 7 | 13 | BUF | DB | Winfield,Antoine | | Russell,Brian | DB | MIN | 6 | 11 | SEA | DB | Trufant,Marcus | | Bly,Dre | DB | DET | 8 | 9 | TB | DB | Barber,Ronde | | Bailey,Champ | DB | WAS | 16 | 15 | KC | LB | Barber,Shawn | | Farrior,James | LB | PIT | 9 | 16 | PIT | LB | Bell,Kendrell | | Fujita,Scott | LB | KC | 6 | 28 | BAL | LB | Lewis,Ray | | Bruschi,Tedy | LB | NE | 25 | 26 | IND | PK | Vanderjagt,Mike | | Vinatieri,Adam | PK | NE | 6 | 12 | CAR | ST | St-Panthers,Car | | St-Bears,Chi | ST | CHI | 38 | 11 | TB | OL | Ol-Bucs,Tb | | Ol-Bears,Chi | OL | CHI | 6 | 278 | | | | | | | | 241 | | | | | | | | | | Italian Eagles | | Cowboys Homer | Pts | Team | Pos | Name | | Name | Pos | Team | Pts | 12 | IND | QB | Manning,Peyton | | Hasselbeck,Matt | QB | SEA | 2 | 22 | JAC | RB | Taylor,Fred | | Westbrook,Brian | RB | PHI | 16 | 24 | IND | RB | James,Edgerrin | | Davis,Stephen | RB | CAR | 14 | 3 | OAK | WR | Porter,Jerry | | Hakim,Az-Zahir | WR | DET | 0 | 13 | CAR | WR | Smith,Steve | | Warrick,Peter | WR | CIN | 23 | 18 | DEN | WR | Smith,Rod | | Burress,Plaxico | WR | PIT | 12 | 2 | MIN | TE | Kleinsasser,Jimmy | | Heap,Todd | TE | BAL | 3 | 9 | BAL | DL | Douglas,Marques | | Mcginest,Willie | DL | NE | 12 | 4 | SD | DL | Dingle,Adrian | | Williams,Kevin | DL | MIN | 8 | 12 | STL | DL | Young,Brian | | Brackens,Tony | DL | JAC | 18 | 10 | MIN | DB | Chavous,Corey | | Garnes,Sam | DB | NYJ | 17 | 22 | NE | DB | Law,Ty | | Stoutmire,Omar | DB | NYG | 17 | 9 | HOU | DB | Coleman,Marcus | | Lynch,John | DB | TB | 8 | 16 | NYG | LB | Barrow,Mike | | Mckinnon,Ronald | LB | ARI | 13 | 6 | NE | LB | Phifer,Roman | | Foreman,Jay | LB | HOU | 16 | 19 | HOU | LB | Sharper,Jamie | | Fletcher,London | LB | BUF | 26 | 21 | STL | PK | Wilkins,Jeff | | Andersen,Morten | PK | KC | 6 | 16 | HOU | ST | St-Texans,Hou | | St-Browns,Cle | ST | CLE | 22 | 22 | DEN | OL | Ol-Broncos,Den | | Ol-Packers,Gb | OL | GB | 11 | 260 | | | | | | | | 244 | | | | | | | | | | Del Boca Vista Puppet Masters | | Ike44 | Pts | Team | Pos | Name | | Name | Pos | Team | Pts | 9 | CHI | QB | Stewart,Kordell | | Bulger,Marc | QB | STL | 11 | 9 | SEA | RB | Alexander,Shaun | | Dillon,Corey | RB | CIN | 4 | 17 | GB | RB | Green,Ahman | | White,Jamel | RB | CLE | 23 | 20 | NO | WR | Horn,Joe | | Holt,Torry | WR | STL | 7 | 3 | NYG | WR | Hilliard,Ike | | Johnson,Chad | WR | CIN | 3 | 4 | CHI | WR | White,Dez | | Johnson,Andre | WR | HOU | 2 | 5 | ARI | TE | Jones,Freddie | | Pollard,Marcus | TE | IND | 8 | 11 | CAR | DL | Rucker,Michael | | Seymour,Richard | DL | NE | 14 | 10 | JAC | DL | Henderson,John | | Hicks,Eric | DL | KC | 14 | 11 | JAC | DL | Ayodele,Akin | | Gbaja-Biamila,K | DL | GB | 12 | 4 | SEA | DB | Tongue,Reggie | | Woodson,Charles | DB | OAK | 12 | 16 | SEA | DB | Hamlin,Ken | | Williams,Shaun | 0 | NYG | 0 | 5 | WAS | DB | Bowen,Matt | | Bellamy,Jay | DB | NO | 23 | 8 | NYJ | LB | Cowart,Sam | | Claiborne,Chris | LB | MIN | 8 | 8 | CLE | LB | Davis,Andra | | Wilson,Al | LB | DEN | 9 | 7 | CAR | LB | Witherspoon,Wil | | Spikes,Takeo | LB | BUF | 12 | 4 | CAR | PK | Kasay,John | | Feely,Jay | PK | ATL | 4 | 20 | ARI | ST | St-Cards,Ari | | St-Redskins,Was | ST | WAS | 0 | 10 | CAR | OL | Ol-Panthers,Car | | Ol-Chargers,Sd | OL | SD | 15 | 181 | | | | | | | | 181 | | | | | | | | | | Rolling Thunder | | Birds of Prey | Pts | Team | Pos | Name | | Name | Pos | Team | Pts | 29 | PHI | QB | Mcnabb,Donovan | | Brady,Tom | QB | NE | 6 | 17 | PIT | RB | Bettis,Jerome | | Canidate,Trung | RB | WAS | 7 | 43 | SD | RB | Tomlinson,Ladainian | | Holmes,Priest | RB | KC | 26 | 18 | TEN | WR | Mason,Derrick | | Shaw,Bobby | WR | BUF | 2 | 12 | STL | WR | Bruce,Isaac | | Taylor,Travis | WR | BAL | 9 | 3 | BUF | WR | Moulds,Eric | | Toomer,Amani | WR | NYG | 5 | 3 | CLE | DL | Brown,Courtney | | Gonzalez,Tony | TE | KC | 20 | 16 | BUF | DL | Schobel,Aaron | | Grant,Charles | DL | NO | 2 | 3 | TB | DL | Sapp,Warren | | Gregg,Kelly | DL | BAL | 7 | 21 | DAL | DB | Woodson,Darren | | Brown,Alex | DL | CHI | 2 | 4 | PHI | DB | Vincent,Troy | | Reed,Edward | DB | BAL | 11 | 13 | DAL | DB | Newman,Terence | | Harrison,Rodney | DB | NE | 28 | 8 | IND | LB | Morris,Rob | | Williams,Brian | DB | MIN | 17 | 5 | BAL | LB | Hartwell,Edgerton | | Urlacher,Brian | LB | CHI | 10 | 1 | NYJ | LB | Lewis,Mo | | Brooks,Derrick | LB | TB | 30 | 24 | GB | PK | Longwell,Ryan | | Simoneau,Mark | LB | PHI | 4 | 22 | DAL | ST | St-Cowboys,Dal | | Akers,David | PK | PHI | 16 | 18 | BAL | OL | Ol-Ravens,Bal | | St-Saints,No | ST | NO | 28 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | Ol-Vikings,Min | OL | MIN | 17 | 260 | | | | | | | | 247 | | | | | | | | | | RED=changed result GREEN=unchanged result
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| 69 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 431034212 Wed, Dec 10, 2003, 22:35
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2003 THKL Playoff Picture Fantasy Bowl | | Fantasy Bowl | | | | | | | 1 | Sandwich Town Statics | | Sandwich Town Statics | vs | Italian Eagles | 2 | Del Boca Vista Puppet Masters | | Del Boca Vista Puppet Masters | vs | Long Beach Lightning | 3 | Long Beach Lightning | | | | | 4 | Italian Eagles | | | | | | | | | | | .500 Bowl | | .500 Bowl | | | | | | | 5 | Birds of Prey | | Birds of Prey | vs | Nerfherders | 6 | Furious Midget Klingon Horde | | Furious Midget Klingon Horde | vs | Cowboys Homer | 7 | Cowboys Homer | | | | | 8 | Nerfherders | | | | | | | | | | | Toilet Bowl | | Toilet Bowl | | | | | | | 9 | Art of Monk | | Art of Monk | vs | Ike44 | 10 | Rolling Thunder | | Rolling Thunder | vs | beebop | 11 | beebop | | | | | 12 | Ike44 | | | | | | | | | | |
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| 70 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 431034212 Wed, Dec 10, 2003, 22:39
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Question...
Do we allow FA pickups once the regular season is over? There are a lot of claims placed (and I have not processed them) because I thought that we were not allowed to pickup players. However, I can not find this rule anywhere. Am I mistaken? If so, I will process the claims accordingly...
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| 71 | wiggs Donor
ID: 211116514 Wed, Dec 10, 2003, 23:06
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i dont see why not.
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| 72 | Nerfherders
ID: 308512415 Thu, Dec 11, 2003, 11:29
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Bah. I had that game won. I don't think anyone expects to get an IR activated less than 8 hours before game time with the way the website works.
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| 73 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 431034212 Thu, Dec 11, 2003, 11:38
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Well, theoretically you should. Just because the website can't handle it doesnt mean you cant do it. It was posted in the forum as public knowledge, unfortunately I didnt have a chance to get it changed. My apologies, but that is the only thing I see as fair...
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| 74 | Art of Monk
ID: 210541917 Thu, Dec 11, 2003, 17:39
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I agree, if posted before game time, what's the problem. I am just can't wait for next year's draft top 4 pick. 4 wins. I hope I can win 2 more games so i can atleast hit 6 wins. I sucked and I don't know why?
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| 75 | Nerfherders
ID: 308512415 Mon, Dec 15, 2003, 19:14
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Scoring call of the week:
In the Sunday night game between the Saints and Giants, a blocked field goal resulted in a 64 yard return for a touchdown.
My guy: Fred Thomas, who returned the blocked ball for the touchdown.
His guy: Saints Special Teams, who got credited with the block, and according to the website, the return. (but not the yards)
So who gets what points in this situation?
Obviously the Saints ST gets the 3 points for the block. But this technically is not a kick return, as it was on a field goal and no return was set up. Even though it was special teams, I always think of defending FG's like being on defense, thus my initial reaction to the return was like a fumble return, where Thomas would get the touchdown. Because during play, if the ball is blocked backwards as this one was, it is just like a fumble. Basically a free ball.
It's a weird case that might happen half a dozen times in a season, but almost never in which it involves two 'players' on opposing fantasy teams.
Have special teams in the past been credited with blocked kicks for touchdowns? What about a blocked kick for a safety? Does the blocker get that credited to his defense score?
Do defensive players get credit for any touchdown not specifically from a run, catch, or kick return? Or is it specifically from fumble recoveries and interceptions?
Feel free to chime in and discuss.
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| 76 | dgrooves
ID: 421150118 Mon, Dec 15, 2003, 20:44
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In my opinion, NO ST is the only "player" who should get any points. After the block, which points it should be awarded is much tougher to decide.
I dont think our league intended the return yards to be awarded to anyone, much in the same way no one is awarded points for return yards after an interception or fumble.
So were left with the TD. A field goal attempt isnt any more of a defensive situation than a punt, so I dont see any reason for an individual player (human being) to be awarded any points for a return TD. Should NO ST get points for the special teams touchdown? Last year, it would have been a clear no. This year, maybe. Last year, we only awarded points to Special Teams on kickoff and punt returns. This year, in adding the blocks, we failed to address the issue of a blocked kick returned for a TD. I say the spirit of the rules say no, NO ST should not get points for the TD. However, I can see how the rules could be interpreted to award points for a return TD on any special teams play.
My vote is 3 points for the block, nothing more.
As for blocked kicks for safeties, our rules dont award points to any player for safeties.
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| 77 | IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO
ID: 3951204 Tue, Dec 16, 2003, 06:07
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wow, it seems that the Italian Eagles are going to the Superbowl!!!! another great position, and i'm actually at wwr#1 in tsn ultimate basket......now let's hope to keep it goin' till' the end.
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| 78 | Nerfherders
ID: 308512415 Tue, Dec 16, 2003, 10:29
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Actually, it's the Poulan Weed-Eater HCKL Bowl. But that's okay. :)
I agree with you dgrooves. I don't think anyone gets the touchdown under the rules the way they are right now. And it's such a freak play I don't see the need for adding it.
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| 79 | Art of Monk
ID: 210541917 Tue, Dec 16, 2003, 13:38
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Alright I am playing for the top pick in next year's draft. I just hope I can draft someone like Chad Johnson. I'll have 2 picks in the top 14, this year I had 8 picks in the top 60 and that sure helped my team. I'm just glad that driver finally showed up for one week all season. Hey Nerf, I wish I could help you out by trading you some offensive player, but I don't have any to give you. AP 10, I know you are busy doing so many leagues and stuff, but just wondering when you are going to start working on baseball. I think I have an idea where I stand with contracts but the site is not updated. Beebop is trying to make another offseason trade. Just kidding. Seriously I just want to thank you for all of your hard work. I just want to know when I am going to be invited to an insande bball league.
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| 80 | beebop
ID: 91121316 Tue, Dec 16, 2003, 13:43
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Hey!!!! well.....i think i was a couple weeks back.....i cant remember......lol. Well, More like maybe a month or so back.
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| 81 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 431034212 Tue, Dec 16, 2003, 23:42
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Rolling Thunder | | beebop | Pts | Team | Pos | Name | | Name | Pos | Team | Pts | 13 | PHI | QB | Mcnabb,Donovan | | Mcnair,Steve | QB | TEN | 0 | 9 | PIT | RB | Bettis,Jerome | | Bryson,Shawn | RB | DET | 17 | 42 | SD | RB | Tomlinson,Ladainian | | Barber,Tiki | RB | NYG | 11 | 22 | TEN | WR | Mason,Derrick | | Owens,Terrell | WR | SF | 26 | 12 | STL | WR | Bruce,Isaac | | Ward,Hines | WR | PIT | 11 | 7 | BUF | WR | Moulds,Eric | | Mccareins,Justin | WR | TEN | 13 | 3 | JAC | TE | Brady,Kyle | | Mcmichael,Randy | TE | MIA | 26 | 18 | BUF | DL | Schobel,Aaron | | Clemons,Duane | DL | CIN | 4 | 0 | TB | DL | Sapp,Warren | | Ferguson,Jason | DL | NYJ | 11 | 20 | ATL | DL | Kerney,Patrick | | Coleman,Roderic | DL | OAK | 22 | 15 | DAL | DB | Woodson,Darren | | Russell,Brian | DB | MIN | 6 | 17 | OAK | DB | Buchanon,Phillip | | Bailey,Champ | DB | WAS | 13 | 6 | PHI | DB | Vincent,Troy | | Bly,Dre | DB | DET | 6 | 7 | IND | LB | Morris,Rob | | Bruschi,Tedy | LB | NE | 17 | 9 | BAL | LB | Hartwell,Edgerton | | Armstead,Jessie | LB | WAS | 14 | 23 | ATL | LB | Brooking,Keith | | Farrior,James | LB | PIT | 15 | 15 | GB | PK | Longwell,Ryan | | Vinatieri,Adam | PK | NE | 15 | -6 | KC | ST | St-Chiefs,Kc | | St-Bears,Chi | ST | CHI | 14 | 13 | SEA | OL | Ol-Seahawks,Sea | | Ol-Bears,Chi | OL | CHI | 8 | 245 | | | | | | | | 249 | | | | | | | | | | Art of Monk | | Ike44 | Pts | Team | Pos | Name | | Name | Pos | Team | Pts | 2 | NYJ | QB | Pennington,Chad | | Bulger,Marc | QB | STL | 18 | 12 | BAL | RB | Lewis,Jamal | | White,Jamel | RB | CLE | 5 | 22 | NO | RB | McAllister,Deuce | | Dillon,Corey | RB | CIN | 2 | 9 | SEA | WR | Robinson,Koren | | Branch,Deion | WR | NE | 2 | 25 | GB | WR | Driver,Donald | | Johnson,Chad | WR | CIN | 21 | 5 | WAS | WR | Gardner,Rod | | Holt,Torry | WR | STL | 22 | 18 | SEA | TE | Mili,Itula | | Pollard,Marcus | TE | IND | 7 | 11 | JAC | DL | Stroud,Marcus | | Seymour,Richard | DL | NE | 20 | 10 | SF | DL | Carter,Andre | | Hicks,Eric | DL | KC | 4 | 17 | CAR | DL | Peppers,Julius | | Gbaja-Biamila,K | DL | GB | 3 | 29 | STL | DB | Archuleta,Adam | | Woodson,Charles | DB | OAK | 9 | 8 | SF | DB | Parrish,Tony | | Williams,Shaun | 0 | NYG | 0 | 9 | TEN | DB | Williams,Tank | | Bellamy,Jay | DB | NO | 6 | 10 | IND | LB | Thornton,David | | Spikes,Takeo | LB | BUF | 19 | 29 | WAS | LB | Trotter,Jeremia | | Hardy,Kevin | LB | CIN | 15 | 14 | SEA | LB | Brown,Chad | | Wilson,Al | LB | DEN | 17 | 15 | DAL | PK | Cundiff,Billy | | Feely,Jay | PK | ATL | 2 | 16 | SD | ST | St-Chargers,Sd | | St-Redskins,Was | ST | WAS | 28 | 17 | NO | OL | Ol-Saints,No | | Ol-Chargers,Sd | OL | SD | 8 | 278 | | | | | | | | 208 | | | | | | | | | | Furious Midget Klingon Horde | | Cowboys Homer | Pts | Team | Pos | Name | | Name | Pos | Team | Pts | -2 | ATL | QB | Vick,Michael | | Hasselbeck,Matt | QB | SEA | 12 | 18 | STL | RB | Faulk,Marshall | | Jones,Thomas | RB | TB | 21 | 16 | CHI | RB | Thomas,Anthony | | Davis,Stephen | RB | CAR | 10 | 25 | MIN | WR | Moss,Randy | | Burress,Plaxico | WR | PIT | 4 | 10 | TB | WR | Mccardell,Keenan | | Hakim,Az-Zahir | WR | DET | 19 | 18 | IND | WR | Wayne,Reggie | | Warrick,Peter | WR | CIN | 17 | 27 | DEN | TE | Sharpe,Shannon | | Williams,Boo | TE | NO | 14 | 14 | MIA | DL | Taylor,Jason | | Mcginest,Willie | DL | NE | 8 | 4 | TB | DL | Rice,Simeon | | Williams,Kevin | DL | MIN | 12 | 3 | MIN | DL | Johnstone,Lance | | Brackens,Tony | DL | JAC | 6 | 18 | KC | DB | Wesley,Greg | | Garnes,Sam | DB | NYJ | 10 | 26 | GB | DB | Sharper,Darren | | Mckenzie,Mike | DB | GB | 8 | 18 | WAS | DB | Ohalete,Ifeanyi | | Milloy,Lawyer | DB | BUF | 26 | 29 | TEN | LB | Bulluck,Keith | | Mckinnon,Ronald | LB | ARI | 8 | 22 | ATL | LB | Draft,Chris | | Foreman,Jay | LB | HOU | 16 | 28 | JAC | LB | Peterson,Mike | | Fletcher,London | LB | BUF | 13 | 13 | OAK | PK | Janikowski,Sebastian | | Andersen,Morten | PK | KC | 17 | 28 | DET | ST | St-Lions,Det | | St-Browns,Cle | ST | CLE | 16 | 19 | SF | OL | Ol-Niners,Sf | | Ol-Packers,Gb | OL | GB | 13 | 334 | | | | | | | | 250 | | | | | | | | | | Birds of Prey | | Nerfherder | Pts | Team | Pos | Name | | Name | Pos | Team | Pts | 19 | CIN | QB | Kitna,Jon | | Garcia,Jeff | QB | SF | 33 | 0 | WAS | 0 | Canidate,Trung | | Williams,Moe | RB | MIN | 9 | 36 | KC | RB | Holmes,Priest | | Pittman,Michael | RB | TB | 8 | 9 | BAL | WR | Taylor,Travis | | Kennison,Eddie | WR | KC | 8 | 4 | NYG | WR | Toomer,Amani | | Boston,David | WR | SD | 5 | 15 | BUF | WR | Shaw,Bobby | | Price,Peerless | WR | ATL | 2 | 36 | KC | TE | Gonzalez,Tony | | Miller,Billy | TE | HOU | 4 | 14 | NO | DL | Grant,Charles | | Lang,Kenard | DL | CLE | 16 | 12 | BAL | DL | Gregg,Kelly | | Kalu,Ndukwe | DL | PHI | 9 | 0 | ATL | 0 | Johnson,Ellis | | Little,Leonard | DL | STL | 8 | 8 | MIN | DB | Williams,Brian | | James,Tory | DB | CIN | 2 | 9 | BAL | DB | Reed,Edward | | Thomas,Fred | DB | NO | 13 | 20 | NE | DB | Harrison,Rodney | | Dawkins,Brian | DB | PHI | 27 | 8 | TB | LB | Brooks,Derrick | | Thomas,Zach | LB | MIA | 28 | 13 | CHI | LB | Urlacher,Brian | | Barton,Eric | LB | OAK | 11 | 4 | BAL | LB | Suggs,Terrell | | Edwards,Donnie | LB | SD | 11 | 20 | PHI | PK | Akers,David | | Carney,John | PK | NO | 17 | -6 | NO | ST | St-Saints,No | | St-Falcons,Atl | ST | ATL | 38 | 9 | ATL | OL | Ol-Falcons,Atl | | Ol-Chiefs,Kc | OL | KC | 20 | 230 | | | | | | | | 269 | | | | | | | | | | Del Boca Vista Puppet Masters | | Long Beach Lightning | Pts | Team | Pos | Name | | Name | Pos | Team | Pts | 9 | CAR | QB | Delhomme,Jake | | Green,Trent | QB | KC | 32 | 20 | SEA | RB | Alexander,Shaun | | Williams,Ricky | RB | MIA | 18 | 20 | GB | RB | Green,Ahman | | Portis,Clinton | RB | DEN | 26 | 46 | NO | WR | Horn,Joe | | Boldin,Anquan | WR | ARI | 15 | 2 | CHI | WR | White,Dez | | Smith,Jimmy | WR | JAC | 9 | 4 | GB | WR | Walker,Javon | | Harrison,Marvin | WR | IND | 27 | 9 | ARI | TE | Jones,Freddie | | Franks,Bubba | TE | GB | 0 | 0 | CAR | DL | Rucker,Michael | | Daniels,Phillip | DL | CHI | 10 | 4 | SEA | DL | Okeafor,Chike | | Ogunleye,Adewal | DL | MIA | 8 | 17 | JAC | DL | Ayodele,Akin | | Freeney,Dwight | DL | IND | 3 | 13 | WAS | DB | Bowen,Matt | | Plummer,Ahmed | DB | SF | 4 | 2 | DEN | DB | Herndon,Kelly | | Doss,Michael | DB | IND | 4 | 17 | KC | DB | Woods,Jerome | | Jammer,Quentin | DB | SD | 11 | 20 | GB | LB | Barnett,Nick | | Peterson,Julian | LB | SF | 11 | 19 | CLE | LB | Davis,Andra | | Diggs,Nail | LB | GB | 10 | 17 | CAR | LB | Witherspoon,Wil | | Arrington,Lavar | LB | WAS | 26 | 14 | CAR | PK | Kasay,John | | Anderson,Gary | PK | TEN | 13 | 14 | ARI | ST | St-Cards,Ari | | St-Patriots,Ne | ST | NE | 6 | 8 | CAR | OL | Ol-Panthers,Car | | Ol-Rams,Stl | OL | STL | 10 | 255 | | | | | | | | 243 | | | | | | | | | | Sandwich Town Statics | | Italian Eagles | Pts | Team | Pos | Name | | Name | Pos | Team | Pts | 39 | NO | QB | Brooks,Aaron | | Manning,Peyton | QB | IND | 41 | 26 | SF | RB | Barlow,Kevan | | Shipp,Marcel | RB | ARI | 5 | 11 | BUF | RB | Henry,Travis | | James,Edgerrin | RB | IND | 11 | 0 | BAL | WR | Robinson,Marcus | | Chambers,Chris | WR | MIA | 13 | 9 | NYJ | WR | Moss,Santana | | Smith,Rod | WR | DEN | 8 | 21 | SEA | WR | Jackson,Darrell | | Smith,Steve | WR | CAR | 18 | 2 | ATL | TE | Crumpler,Alge | | Kleinsasser,Jimmy | TE | MIN | 11 | 8 | NYG | DL | Strahan,Michael | | Young,Brian | DL | STL | 2 | 4 | NYJ | DL | Ellis,Shaun | | Douglas,Marques | DL | BAL | 4 | 4 | TEN | DL | Kearse,Jevon | | Carter,Kevin | DL | TEN | 7 | 6 | TB | DB | Barber,Ronde | | Chavous,Corey | DB | MIN | 7 | 20 | BUF | DB | Winfield,Antoine | | Coleman,Marcus | DB | HOU | 10 | 4 | SEA | DB | Trufant,Marcus | | Law,Ty | DB | NE | 12 | 16 | IND | PK | Vanderjagt,Mike | | Nguyen,Dat | LB | DAL | 21 | 4 | CAR | ST | St-Panthers,Car | | Barrow,Mike | LB | NYG | 21 | 16 | TB | OL | Ol-Bucs,Tb | | Sharper,Jamie | LB | HOU | 32 | 16 | BAL | LB | Lewis,Ray | | Wilkins,Jeff | PK | STL | 17 | 15 | KC | LB | Barber,Shawn | | St-Texans,Hou | ST | HOU | 18 | 18 | PIT | LB | Bell,Kendrell | | Ol-Colts,Ind | OL | IND | 19 | 239 | | | | | | | | 277 | | | | | | | | | | RED=changed result GREEN=unchanged result
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| 82 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 431034212 Tue, Dec 16, 2003, 23:44
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Fantasy Bowl | Seed | Team | Playing.. | 4 | Italian Eagles | Title Game | 2 | Del Boca Vista Puppet Masters | | 3 | Sandwich Town Statics | 3rd Place | 1 | Long Beach Lightning | | | | | .500 Bowl | Seed | Team | Playing.. | 8 | Nerfherders | 5th Place | 6 | Furious Midget Klingon Horde | | 7 | Cowboys Homer | 7th Place | 5 | Birds of Prey | | | | | Toilet Bowl | Seed | Team | Playing.. | 11 | beebop | #1 Draft Pick | 9 | Art of Monk | | 10 | Rolling Thunder | To avoid Last | 12 | Ike44 | Place | | | | | | |
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| 84 | Nerfherders
ID: 308512415 Wed, Dec 17, 2003, 17:29
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As discussed above, New Orleans special teams gets 3 points for a blocked kick. Obviously, this doesn't change the outcome.
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| 85 | IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO
ID: 3951204 Thu, Dec 18, 2003, 06:03
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where's the title game played? turf? grass? in a dome? outside, under the snow? it's important to know it because it'll affect the choiceof my starters......oh, wait, maybe i'm taking it too serious.....;-)
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| 86 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 431034212 Thu, Dec 18, 2003, 10:54
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Art, I will try to update the baseball stuff over the holidays but there is no gaurentee. ;)
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| 87 | dgrooves
ID: 421150118 Fri, Dec 19, 2003, 20:12
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For some reason the matchups page says no games are scheduled, so I cant verify that my lineup has been set. Just to be safe, here's my lineup:
QB-Delhomme,Jake, CAR RB-Green,Ahman, GB RB-Alexander,Shaun, SEA WR-Walker,Javon, GB WR-Rice,Jerry, OAK WR-Horn,Joe, NO TE-Jones,Freddie, ARI DL-Hall,James, DET DL-Ayodele,Akin, JAC DL-Okeafor,Chike, SEA DB-Woods,Jerome, KC DB-Herndon,Kelly, DEN DB-Hamlin,Ken, SEA LB-Davis,Andra, CLE LB-Barnett,Nick, GB LB-Cowart,Sam, NYJ PK-Kasay,John, CAR ST-St-Cards,Ari, ARI OL-Ol-Panthers,Car, CAR
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| 88 | IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO
ID: 458341415 Sat, Dec 20, 2003, 09:41
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here's mine. good look dgrooves, i hope the better team will win.
"ladies and gentlemen, here comes the team that proudly rappresent Europe in this great game. Coming from a record of 11-3-1, with the probable MVP of the league leading it, and with its great offensive game....the Ittttt-aliaaaaannnnn Eeeeeea-gleeeeeeeeesssss!!!"
drumm roll, and from a great multicolour gate the team exits running all over the field....
QB-Manning,Peyton, IND RB-Taylor,Fred, JAC RB-James,Edgerrin, IND WR-Glenn,Terry, DAL WR-Smith,Steve, CAR WR-Smith,Rod, DEN TE-Kleinsasser,Jimmy, MIN DL-Young,Brian, STL DL-Douglas,Marques, BAL DL-Carter,Kevin, TEN DB-Chavous,Corey, MIN DB-Coleman,Marcus, HOU DB-Law,Ty, NE LB-Nguyen,Dat, DAL LB-Barrow,Mike, NYG LB-Sharper,Jamie, HOU PK-Wilkins,Jeff, STL ST-St-Texans,Hou, HOU OL-Ol-Broncos,Den, DEN
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| 89 | Nerfherders
ID: 43818813 Sat, Dec 20, 2003, 15:42
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Well if mine didnt work, it's the same lineup from last week anyways.
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| 90 | wiggs Donor
ID: 211116514 Sat, Dec 20, 2003, 15:49
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same line up for me as well.
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| 91 | dwfffan
ID: 1011191916 Sat, Dec 20, 2003, 16:24
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QB-Green,Trent, KC RB-Johnson,Rudi, CIN RB-Williams,Ricky, MIA WR-Boldin,Anquan, ARI WR-Smith,Jimmy, JAC WR-Harrison,Marvin, IND TE-Clark,Desmond, CHI DL-Daniels,Phillip, CHI DL-Ogunleye,Adewal, MIA DL-Freeney,Dwight, IND DB-Plummer,Ahmed, SF DB-Doss,Michael, IND DB-Jammer,Quentin, SD LB-Peterson,Julian, SF LB-Smith,Derek, SF LB-Arrington,Lavar, WAS PK-Elam,Jason, DEN ST-St-Dolphins,Mia, MIA OL-Ol-Rams,Stl, STL
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| 92 | Doug Sustainer
ID: 31649212 Sat, Dec 20, 2003, 17:01
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Mine should be the same from last week too.
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| 93 | IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO
ID: 458341415 Sun, Dec 21, 2003, 19:41
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partial scores:
QB-Delhomme,Jake, CAR 20 RB-Green,Ahman, GB RB-Alexander,Shaun, SEA 23 WR-Walker,Javon, GB WR-Rice,Jerry, OAK WR-Horn,Joe, NO 5 TE-Jones,Freddie, ARI 3 DL-Hall,James, DET DL-Ayodele,Akin, JAC DL-Okeafor,Chike, SEA + DB-Woods,Jerome, KC 14 DB-Herndon,Kelly, DEN DB-Hamlin,Ken, SEA LB-Davis,Andra, CLE LB-Barnett,Nick, GB LB-Cowart,Sam, NYJ 13 PK-Kasay,John, CAR 16 ST-St-Cards,Ari, ARI 13 OL-Ol-Panthers,Car, CAR 14 tot: 121
QB-Manning,Peyton, IND RB-Taylor,Fred, JAC 30 RB-James,Edgerrin, IND WR-Glenn,Terry, DAL 11 WR-Smith,Steve, CAR 19 WR-Smith,Rod, DEN TE-Kleinsasser,Jimmy, MIN 9 DL-Young,Brian, STL DL-Douglas,Marques, BAL DL-Carter,Kevin, TEN + DB-Chavous,Corey, MIN 16 DB-Coleman,Marcus, HOU DB-Law,Ty, NE 29 LB-Nguyen,Dat, DAL LB-Barrow,Mike, NYG LB-Sharper,Jamie, HOU PK-Wilkins,Jeff, STL 15 ST-St-Texans,Hou, HOU 7 OL-Ol-Broncos,Den, DEN
tot: 136
all the scores are referred to ended games.
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| 94 | IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO
ID: 458341415 Sun, Dec 21, 2003, 20:12
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QB-Delhomme,Jake, CAR 20 RB-Green,Ahman, GB RB-Alexander,Shaun, SEA 23 WR-Walker,Javon, GB WR-Rice,Jerry, OAK WR-Horn,Joe, NO 5 TE-Jones,Freddie, ARI 3 DL-Hall,James, DET 7 DL-Ayodele,Akin, JAC 20 DL-Okeafor,Chike, SEA 19 DB-Woods,Jerome, KC 14 DB-Herndon,Kelly, DEN DB-Hamlin,Ken, SEA 8 LB-Davis,Andra, CLE 9 LB-Barnett,Nick, GB LB-Cowart,Sam, NYJ 13 PK-Kasay,John, CAR 16 ST-St-Cards,Ari, ARI 13 OL-Ol-Panthers,Car, CAR 14 tot.: 184
QB-Manning,Peyton, IND RB-Taylor,Fred, JAC 30 RB-James,Edgerrin, IND WR-Glenn,Terry, DAL 11 WR-Smith,Steve, CAR 19 WR-Smith,Rod, DEN TE-Kleinsasser,Jimmy, MIN 9 DL-Young,Brian, STL DL-Douglas,Marques, BAL 12 DL-Carter,Kevin, TEN 14 DB-Chavous,Corey, MIN 16 DB-Coleman,Marcus, HOU 5 DB-Law,Ty, NE 29 LB-Nguyen,Dat, DAL 11 LB-Barrow,Mike, NYG 17 LB-Sharper,Jamie, HOU 12 PK-Wilkins,Jeff, STL 15 ST-St-Texans,Hou, HOU 7 OL-Ol-Broncos,Den, DEN tot.: 196
stats may change a bit since for a lot of defensive players i didn't have the number of passes defended, which is a nice boost to the stats. i've now heard that portis will not play, so my choice of the denver OL seems wrong, considered that i should have had the colts' one.....let's hope for a manning "normal game" and for a 99yds td catch by james.....
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| 95 | dgrooves
ID: 421150118 Sun, Dec 21, 2003, 21:32
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QB-Delhomme,Jake, CAR 20 RB-Green,Ahman, GB RB-Alexander,Shaun, SEA 23 WR-Walker,Javon, GB WR-Rice,Jerry, OAK WR-Horn,Joe, NO 5 TE-Jones,Freddie, ARI 4 DL-Hall,James, DET 7 DL-Ayodele,Akin, JAC 19 DL-Okeafor,Chike, SEA 19 DB-Woods,Jerome, KC 14 DB-Herndon,Kelly, DEN DB-Hamlin,Ken, SEA 8 LB-Davis,Andra, CLE 12 LB-Barnett,Nick, GB LB-Cowart,Sam, NYJ 13 PK-Kasay,John, CAR 16 ST-St-Cards,Ari, ARI 8 OL-Ol-Panthers,Car, CAR 14 Total: 182
QB-Manning,Peyton, IND RB-Taylor,Fred, JAC 30 RB-James,Edgerrin, IND WR-Glenn,Terry, DAL 11 WR-Smith,Steve, CAR 19 WR-Smith,Rod, DEN TE-Kleinsasser,Jimmy, MIN 10 DL-Young,Brian, STL 0 DL-Douglas,Marques, BAL 12 DL-Carter,Kevin, TEN 12 DB-Chavous,Corey, MIN 16 DB-Coleman,Marcus, HOU 11 DB-Law,Ty, NE 29 LB-Nguyen,Dat, DAL 11 LB-Barrow,Mike, NYG 17 LB-Sharper,Jamie, HOU 14 PK-Wilkins,Jeff, STL 17 ST-St-Texans,Hou, HOU 10 OL-Ol-Broncos,Den, DEN Total: 219
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| 96 | dgrooves
ID: 421150118 Mon, Dec 22, 2003, 07:54
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QB-Delhomme,Jake, CAR 20 RB-Green,Ahman, GB RB-Alexander,Shaun, SEA 23 WR-Walker,Javon, GB WR-Rice,Jerry, OAK WR-Horn,Joe, NO 5 TE-Jones,Freddie, ARI 4 DL-Hall,James, DET 7 DL-Ayodele,Akin, JAC 19 DL-Okeafor,Chike, SEA 19 DB-Woods,Jerome, KC 14 DB-Herndon,Kelly, DEN 2 DB-Hamlin,Ken, SEA 8 LB-Davis,Andra, CLE 12 LB-Barnett,Nick, GB LB-Cowart,Sam, NYJ 13 PK-Kasay,John, CAR 16 ST-St-Cards,Ari, ARI 8 OL-Ol-Panthers,Car, CAR 14 Total: 184
QB-Manning,Peyton, IND 5 RB-Taylor,Fred, JAC 30 RB-James,Edgerrin, IND 10 WR-Glenn,Terry, DAL 11 WR-Smith,Steve, CAR 19 WR-Smith,Rod, DEN 15 TE-Kleinsasser,Jimmy, MIN 10 DL-Young,Brian, STL 0 DL-Douglas,Marques, BAL 12 DL-Carter,Kevin, TEN 12 DB-Chavous,Corey, MIN 16 DB-Coleman,Marcus, HOU 11 DB-Law,Ty, NE 29 LB-Nguyen,Dat, DAL 11 LB-Barrow,Mike, NYG 17 LB-Sharper,Jamie, HOU 14 PK-Wilkins,Jeff, STL 17 ST-St-Texans,Hou, HOU 10 OL-Ol-Broncos,Den, DEN 20 Total: 269
It will be difficult to make up 85 points with 4 players, so I think the HKL Championship will be making a trip across the Atlantic.
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| 97 | IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO
ID: 458341415 Mon, Dec 22, 2003, 08:03
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damned colts' offense.....a year making great numbers and they play like crap in the superbowl....it should have been all done with a "normal" 20-20 by peyton and edge, but now i've to stay awake with my foots' fingers crossed too.....;-)
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| 98 | Art of Monk
ID: 210541917 Mon, Dec 22, 2003, 11:23
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ap10, no prob with baseball changes we still have plenty of time. Over the holidays, I won't count on much. Just want to know where I stand. I think we might want to post draft picks that have also been traded. Thanks for all of your hard work.
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| 99 | Nerfherders
ID: 43818813 Tue, Dec 23, 2003, 01:02
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Wow. Rice got a ****load of points on that last drive at the end. He was a touchdown catch away from dgrooves winning it all.
Meanwhile, even though I'm a game worse than last season, I improved in points... by 3! LOL Improvement is improvement, I guess.
I have some good defensive players to trade for offense. Let me know if youre interested.
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| 100 | dgrooves
ID: 421150118 Tue, Dec 23, 2003, 08:20
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Yup, my hand scoring has me losing by 7, 269-262. Assuming it is correct, congratulations Lazio.
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| 101 | IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO
ID: 458341415 Tue, Dec 23, 2003, 08:39
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I CAN ONLY HOPE YOU'RE RIGHT DGROOVES!!! yesterday night i went to sleep before the game and this morning when i woke up i went to see the boxscore and i almost had an heart attack. i saw walker with 2 td, ahman wit 1 but i would have never figured such a grat game by rice. it didn't show the defensive points, so i crossed my fingers and started calculating fantasy totals..... dunno what the score is, but i know that it has been a great, great final. It's been a pleasure to play such a great fantasy game, and my compliments go to you and to your great fantasy knowledge. it would be an honour to win this competitive league, whoever will win.
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| 102 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 431034212 Wed, Dec 24, 2003, 01:38
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UGH...Sorry for the difficulties! Here was my situation. I graduated from Penn State last week and was planning on moving out on Saturday. Unfortunately I forgot that I canceled my internet therefore it got shut off on Thursday. Anyways, to make a long story short...it took awhile to get everything moved, unpacked, etc.
I'll get everything updated ASAP!
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| 103 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 431034212 Wed, Dec 24, 2003, 11:40
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Week 16 Results Rolling Thunder | | Ike44 | Pts | Team | Pos | Name | | Name | Pos | Team | Pts | 1 | JAC | TE | Brady,Kyle | | Bulger,Marc | QB | STL | 18 | 19 | PIT | RB | Bettis,Jerome | | White,Jamel | RB | CLE | 7 | 11 | IND | LB | Morris,Rob | | Hardy,Kevin | LB | CIN | 14 | 16 | DAL | DB | Woodson,Darren | | Seymour,Richard | DL | NE | 15 | 17 | SEA | OL | Ol-Seahawks,Sea | | Woodson,Charles | DB | OAK | 7 | 6 | OAK | DB | Buchanon,Phillip | | Branch,Deion | WR | NE | 4 | 19 | GB | PK | Longwell,Ryan | | Hicks,Eric | DL | KC | 4 | 15 | BUF | DL | Schobel,Aaron | | St-Redskins,Was | ST | WAS | 12 | 0 | PHI | DB | Vincent,Troy | | Ol-Chargers,Sd | OL | SD | 12 | 22 | KC | ST | St-Chiefs,Kc | | Feely,Jay | PK | ATL | 20 | 3 | BAL | LB | Hartwell,Edgerton | | Pollard,Marcus | TE | IND | 15 | 8 | TEN | WR | Mason,Derrick | | Wilson,Al | LB | DEN | 1 | 8 | TB | DL | Sapp,Warren | | Williams,Shaun | DB | NYG | 0 | 0 | STL | WR | Bruce,Isaac | | Gbaja-Biamila,K | DL | GB | 26 | 4 | ATL | DL | Kerney,Patrick | | Johnson,Chad | WR | CIN | 18 | 26 | ATL | LB | Brooking,Keith | | Bellamy,Jay | DB | NO | 21 | 5 | BUF | WR | Moulds,Eric | | Spikes,Takeo | LB | BUF | 13 | 27 | SD | RB | Tomlinson,Ladainian | | Holt,Torry | WR | STL | 28 | 9 | PHI | QB | Mcnabb,Donovan | | Dillon,Corey | RB | CIN | 3 | 216 | | | | | | | | 238 | | | | | | | | | | beebop | | Art of Monk | Pts | Team | Pos | Name | | Name | Pos | Team | Pts | 27 | TB | QB | Johnson,Brad | | Pennington,Chad | QB | NYJ | 8 | 14 | NYG | RB | Barber,Tiki | | Lewis,Jamal | RB | BAL | 37 | 1 | DET | RB | Bryson,Shawn | | McAllister,Deuce | RB | NO | 14 | 3 | SF | WR | Owens,Terrell | | Robinson,Koren | WR | SEA | 4 | 24 | PIT | WR | Ward,Hines | | Driver,Donald | WR | GB | 10 | 10 | TEN | WR | Mccareins,Justin | | Gardner,Rod | WR | WAS | 11 | 2 | MIA | TE | Mcmichael,Randy | | Mili,Itula | TE | SEA | 20 | 9 | OAK | DL | Coleman,Roderic | | Smith,Justin | DL | CIN | 21 | 10 | NYJ | DL | Ferguson,Jason | | Carter,Andre | DL | SF | 5 | 7 | CIN | DL | Clemons,Duane | | Peppers,Julius | DL | CAR | 11 | 2 | WAS | DB | Bailey,Champ | | Archuleta,Adam | DB | STL | 25 | 27 | MIN | DB | Russell,Brian | | Parrish,Tony | DB | SF | 33 | 18 | DET | DB | Bly,Dre | | Wilson,Adrian | DB | ARI | 11 | 24 | NE | LB | Bruschi,Tedy | | Thornton,David | LB | IND | 21 | 11 | WAS | LB | Armstead,Jessie | | Trotter,Jeremia | LB | WAS | 20 | 24 | PIT | LB | Farrior,James | | Simmons,Brian | LB | CIN | 11 | 6 | NE | PK | Vinatieri,Adam | | Cundiff,Billy | PK | DAL | 22 | 12 | CHI | ST | St-Bears,Chi | | St-Chargers,Sd | ST | SD | 20 | 17 | CHI | OL | Ol-Bears,Chi | | Ol-Saints,No | OL | NO | 9 | 248 | | | | | | | | 313 | | | | | | | | | | Cowboys Homer | | Birds of Prey | Pts | Team | Pos | Name | | Name | Pos | Team | Pts | 10 | SEA | QB | Hasselbeck,Matt | | Suggs,Terrell | LB | BAL | 28 | 12 | TB | RB | Jones,Thomas | | Shaw,Bobby | WR | BUF | 13 | 10 | PHI | RB | Westbrook,Brian | | Canidate,Trung | RB | WAS | 0 | 20 | PIT | WR | Burress,Plaxico | | Williams,Brian | DB | MIN | 11 | 16 | DEN | WR | Lelie,Ashley | | Johnson,Ellis | DL | ATL | 4 | 2 | DET | WR | Hakim,Az-Zahir | | Gregg,Kelly | DL | BAL | 5 | 3 | BAL | TE | Heap,Todd | | Ol-Falcons,Atl | OL | ATL | 16 | 42 | NE | DL | Mcginest,Willie | | Kitna,Jon | QB | CIN | 5 | 0 | JAC | DL | Brackens,Tony | | Taylor,Travis | WR | BAL | 1 | 5 | MIN | DL | Williams,Kevin | | St-Saints,No | ST | NO | 14 | 3 | NYJ | DB | Garnes,Sam | | Akers,David | PK | PHI | 8 | 13 | BUF | DB | Milloy,Lawyer | | Grant,Charles | DL | NO | 17 | 8 | NYG | DB | Stoutmire,Omar | | Harrison,Rodney | DB | NE | 24 | 25 | BUF | LB | Fletcher,London | | Toomer,Amani | WR | NYG | 11 | 13 | HOU | LB | Foreman,Jay | | Gonzalez,Tony | TE | KC | 18 | 9 | ARI | LB | Mckinnon,Ronald | | Brooks,Derrick | LB | TB | 17 | 4 | KC | PK | Andersen,Morten | | Reed,Edward | DB | BAL | 8 | 16 | CLE | ST | St-Browns,Cle | | Urlacher,Brian | LB | CHI | 15 | 19 | GB | OL | Ol-Packers,Gb | | Holmes,Priest | RB | KC | 33 | 230 | | | | | | | | 248 | | | | | | | | | | Nerfherders | | Furious Midget Klingon Horde | Pts | Team | Pos | Name | | Name | Pos | Team | Pts | 22 | SF | QB | Garcia,Jeff | | Ohalete,Ifeanyi | DB | WAS | 19 | 6 | MIN | RB | Williams,Moe | | Draft,Chris | LB | ATL | 15 | 19 | TB | RB | Pittman,Michael | | Johnstone,Lance | DL | MIN | 3 | 10 | KC | WR | Kennison,Eddie | | Mccardell,Keenan | WR | TB | 24 | 2 | SD | WR | Boston,David | | Thomas,Anthony | RB | CHI | 23 | 11 | ATL | WR | Price,Peerless | | Ol-Niners,Sf | OL | SF | 17 | 9 | HOU | TE | Miller,Billy | | Wesley,Greg | DB | KC | 43 | 12 | CLE | DL | Lang,Kenard | | Wayne,Reggie | WR | IND | 0 | 8 | PHI | DL | Kalu,Ndukwe | | Janikowski,Sebastian | PK | OAK | 2 | 8 | STL | DL | Little,Leonard | | St-Lions,Det | ST | DET | 22 | 20 | CIN | DB | James,Tory | | Sharpe,Shannon | TE | DEN | 8 | 13 | NO | DB | Thomas,Fred | | Rice,Simeon | DL | TB | 6 | 7 | PHI | DB | Dawkins,Brian | | Peterson,Mike | LB | JAC | 17 | 24 | MIA | LB | Thomas,Zach | | Sharper,Darren | DB | GB | 7 | 19 | OAK | LB | Barton,Eric | | Bulluck,Keith | LB | TEN | 15 | 19 | SD | LB | Edwards,Donnie | | Taylor,Jason | DL | MIA | 22 | 12 | NO | PK | Carney,John | | Faulk,Marshall | RB | STL | 32 | 2 | ATL | ST | St-Falcons,Atl | | Moss,Randy | WR | MIN | 30 | 13 | KC | OL | Ol-Chiefs,Kc | | Vick,Michael | QB | ATL | 19 | 236 | | | | | | | | 324 | | | | | | | | | | Sandwich Town Statics | | Long Beach Lightning | Pts | Team | Pos | Name | | Name | Pos | Team | Pts | 5 | BAL | WR | Robinson,Marcus | | Green,Trent | QB | KC | 2 | 9 | BUF | DB | Winfield,Antoine | | Williams,Ricky | RB | MIA | 14 | 13 | TB | OL | Ol-Bucs,Tb | | Johnson,Rudi | RB | CIN | 6 | 3 | NYJ | DL | Ellis,Shaun | | Boldin,Anquan | WR | ARI | 28 | 13 | SEA | DB | Trufant,Marcus | | Smith,Jimmy | WR | JAC | 3 | -2 | CAR | ST | St-Panthers,Car | | Harrison,Marvin | WR | IND | 14 | 8 | KC | LB | Barber,Shawn | | Clark,Desmond | TE | CHI | 1 | 10 | IND | PK | Vanderjagt,Mike | | Daniels,Phillip | DL | CHI | 8 | 8 | ATL | TE | Crumpler,Alge | | Ogunleye,Adewal | DL | MIA | 21 | 10 | NYJ | WR | Moss,Santana | | Freeney,Dwight | DL | IND | 8 | 6 | PIT | LB | Bell,Kendrell | | Plummer,Ahmed | DB | SF | 0 | 33 | SF | RB | Barlow,Kevan | | Doss,Michael | DB | IND | 15 | 0 | SEA | WR | Jackson,Darrell | | Jammer,Quentin | DB | SD | 7 | 5 | TEN | DL | Kearse,Jevon | | Peterson,Julian | LB | SF | 15 | 25 | NYG | DL | Strahan,Michael | | Smith,Derek | LB | SF | 11 | 13 | TB | DB | Barber,Ronde | | Arrington,Lavar | LB | WAS | 21 | 23 | NO | QB | Brooks,Aaron | | Elam,Jason | PK | DEN | 12 | 4 | BUF | RB | Henry,Travis | | St-Dolphins,Mia | ST | MIA | 12 | 18 | BAL | LB | Lewis,Ray | | Ol-Rams,Stl | OL | STL | 16 | 204 | | | | | | | | 214 | | | | | | | | | | Italian Eagles | | Del Boca Vista Puppet Masters | Pts | Team | Pos | Name | | Name | Pos | Team | Pts | 5 | IND | QB | Manning,Peyton | | Delhomme,Jake | QB | CAR | 20 | 30 | JAC | RB | Taylor,Fred | | Green,Ahman | RB | GB | 19 | 10 | IND | RB | James,Edgerrin | | Alexander,Shaun | RB | SEA | 23 | 11 | DAL | WR | Glenn,Terry | | Walker,Javon | WR | GB | 28 | 19 | CAR | WR | Smith,Steve | | Rice,Jerry | WR | OAK | 25 | 15 | DEN | WR | Smith,Rod | | Horn,Joe | WR | NO | 5 | 10 | MIN | TE | Kleinsasser,Jimmy | | Jones,Freddie | TE | ARI | 4 | 0 | STL | DL | Young,Brian | | Ayodele,Akin | DL | JAC | 19 | 12 | BAL | DL | Douglas,Marques | | Okeafor,Chike | DL | SEA | 19 | 12 | TEN | DL | Carter,Kevin | | Hall,James | DL | DET | 7 | 16 | MIN | DB | Chavous,Corey | | Hamlin,Ken | DB | SEA | 8 | 11 | HOU | DB | Coleman,Marcus | | Woods,Jerome | DB | KC | 14 | 29 | NE | DB | Law,Ty | | Herndon,Kelly | DB | DEN | 2 | 11 | DAL | LB | Nguyen,Dat | | Cowart,Sam | LB | NYJ | 13 | 17 | NYG | LB | Barrow,Mike | | Davis,Andra | LB | CLE | 12 | 14 | HOU | LB | Sharper,Jamie | | Barnett,Nick | LB | GB | 6 | 17 | STL | PK | Wilkins,Jeff | | Kasay,John | PK | CAR | 16 | 10 | HOU | ST | St-Texans,Hou | | St-Cards,Ari | ST | ARI | 6 | 20 | DEN | OL | Ol-Broncos,Den | | Ol-Panthers,Car | OL | CAR | 14 | 269 | | | | | | | | 260 | | | | | | | | | | RED=changed result GREEN=unchanged result
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| 104 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 431034212 Wed, Dec 24, 2003, 11:47
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League Champion Italian Eagles Runner-Up Del Boca Vista Puppet Masters
3. Long Beach Lightning 4. Sandwich Town Statics 5. Furious Midget Klingon Horde 6. Nerfherders 7. Birds of Prey 8. Cowboys Homer 9. Art of Monk (#1 Draft Pick!) 10. beebop 11. Ike44 12. Rolling Thunder
Unofficial 2004 Draft Order 1. Art of Monk 2. beebop 3. Ike44 4. Rolling Thunder 5. Furious Midget Klingon Horde 6. Nerfherders 7. Birds of Prey 8. Cowboys Homer 9. Italian Eagles 10. Sandwich Town Statics 11. Del Boca Vista Puppet Masters 12. Long Beach Lightning
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| 105 | dwfffan
ID: 1011191916 Wed, Dec 24, 2003, 13:31
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Is this draft order correct? How do I finish 3rd and get last pick?
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| 106 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 431034212 Wed, Dec 24, 2003, 22:40
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The top 4 teams fight for the league championship. Their post season finish does not affect their draft position instead it is determined by regular season record.
Trust me, I won it all last year and drafted last ;)
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| 107 | Nerfherders
ID: 361150271 Thu, Dec 25, 2003, 13:15
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But it should be worst record first... LBL had the worst record of the championship teams.
I think it should go:
LBL dgrooves Eagles STS
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| 108 | dgrooves
ID: 515291418 Fri, Dec 26, 2003, 09:43
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Not that it really matters, but my ST score is wrong again.
Arizona AT: 99 return yards gained - 18 points 77 return yards allowed - -10 points
18 - 10 = 8
I believe I won $12 for my finish in the playoffs and, as its a pretty small amount, I have no problem with letting Derek keep it to use for next year's fees. Im with Doug though; Id like to find another website to host our league. Im sick of all the waiver wire, lineup, and scoring problems we've had with the site we use now.
As for the draft order, Nerf is almost right. It should be:
9. Long Beach Lightning (9-5) 10. Italian Eagles (10-3-1) 11. Del Boca Vista Puppet Masters (10-3-1) 12. Sandwich Town Statics (11-3)
The only reason Im "ahead" of Lazio is that I beat him head to head in Week 10, and, in our league, head to head is the first tiebreaker for teams with identical records.
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| 109 | Nerfherders
ID: 361150271 Fri, Dec 26, 2003, 22:47
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Aha! Indeed. But somehow I thought you were 10-4, dgrooves. My bad.
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| 110 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 431034212 Sat, Dec 27, 2003, 01:33
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Oops..you are correct. I was looking at the seedings in my 2nd playoff posting (where they somehow got mixed up).
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| 111 | IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO
ID: 458341415 Sat, Dec 27, 2003, 09:51
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yesssssssss.....way to go guys!!!! thanks to all of my players, and thanks to the organization which provided to the crucial trade which turned my season. taylor has been a big, big boost to the title's run. ap10, take my actual and next year's fee from the prize and let me know how can we work it out, i'm open to everything and if you prefer you can skip sending me the money because fantasy baseball is near....;-)
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| 112 | dgrooves
ID: 421150118 Sat, Dec 27, 2003, 11:03
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Congratulations Irriducibili Lazio on a great season.
I think Doug also deserves some congratulations. He scored a ton of points this year but was also had a lot scored against him. His team was much better than his record indicated. And scoring 300+ points each week of the playoffs is certainly impressive.
Finally, thanks for all the hard work Derek. You certainly deserve recognition for the thankless hours you put into the league.
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| 113 | dgrooves
ID: 421150118 Sat, Dec 27, 2003, 14:16
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Nerf, were you planning to do the awards and team capsules again this year? I think it would be great if you would.
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| 114 | IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO
ID: 458341415 Sun, Dec 28, 2003, 09:35
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can we move to a new topic? this one is taking me and my crappy 56k connection 2 minutes to open..... thanks if we can.
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