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| Posted by: ChicagoTRS
- Leader [566152116] Wed, Oct 18, 2006, 14:38
Poker discussion continued.
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| | | 1 | ChicagoTRS
Leader
ID: 566152116
Thu, Oct 19, 2006, 09:46
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Poker sites taking US customers:
Full Tilt
PokerStars
Absolute
Ultimate Bet
Those are the biggies anyway...
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| | | 2 | ChicagoTRS
Leader
ID: 566152116
Thu, Oct 19, 2006, 09:46
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Anyone got a rakeback site they trust for fulltilt?
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| | | 4 | rockafellerskank
ID: 49136120
Thu, Oct 19, 2006, 10:30
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I use this site for several rake deals. They have a small referal program, if you decide to do it, you can use this link and I'll split it with you 50/05.
refer a friend link
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| | | 5 | KnicksFan
ID: 411054411
Thu, Oct 19, 2006, 10:52
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I'll split it with you 50/05.
I'll take the other 45%!!!
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| | | 6 | tommyd
ID: 2832309
Thu, Oct 19, 2006, 11:07
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Tribeca network is still taking as well
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| | | 7 | KM
ID: 319311512
Thu, Oct 19, 2006, 13:55
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TRS.. I am using Rakebrain. Very big. Easy signup, daily stats displayed.
www.rakebrain.com
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| | | 8 | KM
ID: 319311512
Thu, Oct 19, 2006, 14:06
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This is NOT good news:
Neteller issues new statement
It looks like they are going to bail on us. Who knows if someone is going to step up in their place.
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| | | 9 | ChicagoTRS
Leader
ID: 566152116
Thu, Oct 19, 2006, 17:48
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I still need to figure out how to move my bankroll...just got a huge check from my old site..with neteller bailing will have to see what else is available...
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| | | 10 | Deadeye
ID: 45929912
Thu, Oct 19, 2006, 18:50
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what is the best poker boook.. i realize that i don't play odds but people call everything that i have...
Everytime i go all in i get a caller.. everytime . yesterday i had 100
the ohter guy had 65
i bet 8 pre flop with AA
I had AA
He had K3 offsuit
The flop was K J 6 no I think it was a rainbow…
I bet 15 he calls
Turn 8
I bet another 25 he calls
River 6
I go all in
He calls
people call me with anything... it's amazing.. everytime i raise 2 or 3 bucks i get 4 peopel calling
so i just bet a lot once in awhile like 8 bucks
only time i lose is when someone triples up or gets super lukcy... Usually i'll win or lose HuGE POTS.
I am playing omaha and I have 2 pair K 10 the other guy has K 10 as well....
He raised a ton and I reraised m ywhole stack
he actually called in omaha.. and I won on the river with straight.
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| | | 11 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 3802719
Thu, Oct 19, 2006, 18:53
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One of the advantages of making big preflop raises...once people call they are unwilling to give up the pot. Once they commit a lot of money less likely to fold.
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| | | 12 | Deadeye
ID: 45929912
Fri, Oct 20, 2006, 09:17
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So I lost about 100 with trip 10's on the flop when the guy rivered his straight.. I jsut can't seem to win the big hands.
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| | | 13 | Deadeye
ID: 45929912
Fri, Oct 20, 2006, 09:25
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oh ya i also lost 30 on a hand where i didn't see a flush and I had the nuts on the turn... Ugh. dont play when you are tired.
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| | | 14 | Seattle Zen
ID: 46315247
Tue, Oct 24, 2006, 02:36
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Does anyone use No-Limit software? I'm currently reading Positively Fifth Street and the author uses Wilson Turbo. Anyone have any experience?
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| | | 15 | KM
ID: 319311512
Tue, Oct 24, 2006, 02:52
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I only use Pokertracker and Poker Hud to display stats about the players I'm at the table with. I've never used a sim, which is what that looks like. I'm skeptical of anything that pretends to let you compete against a program that acts like a real player. You'll encounter almost robotic multitablers that can be smelled a mile away, but most players really can't be simulated IMO. Maybe it's a good intro for a beginner that has never seen a maniac, or a TAG, or LAG, or calling station. But beyond that, I'd think table experience with real humans is basically unprogrammable.
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| | | 16 | ChicagoTRS
Leader
ID: 566152116
Wed, Oct 25, 2006, 13:51
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ahhhhh it is nice to get paid...was scared I would not see my money after they locked my account...
rfs...may be using your referral...will let you know...
first gotta figure out how to get my bankroll deposited...
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| | | 17 | poker pro
ID: 257152223
Wed, Oct 25, 2006, 23:06
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Which one of those listed sites have the bigger low limit fishes
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| | | 18 | R9
ID: 99392020
Thu, Oct 26, 2006, 01:08
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Nice to know you got paid TRS. I've heard a few more stories about Party that will never have me playing there again. True or not, they just gave up too quickly for my liking anyway.
Pacific has become a ghost town on anything higher then .50/1$ NL, so I'll be moving, probably to FullTilt to bonus whore that 1000$ offer. Will take a while I know, but I play enough to make it worthwhile...
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| | | 19 | wiggs
Donor
ID: 04991311
Thu, Oct 26, 2006, 09:05
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Bodog poker help?
I won a tourney last night that paid out in tourney credits, but when I sign up for a tourney it makes me use my real money, is there something I am missing? Do I need to use that money for only certain tourneys? Please help.
Thanks
wiggs
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| | | 20 | Deadeye
ID: 45929912
Thu, Oct 26, 2006, 09:28
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on absolute can you take out your money then just redeposit it to get all these bonuses they offer???
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| | | 21 | poker pro
ID: 257152223
Thu, Oct 26, 2006, 19:23
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Which of the sites that still let us players play has smaller rooms like 5 or 6 peop[le max?Also does any of the sites have more fishes in lower limit rooms? Thanks
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| | | 22 | KM
ID: 359462113
Thu, Oct 26, 2006, 19:29
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Stars and FT are now the two dominant sites for Americans. Both have plenty of 6 max, and plenty of fish.
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| | | 23 | ChicagoTRS
Leader
ID: 566152116
Fri, Oct 27, 2006, 11:41
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Got to play a small live 9 player tournament last night...pretty fun...took it down. Loved getting heads up with the big mouth of the table...he probably had 2-1 chip lead...he had no clue about heads up play...I won 7 hands in a row to take it all.
Final hand I am in dealer position with A9c...he opens with a raise...I call...flop...club club club...nut flush :-)...check check...turn he goes all-in...lol call...end.
I did not showdown one hand until we were four handed and I eliminated the 4th and 3rd place players...on all-in preflops...A2 vs KJ...TT vs KQ...only other hand I showed all night was the final hand.
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| | | 24 | biliruben
ID: 535193010
Fri, Oct 27, 2006, 11:55
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It's great to run into heads-up novices.
I sat next to a kid Sunday, very conservative, and I got the cards to stay conservative too through the whole tourney (a rarity for me). He drew the seat next to me at the final table as well, and we ended up 1 and 2, about even stacked.
I almost felt guilty running over him, as he folded his small blinds or caved to my min raises over and over again. I almost felt like shaking him: "Dude, don't you know I'm going to call and sometimes raise with 5-2o in this situation!"
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| | | 25 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 249542719
Fri, Oct 27, 2006, 23:04
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rockafellerskank - used your referral link...working on depositing...but once I get deposited I should work through the requirement pretty quick.
...such a pain in the ass trying to deposit...none of the option let me deposit enough...how do you move 10K in one fell swoop...
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| | | 26 | rockafellerskank
ID: 49136120
Fri, Oct 27, 2006, 23:12
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Cool. They are a good site. Rake stats run smoothly and they answer e-mails fast. I'll let you know when the referal hits so I can send you half.
I've never moved more than $1k (in), but I'll bet if you e-mail them they will make special plans for you.
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| | | 27 | Deadeye
ID: 45929912
Mon, Oct 30, 2006, 09:33
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lost my whole stack on one hand of 800 dollars,
I had been killing this table and bluffing bluffing, playing weak cards and hitting and the guy behind me was getting smoked by trying to bluff me out....
Well i get KK i bet like 10.. he raises me 30.. I reraise him to 100.. he reraises me to 300... So now i know he's probably got something good but not as good as me since i know that he's been trying to bluff me the whole time.. I go all in and he calls with JJ
of course he hits trips and i lose the pot of 800... So pissed...
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| | | 28 | Deadeye
ID: 45929912
Mon, Oct 30, 2006, 09:38
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oh ya just to let you know how good i had been doing i called an all in with ace high and took the pot fromn another guy at the table becuse i could tell he was bluffing.. all that heads up pays off. but this guy then doubled up his 400 on some other guy when he hit his 10 8 straigth vs AA. so he had gotten to abut 740 and i had 800... But why does this bad luck always happen to me?
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| | | 29 | rockafellerskank
ID: 49136120
Mon, Oct 30, 2006, 09:50
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Gawd, I wish you'd play at my table more often.
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| | | 30 | Deadeye
ID: 45929912
Mon, Oct 30, 2006, 11:41
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What was wrong on the way i played???
I went from 200 to about 800 in about 3 hours and then i lsot it all to some lucky guy where i was hugely favored?
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| | | 31 | rockafellerskank
ID: 180352016
Mon, Oct 30, 2006, 12:38
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You play a Loose AGressive style. By definition you ARE going to get called because your pattern is to bet, bet, bet. So, why be surpised when you get called down w/ JJ v KK. you ASKED for it based on your previous play history. you WILL lose that match up 20% of the time. You are no more or less lucky that anyone else.
Think of it this way. You walk onto a playground and "dare" each kid to punch you in the mouth. You successfully duck and counter punch numerous foes. Sooner or later are you surpirsed one guy connects and knock out your teeth?
I am not saying you are playing "wrong" as there are many styles. I am saying I love playing LAGs for the very reason that the homerun is well worth it in the long run.
When you sent from 200 to 800, weren't you the underdog sometimnes? Don't you think that some of thse guys were felted and went home complaining about how you were "lucky"?
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| | | 32 | R9
ID: 99392020
Mon, Oct 30, 2006, 12:39
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I don't know where you went wrong, but if you're constantly going broke then clearly you are doing something wrong. Without being there to see your play, your description will be biased and unusable to determine your flaws. But nobody is so unlucky to always lose his stack to luck. We have all had our higher pair beaten by a lower one, or been one-outed, or lost with a set/straight/two pair to a rivered flush 3 or 4 times in a row... bad luck hits us all. It stacks us sometimes, but we come out ahead other times.
My best advice, that I took myself from a pro in vegas and then passed on to both my friend and father (who are now both winning players as well) would be to read (with an open mind and willingness to change) The Psychology of Poker.
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| | | 33 | Deadeye
ID: 45929912
Mon, Oct 30, 2006, 13:54
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who writes that book? I have been getting better to extract people's money...
and not calling reraises etc... i'll lose maybe 10 a hand but when i have something like pair high i can bet a little on the river and epople will call with anything.. A lot of times i'll bet on the flop and get a call but i'll have say top pair or middle pair.. the guys seem to call
and when icheck on the turn they almost always decide that i am bluffing and bet on the river with nothing and i seem to win those about 80 percent of the time. However, when they bet a lot on the turn i usually fold. if i feel they are bluffing i'll call and see what they do on the river. it worked well...
it just hurt when i lost the BIG hand... most of my all ins were when i had the nuts.. and they would either go all in on me b/c they thought i was bluffing and had liek top pair... Rarely did i go all in until the river so very few chases.
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| | | 34 | Deadeye
ID: 45929912
Mon, Oct 30, 2006, 13:55
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hey rfs remember that time i had the royal flush against you.. that was fun.
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| | | 35 | R9
ID: 99392020
Mon, Oct 30, 2006, 14:06
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A couple points:
1) Are you a long term winner or loser? (Are you up or down?)
2) You play a Loose-Agressive style. I've somewhat adopted that style as well, but the key is that I still think like a Tight-Agressive player. That book helped me get in that mindset, and even though I've opened up my game alot the last few months, I still think like a TAG. Right now it sounds like you play and THINK like a LAG, which for almost everyone is a losing proposition.
The book is from Alan Schoonmaker. Amazon link. That and pokertracker are the best 60$ you can spend on poker.
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| | | 36 | weykool
ID: 449372718
Mon, Oct 30, 2006, 14:20
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I think 1 point RFS is trying to make is you need to be aware of your table perception just as much as you are aware of what kind of players you are playing against.
Getting caught bluffing is not always a bad thing...it means you will get called more often.
No matter what style you use the key is you need to change it up....or you will get killed.
If you are a TAG and never change......when you get a hand everyone else will fold unless they have the nuts and the blinds will eat you up.
Bad beats happen.
Getting someone with JJ to go all in when you have KK is one of the perks of being a loose aggressive.
80-20 sounds like I cant get enough of my money in to me.
I will take those odds all day long.
The only problem I see with how you played this hand was he might have had AA with all the raising and reraising he did.
AA or JJ....in either case you lose.
Did you consider he might have AA?
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| | | 37 | Deadeye
ID: 45929912
Mon, Oct 30, 2006, 14:22
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I am up and down all the time! Most of my profits came from cd poker where you caould play Heads up for cash and I'd start with 50 and end up with sometimes a 1000 dollars at the end of the night.
But table games I am down... I go through huge amounts of winning always at the beginning and as time goes on i think i start getting cocky or something, but i'll always fall back down. ..
For instance,
I started wtih 100 abouot 3 weeks ago and in 2 days i was up to about 1000. Then in one night bam i am back down to 0... Every time.. I was up to 800 and then back down to 0... Luckily my rake keeps abotu even with the money i put in...
I have started a new strategy that i thought would help me and that was to deposit each day i play and cash out after that day, but I haven't found a site that will do that... So i am goign to sign up for full tilt and have 2 sites... and I will rotate every few days so that i can cash out...
Oh i have a story that you are goign to find funny. So I am in this 48 person tourney right and I chip leader all the way through.. People keep calling all of my bets with awful hands and i am down to the final table.. and I am talking a TON of trash... (only b/c people are pissed at me etc..) and then this guy bets 3 times the blind and i say "wow that's a huge bet, so huge that i'll call these awful cards where i may bust you" and i have 4 5 spades, he has 10 7 of diamonds (not knowing until he calls my all in). So the flop is 4c 4d 9h. A rainbow. I immediate say "watch this guy fold", he's second to me in chips. He then reraises me and i go all in.. and he calls the bet... unreal... and he catches the back door straight... it was incredible... The next hand i get AA and i bet the remaining of my chips.. The same guy calls with j 10 and he gets a full house... and I am out of the tourney to the final 6 people just like that.. Luckily it was only 5 dolalr tourney buy in.. .but i found it increidble...
It was hilarious, because after i busted this one guy who was pretty chatty with me, he was rooting for me to win and i told him i'd give him 1/3 of what i win when i win this thing...So i gave him a big 3.50... lol
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| | | 38 | rockafellerskank
ID: 180352016
Mon, Oct 30, 2006, 14:28
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hey rfs remember that time i had the royal flush against you.. that was fun.
Yep. Remember the time I nearly stacked you for $200 +/-? That was fun too.
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| | | 39 | Deadeye
ID: 45929912
Mon, Oct 30, 2006, 14:29
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Weykool,
I thougth about him having AA but this guy was reraising me every hand and i would bust him.. My initial bet was pretty weak b/c i was goign to slow play them. i think ibet my usual 4 5 cards like 3 times the blind.. All my bets are the same. sometimes if i have something really good i'll bet A TON if everyone is calling me. for instance i'll bet 10 dollars sometimes or abotu 10 to 20 times the big blind.. people with ak etc call. sometimes people go all in.
so i limped in and he reraised me... and dont' forget he had been reraising me all the 15 minutes he was there for, every hand he decided to play.. cost him a lot when i called a few of his blfufs. So i thougth about it.. but just the way i play i tend to find out that most people raising me don't have great hands... most slow play the AA on me and let me bet at them... that's how i doubled up initially from 400 to 800. i had trip 33 and caught trips and this guy slow played aces down to the river then went all in... And i was SCARED but i called thinknng I had been beat but nope... Anyway, I diddn't think he had them.
The flop was:
j A A.
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| | | 40 | beastiemiked
ID: 36428317
Mon, Oct 30, 2006, 14:29
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Alright, I need some motivation to play so I'm getting ready to start my 3000 SNG's in 30 days challenge. I've got a blog over on blogspot that will cover the details of everything. Will post a link when it's ready.
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| | | 41 | Deadeye
ID: 45929912
Mon, Oct 30, 2006, 14:29
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Yes i remember.. I don't play at your table anymore.
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| | | 42 | Deadeye
ID: 45929912
Mon, Oct 30, 2006, 14:33
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I also almost always slow play my kk, qq,jj, 10 10, 9 9
etc...
because when i hit those i always make a ton of money on them...
slowplayed my 10 10 for 40 last night and the flop was 10 6 8
turn was 6
the guy had 10 6... took him big time. i told him i had the nuts and he went all in on me.
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| | | 43 | Deadeye
ID: 45929912
Mon, Oct 30, 2006, 14:35
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i then lost 50 with AQ to AA when the flop was
AQ 9 and a flush draw.. first hand at this table.. he bet 3 and i go all in thinking he was on flush draw... or AK..
bam... not too bright
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| | | 44 | Deadeye
ID: 45929912
Mon, Oct 30, 2006, 14:35
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oh he had the AA.
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| | | 45 | R9
ID: 99392020
Mon, Oct 30, 2006, 16:51
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Nice bmd. 3000 in 30 days! 100 per day? That seems crazy... how many will you play at a time? 4?
Deadeye, the reason I asked if you were up or down; Many losing players lose track of their losses and remember their big wins more then their losses. In the end, they assume they are up overall when they are down, or think they're only down a bit when they are really down big. You need to keep track of how you are doing, either via a spreadsheet or just a piece of paper.
Track buyins and cashouts religiously. Over time, no matter how lucky/unlucky you get, the #'s speak for themselves. You're either a winning player and can focus on ways to improve your earnings, or you're a losing player and need to find out what is wrong. Not knowing one way or the other just seems reckless to me.
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| | | 46 | KnicksFan
Donor
ID: 030815418
Mon, Oct 30, 2006, 16:54
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deadeye, do you ever play limit?
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| | | 47 | beastiemiked
ID: 36428317
Mon, Oct 30, 2006, 17:21
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R9, I'll be playing at least 8 at a time and most likely 9-10(really would like to get a 3rd monitor to get up to 12). Will be playing mostly 60's, a few 36's when the 60's are slow and 119's mixed in when they go off.
I'm leaving for Hawaii on the 28th and then off to Australia in the middle of December for 3 months. I figured I needed to get hours in this month. Thank you Party Poker for funding my trip!
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| | | 48 | ChicagoTRS
Leader
ID: 566152116
Mon, Oct 30, 2006, 18:00
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deadeye...if you are going to play a LAG game...you should think about changing gears...play LAG...if you get up $$$...tighten up...change your style back and forth...confuses people...if you are always losing your stack in the end...think about quitting when you get up a couple buyins or moving tables and banking some of the profits...
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| | | 49 | Deadeye
ID: 45929912
Mon, Oct 30, 2006, 18:34
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Yes.. I am going to do a few sites so that each time i cash out at the end of session. whether it's an hour or 5 hours.. My frist session i am usually ahead big.. I started over at 200 yesterday. in one hour i am up to 250.. I wanted to cash out but couldn't so the more sites i play the more i can concentrate on cashign out after each session whether i am down or up!! andn I'll moveon to the next site...
I have played limit before but it's too boring for me. i played razz before...
I think I like H.O.R.S.E tourney's the best..
i was down about 12k.. now i am down more like 6 k thanks to HU and tourneys.
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| | | 50 | rockafellerskank
ID: 49136120
Mon, Oct 30, 2006, 20:29
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ChicagoTRS - What is your screen name on AP?
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| | | 51 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 249542719
Mon, Oct 30, 2006, 22:42
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I am on Fulltilt but not yet funded...I am going to get a new bank account next Monday...seems Chase has a lot of stuff blocked already.
My screen name is MactanTRS
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| | | 52 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 249542719
Mon, Oct 30, 2006, 22:47
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Deadeye...I am not suggesting you cash out every time you win a couple hundred...instead learn some self control and build a bankroll...
What I am suggesting is when you start at a table with $100 and then get up to $300 get off that table and then go sit at another table with $100 again. If you want to become a good player you will build enough money online so you can sit and lose a couple buyins and not be broke. I deally if you want to play at the $100 buy-in NL level you should have at least 2K in your account. You should not be playing with your entire bankroll every time you sit down.
I played for 3 years on my first and only deposit. ...now I kind of wish I made more deposits because I am having a hell of a time moving money into a new site but that is besides the point.
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| | | 53 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 249542719
Mon, Oct 30, 2006, 22:54
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BTW there is nothing wrong with playing a loose aggressive game if you can get good at it...probably the toughest type game to play but many of the best players in the world play that style. It also comes with a ton of variance...you will win big and lose big...so that is exactly why you need a bankroll that can withstand some hits.
If you are playing LAG it is often good to move tables often because when players figure you out they are going to sit back and wait to trap you...personally I love playing against a truly LAG player but I watch other online players struggle with this type player.
Personally I can play this style well if I am in the right frame of mind and against the right opponents but typically I prefer to be on the other side of trapping this type player. I like to play a lower variance game.
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| | | 54 | Sludge
ID: 45541422
Tue, Oct 31, 2006, 08:04
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Sometimes the Poker Gods are smiling on you.
Playing a micro limit one-table SNG last night. 2nd or 3rd hand and I get dealt KQh in the BB. Guy in 4th position raises it to 120 (blinds are 10/20 at this point, obviously). I decide to gamble and hope to hit a big flop (yes, I know the dangers of AK or AQ in my spot). Only me and him in the hand at this point. Flop comes out with two hearts, all below T. I check and he makes a bet of 40! Immediate call. Turn comes out A, but a blank for me. I check again, and he bets 60 this time! Immediate call. River misses me, I check and he bets $80. I fold. He shows AA. I make the sarcastic comment, "Way to protect your rockets, I almost drew a flush against you." He replies with, "Almost don't count." Several others make horseshoes, hand grenades, and "nuklear" explosions comments. He yuks it up, and I advise him to keep throwing out post oaks with his bullets.
Fast forward to three-handed play 50/100. I'm second stack, about 2k below big stack which is the guy with the rockets from earlier. I'm on the button, he's BB. I get 69os and limp. He raises the minimum to 200, and I immediately call as does the SB. Flop comes 646. SB checks, and BB comes out with a 400 bet, 200 below the pot. I call, and SB folds. Turn comes 4. This time he bets 1000, and I go all-in figuring if he has a better 6 (or 44, which I didn't really consider) then he's getting my chips anyway. He immediately calls. AA. Proceeds to start calling me a loser. I tell him that people have made fortunes calling post oaks with rags. He keeps calling me a loser. Three hands later, I get QQ on the button, raise it to 800 and he goes all in on me with A9os. I dodge the bullet, knock him out, and give him lesson #2 about overvaluing AXos.
Sweet.
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| | | 55 | Deadeye
ID: 45929912
Tue, Oct 31, 2006, 09:08
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Chicago that's some good advice...
I got my 200 up to about 390 last nigth in about an hour but then kept playing and i went back down to 220 before i quit. still up 20 but i was getting wreckless again...
I pretty much doubled up on all 4 of my tables... I usually try to play 2 tables with my entire br. But i am going to 4 tables to lower stakes...
I toook one guy who bluffed me and I had 6 7
and the board looked like this... 3 k q q 7
i bet like 2... he raised 3, i called(been playing and cursing at me the whoel time) calling all my bets and reraising. I checked and he checked then i bet 10 and he called on the turn.. and went all in on the river and i hit my 7 and he had A 8... lol. I realize now that i have to tighten up a lot when i am up a ton at a table.
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| | | 56 | Deadeye
ID: 45929912
Tue, Oct 31, 2006, 09:13
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couple of my big losses was when i was way ahead with 2 pair and i get called my all in on th eturn and hit his open ended straight. And i lost 100 with 2 bad beats in a row. I lost trips A 3 when the guy called a huge bet on the river and got A-5 flush. Gut shot. and then the next hand I flopped 2 pair with Q 10 and he flopped trips with 3's and went all in... So that's how i lost about 100.
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| | | 57 | Farn
Leader
ID: 451044109
Wed, Nov 01, 2006, 16:38
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have to say i'm a bit disappointed that they only showed the No Limit portion of the HORSE tourney from the WSOP. We see enough no limit. Show the other games for a change.
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| | | 58 | KM
ID: 319311512
Wed, Nov 01, 2006, 17:07
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Agreed. Although, they showed a PLO final table which I found hard to get into. I love PLO, but with a million outs every street it gets disorienting watching the hand unfold. NL is definitely more TV friendly. Games like Stud, Razz, and LHE are much more mechanical. But, all you have to do is look at # of players at each game on Stars or FT, and it seems like NL IS the only poker game.
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| | | 59 | beastiemiked
ID: 36428317
Wed, Nov 01, 2006, 18:55
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Brag Post!
300 SNG's into my challenge and I'm running extremely hot. Started mixing in more 119's and a few 236's because the competition is extremely weaker than it should be at these levels. Here's the breakdown
$36 - 16 played (12.3)ROI $(71.10) won
$60 - 193 played 26.5 ROI $3072.00 won
$119 - 83 played 20.3 ROI $2003.00 won
$236 - 8 played 46.8 ROI $884.00 won
Total $5888 not including rakeback.
I think I officially just jinxed myself.
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| | | 60 | KM
ID: 319311512
Wed, Nov 01, 2006, 19:48
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Maybe I need to play Donkaments
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| | | 61 | wiggs
Donor
ID: 04991311
Wed, Nov 01, 2006, 19:49
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ROI?
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| | | 62 | rockafellerskank
ID: 49136120
Wed, Nov 01, 2006, 19:55
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I think they need to be re-named Donk-N-Go's
Looking forward to the blog, bmd. GL!
R9 - thanks for the book link. I ordered a copy.
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| | | 63 | KM
ID: 319311512
Wed, Nov 01, 2006, 20:00
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ROI = return on ivestment
(Won - Buyin)/(Buyin). BMD didn't include %'s, but that's what those are.
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| | | 64 | KM
ID: 319311512
Wed, Nov 01, 2006, 20:05
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BMD, are these single or multi-table SnG's?
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| | | 65 | R9
ID: 99392020
Wed, Nov 01, 2006, 20:07
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Are you just playing tight/agressive bmd? I didn't know SNG's could be so lucrative, though my only experience at trying them was the 20+2 and 30+3's on Pokerstars about a year ago. I was a weaker player, and those games were TIGHT.
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| | | 66 | beastiemiked
ID: 36428317
Wed, Nov 01, 2006, 20:10
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Total ROI so far is at about 25%. Totally not sustainable(anything over 10% would be awesome).
Here's the graph so far.
Plan on messing with the blog stuff tomorrow.
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| | | 67 | beastiemiked
ID: 36428317
Thu, Nov 02, 2006, 17:26
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Here's the link to my blog.
My blog
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| | | 68 | pokerpro
ID: 181041219
Sat, Nov 04, 2006, 04:49
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Are those sites listed the only ones that let us players play?
Thanks
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| | | 69 | KM
ID: 201049322
Sat, Nov 04, 2006, 12:19
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http://www.pokersitescout.com/
Scroll down that page and you will see all sites, with an X next to those that do not allow US players.
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| | | 70 | swami
ID: 397233121
Sat, Nov 04, 2006, 17:55
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What is my move here. We are late in the $3.30 re-buy @ Stars. I had just lucked up and tripled up from a short stack w/QJ vs TT and another caller. Additionally I had stolen the blinds uncalled on the hand prior to this one. I don't have much of a read on this guy yet.
*********** # 210 **************
PokerStars Game #6894155749: Tournament #34619414, $3.00+$0.30 Hold'em
No Limit - Level XIII (1000/2000) - 2006/11/04 - 17:40:44 (ET)
Table '34619414 74' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: azletexas (60685 in chips)
Seat 2: Shinebox04 (259795 in chips)
Seat 3: dmonley (63747 in chips)
Seat 4: ShagginWagon (42350 in chips)
Seat 5: wptnutsonly (146882 in chips)
Seat 6: DatDfrunchen (28120 in chips)
Seat 7: C67S (62621 in chips)
Seat 8: DaSwam (35222 in chips)
Seat 9: Dhex1973 (35748 in chips)
azletexas: posts the ante 100
Shinebox04: posts the ante 100
dmonley: posts the ante 100
ShagginWagon: posts the ante 100
wptnutsonly: posts the ante 100
DatDfrunchen: posts the ante 100
C67S: posts the ante 100
DaSwam: posts the ante 100
Dhex1973: posts the ante 100
dmonley: posts small blind 1000
ShagginWagon: posts big blind 2000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DaSwam [Qh Ac]
wptnutsonly: folds
DatDfrunchen: folds
C67S: folds
DaSwam: raises 4000 to 6000
Dhex1973: folds
azletexas: folds
Shinebox04: folds
dmonley: calls 5000
ShagginWagon: folds
*** FLOP *** [Tc 5c 8c]
dmonley: bets 57647 and is all-in
DaSwam:
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| | | 71 | beastiemiked
ID: 36428317
Sat, Nov 04, 2006, 18:14
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DaSwam: Calls
You've got nut flush draw and there's a good chance that you have 6 more outs as well. If you stack was bigger folding would be ok but there's way too much middle for you to fold with you current stack.
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| | | 72 | R9
ID: 99392020
Sun, Nov 05, 2006, 07:04
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I agree. His all-in is probably protecting an A10 or PP like JJ or QQ. Most people would re-raise QQ though preflop, so that seems less likely. He may have a club with a PP, but its no good. Worst case, he has QQ or (with a club). Best case, he's just being ultra-agressive with anything and hoping you don't have a club to call with.
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| | | 73 | Farn
Leader
ID: 451044109
Sun, Nov 05, 2006, 10:39
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agreed. can't see a reason to fold this unless you had a great read on him, which you didn't. Obviously your club is good and like BM said you probably have 2 overs as well. If he slowed played KK then tip your cap. Even though you still have a fair shot.
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| | | 74 | swami
ID: 397233121
Sun, Nov 05, 2006, 12:59
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I called. He had made a VERY loose call from the SB w/6c4c. I figured the T hit him or he had a striaght or flush draw and thought the clubs would scare me. Had I been right I would have won as the A came in on the turn, but no club on the river, and I was out.
Thanks for the comments. I try not to be results oriented, but after it didn't come in I was doubting my move.
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ID: 319311512
Sun, Nov 05, 2006, 14:29
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Just look at your pot odds, then put him on a range.
13K in the pot, 29K (your stack) more to call. So, you are betting 29K to win 42K. You need about a 40% chance to win here. You know your flush is ~33% to win, depending on how many clubs he has. In tournament play, sometime all people are looking for is marginally bad races, otherwise they get blinded off or get stuck in a much worse race. If either your ace or queen is live, you're ~40-45% to win. So, it's probably a no brainer coin flip for a short stack in a tourny. I avoid a situation like this in a cash game, I can get my money in without coin flipping.
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| | | 77 | beastiemiked
ID: 36428317
Sun, Nov 05, 2006, 18:37
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Top 10 in chips in the Stars Million. The deck has been hitting me hard. I plan on donking off all my chips before the money hits.
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| | | 78 | DE
ID: 45929912
Mon, Nov 06, 2006, 10:04
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how do you play the nuts on the flop when you know the guy has an overpair?
I had rainbow straight.. but i only extracted 30 of his dollars before he folded.
I had 3 5
flop was 2 4 6
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| | | 79 | swami
ID: 397233121
Mon, Nov 06, 2006, 17:38
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Are you in position or out of position? What did your stack look like and what did his stack look like? What was your image at the table and what was his? Did you limp in or call a raise?
Just blindly thinking, from OOP I bet into him about 1/2 - 2/3 of the pot. He probably comes over the top and I evaluate the stack sizes from there. If I'm in position I re-raise his bet depending on stack sizes and image. His reactions from those spots dictate my next move.
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| | | 80 | DE
ID: 45929912
Mon, Nov 06, 2006, 18:55
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I have been playing for about 10 minutes...
I had gone all in with nut flush draw and had won....
I had been bluffed by the guy acting to my right and he stole about 30 dollars on a bluff.
I had then managed to get all of 70 of his dollars as he had betted huge with AJ and the flop was 9 J 5 and he betted huge again like 8 bucks and i called...
turn was Q
he bet big again and i called...
River was another 9. No flush on the board..
he checked and I went all in and took all of his cash....
I had been betting every hand aggressively...
So 2 guys behind me I am the dealer this guy bets 4 dollars before the flop and I call and everyone else is folded... My image was pretty loose and aggressive, kind of crazy.. As I had gone all in several times before and not getting called. And I had bluffed 2 times which lost me about 10 each time...
I had started with 100 and I was up to 150
He had abotu 130 dollars in his stack.
I reraised him 2times on the flop before he folded. each time the minimum riase.
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| | | 81 | R9
ID: 99392020
Mon, Nov 06, 2006, 20:02
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Sometimes you don't get anything when you have the nuts, simply because your opponent has absolutely nothing. If he raises preflop with AKs, and you call with say, 55, and the flop comes 582 rainbow (none of his suit), you may get a continuation bet out of him, but he's gotta fold to a re-raise. If you just call, he still folds if the turn or river doesn't bring him an A or K.
To get paid, often times two things are required: You have to have a hand, and your opponent needs to be holding something he thinks is best.
- If the player is a sucker, that may be top pair with a weak kicker, or even 2nd pair with a top kicker.
- If the player is tight-agressive, that probably at least required top pair/top kicker.
But nobody, except for the rare but always juicy extreme idiot suckers/maniacs, will pay you off with nothing. So don't look at a hand where you had the nuts, "but i only extracted 30 of his dollars" as a failure. Its quite possible he had nothing but A-high, and your loose/maniac image actually got you a bit more dollars than you would have.
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| | | 82 | DE
ID: 29161022
Mon, Nov 06, 2006, 21:16
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he told me he folded AA.
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| | | 83 | swami
ID: 397233121
Mon, Nov 06, 2006, 21:23
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IMO the constant min re-raise gives too much away. If you had that loose of an image you should have been able to stack him on the flop if he really had AA. I go with my push on the flop and he'll come over the top.
I don't think he had AA.
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| | | 84 | R9
ID: 99392020
Mon, Nov 06, 2006, 21:57
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He folded AA on a 246 flop to a maniac heads up? Don't think so. Unless he's the rock of all rocks. What then, will he play? Sets and up? Ha!
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| | | 85 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 249542719
Mon, Nov 06, 2006, 23:32
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noone folds an overpair headsup against a loose player...loose is kind of relative headsup as it is probably proper to play somewhat maniacal...
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| | | 86 | swami
ID: 397233121
Wed, Nov 08, 2006, 00:11
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Thoughts on the right play here. My only read on this guy was he wasn't very good. He flopped two pair on a KJ9h board (J9) and simply called a 2/3 PSB along with another caller. Turn was 6h and river bricked, but he paid off a PSB ($1.65) to the second caller. Then this hand came up:
PokerStars Game #6937805666: Hold'em No Limit ($0.02/$0.05) - 2006/11/08 - 00:03:02 (ET)
Table 'May' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: psps7777 ($1.93 in chips)
Seat 2: stickfrog74 ($6.27 in chips)
Seat 3: BurnyTater ($18.34 in chips)
Seat 4: lchmeb ($9.95 in chips)
Seat 5: flamadis ($5.34 in chips)
Seat 7: DaSwam ($6.73 in chips)
Seat 8: Lesker ($5.45 in chips)
Seat 9: HOMEP1 ($9.13 in chips)
stickfrog74: posts small blind $0.02
BurnyTater: posts big blind $0.05
VICHY99: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DaSwam [Td Ah]
lchmeb: folds
flamadis: folds
DaSwam: calls $0.05
Lesker: calls $0.05
HOMEP1: folds
psps7777: folds
stickfrog74: folds
BurnyTater: checks
*** FLOP *** [Qh Kd Kh]
BurnyTater: checks
DaSwam: checks
Lesker: checks
*** TURN *** [Qh Kd Kh] [9d]
BurnyTater: checks
DaSwam: checks
Lesker: checks
*** RIVER *** [Qh Kd Kh 9d] [Jc]
BurnyTater: checks
DaSwam: bets $0.15
Lesker: raises $2.55 to $2.70
BurnyTater: folds
DaSwam: ????
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| | | 87 | biliruben
ID: 535193010
Wed, Nov 08, 2006, 01:22
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Well...
He's either bluffing, caught the idiot's straight, slow-played the Kx and has a boat or it's a chop.
I would call, but you may be beat.
You should have raised pre-flop to give you a better read. Then you should have taken a poke at the flop or the turn.
Now it's hard to narrow down, because you haven't forced him to provide any information.
I'd say you are more than a 50% favorite, but given that you asked, KJ is a good possibility.
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| | | 88 | swami
ID: 397233121
Wed, Nov 08, 2006, 01:28
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I should have posted this. I folded so I have no idea what he held. Hindsight being 20/20, I should have called. He donked off 2 buyins with some horrible play and really poor calls on the river when he was obviously beat.
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| | | 89 | Sludge
ID: 45541422
Wed, Nov 08, 2006, 08:43
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Regardless of what he donked off, you don't call a bet like that on the river in a nothing pot (limped) without holding something close to the nuts. You were far from that.
If he thinks he's playing power poker by betting $2.70 into a 32 cent pot on the river, let him keep thinking that. In the long run it's a better play.
Assuming he was (semi-) bluffing, if you let him keep thinking he can buy pots like that, then he'll keep putting that play on you. If you call him down, he'll be less likely to put that play on you again since if he's paying a modicum of attention, he'll remember that you were willing to call the idiotic bet once before.
If however, he's got you beat, then it's an additional $2.70 for you to gather the following information: He's only going to do that with a really good hand. (His later play may change that thinking, but how long will you have to observe his play for you to change your mind and adjust your play accordingly?) Quite frankly, at micro tables, a huge bet on the river with the nuts isn't necessarily a bad play because you'd be surprised at how often you get callers. I will occasionally announce that I have AA or KK when I get it before going all-in pre-flop. You would be amazed at the callers I get.
You wait until you're SURE you have him beat instead of the hand you posted where you have no clue. Given the propensity of players at these micro tables to constantly slow play big pairs, and your lack of information gathering, he could have had anything. Your money is better spent when you have better odds.
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| | | 90 | DE
ID: 45929912
Wed, Nov 08, 2006, 14:47
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So this was my last hand where i lost about 150
guy slowed play AA.
I have K8
the flop was K 8 7 rainbow..
He bets 3. I raise him to 10.. He raises me to 30. I go all in. and he calls
K 8 7 10 7
lost.
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| | | 91 | ChicagoTRS
Leader
ID: 566152116
Wed, Nov 08, 2006, 14:50
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Finally got some money into FullTilt...playing the baby tables...need to get more money in...playing .25-.50 NL is not doing it for me...seems too much like play money...tables seem super easy anyway...been watching 5-10 and the play seems a lot worse than I am used to...can't wait to get a few K in there so I can play my limits.
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| | | 92 | DE
ID: 45929912
Wed, Nov 08, 2006, 14:57
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the players really do suck at full tilt. i am going to cash out my 1000 soon and quit it though as soon as my bonus reaches it.
my name there is Seyedaed.
I'll see you tonight i think.
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| | | 93 | KnicksFan
Sustainer
ID: 030815418
Wed, Nov 08, 2006, 17:24
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Watch out!
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| | | 94 | swami
ID: 397233121
Wed, Nov 08, 2006, 20:34
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Since I've been asking for advice, what is the correct play here. I'll post my thoughts later.
PokerStars Game #6947054302: Tournament #35453831, $4.00+$0.40 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2006/11/08 - 20:30:37 (ET)
Table '35453831 14' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: banky7 (2110 in chips)
Seat 2: poker_akin (890 in chips)
Seat 3: pico de (1430 in chips)
Seat 4: DAVIDM64 (1190 in chips)
Seat 5: geordie16 (1470 in chips)
Seat 6: drwldude (1910 in chips)
Seat 7: DaSwam (1500 in chips)
Seat 8: newtonthug (1500 in chips)
Seat 9: arod8084 (1500 in chips)
drwldude: posts small blind 10
DaSwam: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DaSwam [As Ad]
newtonthug: folds
arod8084: folds
banky7: folds
poker_akin: folds
pico de: folds
DAVIDM64: folds
geordie16: folds
drwldude: folds
DaSwam: ???
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| | | 95 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 249542719
Wed, Nov 08, 2006, 20:35
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scoop the blind?
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| | | 96 | swami
ID: 397233121
Wed, Nov 08, 2006, 20:37
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No kdding, this happened on the ring table right after. Think this is a sign I shouldn't play tonight?
PokerStars Game #6947122400: Hold'em No Limit ($0.02/$0.05) - 2006/11/08 - 20:35:27 (ET)
Table 'Campanula' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: tkirksmith ($8.38 in chips)
Seat 2: PeteDaut ($9.63 in chips)
Seat 3: SKOOOOOOT ($3.66 in chips)
Seat 4: Dolamyte67 ($6.56 in chips)
Seat 6: scottwayne ($9.79 in chips)
Seat 7: DaSwam ($10.24 in chips)
Seat 8: [z-zone]Tina ($15.28 in chips)
Seat 9: rac1235 ($5.75 in chips)
rac1235: posts small blind $0.02
tkirksmith: posts big blind $0.05
paspio: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DaSwam [Ad As]
PeteDaut: folds
SKOOOOOOT: folds
Dolamyte67: folds
scottwayne: calls $0.05
DaSwam: raises $0.15 to $0.20
[z-zone]Tina: folds
rac1235: folds
tkirksmith: folds
scottwayne: folds
DaSwam collected $0.17 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $0.17 | Rake $0
Seat 1: tkirksmith (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: PeteDaut folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: SKOOOOOOT folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Dolamyte67 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: scottwayne folded before Flop
Seat 7: DaSwam collected ($0.17)
Seat 8: [z-zone]Tina (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: rac1235 (small blind) folded before Flop
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| | | 97 | swami
ID: 397233121
Wed, Nov 08, 2006, 20:51
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That and punch myself REALLY hard to keep the pain high and the tilt low...
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| | | 98 | DE
ID: 45929912
Fri, Nov 10, 2006, 09:17
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Can someone explain bankroll to me? How much per cash table or limits based on a bankroll per 1000?
Thanks
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| | | 99 | biliruben
ID: 535193010
Fri, Nov 10, 2006, 09:20
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Internet poker survey, which is an attempt to gather some empirical data on the effect of the Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act.
Help him out.
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| | | 100 | ChicagoTRS
Leader
ID: 566152116
Fri, Nov 10, 2006, 10:30
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DE...the concept of bankroll...To answer your question first with a 1K bankroll...if you are a winning player you should probably play .25-.50 NL or 1-2 Limit. If you are a losing player it does not really matter what your bankroll is as you will eventually lose it :-)
The idea behind a bankroll is to have enough money available so that you can withstand normal losing streaks. Even the best players lose sometimes and sometimes you lose for days at a time. You want enough money availabe so you can lose and then lose some more and not have to redeposit or drop limits.
Bankroll really is variable for each player...if you play particularly conservatively you might get by with a smaller bankroll relative to the limits you play. If you play a very loose high variance game you will need a larger bankroll.
Your ultimate goal should be to deposit...build your bankroll and then never make another deposit...withdraw when you get to certain $ amount back down to your minimum bankroll amount. I played 3 years on my first deposit and never made another. There were times when my bankroll got to uncomfortably low levels where I had to drop limits to be conservative...at those points I ended up readjusting my bankroll higher to protect against those scenarios. It does take some discipline to maintain a bankroll..if you are prone to tilt it might not be wise to keep that amount of money available.
General rule is you should have 300-500 big blinds available in Limit...and ~20-30 max buyins for NL.
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| | | 101 | DE
ID: 45929912
Fri, Nov 10, 2006, 12:12
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that's good... I have been playing .25/.50 tables..I think I'll start with 200 and play lower ones. until i get back to 1000.
I lost a huge 300 dollar hand yesterday...
I had Qh 10s, the guy raised 9 bucks and 2 peopel called... it was a 1/2 no limit game. the flop was
Qc 10c 3d.. The guy who bet bets 50 and I go all in with 150.. This total crazy maniac who had been breaking me all night with awful cards and getting lucky.. too about 300 when i had trips and he had some crappy flush draw on the flop called my all in with 300 and caught...
Well he did the same exact thing this time. he calls my all in with a 3c 7c and catches the freaking club on the turn to take us both.. The original guy only had AK and called my all in...
lost about 500 bucks in 20 minutes all due to this maniac who hit every call just like that. It was ridiculous. I was playing him HU before the table got full that pissed me off because i was up from 200 to 500 in about 10 minutes. As i would total get the guy to go all in with me with sub par cards.. It was crazy.. he bets 6 i raise to 30 with AQ.. He goes all in with A 2 and i call (HU) doubled up my money just like that.. Then i took another 100 from him when he bet 20 and I called and i hit 2 pair and goes all in wtih nothing...
But then i lose it all on 2 horrible calls that he got lucky on both times.. I realize that my game is the higher limits because no one seems to go all in unless they have the nuts on the lower limit games and it's really annoying.
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| | | 102 | wiggs
Donor
ID: 04991311
Fri, Nov 10, 2006, 12:44
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sometimes the cards just run cold, the last 2 days I have lost close to 700 dollars between cash games and SNGs. I started tracking my money lately and here are some of the beats
AA v 46 hearts flop AH 10S 6C he goes all in, I call, he catches runner runner flush.
AK clubs v 78 clubs flop ace of heart 9 10 of clubs, 7 spades on the turn- gives me a full house, he raised i go all in he calls catches the j of clubs for the straight flush- that was 240 dollars on a cash game
Then there are your simple bad beats, top 2 pair vs a set
high pocket pair v low pocket pair and they hit the set.
I have pulled all my money out of bodog and am deciding if I want to move to another site or if I just want to take some time. I have won alot of money playing there, but either the cards are really cold or something is fishy there. I have never been on a losing streak like this in my life.
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| | | 103 | DE
ID: 45929912
Fri, Nov 10, 2006, 15:09
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LOL. I was in a 50 dollar tourney of 45 people or something... Last table 6 people left..
I am BIG STACK... I talked some trash and have a HUGE 2 pair on the flop the guy goes all in and catches back door flush...
It's like someone is pulling strings against me.
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| | | 104 | DE
ID: 45929912
Fri, Nov 10, 2006, 15:11
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And yes i complain a lot b/c most times that I am all in is when i have the better hand.. Also, Only time I lose the ALL in's are when they get trips which is rare... Everytime they call I usually end up losing abotu 50% of the time when I have abotu 70 30 odds... Just seems the way it goes with online poker.
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| | | 105 | leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Fri, Nov 10, 2006, 15:27
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Wiggs, I went on a MASSIVE losing streak on bodog as well, and it actually led to me leaving the site. I could not buy a win on a SNG or Cash game, and I seriously couldn't win anything for 2 weeks or so.
I basically gave up internet poker and only play live now. The Bodog streak ticked me off so much that I felt that something fishy had to be going on (probably wasn't anything but bad luck, though). I've just been trying to use up my points now for $T, which is taking a while.
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| | | 106 | DE
ID: 45929912
Fri, Nov 10, 2006, 16:09
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i bet employees rack up tons of money playing on their own gambling site. I bet they make bank and can do whatever they want.. I always have a huge winning streak then a HUGe losing streak and MOST times I am ahead in the hand and that's what pisses me off is all the bad beats.
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| | | 107 | ChicagoTRS
Leader
ID: 566152116
Fri, Nov 10, 2006, 16:55
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Losing streaks are just part of the game...you play enough and you are going to go through dry spells where nothing seems to work and invariably you play worse too because of the bad beats or whatever else got you on the losing streak. I have had my share of losing streaks but I have always found that if I keep playing my game I will turn it around and start winning again.
I really really do not think online poker is fixed...if it is...someone must like me because I have cashed a lot of $$$$$$$$$ and deposited only a little $.
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| | | 108 | R9
ID: 99392020
Fri, Nov 10, 2006, 18:00
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Ditto. If online poker is rigged, they're doing a terrible job. ;)
I always have a huge winning streak then a HUGe losing streak and MOST times I am ahead in the hand and that's what pisses me off is all the bad beats.
No offense, but it doesn't sound like you're learning to cope with your loose-agressive style at all. Until you reign in your inner maniac you'll likely have huge losing streaks for a long time.
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| | | 109 | DE
ID: 45929912
Fri, Nov 10, 2006, 18:01
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how much did you initially deposit?
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| | | 110 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 249542719
Fri, Nov 10, 2006, 19:06
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$50
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| | | 111 | DWetzel
ID: 563201922
Fri, Nov 10, 2006, 21:02
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Stars 2-7 Triple draw: in a word, yum.
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| | | 112 | R9
ID: 99392020
Fri, Nov 10, 2006, 21:24
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lol! I was just messing around at Stars 2-7 T-d. I'm pretty awful, but managed to come out ahead so far. Fun game. The new HORSE and T-d tables look good, as do the Razz tables. All 3 are games I know the rules to, but am far from being decent at. Seems like good practice.
Finished 3rd in a 280 person Pokerstars Omaha PL tourney, so I've got some coin to screw around with there now.
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| | | 113 | DE
ID: 29161022
Sat, Nov 11, 2006, 10:34
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wow you started with 50 and now you are playing 5/10 limits.. that's pretty good
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| | | 114 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 249542719
Sat, Nov 11, 2006, 15:14
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I play up to 25-50 NL...but typically 2or3 5-10 NL tables...
Playing 2-4 NL right now...bleh...trying to build a bankroll on fulltilt...so far so good...
I don't like the interface as much as where I used to play...but the rakeback is nice...and the reward points are nice...wish my old site had rewards like that...probably would have had 500K points or more...play seems weaker so far...
RFS did you transfer me $25? I just got a transfer for $25 and not sure where it came from?
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| | | 115 | rockafellerskank
ID: 49136120
Sat, Nov 11, 2006, 15:38
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ChicagoTRS - Not me. You are listed under my referal though so as soon as they send me $50, I'll send you $25. They normally only pay once per month, so if you clear the threshold by 11/15, it may come..
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| | | 116 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 249542719
Sat, Nov 11, 2006, 15:44
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Good chance I clear that by 11/15...
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| | | 117 | DE
ID: 45929912
Sat, Nov 11, 2006, 15:44
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if you play $25 to $50 dollar NL tables and you started with 50 dollars total.. You must bein the 100k range by now...
I just find it strange that you are worried about 25 bucks.
Wow... I started play TAG and i started with 50 just like you.. Now i am up to about 94 dollars in about 6 hours...
Not really worth it time wise but it's better than losing.. i'll figure i'll deposit 1000 and start doing the 25cent/50 cent tables soon.
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| | | 118 | beastiemiked
ID: 36428317
Sat, Nov 11, 2006, 15:44
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TRS, any points you use are deducted from your MGR. I heard they were getting electronics so I'd wait before using any points.
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| | | 119 | DE
ID: 45929912
Sat, Nov 11, 2006, 15:45
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I wish there were more sites with cash games HU b/c that's where i can win a couple 1000 in a night.
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| | | 120 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 249542719
Sat, Nov 11, 2006, 16:11
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That is sweet...I was looking at the electronice at PokerStars thinking a 50" plasma would be nice...
MGR?
I am not worried about $25...just got an email that showed $25 transferred to my account and wondered where it came from...
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| | | 121 | pokerpro
ID: 181041219
Mon, Nov 13, 2006, 17:42
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Another site rumored to be going down for united state players!Look at www.emptytilt.com
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| | | 122 | ChicagoTRS
Leader
ID: 566152116
Mon, Nov 13, 2006, 17:56
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"Another site rumored to be going down for united state players!Look at www.emptytilt.com"
spammer? Can't find any rumors on various poker forums regarding fulltilt closing their doors to US players...
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| | | 123 | pokerpro
ID: 181041219
Mon, Nov 13, 2006, 18:00
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Thank you Chicago i saw it while playing on fulltilt a few minutes ago in the room but it was a spammer not that i think about it
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| | | 124 | swami
ID: 397233121
Mon, Nov 13, 2006, 22:32
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How do I get all my money in here? This player is extremely aggressive. I've only been at the table for 20 hands and he has played at least 10 of them. Showed down 35o the only time someone called him.
PokerStars Game #7016163460: Hold'em No Limit ($0.02/$0.05) - 2006/11/13 - 22:22:43 (ET)
Table 'Archid III' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: gotbaggs ($5.07 in chips)
Seat 2: joheda ($29.47 in chips)
Seat 3: DaSwam ($9.76 in chips)
Seat 4: Harrison57 ($9.67 in chips)
Seat 5: The KBA ($2.96 in chips)
Seat 6: ChauriyeX ($6.58 in chips)
Seat 7: COMMISSH ($10.23 in chips)
Seat 8: mcwhitney ($1.37 in chips)
Seat 9: FF_Bolt ($5.75 in chips)
FF_Bolt: posts small blind $0.02
gotbaggs: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DaSwam [Ah Kh]
joheda: calls $0.05
DaSwam: raises $0.15 to $0.20
Harrison57: folds
The KBA: folds
ChauriyeX: folds
COMMISSH: folds
mcwhitney: folds
FF_Bolt: folds
gotbaggs: folds
joheda: calls $0.15
*** FLOP *** [2h Jh 6h]
joheda: bets $0.15
DaSwam: ???
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| | | 125 | weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Tue, Nov 14, 2006, 02:00
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I would just call.
You have 2 more cards to come and hopefully he makes a play at the pot.
When faced with a maniac just get out of the way and let them do their thing.
A check-check on the turn might be the best thing for you and hope he makes a huge bet on the river.
If he checks on the river I would then move all-in hoping he thinks you are bluffing.
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| | | 126 | R9
ID: 99392020
Tue, Nov 14, 2006, 09:19
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I tend to disagree. Playing half of all hands is loose/agressive, but thats far from being a maniac. There are times I play 50 of 100 hands, and I'm no maniac. I'm just playing the people, the board and my stack. So if there's thought behind his actions, your flat call will look suspiciously like a big hand. Rather, vs. maniacs, people tend to raise their draws and try to slowplay their made hands. What will likely happen is check/check on the turn as weykool says, and then if he doesn't hit anything you get zilch for your big hand.
I would reverse this trend and give him a chance to think about "trying to push you off your A-high flush draw" by raising. I don't like giving free cards, even if the guy is a maniac. Maybe he has something like 96os, and it comes runner-runner 9-6. Who's the idiot then? ;) Loose/Agressive types like to push people off hands in big pots, not take big stabs at small pots. If you make it look like you have an Ace-high flush draw, if no heart comes he might feel emboldened enough to try and push you off the pot. Since you'll have made the pot bigger with flop and turn bets, there will be a pot worthy of him trying to steal.
Of course, he could have absolutely nothing and just fold. But his nature is to try and win big pots, and by raising you increase the chance that he'll want this one.
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| | | 127 | DE
ID: 45929912
Tue, Nov 14, 2006, 12:24
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okay let's say that he goes all in after you raise.. I find this scenario happens a TON b/c i do it a lot.. Does Swami call an all in on the flop?
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| | | 128 | weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Tue, Nov 14, 2006, 12:43
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DE:
Swami has the best hand.
Why would you think about folding when your hand is best?
If he gets beat after that there is nothing you can do.
Getting your money in while you are ahead is the whole object of the game.
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| | | 129 | DE
ID: 45929912
Tue, Nov 14, 2006, 14:13
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oh oops. i thought he had flush draw.
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| | | 130 | swami
ID: 397233121
Tue, Nov 14, 2006, 19:21
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I called. On the turn (blank) he shoved for $3. I put him on a bluff as he didn't think I had a heart or a set. Fearing the set, I came back over the top all-in and he insta-called. It turned out to be a good thing I pushed the turn as the river brought an 8h and 4 flushed the board. He flipped over QTh and I doubled through. Needless to say, I have a nice couple of notes on the guy.
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| | | 131 | Aman
ID: 427312414
Tue, Nov 28, 2006, 08:35
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Interesting article in the current Card Player magazine:
www.cardplayer.com/poker_news/article/3364
My read on the article is that the casinos want to have the wireless device onsight but how could they really track that? It would seem to me that as long as you had an account with them, they wouldn't care where you are.
I wouldn't be surprised to see Bill Frist on the board or a makor stockholder.
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| | | 132 | swami
ID: 3910271620
Thu, Nov 30, 2006, 20:29
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I hate poker:
PokerStars Game #7244605456: Hold'em No Limit ($0.02/$0.05) - 2006/11/30 - 20:21:16 (ET)
Table 'Stephano IV' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Bababooy1 ($6.06 in chips)
Seat 2: viking121961 ($9.78 in chips)
Seat 3: DaSwam ($10.94 in chips)
Seat 5: fitinho ($6.57 in chips)
Seat 6: DKola315 ($9.42 in chips)
Seat 7: iLLuS10n- ($4.15 in chips)
Seat 8: Kuge ($5.74 in chips)
Seat 9: topdg ($6 in chips)
fitinho: posts small blind $0.02
DKola315: posts big blind $0.05
topdg: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DaSwam [8c 9c]
iLLuS10n-: folds
Kuge: folds
topdg: checks
verstegen joins the table at seat #4
Bababooy1: calls $0.05
viking121961: folds
DaSwam: calls $0.05
fitinho: calls $0.03
DKola315: checks
*** FLOP *** [Tc Js 7s]
fitinho: checks
DKola315: checks
topdg: bets $0.10
Bababooy1: calls $0.10
DaSwam: raises $0.20 to $0.30
fitinho: folds
DKola315: folds
topdg: raises $5.65 to $5.95 and is all-in
Bababooy1: raises $0.06 to $6.01 and is all-in
DaSwam: calls $5.71
*** TURN *** [Tc Js 7s] [As]
*** RIVER *** [Tc Js 7s As] [7h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Bababooy1: shows [Td Ts] (a full house, Tens full of Sevens)
DaSwam: shows [8c 9c] (a straight, Seven to Jack)
Bababooy1 collected $0.12 from side pot
topdg: shows [Jd Jh] (a full house, Jacks full of Sevens)
DaSwam said, "nice catch dumbass"
topdg collected $17.20 from main pot
topdg is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $18.22 Main pot $17.20. Side pot $0.12. | Rake $0.90
Board [Tc Js 7s As 7h]
Seat 1: Bababooy1 showed [Td Ts] and won ($0.12) with a full house, Tens full of Sevens
Seat 3: DaSwam (button) showed [8c 9c] and lost with a straight, Seven to Jack
Seat 9: topdg showed [Jd Jh] and won ($17.20) with a full house, Jacks full of Sevens
This bad beat complaint brought to you by DaSwam...
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| | | 133 | Sludge
ID: 45541422
Thu, Nov 30, 2006, 22:15
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Dumbass? He was holding a set. Dumbass? Please.
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| | | 134 | Farn
Leader
ID: 451044109
Fri, Dec 01, 2006, 00:56
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did you want him to lay down a set for 5 bucks? I'm a little confused as to why he's a dumbass...
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| | | 135 | R9
ID: 99392020
Fri, Dec 01, 2006, 01:33
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Badabooy had an opportunity to get away from his hand at least, unless topdg had been playing like a loose idiot.
Other then that, you can't blame top set from getting his money in.
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| | | 136 | swami
ID: 75542011
Fri, Dec 01, 2006, 08:36
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We'd been exchanging pleasantries back and forth at the table for a bit. It was taken in the manner intended by topdg. I hadn't seen Badabooy before that hand. Hopefully he was offended.
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| | | 137 | threespleens
Leader
ID: 00795541
Fri, Dec 01, 2006, 13:54
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DaSwam said, "nice catch dumbass"
which one is the dumbass?
i'm just wondering, since there are three people at the table and both the best and second-best hand don't belong to you.
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| | | 138 | Weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Fri, Dec 01, 2006, 14:50
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I for one have never understood the "nice catch" comments.
I used to see it all the time at party and sometimes at FT.
Correct me if i am wrong....but dont we play the best of ALL FIVE community cards?
In this case is it more lucky to "catch" a boat or "flop" the straight?
Calling someone a dumbass for not folding thier top set is is almost too funny for words.
No offense, but who is the real dumbass?
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| | | 139 | Donkey Hunter
Sustainer
ID: 916288962
Fri, Dec 01, 2006, 18:51
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OK I have a hand I could use some advice on. I am pretty sure I played it wrong in several ways but lets see what you guys think. 4 people left in a 400 person tourney. Blinds are 5,000/10,000 and I am in the small blind. I have about 90,000 chips which is small stack at the table. 1st position has a huge chip lead. dealer has 2nd most chips and the big blind is at probably 110-130,000. First two players call the blind. What should I do here? Should I push?
Ok second part I call and big blind checks. Flop comes Q-10-7 rainbow. I am first to act. What should I do there?
So I check, big blind checks, big stack bets 25000 and dealer calls. Now what?
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| | | 140 | Weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Fri, Dec 01, 2006, 18:54
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139
That would depend on if you have AA or 7-2os
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| | | 141 | Donkey Hunter
Sustainer
ID: 916288962
Fri, Dec 01, 2006, 19:02
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Lol. My bad. I had my hand in one of my drafts of the post. I have KJo.
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| | | 142 | tommyd7878
ID: 16728922
Fri, Dec 01, 2006, 21:36
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Push pre flop.
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| | | 143 | Weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Sat, Dec 02, 2006, 00:12
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I think you have played it right.
You do not have the chips to be pushing K-J preflop.
I think you have to call the 25000.
You have open ended nut straight draw with 2 cards to come.
They would need runner/runner to make a flush.
If you raise you could get called or reraised all in with a set, higher pr or 2 pr.
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| | | 144 | tommyd
ID: 36858254
Sat, Dec 02, 2006, 15:59
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If you call the 25000 and don't hit you will have an M just below 4 so you are pretty much pushing any two when folded to. I still say push pre flop with two limpers you probably have their range beat or are a coinflip and with 35k in the pot already it's worth winning. This depends on what the other guys have been limping with as well I guess. On the flop there's no way I'm just calling, it's either push or fold and with possibly 11 outs with your straight and over card you are probably a 60-40 dog and there's 90k in the pot.
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| | | 145 | R9
ID: 99392020
Thu, Dec 07, 2006, 15:46
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Just sick. :)
Bhuster and misterb both had view flop %'s over 75%, and agression factors below 0.50. Total calling stations, so for the second hand I put them on 9's on turn, with no fear of an over-set, so my call was just a pure value-draw.
#Game No : 2055424184
***** Pacific Hand History for Game 2055424184 *****
$1/$2 Blinds No Limit Hold'em - *** 12 07 13:13:18 2006
Table Samichlaus Bier (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 10: vegas199 ( $198 )
Seat 1: keffer14 ( $172.7 )
Seat 2: SoloG ( $183.9 )
Seat 3: misterb7 ( $217.8 )
Seat 4: WWP24 ( $197 )
Seat 5: 52ndcard ( $194 )
Seat 6: sibbiSZ ( $190 )
Seat 7: RNiner ( $211.4 )
Seat 8: AStillan ( $656.45 )
Seat 9: Bhuster ( $238 )
sibbiSZ posts small blind [$1].
RNiner posts big blind [$2].
misterb7 posts dead blind [$1].
misterb7 posts big blind [$2].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RNiner [ Ad As ]
AStillan raises [$10].
Bhuster calls [$10].
vegas199 folds.
keffer14 folds.
SoloG folds.
misterb7 calls [$8].
WWP24 folds.
52ndcard folds.
sibbiSZ folds.
RNiner raises [$30].
AStillan calls [$22].
Bhuster calls [$22].
misterb7 calls [$22].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 9s, 5d, 4c ]
RNiner bets [$75].
AStillan folds.
Bhuster calls [$75].
misterb7 folds.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 5h ]
RNiner bets [$104.4].
Bhuster calls [$104.4].
** Dealing River ** [ 2c ]
** Summary **
RNiner shows [ Ad As ].
Bhuster shows [ 5s Ac ].
Bhuster shows [ 5s Ac ].
Bhuster collected [$484.8].
The very next hand:
#Game No : 2055424300
***** Pacific Hand History for Game 2055424300 *****
$1/$2 Blinds No Limit Hold'em - *** 12 07 13:16:16 2006
Table Samichlaus Bier (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 10: vegas199 ( $198 )
Seat 1: keffer14 ( $172.7 )
Seat 2: SoloG ( $183.9 )
Seat 3: misterb7 ( $184.8 )
Seat 4: WWP24 ( $197 )
Seat 5: 52ndcard ( $194 )
Seat 6: sibbiSZ ( $189 )
Seat 7: RNiner ( $200 )
Seat 8: AStillan ( $624.45 )
Seat 9: Bhuster ( $511.4 )
RNiner posts small blind [$1].
AStillan posts big blind [$2].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RNiner [ 10d 10s ]
Bhuster calls [$2].
vegas199 folds.
keffer14 folds.
SoloG folds.
misterb7 calls [$2].
WWP24 folds.
52ndcard calls [$2].
sibbiSZ folds.
RNiner calls [$1].
AStillan checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Js, 8d, 10c ]
RNiner bets [$10].
AStillan raises [$20].
Bhuster calls [$20].
misterb7 calls [$20].
52ndcard folds.
RNiner raises [$80].
AStillan folds.
Bhuster calls [$70].
misterb7 calls [$70].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Qs ]
RNiner checks.
Bhuster bets [$109].
misterb7 calls [$92.8].
RNiner calls [$108].
** Dealing River ** [ 7h ]
** Summary **
misterb7 shows [ Jc 8h ].
RNiner shows [ 10d 10s ].
Bhuster shows [ 9d Jh ].
Bhuster shows [ 9d Jh ].
Bhuster collected [$574.4].
Bhuster collected [$30.4].
Bhuster collected [$1].
Two hands after those two:
#Game No : 2055424585
***** Pacific Hand History for Game 2055424585 *****
$1/$2 Blinds No Limit Hold'em - *** 12 07 13:19:31 2006
Table Samichlaus Bier (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 10: vegas199 ( $198 )
Seat 1: keffer14 ( $172.7 )
Seat 2: SoloG ( $175.9 )
Seat 4: WWP24 ( $197 )
Seat 5: 52ndcard ( $192 )
Seat 6: sibbiSZ ( $189 )
Seat 7: RNiner ( $200 )
Seat 8: AStillan ( $590.45 )
Seat 9: Bhuster ( $934.6 )
Bhuster posts small blind [$1].
vegas199 posts big blind [$2].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RNiner [ 10s 9s ]
keffer14 folds.
SoloG folds.
WWP24 folds.
52ndcard folds.
sibbiSZ folds.
RNiner calls [$2].
AStillan folds.
Bhuster calls [$1].
vegas199 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 9c, 10d, Qh ]
Bhuster checks.
vegas199 checks.
RNiner bets [$8].
Bhuster calls [$8].
vegas199 calls [$8].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Jh ]
Bhuster checks.
vegas199 checks.
RNiner checks.
** Dealing River ** [ 8c ]
Bhuster checks.
vegas199 checks.
RNiner checks.
** Summary **
Bhuster shows [ Qs 2c ].
vegas199 shows [ 6d Js ].
RNiner shows [ 10s 9s ].
Bhuster collected [$9.5].
RNiner collected [$9.5].
vegas199 collected [$9.5].
I've been having an insanely good run the last two months, so I think my luck caught up with me. ;)
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| | | 146 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 249542719
Wed, Dec 13, 2006, 01:49
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Finally getting some traction in fulltilt....hate this process of building a bankroll. Now I can't F it up this time...
I was up to 4K earlier and then pissed it away jumping to big limits...
really good 2-4 NL table tonight...if I could just catch a couple more hands...sitting being patient...couple players at the table trying to bully every pot and willing to pay off any hand.
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| | | 147 | rockafellerskank
ID: 49136120
Mon, Dec 18, 2006, 23:55
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frustration post...
I guess I'm not looking for advice, nor will I post a series of bad beat stories.
I just need to vent. I've been running bad in December. I'm probably looking at my first losing month in the last 14. (And not a small loss).
I've been beat everyway a player can be beat. I went back to look at some of my worst sessions and will add that about 25% of my losses have come from bad calls when I "knew" I was beat but couldn't fold.
I've never been faced with such a downturn before. I may take a break, change levels, change sites, change gears (although I have lost playing LAG, TAG, WAG, and maniac). maybe I've played too long at the same site and too many players have a read on me? Maybe I need to play some B&M this weekend?
Anyone care to share what you've done to shed such a funk? I'm OK bankroll-wise, but dont relish the idea of the streak continuing.
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| | | 148 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 249542719
Tue, Dec 19, 2006, 00:15
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I have been there...I have played 36 months now with 31 winning months so generally I am a very winning player...but sometimes you just run bad...I think it is just variance/luck that you get put in a lot of 2nd best situations where you can't escape and then most of us probably compound it by losing confidence and playing timid or like a maniac or just plain poorly.
What I generally do is first of all look at my past statistics and know I am a good/winning player. You/I have enough history that you know without doubt that you can play the game at a consistent winning level. As far as getting out of the funk...a lot of things you can do...take a break...play less...drop levels...tighten your game up preflop...tilt off some money in the microgames...play a different game... It has been my experience that your luck will change and you will get back to your typical winning percentage...
I do think the game does evolve and the general playing community is always improving...sharks eat the fish and eventually there are fewer fish. The latest legislation probably will quicken this process but I do not think it changes that quickly. If you are a consistent winner (14 straight winning months)...I would say undoubtedly it is just variance and probably some of your own doing. Relax...take a break...play less hours...book a few small wins...
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| | | 149 | R9
ID: 99392020
Tue, Dec 19, 2006, 02:10
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I started serious tracking in January and have had one losing month, which was also a decent-sized figure. Reviewing my hand logs, I certainly suffered some bad beats, but other losses were my own fault. I was tilting, but in a diminished and harder to see way. Sometimes I wish I had an explosive personality so that I would know when I was really mad... ;)
I'd say take some time off, a few days at least, and do something fun. Maybe cash out a bit of money and go do something you always enjoy doing. Taking your mind off something negative and focusing it on something positive always works for me. Often times, like TRS, all I really need is to look at my longterm winnings and my immediate shortterm loss looks real small by comparison.
If I'm running bad a few days in a row though, I know I need 2-3 days off. Even if every loss was a bad beat, I can't possibly be in a good frame of mind, and neither would I enjoy poker all that much.
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Funny that you think the games may be getting (slowly) harder TRS. I assumed the legislation would quickly bring about that result as well, but in fact my tables have been more loose/passive then ever before, and consequently my Nov/Dec have been the best two months I've ever had. I've seen more new names at the 200, 400 and 600 level then in the previous 10 months combined. I suppose some of that may be the televised WSOP effect?
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| | | 150 | R9
ID: 99392020
Tue, Dec 19, 2006, 02:16
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I wanted to mention also, that in reviewing my hand logs of that losing month (April) I noticed that the other regulars at my tables were often trapping and baiting me much in the same way they do now, only I was falling for it. So:
"maybe I've played too long at the same site and too many players have a read on me?"
I'd say that as regulars they've always had some read on your play (and vice-versa) and since you've beaten them in the past, you know they're beatable. More likely it is somewhat tilt related, and they are seeing it and jumping on it the way we do to players we know are tilting. Remove the tilt, and they'll have to deal with the same tough-to-beat player they've always had to.
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| | | 151 | threespleens
Leader
ID: 00795541
Tue, Dec 19, 2006, 06:47
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PokerStars Game #7395953796: Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2006/12/11 - 09:49:14 (ET)
Table 'Reginita' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: FIFTY ($26.90 in chips)
Seat 2: 8 PEOPLES ($27.80 in chips)
Seat 3: theckdis ($25 in chips)
Seat 4: filipachino ($23.75 in chips)
Seat 5: Razvann ($16.05 in chips)
Seat 6: baylu ($7.15 in chips)
Seat 7: threespleens ($30.30 in chips)
Seat 8: Dittohead8 ($51.65 in chips)
Dittohead8: posts small blind $0.10
FIFTY: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to threespleens [Ac 3h Ts 8d]
8 PEOPLES: folds
theckdis: raises $0.50 to $0.75
filipachino: folds
jackally65 leaves the table
Razvann: folds
baylu: folds
threespleens: calls $0.75
Dittohead8: calls $0.65
FIFTY: calls $0.50
*** FLOP *** [6s 2d Kd]
Dittohead8: checks
FIFTY: checks
theckdis: bets $2.85
threespleens: calls $2.85
Dittohead8: calls $2.85
FIFTY: folds
*** TURN *** [6s 2d Kd] [Jc]
Dittohead8: checks
theckdis: bets $11
threespleens: ???
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| | | 152 | The Beezer
Leader
ID: 191202817
Tue, Dec 19, 2006, 07:46
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This looks like a fold to me. Only 3 outs to a high and 15 to a low that's likely split with this many players in. Unless you had some sort of read that the initial raiser was a donk, I don't think I would have called initially, and the flop might have been better served by a raise since a call usually isn't helpful in PLO8.
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| | | 153 | Sludge
ID: 45541422
Tue, Dec 19, 2006, 09:43
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Easy fold. You're only playing for half the pot; no chance to scoop. With one left to act behind you, you might find yourself head's up putting in the rest of your money to win a paltry $5.75 while praying the whole time that you don't get quartered (assuming you hit an out).
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| | | 154 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 4110481415
Tue, Dec 19, 2006, 11:19
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R9...the new names and the recent growth is directly related to Party and a few other sites shutting their doors to american players. All of their players (me) have moved to new sites...mainly PokerStars and FullTilt and Absolute. I know FullTilt has at least doubled.
Why the play has declined? Could just be variance...I know in my case I feel I have not been playing at my normal level...I have not been playing poor (well sometimes) but I think it is directly related to trying to rebuild my bankroll on a new site...it is added pressure when you are playing a short bankroll and cannot absorb too many losses. I also have been playing smaller games...which could be the case for a lot of people and I think when you are used to playing for bigger money and then you drop down levels it is normal to play a little looser because the bets seem small. I think for awhile I was also pushing...trying to make things happen because I wanted to rebuild quick and get to the levels where I feel most comfortable. This may be the case for many of the players who have moved sites.
Finally I am settling in and have booked 10 straight winning days...but still am only at a third of where I want my bankroll. Just trying to be very patient and get back to playing my game.
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| | | 155 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 4110481415
Tue, Dec 19, 2006, 11:26
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As for poker evolution...it will occur. First players get more experienced and tend to play better over time. Fish go broke and right now while poker is still hot (may be cooling a little)...there are new fish to replace the broke fish. Eventually the players who are marginal winners if they do not improve will become marginal losers...some of the former sharks will become fish. The game should get tougher and tougher unless there is a continual influx of new players. Only the strongest survive type thing. Important to be always improving your own game so you stay ahead of the curve...do not want to be that sick antelope that gets fed to the lions.
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| | | 156 | rockafellerskank
ID: 180352016
Tue, Dec 19, 2006, 17:16
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Thanks R9 and TRS. I'm quite a bit calmer today, but still am not going to play for another 24 hours. I spent some time reviewing poker-tracker. A few things I notied:
1) My aggression factor went way down. I didn't realize it but I think I became a calling station and played alot of marginal hands out of position.
2) AA, KK QQ and AK didn't get much action for me (with a few exceptions to be noted in the next point). I colelcted a lot of blinds with premium hands. I was probbaly broadcasting "I am weak unless I raise and then you know I have a monster"
3) I did get some action with especially KK and lost 3 full stacks to 3-6o, 8-10s and 5-7s as they hit flushces or sets and I refused to back off. I was OOP each time and got smooth called down and then stacked on the final bet. (Bad play(s) by me.
Finally, in November, I w/d a lot of poker money and actually spent it. I past months, I only "paid" myself a few hundy here and there, but in November I used poker money for a car downpayment, condo closing costs and bought a new 50" plasma home theater system. I remember thinking to my self that this was "supplemental income" and I think the money became too real to me. I think I played scared money. In the past I treated it like casino chips and had practically no fear to raise or use selective agression. I need to recover that mind set.
Anyway, the moral of the storuy is it is good to slow down and evaluate your play. I think I will set the habit of doing this excercise 1x each month going forward.
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| | | 157 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 249542719
Tue, Dec 26, 2006, 22:00
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Finally on a good run of cards...15 day winning streak...have my bankroll about 3/4 back on the new site...can play my regular games...now to start earning again...
Turned my 5th royal flush today...didn't get paid anything on it...
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| | | 158 | rockafellerskank
ID: 49136120
Tue, Dec 26, 2006, 23:05
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Turned my 5th royal flush today.
That would be a record!
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| | | 159 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 4110481415
Wed, Dec 27, 2006, 09:50
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lol...yeah not today...but in my career...
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| | | 160 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 4110481415
Thu, Dec 28, 2006, 11:36
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up to a 16 day winning streak...felt like I played poorly yet still won nearly a K...
love when you are betting the hell out of a draw...trying to steal the pot and then you make your draw on the river...caught a guy good for all his money when I rivered a straight...he should have reraised with his set...he cried for 30 minutes...
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| | | 161 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 249542719
Sat, Dec 30, 2006, 20:53
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up to 19 days...though tonight is not over...
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| | | 162 | rockafellerskank
ID: 49136120
Sat, Dec 30, 2006, 22:19
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post 147 update:
I'm going to have a winning month. I went "back to basics" and nothing fancy and I can't seem to lose. I'll admit I've had afew 'variances' work my way -- 2 big pots ste over set and flopped a coupled biggger str8s over str8. Life's good.
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| | | 163 | swami
ID: 3910271620
Mon, Jan 01, 2007, 20:47
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DONK ALERT
Keep an eye out for uwannalaf on Stars and FullTilt. I played some $.10/$.25 with him today and watched him re-buy for the max ($25) 8+ times in and hour and a half. Makes huge bets on all streets with nothing and will call huge bets with 3rd and 4th pair. Here's one example:
PokerStars Game #7717372772: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2007/01/01 - 19:10:17 (ET)
Table 'Sinon IV' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 4: uwannalaf ($79.90 in chips)
Seat 6: El_Loco_Solo ($29.90 in chips)
sixtybel0w: posts small blind $0.10
DaSwam: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
ro23berto: calls $0.25
uwannalaf: raises $10.50 to $10.75
El_Loco_Solo: raises $19.15 to $29.90 and is all-in
sixtybel0w said, "unreal"
uwannalaf: calls $19.15
*** FLOP *** [9h 6h Th]
*** TURN *** [9h 6h Th] [2s]
*** RIVER *** [9h 6h Th 2s] [3d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
uwannalaf: shows [Ks Ts] (a pair of Tens)
El_Loco_Solo: mucks hand
uwannalaf collected $57.40 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $60.40 | Rake $3
Board [9h 6h Th 2s 3d]
Seat 4: uwannalaf showed [Ks Ts] and won ($57.40) with a pair of Tens
Seat 5: F0LD--IT folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: El_Loco_Solo mucked [Kh Ad]
You can search his ID on google for more confirmation.
This PSA has been brought to you by swami. You may now return to your regularly scheduled fish hunting...
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| | | 164 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 4110481415
Tue, Jan 02, 2007, 12:39
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Winning streak over on new years eve...bleh...lost my ass...still a good winning month in Dec...but gave away half of my profit. Tilt is not your friend...
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| | | 165 | swami
ID: 75542011
Wed, Jan 03, 2007, 15:42
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Keep the focus on the good sessions TRS. Your great run allows you to have a tough run
I'm playing well lately for a change. Since 11/1 I've turned $50 into $665 on Stars playing $25NL and $50NL. That includes dumping $100 in to clear a $25 bonus. I'm not sure how long the streak will last. Especially if I lose discipline and move up in limits again.
On a side note, in the heat of the moment, how do you get away from being stacked on the river on a Jc4s9c6s9s board when holding AsJs vs a VERY loose aggressive player?
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| | | 166 | rockafellerskank
ID: 180352016
Wed, Jan 03, 2007, 16:45
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I saw a sick 90 seconds on Absolute Poker last night. Within 2 hands I watched a player (he is a very good player too) flop quad 2s and a Royal Flush back to back. Even sicker? He did it vs. AA both times with preflop raises 5X BB. Even sicker? The first time the flop was A22 so he stacked the guy for $200 plus. Even sicker? The second time was MY Ace Ace and the flop came AhJhQh -- luckly for me I lost the minimum (only $60ish with a flopped set of Aces) especially considering he has position on me. I figured him for a flush, but I crapped when I saw he played Kh10h. I'd have been staccked if that board paired. In the next 30 seconds all 5 other players clicked "sit out" Sick. Sick. Sick.
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| | | 167 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 4110481415
Wed, Jan 03, 2007, 16:56
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Funny how you can win 20 nights in a row and now I lose 2 of 3 nights and feel like I can't play any more. I am taking tonight off...feel like I have been playing too much. Making some stupid desperate plays.
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| | | 168 | swami
ID: 3910271620
Wed, Jan 03, 2007, 20:51
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Bad call by me? The player was very loose and had made that play a bunch. Was caught bluffing once and rebought. Even knowing the results, I'm not too annoyed with the call, even thought I didn't need to play a big pot. The odds said I was about 68% to win. Feedback welcomed:
PokerStars Game #7752233446: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2007/01/03 - 20:36:07 (ET)
Table 'Jugta II' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: maggotfeed ($6.40 in chips)
Seat 2: PrinceKael ($27.30 in chips)
Seat 3: chaotis ($25 in chips)
Seat 4: daviddakid ($18.20 in chips)
Seat 5: Huey 4460 ($23.20 in chips)
Seat 6: DaSwam ($24.90 in chips)
Seat 7: NateCull ($14.15 in chips)
Seat 8: sumdude ($6.45 in chips)
Seat 9: RayMac777 ($12.90 in chips)
NateCull: posts small blind $0.10
sumdude: posts big blind $0.25
chaotis: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DaSwam [As Td]
chaotis: calls $0.25
DaSwam: raises $1 to $1.25
chaotis: calls $1
*** FLOP *** [Jd Ah Qd]
chaotis: bets $23.75 and is all-in
DaSwam: calls $23.65 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [Jd Ah Qd] [9c]
*** RIVER *** [Jd Ah Qd 9c] [5d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
chaotis: shows [2d 8d] (a flush, Queen high)
DaSwam: mucks hand
chaotis collected $47.65 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $50.15 | Rake $2.50
Board [Jd Ah Qd 9c 5d]
Seat 1: maggotfeed folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: PrinceKael folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: chaotis showed [2d 8d] and won ($47.65) with a flush, Queen high
Seat 6: DaSwam (button) mucked [As Td]
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| | | 170 | Sludge
ID: 45541422
Sun, Jan 07, 2007, 22:00
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Friend of mine set up a $5 tourney at PS. Starts in 45 minutes. "One for fun" under private tournies. "ourgame" is the password. Feel free to take our money.
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| | | 171 | Sludge
ID: 16109168
Mon, Jan 08, 2007, 15:46
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Tonight at 9pm (Central). Tourney: Losers-R-Us. (#40039147) Password: Iwilllose.
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| | | 172 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 4110481415
Tue, Jan 09, 2007, 10:39
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Heading to Vegas Thursday...probably will play poker all of Thursday and most of Friday. Party and watch NFL the rest of the weekend. Staying at the Monte Carlo...but not sure where I will be playing poker yet...I heard the games are very small at the Monte and I want to play 5-10NL or maybe 2-5NL. Wish me luck.
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| | | 173 | R9
ID: 3511512123
Tue, Jan 09, 2007, 17:55
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GL TRS! I'm heading back to Vegas myself from Feb 6-10, can't wait! Gonna have a much bigger bankroll this time, somewhere around 10 g's, instead of the 2 I had last year. I still think Bellagio is where its at, although I'll likely stop by Caesars too.
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| | | 174 | beastiemiked
ID: 3101646
Tue, Jan 09, 2007, 19:28
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The Monte Carlo won't have anything higher than a 1/2 NL game. Head over to Caesers or the Bellagio.
I'm headed down to Melbourne in a couple of hours for the Aussie Millions. Plan on playing in the $1650 prelim event and playing in at least 2 1k satellites for the main event. Sucks as I have bubbled twice in satellites and I feel I should already have my seat.
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| | | 175 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 249542719
Tue, Jan 09, 2007, 21:22
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Will be playing with a 5K bankroll which I figure should be enough...for ~16 hours of poker I plan on playing.
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| | | 176 | beastiemiked
ID: 5401119
Thu, Jan 11, 2007, 10:16
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I'm headed down to Melbourne in a couple of hours for the Aussie Millions. Plan on playing in the $1650 prelim event and playing in at least 2 1k satellites for the main event. Sucks as I have bubbled twice in satellites and I feel I should already have my seat.
Finished 24th out of 500+ runners. Good for $4200+. With about 15 bb's, my AK ran into KK. So unsatisfying.
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| | | 177 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 19020214
Fri, Jan 12, 2007, 06:01
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So far so good...played 5-10 NL for ~5 hours at the Bellagio this afternoon...walked away a very nice winner...paid for my entire trip and then a lot more...will definitely come how with extra. Was a comfortable game...some good players...some willing to bluff off all of their chips...was pretty much the level of play I am used to competing against.
Goofed around this evening and played 1-2 NL at the Monte Carlo...tripled my buyin...absolutely horrible poker being played. Was like playing with people who never played before. Hard to put someone on a hand when they do not even know what they have.
Probably will stick to small games if I play much more...bunch of friends are flying in tomorrow...will only play if they want to sit down. Maybe a tournament or two...
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| | | 178 | swami
ID: 430281319
Sat, Jan 13, 2007, 20:36
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Has there ever been a better BB special?
PokerStars Game #7922469945: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2007/01/13 - 20:31:29 (ET)
Table 'Leukothea IV' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: GD1565043 ($90.75 in chips)
Seat 2: Nab4ever77 ($17.25 in chips)
Seat 3: Julik77 ($61.25 in chips)
Seat 4: zaxap82 ($108.20 in chips)
Seat 6: DaSwam ($140.50 in chips)
Seat 7: Big_Lon_10 ($66.40 in chips)
Seat 8: BenKern ($95.50 in chips)
Seat 9: p0ck3tch4ng3 ($101.75 in chips)
zaxap82: posts small blind $0.50
DaSwam: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DaSwam [Td 3c]
Big_Lon_10: folds
BenKern: folds
p0ck3tch4ng3: folds
GD1565043: calls $1
Nab4ever77: folds
Julik77: calls $1
zaxap82: folds
DaSwam: checks
*** FLOP *** [Th 3h 3d]
DaSwam: checks
GD1565043: checks
Julik77: checks
*** TURN *** [Th 3h 3d] [8s]
DaSwam: checks
GD1565043: bets $1
Julik77: calls $1
DaSwam: calls $1
*** RIVER *** [Th 3h 3d 8s] [7d]
DaSwam: bets $3
GD1565043: folds
Julik77: raises $3 to $6
DaSwam: raises $132.50 to $138.50 and is all-in
Julik77: calls $53.25 and is all-in
*** SHOW DOWN ***
DaSwam: shows [Td 3c] (a full house, Threes full of Tens)
Julik77: mucks hand
DaSwam collected $122 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $125 | Rake $3
Board [Th 3h 3d 8s 7d]
Seat 3: Julik77 (button) mucked [Js 9d]
Seat 6: DaSwam (big blind) showed [Td 3c] and won ($122) with a full house, Threes full of Tens
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| | | 179 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 4110481415
Tue, Jan 16, 2007, 16:46
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Back from Vegas...ended up booking a nice profit even after all expenses. Only played 1-2 NL after my big win at 5-10...mostly because I was with a group of friends and did not feel like commuting to another casino to play.
Will definitely have to do another trip or two to Vegas...maybe next time there is a WPT event in Vegas I will head there to play some cash games/satelites and maybe get in the big tournament if I can get in cheap.
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| | | 180 | swami
ID: 75542011
Thu, Jan 18, 2007, 10:38
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Neteller gone. What options are you guys looking at for money transfers?
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| | | 181 | DE
ID: 520321717
Thu, Jan 18, 2007, 11:33
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so full tilt isn't allowing US citizens anymore
Any other sites going down now?
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| | | 182 | swami
ID: 75542011
Thu, Jan 18, 2007, 13:06
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Poker sites haven't changed their acceptance of US customers, but the major player in the transferring of funds has.
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| | | 183 | DE
ID: 520321717
Thu, Jan 18, 2007, 13:15
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you are right it just says neteller is no longer accepted..
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| | | 184 | DE
ID: 520321717
Thu, Jan 18, 2007, 13:28
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swami do you ever play heads up? I think i win around 70% of the time (is there a software program that can show this for me?)
I had a nice little winning streak of 21 in a row once and I beat this one guy 12 times in a row before he finally quit...
Do you guys know any sites that do heads up cash games? I used to use cd poker but now i only get to do the heads up tourneys which are nice on absolute because the blinds start off at 30 compared to 10 at most sites...
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| | | 185 | tommyd7878
ID: 16728922
Thu, Jan 18, 2007, 22:36
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DE Tain network has heads up for sure, Tribeca might too. Full Titl does.
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| | | 186 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 249542719
Thu, Jan 18, 2007, 23:50
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Fulltilt has heads up SnGs and cash tables.
Fulltilt still accepts US customers...don't scare me!
There are alternatives to Neteller...I am using click2pay....
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| | | 187 | biliruben
ID: 52014814
Fri, Jan 19, 2007, 19:44
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Do you have to link via bank account?
Baby on the way, and I have a feeling jaunts to the casino are going to be few and far between.
I don't feel comfortable giving my bank info, however.
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| | | 188 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 249542719
Sat, Jan 20, 2007, 02:00
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Open a new account...use it only for gambling...
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| | | 189 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 249542719
Sat, Jan 20, 2007, 02:09
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bleh! I should be up so much tonight...
Lose with KK vs AQ on a Q high flop...river ace...
Lose with AK on ace high flop...all-in...flush draw catches on the river...
Lose with made flush on turn vs set...river fullhouse...
Still only down a few hundred but should be up a few thousand...with any luck...
Been running good this month anyway...
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| | | 190 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 249542719
Sat, Jan 20, 2007, 03:27
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now I am down big...f***
Lose with KK vs JJ all-in preflop...2300 mf$
2 hands later lose with KK on a A-K-10 diamond flop...of course the same knucklehead has a Q...and rivers a J...another 2k pot...mf...
should quit now...tilting...
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| | | 191 | xpdurmind
Sustainer
ID: 319471922
Sat, Jan 20, 2007, 10:35
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why do they need your ss# ?
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| | | 192 | biliruben
ID: 4911361723
Sat, Jan 20, 2007, 11:33
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We ask you for this personal information in order to prevent identity theft. Your Social Security Number (SSN) is used to verify your identity. Since most of your other information is readily available in telephone directories or on the Internet (Name, address etc.), it is necessary to have some Identification Documentation that is not publicly available.
Personally, I think they have it backwards. I guess it's how much you trust "Click2pay", which for me is not very much.
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| | | 193 | xpdurmind
Sustainer
ID: 319471922
Sat, Jan 20, 2007, 12:23
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I'm with you on that bili. That's what is keeping me from opening an account. you can't fund or withdraw without giving out too much info. At Masion, to be able to withdraw $ they need a copy of your DL or passport and the security code on your cc!...
I don't mind giving out my bank account# but not all that other info. I'll just stick to my monthly trip to the local casinos. Commerce and the Bike are close enough, but I have to plan on 1.5 hrs drive time. If you spend 4 hrs playing , your day is almost gone.
Yesterday, I entered a 30+10 NL Holdem nooner tournament at the Bicycle club casino, made it to the final table close the lead in chips. Ended up with about 40%(lead) of the chips with 7 players left, but I was so burned out that I kept lobbying everyone to chop. I walked out with $1525. A good pay day for 5 hrs, but If I had finished 7th for example it would have been ~$180 . Not enough to justify wasting 5 hrs. That is why I prefer cash games: $/t is more consistent even though it is only once or twice a month.
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| | | 194 | rockafellerskank
ID: 49136120
Mon, Jan 22, 2007, 22:06
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There is no point to this post. I just like my hand. I think this is number 8 for me. All online versions.
Stage #553015022: Holdem No Limit $1 - 2007-01-22 21:31:34 (ET)
Table: PLYMOUTH DR. (Real Money) Seat #4 is the dealer
Seat 4 - JAX74 ($44.70 in chips)
Seat 5 - MUG15 ($98 in chips)
Seat 6 - ROCK17 ($220.90 in chips)
Seat 1 - SLOWNICKEL ($103.35 in chips)
Seat 2 - SKANKBOY1 ($182.25 in chips)
Seat 3 - TYLERLEWIS ($31 in chips)
MUG15 - Posts small blind $0.50
ROCK17 - Posts big blind $1
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to SKANKBOY1 [9d 10d]
SLOWNICKEL - Folds
SKANKBOY1 - Calls $1
TYLERLEWIS - Calls $1
JAX74 - Folds
MUG15 - Raises $2.50 to $3
ROCK17 - Folds
SKANKBOY1 - Calls $2
TYLERLEWIS - Calls $2
*** FLOP *** [Ad Kd 4s]
MUG15 - Bets $10
SKANKBOY1 - Calls $10
TYLERLEWIS - Calls $10
*** TURN *** [Ad Kd 4s] [Jd]
MUG15 - Checks
SKANKBOY1 - Bets $10
TYLERLEWIS - All-In(Raise) $18 to $18
MUG15 - Folds
SKANKBOY1 - Calls $8
*** RIVER *** [Ad Kd 4s Jd] [Qd]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
SKANKBOY1 - Shows [9d 10d] (Royal flush)
TYLERLEWIS - Shows [5d 8d] (Flush, ace high)
SKANKBOY1 Collects $73 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($76) | Rake ($3)
Board [Ad Kd 4s Jd Qd]
Seat 1: SLOWNICKEL Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 2: SKANKBOY1 won Total ($73) HI:($73) with Royal flush [9d 10d - B:Ad,B:Kd,B:Qd,B:Jd,P:10d]
Seat 3: TYLERLEWIS HI:lost with Flush, ace high [5d 8d - B:Ad,B:Kd,B:Qd,B:Jd,P:8d]
Seat 4: JAX74 (dealer) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 5: MUG15 (small blind) Folded on the TURN
Seat 6: ROCK17 (big blind) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
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| | | 195 | xpdurmind
Sustainer
ID: 319471922
Mon, Jan 22, 2007, 22:24
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Nice hand RFS. Got to share Royals...Haven't seen many in my time.
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| | | 196 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 4110481415
Fri, Jan 26, 2007, 12:33
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Probably a good weekend to play the big guarantee tournaments...huge overlays last weekend...superbowl sunday will probably be even better...though they may lower the guarantees....
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| | | 198 | swami
ID: 75542011
Tue, Jan 30, 2007, 10:01
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BAM! Did you lure anyone in? What was the final pot?
I flopped one the other day with T9h in my hand on a 678h flop. I didn't stack anyone, but I made about $30 off one guy who held QQ with a heart. I'll have to see if I can find the hand somewhere.
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| | | 199 | R9
ID: 3511512123
Tue, Jan 30, 2007, 13:21
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My handgrabber wasn't working that day (Pacific made a change that rendered it useless for about two days) so I don't have the hand history.
But the guy leading out had 910os and I stacked him, though he was short. (~90$ I think.) MasaKasa probably had the Ac, as he came along for a bit too. I was slowplaying it, so he was able to fold on my big river bet. In hindsight I could have raised on the turn to get maximum value there, but I think any serious turn betting by me and he folds the Ac anyway. Too, if he has two pair/set I want to give him a chance to fill up.
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| | | 200 | swami
ID: 75542011
Tue, Jan 30, 2007, 16:11
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Slowplaying by calling or were they checking to you and you were just value betting?
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| | | 201 | R9
ID: 3511512123
Wed, Jan 31, 2007, 03:59
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Masakasa had raised that 6$ bet to ~20, and I just called. (So did the bettor.) On the turn (non-scary card) the bettor went all-in for slightly over the pot (~70$), and Masa called. I could've raised there, but I think he folds anything like Ac, set or two pair, and pays me off if any of those improve with the river. So I just called, and the river was no help to any drawing hand. He checked, I tried to make a big steal-looking bet but he wasn't that stupid. Meaningless anyway if all he had was A-high...
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| | | 202 | swami
ID: 75542011
Wed, Jan 31, 2007, 09:14
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Thoughts here. After his big re-raise I put him on KK or QQ. I planned to trap on the flop as he was OOP and would have to make a move at the pot on virtually any flop which would commit him. To me this was an obvious fold, but is there any way you stay in this pot here? I didn't have enough reads to think he was on AK or maybe TT.
PokerStars Game #8203678038: Hold'em No Limit
($0.50/$1.00) - 2007/01/30 - 21:36:07 (ET)
Table 'Thomsen II' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Oni5000 ($170.80 in chips)
Seat 2: DaSwam ($204.45 in chips)
Seat 3: Tim'sQTpie ($100.10 in chips)
Seat 4: triggs33 ($38.40 in chips)
Seat 5: lostboy123 ($191.40 in chips)
Seat 7: bataa3 ($144.15 in chips)
Seat 9: Evilrulz ($124.15 in chips)
triggs33: posts small blind $0.50
lostboy123: posts big blind $1
soleeeeil: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DaSwam [Ac As]
bataa3: raises $3 to $4
Evilrulz: folds
Oni5000: folds
DaSwam: raises $10 to $14
Tim'sQTpie: folds
triggs33: folds
lostboy123: folds
bataa3: raises $28 to $42
DaSwam: calls $28
*** FLOP *** [Kc Jd Qc]
bataa3: bets $50
DaSwam: folds
bataa3 collected $82.50 from pot
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| | | 203 | swami
ID: 75542011
Wed, Jan 31, 2007, 09:19
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201: I can't say I would have played it any differently. Perhaps a raise on the turn keeps him drawing to the A high flush. If he was willing to put $90 in, maybe the other $120 would follow on the turn.
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| | | 204 | R9
ID: 3511512123
Wed, Jan 31, 2007, 14:14
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#202, this is why I don't bother slowplaying preflop. If he's willing to re-raise to 42$ preflop, he's likely going to call a big re-raise. By just calling, you trap yourself into worrying about wether your hand is good or not. I three-bet preflop (probably all-in) to prevent being forced out on a tough-looking flop.
Do you fold to a big bet on a QhJh3h flop? It certainly is a tough situation, but it isn't vs. KdKs all-in preflop... Too, be slowplaying you give your opponent a chance to fold if the flop is unfavorable to him. (Say a K-high flop for QQ) And finally, I play against plenty of players who three-bet AKs preflop like that, especially with the stack sizes bigger then normal here.
However, as played, I think the fold was correct. Without a clear read you have to assume his range to be QQ-AA and AK, and maybe JJ. If your stacks were both normal size things might be different, but theres no sense getting stuck for 150 BB's with him holding a huge hand over 75% of his range.
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| | | 205 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 4110481415
Wed, Jan 31, 2007, 14:21
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I move in or at least reraise preflop...you might still lose with that ugly flop but I think after that type raise he would be willing to commit his last $100 preflop...
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| | | 206 | rockafellerskank
ID: 49136120
Sun, Feb 04, 2007, 13:00
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FTP is pushing MyWebATM.com Anyone check this out yet?
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| | | 207 | rockafellerskank
ID: 49136120
Sun, Feb 04, 2007, 16:34
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kinda funny story (not really)
Ever wash and old pair of jeans and find a $20? I had the virtual poker version of that today.
I have played on sooooo many poker sites over the last 3 years... so I started to check those sites' cashiers. I "found" $190 at Poker Stars, but couldn't w/d cause netteller gone. So, i started playing SnGs ($23 + $2) this morning and have won over +$400 today. Now... Now I'm gonna have to W/D cause I hate PS.
Anyone want to take a transfer on PS for $500+ and transfer me back cash on AP?
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| | | 208 | swami
ID: 430281319
Sun, Feb 04, 2007, 17:24
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Stars has a check withdrawal that I have done. I'm waiting on the check now. It isn't stuck there.
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| | | 209 | rockafellerskank
ID: 49136120
Sun, Feb 04, 2007, 17:41
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I might not leave PS. Two more wins including this last one:
SnG $23 + 2, winner gets $89+
PokerStars Game #8281790280: Tournament #42233642, $23+$2 Hold'em No
Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2007/02/04 - 17:36:23 (ET)
Table '42233642 1' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 4: skankboy (5920 in chips)
Seat 5: King_Don _21 (3080 in chips)
King_Don _21: posts small blind 100
skankboy: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to skankboy [5d 8d]
King_Don _21: raises 200 to 400
skankboy: calls 200
*** FLOP *** [7d Kh 9d]
skankboy: checks
King_Don _21: bets 600
skankboy: calls 600
*** TURN *** [7d Kh 9d] [6d]
skankboy: checks
King_Don _21: bets 800
skankboy: calls 800
*** RIVER *** [7d Kh 9d 6d] [8h]
skankboy: bets 1000
King_Don _21: raises 280 to 1280 and is all-in
skankboy: calls 280
*** SHOW DOWN ***
King_Don _21: shows [5c 9c] (a straight, Five to Nine)
skankboy: shows [5d 8d] (a straight flush, Five to Nine)
skankboy collected 6160 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 6160 | Rake 0
Board [7d Kh 9d 6d 8h]
Seat 4: skankboy (big blind) showed [5d 8d] and won (6160) with a
straight flush, Five to Nine
Seat 5: King_Don _21 (button) (small blind) showed [5c 9c] and lost
with a straight, Five to Nine
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| | | 210 | Dr. E
ID: 29161022
Sun, Feb 11, 2007, 22:56
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Man i lost 400 dollars to the same guy today playing... and they were both bad beats
i was playing omaha and both times on the turn
i put him all in...
The first time I had Nut flush and he J 3 2 pair.... ANd he called fro abotu 120 and hit a 3 on the river...
Same guy about an hour later. Has Q 7 2 pair.. I hit the nut again with a straight on the turn and put him all in and he called AGAIN..
and this time got another 7 for a full...
It was sick!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| | | 211 | R9
ID: 3511512123
Mon, Feb 12, 2007, 01:03
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How can Q72x make any kind of nut straight on the turn?
Just got back from 5 days in Vegas, I'll have a more detailed trip report tomorrow. Finished down about 200$, but I'm really happy with my game. Made some great reads that lead to some great folds, suffered 3 sick beats in big pots (two 4-outers and 1 2-outer) and had a blast.
Anyone here played at the Wynn? Great room, though I still stuck mostly to Bellagio's 2/5 and 5/10 tables.
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| | | 212 | KnicksFan
Sustainer
ID: 030815418
Mon, Feb 12, 2007, 01:50
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I think he means the guy had 3 pairs on the turn and rivered a full house.
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| | | 213 | Dr. E
ID: 520321717
Mon, Feb 12, 2007, 11:33
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He had J 3
The flop was like J 3 10
turn was probably like an 7.
I had 9 10...
I reraised him all in for 150 dolalrs
and he alled with 2 pair...
this happened about 30 minutes apart...
and he sucked out with a 3 on the river.. .
Exact same thing on the next card...
Oh ya then i lost 200 dollars to him again...
When the flop was:
3 10 A and i had 10, 10, K, J
He had A, 3, K, x
The turn was a K (rainbow so far)
I had been fully raising
RAISED AGAIN FULL AMOUNT ON THE TURN!!!
and he called proabbly another 80 dolalr bet
The river was another K.
I went all in and he caleld....
Busted another 200...
I knew he didn't have anythign great because he always reraised if he did...
SO 3 times in a row he sucked out on me and every time he said THANK YOU SIR!!!
like a jack azz.
lost 600 to this bozo... Ugh so mad... after being up about 600 from the day before...
THIs guy had 3 horrendous beats in my opinion. Is there any cahnge this coudl be rigged.
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| | | 214 | Weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Tue, Feb 13, 2007, 09:32
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Is there any cahnge this coudl be rigged.
You mean the part about you being up $600?
Could be.......
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| | | 215 | Dr. E
ID: 520321717
Tue, Feb 13, 2007, 10:57
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you have serious self esteem problems don't you weykool...
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| | | 216 | rockafellerskank
ID: 49136120
Tue, Feb 13, 2007, 11:48
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For the record, I do not belive online poker is rigged, but there's a decent blog/conversation about it here:
online poker rigged?
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| | | 217 | wiggs
ID: 60103021
Tue, Feb 13, 2007, 12:12
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He had J 3
The flop was like J 3 10
turn was probably like an 7.
I had 9 10...
I reraised him all in for 150 dolalrs
and he alled with 2 pair...
you were buried on this hand he had 2 pair you had open ended straight draw I would take the 2 pair any time. I dont know the exact odds, but i would says he was an 85 percent favcrite after the flop.
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| | | 218 | Dr. E
ID: 520321717
Tue, Feb 13, 2007, 12:27
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wiggs i went all in on the turn card... after i made my straight...
in omaha it's pot limit so you can't just go all in rigth away.
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| | | 219 | R9
ID: 3511512123
Tue, Feb 13, 2007, 14:19
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Dr. E, your problem is still that you get way too emotional when things don't go your way. Three sick beats sucks. But it happens all the time, and if you don't let it go it will just affect your future hands for as long as its still in your head. The pot was never yours. You just had a far greater chance of taking it. Unfortunately the smaller % chance won out.
This is the single greatest flaw that I see in otherwise good players. Two of my friends will never be winning poker players, despite loads of skill and reading ability, because they just can't control their emotions when things go bad. Poker is quite often a brutal, unfair game. If you focus on how that hurts you instead of how it helps you, how do you expect to win?
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| | | 220 | Dr. E
ID: 520321717
Tue, Feb 13, 2007, 15:52
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R9 what do they do when things go bad?
I mean how do they act?
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| | | 221 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 249542719
Wed, Feb 14, 2007, 00:09
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Here is an exciting little hand considering the opponent:
Full Tilt Poker Game #1792571752: Table Calanda (6 max) - $5/$10 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:28:21 ET - 2007/02/13
Seat 1: MactanTRS ($980)
Seat 2: Antivirus ($1,860)
Seat 3: good2cu ($1,049)
Seat 4: AllenCunningham ($1,932.25)
Seat 5: love gut-shots ($651)
Seat 6: Mizzles ($1,482.75)
good2cu posts the small blind of $5
AllenCunningham posts the big blind of $10
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to MactanTRS [3d 4d]
love gut-shots folds
Mizzles folds
MactanTRS raises to $35
Antivirus folds
good2cu folds
AllenCunningham calls $25
*** FLOP *** [Kc 2s 6c]
AllenCunningham checks
MactanTRS bets $60
AllenCunningham calls $60
*** TURN *** [Kc 2s 6c] [5s]
AllenCunningham checks
MactanTRS bets $200
AllenCunningham calls $200
*** RIVER *** [Kc 2s 6c 5s] [5c]
AllenCunningham checks
MactanTRS bets $300
AllenCunningham calls $300
*** SHOW DOWN ***
MactanTRS shows [3d 4d] (a straight, Six high)
AllenCunningham mucks
MactanTRS wins the pot ($1,192) with a straight, Six high
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $1,195 | Rake $3
Board: [Kc 2s 6c 5s 5c]
Seat 1: MactanTRS showed [3d 4d] and won ($1,192) with a straight, Six high
Seat 2: Antivirus (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: good2cu (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 4: AllenCunningham (big blind) mucked [Jh Kd] - two pair, Kings and Fives
Seat 5: love gut-shots didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: Mizzles didn't bet (folded)
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| | | 222 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 249542719
Wed, Feb 14, 2007, 00:13
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I definitely got lucky...nice when a continuation/semi bluff bet pays off...I do not think he would have called much more on the river...
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| | | 223 | wiggs@work
ID: 5910511410
Wed, Feb 14, 2007, 10:16
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dr e.
I still dont see the straight
9 10
flop j 10 3
turn 7
there is no 8, unless i am missing something.
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| | | 224 | wiggs@work
ID: 5910511410
Wed, Feb 14, 2007, 10:24
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I played a tourney last night at the turning stone casino and had a sick beat.
blinds 500 1000 200 ante
Preflop raise to 3500 1 caller
I get AK diamonds, flop comes out 236 diamonds.
I check, other guy raises to 8000 I go all in for about 15000 more and he beats me to the pot. turns over pocket 4s, 1 is a diamond, turn was a blank, river was the 5 of diamonds, a high flush loses to straight flush finished 10, 1 off the final table.
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| | | 225 | swami
ID: 75542011
Thu, Feb 15, 2007, 08:15
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Thoughts here? This was the first time I had tangled with this guy, and he seemed to play solid poker. I surfed the hand history for the 40+ seconds I had to make my decision before I finally folded. He hadn't made this move prior and even showed one solid value bet from OOP with a rivered hand. This was an insta-shove, not though from him at all once the 2d hit.
I put him on a weaker Queen or a draw when he called the flop. The T was not a good card for me as QT could have been in the mix. When he called the turn bet I started to dismiss the draw as I wasn't giving him good odds to chase one draw (unless he was open ended on a straight draw with the flush in play as well). I had made a bad (really bad) call about 15 minutes prior, so I think that may have influenced his play to not value bet but shove. I didn't call a shove earlier, but I didn't lay down top pair when it was obvious I was beat. Anyone make this call? Should I have checked behind on the turn to control the pot size, or bet more to get a better read?
PokerStars Game #8448952515: Hold'em No Limit
($0.50/$1.00) - 2007/02/15 - 01:58:01 (ET)
Table 'Zelia IV' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: WCGplayer ($119.45 in chips)
Seat 2: frosty74 ($31.25 in chips)
Seat 3: DaSwam ($110.05 in chips)
Seat 4: NYY ATG ($228.80 in chips)
Seat 5: A1141 ($135.50 in chips)
Seat 6: nyoken ($108.45 in chips)
Seat 7: KeithNov ($41.15 in chips)
Seat 8: Bonkaloo ($120.70 in chips)
Seat 9: benjaminpel ($156.85 in chips)
benjaminpel: posts small blind $0.50
WCGplayer: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DaSwam [Ad Qc]
DaSwam: raises $2 to $3
Bonkaloo: calls $3
benjaminpel: calls $2.50
WCGplayer: calls $2
*** FLOP *** [3d Qd 4s]
benjaminpel: checks
WCGplayer: checks
DaSwam: bets $6
Bonkaloo: folds
benjaminpel: folds
WCGplayer: calls $6
*** TURN *** [3d Qd 4s] [Th]
WCGplayer: checks
DaSwam: bets $14
WCGplayer: calls $14
*** RIVER *** [3d Qd 4s Th] [2d]
WCGplayer: bets $96.45 and is all-in
DaSwam: folds
WCGplayer collected $49.50 from pot
WCGplayer: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $52 | Rake $2.50
Board [3d Qd 4s Th 2d]
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| | | 226 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 4110481415
Thu, Feb 15, 2007, 09:42
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too big an overbet on the river..I do not think you can call with less than a flush...
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| | | 227 | Dr. E
ID: 520321717
Thu, Feb 15, 2007, 09:45
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sorry wiggs. I had 8 9 ....
I'll have to copy the beats from now on!
yesterday playing omaha i lost 2 big hands:
one hand i had flush/open ended straigth draw...
SOmeone had trips and the other guy had a gut shot nuts draw with AAJ4 i had QJ suited KQJ10
The flop was somethign like K 10 8
one guy had 888... and he raised heavily and the toher guy called. I tried to bet him out by reraising 50 dollars but he caleld then i went all in for another 100 to get him out of the pot but he called and we both hit our flushes.. and he won about 250 on the pot.
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| | | 228 | Rob J
ID: 570581013
Thu, Feb 15, 2007, 15:28
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AA story (w/ happy ending) The game is 2-5 NL
UTG with the AsAc I make it 35 to go (3 loose aggressive players
behind me with huge stacks call and another guy calls)
The flop comes off 347 (two hearts)
I make it 75. The three big stacks fold and the last guy calls.
The turn 9d.
I go all in for 300+ (he only had like 160). He thought about it
for a loooooong time finally flipping over A9h and said should I
call. I actually thought he did in fact call almost
flipping over my hand! He finally folded and I took down a
decent pot. Could I have bet less preflop to kind of try to
narrow the field to headsup, or was 35 a good bet?
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| | | 229 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 4110481415
Thu, Feb 15, 2007, 17:17
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Rob J...bet less to narrow the field? Not sure I understand that...usually you bet more to narrow the field...35 already seems like a big overbet UTG in 2-5NL...that table must have been playing very loose to get 4 callers to that type preflop bet...likely you are giving away the strength of your hand preflop...they are putting you on AA or KK and calling hoping to catch a lucky flop knowing they will get your stack if they catch. or...maybe they are just that loose and are going to call almost any bet preflop. I might even bet more if I know I will get a caller or two.
It just kind of sucks playing AA UTG...you can limp and hope for a raise behind you...and then reraise big trying to isolate...but this also gives away your strength...generally you do not want to face 4 callers when you have AA...makes your hand much weaker...you are probably less than 50% preflop facing that many opponents and generally with AA you are going to have a hard time folding whatever flops...just depends on the table...if they are calling 35 I might raise 60 next time...or limp and reraise big.
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| | | 230 | Rob J
ID: 570581013
Thu, Feb 15, 2007, 18:15
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<<-- Meant to say BET MORE preflop (duh).. but thanks for your
help Tony. I think these guys were calling most hands preflop (very
loose). You are right I should have bet like 60... five handed I don't
think I could risk a limp raise play here. If there were more players
it would be a decent play.
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| | | 231 | Rob J
ID: 570581013
Sat, Feb 17, 2007, 17:48
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http://forums.cardplayer.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=45192
funny post (post 8 I think it is), kind of in similar vein as the "85
million thread"
Check it out :)
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| | | 232 | R9
ID: 3511512123
Sun, Feb 18, 2007, 04:16
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This is why I play. ;)
***** Pacific Hand History for Game 2060595314 *****
$3/$6 Blinds No Limit Hold'em - *** 02 17 20:15:05 2007
Table Mikes Hard (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 10: jacky17 ( $447.25 )
Seat 4: StarofUK ( $2465.09 )
Seat 5: RNiner ( $837.55 )
Seat 6: madfish3 ( $563.43 )
Seat 8: zyxz ( $668.85 )
StarofUK posts small blind [$3].
RNiner posts big blind [$6].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RNiner [ 7h 7s ]
madfish3 calls [$6].
zyxz raises [$24].
jacky17 folds.
StarofUK folds.
RNiner calls [$18].
madfish3 calls [$18].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 7c, 9h, 7d ]
RNiner checks.
madfish3 checks.
zyxz bets [$57].
RNiner calls [$57].
madfish3 folds.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 5c ]
RNiner checks.
zyxz bets [$121].
RNiner calls [$121].
** Dealing River ** [ 3h ]
RNiner bets [$635.55].
zyxz calls [$466.85].
** Summary **
RNiner shows [ 7h 7s ].
zyxz shows [ 6d 6c ].
RNiner shows [ 7h 7s ].
RNiner collected [$1360.7].
RNiner collected [$168.7].
An otherwise solid player on tilt. I'm still in disbelief of the river call though. He called instantly, almost as though HE had the quads...
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| | | 233 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 249542719
Sun, Feb 18, 2007, 17:49
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playing in FTOPS Main Event on FT...@6pm eastern...anyone else playing? 1.5M prize pool...
rail me...mactantrs...
been rolling in the cash games the past 1.5 months...
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| | | 234 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 249542719
Sun, Feb 18, 2007, 20:22
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knocked out pretty quick...unlucky once...got me shortstacked...could not recover...
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| | | 235 | R9
ID: 371561823
Mon, Feb 19, 2007, 00:58
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Thought about playing, but the guys wanted to have a poker night instead. Tournies aren't my better play anyway, but that prize pool looked juicy... Are you playing regular tournies TRS? Like 2 or 3 a week? Or just the occasional big one like this.
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| | | 236 | beastiemiked
ID: 3101646
Mon, Feb 19, 2007, 02:35
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I refuse to play on FTP until they give Americans a viable cash out option.
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| | | 237 | R9
ID: 371561823
Mon, Feb 19, 2007, 04:15
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Question on that; is Neteller still processing transfers to poker sites for non US players?
Is none of the new options at FT viable bmd? I heard they had two new cashier options, just don't remember the names.
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| | | 238 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 4110481415
Mon, Feb 19, 2007, 10:20
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I do not play many tournaments...I am a cash game player. Once in awhile I will play the bigger tournaments.
Yes withdrawals are a mess right now...I hope they figure out something soon...my bankroll has swelled to about triple where I normally keep it...not complaining as I have been winning and winning but sucks I can't touch any of the money. Not sure of the status of Neteller except they have a lot of peoples money locked up...none of mine.
I was hoping FT would figure out their check problems and give us a check withdrawal option. I do not really trust the third party processors at this point but may need to explore that route. The problem with them is you are limited to xxx dollars per day and I need to withdraw xxxxx dollars...hate doing a month or two of daily transfers.
So for now I just keep building the $ on FT and hope eventually I will be able to get it out. All won money anyway...
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| | | 239 | beastiemiked
ID: 3101646
Mon, Feb 19, 2007, 12:10
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The only option that semi works is Epassporte and you can only withdraw at most $600 a day plus there's a $2 fee each withdrawal.
TRS, how do you file your taxes? As a professional? All the tax information that I've been reading is so undefined about online poker. So frustrating.
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| | | 240 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 4110481415
Mon, Feb 19, 2007, 12:30
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I do not file as a pro...it seems the real benefit of filing as a pro is it allows you to deduct various expenses...not many expenses while playing online...and I think playing as a pro opens you up to a fight with the IRS...they do not really like to acknowledge gambling as a profession. If you are strictly a B&M player then it makes sense to file as a pro because you can deduct meals...travel...etc...
The long and short of filing is minimally you should log all of your sessions daily...add up all your winning sessions and enter it as gambling winnings/income...and then add up all of your losing sessions and take them as a gambling loss. The important thing is to file your wins/losses seperately and not just the net of the two.
Google Russ Fox...he has a lot of articles on gambling and income tax.
good article...
As for Epassporte I have heard you can also do wire transfers with them for larger amounts but it is kind of a manual process and they charge $50. The $600 a day EFT transfer is ok...the $2 fee is fair...the thing I hate is the thought of doing it every day all year...pain in the ass...and I do not want that many transactions. Not really complaining...it is a good problem to have I guess. I think eventually FT will figure something out...PokerStars is still sending checks so if they can you would think FT would figure something out. I am just going to wait for now.
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| | | 242 | Dr. E
ID: 29161022
Mon, Feb 19, 2007, 22:54
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This is just my luck...
Some effing moron calling me with crap and getting lucky on the river...
Stage #575999942: Omaha Pot Limit $2 - 2007-02-15 15:16:54 (ET)
Table: CALDERON RD. (Real Money) Seat #6 is the dealer
Seat 6 - DAVEDABURNER ($247.10 in chips)
Seat 1 - 99MAVERIK99 ($162.41 in chips)
Seat 3 - JONSONNE ($398 in chips)
Seat 4 - MRSPUD ($239.51 in chips)
Seat 5 - AAMIKEYAA ($176.50 in chips)
99MAVERIK99 - Posts small blind $1
JONSONNE - Posts big blind $2
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to 99MAVERIK99 [8c Js 7h 10h]
MRSPUD - Calls $2
AAMIKEYAA - Raises $4 to $4
DAVEDABURNER - Folds
99MAVERIK99 - Raises $15 to $16
JONSONNE - Folds
MRSPUD - Calls $14
AAMIKEYAA - Calls $12
*** FLOP *** [Ks 9c Qd]
99MAVERIK99 - Bets $50
MRSPUD - Folds
AAMIKEYAA - Calls $50
*** TURN *** [Ks 9c Qd] [6c]
99MAVERIK99 - All-In $96.41
AAMIKEYAA - Calls $96.41
*** RIVER *** [Ks 9c Qd 6c] [2c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
99MAVERIK99 - Shows [8c Js 7h 10h] (Straight, nine to king)
AAMIKEYAA - Shows [Jh Ac Qh Jc] (Flush, ace high)
AAMIKEYAA Collects $339.82 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($342.82) | Rake ($3)
Board [Ks 9c Qd 6c 2c]
Seat 1: 99MAVERIK99 (small blind) HI:lost with Straight, nine to king [8c Js 7h 10h - B:Ks,B:Qd,P:Js,P:10h,B:9c]
Seat 3: JONSONNE (big blind) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 4: MRSPUD Folded on the FLOP
Seat 5: AAMIKEYAA won Total ($339.82) HI:($339.82) with Flush, ace high [Jh Ac Qh Jc - P:Ac,P:Jc,B:9c,B:6c,B:2c]
Seat 6: DAVEDABURNER (dealer) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
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| | | 243 | rfs
ID: 450122417
Mon, Feb 19, 2007, 23:14
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Dude, Dr E is 99maverick99 AKA Deadeye. No wonder. You have posted so much about your (alleged) bad beats over the past year. I'd suggest you have holes in your game. Please come back to AP and play at my tables. It's guys like you (in denial) that fund the poker world. Way to go, Lil Johnny.
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| | | 244 | Dr. E
ID: 29161022
Mon, Feb 19, 2007, 23:49
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???
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| | | 245 | Dr. E
ID: 29161022
Mon, Feb 19, 2007, 23:50
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I am about even... I win a ton playing heads up
and seem to lose when i play with more than 4 people...
Thank goodness for heads up...
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| | | 246 | R9
ID: 361421923
Tue, Feb 20, 2007, 00:45
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You been keeping track of wins/losses with a spreadsheet?
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| | | 247 | rfs
ID: 450122417
Tue, Feb 20, 2007, 07:56
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RE: 244
??? - are you denying you are are Deadeye (DE)?
He plays withthe same screen name "99maveriik9" and has the same posting style (using .... through his posts).And, talks about his HU sucessess and tis mythical ton of cash he wins.
Nice, john Howe. Don't make me post your picture in that goofy baseball uniform. GL at the table and please come back to my AP games. Please!
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| | | 248 | Dr. E
ID: 520321717
Tue, Feb 20, 2007, 09:31
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No i have not kept track!
I don't win anything playing poker... Always ahead then always back to even... Heads up i can win most of the time but since cdpoker went down i can't find a good heads up only site that does cash games only.. I have to play for 1 minute against someone with a short stack then i have to move tables as soon as someone else shows up.. it's annoying... omaha i can do well on it but i get some bad beats once in awhile.
I wish i knew how your spreadsheet worked? I am thinking of playing short stacked on the higher limit tables that way i don't have to worry about these guys who just sit there and trap all the time.
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| | | 249 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 249542719
Tue, Feb 20, 2007, 21:25
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Started a new thread...
link
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