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Subject: New TV shows

Posted by: blue hen - Leader [710321114] Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 13:13

There are a lot of TV shows around there. Thanks to TiVo, I spend time watch these instead of Aqua Teen Hunger Force or replays of WNBA basketball. My rotation includes:

Monday: How I Met Your Mother, The Class, Studio 60
Tuesday: Friday Night Lights
Wednesday: 30 Rock
Thursday: The Office, Til Death, Six Degrees
Friday: Psych

I also gave The Nine a shot but wasn't moved. The two best are clearly Six Degrees and How I Met Your Mother.

What shows are you guys watching?

Tree
ID: 1411442914
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 13:17

Lost is still spectacular, as is Prison Break.

Heroes has been really fun to watch, and i'm enjoying the heck out of Jericho.

i've also give The Nine a shot, and it's interesting, but it really better do something to grab me in the next few episodes.

tommyd
ID: 2832309
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 13:21

Lost,Prison Break, High Stakes Poker I've watched a couple of eps of 6 degrees.

blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 13:59

Jericho also had an interesting premise. Is it any good?

The best thing about Six Degrees is the interplay of characters who don't know each other. Like Carlos and Caseman yelling at each other in the bar. If anything, this show could use a little more complexity - take some of these random characters and have them walk by each other on the street. That would help along the idea of these people being total strangers.

I watched Singles last night. Steve Dunn (in Singles) is the same actor who plays Steven Caseman (in Six Degrees). Interestingly enough, Caseman is a role that Dunn could reasonable be expected to have 20 years later. If only he could get a visit from Bailey the Maitre'd.

J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 14:06

My Name Is Earl didnt make the list?

Last night I added How I met your mother to my tivo list.

Studio 60 is pretty good!

And of course, new season of south park started 2 weeks ago.

And some personal addictions - Deal or No Deal, Survivor, Mythbusters.

Tree
ID: 1411442914
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 14:06

Jericho also had an interesting premise. Is it any good?

i've enjoyed Jericho. at times, it's a bit cliche, but i like the backdrop of small town politics and "everybody knows everybody else" sort of stuff going on.

R9
Leader
ID: 02624472
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 14:08

The Office is hilarious. I love to see comedies that don't have a laughtrack, and this one is great.

High Stakes Poker and the LA Poker Scene are pretty much the only other two shows I watch. I should probably re-think my cable TV package...

philflyboy
ID: 520591215
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 14:10

I have enjoyed Heroes on Monday nights and Psyche on Fridays. Still also like Survivor!!

J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 14:13

There was some special on Comedy Central last night (re-airs Tuesday night I think) and it had the guy from the British Office on doing stand up. At the end he said thanks and that Steve Carrell would be out next, repeating his standup word for word. It was funny.

Texas Flood
ID: 8762917
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 17:32

My favorte show is "24", in fact I think its the best show i've ever been on TV. Its cast, production quality, content, special effects and sound track are more "Movie Like" than any network show ever.

I also enjoy, Lost, Prison Break, The CSI and Law and Order series, and I love "My Name is Earl". It has a "Northern Exporsure" quality about it.

I also spend a lot of time on The History Channel, Discovery, Comedy Central, A & E and of course Fox Sports Detroit. I love the Best Damn Sports Show Period, now that Tom Arnold is gone!

katietx
ID: 357543117
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 19:09

Lost, Prison Break, Heroes, CSI & Jericho.

Survivor is just ok-having a hard time getting into the players.

Law & Order still rocks, as does ER.

I TIVO Shark & Nip Tuck.

tommyd7878
ID: 16728922
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 22:29

I've actually watched the first three episodes of Justice too and like although not sure if it can run long term as I was starting to get bored seeing the same stuff over already. I've also watched the new show with Ray Liota and it was pretty good.

C1-NRB
ID: 5131158
Wed, Oct 18, 2006, 13:28

The standard rotation now includes the following:
Heroes
Lost
Mythbusters
Numb3rs
Survivor
CSI:

Mixed in on occasion-
The Office (both versions)
My Name is Earl
Studio 60
Survivorman (I think there was only one season of this. It ran on Discovery Times as an hour long show and Discovery as a condensed 30 minute show)
Masterminds (CourtTV)
Dirty Jobs
Monk

The wife watches Project Runway. It ends tonight and I'll throw Top Chef into it's slot.

Skidazl
Leader
ID: 379312323
Wed, Oct 18, 2006, 13:37

I also just added How I met Your Mother to my TIVO list, I've always loved Alyson Hannigan since Buffy and especially American Pie...

I also love CSI: Vegas, 24 and Prison Break...

I saw the last episode of last season's Entourage and it looked like it could be pretty good...

Katie, I agree about this season's Survivor, have seen anybody that I really hate or like yet. And I hate the whole Exile Island/hidden Idol twist...

BUT, my favorite new show has to be Dexter on SHO, very entertaining in a sick kind of way...

katietx
ID: 357543117
Wed, Oct 18, 2006, 18:52

Project Runway - how could I forget that!!!!

I'm hoping Jeffrey is out. :-P

Forgot about Numb3rs - love it.

C1-NRB
ID: 5131158
Thu, Oct 19, 2006, 10:31

OK... maybe I sometimes watch Project Runway just a little.
I picked Jeffery to win a long time ago. He was this season's Santino (who should've won last season).

katietx
ID: 357543117
Thu, Oct 19, 2006, 11:53

Uli should have won, but then I'm not 20 and want to dress like a freak show. ;-)

TB
ID: 448553012
Fri, Oct 20, 2006, 00:08

Based on this thread I recorded a two shows and watched them tonight. The Office is great. I am still laughing.
"What is (don't remember name)'s biggest fear?
"Umm, loneliness...or women."
"Wrong. The answer is nothing. He isn't afraid of anything. I would have also accepted snakes."

Someone is going to have to catch me up on Six Degrees. I watched tonight's show and enjoyed it, but it would be nice to get caught up a bit. How long has the show been on?

I searched for Til Death and couldn't find it. My Tivo also couldn't find Psych for tomorrow either.

Other shows I've recently started watching:
Heroes - I am liking this show more and more.
Jericho - Been okay so far.
Smith
Justice
Bones
Criminal Minds

And a couple shows I got hooked on last season:
Supernatural
The Unit
NCIS

I was into CSI (Vegas and NY, never cared for Miami) for a while, but I almost never have time to watch everything I record and end up deleting most of them. I've added Numb3rs to my record list and will check out some of the others as well. What night does The Nine come on? Same with My Name Is Earl?

deraynman
ID: 37811021
Fri, Oct 20, 2006, 01:12

The Nine comes on after Lost on Wednesdays.

Although it isn't a new show, anyone looking for a great show to watch, catch "The Wire" on HBO. It is not one of those shows you can catch one episode of though, you might want to start at the beginning. I read reviews giving it the highest score on TV and calling it the best show on TV. I gave it a shot and started at the first season and find the storytelling and acting to be among (if not) the best on television.

aChair
ID: 459171622
Fri, Oct 20, 2006, 08:54

I finally gota chance to watch Friday Night Lights (only caught the
last 1/2 hour) and I must say I was impressed.

Though, not new, I like Cold Case on Sundays and Lost on
Wednesdays.

Punk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Fri, Oct 20, 2006, 17:14

TB...
Psych is on TNT and Till Death is on Fox.

blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Fri, Oct 20, 2006, 18:24

Actually, Psych is on USA.

And did anyone notice the Pearl Jam song in the middle of Friday Night Lights on Tuesday?

blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Fri, Oct 20, 2006, 18:26

Oh, and Til Death is on hiatus due to the World Series.

Punk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Fri, Oct 20, 2006, 19:07

Yes USA, with Monk, knew I would get that one screwed up.

TB
ID: 448553012
Tue, Oct 24, 2006, 22:24

Watched the Monday night line-up; How I Met Your Mother, The Class, and Studio 60. All were pretty good. How I Met Your Mother was hilarious. The cougar stuff killed me.

"C-"

"What are you talking about, I pulled an all-nighter."

"You didn't budget your time well, you glossed over some of the most important points, and your oral presentation was sloppy and inconclusive."

blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Fri, Oct 27, 2006, 16:46

Ah, we had to know Doogie Howser was set to become the next Quagmire...

louky
ID: 1326296
Fri, Oct 27, 2006, 16:55

Skidazl... Hooked on Dexter also. Hall, I think thats his name is the king of 1 hour premium cable shows centering on death.

Skidazl
ID: 189142212
Sat, Oct 28, 2006, 21:02

Yeah, not sure what it is that draws me in, but I've made it #2 on my TIVO priority list(CSI: LV is #1). Had to bump the wife's Desparate HW from that spot....

Boxman
ID: 559352918
Mon, Oct 30, 2006, 06:19

What shows are you guys watching?

Here's my weekly schedule:

Monday - Prison Break, 2-1/2 Men
Tuesday - O'Reilly Factor, Miami Ink (TiVo)
Wednesday - Jericho, Lost
Thursday - Survivor, CSI (Record Supernatural on the other TiVo)
Friday - Watch Supernatural and Miami Ink

This isn't a "new" show, but I've been watching 2-1/2 Men lately and that is a laugh riot.

Tree
ID: 3940305
Mon, Oct 30, 2006, 06:40

i haven't enjoyed a comedy in awhile, although that one with Neil Patrick Harris is pretty funny, not that i can remember the name of it.

but hey, at least you got TWO comedies on your schedule, one on monday and one on tuesday.

Rendle
ID: 9826411
Mon, Oct 30, 2006, 11:45

I've noticed that HBO has the best originally programming. I'm way behind so I've been watching the Sopranos, Six Feet Under, Curb Your Enthusiasm, Entourage, and Mr. Show on DVD. The Sopranos is the best television show IMHO. Every episode is a quality 60 minute movie.

The only 2 shows I watch when they air are Lost and 24.

Boxman
ID: 47922511
Mon, Oct 30, 2006, 12:13

Tree: but hey, at least you got TWO comedies on your schedule, one on monday and one on tuesday.

What that at me? Surely you wouldn't suggest that O'Reilly is a comedy? :)

I've been meaning to try the new Neil Patrick Harris show, but I can't give up my Prison Break. I'll have to set the TiVo in my back bedroom to tape it there instead. It does look pretty good.

Once 24 comes back, then I'll be in a blissful state again with TV.

blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Tue, Nov 14, 2006, 17:44

Add Heroes to the graveyard. I gave it up two weeks ago. And Six Degrees has been pushed back to January. I really hope they don't slot it at the same time as 24. And Studio 60 was actually really good last night (Nevada Day, Part II). Doesn't appear that it's going to get nixed too soon.

Schedule:
Mon: How I Met, The Class, Studio 60, (MNF)
Tue: Friday Night Lights
Wed: Jericho
Thu: The Office, Til Death, (Coll FB)
Sun: Simpsons, (get distracted during American Dad), Family Guy, War At Home

On Hold:
Six Degrees, 24, According To Jim, Entourage

Graveyard:
The Nine, 30 Rock, Heroes

Does anyone know what happened to Knights of Prosperity? The Mick Jagger one. Can't seem to find it...

Tree
ID: 1810451418
Tue, Nov 14, 2006, 19:49

Add Heroes to the graveyard. I gave it up two weeks ago.

damn. you gave up to soon. last night was the best episode yet.

as for KoP, they're saying now it's going to debut in january.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Nov 15, 2006, 12:58

The best piece of equipment ever as far as TV goes is the Dual DVR that Dish Network offers. With that I can record two shows at the same time. That allows a whole new opportunity when it comes to seeing competing shows that I want to see. Best of all it doesn't cost anymore than one DVR and you can watch different shows on different TVs with just one piece of equipment. There are two remotes you can use in other parts of the house that use radio frequencies so you don't have to be right in front of it to use. With the commercial skip capabilities, I generally don't watch a lot of things live as I can watch an hour show in about 40 mins or so. Or can start watching it late and catch up with live tv.

So here is what I have on my DVR
MON
8:00 both Prison Break and How I met your mother
8:30 The Class
9:00 two and a half men
9:30 old christine
10:00 stuido 60 and csi miami
TUES
ncis and house
WED
bones criminal minds csi ny
THURS
ugly betty 'till death 30 rock csi shark
FRI
vanised, close to home, las vegas, numbers, monk (psyched)
SAT
SNL
SUN
Amazing Race, cold case, w/o a trace

I'm in this Club Dish stuff and occassionally they send me gift cards to give to my friends to sign up for Dish Network. I have a couple of them if anyone is considering signing up for Dish Network that can save you $200 ($50 Activation waived, $50 credit on first bill, $100 off programming) and get free premimum movies for first 3 months, free DVR upgrade like what I have and other stuff. Email me for the gift card codes and info. I think it's only good for like 3-5 people and expires 1/31/07.

blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Mon, Nov 20, 2006, 12:57

Jericho.

... is really getting good. Last week's episode was quite good. Might be giving Your Mother a run for top show this season.

Tree
ID: 1411442914
Mon, Nov 20, 2006, 13:11

ditto on that. took a few weeks to hit its stride, but now that it has, Jericho is solid.

but i hate how we only have 2 episodes left until the "spring season"...

J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Mon, Nov 20, 2006, 14:37

I can't wait til I don't have to hear about saving anymore cheerleaders after tonight!!!!

Skidazl
ID: 189142212
Mon, Nov 20, 2006, 17:58

ref, I had Dish and the dual DVR was nice but also a pain in the ass....

Mainly, because if the DVR goes out, which mine did frequently, BOTH TVs are done, pretty much sucks when one of them is your main TV, and with the poor service Dish provides. We had to wait for a week twice for them to ship out the new DVR.

The ONLY thing I liked about Dish's dual DVR thing is that you can start a show on one TV and finish it on the other without recording the show on both DVRs like with DirecTV...

Punk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Mon, Nov 20, 2006, 20:29

I have a big urge to goto the Mall.

J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Mon, Nov 20, 2006, 20:35

today?

skinneej
Leader
ID: 040625911
Mon, Nov 20, 2006, 22:14

You sure it wasn't really porn...wait for it...wait for it...ogrophy! ;) After the office and family guy, I think HIMYM is the funniest on TV.

BTW, speaking of satellite DVRs, I have had DirectTV DVRs for close to 4 years now. I now have three boxes, two standard def "Tivo" boxes and one of their new Hi-Def units. Having the dual tuner features has been by far the biggest advantage. I realized last night that I had 5 items taping throughout the house at the same time. My wife had Housewives and some LMT movie going in the BR, I had the whole Sunday night Fox lineup taping in my office, and the Bulls-Lakers and SD-Den recording on the HD box. Wow! I normally would watch some of those games live, but since I was gone most of the afternoon, I was catching up on the three HD NFL games that had taped earlier in the day. Talk about time-shifting!

The new HD box has had some glitches here and there, but the recent software download has helped so far. It still is not as user friendly as their Tivo boxes IMO, but since DirecTV decided to sell new DVRs that they developed, you don't have any choice if you sign up now. Over the 4 years, I only had trouble with the original 35 hour unit after about a year when it started freezing. DTV replaced it an no cost and it has worked now for the last 3 years. I have had no trouble at all with the 70 hr unit, which I have had for 2.5 years.

blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Tue, Nov 21, 2006, 10:49

That was a great episode of How I Met Your Mother. And how many of you went to myspace to see the entire video?

It was really telling to watch The Class followed by Studio 60 last night. Both shows have a lot of characters to follow. But I find that while I sympathize with almost all of the characters in The Class (except Richie, interestingly), I sympathize with almost none of the characters on Studio 60. The show is funny and mildly interesting, but I don't feel any connection to anyone except Matt (Matthew Perry) and perhaps Jordan (Amanda Peet - might just be because she's hot). The Nevada episode really illuminated this: I couldn't relate to the TV network exec who is forced to do a job that is beneath him. I mean, what is new and different about that - we all do it sometimes. The good guys aren't likeable enough and the bad guys aren't dislikeable enough. Last night was a good episode, but this show is not going to make it...

The Class, on the other hand, really gets a lot out of the characters. Sure, they have a serious sub-plot in what is supposed to be a funny show, but I really feel like each character is interesting and I want to see what they do next. Except Richie and Lina, perhaps.

Punk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Tue, Nov 21, 2006, 18:03

Any times that "Perry" is on the screen it cracks me up. They are able to really do gay jokes in a good way, unlike how Will and Grace did it, at least in my POV.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Nov 21, 2006, 23:07

Re: 38

Haven't had the first problem with the dual DVR. I love how I have one box and it controls the whole house (have three TVs mirrored on one) and can watch any show that is recorded from any TV at any time.

Speaking of "How I met.." that show is getting better and better, but having Neil Patrick Harris publicly come out of the closet lately does take a little away from his character, IMM. Then again, the guys on Will and Grace weren't gay IRL so it shouldn't matter. I just keep thinking...Doogie! Not that there's anything wrong with that! ;)

I really like the Class and even New Adventures of Old Christine. I record them all and then watch one while another one is recording. Can watch all the shows I want on Mon night on every channel and bed done right at about the time they are over irl. Two and a half men is hilarious as well. Never really got to see that much because always had something I liked better on another channel.

At least someone from the Seinfeld show is having some modicum of success. Not even going into "Kramer's" woes.

Studio 60 just isn't getting it done for me--yet amazingly I'm still watching it. I heard on the radio that it is on the axe list, but survived...barely. I like 30 Rock a lot better. Maybe I just like teh comedies a lot better than the dramas.

Toral
ID: 52621719
Wed, Nov 22, 2006, 22:53

Show Me the Money is trying to be the sleaziest game show of all time (easily beating out Greed), with its "12 beautiful dancers". Past game shows would reveal a prize amount sort of mechanically. On the prize amount is unscrolled by one of 12 hot women who mostly stand around for the whole show, dancing at the beginning, for commercial breaks, and when someone wins. The basic premise is good -- few contestants will be able to run 6 right answers without hitting the "Killer" Card. I think the problem is Shatner as host. I know he's become popular with Boston Legal but really, he seems fat and punchdrunk, a beat behind all the time. The questions are mostly geared to contemporary pop culture.

After Show I hung around for Day Break and was hooked. It's Groundhog Day with lots of murder and side stories. I recommend it and believe you can get up to date by watching previous episodes on abc.com.
It's not too late to start watching but every week you haven't watched reduces the enjoyment of every future episode.

I just think it's a show with an expiry date on it -- you couldn't keep this level of intensity up for more than one year.

Toral

Toral
ID: 52621719
Thu, Nov 23, 2006, 20:16

OK, Ugly Betty I just don't get. Probably I'm 70 years too old or something, but I don't think I got dumb that fast.
Sign me up for the episode where Betty blows the rest of the cast away with an Uzi and is designated to run the whole company.
Until then: Pass.

Toral

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Nov 24, 2006, 16:46

LOL Toral I'm with you. My wife loves it though. Go figure.

blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Tue, Nov 28, 2006, 11:34

Toral - you're 70 years too old for just about anything.

I watched about 3 minutes of Ugly Betty the other night, and gave up.

I set Daybreak up for a season pass. I'm a little late to the party.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Nov 28, 2006, 14:50

Class and 2 1/2 men were the hilarious again this week. After watching prison break and then these two shows, I have to say that Monday has cemented itself as my favorite TV night. Too bad Prison Break is taking a hiatus for a little while--though it's ending was so good.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Nov 28, 2006, 14:51

Can't wait until The Closer comes on again. Love that show. Of course Monk is one of my favorites.

blue hen
ID: 2510161320
Thu, Nov 30, 2006, 00:12

That was a pretty nice night of TV...

Day Break - My first episode. As noted, it's pretty good. Taye Diggs is quite good, so far. Interesting momentary flashbacks to things we've seen (a la Psych). I am eagerly awaiting next week.

The Class - This episode brought back most of the class for the first time since episode 1. It was quite funny, but I can see how an outsider would be lost if this was their first episode. Duncan is my favorite character.

Jericho (fall finale) - A great episode, and clearly a bunch of cliffhanging. They claim they're going to update the story online during the offseason. That should be fun. I want to know where Jonah went - he's got a better chance living on death row than outside of Jericho. Remember Rogue River?

Still have yesterday's Friday Night Lights to watch. Might have to wait till tomorrow.

Bond, James Bond
ID: 221012290
Thu, Nov 30, 2006, 00:30

Ref...Don't forget that The Closer has a special 2-hour show this Monday night. Ought to be good!

And yes, Monk rocks!

blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Thu, Nov 30, 2006, 10:22

Friday Night Lights - the last few episodes have gone downhill, fast. The coach, who is the best actor, gets featured less and less. Smash (the steroid-using RB) and Matt (the new QB) are pretty terrible and this week they had a bunch of scenes together. Ugh. And the wheelchair football game was pretty bad as well.

Studio 60 - still pretty bearable. Matthew Perry carries this show. But there are far too many characters with similar roles (and similar looks) to make this a hit. But it's watchable, for now. Nice way to create conflict this week (I won't spoil it).

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Nov 30, 2006, 13:34

RE: 52. need to set that up on my DVR. Might have conflicts though. Wait. Prison Break is off now so there is one hour (assuming it starts at 8 EST).

I haven't seen Vanished in awhile. Better check my recorded shows. I got hooked on that, but since the baseball ASG moved it from Mon folling Prison Break to Fridays, I've only seen it once or twice because it hasn't been on (or at least recorded). Weird.

There are a lot of shows I haven't seen the past 2-3 weeks because of time issues. Need to get caught up. Glad the DVR holds 100 hrs.!!!

RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Thu, Nov 30, 2006, 15:54

Update about Smith

The three epis that aired and the four that didn't are available on InnerTube: http://www.cbs.com/primetime/smith/

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Dec 01, 2006, 16:45

RSf, you rock! I liked this show.

blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Fri, Dec 01, 2006, 17:08

Wow... my two guilty pleasures have converged.

If you like How I Met Your Mother and Les Miserables, you will want to watch this clip immediately.

TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Fri, Dec 01, 2006, 21:32

Great clip. What's even cooler is that I folowed the links from it and have been catching up on some missed episodes.

blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Wed, Dec 06, 2006, 16:04

Watched Friday Night Lights and Studio 60 last night. These two shows are definitely switching places fast.

I have lost all my sense of connection with just about every character on FNL:
- Coach used to be the new guy, and you wondered how he would fit in. Well, he won the big game and seems to fit in fine. He's irrelevant now.
- Matt (QB) used to be the underdog. But he won some games as well. And he got the girl. He's not charismatic enough when he's not the underdog, and now he's no longer the underdog.
- Jason (injured QB) used to be injured and you felt sorry for him. But now he's healthy enough to play wheelchair hoops, to take down Lyla's pictures, and to punch out Tim Riggins. Now he's just a guy, who isn't terribly interesting.
- Tim Riggins is the bad guy, who never wants to do anything except drink and cause trouble. That's his character now. Why should I care?
- Smash is using steroids because he's the underdog, but he has already had his big game, and isn't that interesting anyway.

Is there anyone else I should care about?

tommyd7878
ID: 16728922
Wed, Dec 06, 2006, 20:17

I liked SMITH too.

JeffG
ID: 146591911
Thu, Dec 07, 2006, 11:14

I had not watched Heroes all season because I am out on Mondays watching Monday Night Football with my buddies. But from my old "Buffy" circle and others I have been hearing a good buzz on this from almost everyone (that is, except blue hen above) so I stared catching up by watching the episodes online on the NBC.com website. Saw the first two last night and will probably watch all 11 over the next few weeks if it keeps up.

I assume it is going head-to-head with 24 come January, but the web rebroadcasts and a DVR, network time slot is less of an issue.

blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Thu, Dec 07, 2006, 11:23

Let me get this straight...

You watch football with your buddies.

You have a Buffy circle.

Interesting.

JeffG
ID: 146591911
Thu, Dec 07, 2006, 11:45

True blue hen, and they are different groups of people too.

What is interesting, is these sets of people offer the same bewilderment towards me about belonging to and interacting with a crowd of internet based fantasy sports fans.

Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Thu, Dec 07, 2006, 14:12

Great comeback about 'interacting with a crowd of internet based fantasy sports fans', JeffG! My wife rolls her eyes every time I mention "one of my sports buddies and I......"

I too have ended up into "Heroes". The first one I saw was Episode 10, entitled "Six Months Ago", which goes back to the origins of the main villian and how the Heroes' destinies all start to come together. Then SciFi had a marathon so I had the first 6 on DVR, and last night I filled in the blanks, including the somewhat climactic "Homecoming" episode (#9) on NBC.com.

Anyway, it's of course a bit of an X-men ripoff, but the idea of it being genetic evolution vs. a "mutant gene" has my interest piqued. Plus Hiro is just one of the coolest characters on TV.

JeffG
ID: 146591911
Fri, Dec 08, 2006, 11:18

Species. My wife gets it, but I get a similar reaction from my friends regarding my internet interactions and fantasy football. I keep telling them, especially the ones who are really into sports, to check it out and they may get hooked, but the saying about old dogs and new tricks applies. In my office, all of my fantasy baseball and football league-mates are at least 10 years or more younger than me.

Back on topic...I am loving that the networks are giving viewers another chance to catch their offerings online. Some of the series that are hits today, are not necessarily ones you can pick up mid-season if you do not watch from the start (like Heroes or 24), or tough to even to join the bandwagon if you did not watch from the beginning (like Lost).

I first heard a real buzz about Lost about 6 episodes into it's first season, but had no way of catching up, so I never caught the craze. With Heroes, I can catch up via the web 11 episodes in (My wife just did the same with "Ugly Betty", which she watches not via network tv, but exclusively on ABC's website since Survivor is up against it, and I usually am taping Earl/Office on the DVR).

J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Fri, Dec 08, 2006, 12:16

Both of my DVR's didn't record Earl last night!!!! I have comcrapst and it seems like they changed the format, not sure if that has anything to do with it, but I'm pissed.

At least I can watch it online, never done it before though

Boxman
ID: 211139621
Fri, Dec 08, 2006, 17:28

Show Me The Money is allright. The contestant on the other night was a real testicle, but Shatner is a laugh riot especially when he's within 100 yards of a woman.

I first heard a real buzz about Lost about 6 episodes into it's first season, but had no way of catching up, so I never caught the craze.

We have a seperate LOST thread so if you get into it when it returns in February I'm sure a bunch of us would be happy to catch you up to speed. It's a great show and my personal favorite with 24 a VERY close second.

blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Fri, Dec 08, 2006, 17:34

They HAVE to offer it up online, or else we'll TiVo it, bitTorrent it, etc and not look at their commercials. Interestingly, the NBC and CBS ones don't work for me at work (although, of course, the ABC one does) and the CBS one, which appears to have interesting extra content as well, doesn't work at home either. I haven't been able to watch any of the extra Jericho content or the How I Met behind the scenes.

Boxman
ID: 47922511
Tue, Dec 26, 2006, 15:33

I caught the three episdoes of How I Met Your Mother that CBS ran last night. That show is a riot.

blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Tue, Dec 26, 2006, 15:48

Welcome to the club. Those weren't even the best episodes.

In other news, Day Break got the axe. Lame.

Great One
Sustainer
ID: 053272014
Tue, Dec 26, 2006, 15:55

Show Me the Money cancelled too... so there ya go!!

blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Thu, Dec 28, 2006, 17:51

Got some comeback dates, courtesy of TV.com:

Monday Shows
1/15 24 (preview 1/14)
1/22 Studio 60

Wednesday Shows
1/3 According To Jim
1/3 Knights of Prosperity
1/10 Friday Night Lights
2/14 Jericho

Friday Show
1/19 Psych

I think the others are still at the usual time: How I Met Your Mother, The Class, The Office. Also, no ETA on Six Degrees.

In addition to Knights of Prosperity, I am going to give Dirt a shot, with Courtney Cox on Tuesdays. It looks like I might have to upgrade my TiVo in time for Valentines Day.

katietx
ID: 3810431417
Fri, Dec 29, 2006, 15:00

You forgot:

1/4 - ER
1/9 - House
1/22 - Heroes
1/29 - Prison Break

2/7 - Lost

Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Fri, Dec 29, 2006, 15:54

Don't miss an episode of Prison Break. It actually returns on Jan 22.
http://www.fox.com/prisonbreak/

katietx
ID: 3810431417
Fri, Dec 29, 2006, 19:53

Oops-you're right Tosh, sorry about the typo.

KnicksFan
Sustainer
ID: 030815418
Wed, Jan 03, 2007, 10:19

Dexter on Showtime is really good. First season just ended a couple weeks ago but all the episodes are available On Demand (if you get that).

Skidazl
ID: 189142212
Thu, Jan 04, 2007, 00:36

Agreed, I really like Dexter, looking forward to next season. I find his sister a bit annoying though...

Got Knights of Prosperity and In Case of Emergency TIVO'd for tonight. Both seem to have some good potential...

blue hen
ID: 2510161320
Thu, Jan 04, 2007, 00:40

Knights of Prosperity was AWESOME. Definitely looking forward to this show. But I've been a fan of Donal since Tao of Steve.

I didn't manage to get In Case of Emergency, so let me know if I need to go to abc.com and get it.

TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Thu, Jan 04, 2007, 01:38

I like Dexter, but every woman on that show is annoying. His sister is extra annoying. My son kept telling me to be quiet when I was rooting for the dude to slice her throat.

Skidazl
ID: 189142212
Thu, Jan 04, 2007, 11:02

TB, agreed about the women on the show, just his sister is the #1 offender. Every time she says F--- it almost sounds forced...

BH, I thought In Case of Emergency was over the top a bit, but watching Kelly Hu is going to make me give it one more shot...

For some reason, Knights didn't record so since it got at least one good review, I will go check it out on ABC.com...

Also, Entourage Season 1 is finally being rebroadcast so I am going to check out the other episodes...

tommyd
ID: 2832309
Thu, Jan 04, 2007, 11:19

High Stakes Poker Season 3 starts on January 15. Has anyone watched Poker After Dark.

Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Thu, Jan 04, 2007, 11:26

tommyd - what channel is that on?

TB
ID: 72253110
Thu, Jan 04, 2007, 12:35

I agree Skidazl. I hate looking at her and hate hearing her even more. It's one thing for a woman to toss out an occasional f-bomb, but it's quite another when she is constantly vulgar and tries to act like a tough dude. It would have been much nicer if she ended up as frozen chunks of beef.

Skidazl
ID: 189142212
Thu, Jan 04, 2007, 13:53

just finished the 5 episodes of Entourage, love it...

Only thing is Kevin Dillon's character, Drama, is as annoying as Dexter's sister...

Rendle
Donor
ID: 014815714
Thu, Jan 04, 2007, 20:32

I just started watching the first season of The Wire on DVD. HBO shows are the best - Six Feet Under, Sopranos, Entourage, Curb Your Enthusiasm, and Mr. Show are some of my favorites.

beastiemiked
ID: 3101646
Thu, Jan 04, 2007, 21:31

Drama and Ari make the show. Without either one the show wouldn't be that great.

blue hen
ID: 2510161320
Thu, Jan 04, 2007, 22:27

Johnny Drama gets better after the first season. It's still all about Ari, of course.

tommyd
ID: 2832309
Fri, Jan 05, 2007, 12:57

Species I live in Canada and use Bell ExpressVu so high stakes poker comes on the Gameshow Network for me on Monday nights at 10:30. Poker After Dark supposedly comes on 6 nights a week on NBC but I'm not sure of the time. Johnny Drama is a great character but I agree with Dexter's sister I was hoping she would get sliced and diced.

Boxman
ID: 47922511
Fri, Jan 05, 2007, 13:09

How I Met Your Mother officially has me hooked. I watched the episode where Barney gets a date for that one guy and he tells him that she's a prostitute. In fact, she's a paralegal. Doogie Hauser is one funny guy.

Skidazl
ID: 189142212
Fri, Jan 05, 2007, 20:34

how many seasons has Entourage been around? i thought this was the first, or at least what I saw was the first....

I only saw the five episodes that HBO aired on News Years Day...

blue hen
ID: 2510161320
Fri, Jan 05, 2007, 20:37

Entourage is supposedly on hiatus in the middle of the third season. The first season ends with the filming of Queens Blvd, and anything during Aquaman is season 2.

Skidazl
ID: 189142212
Fri, Jan 05, 2007, 20:37

Sheesh, I just went to HBO's website and I haven't seen squat yet. I'll have to see if Netflix has the DVDs of the first 2 seasons...

blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Mon, Jan 22, 2007, 14:32

Looks like Til Death is moving to Wednesdays. Ugh.

rockafellerskank
ID: 49136120
Sun, Feb 04, 2007, 13:30

Anyone hear whether or not "The Shield" is coming back for another season?

katietx
ID: 3810431417
Sun, Feb 04, 2007, 20:37

Yes....saw a commercial and I think it was March

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Feb 05, 2007, 00:24

Til Death is following Idol--weird how they would say that when they are on a different network!

Punk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Mon, Feb 05, 2007, 01:52

I had thought Til death and Idol were both on Fox?

blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Mon, Feb 05, 2007, 10:29

Studio 60 is being temporarily replaced by... an Andy Richter show. Remember Andy Richter Controls the Universe? It wasn't too bad. But this is bad news for Studio 60.

J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Mon, Feb 05, 2007, 10:44

I actually liked that Andy Richter show. 30 Rock is taking a hit too...(from tvguide.com)

NBC Subtracts 60 and 30 in March

A fresh release from NBC, cementing the plans to shelve Studio 60 as well as 30 Rock (!), to make room for two new series:

"NBC's new mid-season drama The Black Donnellys will premiere on Monday, March 5 (10-11 pm/ET) — following the hit drama Heroes — while the new comedy Andy Barker, P.I., starring Andy Richter, will debut on Thursday, March 15 (9:30-10 pm).

"Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip will return later this season on a date to be determined. 30 Rock will return... with original episodes on April 19, after Andy Barker completes its slate of episodes" and Alec Baldwin's SAG Award gathers a good inch of dust.

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Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Feb 05, 2007, 12:35

Rules of Engagement is starting tonight. I guess it's replacing New Adventures of Old Christine. Not sure if they are mvoing that or not, bt that show won an award so doubt they'd be cancelling that one.

Til Death is Fox. Makes sense. For some reason I was thinking it was CBS.

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Rendle
Donor
ID: 014815714
Mon, Feb 05, 2007, 13:16

The Black Donnellys definitely sounds like it could be pretty good. Paul Haggis created it - writer/director of Crash and writer of Million Dollar Baby. The only other new show I might check out is the Sarah Silverman one on Comedy Central.

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blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Mon, Feb 05, 2007, 13:53

Finally saw some promos for Jericho. I guess we're 16 days away from the Spring Premiere. I'm excited.

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J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Mon, Feb 05, 2007, 14:16

Rendle - I'm a huge Sarah Silverman fan...but be warned...it was pretty bad.

The funniest line was at the very beginning when it said, "warning, this episode of the Sarah Silverman Program contains full frontal...jewdity"

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skinneej
Leader
ID: 040625911
Mon, Feb 05, 2007, 15:02

I've queued up Rules and Sarah Silverman to add to my current slate. I agree the first Silverman show was not great, but it was pretty much what I expected. I will probably keep watching regardless since she is my fav female comic (actually there are only about 3 out there that I find funny). Any fans of hers will remember the Greg the Bunny show that had a short run a few years ago, but got little support and apparently was not a fav of critics. I have been enjoying it on HDNet and wish there were more episodes.

Anyone else watch the TBS series My Boys that premeired in the fall? I still have not gotten around to watching them all (it had a compressed 13 episode run) but I have them all TIVO'd when I get some time. I love Jim Gaffigan as a comic, but am still neutral on the show. He did a couple of the Sierra Mist commercials in the SB (think beard combover), but he is def better as a stand-up. Of course, there are the Conan "Pale Force" episodes, but most of you probably haven't seen those!

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J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Mon, Feb 05, 2007, 15:14

I tried My Boys. Got through 2 episodes and lost interest. i definitely like Gaffigan as a comic, he's got a pretty limited role in My Boys from what I could tell.

I've still got the Sarah Silverman Program set to tivo so I'm not giving up yet!

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TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Mon, Feb 05, 2007, 18:56

I watched the first Sarah Silverman Program and have the second one set to record. I like her, but if the 2nd one is as bad as the first one it will quickly be gone from my list.

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Tree
ID: 43133321
Mon, Feb 05, 2007, 22:22

i think i am the only person on earth who loved the insanity and absurdity that was the first Sarah Silverman show.

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J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Tue, Feb 06, 2007, 00:26

Anybody catch Rules of Engagement? I tivo'd it just out of curiousity and it was pretty funny!

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skinneej
Leader
ID: 040625911
Tue, Feb 06, 2007, 00:38

My thoughts on Rules:

Puddy is still funny, David Spade is really short, and the fiance chick is pretty hot.

It had its funny moments for sure, but I have to think I have seen this show format many times over. Let's see, two couples and a single "playa" type...that's already on at 8pm on the same network. I doubt Rules will come as close to How I Met... in the funny, but I hope it doesn't try to follow the same script. We'll know it is true if Spade "comes out" at any point during the season! ;)

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TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Tue, Feb 06, 2007, 01:33

I thought it was funny, but it is the pilot and supposed to be funny. I was thinking the same thing about the two couples and single swinger dude. They just have to come up with their own funny stuff each week.

2 1/2 men was hilarious tonight. "We don't cross swords" and Heroes was pretty good too.

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Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Feb 06, 2007, 11:10

I thought Rules was funny and agree with TB that 2 1/2 men was the funniest ever.

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blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Tue, Feb 06, 2007, 11:37

How I Met Your Mother was spectacular last night, but I'd like to have seen an increased role for the all-time leading rusher.

Interesting that Jerry Rice was on The Class - a far superior cameo, in my opinion. What to Emmitt and Jerry have in common? Oh yeah, they were both on Dancing With The Stars.

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Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Tue, Feb 06, 2007, 12:01

Heroes was VERY good last night.....it's too bad if some here got disinterested because the way things continue to intertwine between the characters is very interesting.....and like "Lost" it's hard to go back once you've missed part of the season.

Then again, I watched 6 missed episodes on nbc.com and would encourage anybody to give it another try.

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katietx
ID: 3810431417
Tue, Feb 06, 2007, 16:05

I said pretty much the same thing after watching Heroes last night. Before the Christmas break I was close to giving it up...glad I didn't.

I just knew Nathan was....don't want to give it away to anyone who hasn't seen this episode.

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TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Fri, Feb 09, 2007, 02:02

The second version of the Sarah Silverman Program had a few laughs and wasn't horrible, but I think I have to let this one go.

Anyone else think this episode of The Office was less funny and more astonishing. Michael's behavior at the wedding literally had me saying, "Oh my God" out loud. Yes, some laughs, but more shock.

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Tree
ID: 314395
Fri, Feb 09, 2007, 06:51

i missed Silverman's program this time, but every time i see her, i think how lucky Jimmy Kimmel is.

i thought the Office this week was hysterical.

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Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Feb 09, 2007, 08:49

What is Heroes all about? I've heard very little on it? If I started watching it now would I be lost? My guess would be yes.

I have so many shows I record as it is that I can't get to all of them. But with the dual DVR, I am able to usually fit in a couple extra shows in about the same time period if I watch it live. My thinking is that if the show is that good and is not on at a time when I'm already recording two shows then I can watch it whenever there are repeats or even this Spring after the main shows are done as I have 100 hours of recording time.

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Tree
ID: 29082512
Fri, Feb 09, 2007, 10:06

Ref - you could probably hop in right now, but might very well be lost.

however, i think if you go to the website, you can watch the past episodes online.

it's basically a stylized, comic-book oriented world where some people are beginning to discover they have "powers". some are becoming heroes, some are becoming villians.

all seem to be struggling with their new powers, which creates for some interesting stories and back stories.

the show also seems to have no problem killing off seemingly important major characters, as well as introducing new ones 7 or 10 or 12 episodes into the series.

one of the four dramas i don't miss, along with Lost, Jericho, and Prison Break.

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J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Fri, Feb 09, 2007, 10:07

The Sarah Silverman program comes on all the time it seems, actually:
Sat 3am
Mon 12:30am
Mon 3am

I have alot to catch up on from last night, haven't watched Earl, Office, Scrubs, Survivor, Sarah Silverman Program (although I did see her on Leno last night!)

I did however have to at least pay attention to The O.C. last night. One of my former roommates was in it as one of the pregnant girls (the brunette one) in a gym or something. Probably the first and last time I ever watch that show unless she's in it again.

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katietx
ID: 3810431417
Fri, Feb 09, 2007, 11:13

one of the four dramas i don't miss, along with Lost, Jericho, and Prison Break.

Tree is my evil twin! ;-)

I also don't miss CSI (the 1st one) and Survivor.

Is anyone watching Dirt? It is too weird for words.

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blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Fri, Feb 09, 2007, 11:55

I watch Dirt. I'm not sure why - I think it's mostly because I want to still be watching when Jennifer Aniston shows up in late March.

This week's episode was much more bearable than last week's head-in-a-jar. There are only two compelling characters for me - Holt and Lucy. Of course, now they're intertwined, but those are really the only two I have any interest in watching.

Somehow, Pee Wee Herman keeps finding his way onto Prime Time television. I have to say, he was much better on Dirt than he was on 30 Rock.

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leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Fri, Feb 09, 2007, 17:28

Anyone else think this episode of The Office was less funny and more astonishing.

Yes! There are always those 1-2 moments each episode where I squirm, but last night's was ridiculous. The wedding speech, the father upstaging him, blurting out "Let me be the first to announce" twice, and on and on. Still a good episode, though, the wedding crashers bit ("grizzly bears can attack at any time") and the Pavlov's dogs breathmint experiment were quality. Then again, anything with Jim and Dwight is comedic gold. Gold!

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blue hen
ID: 180152223
Mon, Feb 12, 2007, 21:37

Friday from 8:30-9:00...

NBC - Friday Night Lights
ABC - Knights of Prosperity
CBS - Jericho

What the hell do I watch???

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Tree
ID: 21171218
Mon, Feb 12, 2007, 22:07

Jericho is on Fridays now??

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J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Mon, Feb 12, 2007, 23:11

Dude, Knights of Prosperity was AWFUL. I think I watched 3 episodes and I couldn't delete it from my tivo fast enough. AWFUL!!!!

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TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Tue, Feb 13, 2007, 00:01

Legge, I am so glad you said this, "Yes! There are always those 1-2 moments each episode where I squirm" because I often wonder if I am the only person who becomes uncomfortable watching characters on a make-believe program. I know it's supposed to be outrageous and unbelieveable at times, and yes mostly funny, but The Office takes it up another notch now and then. It's still very high up on my Tivo list.

2 1/2 Men is my clear cut favorite comedy right now. Tonight was hilarious again. How I Met Your Mother is a close second. Rules of Engagement had a good second episode. Patrick Warburton is the funniest guy on the show.

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blue hen
ID: 180152223
Tue, Feb 13, 2007, 00:02

Heh, interestingly enough that should say Wednesday. The show is called "Friday" but it's actually on Wednesday. Nice.

Knights is great. Very funny and creative.

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Boxman
ID: 211139621
Tue, Feb 13, 2007, 06:21

2 1/2 Men is my clear cut favorite comedy right now. Tonight was hilarious again. How I Met Your Mother is a close second.

I would have to agree. Somehow they've got to do a crossover with Barney and Charlie or have Barney tolerate Allen for an episode. That would be sweet.

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Rendle
Donor
ID: 014815714
Tue, Feb 27, 2007, 11:05

Anyone catch The Black Donnellys? I thought it was really entertaining last night. If anyone missed it they're showing an encore this Thursday at 10. Might have to throw this one into the rotation right after 24 which has been in a little slump after that first 4 hours.

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C1-NRB
ID: 24954318
Tue, Feb 27, 2007, 11:05

Last night's Heroes was the most satisfying so far. I really fell like the show is coming together and has a "direction;" I didn't get that feeling with Lost until midway through season 2.

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Tree
ID: 29082512
Tue, Feb 27, 2007, 11:17

last night's Heroes was an astonishing hour of television. it was simply so well done, and totally full of what i refer to as "holy $hit!" moments.

Lost had a number of those during the first two seasons, and prison break has been much the same. along with Jericho, i feel like i'm watching four shows that constantly twist and turn and take me along a fantastic rollercoaster ride.

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J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Tue, Feb 27, 2007, 11:29

I really need to go back and watch the first few episodes of Heroes online. I'm definitely hooked.

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Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Tue, Feb 27, 2007, 11:55

It's too bad people jumped off of Heroes, it's definitely my favorite new show and in the top 3 overall. That image of Claire coming out of the house was nasty (although the one of her being autopsied was even nastier!)......but quite simply it is great storyline progression.

Obviously the great thing about Heroes is that the possibilities are nearly endless. New Heroes, new powers, people turning evil, government conspiracies, it can really go places....the writers/producers just need to keep the human element alive and not get so entirely wrapped up in the powers.

What has made this show so good so far has been the character development - they have made so many of these characters so likeable, sympathetic and vulnerable that you can't help but feel connected to them. Peter is especially captivating to me in that way....even Sprague as a fringe character engenders sympathy because he loved his wife so much.

The only "bummer" thing is that it's kind of an X-men takeoff....but if they keep the characters so sympathetic perhaps they'll carve their own place in the genre.

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Boxman
ID: 251142612
Tue, Feb 27, 2007, 13:04

How I Met Your Mother turned in another great episode. I think most of us can relate to having that first car or a car that goes to that many miles and the attachment you have with it. It's how I feel about my car now. My wife was making fun of me because I have Marshall's rule about no food or drink being allowed in my car.

Barney was excellent, as usual.

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TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Tue, Feb 27, 2007, 14:08

I agree with you guys about Heroes. The twists and turns have been brilliant. Hiro and Claire together on the rooftop as kids. Hiro's Dad being a bigwig in the whole "Let's kill special people secret organization." That scene where she came out of the house all radiated, face-melting, Skeletor-looking and then healed before our eyes. Whew. How about Claire's Dad, who I've wanted to punch in the face several episodes, turning out to be not quite what we expected? We didn't see Silar this week, but that plot twist is about as creepy as I've seen on a TV show. Did you see the preview for next week where Simone is alive and asks if he (Isaac) wants to shoot her again? Great show.

Monday night is my favorite night to Tivo:
Heroes, How I Met Your Mother, The Class, Two and a Half Men, and Rules of Engagement

Other than Heroes on NBC, CBS seems to have all my favorite shows. All four of the comedies above, plus NCIS and The Unit on Tuesday and then Jericho on Wednesday. I am a little burned out on the investigative shows right now, but I think CSI and Criminal minds are both CBS as well. I still Tivo Shark as well and think that is CBS.

I've never watched or gotten into Lost or Prison Break so am not sure what channel they come on. I did watch about 2 1/2 seasons of 24 and the first few episodes of this season before I gave up on it. It seems to get more and more rediculous as it goes on. All the characters make me mad, the time-lines are unbelievable, the constant back-stabbing is troubling not to mention the people who change allegiance which is immediately accepted, the John Wayne bravado gets tiring especially when it continues to create a bigger problem more often than not, and the 23 hours of bumbling while the "criminals" are always one step ahead of the "good guys" gets my blood up. Man, I can go on and on. Sutherland always panting in his whisper-speech, someone always getting kidnapped and forcing CTU (or a solo John Wayne at CTU) to give in to their demands, the President dealing directly with CTU on an hourly basis, Division always walking around CTU demanding updates and wanting to relieve people. My son refused to be in the same room with me while I watched it because I would vent at it. I quit watching so I wouldn't have a heart attack. Biting someone on the neck and killing them in the vampire death grip, being addicted to heroine and almost shooting up then 15 minutes later being in total control, shooting another agent in the head and giving his body over because it was a terrorist demand, man I just can't stop. I swear, if I had a mini-recorder with me during the show someone would try to have me committed if they heard my rantings.

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katietx
ID: 3810431417
Tue, Feb 27, 2007, 16:18

i feel like i'm watching four shows that constantly twist and turn and take me along a fantastic rollercoaster ride.

Ah ha! I finally figured it out. Tree, you and I were separated at birth and sent to separate families. *insert Twilight Zone music here* Maybe that's why we like so many of the same shows. Exept...well, I'm a "bit" older. ;-)

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Tree
ID: 29082512
Tue, Feb 27, 2007, 16:21

Exept...well, I'm a "bit" older. ;-)

and I, a bit wiser. ;o)

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blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Tue, Feb 27, 2007, 16:29

I still like 24. Sure, it's gotten hokey, but you can still follow it. You just have to accept some of the truths TB listed.

Friday Night Lights is easily my favorite right now. It's so simple, but it drags me in. And let's be honest: it's not about sports.

Psych is a clear second. I could watch this show every night.

Last week's Jericho has me excited for the new season. And I'm on board with the other CBS shows (the comedies, How I Met Your Mother and The Class).

Studio 60 was great, although I think it's about to get canned. Knights of Prosperity is holding my interest, for now. And Dirt has exactly 5 more episodes to draw me in or I'm gone.

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Punk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Fri, Mar 02, 2007, 03:51

Just watched the two new Eps of Jericho and still say it's going in an alright direction. It goes in and out of stuff that keeps me interested I guess now.

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J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Mon, Mar 05, 2007, 23:43

April 23 til the next Heroe's episode?!?!???

I can't remember a show keeping me on the edge like this in a while!

I'm gonna give The Black Donnelly's a shot. Watched last weeks episode online and tivo'd tonights.

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Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Mar 06, 2007, 11:53

I've watched every Studio 60 show and every time I get done watching it I am asking myself WHY?!?! Seems like it's dumber every week. Got hooked on the premiere and have been disappointed since.

Rules of Engagement is hilarious. Christine comes back Monday. The Class is very funny as well. Monday is by far the best night for TV IMM. CBS and Fox have it nailed. Fortunately I'm able to tape both networks at the same time or I'd miss all the CBS stuff except when Prison Break skips a week like next week.

Monk and Psyched rock! Monk won't return until the summer after the finale last week. Psyched has three more episodes before it's hiatus I guess. When does The Closer come back?

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Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Tue, Mar 06, 2007, 12:01

I'm pissed that Heroes is taking another break! Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

The Sylar vs. Peter faceoff was inevitable. Obviously Sylar will not be successful nor has he, you have to assume, killed Mohinder. Sylar's air of superiority is obviously going to hinder him in any "battle" vs. Peter as he won't really know what Peter can pull from his bag of tricks.

Adding Linderman to the whole "Company" conspiracy thing was obvious.....the fact that Mrs. Petrelli was connected and aware of Claire and stuff was not so obvious, although thinking back Nathan/Peter's Dad connected to Linderman means he could have been very connected to the "Company" as well.

Glad they got 'the bomb' back into the picture with Hiro/Ando's teleporting there.....the story had kind of swayed from that fairly defining moment for a while (although rightfully so).

It just sucks we have to wait 6-odd weeks! Booooooooo.

143

J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Tue, Mar 06, 2007, 14:05

I guess the only good thing about this break is that I can now go back and watch the first 6 or so episodes that I missed on NBC's website.

Still, April 23 is a long time!

Rules of Engagement is still funny, but how long can Puddy carry that show? I laugh just hearing his voice!

144

smallwhirled
ID: 14023168
Tue, Mar 06, 2007, 14:06

Puddy is freaking hilarious.

145

RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Mon, Mar 12, 2007, 11:26

Heroes spoof: Zeroes

146

blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Tue, Mar 27, 2007, 12:36

There's talk of canceling How I Met Your Mother. Obviously, that would be about the worst thing that could happen to prime time television right now. I mean, we need to meet their mother, right?

Also not renewed yet: Friday Night Lights, Jericho, and The Class. I think I've resigned myself to never seeing another episode of the class, but it would be pretty terrible to never see another Dillon Pather game or to watch a town struggle for electricity.

147

Boxman
ID: 251142612
Tue, Mar 27, 2007, 13:01

There's talk of canceling How I Met Your Mother.

ARRGGGHH!!! You can't be serious. That's one of the best comedies on TV right now. How can crap like The New Adventures of Old Christine survive and How I Met Your Mother gets axed?

We need to meet their mother and we need to know just exactly what it is that Barney does for a living.

How is that show not drop dead hilarious??

148

Rendle
ID: 31221520
Tue, Mar 27, 2007, 13:09

Arrested Development, Firefly, Family Guy, and Futurama have all been canceled (by Fox).

Who's excited for the final 9 episodes of the Sopranos in 12 days? I'm re-watching the old seasons now. Best show ever.

149

RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Tue, Mar 27, 2007, 13:12

Ahh...another Firefly fan...nice. Futurama...another classic, yet short lived.

150

Punk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Tue, Mar 27, 2007, 16:30

The good thing with Futurama is it's returning like Family Guy did.

151

J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Wed, Mar 28, 2007, 00:08

There is no way CBS could be dumb enough to cancel HIMYM!!!!

I've been trying to get into a couple of these other new shows:

Andi Barker, PI - Watched the first two episodes so far...I like Andy Richter, but this may be a little far fetched. I'll give it a few more chances

Raines - Just watched the first episode online, and tivo'd the second. I really like Jeff Goldblum, and I liked the first episode. So I'm gonna keep this one on my to be tivo'd list for sure.

The Black Donnelly's - It hasn't been bad, but it hasn't really got me hooked yet

Rules of Engagement - a keeper!

152

blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Thu, Mar 29, 2007, 09:54

The Dirt finale was a letdown. The 3 or 4 episodes leading up to it were good, but the finale blew, despite Jennifer Aniston.

Andy Barker is so-so so far. I was a big fan of Andy Richter Controls The Universe, but this one is not as good.

153

blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Fri, Apr 06, 2007, 17:20

What show do we want to stick around next season? Make sure you Fight For Lights.

154

rockafellerskank
ID: 450122417
Mon, Apr 09, 2007, 15:02

Surprised no comments yet on Soprano's last night. I don't think the final 8 can ever meet the expectations to wind this down (ala MASH and Seinfeld), but it was interesting. It's enough to keep the audience through the end. I could do without all the childhood psycho analysis crapola, but I suspect that will be tbe main theme through the end.

My wish list for the ending: Meadow takes over the Family

155

Rendle
ID: 1835226
Mon, Apr 09, 2007, 15:07

The fight between Tony and Bobby was classic. The best part was how Tony had the hotel stuck on his face. It was interesting though. With only 9 episodes left I thought they would just pursue all the other storylines which they really built up during the first half of the season(NJ vs NY, Tony vs Chris, Carmella learning more about Adrianna) instead of starting new stories(although not much happened except tension increasing between Tony and Janice/Bobby). Looks like Phil Leotardo gets back in the mix next week. Can't wait.

PS - The Black Donnellys is on a hiatus which I guess means it's pretty much done for good.

156

blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Mon, Apr 09, 2007, 15:22

Has Entourage jumped the shark?

Six Degrees was pulled again (2nd time) and is now officially canceled.

157

beastiemiked
ID: 3101646
Mon, Apr 09, 2007, 16:29

The Soprano's sucked last night. Anything more than 3 minutes of Janice ruins an episode.

The Office is by far the best show on TV right now. Dwight is going to go down as one of the greatest TV characters of all time.

158

Punk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Mon, Apr 09, 2007, 20:27

"How I Met Your Mother" was great tonight, laughed out loud alot. Hopefully it doesn't get the ax that is being Rumored.

159

Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Fri, Apr 13, 2007, 15:00

Jonesing for "Heroes", I found myself reading one of the recent "Graphic Novels". I believe these backstories are intended to be true/accurate, and the "War Buddies" one offers a VERY INTERESTING tidbit involving a major character.

160

Great One
ID: 201155199
Fri, Apr 13, 2007, 18:15

Anyone else enjoy "Thank God You're Here"?... I like it so far.

161

blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Mon, Apr 23, 2007, 16:12

Drive is officially added to the weekly watch list. Which is getting terribly short. Right now, it's something like...

Drive
24
How I Met Your Mother (when it's on)
Jericho
The Office (when it's on)
According To Jim (when it's on and Jericho isn't)
Simpsons (when it's on - all new in May)
Family Guy

Did I miss anything?
Dirt, Friday Night Lights, The Class, Studio 60, Andy Barker PI, Psych, Knights of Prosperity, Six Degrees... it was a good year.

162

Punk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Mon, Apr 23, 2007, 16:17

Believe tonight is supposed to be the "Mall singer" ep of HIMYM.

163

walk
Dude
ID: 32928238
Mon, Apr 23, 2007, 16:22

I cannot get enough of The Sopranos and don't understand comments like "it sucked." The show is just tops in terms of writing and acting like every week.

Entourage has not jumped at all. Freakin Ari (Jeremy) was on fire in episode #3. He ruled. Everyone else is almost secondary. E (Eric) I could do without, but he's the foil for the other 3. Carla Gugino is very hot. Jeremy Piven is right up there with Rainn Wilson for creating a very memoral character that will endure.

- walk

164

JeffG
Leader
ID: 01584348
Mon, Apr 23, 2007, 16:32

Regarding the Sopranos. Give me more mob stuff, less of the rest. When there is less mob related stuff in the more recent Sopranos episodes, to me it is not as fun to watch. Yes, the acting is very good, but personally, I can live without Tony's sister, wife, and kids. I can live without the scenes with Melfi. I'd be loving life if we did not have to deal with another 20 minutes of hospital scenes (last week's Johnny Sack episode). I can live without dream sequences like when Tony was in a coma.

When each episode ends, the scenes previews for the next eposide is predominantly mob only stuff, so they know what keeps the viewers interested.

In the older seasons where there was less of this other stuff, the show was much better IMO.

165

walk
Dude
ID: 32928238
Mon, Apr 23, 2007, 16:35

Yeah, I like the mob stuff, too, Jeff, but it's the whole picture ("the family") that makes the show go. The drama with this kid or that relative, etc. Without the whole family thing, and Melfi (the two being the genesis of the series), then it's just another mob movie. All this is my opinion and preference, of course.

- walk

166

blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Mon, Apr 23, 2007, 16:39

Oh yeah I forgot Entourage

167

J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Mon, Apr 23, 2007, 17:43

Heroes is back tonight!

Punk - I put that song on my ipod...love it!

where did Rules of Engagement go?
Anyone watching Thank G0d you're here? I tivo'd a couple but haven't watched yet. Saw the very first one and it was good. Although Stiffler's mom was awful.

168

Rendle
Donor
ID: 014815714
Mon, Apr 23, 2007, 17:57

Corrado's letter to Dick Cheney was hilarious. This episode may have been his swan song. He should be gone soon. Some people were mentioning on another message board that the crazy Asian guy was a weird coincidence with the whole Virginia Tech shooting and that the song playing even said the word Virginia when he was beating Junior down.

Those scenes with Paulie and Tony on the boat were pretty intense, especially when Tony was looking around and all he saw were weapons. The return of Pussy Bonapariaso was also welcome.

A bunch of Godfather references lately with Junior and the cat, Tony talking about the Tomato plants and the scene with tony and Bobby in the boat.

169

Punk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Mon, Apr 23, 2007, 20:24

As in #39, Lets all go to the mall, TODAY!

170

Skidazl
ID: 189142212
Tue, Apr 24, 2007, 11:38

Entourage is great, thanks for the heads up a while ago BH...

171

walk
Dude
ID: 32928238
Tue, Apr 24, 2007, 12:17

Good one Rendle #168. Yeah, loved that episode. I did not make the Godfather references; thanks for pointing that out.

I think Chase is creating a case for Tony to see the negatives in almost every character (Paulie, Chris, Bobby) while also setting up a NY-NJ war, Tony's $ problems, and then there's gotta be some kinda family crisis with either AJ or Meadow a comin'.

- walk

172

holt
ID: 50340153
Wed, Apr 25, 2007, 06:08

re: 12

a second season of survivorman will come out some time this year. Les has already filmed segments in the Amazon and Africa. you can read his field blogs here.

if you're a survivorman fan you eally should read it when you get a chance. it's almost as good as watching the show.

173

Rendle
Donor
ID: 014815714
Wed, Apr 25, 2007, 13:31

Definitely not new but I've been going through season 2 of Twin Peaks and the show is ridiculously good. Unfortunately I knew who the killer was beforehand but it's still great. This show has the quirkiest and weirdest characters ever. I bought the first season(only 7 episodes) on DVD a couple months ago for $35 and since it's gone out of print and could be found on Amazon and ebay for around $160. Anyone else a fan of this show because I'm pretty much hooked.

174

Boxman
ID: 571114225
Mon, Apr 30, 2007, 20:36

How I Met Your Mother tonight was just outstanding. Barney getting on The Price Is Right was great. What a show.

175

blue hen
ID: 472431014
Mon, Apr 30, 2007, 21:16

Drive canceled. Boo.

176

J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Tue, May 01, 2007, 13:24

Did anything interesting happen in the last couple minutes of Heroes? My tivo cut it off right when the "brother" vs brother battle was beginning!

177

blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Tue, May 01, 2007, 13:29

That was a great episode of How I Met Your Mother. Did anyone notice the ad for the Bob Barker special during a commercial? Hmm...

178

J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Tue, May 01, 2007, 13:41

who watches commercials? ;)

179

RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Tue, May 01, 2007, 14:17

Holt, re [172], thanks for the heads up on that. Survivorman is an awesome show.

180

Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Tue, May 01, 2007, 14:27

J - well you should have already seen that Sylar has been impersonating Nathan Petrelli for a while (years?? Since 'the bomb'??), using Janice's morphing power that he must have taken. So Peter tells 'Nathan' "Who are you? My brother doesn't have the power to walk through walls" - and Sylar morphs back into Sylar. Peter says he'll make Sylar pay for impersonating Nathan and Sylar makes his hands glow light blue like when Sprague used his power to "burn bright" like an EMP. At the same time Peter makes his hands glow orange like Sprague's nuclear powers.

At this point Mohinder is trying to keep the door shut as this "battle" goes on. He is struggling against the door being thrown open by the forces of whatever Peter and Sylar are doing, and you see extremely bright flashes of orange and blue light. Mohinder is yelling at the 'geeky' Hiro to use his power to transport them back. Hiro says he can't.....but Ando tells him he believes in him and gives him the sword, and they indeed teleport back to the 'present day'.

Hiro is energized by the site of NYC still standing and that he was successful in teleporting. He is armed with the unpublished issue of "9th Wonders", showing him shoving his sword into Sylar as the episode ends.

====================

Some things I've wondered since Heroes returned:

- Bennet knows that Peter is supposed to be the bomb. Yet when Parkman and Sprague help him escape Primatech, is Bennet really that stupid to take Sprague to New York where he obviously comes in contact with Peter to where Peter can absorb his power?!? If that contact never existed then Peter should never explode.

- In the fight described above, why on earth doesn't Peter just stop time and kill Sylar? Why a grandiose fight?

181

J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Tue, May 01, 2007, 14:33

that was awesome, thanks Species...

My other question is, what was with Peter's scar on his face in the future? He can heal!!!!

And the reason he doesn't stop time to kill Sylar is either that Peter doesn't have that power yet? Or thats just too easy and would make for bad tv :)

182

Tree
ID: 29082512
Tue, May 01, 2007, 14:54

My other question is, what was with Peter's scar on his face in the future? He can heal!!!!

my guess is that in the heat of the explosion, the open wound was cauterized, and thusly didn't close properly. basically, the cauterization happened before the healing.

And the reason he doesn't stop time to kill Sylar is either that Peter doesn't have that power yet? Or thats just too easy and would make for bad tv :)

Syler is indestructable. even if time is stopped. remember, he has the power of a cockroach now.

183

RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Tue, May 01, 2007, 15:10

Peter did have the ability to stop time, as seen with the Future-Hiro and Ando rescue.

Ms Fluid and I were also wondering what the scar was about, but figured it would be addressed. Figured wrong.

184

JeffG
Leader
ID: 01584348
Tue, May 01, 2007, 15:24

My other question is, what was with Peter's scar on his face in the future? He can heal!!!!

Peter can only mimic the power of nearby 'heroes' which was why he could do all those things in the battle with Future-Skylar because of his proximity. Skylar acquires powers of others after he kills them. Future-Since Clair is still alive, Peter could not heal.

I feel so geeky being able to answer that ;)

185

Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Tue, May 01, 2007, 15:26

Well, this is all just one version of the future. One has to assume that this version of the future will not unfold.

Sylar, in this version of the future eventually took Claire's power of regeneration, but not until the end of this episode (and not at "Homecoming"). Still, even with regeneration if you stopped time, sliced his head off and threw it into the ocean or launched it into space, even with the ability to 'regenerate' I assume that ability does not grow back a head.

.....so the future you saw was what did originally happen...then Hiro talked to Peter to change the past so that Sylar did not gain Claire's power at homecoming. So now we are on the 2nd version of that timeline, where we are hopeful that Hiro will still shove his sword into Sylar, this time killing him without his regeneration abilities.

186

Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Tue, May 01, 2007, 15:30

JeffG - I think you missed an episode or two. It has been shown that Peter does keep those powers that he absorbs. A hero with invisibility (Claude), who once worked with Bennet for the company, "taught" Peter some of the principals of controlling his powers and "pulling them out one-by-one without your symbiotic friend to help you". Subsequent to that, he has been shown the ability to use his powers without the other 'hero' nearby.

One can theorize that 'the bomb' happens because - from Peter's dream - when too many heroes are near him it might "overload" his abilities with too many nearby power boosts that he blows. Of course that's still to be determined.

187

Punk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Wed, May 02, 2007, 21:01

Next week is the big Jericho season finale. Anyone still watching the show? Pretty sure we all know who's going to die next week.

188

katietx
ID: 243562819
Wed, May 02, 2007, 23:39

Yep, still watching..

189

skinneej
Leader
ID: 040625911
Sun, May 06, 2007, 03:33

Two shows that I liked, Raines and The Winner, don't appear to be back for next season. Neither got very high ratings and both are unlikely to get picked up again. I hope the decisions are not made yet as neither article is definitive, but perhaps someone at the networks will champion them and give them some time to develop. I think the networks are way to quick in pulling shows that struggle at first, and it has to be more cost effective to work at an existing product then to develop a new one altogether.

190

katietx
ID: 11430613
Sun, May 06, 2007, 22:27

I tried Raines, and I like Jeff Goldblum as a movie actor but he just seemed out of sorts on the small screen.

Lost interest pretty quickly.

191

blue hen
ID: 472431014
Mon, May 07, 2007, 00:39

I am casting my ballot for Johnston Green although I'm not 100% certain of it. It could be Gail, and it could be Eric. But a Green will die.

I really like this show. It was overload having Friday Night Lights on the same day. It's very intelligent, and I will be pretty pissed off if we don't get to the end of the story.

On the other hand, we already know who bombed us and why and how Hawkins was involved. Are there any other mysteries?

192

Tree
ID: 3943475
Mon, May 07, 2007, 06:44

On the other hand, we already know who bombed us and why and how Hawkins was involved. Are there any other mysteries?

it's not just about mysteries. it's about the connection of people, about surviving in a small town in a post-nuclear world, about trying to re-build the world for future generations.

i'm still pretty sure Jonah and his crew will be back in one way or another. he may be a thief, but he's still his daughter's father, and he still loves her.

i'm not convinced a Green will die. i think a few of the deputies will die. i think the most important deaths will be Gray and Skylar.

Gray, because after numerous mistakes in judgement, finally extended a hand to the people he should have in the first place, so he has had some resolution, always a good sign someone will die.

Skylar, because Dale, who had become more and more vicious and hardened after years of being picked on, finally stopped thinking about just himself and Skylar in letting his "personal army" of the refugees to fight. when she gets killed, it'll "teach" him that he can't be worried about anyone else in the town, just those that are important to him, and eventually, he'll have his own army to challenge Jericho. a heel turn is in the books for him, big time.

193

katietx
ID: 11430613
Mon, May 07, 2007, 09:08

yowza...that was an awfully deep post for so early. ;-) you must have had turbo coffee this morning.

I agree that it will be Gray, as it is apparent he is a weenie and Johnston should be back "in power." Skylar, hmmm, not sure about that one.

and of course Jonah will be back-he's somewhat of a pivitol character.

194

Great One
Sustainer
ID: 053272014
Mon, May 07, 2007, 09:20

katie, I want to know how in the world you enjoyed such garbage as the Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift and yet walk out on Talladega Nights! lol..

195

katietx
ID: 11430613
Mon, May 07, 2007, 09:26

LOL - not saying that Tokyo Drift was "good" - but on a 54" plasma HD it was fun to watch.

Talladega Nights was just stupid beyond belief. I fear this week I will be subjected to Beer Fest at some point. Thank God for books. ;-)

196

Tree
ID: 29082512
Mon, May 07, 2007, 09:31

ABC sets end date for Lost..

The Emmy-winning adventure series will run for 48 more episodes over three seasons. Each season will consist of 16 episodes, which will air uninterrupted.

197

blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Mon, May 07, 2007, 10:19

Interesting. Good to see Jericho has a following in these parts.

First of all, I was really enjoying the fact that I knew very little about what actually happened. The discovery was important and interesting. Now that's gone and it's just another show about relationships and getting by under hardship. Which, in this case, is still pretty great, but definitely different.

I was starting to like Gray. He's a good foil to Johnston. I think they should keep that dynamic around.

It's not Dale's time yet. I think that heel turn will come next season. And you're right - it's a good fit. Skylar plays a big role there, obviously.

Maybe it will be Eric? He's been pretty useless lately, especially after they took away his one and only angle.

How about Bonnie (Stanley's sister)? That way, the relationship with Mimi can grow. Just a thought.

198

Tree
ID: 29082512
Mon, May 07, 2007, 10:52

i don't see another Green going, because we just lost one in April. her death, and the death of his unborn child, have hardened him, and made him more like his brother Jake.

speaking of Jake, there's still mystery there. we still don't know why he left Jericho in the first place, and i think there's still more to his past than we know - we know he smuggled drugs, and drove a truck in Iraq. but there's still more.

Gray is expendable to me for EXACTLY the reason you want to keep him around. he's a good foil for Johnston...but that's how heels and faces work. you can always bring in a new heel to work with Johnston. but bringing in a new face is a lot tougher. i think Dale and Jonah eventually combine their forces, and make for a formidable political and military enemy for Johnston and the rest of Jericho.

and yea, Bonnie dying could work, but i think it's more interested with her around. remember, this show has become about people and relationships, and the unease between Bonnie and Mimi, and Stanley and whatever Bonnie's boyfriend's name is, is a nice bit of tension.

and i think we already saw Stanley's "hardening"...when Gray sent those 8 men to their death by ignoring Johnston's military advice, we saw a different Stanley come back. he had been to war, and now, he's a warrior. he's not just a farmer anymore.

those final images of him last week - camo make up, and eyes of steel - were chilling.

199

katietx
ID: 11430613
Mon, May 07, 2007, 12:12

speaking of Jake, there's still mystery there. we still don't know why he left Jericho in the first place, and i think there's still more to his past than we know - we know he smuggled drugs, and drove a truck in Iraq. but there's still more.

and, he can fly a plane.

200

Boxman
ID: 251142612
Mon, May 07, 2007, 13:20

FINALLY! FINALLY! a good Sopranos last night. Keep that up and maybe it'll be a good season after all.

201

Punk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Mon, May 07, 2007, 14:38

Can't wait for it this week, but the rumor for the last bit has been a "HUGE" member of the show is going to be dieing, so that's why i'm just assuming Major Dad is gone. But then how many times can you almost kill him off in a season?

202

blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Tue, May 08, 2007, 11:08

24 sucked last night.

203

Rendle
Donor
ID: 014815714
Tue, May 08, 2007, 13:33

I agree. Milo getting killed was more a good thing than a bad thing. Now we don't have to hear his lame heart to hearts with Nadia.

This season can't end soon enough. It's amazing how little Jack we're getting and how much lame White House and CTU storylines they're throwing at us. The producers are concerned with all the bad reviews the show has been getting this year after their Emmy winning 5th season. They promised some major changes. It looks like Jack will be moving away from LA and CTU.

204

blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Tue, May 08, 2007, 13:50

I heard Season 7 was going to be in New York. But that was from Fox 5 NY, so who knows?

I actually liked Milo. He was what he was supposed to be: the reluctant leader. I'm not exactly sure how Nadia trumped him to become the interim director, but I guess she needed a more prominent role.

Ricky Schroeder has been the highlight of this season. Who knew? I was starting to think that he could probably spin off and do his own show, but, really, 24 needs him.

The whole White House thing reeks. It's even more unrealistic than in any previous seasons.

At least Daddy Bauer is the bad guy. That keeps me moderately interested.

205

RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Tue, May 08, 2007, 14:56

Was it more or was this latest Heroes a "damn, I needed more drugs to follow it" episode?

I didn't tape it, but wish I had. That whole Sylar at Mom's house was stupid. Suddenly Sylar has a conscience...come on. Killin's killin! Nut up you genetically muted super freak wussy!

206

J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Tue, May 08, 2007, 14:56

Anyone else disappointed by Heroes last night?

They try and make us feel sorry for Sylar for a minute, then he kills his mom?

And how did he gain the ability to
-1- unfreeze time
-2- freeze the sword
(note - I did miss 4 of the first 6 episodes)

207

Tree
ID: 29082512
Tue, May 08, 2007, 15:18

1. why was it disappointing? it wasn't about feeling sorry for Sylar.

it was about showing that despite being Superhumans, at their root, the Heroes are all humans, and deal with human emotions. his mother's insistence that he be something special, combined with her death, set him off, and now he's got no remorse with killing people that are unrelated to his "mission".

2. who knows. he's been killing Heroes all along. we haven't seen every one he has killed, so presumably, he got those abilities from some of the other Heroes he killed.

208

katietx
ID: 11430613
Wed, May 09, 2007, 20:35

OMG! he died!

209

Punk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Thu, May 10, 2007, 07:09

Seeeeee told you. That was the one that you just saw coming and in other series wouldn't think that one. Overall it was a good season, got a little muddy in the middle but then picked back up.

210

Tree
ID: 29082512
Thu, May 10, 2007, 08:49

that was a definite shocker.

and that was also the cliff hanger of all cliff hangers, especially since we're not even sure if the show is returning!!!

211

katietx
ID: 11430613
Thu, May 10, 2007, 09:05

cutting production costs...a hell of a way to do that.

212

blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Thu, May 10, 2007, 10:16

See post #191. Dead on.

While Johnston was a great character, it's fairly fitting that he passes on and passes the torch. As the show progressed, I thought it might be Eric.

There are a lot of good things to say here...

- Excellent use of the tank. I like a show with a memory.
- Good use of the army base. They really are a remnant of the US Army, with real guns and real planes. That entire part was perfectly reasonable except for how someone gets from New Bern, KS to Nebraska without a car.
- Of course Jake was going to tell Lassiter (Constantino) "nuts." I think we all saw that coming.
- Even though it's war, this is much less gruesome than other shows like 24. Much easier to watch those parts.
- Dale's still a good guy. The heel turn needs some buildup, but it's in a good place.
- Anyone care to guess how the Stanley/Mimi wedding is going to get messed up?
- I like the flashbacks here. Not too much, but they give you a little info about previous lives of characters. I'll stand by the "Before Jericho" sub-series idea.

This show HAS to be picked up. Even more than Friday Night Lights.

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Tree
ID: 29082512
Thu, May 10, 2007, 12:03

- Good use of the army base. They really are a remnant of the US Army, with real guns and real planes. That entire part was perfectly reasonable except for how someone gets from New Bern, KS to Nebraska without a car.

a true remnant. the U.S. Flag had but 21 stars. (i think that's how many i counted).

also - i think you must have missed the beginning of the show as presumably, you're talking about how Heather made it from New Bern to Nebraska.

they showed three bodies laying beside a destroyed car. a group of men - later revealed to be U.S. Soldiers - came across the bodies, and discovered one of the bodies was still alive. that person was shown to be Heather, and they must have brought her to Nebraska.

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blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Fri, May 11, 2007, 11:21

Ah, you're right. I totally saw it but forgot about it.

Man, I can't wait for next season.

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Tree
ID: 414221314
Sun, May 13, 2007, 16:18

Man, I can't wait for next season.

that's a HUGE if...

i believe the network will announce it's line up on wednesday - or at least its renewal schedule. hopefully, Jericho will be on that, but the ratings have been quite low.

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katietx
ID: 11430613
Sun, May 13, 2007, 17:02

:-|

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blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Mon, May 14, 2007, 19:45

Friday Night Lights has been officially renewed. It really will be Friday Night Lights this time... Fridays at 10 PM. I wonder how that will work out...

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Tree
ID: 29082512
Tue, May 15, 2007, 14:36

sadly, it's looking grim for Jericho.

it was posted elsewhere on the internet that Carol Barbee - one of the show producers, said "just got the call. We're gone..."

TVGuide.com TV Guide is saying the same thing...

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Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Tue, May 15, 2007, 14:46

It shall be fascinating to see how Heroes ends the season. They have placed all of the chess pieces on the board, along with knocking several of them off! I especially liked DL's execution of Linderman.

If you are an actor and are auditioning for a part in Heroes, don't hope for a long ride! Characters falling left and right!

I love the show, but there is still a flaw in the storyline. As crucial as eliminating Molly Walker might be to keeping Claire safe, for Bennet to involve Sprague and endanger his powers being absorbed by Peter (or taken by Sylar), knowing the future of 'the bomb', is just completely counter-intuitive.

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Tree
ID: 29082512
Tue, May 15, 2007, 15:02

yea, they killed off - what - four people last night?

I especially liked DL's execution of Linderman.

yea, but is Linderman really dead? i mean, he can heal other people. can he heal himself?

and i think instead of eliminating Molly, using her to find Syler would be a smarter idea.

also - and my mind is blanking - but the woman who was "Babysitting" Mica - clearly will be involved much deeper, and i think it'll involve the "real" her.

we obviously haven't seen what she really looks like - the "Her" we see is an illusion, because she acknowledged that she was quite large, and that she hated how people constantly picked on her.

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katietx
ID: 11430613
Tue, May 15, 2007, 18:15

re: 218 - No!! That really sucks.

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blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Tue, May 15, 2007, 18:40

I can't find an "actual" reference for Jericho, and I saw somewhere that it was being kept.

223

Rendle
Donor
ID: 014815714
Tue, May 15, 2007, 18:44

Jericho

The show sounded solid so I'll probably pick this and Heroes(haven't heard any negative reviews) up on DVD. I think I read Heroes will be released at the end of August.

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Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Tue, May 15, 2007, 19:04

Tree: yeah, we had:

Thompson (Bennet's old boss)
Linderman
Sprague
DL Hawkins

But as you note, is Linderman really dead? You'd have to assume having your brains pulled out/having a huge hole in your head would do it....but who knows (hell Janice could use her ability to make DL "see" pulling his brains out - there could be a dozen explanations in a future episode - you'd think he's too mythical a character not to have around the background pulling the strings). DL is shown with a bullet in his stomach but not exactly dead.....so again who knows.

Janice is the name of the gal you're referring to. The key quote about her ability was "I can make people see what I want them to" - which goes well beyond a Mystique (from X-men) like morphing ability. The part where from 2 episodes ago where Micah 'escapes' the suite and starts running around the building, only to go into endless loops of the same room and hallway was pretty trippy - and a hugely powerful ability. You could make Sylar think he's walking into a phone booth and have him walk in to a variety of things.

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blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Tue, May 15, 2007, 20:23

I seriously hope they find a way to get more Jericho episodes, even if they have to show them online and with a lower quality.

226

blue hen
ID: 472431014
Tue, May 15, 2007, 23:53

Argh. The message boards are only making it worse.

227

Tree
ID: 424131523
Wed, May 16, 2007, 00:15

i've heard the producers are "done", so there won't be any continuation on Sci Fi either. they said as soon as they are legally able, they'll post what would have happened...

i cannot believe a fantastic show like this wont be give a reprieve...

228

Punk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Wed, May 16, 2007, 01:45

Sounds like what CBS did with Joan of Arcadia, at the very end it got interesting to where you wanted to know what was going to happen and then.............

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Boxman
ID: 251142612
Wed, May 16, 2007, 13:44

I seriously hope they find a way to get more Jericho episodes, even if they have to show them online and with a lower quality.

Jericho got cancelled. I saw it reported on CNN.

230

Great One
Sustainer
ID: 053272014
Wed, May 16, 2007, 14:35

When Dwight started doing "The Aristocrats" joke on The Office, worlds began colliding... up became down, left became right... sheer brilliance.

231

TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Wed, May 16, 2007, 20:03

I hope Jericho makes it back. I agree that the mid-season lull really sucked and have to admit that I thought the show was starting to drag a little before the break. It really picked up after the break, though, and I'd like to see what happens next. I don't want it to end where it did.

232

Great One
ID: 201155199
Wed, May 16, 2007, 22:21

All 21 Heroes episodes on Sci-Fi this Saturday. Seems like a good way to fill up the DVR heading into summer!

233

Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Wed, May 16, 2007, 22:38

If they scrapped everything on TV now and just started over from scratch, I'd be OK with that.

We're in an era of TV that reminds me of the early 2000's in the music industry.

Barren as a desert and more endless.

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blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Thu, May 17, 2007, 11:46

There are two Jericho-related websites you might want to visit. Jericho Lives and Jericho Rally Point. If you're really interested in this show being brought back, you should sign up and post at those sites and on the CBS Jericho page.

235

Great One
Sustainer
ID: 053272014
Thu, May 17, 2007, 12:11

Don't forget the late 80's, that was pretty awful until Nirvana came along... right Mr. Crue?! :)

236

Rendle
Donor
ID: 014815714
Thu, May 17, 2007, 13:17

Network televisions is really going downhill with very little originality but the premium channels have been turning out many great shows:

Sopranos
Big Love
Dexter
Curb Your Enthusiasm
The Wire
Entourage
Deadwood(just ended)
Rome(just ended)
Six Feet Under(ended a couple years ago)

All of those shows except Dexter are HBO. It just seems like they're using a much higher budget and more willing to take chances.

237

Great One
ID: 201155199
Sat, May 19, 2007, 20:57

I taped all these Heroes episodes from the marathon but I guess I took it for granted that they would be in order. Very confused!

238

J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Sat, May 19, 2007, 23:14

I think they started from episode 7 or so this morning. The pilot is on right now (11pm ET) with the next couple of hours in a row (I think)

Makes no sense at all, but thank you tivo!!!!!

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Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Sun, May 20, 2007, 00:01

This might help:

Heroes episode link

Gives you a link to the names of the episodes so you could watch in order.

Got to admit though, when I set up my DVR I wondered WTF about playing back OUT of order!

240

Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Sun, May 20, 2007, 02:12

Wow......got through the first 3 episodes of Heroes (still taping). It's definitely cool to go back now that you know a lot of other stuff from the season:

- Someone wondered where Sylar got the freezing power to freeze Hiro's sword....well he used that freezing power to kill Molly's father....so he's had it a while.
- The "Godsend" DNA-molecule looking symbol (on Hiro's sword, 'The Haitian's' necklace, etc) is strewn all over the place. In episode 2, when Mohinder discoveres his father's algorithm, when you see it scroll on the screen you see the 'Godsend' symbol. It's also in the scene immediately thereafter when the pool filter hose is shaped like it in the pool of Molly's house....and it was written on Claire's geometry book.

It's definitely worth some time to refresh one's memory as we get ready for the Season Finale.

241

Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Mon, May 21, 2007, 01:11

In the episode where George Takei confronts Hiro about his 'mission', when Takei leaves in his Maybach, I lmao when I saw the license plate:

NCC 1701

Nice touch.

242

katietx
ID: 11430613
Mon, May 21, 2007, 09:41

lol - missed that one. will have to go back and take a look.

243

J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Mon, May 21, 2007, 22:07

Wow! So when does Volume 2 of Heroes start?????

244

katietx
ID: 11430613
Mon, May 21, 2007, 22:20

the fall

245

katietx
ID: 11430613
Mon, May 21, 2007, 22:28

the fall

246

J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Mon, May 21, 2007, 22:43

Heroes:Origins

Heroes: Origins is an upcoming American science fiction drama television series, a spinoff of NBC's hit show Heroes. Heroes: Origins will introduce one new character per episode, and viewers will choose which character will join the main cast at the end of the run. The second season of Heroes and the first season of Heroes: Origins will include a total of 30 episodes.

------------------------------------
Also found this:

*NBC �bulks up� with 30 combined episodes of "Heroes" and �Heroes: Origins,� an innovative new spin-off that each week will introduce a new character -- one of whom will be chosen by viewers through the �Heroes� website on NBC.com to become a cast regular the following season.

*The network has ordered 30 half-hours of the hit series "The Office," including five hour-long episodes, and also has increased the season order for "My Name Is Earl" to 25 episodes.

*Jerry Seinfeld, star of the classic NBC mega-hit "Seinfeld," returns to the network to create and star in 20 unique live-action comedy �minisodes� inspired by his experiences creating the upcoming DreamWorks animated feature film "Bee Movie," in theaters November 2. NBC Universal will also have the exclusive U.S. broadcast and cable network rights to the film, which features Seinfeld as the voice of Barry B. Benson, a disillusioned bee. Produced by Seinfeld and DreamWorks, the 20 comedy shorts will give viewers a glimpse at Seinfeld's behind-the-scenes antics during production of the movie. The �minisodes� will run on NBC's primetime schedule this Fall, as well as on NBC.com, on designated days before and after the release of the film.

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skinneej
Leader
ID: 040625911
Mon, May 21, 2007, 23:19

Hate to interrupt this Heroes discussion (maybe you guys need a separate thread :), but here are a couple series notes that I gathered.

As expected, shows like Raines (NBC) and The Winner (Fox) got the official boot, and other shows like Friday Night Lights, the Office, and Til Death got night/time changes. Lights is actually moving to Fridays which probably means its on the way out soon, and NBC juggled their Thurs night time slots to put 30 Rock ahead of The Office and Scrubs. Not sure why they did that. Raines has a chance to be picked up by a cable network like USA or Bravo from what I have read, but it may be tough to get Goldblum back if movie deals are available.

Other notes: How I met... is back on Mondays at it's normal slot, and New Adventures...Christine will be back as a mid-season replacement. Rules of Engagement is slated to take the King of Queens timeslot on Mondays. Lost will not be back until Jan/Feb 08 due to the news that it will only run a 16 episode continuous season. It will be a long wait to find out what happens after this week's big finale battle for the island.

There are others I am sure that could be mentioned, but that about sums up what I see from the fall lineup. Not much new stuff out in the fall with much promise it seems, so we can only hope the shows we like stick it out.

248

Tree
ID: 154222122
Mon, May 21, 2007, 23:29

jericho is getting some crazy media coverage. CBS is now posting they will find a way to wrap things up, but the fans aren't relenting. they want renewal.

letters are being sent, phone calls are being made, and the message boards are being flooded and are close to crashing.

and some of the stars have begun posting on the boards!

and then of course, there is this - which is literally "nuts",

but so far, over 1500 pounds of nuts have been sent to the CBS offices!

249

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, May 22, 2007, 01:45

Anyone else watching The Riches on FX?

250

blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Tue, May 22, 2007, 13:09

Hey CBS,

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Punk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Tue, May 22, 2007, 14:19

I prefer the light brown one on the bottom, but I don't think i've seen them shiny like that.

252

katietx
ID: 11430613
Tue, May 22, 2007, 14:28

that's called a cashew

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Punk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Tue, May 22, 2007, 14:30

I know it is, just wanted to point it out.

254

Punk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Tue, May 22, 2007, 14:30

I feel like i'm a kindergardener after that post haha.

255

katietx
ID: 11430613
Tue, May 22, 2007, 17:11

lol...go stand in the corner!

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Punk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Wed, May 23, 2007, 04:17

Which corner, there are soooo many!

257

katietx
ID: 11430613
Wed, May 23, 2007, 08:13

lol

258

blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Wed, May 23, 2007, 11:20

Wow. 8 thousand pounds of nuts in two days. Can you imagine if the rallying cry had been "stinkbomb"?

259

blue hen
ID: 472431014
Mon, May 28, 2007, 02:38

And the Jericho saga continues...

260

Punk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Mon, May 28, 2007, 04:01

To the fans of Jericho:

We have read your emails over the past few days and have been touched by the depth and passion with which you have expressed your disappointment. Please know that canceling a television series is a very difficult decision. Hundreds of people at the Network, the production company and the incredibly-talented creative team worked very hard to build and serve the community for this show -- both on-air and online. It is a show we loved too.

Thank you for supporting Jericho with such passion. We truly appreciate the commitment you made to the series and we are humbled by your disappointment. In the coming weeks, we hope to develop a way to provide closure to the compelling drama that was the Jericho story.

Sincerely,

Nina Tassler, President of CBS Entertainment

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Tree
ID: 41449287
Mon, May 28, 2007, 09:23

nearly 25,000 pounds of nuts!

262

Boxman
ID: 571114225
Mon, May 28, 2007, 12:37

I'm a pecan man myself. It stinks to high hell that this show wasn't even allowed to wrap up it's story. CBS screwed it up to begin with via the huge break in between the fall and early spring episodes. If they want to cancel it, fine, but at least give the series 6 episodes or so to finish it.

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blue hen
ID: 472431014
Mon, May 28, 2007, 19:51

No way.

Only season 2 will do.

The ratings weren't even that bad. Especially considering that the show attracted intelligent fans who viewed the show via Tivo or online. The online numbers were actually pretty staggering.

But yes, it stinks. I do think it'll be brought back, but once the announcement has been made, there are a lot of things that need to happen to undo it - contracts, dealing with the show it'll replace, etc. I'm betting on late June.

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Boxman
ID: 571114225
Mon, May 28, 2007, 20:31

The ratings weren't even that bad. Especially considering that the show attracted intelligent fans who viewed the show via Tivo or online. The online numbers were actually pretty staggering.

I saw an article that confirmed just that. Jericho was popular in foreign countries and with DVR users, both of which are apparently not calculated in the Nielon numbers.

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Tree
ID: 41449287
Mon, May 28, 2007, 20:49

much like LOST, a large part of Jericho's "decline" in ratings was due to DVR users.

many of the Jericho actors have been posting on the Jerico boards. at first, they were silent, but as the voice of the fans grew louder, they started commenting on the outpouring of support...

266

Boxman
ID: 571114225
Mon, May 28, 2007, 21:45

Jericho, and LOST, are really shows that are perfect for DVRs. The stories can be slow, although meaningful, and sometimes like the spice that make commericials tolerable. They're an hour long so a DVR can cut that down to around 40 minutes or so.

I would imagine there's a sizeable group of folks that watch both LOST and Jericho. They are similar shows in the grand scheme in that they are both "thinking" shows.

Networks are just going to have to adapt to DVRs. They are not going anywhere and neither are internet viewings of shows. If they want more ad revenue, then they need to look at product placement or more episodes that have limited commericials but then are sponsored by a company.

If shows like Jericho ("thinking" shows) get the axe and all we have are comedies and reality shows, TV is going to royally suck and I think network TV will suffer as a result.

I bet HBO or Showtime could pick up Jericho and make it a big time winner. No commercials, no censors, just let it rip. I think it would rock.

267

Donkey Hunter
ID: 344171020
Tue, May 29, 2007, 09:41

Speaking of "thinking" shows, I miss Arrested Development.

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Punk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Tue, May 29, 2007, 15:44

I've got all 3 AD seasons on DVD and have watched them a few times. The saddest thing about it was what happened the begining of season 3 with Charlies Theron, it jsut went BAD, and then magically when "Little Britton" was over it was back to it's great self, which was also the point it was told it wasn't going to be renewed. So many classic moments, with most of them being stuff that Tobias said.

269

RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Tue, May 29, 2007, 17:43

Speaking of shows that should be revived before any others, I miss Firefly.

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Tree
ID: 29082512
Tue, Jun 05, 2007, 17:09

and it's looking like Jericho might actually be saved!!!

Multiple sources are telling me that CBS is thisclose to sealing a deal to bring Jericho back for at least eight episodes, possibly at mid-season.

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blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Tue, Jun 05, 2007, 17:39

I saw that too, on a bunch of websites, but most of them were quoting that article.

Unfortunately, it's only eight episodes, and not a full season.

272

Tree
ID: 29082512
Tue, Jun 05, 2007, 17:53

8 episodes is 8 more than the network obviously had plans for.

and who knows - if the ratings go up, maybe even more! :o)

273

Boxman
ID: 571114225
Tue, Jun 05, 2007, 19:18

Change the NUTS! campaign. How many episodes are in a typical season of a show? Put that many nuts in a bag.

274

Tree
ID: 29082512
Wed, Jun 06, 2007, 10:30

Thanks to Jericho Fans from Brad, Bob and Richard...

275

blue hen
ID: 472431014
Sun, Jun 10, 2007, 19:18

Jericho is back. The ratings have to follow or we'll be back at it again. I urge everyone who reads this thread to at least watch the first episode on CBS innertube. Give it a shot and if you don't like it, fine.

Veronica Mars has started a similar campaign with Snickers. Were Mars bars taken? I'm pretty sure that one won't be as successful.

Tonight I am going to watch the series premier John From Cincinnati and the season premier of The Loop. Will they be as good as the shows I started watching last fall? We shall see...

276

JeffG
Leader
ID: 01584348
Mon, Jun 11, 2007, 09:55

I DVR'd the two "The Loop" episodes last night. I loved this show last season. Very funny IMO. Definitely looking forward to seeing this back on the air.

277

Rendle
ID: 56561210
Sat, Jun 16, 2007, 03:19

Just finished watching all 23 Heroes episodes and the show really grew on me. Hiro is as badass as it gets. One thing that annoyed me was how often they used the word "hero" during the show. Most of the time it was just weird.

Read this about next season:

CCI: What do viewers have to look forward to in volume two?

TK: Volume two may not last an entire season. It will pick up a few of the questions that will be left hanging in volume one. But you can look forward to the introduction of a new character and a villain and the idea of the show having a kind of global feel is only increased in volume two.

CCI: When you say volume two will not be an entire season, do you mean you'll start volume three in the next season?

TK: Yes, volume three will start in the middle of the season or toward the end of the season. There is a complete season next year, with about 23 episodes, but the idea is that the show is told in volumes and each one is sort of looked at as one book in a series of books, and then we move on to another volume. This allows us to not get caught up in one giant story that needs to be dragged on. One of the lessons we've learned from other shows is that that you can't (let the show) get wrapped up so tightly around itself that it doesn't have any breathing room left. You can't introduce any new concepts because you're so busy on the freight train that is that story. The story becomes a big giant engine that gets harder and harder to hop off.

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blue hen
ID: 472431014
Sat, Jun 16, 2007, 21:51

I've watched the first two episodes of Traveler. It's not bad, but it's a real serial - you'd be totally lost if you haven't watched everything prior. It's on at the same time as Rescue Me, which I tivo'd but haven't watched yet.

279

beastiemiked
ID: 3101646
Mon, Jun 18, 2007, 20:10

What happened to the hot roommates on The Loop? The episode last night sucked compared to season 1. The storylines that involved his roommates were always so much better than the work storylines. The show needs to realize it's not The Office.

280

J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Thu, Jun 21, 2007, 23:33

Not exactly "new" but I just read TBS is gonna start showing reruns of The Office.

Under the deal, TBS will be able to air one hour of episodes from previous "Office" seasons each week. That number will increase to 12 plays per week when the show goes into regular off-network syndication in fall 2009.

At that time, TBS also will have non-exclusive broadband, on-demand and wireless rights to the show.

TBS gets rights to reshow 'Office'

281

C1-NRB
ID: 5932328
Tue, Jul 10, 2007, 10:08

The World Series of Pop Culture Season 2 started last night on VH1.

I think I missed my true calling in life. Of the two rounds that aired last night, I think I missed a grand total of four questions.

282

Tree
ID: 3533298
Tue, Jul 10, 2007, 10:19

BTW - they began to replay Jericho this past friday.

for those who haven't watched this show, i urge you to give it a whirl.

yes, you missed the first episode, that started to establish a lot of the main characters, but there are still plenty of main characters that haven't even been introduced yet.

or, you could go back online and watch that one episode at CBS.com. this is a fantastic show. give it a chance, and you will be as enthralled as the loons who sent in 15 tons of nuts to get the show saved...

283

Rendle
Donor
ID: 014815714
Tue, Jul 10, 2007, 14:19

I watched the series a couple weeks ago over the internet and thought it was pretty good. It's tough for these serial shows to survive but this one definitely deserves it. Especially with that cliffhanger.

284

blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Thu, Jul 12, 2007, 14:22

Actually, they're skipping the first half of Jericho (after the pilot), so tomorrow night they show two episodes: the "recap" of the first 11, and episode #12, Black Jack.

If you're not up for watching online, you'll be fine if you watch tomorrow, because the second half of the season is better than the first.

285

Skidazl
ID: 189142212
Thu, Jul 12, 2007, 18:39

Anybody watch the latest episode of "Entourage" and notice the shaving cream on E's face in the first scene? If not, and you still have it TIVO'd, check it out it's pretty funny...

286

tommyd7878
ID: 38552137
Thu, Jul 12, 2007, 20:31

I was about to mention Traveler, it's been pretty good so far. Is the new Heroe's show supposed to start soon?

287

blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Fri, Jul 13, 2007, 12:17

I watch Traveler (see post 278). It looks like next week we get to find out a lot. It was pretty cool seeing Will do what he did at the end of this week's episode. The show won't last, by the way. I hope they prepare for this to be over after season 1.

288

blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Fri, Jul 13, 2007, 12:27

Speaking of... is anyone watching Jericho that didn't watch before? Apparently, it won the time slot last Friday, so I hope you guys are watching.

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blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Fri, Jul 20, 2007, 00:10

Reminder, Jericho tomorrow night.

I have 3 new shows on the slate.

Greek, an ABCFamily show about fraternity life. The first episode was pretty interesting; we'll see how it goes.

Bronx Is Burning is only so-so so far. I was really looking forward to this, so hopefully it picks up.

Big Brother 8. I didn't watch Big Brother until halfway through last season. Mike Boogie and Will are awesome. This season, the cast is lackluster, but I'm still watching.

My favorites to watch:
1. Eric
2. Zach
3. Amber

Least favorites to watch:
1. Nick
2. Jessica
3. Kail

Best chance of winning
1. Mike
2. Zach
3. Dustin

290

wiggs
ID: 2542623
Fri, Jul 20, 2007, 00:25

BH, hate to disagree with you here, but i absolutely hate amber, I cant stand that she cries about everything.

291

blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Fri, Jul 20, 2007, 10:02

That's the point - you just wait to see when she's going to cry. Same with Zach. He's been so even-keel that you can't imagine him getting riled up (although he got mad at Jameka earlier this week).

292

blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Fri, Jul 20, 2007, 10:02

Wiggs, who are your favorites?

293

walk
ID: 75112114
Fri, Jul 20, 2007, 11:11

Agree with you about Bronx is Burning, bh. My wife and I were both 15 during this time, and lived as die-hard Yankee fans in the 70s (only me now...). It is really cool to see this historical take on NYC during this time, but otherwise, the mini-series has a total "TV movie" look and feel. The best parts are the exchanges between Steinbrenner and Martin, or more accurately, Turturro and Platt, two stud actors who do an excellent job. Otherwise, the clubhouse scenes are pretty lame, except for the funny quips from Mickey Rivers. The Rescue Me actor playing Reggie lacks the ooomph for me. Thurman comes across as a cry-baby and no other players are included, even though the NYY had a huge number of other stars (Catfish, Mickey, Willie, Bucky, Guidry, Goose, Nettles). The Son of Sam stuff is interesting, but already covered 10x better by Spike Lee and Michael Imperioli (writer) in the film starring John Leguizamo, "Summer of Sam."

- walk

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wiggs
ID: 2542623
Fri, Jul 20, 2007, 13:20

Eric is my favorite
after that in no real order
Dick
zach
daniele
nick

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blue hen
ID: 16322314
Wed, Jul 25, 2007, 12:33

Is Dick still your favorite?

If I'm trying to win, there's no way I vote for Kail right now. Mike is much more of a threat, and I would definitely try to get him out now. Fortunately, his biggest ally is Kail, and if he stays, she's gone.

I think Kail will go anyway, but it's not smart. And now Mike has proved to someone (Zach? Nick? Jen? Jameka? there HAS to be something going on) that he's loyal and will stay the course. If he survives this, he's in good shape, other than Kail being gone.

296

wiggs
ID: 466282512
Wed, Jul 25, 2007, 13:31

I didnt see last nights show. I just bought the wii and spent the whole night playing that. I tivoed BB8 so I will watch that tonight probably.

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blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Mon, Jul 30, 2007, 00:06

There are too many damn spoilers on the internet. For Big Brother, I mean.

Eric is about to have his cover blown.

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Toral
ID: 575542418
Tue, Aug 07, 2007, 20:06

Right now -- CBS -- "The Power of 10" -- requires 2 contestants to compete at guessing what a national poll said. Drew Carey host. Looks good.

Toral

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Toral
ID: 575542418
Tue, Aug 07, 2007, 20:27

Liberals might like this question:

"What percentage of Americans said that in a duel with Dick Cheney, they would probably be shot by the Vice President, or the other way around?"

Audience reaction is high indicating -- Cheney would be the shooter.

My guess is 60% Cheney.

Contestant has a 20% range to continue. Picks 35%-55%.

He's going for $100K.

Answer (from poll): 43%.

Contestant continues.

(Funny: crowd (presumably NY crowd) chants "Cheney, Cheney, Cheney...)

Toral

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Toral
ID: 575542418
Tue, Aug 07, 2007, 20:38

Power of 10 doings. CBS. Right now.

National poll, asked of women:

"Do you consider yourself a feminist?"

My guess: 43%

Contestant has a 10% range.

Studio audience graph of answers peaks around 37% -- but the graph is not symmetrical.

Contestant's father advises: 15-20%.

This is for $1 million or losing $100K.

Contestant can walk away with $100K. He guesses 23-33%. He decides to risk his $100K to win $1 million.

For $1 million dollars.

Answer: He won. $1 million dollars.

Toral

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Tree
ID: 39732718
Tue, Aug 07, 2007, 20:42

a 19 year old kid to boot...

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Tree
ID: 39732718
Tue, Aug 07, 2007, 20:44

holy crap. now he can risk that million for 10 million.

no way do i go for it. a 1 in 11 chance.

303

Toral
ID: 575542418
Tue, Aug 07, 2007, 20:50

Agree, tree. No one will ever go for the $10 million superprize.

Do you think the show will succeed?

Toral

304

J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Tue, Aug 07, 2007, 21:24

Anyone watch the show "My Boys" on TBS? i'm a huge Jim Gaffigan fan...I set it up to tivo. It started last night i think i may have missed the first episode. I think it re-airs tomorrow night though.

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Tree
ID: 39732718
Tue, Aug 07, 2007, 22:14

i think the problem with the show is that, honestly, while interesting, it gets boring fast.

i also can't really see anyone going for that 10 million. 10 million is a lot of money - but for most people, 1 million is a lot of money, and if you're intelligent with your money, and you're young, you can turn 1 million into 10 million with less risk.

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Addicted
Dude
ID: 4611592518
Wed, Aug 08, 2007, 03:43

J,
I love the show "My Boys".
You can watch previous episodes at tbs.com.
This is the second season. The first season started last December I think...
They had a marathon in the Spring. I believe I recorded it, if your interested.

Jim Gaffigan is greatas PJ's brother, Andy.

I especially like the first season finale when the gang surprises Andy with a day on Wringley Field.

--Addicted--

307

C1-NRB
ID: 5932328
Wed, Aug 08, 2007, 09:45

FX has had some pretty good shows.
My wife started watching "Damages" and wants to add it to the rotation.

I saw a commercial during "Damages" for "It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia." I thought it had been mentioned before in this tread but I didn't see it after a cursory glance. It had a short run and has been picked up for another season. It's really funny.

308

C1-NRB
ID: 17348117
Fri, Aug 10, 2007, 20:24

The new season of "Survivorman" starts at the top of the hour on Discovery Channel.

309

J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 23:41

Heroe's season 1 is out on DVD. Just got it at WalMart for $35 (includes 4 episodes of Friday Night Lights for some reason)

Anyways, supposedly there's a never-been-aired pilot episode. Unless my DVD is screwed up, i'm pretty sure I'm watching the first episode, which I've already seen. Anyone else watch the pilot?

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J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 10:23

Ok, apparently I had false expecations for this unaired pilot.

The unaired version includes most of episode 1, but they add in a couple of scenes from other episodes as well what is basically some deleted scenes.

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