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- [564292610] Thu, Jun 01, 2006, 09:14
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| | | 1 | wiggs@school
ID: 5252919
Thu, Jun 01, 2006, 10:33
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BMD, Thats awesome man. I just missed qualifing the other night through bodog. I got to the final table, there were 4 left and I was short stacked. I had about 32000 in chips on the big blind, blinds were 4000 and 8000. I was dealt AQ of hearts and went all in, got called by A4 offsuit and he hit his 4. I was pretty upset that I lost, but it was still a profitable tourney. I will be trying again. Anyways, Good luck, I will be routing for you.
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| | | 2 | swami
ID: 75542011
Tue, Jun 06, 2006, 10:55
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This is a bad beat, but more of a question if I priced him into the hand.
This was at a live $1/$2 NL 10-player table. I had been sitting with these guys for a few hours and had slowly built my original buy-in from $200 up to $390. The table had been playing pretty loosely and not a lot of pre-flop raising. I was UTG+2 and woke up with AcKs.
Both players before me limped, so I followed suit, 3 more people limped and the SB completed. The dealer started to pull in the chips when the BB hesitated and decided he wanted to raise. He made it $25 to go (of his approximately $400 stack) and the folding began.
He had raised $25 earlier in the day a few times and once showed down JJ to the table of limpers who folded. The table had been pushing him around a bit, and it was obvious he was a regular there (Gold Strike - Tunica). I had caught flush (KQ) over flush on him (98) earlier in the day. I decided to call and the remaining limpers folded.
FLOP: As7c4s
I have position and have flopped top pair with a backdoor flush draw. The pot is $60 and I have position.
He leads out with $40. I go into the lock down stare at the pot mode as I decide my move. I put him on no better than JJ and make a pot sized raise to a total of $100 (pot to $200). I'm now down to $255 in front of me and return to my lock down stare at the pot.
He thinks for a while, a long while, and re-raises to $100 more, 2/5 of my stack. After some debate, and deciding to stick with my initial read I push all-in for $155 more. I return to lock down stare at the pot mode.
He thinks again and for whatever reason calls and shows 8c8d.
Turn 6c
River 5h
He sucks out a straight of all things and all the regulars at the table congratulate him while I sulk out with nothing left as it was approaching time to go.
As I wrack my brain and try to stay off tilt since the $$ went in and I had the best hand (90% favorite according to online calculators) all I can come up with is my 1st re-raise wasn’t enough to make his move a big mistake. Even with that line of thinking since he raised he put me on a bluff or a weak ace that he thought I would fold. I hate putting that much $$ in with only top pair, but I had the best hand and read him to only have a pair.
Any other thoughts?
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| | | 3 | biliruben
Leader
ID: 589301110
Tue, Jun 06, 2006, 11:01
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Excellent read. I may have folded, thinking trips.
You wanted him in the pot, you got him in the pot - he hit his longshot as a huge underdog. It happens, but it sucks.
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| | | 4 | Seattle Zen
ID: 46315247
Tue, Jun 06, 2006, 11:02
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Why be upset when you had him beat 90/10? He's an idiot for calling, just a lucky one.
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| | | 5 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 564292610
Tue, Jun 06, 2006, 11:25
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Can't see that you did anything wrong...you do not want him to fold his 88...you want him to stick all of his money in the pot as a huge underdog which he did. Just a bad beat...it happens.
I think you were correct to stay in the hand after the flop...with his big preflop raise you could only put him on limited hands...that is the benefit of his raise and isolating the field. Now if that flop would have occurred and you had a half dozen limpers in the pot then any raising or reraising should scare the crap out of your AK.
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| | | 6 | THK
ID: 2510332316
Tue, Jun 06, 2006, 13:43
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I am sick of AA. Period.
Playing 5/10 last night.
Raise to $60 preflop, 2 callers.
A92 rainbow flops
I check. You check here right?!?!
Q turn...2 spades on the board
I bet $90..raised $90 more and I call (he is all in)
6 of spades river
Guy flips over 3T suited spades.
What else could I do?!?! Dear lord...
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Just now in a 180 man SNG. About 40 left. I get AA of course.
I has just 2,700 with blinds 100/200...2 limpers in front so I just go all in wanting to get what is in the pot or not get outdrawn.
1 folds. the other calls.
AA vs AJos
2JJ flops
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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| | | 7 | biliruben
Leader
ID: 589301110
Tue, Jun 06, 2006, 14:44
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I got knocked out of 3 tourneys early this weekend with QQ, JJ, KK - the first two running into AA, where he came over the top all-in pre-flop and I couldn't get away. The last, someone hit there set of 4s.
I won the 4th tourney, where I was fortunate to not see any high pocket pairs in my hand.
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| | | 8 | KnicksFan
ID: 411054411
Tue, Jun 06, 2006, 17:19
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I'm starting to play Pot Limit Omaha now (.25-.50 and .50-1.00). Anyone else into this? It's a lot of fun and most players seem to be completely clueless about how to play it -- kinda like how online hold em used to be back a year or two ago from what I've heard.
By the way, do any of you post on 2+2? I am not a poster but I lurk there often, so it would be cool to know when I'm reading a gurupie's post.
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| | | 9 | ChicagoTRS
Leader
ID: 566152116
Tue, Jun 06, 2006, 22:29
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I play some PL Omaha but mainly H/L...I don't think I am very good at least compared to my NL Holdem play...but can still make money playing Omaha. I really like to play the game short-handed...can play more aggressive and force people to make terrible calls. I think you are probably right that it is a game where superior play can make you a lot of money and the general skill level is not there but there is still plenty of money in NL Holdem.
I do not post on 2+2...lurk there once in awhile...spend more time on recpoker.com but do not really recommend it...2+2 is probably far superior for strategy discussion.
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| | | 10 | DWetzel
ID: 563201922
Tue, Jun 06, 2006, 23:05
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I'm pretty much playing everything BUT holdem right now (Omaha H/L and stud H/L are my favorites at the moment) ... it's not even that I'm particularly good at these games, but the people I am playing against (very low limits) are even worse than I am, so it's enjoyable and a little profitable.
"I don't have to outrun the bear, I just have to outrun you" is my philosophy on this. :)
Read 2+2 very occasionally, but never have posted there.
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| | | 11 | Frick@Work
Donor
ID: 3410101718
Wed, Jun 07, 2006, 08:14
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The joys of Poker
I was in a 9-person sit-n-go last night and was heads up. I got dealt AJ suited and raise 3x BB, I had 2x the chip stack as my opponent. He goes all-in and I call. He flips over J6 unsuited. He actually disconnects during the flop, nothing on the flop, nothing on the turn, and a freakin 6 on the river. I actually had to wait for him to reconnect. He then had me dominated and I went all-in a couple of hands later with KQ and lost when I didn't hit the board and he had A3.
How I loathe the fickle poker gods.
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| | | 12 | THK
ID: 2510332316
Wed, Jun 07, 2006, 11:58
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Unbelievable...AA just lost for me again...JJ hit his 2 outer on the turn. SWEET
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| | | 13 | Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Wed, Jun 07, 2006, 11:59
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Can you guys tell that school is out?!?? ;-)
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| | | 14 | THK
ID: 2510332316
Wed, Jun 07, 2006, 13:41
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;-) Gotta love it!
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| | | 15 | THK
ID: 2510332316
Thu, Jun 08, 2006, 15:08
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Why do we always talk about having a Gurupie tournament but never do so?
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| | | 16 | biliruben
Leader
ID: 589301110
Thu, Jun 08, 2006, 15:16
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A woulda, but now it's a class C Felony. Not worth the risk.
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| | | 17 | THK
ID: 2510332316
Thu, Jun 08, 2006, 16:53
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WHAT WOULD YOU DO???
I played this terribly and ended up making the wrong read.
PokerStars Game #5192364118: Tournament #25837904, $3.00+$0.30 Hold'em No Limit - Level X (400/800) - 2006/06/08 - 16:48:08 (ET)
Table '25837904 62' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: azbigman (49454 in chips)
Seat 2: l[Th@_NuTs]l (22945 in chips)
Seat 3: $DW12$ (35089 in chips)
Seat 4: AK87 (28489 in chips)
Seat 5: JU38F (25800 in chips)
Seat 6: sneaky12 (36070 in chips)
Seat 7: spnge (48914 in chips)
Seat 9: westbee (54608 in chips)
azbigman: posts the ante 50
l[Th@_NuTs]l: posts the ante 50
$DW12$: posts the ante 50
AK87: posts the ante 50
JU38F: posts the ante 50
sneaky12: posts the ante 50
spnge: posts the ante 50
westbee: posts the ante 50
l[Th@_NuTs]l: posts small blind 400
$DW12$: posts big blind 800
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to $DW12$ [Qs Ac]
AK87: folds
JU38F: folds
sneaky12: calls 800
spnge: folds
westbee: folds
azbigman: raises 3200 to 4000
l[Th@_NuTs]l: folds
$DW12$: calls 3200
sneaky12: calls 3200
*** FLOP *** [8d Tc Qc]
$DW12$: checks
sneaky12: checks
azbigman: bets 6400
Launagis is connected
$DW12$: calls 6400
sneaky12: calls 6400
*** TURN *** [8d Tc Qc] [6h]
$DW12$: checks
sneaky12: checks
azbigman: bets 39004 and is all-in
$DW12$: folds
sneaky12: calls 25620 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** [8d Tc Qc 6h] [3h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
sneaky12: shows [4h Qh] (a pair of Queens)
azbigman: shows [Ks Qd] (a pair of Queens - King kicker)
azbigman collected 83240 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 83240 | Rake 0
Board [8d Tc Qc 6h 3h]
Seat 1: azbigman (button) showed [Ks Qd] and won (83240) with a pair of Queens
Seat 2: l[Th@_NuTs]l (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: $DW12$ (big blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 4: AK87 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: JU38F folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: sneaky12 showed [4h Qh] and lost with a pair of Queens
Seat 7: spnge folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: westbee folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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Now I am sitting at 119 of 350. Had I made the call I would be in first place in the tournament right now. Whew...breathe...no TILT
THK
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| | | 18 | R9
Leader
ID: 02624472
Thu, Jun 08, 2006, 17:02
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Don't think its a horrible laydown, but I think your mistake is on the turn. By just calling you had no idea where you were on the river, so you had to make a gut call. You needed to make the decision to fold or raise on the turn imho. Still, 119 of 350 is fine.
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| | | 19 | THK
ID: 2510332316
Thu, Jun 08, 2006, 17:06
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R9-
I did fold on the turn. The instant hand history doesn't show any betting on the river because one of the guys was ALL IN.
I put AZ on AA or KK obviously which is why I laid it down. I now have realized he re-raises with mediocre hands. Something I wish I would have known before the hand...but I just got moved to that table about 10 hands before.
It is frustrating seeing him #1 in the tourney though! ARGH.
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| | | 20 | THK
ID: 2510332316
Thu, Jun 08, 2006, 17:12
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So I am in my BB just now with AKsd. This guy is sitting 2 seats before me and raises my blind. I go all in and he calls with 33. Of course nothing comes. I finish about 20 places before the $$$.
Still would like opinions on that aforementioned hand.
Thanks.
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| | | 21 | Sludge
ID: 11042612
Thu, Jun 08, 2006, 17:15
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When did you put him on AA or KK? Right before you folded? He didn't exactly play the flop like AA or KK. I would have expected a pot-sized bet (or larger) against two players with AA or KK with that flop.
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| | | 22 | biliruben
Leader
ID: 589301110
Thu, Jun 08, 2006, 17:16
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I would have raised heavily, maybe a potsize bet, after the flop. Maybe push.
You don't want a club or straight draw hanging around, or if he does, make him pay.
Him raising a caller on the button doesn't represent that much strength. If you thought he really had AA or KK, you should never have been in the hand. AQ is certainly foldable if someone represents strength, but when you hit your flop, you are (or should be) stuck.
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| | | 23 | R9
Leader
ID: 02624472
Thu, Jun 08, 2006, 17:17
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Ah, sorry, thought for some reason that action was on the river. I think my comment still holds though, a raise on the flop might push him out. Might also get him to re-raise though and force you to fold too...
Bottom line is this happened because you put him on a strong hand because you didn't know him well enough. I generally find that when facing a player I've never seen before, its best to assume they're only an average player. I don't think I'm just calling with AQ on a Q-high flop. If you really believe he has AA or KK, then you need to fold on the flop. If you're not sure, well... you need to raise then. This isn't a ring game, and getting TP/TK doesn't happen often enough in a tourney for you to just toss it away imho.
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| | | 24 | Sludge
ID: 11042612
Thu, Jun 08, 2006, 17:22
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What I want to know is who would pay $3.30 just so they could piss it away with top pair and a crappy kicker in a three-way pot with a strong pre-flop raise?
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| | | 25 | wiggs
ID: 9430208
Thu, Jun 08, 2006, 17:30
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does anyone here play bodog poker? I know farn and I do, do we have enough guys to set up a tourney some night?
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| | | 26 | leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Thu, Jun 08, 2006, 17:37
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Wiggs, I do and would be interested. Surprised I haven't seen either of you guys on before?
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| | | 27 | THK
ID: 2510332316
Thu, Jun 08, 2006, 17:45
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RE: 24-
What makes it worse he probably spent $12+ as it was a rebuy...
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| | | 28 | wiggs
ID: 9430208
Thu, Jun 08, 2006, 17:46
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leggestand, whats your sn, mine is wiggs1766
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| | | 29 | leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Thu, Jun 08, 2006, 17:49
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the usual...leggestand. What tables do you play? I primarily play the $1-$2 no limit tables, and get sucked into a couple sit and go's here and there.
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| | | 30 | wiggs
ID: 9430208
Thu, Jun 08, 2006, 20:55
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I do all sit and gos, usually 20 or 30 dollar buy ins. Sometimes I move up to the 35-3 6 player tourney. I am not sure if there is a way to search for a player on there, but I will look for you when I am on. I will be on later tonight, around 11 after the wife goes to bed.
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| | | 31 | swami
ID: 27230818
Thu, Jun 08, 2006, 22:20
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Dear DaSwam,
You finished the tournament in 1st place. You qualified to play in Tournament #25454045 and are automatically registered for it. See Tournament #25454045 Lobby for further details.
If you choose to unregister from this tournament your account will be credited with $215.00 Tournament dollars. Tournament dollars can be used to buy into any tournament.
OK, I just qualified for the Sunday $1m at PokerStars. The tourney is probably out of my league as I play mostly the small buy-ins. My question for the group is do I play in the tourney or take the Tourney $$'s and spread the wealth?
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| | | 32 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 15372923
Thu, Jun 08, 2006, 23:27
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#17 I don't think that was a bad laydown with two players in...I would fear a straight there far more than any other hand...lots of possibilities.
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| | | 33 | R9
Leader
ID: 02624472
Fri, Jun 09, 2006, 00:33
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swam, how big is your bankroll? To win a tourney like that, you really can't play scared. You have to play it the same as a 3$ tourney. So if you think you'll get really pissed off at losing your 200$ buyin to some suckout, and your bankroll is small, cashout and enjoy the winnings. Maybe you can go up a level now with that...
On the other hand, the 500k top prize is pretty sweet too. :)
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| | | 34 | THK
ID: 2510332316
Fri, Jun 09, 2006, 00:48
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The first prize is never 500k!!! But it sure is nice.
I have only played in the big one twice. The first time I turned a K high flush and went all in. Some guy called 4/5th of his stack with the A high flush draw and hit. I went out ~300 (240 or so paid about 600). I was furious, even when my BR could handle it...and that week I won 2 entries. --- The second I didn't do much.
My normal rule is...if I win a qualifier that I unregister for the $$$ and then play 2 more to see if I can win another seat. If not, then I use the rest of the T$ for tournaments.
However. www.thepokerdb.com you can BUY AND SELL TOURNAMENT DOLLARS. Which means you could turn that into real $$$ which could make you happier if your BR is small.
***PS-How cool is the pokerdb? I love that thing...
THK
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| | | 35 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 15372923
Fri, Jun 09, 2006, 00:52
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If $200 is a significant amount for you, use it to get better in smaller tournaments...your chances of going very far in the big tournament are probably slim. Especially if you are regularly depositing your own money.
Then again tournaments many times are a crap shoot and you could get lucky and get a big payout...I would just say if it is going to bother you if you don't make the money don't play.
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| | | 36 | swami
ID: 75542011
Fri, Jun 09, 2006, 09:27
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#17
I don't fear a straight here as much as a set since there was a PFR and he would be pretty nuts to push with 97 or J9 pre flop and someone already in the pot (but this is a $3.30). I think the $3.30 I push post flop with AQ, that will at minimum slow him down if he doesn't hold AA or KK, but there is no way he folds top pair with the K kicker. Then you are stuck and out of position with only top pair.
Does a huge post flop push of all-in take this pot down? Even then it isn't really wise to risk your entire stack with only top pair though and no real read on the player.
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Thanks for the feedback guys. My heart says to play in the tourney (top prize last week $160K and 750 places paid of 5200 entrants) as I'm confident I could make the $$ which would pay $300+ for 750th. My bankroll is down after cashing $500 out from a 2nd place finish in a $3.30 tourney last month. $215 is a significant amount for me.
The correct call to make is follow the advice here and try to re-qualify or pocket the tourney $$'s. My heart wants the shot to play in a big field with a decent starting stack (2500 chips) and slower than usual blinds (20 minute levels) to see if I can compete on a level with good players.
There is still a lot of time between now and 4:30pm ET Sunday....
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| | | 37 | THK
ID: 2510332316
Fri, Jun 09, 2006, 10:52
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swami-
I would recommend trying at least 1 more qualifier. If you win, then you are golden. I recommend the 1 table $27+2. You get your $$$ back for second place (minus $1). First takes it.
THK
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| | | 38 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 564292610
Fri, Jun 09, 2006, 17:20
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Beauty of making a weak play and then catching great cards...
So I sit at a 2-4NL table last night...within the first 5 hands I lose all my money on 2 or 3 idiotic plays...one chasing a flush and the next with a pocket pair I lose it all to a guy with a fullhouse who I thought was bluffing. I quickly reload and I know the table is thinking "fish on!"...within the next 20 hands I catch 2 fullhouses, a set, and two flushes and I am sitting with $1400 up $600... :-)
A little lucky I admit as you don't always get hit in the head with the deck but it is the beauty of getting a loose rep at a table...people will call you down with anything and will not respect raises. Then tightened up and walked away an hour later with $1800 up a K... This game is so easy when you are getting great cards...
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| | | 39 | biliruben
Leader
ID: 589301110
Fri, Jun 09, 2006, 17:26
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I was playing last night and was offered a seat and a "flex table" - bets can be anywhere from $2-$25 ($25 is the max bet at a non-native casino in Washington).
Has anyone played this styly of hold 'em? Anyone have a recommended strategy? Would you deviate much from NL?
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| | | 40 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 564292610
Fri, Jun 09, 2006, 17:51
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On spread limits like that I would typically bet the max after the flop or with a strong hand preflop...might limp once in awhile preflop but I would say most bets should be $25. Depends a little how the rest of the table was playing but betting max is typically the best way to give no info on your hand.
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| | | 41 | biliruben
Leader
ID: 589301110
Fri, Jun 09, 2006, 19:03
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Thanks, CTRS.
I declined the offer and just played 4/8, but perhaps I'll give it a shot when I'm feeling flush, so to speak.
Congrats on the big win, btw. I have been trying that a bit when I walk into a game in a house I don't play often. Play some really marginal hand right away and play aggressively whether I hit the flop or not. I did it last night, and won with K-high playing K-9. Got a ton of callers after that, and put a couple people on tilt who folded to me. The key there is to make sure I tighten up right away, which is sometimes hard to do if you win right away with crap.
I only do that at tables that seem to be taking themselves pretty seriously. Friendly games I like to keep friendly and play a normal tight aggressive strategy.
I was reading Harrington's tourney books, and he was saying that online tourneys have much looser play that B&M.
That wasn't the case when I briefly journeyed online to play limit.
Have things changed so much online since the book was published in 2004, or is there a big discrepency between tourney and non-tourney play?
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| | | 42 | THK
ID: 2510332316
Fri, Jun 09, 2006, 19:08
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bili-
I think limit and NL are different. NL tournaments are without a doubt much looser than tournaments at B&M casinos. [Low] Limit is a looser game overall online and B&M because a lot of the players don't completely understand limit strategy. Just my thoughts...
THK
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| | | 43 | THK
ID: 2510332316
Sun, Jun 11, 2006, 17:18
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swami-
158k for first today. How are you doing?
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| | | 44 | swami
ID: 27230818
Sun, Jun 11, 2006, 19:13
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Out in 2700th place!
I couldn't resist and I played a little overly tight early, but loosened up and played strong through the first break.
Here were the big hands and my thoughts at the end:
*********** # 23 **************
PokerStars Game #5223470311: Tournament #25454045, $200+$15 Hold'em No
Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2006/06/11 - 16:47:44 (ET)
Table '25454045 224' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: bonesy (2915 in chips)
Seat 2: surly328 (2860 in chips)
Seat 3: Diablo VT (2590 in chips)
Seat 4: DaSwam (2050 in chips)
Seat 5: AGGIE (1985 in chips)
Seat 6: pabs506 (2410 in chips)
Seat 7: Rage Of Fury (4360 in chips)
Seat 8: bigsexy73 (1660 in chips)
Seat 9: tapatapa (1670 in chips)
pabs506: posts small blind 15
Rage Of Fury: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DaSwam [2d 4d]
bigsexy73: calls 30
tapatapa: folds
bonesy: folds
surly328: folds
Diablo VT: folds
DaSwam: calls 30
AGGIE: folds
pabs506: raises 60 to 90
Rage Of Fury: folds
bigsexy73: folds
DaSwam: calls 60
*** FLOP *** [Jc Js 2c]
pabs506: checks
DaSwam: bets 200
pabs506: calls 200
*** TURN *** [Jc Js 2c] [3s]
pabs506: checks
DaSwam: checks
*** RIVER *** [Jc Js 2c 3s] [Td]
pabs506: bets 210
DaSwam: calls 210
*** SHOW DOWN ***
pabs506: shows [Jd Ad] (three of a kind, Jacks)
DaSwam: mucks hand
DaSwam said, "nh"
pabs506 collected 1060 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1060 | Rake 0
Board [Jc Js 2c 3s Td]
Seat 4: DaSwam mucked [2d 4d]
Seat 6: pabs506 (small blind) showed [Jd Ad] and won (1060) with three
of a kind, Jacks
****This guy was all over the place early on. I took a stab after he checked and I shouldn't have called the OBVIOUS value bet.****
*********** # 38 **************
PokerStars Game #5223575772: Tournament #25454045, $200+$15 Hold'em No
Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2006/06/11 - 16:58:20 (ET)
Table '25454045 224' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: bonesy (2665 in chips)
Seat 2: surly328 (3225 in chips)
Seat 3: Diablo VT (2770 in chips)
Seat 4: DaSwam (1605 in chips)
Seat 5: AGGIE (2075 in chips)
Seat 6: pabs506 (2785 in chips)
Seat 7: Rage Of Fury (4315 in chips)
Seat 8: bigsexy73 (1525 in chips)
Seat 9: tapatapa (1535 in chips)
Diablo VT: posts small blind 15
DaSwam: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DaSwam [6d 7d]
AGGIE: folds
pabs506: folds
Rage Of Fury: folds
bigsexy73: calls 30
tapatapa: folds
bonesy: folds
surly328: calls 30
Diablo VT: folds
DaSwam: checks
*** FLOP *** [6c 6s Qc]
DaSwam: checks
bigsexy73: checks
surly328: bets 80
DaSwam: calls 80
bigsexy73: folds
*** TURN *** [6c 6s Qc] [Js]
DaSwam: bets 250
surly328: raises 1910 to 2160
DaSwam: calls 1245 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** [6c 6s Qc Js] [5s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
DaSwam: shows [6d 7d] (three of a kind, Sixes)
surly328: shows [Td Qd] (two pair, Queens and Sixes)
DaSwam collected 3255 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3255 | Rake 0
Board [6c 6s Qc Js 5s]
Seat 2: surly328 (button) showed [Td Qd] and lost with two pair, Queens and Sixes
Seat 4: DaSwam (big blind) showed [6d 7d] and won (3255) with three of a kind, Sixes
****A BB special that I played well. My bet on the turn was intended to make him think I didn't want him to steal the pot. He took the hook with the Q in his hand and the trips held up.****
*********** # 109 **************
PokerStars Game #5224147707: Tournament #25454045, $200+$15 Hold'em No
Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2006/06/11 - 17:55:05 (ET)
Table '25454045 224' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: bonesy (2107 in chips)
Seat 2: eirivi (2125 in chips)
Seat 3: Diablo VT (3175 in chips)
Seat 4: DaSwam (3070 in chips)
Seat 5: AGGIE (2853 in chips)
Seat 6: Gamby88 (4115 in chips)
Seat 7: Rage Of Fury (5410 in chips)
Seat 8: Globe (3630 in chips)
Seat 9: tapatapa (5190 in chips)
Diablo VT: posts small blind 100
DaSwam: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DaSwam [Ah 7h]
AGGIE: folds
Gamby88: folds
Rage Of Fury: folds
Globe: folds
tapatapa: folds
bonesy: folds
eirivi: raises 1925 to 2125 and is all-in
Diablo VT: folds
DaSwam: calls 1925
*** FLOP *** [Kd 3c 4h]
*** TURN *** [Kd 3c 4h] [2c]
*** RIVER *** [Kd 3c 4h 2c] [9c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
DaSwam: shows [Ah 7h] (high card Ace)
eirivi: shows [Kc Qc] (a flush, King high)
eirivi collected 4350 from pot
DaSwam said, "nh"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4350 | Rake 0
Board [Kd 3c 4h 2c 9c]
Seat 2: eirivi (button) showed [Kc Qc] and won (4350) with a flush,
King high
Seat 4: DaSwam (big blind) showed [Ah 7h] and lost with high card Ace
****Beginning of the demise. I had pushed this guy off a steal raise with an all-in when I held 88 earlier. His range here was pretty wide and I was ahead when the $$ went in. This crippled me though.****
*********** # 110 **************
PokerStars Game #5224155987: Tournament #25454045, $200+$15 Hold'em No
Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2006/06/11 - 17:55:54 (ET)
Table '25454045 224' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: bonesy (2107 in chips)
Seat 2: eirivi (4350 in chips)
Seat 3: Diablo VT (3075 in chips)
Seat 4: DaSwam (945 in chips)
Seat 5: AGGIE (2853 in chips)
Seat 6: Gamby88 (4115 in chips)
Seat 7: Rage Of Fury (5410 in chips)
Seat 8: Globe (3630 in chips)
Seat 9: tapatapa (5190 in chips)
DaSwam: posts small blind 100
AGGIE: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DaSwam [Kh Qc]
Gamby88: calls 200
Rage Of Fury: folds
eirivi said, "nice call"
Globe: folds
tapatapa: folds
bonesy: folds
eirivi: folds
Diablo VT: folds
DaSwam: raises 745 to 945 and is all-in
AGGIE: raises 1908 to 2853 and is all-in
Gamby88: folds
*** FLOP *** [Js 9c 2d]
DaSwam said, "KQ won last time"
*** TURN *** [Js 9c 2d] [9h]
*** RIVER *** [Js 9c 2d 9h] [8s]
DaSwam said, "gg all"
*** SHOW DOWN ***
DaSwam: shows [Kh Qc] (a pair of Nines)
AGGIE: shows [Ah 7h] (a pair of Nines - Ace kicker)
AGGIE collected 2090 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2090 | Rake 0
Board [Js 9c 2d 9h 8s]
Seat 4: DaSwam (small blind) showed [Kh Qc] and lost with a pair of Nines
Seat 5: AGGIE (big blind) showed [Ah 7h] and won (2090) with a pair of Nines
****Here we go with A7 vs KQ again, only this time KQ couldn't suck out.****
It was fun, but I should have played with my head. Now that I have the romance of it all out of the way I will follow the 're-qualify' rules next time I make it.
BTW, I didn't see a $27 qualifier for the $1m tourney. I got in through the $11 Double Shootout. I think I'll try that route again at a later date.
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| | | 45 | THK
ID: 2510332316
Sun, Jun 11, 2006, 19:18
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Swami-
Not sure about the A7 call. That early with the blinds only 100/200 I would have laid that hand down. The big one is fun to play in though.
Also, I don't like the Double Shootouts because the first level is a turbo and I personally hate turbos. the $27+2 is a 9 man SNG. I love 9 man SNGs and the $30+3 SNG is pretty much all I have been playing lately because of the profit it has made for me...
THK
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| | | 46 | swami
ID: 27230818
Sun, Jun 11, 2006, 20:06
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Some are turbos but others are regular SnG's w/15 minute blinds. Check out tourney 26300381 that starts at 20:35 on Stars.
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| | | 47 | THK
ID: 2510332316
Mon, Jun 12, 2006, 18:56
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I am exploring a theory that in tournaments during preflop all in situations that the larger stacks win the majority of the time regardless of hand. This is just a conspiracy theory and friend and I came up with that PokerStars would use to speed up the tournaments that I felt like finally taking a look at. Now the data is skewed because I only looked at my all-in bets or calls which changes some things since I normally go in with the best.
In a short time, I have gone all in or called with the best hand 11 times with a record of 6-5. Now I should clarify when I mean the best hand I am often dominating the opponent - races are not included. Of my 6 wins, I was big stack 5 of the times. Of my 5 losses, I was the smaller stack all 5 times. 4 of those five losses I shared a card with my opponent. This obviously supports the theory/my bad luck.
However, when I look at races...I have been in 5 races, which I use as an under pair vs 2 over cards. I have 1-4 in race situations. However three of those losses I was the larger stack. Therefore that doesn't really support the theory.
Then of the 3 times I have gone all in behind I was the smaller stack and all 3 times I have lost. Twice it has been QQ vs KK...argh.
Really these are just useless things I am looking at probably but oh well...just something I thought I would explore.
Sorry for the rambling, haha.
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| | | 48 | R9
Leader
ID: 02624472
Mon, Jun 12, 2006, 22:29
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I would be pretty skeptical of that theory, but its worth checking out, if for no other reason then to dismiss it. If you want, I'll toss you my tourney stats too, and maybe in a month or two we'll have a larger sample that can dismiss/prove your theory.
I just put 500$ back into Pstars for tournies (got the 11$ rebuy itch!), so I'll send you my all-in stats in a couple weeks when I have some tournies logged.
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| | | 49 | THK
ID: 2510332316
Mon, Jun 12, 2006, 23:32
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Sounds good R9 thanks. My last 10 races I am 1-9. Is that serious? HAHA.
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| | | 51 | THK
ID: 2510332316
Wed, Jun 14, 2006, 01:02
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I am looking at ONLY preflop all-ins. Post flop brings skill/stupidity into player, therefore would skew the results of what I am trying to [dis] prove.
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| | | 55 | weykool
ID: 15548515
Wed, Jun 14, 2006, 23:40
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Was wondering if anyone has had any luck playing 7-card.
I suck at H/L so I'm only talking about regular.
I've been playing a lot of 2/4 and 3/6 and been doing very well.
You can show an Ace or King and have the pair and someone with a 5 or 6 will call you down to the river trying to suck out on their runner runner flush or gutshot.
Lots of bad players at these limits.
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| | | 56 | R9
Leader
ID: 02624472
Wed, Jun 14, 2006, 23:48
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I've heard 7-card (and Omaha) are ridiculously full of fish. I haven't played much 7-card (just with some friends) so I'd want to read a book on general strategy before tossing my money in. But I'm thinking of giving it a go. I still have the most fun at Hold'em, but Omaha has been my cashcow so far this year. (Just Omaha Hi, usually 2/4 and 3/6) Wouldn't surprise me if 7-card was just as weak.
Any good 7-card books you guys would recommend? I believe there's a 7-card section in SS2 that I'll check out. Also, where do you play weykool? Pstars?
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| | | 57 | weykool
ID: 15548515
Thu, Jun 15, 2006, 10:17
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I play at party.
The strategy is pretty much the same as holdem.
I dont play a hand unless I have a pair or 3 cards suited or a run of 3. (like 9-10-J)
When I sit down the first hand I get where my door card is high I bet it and bet it hard.
If I have the pair then its like announcing I will bet hard when I have the best hand and they will fold later when I have nothing.
If I dont have a pair they will call everything after that even when they are behind.
The 5/10 and 10/20 tables tend to have better players so its very tough.
On the lower limit tables they will call anything so strategy goes out the window.
You will get a pair 1 in 6 hands.
That pair will be hidden a third of the time.
Because your pair will be your door card 2/3 of the time you have to beware when someone pairs their door card.
The chances of them having trips is very good.
When I pair my door card I bet it hard.
I try to play tight and ultra agressive.
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| | | 58 | swami
ID: 75542011
Thu, Jun 15, 2006, 10:31
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Sorry for the bad beat spam last night. Reviewing it this morning shows my frustration. I'll pull them down and post the all-in results after I review the entire tourney.
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| | | 59 | THK
ID: 2510332316
Thu, Jun 15, 2006, 20:14
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Funny thing...since I have been doing this, when I go all in with a dominating hand, the best hand, or in a race...I feel like I know what to expect. It is better for the suckouts because I don't get as upset.
Just went all in with AA in the $5 rebuy and was called by TT... I was the short stack. :-(
THK
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| | | 60 | ChicagoTRS
Leader
ID: 566152116
Thu, Jun 15, 2006, 21:33
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bleh...the site where I play changed the all-ins in the cash games so only the winners cards are exposed...ring games only. So if you get all-in preflop you don't even know what to root for against. Hate this...harder to identify morons...have to go in the hand history to see what they called with.
Then again maybe this will encourage people to make weak calls if they know their cards will not be exposed if they lose.
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| | | 61 | DWetzel
ID: 563201922
Sat, Jun 17, 2006, 21:02
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I suck at holdem... I won this hand but am sure I didn't play it all that well... critiques welcome. This is the VERY FIRST HAND of a $5+.50 MTT.
PokerStars Game #5284439612: Tournament #26172037, $5.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2006/06/17 - 20:50:00 (ET)
Table '26172037 105' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: HHtoad (1500 in chips)
Seat 2: The A-Game (1500 in chips)
Seat 3: 1021rounder (1500 in chips)
Seat 4: T@PiSNoIr (1500 in chips)
Seat 6: weedon (1500 in chips)
Seat 7: xXHAASXx (1500 in chips)
Seat 8: DWetzel (1500 in chips)
Seat 9: emivero (1500 in chips)
The A-Game: posts small blind 10
1021rounder: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DWetzel [9c 9s]
T@PiSNoIr: folds
weedon: calls 20
xXHAASXx: folds
DWetzel: raises 60 to 80
emivero: calls 80
HHtoad: calls 80
The A-Game: folds
1021rounder: folds
weedon: calls 60
*** FLOP *** [2d 3d 9d]
weedon: checks
DWetzel: bets 140
emivero: calls 140
HHtoad: folds
weedon: folds
*** TURN *** [2d 3d 9d] [2s]
DWetzel: bets 220
emivero: calls 220
*** RIVER *** [2d 3d 9d 2s] [2c]
DWetzel: bets 300
emivero: calls 300
*** SHOW DOWN ***
DWetzel: shows [9c 9s] (a full house, Nines full of Deuces)
emivero: mucks hand
DWetzel collected 1670 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1670 | Rake 0
Board [2d 3d 9d 2s 2c]
Seat 1: HHtoad (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 2: The A-Game (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: 1021rounder (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: T@PiSNoIr folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: weedon folded on the Flop
Seat 7: xXHAASXx folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: DWetzel showed [9c 9s] and won (1670) with a full house, Nines full of Deuces
Seat 9: emivero mucked [Td Tc]
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| | | 62 | beastiemiked
ID: 36428317
Sat, Jun 17, 2006, 22:47
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I would probably just limp preflop. Other than that it looks fine. Might be able to extract a little more value on the river since it's apparent he has a pocket pair.
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| | | 63 | THK
ID: 2510332316
Sat, Jun 17, 2006, 23:39
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If anything...with 240 already in the pot I may have bet more on the flop since the flush came out...
I probably would have limped as well, but othe than that doesn't look bad.
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| | | 64 | beastiemiked
ID: 36428317
Sun, Jun 18, 2006, 23:30
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Ugh, I played in Stars and Party's 215's today for a tuneup for the WSOP. I now remember why I hate MTT's. Unless you make the final table all they do is p*ss you off.
#Game No : 4547245751
***** Hand History for Game 4547245751 *****
NL Texas Hold'em Trny:24968999 Level:18 Blinds-Antes(10000/20000-500) - Sunday, June 18, 22:35:53 ET 2006
Table Sunday Million Guaranteed(734491) Table #3 (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: SpeedFool ( $377059 )
Seat 2: smashed12332 ( $303402 )
Seat 4: DonDon22 ( $532274 )
Seat 5: thetribehasspoken ( $165760 )
Seat 9: Yaros13 ( $118906 )
Seat 6: matzen2105 ( $399621 )
Seat 3: Baldnbroke ( $400261 )
Seat 7: msilve3466 ( $109083 )
Seat 10: SkzVct ( $150349 )
Seat 8: poopscoot ( $433067 )
Trny:24968999 Level:18
Blinds-Antes(10000/20000-500)
SpeedFool posts ante [500].
smashed12332 posts ante [500].
Baldnbroke posts ante [500].
DonDon22 posts ante [500].
thetribehasspoken posts ante [500].
matzen2105 posts ante [500].
msilve3466 posts ante [500].
poopscoot posts ante [500].
Yaros13 posts ante [500].
SkzVct posts ante [500].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to smashed12332 [ Qd Qc ]
Baldnbroke folds.
DonDon22 folds.
thetribehasspoken is all-In [165260]
matzen2105 folds.
msilve3466 folds.
poopscoot calls [165260].
Yaros13 folds.
SkzVct folds.
SpeedFool folds.
smashed12332 is all-In [282902]
poopscoot calls [137642].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5d, 7s, 8c ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 4d ]
** Dealing River ** [ 8d ]
smashed12332 shows [ Qd, Qc ] two pairs, queens and eights.
thetribehasspoken shows [ As, 4s ] two pairs, eights and fours.
poopscoot shows [ Ad, Ac ] two pairs, aces and eights.
poopscoot wins 275284 chips from side pot #1 with two pairs, aces and eights.
poopscoot wins 510780 chips from the main pot with two pairs, aces and eights.
Player thetribehasspoken finished in 63 place and received $1600
Player smashed12332 finished in 62 place and received $1600
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| | | 65 | R9
Leader
ID: 02624472
Sun, Jun 18, 2006, 23:49
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My poor Dad. Got him 100$ to start playing in a few tournies on Pstars. He's been doing decent, placing in the money in 10 of his first 15 tournies. This tourney was his best so far though, and with a shot at heading into the final 100 with a solid stack, this happens to him (Raynad):
PokerStars Game #5296723733: Tournament #26172099, Hold'em No Limit - Level XI (600/1200) - 2006/06/18 - 23:36:20 (ET)
Table '26172099 2' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: tablerock57 (9060 in chips)
Seat 2: bostonbeagle (6876 in chips)
Seat 3: Raynad (10907 in chips)
Seat 4: 3ChipRipp (5625 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 5: Oklahomatim (32190 in chips)
Seat 6: shadycaz (9913 in chips)
Seat 7: dennisa (14835 in chips)
Seat 8: imtoomuch (7920 in chips)
Seat 9: klubfiend (5380 in chips)
tablerock57: posts the ante 75
bostonbeagle: posts the ante 75
Raynad: posts the ante 75
3ChipRipp: posts the ante 75
Oklahomatim: posts the ante 75
shadycaz: posts the ante 75
dennisa: posts the ante 75
imtoomuch: posts the ante 75
klubfiend: posts the ante 75
imtoomuch: posts small blind 600
klubfiend: posts big blind 1200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
tablerock57: folds
bostonbeagle: folds
Raynad: calls 1200
3ChipRipp: folds
Oklahomatim: raises 1200 to 2400
shadycaz: folds
dennisa: folds
imtoomuch: folds
klubfiend: calls 1200
Raynad: calls 1200
*** FLOP *** [7c 6c 6d]
klubfiend: checks
Raynad: bets 1200
Oklahomatim: raises 1200 to 2400
klubfiend: folds
Raynad: raises 6032 to 8432 and is all-in
Oklahomatim: calls 6032
Oklahomatim said, "nh"
*** TURN *** [7c 6c 6d] [Ad]
*** RIVER *** [7c 6c 6d Ad] [Ah]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Raynad: shows [7d 7h] (a full house, Sevens full of Aces)
Oklahomatim: shows [Ac Qs] (a full house, Aces full of Sixes)
Oklahomatim collected 25339 from pot
shadycaz said, "brutal"
Oklahomatim said, "unreal"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 25339 | Rake 0
Board [7c 6c 6d Ad Ah]
Seat 1: tablerock57 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: bostonbeagle folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Raynad showed [7d 7h] and lost with a full house, Sevens full of Aces
Seat 4: 3ChipRipp folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Oklahomatim showed [Ac Qs] and won (25339) with a full house, Aces full of Sixes
Seat 6: shadycaz folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: dennisa (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: imtoomuch (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: klubfiend (big blind) folded on the Flop
Besides the "wtf was that guy doing calling", my poker odds calculator says he had a 99.39% chance of winning. Just wow. :(
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| | | 66 | beastiemiked
ID: 18301915
Mon, Jun 19, 2006, 11:37
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Brutal beat, what was the buyin and top prize?
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| | | 67 | R9
Leader
ID: 02624472
Mon, Jun 19, 2006, 21:58
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Was only a 5$ buyin, with ~ 1800 people signed up. Top prize was aobut 1,000$.
It was more along the lines of this being the 1st tourney he was doing really well in then it was a chance to win big. He was laughing alot more then I would have been in his shoes. ;) I think it put me on tilt more then him!
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| | | 68 | DWetzel
ID: 563201922
Tue, Jun 20, 2006, 23:44
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It's mini-celebration night here...cracked $500 in the Pokerstars account for the first time after a very enjoyable night of stud hi/lo. Actually, counting the $50 I cashed out, I'd be up to $575. Not bad for starting with $16 about 4 months ago. :))
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| | | 69 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 564292610
Wed, Jun 21, 2006, 09:28
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DW...good job...keep it going...
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| | | 70 | swami
ID: 27230818
Wed, Jun 21, 2006, 19:17
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3rd hand of a micro limit tourney on Stars. I'd like some thoughts on what my move should be with this play. I'll post my thoughts, play and the results after some discussion.
Critique away!!
PokerStars Game #5323457373: Tournament#26603770, $3.00+$0.30 Hold'em
No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2006/06/21 - 19:07:00 (ET)
Table '26603770 139' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: bluvsfball (1500 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 2: bluffman 4 (1420 in chips)
Seat 3: mountnmanjim (1750 in chips)
Seat 4: mmmarder (1480 in chips)
Seat 5: woncman (1500 in chips)
Seat 6: David967 (1460 in chips)
Seat 7: DaSwam (1500 in chips)
Seat 8: OG14 (1570 in chips)
Seat 9: go2dabank (1320 in chips)
mmmarder: posts small blind 10
woncman: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DaSwam [8s 8c]
David967: raises 20 to 40
DaSwam: calls 40
OG14: calls 40
go2dabank: folds
bluvsfball: folds
bluffman 4: folds
mountnmanjim: folds
mmmarder: folds
woncman: calls 20
*** FLOP *** [4d 7h 7d]
woncman: checks
David967: bets 60
DaSwam: raises 140 to 200
OG14: folds
woncman: folds
David967: raises 140 to 340
DaSwam: calls 140
*** TURN *** [4d 7h 7d] [7s]
David967: bets 1080 and is all-in
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| | | 71 | biliruben
Leader
ID: 589301110
Wed, Jun 21, 2006, 19:27
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Small raise in early position. Maybe he has a higher pair or perhaps AJ-AQ, but he doesn't have a 7. He could also have a lower pair.
Probably too early to get a bead on what type of player he is, but I'd say 40% chance he has a higher over-pair, 20% lower pair, 30% A high or a draw, 10% bluff with something like KJ.
Your getting about 2-1 to call, which would be enough. I'd call.
Of course I'm biased, recently folding to 33 with wired 9s in a similar (pushed on the flop) position.
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| | | 72 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 15372923
Wed, Jun 21, 2006, 20:31
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I would call. Low limit single table tournament he could have anything...it is worth the opportunity to double up early and control the future action at the table. You could be beat...I would guess about 60/40 you are ahead in the hand.
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| | | 73 | Sludge
ID: 14411118
Wed, Jun 21, 2006, 21:39
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Was it a turbo? Makes a HUGE difference in the early action.
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| | | 74 | swami
ID: 27230818
Wed, Jun 21, 2006, 21:41
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Not a turbo, 15min blinds. I had no read on this guy what-so-ever.
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| | | 75 | THK
ID: 2510332316
Wed, Jun 21, 2006, 22:49
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Micro limits...
I say he is holding a higher pocket pair or a 7 for a few reasons.
#1) You are posting it lol
#2) Micro limits = misplayed hands
----b) Rasing just to 40 preflop is a weak raise, no matter the hand. Looks like he is holding a monster possibly and just wants to get a few callers. Obviously not a good play because that is too cheap and will still get junk hands involved. Or he is suited connectors and hoping he gets a cheap flop (?).
Just my guesses knowing PokerStars...
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| | | 76 | weykool
ID: 275291814
Wed, Jun 21, 2006, 23:41
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Micro:
He is playing 7-4os.
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| | | 77 | swami
ID: 75542011
Thu, Jun 22, 2006, 12:04
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Here's the remainder of the hand:
DaSwam: calls 1080
*** RIVER *** [4d 7h 7d 7s] [Qd]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
David967: shows [Th As] (three of a kind, Sevens)
DaSwam: shows [8s 8c] (a full house, Sevens full of Eights)
DaSwam collected 3010 from pot
I was floored when he turned that over. I put him on a small pair and 44 was wasted by the third 7 on the board. I was a bit scared of 99 here, but even then he would have raised more preflop with that hand seeing it as a MONSTER preflop. Anything larger than 99 would have warranted a bigger PFR and probably a bigger push to my re-raise after the flop. When the third 7 came on the turn I was able to eliminate his having a 7 and then felt like I had the best hand.
Moral of the story is that when he turned over the ATo I realized I had no idea what he was playing that way in that situation. He has some comments in his profile from me now.
Gotta love the micros!
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| | | 78 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 564292610
Thu, Jun 22, 2006, 13:15
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good play...about what I figured.
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| | | 79 | DWetzel
ID: 563201922
Sat, Jun 24, 2006, 23:32
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And verily, he did river the flush, and it was good...(Poor Hucklecat--I have no idea what the others are thinking, but that's why I play this. HMYAllin was, well, apparently drinking heavily--he'd raise with basically anything and stay in for a zero-outer as long as it could have conceivably been good...)
PokerStars Game #5355780539: 7 Card Stud Hi/Lo Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2006/06/24 - 22:17:03 (ET)
Table 'Dorado' 8-max
Seat 1: UncleLar36 ($11.55 in chips)
Seat 2: Rolex17 ($4.45 in chips)
Seat 3: Hucklecat ($23.55 in chips)
Seat 4: JimInches3 ($10.95 in chips)
Seat 5: HMYAllIn ($9.65 in chips)
Seat 6: DWetzel ($33.30 in chips)
Seat 7: GaryCowart ($11.75 in chips)
Seat 8: ananymous06 ($7.95 in chips)
UncleLar36: posts the ante $0.05
Rolex17: posts the ante $0.05
Hucklecat: posts the ante $0.05
JimInches3: posts the ante $0.05
HMYAllIn: posts the ante $0.05
DWetzel: posts the ante $0.05
GaryCowart: posts the ante $0.05
ananymous06: posts the ante $0.05
*** 3rd STREET ***
Dealt to UncleLar36 [8d]
Dealt to Rolex17 [5s]
Dealt to Hucklecat [Ts]
Dealt to JimInches3 [6s]
Dealt to HMYAllIn [Ks]
Dealt to DWetzel [6c 7c 8c]
Dealt to GaryCowart [8h]
Dealt to ananymous06 [3h]
ananymous06: brings-in low $0.10
UncleLar36: folds
Rolex17: calls $0.10
Hucklecat: raises $0.15 to $0.25
JimInches3: calls $0.25
HMYAllIn: raises $0.25 to $0.50
DWetzel: raises $0.25 to $0.75
GaryCowart: folds
ananymous06: calls $0.65
Rolex17: calls $0.65
Hucklecat: raises $0.25 to $1
Betting is capped
JimInches3: folds
HMYAllIn: calls $0.50
DWetzel: calls $0.25
ananymous06: calls $0.25
Rolex17: calls $0.25
*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to Rolex17 [5s] [3c]
Dealt to Hucklecat [Ts] [6h]
Dealt to HMYAllIn [Ks] [2c]
Dealt to DWetzel [6c 7c 8c] [2h]
Dealt to ananymous06 [3h] [Jh]
HMYAllIn: bets $0.25
DWetzel: calls $0.25
ananymous06: calls $0.25
Rolex17: calls $0.25
Hucklecat: raises $0.25 to $0.50
HMYAllIn: raises $0.25 to $0.75
DWetzel: calls $0.50
ananymous06: calls $0.50
Rolex17: calls $0.50
Hucklecat: raises $0.25 to $1
Betting is capped
HMYAllIn: calls $0.25
DWetzel: calls $0.25
ananymous06: calls $0.25
Rolex17: calls $0.25
*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to Rolex17 [5s 3c] [9s]
Dealt to Hucklecat [Ts 6h] [5d]
Dealt to HMYAllIn [Ks 2c] [9c]
Dealt to DWetzel [6c 7c 8c 2h] [Th]
Dealt to ananymous06 [3h Jh] [4s]
HMYAllIn: bets $0.50
DWetzel: calls $0.50
ananymous06: calls $0.50
Rolex17: calls $0.50
Hucklecat: calls $0.50
*** 6th STREET ***
Dealt to Rolex17 [5s 3c 9s] [Js]
Dealt to Hucklecat [Ts 6h 5d] [8s]
Dealt to HMYAllIn [Ks 2c 9c] [7s]
Dealt to DWetzel [6c 7c 8c 2h Th] [4c]
Dealt to ananymous06 [3h Jh 4s] [4h]
ananymous06: checks
Rolex17: checks
Hucklecat: checks
HMYAllIn: bets $0.50
DWetzel: raises $0.50 to $1
ananymous06: folds
Rolex17: calls $1
Hucklecat: calls $1
HMYAllIn: raises $0.50 to $1.50
DWetzel: raises $0.50 to $2
Betting is capped
Rolex17: calls $0.90 and is all-in
Hucklecat: calls $1
ananymous06 leaves the table
HMYAllIn: calls $0.50
*** RIVER ***
Dealt to DWetzel [6c 7c 8c 2h Th 4c] [Qc]
HMYAllIn: bets $0.50
DWetzel: raises $0.50 to $1
Hucklecat: calls $1
HMYAllIn: raises $0.50 to $1.50
DWetzel: raises $0.50 to $2
Betting is capped
Hucklecat: calls $1
HMYAllIn: calls $0.50
*** SHOW DOWN ***
DWetzel: shows [6c 7c 8c 2h Th 4c Qc] (HI: a flush, Queen high; LO: 8,7,6,4,2)
Hucklecat: mucks hand
HMYAllIn: mucks hand
DWetzel collected $3.15 from side pot
DWetzel collected $3.15 from side pot
Rolex17: mucks hand
DWetzel collected $9.90 from main pot
DWetzel collected $9.85 from main pot
Hucklecat said, "jeez"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $27.05 Main pot $19.75. Side pot $6.30. | Rake $1
Seat 1: UncleLar36 folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Rolex17 mucked [3d 4d 5s 3c 9s Js Qs]
Seat 3: Hucklecat mucked [Tc Td Ts 6h 5d 8s 9h]
Seat 4: JimInches3 folded on the 3rd Street
Seat 5: HMYAllIn mucked [7d Kd Ks 2c 9c 7s 2s]
Seat 6: DWetzel showed [6c 7c 8c 2h Th 4c Qc] and won ($26.05) with HI: a flush, Queen high; LO: 8,7,6,4,2
Seat 7: GaryCowart folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 8: ananymous06 folded on the 6th Street
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| | | 80 | DWetzel
ID: 563201922
Tue, Jun 27, 2006, 17:31
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Glad I was home sick today... this worked out OK!
PokerStars Tournament #27104886, No Limit Hold'em
Super Satellite
Buy-In: $15.00/$1.00
32 players
$170.00 added to the prize pool by PokerStars.com
Total Prize Pool: $650.00
Target Tournament #26878235 Buy-In: $650.00
1 tickets to the target tournament
Tournament started - 2006/06/27 - 14:42:00 (ET)
Dear DWetzel,
You finished the tournament in 1st place.
You qualified to play in Tournament #26878235 and are automatically registered for it.
See Tournament #26878235 Lobby for further details.
If you choose to unregister from this tournament your account will be credited
with 650.00 W$. W$ can be used to buy into any qualifying special PokerStars event.
Dear PokerStars player,
We have transferred W$650.00 from your account to 'CashmanBrian', and in exchange have transferred $520.00 from 'CashmanBrian' to you per your mutual requests.
Good luck to you both.
(Should I have checked to see if there was another broker out there? Maybe. Oh well!)
Sucking out on the final hand with A4 vs. JJ... priceless! WOOOOOO!
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| | | 81 | swami
ID: 27230818
Wed, Jun 28, 2006, 00:32
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WOW!! Nice job!!
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| | | 82 | DWetzel at library
ID: 85492811
Wed, Jun 28, 2006, 13:19
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Upon reflection and review... wow, I suck at holdem. I feel awful (well, sorta, hehe) for some of the disgusting beats/sheer luck I put on people to win that thing.
Highlights:
1. In the 3-man table (this was a double-shootout), rivered a gutshot to take a slight chip lead heads up. (Of course, about 3/4 of my chips went in on the river, but who's counting)?
2. A few hands later, with a modest chip lead, my J9 and his 96 met the T87 flop. End table 1. :)
3. With 4 people left, I was down to about 1400 chips and tried to steal UTG with the mighty 73o. (Stealing had been pretty effective, but perhaps I should have exercised a wee bit more discretion.) AJ got it in with me; the 337 flop helped JUST a bit.
4. Very next hand, against the now short-stacked opponent, he pushed in UTG and I called with A4d. He flipped over 55. Flop JJ6, and I called the turn 6 just before it hit. River blank. Down to 3-handed. :)
5. Won a nice coin flip with KQo against 55, all in preflop. Flop J94, turn T. :) Yay, me. Former chip leader now shortstacked.
6. Stole a very nice pot with 87o later. Button, raised 3xBB (that was plenty to get people to fold fairly often), called by BB. Flop 9TQ. Interesting. He bet about 1/2 pot, I called. Turn 9 (completing a rainbow), hmm. He bet 450 again (about 1/4 pot), I called. River deuce, he checked, I bet 1350 (about 1/2 pot), he folds.
7. Few hands later, pick up 44 in BB. SB (now the chip leader again after winning a few small pots) raises to 450 (still 75/150 blinds), I call.
Flop Q98, hmm. He bets 450, I raise to 1500, he calls. Turn Q, check, bet 1200, fold. Yay again.
8. Doubled up the short stack with K9o against his ATo. Flop JJK, turn A, river blank. Oh well. He went out next hand to the other guy when 66 ran into TT and then saw the KT4 flop. Heads up.
9. Almost dead even in chips (7470 vs. 7530), I pick up A3c in BB (blinds now 100/200). He calls, I raise to 800, he calls. Flop 457, one club. Bet 1600 (pot), he min-raises (eek)? I call (hmm). Turn 9h (competing a rainbow), I close my eyes and push (stoopid?), he folds.
10. Next hand, now up about 3:1 in chips, I get A4o. Raise to 600, he min-raises to 1000, I call. Flop T84 with 2 spades. He check, I bet 600, he min-raises to 1200, I call. Based on the last hand (fool that I am), I think I may be able to push him off this one too (of course, he has about 2/3 of his stack in, so I'm a schmo.) Turn 5. He pushes, and I can't possibly fold here, right? He flips JJ, oops. River A. OOPS.
Yes, I am a total donkey. I admit it. Not giving the cash back though. :P
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| | | 83 | biliruben
Leader
ID: 589301110
Wed, Jun 28, 2006, 13:24
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Man. I can only remember the hands I lose. Probably better that way... ;)
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| | | 84 | THK
ID: 2510332316
Wed, Jun 28, 2006, 13:47
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DW-
On pokerdb.com $650 W$ sells for $520 so that is probably standard...
THK
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| | | 85 | DWetzel from work
ID: 3316412
Wed, Jun 28, 2006, 14:01
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bili--I had the hand history for the tournament sent to me. My memroy isn't THAT good. :)
THK--Yeah, that's what I basically figured out. Makes me feel better.
Nice to basically double the bankroll within a week of hitting $500 for the first time though! :)
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| | | 86 | rockafellerskank
ID: 180352016
Fri, Jun 30, 2006, 21:16
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Played some big stakes against Mike Mizrachi (the amounts are real cash, not chips/tourney) on Absolute Poker. He was a very nice guy.
Here's a real hand. Won $1250 off a PRO. Fun Fun. He chatted after he has AQ (I assume no spades)
I didnt have the nerve to value bet him with those spades on board
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Stage #392857542: Holdem No Limit $10 - 2006-06-30 21:05:51 (ET)
Table: FIR AVE (Real Money) Seat #4 is the dealer
Seat 4 - TANZB ($403.75 in chips)
Seat 5 - STEEL61 ($1332 in chips)
Seat 6 - MIKEMIZRACHI ($1965 in chips)
Seat 8 - SKANKBOY1 ($1809 in chips)
Seat 9 - LAOSANITY ($397.50 in chips)
Seat 3 - BEARBUCK ($3334 in chips)
STEEL61 - Posts small blind $5
MIKEMIZRACHI - Posts big blind $10
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to SKANKBOY1 [8s 8c]
SKANKBOY1 - Calls $10
LAOSANITY - Folds
BEARBUCK - Folds
TANZB - Folds
STEEL61 - Calls $5
MIKEMIZRACHI - Raises $50 to $60
SKANKBOY1 - Calls $50
STEEL61 - Folds
*** FLOP *** [5d 7s 10s]
MIKEMIZRACHI - Bets $90
SKANKBOY1 - Raises $270 to $270
MIKEMIZRACHI - Raises $470 to $560
SKANKBOY1 - Calls $290
*** TURN *** [5d 7s 10s] [5s]
MIKEMIZRACHI - Checks
SKANKBOY1 - All-In $1189
MIKEMIZRACHI - Folds
SKANKBOY1 - returned ($1189) : not called
*** SHOW DOWN ***
SKANKBOY1 - Shows [8s 8c] (Two Pair, eights and fives)
SKANKBOY1 Collects $1247 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($1250) | Rake ($3)
Board [5d 7s 10s 5s]
Seat 3: BEARBUCK Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 4: TANZB (dealer) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 5: STEEL61 (small blind) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 6: MIKEMIZRACHI (big blind) Folded on the TURN
Seat 8: SKANKBOY1 collected Total ($1247) All-In HI:($1247) with Two Pair, eights and fives [8s 8c - P:8s,P:8c,B:5s,B:5d,B:10s]
Seat 9: LAOSANITY Folded on the POCKET CARDS
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| | | 87 | THK
ID: 2510332316
Fri, Jun 30, 2006, 21:54
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Nice work RFS, I probably run and hide against the re-raise on the flop!
THK
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| | | 88 | rockafellerskank
ID: 180352016
Fri, Jun 30, 2006, 22:01
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if he bets $500 +/- on turn, I probably puke. I had just watched him turn $5K into $14k in 60 mins on another table. When he checked, I knew I was good [for now], but still thought he might call and draw on me.
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| | | 89 | rockafellerskank
ID: 180352016
Fri, Jun 30, 2006, 22:45
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I kind of pissed of Mark Seif. I was sitting at the $25 NL table and he sat down. Before I realized it was him, we were H2H. It didn;t have the balls to play him heads up for 2.5k, but here was hand #1:
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Stage #392849251: Holdem No Limit $25 - 2006-06-30 22:39:18 (ET)
Table: THE GRINDER (Real Money) Seat #9 is the dealer
Seat 9 - SKANKBOY1 ($2400 in chips)
Seat 4 - MARK SEIF ($5000 in chips)
SKANKBOY1 - Posts small blind $10
MARK SEIF - Posts big blind $25
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to SKANKBOY1 [Kc Qh]
SKANKBOY1 - Raises $90 to $100
MARK SEIF - Calls $75
*** FLOP *** [10d 4s 6c]
MARK SEIF - Checks
SKANKBOY1 - Bets $125
MARK SEIF - Calls $125
*** TURN *** [10d 4s 6c] [Qd]
MARK SEIF - Checks
SKANKBOY1 - Bets $375
MARK SEIF - Folds
SKANKBOY1 - returned ($375) : not called
*** SHOW DOWN ***
SKANKBOY1 - Does not show
SKANKBOY1 Collects $449 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($450) | Rake ($1)
Board [10d 4s 6c Qd]
Seat 4: MARK SEIF (big blind) Folded on the TURN
Seat 9: SKANKBOY1 (dealer) (small blind) collected Total ($449) HI:($449) [Does not show]
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| | | 90 | THK
ID: 2510332316
Fri, Jun 30, 2006, 22:50
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Are Pro's required to use their real name on Absolute or something? Or do they want people to know it is them? Seems wierd to play with 2 pros in the same night if you aren't on Full Tilt.
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| | | 91 | rockafellerskank
ID: 180352016
Fri, Jun 30, 2006, 22:58
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AP has been promoting. They (Pros) have unique Icons, names and chat (in red text) so you can tell. They log into big balance tables and park 2K to 10K to play. They are real pros. They also play $75/$150 fixed limit. If I had balls. Seif is still waiting for fish to post as I type this. Honestly, I played 30 - 50 hands with MM, but didnt mean for go H2H with Seif.
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| | | 92 | THK
ID: 2510332316
Fri, Jun 30, 2006, 23:13
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I believe they are the real pros, that just seems unusual to play with 2 pros in the same night. It doesn't seem pros are very visible at most sites other than Full Tilt. Cool that AP is doing some promoting and making pros more visible.
Go play with Seif! ;-)
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| | | 93 | beastiemiked
ID: 36428317
Fri, Jun 30, 2006, 23:20
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RFS, nice!
Why are these guys playing online with all the side action going on at the WSOP? Especially the Grinder, from what I've heard he's down a couple hundy from online play.
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| | | 94 | swami
ID: 7659420
Tue, Jul 04, 2006, 22:01
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Check this one out. I had stolen a pot the hand before with the same PFR and then a continuation bet. Table was getting tired of me bullying and I knew he'd call with almost anything there. Oops...
PokerStars Game #5456891238: Tournament #27560361, $5.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2006/07/04 - 21:52:43 (ET)
Table '27560361 1' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: f-1Fitty00 (2785 in chips)
Seat 3: ChaseFrankli (540 in chips)
Seat 4: dudo78 (1530 in chips)
Seat 5: goli@th_A-D (1265 in chips)
Seat 6: DaSwam (4815 in chips)
Seat 8: Ecilop (1305 in chips)
Seat 9: ccwo (1260 in chips)
f-1Fitty00: posts small blind 25
ChaseFrankli: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DaSwam [Ac Ah]
dudo78: folds
goli@th_A-D: folds
DaSwam: raises 150 to 200
Ecilop: folds
ccwo: folds
f-1Fitty00: raises 150 to 350
ChaseFrankli: folds
DaSwam: raises 4465 to 4815 and is all-in
f-1Fitty00: calls 2435 and is all-in
*** FLOP *** [Js Jd 5h]
DaSwam said, "lol"
f-1Fitty00 said, "no way"
DaSwam said, "nh"
*** TURN *** [Js Jd 5h] [4h]
*** RIVER *** [Js Jd 5h 4h] [6d]
f-1Fitty00 said, "awesome bro"
Ecilop said, "vnh"
goli@th_A-D said, "nh"
*** SHOW DOWN ***
f-1Fitty00: shows [Jh Jc] (four of a kind, Jacks)
DaSwam: shows [Ac Ah] (two pair, Aces and Jacks)
f-1Fitty00 collected 5620 from pot
ChaseFrankli said, "vnhdude"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 5620 | Rake 0
Board [Js Jd 5h 4h 6d]
Seat 1: f-1Fitty00 (small blind) showed [Jh Jc] and won (5620) with four of a kind, Jacks
Seat 6: DaSwam showed [Ac Ah] and lost with two pair, Aces and Jacks
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| | | 95 | rockafellerskank
ID: 49136120
Sat, Jul 08, 2006, 00:05
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This is a first for me! Considering I was playing only $0.25 / $0.50 NL I got paid off OK.
FLOPPED THE ROYAL
Your hole cards are K Q
skankboy, it's your turn
Ten Pin: or my connection is
skankboy raises to $1
mo, it's your turn
mo raises to $2.50
Ten Pin calls
skankboy calls
The flop is J 10 A
mo checks
Ten Pin checks
skankboy checks
The turn is 7
mo checks
Ten Pin bets $2.50
skankboy calls
mo calls
The river is A
Tbird: its probably your connection
mo checks
Tbird: mines fine
Ten Pin bets $3.50
skankboy raises to $7
mo folds
Ten Pin calls
skankboy has K Q and a royal flush
skankboy wins $28 with a royal flush
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| | | 96 | swami
ID: 75542011
Mon, Jul 10, 2006, 10:15
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Very nice rock! I guess he held an A, or was it worse and he made a boat?
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| | | 97 | R9
Leader
ID: 02624472
Tue, Jul 11, 2006, 08:30
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Crazy hand!
#Game No : 55417483
***** Pacific Hand History for Game 55417483 *****
$1/$2 Blinds No Limit Hold'em - *** 07 11 05:46:11 2006
Table Centenario (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 10: muckfish ( $265.6 )
Seat 1: dogmeet ( $76.75 )
Seat 2: RNiner ( $200 )
Seat 3: LUCKYZIP ( $52.49 )
Seat 4: gotvoip ( $189.05 )
Seat 5: castaic2 ( $206.58 )
Seat 6: ckoz ( $60.12 )
Seat 7: Arivert ( $681.3 )
Seat 8: Armis80 ( $153.91 )
Seat 9: SEKing ( $310.71 )
SEKing posts small blind [$1].
muckfish posts big blind [$2].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RNiner [ Ks Kh ]
dogmeet folds.
RNiner raises [$8].
LUCKYZIP folds.
gotvoip raises [$16].
castaic2 calls [$16].
ckoz folds.
Arivert folds.
Armis80 folds.
SEKing calls [$15].
muckfish raises [$263.6].
RNiner folds.
gotvoip calls [$173.05].
castaic2 calls [$190.58].
SEKing folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5c, 4d, 10h ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 9c ]
** Dealing River ** [ 10c ]
** Summary **
muckfish shows [ Ad As ].
gotvoip shows [ Ah Ac ].
castaic2 shows [ Jd Js ].
muckfish shows [ Ad As ].
gotvoip shows [ Ah Ac ].
gotvoip collected [$293.57].
muckfish collected [$293.58].
muckfish collected [$35.06].
muckfish collected [$59.02].
I've seen AA vs. AA a few rare times, and AA vs. KK is always a sucky problem, but both in the same hand?
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| | | 98 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 564292610
Tue, Jul 11, 2006, 09:46
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wow good fold...I have yet to fold KK preflop...
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| | | 99 | R9
Leader
ID: 02624472
Tue, Jul 11, 2006, 09:50
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I thought hard about it, but both muckfish and gotvoip are Tight/Passive rocks, so I gave their re-raises alot of credit. In over 1000 hands vs. gotvoip this was his 1st re-raise preflop against me, so I already didn't like it much. The all-in from an even tighter rock actually made it kind of easy. castaic2 was just a sucker I'm afraid I'll never get to see again...
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| | | 100 | Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Tue, Jul 11, 2006, 11:29
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PTracker saved ya $200!
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| | | 102 | R9
Leader
ID: 02624472
Wed, Jul 12, 2006, 01:37
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Proof of online poker cheating!
Found this while looking for people's thoughts on that new bill. Fwiw, alot of people aren't too concerned, as similar bills have been shot down in the Senate before. Don't know much about the history of that, but even as a Canadian that law has the potential to seriously hurt the online poker industry as tons of players are American. (About half if that article is right.)
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| | | 103 | rockafellerskank
ID: 180352016
Fri, Jul 14, 2006, 23:12
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on break.... in 3rd place w/ 16 left. Winner gets 11K package to main event WSOP>
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| | | 104 | rockafellerskank
ID: 180352016
Sat, Jul 15, 2006, 00:09
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1 of 6 left
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| | | 105 | The Beezer
Leader
ID: 191202817
Sat, Jul 15, 2006, 00:31
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good luck rfs.
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| | | 106 | rockafellerskank
ID: 180352016
Sat, Jul 15, 2006, 01:49
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SKANK IS GOING TO VEGAS....
What a hand to win the tourney on......
Stage #446792900 Tourney ID 1150057 Holdem Multi ARP Tournament No Limit $1600 - 2006-07-15 01:37:06 (ET)
Table: 1 (Real Money) Seat #9 is the dealer
Seat 3 - SKANKBOY1 ($34127.50 in chips)
Seat 9 - NICE CATCH ($23372.50 in chips)
SKANKBOY1 - Ante $100
NICE CATCH - Ante $100
NICE CATCH - Posts small blind $800
SKANKBOY1 - Posts big blind $1600
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to SKANKBOY1 [Jh 9h]
NICE CATCH - Calls $800
SKANKBOY1 - Checks
*** FLOP *** [Kc 9c 9d]
SKANKBOY1 - Checks
NICE CATCH - Checks
*** TURN *** [Kc 9c 9d] [9s]
SKANKBOY1 - Checks
NICE CATCH - Bets $1600
SKANKBOY1 - Raises $3200 to $3200
NICE CATCH - Calls $1600
*** RIVER *** [Kc 9c 9d 9s] [Kh]
SKANKBOY1 - Bets $19200
NICE CATCH - All-In $18472.50
SKANKBOY1 - returned ($727.50) : not called
*** SHOW DOWN ***
SKANKBOY1 - Shows [Jh 9h] (Four of a kind, nines)
NICE CATCH - Mucks
SKANKBOY1 Collects $46745 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($46745)
Board [Kc 9c 9d 9s Kh]
Seat 3: SKANKBOY1 (big blind) won Total ($46745) HI:($46745) with Four of a kind, nines [Jh 9h - B:9s,P:9h,B:9d,B:9c,B:Kc]
Seat 9: NICE CATCH (dealer) (small blind) HI: [Mucked] [Kd 3d]
I hit 4 9's .... he hit Ks over 9's Unvelievebale!!!
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| | | 107 | biliruben
ID: 535193010
Sat, Jul 15, 2006, 02:37
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Wow.
Wow.
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| | | 108 | R9
Leader
ID: 02624472
Sat, Jul 15, 2006, 08:29
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Crazy hand! Poor guy is still probably wondering what hit him. Did he get anything for 2nd place?
We're going to have to start a Team RG at this rate. Get Guru to send you and bmd some t-shirts and hats!
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| | | 109 | swami
ID: 7659420
Sat, Jul 15, 2006, 08:51
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Very nice hand. What was the payday?
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| | | 110 | The Beezer
Leader
ID: 191202817
Sat, Jul 15, 2006, 08:56
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*applause*
Now that is awesome!
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| | | 111 | rockafellerskank
ID: 49136120
Sat, Jul 15, 2006, 09:11
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swami -- First place was a $10,000 entry plus $1000 expenses into WSOP main event begins 6/28.
R9 -- Sux for the guy I beat. He went into H2H a 4 to 1 chip leader on me. I won something like 12 of 15 small pots to even up, then boom!
It was an odd tourney. The entry fee was 25,000 "ARP points" or bonus points. The entry was about the amount of points I'd accumuate in 4-5 months of play. To put it into perspective.... I could have had 8 t-shirts or an entry into this tourney! 2nd through 9th place only paid a $100 +$8 entry into a WSOP qualifier on Sunday, so 1st was very important to get as opposed starting over tomorrow.
I'm not sure, but the fine print may require me to wear Absolute Poker gear.... I'll have to wait and see. I bought a lottery ticket 30 mins before this started. Maybe this is my lucky weekend?
beasitemiked ---- Let's meet for a beer before the tourney starts?
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| | | 112 | wiggs
Donor
ID: 04991311
Sat, Jul 15, 2006, 10:51
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Way to go RFS,
GL in Vegas. I will be watching for you and BMD.
wiggs
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| | | 113 | beastiemiked
ID: 36428317
Sat, Jul 15, 2006, 14:10
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Awesome, congrats! It's a pretty darn good feeling, eh? With Day 1A set to start 2 weeks from today, get those travel arrangements set up asap.
I'm definitely game for meeting up for a beer and/or possibly some 1/2 NL. I'm there from 7/27-8/5. I've got the last flight, Day 1D on 7/31, will be staying at the Monte Carlo. Drop me an email or hit me up on AIM.
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| | | 114 | rockafellerskank
ID: 49136120
Sat, Jul 15, 2006, 14:16
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bmd -- I got an e-mail that they are reviewing the tourney (I think that is SOP for a large prize). I'll let you know as soon as I hav emy starting date. I'm in PHX, so if flights get jammed up, I can always drive. I'll send you an e-mail when I have the details. I have another frined in PHX who got in via POker Stars so there amy be a few of us.
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| | | 115 | Seattle Zen
ID: 46315247
Sat, Jul 15, 2006, 16:01
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Awesome, RFS, just awesome. I had a feeling last night that you would be posting good news.
Have a great time.
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| | | 116 | KnicksFan
ID: 6428719
Sun, Jul 16, 2006, 18:16
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great job rfs!
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| | | 117 | THK
ID: 2510332316
Sun, Jul 16, 2006, 20:03
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Very nice. Congrats.
All of you going please take your laptops and keep us updated during the few hours you get away from the tourney or cash games! ;-)
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| | | 118 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 15372923
Sun, Jul 16, 2006, 23:53
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Congrats rfs...
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| | | 119 | swami
ID: 75542011
Mon, Jul 17, 2006, 11:07
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No kidding it sucked for the guy in 2nd place. He lost over 10K with a full house. I'm sure he was too much on tilt to make any headway in the next day's tourney.
Good luck in the Main Event. Think about the actual odds of turning 25K in frequent player points into $8.5mil.....
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| | | 120 | Farn
Sustainer
ID: 451044109
Mon, Jul 17, 2006, 13:47
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well done rfs. bring home the bucks (swami, I thought I heard they were expecting $10 million to be the first prize).
Can I make a small request? When the WSOP starts (even the small events) can we create a seperate thread for those spoiler results so I can avoid reading any results? I'll be excited for the guys from here playing but I'd rather wait until it airs.
Oh, and when ESPN.com posts results can somebody post a nonspoiler alert in this thread so I can avoid that page too?
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| | | 121 | THK
ID: 2510332316
Mon, Jul 17, 2006, 16:08
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Farn-
I have read short short recaps of the first 16 events. I am not really pleased. I will be sure and not post anything though. The first WSOP airing is on Tuesday I believe...
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| | | 122 | wolfer
ID: 575582311
Mon, Jul 17, 2006, 16:10
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It is, but it is a circuit event, just like last year.
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| | | 123 | rockafellerskank
ID: 49136120
Mon, Jul 17, 2006, 20:20
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An interesting twist...
Absolute Poker contacted me today to make arrangements. Although they prefer I play in the main event, I do have the option of collecting the $11,000 cash right now.
I'm 99.99% a cash game player and prefer Internet poker over live play. I've been very successful the past 12 months, but $10K is still a nice chunk of cash. If I take the cash award, I'd just mive up one or two levels in my cash play; it's not like, I'll pull it out and stick it in the bank anyway... so for me it comes down to what is the most likley "best" use for the money? Try to multiply in 2x or 3x via cash games or try to mega-multiply it in a tourney. Either has apotential downside of $0.00/
What would you do?
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| | | 124 | THK
ID: 2510332316
Mon, Jul 17, 2006, 20:40
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I would collect the cash rfs. However, I would go the WSOP for the experience and maybe play in a small event or a 1 table ~$1000 sat to try and get into the big one. No matter what you still come back up a nice chunk and have a great experience to go with it! Unless of course you can't get away for awhile to go to Vegas. Either way I wouldn't play in the main event on that $11,000. Personally I think the win just got even better.
THK
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| | | 125 | biliruben
Leader
ID: 589301110
Mon, Jul 17, 2006, 20:45
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I would give the seat to me. ;)
Really, man. Heysoos. This is a once in a lifetime, potentially life changing event.
I'd be playing tourneys night and day to gain experience, reading every book on the subject and maximizing my chance of getting as deep into that tourney as I could.
Sure, you are likely to walk away with nothing, but this is a freeroll! Enjoy it and go for the win with everything you've got!
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| | | 126 | biliruben
Leader
ID: 589301110
Mon, Jul 17, 2006, 20:52
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Also, if at all possible go get some live experience.
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| | | 127 | The Beezer
Leader
ID: 191202817
Mon, Jul 17, 2006, 21:38
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rfs, I think the right answer comes down to why you play poker. If it's just for the $$$, take the money and run. If it's more to see how good you can get at the game and to test yourself, I think you'd do yourself a disservice by not going to Vegas. No right or wrong answer here as long as you understand why you entered the satellite tourney in the first place...
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| | | 128 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 15372923
Tue, Jul 18, 2006, 00:14
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Take the money...that is an expensive lottery ticket...even if you play perfect poker the odds of winning the main event are nearly nil.
If you want to play a WSOP tournament go to vegas and play one of the 1500 NL or similar events and keep some money...they still pay out around 500K if you win...and as a bonus you do not get all of the celebrity of a main event win.
I would also recommend not jumping levels just because you can afford to...probably better off earning your way up there so you are prepared to win...pad your bankroll but definitely withdraw some...enjoy it or save it.
I mainly play for the $$$$ and while I may dream about winning a huge tournament (probably help if I even played tournaments) my real goal is to cash checks. Just my opinion...
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| | | 129 | beastiemiked
ID: 36428317
Tue, Jul 18, 2006, 01:31
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rfs, I'm sure Absolute offers player point tourney's for cash. You played in the WSOP qualifier for a chance to play in the Main Event. This year it's going to be bigger than ever and with the pending legislation it might not ever be as big as this one.
Even if I bust out without making it far I won't come away a loser. I'll have the experience, the story and the memories of playing in the world's greatest poker event.
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| | | 130 | swami
ID: 75542011
Tue, Jul 18, 2006, 09:39
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Take the cash and invest some in attempting to qualify again online or live (where have I heard that advice before?). Then again, don't listen to the individual who passed on THE VERY SAME ADVICE and blew his entry in the Stars million in less than 2 hours of play.
re: 120 - You are correct. The 8.5 number must have seeped into my brain from the $85mil expected total prize pool.
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| | | 131 | R9
Leader
ID: 02624472
Tue, Jul 18, 2006, 09:50
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I would definitely go rfs. Once in a lifetime, and the trip should be an absolute blast. I look at these prize packages as a sweet Vegas vacation, that just happens to have a WSOP Main Event ticket attached. A loss there certainly wouldn't ruin my vacation!
Beezer's advice is best though. We all play for different reasons, and you have to decide where your reasons fit. If you don't think you could enjoy the tourney without thinking about the 10,000$ you passed up, take the money. If you don't think you could play the next two months without wondering how you'd have done had you gone, then you really need to go. :)
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| | | 132 | biliruben
Leader
ID: 589301110
Tue, Jul 18, 2006, 14:56
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CEO of BetOnSports indicted.
Kevin Smith, a spokesman for BetOnSports, said Carruthers and other company officials had no idea that there was an indictment.
"Certainly had they told us, we would have been more than willing to negotiate with them and work on whatever these charges are," Smith said. "There wouldn't have been any need to nab him while he's waiting on a layover for a flight."
Christ. Just tell them what the frickin' bribe is, and move on to something important.
I'm getting really darn sick of grand-standing politicians.
Tax the businesses, toss 10% towards addiction programs, pocket 10% yourself and give the rest to up teacher salaries. Don't toss the CEOs in jail. That solves nothing other than to drive business to the competition.
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| | | 133 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 564292610
Tue, Jul 18, 2006, 15:43
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Kind of ridiculous all of the noise the feds are making over internet gaming these days...seems like there are bigger issues going on in the world these days...you think?
In a perfect world they would legitimize it and let US companies into the space...regulate it...put age verification procedures in place...please send me a W2G at then end of the year and reform the tax code so it is easier to claim wins/losses...the current tax code regarding gambling is ridiculous...gov is missing out on a big opportunity here to collect a lot of tax revenue...
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| | | 134 | biliruben
Leader
ID: 589301110
Tue, Jul 18, 2006, 15:46
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Exactly.
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| | | 136 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 564292610
Tue, Jul 18, 2006, 17:09
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The beauty in internet poker and if they did regulate it is they would know exactly how much money is won/loss. They could send me a W2 at the end of the year with exactly to the penny what I won/loss.
US based casinos would be all over this if they could get in the marketplace and would probably do 100% of the work for the government as far as age verification, documentation, etc...they would be licking their chops to get a part of the action.
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| | | 137 | rockafellerskank
ID: 49136120
Thu, Jul 20, 2006, 20:01
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Interesting e-mail I got from a site today that i signed up for but never funded:
Dear Eurobet Customer,
Please be advised that in the light of recent actions by US regulators, Eurobet has regretfully taken the decision to cease taking any business through its websites from U.S. residents with immediate effect. U.S. residents will no longer be able to transact with our websites and all accounts held by U.S. residents have now been closed.
We are contacting you because we believe that, based on the personal details you have provided us, you are a US resident and therefore affected by this decision.
Where we already have your payment details we will refund any outstanding balance using that method within 7 days from today. If we do not have the necessary details please contact us on +44 1483 773224 or via email at uscustomerservice@eurobet.com to confirm how you wish any existing balances on your account should be repaid including the appropriate financial details.
We commit to processing such refund with 7 days of receiving your payment instructions.
On behalf of the entire Eurobet team we apologise for the inconvenience caused and thank you for your previous custom.
Kind regards,
Emma Jordan
Head of Services
Eurobet.com
I'm sure they are referring to the indictments of the betonsports.com guys.
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| | | 138 | beastiemiked
ID: 36428317
Thu, Jul 20, 2006, 23:07
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Well I know I'm not the only one waiting for you to post whether you decided to play or not. The suspense is killing me.
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| | | 139 | THK
ID: 2510332316
Thu, Jul 20, 2006, 23:18
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I'll second that...
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| | | 140 | rockafellerskank
ID: 180352016
Thu, Jul 20, 2006, 23:44
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Oh. I took the $11K cash.
A few thoughts.... I play to win money. Cash games are my bread and butter. Tourneys are an afterthought. I only played the WSOP tourney cause the overlay was so huge. I'd have paid the same thing $0/25,000 VIP points (equiv to 8 t-shirts!) if the prize was a car, cruise or WSOP, so I wasn't playing for a WSOP as a dream per se.
For me, it's all about math for me. I can grow the $11K in cash games witha probability of 80%. The chances of me getting a pay day from WSOP is about 8%. I've been killing the $1 NL game on AP for a while now, winning much more inch-by-inch than the $11k. I was going to move up a level but this makes the variance more tolerable.
The atmosphere or experience isn't worth much to me. Now, all that being said, I'm probably going to play in one of the $1500s-- that's pleny of excitement for me.
I gave them the answer yesterday and I'm supposed to have the cash by tomorrow. Of course..... i still have the option of driving to Vegas and doing a last minute cash entry!
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| | | 141 | The Beezer
Leader
ID: 191202817
Fri, Jul 21, 2006, 07:01
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Sounds rock-solid, rfs. Nothing wrong with that.
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| | | 142 | THK
ID: 2510332316
Sun, Jul 23, 2006, 12:48
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Now, all that being said, I'm probably going to play in one of the $1500s-- that's pleny of excitement for me.
Like I said! ;-) I think that is the best idea. You still end up a big chunk, have some fun, and get a WSOP story.
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| | | 143 | THK
ID: 2510332316
Sun, Jul 23, 2006, 19:54
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SEMI-BUT NOT REALLY SPOILER
One youngster is very happy he is of age this year for the WSOP! ;-) That is less of a spoiler than the headline ESPN is running so I figured it was ok!
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| | | 144 | beastiemiked
ID: 36428317
Mon, Jul 24, 2006, 00:07
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Meh :(
#Game No : 4795605747
***** Hand History for Game 4795605747 *****
NL Texas Hold'em Trny:26405384 Level:21 Blinds-Antes(30000/60000-1500) - Sunday, July 23, 23:55:26 ET 2006
Table Sunday Million Guaranteed(768341) Table #1 (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 4: Pulkowo ( $2675851 )
Seat 5: AdvConKbot ( $1153299 )
Seat 6: smashed12332 ( $442800 )
Seat 9: rcrane66 ( $1964533 )
Seat 3: RPRSP ( $932628 )
Seat 7: ihategravity ( $2423395 )
Seat 8: magician ( $2639938 )
Seat 1: RaiseAndPray ( $580031 )
Seat 2: zdepew2000 ( $2812482 )
Trny:26405384 Level:21
Blinds-Antes(30000/60000-1500)
RaiseAndPray posts ante [1500].
zdepew2000 posts ante [1500].
RPRSP posts ante [1500].
Pulkowo posts ante [1500].
AdvConKbot posts ante [1500].
smashed12332 posts ante [1500].
ihategravity posts ante [1500].
magician posts ante [1500].
rcrane66 posts ante [1500].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to smashed12332 [ As 6h ]
RaiseAndPray folds.
zdepew2000 folds.
RPRSP folds.
Pulkowo folds.
AdvConKbot folds.
smashed12332 is all-In [441300]
ihategravity calls [441300].
magician folds.
rcrane66 folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Td, 2c, 6d ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Jc ]
** Dealing River ** [ 5h ]
smashed12332 shows [ As, 6h ] a pair of sixes.
ihategravity shows [ Kh, Kd ] a pair of kings.
ihategravity wins 986100 chips from the main pot with a pair of kings.
Player smashed12332 finished in 19 place and received $2477.58
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| | | 145 | biliruben
Leader
ID: 589301110
Mon, Jul 24, 2006, 14:52
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So you were small-stack and got swatted trying to make a move with A-6 in a large tourney, but still made some jack?
Just trying to make sure my interpretation is correct here. I'm online illiterate.
How much was the buy-in?
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| | | 146 | THK
ID: 2510332316
Mon, Jul 24, 2006, 15:02
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Buying was $215 -- its the Sunday big one on PokerStars.
Sucks to run into that in such late position later in the tournament. Nice run though. How far did the guy go that busted you?
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| | | 147 | beastiemiked
ID: 18301915
Mon, Jul 24, 2006, 15:24
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Bili, it was the Party Poker's big Sunday multi. Entry is $215, 5000+ entrants, 1st place was 170k+.
THK, I think the guy was in 3rd when they made a deal 6 handed.
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| | | 148 | THK
ID: 2510332316
Mon, Jul 24, 2006, 15:41
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Doh...Party Poker, Poker Stars, whatever...lol
Still nice work bmd..
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| | | 149 | biliruben
Leader
ID: 589301110
Mon, Jul 24, 2006, 15:57
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Yeah - nice job!
Down to 4 folks in a 50 person tourney last night, I was in a similar situation. Ad 3d, I push and run into JJ vs the big-stack. Caught my flush, and boy was she pissed. Doubled-up and won it all for 5 hundy or so.
This tourney lasted 3 hours and my attention span was flagging by the end. Of course drinking all day in the sun before that watching the sweet, sweet decimation of the Red Sox down at The Safe didn't help. ;)
I can't even fathom how long a 5000 person tourney lasts. You do that in one day?
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| | | 150 | beastiemiked
ID: 18301915
Mon, Jul 24, 2006, 16:47
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Tourney started at 4:30 PM ET, it probably last 1-2 hours longer after I busted. The structure is pretty good and the amount of hands you get in online in one hour is probably double compared to live tourney's.
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| | | 151 | Farn
Sustainer
ID: 451044109
Wed, Jul 26, 2006, 23:20
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Do not read espn.com if you want to avoid poker spoilers. They currently have one posted.
Would it be possible for people to bump this thread when ESPN (or any sports or news site that gets lots of views) posts WSOP results for those of us wanting to avoid them?
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| | | 152 | rockafellerskank
ID: 180352016
Wed, Jul 26, 2006, 23:47
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read ESPN.com? Are you kidding? I can't FIND the story there. I can't imagine a site with worse graphics the ability to navigate?
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| | | 153 | Farn
Sustainer
ID: 451044109
Thu, Jul 27, 2006, 00:00
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it was a slow night on the internet rfs. I got bored and went to their page. Everyone makes mistakes.
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| | | 154 | weykool
ID: 275291814
Thu, Jul 27, 2006, 11:20
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Bili:
To give you an idea at how long a tourney lasts typically in a $30 tourn you woll lose 49-51% during the first hour.
The percentage will vary depending on the buy-in.
A $2 tourn might lose 60% where a $100 might only lose 45%.
During the next 30-40 mins you will lose half the players that were left at the first break.
What this means is a 5000 player tourn should last about 2 hours longer than a 1000 player tourn.
In the end the blinds will increase the pace of the tourn.
There are more chips to be won but the increase to the blinds force the players to make bets that they might not make in the earlier rounds.
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| | | 155 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 564292610
Thu, Jul 27, 2006, 13:24
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A Sunday school teacher said to her children "We have been learning how
powerful kings and queens were in the Bible times. But, there is a higher
power, Can anyone tell me what it is?
One child blurted out, "Aces!"
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| | | 156 | rockafellerskank
ID: 180352016
Thu, Jul 27, 2006, 13:27
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A poker joke:
Why did they name the game "poker"?
Cause the word "fv*k" was already taken.
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| | | 157 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 15372923
Sun, Jul 30, 2006, 01:33
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careful of WSOP spoilers on ESPN...
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| | | 158 | Farn
Sustainer
ID: 451044109
Sun, Jul 30, 2006, 09:35
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thanks TRS. I decided 2 days ago to avoid ESPN.com completely for another week or so after I saw the headline that said something like 9k people entered the main event.
I really hope I can avoid finding out who wins but I suspect SportsCenter will zap me eventually.
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| | | 159 | THK
ID: 2510332316
Sun, Jul 30, 2006, 10:46
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Yea...Sportscenter will likely announce the winner. Here is something to watch for: Last year they announced Hachem as the #1 on the top 10. Not sure if they will give it real time or keep it in the Top 10.... If you know it is over, maybe avoid the top 10?
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| | | 160 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 15372923
Sun, Jul 30, 2006, 11:53
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Best to avoid ESPN all together because I am sure the scroll will also announce the winner.
Just really hard to avoid as pretty much all of the major networks will do some sort of story on the series and the winner will likely do the talk show circuit.
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| | | 161 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 96212713
Tue, Aug 01, 2006, 13:27
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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Prospects have dimmed for swift U.S. Senate passage
of a bill to outlaw most forms of Internet gambling as industry trade
groups and lawmakers raise objections, congressional sources said on
Wednesday.
Efforts to move a House-passed measure through the Senate have run into
opposition from lobbyists representing casino owners and horse- and
dog-racing interests in recent days. Some Republican senators have broken
ranks and placed "holds" on it, the sources said.
"The House-passed bill is not going to pass the Senate," said one source
who is knowledgeable about the legislation, adding that changes must be
made to win sufficient support.
The industry is a major contributor to some congressional campaigns and
sources said opposition could stir up new trouble among senators such as
Republicans Jim Bunning and Mitch McConell of Kentucky or Democrat Harry
Reid of Nevada.
The bill would prohibit most forms of Internet gambling and make it
illegal for banks and credit card companies to make payments to online
gambling sites.
The Republican-backed measure has been criticized by some as an
election-year appeal to the party's conservative base.
Supporters of a crackdown on Internet gambling say legislation is needed
to clarify that a 1961 federal law banning interstate telephone betting
also covers an array of online gambling.
Backers of the legislation, led by Arizona Republican Sen. Jon Kyl, have
been trying to build support and resolve differences as the Senate focuses
on other legislative matters and gets ready for a month-long break.
However, congressional aides said some Republican senators have placed
holds on the bill, and that Democratic senators may eventually do so as
well depending on how talks proceed.
The bill was not among the priorities outlined by Senate Majority Leader
Bill Frist, a Tennessee Republican, during a session with reporters on
Tuesday in which he laid out measures he hopes to wrap up before the
August vacation.
Any member of the Senate may place a secret "hold" on legislation, which
prevents it from being brought up for a vote until concerns about the
measure are resolved.
One aide said concerns had been voiced by representatives of casinos as
well as horse-racing tracks, dog tracks and lotteries about limited
exemptions in the bill.
So far in 2006, the casino and gambling industry has given more than $6.4
million to federal candidates, according to the nonprofit Center for
Responsive Politics. That amount places it 30th among the more than 80
industries tracked by the organization.
"There is always a chance that differences can be resolved and the Senate
could vote before the August recess, but not a very good one at this
point," one aide said.
In order to win support, Kyl may have to amend the Senate bill and ask
House lawmakers to revisit a similar amended version, other sources said.
Supporters could take up the bill when the Senate reconvenes in September.
But it would be difficult to work out changes in time for members of
Congress to return to their districts to campaign before the November
elections.
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| | | 163 | biliruben
Leader
ID: 589301110
Tue, Aug 01, 2006, 13:34
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If they don't get it done before the elections, there is little reason for them to pander after the elections.
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| | | 164 | THK
ID: 2510332316
Tue, Aug 01, 2006, 14:06
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So in the end, did any other gurupie play in the WSOP besides bmd? And bmd - any updates on your plight if you have access?
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| | | 165 | DMAN
ID: 291081815
Tue, Aug 01, 2006, 16:42
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I don't remember beastie's name, but here's the list of those who made it through yesterday, link
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| | | 166 | Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Tue, Aug 01, 2006, 16:52
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Guys - don't forget we have a Spoiler thread - many have commented that they don't want ANY info whatsoever.
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| | | 167 | beastiemiked
ID: 296223021
Wed, Aug 02, 2006, 02:25
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I went out at about 6 yesterday. I was up to 15k as I was getting good cards the first 2 levels. Made some bluffs at the wrong time and couldn't hit any of my draws after the 2nd break. Got my last 3k in preflop with KK but was busted by AQ, flopped a set but he backdoored the straight.
Overall, it was a lot of fun. I'm a little disappointed in how I played. My table was fairly weak tight so I started lagging it up. It worked really well on level 2 but I made the critical mistake of not being aware of my image and ran 1 too many bluffs on level 3. I also failed to stretch value out of some of my hands.
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| | | 168 | swami
ID: 75542011
Thu, Aug 03, 2006, 08:53
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Congrats on the attempt bmd. Now you can return next year as an 'experienced' WSOP player.
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| | | 169 | swami
ID: 7659420
Thu, Aug 03, 2006, 23:14
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Thoughts on what my move should be here. This guy was pretty loose and would raise pre flop, call a post flop raise and then fold if the turn bricked.
PokerStars Game #5789197618: Hold'em No Limit ($0.02/$0.05) - 2006/08/03 - 22:48:22 (ET)
Table 'Thuban' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Junk Dog Len ($2.23 in chips)
Seat 2: brett712 ($3.68 in chips)
Seat 4: m943 ($2.78 in chips)
Seat 5: ALLTOEASY ($12.09 in chips)
Seat 6: herkum ($10 in chips)
Seat 7: BLovely ($6.27 in chips)
Seat 8: HaraldSpawn ($6.09 in chips)
Seat 9: DaSwam ($7.93 in chips)
brett712: posts small blind $0.02
m943: posts big blind $0.05
herkum: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DaSwam [5c Ac]
ALLTOEASY: calls $0.05
herkum: checks
BLovely: calls $0.05
HaraldSpawn: folds
DaSwam: calls $0.05
Junk Dog Len: raises $0.15 to $0.20
brett712: folds
m943: folds
ALLTOEASY: calls $0.15
herkum: calls $0.15
BLovely: calls $0.15
DaSwam: calls $0.15
*** FLOP *** [3c 2d 4s]
ALLTOEASY: checks
herkum: checks
BLovely: bets $6.07 and is all-in
DaSwam: ?????
I'll posst results later.
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| | | 170 | Sludge
ID: 45541422
Thu, Aug 03, 2006, 23:17
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Well, you've got second nut. What other move is there?
Lemme guess, board paired on the river giving him the boat?
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| | | 171 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 96212713
Fri, Aug 04, 2006, 11:25
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You have to call/all-in...you have second nuts...if he has 5-6 tell him NH and move on...but no way you can put him on 5-6 as it would be a terrible play with the nuts and no real draws on board to bet everyone out of the pot...
You are a heavy favorite against any hand except 5-6. insta-call...
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| | | 172 | swami
ID: 75542011
Fri, Aug 04, 2006, 14:38
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Worse.
DaSwam: raises $1.66 to $7.73 and is all-in
Junk Dog Len: calls $2.03 and is all-in
ALLTOEASY: folds
herkum: folds
*** TURN *** [3c 2d 4s] [5s]
*** RIVER *** [3c 2d 4s 5s] [Kc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
BLovely: shows [3d 6d] (a straight, Deuce to Six)
DaSwam: shows [5c Ac] (a straight, Ace to Five)
BLovely collected $7.68 from side pot
Junk Dog Len: mucks hand [Qc Qd]
DaSwam said, "lucky lucky"
BLovely collected $6.81 from main pot
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| | | 173 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 96212713
Fri, Aug 04, 2006, 14:53
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He had 3 outs...really can't do anything about that except hope the same player make a donkey move like that again next time...
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| | | 174 | swami
ID: 75542011
Fri, Aug 04, 2006, 16:37
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Without a doubt. I took some of it back later when I flopped two pair (78) to his over pair (TT) after he made the same move. I was simply pointing out the humor in that play.
I think we should start a thread titled "Guess What The Donkey Has" and post these types of hands. Just to bring some humor to the day.
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| | | 176 | beastiemiked
ID: 36428317
Mon, Aug 07, 2006, 14:58
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Ugh, had another close call last night. Finished 22nd in Stars Million guaranteed. I guess it's pretty bad complaning about winning $2900 but it sucks when the FT is so close. Hopefully, my luckbox will continue.
PokerStars Game #5825800853: Tournament #28499018, $200+$15 Hold'em No Limit - Level XXVII (20000/40000) - 2006/08/06 - 23:42:14 (ET)
Table '28499018 637' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 2: Himclip85 (698228 in chips)
Seat 3: beastiemiked (200796 in chips)
Seat 4: lee676 (593062 in chips)
Seat 5: BOKPOWER (497115 in chips)
Seat 7: irishdenis (268685 in chips)
Seat 8: Aylesbury (627262 in chips)
Seat 9: johhnycash12 (272038 in chips)
Himclip85: posts the ante 2000
beastiemiked: posts the ante 2000
lee676: posts the ante 2000
BOKPOWER: posts the ante 2000
irishdenis: posts the ante 2000
Aylesbury: posts the ante 2000
johhnycash12: posts the ante 2000
lee676: posts small blind 20000
BOKPOWER: posts big blind 40000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to beastiemiked [4h 4s]
irishdenis: folds
Aylesbury: folds
johhnycash12: folds
Himclip85: folds
beastiemiked: raises 158796 to 198796 and is all-in
lee676: raises 392266 to 591062 and is all-in
BOKPOWER: folds
*** FLOP *** [As Qh Tc]
*** TURN *** [As Qh Tc] [5s]
*** RIVER *** [As Qh Tc 5s] [Qd]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
lee676: shows [3c Ah] (two pair, Aces and Queens)
beastiemiked: shows [4h 4s] (two pair, Queens and Fours)
lee676 collected 451592 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 451592 | Rake 0
Board [As Qh Tc 5s Qd]
Seat 2: Himclip85 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: beastiemiked (button) showed [4h 4s] and lost with two pair, Queens and Fours
Seat 4: lee676 (small blind) showed [3c Ah] and won (451592) with two pair, Aces and Queens
Seat 5: BOKPOWER (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: irishdenis folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Aylesbury folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: johhnycash12 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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| | | 177 | Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Mon, Aug 07, 2006, 15:00
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Calling (actually raising the 1 person yet to act) 1/3 your stack with A-3o? Geeeeeeeez.
Nice run bmd. As you said, $2900 ain't bad.
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| | | 178 | swami
ID: 75542011
Mon, Aug 07, 2006, 15:25
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Strange call on his part, but it was still a great run. Nice to add $2900 to your roll. for the level and the stage of the tourney you were in, maybe this one qualifies for the donkey thread?
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| | | 179 | beastiemiked
ID: 36428317
Mon, Aug 07, 2006, 17:08
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Actually his call wasn't too bad. I was pushing a huge range here as I was probably the shortest stack left in the tourney. The next pay jump was at 18th($3100->$5200) and it's highly unlikely I could or want to fold my way to that spot. He took awhile to make the decision so I knew he agonized over it.
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| | | 181 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 15372923
Mon, Aug 07, 2006, 23:05
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Gotta love these hands when you are on the right side...
table Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da
Table Type: Normal (Non-Tournament)
Game Name: Texas Hold'em
Stakes: $2.50/$5.00
Active Players: 7
Total Pot: $955.00
Rake: $3.00
Net Pot: $952.00
ndfan190 has the dealer button
MactanTRS posts small blind ($2.50)
whatsupdog posts big blind ($5.00)
fiveacesfull calls for $5.00
Tuukkis folds
Bigt2k4 folds
ndfan190 folds
MactanTRS calls for $2.50 (7c Jc)
whatsupdog checks
Dealing Flop 9c 8c 3c
MactanTRS checks
whatsupdog checks
fiveacesfull checks
Dealing Turn Qs
MactanTRS bets $20.00
whatsupdog calls for $20.00
fiveacesfull folds
Dealing River 10c!
MactanTRS bets $50.00
whatsupdog raises for $100.00
MactanTRS raises for $400.00
whatsupdog went all-in for $350.00
MactanTRS shows cards
whatsupdog mucks cards (Ac 5c)
MactanTRS shows Straight Flush, winning $952.00
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| | | 182 | Farn
Sustainer
ID: 451044109
Tue, Aug 08, 2006, 00:27
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I don't want to open the spoiler thread or go to any poker website sooooo....
is the WSOP over? Main Event? Tournament of Champs?
Please try to respond without giving any spoilers at all. Thanks.
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| | | 183 | beastiemiked
ID: 36428317
Tue, Aug 08, 2006, 01:10
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No, FT is on Thursday, down to 27 right now.
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| | | 184 | jill
ID: 3970913
Wed, Aug 09, 2006, 14:02
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Skank man...
My friend went down there to play the vegas tourney but he couldn't get in.. I guess the main event was still going on so they had limited seats
did you get spanked skank?
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| | | 185 | weykool
ID: 41750315
Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 13:58
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A special thanks to someone:
I want to thank who ever posted on here about playing heads up.
The advice was very simple:
"When you are in the small blind.....never fold".
Party poker has recently offered heads up sit and go mini tournaments and this little piece of information has allowed me to win about 65%-70% of the matches I enter.
Without this information I estimate I would be lucky to win 60%.
It keeps the pressure on your opponent and he never knows if you have strength and just called with nothing.
It also takes away some of the decision making.
There are plenty of decisions in headup because you are in every hand.
You can go crazy guessing and second guessing yourself and its nice not having the make that one extra decision.
You still have to play solid poker to win but following this advice has been a real advantage for me.
Again...thanks to the Guru poster who offered this advice.
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| | | 186 | biliruben
Leader
ID: 589301110
Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 14:10
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Great advice. Also, make sure to mix it up. Sometimes raise with nothing. Sometimes just call with a strong hand. Keep them guessing and you'll chip away, stealing blinds and then often get them all in when it's in your favor.
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| | | 187 | R9
ID: 36251821
Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 16:51
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#Game No : 2045161147
***** Pacific Hand History for Game 2045161147 *****
$1/$2 Blinds No Limit Hold'em - *** 08 10 16:05:03 2006
Table Bali Hai (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 10: laysdown ( $196 )
Seat 1: busperth ( $62.15 )
Seat 2: NicMagic ( $58.68 )
Seat 3: RNiner ( $209.4 )
Seat 4: buddyg23 ( $99.24 )
Seat 5: FxUxUP ( $33.05 )
Seat 6: drunkkid ( $160 )
Seat 7: FLAGG93 ( $200 )
Seat 9: halesite ( $100 )
FLAGG93 posts small blind [$1].
halesite posts big blind [$2].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RNiner [ Ad Ah ]
laysdown folds.
busperth folds.
NicMagic folds.
RNiner raises [$7].
buddyg23 folds.
FxUxUP folds.
drunkkid folds.
FLAGG93 folds.
halesite calls [$5].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5h, As, Qh ]
halesite checks.
RNiner checks.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 8d ]
halesite checks.
RNiner bets [$25].
halesite raises [$50].
RNiner calls [$25].
** Dealing River ** [ Qc ]
halesite bets [$43].
RNiner calls [$43].
** Summary **
RNiner shows [ Ad Ah ].
halesite shows [ Qs Qd ].
halesite shows [ Qs Qd ].
halesite collected [$197].
He actually berated me afterwards for slowplaying and allowing him to catch up. lol! Been a rough week, thats the 2nd one-outer in a big pot so far. Also seem to be running into sets with my TPTK at a ridiculous rate. Variance sucks. ;)
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| | | 188 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 4270911
Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 19:20
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You had no choice but to go broke in that hand...no way he gives up his set Qs whatever you bet on the flop/turn. Personally I push in when he raises the turn...in case he has a draw you got to get all his money in the pot...
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| | | 189 | Sludge
ID: 45541422
Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 19:46
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The guy... berated you... for slow playing?
So he's basically saying he'd lay down a set to a big raise on that flop?
Nobody deserves to be berated for that hand. He deserves it for ridiculing your play, however.
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| | | 190 | biliruben
Leader
ID: 589301110
Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 19:50
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Agreed. Circulatoraly, any twit who thinks you shouldn't slowplay a set of aces is exactly the guy you should be slowplaying a set of aces against.
Against someone with a bit of brains, you might just try and represent a pair or a flush draw, and see where that takes you.
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| | | 191 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 96212713
Fri, Aug 11, 2006, 09:32
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Spoiler alert...Stay away from media outlets this morning because we have a new WSOP champion.
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| | | 192 | Farn
Sustainer
ID: 451044109
Fri, Aug 11, 2006, 09:47
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thank you TRS. Smooch Smooch.
Now I just have to survive until November when it airs. :)
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| | | 193 | Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Fri, Aug 11, 2006, 14:09
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lol - I just emailed Farn to warn him too. Should've checked here first.
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| | | 194 | R9
ID: 36251821
Fri, Aug 11, 2006, 22:16
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#Game No : 11643745
***** Pacific Hand History for Game 11643745 *****
$1/$2 Blinds No Limit Hold'em - *** 08 11 21:45:22 2006
Table Perdomo Reserve Maduro (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: CapeRide ( $288.15 )
Seat 2: jmony76 ( $222.15 )
Seat 3: ltzero ( $403.05 )
Seat 4: 6509 ( $156.5 )
Seat 5: Gamble91 ( $192.8 )
Seat 6: Zwag ( $226.8 )
Seat 7: gazza325 ( $263.65 )
Seat 8: TonyG99 ( $200 )
Seat 9: RNiner ( $200.75 )
CapeRide posts small blind [$1].
jmony76 posts big blind [$2].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RNiner [ Ad Ah ]
ltzero folds.
6509 folds.
Gamble91 folds.
Zwag folds.
gazza325 folds.
TonyG99 raises [$5].
RNiner raises [$10].
CapeRide folds.
jmony76 folds.
TonyG99 calls [$5].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Qs, 10c, Ac ]
TonyG99 bets [$20].
RNiner raises [$40].
TonyG99 raises [$170].
RNiner calls [$150].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 8d ]
** Dealing River ** [ 9c ]
** Summary **
TonyG99 shows [ Kc Jc ].
RNiner shows [ Ad Ah ].
RNiner shows [ Ad Ah ].
TonyG99 shows [ Kc Jc ].
TonyG99 collected [$399].
Sheesh. I'm partially upset that my last set of aces may have blinded me here, but I don't see me folding this under normal circumstances either...
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| | | 195 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 4270911
Sat, Aug 12, 2006, 00:59
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I had nearly the same hand last night...but w/set Qs...I paid it off too...
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| | | 196 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 15372923
Sat, Aug 12, 2006, 11:00
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Here is a hand I felt like I played well (helps when you are playing a donkey)...I had probably played 20 hands at this table and had identified one real loose type that was really pushing around the other players. I sat down and started playing loose...a bluff or two but also made some hands...came over the top of the villian and pushed him off some hands. I knew his type would not appreciate this and was ripe for a big trap.
Begin Hand Number 893438632
table Work To Do
Table Type: Normal (Non-Tournament)
Game Name: Texas Hold'em
Stakes: $2.50/$5.00
Active Players: 6
Total Pot: $1,094.80
Rake: $3.00
Net Pot: $1,091.80
FUNFAB has the dealer button
UCanSMD posts small blind ($2.00)
vedat posts big blind ($4.00)
kangster calls for $4.00
MactanTRS raises for $24.00 (QhQc)
MiddleAgeMan folds
FUNFAB calls for $24.00
UCanSMD folds
vedat folds
kangster folds
Dealing Flop (3h 5s 2d)
MactanTRS bets $48.00
FUNFAB calls for $48.00
Dealing Turn (6d)
MactanTRS bets $124.00
FUNFAB calls for $124.00
Dealing River (5c)
MactanTRS checks (I feel this check will get him to bluff off his stack)
FUNFAB went all-in for $466.42
MactanTRS went all-in for $346.40
FUNFAB receives returned betting money ($120.02)
MactanTRS shows cards
FUNFAB mucks cards (9c 7h...nothing)
MactanTRS shows Two Pair, winning $1,091.80
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| | | 197 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 15372923
Sat, Aug 12, 2006, 11:07
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The out of position check can be a nice play against the right type player. I also like to use it against a smaller stack that I think is on a missed draw...where I know I am going to call any bet on the end and I think the only way to get the other players money is to give him a chance to bluff at it.
This hand I was not as sure I was ahead but I knew I had to call the river with the player having very little left and a lot of money in the pot. Thought about folding on the turn...
table Work To Do
Table Type: Normal (Non-Tournament)
Game Name: Texas Hold'em
Stakes: $2.00/$4.00
Active Players: 6
Total Pot: $664.80
Rake: $3.00
Net Pot: $661.80
vedat has the dealer button
kangster posts small blind ($2.00)
MactanTRS posts big blind ($4.00)
MiddleAgeMan folds
NemoX folds
UCanSMD raises for $12.00
vedat folds
kangster calls for $10.00
MactanTRS raises for $28.00 (Jc Ah)
UCanSMD calls for $20.00
kangster calls for $20.00
Dealing Flop (8h Jc 6s)
kangster checks
MactanTRS bets $80.00
UCanSMD calls for $80.00
kangster folds
Dealing Turn (Kh) don't like this card...
MactanTRS checks
UCanSMD bets $120.00
MactanTRS calls for $120.00
Dealing River (2h)
MactanTRS checks
UCanSMD went all-in for $84.40
MactanTRS calls for $84.40
UCanSMD shows cards (7d 8s)
MactanTRS shows cards
MactanTRS shows One Pair, winning $661.80
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| | | 198 | DWetzel from work
ID: 3316412
Sun, Aug 13, 2006, 12:45
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Question for the day: if he had pushed all in on the turn what would you have done? It seems like a silly play to toss in $120 and leave only $84 behind... maybe I'm not thinking right though. I guess he was that sure his pair of 8s was good and wanted to get all the money in in two stages?
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| | | 199 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 4270911
Sun, Aug 13, 2006, 17:45
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If he pushed all-in on the turn...I call. I remember thinking when the K came on the turn that I could be beat and almost folded to the 120 bet but felt I was still good against this player. Basically when I decided to call the 120 I was committing to the show down and expected to call an all-in on the river.
This play was probably a little looser than I generally play but I was running over this table pretty well and was up at the time ~4x the buyin. I had the table playing very loose and I had showed down some winning weak hands and had caught a draw or two. I think most of the table was tilting.
The split bet is an ok choice...just gives him another round to fire on the river to push me off of a hand...
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| | | 200 | DWetzel
ID: 563201922
Sun, Aug 13, 2006, 20:23
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Pfui... yeah, I know I shouldn't have played it. Trust me, being in a lot of pots preflop was very +EV against this crowd. I wouldn't have been surprised to see a pair of aces played this way.
PokerStars Game #5907137591: Omaha Hi/Lo Limit ($2/$4) - 2006/08/13 - 19:57:56 (ET)
Table 'Amelia' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: rgpars ($123 in chips)
Seat 2: diamondmine ($108 in chips)
Seat 3: DWetzel ($122 in chips)
Seat 4: Pale Rider ($57.50 in chips)
Seat 5: Mr.Jac ($82 in chips)
Seat 6: lntimidator3 ($56.50 in chips)
lntimidator3: posts small blind $1
rgpars: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DWetzel [2s Kd Kc 6c]
diamondmine: calls $2
DWetzel: calls $2
Pale Rider: folds
Mr.Jac: raises $2 to $4
lntimidator3: calls $3
rgpars: calls $2
diamondmine: calls $2
DWetzel: calls $2
*** FLOP *** [Ks Jh Jd]
lntimidator3: checks
rgpars: checks
diamondmine: bets $2
DWetzel: calls $2
Mr.Jac: folds
lntimidator3: folds
rgpars: calls $2
*** TURN *** [Ks Jh Jd] [8s]
rgpars: checks
diamondmine: bets $4
DWetzel: calls $4
rgpars: raises $4 to $8
diamondmine: folds
DWetzel: raises $4 to $12
rgpars: raises $4 to $16
Betting is capped
DWetzel: calls $4
*** RIVER *** [Ks Jh Jd 8s] [4h]
rgpars: bets $4
DWetzel: raises $4 to $8
rgpars: raises $4 to $12
DWetzel: raises $4 to $16
Betting is capped
rgpars: calls $4
*** SHOW DOWN ***
DWetzel: shows [2s Kd Kc 6c] (HI: a full house, Kings full of Jacks)
rgpars: shows [Jc Js Qd 8d] (HI: four of a kind, Jacks)
rgpars collected $91 from pot
No low hand qualified
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $94 | Rake $3
Board [Ks Jh Jd 8s 4h]
Seat 1: rgpars (big blind) showed [Jc Js Qd 8d] and won ($91) with HI: four of a kind, Jacks
Seat 2: diamondmine folded on the Turn
Seat 3: DWetzel showed [2s Kd Kc 6c] and lost with HI: a full house, Kings full of Jacks
Seat 4: Pale Rider folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Mr.Jac (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 6: lntimidator3 (small blind) folded on the Flop
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| | | 201 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 15372923
Sun, Aug 13, 2006, 21:36
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I wouldn't have been able to get my money in fast enough when I flopped that full house...nothing you can do there...you flopped 2nd nuts.
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| | | 202 | Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Tue, Aug 15, 2006, 13:13
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Getting ready for my now-annual birthday poker trip to Vegas in 2 weeks. Staying two nights at the Tropicana dirt cheap ($45/night). Chose it because it's across the street from the MGM where I plan on doing most of my playing. Thanks again to TRS for posting allvegaspoker.com which has all of the tourneys in Vegas.
MGM has added twice daily tourneys (11am and 6pm IIRC) and with their room and relatively loose games it's perfect. I'd imagine I will squeeze in something like 35 hours of poker in the 52 hours or so I'm in Vegas! :)
I changed my live play to another card room in town that's really a bar with 7 tables in the back. Lots of loose drunks on Fri/Sat night so the 4/8 game is fairly loose.
Viva Las Vegas!
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| | | 203 | beastiemiked
ID: 36428317
Tue, Aug 15, 2006, 14:42
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The Wynn Tuesday and Thursday $330 tourney at noon has a good structure(3k starting chips blind increases every 45 minutes). Plenty of dead money(ex: saw an all in with pocket 5's the first hand, another guy calling off all his chips with a naked flush draw on level 1) the two times I played it. Plus, the Wynn is badarse. Actually, had to do a double take when I saw Lebron James walking around.
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| | | 204 | ChicagoTRS
Leader
ID: 566152116
Tue, Aug 15, 2006, 15:53
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I will be in Vegas in November...thanks for the advice on the Wynn tournament...cept I will be there thurs through sunday...anyone else have any advice on tourneys...I don't mind paying ~500 buyin or right around there. I figure for cash games low limit NL tables will be available pretty much everywhere.
Likely staying at the Venetian...can get rooms there through priceline for ~135 a night...not bad for a 400 a night hotel...
Been rolling so good lately...have had only one losing session since July 4th...
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| | | 205 | beastiemiked
ID: 36428317
Tue, Aug 15, 2006, 17:00
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I don't mind paying ~500 buyin or right around there.
Pretty sure the Wynn has a very similar tourney on Friday for $530. Also, from what I've heard Caeser's 7 PM is really weak and has a decent structure(1500 starting chips for $130 1 rebuy for $100 for 3000 chips, 40 minute levels).
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| | | 206 | DMAN
ID: 92582611
Tue, Aug 15, 2006, 23:01
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re:192 - Espn will begin airing the main event next Tuesday, with the final table being aired on Sept 26.
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| | | 207 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 15372923
Wed, Aug 16, 2006, 00:33
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Are they airing the main event first? and then some of the early bracelet events?
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| | | 208 | DMAN
ID: 92582611
Wed, Aug 16, 2006, 00:42
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Yes. I'll post a link to the schedule in the spoilers thread since states who won the main event.
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| | | 209 | wolfer
ID: 23732187
Wed, Aug 23, 2006, 23:12
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I have to add this:
PokerStars Game #6029276276: Tournament #30542558, 300+20 HORSE (7 Card Stud Hi/Lo Limit) - Level V (80/160) - 2006/08/23 - 22:57:20 (ET)
Table '30542558 1' 8-max
Seat 2: rickypit (3546 in chips)
Seat 3: dinoian (1543 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 5: wolfer001 (3266 in chips)
Seat 6: haledahl (2466 in chips)
Seat 7: shaules (1179 in chips) is sitting out
wolfer001: posts the ante 16
haledahl: posts the ante 16
shaules: posts the ante 16
rickypit: posts the ante 16
dinoian: posts the ante 16
*** 3rd STREET ***
Dealt to rickypit [Kc]
Dealt to dinoian [Qd]
Dealt to wolfer001 [Kh 8h 2s]
Dealt to haledahl [Ah]
Dealt to shaules [Qh]
rickypit said, "nh"
wolfer001: brings-in low 24
haledahl: calls 24
shaules: folds
rickypit: calls 24
dinoian: folds
*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to rickypit [Kc] [6c]
Dealt to wolfer001 [Kh 8h 2s] [2c]
Dealt to haledahl [Ah] [8d]
wolfer001 said, "u2"
wolfer001: checks
haledahl: checks
rickypit: checks
*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to rickypit [Kc 6c] [Th]
Dealt to wolfer001 [Kh 8h 2s 2c] [2d]
Dealt to haledahl [Ah 8d] [8c]
wolfer001: bets 160
haledahl: calls 160
rickypit: folds
*** 6th STREET ***
Dealt to wolfer001 [Kh 8h 2s 2c 2d] [2h]
Dealt to haledahl [Ah 8d 8c] [3d]
wolfer001: bets 160
rickypit said, "lol"
haledahl: folds
rickypit said, "yw"
wolfer001 collected 472 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 472 | Rake 0
Seat 2: rickypit folded on the 5th Street
Seat 3: dinoian folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 5: wolfer001 collected (472)
Seat 6: haledahl folded on the 6th Street
Seat 7: shaules folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
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| | | 210 | Sludge
ID: 45541422
Thu, Aug 24, 2006, 08:34
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What? No check after that fourth deuce got peeled off for you?
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| | | 211 | Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Thu, Aug 24, 2006, 11:16
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Watched the first two main event episodes. For all of the crap Hellmuth earns for his antics, you have to give the dude crazy props as he has the cajones to lay down big hands. Could you believe some of the stuff he came up against almost literally right after sitting down?!?!?
I am far from a pro, perhaps only a slightly above average player, but OMFG were some of those clowns BAD!
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| | | 212 | swami
ID: 7659420
Thu, Aug 24, 2006, 22:53
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I never saw this coming...
PokerStars Game #6040804982: Hold'em No Limit ($0.02/$0.05) - 2006/08/24 - 22:50:20 (ET)
Table 'Etamin II' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: SWB7576 ($2.81 in chips)
Seat 3: DaSwam ($7.46 in chips)
Seat 4: PokerLungs ($10.99 in chips)
Seat 6: HAL9006 ($5.59 in chips)
Seat 7: thescuderia ($12.12 in chips)
Seat 8: ChaosMaster2 ($13.73 in chips)
Seat 9: styleNG ($9.63 in chips)
SWB7576: posts small blind $0.02
DaSwam: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DaSwam [Js Jc]
PokerLungs: folds
HAL9006: calls $0.05
thescuderia: folds
ChaosMaster2: raises $0.20 to $0.25
styleNG: folds
SWB7576: folds
DaSwam: calls $0.20
HAL9006: calls $0.20
*** FLOP *** [9h 4h 9d]
DaSwam: bets $0.50
HAL9006: folds
ChaosMaster2: calls $0.50
*** TURN *** [9h 4h 9d] [Jd]
shortissim83 joins the table at seat #2
DaSwam: checks
ChaosMaster2: bets $0.05
DaSwam: calls $0.05
*** RIVER *** [9h 4h 9d Jd] [Th]
jedimasters has returned
DaSwam: checks
ChaosMaster2: bets $1.99
DaSwam: raises $4.67 to $6.66 and is all-in
ChaosMaster2: calls $4.67
*** SHOW DOWN ***
DaSwam: shows [Js Jc] (a full house, Jacks full of Nines)
ChaosMaster2: shows [9c 9s] (four of a kind, Nines)
ChaosMaster2 collected $14.44 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $15.19 | Rake $0.75
Board [9h 4h 9d Jd Th]
Seat 3: DaSwam (big blind) showed [Js Jc] and lost with a full house, Jacks full of Nines
Seat 8: ChaosMaster2 showed [9c 9s] and won ($14.44) with four of a kind, Nines
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| | | 213 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 15372923
Fri, Aug 25, 2006, 01:19
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not too much you can do there...sitting with 2nd nuts/top fullhouse you have to go broke vs quads.
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| | | 214 | rockafellerskank
ID: 49136120
Fri, Aug 25, 2006, 10:08
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I have a favor to ask of anyone that does NOT have a current Party Poker account. This means you have NEVER opened one.
Rabeback.com has a huge $50,000 free roll for NEW player sign ups and according to their e-mail (see below) there are very few players signed up ---- making for a huge overlay.
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You have to sign up a new account through rakeback.com to be eligible, and I already have a PP account so I can't do it.
Here's my proposal for anyone willing to do me a favor:
1. Contact me
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3. I'll send your $125 via NetTeller or Firepay and you fudn the PP account with $100; leaving you $25 for your trouble.
4. Once the account is created, send me the user name and password-- remember you have nothing to lose as it will be MY money that has funded the account.
5. I'll play the tourney and ater the tourney, transfer any winnings (player transfer) to my regular PP account.
6. I'll also leave any bonus money PP gives for you if you want to keep the account and play at PP.
I know this is kind of a pain in the butt, but I'm hoping someone will lend a skank a hand?
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| | | 215 | Aman
ID: 427312414
Fri, Aug 25, 2006, 12:20
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Skank:
I may be interested. I stress "may", however. I'll send you an email later tonight. When's the tourney?
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| | | 216 | holt
ID: 22726517
Sun, Aug 27, 2006, 04:50
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multi-table tourney:
KJ spades
flop is A-10-2 all spades
4 of us go all-in and I prepare to do the victory dance. 10 comes down on the river. some dude hits the FH with 10-2.
argh.
there is definitely an element of skill in the game (especially in a live game, as compared to on-line), but sometimes you are just destined to lose and no amount of skill will stop it.
I've won 2 of these tournaments before (not bragging - I've played my fair share of em). both times I was extremely lucky, many times over. it wasn't really my skill that won them. there are plenty of decent players in any tourney who are good enough that they could win. it's like trying to walk through a mine-field. the only way you get through the mine-field is a little persistence and a LOT of luck.
I suppose that's why hold 'em is so popular. the level of luck is high enough that a lot of people are willing to take their chances with it. you don't see a lot of high-stakes chess rooms around. if someone challenges you to a $50 game of hold-em, what the hell, go for it. if someone challenges you to a $50 game of chess, run.
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| | | 217 | R9
Leader
ID: 02624472
Sun, Aug 27, 2006, 05:29
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In multi-table tournies you need to get lucky to win it all. However, I've always felt (and read) that skill will get people to the point where luck can take over. If you've lost an all-in with J10os to an AJos on a J-high flop 10 hands into the tourney, your lack of skill never allowed you to stick around long enough for luck to give you a boost.
I happen to feel that being bubbled because of bad luck 3 hours in is far worse then busting 10 minutes in because of a weak kicker. At least you get 2 hours and 50 min to do something else with! ;)
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| | | 218 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 15372923
Mon, Aug 28, 2006, 00:46
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short term poker is 90% luck...long term it is 90% skill (or really probably 100% skill)...
any one tournament you are likely going to have to get lucky (or not unlucky) but if you are playing many tournaments and you are skilled you will find your way to the final table more often than average...
Definitely a skill game in the longrun...but not like chess where skill is the primary factor short or long term.
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| | | 219 | rockafellerskank
ID: 49136120
Mon, Aug 28, 2006, 16:38
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Re: 215/214:
Thanks Aman for the e-mail. Actually, I am looking for a more familiar long-time Gurupie to work with since money will change hands -- trust factor.
On a side note, I'm spending some of my WSOP seat cash on
WPT bootcamp - Caribbean stay and WPT Season Pass tourney. Signed up today. Sounds like a cool way to spend this year's vacation to me. I just hope Phil Laak doesn't mind when Jen Tilly falls for me!
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| | | 220 | swami
ID: 7659420
Mon, Aug 28, 2006, 16:58
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You sure you want sloppy 162nds on her?
Check your e-mail skank.
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| | | 221 | wolfer
ID: 23732187
Mon, Aug 28, 2006, 22:36
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rfs,
Did you get any takers yet? If not, I will let you know by Friday.
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| | | 222 | rockafellerskank
ID: 49136120
Tue, Aug 29, 2006, 00:03
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wolfer, thanks for the offer, but swami hooked me up! Thanks DaSwam and good luck on the tables.
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| | | 223 | Sludge
ID: 45541422
Wed, Aug 30, 2006, 21:14
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Phew!
Finally got a top 50 in one of those Moneymaker Millions freerolls that PS has been holding. Was about my 5th one entered. 5165 entrants.
At one point, I was down to about 2.5k with the blinds 300/600 after two beats. First one he's chasing inside straight draw against my two pair and hits on the turn. I got out cheaper than I might have when he decided to slow play it. Second one, I had AJ on the button to his J4 in the BB with a board of XXJ (rainbow, no real scare cards). I bet about 3/4 the pot, and he calls. A 4 comes on the turn, and he slow plays again and I check. River misses me, and I pay off his 1/2 pot-sized bet. Cold cards and blinds get me down to 2.5k. Triple and quadruple up (mostly through the same guy that crippled me... that was nice) a couple of times and get back to an average chip stack in a matter of about 4-5 hands.
Had KK four times, and could never get anybody to play. Towards the end, I doubled up with QQ vs. the table bully's AT (phew!) putting me at about 90k. I stole a couple of blinds with quality hands, but mostly sat on my stack from about 70 players on. Got a couple of timely walks.
Of course I got lucky my fair share of times, but the odd thing is that only one time the entire tournament did I have anything better than two pair. I caught a flush from the BB on the turn with J7h, and couldn't get any callers.
Any idea what the round 2 tickets are worth? Can they be transfered? Probably not worth much, but I am curious to know.
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| | | 224 | R9
Leader
ID: 02624472
Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 03:47
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My father is in the round 3 this weekend, took him 7 tries at round 1 to advance, and placed in the round 2 on his 1st try. The round 2 isn't very difficult, there were 1300 people in his with top 240 advancing, so he just played tight/solid and 'made the money' easily. I'd play the round 2 in your boots Sludge, not too difficult and the round 3 prizes are kickin'. :)
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| | | 225 | Sludge
ID: 11042612
Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 12:07
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Ask your dad how the early play during the Round 2 was, if you don't mind R9. Was it typical of the low buy-in tournies at PS? I played pretty tight most of the Round 1. Very tight at the beginning. When we got to about 80-90 left, I loosened up just a bit while everyone was ratcheting down to steal a few blinds and get my stack to where I could sit on it until the end. I wasn't anywhere near the stack size where I could pressure the short stacks, but I wasn't in much danger of being short stacked myself, being in the top 30 the whole time.
Two things I saw that amazed me, though:
One guy had about 180k with about 60 left. Easily enough to sit on and make the top 50. He tangled with another big stack chasing a flush, and pissed all but 6k of it away with the blinds at 3/6k. (Amazingly, he survived, and finished at about 2k in his stack.)
I can understand the folks who play slow when it's not hand-for-hand play. They get to see fewer hands and pay less blinds and antes. Once you get to hand-for-hand, however, that strategy goes out the window, and is, in fact, worse for you because you see fewer hands per level of blinds/antes. Yet every table had 2-4 people doing it once we got to hand-for-hand play, and it wasn't the big stacks doing it! Simply astounding.
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| | | 226 | R9
Leader
ID: 02624472
Thu, Aug 31, 2006, 13:21
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He played tight the whole way in the round 2, and said the early play was real solid. Not too many people taking chances, and lots of bullying for blinds even at those low limits. I'd expect nothing less from an overall group who had to make top 50 in the round 1's though.
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| | | 227 | Sludge
ID: 45541422
Sat, Sep 02, 2006, 15:47
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Oh well. Went out about 380th. Hard to play tight when you aren't getting any cards or hitting any hands. Yet again, the entire tournament, I got nothing higher than a pair. Decided to make my stand with Kh9h in early position hoping folks would respect the raise and if they didn't, maybe I could get 2-3 callers and get really lucky. Other short stack went all-in on me with KQo, dominating me.
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| | | 228 | swami
ID: 397233121
Sun, Sep 10, 2006, 19:02
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Isn't it nice when a loose image earns you a payday on the river!!
PokerStars Game #6241077918: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2006/09/10 - 18:54:29 (ET)
Table 'Dido III' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: verraffer ($4.70 in chips)
Seat 2: InvestorsGuy ($58.75 in chips)
Seat 3: Marshall28 ($42.40 in chips)
Seat 4: needaflop ($24 in chips)
Seat 5: DaSwam ($49.65 in chips)
Seat 6: Emmapeel9 ($21.55 in chips)
Seat 7: phatgrrl ($10.50 in chips)
Seat 8: WinPokerWin ($18.15 in chips)
Seat 9: abneysworld ($5.15 in chips)
verraffer: posts small blind $0.10
InvestorsGuy: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DaSwam [4h 4s]
Marshall28: folds
needaflop: folds
DaSwam: calls $0.25
Emmapeel9: folds
phatgrrl: calls $0.25
WinPokerWin: folds
abneysworld: calls $0.25
verraffer: folds
InvestorsGuy: raises $0.50 to $0.75
DaSwam: calls $0.50
phatgrrl: folds
abneysworld: calls $0.50
*** FLOP *** [4d 3d Qd]
InvestorsGuy: bets $1.25
DaSwam: raises $3 to $4.25
abneysworld: folds
InvestorsGuy: calls $3
*** TURN *** [4d 3d Qd] [4c]
InvestorsGuy: checks
DaSwam: checks
*** RIVER *** [4d 3d Qd 4c] [7h]
InvestorsGuy: bets $5
DaSwam: raises $39.65 to $44.65 and is all-in
InvestorsGuy: calls $39.65
*** SHOW DOWN ***
DaSwam: shows [4h 4s] (four of a kind, Fours)
InvestorsGuy: mucks hand
DaSwam collected $97.40 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $100.40 | Rake $3
Board [4d 3d Qd 4c 7h]
Seat 2: InvestorsGuy (big blind) mucked [Ac Ad]
Seat 5: DaSwam showed [4h 4s] and won ($97.40) with four of a kind, Fours
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| | | 229 | Aman
ID: 427312414
Tue, Sep 12, 2006, 08:59
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Nicely played. Your all-in raise should have raised a red flag but it would have been hard to put you on pocket 4's.
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| | | 230 | Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Tue, Sep 12, 2006, 11:22
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I assume a few people are keeping up with ESPN's coverage of the Main Event. Nobles had such a huge stack, but almost reckless play caused him to nearly pi$$ it all away. Aggression is great and obviously he bullied his way to that stack, but is it me or does the dude need to realize the importance of changing gears once in a while?
He got sooooooooo lucky against the German dude when he had A-8 vs. KK and top pair on the flop was an 8. When someone check-raises you for all of their chips, do you seriously think that TPTK is good?!?!? WTF?
Seeing how Hachem got busted was brutal. Looking forward to see what kind of poker Cunningham plays.
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| | | 231 | swami
ID: 75542011
Tue, Sep 12, 2006, 13:45
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I agree. He got very lucky a number of times. He called off most of his stack with TP earlier on when a Q hit the river and he help QT vs AQ. The best part was that had was immediately after he got off his cell phone and said his next hand would be A's or K's. Oops.
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| | | 232 | weykool
ID: 41750315
Tue, Sep 12, 2006, 15:09
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One of the players I am keeping my eye on is Eric Molina.
They showed his father Roy on the cell phone keeping family members informed.
When my son was in little league Roy Molina was coaching Eric while I was coaching my son.
Very competitive.
During the last hour shown on ESPN last week Eric was #2 in chip count with about 600K+.
He just turned 21 so it is quite an accomplishment to get this far at such a tender age.
Still have not looked at any spoilers or even seen any kind of headline as to any winners.
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| | | 233 | Donkey Hunter
Sustainer
ID: 916288962
Tue, Sep 12, 2006, 20:47
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Uhm about your boy Eric...i guess it could be said he is not getting a good edit. thats the nicest thing i can say
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| | | 234 | beastiemiked
ID: 36428317
Wed, Sep 13, 2006, 00:11
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I love how Hachem was saying "One time" or "Story of my Life". I just wanted to hit him and say remember last year mate.
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| | | 235 | weykool
ID: 41750315
Wed, Sep 13, 2006, 01:24
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I agree Eric came off as a real jerk.
Its a shame the young players in the game today dont see the value in letting their poker game do the talking for them.
It was classic internet player to berate someone for calling 100K with A-10s when they were the moron who made the 100K bet with Q-Js in the first place.
I will say the second hour depicted him much more like the 12 year old kid I rememeber.... very quiet and respectful.
Demeanor aside, you have to give the kid props for winning 327K and doing as well as he did.
Maybe when he sees how he came accross on TV he will realise the errors of his ways and change his attitude to match his game.
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| | | 236 | Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Wed, Sep 13, 2006, 11:39
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weykool - well, the guy is just 21 so I think anybody watching has to at least consider that. Plus, the brashness/bravado was also a very big part of his game - likely inducing calls when he wanted calls and folds when he wanted folds. But there comes a point where you have to have respect for your opponents and the game, and perhaps he'll learn that.
While perhaps it is more common on the internet for players to berate other players (obviously with the anonymity the net provides), it's quite common live too. I called a dealer at my local card club down with 44 with all overs on the board and won when he had nothing.
"Why would you call that down with a pair of fours?!?" he asked.
"Because I didn't think you had made a hand. If my read was wrong then I paid for the information, plain and simple."
I love how the caller is always the idiot compared to the bluffer. Can't they accept that they made a bad bluff? I guess that's just poker - you make a bluff and represent a hand. It shouldn't be the other player's fault if they sniff out the rat.
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| | | 237 | swami
ID: 397233121
Mon, Sep 18, 2006, 19:00
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Here's how my luck has been lately....
PokerStars Game #6334342283: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2006/09/18 - 18:55:12 (ET)
Table 'Phoinix III' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: VICOMA1983 ($4.30 in chips)
Seat 2: Dan3903 ($29.30 in chips)
Seat 3: DHBLAIR ($22.70 in chips)
Seat 4: RavenKnot ($24.65 in chips)
Seat 5: fritzhans ($7.60 in chips)
Seat 6: Zaniite24 ($10.90 in chips)
Seat 7: bobaloo ($12.60 in chips)
Seat 8: bosgoedtt ($39.60 in chips)
Seat 9: DaSwam ($25.40 in chips)
bosgoedtt: posts small blind $0.10
DaSwam: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DaSwam [Kd Kh]
VICOMA1983: folds
Dan3903: folds
DHBLAIR: folds
RavenKnot: folds
fritzhans: folds
Zaniite24: folds
bobaloo: folds
bosgoedtt: folds
DaSwam said, "nice laydowns"
DaSwam collected $0.20 from pot
DaSwam: shows [Kd Kh] (a pair of Kings)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $0.20 | Rake $0
Seat 1: VICOMA1983 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Dan3903 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: DHBLAIR folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: RavenKnot folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: fritzhans folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Zaniite24 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: bobaloo (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: bosgoedtt (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: DaSwam (big blind) collected ($0.20)
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| | | 238 | ChicagoTRS
Leader
ID: 566152116
Tue, Sep 19, 2006, 17:43
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Funny last night I was playing 3 tables and got dealt KK on all three at the same time...big =)
I think I took all three pots...one nice pot...
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| | | 239 | Micheal
ID: 05152823
Fri, Sep 22, 2006, 02:58
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Would you make this call?
PokerStars Game #6372783152: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2006/09/21 - 22:51:41 (ET)
Table 'Carme' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: jensmvp ($83.95 in chips)
Seat 2: kima ($96.45 in chips)
Seat 3: BobbyTheO ($95.50 in chips)
Seat 4: smerkone ($149.35 in chips)
Seat 5: Steve McNair ($108.55 in chips)
Seat 6: mattieballer ($31.60 in chips)
Seat 7: TDJ00093 ($50.20 in chips)
Seat 8: nutscobra ($17 in chips)
Seat 9: coach99 ($140.90 in chips)
nutscobra: posts small blind $0.50
coach99: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to jensmvp [Ks Kh]
jensmvp: calls $1
kima: calls $1
BobbyTheO: calls $1
smerkone: calls $1
Steve McNair: folds
mattieballer: folds
TDJ00093: folds
nutscobra: calls $0.50
coach99: checks
*** FLOP *** [3s Jc Td]
nutscobra: checks
coach99: checks
jensmvp: bets $7
kima: folds
BobbyTheO: calls $7
smerkone: folds
nutscobra: calls $7
coach99: calls $7
*** TURN *** [3s Jc Td] [Kd]
nutscobra: checks
coach99: checks
jensmvp: bets $20
BobbyTheO: calls $20
nutscobra: calls $9 and is all-in
coach99: folds
*** RIVER *** [3s Jc Td Kd] [5s]
jensmvp: checks
BobbyTheO: bets $67.50 and is all-in
jensmvp: calls $55.95 and is all-in
*** SHOW DOWN ***
BobbyTheO:
jensmvp: shows [Ks Kh] (three of a kind, Kings)
nutscobra:
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $194.90 Main pot $58.05. Side pot $133.85. | Rake $3
Board [3s Jc Td Kd 5s]
Seat 1: jensmvp showed [Ks Kh]
Seat 2: kima folded on the Flop
Seat 3: BobbyTheO showed
Seat 4: smerkone folded on the Flop
Seat 5: Steve McNair folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: mattieballer folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: TDJ00093 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: nutscobra
Seat 9: coach99 (big blind) folded on the Turn
I have never limped with KK UTG and didn't feel to confident going against 5 other hands. Wasn't really worried about AQ but Q9 scared the crap out of me...
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| | | 240 | rockafellerskank
ID: 180352016
Fri, Sep 22, 2006, 11:58
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Absent any information you haven't posted. If I have KK, I go broke or double up there. I can't belive Q9 is a threat with a 7 call and a 20 bet before his hand would be made. My guess is he has a smaller set (JJ maybe).
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| | | 241 | swami
ID: 75542011
Fri, Sep 22, 2006, 17:37
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Busted diamond draw maybe w/AdJd?
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| | | 242 | R9
Leader
ID: 02624472
Fri, Sep 22, 2006, 19:30
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Definitely would be worried about Q9, since he saw the flop cheap and just called on the flop. (7$ for an open-ended straight draw isn't a bad call at all.)
On the other hand, more info is needed. What is your image like? If you play tight/agressive and regularly raise your big hands (and he's good enough to know this) he probably doesn't put you on KK, JJ or 1010, and may believe his two pair KJ is good.
Aside from a huge read that would leave me in serious doubt (I.E. He's a rock that never bluffs, or only moves all-in with a huge hand) I go broke or double up here. You have top set with no flush possibilities and only two possible straights. The biggest straight, AQ, would have to call a gutshot on the flop, and this guy was the 1st caller. (Not like the 3 other callers gave him odds or something, he didn't know they were in yet.) The Q9 straight isn't a hand alot of people play, so if he's reasonably tight then the odds of that go down significantly. He also would probably be afraid that the river could ruin his hand, so if I had Q9 on this board on the turn, I probably raise you right there. His call is pretty telling, and unless you know him to be a monster trapper, you have to reduce his likelyhood of Q9 even more.
Your check on the river showed alot of weakness too, thus he may have felt like he could steal it with a big bet. So, you just can't throw away top set everytime a better hand possibly hits the board. There are too many other hands he could play this way, given your limp preflop; he could have a lower set or a high two pair, or top pair/busted flush draw, etc.
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ID: 05152823
Fri, Sep 22, 2006, 23:02
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I thought that also, that if he had Q9 he would go all in on the turn instead of the river. The guy hadn't been there that long and didn't have to show many hands so I just had to go by the situation, the betting and having the 3rd best hand. Top pair and missed straight...
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $194.90 Main pot $58.05. Side pot $133.85. | Rake $3
Board [3s Jc Td Kd 5s]
Seat 1: jensmvp showed [Ks Kh] and won ($191.90) with three of a kind, Kings
Seat 2: kima folded on the Flop
Seat 3: BobbyTheO showed [Jh Qs] and lost with a pair of Jacks
Seat 4: smerkone folded on the Flop
Seat 5: Steve McNair folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: mattieballer folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: TDJ00093 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: nutscobra (small blind) mucked [Qd Kc]
Seat 9: coach99 (big blind) folded on the Turn
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| | | 244 | beastiemiked
ID: 36428317
Sat, Sep 23, 2006, 01:02
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Everyone pray that Frist doesn't get his way and attach a provision to the Defense bill that will essentially make sites like Neteller illegal.
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